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Ep. 58: The Seizure-Inducing Delivery Sensor
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In this episode of The Loan Machinist, Jamie and Curt dive into the chaotic reality of running a machine shop while battling the elements and outdated technology. Jamie recounts a rough Monday in South Africa where 30mm of rain and a lightning strike claimed a workshop monitor, while his wife "swore at him" over comments regarding his machine's nicknames. Meanwhile, Curt reveals his seizure-inducing Home Assistant automation that flashes every light in the workshop the moment a delivery driver touches his walkway.
The duo discusses the "magic" of VS Code and the necessity of adding dates to post-processors to stop the confusion of "reposting the same program". They also explore the merits of Grip CNC for spindle grippers, which Jamie claims can turn a two-day programming nightmare into a ten-minute breeze.
Finally, Jamie explains why he pays a bean counter to handle his financials: "If I do it, I'm going to jail". Whether you are here for the Pi 5 case talk or the Bridgerton rage-bait, this episode is packed with shop talk and shenanigans
Links Discussed:
- Smart lathe response to Caleeys cans: https://youtu.be/xt2YxyMm-9o?si=y9kEQaJ4TSfzd4pC
- Maritool adjustable runout hydraulic sleeves: https://www.maritool.com/Collets-And-Sleeves-Hydraulic-and-Milling-Chuck-Sleeves-Adjustable-Runout-Hydraulic-Sleeves/c21_913_1888/index.html
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Transcript
Introduction & Preview
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to The Loan Machinist, it's just you, the work, and the machines. What have you got going on today, Kurt?
00:00:07
Curt
Ah, this week going to talk a little bit about home assistant automations, which are amazing. um And on that note, Raspberry Pi cases, they look crazy nowadays and machining some thin bronze pieces bronze pieces and how to hold them.
00:00:20
Curt
So how about you? What do you got to chat about?
00:00:21
jamie peacock
Okay. We're we're going to talk about modifying post-processes. We're going to talk about... Bertha running production, and it runs a lot faster than when I ran it. And ah that smart lathe seems to be a somewhat legit company.
00:00:39
Curt
Yes, yeah, that I like that one.
00:00:40
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:00:41
Curt
That was...
00:00:41
jamie peacock
Yeah. So, what... How are you this fine day? Words are hard.
00:00:49
Curt
I'm doing fantastic. I'm doing fast-tastic. How
Weather & Workshop Incident
00:00:51
Curt
about you? How about you? How's a sunny South Africa on this fine evening?
00:00:53
jamie peacock
Yeah. Hot as balls.
00:00:57
Curt
Oh, really?
00:00:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, know, dude. It's been like 30-something degrees here every day.
00:01:01
Curt
oh. war
00:01:03
jamie peacock
Last night, sorry, last night we got 30 millimeters of rain in the middle of the bloody night, so I didn't sleep. um Because it was storming, we had a lightning strike. i lost one of my monitors in the workshop. So, yeah, a little annoying, but yeah,
00:01:14
Curt
Okay.
Network Issues & Machine Cleanup
00:01:15
jamie peacock
one of one of those Mondays.
00:01:15
Curt
oh
00:01:16
jamie peacock
And then mom whole network was being... special, like it likes trains this morning. So I spent like half an hour trying to reconfigure some of the routers, because there are many, to get it all working properly again.
00:01:24
Curt
yeah
00:01:31
jamie peacock
But yeah, it was one of those days. But I cleaned out Monica.
00:01:34
Curt
Nice.
00:01:36
jamie peacock
No, not Monica. I cleaned out the LK of Monica slash Trump this afternoon, and hence the Datron shirt, because my wife's busy swearing at me for that comment.
00:01:36
Curt
Mm.
00:01:47
jamie peacock
um
00:01:48
Curt
Oh.
00:01:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, so yeah god it's been overdue for a while.
Machine Maintenance & Innovations
00:01:52
jamie peacock
Like I've got a, I think it's a two foot long sock filter that I filled up twice with shavings that had got past the main shaving trays.
00:02:02
Curt
Oh.
00:02:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, I dont think the last time I did it was in December. So not that long, but it needs to be done a bit more regularly.
00:02:11
Curt
Yeah, fair. i'd i
00:02:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:13
Curt
I should clean mine, but I mean, i make so few chips that I clean my filter so frequently, I bet you there's very little in there. i don't know, i should drain it and see.
00:02:19
jamie peacock
I was thinking about that today and I'm like, I bet there's a whole pile got past your filters.
00:02:25
Curt
There probably is. they're And it's probably the fine, like horrible, like almost like so just silty mud kind of worst ones.
00:02:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:29
jamie peacock
Yeah. All the fun stuff, yes.
00:02:31
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:02:33
jamie peacock
At least your machine's not too big of a tank, so it's not horrible to pump out.
00:02:37
Curt
No, like even even if I had to just pump it all out and just like, yeah, completely change it.
00:02:38
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:42
Curt
It's not expensive to fill and it's not, ah you know, you can do it in pails essentially.
00:02:44
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, I mean, what you said was 80 liters or 60 liters.
00:02:47
Curt
So I think it's eight.
00:02:50
jamie peacock
80.
00:02:50
Curt
Yeah. 80 liters.
00:02:51
jamie peacock
Okay, it's still an amount of coolant, but not a huge amount.
00:02:51
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:02:55
Curt
Yeah, totally.
00:02:56
jamie peacock
I mean, I think I'm at like 100 and something liters.
00:02:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:02:59
Curt
Yeah. That's starting to get there. And then there's, yeah.
00:03:00
jamie peacock
It starts to...
00:03:01
Curt
And there's big people with like thousand liter tanks and crazy ones.
00:03:05
jamie peacock
Well, yeah, my coolant guys will literally deliver an IPC tote of coolant concentrate to some of their customers every month. Yeah, it's insane.
00:03:14
Curt
oh I mean, if you a got a lot of machines, it makes sense. Yeah, just scale.
00:03:18
jamie peacock
No, definitely.
00:03:18
Curt
so
00:03:19
jamie peacock
Like, I've been to a factory where they've got conveyors under the floor.
00:03:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:03:24
jamie peacock
So, all the chip conveyors feed literally through them ah a mesh floor into a central conveyor that runs out the side of the building back to the smelting plant, making aluminum rims.
00:03:34
Curt
That's crazy.
00:03:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, it's it's nuts.
00:03:36
Curt
That's crazy.
00:03:37
jamie peacock
And that's a local company as well.
00:03:40
Curt
I think it was Was it Saunders that was...
00:03:40
jamie peacock
know, like, some of the...
00:03:42
Curt
i say it was a saunders I was talking about like that shop that had like the like ah like a river of coolant behind all the machines. like it was like Everything was just like central, and they had like a huge coolant thing, and the machines would all just like dump into this, yeah, like this creak of coolant, and it would just pump through.
00:03:53
jamie peacock
Oh, that's cool.
00:03:57
Curt
out Maybe that was a fever dream.
00:03:58
jamie peacock
That's quite cool.
00:03:59
Curt
Yeah, i don't know.
00:04:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, could be because I don't recall that one, but cool idea. Like, yeah, know, that's a really interesting one.
00:04:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:04:07
jamie peacock
So, um,
00:04:09
Curt
So...
00:04:09
jamie peacock
I'm going to start first because I want to cover the first topic on my list.
Podcast Schedule Update
00:04:13
jamie peacock
The release date of the podcast as of next episode will be moving to Wednesdays from Tuesday.
00:04:13
Curt
Yes.
00:04:19
jamie peacock
um That's because the lovely producer has started earning her keep and working for a living. So it just gives her a little bit of extra time to process the podcast the evening after we record.
00:04:31
Curt
Nice.
00:04:32
jamie peacock
Yes, because she now wakes up stupid early to get 50 kilometers away in peak traffic. It's great.
00:04:39
Curt
Ugh.
00:04:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, she went in.
00:04:40
Curt
That sounds ragged.
00:04:40
jamie peacock
The for first day was today she went in. Had like a half day and then she's back on Monday um to start actually teaching the things she teaches.
00:04:50
jamie peacock
yeah that's going to be interesting, adapting to not having someone always at home.
00:04:50
Curt
Oh, that's awesome.
00:04:51
Curt
look Good for her. That's awesome.
00:04:57
Curt
Yeah, yeah you'd be like a puppy that has like separation anxiety.
00:04:58
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:05:02
jamie peacock
Well, no, now the issue is I need to schedule my delivery.
00:05:03
Curt
We'll have to get you.
00:05:05
jamie peacock
So if I have to go to site, I know what's coming and I can make sure I'm here or someone's here to receive things.
00:05:11
Curt
fair. Yeah, that's a nice thing to have.
00:05:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, because it's always just, there's always been someone here.
00:05:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:14
jamie peacock
like But yeah, so I'm going to be fighting with few my suppliers to try and get more consistent lead times and deliveries.
00:05:22
Curt
Fair enough. Actually, that is a perfect segue into my home assistant automations topic,
Home Automation with Home Assistant
00:05:28
Curt
which I will jump on is the same thing.
00:05:28
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:05:31
Curt
Like I'm here and but I'm in the garage and it's noisy and then all my deliveries come to my front door. And if i if it's something like really important, I'll usually put like a little sign on my just on my walkway to be like, hey, just pound on the garage door.
00:05:41
jamie peacock
yeah
00:05:42
Curt
I'm here, especially if I have to sign for it. ah Then I decided, I'm like, why don't I get smart? Because I have frigate running on home assistant that's watching my front door. So I have it now that soon as somebody's foot like comes on my walkway.
00:05:50
jamie peacock
yeah yeah oh nice seizure inducing yeah
00:05:54
Curt
So like, like, so it's not catching passerbys, but it catches someone walking up to my door. It takes all my workshop lights and flashes my workshop lights. Um, yeah, that way I'm like, oh, so and even if seizures, yeah, the seizure inducer.
00:06:06
Curt
And then that way I know I'm like, if no matter where I am, all the lights flash. So no matter where I'm looking, I'll see it and I don't have to hear it. And I'm like, oh, then it gives me enough time to like stop what I'm doing and walk to the front door. Then I can receive something if I have to sign for it or whatnot, or see if someone creepies at my front door.
00:06:20
Curt
So yeah. Or just check the camera and see what's up.
00:06:22
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:23
Curt
But yeah, it's, I don't know why it took me like forever to do that, but yeah, I finally set it up and it's lovely.
00:06:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, last week I put a camera in the workshop, just a ah dome camera on Home Assistant, and it's lovely.
00:06:34
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:35
jamie peacock
I can come sit inside and I can watch TV and just check on the camera every now and again to see the states, or like i was running the Emco. I can just make sure that it's still running and hasn't got a red light.
00:06:46
jamie peacock
So we'll see now with some of the shenanigans I have planned. I think that's going to become even more useful.
00:06:53
Curt
Yeah, like I didn't really like delve into the like full automations on Home Assistant very much, but like you can get and you can just code it.
