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Ep. 69: Insert Innuendo Here
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In this absolutely respectable and definitely clean Episode 69 of the Lone Machinist Podcast… things go off the rails in under 2 minutes.
We kick things off with Curt accidentally spending what could’ve been a small mortgage payment on sticker equipment, because apparently “I can make my own stickers” is a perfectly valid financial strategy. Meanwhile, Jamie goes full outdoorsman, hosting a bachelor party that involves mud drifting, bass fishing domination, and aggressively avoiding anything resembling a normal bachelor party.
Somewhere in between:
- A vinyl cutter that definitely didn’t fall off a truck (probably)
- A fishing trip that cured burnout better than therapy
- CNC projects that make you question your life choices
- A Masso retrofit that somehow actually worked
- And just enough questionable jokes to remind you… yeah, this is Episode 69
Also, we tried to keep it civil.
We did not succeed.
If you like machining, bad decisions, and the kind of conversations that start technical and end with “how did we get here?”, you’re in the right place.
Come for the CNC talk
Stay for the chaos
Leave wondering why anyone owns this many stickers
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Transcript
Introduction and Main Topics
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Loan Machinists, where it's just you, the work and the machines. What you got going on today, Kurt?
00:00:06
Curt
ah Today I'll talk about how copy paste would have saved me 300 bones, ah buying a vinyl cutter, and robust production means that I get to play.
00:00:19
Curt
How about you? what are going to talk about?
00:00:21
jamie peacock
We're going to talk about CNC-ing my grander.
00:00:27
jamie peacock
Masso! exclamation point And then I was on Taps and Patience.
00:00:32
Curt
Yes, ah I listened to that up episode.
00:00:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:00:33
Curt
That was a good one.
00:00:35
jamie peacock
Yes, we rambled a lot. Jacob cut a lot out of that episode because at one point AJ ran off to go fetch something.
00:00:39
Curt
Oh, really?
00:00:41
jamie peacock
So I was doing the Kurt and singing.
00:00:44
Curt
Oh, no. ah
00:00:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was great.
00:00:46
Curt
I couldn't hear the cut, so.
00:00:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, know that he he did a banger job with cutting it. It was super smooth. Like, I know what happened. That's the only reason I know there was a cut there.
00:00:55
Curt
m I see.
00:00:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, but that was ah yeah was a pretty solid recording. i thoroughly enjoyed that.
00:01:01
Curt
I just like, I like to ask you one question about like, ah, it was, it was about like plan B's for your shop or something like that.
00:01:06
jamie peacock
ah yeah. Yeah.
00:01:07
Curt
And you just like, you went like off one train track onto another, onto another, onto another. And AJ is like, so to answer for you. And I was like, it's just like, let's go back the three roads to the original questions.
00:01:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Humorous Life Options Discussion
00:01:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, Dylan from Got Chips reached out. it like because He asked the question. he's like, I love the answer. Hookers. I'm like, there's a will, there's a way.
00:01:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:31
jamie peacock
I'll go be a hooker if I have to.
00:01:33
Curt
Yeah, um I suppose, yeah.
00:01:36
jamie peacock
There's always options. Especially if you're a semi-competent human, there's always options.
00:01:38
Curt
Yeah, no doubt.
00:01:42
Curt
That's kind of what I figure when people people say ask the same questions. Like, I don't know, I'll go flip burgers.
00:01:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:01:47
Curt
Like, there's always something you can do as long as you have the impetus to do it, you
00:01:49
jamie peacock
It's always something. Yeah.
00:01:52
jamie peacock
the willingness to do it a like yeah like 50 bucks is 50 bucks brie
00:01:54
Curt
Totally, yeah, exactly. and That's another joke to that, but we'll leave that one be.
Vinyl Cutter and Creative Investments
00:02:02
jamie peacock
yes yes i i forgot we're trying to be uh we're trying to be civil this episode yes we were less than two minutes in and then uh jamie's ruining it nice so i saw bought a vinyl cutter
00:02:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:02:07
Curt
Yes, it's going to be a perfectly clean episode for episode 69.
00:02:14
Curt
ah cool
00:02:19
Curt
Oh, dude, this is the problem with me and Marketplace.
00:02:21
jamie peacock
It's super cute. Yeah.
00:02:23
Curt
It's cute. It is cute. um i I wanted one. like I looked at it at least like six months ago because I was like, I'm going my own stickers, which is the dumbest thing to possibly do. And then anyways, here we are. And I have all the shit that I had on my to-buy list. I now own it all. I own the printers. I own the all the vinyls and laminates and Excuse me, i even own the vinyl cutter because some guy on Marketplace posted the one I wanted and it was like half price and was brand new.
00:02:49
Curt
I was like, did this fall off a truck or something? And ah the guy was just like, kind of one of us kind of people was just like, no, it was an impulse buy. And he's like, now I want to buy more lasers. And he's like, I have to get rid of it. And i was like, sick.
00:03:01
Curt
So took it off his hands and
00:03:02
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:03:05
Curt
Yeah. And I mean, I like my little people, they love stickers. Like nothing, nothing excites them more than stickers. And the fact that now i can take their artwork and scan it and then make them their own stickers just is like blowing their minds.
00:03:16
jamie peacock
that's cool.
00:03:17
Curt
I'm like, yeah, can take it and it can make you a one hundred of these and you can like give it to all your friends. And they're like, what? So it's, yeah, that's my excuse to buy one. um I don't know I'll talk more about that, but it's been awesome.
00:03:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. Valid excuse, I like it.
00:03:31
Curt
ah yeah Why not, right? like you have tough I enjoy that, so like sometimes he's going to have fun. so
00:03:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, not a hundred percent.
00:03:36
Curt
Whatever. i've notice
00:03:37
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, no, we don't discuss those things.
00:03:39
Curt
I've probably spent like ah close to $1,000 just sticker shit now, so that would have literally kept me in stickers probably for the next like i don't know year or two. of But let's not talk about the financial responsibilities of that decision.
00:03:53
jamie peacock
we don't we don't discuss those
00:03:53
Curt
So...
00:03:55
Curt
No, no.
00:03:56
jamie peacock
those things
00:03:58
Curt
Tell me about, ah let's see, going to pick on your list of fun.
Bachelor Fishing Trip Highlights
00:04:01
Curt
ah
00:04:02
jamie peacock
got a pile of them yesterday.
00:04:03
Curt
Tell me about your fishing trip yeah because we're we're recording at a different time because Jamie went to go catch fish.
00:04:06
jamie peacock
Yes. So we had a bachelor's. um But having chatted to the bride and groom, ah sorry the bride being my cousin and the groom being Carl, we're like, we want to just go have fun. like So we actually, I left, had to organize the bachelor's.
00:04:26
jamie peacock
I left it to the week, we organized it on the Tuesday, We went fishing on the Saturday. So only the people who are actually going to put an extra effort were going to come.
00:04:34
Curt
Okay.
00:04:37
jamie peacock
So of the like, it was only like 12 people that were invited, six pitched up, including me, um which is great.
00:04:37
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:04:44
jamie peacock
That's what we wanted. We didn't want randos there just wanting to get drunk. We were there to fish and just have a good time. So Carl and I went through six o'clock in the morning on Saturday because we could be there from six. We could only get into the chalet things at like eight.
00:04:58
jamie peacock
So we went through it stormed on Friday night, like it fucking buckets of down here. It was still drizzling when we left on Saturday morning. And we got there to say, hey, am I going to be able to get to the back in my little truck?
00:05:12
jamie peacock
And he's like yeah, you should be fine. Just when you get to the dams, turn off because the last stretch of the road is really not nice. oh like I like, okay, cool, no worries. So we get there. Dude, I was Tokyo drifting that shit in the mud.
00:05:23
jamie peacock
Like, it was great.
00:05:24
jamie peacock
But yeah, went to fish the back dams at this place and then went, set up in our chalet, put some carp lines in the water. Didn't catch anything on them in the morning. Then my cousin's ex-husband came because he was invited because they friends.
00:05:24
Curt
Thank you.
00:05:38
jamie peacock
And one of Cole's childhood of friends came through. We made a fire, made some hot dogs and whatnot. And my cousin's ex husband was like here's a bottle of cactus jack call. You will now call us boss and sir.
00:05:53
jamie peacock
And you will only drink with your left hand. If you don't, you get to drink out the bottle. He clapped that bottle by two o'clock.
00:05:58
Curt
wow
00:05:59
jamie peacock
This was at like 10 o'clock. So it pitched up, you finished the bottle by two o'clock. It was great.
00:06:03
Curt
Oh no. Oh no.
00:06:06
jamie peacock
he then yeah, I was like, No, no, I make so I made sure he got fed and kept watered like I don't want to do fucking dying. I don't feel like dealing with those ramifications.
00:06:15
Curt
Sure.
00:06:17
jamie peacock
So we kept him well watered. And then we went for the afternoon fishing session. And then I fucking smoked everyone. ended up like, I caught infinitely more fish than everybody because no one else caught anything.
00:06:29
jamie peacock
I managed to get two bass in a little spillway right by where we were, and then another one at the back, and then another one at the spillway later. And then I got one at the back on the morning. So then we partied. Well, we brought and talked shits and just it was chilled.
00:06:44
jamie peacock
And then we went to bed like, don't know, 10 o'clock.
00:06:44
Curt
Nice. Right. That's cool.
00:06:47
jamie peacock
We're like, okay, fuck it. Carl's now crashing. So we all went, got into the chalets. And then I sat up chatting to one of the one of the other friends till like midnight about TV shows and movies and like, well, it's just, I get along well with them. They're not my like old, old friends. They're Carl's old, like they've been friends since kids, but I get along well with them. So it's nice to work, like to build those friendships.
00:07:08
jamie peacock
And then we woke up in the morning, drove to the back dams, and first cast, got a bass. And that was all we got the whole fucking morning. So again, I'll fish them with an infinitely infinitely more fish than they got.
00:07:23
jamie peacock
But yeah, I know those dams are a little bit weird, like trying to figure out what the fish are doing.
00:07:23
Curt
but That's good.
00:07:27
jamie peacock
So it was fun. It was a a good weekend. I feel fucking, I feel not burnt out anymore. after spending the night at a dam and drinking way too much. Um, um yeah I feel better after it, like a bit more refreshed, because it has been a while since I've taken a break.
00:07:42
Curt
What?
00:07:44
Curt
Yeah. And you, you text me that you're like, oh I'm going to like, I'm like, Oh, have fun at the bachelor.
00:07:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:48
Curt
Like, Oh, we're going fishing. was like, you know what? That sounds about right. Like right now, that sounds like a perfect medicine.
00:07:51
jamie peacock
Dude. Yeah, so it's like we we discussed it, not interested in like going and crawling around drunk like I must have drank about half a bottle of brandy.
00:08:02
jamie peacock
I finished drinking at three o'clock in the afternoon. It was when I had my last drink. So when I went to bed at 10 o'clock, I had a hangover when I went to bed. And I woke up in the morning, I was fresh. I'm like, I woke up at my alarm went to 4.5.
00:08:14
jamie peacock
ah god I got up, made a fire. The one guy wasn't going to come fishing. cool, you're making breakfast. We're going fishing. Bah. Jumped in my little truck, drove to the back dam, and we went fishing.
00:08:21
Curt
yeah
00:08:22
jamie peacock
like Yeah, it's an us it's a nice getaway. And then us it's like right down the road. It also costs like next to bugger all.
00:08:28
Curt
That's cool.
00:08:30
jamie peacock
To get the chalet,
00:08:31
Curt
That's cool.
00:08:32
jamie peacock
To fish is Imperializer. It costs $6 to fish there for the day now, on the weekend. It used to be $3. So it's known as 50 Randam, which is like $3.
00:08:41
Curt
Oh.
00:08:44
jamie peacock
So it was not it is known as 50 Randam in South Africa. My brother was on one of the um one of the forums and someone posted, oh, i got this lack of fish at 50 Randam. He reckons he nearly fell off his chair laughing because I always call it 50 Randam and he thought it was just something I called it.
00:09:00
jamie peacock
No, no, that is the name of the dam. That is what everyone knows it as. And they put the price up. It cost us for four people to stay there for the night was... in the little chalet thing was $48. So it costs you twice as much per person, but you get to fish for twice as long.
00:09:17
jamie peacock
So you may as well just stay over.
00:09:20
Curt
That's so cheap.
00:09:20
jamie peacock
So yeah, so cheap.
00:09:21
Curt
That's so cheap.
00:09:21
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah, there's another security deposit that was more than that. But I got that back. It's like $60 security deposit.
00:09:27
Curt
That's still ridiculous.
00:09:28
jamie peacock
No, it's cheap. Compared to everyone else, this place is free.
00:09:31
Curt
No doubt. Yeah.
00:09:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:32
Curt
Yeah,
Fishing Adventures and Plans
00:09:33
jamie peacock
And then I wanted to catch shrimp.
00:09:33
Curt
doubt.
00:09:33
Curt
Exactly. It all scales, man.
00:09:35
jamie peacock
So half of the reason for this was because i didn't want to spend money on shrimp for fish tank. So I was like, I know there were shrimp in this dam. Come night time, I'll go with my torch and a scoopy net and I'll scoop some shrimp.
