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Ep. 73: Barnacles, Bandsaws & Bad Decisions
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This week on the The Lone Machinist Podcast, Jamie fights anodizing for three straight days, accidentally makes the wrong color parts, redesigns a bandsaw out of pure spite, and discovers that South African customs agents apparently moonlight as package demolition experts.
Meanwhile, Curt declares war on bubble mailers after the packaging industry collectively decided quality control was optional. Customs also disassembled a customer’s pen shipment like they were searching for state secrets, proving once again that no cardboard box survives international shipping emotionally intact.
There’s also:
- A Harbor Freight bandsaw running entirely on anger
- Soap bottle engineering failures
- Tiny dovetail vises called Barnacles
- A chip tray overflowing with enough aluminum to build a second machine
- A possible new workshop
- A helicopter seat machined from an aluminum brick the size of a kitchen appliance
- And at least three business ideas that should probably not be pursued without supervision.
If you’ve ever looked at a machine and thought “this can definitely be improved with compressed air and bad financial decisions,” this episode is for you.
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Transcript
Introduction and Upcoming Topics
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Loan Machines podcast, which is you, the work, your machine. What have you got going on today,
00:00:06
Curt
Oh, this week I'm or this week today. I'm going to talk about how I almost bought a Kern, my war on bubble mailers and minimizing everything. How about you? What are going about, Jamie?
00:00:18
jamie peacock
going to talk ah about how anodizing is annoying, how I've been machining even more steel, and that I'm working on the chip tray for the LK.
00:00:27
Curt
Nice.
00:00:28
jamie peacock
How are you this fine evening, Kurt?
00:00:31
Curt
I'm doing fantastic. Like I just told you, i always get a nice fancy drink when we do our podcast cause i don't drink coffee at nighttime here anymore. So tonight I'm drinking Tahiti Treat, which is actually is now called Tahitian Treat because I think there was like a I don't know, a buyout or something like that.
00:00:42
jamie peacock
Fancy.
00:00:46
Curt
So anyways, still tastes
Neighborhood Burglary Incident
00:00:48
Curt
like Tahiti Treat.
00:00:48
jamie peacock
Ah.
00:00:48
Curt
So quite a big fan.
00:00:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:00:51
Curt
Anyways, how's a sunny South Africa?
00:00:51
jamie peacock
Nice. Well, not sunny yet. It's still bloody dark outside. it um
00:00:56
Curt
good
00:00:57
jamie peacock
And we had someone burgled like four houses down from us at like five o'clock this morning. So exciting times.
00:01:02
Curt
Hmm.
00:01:03
jamie peacock
Got some camera footage from one of the neighbors of the guy running the road then firing warning shots at the car. And then he dropped all the things and he got all his stuff back. So yeah, never a dull moment here.
Custom Coffee Blend Recipe
00:01:15
jamie peacock
I'm drinking coffee this morning.
00:01:16
Curt
Okay. o
00:01:19
jamie peacock
which we have a ratio and now we found a there's a shop down the road food lovers they do they've got like little bins of different flavor coffees. So it's now three of the salted caramel two of the Belgian chocolate and one of the vanilla French vanilla flavored coffees in the bag and we shake it up and that's the mix we like.
00:01:38
Curt
Nice.
00:01:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, so custom blend.
00:01:41
Curt
Sick.
00:01:41
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's rather rather tasty. It means I can have less sugar in my coffee because it's not bitter as fuck.
00:01:47
Curt
Fair. Yeah, fair.
00:01:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, I want to die from drink from having all the sugars.
00:01:53
Curt
Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, we probably all get enough of it.
Anodizing Challenges and Strategies
00:01:56
jamie peacock
Yeah. Which Yeah.
00:01:56
Curt
So let me, ah let's ah start off.
00:01:59
Curt
why Why is anodizing annoying? Yeah.
00:02:02
jamie peacock
Because I spent three days this week doing it.
00:02:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, I had to anodize a bunch mag bases. I had to anodize some anchor points. had to anodize some rackers. what else And then after all this, I go to tally up the mag base order and oh fuck, those blue ones were meant to be purple. So I had to run another batch of ammo.
00:02:23
Curt
Oh.
00:02:23
jamie peacock
So I'm, yeah, kind of over Anno. So I'm ordering a whole buttload of mag-based material. I'm just going to machine a whole pile and send them off to Anno. And when the customer wants to like, this is what's in stock. Pick from what's in stock.
00:02:35
jamie peacock
Otherwise, you need to wait three weeks or more. And just send, like, 50. fifty I'll keep a couple unanodized that I can anodize them in-house to do the...
00:02:48
jamie peacock
gunmetal gray and the purple. They're not going to do those for me. They said, please never bring us gunmetal gray, because it's super time sensitive. So they don't actually want to do that color.
00:02:59
Curt
Oh, oh, okay. So I guess they just use black or something and then, okay.
00:03:02
jamie peacock
It's the black dye. It's the black dye.
00:03:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:03:04
jamie peacock
And like three minutes later, you eat it out to get the right color. And my setup is three minutes and black is like 25 minutes. So yeah, they said, please don't. So i will just do red, white and black. i Sorry, red.
00:03:17
jamie peacock
red, blue and black with them. And then those are the ones that move the most anyway. And then I'll keep a couple for doing gray and purple in-house because it sucks.
00:03:28
Curt
Cool.
00:03:29
jamie peacock
a Anodizing that many parts, it sucks. And then I've just got to make one process change. We drill and thread a M3 hole into them. And then I'm going to do after anodize because if I do it before anodize, my parts are going runs.
00:03:44
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:45
jamie peacock
So let's try and avoid that.
00:03:48
Curt
Yeah. If you can, that'd be way easier then.
00:03:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, I mean, that's one of the one of the annoying things with the the new industrial space is making sure there's somewhere to put the anno setup that isn't going to put acid fumes across everything. But we'll get to that topic later on.
00:04:02
Curt
fair. Yeah.
00:04:03
jamie peacock
But yeah, like I don't want to get rid of anno because anodizing anchor points, I don't mind doing those.
00:04:04
Curt
Hmm.
00:04:09
jamie peacock
It's just like the thought of sending anchor point bodies out is just no. Just fucking no. Like, after last time, no.
00:04:16
Curt
yeah I say, yeah, you have some PTSD.
00:04:17
jamie peacock
Like I can change the whole process.
00:04:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:04:20
jamie peacock
I can go and change the whole process, but I don't really want to go and change the whole process. um So I could mill the bores for the pins undersized, send it for anode, then probe them and machine them to final size. But now we're adding extra points of failure to the system.
00:04:36
jamie peacock
And I don't really want to do that.
00:04:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:04:39
jamie peacock
So it is what it is.
00:04:41
Curt
Well, you can always revisit it if you're like, if, you know, demand cranks and you just can't keep
00:04:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, if I need to.
Packaging Challenges and Solutions
00:04:47
Curt
up, then then you can always play that game.
00:04:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, but anodizing is not the limiting factor on anchor point production.
00:04:54
Curt
Fair.
00:04:54
jamie peacock
Like, anodizing takes less time than machining the body, so it doesn't really, doesn't really make a difference there.
00:04:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:01
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, um why are you going to war with bubble mailers?
00:05:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:07
Curt
yeah i'm not I shouldn't say I'm exactly going to war, but like I had a gang of bubble mailers. I really liked them. They were silver. They were really heavy duty. I don't use bubble mailers for anything, but for like stickers or like if someone orders. like Some people want like a new label for their box. They rip their box up and they want a new label on it.
00:05:24
Curt
Dumb little things. That's what use bubble mailers for. So I went to order a gang more, and of course, they don't make them anymore. I was like, okay, well, whatever. I'll find like the next closest alternative.
00:05:34
Curt
Bought that. um Received them like the weakest things possible. And I like tried to suss out like a better brand. And I was like, these are terrible.
00:05:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:05:44
Curt
And it's like, it's just, it's the race to the bottom for those. Everybody wants to make the cheapest possible one. So I was literally just scrolling listings, looking for the highest price and just buying those. Cause I'm like, well, it's probably better.
00:05:55
Curt
Anyways, they all suck. um and Then I realized all my packaging is like, recyclable to begin with. I'm like, do I want to be like throwing a bunch of bubble mailers in the world that are just like not recyclable at all?
00:06:06
Curt
So then I priced out like boxes and I realized boxes are the same price. So I'm probably gonna use boxes. But then I found one bubble mailer that is all paper. um It is completely recyclable. It has plastic bubbles inside, but the plastic is made from come compostable material.
00:06:20
Curt
So you can like, you can just compost the whole thing.
00:06:21
jamie peacock
Okay. Ah, okay. Yeah.
00:06:23
Curt
Anyway, so I bought a and the old ones that looked at, they were heinous. They were like kind of a yellow color and they looked like, they looked like garbage, but they made new ones that are black. um and i kind of like i kind of like those so i bought a bunch of those they're okay um i don't think i'm go to buy any more of them but yeah anyways just like everything seems to be like a race to the bottom for some of that kind of stuff it just like why can't i just get a good and i like i even went like i don't typically like to shop at uline i looked at uline i'm like well they don't really have what i want either and it's just like why is this so difficult but everybody wants the cheapest possible solution so that's what all the manufacturers make so
00:06:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly. That's unfortunately how it goes with the packaging type things.
00:06:59
Curt
Yeah. So anyways, that's, don't know. It was fun. It's just raging at my computer or raging at my phone as I'm looking for something that just like, why can't I buy the old thing I just bought?
00:07:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's
00:07:11
Curt
I should have bought 10,000 of them. That's a problem. It's like, I always want to be like, oh, I like this. Okay. I'm going to 50,000 million. So I never have to worry about it. I'm like, that's dumb, but yeah.
00:07:20
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, yeah, that's typical fucking typical man mode find something you like and never change it. ah The body wash I use they change the fucking lid and I hate it.
00:07:31
jamie peacock
Because the lid doesn't close properly. But like fucking hit it again, something i'm like for fucks sakes, this wasn't broken. Why did you fix it? The plastic stick is now thinner in every part of the container. I'm like, what the fuck? Why?
00:07:45
Curt
That's i so on brand.
00:07:45
jamie peacock
No, change things.
00:07:48
Curt
We bought like the dish soap that it stands on its cap and then you just pick it up and it's it's got like one of those like a little um rubber like kind of butthole valves on it.
00:07:51
jamie peacock
Yes. Oh God. Yeah. Yeah. So those
00:07:59
Curt
So you just squeeze it and it goes like break and then as soon as you let it go, it stops. I love it because when I'm doing the dishes, i just grab the bottle, squeeze it, put it back down. I don't have to don't have to flip a lid or anything. And then, of course, they like stopped making that bottle. So I have like I have them. we just save them and i wash them out and I fill them with soap again and like...
00:08:13
jamie peacock
so
00:08:13
Curt
I could probably go and buy a better solution, but whatever.
00:08:14
jamie peacock
those they released those bottles here
Machining Anecdotes and Tips
00:08:19
jamie peacock
must have been in the mid 2010s. Big push for like our main proper dishwashing brand sunlight sunlight.
00:08:27
jamie peacock
They switched from the age old bottle to that bottle big push.