00:06:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:00
Curt
Like you don't have to go through their UI.
00:07:00
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:01
Curt
You can just write straight code. So I have it so it's like it'll flash.
00:07:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, agent rights. Yeah.
00:07:05
Curt
Yeah, like the lights will flash unless it's outside of my hours I'm in here. And unless if the lights are off, they won't flash. And then like if if it's flashed, it won't flash again for the next five minutes. So I'm not just like getting blazed if someone's sitting on my porch and like just it's so cool.
00:07:14
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, and that's just the YAML files.
00:07:19
Curt
Yep.
00:07:20
jamie peacock
And it's not complicated. like I managed to brute force my way through it pretty quickly when I added the LART controller to the workshop.
00:07:27
Curt
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:07:28
jamie peacock
So yeah, that's 100%.
00:07:29
Curt
Well, I cheat.
00:07:30
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:07:31
Curt
I just threw it into chat, and i was like hey, can you do this?
00:07:32
jamie peacock
hundred cent
00:07:33
Curt
And it's like yeah, no sweat, and it just punched all the code out. I was like, oh, yeah, and it worked, like, perfectly. I had to tweak a couple things, and yeah, it was done.
00:07:38
jamie peacock
yep No, but that's the point of AI is leverage it for the stupid shit you don't want to do. It doesn't need to do everything every day, but when it's stupid shit it's good at, let it do it.
00:07:44
Curt
Absolutely.
00:07:50
Curt
Yeah, yeah, exactly, so, yeah.
00:07:50
jamie peacock
No, that's the whole thing. That's why I have Toolpath. Let it do the stupid shit I want to do. ah use it to program my parts on Saturday evening because I literally just, it was like five selections that i would have had to have made.
00:07:57
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:08:03
jamie peacock
And right now, fuck it. Send it Toolpath. Get it back and tweak it.
00:08:07
Curt
that's no
00:08:08
jamie peacock
Oh, cool.
00:08:08
Curt
That's what it's for. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, take that.
00:08:11
jamie peacock
Now I've gotten extremely lazy because of that.
Efficiency Tips for Post-Processing
00:08:15
Curt
No, that's sort of that's what I wanted to do.
00:08:15
jamie peacock
So speaking of code, um everyone needs to take five minutes and just add dates and time to their post processor.
00:08:16
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:08:25
jamie peacock
It's literally two lines of code.
00:08:28
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:08:29
jamie peacock
I've been putting it off, putting it off. I did it today. I did all my posts in like literally five minutes.
00:08:36
Curt
It's probably a good idea.
00:08:37
jamie peacock
You copy two lines, you paste it in and one of the sections. that I Googled it and it came up with instructions. And now my posts all post out with the dates and time. The one for Siemens looks a bit better than the Linux ones, but it outputs the dates and then the time just as a string of texts, no, like forward slashes and things.
00:08:56
jamie peacock
So it's a bit dumb, but whatever. The one for Siemens posts it out properly.
00:09:02
Curt
Okay.
00:09:02
jamie peacock
Which is convenient because are often repost the same program with minor changes and I'm never quite sure which version I have.
00:09:02
Curt
Okay.
00:09:10
jamie peacock
So now I can look, oh, this one was posted two seconds ago. The previous one was posted nine minutes ago. Now i at least know what's happening.
00:09:20
jamie peacock
So.
00:09:20
Curt
I should do that because I'm always looking at like the date created numbers and I was like, why don't I?
00:09:24
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:09:26
Curt
Yeah, I should just have same thing.
00:09:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, dude.
00:09:27
Curt
It's like I did this two minutes ago and I did this one four minutes ago. Which one is it?
00:09:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:32
jamie peacock
No, 100%.
00:09:32
jamie peacock
It literally takes five minutes. It's not complicated.
00:09:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:35
Curt
I'm going to do that.
00:09:36
jamie peacock
you've got it The most complicated thing is pressing Control-H to find the line of code you need to find. Like it goes into one of the sections there, and you literally paste the two lines of code that come out of Google, and you're done.
00:09:49
jamie peacock
And I assume you have the post editor plugin for VS Code.
00:09:49
Curt
Okay.
00:09:53
Curt
Oh, of course. Yeah, of course.
00:09:55
jamie peacock
Dude, that's so great.
00:09:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, I was playing with it today.
00:09:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:59
jamie peacock
Because, yeah and then you can see it's doing the right thing.
00:09:59
Curt
I have all the plugins. i have the I have the purple plugin.
00:10:02
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, VS Code is magic.
00:10:04
Curt
So all my all my VS code is all purple. I forgot what it's called. No, super purple or something. And then I have all the like Python and Arduino and posts.
00:10:09
jamie peacock
I actually...
00:10:12
Curt
and Yeah, it's fantastic.
00:10:14
jamie peacock
think I have VS Code on here. um Yeah, so I reinstalled Windows for the first time since 2017 on this computer.
System Maintenance & Upgrades
00:10:23
Curt
and Welcome to the frustration.
00:10:24
jamie peacock
So, like, when i was saying earlier, there was a lot of bloat and shit on it. Not kidding. Like, I think I had Logme and Omachi still running. I used it to play a game when I still lived in my flat.
00:10:36
Curt
Cool.
00:10:36
jamie peacock
So, if we could play a LAN game over the internet with my mates, like...
00:10:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:40
jamie peacock
ah There was a lot of random crap on this computer, so it got cleaned. Luckily, all my Steam libraries are on different drives, so I just installed Steam again and then linked the external library files.
00:10:53
jamie peacock
So that yeah that was yesterday afternoon's endeavor, is getting this PC back up and somewhat fresh.
00:11:00
Curt
Everyone should do that. Like, I slag on Windows, but everyone should do that. and Windows nowadays to reinstall is is a cakewalk. Like, it's it's not difficult.
00:11:06
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah, it's like an hour.
00:11:08
Curt
And if you haven't done it in the last two years, do it. You're like, your PC will be so much faster.
00:11:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:12
Curt
All
00:11:12
jamie peacock
The biggest thing I forgot, well, I forgot two things. So I backed up my entire desktop because I tend to dump shit on the desktop. And then I reinstalled Windows and forgot that I had a custom static IP and I couldn't remember what it was and what its um DNS, the default gateway was.
00:11:20
Curt
right.
00:11:28
Curt
Oh, oh, oh.
00:11:32
jamie peacock
That took me a while. So I had to unplug my router, plug the Ethernet cable directly into the PC, set it to auto DHCP, install Chrome, log into my Chrome, because then it remembers the password for my router, because I know what that is.
00:11:47
Curt
Hmm.
00:11:47
jamie peacock
um Then once that was done, plug back into the router, ping into the router and try and figure that shit out. But yeah, eventually eventually got that all working um and fixed a few other issues across the whole network this morning.
00:11:54
Curt
ah second
00:11:59
jamie peacock
But yeah, like there was that. And then i was like, shit, I didn't back up my printer profiles on PrusaSlicer.
00:12:06
Curt
Ah, yep. Yep. Oh, nice.
00:12:07
jamie peacock
But I did make a backup a while ago. It was on the desktop. I made a config bundle because I do that every now and again just to make sure.
00:12:11
Curt
ah nice
00:12:15
jamie peacock
Like if I add a new filament to the mix, I'll do a config bundle again just so that I have a backup of everything.
00:12:20
Curt
Right.
00:12:21
jamie peacock
And yeah, pull that in. I'm back back up and running. Okay.
00:12:26
Curt
Nice.
00:12:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, worth doing. We'll see, Danica, we'll see how much she swears with the podcast she edits, whether it'll actually download. It took her, she was up at like one o'clock in the morning on Friday night chatting to Descripts, customer service, because obviously they're in the US, to try and get a file.
00:12:42
Curt
Right, right, right.
00:12:42
jamie peacock
It kept throwing her a random error. Like the error would change every time. The guy's like, no, he just downloaded it. So he downloaded it before, put it on a Google Drive so that she could download the file. But that took her two days.
00:12:52
Curt
Hmm.
00:12:53
jamie peacock
Like it was insane.
00:12:55
Curt
Yikes. Well, thanks for her. Thanks for her efforts behind the scenes.
00:12:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, no. But yeah, anyway, that will hopefully be resolved now. I can't put Windows 11 on, yeah? Because I don't have the TPM chip. she Trusted platform module on this motherboard. I don't have the the little encrypti chip.
00:13:15
jamie peacock
And finding one for, yeah, no, that's thing.
00:13:15
Curt
Oh, i didn't even know that was a thing.
00:13:17
jamie peacock
Your board needs to actually have a separate little chip for storing your, and i don't know, magic. Yeah. Fuck knows. So i went and looked for rep replacement motherboards for a 1151, I think.
00:13:30
jamie peacock
LGA 1151. None of the boards that are available anymore support it. So I can't actually take the CPU.
00:13:36
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:37
jamie peacock
I was just going everything new motherboard and go Windows 11. Nope.
00:13:41
Curt
Yeah.
Computer Upgrades Discussion
00:13:43
jamie peacock
It's like, yeah, it's rather tiresome.
00:13:46
Curt
yeah yeah
00:13:47
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's what it is. New PC once RAM prices come down.
00:13:51
Curt
I'm going to build my, I'll probably build my wife a PC. She has my old gaming PC right now. Cause it has a fresh install. It's crazy quick. You just can't install windows 11 on it.
00:13:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:59
Curt
Um, so I'm like, you know what? You can use this. All you do is like zoom and the occasional like Google search on it, everything else she does on her phone.
00:14:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:07
Curt
So i's like, and then I'll build you a nice PC when Ram prices aren't sky high.
00:14:11
jamie peacock
I'm serious considering a Mac Mini. Either that or a MacBook.
00:14:14
Curt
There's not a bad idea.
00:14:15
jamie peacock
Or a MacBook.
00:14:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:17
jamie peacock
I might have to wait till September and just pick one up while I'm there and move my day to day onto a Mac mini and then or a MacBook and then take that PC and bring it inside.
00:14:21
Curt
I would, uh,
00:14:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. And then this might just become a NAS nas PC. Just set up huge archiving storage on it like a bunch of bunch of SSDs and or a bunch of spilling disks and just let it sit there with with a RAID array that I know my shit is permanently backed up.
00:14:46
Curt
Yep. Yep. No, totally. i so I see the value in that.
00:14:47
jamie peacock
no not a Not the dumbest idea ever.
00:14:48
Curt
Yep.
00:14:51
jamie peacock
Also, have you hooked your Siemens controller to your network yet?
00:14:55
Curt
No, no, I have not. I need to. I am still a sneaker netting.
00:14:58
jamie peacock
Harsh judgment, good.
00:15:00
Curt
Oh, I bet. Yeah, i I deserve it.
00:15:01
jamie peacock
Harsh judgment.
00:15:02
Curt
I deserve it. I deserve it.
