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Ep. 62: The Internet Is Forever (And So Are Our Bad Ideas)
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In this episode of the Lone Machinists Podcast, Jamie and Curt once again prove that running a machine shop is mostly problem-solving, mild chaos, and questionable purchasing decisions. Jamie explains how Curt bullied him into buying a gimbal and why filming smooth shop footage is apparently harder than flying a plane, while Curt announces he’s defecting in the AI wars and claims Claude is now the smarter shop assistant. Meanwhile in the real world, Jamie is busy pressing thousands of rivets a week, chasing a mysterious lathe issue that keeps snapping tiny parts, and discovering that the “slightly noisy” spindle on a friend’s lathe was actually being held together by hopes, dreams, and a very destroyed bearing. Along the way they rant about AI scraping YouTube creators, the increasingly weird world of AI voice scams, questionable surface finishes, and why recording hundreds of hours of yourself talking on the internet might one day be the dumbest or smartest thing you ever did.
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- Noughtical Work Holding: https://www.noughticalwh.com/
- Toxing: https://tox.com/en-us/technologies/clinching/clinching
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Transcript
Introduction and Updates
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Loan Machinist's Podcast, where it's just you, your work, and the machines. What have you got going on today, Kurt?
00:00:07
Curt
um This week I'm going to talk about how Claude beats chat for the AI wars, a return of potential weekly videos, and some fidget updates. How about you, Master Jamie?
00:00:16
jamie peacock
We're going to discuss how Kurt made me buy a gimbal, the Emco was dumbing today, and how I'm going to violently violate one of my customers.
00:00:28
jamie peacock
Yes, so...
00:00:28
Curt
No, there's so much, such aggro in
Tech Tools and Workflow Challenges
00:00:31
Curt
your world.
00:00:31
jamie peacock
Yes. How are you this fine day, Kurt?
00:00:35
Curt
doing i'm doing great it's uh daylight savings here now so the time changed for me for what reason i don't know i don't know why we do daylight savings like here we are in the modern age but i went forward in time so usually it's 10 o'clock in the morning here so now it's 11 o'clock in the morning here which like i don't why i don't know but okay yeah
00:00:40
jamie peacock
Oh. Yeah. So did you go back in time now?
00:00:53
jamie peacock
Oh, geez. Okay. Yeah.
00:00:58
jamie peacock
yeah into the the thought of that in South Africa would be hilarious
00:01:03
Curt
like And the funny thing is the provinces on either side of me have both like been like, let's get rid of it. It's stupid. So now we're the like outlier being like, let's keep moving our clocks around like crazy people. like We have lights. like Anyway, whatever.
00:01:18
jamie peacock
savings is rather rather the funny oh jeez yeah so I'm going to dive into my first one there you made me buy a gimbal
00:01:20
Curt
Yeah, it's goofy. Anyway, how you been? Yeah, Rip. Ooh, what'd you buy?
00:01:28
jamie peacock
I don't know, a gimbal off of our local Amazon-type storey. It was on special, so I bought it.
00:01:33
Curt
Oh cool, okay.
00:01:34
jamie peacock
It was like all of $60. sixty dollars on my phone.
00:01:38
Curt
Oh cool.
00:01:38
jamie peacock
I posted a story about it today. Obviously, it'll be gone by the time the podcast comes out now. But yeah, there'll be some footage of it of it doing gimbal things. Turns out you can't be like this with a gimbal shaking it because it can't keep up. You've got to still be kind of smooth.
00:01:53
jamie peacock
So I'm coming to terms of how to move it in such a way that it'll point where I want um in the different modes and things.
00:01:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:02:01
jamie peacock
It's got a little toggly toggly but That confuses the shit out of me because I'm like, oh, I want the camera to point up. No. Yeah. It's opposite to the, I want the phone to go in the way I push it, but no, the it pans up.
00:02:14
jamie peacock
Yeah. So it's a little bit mind bendy, but I'm getting used to it. The only problem you can't shoot Instagram footage with a direct Instagram because you have to hold the button.
00:02:20
Curt
I'm assuming...
00:02:27
Curt
okay, okay.
00:02:27
jamie peacock
on the Instagram app. So I've got a shoot. So I've got, I changed my workflow for filming with the phone. I bought Type-C to, Type-C on one end and Type-A on the other side, flash drive. So I can film, put on the flash drive, put on the PC and then edit.
00:02:44
Curt
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:02:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, instead of USB cable to the PC, I can just quickly dump it onto the flash drive.
00:02:50
Curt
Oh, okay. I see what you, I see.
00:02:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:02:53
jamie peacock
ah job But yeah, the gimbal takes some serious getting used to.
00:02:53
Curt
Yeah. i know Well, you're probably like like you're like, you fly planes too. So like I know like anytime I play a video game, I always have to invert like invert Y. I always invert Y because i just like that's how my brain works.
00:03:03
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:06
Curt
Pull back is up. That's how it works. And same with the gimbal I have. It has a joystick that lets you move around. And I'm like, no, I need to pull like i need to pull up, not push up. like That's for crazy people anyways.
00:03:15
jamie peacock
but So yeah, like you push up, it's camera go up.
00:03:16
Curt
so
00:03:18
jamie peacock
And yeah're in my mind, that's the wrong fucking way.
00:03:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:03:21
jamie peacock
So I've been, I was playing with the dogs with it yesterday in the garden and getting smooth footage of them running around chasing balls and things.
00:03:21
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:03:27
jamie peacock
Just, just playing with it for fun. Like
Innovations and AI Insights
00:03:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:03:30
jamie peacock
I've wanted one for a while and I'm now getting to play with one.
00:03:34
jamie peacock
I also bought a scale from a local Amazon type story.
00:03:34
Curt
Oh. Ooh.
00:03:38
jamie peacock
What 150 kilogram scale.
00:03:41
Curt
Oh, okay, for like shipping and stuff like that, or?
00:03:43
jamie peacock
No, for keeping track of parts that we're doing.
00:03:47
Curt
Oh, cool. Okay, yeah, that's a good idea.
00:03:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, so put a crate on it. When you get to X number, there's 100 parts in dump them into a bag. And we know how many hundreds we've done in a day. Because we are now processing 5,000 assemblies a day, a week. Sorry, not day, a week.
00:04:02
jamie peacock
We're putting in 10,000 rivets a week.
00:04:05
Curt
that so much to count. I get it.
00:04:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, scales.
00:04:08
Curt
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.
00:04:10
jamie peacock
Throw it in a scale.
00:04:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:04:12
jamie peacock
But yeah, we're doing 10,000 of those a week. ah too 10,000 rivets a week? think, yes. That is the current plan. And then we're going to take on another part of the process and then that'll drop down.
00:04:25
jamie peacock
So the goal is 2,500 parts a week. So that's 5,000 rivets and then 5,000 toxin.
00:04:30
Curt
that's That's a fair.
00:04:33
jamie peacock
Toxin is fucking cool. but don't know if you've ever heard of this process.
00:04:35
Curt
Toxing.
00:04:37
jamie peacock
Toxin, yes.
00:04:37
Curt
No.
00:04:38
jamie peacock
It's from the company TOX. It basically you've got a DA set, you put two pieces of sheet metal in, it presses through and then presses it into a dovetail. it dovetails the two pieces of material together in like a little round rivety looking like a little round punch out but ah it dovetails the pieces of material.
00:04:55
Curt
okay
00:04:56
jamie peacock
Really interesting process. um We got hold of a pneumatic over hydraulic setup to run that so we are doing testing and then going to probably bring that in house.
00:05:07
jamie peacock
And then our throughput is only 500 parts a day because it takes forever.
00:05:08
Curt
Oh, wild. Okay.