00:08:28
Curt
Okay.
00:08:32
jamie peacock
And they all fucking leaks because everyone here puts it on their windowsill and their windowsill sits in the sun.
00:08:38
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:08:38
jamie peacock
So it would, they just fucking leaked the whole time because the it would expand and just shit out.
00:08:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:44
jamie peacock
They're like, you never need to put the cap back on. And after about a year, they read, they just fucking discontinued it because of that.
00:08:46
Curt
okay
00:08:51
Curt
Okay. Okay. Maybe that's the reason.
00:08:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, because of the temperature swing, like, because at night you wash dishes, it's kind of cool. So you put the thing back on your counter during the day, gets hot and you come home, there's fucking soap on your counter. no
00:09:03
Curt
that could be a problem. Yeah. That'd be annoying. Yeah.
00:09:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, like that that cost them millions. It was quite fun. Like they did a huge push. They know you never need to open or close it and yeah, leaked like a sip. It was great.
00:09:14
Curt
Interesting.
00:09:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, it yeah, things you think are a great idea about in practice or not.
00:09:16
Curt
That's awesome.
00:09:20
Curt
Yeah. And that's like that dovetails perfectly into our world of like build something and get it out there quick. Cause like you'll encounter things where you're like, I had no idea that would even be a problem.
00:09:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:31
Curt
And yeah, yeah, totally.
00:09:32
jamie peacock
Fail fast and fail cheap.
00:09:34
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
00:09:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:37
jamie peacock
That's exactly it. Sorry, I just had to quickly get undressed. thought I'd stop recording for that.
00:09:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:44
jamie peacock
um
00:09:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, fast, fast, fast, cheap. like Build it and see if it works. Speaking of building it and seeing if it works, I have a new idea for bandsaws.
00:09:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:51
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:09:55
Curt
Okay. Yeah. I caught that story, but tell it to the listener.
00:09:56
jamie peacock
so Yes. So if you up poor and have a shitty bandsaw from a carb freight whatever, it's some of them have this really, really shit for us, where you push the thing for the I pull it a little lever down and it goes a little bit further forward.
00:10:12
jamie peacock
They are the worst fucking thing on this planet. Like, they fucking suck.
00:10:16
Curt
yeah
00:10:17
jamie peacock
You can't actually clamp anything. So yesterday I was cutting some bars. Ended up having put a G-clamp on there, tightening it, or C-clamp, whatever, fucking tighten the thing, and then lock it. So I was like, hang on. I need like an extra three or four millimeters of just clamping.
00:10:31
jamie peacock
So I'm thinking of making a soft jaw that goes on the moving jaw that you can get it kind of close and then just put air pressure on It goes, and opens out a little bit more.
00:10:42
Curt
Okay.
00:10:42
jamie peacock
So making a pneumatic clamp, and then you also automate your bandsaw. But yeah, think of building one of those and seeing if it works. Basically a square pneumatic cylinder that I'm gonna make. That is the size of the jaw.
00:10:53
jamie peacock
But could be a ah useful thing, like especially you're clamping bars, because if you keep it pressurized, if they move at all, it'll keep clamping.
Workshop Planning and Packaging Design
00:11:03
Curt
Okay. I could. Yeah, I could see that.
00:11:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah, that's all frustrates me. It works well, but it frustrates me with trying to clamp stuff, especially round stuff.
00:11:09
Curt
Fair.
00:11:11
jamie peacock
It's like a nightmare clamp round stuff. I want something that will be constantly applying pressure.
00:11:14
Curt
I
00:11:17
Curt
i would never have thought that would have been the weak point. It seems like a screw, and but I see how they're designing it, and it's it's dumb.
00:11:23
jamie peacock
It doesn't have a fucking screw.
00:11:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, if it had a screw, it wouldn't be a problem.
00:11:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:26
jamie peacock
But mine doesn't have a screw. um So frustrating as hell. So I figured why not also if your production cutting could be really useful to just unclamp slide forward clamp and go.
00:11:38
Curt
Yeah, I can see that being, yeah, for sure.
00:11:39
jamie peacock
that you know, if even if you've got one with a screw, you could just leave it at a set position, release the pressure, slide your ball forward, hit pressure on again and carry on. I made a thing to do that back in the day for cutting Torx bits, when we're blanking eight millimeter hex bar that Danica could literally add a foot pedal, you just push the foot pedal lift the saw slide forward, take your foot of the pedal and start cutting again.
00:12:02
jamie peacock
So um that is ah gonna see if I have material, but then I broke my bandsaw blade. So now I don't have bandsaw blades. Can't cut material to make a prototype.
00:12:11
Curt
I got him a chair for the bandsaw blade that he brought you chicken and egg
00:12:14
jamie peacock
Yeah. um Yeah, well, I've got a bandsaw blade, but it's too long. So when order bandsaw blades, they've been stretching them a little bit longer a little bit longer. um because they try and match the tooth pattern. So it's a variable pitch.
00:12:29
jamie peacock
So they try and match where they join and every time they go a little bit fucking longer. So I'm actually out of adjustment.
00:12:34
Curt
yeah
00:12:35
jamie peacock
So I need to order it at instead of 164, 1630 and then it'll be the right length.
00:12:42
Curt
Oh, gotcha. Okay. Yeah.
00:12:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, my band sort runs really well for being a really cheap shitty harbour freight band. So the switch broke on it this week. that switch, it's the original search that things cut like 20,000 pieces of material, if not a bit more than that.
00:12:51
Curt
Hmm.
00:12:58
jamie peacock
Like we've we literally cut 10,000 talk spits on there. I know that I've invoiced at least that many within a year. um And then we changed our process. ah It cuts 7000 pieces of flat bar in like a month.
00:13:13
jamie peacock
Danica literally sat and read her book, put a foot on the pedal, the saw would lift up it would unclam should feed the bar against the stop take a foot off the pedal and Karen reading a book.
00:13:22
Curt
Wow.
00:13:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, now we cut 1000s and 1000s of parts on that bandsaw. But yeah, the trick to those cheap bandsaws is when they arrive, take the wheels off, put them on your lathe and true them up. Because they are not true the bearing seat to the to the the contact on the wheels, you skim them and then they run beautifully.
00:13:35
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:13:42
Curt
This reminds me of, ah just you saying that reminds me of the old, like, I have like a 1950, I have a bunch of like 1950s popular mechanics, popular science. And one of them is like, if you're having difficulty with this, whatever it was, it's like, go out to your garage and put it on your lathe and turn it down. Just like assuming that everybody reading this magazine in 1950 would of course have a lathe in their garage. Like, why wouldn't you have a metal lathe in your garage? It's like, what are you, a savage? and like, it made me laugh when he's like that.
00:14:10
jamie peacock
actually watched a documentary thing on the Bridgeport
00:14:14
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:14:14
jamie peacock
and how they became the name of the machine, like how they started out their sonar as a hedge trimmer company.
00:14:22
Curt
Oh, really? Interesting.
00:14:23
jamie peacock
And then went into the series one and had fucking skyrocketed. And then hard eventually declined. Like it was really, really interesting.
00:14:32
jamie peacock
It was like a 45 minute long documentary on YouTube.
00:14:32
Curt
Cool.
00:14:36
Curt
Interesting. That's wild.
00:14:37
jamie peacock
because you can still buy Bridgeport machines.
00:14:40
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:14:40
jamie peacock
They sold off when they when they went out of business, they sold the sold the name and all the drawings to someone. can't remember who.
00:14:49
Curt
Interesting.
00:14:49
jamie peacock
Yeah. So like they still make stuff under the Bridgeport name.
00:14:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:54
jamie peacock
But the Series 2 Bridgeport was still being manufactured and, well, it was cloned, and then it's still being manufactured under the Bridgeport name.
00:15:04
Curt
I mean, they do all machines. Yeah, for sure.
00:15:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, it's the, yeah, they're wicked machines. Kind of want one in the new shop shits and giggles.
00:15:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:13
Curt
when I was like just getting into machining, I thought that was like the piece de resistance of machining. I was like a bridge board. I'm like, I would love a bridge board in my garage. And then I started, I'm like, oh yeah, they're, they're amazing.
00:15:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:24
Curt
They're very cool. And from their, at their time, they were incredible, but I'm like, there's pretty different things out nowadays.
00:15:26
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:15:31
jamie peacock
Yeah. They're useful for like squaring up a block or punching a hole quickly or something like that. Like they have their place.
00:15:37
Curt
Oh, totally. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're doing boat repairs or whatever.
00:15:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:40
Curt
Yeah. Big manual machines like that are worth it for sure.
00:15:41
jamie peacock
Not really useful. Yeah, I'll probably end up getting one at some point just for drilling the odd hole in something or tapping or whatever.
00:15:50
Curt
I think even not a bridge board. I think every shop is better suited with just like manual mill and a manual lathe. Like it's amazing how many times I use, like I will never be without a manual lathe.
00:16:00
Curt
Like I've, I've flirted with it.
00:16:01
jamie peacock
I used my toy lathe yesterday.
00:16:03
Curt
They're so useful, like for everything. I'm just like, Oh, I just need to quickly like do this and boop it's, it's done. Like, yeah.
00:16:10
jamie peacock
need quickly shorten a bolt or need to quickly turn the head on a bolt down or something like that. Yeah, got to have it.
00:16:14
Curt
Yep.
00:16:15
jamie peacock
Can not have it.
00:16:16
Curt
Yep. Yep.
00:16:17
jamie peacock
That's why when I sold my slightly bigger manual lathe, I bought the shitty toy because I needed lathe.
00:16:18
Curt
I agree.
00:16:23
jamie peacock
Like I don't use it every day. But when you need it, you need it. Yeah.
00:16:28
Curt
Even a toy lathe is better than no, like having just my little tag lathe was better than no lathe. Like it's exactly.
00:16:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:16:34
Curt
It's like, how going to, how else you going do it?
00:16:34
jamie peacock
No.
00:16:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, super, super useful tool to have around.
Anodizing and Stock Management
00:16:40
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah, that's I've still got to figure out the the workshop layouts, but that we'll get to later.
00:16:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:44
jamie peacock
um
00:16:45
Curt
Exciting.
00:16:46
jamie peacock
Yes, what are the fun fancy things to have? You don't have that many things on there. um
00:16:51
Curt
I can riff on some of these pretty long. So um let's talk about speaking of fancy to or shoot, whatever you want.
00:16:58
jamie peacock
And I'm designing packaging so customs can't fuck it up. Because I have a custom story as well.
00:17:04
Curt
well, we can get into that one.
00:17:05
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:17:06
Curt
um ah this and Nothing that real I mean, kind of. So a customer had a ah pen that had some anodizing and he didn't know if he was, if there was something that got on it. um Cause the, the finish dulled and I'm like, well, it just needs to be cleaned. Like I can tell you from the photo, it just needs to be cleaned. And he was having a struggle bus of an issue.
00:17:22
Curt
He's like, if I could send it to you, like, could you check? and I'm like, of course. I'm like, yeah, no sweat. So anyways, he sent it to me. And my rule, whenever people send me anything, i was like, i don't care how you pack it, but don't pack it in a bubble mailer.