00:15:03
jamie peacock
I don't do that fucking can bullshit. i made so I made a folder called Autorun on my NAS for dumping the
00:15:10
Curt
Okay.
00:15:12
jamie peacock
Well, the sub-program, the machining program, and my automation program on from Grip CNC. Grip CNC, sorry. Grip CNC.
00:15:20
Curt
Okay.
00:15:21
jamie peacock
Because that is now working.
00:15:23
Curt
Cool.
00:15:24
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:15:24
Curt
Cool. Cool.
00:15:25
jamie peacock
So I told Matt to talk about it. So Grip CNC generates all your load and unload code for...
00:15:31
Curt
Okay.
00:15:32
jamie peacock
Yes, for grippers, for spindle grippers, and vacuum grippers, and grip grip stations, and single station, and dump it in a bucket station.
00:15:36
Curt
Okay.
00:15:42
jamie peacock
um so you basically go through the whole, like it's a wizard you click through, and it's now working for Siemens, because I've been testing it for Siemens, and basically shits out the code, and then it just calls a sub-program that does your machining, and then goes back, unloads the part, loads the next one.
00:15:51
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:59
jamie peacock
So there will definitely be a link in the in the show notes.
00:16:00
Curt
Interesting.
00:16:03
jamie peacock
um
00:16:03
Curt
Yeah, I'm looking at it right now.
00:16:04
Curt
Yeah, cool.
00:16:05
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's really, really sweet and makes it so easy.
00:16:11
Curt
Cool. Well, it's gripcnc.com for people that don't check the show notes.
00:16:12
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yes.
00:16:15
Curt
So, interesting.
00:16:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, there will be a link in the show notes. And please go check it out because I think it is going to drop the barrier of entry for Spindle Grippers to basically nothing.
00:16:25
Curt
Right, right, right.
00:16:26
jamie peacock
No, it makes it so simple because that's the complicated bit, the macros.
00:16:26
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:16:29
jamie peacock
So I've been chatting to Matt and he was like, what are you doing for macros?
00:16:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:34
jamie peacock
like, I haven't got there yet. That's the next challenge. He's like, no, no, hang on. And then I had called him a few weeks ago where we discussed it and then he's got a beta license for me to play with and get it compatible with with Siemens.
00:16:47
jamie peacock
So there was like, there's a bunch of syntax stuff that had to change. The way tools are called had to change. Um... The way delays are done had to change. like so i yeah Extended works sets work offsets had to change.
00:17:00
jamie peacock
I ruined my work offsets this morning testing code.
00:17:01
Curt
That
00:17:03
jamie peacock
um So the center of rotation for X and Z of my, not X, sorry, Y and Z of my fourth axis were saved in G514 and 515.
00:17:17
jamie peacock
And smart dick Jamie went and used them to run a test program and had to reset the center line of his machine today.
00:17:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, I was a little bit pissed when I figured that out. And I wiped out like both of them. says go Just go one set up. Yeah, fucking idiot.
00:17:24
Curt
but sucks
00:17:31
Curt
You what?
00:17:32
jamie peacock
um So yeah, i need to put a big sign on the front machine. Those are sacred. Because like setting it up again is not the end of the world.
00:17:38
Curt
you know
00:17:39
jamie peacock
It's just a little bit annoying.
00:17:41
Curt
I think what I need to do is just open the offsets page on like on my controller and just film a video and just slowly scroll through all of them and just have that as like my like if the world ends I still have like a visual backup that I can manually enter them like because same thing I'm like one day I'm just gonna be like oh shit that was a really annoying one to probe in.
00:17:54
jamie peacock
You've got a backup, yeah.
00:18:01
jamie peacock
Yeah. So, like, something I learned from running the Acutex Wirecutter. To set the the x um X, Y, and Z of your G54, you just typed in G54 and hit Enter in the little text thing.
00:18:18
jamie peacock
If you wanted to jog back there, you typed m g fifty four So whenever I probed a hole and I'd set G54, I'd also set G59. That way, when I inevitably tried to move it there and forgot the M, I could then move it to G59 and then reset my G54.
00:18:34
jamie peacock
So I always have like, even my anchor points, the one is G...
00:18:35
Curt
Yeah. Yep, yep, yep.
00:18:38
jamie peacock
fifty seven g
00:18:43
jamie peacock
507, 508. one is 517, 518, 527, 528, 537, 538.
00:18:48
jamie peacock
five two eight five three seven five flat that there are If I forget to come out of that offset, like i run a job and I leave it in that offset and I go and probe something in zero, oh shit, it's on the wrong offset, but I can recover.
00:19:02
Curt
Totally, yep.
00:19:02
jamie peacock
ae Yeah, the nerd things. um But yeah, otherwise you lose, you got reprobe stuff and that's just horrible. That's the whole point of a zero point is that you don't.
00:19:09
Curt
Yeah, well, oh, and you have a thousand offsets, like just, yeah, sacrifice a few for backups.
00:19:13
jamie peacock
Exactly. Well, I mean, I've got yeah my warm up cycles on, I think, G58 or 59.
00:19:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:21
jamie peacock
And then I've got G599 is the middle of travel. G510 is the middle of the anchor point. There's a million offsets and a lot of them are documented on my little setup sheet. But I didn't read that this morning when I was making my gripper things.
00:19:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:35
Curt
Yeah, yeah, fair. Yeah.
00:19:36
jamie peacock
yeah But john Matt's updating that like on a daily basis. I pointed out that you could be an absolute moron and set your pick place from your tray, that work coordinate set to the same one as your vase.
00:19:47
jamie peacock
And it will put out code. So he fixed that. That is design there a conflict.
00:19:51
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:19:51
jamie peacock
It's like you should never
00:19:52
Curt
Yeah.
Introduction to Grip CNC
00:19:53
jamie peacock
have that happen.
00:19:53
Curt
got annoying Yeah. Yep. Cool.
00:19:53
jamie peacock
But people are stupid. So got to make it idiot proof. But yeah, a really, really powerful tool. And I know he's got a, you we're discussing, there's a ah demo tier or free tier where it doesn't generate all the code. It just generates like one pick in place that you can see what it's going to output.
00:20:12
jamie peacock
And then it's behind a paywall, but it's not a significant paywall.
00:20:17
Curt
cool.
00:20:17
jamie peacock
It's basically covering the costs.
00:20:17
Curt
ah that's cool
00:20:18
jamie peacock
And I think if you buy a SpindleGripper, that's the way to go. Like, we're chatting about it.
00:20:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:23
jamie peacock
and He ran a job. He ran it through there. It took him 10 minutes to program. When he programmed with his old macro set, it took him two days to get it running.
00:20:32
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:33
jamie peacock
It's literally two days to 10 minutes. It's that quick. So, yeah. It's really, really cool. And I told him I punted because it's really cool.
00:20:42
Curt
Cool. That's awesome. I like when people do something that is, yeah.
00:20:42
jamie peacock
Yeah. Also, go follow him on Instagram.
00:20:46
Curt
I'm going to search them up. Yeah.
00:20:47
jamie peacock
Yes, because ah you get to see my machine on there as well.
00:20:47
Curt
I like that. I like that kind of work.
00:20:51
jamie peacock
Ha-ha.
00:20:51
Curt
o influencer.
00:20:52
jamie peacock
Yes, because i mean I've been machining air. I've been loading imaginary parts and their imaginary frames and machining them just to run through like the whole code just to make sure everything cycles through and there's no funny syntax errors and things like that.
00:21:05
Curt
ace Nice. Nice.
00:21:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, so now i just need to get a pneumatic vice and then I can actually run the things. So, what thin disks are you machining, Gert?
00:21:11
Curt
yeah Cool, man. ah uh coins um so i have that big rod of bronze yeah no kidding right um that big uh rod a bronze and i have to make some coins because i have to run some tests have to shoot some video this week um and i was like i can like obviously front i want to have a coin that has it's pretty thick i'm going to do some going to do some edge engraving on it too with the fourth axis or like edge lasering yeah like i have to showcase all the features of this thing so i'm like well it's perfect perfect excuse
00:21:18
jamie peacock
Shock and awe.
00:21:33
jamie peacock
Mm.
00:21:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:39
Curt
So I'm like,
Machining Thin Bronze Coins
00:21:40
Curt
okay, easy to turn. I'm like face off piece of bronze. No problem. I'm like part of it off.
00:21:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:44
Curt
No problem. But I'm like, if I want to machine both sides, I'm like, and it's a thin disc, it's only five mil and it's 40 million diameter. So it's a kind of thin part.
00:21:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:52
Curt
So it's like, well, I can build or buy, build a pot chuck to like hold it. Um, And then I was like, oh, you know what I might do is I might just machine like the one face, part them off, and then throw them on my um mill and just let the mill face it and cham for the other side.
00:22:06
Curt
um Because i it have to do I have to do mill work on it anyway.
00:22:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:09
Curt
So that's probably what I'll do for production. But for ah for some testing, I think I'm just going to use a super glue arbor. I think I'm just going to face the front of these little coins.
00:22:14
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:22:17
Curt
I'm going flip them, like part them off, flip them around, put them on a super glue Arbor, and then I can do the OD and the two side chamfer and then face the front and I'll have a fully finished, whack whack it off with a mallet or heat or whatever.
00:22:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
00:22:28
jamie peacock
yeah
00:22:28
Curt
going to do that. um I have never tried a super glue Arbor.
00:22:28
jamie peacock
umm I'm literally going the same thing this week with acrylic, making lenses for a mining lot, sample lenses.
00:22:38
Curt
Okay.
00:22:39
jamie peacock
So we're going to cut some blanks out of acrylic.
00:22:39
Curt
Okay.
00:22:43
jamie peacock
Face plates, put a block of aluminium in the chuck in the lathe, face it down, put some grooves, um masking tape, stick it on, and then a face grooving tool, because I've got to machine this stupid profile.
00:22:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:54
jamie peacock
So that's a later in the week problem, once I put the chuck back into my lathe, because currently it has the collared chuck in it, and I'm going finish what I'm doing it before I take it out.
00:22:55
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:23:04
jamie peacock
Although, it's all of 10 minutes, but not the point.
00:23:04
Curt
yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. No, exactly.
00:23:09
jamie peacock
Yeah, you know how it goes.
00:23:10
Curt
Yeah. And kind of thinking about this and I was like, yeah, I think it,
00:23:12
jamie peacock
Mental inertia.
00:23:14
Curt
and that's that was my thing i'm like the mental inertia of like putting it in the mill and then okay i'm like i'll have to build soft jaws for it then i have to do the coat and it's simple to be chamfer face not a big deal but i'm like i just want i just want a handful of these to test i'm like why don't i just use super glue like it's it's gonna take me more time to break down each one and put a new one on but like who cares like i'm gonna do a handful of them yeah just yeah so yeah totally right so yeah i think i'll
00:23:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:29
jamie peacock
But that's fine. Yeah, it's yeah it's not production.
