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The Lone Machinists Ep. 68: Print It, Stick It, Break It, Fix It

The Lone Machinists
The Lone Machinists

646 plays · Apr 15, 2026

This week on The Lone Machinist Podcast, Curt and Jamie set out to talk about machining… and instead accidentally reinvent software development, question modern civilization, and nearly bankrupt themselves with printers. Highlights include: • Curt buying a printer “just for one thing” like every responsible adult ever • Jamie discovering his fourth axis is not a tool, but a supernatural entity • Both of them vibe coding apps they barely understand and definitely shouldn’t be trusted with • A deep dive into sticker production that somehow becomes a full-blown identity crisis Somewhere along the way: • Lasers start doing things that feel illegal • French designers approve of Jamie’s “pretty parts” (engineering has entered its fashion era) • Curt realizes tax season means he technically earns money but spiritually does not By the end of the episode, we’ve concluded: The future is incredible, nothing is stable, and we are absolutely not qualified to be this productive. Press play if you enjoy: Machining, chaos, questionable life choices, and two guys speedrunning the collapse of traditional skillsets using nothing but caffeine and blind confidence. Warning: This episode may cause sudden urges to buy a printer, build an app, and completely ignore best practices. Links Discussed: * Justin Gray Labs: https://justingraylabs.com/ The Lone Machinist: * Website: https://thelonemachinists.com/ * Bonus Content: https://thelonemachinists.com/#bonus-content * Merch: https://www.jspeceng.com/online-store * Patreon: https://patreon.com/TheLoneMachinists Need Work Done? Check out Subtract Manufacturing at: https://subtractmanufacturing.com/ Want to try out Toolpath [https://toolpath.com/]? Give it a go and get 10% off by using the code TLM10 at checkout: https://toolpath.com/ Jamie: * http://instagram.com/jspec_engineering * https://www.jspeceng.com/ * https://www.noughticalwh.com/ Curt: * https://www.instagram.com/confoundedmachine/ * https://www.confoundedmachine.com/

Transcript

jamie peacock: Welcome to the Loaded Machinist, where it's just you, the machines and the work. What have you got going on today, Kurt?

Curt: This week I'm going to talk about printing with ink, printing with lasers, and the whole introducing my wife to the after I pay my scientists meme because it's that time of year for us.

Curt: but How about you, Master Jamie?

jamie peacock: Nice. um yeah we're gonna talk about our fourth axis is on magic um turns out I was calling my potential new machine by the wrong name and uh how we as generally as humans have lost the ability to manufacture things which is quite interesting because Danik and I have been discussing that so it looks like both of our wives are featuring in the podcast this week how are you this uh this fine evening good

Curt: Ooh.

Curt: Oh, lucky.

Curt: Good, good. I, um, yeah, put my head down on, it's it's later in the evening for me, so I laid down for a minute and then fell asleep and then woke up, and so now I'm kind of like in the weird half-awake, half-dream state of, yeah, but this is this is good, that's how I normally live, so.

jamie peacock: Yeah, well, yeah, i literally woke up like an hour ago because it's ungodly early here.

Curt: But, yeah, how are you doing?

Curt: It's so weird being on the opposite side.

jamie peacock: like this As the podcast goes on, it will get lighter behind me because the sun is now rising. But yeah, carrying on. We ended up going to my cousin yesterday for a birthday, so lost afternoon's production.

jamie peacock: going to quickly do some stuff this morning, then we've got another family thing today. So yeah, I'm busy trying to finish the Dutchman squeeze box gluing jig.

Curt: thing is massive.

jamie peacock: So yeah, new.

Curt: I saw some pictures of it. it's like I thought it was like a little handheld size. It's like a huge like cutting board size thing.

jamie peacock: It's 420 by 220, think.

Curt: Yeah, it's enormous and thick.

jamie peacock: it's yeah it's big

Curt: Like, it's a chunk of aluminum.

jamie peacock: Yeah, 25 mil. The reason it's so deep is because I needed to embed the ejectors. So basically, it's got these things with pins on them that sit below the surface. You glue the thing the thing up, do the milling, and then you put a knob in the middle and tighten it, and pulls the ejector up and then ejects it off of the support.

Curt: Oh, okay.

jamie peacock: Yeah, so those are a very tight fit right now.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: I'm going to have to mess around with them a little bit. I left a comma one clearance, but I think the aluminium plate bowed when I machined it. So I'm going to machine the backside off and see if hopefully they come out straight because I just i ordered the wrong size material.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: I needed like 170 millimeter square and I ended up ordering a 210 square for some reason.

Curt: okay

jamie peacock: So it the work holding wasn't great. Let's put it that way. So now I'm going to bolt it down to a fixture, which I need to make this morning. I'm just going put a block of aluminum in the vase, poke some holes, and then I've got four components that all use the same hole pattern to locate. So then I can bolt it down with two bolts, counterball the other holes, swap bolts, counterball these holes, and then bolt it down and deck the backs off of these pots.

jamie peacock: It was just the laziest way I could come up with doing it.

Curt: Hmm.

Curt: Fair.

jamie peacock: So, yeah

Curt: Yeah, cool.

jamie peacock: The goal is to get that done. But I mean, the ejectors, I'll probably post a picture of the ejector later today. That took all of like 12 minutes to machine. It's so i like aluminum. It's fun.

Curt: Oh, that big pocket? Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: The big the whole the whole big plate took just on an hour to machine because it's ah like a shitload of threaded holes and I was thread milling them.

Curt: that's that

jamie peacock: The thread milling was 20 minutes on its own.

Curt: ah Okay.

jamie peacock: But like the rest of it didn't take long.

Curt: Wow.

jamie peacock: Like the cavities were machined out in like four five minutes.

Curt: That's a lot. That's a lot of material removal.

jamie peacock: yeah But again, I've got the freaking the slot maker magic in mill in a hydraulic and I just go full send. I've got that super dialed 90% spindle load the whole time and just making dust.

Curt: Right. Yeah.

Curt: isn Nice. That's awesome.

jamie peacock: Yeah, it's a i've got that workflow pretty fucking dialed.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: So, but yeah, so what?

Curt: All right. Let's see.

jamie peacock: ah hu you ask Let's talk about printing with ink because those stickers look pretty cool.

Curt: Hey, thanks, dude. um So yeah, I i was rocking.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: i had a giant like blueprint printer the longest time. I talked about it. blew up. I gave it away to someone. on It's amazing what you can give away on Marketplace if you just put it for free. I didn't want to go to the eco center. So my wife's like, let's list it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I'm like, it is broken. It doesn't work. You can't fix it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: She's like, let's try it. And of course, someone came and picked it up. um

jamie peacock: Nice.

Curt: Anyways, um and then i was like, I'm not buying a printer. i don't need a printer. Then I needed to go to the bank and I needed to print something. and I didn't want to look like a loser. So i was like, oh, let's buy a printer. So I bought ah bought one of those like Epson EcoTanks, which are so cool.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Dude! They're so cheap. I was at the I was at our local well, it it is a fucking Walmart.

Curt: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: It's owned by the Walmart group now. ah Macro like a big box store.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: And when I bought my ink tank, it was hang on imperialized time.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: um It wasn't the cheapest printer by any fucking measure. It like a $300 printer. They are now $150. They're literally half the price of what they were four years ago.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Oh yeah. I, I think I paid, I paid two, two 30 Canadian or something for it. So yeah, not the, not the cheapest printer, but for like a good color printer.

jamie peacock: Yeah, they're like super cheap now. No.

Curt: Um, yeah, I was super. And like you get bottles of ink, like, and you can buy their, their, their Epson ink and it's like whatever, i don't know, a hundred and something bucks to fill it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Or like the off brand is like 20 bucks and like, yeah.

jamie peacock: Danica, yeah, she printed books on that printer.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: She literally printed and bound books because the ink costs next to nothing.

Curt: Oh, why wouldn't you? Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, I think her er one's a little bit sharp now because she doesn't use it enough. So the ink dries in the lines.

Curt: Sure.

jamie peacock: But yeah, I thought they were more expensive than they were.

Curt: Yeah, and like 7,000 pages of color or something. Like, gone are the stupid days of like, yeah, crazy priced ink.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Well, unless you buy an HP. Then when you put a non-genuine cartridge in, your scan quality goes down. Fucking winning.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, yeah, I fucking hate HP with a passion.

Curt: But yeah, anyways, so I picked that up and then because was going to order, I was working on the graphics for my labels, redoing my labels.

jamie peacock: Okay.

Curt: And i was like, oh, I should send these out.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I'm like, wait, I'm like, I'm just going to try printing them. And i'm like, I'll even get smarter. And I'm like, I'll see if labels exist in the sizes I want. They do, of course. Why didn't I think about this?

jamie peacock: Yes.

Curt: I did this like when I started this whole racket, I did this and then I was annoyed because it was annoying to load the things in, but I was using a different printer.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So I tried it on this one's way easier, way better. And yeah, it just, it works so nice. so I'm like, okay, I'll run this for a bit and then I'll change it.

jamie peacock: So we've got a we've got a label brand here. each other and ah Tower is the brand. They don't have their own software.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: So they're like, Oh, use this software, some other brands, fucking templates, like some American band.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Trust me to buy the one size sticker that there's no template for.

Curt: Oh no. Okay.

jamie peacock: Yeah, I've done that twice where I've bought the the one like the the size that they make that there is no actual template for.

Curt: see yeah

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: So now when you go you open their little app and you see what templates exist from the other guys and then go from there. But yeah, printing stickers like that's yeah ah really and your stickers look really cool.

Curt: Yeah, that's.

Curt: Thanks dude. Yeah. And like, it wasn't like, I don't need them to be crazy. They're there for packaging. So I don't like, I will get them professionally printed just because it is still cheaper to get like a roll printed from a company and then you get better quality and they're about the same price.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Once you factor in, you know, your time, the labels, ink, all that shit.

jamie peacock: Because that, yeah, that's my only thing.

Curt: So, um,

jamie peacock: Like, if you print on the sticker paper, it looks like it's printed on paper. It's not nice and glossy.

Curt: It does, yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, that's the only thing.

Curt: And the thing is, for these yeah for these stickers, I actually need to build able to write on them, so I want them to be paper.

jamie peacock: Okay, yeah, perfect.