00:17:32
Curt
Speaking of bubble mailers earlier, I put it in a box, put it in something because bubble mailers, they'll feed it through machines and the pen will just poke its way through. And I never get the pen. I just get a bubble mailer and with a hole in it.
00:17:41
jamie peacock
Young.
00:17:43
Curt
So anyways, Customs got a hold of it and they obviously didn't trust him that he was sending me a pen. So it was in a box. They shredded open the box and then inside it, he had it in a bubble mailer. So they opened the bubble mailer and they took it out of its, it's like a little Toblerone box that my pen's shipping.
00:17:56
Curt
They popped it out of there, looked at it like, oh, it is indeed a pen. And they must have put it back in the Toblerone box. And then we're just like, F this, whipped it in the bubble mailer and just jammed it back in the box, threw a couple of pieces of tape on it, sent it to me. So by the time it got to me, it jostled out of everything. And the pen was just rattling around in a box and like brand new pen. So, and it's cardboard. It's probably not going to scuff or scratch it, but still.
00:18:17
Curt
um And that's just because i get it. They're going through a bajillion boxes. They don't give a shit about your product. They had to check, make sure it wasn't contraband and move it along. And so then I realized I'm like, I rarely have issues with like my box being like pen just coming loose. Then I realized the way I designed my packaging, the only way to put it back together is a, the simplest way and be the only way the box will close.
00:18:43
Curt
So if like, if customs gets ahold of it, they open it up, they look at my pen, they go, yeah, it's a pen. they have to put it back in its a little holder because that's the only way the holder fits in the box. And then the the holder fits in the box only one way.
00:18:55
jamie peacock
Yes. Yes. Okay.
00:18:55
Curt
And that makes sure that when it's in that way, that's the only way the lid closes.
00:18:59
Curt
And it's also the easiest way to put it back together. So it's like, it scratches all the things of like, you can't mess it up because it's the easiest way and it's the only way. So anyways, I just, I realized kind of accidentally designed it that way.
00:19:12
Curt
Then I'm like, oh, I have to put conscious effort into this now. So like, It's easier for me to pack up, but then it's also way more difficult for exact like customs to just jam it all together and send you something that just ruins the product.
00:19:24
Curt
So, yeah. Anyways, kind of cool.
00:19:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, designing packaging is fun. enjoy it.
00:19:29
Curt
Dude, my favorite. It's my favorite.
00:19:31
jamie peacock
No, it's really, really fun. I need to do some more design for the machinable keel clamps. Got a slightly longer version that you can custom machine the end of.
00:19:36
Curt
Okay.
00:19:41
jamie peacock
So I'm busy designing a palette.
00:19:41
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:19:44
jamie peacock
I've designed the palette in the process of making said palette for making dovetail vases, but I'm using the anchor point, dovetail vases, and the keel clamps in one palette.
00:19:56
Curt
Nice.
00:19:56
jamie peacock
So it the material goes at the back for op one held in with the kill clamp. of Sorry, for op zero then goes into the dovetail vise for op one. So every time I drop the pallets in, I get three finished or three op one parts out.
00:20:09
jamie peacock
And then my pallet for op two takes 12 12 components. So I can run the one pallet four times then run the other pallets and get 12 finished parts.
00:20:20
Curt
Was that the story you had on your account where you had like a, uh, like a, round like yeah ER holder facing upright and then, ah oh okay.
00:20:28
jamie peacock
No, that was just different shit. That I needed to make a little spacer and I didn't feel like turning the lathe on, so I just made it on the mill, the slitting saw.
00:20:35
Curt
Oh, gotcha. Okay.
00:20:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, as one does.
00:20:36
Curt
I see.
00:20:37
jamie peacock
um
00:20:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, I needed to make a little spacer and then side drill it for, yeah, for pocket clip to mount something, so... I just, yeah, I've got all the freaking accessories.
00:20:46
Curt
I see.
00:20:48
jamie peacock
I just pop that in and then pop the vise behind it, machined the spacer, put it in the vise, cross side drilled the hole, and then the other two self-centrings were set up for making keel clamps.
00:20:59
Curt
Gotcha. Okay.
Machine Maintenance and Coolant Solutions
00:21:00
jamie peacock
So I was just running off the the longer clamps.
00:21:01
Curt
Cool.
00:21:03
jamie peacock
So building out the the work holding line of bits and bobs.
00:21:09
Curt
Wow. Lots of, lots of things.
00:21:09
jamie peacock
But yeah, now need to, yeah, now need to design packaging. The problem is I've got a standard delay there and run a bunch parts today. So nothing is going to get done.
00:21:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:20
jamie peacock
But yeah, Friday night I designed the palette for the dovetail vise parts.
00:21:21
Curt
Fair.
00:21:27
jamie peacock
So I'm putting three of the little dovetail vises on a palette.
00:21:28
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:21:31
jamie peacock
It's going to be so cute. And then yeah, anode those this week as well.
00:21:34
Curt
what are you What are you calling your little dovetail vices?
00:21:39
jamie peacock
The Barnacles.
00:21:41
Curt
I love that. That is so good.
00:21:42
jamie peacock
Yes. That was Justin Gray sent me a message like, you need to call them Barnacles. They're going to look like Barnacles on a tombstone. I'm like, that is the name.
00:21:51
Curt
That is perfect.
00:21:52
jamie peacock
Like, yeah.
00:21:53
Curt
As soon as I read that, I'm like, that is perfectly on brand, and it is exactly what they're to like.
00:21:57
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:21:57
Curt
So yeah, A plus to big brain Justin Gray.
00:21:58
jamie peacock
It's going to be great. So, yeah, to Justin. I need to just figure out the engraving on them, and then I've got material on order for a bunch of them, and for a 52 millimeter adapter plates laying on 5th axis 52 millimeter adapter and then i think I might make those adapters also rover compatible.
00:22:19
Curt
Oh, okay, cool.
00:22:21
jamie peacock
So you can have a little dovetail bus on a little 20mm riser plate. I just need to figure out how the hell I'm going to anodize those and have them not throw the tolerance right out the window because I was going to do the i was you surface the top but then how the fuck do hold it for re-machining those balls?
00:22:32
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:22:37
jamie peacock
So it becomes a bit of a chicken-eating situation. um And I don't really want to leave them raw.
00:22:37
Curt
Yeah, right.
00:22:45
Curt
Fair, fair, yeah.
00:22:46
jamie peacock
Yeah. So interesting, interesting challenge. And then I've got a customer who needs a whole bunch of site mounts. We were sending some off to Anodize and I'm like, cool, let me get this other stuff ready for Anno. We'll send it all on one batch.
00:22:58
jamie peacock
And then he phones like, have you sent this stuff to Anno? I sold five of them. I'm like, well, there's four of them here. So he's sending the four to the customer and then I've got to make another 10 of them. But those are quite fun because it's got a curve at the front of the site mounts to stop stuff hitting your site like your little red dot site when you fire the gun.
00:23:19
jamie peacock
So I machine it from above to get that contour slits it off and then it goes in a vase and I machine the features on the slide.
00:23:27
Curt
Oh, cool. Okay.
00:23:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's quite a cool workflow. So I'll make sure i document that workflow. This is kind cool.
00:23:31
Curt
Neat. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:32
jamie peacock
I'm going to be using my little self centric vices for it. Now that I have soft tools.
00:23:36
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:23:38
jamie peacock
Also thinking of adding the soft tools to the to the website.
00:23:38
Curt
Oh yeah.
00:23:42
Curt
Why not i add everything?
00:23:44
jamie peacock
No, it's just I've got to make a bunch of put them on the shelf and those are for stock and not for Jamie's use.
00:23:51
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:23:51
jamie peacock
But I might do that just like that's my plan is just add a million stupid little work holding things to the website.
00:23:52
Curt
but
00:23:58
jamie peacock
So I've been like I went through and i added Yeah, i did some tweaks to the website last week, I think. So now there is a dedicated anchor point 4.1, which is a little bit discounted.
00:23:58
Curt
Yeah.
00:24:09
Curt
Gotcha.
00:24:10
jamie peacock
It's the non I can't guarantee compatibility with laying on those ones. But I have 14 of the bodies. So I'm busy running this week on and run more bodies. So I'm gonna stock up on mechanicals and stock up on pneumatic bodies, the 4.2 pneumatics and the mechanical the production mechanical version.
00:24:29
jamie peacock
So they will all have the Saunders Machine Works holes. I need to do a video. Maybe like this is the changes between the versions just to explain everything bit more clearly. Yeah, but they now we machine the Lang stud holes and the Saunders Machine Works Dalpin holes as well as the bottom and the final operation. So everything is perpendicular.
00:24:51
Curt
Cool. That's nice.
00:24:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I'll have some on hand probably tomorrow and then I can document that.
00:24:59
Curt
Nice. Well, that's that's a perfect segue because sitting in the machine behind me, your anchor point is finally mounted to the table. And ah yeah, I think now... Well, sorry, it it's not mounted at the table.
00:25:08
jamie peacock
the table or the new glasses.
Industrial Space Search and Logistics
00:25:10
Curt
I'm lying. It's held by the vices right now. Um, but, and I know, I know it's the, it's the beta unit and, uh, and I was using the, uh, big flux, um, flex your device, uh, on top of it that Mr. Ken is developing right now.
00:25:25
Curt
And you were slightly concerned. Cause I know when you develop that beta unit, you didn't want, you weren't sure if the alignment was perfect. And so I was like, I'll sweep it before I started going crazy on it.
00:25:31
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:35
Curt
So, uh, I put, I put one of the flux vices, uh, on top of your anchor point and then swept it. And I think it was within like, ah a 10 or something just ridiculous. Like so much so that I was like tapping. I'm like, Oh, my indicators like not touching it, obviously. And I was like, Oh no, it's just like ah laser on. i was like, that's impressive.
00:25:55
Curt
Um, and considering it's also being clamped in my vice. So like it's, you kind of double staged it.
00:25:59
jamie peacock
is
00:26:01
Curt
Like,
00:26:01
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:02
Curt
Because you also had to machine the bottom of the plate that it mounts to normally on the table.
00:26:03
jamie peacock
Introduced error. Yeah. Yes.
00:26:06
Curt
You machined it so I could hold in my vices. So that was another area where you could have caused it to to be out of square. now So anyways, squares can be. So as soon as I saw it, I'm like, oh, dude, i'm like that's impressive.
00:26:18
Curt
And then I swapped the different ah flux vices on top because I i wanted to see my Z. was like, I wonder how how consistent these are. And yeah, like Ken's machining is freaking top notch too, because those were within a 10th.
00:26:29
Curt
And I'm like, this is insane. I'm like, all this is really accurate. Nice. I was quite pleased. So either I lucked out and just got the cream of the crop on those or both you guys are doing good machining.
00:26:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:38
jamie peacock
Now I would assume Ken makes them exactly the same thickness.
00:26:38
Curt
So, yeah.
00:26:43
Curt
Yeah, they don't have to because nine times out of 10, you're going to pocket them.
00:26:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, we were cheating.
00:26:46
Curt
So like if they're within five, 10th hour, you're plenty.
00:26:46
jamie peacock
But...
00:26:48
Curt
But yeah, they were spot on.