00:23:35
jamie peacock
So even like now with a Mechanical Anger Point, the butt plugs, they get machined and slitting sawed off. Then they get put the other way around in the mill, faced off, and the drive drive holes put in. And it's like, oh, I hate the thought of making soft jaws for that.
00:23:50
jamie peacock
But I'm going to make however many of them. It's just not worth making a custom fixture. I'm going to probably change the design of the part for the next run. So, like...
00:24:01
Curt
Yep.
00:24:02
jamie peacock
Yeah, soft jaws work. And the problem is it's 2mm thick part.
00:24:05
Curt
Yep.
00:24:06
jamie peacock
So I don't really have that many work-holding options.
00:24:10
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:24:10
jamie peacock
the Yeah, so like I could screw it in and then stop it rotating somehow, but me more easier to just put it in soft jaws.
00:24:19
Curt
yeah yeah i know yeah that'd be good yeah
00:24:19
jamie peacock
Should probably get some flex traverses. Those would be ideal.
00:24:25
jamie peacock
Yeah. But yeah, did you see the stupidness I pulled today, Kurt?
00:24:32
Curt
uh with your plate on your fourth with an adapter with a anchor point with another ah thing and a holy man that was a stack up and a half yeah i did see so
00:24:36
jamie peacock
The chuck into an anchor point. Yeah.
00:24:41
jamie peacock
Dude, I was like, what's the worst that could happen? Dude, it worked perfectly. the Mechanical anchor point is rigid enough to do that dumb shit and drill a six millimeter hole in stainless with an end bill.
00:24:52
jamie peacock
huck
00:24:53
Curt
of the For the listeners, it was just a whole stack up on his fourth axis with a long, with three jaw on it, and then a little part way at the end of this nine foot long extension.
00:24:56
jamie peacock
Yeah. So.
00:25:00
jamie peacock
Yeah. So it was the Jang plate. Yeah. Then it was a mechanical anchor point with a pallet with a 125mm chuck on that with a part in that. So like the stick out was just stupid.
00:25:14
jamie peacock
I was actually worried that the anchor point wouldn't be rigid enough, but no problems.
00:25:19
Curt
That's awesome.
00:25:19
jamie peacock
Like none whatsoever.
00:25:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:21
jamie peacock
So yeah, the gripper cages are all now milled and they're going to go into the lathe tomorrow to get parted off and off forward. And then those are done for the mechanicals.
00:25:30
jamie peacock
So we are successfully knocking down components on the mechanical anchor points, which are being released in 12 days.
00:25:30
Curt
that's cool that's cool
00:25:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, so the deadline is rapidly approaching, but I'm not worried.
00:25:46
Curt
exactly yeah you said that with all the confidence
00:25:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, but I was quite quite shocked quite shock how rigid that setup was.
00:25:54
Curt
Yeah, like, I mean, almost any system, I was like, that's a lot of that's a lot of stick out, even if it was solid. So that's impressive. Yeah.
00:26:01
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, oh I was quite happy with it. And when I took the chuck off, like, it wasn't like I was sitting there fretting or anything. Like, the there were some marks, but they were there before on the bottom of that the chuck, the chuck pallet. Those marks were there previously from putting it in a pneumatic anchor point and then stacking up, like, six inches of shit above it and then trying to go full ham machining it.
00:26:28
jamie peacock
So, yeah. it did well I was very very happy with it um yeah so what par 5 cases have you been looking at
00:26:30
Curt
and Yeah, it's impressive.
00:26:37
Curt
Okay, I just like, because I was like, you know what? I'm like, maybe I'll, was going replace my home assistant system with like a mini PC and I probably still will, but mini PCs are quite spendy right now.
00:26:44
jamie peacock
yeah yes because RAM
00:26:47
Curt
um So, like you know what? I'm like, yeah, because RAM. i was like, you know what? I could just buy a little Pi 5 and a a Coral accelerator, um which is, it's going to be roughly the same cost as a mini PC, but besides point.
00:26:59
Curt
And I was like, that would probably handle all my needs for the next while. I don't have like a bajillion cameras. have a handful of cameras and some small automations.
00:27:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:04
Curt
um but So i I was like, oh, I wonder what kind of Pi 5 cases are out there.
Raspberry Pi 5 Case Designs
00:27:09
Curt
They are so cool. They look like mini desktops.
00:27:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:12
Curt
Like they're glass and like they mount in there and they got fans and like they're so cool looking. Like it's going to go in my like, quote, server room.
00:27:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:20
Curt
You'll never see it in my basement. um But it's so cool looking.
00:27:21
jamie peacock
But you'll know it looks cool.
00:27:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:25
jamie peacock
So I've got power five with a passive heatsink. I had to add a fan to it because the passive wasn't keeping up with running home assistants. So I put a fan on top of it, and it's fine. My neighbor just swapped his into a fancy case that has like a Zigbee module, and he was trying to get that working and somehow wiped out his install.
00:27:44
Curt
Oh, no.
00:27:45
jamie peacock
And then he had a backup, but he didn't copy the key, so he couldn't use the backup. So eventually he installed in one afternoon like five times.
00:27:51
Curt
Oh, bummer.
00:27:54
jamie peacock
He had to so from scratch start again with home assistance. And eventually got it all all back up and running, like managed to find an older backup and came right.
00:28:04
Curt
Nice, nice.
00:28:04
jamie peacock
But yeah, ah so I bought Power 5s last week. I bought two of them. And I bought a seven-inch touchscreen to run Linux CNC.
00:28:11
Curt
Ooh.
00:28:14
Curt
That's cool.
00:28:15
jamie peacock
And it works pretty freaking well, yeah, for the grinders.
00:28:15
Curt
That's for your grinder. Mm-hmm.
00:28:19
jamie peacock
The second screen arrives. I bought one screen just to test. The second one arrives tomorrow. And then I'm waiting on DHL for the breakout boards, the hat and the breakout board. Then I can get that all actually together and doing what it's supposed to do and start designing brackets and stuff to get that project all all buttoned up.
00:28:35
Curt
Nice.
00:28:38
jamie peacock
But yeah, that really cool little touchscreen. Not particularly expensive either. think it was like $80 or so.
00:28:46
Curt
Wow.
00:28:47
jamie peacock
No. And yeah, I think you could, if you were writing code, I wouldn't do it that way.
00:28:47
Curt
Wow.
00:28:54
jamie peacock
I'd plug a keyboard and mouse in, but for general operation, the touchscreen is going to be more than adequate because you, like if you push to set an offset, it pops up on screen numpads.
00:28:59
Curt
Nice. OK.
00:29:05
jamie peacock
You just type in the numbers and hit enter and you're good to go. Like Jim Okape is pretty touchscreen friendly.
00:29:14
Curt
Well, and you could, like, if you really need it, you can add a gang of buttons. Like, it's so customizable to, like, do you want to add just some soft touch buttons?
00:29:18
jamie peacock
100%. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:22
Curt
Like, done.
00:29:24
jamie peacock
So I don't think I'm going to bother. I don't even know if I'll have a start button. We'll see how feel. There'll definitely be a big oh fuck button, but that's just because you have to have that.
00:29:33
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:29:34
jamie peacock
Otherwise, shit goes awry.
00:29:34
Curt
Yeah, allegedly. Yeah.
00:29:36
jamie peacock
um Before we continue, we need to shout out our Patreons. who I have reordered because it was hurting my brain. um The Patreons, all the paid Patreons, get access to the After Show, where today I'm goingnna rage about Bridgerton.
00:29:51
jamie peacock
um It's going to be great. Like, it's going to be proper train-loving moments. But yes, our Patreons make the wheels on the train go round and round.
00:30:00
jamie peacock
Special thanks to Jade from Benchmark20, Luke from Fabtastic, AJ from Subtract Manufacturing and 31 other companies, Jason S, EJ from Alternal Welding, The Aussie Machinist, Christian Olson, Charles Watt, Carl from Cursed Machine, Matt from Wolf World Gear, and Alex B.
00:30:01
Curt
Wow,
00:30:16
jamie peacock
um Just delete that because it's a duplicate.
00:30:18
Curt
there's a gang of them now.
00:30:19
jamie peacock
um Yeah, I moved EJ and AJ because that was breaking my brain every week because they were next to each other. So I rearranged it a little bit.
00:30:25
Curt
Okay, fair.
00:30:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, that was hurting my head. um But yeah, the Patreons are making it possible to go to IMTS and stay in not the streets. So yeah, should be should be fun. Look forward to to that whole situation.
00:30:39
jamie peacock
And yeah, they get the after show. So hang around. Well, Patreons, hang around for that. Everyone else, join the Patreon if you want hear me rage about Bridgerton. Which is really a retarded thing to rage about, but sure.
00:30:48
Curt
I want to hear you rage about Bridgerton.
00:30:52
jamie peacock
Oh, we do have a question this week. Because while I was cleaning out my machine, I put a call for questions and a question came through.
00:30:56
Curt
Hmm.
00:31:00
jamie peacock
So we'll get to that later on.
00:31:00
Curt
Ooh, okay.
00:31:02
jamie peacock
um
00:31:03
Curt
Ooh.
00:31:04
jamie peacock
So let me quickly cover this one.
00:31:07
Curt
Let's... I say, yeah, you got more, so go nuts.
00:31:09
jamie peacock
Yeah, Bertha is running production.
00:31:13
Curt
Hmm, Okay.
00:31:14
jamie peacock
So over the weekend, Commissioner got Bertha running um with a bar. had print some parts for a bar pusher because ah the 12mm bar pusher had never actually pushed bar.
00:31:26
jamie peacock
It was just a spindle liner. So I quickly printed him the parts for one. And then he got, I made him a little gang block and he got that all running over the weekend and kept phoning me for with questions.
00:31:31
Curt
Okay.
00:31:37
jamie peacock
I'm like, dude, go jump in the deep end. If you start drowning, phone me. And then he was looking at example code on the machine because I left all the old programs on there and eventually got it cycling in full auto, making little brass parts in like a minute 30. I'm like, dude, that is faster than that machine has ever made a part.
00:31:55
jamie peacock
i think the fastest I ever got it to make a part was a minute 30 and i was feeding while doing 2000 RPM. He's stopping the spindle and feeding the material forward.
00:32:05
Curt
Oh, is it just because now it has a break so that it's like.
00:32:07
jamie peacock
now it has a 4kW VFD on a 2kW motor, so it can actually stop when you tell it to you, so he's now, he's running, he's got to run like 450 of them, and it's a recurring job, so I'm like, sweet dude, living your best life, like,
00:32:11
Curt
OK, yeah. Fair.
00:32:20
Curt
Nice.
00:32:22
jamie peacock
And he did really well getting it all programmed and whatnot and yeah had it making good parts and then was a little confused about the automation, like the auto cycles and stuff. So no, no, no worries. Send it to me. I quickly edited it for him, sent it back. I'm like, oh, delete that line of code. I forgot to delete.
00:32:36
jamie peacock
And then it was running.