00:05:12
jamie peacock
It's slower than spot welding, but a lot less power consumption and a lot less consumables.
00:05:12
Curt
Weird.
00:05:18
Curt
Oh, cool. Interesting.
00:05:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:05:19
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's a really cool it's a really cool process.
00:05:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:20
Curt
no I've never heard of that.
00:05:23
jamie peacock
We tried to make toxin dyes a little while ago and no success. It's kind of like the relationship between the bottom bore and the top is like super critical.
00:05:35
Curt
Hmm. Okay.
00:05:37
jamie peacock
So I will make sure there's a link for anyone who's interested in it because it's a really interesting process.
00:05:39
Curt
Oh.
00:05:41
jamie peacock
They use it a lot in manufacturing of appliances. Putting sheet metal sections together in appliances.
00:05:47
Curt
Hmm.
00:05:48
jamie peacock
there Instead of riveting it or this is a literally just punches the thing and joins the two sheet metals together.
00:05:56
Curt
Interesting.
00:05:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, really interesting.
00:05:57
Curt
Yeah, I've never heard of that.
00:05:57
jamie peacock
So we're just making a fan mobs. So it's two pieces of formed sheet metal. We put two rivets in and they get tocks together or spot welded together and they shove a stick up its ring and put a mop on the end.
00:06:10
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:06:11
jamie peacock
So yeah, and I have ah Simon in my workshop all the time. It's great.
00:06:17
jamie peacock
It's the best.
00:06:18
Curt
I can tell by your face that you like that.
00:06:19
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's
00:06:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:22
jamie peacock
It's brought some challenges in that I have to be there every afternoon to let them out and every morning to let them in. And just some of the logistical limitations that's now imposed on me because have to be there to let them in, I have to be there to let them out.
00:06:37
Curt
Right.
00:06:37
jamie peacock
So, yeah, it's ruined my free schedule.
00:06:38
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:43
jamie peacock
But whatever, that's what it is. It makes me lots of money, so I don't mind.
00:06:47
Curt
Yeah, and I guess it's probably not forever, or maybe it is forever, like who whatever year.
00:06:49
jamie peacock
It is forever. At this point, it is forever.
00:06:51
Curt
Oh.
00:06:51
jamie peacock
But at a certain point, I'll just be like, there's a fucking gate remote coming in work.
00:06:55
Curt
Okay, okay.
00:06:56
jamie peacock
And, like, time bomb on my gate. So it only works. The remote only works during certain time periods.
00:07:02
Curt
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:02
jamie peacock
Like, all that functionality is built into my gate already. so But, yeah, we'll see. We'll get to that point. If it's ongoing work, then, yeah, why not? May as well just... ah Yeah. I don't mind having them around. It's just messing with my...
00:07:16
jamie peacock
My logistical freedoms. It means I can't go fishing in the week anymore. Because I need someone yet to let them in.
00:07:23
Curt
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:23
jamie peacock
Yeah. That is what it is
00:07:24
Curt
Well, like you said, that's that's easy to easy to automate if it comes down to that point.
00:07:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:29
Curt
Or give them a key, like the old school method of automation.
00:07:29
jamie peacock
100%. Yeah.
00:07:33
Curt
Be like, here's a key.
00:07:35
jamie peacock
No, we'll cross that bridge when we need to. But yeah, we've been pressing a shitload of bots. He did 800 bots today. arrived at 850. He arrived late this morning because someone threw a brick through his taxi on the way to work.
00:07:51
jamie peacock
about taxi I mean minibus taxi with probably 30 people in it someone one of the other taxi drivers or something threw a brick through the window and then there was a shootout so he got the fuck out of the taxi as soon as he could ran away and left his lunch in the taxi so it was exciting yeah yeah Africa not for the faint of heart
00:07:51
Curt
thought
00:08:07
Curt
Yikes. Yeah, that's aggressive.
00:08:13
Curt
Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.
00:08:14
jamie peacock
no because this morning i was like fuck where's the soak he's now like half an hour late what's going arrives like no no sorry someone like threw a brick through the window while they were driving and hit the one lady in the face and then there was a shootout and i'm like yeah that's a monday morning like africa yeah so
00:08:14
Curt
Different worlds.
00:08:31
Curt
yeah yeah i'm kind i'm not gonna complain about ah our slightly yeah a little bit of traffic or whatnot yeah yikes
00:08:36
jamie peacock
yeah yeah no it's it's insane But yeah, that's ah that's been the shenanigans. So you've been using Claude.
00:08:45
Curt
sick yeah so like i last week i flipped from flipped from chat which apparently i've been reading things and like a bajillion people are doing that i don't know if that's going to make any kind of impact but uh
00:08:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:08:56
Curt
And i've a ton of people have also sent me messages. Just Google it, people. Like, you can make your own decisions. You can... It's very obvious to see what they did. I just try to... I try to be apolitical or whatever on here.
00:09:07
Curt
But, yeah. Not something i want to support. Anyways, um I should have jumped to Claude, like, forever ago. Because for the work I do, it is so much better. Like, if you were listening to this and you're doing, like, coding or, like, high technical stuff, give Claude a try.
00:09:21
jamie peacock
Much better.
00:09:22
Curt
it is... It's way less, like... like iTunes chat to be like, don't like, don't compliment me. Don't call me a good boy. Like, just give me the data. I just treat me like if I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong. Don't try to like protect my feelings. And even still, it was very like, you're on the right track. You're doing such a good job. Like, are you, you're such a smart boy. and I'm like, and Claude is just like, here's the answer. I'm like, that's what I wanted.
00:09:46
Curt
That's all I wanted.
00:09:46
jamie peacock
I have typed some very vulgar things to ChatGPT when it's like, oh, sorry about that.
00:09:47
Curt
And I'm like,
00:09:51
jamie peacock
I'm like, wake the fuck up. Like, do what I asked you? Yeah. I've pretty much stopped using chats at this point. It's fucking useless. um I say that, and I think there are two chat windows open right now.
00:10:05
jamie peacock
Oh, no, those are Notebook.LMs that Danik has got open yet.
00:10:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:09
jamie peacock
Because Notebook.LM, you can also point at the World Wide Web. So... It's great.
00:10:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:13
jamie peacock
Like we're using it. I was using it this weekend with with calls machine. Gave it the manual.
00:10:18
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:10:19
jamie peacock
Type in the parameter, it pulls up all information for the parameter. There's no check this parameter top the parameter number, it pulls up all information for that. And I managed to pass through the manual and mess with all the tuning settings on his servers.
00:10:32
Curt
Nice.
00:10:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's super, super powerful, whereas chat will literally just tell you the wrong shit.
00:10:34
Curt
Yeah. I'm... Well, and like there's just simple things. Like even with Claude, it'd be like, like for a specific conversation, you can be like, oh, just reference this PDF.
00:10:45
Curt
And it's like, roger that. Like, I'll do that. And like, it just, i don't know. Everything is...
00:10:48
jamie peacock
That's cool. Yeah.
00:10:49
Curt
better and like oddly enough i was using i like to use it for um like i'm trying to design a new sticker so i like to help like i like to use it to generate me concept art so i can look at it and then i can draw it so it's less ai sloppy and and uh chat is always pretty it's been good at it but it's like it always cranks out slop whereas like i put a a vector file into claude and i'm like hey i want to put like a digital glitch pattern on this um like can you help me out like what do you think i should run for like filters and i told it the photo editing software i'm using And it's like, how about we write a Python script that actually digitally glitches your image?
00:11:23
Curt
And I'm like, oh, that is so cool. Because yeah, like the best way to digitally glitch something is to digitally do it.