00:26:49
jamie peacock
Yeah. So my ones... allegedly will be here tomorrow. um But we ran into fun with FedEx because Ken's hey, I'm sending you set, send me your address.
00:26:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:59
jamie peacock
I'll send him my address. And he, we got an email with Ken and I from FedEx. Can we have a commercial invoice? So I'm like, FedEx emailed. He's oh, not a problem. He'll send through an invoice.
00:27:11
jamie peacock
No, we can't clear it with that invoice. It has a $0 value. Ken's like, no money has changed hands. I'm sending these to Jamie I've paid for the shipping myself like no man. No, it needs to have at least a $1 value. So you made a $1 commercial invoice and sent that through and then it's fine.
00:27:28
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:28
jamie peacock
It's like you.
00:27:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, the level of stupid with the with customs here is
00:27:38
Curt
Yeah, they're...
00:27:38
jamie peacock
insane.
Helicopter Seat Design Project
00:27:40
jamie peacock
So mine should be a
00:27:45
jamie peacock
allegedly I'll go track them off for the show. because FedEx have been useless. I've got another parcel coming in. I haven't even got the customs paperwork for it yet. It's stuck in France.
00:27:56
Curt
Yeah, they can be, they can be right. I know even just sending, sending you stuff, it gets, it gets complicated.
00:27:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:01
jamie peacock
Yeah, gets annoying as fuck. And the problem is like Tunnel's really good at sending stuff out of South Africa, but not bringing stuff in. Like they specialize in sending out.
00:28:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:10
jamie peacock
So like all sending stuff out, they know which loopholes to jump through and what paperwork to fill in. So they do. Whereas sending stuff like, I haven't really had issues bringing stuff in because most of the time I buy stuff and I have a commercial invoice for it.
00:28:23
jamie peacock
But yeah, I don't know, FedEx or FedExing.
00:28:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:28
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
00:28:29
jamie peacock
dark is It is what it is.
00:28:29
Curt
got it
00:28:32
jamie peacock
um so I don't know if i mentioned a few weeks ago, a few months ago that I was building a new chip tray for the LK.
00:28:32
Curt
Yeah. What?
00:28:43
Curt
I think so.
00:28:43
jamie peacock
So I ordered mesh.
00:28:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, ordered superfine, like stainless steel mesh. And then this week, my my one friend phones me. He's like, hey, he's got his press brake tools. We wire cut one of them shorter. can Can he machine a pocket into it? Because he's got a job and it it's got an edge that's intersecting his press tools. He needs a bit of like a neck on the press tools. So I'm like, dude, you phoned at the exact right time.
00:29:08
jamie peacock
What's in my machine will be done in about 30 minutes. If you're here, then i will put your thing in before i put the next part in. So he came through and then we quickly machine some notches in the side of his tools.
00:29:21
jamie peacock
And then I'm like yeah, I need to sort out this chip, the chip tray story because I'm just getting chips through the chip tray like it's not even funny. There's more shavings in my in my coolant tank than coolant. So I'm like, yeah, I designed everything. So show me. So i'm open on I up actually finished the design. I forgot that I finished the design.
00:29:37
jamie peacock
He's like, send me the step. I've got material. What did you design on? I've got 1.2. He's like, he's got a sheet of 1.2 hot roll. He'll plasma it out for me and weld it together like this week. I'm like, fucking A.
00:29:47
Curt
Turk.
00:29:48
jamie peacock
So I'll have a new chip tray this week. I then need to just find punched mesh because I want to...
00:29:51
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:29:53
jamie peacock
So it's got the super fine mesh, but I want to put punched mesh above that so the the big shavings land on there that when I scrape out the shavings, I'm not scraping the mesh because I'll push straight through it.
00:30:05
Curt
Right.
00:30:06
jamie peacock
It was either that or... um I found punched mesh baskets actually is what I found at the one one of the stores like a baking section. And they're big enough that I can buy four of them slot two in when they get full hot swap them and carry on machining and just dump them out. So i think I'm going to try that first.
00:30:24
jamie peacock
But the whole envelope of this thing, like there's no way for chips to go around it.
Machining Optimization and Tool Libraries
00:30:31
jamie peacock
Because right now, the chips fill up the secondary filters and just overflow.
00:30:32
Curt
Right.
00:30:36
jamie peacock
It's a bit of a bit of a problem on the LK.
00:30:37
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:30:39
jamie peacock
So we're trying to address that because it's causing restricted coolant flow because there's another filter between the main tank and the pumps that gets covered in shavings and then reduced coolant flow. Like that's this week's endeavours to suck the machine out of moniker and filter the coolant because i but I need to buy a new filter first because my filter on moniker is fucked.
00:30:59
jamie peacock
So I need to just buy a new filter and then I can do that.
00:30:59
Curt
Hmm.
00:31:01
jamie peacock
I also need to wash moniker because I sucked out some stinky coolant.
00:31:06
Curt
Hmm.
00:31:06
jamie peacock
So I just throw a bottle of like fucking simple green in there, shake it around them and then blast it with hosepipe pump it down the drain and carry on.
00:31:14
Curt
Yeah, fair.
00:31:14
jamie peacock
Like at least then I know it's just water in the system, not any sticky coolant.
00:31:15
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:19
jamie peacock
Because I now have a barrel of frott coolant in my front area.
00:31:24
Curt
Oh, nice. Festering in the sun.
00:31:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:31:26
jamie peacock
Lovely, yes. i was like, I can smell coolant.
00:31:27
Curt
Oh.
00:31:28
jamie peacock
The lid blew off one of the buckets. So i've got ah I've got a removal company.
00:31:30
Curt
Oh.
00:31:31
jamie peacock
need just get them here and pay them to take it away. um
00:31:35
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:31:35
jamie peacock
Speaking of paying them to take it away, we have Patreons.
00:31:39
Curt
Nice.
00:31:40
jamie peacock
The Patreons make the wheels on the train go round and round. Yeah, all the Patreons at the $5 or more tier get access to the After Show. I learned this on Wednesday. um The $2 tier is just a support tier, but yeah, $5 or more get access to the After Show.
00:31:56
jamie peacock
The top tier Patreons get their names read out every week. and that list is jade from benchmark 20 luke from fabtastic aj from subtract manufacturing and 41 other companies jason s ej from maternal welding the aussie machinists christian olsen
Considering a Kern Machine Purchase
00:32:10
jamie peacock
charles watt kyle from cursed machine matt from offworld gear nxp john from 2sm performance and engine tricks and matt from modern fuel who makes really cool pencils and then we have a new patreon uh machining wizard and also machining wizard um with no space uh but yeah the patrons are all the patronage is going towards getting us to well getting me and a cardboard cutout to imts where there are some plans afoot to uh yeah we will discuss that in the after show the plans we have afoot um but yeah there are some plans afoot between the patrons and art to get up to some shenanigans which is going to be yeah it's going to be fun um but yeah thank you to all the patrons your contributions do help greatly with the whole imts story um
00:32:41
Curt
Oh,
00:32:46
Curt
boy.
00:32:55
jamie peacock
Yes. and and but Also, thank you to the Aussie Machinist for buying a bunch of shirts and things. i Speaking of shirts, they're available along with the entire back catalogue at josepaginj.com.
00:33:01
Curt
Oh, sick.
00:33:04
Curt
Ooh.
00:33:05
jamie peacock
Yes. ah Yeah, sorry. Shout out Aussie Machinist for that because he placed a huge order for a bunch of shirts.
00:33:11
Curt
Oh, that's awesome.
00:33:12
jamie peacock
Yes. And yeah, looking forward looking forward to seeing Ash at IMTS again because we hung out quite a bit at IMTS.
00:33:13
Curt
Oh, well, thank you.
00:33:20
jamie peacock
So, but anyway, back to the podcast.
00:33:20
Curt
Yeah, it sounds like a time. I'm going to miss it, but.
00:33:25
Curt
Back to the podcast.
00:33:26
jamie peacock
that's the podcast oh yes I'm going put a thing there
00:33:27
Curt
here um
00:33:29
jamie peacock
a
00:33:33
Curt
Typing on the podcast.
00:33:33
jamie peacock
go typing on the podcast yes I don't forget about talking about it so yeah no no carrot so got a phone call from the the realtor guys like one of the K units have come available in the block so I'm like cool I want to see it
00:33:35
Curt
Oh, IMT shenanigans. All right.
00:33:41
Curt
How is your, oh, go ahead. going to say, how's your search for the industrial units coming?
00:33:55
jamie peacock
also want to have another look at H10. So we went through, Danica went through there this week, had a look at H10. It'll work. It's a bit small, a bit dingy, but it'll work. um Then we went and looked at F21 again.
00:34:07
jamie peacock
They won't upgrade the power there, so it's only got a 50 amp breaker, which is problematic. And then we couldn't get into k 10. So they're waiting to the keys were meant to be returned, they were not there like if they'll get a locksmith out and get it open.
00:34:20
jamie peacock
i I want to go look at that because I would prefer the K units little bit smaller. But it's got a little outside area at the back. So we can use that for like old coolant
Minimizing Digital Clutter
00:34:30
jamie peacock
storage or whatever.
00:34:31
jamie peacock
a But the generator there if need be and put the compressors outside.
00:34:36
Curt
Cool.
00:34:36
jamie peacock
So I'll probably just build a little house out there for my compressors. It also has an upstairs bathroom that I can use for anodizing, like a changing room area that has ventilation, water, everything that's like perfect for anodizing.
00:34:48
jamie peacock
Not sure if it has an upstairs office, I might need to build out upstairs office. um So yeah, it is the the key candidate. It's just, it's also a little bit cheaper, but waiting to go look at it before I commit to which units and then get the paperwork rolling.
00:35:02
jamie peacock
But yeah, it looks like that shit's happening. Spoke to the my customer who's helping bankroll this whole story. He's like, cool, just give me a costing and let's do this. and Stop fucking around. Let's go do it. So I need to sort of costing out this afternoon or this evening with Danica just what we project all the costs to be.
00:35:19
jamie peacock
Because like now I need to sort a PC out for call because I'm not sharing my fucking work computer. I'm not walking up, hey, Carl, I need the computer.
00:35:25
Curt
Yeah, right, yeah.
00:35:26
jamie peacock
Like, fuck that. He gets his own computer. So we're looking at some refurbished R5s, like a 8th or 10th gen R5, 16 gigs of RAM, a little easy that he can carry home with him every day because we're not leaving it at the workshop.
00:35:42
Curt
Yeah, fair, yeah.
00:35:42
jamie peacock
because it will grow legs. We live in Africa. um And then I've just got to get a new case for my office PC because the power supply is currently next to the case. Because the case I bought is RTX case with a custom power supply.
00:35:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:54
jamie peacock
And the custom power supply fucking shat the bed. So I went and bought just a normal RTX power supply and ran it through the back hole. So I need to buy, there's a deep cool case that has a handle and supports ATX power supply.
00:36:02
Curt
ah
00:36:05
jamie peacock
So I'll just go buy one those. And then move my PC over and then I'm good. I've got a PC that works.