00:32:38
Curt
That's awesome. I'm glad it's getting used.
00:32:39
jamie peacock
So no yeah, dude, had things run all sorts of parts.
00:32:40
Curt
Yeah, it's good.
00:32:43
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, he's now got an Instagram as well. um Thunder Mountain is his company name.
00:32:50
Curt
Cool.
00:32:50
jamie peacock
We might throw a link in if I remember. um But yeah, go check him out. he's got tida He had 99 followers, I followed him with one of my other Instagram accounts, so he could have 100.
00:32:59
Curt
Proper.
00:32:59
jamie peacock
Because I'm not slacked out, yes.
00:33:00
Curt
That's... If that lathe could talk, can you imagine how many times it's probably paid for itself?
00:33:01
jamie peacock
But y'all, it's...
00:33:04
Curt
Like, it's original price, how many times it's probably paid for itself.
00:33:06
jamie peacock
Dude. Dude. Like, that thing i made so much made me so much money, it's not even funny. Like, on multiple occasions, it recouped the entire cost of the machine and the retrofit in like a week.
00:33:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:20
Curt
Yeah, yeah, and no doubt.
00:33:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, that thing fucking printed money.
00:33:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:24
jamie peacock
The Emco still prints money. Like, yeah, the Goodway is coming up on covering its own cost already, and it's run fucking two of the jobs it was bought for.
00:33:28
Curt
Yeah, it's...
00:33:34
jamie peacock
It's run that twice. And it's coming up on covering its cost.
00:33:36
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Lay's are really good at that.
00:33:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, later...
00:33:41
Curt
Mill's good good too, but Lay's are fast.
00:33:43
jamie peacock
lathes are just full of freaking magic. Like even now I ran the gripper assemblies over the weekend and I ran off enough for 30-ish mechanical anchor points. And it took me like, I think not even half a day.
00:33:57
jamie peacock
I was, the mill was running and I was just potting between the machines, knocking those things out.
00:34:01
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:34:02
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, lathes are super great. Like even now, i' got a whole bunch of other random crap to put on the lathes, but they just make pots.
00:34:05
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:10
jamie peacock
They're really good at making round things.
00:34:11
Curt
Yep. Yep. No doubt. No doubt.
00:34:14
jamie peacock
um
00:34:15
Curt
All right.
00:34:15
jamie peacock
Kurt, have you machined Ultem?
00:34:17
Curt
yeah sir I have. I've. Yeah. Yeah. I've machine helped them. Yep.
00:34:21
jamie peacock
Do you have some advice?
00:34:23
Curt
Are you milling it or turning it or?
00:34:25
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:34:27
Curt
Both. Okay.
00:34:27
jamie peacock
Milling it.
00:34:27
Curt
Okay.
00:34:28
jamie peacock
No, no, just milling.
00:34:29
Curt
Oh, milling it? Okay.
00:34:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:34:30
Curt
i I don't know. I can give you my feeds and speeds. I basically just, ah I honk on it.
00:34:34
jamie peacock
Treat it as aluminium.
00:34:36
Curt
ah Yeah, I treat it as like i aluminium aluminum. Aluminum. Aluminum.
00:34:40
jamie peacock
Aluminuminum.
00:34:40
Curt
And then like, yeah, there's like almost no limits to like depth until it gets like pulling it out of the fixtures or whatever. Like, i don't know.
00:34:48
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:34:48
jamie peacock
So that I was just...
00:34:49
Curt
it's it's It machines well.
00:34:50
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:34:50
jamie peacock
I was warned about drilling it. It can get a bit weird when you drill it.
00:34:55
Curt
It's a little stringy. It's kind of like acrylic, but it's I find it nice.
00:34:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:34:59
Curt
Like sharp tools, just use don't use tools that you've ran through or anything else.
00:35:00
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:35:03
Curt
Just use brand new sharp carbide, and the machine's like beautiful.
00:35:05
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:35:06
Curt
yeah Yeah, it's really easy to work with.
00:35:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, I bought some Altum. There's going to be some Altum Flux. Specifically two of them, because that's how much Altum I have.
00:35:11
Curt
Oh.
00:35:12
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:35:13
Curt
Oh, cool. Yeah, I love Ultima.
00:35:14
jamie peacock
Oh, don't worry. There's...
00:35:16
Curt
Sorry.
00:35:17
jamie peacock
just Just throw it, Kurt.
00:35:17
Curt
Carry on.
00:35:18
jamie peacock
Just just throw it. um Yeah, found titanium, crystal titanium as well, but that's stupid expensive.
00:35:27
Curt
I need to get some crystal tie. I keep, yeah.
00:35:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, like per flak, it's...
00:35:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:34
jamie peacock
Sorry, just doing that here. 90-ish dollars, just for the material.
00:35:39
Curt
What? real It's not that expensive.
00:35:41
jamie peacock
It's a stupid size.
00:35:42
Curt
We'll talk. We'll talk.
00:35:43
jamie peacock
It's a stupid size.
00:35:43
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:35:44
jamie peacock
i can It doesn't work well for my size part, but when they bring another sheet and I can have them cut it to the size as I want if I buy a whole sheet.
00:35:52
Curt
ah Okay. okay
00:35:53
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's also, I don't want to sink a whole lot of money into making crystal titanium things that are going to sit in stock, but I have got another product that that will work perfectly with, and I'm going design it to fit in the crystal, the Tarmascis, and the normal titanium.
00:35:58
Curt
Fair enough. Yeah,
00:36:11
jamie peacock
so I can make it out of normal titanium, because it has to be titanium for the design, um just for the how I want it to flex. So I'm going to make it out titanium, then I'll move on to the more fancier titaniums.
00:36:22
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:22
jamie peacock
Yes, I have some plans.
00:36:24
Curt
Cool.
00:36:24
jamie peacock
But yeah, those are plans for long down the road, because right now we're in the midst of like a million different projects.
00:36:28
Curt
yeah
00:36:32
Curt
That's usually how it works. You want to have a issue with ultimate.
00:36:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:35
Curt
It's wonderful.
00:36:36
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:36:36
Curt
I machine with coolant and just whale on it.
00:36:37
jamie peacock
Okay. Okay, just go full send, yeah. No, that's fine.
00:36:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, bought I bought two pieces that are meant for knife scales. I showed someone on the price and they're like, what? I'm like, yeah, it's ultimate. It's not even that expensive.
00:36:47
Curt
Yeah. Piss plastic.
00:36:49
jamie peacock
Compared to some other shit that I've machined, it's not that expensive.
00:36:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:36:53
jamie peacock
fuck So, what statues are you selling, Kurt?
00:36:59
Curt
Sorry, one sec. I knocked a big board off one second. There
00:37:01
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:37:05
jamie peacock
I would say Googling on the podcast, but it should be picking up on the podcast.
00:37:05
Curt
we go.
00:37:05
Curt
Okay, sorry folks.
00:37:08
Curt
Yeah, I have a giant like thing under my foot where my printer used to be and I got rid of my printer because it was frustrating me and now it just sits there loose and I bump it off with my foot and then it's it's a big like one inch thick piece of maple and it makes a lot of noise.
00:37:21
Curt
It crashes to the floor.
00:37:21
jamie peacock
Okay, I know, that'll make a fair bit of noise.
00:37:24
Curt
Yeah. ah Statues.
Selling Unused Tools
00:37:26
Curt
So I had behind me sitting, you would it probably would never see it, but there was a engine hu hoist sitting there that has sat there for, since I put this lathe on its concrete pedestals, it has sat there and I have never used it.
00:37:26
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:37:32
jamie peacock
Yes!
00:37:40
Curt
And I've been like, you know what? This will be perfect for when I want to lift something heavy. And i was like, what am I doing? So I just sold it this weekend. um Selling statues.
00:37:46
jamie peacock
Nice, that's what I did with...
00:37:47
Curt
That's what the, yeah.
00:37:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:49
Curt
It's like why?
00:37:49
jamie peacock
That's what I did.
00:37:50
jamie peacock
That's actually how I met the guy bought Bertha, was selling the A-frame I made to put the top on the Condier and to offload the Emco.
00:37:50
Curt
why
00:37:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:00
Curt
Okay.
00:38:00
jamie peacock
I built an A-frame that just fits into my workshop, and he needed an A-frame to move a lathe into his workshop. And he found me on Marketplace, and then we got chatting, and that's how he ended up buying Bertha.
00:38:07
Curt
Okay.
00:38:13
Curt
h Yeah. It's like, I know.
00:38:15
jamie peacock
You build these things for the jobs, and then yeah they don't need to hang around.
00:38:16
Curt
know
00:38:20
Curt
Well, and I like, said it like it wasn't, it wasn't expensive. Like it was three, don't know, 350 bucks or something like that when I bought it. So I was like, well, I'm like, it's it expensive enough that I'm like, i'll I don't want to like, just like give it away.
00:38:31
Curt
And then I was like, what am I doing? Like, I'm like, would I, I'm like, if someone came and gave me whatever, a one hundred bucks for it, would I let it go? I'm like, probably because I'm sick of moving it.
00:38:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:38:38
Curt
So I got more on than that for it. But, ah but now it's, it gets used. Some kid is building a project car. He gets to use it to lift the engine out and like, I'm jazzed. His dad picked it up for him and he was all excited. So I'm like, you know what? That makes me feel better too.
00:38:48
Curt
Like it's out of my hair, a little bit of, yeah, shekels in my pocket and it's going to get used as opposed to just collecting dust.
00:38:49
jamie peacock
Yeah. You know it's going to a good home.
00:38:55
Curt
So yeah.
00:38:56
jamie peacock
So I sold a bunch of shavings or scrap this week.
00:39:01
Curt
Ooh.
00:39:01
jamie peacock
um Should lost the thing. Sorry, I'm just doing some maths here. So you remember when the anodizers did me dirty and scrapped all my parts?
00:39:12
Curt
Yes.
00:39:12
jamie peacock
Yes, that was $400 of raw material in those parts.
00:39:13
Curt
Yes.
00:39:16
jamie peacock
Never mind all the machining and shit.
00:39:17
Curt
Woo.
00:39:18
jamie peacock
How much you think I got for that $400 worth of material when I scrapped it out?
00:39:18
Curt
Sure, yeah.
00:39:23
Curt
Oh, you just scrapped it all? oh
00:39:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:25
Curt
I don't know.
00:39:27
jamie peacock
20 whole dollars
00:39:28
Curt
Yeah, I was going to say, it's probably something just anemic.
00:39:31
jamie peacock
but it was on my floor and annoying me so the scrap guy came over the weekend i'm just like take it take it and vi like i don't fucking care just take it away um along with all the wires for i got more for the wires out of the good way than i did for the aluminum scrap yeah well it was a lot of insulation but the guy's like hey i'll give you 20 rand a kilo
00:39:37
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:46
Curt
Oh, I bet. Yeah. Copper. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
00:39:52
jamie peacock
So we weighed it and he fucking, yeah.