Curt: like Even if I get them professionally printed, they're going to be on paper just because I need to write on them. um But it's still like, it' just I don't know.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: It's fun. It's cool.

jamie peacock: Yeah, Danik is working on stickers for IMTS and for me.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: We're going to get probably two or three A1 sheets done, so I'm going to get it to do a whole bunch of anchor point stuff so when I'm closing boxes, I can use stickers to seal the boxes.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

jamie peacock: It'll make ah make a big difference.

Curt: Exactly.

Curt: Yep.

jamie peacock: so yeah Okay, interesting.

Curt: Yep. But yeah, I was just impressed with the the quality. Like they yeah like i said, they're not they're not professional quality, but for my use is what I'm using them for. yeah it'll they'll more than suffice.

Curt: So it's been been a lot of fun. And then I get to geek out. And then I don't feel like tied to a design because I can like print like, I don't know, print 50 of them and be like, I don't quite like this.

jamie peacock: Exactly.

Curt: And I can alter it instead of being like, okay, well, I bought a thousand of these stickers and I have to sit with it It's just like...

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: In this stage, I like to iterate, so yeah.

jamie peacock: Oh, yes. Speaking of printers, I opened the scanning bed on the little Epson ink tank printer.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: And I'm like, Oh, that's interesting.

Curt: OK.

jamie peacock: They the way so old scan is used to step emotes to drive the scan head back and forth.

Curt: OK, yeah, yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: yeah no not the new ones tiny dc motor geared like with a worm to a two-stage reduction and then it's obviously got an optical encoder somewhere like ah an encoder strip and i was like interesting like gone are the days of using a giant motor when you can use a tiny one that spins at a million rpm and then just gear it down it's all you know

Curt: No?

Curt: Oh. Cool.

Curt: Interesting. didn't know that. I thought it was a stepper. Yeah.

jamie peacock: No, always interesting to see how they they solve these problems in more and more cost-effective ways. Because, I mean, back in the day, you would go and find an old printer, strip it, because you'd get like three or four stepper motors out of it.

jamie peacock: Now it's all just DC motors with encoders on them.

Curt: Totally. I mean,

jamie peacock: Or encoders on the output shaft, so you don't have to deal with the backlash.

Curt: it makes sense. Yeah.

jamie peacock: like It's really clever the way they've gone about it.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Just like as processing has become cheaper, you can process those encoder ticks.

Curt: Yeah. one there's And then if they get like, they'll never like, if they jam, like if the head jams up, it still can compensate.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Like it just like our machines, right? makes way more sense to use encoder based.

jamie peacock: Yeah. It closes the loop.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah. It's like glass scales, but not.

jamie peacock: Yeah. Yeah, it's plastic scales. But yeah, really, really interesting to see how they how they solve those problems.

Curt: Cool. Well, I'm going pick through your topics now.

jamie peacock: So which one would you... Yeah, let's power through some of these.

Curt: um tell me about ah Tell me about your vibe coding.

jamie peacock: So I'm vibe coding some apps. Yeah. They will come up in discussion in the coming weeks. But because I've been vibe coding things, I had a chat to everyone's favorite instant machinist, Mr. Gray.

jamie peacock: So Justin and I had a chat last night, and he's been vibe coding too. vibe coded a really cool Swiss tool. So when you are programming a Swiss, you've got the two or three or four channels of code with weight codes.

jamie peacock: And he looks at these like this fucking stupid trying to sync everything up and figure out what's going on. So he made a little web based app. You drop in your G code files and then it synchronizes them all up. So when there's a wait code, it spaces the code appropriately so that it's all in sequence.

jamie peacock: Really fucking cool.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: um So yeah, he's he's been vibe coding bit, but he has got a really cool vibe code starter kit that you basically, it's for sale on a site.

Curt: Nice.

jamie peacock: You then get the files, you upload them to Claude and Claude passes them through. It adds a bunch of skills to Claude and sets up best practices for building software because when you're vibe coding...

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: uh your software can get kind of well the back end here kind of fucking stupid so this goes and checks for redundant code or comments on our code refactors your code does a whole bunch of like builds and testing stuff to make sure when you make a change it's still everything still works so like just adding software best practices into it because obviously justin knows a thing or two about software um So yeah, really cool, really cool bit of, bit of softball, bit of add on for Claude to make it a lot more reliable when posting out, especially on bigger, more complicated projects like building an ERP or something to that effect.

jamie peacock: which may come down the pipeline at some point.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: um But yeah, I ended up using Claude running out of credits on day one, had a functional piece, functional, effectively single page website with a whole bunch of fancy functions built in.

jamie peacock: And then on day two, I ran out of credits in about 20 minutes. So I was like, okay, fuck it, let me pay for it. So I bought the pro plan. I ran out of credits yesterday because i had it generating images for documentation.

jamie peacock: And Justin's like, oh, no, don't do that.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: Have it generate a Python script to generate the images and then execute the Python script yourself. And it's way less intensive. um I also want to put it into caveman mode because it'll be cool to say me fix thing instead of long fucking sentences.

jamie peacock: Because there was a guy, yeah, i don't know if you've seen that where guy really saving 75%, uses 75% tokens.

Curt: Sure, yeah.

jamie peacock: like putting it into caveman mode where it responds with me fix thing instead of I have fixed this problem.

Curt: No.

jamie peacock: It's like me fix thing, like minimum, like as short answers as it'll give, like really, really cool.

Curt: the

jamie peacock: um

Curt: That's awesome.

jamie peacock: So yeah, I want to, I want mess up. Yeah. don't know. I feel like everyone's jumping on the clawed bandwagon and I've been avoiding it because I feel like everybody's jumped on it, but holy cow, is it powerful?

Curt: Yeah, 100%. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah. Yeah. Like I've made it, like i asked it to generate this page that I can host it on get pages and fucking done. Single page website that generates what I needed to generate.

Curt: Have ever seen that like graphic where they show like the technology and like infrastructure of the world and it's all built up of like little blocks and like the bottom block is like, like everything is pivoting on one block and the blocks is like Linux and then there's like a bunch more blocks and it goes up.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I feel like right now we're at the stage where there's going to be like 750,000 little blocks all precariously balanced and just going to be an arrow pointing to vibe coding. And that's going to be like, this is one little bump and everything falls apart.

jamie peacock: Yeah. So that's, yeah. So that's the thing, like i've I've built that it's not dependent on Claude being available. I've made it as a standalone webpage.

jamie peacock: If the internet goes away, I'll open the webpage in my browser and it still works.

Curt: i

jamie peacock: um

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: I've got it that it's not dependent on anything. But yeah, 100%, like I think there's going to be, a few years time, a hell of a lot of applications that people have built for internal use. um

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: that if FAB coding goes away, you're not going to be able to maintain. That's the thing.

Curt: Well, like I said, like, I think it was who maybe the bomb touched on or something where like, like, yeah, programmers might be losing jobs, but like, so like security, like analysis of like programs, is up those jobs are going to go through the roof in the next like year.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah. And the thing is, For that, you need to be a programmer to be able to understand what's going on. Like, Justin was telling me stuff, I'm like, I'm not a programmer, dude.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, Danica is. She teaches fucking Java and what what? I'm like, Jamie attended, like, Claude, make thing. Fucking, I brute force my way through what needs to happen.

jamie peacock: Like, I have pretty much, and like, I read through the HTML file, and I think it's felt it it looks pretty well organized to me, but I don't know what I'm fucking looking at.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, that is not my area of expertise.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But yeah, like security is going to be a big thing. It was the bomb that touched on that. Because you're now handing this app you've built a lot of information.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: Like a lot of info. So yeah, like i was chatting to Justin about licensing for the software, the little app thing I built. um And i want to release it. I want it to be open source. He recommended not one of the other licenses, not GPL, that if someone takes it and use and modifies it for internal use, not a problem.

Curt: Mm.

jamie peacock: If they want to redistribute, then they have to attribute, which is fine.

Curt: Mm. OK.

jamie peacock: ah It's open, like go, go forth and fucking use it.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: The also thing with it being open. Oh, you want to feature a feature added your fucking self. I'm not going to have to be supporting the thing um all the time because I don't want to be a software support person.

Curt: Totally.

jamie peacock: I will get the basic functionality that I need.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: And then anyone wants to add anything else like go for it.

Curt: I honestly think that's that's the reason a ton of us, like I'd say us as like non-programmer people or people that have minimal amount of background there, go to like making these custom software solutions because it's like, I love this and I hate, hate, hate that it doesn't do this.

jamie peacock: So yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So it's like, fuck it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I'll roll it all myself from scratch. And it's like, yeah.

jamie peacock: And we live in a time where it is easy easier than ever to roll it yourself.

Curt: Yeah, totally.

jamie peacock: Like, yeah, Claude is fucking impressive what it can do. Danica's like, why aren't you using the coding thing?

Curt: Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: I'm like, because I don't know how to code. Like, I'm vibe coding this thing with the chat because that's the interface I choose naturally.

Curt: Yeah,

jamie peacock: Like, I can read a bit of Arduino code and kind of understand what's going on, but start adding switches and class and shit. If it isn't a ladder of if statements, I'm fucked.

Curt: yeah.

jamie peacock: Danica gets so annoyed with me when I've just got nested statements for days.

Curt: Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: And she's like, what the fuck?

Curt: Nothing wrong.

jamie peacock: I'm like, that's how, in my mind, that's simple. I can understand what's happening. You start adding these more complicated functions and that's it. I'm out. I don't, I haven't put the time and effort in to learn how to use those.

Curt: Dude, you could go to the moon with if statements and go-tos. You don't need them do anything fancy.

jamie peacock: 100%. Well, yeah, touching on your, touching on your other thing of everything resting on a little, a little, vibe coding block Danica and I have been chatting with Artemis and all that happening now um why the orbit they chose is the orbit they chose someone someone asked a kid asked a teacher Danica got hold of this TikTok video and the easiest way is to straight there we can't because we don't know how to make a Saturn V anymore

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: And the reason being is the old crusty machinist community ah from a few decades ago didn't want to share anything. And like that's one of the things that has annoyed her the most about one of the situations currently in the instant machinist community is that that's why we can't go to the fucking moon in a straight line is because people are trying hide stuff and keep it to themselves.

jamie peacock: where's yeah sure by all means if it's art all stuff don't share it like there's a time and a place for that but generally the machinist community is pretty open and happy to help each other and yeah like yeah

Curt: Yeah. Yeah. I, that's, that's what I've encountered. And people that chime in, like ask me something, they're like, I don't know if you're willing to share this because it's part of your process. i'm like, if this one little piece of information is going to sink me as a business, I'm already screwed.