00:11:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:30
Curt
So yeah it wrote this humongous program with a bajillion variables that I can tweak. So now I can like put an image in and then I run, I'm running it all on Linux and like stretch and skew and do all kinds of weird stuff. And I'm like, this is so cool. Like, why didn't I think you could use code for image generate, like for image manipulation?
00:11:47
Curt
And yeah, it it makes way more sense. Cause it's not like, it's not just like, here's something I made. And it's like, okay, can you iterate on that? It's like, like now at least you have something concrete. You can be like, can you change this variable? And like, yeah, it's, I'm doing it all locally now.
00:11:59
Curt
Um, just because I have the code, but yeah, I'm going to do that much more. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't realize you could edit photos so hard with code alone and my brain works better in, in code land than does you know, artwork kind of stuff.
00:12:11
Curt
So yeah, it was cool. It was really cool.
00:12:13
jamie peacock
that's interesting yeah that's really really interesting but yeah i've heard that claude's way better like everyone says claude claude claude um yeah yeah no right now in the current situation because that shit changes on like a weekly basis
00:12:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:22
Curt
It's so much better. It's so much better. Right now. Right now anyways. Yeah.
00:12:32
Curt
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No.
00:12:34
jamie peacock
speaking of ar things i don't know if you watch cloud 42 on youtube
00:12:35
Curt
um
00:12:39
Curt
I subscribed to him. i I don't know if I caught his recent.
00:12:41
jamie peacock
he put a video out on sunday um okay he was basically he's like no he's on vacation because he's full-time job and then still keeping a weekly upload schedule
00:12:44
Curt
No, I missed it then.
00:12:54
jamie peacock
It's like it's cool. And they're not short videos. It's quite intense. And you're saying the issue now a lot of creators are like science communication creators are leaving the platform because they used to be able to put six months into a video and put the video out and get ad revenue and like survive and like make a living.
00:12:54
Curt
Ragged, yeah, yeah.
00:13:13
jamie peacock
And now the problem is you put that video out and an hour later, there's 20 videos
00:13:14
Curt
Mm-hmm.
Tech Issues and Family Safety
00:13:19
jamie peacock
summarizing it badly with random images.
00:13:22
jamie peacock
And you've done all the legwork like documentaries, ah building cool projects, shit like that.
00:13:22
Curt
Mm.
00:13:27
jamie peacock
It's just getting scraped and pumped out with random images. I was watching something on the South African nuclear program. And I'm looking at these pictures. and I'm like, Yeah, that's not right.
00:13:38
jamie peacock
That's definitely not right. the demographic of people there is very much not correct for the time period when that was happening and there's a whole bunch of like images and i'm like that's not correct that's not correct uh they basically took someone else's documentary and summarized it i only realized like 40 minutes in but it yeah it's sad that that is what's happening you put out a video like you put six months into working on it you put it out and it gets copied and thrown around the internet and that's where the ad revenue goes
00:13:55
Curt
Oh, gross.
00:14:08
jamie peacock
because they are better optimized for drawing your attention in.
00:14:08
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. That's
00:14:12
jamie peacock
That's kind of sad.
00:14:12
Curt
yeah. How do you fight? How do you fight that? Right? Like that's yeah.
00:14:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's the thing.
00:14:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:16
jamie peacock
Like he was saying, if it wasn't for his patrons, he wouldn't still make videos.
00:14:22
Curt
Oh, I totally get that. Yeah.
00:14:23
jamie peacock
Because, yeah, the ad revenue, there's nothing.
00:14:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:26
Curt
Oh yeah. Like it's look at any YouTuber that's doing anything and they're either slinging product or something else.
00:14:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:35
Curt
Cause yeah, there's, I mean, there, there is money in the advertising still, but it's nothing like, yeah, yeah it dwarfs.
00:14:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:39
jamie peacock
Nothing like juice drink.
00:14:41
Curt
Yeah. know If that someone reaches out to you, you get way more money that way. So that's why, that's why everyone's slinging product.
00:14:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:47
Curt
Not a little bit hypocritical as I'm slinging to products that customer sent me or that company sent me.
00:14:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:52
Curt
But besides the point, yeah.
00:14:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no, it's but you understand why they like Linus Tech Tips when they started doing the baked in ads. The community was an uproar, but that's how they kept the lights on because they couldn't rely on Google or YouTube ad revenue to be stable.
00:15:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:08
jamie peacock
So they started baking in their own ad reads and that's the reason they stayed open.
00:15:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:13
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:15:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, and it's at least then you know what you're in. You know, in that case, you know who's being advertised on your video because you sold them the ad spot.
00:15:24
jamie peacock
Like it's not some random crap in the front of your video.
00:15:28
Curt
yeah
00:15:28
jamie peacock
But yeah, I don't see ads. I don't really care.
00:15:32
Curt
Yeah, I... Yeah, whatever. It's a changing world.
00:15:35
jamie peacock
It's...
00:15:36
Curt
Everything changes. Everything evolves.
00:15:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, there's some interesting changes coming. I think those we'll keep for the after show. Yeah, it's a bit of an arsey thing to discuss in the main show.
00:15:45
Curt
Dun, dun, dun. What else do you got on your list of... Oh, oh yeah, that's going to be spicy. Yeah, okay.
00:15:53
jamie peacock
Yes, it is.
00:15:53
Curt
That's good after-show topic for everybody.
00:15:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, we've got some indications on what it's going to be in the next few weeks. um Yeah, so, pick
00:15:59
Curt
Ragged. Let me see. What do you got here?
00:16:02
jamie peacock
Yes, do. one
00:16:04
Curt
You got a million topics, so I'm going pick one.
00:16:05
jamie peacock
yeah
00:16:06
Curt
ah Good Ways of Beast. Tell me why the Good Ways of Beast...
00:16:08
jamie peacock
It is a beast. I was making grab screws for my mates who I need to convince to let me rotary broach them because they're now having to mill them. It's a fucking ballgame. um we used to do them on Bertha Bertha did them fine except you couldn't go slow enough like I couldn't get a slow enough RPM so I used to burn up drills and yeah burn through like 30 parts in friggin two hours uh while doing other stuff like you just set it up and it just fucking runs it's great uh yeah it's a piece of land I don't use it that much because I haven't had the that much work that is meant that
00:16:39
Curt
Nice.
00:16:46
jamie peacock
haven't had that many orders for the part that machine was bought for. But yeah, whenever I run it, it runs really well. It's super rigid. I like it.
00:16:54
Curt
That's nice. Yeah, that helps.
00:16:54
jamie peacock
I've got the collared chuck back on now, so I'm going to be drilling the three-jaw chuck riser. I'm going to drill three holes from the sides so that I can make it a set-true style of riser.
00:17:08
jamie peacock
So I can dial in easily, dial in the the run-out.
00:17:08
Curt
Gotcha.
00:17:12
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:17:13
jamie peacock
So that's on the list of of many things to do because we have long lists.
00:17:13
Curt
Nice.
00:17:18
jamie peacock
ah just sticking with the Sticking with the lathe topic, the M code today.
00:17:19
Curt
Fair.
00:17:22
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:17:25
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:17:25
jamie peacock
I'm turning buttons for Dutchman squeeze boxes. So 6mm and then it drops down to 2.6. And I made a whole bunch of 5mm and then next down to 2.6. And I set up the 6mm and it ran fine. Yet now on Sunday.
00:17:43
jamie peacock
No, Saturday. Fuck. Whenever the hell I ran them, Friday. Came to run them this morning. Set up, runs the first one, lackey, leave it to run, go look in the chip. But I'm like, hey, are there no parts? It was doing something stupid when it was, so it was doing a grooving cycle, then it was coming back to cut to final size, and it was breaking the parts off.
00:18:02
jamie peacock
So i ended up resetting it.
00:18:02
Curt
OK.