00:39:52
Curt
Nice.
00:39:54
jamie peacock
I'm like, cool, you're taking it away. i don't really give a shit. So I've been moving shavings and scrap.
00:39:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:00
jamie peacock
Because last week I got, on the so for my 400 kilograms, I ended up getting like $220-ish worth, hundred twenty dollars for the four hundred kilos of shavings So not too bad.
00:40:14
Curt
Nice. It's.
00:40:15
jamie peacock
um Yeah, that's all been stashed away as cash because it's obviously a cash deal. um Yeah, it's all been stashed away and going to be used for future projects.
00:40:27
Curt
Nefarious purposes.
00:40:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, pretty much. um
00:40:30
Curt
Yeah. It's so nice just to get clutter out of your world. Even if it's like, even if it's not economically viable, it's just like, it's so nice to like just mentally get it gone.
00:40:36
jamie peacock
So those those anchor point bodies were sitting in my office in boxes and I'm like, I'm never going to do anything with them. Just fucking yeet. Otherwise they're gonna sit there for another year and then they're going to get yeeted.
00:40:45
Curt
Yep.
00:40:48
jamie peacock
I'm not going to recover them.
00:40:49
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:49
jamie peacock
Like I'm not interested in making custom pins, any of that shit. Just throw them away and move on. So I did so and I moved on, hopefully.
00:40:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:59
jamie peacock
um
00:40:59
Curt
I know.
00:41:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's a difficult choice sometimes, but yeah.
00:41:01
Curt
was, say I have, Well, I have all my like rems that come out of the lay that, that won't feed. And I keep them for titanium because they're, they're long and they're titanium. And like, I make small parts. So like one day they'll be useful for something I build. And, but I, I just put them in a little bin and then whatever the bin starts to get full. Thankfully, usually someone reaches out on Instagram and they're like, they're learning about something or they want to make pens or they want to make something. And I'm like, Hey, and they're like, how do you machine titanium? i'm like, shoot me your address. Here's a bag of titanium, like go nuts. And, ah Yeah, I've done that to a few people now.
00:41:32
Curt
It's kind of fun to be like, here, I just, I'm like, maybe you'll be able to make use of it, but then it gets it out of my hair and like, I could recycle it, but like you get nothing for it.
00:41:39
jamie peacock
there So it's more valuable to them than it is recycled.
00:41:39
Curt
So
00:41:42
jamie peacock
Like I just ran around a batch parts off on the good way and the remnants like maybe 100 millimeters long of 30 diameter aluminium.
00:41:43
Curt
totally. Yeah.
00:41:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:53
jamie peacock
And I could get another part out of it, but I'd have to hand load it. And I'm like, nah, I'm
00:41:57
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:41:59
jamie peacock
Hey, Kamish, here's some material. Hey, Carl, here's some material. Like, keep it, use it.
00:42:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:05
jamie peacock
Fuck, I don't care. Just, I don't want it. And I tend to do with all my rems because you end up with a stack of remnants and then you just
Material Remnants & Supply Delays
00:42:11
jamie peacock
give them to someone who's actually going to maybe use them.
00:42:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:13
jamie peacock
Keep a few, but I don't want throw it in the in the scrap. Like, it could be valuable to somebody who needs material.
00:42:17
Curt
I know I have a, ah
00:42:20
Curt
I have like a, basically like a really big shoe box. And I'm like, once that's full, then I either just scrap it or, and I'm like, this is the amount I get to keep. And it it has helped me. Like I just before Christmas, I think November, something like that, my titanium order got delayed.
00:42:33
Curt
so I'm like, well, I have like 50 little off cuts that'll make three parts.
00:42:33
jamie peacock
yeah.
00:42:37
Curt
I just have to hand feed them. So I'm like, perfect. And I needed about 20 more parts. And so, yeah, hand fed it.
00:42:41
jamie peacock
yeah.
00:42:41
Curt
It took me an extra 20 minutes for the the parts, but like it saved me from having to wait the next week for the titanium to come in.
00:42:46
jamie peacock
yeah.
00:42:49
Curt
So yeah, anyways.
00:42:49
jamie peacock
No, that's even with the PTFE, I run on a regular basis. All the remnants get put in a box, and then inevitably the supplier can't supply. So then I'll run through all the longish remnants. I'll shove something up the bar pusher so that I can feed the remnants until there's nothing left.
00:43:03
jamie peacock
And I'll run an extra 10 parts off of every piece of remnants, and that gets me out of a pickle, and I don't have to go buy material.
00:43:03
Curt
Sure.
00:43:09
jamie peacock
like
00:43:10
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
00:43:11
jamie peacock
it It has come in handy, but also you've got to be careful that you don't...
00:43:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:16
jamie peacock
Just have a mountain of crap. Because it's very easy to just have a mountain of crap.
00:43:19
Curt
Yeah. 100%. 100%. It's a slippery slope. Mm, okay.
00:43:22
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:43:22
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:43:24
jamie peacock
I got asked the stupidest question last week.
00:43:24
Curt
slipp slope
00:43:28
jamie peacock
So, my lovely diesel sensor of friends.
00:43:28
Curt
no go
00:43:31
jamie peacock
um We did another project for them middle of last year. We designed an an enclosure that went to China to be injection molded. We're now doing a revision on that. And they want to do a version that they only need 1,500
00:43:45
jamie peacock
And they want me to mill these things out of a block of plastic. Uh, like they were thinking now, and like, that's a stupid idea. Uh, so we're going lean, going to speak to people. I want to lean towards PTG, uh, PT because the machine's really well in this UV stable.
00:43:57
Curt
OK.
00:43:58
jamie peacock
Um, and they're like, Oh, there anything we do about recycling material? Like, yeah, we live in Africa. You put it in the bin. They were quite upset with me.
00:44:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:05
jamie peacock
I'm like, it is what it is. Recycling doesn't actually exist. It gets shipped to a third world country. That's what happens.
00:44:11
Curt
Totally.
00:44:12
jamie peacock
Um,
00:44:12
Curt
Yep.
00:44:13
jamie peacock
But yeah, that that could potentially be quite a lucrative run of parts because they're not exactly small. They've got quite a lot of material removal. um So it could be a fun one. 1,500 parts are going to keep the LK busy for a while.
00:44:24
Curt
Hmm.
00:44:26
jamie peacock
May need to get myself a sign-up.
00:44:27
Curt
Yeah. Nice. Nice.
00:44:31
jamie peacock
And then...
00:44:32
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:33
jamie peacock
and then ah Yes, the smart lathe thing. So there is a link in the doobly-doo that I sent Kurt to watch before the podcast of smart lathe responding to Kaylee's cans with her video of having a tool change issue on her CLX lathe.
00:44:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:51
jamie peacock
Very, very, like, legit response. Like, i was quite impressed by them. Like, yes, we fucked up. And addressing the issues that she had, like...
00:44:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:00
Curt
That's so cool.
00:45:01
jamie peacock
And lock yeah like they said, the language barrier caused a lot of delay with trying to figure out what the problem is.
00:45:01
Curt
Yeah. i
00:45:07
jamie peacock
But that's to be expected.
00:45:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:09
jamie peacock
You're buying a Chinese lathe. You need to expect support in Chinese. But yeah, they seem to be a pretty decent company support-wise.
00:45:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:17
jamie peacock
um And like that issue that issue kind of should have cropped up in the factory, but I get that maybe it didn't because the machine was new and...
00:45:28
jamie peacock
Once it's got a few shavings in the seals and shit, it's going to be a bit tighter.
00:45:33
Curt
Sure, yeah, no, exactly.
00:45:34
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
00:45:34
Curt
There's...
00:45:34
jamie peacock
look ah it's I can understand how that that specific issue of her tool changer trying to go too fast and then throwing it along. I can understand how that would happen.
00:45:46
jamie peacock
mark In testing, you wouldn't pick that up unless you're running the machine for prolonged period of time doing actual cuts.
00:45:52
Curt
Come
00:45:53
jamie peacock
So, yeah. I kind of understand why. And you'd probably find if yeah if they were doing test setups, they would be going one or two stations at a time.
00:45:57
Curt
on, it was just... it
00:46:03
jamie peacock
They wouldn't be doing 180 degrees on the turret.
00:46:07
Curt
Well, it's just cool of them to like eat it. like they is They knew it, and they're like, yep, it's on us.
00:46:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:12
Curt
like and just I don't know.
00:46:12
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:46:14
Curt
It's it's cool. I like...
00:46:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, they're like, we fucked up. This is how we fucked up. They had graph that showed how they fucked up. It was quite cool.
00:46:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:21
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
00:46:22
Curt
Yeah, and that's even been...
00:46:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:23
Curt
That's been my experience with like even style too. Like, yeah, I had a ton of issues with them um off the hop, but like they owned all of them. Like never once did they put it on me to be like, it's your fault.
00:46:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:32
Curt
It's like, they're like, no, it was our fault. We had, it was our QC issues. Like they, they'd never once tried to hide by it And I got to respect a company like that does that.
00:46:37
jamie peacock
Yeah. And you would, you hope that they would be, the same as issue wouldn't go the door a second time.
00:46:39
Curt
That's, that's rare.
00:46:47
Curt
Yeah. And yeah,
00:46:47
jamie peacock
Because now they know it's an issue and they'll address it.
00:46:51
Curt
totally. Yep.
00:46:51
jamie peacock
At least you got to hope that that's what's going to happen.
00:46:52
Curt
Exactly.
00:46:55
Curt
Yeah, and I mean, look at your, they're scraping the bottom to try to build low-cost items. I get it.
00:46:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:00
Curt
You're going to have QC issues. Like, it just comes with the territory. You're you're not going to have, you can't afford to make the machines as good as other brands because they're half the price.
00:47:03
jamie peacock
exactly
00:47:10
Curt
So i get i get it, but it's just, it's cool that they're still trying to do it, yeah.
00:47:11
jamie peacock
yeah you don't yeah not exactly but yeah at least they're trying to do it and at least they're owning it when there's a mistake that's the the big thing yes
00:47:19
Curt
Yeah, yeah. it makes me It makes me consider them more. Yeah, because I was just like, eh. But I was like, you know what? I don't know. For a Swiss, I'm like, man maybe. Maybe. so We'll see.
00:47:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, ah we yell we that we will see because their little 7mm might actually be a very good fit for one of the products I do.
00:47:35
Curt
Oh, that is such a cute machine.
00:47:37
jamie peacock
It is adorable. I need to know whether it does spindle orientation. If it does spindle orientation, I'll put a fucking die grinder on that thing to do what I need to do.
00:47:45
Curt
yeah
00:47:45
jamie peacock
Like, I need to slit a part. I will fucking die grinder that thing. Running out a 6mm bar, it would be a machine dedicated to those that specific part number.
00:47:56
jamie peacock
and I would call it a day. Like, yeah, there's a bunch there's a bunch of stuff I do out of six-millimeter stock.