00:09:47
jamie peacock
There's no shrimp in the dam anymore. They stocked the dam with tilapia.
00:09:50
Curt
Oh.
00:09:51
jamie peacock
I've caught like 40 little tilapia and they're now in my IPC tote.
00:09:52
Curt
Ah.
00:09:55
jamie peacock
But yeah, I was like, shit, I really wanted to catch shrimp because I know there was shrimp. We've camped there before and caught them. So yeah.
00:10:02
Curt
Right.
00:10:03
jamie peacock
But here we went adventuring and catching little tilapia at night, which means the bass fishing is going to get insane over the next year because now there's proper food source. It's going to become a little lot of food.
00:10:11
Curt
Right. Right. Yeah.
00:10:13
jamie peacock
But it was fun. Anyway, that was Jamie's fishing adventures.
00:10:17
Curt
That sounds like a nice bachelor party. That sounds like a good time.
00:10:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:10:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:20
jamie peacock
Nice and chill. We've become old.
00:10:22
Curt
Totally.
00:10:22
jamie peacock
We don't need to do wild shit.
00:10:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:24
jamie peacock
like We just want to enjoy ourselves.
00:10:27
Curt
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:10:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, and like all the guys who came through fish, so it was a nice chance to just fish and fuck around.
00:10:28
Curt
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:10:35
Curt
Yeah, exactly. I get that. That's awesome. That sounds nice.
00:10:37
jamie peacock
And now, yeah, and now that I've been back there, I'm going to go back there probably this week and fish in the afternoon.
00:10:44
Curt
Nice. Just to unwind.
00:10:45
jamie peacock
Because it's right down the road from my house.
00:10:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:47
jamie peacock
Dude, I can go down there at three o'clock, pay my fucking three dollars to fish, fish till six o'clock.
00:10:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:52
jamie peacock
Like, it's just a a break.
00:10:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:55
jamie peacock
And during the week, no one's there. So you have access to all four dams with pretty much no interruptions. Like, you can fish wherever the hell you want. It's great. Because then I literally throw my rods on my truck.
00:11:04
Curt
Yeah, no, that's that's awesome.
00:11:05
jamie peacock
I drive from spot to spot around the dams.
00:11:09
Curt
That's awesome. That's awesome.
00:11:09
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's fucking sweet. Anyway, that was Jamie's fishing
Printing Quality and Techniques
00:11:13
jamie peacock
trip. So, let's take your one there for you.
00:11:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:19
jamie peacock
Tell me about your absent printer because thinking of replacing mine.
00:11:20
Curt
Let's see.
00:11:24
Curt
So I just have like an Epson EcoTank 2800, nothing like crazy fancy. if If you look at the specs some of these printers, like the DPI that they can print is heinous. It's like 1200 DPI, which is really high resolution.
00:11:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:37
Curt
ah Anyways, I did some tests when i initially bought it on just like regular copy paper. And I was like, eh, whatever. it It seems to print like an inkjet, like nothing outrageous. And I was like, that's I just need forge just like printing packing lists and weird stuff.
00:11:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:50
Curt
um anyways i was like you know what I'm gonna buy some like nice like vinyl like sticker paper and I'm like I'm just curious and like some vinyl or some proper photo paper um and I'm like I'm just curious to see what you can get out of it so I like I tweaked all the settings like you can go in and change you know high quality settings and the paper types and all that shit and I i printed some ah just some stickers and I printed some like other designs and
00:12:06
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:12:12
Curt
i I just for like cross comparison, I printed my exact sticker that I send out for professional printing and the prints coming off this are higher quality than the prints that I'm getting from like professional shops.
00:12:23
Curt
Totally different processes because they're printing on vinyl with like pigment inks versus water-based inks. it's It's not apples to apples, but I was like, holy shit, like it's incredible what you can get for quality out of these two $300 printers. So this is why all the like all the ladies on Etsy, I mean, I've been following so many of those YouTube channels.
00:12:41
Curt
I'm addicted to them right now, but this is why they have like sticker businesses printing these.
00:12:42
jamie peacock
Yeah,
00:12:45
Curt
Cause I'm like, ah like they can't be that good. And i'm like, Oh no, like it's really good quality. You, you lose the, like the longterm waterproof durability cause it's, it's not the right process for, for that.
00:12:55
jamie peacock
but you can also put clear vinyl over it.
00:12:55
Curt
But for, and That's what I did actually. I printed a bunch of them and then I clear laminated them and then I'm running them through my, I put them on a few cups and I'm just running through the dishwasher. Cause like the dishwasher is the nastiest thing that you can like subject anything to even like parts like that.
00:13:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:11
Curt
You've, you probably know that putting parts in a dishwasher can like, and I, especially your residential dishwashers, they're just,
00:13:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:15
jamie peacock
I tend not to put parts in my wife, but sure.
00:13:20
Curt
awesome I'll leave that one. Um,
00:13:21
jamie peacock
Episode 69. Sorry, i couldn't resist.
00:13:23
Curt
ah
00:13:23
jamie peacock
No, I don't. I don't actually have a dishwasher.
00:13:25
Curt
but,
00:13:25
jamie peacock
My dishwasher arrives in like an hour.
00:13:28
Curt
Okay, fair. Yeah, fair. But like, it's the most heinous test.
00:13:30
jamie peacock
Yeah. it's a harsh process.
00:13:32
jamie peacock
It takes shit off mugs for for days. Like it's really.
00:13:32
Curt
And they're like, well, and it's like, even compared to even compared to like commercial kitchens, like a residential dishwasher is usually built more robust because residential people don't like pre wash and like something that you would do in a commercial kitchen, you just like you throw your lasagna plate in there that sat for four days and just expect it to be clean.
00:13:44
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:51
jamie peacock
crusty and expected to be clean.
00:13:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:53
Curt
Yeah, so anyways, yeah, when you laminate them and like i the sticker, I had no hope for it coming out and it came out perfect. i was like, ooh, so I'm just going to keep running it through and see at what point it fails, which is just, yeah, it's fun, fun stuff.
00:14:02
jamie peacock
Alright.
00:14:04
jamie peacock
Because Danica has done that in the past where she's printed stickers for she actually bought vinyl that you can print directly onto with an inkjet.
00:14:11
Curt
Yeah, that's what I have, yeah.
00:14:12
jamie peacock
Yeah. we did that and then we've also done paper stickers and then she puts clear vinyl over it and then puts it in the cricket and has it cut up the perimeters.
00:14:17
Curt
Yep.
00:14:21
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
00:14:21
jamie peacock
So yeah, I might just harass her to do that again. But I think I was looking at the ink tank. i don't know which model I was looking at at macro the other day, but yeah, they were cheap as beans. They were like $120 or Yeah.
00:14:33
jamie peacock
twenty dollars or so
00:14:34
Curt
they're all like the same print heads. Once you get like above the lowest one, they're all the same print heads. The only difference is I think they start like having paper trays that carry the paper, like fax functions and bullshit you don't need.
00:14:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:45
jamie peacock
That one shit you don't need, yeah.
00:14:46
Curt
So, yeah.
00:14:47
jamie peacock
No, it's interesting that you're getting such good quality. Well, having, yeah, I know that because, like, we got stuff printed commercially and you, if you look at it closely, you can see the dots of different colors.
00:14:58
jamie peacock
Like, it's printed comic book style, which is a little bit, little bit tedious sometimes.
00:14:58
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:15:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:04
Curt
And they're probably also printing a 48 inch wide sheet in like, you know, two seconds per pass.
00:15:07
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yes.
00:15:10
Curt
Whereas my little eight and a half by 11 takes like six minutes to make it through.
00:15:14
jamie peacock
But
00:15:15
Curt
It's it's like, dggggg it's super slow, but yeah. Anyway, yeah absolutely.
00:15:18
jamie peacock
that's how you get the maximum accuracy. So it makes sense.
00:15:21
Curt
Yeah, exactly. Totally.
00:15:24
jamie peacock
um
00:15:24
Curt
Totally.
00:15:24
jamie peacock
yeah like my la My laser printer, I need to buy cartridges for it starting to not print super well. So I'll just buy a new toner cartridge and then it's back to being a beast. The laser printers, I think that printer cost me like $40, $50 brand new.
00:15:41
jamie peacock
And each cartridge does like two or 3000 pages and they are like $12 a cartridge.
00:15:41
Curt
Yeah. Right, yeah.
00:15:49
Curt
right yeah
00:15:49
jamie peacock
It's a mono, but that's fine. If I can monogram, I can live with.
00:15:53
Curt
Well, before I had like a CNC machine, I used to like take designs and tile them and then print them for like making airplanes and stuff and then glue them.
00:16:01
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:16:02
Curt
Cause like you don't realize, but like your like standard printer is incredibly accurate. Like it has to be for the way it prints. And like you could print large things tiled out and get incredibly, incredibly accurate, you know, cuts.
00:16:14
jamie peacock
I used to do the same, and then we got an A2 printer at work, and then used to just print full-size plans for planes, all the flight test planes back in the day.
00:16:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:20
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:16:23
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep.
00:16:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:16:27
Curt
Fun.
00:16:27
jamie peacock
awful I love that that's ah that that's a thing.
00:16:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:16:32
Curt
So, uh,
00:16:32
jamie peacock
The dump ship used to pull in pull in our youths.
00:16:36
Curt
yeah, I still do, but, um, tell me about, uh, true.
00:16:38
jamie peacock
Yeah. Not to the same degree.
00:16:43
Curt
Uh, I was stupid mag bases. That one sounds fun.
Custom Projects and Techniques
00:16:48
jamie peacock
So customer come through one of my regular customers is like hey, I've got these three magazines. Can you make these mag bases? The one he wanted me to extend I'm like, dude, extending this thing is not going to be a it's not going to be a thing.
00:16:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:01
jamie peacock
um Because I end up having to reach into the pocket with like a 50 millimeter long six millimeter end like stupid amount of stick out cutting into sharp corners. of like, dude, never mind the outside of the thing.
00:17:12
jamie peacock
I don't have tools long enough because he basically wants to convert ah um it's for an alien or fucking some other weird gun. He wants to convert it into a happy stick, a glock happy stick.
00:17:23
jamie peacock
So like this much longer on the bottom, because it can fit in a 141.25 gauge is what it it means to fit into.
00:17:24
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:17:31
jamie peacock
So we can go longer by like 20 miles. So I made an exact copy of what he gave me. got those finished games on Friday. Is it can you do the extension like want to so i'm going to see if i can get them that they like either dovetail or t slot together and then you put a long pin through so it's in multiple pieces um i'm gonna mess around with that but yeah like dude these long mag bases are fucking dumb and then everything's at an angle because it needs to match the grip so it's machine it's then machine soft jaws at angles so you can machine everything for
00:18:01
Curt
Right.
00:18:07
jamie peacock
Not a fan. Not a fan in the least. But I managed to get it done. i actually need to order soft-jaw material this week because I have no fresh soft-jawes left.
00:18:16
Curt
Ooh.
00:18:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I'm just going to order probably 20 or 30 pieces of material and then just run them through the machine. It takes like four and a half minutes to make a soft-jaw. And just blank out.
00:18:26
Curt
Okay, yeah. yeah
00:18:27
jamie peacock
And I machine all sides on my soft-jaw so they're all reference sides. And then I need to make soft jaws for my new vases as well. I've got one of the little Zendai vases, but I've got the longer one.
00:18:36
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:18:36
jamie peacock
So I need to make some soft jaws that can reach out to make it capable of clamping 100 by 100 square. For when I want to do knife maker method on pallets, I don't have to lift up my two four-inch vases and put them back in the machine just to put the counter balls in.
00:18:44
Curt
Oh.
00:18:51
jamie peacock
It's really frustrating to lift that back up just for counter balls.
00:18:52
Curt
Right.
00:18:55
jamie peacock
So i'm going to make soft jaws on the little Zendai vases for that.
00:18:56
Curt
Right.
00:18:59
Curt
Cute. how are they ah How do those Zendai vices work for soft jobs? I heard the repeatability is kind of garbage.
00:19:06
jamie peacock
It's not that bad. It's like if you didn't come balls, it's fine. um As far as I know, it's about 1000.
00:19:11
Curt
Oh, counterboards. Yeah, sorry.
00:19:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's about 1000 that they shift side to side.
00:19:13
Curt
Yeah. Okay.
00:19:16
jamie peacock
Generally, I just use those for op ones or I will put soft jaws machine flats and then I'll probe the pot.
00:19:16
Curt
Okay.
00:19:24
Curt
Okay. Yeah. Fair. Okay.
00:19:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:25
Curt
That makes sense. Gets around it. Yeah.
00:19:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, gets around gets around the issue. um But yeah, I know AJ uses them. If it's anything that needs to be tighter than a thousandth, he uses his flux vases. Otherwise, he uses those Zendai vases.
00:19:41
Curt
Right. Right. Yeah.
00:19:42
jamie peacock
So yeah, we' we're chatting about it on Taps and Patience.
00:19:42
Curt
Okay.
00:19:46
jamie peacock
We're chatting about workholding and things. and yeah He's like, he doesn't want to op-zero things. I'm like, dude, just op-zero things. It's not the end of the world. If it's on a pallet, you can have it. Do it while you're sleeping.