00:36:12
Curt
yeah awesome
00:36:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, so that's the current plan. And then there were 27 inch monitors on special again. So think I'm gonna pick one up and put it up here. And then take this 24 inch monitor for call.
00:36:25
Curt
cool nice so where does he get off yeah
00:36:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, that lazy motherfucker is on honeymoon. It's very frustrating. I've got a bunch of lathe work I want him to do and he's on honeymoon.
00:36:34
jamie peacock
I know ridiculous.
00:36:35
Curt
ah
00:36:36
jamie peacock
um Yeah, so when he gets back, we're gonna hit the ground running with a backlog of late work. Also, I need him to be able to quote stuff like we've got sent an RFQ. And I was busy, so didn't get to it. So like, I want him to be able to do the late stuff.
00:36:48
jamie peacock
I don't want to be involved.
00:36:51
Curt
So you're still on track for like getting the keys end of the month or start of next?
00:36:55
jamie peacock
So it looks like, it no I spoke to the realtors, like it takes three to four weeks. But as soon as the lease is dealt with, the lease will be from the 1st of July, but we'll get beneficial occupancy. So as soon as the lease is signed, we can move in in June.
00:37:09
jamie peacock
Or at least start going in and prepping to move and getting everything all sorted out.
00:37:09
Curt
oh cool. Okay.
00:37:14
jamie peacock
So that is the current plan. We will see if the current plan gets executed on or not.
00:37:17
Curt
Nice.
00:37:19
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's the that's the current plan, is to try and mid-June be in there.
00:37:22
Curt
Nice.
00:37:25
jamie peacock
because this month once again has fucking run away.
00:37:28
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:30
jamie peacock
You blink and it's the 10th.
00:37:30
Curt
Is, uh, are like, are your units like air conditioned are they not, or does it matter or.
00:37:39
jamie peacock
They're not air conned. um Our climate is pretty decent, like it's going to be a little chilly in winter. In summer, we'll open the doors and have a through through air.
00:37:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:49
jamie peacock
Like I'm not I'm not worried about getting super, super hot. And if it does get super hot, I'll insulate the roof.
00:37:53
Curt
OK.
00:37:55
jamie peacock
um I don't want to put an air con in there because it's considered fixed equipment and then I have to leave it there.
00:38:03
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah, makes sense.
00:38:05
jamie peacock
So I'd rather not, but we'll see like the the option currently the plan is moving there if things are going well, potentially get the unit next door as well.
00:38:15
Curt
OK.
00:38:16
jamie peacock
So two small units and move the lathes over there and get them out of my workshop.
00:38:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:19
jamie peacock
um But yeah, we busy we also yeah, there's a bunch of a bunch of things in the works, like large quantity and big work. So we'll see like the LK may be busy for a while.
00:38:33
jamie peacock
We've I'm helping on a design for a seat for a helicopter. But it starts out.
00:38:40
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:38:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, dude, the the material starts out at like 400 by 400 mills. So like 17 inches square, three inches thick.
00:38:46
Curt
Okay. It's big. Yeah. That's a lot of removal.
00:38:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's like three millimeters thick for most of it.
00:38:58
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Just ridiculous shape.
00:39:00
jamie peacock
A lot of material removal.
00:39:00
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:02
jamie peacock
um So my mates designing that we've got to go that thick for the hinge assembly. ah So he's designing it, then he's going to send it to me to rip it apart and tell him he's stupid, and then make some tweaks for manufacturing, then it'll go for FEA analysis.
00:39:18
jamie peacock
Because its each, each seats got a hold 500 kilos.
00:39:23
Curt
Ooh, that's up there.
00:39:24
jamie peacock
Because it's got a 4G, it's 120 kilos with a 4G, like 4Gs applied to it. So 500 kilos on each point, I think shouldn't be too hard to hit.
00:39:31
Curt
Right.
00:39:35
jamie peacock
um So yeah, he's he's busy designing that. that's It'll be fucking awesome. Like a lot of material removal.
00:39:41
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:39:42
jamie peacock
They're going want prototype. I'm like, bro, this prototype's not going to be cheap. This is going to be a fucking expensive chair.
00:39:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:48
jamie peacock
Just the material on it is like a stupid amount of money. Never mind all the machining. Like each one's probably going to be like 10 hours, 12 hours of machining.
00:39:56
Curt
Right.
00:39:57
jamie peacock
So, yeah. So I said to him, keep it within 600 by 400 millimeters and then it could potentially go onto a new machine that has 20k RPM so that I can run my roughing tool at 16,000 and actually use it at its full potential.
00:40:15
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:16
jamie peacock
so yeah we'll see uh i've learned not to hold my breath on these things but that could be a really cool job even if we just uh make one set and don't get the production we'll still be cool yeah obviously not going be allowed yeah not going to be allowed to show pictures of it but whatever
00:40:27
Curt
That's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just as a showpiece.
00:40:33
Curt
Yeah, but at least you have it to look at.
00:40:35
jamie peacock
yeah it's not like he hasn't even signed end he's just worried about the people who use the seat pitching up at his house
00:40:42
jamie peacock
because it's yeah.
00:40:43
Curt
cave fair, yeah.
00:40:44
jamie peacock
But yeah, you're fucking interesting.
00:40:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:46
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, he sent me a link to someone who makes one he's like have a look at this and then phone me. So I look at the link. i'm like, what the fuck do you page won't load on my phone got it to load on the PC. and like This is kind of cool. He's like, Yeah, um here's a picture of the model.
00:40:59
jamie peacock
Thoughts, please. or right Can we not make everything funny fucking angles? Like, no, no, we'll make it a bit square. um
00:41:04
Curt
ah
00:41:06
jamie peacock
But like even the even the pallets for that need to be like 40 millimeter thick so that they don't warp when you start removing material.
00:41:11
Curt
yeah
00:41:15
Curt
Right, right, yeah, that's big, yeah.
00:41:16
jamie peacock
Okay. It's a lot of a lot of material removal. So yeah, it's going to be super fucking fun. Lots of iso grid. um
00:41:24
Curt
Cool.
00:41:24
jamie peacock
But yeah, um super fucking excited for that. But yeah, reaching reaching down like 75 mils is a bit of a challenge. But tooling was especially on a 30 taper.
00:41:34
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:41:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, so ah ideally would go to BBT, but that's probably for another day.
00:41:40
Curt
Yeah, exactly, you make it work, totally.
00:41:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, we'll make it work. Oh, I'm not excited about your about how you can't machine things, Kurt.
00:41:50
Curt
Well, just thinking about your aluminum that transferred over perfectly. um The only material I ever machine, the only material I ever turn is titanium. I only ever work in titanium. I don't machine anything else except aluminum when I'm doing fixtures. And it just made me laugh because like all my, like every single tool is set up for a titanium. When I import, it's set up for titanium.
00:42:09
Curt
um So I bring it in and I look at aluminum. I'm like, well, aluminum, I'm like, there's like, there's basically no SFM limit. So I'm like, let's honk on it. And then I always, in my head, I still assume titanium. Like, I'm like, well, i probably shouldn't. Like, anyways, I set up the tool pass for machining the, I had to do like, basically machine two like semicircles, like canoes um out of aluminum. So I took a roughing tool and roughed it out. And it's, ah my roughing tool is like a 316. So it's not really hammering on it.
00:42:37
Curt
um But it starts to cut and i'm like, oh yeah, that's way too conservative. I'm like, okay, well, whatever. I only have to make like one of these. So I'll just sit here and, doom scroll for five minutes while it finishes is roughing and then I went to finishing and I had like I was like I think this is going to be a pretty a pretty aggressive finishing strategy I'm like I uh I get it running and I'm like I could like tenfold the speed on this thing it's just like and I'm just I'm just always used to titanium and I'm like oh yeah aluminum just doesn't care and anyways I just sit there feeling like a total noob watching this machine with the 20,000 rpm and I'm probably like running at five percent of the speed that it should be running at so I was like
00:43:09
jamie peacock
pre-tool.
00:43:16
Curt
Oh, whatever. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll tweak those better with time. So
00:43:20
jamie peacock
Dude, pre-tool. Just run your tools through pre-tool.
00:43:23
Curt
it'd be a wise idea. And the problem is though, I like, I'm like, i I'm a chicken.
00:43:24
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:43:28
Curt
So like I'll hit go. And I'm like, I'm like, that seems way too, like, it's telling me I should go this fast. I'm like, I don't think you're right. I think my brain is smarter. Cause I obviously have no data that I'm backing it up with.
00:43:38
Curt
Like, so I'll tweak it.
00:43:39
jamie peacock
Dude, I'm running.
00:43:40
Curt
I'm like, that's stupid.
00:43:42
jamie peacock
So I was running a one millimeter in mill at 76 millimeters a minute for the longest time. I put it through pretool 300 millimeters a minute.
00:43:49
Curt
Okay.
00:43:53
Curt
Oh, it's up there. That's up there.
00:43:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, machine. The tool doesn't fucking break. And there's something before it fucks out, it doesn't break. And I'll machine two or 300 parts on a tool.
00:44:05
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:44:06
jamie peacock
Like, Retool gives you some pretty good starting points, especially in aluminium.
00:44:11
Curt
I think I just got to run that through and just make like a titanium, like, or ah sorry, it aluminum, like,
00:44:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:44:18
Curt
variant. So I'm like, okay, so I'm not wasting time on fixtures. No, it doesn't really matter, but still, it's just like, why not watch it go faster? it can do it.
00:44:25
jamie peacock
So, so I'm going to be building out my tool library a bit more now. So the customer that wants us to do all the tool steel work, they're like, can we hold off on getting a new machine for like a month or two?
00:44:36
jamie peacock
um For now, can we run like, we will supply squared blocks, it's light pocketing and holes. I'm like, yeah, sure, we'll do that on the LK. I'm like, you guys need to shell out.
00:44:45
Curt
Hmm.
00:44:46
jamie peacock
I need to tool up. Like, and I need to go buy another 10 or 11 ER holders to put all the drills in because currently I'm just running my uncoated aluminum drills ah slower in tool steel.
00:44:59
jamie peacock
I'm like, no. Going forward, we need to tool up for steel. Have our 400 series library that is just all the steel tools are pre-configured. When I need them, I load them and I go. So I'm now going to buy another probably 20 tool holders or so.
00:45:13
jamie peacock
for the LK.
00:45:14
Curt
Nice.
00:45:15
jamie peacock
I want to buy a bunch of the DC ones for the smaller stuff and then a bunch of ER like cheap ERs for drilling.
00:45:23
Curt
Nice. Yeah, that's a good way to go.
00:45:23
jamie peacock
Yeah. But yeah, I had a yeah had a job this this week tool mild steel.
00:45:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:29
jamie peacock
Probably removed 80 kilograms of steel with half feed.
00:45:34
Curt
Oh, wow.
00:45:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was fucking hard. and Then I looked at the I'm like, who the fuck drew this? And the guy's like, no, his brother drew I'm like, euthanasia. fucking euthanize this motherfucker because there's now an 80 millimeter step and they want the hole drilled.
00:45:45
Curt
Thank you.
00:45:49
jamie peacock
So my standard length 8.5 drill could reach but couldn't drill very deep. So I drilled two millimeters deep on all these holes.