Curt: Like I'm going to give it to you because you'll probably, you'll probably do better on it and you'll probably figure something out that I don't know.

jamie peacock: yeah exactly

Curt: And you can share it back to me and we can all get better. Like it always works out.

jamie peacock: all boats rise with the tide yeah and like don yeah i got sense yeah let me add that in there because it's quite funny so i just remembered about a thing that happened this week um yeah so no all boats rise with the tide like you share what you know and hey maybe someone else takes it and does 10 times better than you would have ever done with it and that that's all you can fucking hope for like

Curt: All boats rise at the tide. Dude, hundred percent. Yeah.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: my ano setup, anyone's got questions, they reach out, I'm happy to help us and them a video or answer the questions that I want people to be able to do it in house that they don't have to deal with anodizers because anodizers fucking suck.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: No, look.

Curt: yeah

jamie peacock: So like, if we don't have to deal with them, let's not deal with them.

Curt: Yeah, no doubt.

jamie peacock: So since you're a space nerd and been doing a been doing Artemis things,

Curt: Yes.

jamie peacock: Yes, I saw what you did on your laser picker.

Curt: Oh, yeah. Okay, that was fun. um Obviously, I still have to make content for them.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: um But this one was easy because I wanted to piss with it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So I wanted to see how accurate of, like how decent of an image you could get from like a fiber laser. So just basically removing um either anodexed aluminum, or in this case, it was um sublimated ah paint on aluminum.

Curt: figured out that's the process they used for this. And it's crazy the detail you can get out of these machines now. Like, it blows my mind. Like, even under mag like a mag magnifier, you can see, like, where the laser is turned on and off, and basically it basically dithers the the image.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, this is it.

Curt: And, uh, yeah, so under microscope, it's dots.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Um, but you get like, you can get full of gray scale cause it can take just a little bit of paint off or a little bit more, or a little bit more, or a little bit more.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: And it just like, you get a black and white image that if you look at it with your regular eye, just looks like a piece of film. And yeah, it was wild.

jamie peacock: Yeah,

Curt: So I was having a ton of fun with that. I, there's a short on my channel if you're, people want to see it.

jamie peacock: I saw the...

Curt: Um,

jamie peacock: It's a really cool process.

Curt: Yeah. Dude, thanks. Yeah, it was it was fun. so um and ah Anyways, I'm going to make a few of these little plaques, probably to give them away to people more than anything of just a bunch of space images.

Curt: Because, yeah, it's just been it's been a ton ton of fun to piss around with it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: So I did some tests when I got my laser. I engraved 0.15 hard text, of a millimeter.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

Curt: Nice.

jamie peacock: and you could read it.

Curt: Yeah, but that's crazy.

jamie peacock: It took a bit of setting, like fucking with the settings, because if your power is too high, there's nothing. power too low, there's nothing. Like, it's either melt everything, or it there's nothing.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: And I managed to dial it in that you could read it under the microscope.

Curt: That's it's great.

jamie peacock: Like, it's insane.

Curt: And, and these are a few thousand dollar units, not like $10,000 piece of equipment.

jamie peacock: Yeah, man mine was literally $1,000 at the time.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like it's, it's, it's crazy.

jamie peacock: it's so It's stupid accurate. So I think we may be living in the future.

Curt: And it's, and like how repeatable and, Dude, we are living in the future. hundred percent. Like, yeah, it's, I don't know. So I've been, I've been having a ton of fun with that. Um, I would, like said, I just, I get my brain immediately goes into like, let's make a billion of these things.

Curt: And I'm like, well, what um what am I doing? I'm just going to, I'm going to give them away for the, for the dork of it.

jamie peacock: Yeah, for what? Yeah.

Curt: So I'll probably end up doing a YouTube video. Um, just cause I find it cool. And then that usually ends up paying for itself anyways.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: But yeah. So yeah. Fun.

jamie peacock: Nice.

Curt: Lasers are fricking fun. Yeah.

jamie peacock: they are which one do you want to yeah some of them are pretty short

Curt: I'm to have, But let me see. Let's pick something off yours because you got a lot of shit to go through here. oh

Curt: How about ah channel think I make pretty stuff?

jamie peacock: oh no that's not channel that's chanel as in the french fashion company

Curt: Chanel? Chanel, sorry.

jamie peacock: I got a call on Friday.

Curt: Oh. Oh.

jamie peacock: The diesel guys, they, yeah, no.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: So we we designed an enclosure for a bolt lock tracking system. So on a container, the bolt lock, when you break the tab off, click it in it then activates a tracker that runs for like three or four months, pinging back over cellular with GPS position.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: And I designed the enclosure for them and they were Chanel busy sales pitching them. And they're like, this is a very pretty housing you have here. So apparently I designed pretty fucking parts according to Chanel.

Curt: Nice.

jamie peacock: Which I was like, that's fucking cool.

Curt: Nice.

jamie peacock: Like, yeah, like to get that from ah from a French dude who designs shit or French chick who designs shit.

Curt: That's cool.

jamie peacock: Like, that's kind of fucking cool. Because it is it is a it is a kind of pretty but like enclosure for what it needs to be.

Curt: That's cool.

jamie peacock: like I've got to do they've they've got another one I'm trying to keep the design language the same but not the easiest when they want stupid constraints

Curt: Was it like machined aluminum or?

jamie peacock: no it's an injection molded pot so I just I designed that's what I bought the resin printers for is printing the samples and then that's gone into production they've got injection molds shitting these things out

Curt: Oh, okay.

Curt: Right, right.

jamie peacock: um We're now doing another version that's a cable seal. So, you know, like you shove the cable in and it locks. ah

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: You know, you can buy those cables with a coaxial cable through the middle. And it's so it's. um So you've got a cable through the middle, like ah an electrical wire inside the cable, and then they solder the end. So it's electrically connected. So you can detect if someone cuts it.

jamie peacock: Because it now no longer completes the circuit.

Curt: Oh, I see.

jamie peacock: yeah so they've got one that you when you push the cable through it turns on and then it can detect if the cable's cut as well so i was there for meeting this week to figure out how to locate the gps that it has the best chance of getting signal depending on how they install the the thing yeah so i'm busy with uh

Curt: i see. Okay. Yeah. yeah Cool.

Curt: Oh, cool.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: revised version to make everything fit because they've now changed the PCB so the PCB no longer fits in the slots I made because now there's a read switch on the PCB in one of the spots that I was using to locate it so getting the final version of the PCB to integrate has but been a bit of a challenge but yeah kind of cool no um also ah found out the definition for a bucky

Curt: Nice. Yeah. Huh, wild.

jamie peacock: Because I was telling Danica how Justin's building something with a front load area and he's going to call it a front.

Curt: OK.

jamie peacock: And she's like, that's not why it's called a Bucky. It's not because it's on you put stuff on the back. It's because Bucky is an Afrikaans term for a Tupperware.

Curt: Oh, OK.

jamie peacock: So you put stuff in it. So it's a Bucky because you throw shit in the back of it. That's why it's a Bucky.

Curt: Oh, OK.

jamie peacock: Like the word Bucky is another word for like a Tupperware or container in Afrikaans.

Curt: Oh, wild. Oh, cool.

jamie peacock: Yeah, and that that's where the actual term bucky comes from.

Curt: OK, I didn't know that

jamie peacock: that's You can throw stuff in it. but you can put stuff in it.

Curt: know that. I thought it was just like a slangified version of like buggy. And I've heard people call like trucks buggies.

jamie peacock: New. Yeah.

Curt: But like, oh, OK.

jamie peacock: Like a dune buggy or whatever. Yeah, no, no.

Curt: Sure, sure.

jamie peacock: it's ah It comes from the term bucky, which is Afrikaans for small box or whatever, or box. And yeah, you can put stuff in it.

Curt: Oh.

jamie peacock: So it's a bucky. Yeah.

Curt: Oh, cool. Yeah, makes sense.

jamie peacock: So there yeah Danica enlightened me to that fact this week.

Curt: hu ha Cool.

jamie peacock: so Yeah, she was asking about a front-loading bicycle or some shit, or bicycle for kids in the front or something for a brother. I'm like, yeah, no, don't know where to get one of those.

Curt: Hmm. Cool.

jamie peacock: I was like, just let the kid with the broken arm ride the bike, it'll be fine.

Curt: Yeah, he's got another one.

jamie peacock: What's he going to break his arm?

Curt: He's got one.

jamie peacock: Like, yeah, he's got two.

Curt: One's in a calf. that's pretty It's protected, yeah.

jamie peacock: Dude, you would you would swear that boy's arm wasn't broken. He runs around and carries on, like, uses the cast as a hammer. Like, yeah.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Kids are savage.

jamie peacock: little Little savage. So, fucking yall fun times.

Curt: That's awesome.

jamie peacock: So, um which one do you want to you want to cover?

Curt: All right.

jamie peacock: One more of mine so that we're kind of catching up.

Curt: Hmm. Yeah, i'll probably end up adding to mine because we're talking and I'm remembering things, but let's talk about ah your fourth axis is magic.

jamie peacock: Nice.

jamie peacock: It is true magic. So, I needed to make some little some little pots for Kamesh.

Curt: Why?

jamie peacock: He sent me a model. I'm like, yeah, whatever. It'll take me an hour to make them. This is the price. like i Okay, cool. They wanted two. Can you make one? Again, no worries. Have a closer look at the part and nothing is fucking square.

jamie peacock: So it's like it's a little it's a little part, but it's angled. And then there's a parallel section with square corners. I'm like, fuck. So fourth axis, machined it from the top, rotated 90, machined the square corners, rotated another 90, machined the back of the material off and tabbed effectively.

jamie peacock: And then it had a cross hole. I'm like, fuck, now I'm going to make a fixture to hold this or soft tools. Wait a minute. Put ah another bar on the fourth axis, machined a a hole, rotate 90, put the parts in and fucking do the end machining. Done.

jamie peacock: Because a work with center of rotation on the fourth axis.