00:19:57
jamie peacock
And go to dovetail for workholding.
00:19:57
Curt
it's
00:19:59
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:01
Curt
It's funny listening. like like i Like I talk with you every week, but like as we're talking right now, i absorb I absorb half of the things that we say to each other.
00:20:04
jamie peacock
Yes. Yeah.
00:20:08
Curt
I mean, I i get them, but like I usually listen to our podcast again. And then I'm like, oh, that's what Jamie was talking about. and I was stupid. And then the funny thing is when I listen to you on Taps and Patience, I can put my full effort in because, or like, sorry, I don't have my full effort into it, but like, I don't know what's coming next.
00:20:25
jamie peacock
Yes, you have to pay attention.
00:20:25
Curt
So like the way, yeah, the way like I'm, my brain is working is just, it's working better. And when you guys were talking about the little, uh, little like dovetail vases, I was like, I understand like half the shit you were talking about me in like two episodes ago.
00:20:37
Curt
i was like, now I get what you're saying. Like, yeah.
00:20:40
jamie peacock
No, so the dovetail thing, like I need to still finish the design on that. But I think it could be a very interesting way to push a lot more people into dovetail work on.
00:20:46
Curt
Hmm.
00:20:51
jamie peacock
because it's a really powerful work holding technique, but you don't want to spend $250 try it
00:20:52
Curt
Hmm.
00:20:58
jamie peacock
like that's a bit extreme to just i want to try this work holding method so yeah my thought is to sell it with the um with the dovetail cutter so you've got cutter to do like buy a cutter or buy two spare cutters whatever i'll make it as an option and then i because i'm getting the cutters in from china so i'll just bring in like a bunch of cutters and then you can buy it from one place he has a solution give it a try then i'm gonna have to make a video explaining
00:20:58
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:21:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:23
jamie peacock
best practices for if it's a small part of the big part, how to machine the the body to suit what you want to do best. Because if you want to hold a wider dovetail, you want the dovetail sitting on the top of the vast body.
00:21:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:35
jamie peacock
But in your case, where it's a six millimeter block, you actually want to face the bottom, do the dovetail. the dovetail higher up so that the material sits on the bottom of the dovetail on the vase, not the top shoulder because you're not going to have a top shoulder.
00:21:50
jamie peacock
So there's a whole lot of stuff that I'm going to have to make a video explaining for guys so that it's an easy jumping off point.
00:21:50
Curt
Sure, yeah.
00:21:57
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:21:58
jamie peacock
So they're not struggling to do it.
00:22:01
Curt
Well, and then like i like, I think that would do well because like some people are like in like AJ's position where he'd like, he wants to do pallet loading. But like if you had a bunch of these vices, like, yeah, so you had 10 pallets, like you have 10 vices.
00:22:11
Curt
and And honestly, like 200 bucks, even two, 300 bucks of ice. if If I knew it worked, like, yeah, that's, you're going to make it up even at $300 of ice.
00:22:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:20
Curt
That's not a lot of cash for like, let's get to do 10 of them.
00:22:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:22
Curt
So 3000 bucks for vices. It's not heinous. But like, yeah, he said someone in the midland, like like, you know, you're not fully committed and just being able to pay you whatever, a hundred bucks or something like that for ah a little like vice you made up would be pretty sick.
00:22:25
jamie peacock
No, it's not the worst thing the world. Yeah. Yeah, so I...
00:22:35
jamie peacock
but that's the plan. um i think I'm going to try and make a version that is straight up a row compatible. So got the row holes in the bottom already, then you can just slap it onto an row pallets, or you can slap on those and I pallets and put that on the anchor point.
00:22:43
Curt
Ooh.
00:22:50
jamie peacock
Because it'll literally just bolt right up because there's a diverse is a row compatible.
00:22:50
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:54
jamie peacock
So I'm thinking of going along those lines and making it like out of 50 by 50 millimeter bar stock, or having the place cut me 50 by 50 bar stock.
00:22:59
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:23:02
jamie peacock
That'll also give you a bit of better clearance if you're putting it in a fourth axis. because it'll have to be a little bit tall.
00:23:07
Curt
Sure, yeah.
00:23:09
jamie peacock
um So um like I said, still working on the finalizing the design on that. And then we'll we'll see. But I'm targeting a pretty low price on those because there's not a lot of effort.
Production Efficiency and Machine Setup
00:23:19
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:23:19
jamie peacock
It's just going to be 70, 75.
00:23:22
jamie peacock
I might go as far as to anodize them for shits and giggles, like send them out for Anno, just so that it looks cool.
00:23:22
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:23:27
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:23:28
jamie peacock
And then you're obviously going to machine the anodized away. Like I might offer it as, okay, cool. These are the ones for, say, a half-inch dovetail. They're available. And then there's the machine-your-own-adventure version as well.
00:23:41
Curt
Yeah, I...
00:23:41
jamie peacock
Because I think both both can have a place. If you're doing really small stuff, the machine your own adventure one is a better fit. Because especially if you're making stuff out of round bar, you can hold the round machine a dovetail, depending on the size of the round bar, depends on the size of dovetail that you can machine into it.
00:23:59
jamie peacock
Depending like there's a lot of factors in how your part fits into the material.
00:23:59
Curt
Right.
00:24:04
Curt
Right, right, yeah.
00:24:05
jamie peacock
Because that might also be an option for your clips is using round bar not plate.
00:24:10
Curt
ah Yeah, yeah, it would be.
00:24:13
jamie peacock
Like, that's what Saunders is doing for the hard jaws on the inserts for the ModVos. They're having the robot loaded into the jaws, machine the dovetail, pick it up, pick it up, turn it around, slot into the dovetail, and then clamp it again, and then machine it.
00:24:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:24:27
jamie peacock
Like, that's a, and round bar tends to be a lot easier to get than square bar.
00:24:33
Curt
100%.
00:24:33
Curt
I bought some round bar for this like this next gen clip I've kind of briefly talked to you about.
00:24:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:37
Curt
um But same thing, because I was like, I'm buying plate. it It was too big for plate. And then buying like flat bar, it was just the cost went insane. And when you buy round bar, the world is built around round bar.
00:24:47
Curt
And it was just way cheaper and way easier to get.
00:24:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:50
Curt
So, yeah. So, it might be the way to
00:24:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. That's a cunning way to hold round by as well.
00:24:56
Curt
go. Absolutely.
00:24:56
jamie peacock
Because again, you can grip with next to nothing.
00:24:57
Curt
Or else you're trying to pinch it. Yeah.
00:24:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:59
jamie peacock
You can grip with next to nothing.
00:24:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:00
Curt
Yeah. Grab it right on the bottom. and yeah Yeah, Hog Away.
00:25:02
jamie peacock
Not a deal. So, I don't know. We'll we'll see.
00:25:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:06
jamie peacock
I might just decide to make a bunch of standard width dovetails. He has an 8mm. He has a 10mm. He has a 12mm. And then the cost of making those bodies is not going to be excessive.
00:25:16
jamie peacock
If I make 10 of each you put them on the shelf, oh well. I'm not tying up a huge amount of capital work.
00:25:21
Curt
I suppose, yeah.
00:25:23
jamie peacock
So that that might just be the route I decide to go.
00:25:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:26
jamie peacock
But we will see. it's ah It's been a busy week, so I haven't had a chance to work on it.
00:25:33
Curt
Dude, the the the rate of what you get shit done, ah i don't think anyone's I don't think anyone's calling you on on that.
00:25:33
jamie peacock
Busy fishing.
00:25:38
Curt
ah that like Half the things you mention on one podcast and the next one, you're like, I have it made.
00:25:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:42
Curt
I'm like, Jesus Christ, dude.
00:25:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, no. I like to think I have skills.
00:25:49
jamie peacock
Okay, and we back after I went to go fetch cup coffee and let my dogs out. um Yeah, so planning on working the dovetail things at some point. going to add it to my to-do list for today because those things are popping into me and I'm writing it down today.
00:26:01
jamie peacock
um vice um Yeah, I shipped off EJ's anchor points. Some are they still in fucking in South Africa. FedEx are really cocking about, but they should be there this week.
00:26:13
Curt
Nice.
00:26:15
jamie peacock
and then he can play.
00:26:16
Curt
Nice.
00:26:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, also Dylan from Got Chips is working on something, a on a video about the anchor point he's got. So, looking forward to that.
00:26:26
Curt
nice
00:26:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, got got a bunch of them out in the wild. I thoroughly enjoy my anchor points. So, we will see.
00:26:33
Curt
Yeah. a ah I sat down at my computer because I'm like, okay, i'm like i gotta to like I actually have to move forward with this idea of putting the anchor points on my machine. And then I like i looked at the like the plate you had drawn up, like just the double plate um versus like basically the harbor.
00:26:46
jamie peacock
yeah yeah
00:26:49
Curt
um ah And I was just like... Yeah, that's basically exactly what I was like drawing. i was like, it's, it's ah like, obviously you drew for the size of machine I have, but I was like, I can't, I can't draw it better.
00:26:59
jamie peacock
yeah it's a fucking it's a it's a rasa doesn't need to be more than rasa like
00:27:01
Curt
I'm like, yeah, that's basically what ah so, and,
00:27:09
Curt
Well, and then especially after listening to like your podcast and like thinking more about it because you're like, oh, put two on your machine and then you can have room for one in the fourth. And I was like, oh, yeah, smart thing. Or like at least room for like something on the fourth, a shelf on the fourth or whatever I want to do.
00:27:18
jamie peacock
yeah something on the fourth yeah
00:27:21
Curt
So I was like, yeah, two is probably all I need. I don't i don't need to try to squeeze four in there. It's kind of silly.
00:27:25
jamie peacock
yeah no i think squeezing four is a little bit of a it's doable but not necessary
00:27:26
Curt
So.
00:27:32
Curt
No, that's just, yeah, there's no point for the speed at which they actually.
00:27:35
jamie peacock
No points But like I said, we'll do your two anchor points.
00:27:36
Curt
And yeah.
00:27:38
jamie peacock
So your three will not be particularly lang compatible. We'll blow the tolerance on the lang bores. And then the bores, we make a fixed plate to match. And you can drop a mechanical on if you need the extra rigidity.
00:27:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:51
jamie peacock
You can just swap it in and out.
00:27:52
Curt
And I probably never, ever, ever, ever will. So, but it's good to have the option.
00:27:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly. That's the thing.
00:27:58
Curt
So, yeah.
00:27:59
jamie peacock
I'll put a note on it saying ah not LAN compatible.
00:27:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:02
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's nice to have though the features available if you want to use them.
00:28:03
Curt
okay
00:28:08
Curt
Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. No, it's.
00:28:10
jamie peacock
And the yeah, the 96mm hole pattern is great.
00:28:13
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:14
jamie peacock
My pen escaped. Good thing I have a spare. um Yeah, I do. I dig the 96mm hole pattern. It's fucking sweet. It's just, ah yeah, the LAN tolerances are tart.
00:28:25
jamie peacock
It's like... plus 5 plus 13 microns why yeah
00:28:25
Curt
Yeah, that sounds like...
00:28:30
Curt
The only thing I would... Yeah. the ah like I've seen a few guys take... like With their style and put ah their fourth on a lang just so they can take them in and out. and I was like, oh, I should do that. I'm like, why?
00:28:42
Curt
Why? Do I make anything that's that big? like All my parts are smaller than my fist. So I'm like, yeah, let's not add complication to this. So...
00:28:49
jamie peacock
I've got mine, my fourth on a riser plate that's keyed, so I can take it on and off, and then all I have to do is set my, well, reset everything, but it's pretty dang close. I think last time it was out by 20 microns or so in wire from where it was last time.
00:29:02
Curt
Oh, wow. that's That's tight.
00:29:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, like it that repeats pretty damn well.
00:29:05
Curt
That's tight.
00:29:07
jamie peacock
So, okay, that's a freaking key, that's a key slot, but that's it.
00:29:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:12
jamie peacock
So yeah like don't don't overcomplicate it if you don't need to. But yeah, having the mechanical so like having the mechanical that you can drop it into the front iss useful if you want to make a bunch of blank pallets, because then you can clamp down like one of the longers and die vases or something, go to town and not stress about it.
00:29:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:28
Curt
That's true. That is true. Yeah, that is true.
00:29:29
jamie peacock
That would be the only reason otherwise put one vase between two anchor points like make a long pallet and put a vase on that and then you're probably good to go.
00:29:34
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:36
jamie peacock
Like I run two self-centrings like that and fucking go to town and it's never been an issue.
00:29:42
Curt
yeah Yeah. Yep. That is the goal.
00:29:47
jamie peacock
We'll get that sorted out at some point. Yes.
00:29:49
Curt
So yeah, shipping anchor points.
00:29:50
jamie peacock
um
00:29:51
Curt
What else you got here?
00:29:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, we did that one.
00:29:56
jamie peacock
Okay.
Maso Retrofit Projects
00:29:57
Curt
Retrofits. are you are Unless you have something else you want to chat.
00:30:00
jamie peacock
No, no, let's do that one.