00:18:04
jamie peacock
ah still don't know why it was breaking the parts off. Like slowed it down, still breaks the parts off. Changed the entry, still broke the parts off. Eventually reposted the code and just so because I had messed with the code quite a bit by that point.
00:18:15
jamie peacock
Stuck in new code, slowed it down a little bit and now it's running. But yeah, don't know what the shit was going on. Like just, it would come in to do the final pass and the part would break off because it's only now 2.61 millimeters in diameter.
00:18:30
jamie peacock
So it was just snapping off.
00:18:31
Curt
OK, yeah.
00:18:31
jamie peacock
So yeah I don't know if it's per bar that this is happening, like there's shitty sections of the extruded bar or what the what the thing is, but yeah, it was quite frustrating to deal with today, because I need to make like another 350 of those parts before I can machine pull studs that I need to machine on the EMCO.
00:18:50
Curt
Okay.
00:18:51
jamie peacock
Because I don't want to change setups just don't change setups Like
00:18:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:56
jamie peacock
I can probably butcher my way through the pull studs and not ruin the setup too much, but I'd rather finish it then move on to the next job.
00:19:05
Curt
what What flavor material was this?
00:19:07
jamie peacock
Aluminium just extruded 8mm bar.
00:19:08
Curt
Oh, okay. Weird.
00:19:10
jamie peacock
So I don't know. It was really weird. And then all of a sudden it was fine. So I don't know if it's just a section of the bar that was shitty or what the situation is.
00:19:15
Curt
Oh.
00:19:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:20
jamie peacock
It's rather, rather strange.
00:19:21
Curt
Huh. Bizarre.
00:19:22
jamie peacock
So I don't know.
00:19:23
Curt
Yeah, that's weird.
00:19:24
jamie peacock
I turned the insert around. I put a new insert because I thought maybe the insert's dulled. Shouldn't be, but maybe the insert's dulled. And no, I don't know. It was just dumbing.
00:19:33
Curt
Hmm. Weird.
00:19:34
jamie peacock
So yeah.
00:19:34
Curt
Okay. Especially, yeah, especially in a bar, like along a bar.
00:19:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:37
Curt
It's even weirder. Yeah.
00:19:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, I mean, it is extruded bar, so they take a slug and they shove it through a DA. um So it could be between slugs that you've got a bit of funny in business, but I don't know.
00:19:49
jamie peacock
It was for like half a bar that it was just being done.
00:19:49
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:51
Curt
Hmm.
00:19:53
jamie peacock
And then I messed with the code bit and tweaked a few things and eventually got it running reliably.
00:19:54
Curt
Hmm.
00:20:00
Curt
No, that's good. Yeah.
00:20:01
jamie peacock
Yeah, at least that's done.
00:20:04
Curt
Oops.
00:20:04
jamie peacock
Hmm.
00:20:05
jamie peacock
Now...
00:20:05
Curt
Oops.
00:20:05
Curt
What the fuck am I doing here?
00:20:06
jamie peacock
What did you do?
00:20:07
Curt
Sorry. Sorry.
00:20:07
jamie peacock
was quite skillful.
00:20:08
Curt
I don't know what, I don't know how i did that. Anyways. Sorry.
00:20:10
jamie peacock
Yeah. I see you are potentially bringing back the weekly videos.
00:20:18
Curt
I'm having so much fun just shooting video. And like, I've, I've made it easy for myself now, like with this, with this gimbal. And then with like, I leave all my like video tripod set up.
00:20:28
Curt
Like I have one that's just ah like a, a pan, not a pan, sorry. A um a slider.
00:20:33
jamie peacock
The slider.
00:20:35
jamie peacock
Yes, I saw you use that and your video while you were you were doing something and the the camera was shooting sideways.
00:20:35
Curt
have one sitting on a tripod ready to go.
00:20:38
Curt
I don't even know if I,
00:20:43
Curt
Oh yeah, exactly. Like it's it's set up, it's good to go. I have one pan, one set up, it's good to go. I have a regular tripod, it's set up, it's good to go. I have this gimbal set up, it's good to go. And the camera just jumps between all of them like with a quick plate.
00:20:54
Curt
Like I've made it so that if if I want to just video something while I'm working, it's infinitely easier.
00:20:54
jamie peacock
Nice.
00:20:58
Curt
And then at the end of the week, I have, you know, a hundred clips of b-roll and it's really easy to edit something together and like i said even if nobody watched it i like this for my own like personal journaling just like these podcasts they're fun because like we kind of get to document going forward and uh and put it out there and maybe someone will learn from it but it's just like the process of creating is fun for me whether it be physical or digital so it's like i don't know i'm digging it i forgot how much i liked it and it just makes my it makes my world better it makes me happier
00:21:21
jamie peacock
yeah so
00:21:26
jamie peacock
yeah well making happy is kind of important uh grimsma was saying he one of their friends popped by and he's their friend is re-listening to the bomb from the beginning and he's currently at the linda wheel saga
00:21:30
Curt
Yeah, absolutely.
00:21:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:41
jamie peacock
And it's like, Grims-Word had forgotten about that.
00:21:41
Curt
Right. I heard that. Yeah.
00:21:43
jamie peacock
It's like, no, here's the linda wheel. He took it out of his drawer. Like, that was in the past.
00:21:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:47
jamie peacock
It was long, long ago. and yeah, it's kind of interesting to go back and have the archive of what was going on through time, basically.
00:21:57
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Like, I think it's, yeah, it's interesting.
00:21:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:00
jamie peacock
think it'll be interesting to look back on this in a few years' time and see what what stupid shit we were saying.
00:22:00
Curt
And yeah.
00:22:06
Curt
Totally. Right. Like it's just,
00:22:06
jamie peacock
Even looking at my ma shop tour from 2019, it's like, fuck, this clown doesn't know what the fuck's coming.
00:22:13
Curt
Yeah, yeah. And it's like, and it's it's there forever.
00:22:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:16
Curt
Like, it's it's on the internet forever. I mean, by the way, dude, me and you are so hosed.
00:22:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:20
Curt
Like, we have our voice and our faces online now of like hundreds of hours.
00:22:23
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:22:25
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:22:25
Curt
um Maybe not hundreds.
00:22:26
Curt
Yeah, probably a hundred plus hours.
00:22:27
jamie peacock
We, yeah.
00:22:28
Curt
Like, someone could recreate us in AI so easily.
00:22:28
jamie peacock
So we have this, yeah. So we we have literally set up SafeWords with both mine and Annika's family. That if someone phones them saying, hey, I'm stuck here, I need some money or whatever, what's the safe word?
00:22:37
Curt
Oh, good idea.
00:22:42
jamie peacock
That we can validate because it's not only me and my family.
00:22:42
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:45
jamie peacock
It's me, my mom, and my brother are all on the internet. My mom posts on a daily basis. My brother is a brand representative for a fishing tackle company. So there's hours of him online talking about the new products.
00:22:56
jamie peacock
There's me every freaking week for an hour.
00:22:57
Curt
Sure.
00:22:58
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, it's... So I told Danica's family that I have a friend who got scammed like this because they won't believe me if I don't.
00:23:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:06
jamie peacock
um So we set up safe words with families because you have to so that if you get a random phone call, because the voice generation and the video is pretty fucking good these days.
00:23:07
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:23:15
jamie peacock
And that was a scam that was happening in your side of the world.
00:23:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:18
jamie peacock
In Canada, where a bunch of the influencers families were getting because your number gets leaked whatever. And then they would phone your families, hey, I'm stuck here.
00:23:25
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:23:27
jamie peacock
Can you just Venmo me some money so that I can get my car fixed or get a bus or whatever. And then they'd Venmo the money and wasn't the real person.