Curt: Nice. Nice.

jamie peacock: So if I can, yeah, like, dude, that thing is, a it makes life so easy.

Curt: That's awesome.

jamie peacock: like

Curt: but

jamie peacock: Dude, the fourth, it is literally magic. So yeah, I'm trying to get my workflows around doing more things on the fourth. What I need to make is a Yeah, a work-holding solution that I can hold parts a bit further away, nice and rigid, like in a dovetail tiny vase.

jamie peacock: Yeah, so that I can actually reach, because reach is a bit of a problem. It's quite a big diameter on my fourth, so clearance is terrifying.

Curt: Right. Yeah. yeah

jamie peacock: Yeah, so, yeah. You run the first one, you check nothing's going crash, and then it's fine after that. But, yeah, checking that it's not crash first time is a little bit butt-pinching.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah. I know. i

jamie peacock: Like, yeah.

Curt: I want to play with the fourth for that reason, too. And honestly, that that's what led me down the tiny vice. Actually... That helped fuel it. um And then Titan, Titan rings on Instagram. I'm actually just Titan now.

Curt: Anyways, regardless, he builds all kinds of cool little mechanisms and widgets. um

jamie peacock: Yeah. Yeah.

Curt: And he he had a little tiny vice, like a dovetail vice on his machine, a little Hoss. I think it's a Hoss. Anyways, he's making a really cool little titanium parts. Um, and I, anyways, chat with him on occasion and, uh, so yeah, I think i'm gonna pick up some of those tiny vices.

Curt: Cause like that one, the one element for your whole zero point system is I have to hold this one part by next to nothing and machine all the titanium off it. And i was like, well, it's so easy.

Curt: And I've been trying to avoid material prep. Cause I'm like I don't want to do material prep. I'm like, why don't I build a pallet that could just like you we were talking before this.

jamie peacock: yeah does all the material prep yeah

Curt: It just like holds whatever all the blanks for a month because my parts are tiny. And then i'm like, oh yeah, I guess I could just load that in. The machine doesn't... It's not like the machine... like I have room to put a dovetail in the machine still.

Curt: So it's like, i would literally have to do nothing but put the palette in, hit go, prep all the blanks I would need for the month, and then I'm done.

jamie peacock: and up

Curt: I'm like, and okay, well.

jamie peacock: Are would you put that on a tombstone on your fourth? Then you can do like six or eight at a time.

Curt: I mean, I thought about it.

jamie peacock: Then, dude, the parts aren't long either.

Curt: I just... Yeah, like...

jamie peacock: Like, it's not like it's going you could, you've got your sensor location on the fourth axis.

Curt: No, they're only...

jamie peacock: So you just make it that it pops on and bolts on for that operation. Then you can literally walk away for like a month of Sundays and let it run, run the parts.

Curt: yeah I very well might. like I'm always worried about putting something on the 4th that doesn't have to go on the 4th because you're adding flex to the system. But for the parts I make and the the the tools I use, the tool is going to flex far more than anything that is bolted to the machine.

jamie peacock: Dude. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah. And also, like, you choose the orientation of the part to put the critical features closer to the fourth axis so that there's less flex.

Curt: so

Curt: Exactly, yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, there's lots of tricks you can pull to to get your, like, just from the kinematics of the whole setup to get more rigidity out of it.

Curt: And this is a pocket clip. Like, it's not.

jamie peacock: Exactly. Exactly.

Curt: Every element of it could be off by 5,000. You would never notice. There's one critical area, and that's the footprint where it fits into a ah press fit, essentially.

jamie peacock: yeah yeah

Curt: And everything else is just, like, huge tolerance. Like, if it looks good, it is good. so

jamie peacock: yeah I mean for yeah for the size parts yeah tombstone would be fucking awesome like the thing is then you can you can have an anchor point palette that you prep say eight pieces of material on you load them into an eight position tombstone and then hit go and run away like come to the dark side Kurt

Curt: yeah. A tombstone would be cool. It's not a bad idea. It'd be pretty cute.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah, that is an option. and I really... Yeah, yeah i i like I like these ideas. I like the ideas of going to sleep and machine.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Like, I never would thought about that in the past because I work in titanium and my lathe is oil and leaving that just terrifies me.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: But the mill is pumping coolant everywhere. So if, like, something goes south and I break a tool or just, let's say, let's say I, like, chip well the tool and it just starts smoking and it's, like, it's blasted with water. Like, nothing's going to light on fire.

jamie peacock: Shouldn't be a problem. Yeah.

Curt: So, shouldn't be an issue.

jamie peacock: And then you do a tool break detect and realize, oh, fuck.

Curt: Shouldn't.

jamie peacock: And your yeah your fourth is actually integrated, so you can use um Fusion's patterning to do the the machining.

Curt: totally yeah so

jamie peacock: Like, it's super easy to program, whereas in my case, it's a little bit more of a shit show, but a workable shit show.

Curt: absolutely yeah it works so yeah so anyways i'm just trying to i'm trying to avoid that not trying to avoid that i'm just been

jamie peacock: Okay.

Curt: thinking about different ways to do things like just to, it's just one of those that like any, I just try to note down any part of my process where I'm i'm like not looking forward to doing it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: And like this specific part, doing the pocket clips, it's just just like a few parts. And was like, Oh, that's annoying. I'm like, well, why don't I use my brain and figure it out? Cause it's not like I have to stick to the plan that I've been doing for, you know, the last X amount of months.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So, you

jamie peacock: Just because you've been doing it a certain way doesn't mean you need to keep doing it a certain way.

Curt: Yeah, and I'm not doing it the right way. I'm doing it a dumb way, and it's just, it's it's proven now, so I'm like, let's keep doing it the dumb way because I don't have to think.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: It's like, that's a dumb that's a dumb way to be.

jamie peacock: That's not the brightest solution there.

Curt: So, yeah. No, no, not at all.

jamie peacock: Speaking of not bright solutions, we have Patreons.

Curt: isn susan susan

jamie peacock: I thought I would channel my inner taps and patience there.

Curt: We had Patreons.

jamie peacock: ah Yeah, the Patreons make the wheels on the train go round and round.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, the Patreons get access to the after show and currently all the Patreon stuff is going towards getting us to IMTS and...

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: paying for Zencastr, which is due in eight days, because you can't subscribe for one month. You say one month and then they bill you for a year. um

Curt: Oh yeah, I remember that. Oh.

jamie peacock: Yeah, that was great. So Danica's, i don't know, we might go to Squadcast because we're paying for the script anyway. So we might move from Zencastr, but it's got some other things. So i don't know. We'll see. I'll chat to her this week about it. But anyway, on a more important note, our Patreons make the wheels on the bus go round and round, get access to aftershows. The Project Hail Mary aftershow is now public, by the way.

jamie peacock: on Patreon. So you have to go to Patreon to see it, but it's there for anyone who wants to watch it. um But yeah, special thanks to all of our top tier Patreons who get a shout out every week. And that list is Jade from Benchmark 20, Luke from Fabtastic, AJ from Subtract Manufacturing and 38 other companies, Jason S, EJ from Nocturnal Welding, The Aussie Machinist, Christian Olson, Charles Watt, Kyle from Cursed Machine, Matt from Off-World Gear, Alex B, John from Tourism Performance and Engine Tricks, and Matt from Modern Fuel.

jamie peacock: Thank you the pat to the Patreons. And yeah, we have some stuff to discuss in the after show that is quite entertaining.

Curt: Ooh, yeah.

jamie peacock: Also book related. um So yeah.

Curt: Oh, all right. Half hour.

jamie peacock: Yeah, it's ah it'll be entertaining. got told about a book title that I think is fucking hilarious. So it will be great.

Curt: ah That's awesome.

jamie peacock: But yeah, thank you Patreons. And yeah, enjoy the rest of the show. um

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: So I assume it is tax season there for you.

Curt: Yes, and I have this. I'm sure everyone is aware of this, but if you're not, this is the greatest meme ever. zero zero by the time i pay all my scientists or people of my Anyway, I won't play the whole thing. um It's baby billy i make zero and like

jamie peacock: Yeah. Yeah.

Curt: I went, uh, me and my, well like we I told you, and went to the bank for this like solar stuff that I was looking at as, you know what? I'm going to set up like a home equity line of credit. If I need it, it's there. I can set it up. it You know, it costs a few bucks to set it up, um, for lawyer crap, but then if it's, it's there, you can use it. Um,

Curt: So and just going through like, because my wife's like employed, um you know, with like a regular job. And so she has all her regular papers. So like she submits to the bank, it all makes sense.

Curt: And they're like, you're self-employed. So they have to look at me a lot differently because I can expense things.

jamie peacock: Yeah. Yeah.

Curt: And I, I do expect, like I put a ton of money that I make right back into the shop to make things better at buying, buying equipment or just buying, Whatever I can do to like make things easier, I have the luxury of being able to funnel most of my money just into making this thing go.

Curt: um don't have to take a a paycheck, for instance. So it's just like when I when i present like the gross amount of money that I bring in and then the amount of money that I've like claimed as income, like after expenses and all that stuff, it's just like, I feel exactly like that guy, like, after I pay my scientists and my engineers and everything, that I have nothing.

jamie peacock: yeah

Curt: I have nothing. And and i I do it because I love it.

jamie peacock: but yeah that yeah yeah

Curt: It's just like... it guys Yeah, it's it's a life it's a life hack to own ah a business and especially a business that's run out of your home because you just like the amount of shit you can write off is terrifying.

jamie peacock: oh but yeah that

Curt: like I feel like it's like tax fraud. I'm like, I need an accountant to like, am I good here? And he's like oh yeah, you're good. I'm like, so I feel like I'm going to go to prison for some of this. Is that cool? He's like, no, no, you're good. that's That's fine.

Curt: You can totally write that off. I was like, this is weird. so

jamie peacock: That's why I pay an accountant, so I don't go to jail. But yeah, same thing.

Curt: It's a good thing, yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, myb my rental agreement for the house is for the garage. The rental agreement with my mother-in-law.

Curt: Oh, fair.

jamie peacock: Then nowhere in that in that document does it mention the house.