00:30:01
Curt
Uh, uh, uh, uh,
00:30:02
jamie peacock
Well, that one and the one above it. yeah So the Maso retrofit that I was doing.
00:30:09
Curt
Yes.
00:30:09
jamie peacock
I don't know if you saw my Google box, it's full of Masso things, because I was there on Friday. That retrofit is effectively done.
00:30:13
Curt
Oh, shit. Oh, no.
00:30:16
jamie peacock
I've got to go there this morning and just go wire up the probe for them, because i sold them a probe.
00:30:19
Curt
Okay.
00:30:20
jamie peacock
um
00:30:21
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:30:21
jamie peacock
It does tool changing. We literally machined the tool changer rack on the machine out of 32 mil plywood. And it bolted we machined the way it bolts on. We machined with the machine and bolted and got it done.
00:30:30
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:30:30
jamie peacock
We're going to make a whole rack that goes up and down. And then we're like, hang on we don't actually need to do Why add complexity? So got it working. Then we're trying to figure out how do you manually load tools? in So like the probe, you don't want the probe in the that it needs to be manually loaded. So the guys don't accidentally use it.
00:30:47
jamie peacock
How do you load a big face mill? Because now we've got pockets that are 25 drops into. So your biggest tool is the diameter of an ER 25.
00:30:57
Curt
Right.
00:30:57
jamie peacock
So we added two additional pockets at the front of the machine that don't exist. So you tell the master, hey, this fly cutter is in sorry position 11 12.
00:31:03
Curt
Right.
00:31:08
jamie peacock
The machine will go drop the tool, of come to the front, pick up an imaginary tool, and then pop. And then you just push the button, and kchunk put your tool in, do what you need to do.
00:31:16
Curt
Right.
00:31:16
jamie peacock
So you can't use those tools in part of the in-process thing, but you can use them to like surface the bed or whatever. So we got all that integrated on Friday. And I'm yeah going there now to finish up. But yeah, there's some interesting, the documentation for Maso is very interesting.
00:31:35
jamie peacock
If you... If you're not actually doing the installation, it looks like there's a lot of documentation and it's well documented. Once you start actually using the documentation, it's a tad lackluster.
00:31:35
Curt
Yeah, yeah it is.
00:31:46
jamie peacock
Like you've got to kind of infer what they're trying to do on a few things. But eventually I got it working. The new spindle is so bought a 5.5 kilowatt ATC spindle for them. It's 1200 hertz. The VFT only goes to 1000 hertz.
00:31:57
jamie peacock
it's a thousand two hundred hertz their vfd only goes to a thousand hertz So they're only getting about 16,000 RPM out of 18,000 RPM spindle.
00:32:03
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:32:07
jamie peacock
But the guy's like, no, that thing doesn't sound like it's at speed. I'm like, no, no, it's a new spindle. It's quiet.
00:32:14
Curt
Right.
00:32:14
jamie peacock
So they're running it.
00:32:14
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:15
jamie peacock
yeah They kept the old spindle. they're gonna They want me to build something that we're going to use that on. um So I'm like, we can buy a new VFT and your VFT is going to be like... what's 600, 6000 Rand, six, seven thousand, so like 400, $500 for a new VFD. And then you'll get full speed out of this thing.
00:32:33
jamie peacock
But I don't think it's something they're going to actually need. So we'll run it for now. And then they can decide later. But yeah, I got that all all the ATC stuff working. It didn't take that long. We had it running by probably two o'clock on Friday.
00:32:46
jamie peacock
And then we decided, let's just build the rack quickly and get this done. so I ended up only getting home at six o'clock on Friday night.
00:32:54
Curt
Oh,
00:32:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, but it's done. I've got to go there this morning and literally wire in a probe and that is it. The cable's pulled. I've got a solder one, like a wire and the ground and 24 volts. That's it. It's done.
00:33:06
jamie peacock
And then, well, and then they wanted a fourth axis.
00:33:06
Curt
nice.
00:33:06
Curt
That's nice.
00:33:09
jamie peacock
So now we're building a fourth axis that drops into the table of the routers. going to machine through the table to below. and then going to have a fourth axis that drops in because i want to do a bigger diameter. Then they have Z clearance.
00:33:21
Curt
Oh, okay. I get you. Yeah.
00:33:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, so we're gonna put together something for them in the coming weeks on that.
00:33:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:26
jamie peacock
But it's not like, i don't mind that customer because he will go and poke through the menus and make machine do shit like he's, he's happy to learn and figure out where you get other customers who just want a working machine.
00:33:38
jamie peacock
And if something doesn't work, they phone you first, whereas he will go and poke shit, break it and then phone me.
00:33:39
Curt
Sure. Right. yeah
00:33:44
jamie peacock
And I'm like, Oh, yeah, and do the thing you did. which i don't like ah I don't mind, he's tried already.
00:33:47
Curt
Right.
00:33:49
jamie peacock
Like, dude, someone just trying to fix something before phoning me is invaluable.
00:33:55
Curt
Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah.
00:33:57
jamie peacock
Like even setting up the tool positions.
00:33:58
Curt
Like.
00:33:59
jamie peacock
I showed him how to do it. If for some reason he breaks the limit switch or whatever, he knows how to adjust it.
00:34:05
Curt
Yeah. Like.
00:34:06
jamie peacock
Because...
00:34:08
Curt
my old day job when we like when I kind of transferred to the role of just babysitter for adults uh same thing the guys like the guys on the floor would like I kind of came to like a shop manager role which is not what I wanted I don't like dealing with people I like robots um regardless uh besides point anyways um people would come to me and be like oh this doesn't work I'm like okay well like
00:34:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Dude.
00:34:28
Curt
pretend I'm not here and go back and just think about how you would fix it. Like how you would potentially come with a, you know, ah come up with an idea and and, then come back to me with that because at least that'll help you think better and supposed to just like me spoon feeding you everything.
00:34:45
Curt
And just like, just teaching people how to think. And it's like, how can you not, and some people it's just, that's the way their brains are wired.
00:34:49
jamie peacock
yeah
00:34:51
Curt
They're just not wired to go. Here's the problem.
00:34:54
jamie peacock
poke with stick yeah dude there's a lot of that like but a lot of people just want to go to their nine five do their thing and fuck off home
00:34:54
Curt
Here's the solution. I did. Yeah. It's just like, people are just like freeze. It's just like,
00:35:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:04
jamie peacock
Whereas I don't think you or I have ever done that.
00:35:04
Curt
I get that. I get that, yeah.
00:35:06
jamie peacock
Like we did nine to five, go home, then build planes till midnight. Like i was chatting someone this weekend.
00:35:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:10
jamie peacock
I'm like, I used to work a seven till, I used to leave home at say half past six, I'd get home at six. We were working seven till 5.30. We worked an hour overtime for like three years, every single day.
00:35:22
jamie peacock
And then I'd come home at 5.30, have had dinner by like 6, 6.30, and then it's RC time. Make RC videos, build shit. Like, dude, there's so many videos on my YouTube channel that I filmed in the evening after work.
00:35:36
jamie peacock
And like I'd work till two like 1, 2 in the morning, go to bed, wake up, go to work. And then the weekend I had Sunday.
00:35:42
Curt
100%. Yeah.
00:35:43
jamie peacock
Like i worked we worked Saturday, every Saturday, overtime. So like for three years we worked overtime six days a week. So you had one day to do your hobby, so you did it in the evenings.
00:35:55
jamie peacock
And it's like, no, I'm like, yeah, I come and inside. i don't want to do anything.
00:35:59
Curt
Well, like my buddy, my buddy at work, you still always say that because same thing.
00:35:59
jamie peacock
Like, a tape.
00:36:02
Curt
I exactly what you described is how I lived my life for years. And he'd be like, dude, he's like, how do you have so much time to do this? I'm like, I don't have, I don't have a wife. I don't have kids. I rent an apartment.
00:36:13
Curt
I just, I come home from work. And then, like you said, till two in the morning, I pissed around with airplanes or do whatever I want to do. then And then I wake up in the morning and I get back to work.
00:36:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:20
Curt
And that's literally the only commitments I have my life.
00:36:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:22
Curt
So changes as time progresses.
00:36:23
jamie peacock
the living the dream. Yeah.
00:36:25
Curt
But yeah, it was, yeah it was awesome.
00:36:25
jamie peacock
Yes. Dude, fucking yeah, your 20s, you got to enjoy them. a
00:36:30
Curt
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:36:31
jamie peacock
Oh, yes, we need to call someone out here. um
00:36:34
Curt
Oh.
00:36:35
jamie peacock
Yes, had a chat to him on. That's not how you spell his name. um
00:36:40
Curt
Oh.
00:36:41
jamie peacock
We eye had a chat to him over the weekend, and it was very insightful. So we will we will be having a discussion about him later.
00:36:45
Curt
Oh.
00:36:47
jamie peacock
um yeah so anyway retrofits question um when i started this massive retrofit remember i saying i quoted these other guys went to hearties and quoted them and whatnot i finished this retrofit was at dinner with danica on friday night and i'm like fuck okay i don't know if i like um i think i'm done with retrofits get a message from them hey we're ready to proceed with those retrofits now i'm like
00:36:48
Curt
That sounds terrific.
00:36:52
Curt
Yeah, yes.
00:36:58
Curt
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
00:37:05
Curt
Yep.
00:37:09
Curt
Oh, shitty. ah
00:37:12
jamie peacock
I like money. This is a problem because I'm going to have to be on site for like probably a week, a week and a half to finish those retrofits. Like do it and gone from here, but I'm going stay over there. I'm going work till eight o'clock every night to get the job done. Like I want to be in and out as fast as possible.
00:37:27
jamie peacock
And then I'll just build them for imaginary hours because they've already racked up like eight hours of my time.
00:37:30
Curt
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:34
jamie peacock
um And we haven't even done the job yet. So it's a TNM job. So time and materials. So I'm going just imagine a bunch of shit that I'm build them for. And then, because only make like 10% on materials. So it covers, they get potentially a better price, but I don't have to drive the risk. If it arrives and I'm like, here's the paperwork. It costs 20 grand more than we expected.
00:37:56
jamie peacock
They're paying the difference. Whereas like now this retrofit I just finished, it was a fixed price retrofit.
00:37:58
Curt
Right, right.
00:38:02
jamie peacock
I got burnt on the Masso where the Masso ended up costing me, like, I think I quoted them, $2,100. By the time I had the master in my hands, I was at $3,000.
00:38:14
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:38:15
jamie peacock
Because there was unexpected duties, like i ripped a fucking ring on import duties. It was in US dollars, not Australian dollars. there's like a whole bunch of shit that just screwed me on it.
Future Retrofit Challenges
00:38:25
jamie peacock
So these guys, I spoke to them, they're like, no, no, T&M, as long as I can provide paperwork, they're happy to pay whatever the fuck I paid for it plus 10%.
00:38:26
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:33
jamie peacock
So I was like, okay, sweet. I'll do that. It covers my ass. And then i' only make I only really make money on the labor side of things. But then it's a case of I'm billing them from when I get in my car to go there.
00:38:44
jamie peacock
I drive through for one day, strip some stuff off the machine, take some measurements, drive back here, make the adapters, go back the following week, and then spend three or four days there. And they'll put me up in a hotel, so they're not paying for me to drive back and forth.
00:38:57
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:38:58
jamie peacock
So then I stay right around the corner and be there for 12 hours a day and get the job done.
00:39:05
jamie peacock
in out shake it about be fucking done yeah like obviously gonna miss something drive home but whatever that's off the course
00:39:06
Curt
Allegedly, yeah. yeah ha Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. ah
00:39:15
Curt
well Yeah, it's exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Figured it if you want to do it. Yeah. We'll see. we You'll, you'll
00:39:19
jamie peacock
yeah dude it's a it's a three access router it's not hard
00:39:23
Curt
you'll see folks. So, uh, if you're listening to this, you can fast forward now to the six episodes later where Jamie's going to either be like, that was a great decision and I'm so happy that I did it. And I i want to continue doing Rudge Fitz or he'd be like, I want to burn the place down. Yeah.
00:39:36
jamie peacock
Well, it is a wood factory. So fucking easy.
00:39:39
Curt
Ooh, it would go well.
00:39:39
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, it'll be easy.
00:39:41
Curt
but
00:39:41
jamie peacock
you Just need to light a smoke up in there and fucking that. So yeah, don't know. We'll see.
00:39:47
Curt
Oh, boy.
00:39:47
jamie peacock
I'm gonna I've got a meeting with them today. At some point, we'll have a Google meeting and discuss going forward what the plan is. on the Okay, give me a bunch of money can't suck and order shit, because they want to do both of their routes.
00:39:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:56
jamie peacock
So they got these. It's a some some weird brand and i've bitched about them on the podcast before where it's like they took ah you know the the bingo spinner with the balls put in all the different control protocols into there and then picked five fucking balls so there are five different control protocols on this machine like the servos still work yeet because i can't talk to them with a maso they are um
00:40:07
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:20
Curt
Right. You're telling me this. Yeah.
00:40:22
jamie peacock
Proffinet. Then they've got Proffibus on one motor, and then they've got Motionlink on something else, and IOlink on something else. I'm like, what deranged motherfucker did this? They've got some proprietary software that runs on XP.