00:45:59
jamie peacock
Then I took another one of those drills, an older one, put it in the lathe, turned it down to six millimeters so it could go into an ER11 collet because the hole was 10 millimeters off the wall so I could reach down on the collet nuts had half a miller clearance.
00:46:14
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:46:15
jamie peacock
So fucking done. But yeah, made a plan, got the job done. But I'm like, who the fuck does designed this? Just take them out back, please. What the fuck?
00:46:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:23
jamie peacock
um
00:46:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, stupid, stupid. And that was fucking super urgent. We sent to someone they've had no power for a week we need like tomorrow.
00:46:33
Curt
yeah yeah
00:46:34
jamie peacock
So yeah, and then I fucking used My shunk hydraulic with a 12mm 3 flute to machine the ends. Dude, silent. Silent.
00:46:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:45
jamie peacock
40mm depth of cut. Fucking magic.
00:46:50
Curt
think ah I think when I get the anchor points swapped over to my system here, because then I can buy a shorter holder. cause all my Every one of my holders is like a 100-millimeter gauge length because it's ah like a drill tap machine.
00:46:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:05
Curt
so um Once I have all that stack up, I'll be a lot closer. um I'm going to buy, I think, just like for my roughing tool, I'm going to buy a hydraulic just to see how it fares.
00:47:14
jamie peacock
roughing tool your one
00:47:15
Curt
So, well, my roughing tool. Yeah. Hey, like it, it still gets eaten up with time. Like it's, I've got the feed rates now that I'm like, I'm like, yeah, it's, it's happy where it is.
00:47:25
Curt
So i'm like, I'm curious if a better, and and now I'm like, I think we talked about in the past podcast of like buying better tools and better coatings. like, oh, it's actually noticeably different now. So try a different holder and see if that helps.
00:47:34
jamie peacock
yeah so i got a quote on i got quote on the shunk travel set again um
00:47:40
Curt
Hmm.
00:47:41
jamie peacock
Because my thought was put that in the ER, get it running concentric, and like tap it until it's running nicely, and then just never take it out of the ER collet. And then just tribose the open ends. So, got a quote on a tribose set. It's like $1,000 for five of them.
00:47:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:57
jamie peacock
They go into a 12mm holder. like, yeah, not quite rich enough yet.
00:48:03
Curt
Yeah. Fair. In time.
00:48:03
jamie peacock
Because I would put my 6mm ball my my three millimeter square mill, my four mill square mill, and my two millimeter square mill into those.
00:48:16
jamie peacock
And then they're quick to change.
00:48:17
jamie peacock
If I need to change out one of the ball mills, just pop it in the tribus unit, tighten the screws, swap it out, and carry on with your day. So, and then you know it runs out perfectly.
00:48:17
Curt
Right.
00:48:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:26
jamie peacock
Because that, yeah, becomes an issue on smaller tools.
00:48:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:32
jamie peacock
So, it becomes a huge issue.
00:48:32
Curt
Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.
00:48:35
jamie peacock
So, just trying to constantly improve, but also trying not to spend a fucking fortune on random shit.
00:48:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:41
Curt
Dude, it's easy. It's so easy. Yeah.
00:48:43
jamie peacock
It's very easy. I want to go to the DC-8 collard holders now for my 6mm end mill because the DC-6, I'm seeing deflection because it's so skinny.
00:48:54
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:48:55
jamie peacock
If I go to town, I can, there's measurable deflection.
00:48:55
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:48:58
jamie peacock
So i want to go to a slightly bigger one and that should solve that issue. ah
00:49:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:03
jamie peacock
and then move a whole bunch of my tools over to those as well because they're also super, super cheap. I just have to order two tools at a time because of like one of this model and one of this model because if I try put two of the same model in my cart, the price goes stupid.
00:49:15
jamie peacock
So it's just lots of little orders and then it works.
00:49:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:19
Curt
Yeah. I love those i love those holders.
00:49:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. No, they work really, really well. Like I actually stuffed my first collars up by the other day.
00:49:25
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:49:26
jamie peacock
I chip welded and got it full of aluminum. So I just took it and threw it in the bin because I bought five of them.
00:49:34
Curt
I found those, the cheap DC holders, uh, for, especially for my small tools, um, like one eighth and smaller.
00:49:34
jamie peacock
And yeah. Yes.
00:49:41
Curt
Uh, I find that, uh, they hold like, cause I have the few of those Haas, one eighth shrink fits and the DC, the DC holders are tighter. Like they are more concentric than the, the, uh, heat shrinks, which is crazy because the heat shrinks should be great, but they're not that great.
00:49:56
jamie peacock
So I run my six millimeter that I use to do the bores, like all the precision stuff in motion. And when I swap that end mill out, I comp it up, do a thing, mark the size, get my size back to where, like adjust my wear.
00:50:11
jamie peacock
It's the same value every single time.
00:50:14
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:50:15
jamie peacock
And I'm like, that's what I want.
00:50:15
Curt
that
00:50:16
jamie peacock
I want consistency. I don't want to have to worry, is the thing running true because it's an ER collar? Like, fuck that. um
00:50:23
Curt
Yep.
00:50:23
jamie peacock
I've got some ER collards that run dead nuts, but they're not all like that. the problem is if you grab the wrong one, your tool life goes to shit.
00:50:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:32
Curt
Yeah. No, totally.
00:50:33
jamie peacock
So yeah, constant improvement, spending money.
00:50:37
Curt
That's the deal. Yeah. Hey, speaking of spending money, I almost bought a Kern.
00:50:41
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:50:42
Curt
ah So yeah, um actually Grimmo sent me the link. There was a Kern for sale out of a university, from what I can tell, ah in Calgary, which is like three hours south of me.
00:50:57
Curt
um And it was one of their old, like, ah the little red ones with, they're all red, but i'm with the little a little round, like, the cylinder door. And from what... the the There was no details on the listing. You didn't know if it were... Like, it just said non... Like, they couldn't power it up, so they don't know anything about it.
00:51:14
Curt
And then whoever took the photos took photos of the dumbest things. Like, they took a few nameplate photos, but, like, here's a picture of, like... the end of a power cord. I'm like, ah well, like, i don't know where that cord goes to doesn't matter.
00:51:25
Curt
And like, here's a corner of the machine. It's like, take a picture of something useful. Like, what are you shooting these dumb photos for?
00:51:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:32
Curt
Like, shoot the table, shoot the spindle.
00:51:32
jamie peacock
heaven
00:51:34
Curt
Like anyways. Um, Someone also messaged me because it was when I saw the listing, there was six hours remaining on it and it was at three thousand dollars. um So i was like, oh, I'm like, I might just have to throw a bid on this. And ah so then anyways, another guy messaged me because I messaged it to a few other people and he messaged me. He's like, I think I have some knowledge on this one. He's like, I believe it's 100 spindle.
00:51:56
Curt
um He's like, if it's the one I think it is. Yeah. So but it didn't have a tool changer. It's just a single tool. um It was. So much, so hard to tell. i think it was full five axis. um Very tiny work envelope. Probably, you know, like, I don't know, maybe like a 50 millimeter cube, 100 millimeter cube when you consider like everything that's moving.
00:52:16
Curt
um Anyways, end of the day, ah I was looking at it i was like, I don't need a project. Like I'm gonna have to buy this and i have to go down there and have to load it. And then I don't know if it works. i have to bring it here. And like it came with, the reason I think it also has 100K spindles, like it came with like accoutrements that were like,
00:52:32
Curt
four feet by like six feet by four feet was just like one part to run it. And like it had the hide and hide control. And like, it was really cool. It ended up going for 5,000 bucks. Um, kind of kicked myself for not buying it, by the same time, i'm like, I don't need a $5,000 project sitting here in my workshop to like, what am I going to use it for? Like, it's really cool to have, but like without a tool changer, it's not super useful to me. And like,
00:52:55
Curt
Five axis, yeah, it's cool, but five axis with that a tool changer, and like you can put a tool changer in there, but then you go look at buying parts from Kern, and you're like, ha-ha, okay. That's going to absolutely blow the budget. so Anyways, it's kind of cool, but I'm happy.
00:53:08
jamie peacock
yeah I think there's a lot of those machines and universities and things yeah
00:53:12
Curt
Yeah, I... I priced them out. They typically go for like between $20,000 and $30,000 US. um u So $5,000 was a steal, but yeah, like I said, I don't need it.
00:53:22
jamie peacock
but you don't want to project yeah it would have been cool then you would have had a Kurt and a Kern
00:53:24
Curt
No, I don't need a product. It would have to have a Kern, but like, nah. So...
00:53:32
Curt
Well, and the problem is the the person who bought it, like the first initial was C dot something. So then a bajillion people sent me messages they're like, did you buy it?
00:53:36
jamie peacock
Oh,
00:53:40
Curt
i was like, no, no, I didn't buy it.
00:53:41
jamie peacock
that's
00:53:42
Curt
No. So, yeah, it's cool.
00:53:45
jamie peacock
funny. ah Yeah, so there was a trade show this week.
00:53:50
Curt
Ooh.
00:53:51
jamie peacock
Yes. The high tech machine tool trade like that, a mini expo thing at the at the facility. So they had about that a bunch of Mazacs because they're the Mazac agents.
00:54:03
jamie peacock
And then that shunk demos, and all the things i was playing with the magnetic work holding from shunk. Really cool. um They're trying to sell half a mill, but no. the Harper Mulder is just absurdly expensive.
00:54:16
jamie peacock
They had some one meter long Mazak machines with a fourth axis for not exorbitant amount of money, um for what it is, $135,000.
00:54:28
jamie peacock
One travel, remember, I think it was a 10 or 12K spindle, fourth axis, nice machine.
00:54:31
Curt
Okay. Yeah. Reasonable.
00:54:39
jamie peacock
And then they also had a five axis. So I got price on five axis because I could.
00:54:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:43
jamie peacock
one does but actually bringing in a different version of it that has got symmetrical travels so this one's travels about the platter are not symmetrical it's like offset to the one side i was like that's really interesting uh the new one that bringing in is symmetrical but yeah i had a long chance then they're actually coming past so they're
00:54:44
Curt
Nice. Oh,
00:54:57
Curt
okay.
00:55:04
jamie peacock
the The demo parts they were machining were actual products that the ah the owner's son sells. So he's one of the salesmen there. So it's actually stuff he does on the side.
00:55:13
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:55:14
jamie peacock
So I'm like, and what you they showed me on a sandblast. like, why don't you tumble these? They're like, no, we don't have to tumble. like, come visit me next week. We'll throw them in the tumbler and talk shit for 15 minutes while they tumble. And let's see what they look like.
00:55:26
jamie peacock
Because they're aluminum parts.
00:55:26
Curt
yeah, yeah.
00:55:28
jamie peacock
I might just try and convince them that I need to machine them for them.
00:55:33
Curt
OK, OK.
00:55:33
jamie peacock
as one does, you know. But I'm going to have them come through, visit the shop while it's still a small shop, and then, yeah, quite looking forward to the big shop.
00:55:44
Curt
That's cool. Yeah, you'll get some space and some.