00:47:56
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:04
Curt
Yeah, that's cool.
00:48:04
jamie peacock
But anyway, um so year-end book closing.
00:48:07
Curt
Cool, yeah. Oh, yeah, the ever-exciting closing up the year. I find if I do it now, then I'm just less annoyed when it actually comes tax time to get it all done.
00:48:18
Curt
like Tax time should be now.
00:48:19
jamie peacock
When is your when is your year financial year-end there?
00:48:20
Curt
Anyway, tax time.
Tax Preparation Tips
00:48:24
Curt
I made my financial year end in January just so it's mentally easy.
00:48:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:28
Curt
um So yeah, I, but I, the way my business is structured, it has to be submitted partially with my personal. So it has to wait for personal deadline, which is a few months away. So it's just like, it's kind of clustered. um But besides the point I use, I use air table. That was the smartest thing I ever did was to put all my info and expenses. I basically like cash in, cash out accounting kind of like, and I put it all in air table and I have like a thing. So i just like take a picture of a receipt and then just like punch the data in and like,
00:48:54
Curt
I punch in my profits for the month and it calculates all my expenses and it shows me my growth per year. And it's like year end.
00:48:59
jamie peacock
you yeah
00:49:00
Curt
I just go, I'm like, well, save done. Like done. I'm done. Everything is done. Like it shows me all the details I need, all my, whatever I would need to submit. So yeah, that was, I, I highly suggest people to do that.
00:49:09
jamie peacock
Yeah, man.
00:49:11
Curt
You put the two minutes of work in all year and it's, yeah, don't have to worry about it at the end of the year.
00:49:11
jamie peacock
My financials have...
00:49:15
jamie peacock
So pay bean counter because I hate bean counting. um Our financial year end is now, but this, now the end of February, is submitting financials for last financial year.
00:49:19
Curt
Sure.
00:49:27
jamie peacock
So I've already signed off the financials like, I don't know, sometime like August last year.
00:49:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:32
jamie peacock
And then they now get submitted and taxed and all that fucking cuck. And then we close out for for this year and start in the next year and then all the financial. yeah I pay the dude so I don't have to think about it.
00:49:44
Curt
That's the way to do it. Yeah.
00:49:45
jamie peacock
Because if I do it, I'm going to jail.
00:49:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:48
jamie peacock
I don't know what I'm doing. I don't want to be a bean counter. I didn't get into machining to be a bean counter, so I just pay somebody to do it.
00:49:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:55
Curt
Yeah, and like at the, um actually, usually year end, I'll talk to like an accountant. And this one guy that I chat with, he's like, i want to talk to him like last year where I was talking about machines and
00:50:00
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:50:07
Curt
how the way you can structure it so you can use machine cost to, and you can amortize it over sex or however amount of years you want to, you know, offset your income.
00:50:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:50:16
Curt
But anyways, he was basically at the point where it's like you don't, you don't need me yet. He's like, you'll need me maybe in a little bit. He's like, but it's, I'm not worth your time right now to like, he's like, you can come down and sit with me.
00:50:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:50:25
Curt
We can, you know, buy a few hours of time and just chat. He's like, but it's, you don't need me full time. He's like, you're doing okay. And he's like, your, your taxes, like you're simple enough. So anyways, we'll see.
00:50:33
jamie peacock
Yeah. I think your situation is quite straightforward where you're selling a product that is your income.
00:50:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:39
jamie peacock
Whereas for me, it's job shopping, services, fucking everything. Like, yeah, everything under the sun.
00:50:46
Curt
Sure.
00:50:46
jamie peacock
So it's it's a bit of a different situation.
00:50:47
Curt
Sure.
00:50:49
jamie peacock
um But yeah, I pay being counted so I don't worry about going to jail.
00:50:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:53
jamie peacock
That is the gist of it.
00:50:54
Curt
Fair enough.
00:50:55
jamie peacock
And then, ah yeah, I figured out how to do grip-flip-grip on my machine with the ah with limited number of M codes that i currently have.
00:50:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:07
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:51:08
jamie peacock
I have a fourth axis. So I can just tell it to index 180 degrees and it'll index 180 degrees.
00:51:11
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay.
00:51:14
jamie peacock
It's on a m code already. um And then I'm short one m code to do the grip station on the grip grip on the flip and the chuck the sec the second pneumatic chuck except guess what they're never used at the same time.
00:51:32
jamie peacock
Because you unload from your second op
00:51:33
Curt
okay
00:51:35
jamie peacock
put it away, then you move from your first drop to your grip station, your flip station, flip, take it from there, it can flip back, and you put it in your VAS, in your OP2 VAS, and then you load one into the OP1 VAS.
00:51:47
jamie peacock
So with the current number of IO I have, I can make it all work.
00:51:48
Curt
Okay.
00:51:50
jamie peacock
So I'm going to design an anchor point pallet that's probably going to be more millimeters than it should be thick. Like I'm probably just, I'm not gonna, I'm gonna probably go for like ah a two inch plate or a 40 millimeter plate so that I can overhang the vases.
00:52:03
Curt
okay
00:52:07
jamie peacock
off the one side and still have the rigidity and then run all the way to the edge of my work envelope on the other side because I want to have as big a section for the parts tray as I can and also have a bit of space for the vases and then I can take that whole pallet on and off drop it on load code hit go and run production at night so yeah that's it's to a fun one it's going be an expensive piece of material
00:52:20
Curt
Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah. Gotcha.
00:52:30
Curt
I gotcha. I gotcha. Yeah, yeah,
00:52:35
jamie peacock
But I think very, very worth it.
00:52:36
Curt
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:52:38
jamie peacock
Like with how easy it is to program, I'm considering doing it on part runs of like 20, where it's a four five minute cycle time. Just spend the time quickly set it up and let it run without me standing there.
00:52:52
Curt
Yeah, fair. Fair, for fair, fair.
00:52:53
jamie peacock
I mean, even if it runs five in a row, that's fine.
00:52:53
Curt
Yeah,
00:52:55
jamie peacock
It's five more than me having to walk there every two minutes. Because over the weekend, I had cycle times in the like three minute cycle range. And then you can do nothing.
00:53:02
Curt
that's brutal.
00:53:05
Curt
Yeah, no, exactly. how You're just a slave to the machine.
00:53:08
jamie peacock
So I want to be not a slave to the machine. And then I also ordered a little inline Venturi and some suction cups, like three different sizes.
00:53:16
Curt
and cool, for like flat paper flat plate plate cup or whatever.
00:53:17
jamie peacock
of Yeah, so like the stuff i was running over the weekend, if I design my gripper correctly, I can pick up a vacuum on the raw stock and pick up, because the part's got a pretty, it's a semicircle.
00:53:19
Curt
but It's a tongue twister.
00:53:29
jamie peacock
I can pick up the finished part as well with same vacuum gripper. So then I can come in, load the part, then offload it with a vacuum as well, and I can pretty quickly set that up to to run.
00:53:41
jamie peacock
So now just case so of finishing the anchor points that I'm busy with so that I can buy a vase.
00:53:42
Curt
cool.
00:53:47
jamie peacock
Or two.
00:53:47
Curt
Cool. Nice. Oh, speaking of, speaking of part picking, did you see like Prusa's little like a part picker or like a little suction lifter or like magnet putter in her inner for their tool changing printer?
00:53:49
jamie peacock
Probably two.
00:53:59
jamie peacock
No.
00:54:00
Curt
It just came across my feed. I don't know if they had this for a while. um But yeah, they have like a little magnet injector. So if you want to put like magnets in your prints, it can like tool change to that and then like put a bunch of magnets in and then, you know, break big the print head back and keep printing.
00:54:14
Curt
And I think it also has a little like suction lifter so it can like pick up whatever. i don't know. Let's say ah q r or a or not a QR, but a um like RFID tag or something and plop it in.
00:54:24
jamie peacock
RFID, yeah.
00:54:25
Curt
or something. I don't know what exactly they have plans for, but I was like, oh, that's kind of, I i knew they that was kind of the plan to do different tool changers, but I saw it, I saw like a little production unit for it. I was like, oh, that's pretty freaking slick.
00:54:36
Curt
um So anyways, I'll see if I can find it.
00:54:37
jamie peacock
Hmm.
00:54:39
jamie peacock
See if you can find it, because I can't, while Googling on the podcast.
00:54:39
Curt
um Okay, I'll find it. I'll put it in the show notes.
00:54:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, we'll find it between between shows, and then we'll throw in the show notes.
00:54:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:46
jamie peacock
um
00:54:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:47
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's ah all the topics for this week, but we have a question. suit.
00:54:53
Curt
Ooh, okay.
00:54:54
jamie peacock
Okay. So while I was moniker slash trumping out my LK, I posted a story. was like, if anyone's got any questions, hit me up. And Stabo Engineering sent through question.
00:55:06
Curt
OK.
00:55:06
jamie peacock
Um... Asking, am I still planning on a bigger workshop?
Workshop Expansion Plans
00:55:10
jamie peacock
Yes, I am. um And if so, how many square meters, how high estimated cost and timeline?
00:55:17
jamie peacock
So it'll be, so well, it's going to be as big as I can make it. It was going to be 60-ish square meters. But then we have a building line on the front that has to be observed. It's two meters back from the wall, which kind of screwed that plan up. So now it became a square building.
00:55:32
jamie peacock
which I think ended up being a little bit bigger. i need to actually chat to my architect friend because he drew it up for me and he gave me an estimated price to build it with Facebook as my rest of my house is.
00:55:45
jamie peacock
Although this was like a year ago.
00:55:45
Curt
m
00:55:46
jamie peacock
$30,000 build it? Yeah. thirty thousand dollars to build it
00:55:52
Curt
OK. thats That's nothing.
00:55:53
jamie peacock
yeah
00:55:54
jamie peacock
it's Yeah, it's not that expensive. um Probably closer to $40,000 because some smart dick's going to put down like 12 inches of concrete, so he never, ever has to worry about it.
00:55:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:06
jamie peacock
Because we've got a lot of backfill.
00:56:06
Curt
ah Right. Yeah.
00:56:07
jamie peacock
The reason being, we've lot of backfill because my yard is tapered. So we're going to make the workshop about a foot higher than the road with a nice gentle driveway through a nice big roll-up door with my pocket my parking for my forklift.
00:56:13
Curt
Sure.
00:56:19
Curt
OK.
00:56:24
jamie peacock
um
00:56:25
Curt
OK.
00:56:25
jamie peacock
And then like 12-inch slab that I don't have to fucking stress about. It's sinking, cracking, fuck all. One solid slab.
00:56:30
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:56:31
jamie peacock
And then it'll be a block wall at the back that no one will see because it's better in sound insulating for the neighbor. And then Facebook around the rest of the the building.
00:56:42
jamie peacock
And it'll be quite fancy.
00:56:42
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:56:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm not going to go super hard. Going to make sure the door's like a reasonable heart. um I don't actually know how, like probably 2.6 meters roll up door. So just a little bit, little bit longer, but doesn't look out of place in a residential area.