00:40:35
jamie peacock
So I'm going in and literally pulling all the servos out, putting my own servos in, rewiring all the IO, and then I'm like, the drilling the gang drilling blocks next to the spindle on these routers?
00:40:47
jamie peacock
Fucking yeet. I'm not integrating that shit. I'm not interested. Take it off. Use an ATC. Like they're doing just profile cutting. They're not actually doing cupboard doors or anything where that would make sense.
00:40:58
Curt
Right.
00:40:58
jamie peacock
So I'm just like, take it off.
00:40:58
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:40:59
jamie peacock
It cuts down the number of IO significantly because each one of those tools is a solenoid.
00:41:06
jamie peacock
So I'm going gut the machine.
00:41:06
Curt
Right.
00:41:06
Curt
Right. Right. Yeah.
00:41:07
jamie peacock
going to steal all the fucking anything worth anything that's going home with me because I have lots of space to store stuff.
00:41:14
Curt
was going to say, yeah. Yeah. Put in the, yeah.
00:41:16
jamie peacock
not like dude, I'm gonna pull the solenoid banks and stuff.
00:41:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:18
jamie peacock
Fuck that that's coming home with me. Like I'll leave what we need there the rest comes with me. And all the spare cable and shit comes in I'll take the servos and I'll find a way to get them to work on Linux CNC for another project or something.
00:41:31
Curt
Dude, I did the exact same thing. And I think this summer I'm going to have a garage sale that's going to be like, that's it would have been like 12 year olds me like dream of a garage sale.
00:41:42
jamie peacock
Yeah. Do you do
00:41:44
Curt
Cause it's be like, here's a box of industrial automation that I've been collecting for a year and I don't need, just take it. Don't even pay me. Just take it out of here.
00:41:51
jamie peacock
So that that's the problem.
00:41:52
Curt
So ah yeah.
00:41:52
jamie peacock
Like, you see the value in it. You're like, ooh, this limit switch, it could be useful one day.
00:41:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:58
jamie peacock
And you end up with all this crap.
00:41:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:00
jamie peacock
Like, I've got boxes of industrial Lego where it's just buttons, sensors, shit like that. Because I do end up on site doing stuff where I need it. So I keep that, but I try and keep it to a minimum. Like... I got rid of a whole crate of cable because every time I retrofitted a machine, like for myself, I use all the cable, throw it in there because you need a piece of wire every now and again, and then you've got it.
00:42:20
jamie peacock
But don fucking it adds up quickly.
00:42:23
jamie peacock
It adds up very, very quickly.
00:42:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:25
jamie peacock
So I'm going to have to purge a bunch of shit as well. But like those servos, there's four of them on the machine. There's 600 watt AC servos. um I can't communicate with them, but I'm sure I can make them communicate with something else down the line.
00:42:37
jamie peacock
And those I'll put aside and maybe build a router or, I don't know, make a vibratory tumbler with servo motor driving it or something.
00:42:41
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:46
jamie peacock
I have been known to be dumb on occasion.
00:42:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, so it's, I don't know, we'll see. But I've also got my CNC grinder somewhat working.
00:42:49
Curt
Yeah, I...
00:42:57
Curt
Okay, because you're having issues with not getting a fast enough pulse train out of the pie.
00:42:59
jamie peacock
Two, three. Yeah, went to Claude.
00:43:02
Curt
how did you fix that?
00:43:02
jamie peacock
Hey Claude, I'm using this parallel board on the par gave it all the parameters i'm using. It's like, oh, you have an assigned CPU cores to it. So went and did that. And then it still can't go super fast, but it goes fast enough to work.
00:43:16
Curt
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:43:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, so it was working.
00:43:18
Curt
Cool.
00:43:18
jamie peacock
I need to now build all the brackets for the x and the y axis. So I can automate those and then it's literally a case of put part hit button it grinds till it's finished.
00:43:29
Curt
That's cool. That's cool.
00:43:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, so looking looking promising. I just, yeah, I got it functional to get the anchor points I needed to get out out. And then now it's case of adding all the other motors and stuff.
00:43:42
Curt
Nice. Sick.
00:43:42
jamie peacock
So yeah, I need to get the other one done as well.
00:43:43
Curt
That's good.
00:43:45
jamie peacock
The one for the customer. So I'm building them in parallel.
00:43:47
Curt
right Right, because yeah you you have to make it work, yeah.
00:43:48
jamie peacock
He's not rushing for it, but I need to get it done.
00:43:53
Curt
Because you have
00:43:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've got someone asking for it.
00:43:54
Curt
Yeah, I get it.
00:43:57
jamie peacock
But yeah speaking of that customer, I finished his gluing jigs finally.
00:44:02
Curt
Oh, for as big a ah concertina, is there?
00:44:02
jamie peacock
For Dutchman squeeze box gluing jigs. Yeah, dude.
00:44:05
Curt
Yeah, OK.
00:44:05
jamie peacock
Fuck. So I finished his big one. And then his friends, two little ones, um ended up machining them out of. So I used the wrong material for the wrong part.
00:44:17
jamie peacock
on the gluing jig. I didn't, ah I thought I had ordered it enough I hadn't decided to use the other guy's gluing jigs material to make the ejectors. And they're like, shit, I need to make this guy's gluing jigs.
Client Projects and Production Benefits
00:44:27
jamie peacock
I had a big piece of plate, put it on the vacuum chuck machine, the parts left half a mill, and they came with of trim router and trim routes of them out of the aluminium.
00:44:35
Curt
Nice, nice.
00:44:35
jamie peacock
That dude worked. He's fucking ecstatic. um So I got all that all that done on Friday night because he wanted to use him this weekend. So no, not a problem. I should be back at like 12 o'clock on Friday. Didn't expect to be there all day.
00:44:47
jamie peacock
Got back six o'clock, went to dinner, messaged him. Hey, I'll be back. I'll be in the shop this evening. He came through at like half past seven to grab his parts. And we quickly finished one other part for him. Like, yeah, ended up running late to get his stuff done.
00:44:57
Curt
Nice.
00:44:59
jamie peacock
But it's all that whole job is now done. and came out really, really nice.
00:45:03
Curt
Good.
00:45:03
jamie peacock
Like, I'm waiting for pictures. Had to give him my last keel clamps because I decided to use keel clamps and then realized they didn't have enough of the blem ones. I had to give them good ones, but that's fine.
00:45:15
jamie peacock
I'll run some more. i'm changing coolants probably this afternoon or tomorrow. So I've got the new coolant in.
00:45:21
Curt
Okay.
00:45:22
jamie peacock
I just need to put the other stuff, the cleaner through my machine and then clean my whole machine out and then put the new coolant in.
00:45:29
Curt
Cool.
00:45:30
jamie peacock
and then hopefully my arms will be less aids ridden and my 70 75 will be less stained
00:45:36
Curt
Yeah, that sounds yeah shitty on both accounts. Yeah.
00:45:39
jamie peacock
yeah because i want to run kill clamps unattended and i don't want to have to deal with having like a 20 reject rate yeah it's it's nuts and also like want to do 70 75 for the double-cell bosses so i need it to be not ruining my material because
00:45:46
Curt
Yeah, that's insane. That's, yeah, weird.
00:45:55
Curt
Sure.
00:45:57
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah.
00:45:59
jamie peacock
Ruined material is expensive material.
00:46:02
Curt
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. All right.
00:46:05
jamie peacock
Cool, nice. We're knocking off all the fucking things here. um Okay.
00:46:08
Curt
No doubt.
00:46:10
jamie peacock
Tell me about ah robustizing your production.
00:46:14
Curt
Dude, that this last week is where I noticed it the most because I'm finishing the last of this corporate job, which is just like it's just simple. like ah It's all code that runs smoothly.
00:46:27
Curt
put sharp tools in, let it go. um The lathe has been just doing parts that's like ah sharp tools. Like I now have like tool tracking on like, ah so when I run whatever X amount of pens, um I have like a date at the top of the code and i'm I'm not doing it automatically, but it's like, cause they just last like some of these tools, like a reamer will last like 500 pen bodies.
00:46:47
Curt
So it's like,
00:46:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:49
Curt
It's a long time for me. um But then after that, I run the code. i'm like, okay, I made X amount of bodies. I just add it to the total and then I update the date.
00:46:55
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:46:56
Curt
And then so I know I'm like, okay, I'm at whatever, 160 and sixty and this this specific tool only cuts up to about 200 and then it starts getting, the finish starts to degrade.
00:47:05
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:06
Curt
um So like, you know, once I get close, I'm like, ah, it's not going to make it. So I swap the tool out.
00:47:09
jamie peacock
Are you are you adding that as a note to the top of the code as well? How what the expected to love is?
00:47:16
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. I basically just have like, uh, like tool light, like I'll have like reamer and then I'll have like whatever, 150 out of 500. And I know once it hits 500, the quality is going to go to shit.
00:47:23
jamie peacock
Okay. Yeah.
00:47:26
Curt
So I just swap it at 450 or something like that.
00:47:28
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:47:29
Curt
Um, just doing shit like that has been so nice. Cause I'm, and I like some of those tools, like this one tool, i'm like, Oh, should i put like an extra finishing pass?
00:47:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:36
Curt
because come it's like, kind of leaving fuzz. And I like look online. I'm like, that tool is 20 bucks. I'm like, Take like, and I'm using it. It's a drill mill. I'm using the tip of it for engraving.
00:47:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:44
Curt
Essentially. I'm like, take it, put it in my scrap tools bin.
00:47:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:47
Curt
Like, yeah, it's 90% razor sharp carbide and 99% razor sharp.
00:47:51
jamie peacock
But the bet you're using isn't.
00:47:52
Curt
But the, yeah. So I'm like, okay, I could spend 10 minutes reposting code, which will eat up the $20 that the tool costs or just throw it. So anyways, just, The whole roundabout thing is just once you have like robust production, like that works all the time, like over and over and over and over and over. as long as you just like swap the tools and do it like you can do other shit. Like I spent this entire week just dicking around with things that I wanted to play with because everything was happy. Everything was running smooth. And it's like, it's just like I kind of sat there for a minute. like, this is like part of the shit I'm working towards. It's just like to be able to just chill. I mean,
00:48:25
Curt
next week is it's going to be like a ton of like hand finishing and I'm going to be like, fuck, I hate my life. But like this week is all machines doing shit. So it's like, we, so yeah.
00:48:32
jamie peacock
Yeah. What you need is a Polish sausage polisher.
00:48:38
Curt
Oh yeah. I mean, i have a Dutch Sasha's polisher, but I mean, that's a joke to my wife. Um, sister's um no, i I would, yeah, I do need a polar Sasha's polisher.
00:48:44
jamie peacock
You're killing it there, Kurt. Killing it. Yeah.
00:48:51
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:51
jamie peacock
Dude, 100%. Because you do a lot of hand polishing on on those things.
00:48:56
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the ah the sausage polisher is potentially that, um and I'm also, I'm pretty sure I'm just going to buy that tumbler I've been looking at, so, and do more tumbled finishes.
00:48:58
jamie peacock
I think it would be very, very useful.
00:49:09
jamie peacock
the spinny spinny one the one the spinny just at the bottom just just tumbler yeah yeah yes they're very spinny uh yeah well guess we can chat to our guest next week about those because i'm pretty sure he's got a a disk tumbler
00:49:12
Curt
ah Yeah, the spinny, spinny, spinny, yeah. ah Yeah, rotor disk tumblers, yeah, exactly. I love a centrifugal, but they're little spendy, so, and big, so.
00:49:31
Curt
I've been talking, yeah, i I've been to Zier enough about his.
00:49:33
jamie peacock
yes
00:49:34
Curt
so Well, the the podcast would be a perfect excuse for me to talk to me even more about it because it'd be a different audience.
00:49:37
jamie peacock
Yes. Even more about it. I like this plan.
00:49:41
Curt
yeah We'll go back to the Tumblr cast.
00:49:41
jamie peacock
Yeah. Different audience. They get to hear about it as well. Yeah. Tumblr call. I forgot about that.
00:49:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:46
jamie peacock
Oh, geez. ah Yeah, dude. Having robust production code makes a huge difference.
00:49:48
Curt
Oh, shit, yeah.
00:49:52
Curt
Oh, it's like, yeah, it's monstrous.
00:49:52
jamie peacock
not Just knowing it can run.
00:49:55
Curt
yeah
00:49:57
jamie peacock
like You don't have to stress a about it. It's great.
00:50:00
Curt
And I just like...
00:50:00
jamie peacock
It's like...
00:50:01
Curt
And same thing, lou we've talked about it a million times. like I run the code, so like I'll put an extra, let's say, 20% allowance on material. So like if I cut the stock a little bit wrong, I don't have to worry about it.
00:50:13
Curt
I just throw it in there. Yeah, the code takes another minute longer to run, but like
00:50:16
jamie peacock
Oh no. Alright. Yeah.
00:50:17
Curt
I don't have to worry about it.
00:50:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:50:18
Curt
Like I just loaded in. It's like, whoops, that one was a little bit bigger. It's cutting already. It's like, whatever. Like it's yeah, just less. And I even like to start off all the code now. Like I even put little notes to Kurt to be like, this is what this should look like.