Curt: Yeah, okay.

jamie peacock: J-Spec Engineering rents the garage, and I live in the house for free because my mother-in-law likes me. But that way, we can write off the entire rent.

Curt: Sure.

jamie peacock: That is the contract we have in place. The fact that i live in the house has fuck all to do with the tax man. Like, yeah.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Got to take advantage of these situations. a

Curt: Yeah, it's like.

jamie peacock: Even now, new machine going of again write off the the sales tax on that instantly. And then it goes into the business as an asset. And we depreciate it over the coming years. like You've got to do these things. You've got to take advantage of the systems that are in place. 100%.

Curt: Yeah, I mean, they're going to take advantage of you on the other end of it, so you may as well take advantage on your end of it.

jamie peacock: hundred percent

Curt: Like, yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, no, that's exactly it.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like you need to make sure you are getting the most back that or the most out that you can that you're giving the government as little money as possible because they don't deserve any of it.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: No.

Curt: Fair.

jamie peacock: wrong

Curt: I mean, yeah. I think the government here because deserves a little bit of it, but I think you're your government gets a little fast and loose over there.

jamie peacock: They use it to buy islands. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Dude, fucking hell. Yeah. Well, so during this week, my wife got rear ended on the way home from work.

Curt: and

Curt: Oh, no.

jamie peacock: So you have to report the accident within 24 hours. So she got home. Her car's still drivable. So we got in her car, went to the police station, the closest one. No, no, it's not our jurisdiction. So internet says I can report this accident at any police station to any police officer.

jamie peacock: No, no, no. It happened there.

Curt: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: You must go to that police station. Okay. So go to the second police station. No, no, it's not our jurisdiction. Go to the third police station. But now from police station two to three took me an hour because of traffic.

jamie peacock: So I'm already fucking annoyed.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: We get to the police station. i'll step into the the pre like police station and all I smell is weed. Like some dude is fucking smoking weed in the police station. What the fuck? Not a problem. It's legal. Yeah, whatever.

jamie peacock: We go there and the Oak's house. Oh, where did it happen? Did it happen this side of the off ramp with that side? Because it's that side, it's not a jurisdiction. I just stood up and I just fucking stormed out. I'm like, not a fuck am I dealing with this? Danica then eventually was like, no, no, it happened at the off ramp. Got them to give her an accident report.

jamie peacock: They were trying to pawn us off to a fourth police station. Because heaven forbid they do their fucking job. Like, they are there to sit in a heated area because the air con in the police station was at 32 degrees Celsius.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: warm.

jamie peacock: And if that's not, they sit in front of a fucking heater all year. It's not cold. I'm running around in a t-shirt and shorts. And they eat fucking KFC. That is all they're there to do is eat KFC and sit in a heater. Like sit in front of a heater. They are fucking calling them useless as a compliment to call our cops useless.

jamie peacock: They are the fucking worst. So I was rather pissed. But anyway, so my Land Rover has a lovely ding in the fucking back and my smart ass brother-in-law. So after the police station was the one by his ass, we went to him for dinner and he goes to look, like, have you opened the boots? I'm like, no. He's like,

jamie peacock: I can't close it. He went and fucking opened it. So then I had to climb in with a ratchet strap to pull the latch up as he kicked it closed to get it to close again.

Curt: Oh no.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: I'm like, fuck it, dude.

Curt: Ugh.

jamie peacock: Why the fuck did you touch it? Like, come on, bro. Like, you don't fuck with shit that's been dinged on a car. But yeah, we managed to get it closed again. But at least the vehicle's drivable, so she can still commute with it. But yeah, we were on the insurance for eight days before she got rear-ended.

jamie peacock: So the insurance is not our biggest fan right now. The excess is fucking, well, the deductible is fucking stupid.

Curt: Right, yeah.

jamie peacock: My love? Yes? There you got catch.

jamie peacock: Can you use a different cup? was going to drop the cup down to Danica, but she says no.

Curt: I said, this is why you go through so many mugs, doing shit like that.

jamie peacock: We have too many mugs, apparently, according to my wife. She is incorrect, but apparently we have too many mugs. So, yeah, I know.

Curt: boy. And...

jamie peacock: the week The week was entertaining. So, yeah, anyway. um

Curt: Well, glad it all worked out, but... oh

jamie peacock: yeah, fucking, we were going to try go through the other guy's insurance. But they're like, oh, can take, when he spoke to his agent, the guy's oh, can take, it it takes a little bit longer, like a week to a month to authorize the claim. No, no, up to three years to authorize the claim via third party on their insurance. Daddy's like, fuck that, I'll pay the fucking excess. They can go after the guy to get my excess access back.

jamie peacock: Because that's how, like, yeah, you you claim, you pay the deductible, and then the insurance goes off to the other guy to get your deductible back for you.

Curt: Holy Christ.

jamie peacock: because it's not your fault.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: So she's like, fuck that.

Curt: Sure.

jamie peacock: And she's got a um a recording of the phone call and the guy's admitting that it's his fault. So in theory, we will get it back. But in practice, I'm not entirely sure.

Curt: Yikes. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, because it's like ah it's like a $600 deductible.

Curt: Good luck.

jamie peacock: It's not exactly fucking cheap.

Curt: Oh yeah. Okay. So that's, that's gotten up there once you, yeah.

jamie peacock: So, yeah. Yeah, because there was a first six-month claim addition to the to the deductible.

Curt: Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: yes because insurance is like wasn't planning on having the car crashed into but yeah on the broad side the the lever on like the the handle on the back was a bit loose now it's not going to be loose once it's repaired yeah fucking can perfect yeah fucking winning but yeah anyway um yeah which one do you want to cover there we've got a couple we can leave one of them out but yeah

Curt: yus sure

Curt: Sure. Yeah. It doesn't, you know. Oh, she's good and tight now. Yeah, perfect. Fixed.

Curt: us ah Tell me about ah your experiences with Grindr.

jamie peacock: So I'm CNCing my grinder and having some issues.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: So it's something Jacob points out to me that the pulsing on the GPI opens on the Raspberry Pi is not always the most stable. I'm having issues.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: It accelerates. And then it like slows down and accelerates. the end It's doing weird shit. And if I try go too fast, it's also an doing weird shit. try accelerate too much, it's doing weird shit. So I need to just look into it a little bit little bit deeper. But yeah, it's not doing what I want.

jamie peacock: It's not like I'm pulsing out a million pulses per second. It's literally 12 pulses per millimeter on the X feed. So we're accelerating over the span of like fucking 100 pulses to full speed.

Curt: Okay. Sure. Hmm.

jamie peacock: It's not like we we're not spinning the motor at 2000 RPM. We're spinning it at like fucking 20 RPM to feed back, to reciprocate. And it's just, a du' the it's not smooth.

Curt: sure

jamie peacock: That's the gist of it. Is it an accelerate up, then it'll do like, wo and then decelerate. And I don't want it to run at super glacial speeds.

Curt: Sure. Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: It's a fucking grinder. It needs to go back and forth at a decent pace.

Curt: sure yeah yeah

jamie peacock: So i was thinking of maybe lying to it today and telling it like run the default settings that they gave and just have the the actual motor running. So till it, the defaults were like 160 steps per millimeter,

jamie peacock: ah twelve millimeters per second squared acceleration. So just go back to the defaults and it's actually running 10 times faster than it it thinks it is. And just see if that gives me smooth motion.

jamie peacock: And if that gives me smooth motion, then it's something else that's retarded. But yeah, I'm using the parallel port hat from bot to bot for this, running off the GPI opens on a PAR5.

jamie peacock: And like the PAR5 should not be struggling to pulse a single stepper motor with...

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: a decent like and not even a lot of pulses like i've dropped the stepper down to 400 pulses per revolution just to get as few pulses needed to get what i want done done because the other axes are not a problem they're not moving fast let's move over and move down that's not going to be fast it's just the x is a fast motion so yeah it's a weird one it's a very weird one

Curt: Yeah, it should be okay. Yeah.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Sure, yeah.

Curt: Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah, because that's not crazy, but weird. Weird. I know. I know.

jamie peacock: Yeah, so I need to just go play with it.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah, pulse generation is one of those weird things where it does make sense to use hardware, but you're not really pushing it for that, so.

jamie peacock: That's it. That was my thought. Like, I'm not pushing. I'm not trying to do circular interpolation or 3D surfacing or anything. This guy's got it running on his router, but looking at his router, his router does not run fast.

Curt: Yeah, that's problem.

jamie peacock: But that, again, shouldn't be an issue with 12 pulses per revolution. Like, we are, 12 pulses per millimeter, we're literally a tenth of the pulse count and trying to go like five times the speed. It's not like it's even 10x the speed.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But it seems like something gets overwhelmed, just like it accelerates, and then it freaks the fuck out and comes back to speed.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: So I don't know if there's just some weird shit with the acceleration profiles or i don't know. I'll go poke at it this morning because I need to actually grind some anchor point pads.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: And I was like, I don't want my grinder trying to jump off the table because my um my previous implementation of the x-axis automation is a little bit jerky. So I wanted to get the CNC side going so I can have acceleration and deceleration.

jamie peacock: And I don't want the Xcel and Dcel to be too slow because then you've got over-travel the part like this so that it doesn't slow down on the part.

Curt: Sure. Yeah.

jamie peacock: And obviously that all just adds to cycle time.

Curt: yeah

jamie peacock: Because the idea is i can, I'll know where the

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: The dressing dinguses after I set it up, I can literally dress the stone, hit cycle start, and I know where the stone is in relation to my pot because those are both fixed items. And I can hit go and it can just grind the pot till it gets to the finished thickness.

jamie peacock: And I just dress the stone before every pot and I know I'm good to go.

Curt: Right.

Curt: Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: Like that, you know, that is my intended plan. And then I can automate, I can literally walk away and just leave it to grind. I don't really care if it takes 15, 20 minutes to grind. I'm not doing it. The robot's doing it.