00:23:33
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:23:36
Curt
Mm-hmm. Yeah, it would be so easy.
00:23:36
jamie peacock
Because every week there's a new scam.
00:23:40
Curt
Yeah, like, yeah, it's terrible.
00:23:40
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, we kind of hosed but yeah, that's why safe words.
00:23:42
Curt
I know, i've watched...
00:23:43
Curt
I forgot...
00:23:46
Curt
Well, i forgot which YouTuber was watching, but he like he flipped himself into Keanu Reeves just for like 10 seconds on this video. And it's like, that is so... like it's It's very convincing. like If I watched it closely, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, not right.
00:23:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:58
Curt
But if you're just glancing, watching, you'd be like, yeah, of course.
00:23:59
jamie peacock
Sure.
00:24:00
Curt
And like if I showed that to my parents, they'd be like 100%.
00:24:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:04
Curt
They would 100% agree. It's just like, we live in a strange world.
00:24:05
jamie peacock
Yeah. So the issue we run into is Danica is the youngest child by like 13 years. So her siblings are both old enough to think they know what they're doing with technology when they really fucking don't.
00:24:14
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:24:21
jamie peacock
Like, they really have no cooking clue. And that's a very dangerous combination.
00:24:28
jamie peacock
when they think they know what they're doing and they don't. So, yeah, we... Unfortunately, it falls to Danica and I to make sure our families are total fucking idiots. Which is very difficult.
00:24:28
Curt
Yeah, fair.
00:24:39
Curt
Yeah, I know it's...
00:24:39
jamie peacock
Especially considering your brother only has half a brain. At least he has an excuse.
00:24:46
Curt
What's his excuse?
00:24:47
jamie peacock
That he has half a brain. He had brain tumour.
00:24:50
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:24:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:24:51
Curt
Legitimately has a half a brain.
00:24:52
jamie peacock
Legitimately.
00:24:52
Curt
Okay. yeah
00:24:53
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, no.
00:24:53
Curt
Yeah, pass.
00:24:54
jamie peacock
That's...
00:24:54
jamie peacock
that done Yeah. It's says fucking... yeah Yeah, he had a brain tumour three years ago. and then, yeah, fucking, yeah, chemo and radiation, all that shit, and, yeah, his speech is deteriorating again.
00:24:54
Curt
Okay.
00:25:03
Curt
Right. You told me that. Yeah.
00:25:08
jamie peacock
But, yeah, anyway, that's going to be fun conversations when we get to take his keys away.
00:25:10
Curt
Oh, shitty.
00:25:13
jamie peacock
Because at a certain point, sorry, bro, you can't drive. You're not driving with my nephews in the car. But that's hopefully a few years away still.
00:25:23
Curt
Yeah, yeah. No, exactly.
00:25:24
jamie peacock
It'll coincide right with my mother-in-law when I get to take her keys away too.
00:25:25
Curt
it's
00:25:29
jamie peacock
Now I will not get in the car if she's driving.
00:25:29
Curt
You seem more happier about that.
00:25:31
jamie peacock
Not a fuck. Not a fuck. If we go somewhere, I drive. Like, I like being alive.
00:25:31
Curt
Yeah, yeah,
00:25:36
Curt
yeah, okay.
00:25:37
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway. um
00:25:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:39
jamie peacock
Speaking of your family, Carl's Lath.
00:25:43
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:25:44
jamie peacock
His bearings are slightly used. We can sell them as a slightly used on eBay. So I was there on Saturday and we were tired of peopling. So we went to play with his lathe. He's been getting surface artifact, like surface finish.
00:25:57
jamie peacock
Just looks shitty. Holding size, but the surface just... it's got a pattern to it. Let's put it that way. And if you crank it up like to 2000 rippums, it looks like shit. 1000 RPM, looks a bit better.
00:26:10
jamie peacock
So i'm like, okay, maybe this is your servo being coupled to the, uh, spindle motion because he does everything in feed per rev maybe it's just a dirty encoder signal that we it's causing a bit of jitter whatever so we went feed per millimeter same story adjusted the um the rigidity of the servo so basically the pib tube adjusted that up till the thing alarmed out down till it was set to zero same thing so eventually i was like okay carl i'm fairly certain it's your spindle bearings at this point like we're trying to avoid stripping a spindle
00:26:23
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:26:46
jamie peacock
You're to need to pull spindle apart. So yesterday he proceeded to take a spindle apart. um The front bearing, oh I'm going to be that one who plays on the phone on the podcast.
00:27:02
jamie peacock
Got to dance.
00:27:03
Curt
and um ah okay yeah it's what We we
00:27:04
jamie peacock
I'll send Kurt a picture quickly. If I have a picture, think might just be a VJO. Yeah, VJO it is. There's quickly search Kurt here. This is such professionalism.
00:27:16
Curt
we could cut it out and post but we won't
00:27:19
jamie peacock
we won't because that costs extra points with my wife there you go sent you a video quickly so anyway he got a spindle out turns out the cylindrical roller bearing is a tapered seat roller bearing so the ID is actually tapered and sits on the tapered section of the spindle shaft but have a look at that race
00:27:23
Curt
okay
00:27:33
Curt
Okay.
00:27:38
Curt
Okay. Yeah. some
00:27:43
Curt
oh
00:27:45
jamie peacock
yeah yeah
00:27:46
jamie peacock
yeah
00:27:46
Curt
It looks like someone made it with their teeth.
00:27:50
jamie peacock
Dude, slightly fucked. So yeah, that that we're getting a bearing tomorrow.
00:27:52
Curt
Dude.
00:27:54
jamie peacock
We're going to go reassemble a spindle. The angular contacts at the, or the precision angular contacts at the back of the spindle are okay. The front is, the set cylindrical roller bearing is fucked.
00:28:01
Curt
Okay.
00:28:05
jamie peacock
So yeah, we're going to go put a new one in tomorrow, and then his lathe will hopefully make pretty finishes.
00:28:06
Curt
That
00:28:11
Curt
was amazing if was making any kind of finishes with that.
00:28:12
jamie peacock
Because was looking at my...
00:28:14
Curt
Yeah, looks ragged.
00:28:14
jamie peacock
The spindle's always been noisy. Since we got it's always been noisy. So I'm like, eh, it's the timing belt. It was not the timing belt. It was that. So we that bearing was not cheap. It was like Wait, where's the power cable for my pair of One moment, please.
00:28:31
jamie peacock
We are plugging in.
00:28:31
Curt
a big bearing, too.
00:28:32
jamie peacock
80 ball, 125 OD, wide.
00:28:32
Curt
like that looks That looks like what? Maybe like? Okay, I was saying like a 100 mil bearing or something that. So yeah, that's sizable.
00:28:39
jamie peacock
anymore bor it's fucking huge
00:28:39
Curt
Or four inches for the savage among you.
00:28:44
jamie peacock
That's a $270 bearing.
00:28:47
Curt
was up there. Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:49
jamie peacock
That is from the only place we could find them locally.
00:28:53
Curt
Yeah, fair.
00:28:53
jamie peacock
And we told them, we phoned somewhere else, we're like, go and get for like four and half. They're like, oh, we were going quote you like 10 because they all it's a very special bearing apparently. But yeah, it's ah it's got a tapered ball.
00:29:04
jamie peacock
So it drops onto the shaft and then seats onto a taper. It's really fucking and creepy. um
00:29:10
Curt
ah
00:29:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, so we're going to, the bearing's being delivered to me tomorrow, then I'm going to in my truck, go to Carl, maybe with Kamish, the guy about Bertha, because he's kind of bored. And then three of us will go and reassemble spindle for him.
00:29:23
Curt
Fun.