00:50:30
Curt
This is what this should look like. You should have this here. And like, if all these boxes check hit go and nothing bad is going to happen. So it's just like way less rune pants.
00:50:39
jamie peacock
So I've got, speaking of programming, like and I've got a customer that I programmed the entire lathe, like a whole family of parts. And in the top of their code, it's, this is the diameter of the bar, this is the length that needs to be cut, in this is much of a stick out of the chuck.
00:50:46
Curt
Okay.
00:50:51
jamie peacock
And their whole machine is set up center line for X and face of the jaws for the for Z.
00:50:52
Curt
Yep. Mm-hmm.
00:50:57
jamie peacock
And everything is programmed like that. that they can They don't need me to be there when they want to run stuff. We validated everything, and then they run. And I got a call this week from a friend who's... got a customer is looking for someone's program things and we get a dude I could do contract programming that's fine like we'll come and validate it's a production there's like six or seven part numbers they want to run we get it all dialed in and then they just load the program follow the instructions and run it but it's not it's not particularly difficult it's button pusher work
00:51:23
Curt
Yep.
Contract Services and Support
00:51:27
jamie peacock
look and that dude having those notes and building a robust process invaluable like
00:51:27
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:51:35
jamie peacock
You've got to put the time and effort in to make your life as easy as possible. Or as difficult to fuck up as possible.
00:51:35
Curt
Absolutely.
00:51:43
Curt
Well, yeah, like in some days you come in and you're like some days I come in like that. My crayons are razor sharp. Like I am good to go. And some days you come in and you're just like, I can barely walk and look at the same time.
00:51:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:55
Curt
Like what is going on? it's just like and having that just super simple.
00:51:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:58
Curt
You're like, oh, OK, today I can lean on it. And tomorrow is like, no, don't I remember And it's like, yeah, just yeah, it's nice.
00:52:02
jamie peacock
Yeah, dude, getting it. Oh, that was ah that the thing that I remember. I forgot. Putting that tool off in the top of your code. Dude, it gets out your head. Getting shit out of your head is super important.
00:52:14
jamie peacock
Because it's all good and well, you remember, oh, it can run 500 parts until you forget that.
00:52:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:18
jamie peacock
And then you make a bunch of scrap because oh it was actually 400 parts that it could run.
00:52:23
Curt
Well, and the worst part is like the degradation is so slow at that kind of quantity that like you don't notice it until you're like far in and you're like, oh shit.
00:52:31
jamie peacock
Finishing
00:52:32
Curt
You're like, now I have so much extra finishing. If I just would have known I could have saved myself hours on the back end for a whatever $60 tool or something silly.
00:52:39
jamie peacock
yeah yeah yeah no 100 like yeah gotta gotta take it out of your head it's having your head's a dumb idea um okay uh well that covered that topic um so i was on taps and patience last week
00:52:41
Curt
Right. So, Yeah.
00:52:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:57
jamie peacock
which we've referenced like six times already.
00:52:58
Curt
Yes.
00:52:59
jamie peacock
It was great. It was very insightful chatting to AJ. We ended up chatting after the show as well, as we do. And half the show was just books, which was even better. um But from Taps and Patience, they have a Patreon, like we do. Oh, we haven't done the Patreon yet. We also have a Patreon.
00:53:16
jamie peacock
Our Patreons get access to the after show. I forgot it because I ran away to get coffee. ah Yeah, all the Patreons, the money's going towards getting us to IMTS and accommodation and all those things. um pay All paid Patreons get access to the After Show, where Kurt and not normally ramble about some other random stuff or do movie reviews.
00:53:33
jamie peacock
um The top-tier Patreons, they get a shout-out every week, and that list is getting long. I like it. We've got Jade from Benchmark20, Luke from Fabtastic,
00:53:45
jamie peacock
AJ from Subtract Manufacturing and 38 other companies. Jason S, EJ from Nocturnal Welding, the Aussie Machinist, Christian Olson, Charles Watt, Carl from Cursed Machine, Matt from Off-World Gear, Alex B, John from 2SM Performance and Engine Tricks, and Matt from Modern Fuel.
00:53:59
jamie peacock
Thank you to them and all the other Patreons for making the wheels on the train go round and round.
00:54:06
jamie peacock
If you couldn't tell, it's early in the morning and I forgot to do things.
00:54:06
Curt
Whee!
00:54:09
jamie peacock
Anyway, back to my story of Taps and Patience having Patreons. I was on the Discord on Friday night while I was packing my fishing stuff, cha listening to the guys chat, chatting to them, and Josh from Leighton Machine came on.
00:54:26
jamie peacock
He's just got a 1500. So I was chatting to him, dude, the guy's done 94 jobs for Zometry with Langmire MR1.
00:54:37
Curt
Oh, wow. Okay.
00:54:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah. That was my response too.
Industry Discussions and Experiences
00:54:42
jamie peacock
So yeah I was chatting to and I'm like, because he's now learning to run the 1500 because he hasn't ever run a proper machine.
00:54:43
Curt
Huh.
00:54:50
jamie peacock
And I'm like, dude, it's about to get like easy mode because we were discussing how like how he was holding tolerance and stuff. i'm like, dude, i used to do that with a slow yo. You used to do it with a Kurtz. Like you had to pay attention.
00:54:59
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:55:00
jamie peacock
You had to be pretty fucking good at what you were doing to hit the tolerances you wanted to hit. And then you got a good machine and it's just like, woo, YOLO, super easy mode.
00:55:07
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
00:55:08
jamie peacock
So yeah, was interesting chatting to him. Like he's done some big parts, like big aluminum parts and yeah, impressive.
00:55:12
Curt
Ooh.
00:55:16
Curt
Cool.
00:55:16
jamie peacock
So yeah, guys go check them out. It's fricking cool.
00:55:19
Curt
Oh, that's awesome. Well, good on you, dude, because i see that's not not easy.
00:55:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's impressive on that machine.
00:55:22
Curt
And that's not a... Yeah, 100%. Yeah. yeah hundred percent yeah
00:55:26
jamie peacock
Like he, he like leave it, leave the feature undersized and then, oversize and then walk it in with stock to leave as high as being going about holding decent tolerance.
00:55:37
jamie peacock
And that's what you got to do on a on a rubbery machine.
00:55:37
Curt
Right.
00:55:41
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:42
jamie peacock
dumb It's cool to hear other people do dumb shit as well.
00:55:44
Curt
Cool. That's cool. That's cool.
00:55:47
jamie peacock
Like, I don't have bunches on me. Dude, you managed to do zometry on that thing. Like, that is impressive. like seriously impressive so yeah very very interesting chat with him on friday night he's now i've got a 1500 so he was going to get justin's uh style and then justin kind of wanted to hang on to it and yeah then yeah because he was also a little concerned about it being a little bit of an older style and not having support
00:55:54
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's cool. That's awesome.
00:56:08
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:56:16
jamie peacock
whereas the Tormach obviously being a a newer machine has support. So, and like lifetime support, even if you're like the third owner.
00:56:16
Curt
Sure, sure, sure.
00:56:20
Curt
Totally, yeah.
00:56:25
Curt
Right, yeah, especially in our circles.
00:56:25
jamie peacock
Tormach supports are really good. You give them the the serial number and they fucking help you.
00:56:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:29
jamie peacock
I know, um Justin from PDX, he bought a second hand saw from someone, one of their band saws, and it was being done and he's been on support with like trying to get it solved, like fixed with Tormach support and they've been helping him. Like you've got a Tormach product, we'll help you. It doesn't mean just buy it from us, it's still one of our products.
00:56:50
jamie peacock
So the Tormach support's been really good with helping him get his saw running.
00:56:51
Curt
That's cool.
00:56:56
Curt
That's cool. That's nice to hear. Yeah.
00:56:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's nice to have customers that have, or suppliers that do good support. i actually found out I can get a BBT spindle for the LK. I've got to send them the the serial number today.
00:57:10
Curt
Oh, okay, so you can, that new machine and that one can have proper spindle, or not proper, but rigid.
00:57:15
jamie peacock
Well, we got a more rigid spindle for the dumb shit I plan on doing, because my
00:57:17
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:20
jamie peacock
through spindle purge is not working on the lk currently uh and i'm getting chips in the tape every now and on again so i need to do so i want to get a price on a new spindle and then make a decision from there what i want to do because uh yeah there's uh something that'll come up in our google boxes that uh i've been looking i've been starting to look at um which may be like danica and i chatting yesterday she's like yeah it adds a lot of expense and like it does but it also
00:57:24
Curt
Right.
00:57:32
Curt
Sure. Yeah, yeah.
00:57:48
jamie peacock
changes the dynamic of the business a little bit. So I don't know, We'll get we'll get to that.
00:57:52
Curt
Cool. Cool.
00:57:54
jamie peacock
let's Let's bury the lead a bit. um
00:57:57
Curt
ah Yeah, good they made it this far.
00:57:57
jamie peacock
yeah yeah
00:57:59
Curt
yeah
00:57:59
jamie peacock
So this week ah this week, I machined a bunch tool steel for a customer, making bending dies for him, dude.
00:58:06
Curt
Gross. Ooh.
00:58:09
jamie peacock
I broke all of my six millimeter end miles.
00:58:12
jamie peacock
Like literally all of them. No, it roughs fine. And roughs fine, and then all of a sudden breaks. But I'm using them because when they break, they don't fuck anything else up. It's not a half-inch endmill that when it breaks, your spindle's potentially going die.
00:58:12
Curt
ah
00:58:22
Curt
Sure, sure.
00:58:25
jamie peacock
Like a six-mill endmill's going to break and just carry, like the machine's not going to notice. So yeah, burnt through a good one, then all my old fucked ones, and then my other two good ones, but eventually got the job out.
00:58:37
jamie peacock
It was a bit annoying.
00:58:38
Curt
Nice.
00:58:39
jamie peacock
But yeah, like I'm just going to have to get good at doing tool steel. It's not hard. You've just got to Get the feeds and speeds right. Like the feeds and speeds documents I have for those end mills is not, I need to give it a proper read. Like I'm just YOLOing it a bit.
00:58:53
jamie peacock
So I think I need to just figure out exactly what they want and then I'll be okay. So that's on the agenda for the the coming weeks is to figure out, like dial in the tool steel side of things.
00:59:03
jamie peacock
Because the guy supplied the material squared up in a millimeter oversize. So then it's put the block in face the side, turn the block over face that side and I wasn't using a face mill because I don't have one set up for steel I was using a fucking animal.
00:59:17
jamie peacock
So it was like six minutes in six minutes in four minutes in four minutes, then put the block back that way its now do the features into it ah to try and keep the parts accurate like yeah, frickin ball egg.
00:59:18
Curt
Cool. Sure. right.
00:59:30
jamie peacock
But yeah, it looks like he fucked up his mill this weekend. um He's like, hey, can you get me a spare lead screw? I'm like, what happened? And then he was using a he made himself a line boring tool for it.
00:59:37
Curt
Oh.
00:59:41
jamie peacock
And I think it hooked and fucking rucked and bent the lead screw.
00:59:46
Curt
Oh.
00:59:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'll find out.
00:59:47
jamie peacock
He said he'll come past later today. So I'll find out what dumb shit happened.
00:59:47
Curt
Oh.
00:59:52
Curt
Yeah, when you're asking for a lead screw as a spare part, something bad happened.
00:59:56
jamie peacock
Dude, it's at the end.
00:59:58
Curt
Oh, no.
00:59:58
jamie peacock
It's great. I was like, dude, let's just, let's buy a ball screw and put a ball screw into it. Like make the adapters, put a ball screw in. You might lose a little bit of travel, but it'll be smoother. Like it's going to go to be cheaper than buying a new lead screw because ball screws a dime a dozen now, like f*****g may as well.
01:00:07
Curt
Totally. Yeah. Yeah. and ah Yeah. ah yeah Which is crazy to think of. Yeah. Speaking of ball screws.
01:00:16
jamie peacock
Dude, it's a, yes.
01:00:18
Curt
Sorry to totally derail. ah ah Did you see the NH micro?
01:00:22
jamie peacock
Nicholas Hacco. Yes.
01:00:23
Curt
Oh my God. That was cool. AF.
01:00:26
jamie peacock
Dude, it's nuts. Yeah. That tiny, tiny little ball screw that he made.
01:00:28
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:30
jamie peacock
That's freaking silly.
01:00:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:00:32
Curt
Brilliant.
01:00:32
Curt
Brilliant work. Yeah. Go check it out, folks. On Instagram, he posted it, I think, as a reel.
01:00:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:00:36
Curt
It's amazing. Yeah. Like a ball screw the size of like a toothpick.
01:00:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, dude. It's...
01:00:40
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, absolutely tiny. It's freaking cool. um I was looking at linear guides for this router was working on. They potentially wanted to extend the travels of the machine.
01:00:53
jamie peacock
So... make a bolt-on extension, give them extra extra like 300 mils of travel. So we're looking at rails, dude. Rails are stupid cheap. You can buy a three-meter-long rail, HGR 20 rail, for $31.
01:01:11
jamie peacock
The shipping is a whole other story, but yeah, $31 for a three-meter-long linear rail. It's like, are you fucking kidding me? And that's...