00:55:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:55:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:46
jamie peacock
need to figure out tables and shelving and stuff, still, I'm going to divide the whole units up, because i obviously want my wall of pallets, but where do I put them?
00:55:53
Curt
Mm
00:55:55
jamie peacock
Do I put them on the wall, or do I put them at the workbench? Like, I'm thinking of buying a... pallet rack, like the the big blue and fucking orange shelves, and then down the middle putting a plywood divider that Carl has one side for lates, I have one side for mills, and then I can put all my pallets on the wall there because it'll look fucking cool.
00:56:06
Curt
hmm. Mm
00:56:12
Curt
hmm.
00:56:15
Curt
That'd be cool. Yeah.
00:56:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, because I'm planning on going rolling desks for Carl and I, like standing rolling desks, that wherever we're working for the day, we can just wheel our desks there.
00:56:24
Curt
Yeah. That's the way to go.
00:56:25
jamie peacock
Because obviously we need to be able to respond to emails and shit.
00:56:26
Curt
I'd say that.
00:56:28
jamie peacock
And then I'll still have an office, but I don't know what PC will be in office.
00:56:34
Curt
Yeah. That's whatever. Pornhub or whatever.
00:56:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, figure it out. Yeah, porn up machine and admin crap, like scanning fucking slips.
00:56:37
Curt
Yeah, totally.
00:56:41
Curt
Totally. Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, my least favorite thing in the world. So what are you minimizing?
00:56:47
Curt
Dude, everything. um So like I put like that minimalist app on my phone a while ago and then I got sick like i don't know a few months ago and I i killed like I stopped the um time limits because like well no I'm doomed scrolling I'm laying on the couch I'm going to be able to anyways never turned it back on ah which is my fault.
00:57:03
jamie peacock
Contributing here.
00:57:05
Curt
And then I looked at my usage time for Instagram and my usage time for like Reddit. And then I was like, I am not happy with the amount of hours that I'm wasting each week into these apps and not gaining as much.
00:57:18
Curt
I'm consuming far more than I'm producing. And, uh, Yeah, so was just like, ah no, so I threw the timers back on those, which has been awesome now. I feel like I have a little bit more of my life back. It's just so much, it's just even being reminded, being like, hey, dude, you spent this much time here. I'm like, ee that's a lot already. I'm like, hey, peace out.
00:57:34
Curt
Find this tomorrow.
00:57:34
jamie peacock
So, yeah, Instagram's timer broke.
00:57:35
Curt
um
00:57:38
jamie peacock
So I've got a 30-minute limit on Instagram. There's an internal timer there.
00:57:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:43
jamie peacock
When I say give me five more minutes, it only gives you one more minute. When you say give 15 more minutes, it only gives you one more minute. So I'm like, what the?
00:57:50
Curt
It's all you get.
00:57:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, like, for fuck's sake, so you give me another five minutes, gives you another minute. But yeah, I use that a lot because otherwise I end up just doom-scrolling.
00:58:00
Curt
Well, and for the longest time for Instagram, like I had to set the limit high enough because like I do so much like just like chatting with customers and stuff through Instagram as well.
00:58:07
jamie peacock
yes yeah sucks yeah yeah
00:58:08
Curt
So I'm like, I'm texting like nine times out of 10. So anyways, I made it so that I can message people on my computer. And honestly, if you jump on Instagram on your computer, it's so much less addicting because like scrolling with a mouse, for some reason, when you just whip with your finger, you can doom scroll for years.
00:58:22
Curt
When you do it on your computer, you're like this is lame sauce. I'm out of here. Um, so that works out really well too. Cause then I just message people. So that's nice.
00:58:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've also put Instagram messaging on my other Instagram pages open on my work PC and i message through there.
00:58:31
Curt
And, uh,
00:58:38
Curt
yeah, yeah.
00:58:39
jamie peacock
It's the way to go.
00:58:40
Curt
And, uh, yeah, that helps.
00:58:40
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:58:42
Curt
Anyways, just kind a bunch stuff out. I like minimize my wallet cause I carry so much that I've made it smaller. I have my little itty bitty notebook that I just keep my pocket for writing shit down. Just like, literally just trying to make everything more simple and I'm happier for it so far.
00:58:53
jamie peacock
this small
00:58:55
Curt
So yeah, less is more. Absolutely. Yeah, exactly.
00:58:57
jamie peacock
That's the thing that pisses me off to no end currently is every store here wants you to have fucking loyalty card. And I'm like, no, the main shop that we use, I can have a picture of the card or from the app, can get to on my phone.
00:59:06
Curt
Yeah. Yep.
00:59:12
jamie peacock
I don't have to carry their card. As it is, I have too many fucking things in my wallet. Like, I'm sorry, I'm not getting a card for each gas station that wants you to have a fucking card.
00:59:16
Curt
Yeah, absolutely.
00:59:21
jamie peacock
I'm like, no. None of your loyalty things are worth anything.
00:59:23
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
Critique of Loyalty and Subscription Models
00:59:25
jamie peacock
I'm paying for it. i was fucking... So i went to dischem the other day to buy meds. To buy, like, cold me medication. So i look at the shelf, it's like, hey, 64 Rand. I'm like, sweet.
00:59:36
jamie peacock
Go to the till, not 89 Rand, because I don't have a dischem card. I'm like, this is fucking unreasonable. I will pay the 89 Rand. I'm not getting your fucking card. Like, I'm sorry, that is just like, fuck you and your stupid card. Like, that is, yeah, absolute dickhead maneuver, trying to force people to have your card.
00:59:55
Curt
I'm with you. Yeah.
00:59:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:59:56
Curt
Oh
00:59:56
jamie peacock
And in that case, you have to have a physical card can't put on your phone. Like, no.
01:00:01
Curt
yeah. It's yeah.
01:00:02
jamie peacock
Just fucking no. Because next thing you ought carry a backpack and carry all the loyalty cards.
01:00:05
Curt
Yep. I'm with you.
01:00:07
jamie peacock
Like, fuck off. Just use AI to too market to me.
01:00:13
Curt
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's I know I'm with you.
01:00:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, like that the thing i so I think I sent it to you of the ARs bidding on on information.
01:00:22
Curt
Oh, dude, that was dystopian.
01:00:23
jamie peacock
Dude, terrifying. Yeah, terrifying.
01:00:25
Curt
Oh, yeah.
01:00:26
jamie peacock
and Be careful what you tell your AR because ah yeah your information is getting sold, friend. If you're not paying for it, you're not the product.
01:00:31
Curt
But.
01:00:32
jamie peacock
but If you aren't paying for it, you are the product.
01:00:33
Curt
the Yeah, that's 100% true.
01:00:35
jamie peacock
And we are all the products.
01:00:36
Curt
Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. We're the product.
01:00:38
jamie peacock
yeah sure you're paying for chat but you're not paying enough like you are still the product like yeah i think i sent you the one about the 2060 where you're wired where the truman show club dude it's so good uh starts advertising to you because you don't know have the wife premium uh
01:00:39
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:42
Curt
No. Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:50
Curt
Yes. Yes.
01:00:57
Curt
Yeah, it's i read a I read like someone's post once again on Reddit um of someone being like the year is 2048. And it's like I can't afford ah water. So my or I'm behind on my Bezos bucks.
01:01:13
Curt
So my water has turned slightly poisonous and I have no money or I went to go use my pliers to pull my molar out to sell it for more Bezos bucks, but realize my plier subscription is now up so I can't use it.
01:01:25
Curt
And just like, I guess later I'll go to the ad theater because I could probably watch five hours of ads to pay for my, and it's just like, oh my God, this is ragged, but it's like, it's not.
01:01:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, dude. Yeah.
01:01:35
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:01:35
jamie peacock
Yeah. John and I were chatting this week about fusion and alternatives for fusion CAD cam and stuff. I'm like, dude, it is what it is like, we missed the opportunity to revolt.
01:01:47
jamie peacock
When they started the shit in like 2015 2016 with AutoCAD that it's no it's no longer perpetual license, you have to pay every year, we should have fucking revolted and we did it.
01:01:49
Curt
yeah
01:01:56
jamie peacock
We've missed our opportunity.
01:01:58
Curt
ah
01:01:59
jamie peacock
Because now everything's a fucking surface.
01:02:02
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:04
jamie peacock
who I pay now and watch this movie let me pay my monthly subscription or I can't watch it. Like you don't own well.
01:02:10
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:12
jamie peacock
Most people don't own things. My hard drive over there begs to differ.
01:02:15
Curt
yeah
01:02:19
jamie peacock
da
01:02:19
Curt
yeah
01:02:22
jamie peacock
It's sad how we've just fucking accepted that that is the status quo.
01:02:27
Curt
Some but companies are, full I've noticed some companies now are starting to flip back because know so many people rail against it.
01:02:27
jamie peacock
software as a service
01:02:32
Curt
I've seen a few companies pop and be like, hey, buy a lifetime, like buy your lifetime access. I'm like, ooh, I've seen more of those. So i don't know.
01:02:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:40
Curt
It's probably not the way it's going to go, but whatever.
01:02:41
jamie peacock
No, probably not. But again, I don't mind paying for Fusion because the amount it costs in proportion to the amount it makes, it's a no-brainer.
01:02:50
Curt
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
01:02:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:51
Curt
Yeah, Fusion's not on my hit list.
01:02:52
jamie peacock
Absolutely no-brainer.
01:02:53
Curt
Yeah, they're they're fine.
01:02:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:54
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:55
jamie peacock
But yeah, some of the other stuff is on my fundamentalist. Software as a service sucks. That's why my ERP is locally hosted I control it.
01:03:04
Curt
Yep.
01:03:05
jamie peacock
because otherwise yeah you yeah I'm not a fan of having shit in the cloud like that clouds float away
01:03:06
Curt
I vote for that.
01:03:16
Curt
ah Cool. Well, you wannado the Google boxes?
01:03:17
jamie peacock
okay cool yeah yeah what's in your Google box oh Kurt are you going for Grimmsmo yeah first thing in your Google box
01:03:21
Curt
ah
01:03:26
Curt
What? Where? Why? Who? Where? When?
01:03:31
Curt
Oh, that was just literally because I was looking at that little kern. So... And like, that's a problem is Kern didn't name that little machine. Like the little mill was like, it was the Kern micro.
01:03:41
Curt
So it's like, you look up Kern micro, you're not going to get the right result. You have to like, like old Kern micro, tiny Kern micro. Anyways, that was in there.
01:03:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:51
Curt
It probably does have a name. I'm just not in the Kern clan. So ah bubble mailers versus boxes, flux workholding. I was just asking Ken what he thinks he's going to charge for those.
01:04:02
Curt
I'm not going to say, but I think he'll do well. uh uh the michael's craft store because i was buying pens and i just like to go there and my little people love going there because it's full of markers and crayons and all kinds of fun things and then i was my one my one little human uh was uh having a little meltdown and she was screaming uh like i have nothing and it just brought back i don't know you've ever seen that meme of that girl she's like just absolutely freaking out in a car and it's like i've had nothing and then people like cut it to metal music and so i'd show my wife i'd show my wife that and she was laughing because she was sound she sounded the exact same and i was like what are you losing your mind for a little one but anyways how about you what's in your google book oh yeah what's
01:04:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, a
01:04:42
jamie peacock
little one to a little. ah yo Trying to figure out how to transfer files to an 802D controller over RS232323 whatever it is.