00:29:23
jamie peacock
And then he'll be back up and running. But yeah, like the the thing was fucked. So he'll be hopefully back up and running and getting better surface finishes. Because he's holding sides. it's just the surface finish looks shitty.
00:29:33
jamie peacock
And we've been trying to figure out why. And well, guess what? If your bearing's fucked, that's why. um So hopefully his machine will be a bit quieter as well. And then he can run at 2,000 rippings. Because he's running a little brass ship at 1,000
00:29:47
Curt
Ooh, yeah.
00:29:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm like, no, dude, fucking, Chuck can take two and a thousand. That's what limited your machine to. Run it two and half.
00:29:53
jamie peacock
Like, use all the rippings.
00:29:54
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
00:29:54
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:56
jamie peacock
So yeah, hopefully we'll have him have them all sorted out tomorrow. And then he can be making parts again. Like, he had a bit of a lull in production.
00:30:02
Curt
Nice, yeah. i
00:30:03
jamie peacock
like he The work in the machine's not super urgent. So he's like, okay, now's the chance. Pull this thing quickly. Let's get it fixed. Because he's got a whole bunch of stainless bolts he needs to make later this week.
00:30:11
Curt
Mm-mm-mm.
00:30:15
jamie peacock
So he kind of wants a nice surface finish because he had to sand the finish to get it nice. So now hopefully he can just have it nice. But yeah, fun times.
00:30:15
Curt
OK.
00:30:24
Curt
fair Yeah.
00:30:26
jamie peacock
I'm trying to decide.
00:30:28
Curt
Which one do you want to play with? You want to.
00:30:31
jamie peacock
Let's play with Kayleigh's cans.
00:30:33
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:30:33
jamie peacock
Because you worded it that way, you left me only one option.
00:30:34
Curt
So.
00:30:37
jamie peacock
Although I feel like would appreciate that joke.
00:30:38
Curt
ah it's Oh, I'm sure she would. ah So yeah, for those who don't know, follow Kaylee Cans on YouTube. She's doing some cool videos. um But there's I don't know why this never dawned on me. um There's one instance where she's putting some like raw stock through a centerless grinder.
00:30:57
Curt
I always thought like centerless grinders were like a commitment. like You had to have a facility for one of these machines. Because the ones I've seen are always big centerless grinders for like high precision work.
00:31:07
jamie peacock
So yeah, high precision. Hers is just a centerless grinding finishing machine.
00:31:13
Curt
Yeah, I should call it a centerless polisher whatever.
00:31:13
jamie peacock
So just scotch wrouting the OD.
00:31:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:31:16
Curt
Yeah. I just didn't realize that like a centerless polisher would work. And honestly, for like a lot of my pens, like for instance, I do like an anodizing on this pen, and then i strip away all the high surfaces with just hand polishing.
00:31:26
jamie peacock
Yes. And the way you do that's really cool.
00:31:30
Curt
Yeah, and it's tedious. like It doesn't take a ton of time.
00:31:32
jamie peacock
Well, yeah, it would be really cool if had to do one.
00:31:35
Curt
Yeah, if you had to one, it's no problem. But like when you're doing, you know, you do 50 of these, like I put a podcast on, but by the end of it, I'm just like, my fingers hurt. I'm like, this is not sustainable. I mean, kind of is sustainable because it doesn't really take that long, but I don't like to do it. So I like to get rid of the things I don't like to do. And I didn't even realize that like you could buy a small like centerless polisher, which is just like two wheels that run. One's abrasive, one's rubbery and just feed your bar stock through there. And then just like, for me, I don't care if like I could just use a really fine finish. It's not going to like mangle the tolerance.
00:32:05
Curt
All I'm doing is just polishing the edge. So anyways, I might look more into that because that seems like a nice way to go.
00:32:11
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, no, no, definitely.
00:32:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:14
jamie peacock
Especially if you just want that brushed cylindrical finish.
00:32:14
Curt
So that's all I want is a brush. I mean, like, yeah, I'm going to do a lot more tumbled coming up now because I'm kind of getting tired of doing satin finishes. But yeah, just like for a simple satin finish like that would be lovely, at least for that part.
00:32:26
jamie peacock
Or even if you throw it throw it through there and then throw it into the Tumblr, you've got a better starting point, a more consistent starting point.
00:32:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:33
Curt
Absolutely.
00:32:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:34
Curt
Absolutely. Yeah, like I, and that's all i do before I tumble anything. I always give everything like a pre-finish before it goes into the tumbler because you just get a better output as opposed to throwing raw stock in there and trying to tumble it to death to try to, you know, kill all the
00:32:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:47
Curt
And then when when you do that, like if if you're if you're a person that produces a product and you have machining lines and then you tumble the piss out of it to get rid of the machining lines and then someone carries it for like a year or so, wherever it's going to like shine and polish in their pocket, it's just going to bring back all those gross machining lines unless you've like actually tumbled them to nothing.
00:32:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:33:05
Curt
Like then it looks dumb because now you have like a nice uniform tumbled finish and then high spots that show machine finish and just, it looks silly in my opinion. So I think it depends what making, but don't know.
00:33:16
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, I learned I couldn't tumble the flux in the big tumbler because it literally doesn't deburred, it rolls the edges over.
00:33:23
Curt
Right, yeah, you were saying that. Yeah, yeah.
00:33:24
jamie peacock
to be yeah They have to be tumbled in the little tumbler for like eight hours at a time.
00:33:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:30
jamie peacock
But they go straight in there with burrs and all and it just fucking fixes them.
00:33:36
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:36
jamie peacock
Although less of an issue now with the new machine. It was an issue with the old machine. But I'd have burrs and shit. Now the new machine's full magic.
00:33:43
Curt
Yeah,
Digital Business Strategies
00:33:44
Curt
i I don't know. i'm I'm playing with more tumbling. Tumbling is fun. I like if people follow, go like on ah Magnus. i don't know you've ever seen his work. um He does like a a pen.
00:33:55
Curt
ah mag i don't know. I just know him as Magnus on Instagram. on his on
00:33:59
jamie peacock
On Instagram.
00:34:01
Curt
I'll find it. I'll pull up the site just so I'm doing the guy's service. Not that we have a huge following.
00:34:12
Curt
It's goo goo. Okay. Found it. So, uh, Magnus, M-A-G-N-U-S-X dot com. He makes some really cool stuff.
00:34:23
jamie peacock
Apparently
00:34:23
Curt
Uh, makes a bunch of like EDC sliders and stuff like that.
00:34:25
Curt
He has some pens, but his, uh, his tumbling is like top tier. Like he does incredible stuff. And I've, I've chatted with him about it. Cause like, what do you do? And, uh, he's like, Oh, so he uses,
00:34:34
jamie peacock
I'll follow him.
00:34:36
Curt
Yeah, he uses like a big like centrifugal machine and then like varying grits and all kinds of stuff. And like you can get like the finishes you can get are beautiful, like shiny, smooth, uniform. So that's that's the direction I'm I'm playing. So anyway, long story short to say that.
00:34:53
Curt
I don't know, there's there's tech out there that I didn't realize exists.
00:34:56
jamie peacock
Yes, and I don't think those machines are particularly expensive.
00:34:56
Curt
Just unless you open your eyes, you don't.
00:35:00
Curt
It didn't look like it was like a high, like it looked like an offshore budget-ish machine, like probably 5,000 bucks maybe.
00:35:04
jamie peacock
Yes, Chinesium.
00:35:08
Curt
Like kind of looked in that territory, which is like, sure. I just didn't even consider that they would exist.