01:01:20
Curt
I would.
01:01:21
jamie peacock
that's matched and joined. That's two pieces of rail going three meters long, matched and joined.
01:01:25
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:27
jamie peacock
It's like, I'm sorry, that's for insanely cheap.
01:01:30
Curt
That's nuts. That's nuts. That's crazy.
01:01:31
jamie peacock
But that's also because China's making a shitload economies of scale, right?
01:01:32
Curt
I mean, economy. Yeah.
01:01:36
Curt
Absolutely.
01:01:36
jamie peacock
Like, yeah.
01:01:37
Curt
I was going to say that. Exactly that. It's like, it is mind blowing still.
01:01:39
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's still absolutely fucking mind-blowing if they do it for that price.
01:01:41
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:43
jamie peacock
Like, it's stupid. um
01:01:46
Curt
I know. I want it.
01:01:46
jamie peacock
But yeah, yeah.
01:01:49
Curt
i say I just wanted to make some like sliding like mechanisms.
Work-Life Balance
01:01:52
Curt
And I was like, I could use like, I'm like, how do i do this cheaply? Like drawer slides or like, I'm like linear rails. They're cheap. Like they're, they're they're not quite cheap enough to put on your kitchen drawers yet, but like almost.
01:01:58
jamie peacock
to.
01:02:03
jamie peacock
Well, we're chatting about we're chatting about this this weekend. I'm like, I feel like I've kind of lost perspective of money, not being salaried like fucking I i need money. I work a bit harder, make some money. um
01:02:14
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:15
jamie peacock
But it's like, okay, cool. You say someone, oh, I spent 5,000 rams, so fucking what, $300. I spent $300 on tooling this week. They're like, what the fuck? I'm like, dude, I needed it for work.
01:02:26
jamie peacock
I needed it to do my job. Like, oh no, I spent $1,000 on aluminium. They're like oh fuck. I'm like, it's $1,000. Woo. o It's interesting, like chatting to people who are working for other people and salaried, like they have a fixed amount of money every month.
01:02:42
jamie peacock
And I'm like, I need money, I just work a bit harder. or take on a job I don't want to do and then they look at money.
01:02:46
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:49
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:49
jamie peacock
It's ah yeah a very interesting dynamic.
01:02:54
Curt
Totally. Yeah, it's...
01:02:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's weird.
01:02:57
Curt
Yeah, I don't...
01:02:59
jamie peacock
I like it.
01:03:00
Curt
I like it. And then some days I'm so envious of the little people that get to drive the little cleaning machines around the mall when it closes at night.
01:03:06
jamie peacock
Dude.
01:03:07
Curt
And I'm like, fuck, man, I want your job. Some weeks I just, I want your job. I want to sit on your little machine and I just want to drive through the mall when it's quiet and no one's there. going listen to do podcast.
01:03:15
jamie peacock
Easy mode.
01:03:16
Curt
And then I go home don't have to think about my work. I just, I just go home and I, yeah, it's like, there's something to that.
01:03:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, switching the brain off can be a challenge.
01:03:23
Curt
There's something to that. Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:25
jamie peacock
Like, it can really be a challenge i was actually chatting one of my customers on Friday morning on the way to Sato Stopton and had a cup of coffee with them.
01:03:26
Curt
ah
01:03:32
jamie peacock
And since I'm now, I've been feeling like sick for the last month. I'm now finally feeling a bit more healed. And was like, no, fuck it.
01:03:38
Curt
Yeah.
01:03:39
jamie peacock
I get in bed, I turn my brain off and I go to sleep. Like as soon as I'm bored, I'm asleep. And It's literally case sort of lay down, take a couple deep breaths and I'm out. Unless I'm busy with the project, then fuck no sleep for me. I'm dreaming about the project I'm working on.
01:03:53
jamie peacock
But generally, like I've gotten pretty good at just turning the brain off and going to fucking
01:03:58
jamie peacock
And apparently a lot of people battle with that. Yeah.
01:03:59
Curt
ah yeah
01:04:01
Curt
Dude, everyone in our circles battles with that. And my fix as of late is the same fix that you can apply is I lay on the couch and instead of picking up my phone and watching like YouTube videos on the thing I'm trying to solve, because that just doesn't help my brain spiral down, I pick up that little um the little gaming console that we both have now.
01:04:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, it doesn't.
01:04:18
jamie peacock
Ah, yes.
01:04:20
Curt
And i I play like some N64 or I play Call Duty or I play Grand Theft Auto or I play something just that I just...
01:04:20
jamie peacock
And play some games.
01:04:28
jamie peacock
Something to switch your brain off, yeah.
01:04:30
Curt
Yeah. And I'm just like, oh, this is kind of nice. i don't doom scroll and I don't read about anything and I play some stupid video game and I'm like, okay, now I go to bed and then everything is well.
01:04:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, I tend to watch like comedy shows or whatever lately. So like we're watching the middle.
01:04:41
Curt
Perfect. Yeah.
01:04:42
jamie peacock
It's just something totally fucking dumb. And then I go to YouTube and watch. all the maker YouTube stuff and see the dumb projects guys do, but generally don't. I try not to dive down the rabbit hole of what I'm busy with.
01:04:54
jamie peacock
Like, I try and do, like, just other random making stuff because I enjoy seeing people make things.
01:04:55
Curt
Oh yeah. I,
01:05:00
Curt
Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm successful either. Like I play the video games and I, you know, brush my teeth, whatever. And I go to bed and I lay in bed. And as soon as I close my eyes, it's like, all right, now we can think about the project. like, God damn it.
01:05:08
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Now we can work on it all night.
01:05:10
Curt
it's Whatever. Yeah.
01:05:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:12
Curt
Mentally work on it.
01:05:13
jamie peacock
No, no, 100%.
01:05:13
Curt
Yeah. Anyway.
01:05:14
jamie peacock
i've I've been that person sitting at a family event and fucking thinking about the layout of machines.
01:05:20
Curt
to be dude so many times me and my wife been driving and she's like are you mad i'm like wait what no and i'm like no no sorry no i was like i'm not mad at you at all i'm like i was just i was just trying to solve a problem in my head and i'm just like oh you're just kind of staring out the window for like the last 10 minutes i'm like yeah no no sorry i didn't i didn't mean that in a bad way just working on a problem exactly yeah yeah yeah
01:05:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:37
jamie peacock
Busy processing other shit. Yeah. No, 100%. the same, So tell me about copying and paste and how would have saved you lots of money, but I'm assuming it didn't.
Backup Importance and Client Issues
01:05:47
Curt
Yeah. So, uh, folks, if you're listening to this right now and you have like production code or something that you depend on, um, and you think you have a backup, just go and check to make sure you have a backup.
01:05:57
jamie peacock
Go make it back.
01:05:57
Curt
And if you don't have a backup, pause this podcast right now and go make a backup.
01:05:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:01
Curt
Cause it'll take you two seconds. And if I did have done that, I would have saved myself 300 bucks cause well, 300 bucks in cost and then, and probably another few hundred bucks in time. But, Yeah, it was a dumb, my Canada edition pens.
01:06:13
Curt
I'm machining one of them.
01:06:13
jamie peacock
Oh.
01:06:13
Curt
I'm like, okay, i go to open the code.
01:06:14
jamie peacock
Yep. Oh, shit. Yeah.
01:06:15
Curt
I'm like, shit, the code isn't here.
01:06:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:16
Curt
I'm like, okay. I'm like, well, I make backup. So I'm like, I go look at my backup. I'm like, there's no backup in my backup for that piece of code. I'm like, what? the fuck So I go look in Fusion, which is my last place to look.
01:06:24
jamie peacock
should
01:06:28
Curt
And anyway, it's in Fusion. But like, so now I have to like repost it. and then I'm like, and then when I repost it, there was a little error in the code that I didn't catch that I obviously changed the next time. And like just dumb things where it's just a stack. So yeah, it fucked up some pen parts.
01:06:40
Curt
And just, I was just like, if I just had this as a like a known. So anyways, I'm just going to go through and double check. i I double checked all my other production, make sure I have it all. But I'm just like, just so dumb for something silly like that.
01:06:52
Curt
And it's like, oopsie, oopsie.
01:06:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, he du shit like I can just eat up a whole bunch of your day now and I've got to undo what you fucking missing.
01:06:59
Curt
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
01:06:59
jamie peacock
Like I might actually do that today. Just go to pull all the code off the end code and back it all up because I leave code on the M code that doesn't touch my nose. So I need to plug I think I have a backup on the nose anyway, but go to a fresh backup.
01:07:13
jamie peacock
Because there's some new stuff.
01:07:13
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
01:07:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, I actually need to add that to the list of things today.
01:07:15
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:19
jamie peacock
Pleats rollers. follow up with that I made samples so I want to find out if we're gonna get that fucking order because that'll keep the emco busy for a little while machining the ends of an extruded brass gear profile
01:07:25
Curt
Hmm.
01:07:33
Curt
Hmm, okay.
01:07:33
jamie peacock
just machining like in machining on it so I had a collared wire cuts and then I'm going make a draw tube support dingus for inside the draw tube and put a bolt in there so I can adjust the length so that I can just put it against the dead stop machine one in turn around put it against the dead stop machine half a mill off a machine that end and then plow through these these parts pretty quickly because I did also charge an appropriate amount for them so want make sure we're going get the order And then I can run production because I think the guys push them for like 100 sets.
01:08:00
Curt
good. Okay.
01:08:03
jamie peacock
So it's 400 pieces to be machined. I'm like, sweet.
01:08:08
Curt
Nice. Yeah.
01:08:09
jamie peacock
It's a decent, it's a decent amount of money. So I'm like, fucking hey, let's let's do this. see We can do it this month still, because we are running out of month.
01:08:16
Curt
Time.
01:08:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:08:17
Curt
Time. Time.
01:08:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. Like I got an order from my one castle, I got a RFQ, I need to confirm the order today. So go buy material and run this stuff. Because we're running out of days and Eurosteel are probably going like, hey, we don't have stock of that. And I'm like, well, fuck.
01:08:33
Curt
ah
01:08:34
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, it's a bit of a thing.
01:08:35
Curt
Cool.
01:08:37
jamie peacock
So ah the NDA, the last thing for the day.
01:08:39
Curt
Yeah. Oh, right. You had one more. Sorry. Yeah, yeah.
01:08:42
jamie peacock
I haven't heard back yet.
01:08:42
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
01:08:43
jamie peacock
I'm waiting to go back. So I don't know if we've spoken about this. The guys that I made those turbines for, those not turbines, diffusers for last year.
01:08:51
Curt
Right. Yes. They look like turbines.
01:08:52
jamie peacock
The ones I told to fuck off.
01:08:53
Curt
Yes.
01:08:56
jamie peacock
My customer eventually told them to fuck off.
01:08:56
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:56
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
01:08:59
jamie peacock
They managed to get the machine, someone with a five axis and they're going, oh, no, we couldn't hit the price.
01:09:00
Curt
Okay.
01:09:03
jamie peacock
Like, no fucking shit, dude.
01:09:06
jamie peacock
Your price was way out. So they came begging to my customer to do work for them again. And he's yeah, sure, no problem. Except so you're no longer on a 30 or 60 day account.
01:09:07
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
01:09:17
jamie peacock
It's now COD.
01:09:19
jamie peacock
like end of end of fucking conversation you want us to do your work these are our terms now so he they asked about some small stuff he's like just get all the jamie phone me say hey listen i've given them your number okay no worries so they phoned me hello how are you being all polite all right cool see the stuff i'll have a look i know we need you to sign a nda first send me the nda so nda arrived i went forward to danica she's like you will not sign this piece of paper um There's way too many issues in this.
01:09:19
Curt
Okay, yeah, yeah.
01:09:47
jamie peacock
So I'm like, cool, send me an email back with all the issues that you have with that wife, because that is your job to make sure I don't do dumb shit. Dude, she sent back like a three page document of everything that's fucked in this NDA.
01:09:59
jamie peacock
So I sent it back to them. They're like, Oh, do you mind know adding notation to the NDA? Not a problem. Sent it back. Like, oh we'll send it to legal. We'll come back to you. Dude, the NDA, not allowed to share any information.
01:09:59
Curt
Oh no.
01:10:12
jamie peacock
That is the words. information can't tell you I work for them. Because that's information. It's like dan like, no, unless you tell us it is proprietary information.
01:10:19
Curt
Right.
01:10:24
jamie peacock
It's in the public fucking door. Like unless you tell us this is proprietary, it doesn't consider we're not considering it to be proprietary.
01:10:28
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:30
jamie peacock
Also indefinite length on the NDA. I'm like, No, no, you get five years max.
01:10:34
Curt
Nice.
01:10:36
jamie peacock
After five years, fuck you.
01:10:37
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:38
jamie peacock
I'm sharing your shit. So they like a whole bunch of stuff and then no limit to damages. So if they do decide to serve as they can serve as for all the money in the world, there's no limit. I'm like, no, no, friends, the limit to damages is how much you've paid me, motherfucker.
01:10:52
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:52
jamie peacock
No, you're not getting more than you've paid me back if you decide to sue me.