00:56:57
jamie peacock
And that way can get machines through easily.
00:56:57
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:57:00
jamie peacock
um Yeah, and then timeline on that would probably be when I have enough money. But building wise is probably going to be like four months or so.
Current Shop & Automation Plans
00:57:09
jamie peacock
Realistically.
00:57:11
Curt
Oh, to build it, it's going to be four months.
00:57:11
jamie peacock
To build, yeah, to actually build, yeah. From when we break ground.
00:57:14
Curt
Okay. I thought you said you're starting to build in four months. I like, holy Christ.
00:57:17
jamie peacock
Well, depends how many anchor points are sold.
00:57:17
Curt
That's that's soon. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, yeah.
00:57:22
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, there's a bunch of projects on the go that if they start kicking in, we're going to have some serious capacity issues.
00:57:31
Curt
Fair.
00:57:31
jamie peacock
So then it's going to be late nights, which will lead to new workshop and new machine.
00:57:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:38
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
00:57:38
Curt
Cool.
00:57:39
Curt
Cool, man.
00:57:39
jamie peacock
So, yeah, that I think that that covers it. I don't want to go super high because it's residential area. um
00:57:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:46
jamie peacock
I don't really need a mezzanine or anything, so I was just going to go high enough that it's not a problem. And then my current shop will stay as the Anno and Dirty shop. So anodizing on one side, grinding, tumbling.
00:57:57
jamie peacock
all that shit on the other side, and then lean very heavily into automation in the in the machine shop so I can leave stuff to run and come this side and work on grinding and finishing and whatever else.
00:58:09
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:58:11
Curt
That makes sense.
00:58:11
jamie peacock
Because automation's where it is. People suck.
00:58:15
Curt
Dude, I'm on that camp. Yeah. yeah I'm with that.
00:58:17
jamie peacock
Yes.
Personal Interests & Upgrades
00:58:19
jamie peacock
People are, I wouldn't say the worst, but people do suck.
00:58:19
Curt
yeah
00:58:22
jamie peacock
So what is in your Google box, Kurt?
00:58:25
Curt
Google box is full of all kinds of fun. So lots of stuff on the Raspberry Pi, Pi 5, Coral accelerators, ah some video lights, and just looking at soft boxes, like humongous soft boxes, like 48 inch giant parabolics just for getting nice light.
00:58:44
Curt
So I have like this light, like this is morning light shining on me. and I want to be able to replicate this at like two in the morning.
00:58:47
jamie peacock
yeah fair enough there's an easy way to do that you just wait like six seven hours and then you get nice morning light yeah take a nap and then the lights rot
00:58:51
Curt
So that, um
00:58:57
Curt
Yeah, it's it's way it's way cheaper, yeah. um Yeah, the problem is when the light is right, I also have little people that are awake too. So at two in the morning, everyone's asleep and I can do whatever I want.
00:59:11
Curt
um On the Business of Machining podcast, ah john was Mr. Grimsmo was talking about a Trond power um adapters.
00:59:21
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:59:21
Curt
T R O N D. Yeah. So I Googled them. They're super cool looking. So I want to buy a gang of them because I'm always short of stupid. I have a million outlets, but I always have more plugs than outlets kind of probably most people.
00:59:33
Curt
Um, so anyways, yeah, they're, they're,
00:59:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, I thought I was smart putting in 17 plugs in ma in my workshop. It was not enough.
00:59:43
Curt
yeah, I like, yeah. um Anyways, ooh, CT5 Neo Sling, which is like ah just a kind of little canvas pack. But I want to make i have like an EDC, like not quite a bug out bag, but just like my daily carry of like tools and first aid shit and just all kinds of stuff in there that has saved my bacon multiple times and I want to I want to upgrade it a bit so I came across this one on like Instagram someone called it like the dad pack and they showed like all the things that he has in there and i'm like I want to upgrade mine a little bit to make it more just because I'm always at someone's house and they're like oh this is broken I'm like I have the tools for it and like I just want to
01:00:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Canadian Silver Dollar Discussion
01:00:21
Curt
keep adding on that because it just makes me happy. um So anyways, I looked at that pack. its kind of kind of cool. And then ah lastly, 1967 Centennial coin. I have a coin that I scanned. actually did a short video, which I'm going upload probably the next few days here for that laser scanner.
01:00:35
Curt
um But I always play with it and it's a silver dollar, a Canadian silver dollar. And I'm like, how much is this thing worth? I'm like, is this like a really expensive coin that I just use as a fidget thing? But it's not. It's like 80 bucks or something like that.
01:00:46
Curt
So yeah, big chunk of silver. So anyways, that's it.
01:00:49
jamie peacock
Nice.
Tech & Gadget Interests
01:00:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, silver's going to the moon at the moment.
01:00:51
Curt
How about you? What's in your Google box?
01:00:53
jamie peacock
um
01:00:53
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:54
jamie peacock
Asus routers, because they do not use 192.168.1.1 to log into them. They use a retarded one. Asusrouter.com or something.
01:01:07
jamie peacock
or router.asus.com yeah it's fucking annoying uh really nice routers but that sucks so i was trying to figure that out this morning to just see what was going on my routers um had to buy a replacement master cylinder for my freelander too because uh the clutch fucked up or the master cylinder fucked up last week right before danica starts needing to use it to go to work so that's on order it'll be later this week uh apparently i searched the rand dollar rate three times
01:01:08
Curt
Oh, gross.
01:01:26
Curt
Oh,
01:01:34
jamie peacock
in my tabs, because it, yeah, the dollar fell through its ass and seems to have recovered a little bit. Was looking at the meta Ray-Bans because I want them for making VJOs. And then was looking up millimeters to PS, to square millimeters to square inches to do some PSI conversions for some shenanigans that I have planned.
01:01:44
Curt
yeah, those are sick.
01:01:55
Curt
Okay, saw the millimeters to PSI. I'm like, ooh, that's an interesting unit change, but okay, that makes more sense.
01:02:01
jamie peacock
so square Yeah, So, calculating square inches so I can easily go to PSI and then to kilograms of force because, let's be realistic, is stupid number or stupid format.
01:02:12
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:13
jamie peacock
Very stupid.
01:02:13
Curt
Yeah. Lots of Imperial is,
01:02:15
jamie peacock
So, where can people find you at, Kurt?
Platforms & Product Sharing
01:02:20
Curt
You can find my wares at confoundedmachine.com. And if you're listening to this, very likely this week, I'm sending out lottery passwords for this next batch of pens because they're all ready to go. um so yeah, all the information's on there on the media page.
01:02:30
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:02:33
Curt
It links to Jamie's store where you can buy shirts and it links to the podcast and it links to the Patreon and it links to everywhere. confoundedmachine.com.
01:02:40
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:02:41
Curt
How about you, Master Jamie?
01:02:43
jamie peacock
So you can find me at jspec underscore engineering on Instagram. You can find the channel that this is on now at jspec underscore engineering on YouTube because I renamed my YouTube channel this week.
01:02:55
jamie peacock
So it's now JSpec Engineering.
01:02:55
Curt
Nice.
01:02:57
jamie peacock
You can find my website where you can find the Anchor Point, the Fluck, and the shirts. It's jspeceng.com. And there is a Mechanical Anchor Point pre-order. If you do pre-order one, you will be the first to be emailed when they are available in the next probably 10 days or so instead of 12. Because as soon as I've got bodies ready, I'm going to start. The people who've pre-ordered get top like they get notified first and get dibs. So...
01:03:24
jamie peacock
yeah be ready for those um and then yeah framerock utility knives on there as well sold one of those over the weekend was chatting to my mates who shipped them for me from the uk today and getting that shipped out so yeah that's where you can find and then the podcast at theloadmachinists.com
01:03:24
Curt
Hmm.
01:03:24
Curt
Hmm.
01:03:36
Curt
Nice. Cool.
Daily Plans & Tasks
01:03:42
jamie peacock
what are you up to today kurt
01:03:45
Curt
ah Today i am going to finish boxing up some pens, have some orders to send out and yeah, that's about all the fun.
01:03:56
Curt
That's probably going to consume a large portion of the day. Just cleaning. Actually I have to do some anodizing, some more fancy pants, anodizing on the ice grip pens that I have and photos, listing, boring, boring stuff.
01:04:09
jamie peacock
Admin.
01:04:10
Curt
Yeah, I mean, yeah, admin, pack up, cleaning, all that jazz. So it takes a lion's share of my time.
01:04:13
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:04:15
Curt
But yeah, and then we can get back to the the fun work of machining.
01:04:18
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:04:18
Curt
So how about you? Other than sleeping, what's your what's your tomorrow plan?
01:04:22
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, tomorrow I've got a machine 200 inserts for the banks, for the desks. Got an order for that today.
01:04:29
Curt
Hmm.
01:04:29
jamie peacock
And I'm like, ah I've got material. Send me more when you pick this order up that where i can have on the shelf that when you need, I can, as soon as I get a gap, throw it in the machine. So that wasn't what was meant to run, but it runs unattended for like 10 minutes of cycle.
01:04:42
Curt
Hmm.
01:04:43
jamie peacock
So let me just let it run for the next, like for a day. And then it's done. So that's tomorrow's plan. And while that run's going to be playing on the lathe, and probably playing on the other lathe. um Yeah, got a band bunch of bunch of stuff to do busy you working on mechanical anchor point stuff as well.
01:05:00
jamie peacock
Trying to get those all through all the pad material arrived today. Finally, think i ordered it nearly a week ago. it arrived. So I want to get the stuff that needs to be on the lathe done quickly so that I can put the chuck back on it and machine those so I get them off to heat treats. But the first couple mechanicals going out, already have heat treated pads on hand because that is the single component that is across both anchor points.
01:05:25
Curt
Okay.
01:05:26
jamie peacock
It's the only shared component. So I've got, like I ordered material for a whole bunch more.
01:05:29
Curt
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01:05:31
jamie peacock
I'm going run a bunch more. Worst case, they get used where they get used.
01:05:36
Curt
Right, we're right, right.
01:05:36
jamie peacock
It's going to be inventoryed as a po as a part number, not as part of an assembly.
01:05:43
Curt
Right, right, right, right.
01:05:43
jamie peacock
Whereas like the bodies and the butt plugs and things like that, those are made. so if I'm doing a batch of 20, I'll make 20. Whereas those pads, they're a bit of a different kettle of fish.
01:05:55
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:56
Curt
Cool. go Cool, cool.
01:05:57
jamie peacock
Cool beans. Yeah. Thank you, everybody, for listening. If you've been listening on Spotify, you probably saw our faces, but there's video available, allegedly, as well as on YouTube.
01:06:08
jamie peacock
And if you're Zencast, apparently there's a video there too. AJ told me. But yeah, thank you everybody for listening and we'll see you next week.
01:06:18
Curt
Take care, all.