Curt: Sure. Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: So, but I do i don't want to sit on the pod going, I want to get like a fucking grinder.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: So I was also thinking of maybe moving the X-axis onto a belt drive instead of the rack and pinion that it's currently on. So take the rack out or take the pinion out and then just have a motor sitting on the side. But I do like to be able to set ideas. i'm going have a button to disable the X and...

jamie peacock: I'm going to treat it like a mill. My table is my X and Y. Disable those motors so I can manually jog the machine. Like if i want to touch off or something, I can touch off manually and then enable the x the X and Y motors. The Z will always be enabled for the the thickness.

jamie peacock: But then I can manually grind something if I want and then just jog the Z down so that I don't lose all the function.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: I'm not tied to it being only a CNC machine.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, that would that be nice.

jamie peacock: Yeah. Also, I'm retrofitting a second one. So i kind of need this to work.

Curt: Exactly, no pressure.

jamie peacock: The second one's for a customer.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, the second one's for a customer.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: So I kind of need to say I need it to work. So I'll go poke with it later. See if I can figure out what the what the main issues are. It might.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, don't know. There's definitely backlash for days in the drivetrain because it's a 3D printed gear driving a 3D printed gear that's bolted to the hand wheel. But it's X translation translation on the that doesn't fucking matter.

Curt: Right, yeah.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, it's not precision, yeah.

jamie peacock: So, yeah, I will. Yeah, that's on the agenda for this morning to poke at that while finishing up the Dutchman squeeze box gluing jig before going to a family thing at like 11 o'clock in the morning.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: It's going to be great.

Curt: Fun, sounds like a great time.

jamie peacock: So. Yeah, it is.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: um

Curt: Let me see.

jamie peacock: Speaking of a great time, I'm going on Taps and Patience this week.

Curt: Ooh, cool, fun.

jamie peacock: oh AJ and are going to talk shit for a bit. I actually need to re-listen to the episode on Monday or tomorrow before I go on with him because there's a bunch of issues I have with things he said that I want to bring up about automation and whatnot. So I'm going to... Our podcast comes out before theirs, so ha-ha! It comes out the day before theirs goes public.

jamie peacock: um

Curt: hu

jamie peacock: So I'm going to sit and actually pay attention when I listen to his podcast tomorrow and then take some notes because i want to discuss a few things about robotic automation that they were discussing in the podcast this week.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, I think i'm about midway through that one right now.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So interesting.

jamie peacock: It's yeah, it's pretty good. And then ah at the end of their podcast, AJ says, yeah if you want, ah if you're still listening, put Jacob, Jacob, Jacob in the comments. So I went and put that in the comments and then Jacob put Jamie, Jamie, Jamie. So like, well, fuck now I'm going to be on the episode next week. You've summoned me

Curt: ah Nice.

jamie peacock: So yeah, that should be that should be a fun episode discussing automation and whatnot, because AJ and I were on call the other discussing relay options for his implementation implementation of Mondo.

Curt: Yeah, that's... a It's cool project. I think it's going to be more than the assumes, but it's that's that's how this all works, right?

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Dude, with ah yeah with the current situation, the current situation of Vibcoding, getting that working can't be that fucking hard.

Curt: you'd You'd be foolish to think otherwise.

jamie peacock: It's, it's account.

Curt: my favorite phrase.

jamie peacock: So no, getting it working, getting it working can't be that hard.

Curt: That's my favorite phrase.

Curt: Sure, sure.

jamie peacock: Accounting for the edge cases, different conversation.

Curt: yeah

jamie peacock: Like, yeah, yeah.

Curt: there's the There's the catch. Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: So I actually, in my chat with ah Mr. Gray last night, he said, i need to use my spindle gripper to load anchor points for shit. Just, just even as a demo, just for shits and giggles, I need to do it.

Curt: Yeah, sure.

jamie peacock: So I'm going to be making some pallets for that. I don't know if I'm to integrate the cleat.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: I might just for my own use integrate the cleat into the side of the pallet and then mess around the spindle loading some pallets in and out of my machine. Just more of a demo than anything else.

Curt: Right.

jamie peacock: But yeah, there's some serious shenanigans you can pull like stacking them in your work envelope by stair-stepping them.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: So you grip this one, you slide out and then go up. Next one you slide out, then go up. and Next one you slide out and go up. So you have enough clearance to grip the To grip the one below it.

Curt: Oh, I see what you're, yeah, I see what you're playing.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah, okay, yeah.

jamie peacock: So going to mess around with that a little bit. I've got some blank pallets I can play with. So like they need to be a slightly different geometry on the pallet because you want to have the the locating pin only engage with about two millimeters so that it doesn't get stuck on the pin.

Curt: Right, right, yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, and then I would lift from the round pin side to prevent, to try and mitigate jamming. So I'll mess around that while I wait for my pneumatic vase. Because that has been ordered. It's going to take a little while to get here.

Curt: Oh, cool. Oh, cool.

jamie peacock: Yes, I bought the silver CNC one. um But yeah, it's going to take a few weeks for them to ship it. I didn't expect that, but fucking is what it is.

Curt: did a Did you buy it or did your did your money bags buy it for you?

jamie peacock: Yeah, my wife loves me lots and bought it for me.

Curt: know you're talking about it.

jamie peacock: Because all I didn't think it was going to take a month to get you.

Curt: Oof.

jamie peacock: i thought i was going to have it within like ah a week or two. And yeah, it's going to take like almost a month to get you because they have to manufacture it first, apparently. I mean, sorry, go buy from Warwick and then put SilverCNC on site and then ship it.

Curt: o

jamie peacock: So yeah, so we will we will see when that arrives.

Curt: Sure. Yeah. Yeah. yeah

jamie peacock: I'm quite excited for that. That's going on a pallet that I've designed already that'll drop into the mechanical anchor points on my table. And then the four anchor points get a tray of pots.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: So I can literally swap in and out in a matter of minutes to be running a job at night.

Curt: That's cool.

jamie peacock: That's the plan at least.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Because I think I'm going to move the flux onto that going to make a bunch for IMTS.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: I think I'm going to move it onto auto loading for the op ones and then op 2 will be on a pallet.

Curt: Oh, cool. Cool. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, may as well take advantage of the system like use that as a thing.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: It's a very low, low cost if I fuck it up.

Curt: Sure. Totally. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, like, and it's not a customer-facing part.

Curt: yeah yeah

jamie peacock: It's a, oh, fuck, I scrapped 20 of these. It's not the end of the world. Like, ideally, I want to save none of them.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah. Totally.

jamie peacock: But shit happens.

Curt: That's the goal. Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yes, the goal is always to make no scrap. yeah, kind of a interesting. And then, ah turns out I've been calling the machine by the wrong name. It's not a Zappo, it's a Zoppo, SVT600.

Curt: okay

jamie peacock: It gets put on a ship in two months' time.

Curt: Did you buy it?

jamie peacock: No, WD Hearn bought it.

Curt: Oh.

jamie peacock: And it is coming in as a demo unit.

Curt: Oh, okay.

jamie peacock: It's been somewhat earmarked for me already. um

Curt: Oh, cool. Okay.

jamie peacock: I'm busy pulling levers and strings to make it mine. um It will technically fit in my workshop.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: The best, the best kind of fit, the technical one.

Curt: With you, like, like you you don't have to go on, like, a diet to make it fit or anything.

jamie peacock: No, I just can't walk out the one side of my workshop. um

Curt: Oh, that's not important. Yeah, that's not important.

jamie peacock: Yeah, not at all. So i've got I've got multiple exit plans.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: I've got to rearrange a lot of stuff to make it work. So like my office, the laser comes out my office, the CO2 goes into the house, the fiber will stay in the um we stay in the workshop.

jamie peacock: My office will move to where the anodizing is. The anodizing will move into my office. My lads will get a bit closer together. Like it it can work. It's going to be tight and unpleasant for a little while, but it'll work.

Curt: Cool. cool

jamie peacock: And then I will build a new workshop because yeah that I've got a meeting with the guys this week to go have a discussion about financing and whatnot. Basically, yeah, the idea is to, they are buying the LK from me for more than it's worth.

jamie peacock: I'm buying a new machine. The LK is, what's owed on the LK will get shifted over to the new machine. And if the whole thing shits the bed and we decide, fuck this, i don't want to work with you. They get the LK. They don't get the new machine.

jamie peacock: Because going to shift all my work on all my current work onto the new machine and run their work on the LK.

Curt: Okay. Okay. I see how you're going.

jamie peacock: Because it's going to be a lot harder on the machine.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: So let's fuck up the seven-year-old machine, not the brand new machine.

Curt: Sure. Sure. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Because in all honesty, the LK needs to be out of my shop in the next three years.

Curt: Makes sense.

Curt: Right. Okay.

jamie peacock: Because at that point, it's a 10-year-old machine.

Curt: Yeah. That makes sense.

jamie peacock: It needs to fuck off while I can still afford to replace it. While it's still capable enough to afford to replace it.

Curt: Yeah. And it's not scrap iron.

jamie peacock: So, yeah, exactly.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: I'm very much, I don't want to be in the position where a lot of shops are here, where they were very competitive in the 90s. They didn't upgrade while they had the chance and now they can't compete.

Curt: Totally. Yeah. Yeah, I get that.

jamie peacock: Yeah, so I'm going to go chat to them. I need to put together a rough budget. So how much the machine costs, how much tooling up is going to cost, how much infrastructure changes are going cost. Be like, okay, this is the amount of money you need to give me bitches. And then you basically own me for the next year.

jamie peacock: But yeah, I'm going to push them for an arrangement that it's not a set machine payment. It is 50% of the work they give me that month that goes back to them as machine repayments. That way, if they, because the yeah they they can't guarantee they're going to give me 100,000 rounds worth of work every month.

Curt: That'd be sick. Yeah.

jamie peacock: So if they give me fuck all, then they get fuck all paid back.

Curt: Sure. Yeah.

jamie peacock: um And then obviously, if they give me a shitload of work, then the shitload of work, I'll pay the machine off really quickly and get out from under that. And that's the idea, is to kind of try and fix a bit of a cash flow balance that I have.

Curt: Yeah. yeah

Curt: Yeah. I mean, it works nice for you if they'll if they'll play with it.

jamie peacock: yeah

Curt: I mean, it's beneficial to them, but it is a little bit more to you.

jamie peacock: it's been so it is but they are also like the guy that they're using currently it's just a shit show like he doesn't charge extra for chatter yeah he doesn't charge you extra to not tap holes he sends stuff to heat treat without tapping holes like it's just it's a total fuck show so yeah they're looking desperately to move away from like they did uh one moment let me uh no not that button

Curt: hi yeah

Curt: Totally. Yeah, you were saying that.