01:04:54
jamie peacock
um Geez, wow. Dungeon, I misspelled that horribly. Dungeon Crawler Carl. I was trying to figure out when the first book was released because there's a bunch of references in there that I was like, these are pretty modern.
01:05:07
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, thoroughly enjoying that book. Googled when Wrecking Ball came out because we were Quiznacht and we were discussing the release of another song that was around the same time. When do you think it came out?
01:05:18
Curt
Okay. Oh, dude, this is going to be rough.
01:05:23
jamie peacock
know.
01:05:25
Curt
I don't even know. I don't know.
01:05:26
jamie peacock
almost a teenager ago August 2013 yeah and then I had zero prints zero point prints open because i was trying to see if they do dovetail boxes because I'm trying to price out the dovetail boxes so I'm trying to just look at market related pricing
01:05:29
Curt
Oh, that hurt. so Oh,
01:05:44
Curt
OK.
01:05:45
jamie peacock
which is something we should probably discuss because I kind of need some advice there.
01:05:46
Curt
Cool.
01:05:49
jamie peacock
But anyway, yeah, that's what's in the Gogglebox. The link we will discuss between shows.
01:05:52
Curt
Oh.
01:05:55
jamie peacock
um
01:05:56
Curt
Cool.
01:05:57
jamie peacock
It'll be there for anyone who wants to look at it. um There'll be more about it in like a week or two.
01:06:03
Curt
I will also say, because I know people on this world are going to have the similar mindset to me, Subnautica 2, if you've ever played Subnautica, it's a fantastic game. Subnautica 2 right now is available on Steam as beta.
01:06:15
Curt
I don't think they're gonna finish it for like another two years, but you can buy the you can buy what they currently have and and play it.
01:06:18
jamie peacock
Okay. The Bay.
01:06:20
Curt
And it's like, yeah, looks freaking awesome.
01:06:21
jamie peacock
Oh, nice.
01:06:23
Curt
So I think I'm goingnna probably do that after the show. Anyways.
01:06:25
jamie peacock
Ooh, yes, that actually reminds me of another after-show topic. um Truders. Okay, cool. There we go.
01:06:34
jamie peacock
saw something interesting that doesn't support my one, so, yeah, anyway.
01:06:35
Curt
Ooh.
01:06:35
Curt
Hmm.
01:06:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, where can people find you and your things, Kurt?
Social Media and Weekend Plans
01:06:42
Curt
you can find my You can find me and my things at confoundedmachine.com. One website with everything that associates with me. You don't have to remember a bunch of weird spellings for it.
01:06:53
Curt
It's spelt like it sounds. Just go to confoundedmachine.com and it'll link to you anything that we've talked about or anything that I'm associated with. How about you, Jamie? How do how do people find your work?
01:07:04
jamie peacock
I'm trying to see if Jamie, Jamie, Jamie is available as a website. I think I might just go that freaking route. Yeah, so you can find the dates of the happenings of the JSPEC shop at jspec underscore engineering on Instagram.
01:07:17
jamie peacock
um You can find shirts, flux, and some other stuff at jspeceng.com. And you can find all the workholding stuff at nauticalwh.com, which I assume there is a link in the doobly-doo.
01:07:30
jamie peacock
It's a pretty big assumption.
01:07:31
Curt
Oh, I typed in...
01:07:31
jamie peacock
but I will check. yeah anyway anyway that's where you find all my stuff what did you no no what did you find
01:07:34
Curt
a Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. um I typed in www.nauticalwh.com in my search bar and hit enter.
01:07:48
Curt
And it took me to the ah Taps and Patients YouTube channel.
01:07:51
jamie peacock
Yes, because AJ has done that.
01:07:51
Curt
So... ah
01:07:54
jamie peacock
He brought up like three different spellings, and they link to their Patreon, to their, to their Patreon, to their webpage and to their YouTube.
01:07:55
Curt
yeah
01:08:08
Curt
And one of them links to you, but it's your spelling. so who
01:08:10
jamie peacock
Yes, my spelling links to me, and my link will link to me. ah Yeah, when he's, when he's done with this joke, he said he'd forward them all to my site.
01:08:19
Curt
I figured he would, but yeah, I was like, Ooh.
01:08:20
jamie peacock
But for now, it's, yeah, the early access to all the podcasts this week from them, he he was so excited to do his Patreon read, where he just read out nautical workholding.
01:08:31
jamie peacock
Nautical workholding? Nautical workholding. It was great.
01:08:35
Curt
That's awesome. That's awesome.
01:08:36
jamie peacock
Yeah. So I think I might just do like a landing page or something to make my life a bit simpler.
01:08:41
Curt
Might be easier easier. Yeah, might be the easiest way.
01:08:43
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, I think it is actually all at josepeckeng.com.
01:08:45
Curt
But
01:08:46
jamie peacock
Like, there's links to everything.
01:08:49
Curt
honestly, now that like I seriously, like if I was going to nautical workholding, I'm not going to go to your site.
01:08:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:08:54
Curt
I just Googled it and it pulls up, at least on my end.
01:08:56
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:08:56
Curt
That doesn't mean mean it does for everybody.
01:08:57
jamie peacock
No, it does. I've got its index with Google. That took a ah fair bit to get figured out, but I got it working eventually.
01:09:04
Curt
Ah, cool.
01:09:05
jamie peacock
Yes. What are you up to today, Kurt? Oh, tomorrow.
01:09:09
Curt
ah Uh, tomorrow's, I guess it's going the long weekend. So, um, I don't, yeah, sorry.
01:09:13
jamie peacock
Oh, you have a little weekend. Nice.
01:09:16
Curt
Oh yeah. May long weekend here. So, um, usually i would go out and do things cause everybody goes camping, but the weather hasn't been fantastic. So everyone's in town still. So i don't know what I'm going to Maybe go to the park or don't think I'm going to do a lot of work tomorrow.
01:09:27
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:09:28
Curt
Maybe a little bit of work. I'd like to work on those pallets a little bit more, but we'll see.
01:09:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:09:32
Curt
you We'll see what the, the, uh, family has in store.
01:09:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:09:36
Curt
How about you? What do you have ah going on today?
01:09:38
jamie peacock
I'm going to go run a thousand operations today.
01:09:42
Curt
Yeah.
01:09:43
jamie peacock
Yeah. I'm going to go stand at a lathe for fucking the entire day to run 750 those and then 250 of them on the hundred and fifty of them on the LK, but I want to get that done today so it's off the books and fucking finished, and then I can carry on with other stuff. The problem with that many operations is I can do nothing else, because it's like one-minute op for the first op, and then it's a 30-second op for the second 500 op, second batch of 500, and then like 49 seconds for the the last 250. So it's going to be a long-ass day of standing in front of a machine and listening to Dungeon Crawler Call.
01:10:20
Curt
That's on my short list to listen to. so
01:10:23
jamie peacock
Dude, I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I need to acquire the second book um because I'm going to be done with this one in like not very long. Very, very interesting premise and um I'm thoroughly enjoying the book. Yeah, I've got five hours left on it.
01:10:37
jamie peacock
um Yeah, thoroughly, thoroughly enjoying it. And that's where I haven't got to part yet where AJ's robot got named, but I assume that's coming shortly.
01:10:47
Curt
Cool. Yeah, I'm excited to listen to it.
01:10:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, but yeah, it's a really, it's ah it's a very interesting series. Like, Yeah, thoroughly thoroughly enjoying it. did is of the I was fucking pissing myself laughing at some of the scenes yesterday.
01:10:59
jamie peacock
Because it's also
Enjoying Media and Content
01:11:00
Curt
Nice.
01:11:01
jamie peacock
it.
01:11:02
jamie peacock
It sounds like it's read by Buzz Lightyear.
01:11:06
Curt
Oh, cool. Okay.
01:11:06
jamie peacock
Whoever fucking voiced Buzz Lightyear.
01:11:06
Curt
Okay.
01:11:08
jamie peacock
I don't think it is but similar tone. But then there's all the other characters voices and fucking hell some of them are great.
01:11:16
Curt
Oh, good. Awesome. Okay.
01:11:18
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's a really good listen. um Yeah, finished Artemis. I re-listened to Artemis. Artemis is actually a really good book. look It's a really good story.
01:11:25
Curt
I liked it.
01:11:26
jamie peacock
I thoroughly enjoyed it, like, listened to the second time. um And Project Hail Mary is apparently out or available for streaming somewhere way or renting, so I have acquired a copy of that, so I'll be watching that at some point.
01:11:39
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:11:40
Curt
Interesting.
01:11:41
jamie peacock
Very. Oh, also, Cletus McFarlane on YouTube.
01:11:42
Curt
Interesting.
01:11:48
jamie peacock
I know you've ever seen this stuff.
01:11:48
Curt
Okay. Okay.
01:11:49
jamie peacock
He's got a little debilts jet boat and does car racing and stuff. They do boat challenges every now and again. And they just released their the latest $1,000 boat challenge made out of stuff from Home Depot, except they put a 50 horsepower motor on the back.
01:12:05
Curt
Oh
01:12:06
jamie peacock
They didn't finish the challenge because the one-oak fucking knocked his nose off and the other guy got a concussion from flying into the front of the boat because they were going along at the bottom of the boat detached.
01:12:18
Curt
Oh no.
01:12:18
jamie peacock
So they were doing like 30 miles an hour and all of a sudden the boat fucking stopped.
01:12:18
Curt
Oh no.
01:12:22
jamie peacock
And like there's a picture of those legs in the air as he went over.
01:12:22
Curt
oh
01:12:25
jamie peacock
I kid you rough. But yeah, really interesting to like I enjoy his stuff like the the cheap boat challenges and things like that. I really enjoy their content. And there's like an hour and a half hour and two hours to about two hours of content content on this challenge like three video series.
01:12:44
Curt
Cool, cool.
01:12:44
jamie peacock
But yeah, like really, really, yeah, the Oaks really fucked themselves up. But other than that, it was a really good series.
01:12:52
Curt
Nice, nice.
01:12:52
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, like they were doing their first, they were doing the first of the challenge, the drag race, and yeah, they were cruising and the bottom of the boat just detached and acted as a giant fucking, well, in that case, hydro brake and stopped the boat fucking dead.
01:13:06
Curt
Oh, yeah.
01:13:08
jamie peacock
yeah, it was, yeah, they then turned around and were ambulances and helicopters and all that fun stuff. But anyway, um yeah, thank you everybody for listening.
01:13:15
Curt
Nice.
01:13:18
jamie peacock
Hope you enjoyed the podcast. If you did, consider sharing with someone who you think will enjoy it. Also, rate, like, subscribe, all those things. It turns out a lot more people watch video than I thought. Someone was saying I looked really wrecked last week.
01:13:29
Curt
Ooh.
01:13:30
jamie peacock
One of the guys on the Taps and Patience Discord because I was really wrecked last week from the wedding.
01:13:33
Curt
Hmm.
01:13:37
jamie peacock
But yeah, thank you everybody and we'll see you next week.
01:13:41
Curt
Take care all.