00:35:14
jamie peacock
Apparently
00:35:18
jamie peacock
I was told to follow someone on Instagram. Sorry, blame Jacob. That's why I'm being half looking at my phoning. he told me to go follow some of the Instagram side. um
00:35:18
Curt
But let's,
00:35:29
jamie peacock
So would you like to why I have, would you like to hear my thoughts on the Masso controller?
00:35:29
Curt
let's Let's pick something from Jamie's.
00:35:35
Curt
Yes, because usually me and you kind of both talk about it in a good light, and this doesn't look like a good light. So tell me more.
00:35:42
jamie peacock
Is dumb as fuck.
00:35:47
jamie peacock
Two and a half hours to get the homing sequence to work.
00:35:51
Curt
Oh.
00:35:53
jamie peacock
because it would fucking not home and then wouldn't tell me why the fuck it wasn't homing so it says homing error cool which part of the homing sequence has failed oh no I had the tooltouchoff enabled but I hadn't configured it yet so it couldn't fucking home because that's part of the homing sequence
00:35:53
Curt
Would you do...
00:35:59
Curt
okay
00:36:05
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:36:14
Curt
All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:17
jamie peacock
yeah So two a hours to figure out how to get a fucking machine to home. Got it all working, got it running. um Then customer phones me. It's like, hey, this thing's not applying. The tool offsets. I'm like, okay, fuck, let me look into this. There's no G43 on Masso.
00:36:31
jamie peacock
ah He had to power cycle. He had changed some setting. He had to power cycle to get the setting to take effect. But it's not fucking written anywhere.
00:36:40
Curt
Oh, okay. Yeah.
00:36:41
jamie peacock
Also, for the price of a fucking Masso, they can include a coin cell.
00:36:47
jamie peacock
and a flash drive for that fucking matter because when you buy it you can't use it until you put a coin cell and you put the firmware on with a fucking flash drive so I went to power it on the first time and I'm like oh fuck no real time clock um thing can't do anything because the alarm flashes so you can't type in the password to get to the the settings so power it off went and dug around found a coin cell shoved a coin cell in it power it on oh no
00:36:58
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:37:18
jamie peacock
You don't have the firmware. You need to go to Masso Workshop, the online thing. Download the firmware. Put it in a folder labeled all caps Masso on the drive. Plug that in and then, yeah.
00:37:26
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:29
jamie peacock
For the fucking price of the machine, they could give you, or for the controller, they could give you a flash drive and a fucking coin cell. I was a rather pissed.
00:37:38
Curt
I don't remember the coin cells when I was doing them, but I do remember the flash drive and being like, come on, guys.
00:37:38
jamie peacock
Like.
00:37:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:37:42
Curt
You could throw for a more on this.
00:37:43
jamie peacock
My favorite, no, no, there's even a better one.
00:37:43
Curt
It's not that hard.
00:37:44
jamie peacock
So you buy their very expensive MPG.
00:37:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:48
jamie peacock
which is quite frankly over fucking priced. Also, the e-stop on it does not work by default. The one on the MPG.
00:37:54
Curt
OK.
00:37:55
jamie peacock
Not wired in. You plug it in, like, oh wait, the enclosure won't close. There's a note there saying, remove plug from MPG, or remove cover from MPG plug to closed door.
00:38:08
jamie peacock
Like, you couldn't shift the master over just a fucking ball in the enclosure.
00:38:08
Curt
Ooh. Yeah.
00:38:11
jamie peacock
Like, what the fuck? And then I had buy their, their... fuck, what's it, their differential receiver to run the stepper drivers on this machine because it outputs differential signals and the drivers don't support, so you have to use their little fucking board, which ran me a pretty fucking penny by the time it got here, ran me $270 for that little adapter board.
00:38:35
jamie peacock
was still cheaper than buying it locally because buying it locally was close on... $300 from the local agents. So I literally bought it from Australia and had shipped here for less than I could buy it from the local agents.
00:38:51
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:51
jamie peacock
So yeah, that's a lovely controller once it's working, but don't know. I have my reservations. I don't know that I'd put one on one of my machines.
00:39:02
Curt
Yeah, I like, I was running them on routers and they worked great on routers and I don't know if I'd run them on anything else.
00:39:04
jamie peacock
More control.
00:39:09
jamie peacock
I wouldn't run them on a mill. I don't think I'd run them on a lathe. I'm sorry, you don't have multiple offsets.
00:39:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:14
jamie peacock
That's a deal breaker for me.
00:39:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:17
jamie peacock
Like, I like to do stupid shit.
00:39:17
Curt
And, And with that, we kiss goodbye our potential sponsorship from Maso.
00:39:22
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:39:24
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:39:25
Curt
okay
00:39:25
jamie peacock
Bye-bye, master. Yeah.
00:39:27
Curt
ah
00:39:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, I have thoughts. I would probably use them again if I did another retrofit for a router, like if it was my machine and I wanted the tool changer, I would use them.
00:39:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:37
jamie peacock
But i don't know. The documentation seems like there's a lot of documentation, but it's lackluster in the troubleshooting department.
00:39:45
jamie peacock
And like homing error. Cool. What the fuck does that mean? Does it mean X didn't make it? Y didn't make it? Z didn't make it? Random probing fucking tool set didn't make it? Like what is the issue? But yeah, we got that all all squared away and the guys are running their machine.
00:39:45
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:59
jamie peacock
But yeah, a little bit fucking stupid.
00:40:02
Curt
Yeah, that's, I know for, I, when people ask me like to push them toward, like if they're, if they're nerds, I push them towards Linux, obviously.
00:40:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, 100%.
00:40:09
Curt
Actually, one of the admins, one of the admins from Linux CNC reached out and said, hey, thanks for always like basically saying like your machines run on Linux. He's like, cause he's like, that's cool. He's like, we don't have people running like production environment.
00:40:21
Curt
We do, but like no one talks about us.
00:40:22
jamie peacock
No one talks about
00:40:24
Curt
Yeah. So he's like, it's cool that you have machines running on, on Linux CNC for like years at a time and being reliable. So i was like, yeah, cool, cool community.
00:40:29
jamie peacock
it. Yeah. Yeah. Emco and Bertha are fucking rock solid. The Slowio has issues, but rock solid. It was rock solid right up until I changed to a par.
00:40:40
jamie peacock
It was running on parallel port for like five and half years. Rock solid. Like, yeah.
00:40:45
Curt
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:40:47
jamie peacock
But it's cool that they reached out.
00:40:47
Curt
But you got to be a bit of an, you got to be a bit of an egghead to run Linux. Like you can't, and it, and if people don't want to do that, I, I push them usually towards Centroid.
00:40:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no.
00:40:55
Curt
I think Centroid is a pretty cool alternative. If you're not, if you're not as like nerdy in that arena.
00:40:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:01
Curt
So anyway,
00:41:01
jamie peacock
If you're not wanting to put in that much effort. Like, Carl has really started to like running LinuxCNC. There's a whole bunch of shit that's a little different to running... He was running an Akuma and he ran for Nooks in the past.
00:41:12
jamie peacock
But there's a bunch of stuff he really likes on LinuxCNC for running his lathe. Like, the the visualizer helps. But yeah, it's like... Once you get used to it it's a really powerful controller.
00:41:25
Curt
Yeah, well, like like we said, you can... like I love the Siemens control on my mill, but like... i can't i can I can adjust a hell of a lot of things, but like my Linux machines, I can adjust anything, like whatever I want.
00:41:38
Curt
Like if I want to change screen layouts or button layouts or make it control a blender instead of a lathe, like you could do whatever.
00:41:45
jamie peacock
Someone described Linux CNC to me as it's a controller that doesn't know what it is. So it can do anything.
00:41:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:52
jamie peacock
You've got to define what it's allowed do and what it is doing because it it doesn't know.
00:41:57
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:41:58
jamie peacock
Like by default, it supports nine or 12 axes.