Curt: Oh, no. Oh,

jamie peacock: had some zeros yeah they did like twenty thousand dollars worth of work with them in february so like they're sending them a lot of milling work so fucking and worth it like i'll i'll just tool up and get good at machining steel it's not that fucking hard so like i'll tool up the machine so the the svt is a bbt machine

Curt: Okay.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Sure.

jamie peacock: So might switch the spindle in the LK to a BBT spindle as well, if I can get a cartridge that'll fit from LK. It might be worth just spending the money to switch it to a BBT and then put all my roughing tools into BBT holders and my finishing tools into BBTs.

Curt: Sure. Sure.

jamie peacock: All my drills can stay in BTs because there's no side load. um Like that that is my plan, like the new machine, all my drills and stuff and like a lot load tools are going stay in BT holders.

jamie peacock: And then just the like really fancy high and hot pressure tools will be BBT. That way I don't have to spend a million dollars on fucking tools.

Curt: Yeah, that makes sense.

jamie peacock: Because tool holders, off they get spendy quickly.

Curt: yeah

Curt: Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, I need to buy a whole bunch more DC holders.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: I actually want to buy the DC eight or 12s for my six millimeter end mills, just a little bit bigger than the DC 6.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: The DC 6, I feel like the tool holder flexes a little bit too much.

Curt: Yeah, fair.

jamie peacock: Because the neck's down really skinny.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: So, but yeah, ah my go-to six millimeter end mill is in the DC holder. That is my my main finishing tool for blu shallow steps is in that thing.

jamie peacock: You just need to be aware of the flex.

Curt: yeah i i do like them i just wish i had like a like a carbide uh like cutting saw so i couldn't take the i mean you could just score your end mills and break the ends off so that you can fit because you can't they'd only suck in like whatever you know 10 mil or something

jamie peacock: look

jamie peacock: yeah but yeah it sticks and i can only stick it in 22 mils on a dc6 so like i've got 27 mils of stick out on a six millimeter end mill that's not ideal yeah that's only the only drawback

Curt: yeah so you got you know a lot yeah

Curt: Yeah, yeah. But then again, it's on a super spindly thing to begin with. So it's, yeah.

jamie peacock: So I want to go to the 8s or the 12s because then you should get a bit more engagement.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: And the diameters, yeah, sure, it's bigger, but it's not like a fucking ER nut. It's still very compact.

Curt: Yeah. Totally, yeah.

jamie peacock: And the run-out is something stupid. luck They really...

Curt: I do like them for that, and and I like them for, i have a lot of surfacing that do, and I have you do those for my surfacing tools. And then when the coolant is hitting it, you don't you don't like get any mist, because there's not a giant collet nut in the way.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: it's just a nice little like pin, and just like the coolant just flushes past it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: It's lovely. Yeah, it's great for that.

jamie peacock: Yeah, um I'm changing coolants next week, I think.

Curt: Again?

jamie peacock: Well, no, I'm changing coolants.

Curt: oh to the one, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

jamie peacock: To the one I spoke about a week or two ago, yeah. They dropped off the cleaner.

Curt: Sure, yeah,

jamie peacock: I need to run the cleaner through the machine once i've ordered the coolants and then swap out the LK because it's still eating my arm.

Curt: Ew, gross. Yeah. Hmm.

jamie peacock: It's less than ideal, squishy human. um It's actually not too bad right now, but yeah. ah I'm atomizing a lot of coolant as well. Like if I put my hand by the door, my hand gets wet because the coolant, the Bukkake Blaster 7000 hits the nuts atomizes it at the handle level.

Curt: Hmm.

Curt: Okay, yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: So it's coming around the like the little lap seal in my door, which is a little bit annoying to deal with.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: But yeah, fun times. um

Curt: Oh, boy.

jamie peacock: That we can save for next week, last one of mine, once i actually have feedback on it.

Curt: All right, cool.

jamie peacock: Yeah, because I see we coming up on on an hour.

Curt: Oh, exciting.

Curt: Yeah, um I'll touch quickly on this.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: We can jump on your last thing and then we'll head off to the Google boxes. So yeah, i Artemis, amazing. i I don't know if you watch the splashdown and everything.

Curt: I've been following that super close, super cool.

jamie peacock: Yeah, I've been catching clips of us

Curt: ah What I didn't really know is... I mean, I've always gone on the NASA site to like download images. I downloaded some box art images, but I didn't realize a ton of the NASA images, um like almost all of them, are like commercial use, licensed.

jamie peacock: Oh, that's cool.

Curt: You can basically... Like, I think some of them you can even like print and sell as long as you ah attribute where they came from.

jamie peacock: The tributes, yeah.

Curt: Yeah. And a lot of them are just like, if you're not like, if you're using them kind of an indirect sense, it's just like, yeah, go nuts, use them. It's like, it's like public space.

jamie peacock: Well, that's cool.

Curt: Yeah. yeah So I, anyways, I have a bunch of their images on my box art. Cause I just, I like, I like the pictures of it and I like space and I try to tie it into everything I do. um So yeah, if you folks out there are looking for a i don't know cool background,

Curt: art for whatever purpose that's going to be in maybe in the public eye. It's kind of a cool place to go because it's it's cool images and they're basically free to use for you know most cases.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: You got to read the fine print. Some of them are different. But for the most part, anything I've come across, I think they're basically like commercial free use licensing.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So kind of cool. I didn't know that.

jamie peacock: That's cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Curt: And stupid high resolutions. Like they'll to give you the highest resolution that the image was shot at. So you're you're not dealing with a tiny little JPEG. Like you're dealing with some monster images. and If you get like those those lunar images that I was like the mapping images, those are like 20 gigs.

Curt: Like those are crazy images.

jamie peacock: Jeez.

Curt: So yeah, it's been fun to play with those.

jamie peacock: Yeah. Okay.

Curt: But anyway, yeah, that's been my fun.

jamie peacock: Yeah, that's fucking cool. That's cool that they're putting it for use because the more people use it, the more people see cool shit.

Curt: Yeah, it's kind of cool.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Totally. Yeah. And there's like, i was actually watching online because like Uncrustables reached out to like the Artemis crew and said like, you guys will never have to buy Uncrustables again. Like we're gonna give you a lifetime supply.

jamie peacock: Oh, nice.

Curt: And I was like, oh, that's so cool. But I guess astronauts are like barred from accepting any, because that'd be considered like a gift.

jamie peacock: Yes.

Curt: And they're barred from accepting any sort of gift for like a ah period of years, anything like over 50 bucks or something.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So it's kind of like just a wholesome thing to be like,

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I don't know. can't be like You can't come back and then just like make millions off of brand deals, which... i mean, you're astronauts. You should be able to. That's kind of cool, but it's also kind of cool that they're like, no, we just we do it for the love of the game.

Curt: so I don't know.

jamie peacock: So do you watch do you watch the boys, speaking of brand deals?

Curt: I don't know.

jamie peacock: Dude. So you know Idiocracy has become a documentary? Yeah.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: yeah, the boys is doing that too. It's fucking horrid. Like season five has just dropped, the first two episodes.

Curt: ah Okay. Okay.

jamie peacock: Danik and are sitting there like, no, pause. This is too fucking real. This is too real. Like the comments on Current Society.

Curt: sir

jamie peacock: But yeah, they've got like teen, one of the teen superhero groups. The brands, bre the whole outfit is just covered in brands because it's all about brand deals. And I'm like, yeah.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: They look like fucking NASCAR drivers. These superheroes. It is insane.

Curt: It's like...

jamie peacock: But yeah, the boys is a serious comment on society and fucking deranged. Look.

Curt: Nice. was like the old...

jamie peacock: Yeah, I know we're watching.

Curt: all ah say I don't know if you ever watched like Wayne's World back in the day.

jamie peacock: Oh, yeah.

Curt: i love the Wayne's World.

jamie peacock: Yeah. Yes.

Curt: It's like, mmm, refreshing. And it's like Coke and like Doritos.

jamie peacock: Yes.

Curt: and like there One little section of the film, they got like all the branding in.

jamie peacock: Yeah, it's fucking great.

Curt: it like That's the best.

jamie peacock: yeah like Those movies were also serious comments on the on the state of things back then.

Curt: Anyway.

jamie peacock: like But yeah, the boys, terrifying.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like the way that they they're handling stuff.

Curt: Ooh.

jamie peacock: It's like, oh, this looks very familiar. This looks like how the Cheeto does things.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: Like, yeah.

Curt: Oh, eesh.

jamie peacock: Terrifying. Terrifyingly, yeah.

Curt: Creepy.

jamie peacock: Terrifyingly insightful and commenting on humanity. So, but yeah.

Curt: Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: Anyway, um so I'm going to be on Taps and Patience, and I think I might announce a bit of an Anchor Point special there when I'm on there.

Curt: Creepy.

Curt: Ooh.

jamie peacock: Yes, so listen to Taps and Patience this week. um

Curt: Monday, Monday, Monday.

jamie peacock: It's aimed at the people who've... Yeah, well, recording on Monday comes out on Thursday, I think. So it comes out the day after this, if I'm not mistaken.

Curt: Thursday, Thursday, Thursday.

jamie peacock: But yeah, there'll be... ah I'm going to a special for anchor point customers, people who've bought anchor points already. There'll be a bit of a deal there for mechanical anchor points for them.

Curt: Mm.

Curt: Ooh.

jamie peacock: As a perk for buying a original anchor point, there'll be a bit of a discount there if if you want to buy a mechanical as well, because the mechanical is a lot more rigid and has its uses.

Curt: Clever.

jamie peacock: So that actually ties into the anodizing I was doing this week.

Curt: Yeah, i think I've

jamie peacock: Kurt, you would only want to guess the name correctly.

Curt: Did I get it right?

jamie peacock: Yes, well, close.

Curt: Yay!

jamie peacock: They the closest.

Curt: Okay, okay.

jamie peacock: Yes. um So we we did the blind splatter this week, and then we did the cum stain.

Curt: okay she i figured to be classy. I was like, oh, I know what this looks like and I know what Jamie's gonna call it.

jamie peacock: Yes. Exactly. Yep. Danica, when you said it, I was like, Kurtz and I speak to each other too often. You were straight.