01:10:52
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:55
jamie peacock
Like, fuck that. You will fix this NDA if you want me to do your work. So yeah, took a hard-ass stance with them. Also, i don't really mind if I don't get their work. They have a lovely reputation of not paying and fucking around, and yeah, i just actually don't want to deal with that.
01:11:09
jamie peacock
So we'll, yeah, yeah we'll see.
01:11:09
Curt
Yeah, it sounds like something to avoid.
01:11:10
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:12
jamie peacock
Like, we'll see what happens there. but Anyway, oh what is in your Google box?
01:11:15
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:17
jamie peacock
A whole bunch of things by the looks of it.
01:11:20
Curt
Yeah, a whole bunch of things. um Actually, ah kind of a cool thing, and same thing on the whole like unplug your brain. ah There's a company, and I don't know if there's a better one. I just came across this. it might be It might be a hacked version or something. X-T-E-N-I-N-K. So X-T-E-N-K?
01:11:37
Curt
X4? It's like a little e-reader... ah
01:11:40
jamie peacock
yeah oh that's cool that's cool
01:11:41
Curt
something or other and they make a little tiny like mag one that you can stick on the back of your phone and the cool thing is like soon as you flip your phone over it turns on and it just like it's a tiny e like imagine e-reader the size of a credit card and so you just load a book on there whatever and you can just scroll it's just kind of the whole thing of like flip your phone over don't doom scroll like scroll through a book or something and anyway i thought it was they're like like 100 bucks and they just pop in your pocket it's like whip it out and just read a book instead of just like doom scrolling instagram or something stupid that we all do so yeah I thought it was really cool.
01:12:01
jamie peacock
that's cool
01:12:10
Curt
Um, I don't know much about him yet, but I, I might end up picking one up because I think it's kind of just a cool way to, yeah you got to burn five minutes.
01:12:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, that is really cool.
01:12:16
Curt
Just read a book that you actually want read instead of just reading some heinous news.
01:12:17
jamie peacock
Yeah. Huh?
01:12:20
Curt
Uh,
01:12:21
jamie peacock
It runs on ESP32. Yeah.
01:12:23
Curt
Yeah, it's like it's a pretty cool little device, and it's just it's so tiny. like That's what got me. It's just like thin, tiny.
01:12:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:12:29
Curt
um
01:12:30
jamie peacock
That's super cool.
01:12:31
Curt
Sizer, because that's vinyl cutters I've been looking at. Oracle Viner.
01:12:33
jamie peacock
Ah, yes.
01:12:34
Curt
I actually i actually used to do ah like vinyl work in the past, so instead of like buying like all this Amazon stuff, I was like, I'll just buy it like the Oracle, like the proper shit. So ordered a bunch of that stuff.
01:12:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:12:44
Curt
PM1228Lathe, because someone was looked at one of my our videos and saw my lathe and to asked me some details. So they reached out, so I sent them a message back. I just didn't i didn't know what the PM1228 was. It's like, what is he talking about? I'm like, oh, lathe. Okay.
01:12:58
Curt
um Procreate alternatives because I don't do ah Apple and I want like a drawing, like a tablet drawing app that...
01:13:06
jamie peacock
because you've already procreated, but sure.
01:13:10
Curt
Ha ha ha ha. So anyways, yeah, trying to find a good alternative for that kind of piece of software. And...
01:13:17
jamie peacock
career change by the looks of it.
01:13:17
Curt
ah Satur...
01:13:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:13:19
Curt
Dude, I love drawing. Like, I always draw. um And, like, on... I like... Actually, i draw on Inkscape a lot, but it's clumsy on a tablet. So, ah just looking at it. Some vector drawing program. um And saturation drive diving. I came across this guy's Instagram channel. I'll link it in the show notes. um And he does, ah like, deep sea work.
01:13:41
Curt
So, they do, like, saturation diving. And, i don't know. That was a career path I was kind of interested in for a while until I wasn't...
01:13:48
jamie peacock
change yeah I've got a few primary school friends like friends I was I was friends with in primary school that are saturation divers two brothers that's quite interesting to follow this stuff on Instagram i'm like dude do you go live underwater for like weeks on end
01:13:48
Curt
um Yeah, I'm not in. Not now. Too scared to do that.
01:13:58
Curt
Yeah.
01:14:03
Curt
and just like breathing like Helox, like helium oxygen oxygen mixes and just like just wild shit.
01:14:05
jamie peacock
yeah it's interesting yeah it's really really interesting
01:14:08
Curt
This is really cool. i don't know. Yeah. Anyway,
Exploring New Opportunities and Projects
01:14:12
jamie peacock
Yeah. a So I've been starting to research industrial units because may make a little bit of a switch. I don't know. We'll see.
01:14:12
Curt
what's in your Google box?
01:14:22
jamie peacock
i I like not having to commute, but it turns out I only have an 80-amp breaker and a 60-amp breaker.
01:14:23
Curt
Oh. Oh, shit.
01:14:27
Curt
oh
01:14:31
jamie peacock
So I am limited in what I can do here.
01:14:31
Curt
oh shit
01:14:35
jamie peacock
So it's a discussion we're having this weekend, potentially getting a unit and bringing call on. So getting him to kind of shut his story down, but come and effectively work for me.
01:14:46
jamie peacock
Running machines as an operator and a program and what I have like shares and kind of story something to that effect. um So we might go drive around look at units later today, like in the middle between us.
01:14:56
Curt
Okay.
01:14:57
jamie peacock
So it's a yeah, industrial, industrial rental space.
01:14:58
Curt
Buildings, and industrial buildings. Yeah, I get it. Okay.
01:15:02
jamie peacock
I don't know, it lot of overhead, but it means the guys that we look at buying a new machine, I can turn to them and say, cool, let's get a unit.
01:15:03
Curt
Gotcha.
01:15:11
jamie peacock
Let's put a shitty machine in and we can be running in a month's time. Like we move all my machines there, we we've called machine there and we just carry on.
01:15:16
Curt
Right, right.
01:15:20
jamie peacock
um yeah i don't know i have mixed feelings about it we'll see what comes of that uh was googling how to get the master out of optional stop which is really fucking stupid it's control o um it's fucking daft uh but super useful to have that functionality when you're proving out code like super useful um yeah reading a vfd manual for that retrofit to get the spindle to slow down sooner um
01:15:31
Curt
Yeah, yes. ah Bit me. Yeah. ah
01:15:47
jamie peacock
Maso tool changer implementation, reading all those documents. There's like a bit of ah a theme going on here. Then I was checking my ISP's status because we had no internet the other day. And then trying to buy a 5C collets in South Africa is not a simple task.
01:16:00
jamie peacock
As far as I know, there are two places that supply them and neither have stock of 8 mil collets and I've lost mine.
01:16:01
Curt
m
01:16:07
Curt
Oh, shit.
01:16:07
jamie peacock
Like I've lost the fucking collets. I assume it ended up in a chip bin or something, but I cannot locate it in my workshop. So I have to buy a new one and there's no stock until Wednesday.
01:16:17
Curt
Oh, bummer.
01:16:18
jamie peacock
Speaking of Zencaster, I need to pull money from Patreon for Zencaster today because it goes off account today.
01:16:23
Curt
Wee. me
01:16:25
jamie peacock
You know, the the one month subscription for a year.
01:16:29
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
01:16:30
jamie peacock
Because there is no one month option in Bunch of Thieves.
01:16:30
Curt
Crafty look creatures. Cool.
01:16:33
jamie peacock
But yeah we're to stick with Zencaster for now. I just looked at the dates and I'm like, oh shit.
01:16:36
Curt
Cool.
01:16:38
jamie peacock
But yeah, you know, that that sums up my Google list. ah
01:16:44
Curt
cool
01:16:45
jamie peacock
Where can people find you and your things, Kurt?
01:16:48
Curt
You can find me and my things at confoundedmachine.com, which points to everything, including the show, including merch, including lotteries and emails and whatever other way you want to harass us.
01:17:00
Curt
How about you?
01:17:00
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:17:01
Curt
And soon I'll have a link tree so that you guys can find my OnlyFans as well.
01:17:04
jamie peacock
Nice. Yeah, I think I might need to just make a landing page for myself at some point.
01:17:06
Curt
Yeah.
01:17:08
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, you can find ah you find the dates and happenings of the shop at jspec underscore engineering on Instagram. You can find the knives and shirts at jspeceng.com.
01:17:19
jamie peacock
All the work-holding shenanigans at nauticalwh.com. And the podcast at thelonemachinists.com. I did a better read this week than I did on the guest podcast last week. with AJ.
01:17:30
Curt
You definitely need a link tree. Yeah, you definitely need a link.
01:17:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, I don't know.
01:17:33
Curt
You got a lot of shit.
01:17:33
jamie peacock
of
01:17:34
Curt
ah Okay, so...
01:17:34
jamie peacock
I think I might just spin up a landing page, like jspec-engineering or something.com, and then that can just fucking go to everywhere else. Because buying a domain is pretty cheap.
01:17:45
Curt
ah So we can make fun of AJ for having multiple ah different job or whatever things he's building, businesses.
01:17:51
jamie peacock
Companies.
01:17:53
Curt
And he can make fun of you for having 472 different pages.
01:17:57
jamie peacock
There we go.
01:17:59
Curt
ah
01:17:59
jamie peacock
Yeah, we're actually discussing it. I think we've I might have doubled the number, like said, a number two weeks in a row. Because I'm like, when do I kill the joke? I think we're killing the joke at when it gets to 69 other businesses. So we've got another 30 weeks or so to go.
01:18:10
Curt
hey
01:18:11
jamie peacock
yeah
01:18:13
Curt
oh boy nice
01:18:13
jamie peacock
Oh, geez. So what are you already up to tomorrow since it's the evening for you?
01:18:18
Curt
uh yeah uh tomorrow am going to i have a pen that i'm giving away to a of friend in canada they're doing a big meetup for a local facebook group so anyways i'm donating a prize to that so i'm going to finish that one and get it in the mail because i'm already running low on the end of the month and they're thing is the next month and I don't want it to be caught in the mail.
01:18:38
Curt
Uh, then I'm going to finish this stupid corporate work, which is not stupid. It's lovely. Um, get that out of my hair and then that'll be totally done. And yeah, so just, yeah, production, just production. And I'm going piss around. I'm going to play. i'm going to play with vinyl cutters because that's all I want to do right now.
01:18:52
Curt
Yeah. How about you, man? What'd you have
01:18:55
jamie peacock
list. I've been making a list while we've been podcasting. um Yeah, I need to chase out like follow up with a bunch of customers this morning.
01:18:57
Curt
to do? Oh,
01:19:01
jamie peacock
Got to go to site this morning. Yeah, just like a busy busy general work day lots of being pulled in every direction, entrepreneur in like getting tagged every direction.
01:19:09
Curt
Nice.
01:19:12
jamie peacock
But yeah, like I've got to order NMLS, follow up with customers, and yeah, it's going to be a fun ah fun morning.
01:19:12
Curt
Sick.
01:19:18
jamie peacock
And then take it easy this evening.
01:19:20
Curt
Yeah.
01:19:22
jamie peacock
or Or scan all my slips, which I need to do, because it's almost month-end, and that's due at the end of the month, so have to get on that like this week.
01:19:22
Curt
Nice.
01:19:29
jamie peacock
Because my wife no longer does it because she works.
01:19:32
Curt
I should talk next week about this stupid ERP idea, but anyways, i I'll make a note for next week.
01:19:37
jamie peacock
Ah, yeah.
01:19:39
jamie peacock
ERPs, that might be something I work on in the near term.
01:19:39
Curt
Or maybe the after show.
01:19:40
Curt
Maybe.
01:19:44
jamie peacock
Yeah,
01:19:44
Curt
Yeah.
01:19:45
Curt
maybe I'll talk about it in the after show. We'll see. Who knows? If you'll if if you if you chime in, maybe you'll hear
01:19:49
jamie peacock
yeah maybe.
01:19:50
Curt
Maybe it'll just be me and Jamie riffing on 69 jokes.
01:19:51
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:19:53
Curt
We'll see.
01:19:54
jamie peacock
Probably. But who knows?
01:19:55
jamie peacock
Maybe we'll talk about ERPs as well.
01:19:55
Curt
Probably that.
01:19:58
Curt
Ooh, maybe both.
01:19:59
jamie peacock
Yes, I think we can swing ERP into 69. I have a way to make that that work.
01:20:06
Curt
Okay.
01:20:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:20:07
Curt
I don't know.
01:20:08
jamie peacock
Anyway, on that note, thank you everybody for listening.
01:20:10
Curt
ah
01:20:11
jamie peacock
Patreons, we'll see you in the ERP69 show. And yeah, if you saw our faces and enjoyed it for some reason, thanks for watching on YouTube. Give us a like, subscribe, all those thingies.
01:20:24
jamie peacock
If you've been watching or listening on Spotify, because I don't think we put the video there anymore. But yeah, or Zencaster if you're AJ.
01:20:29
Curt
No.
01:20:31
jamie peacock
Thank you for your listen. If you enjoyed the show, please consider sharing with someone who you think will enjoy it, or someone you think who won't enjoy it. Rage listens, our listens too. But yeah, thank you everyone, and we'll see you next week.
01:20:43
Curt
Take care, all.