Curt: yeah

jamie peacock: You knew exactly where i was going with it. But yeah, that one, yeah, that one I have a plan for.

Curt: I figured I'm like, yeah.

Curt: It looks so good, like that dark gray black with like the white like splotches on it.

jamie peacock: It does.

jamie peacock: The white splotches have got a bit of ah like a red hue to them because I used red paint to to mask it.

Curt: no

jamie peacock: So I think it bled.

Curt: Oh, okay, okay.

jamie peacock: It's actually just got the tiniest pink hue to it. But if you look at it from like anything more than that far away, it looks white or gray.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: So yeah, I did that one after I did EJ's ones.

Curt: Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: But yeah, that process is a little bit it's a little bit finicky. like His two ones are not the same color gray.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, I saw that.

jamie peacock: And they were done like an hour apart. that It's very frustrating, but it is what is. It doesn't really matter. He's happy with them.

Curt: Totally, yeah.

jamie peacock: So it'll be fine. Those are going to be the first ones to be engraved with nautical workholding instead of Jspec Engineering.

Curt: Ooh.

jamie peacock: Yes, which I need to get Danica to make me the logo for because it's got to be curved.

Curt: Ooh.

Curt: Ah, yeah, fair.

jamie peacock: Yeah, and it's not just a straightforward text thing like Jspec Engineering was. So yeah, those ones will be the first ones on that on that list. But yeah, so there'll be there'll be a special, I think I'll email all the people who've purchased.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: I'll try and get a list of emails and then send them all a message saying, hey, if you guys want a mechanical, here's a discount code for you. um Because I know Jacob is like, kind of wants a mechanical because the rigidity on the pneumatics, they're rigid until you start doing dumb shit.

jamie peacock: Like it's not the most rigid thing in the world, but for 90% of small parts, you're fine.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like even not small parts, you're fine.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: I mean, I've done all sorts of stupid shit on single anchor points, but the mechanical is just fucking rigid. Like you've seen the stupid like hangout that I do on my fourth axis with it and I don't have rigidity issues.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: So yeah, it's pretty fucking rigid. So yeah, I want to make a bit of an offer there to those guys that if they want to pick one up, they can pick one up at a ah better rate.

Curt: That's cool. Yeah.

jamie peacock: But so anyway, what is in your Google box?

Curt: Cool. That's nice. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Well, I know what's in your Google box, but tell the people what's in your Google box.

Curt: My Google box is full of all kinds of fun stuff. ah So I came across us.

jamie peacock: Ooh.

Curt: Oh, what?

jamie peacock: I saw your wallpapers and now I want them.

Curt: uh so pnw customs totally not at all anything in close to our industry but this guy makes micro reef tanks i've always been like a big fan of like reef tanks and he makes like and everyone tells you don't do micro tanks if you don't know how to do reef tanks because like everything is everything reacts so much faster but they're just pleasing to i've always wanted to make a reef tank like a tiny reef tank but like a mo a massive like lower tank that would have all the like

jamie peacock: Oh, cool.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, all the filtering and media and stuff.

Curt: filtration and everything. So you're actually like, yeah, so you're like maybe like a 50 gallon tank, but you're only displaying like 10 gallons of it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: um and Besides point, cool sites, check them out. PNW customs or custom on Instagram. It's got really cool stuff. Epson printer. Cause I bought one. ah How far away is Japan? Cause my four year old, one of her friends at daycare keeps telling her that she's going to Japan tomorrow. And I'm like, no, she's not. She's like, she is. I'm like, do you know how far away Japan is? So we worked it out. I told her that she could not possibly make it there and back.

Curt: Basically, no matter what method of transport you use. um So trying to relay that to a little person, how far things are away when they don't understand kilometers or miles or time.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: It's difficult.

jamie peacock: Yeah, they don't have context for it yet, yeah.

Curt: Yeah, I'm just like, you could drive. We could get an airplane right now and leave and you could go to sleep and wake up and you probably still wouldn't be there. So like...

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: But anyways, ah Sony, Sony a7C.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I kind of want a full frame camera and the a7C is a compact one. So i'm thinking about that one. ah Project Hail Mary wallpapers. Cause I have that this actually this lovely little,

Curt: rocky that's sitting in his little uh cube beside me this little habitat uh my wife these don't exist in canada uh so my wife my wife was savage and found somebody on reddit that would ship it to us so we have this like popcorn bucket with a little rocky inside it that someone sent to so anyways in return uh i printed him uh her i don't know who it is um i printed him some like the little uh grace model and i'm gonna laser him some like uh

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: sci-fi paraphernalia on ah just nice things. Send them some ketchup chips, things that they can't get and ah dumb sci-fi stuff.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So I've been looking up wallpapers for cool things to laser and then ah fiber laser on stainless because I'm trying to, I'm playing this photo game now on stainless too.

jamie peacock: Ooh, okay.

Curt: Just, I also want to make, I never use business cards ever, but I also, I want to have like one business card that's just insane so that if like someone's like, oh, what's your site?

jamie peacock: ah okay

Curt: can just give them this like chunk of stainless. They're like, what the fuck is this? Like, yeah.

jamie peacock: So just watch for warping on the stainless if you get it too hot. um I've got black aluminium business cards that are I had one in my wallet that had all my details, VAT number, all that stuff.

jamie peacock: And I ended up giving it to someone. I need to make a bunch more of them.

Curt: Yeah, like no one asks me for business cards nowadays, but it'd still be.

jamie peacock: Because, yeah.

Curt: Like most people want stickers.

jamie peacock: No one asks for fucking business cards.

Curt: um

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: But it'd be pretty cool to give a useful, like if you ever have to, it's like, here, plink.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: It's like, what the shit is this? i mean

jamie peacock: Yeah, he has a useful...

Curt: How about you?

jamie peacock: um So yeah, I was looking up lamb mints because I wanted to make a kebab.

Curt: Yeah. What's...

jamie peacock: I saw a recipe for that. um Danica sent me a link to buying biltong in America. No way in fuck am I ever paying that much for biltong. So we're going to come over with all the sparses.

Curt: Oh, okay.

jamie peacock: And then in the week leading up to IMTS, make biltong. I was looking up the Dubot MG400, which is what Tormach use on their... xstech pro router to load parts um it's looking at a little 500 gram payload cobot and then uh looking up vfd uh integration with maso and maso upgrading from advanced to pro which is a 600 upgrade that lets you use lua scripting

Curt: okay

Curt: Okay, okay. Cool.

jamie peacock: uh that's expensive just use the fucking scanner and scan the thickness of the plywood Um, so yeah, I was at that customer waiting for the spindle. It sat for a week with FedEx while they tried to find a flight to put it on in China.

jamie peacock: Because obviously with all the fuckery going on in the Middle East, shipping stuff has become a fuck up.

Curt: Oh.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: So yeah, a bit of a bit of an annoyance. But yeah, so that I'm trying to get that retrofit done.

Curt: Exciting.

jamie peacock: And then I think I may actually just be done with fucking retrofits.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: because i just thought dude like oh cool it's lots of money no it's not you gotta fucking go deal with people so it might be something i get rid of for most people there's a few customers i'll still tolerate but i think it might be something that i just know sorry can't assist get fucked uh like this customer specifically that i was at yeah i'll help them out again because i don't mind dealing with them like i leave them alone with the machine and they start fucking with settings

Curt: Might not be a bad idea. Yeah.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: which is cool. Like they they're trying to get the most out of the controller, they're not fucking with it and breaking it, they're fucking with it to get the most out of it. So yeah, I don't mind dealing with those kind of customers.

Curt: Right. Yeah.

jamie peacock: But stupid people I have great issue dealing with.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: So where can people find you and your stuff, Kurt?

Curt: You can find me and my things at confounded machine.com. in a few weeks we will drop some more pens. I have to make a whole wackadoo to finish this commercial order. And then yeah, I'll have some more.

Curt: So, um, yeah. And it links to everything else, anything else you'd want to know on YouTube and all that jazz.

jamie peacock: Nice. Yeah. I like that Kurt only has one thing.

Curt: So,

jamie peacock: I should probably just put a link tree somewhere. um

Curt: I've been thinking about doing like the OnlyFans girls on my Instagram and then also putting like FAQs there because I answered so many of the same question.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: No one's going to click it. It's wasted effort, but maybe I'll do it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So how about you? Where can we find your links and stuff?

jamie peacock: Yeah, you can find the dates to happenings of the shop at jspec underscore engineering on Instagram. You can find the flak, the shirts, and links to the podcast stuff on jspeceng.com. And you can find workholding stuff at nauticalwh.com, which has got the anchor point and the keel clamps on it currently.

jamie peacock: And soon probably some more things because Kurt.

Curt: Ooh, what am I doing?

jamie peacock: Yes, I'm blaming you entirely.

Curt: Oh, sure. Okay, fine. Fair enough.

jamie peacock: Blaming you for what's coming.

Curt: Cool.

Curt: which What you got going on today?

jamie peacock: ah Today, going to go fuck around in the workshop for a little bit and then going to a family thing. It's a 56th wedding anniversary today for Danica's aunt.

Curt: Oh, hu ah congrats.

jamie peacock: So we're going through to the family for that.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Should be fun. um Yeah, good deal with family. What are you up to tomorrow?

Curt: Uh, tomorrow. I don't know. Don't know. No idea.

jamie peacock: Nice.

Curt: Um, yeah, but weekend.

jamie peacock: Living by the seat your pants.

Curt: So yeah, hang out with the little rats.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Uh, we'll probably find something to do. i don't know if they were outside watering the ground. It's finally melting here.

jamie peacock: Ah, fun.

Curt: So I don't know. i don't know what tomorrow holds in the store. I might do a little bit of a, actually some of the graphics works to correct those little sticker things so I can get that out of my hair.

jamie peacock: OK, yeah.

Curt: And, uh, yeah, that's about it. Nothing crazy. So cool.

jamie peacock: Nice. Sweet. ah Cool. Thank you, everybody, for listening. ah If you enjoyed the podcast, please consider sharing it. If you didn't enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it anyway, because Rage listens or listens. um

Curt: Take care,

jamie peacock: And then, yeah, check out Taps and Patients this week, because I'm going to be there and be fancy. But yeah, thank you very much for listening, and we will see you next week.

Curt: to carol

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