00:41:59
Curt
Yeah,
00:42:01
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, we are using it for a three-axis mode.
00:42:02
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I know.
00:42:05
jamie peacock
Like, woohoo. It's little bit silly.
00:42:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:09
jamie peacock
But I do like Linux CNC machines.
00:42:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:12
jamie peacock
Ah, yes. um ah yes So Shopify.
00:42:18
Curt
Sure.
00:42:20
jamie peacock
I finally got tied to my Google Ads account, all that shit tied up, and ad campaign running. That took me like three days.
00:42:26
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:42:28
jamie peacock
Most because the banks were being nubbles and double debited my toolpath payments because it was on a virtual card and the banks double ran all the transactions on virtual cards. So my business account ended up overdrawn and I couldn't get my Google Ads set up properly. But anyway,
00:42:43
jamie peacock
um That's now set up and we will see if it results in any sales. I'm running a campaign now in Canada and the US.
00:42:51
Curt
Oh, cool. Yeah, keep us posted.
00:42:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:42:53
Curt
I want i want to know how that works out.
00:42:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, so the store's all ah up and running. You can get a couple of orders for free items, which is fun. Digital file sets for the Anchor Point dummies and for the keel clamps.
00:43:05
jamie peacock
Those are available there. And then, yeah, the store's looking rather spiffy. It's now indexed with Google. Hopefully, Google will unindex the Anchor Point page on the Jspec site and replace it with the Anchor Point page on the new site.
00:43:22
jamie peacock
on the nautical work and nautical work holding site but yeah that'll happen over the next couple days hopefully but getting all that shit sorted out only mildly infuriating getting it indexed in Google and all all that shit that I should probably not have done should just someone to do but anyway is what it is aye kind of want to know how it works so I'll put the effort in but getting Shopify to do digital files and all stuff like you gotta add plug-in apps and shit to make that all work
00:43:22
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah,
00:43:33
Curt
yeah.
00:43:39
Curt
Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah.
00:43:51
Curt
Oh, really weird. Okay. I thought they would just by now have that.
00:43:52
jamie peacock
And like even even the very like the color options creates variants of everyone. So on the store, there's currently five of every color in stock, because I wanted there to be five units available, but it creates a variant for every fucking color.
00:44:08
jamie peacock
So there's a plugin you can put that lets you not create variants, but I haven't fucked around with it for long enough to get it to work.
00:44:09
Curt
I know. Yeah.
00:44:16
jamie peacock
And getting the shipping setup on there was also a bit of a fucking schlep.
00:44:16
Curt
Yeah, I know that's
00:44:20
jamie peacock
But it's not set up and I think correct. Except for South Africa. South Africa, it automatically charges tax and I can't make it not. But I don't really care about the South African markets. Everywhere else is one, so it's good.
00:44:30
Curt
fair yeah yeah
00:44:32
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's been interesting learning experiences.
00:44:37
Curt
yeah i mean it's the way right it's how people help people buy your shit so it's important so yeah it's
00:44:42
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. It's important. So i wanted to take control of that. And then I got down to finally log me into Wix on this computer so that I could go and remove a bunch of pages from my website to just take shit that doesn't need to be there away.
00:44:57
jamie peacock
So I just got rid of a bunch of bloats on the website.
00:45:01
Curt
Yeah, I know. I... I do that to like a fault. Like I'll get people, like I sometimes, I like, I have links buried in like old YouTube videos that reference pages on my site that aren't actually, like you can't navigate to them.
00:45:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:45:11
Curt
You can only access them by direct link.
00:45:12
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:45:13
Curt
Cause I was like, these don't, like I have a downloads page on my site where you can download like CAD models and like some files for like my Raspberry Pi setup for running on Linux and like stuff that the average customer doesn't need to be inundated with.
00:45:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:45:25
Curt
But like, I still have it there.
00:45:26
jamie peacock
Hidden pages.
00:45:26
Curt
So like you can, so yeah, you can type it in and access it.
00:45:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:45:29
Curt
But yeah. And then, and then occasionally someone will be like, oh, I can't get here. I'm like, how do you know it exists in the first place? Because that's how you should get there. But anyways, so it's just like, yeah.
00:45:38
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, because i've like I've got a quick start guide page that I made. Yeah, I made that that I could have labels printed. So I had the yeah URL and the yeah URL could point on the QR code.
00:45:50
jamie peacock
um And the only way to get there is from the QR code or directly type of it. It's not visible on the on the website.
00:45:55
Curt
yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:45:56
jamie peacock
So yu there's there's lots of fun shenanigans you can do on webpages.
00:46:02
Curt
Oh, speaking of which, i I found a way that people, potentially, it could have been a problem, but I found it. So like I send out an email newsletter um and some people like to read it.
00:46:15
Curt
And now what I've been doing is I've been linking it on my on like the media page or the updates page on my website so that if someone didn't get it, they can they can read it there.
00:46:21
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.
00:46:23
Curt
What I didn't realize is when you read my little email I send out on like a ah web app, it lets you look at past issues, but it doesn't screen anything. So people could see like past passwords of everybody that I've sent it out to, which doesn't matter because they're now deactivated.
00:46:39
Curt
But it would like... I just didn't want that. And i was like, oh oh no. So like it was at night I figured it out and i was like, how do I, and it was, it's all live, right? So I'm like, okay, how do I fix this? How do I fix this? out fix this So I found a way I can stop it.
00:46:51
Curt
But like, i was like, ooh, that could have been potentially bad. Cause like right now, for instance, there's passwords that are out that are active.
00:46:57
jamie peacock
yes
00:46:58
Curt
And if someone just clicked that newsletter and went back in time, they'd be able to see the active passwords and just buy shit off my site. And it just throws off my numbers and I fixed it. I think I fixed it. Next week we'll know if I'm crying, you know, I didn't fix it.
00:47:07
jamie peacock
and a fund house yeah yeah we're gonna find out when this podcast goes live yeah we'll all be done interesting yeah so
00:47:09
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. By the this airs, that'll all be done anyway, so it's not going to matter. But still, yeah. Yeah, it's weird. It's a weird world.
00:47:21
jamie peacock
hit your last topic after we've hit my printing topics
00:47:25
Curt
Shoot. Yeah, shoot.
00:47:27
jamie peacock
Look at my matte print. There can't really see.
00:47:30
Curt
That's okay.
00:47:31
jamie peacock
um This roll of filament got left out. I put it in the bucket for two days. And then I put it on the printer and I printed the first one. It was nice. Sorry. I tried to print straight with it on the machine.
00:47:43
jamie peacock
And it was matte as fuck. Like you could see this. I can see the bubbles on the surface of the of the print. So i put it in the bucket for two days, took it out, printed. First one was nice. Second one, the odd bubble.
00:47:54
jamie peacock
Third one, full of bubbles. The filament literally, it was also raining, the filament literally absorbed water over the span of 12 hours to the point where it went beautiful prints to shitty prints.
00:47:57
Curt
Okay.
00:48:03
Curt
Wild.
00:48:06
jamie peacock
Then I had a brand new roll of black and I put that in and quickly printed out all four of these that I needed. Because I printed four of them and then made a design change and printed another four. Because...
00:48:17
Curt
Okay.
00:48:18
jamie peacock
I didn't like the fit. It's potentially is going to get looser. So I added a detent. So it actually clicks in and then can kind of pivot a bit.
00:48:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:28
jamie peacock
But yeah, those are the ones that are on the machine now. And then I just laser the numbers on the fiber laser. Because why not?
00:48:32
Curt
For the people listening, that's your your tool tag holder for holding tool tags.
00:48:33
jamie peacock
Oh, my tool tag things. Yes. If anyone wants them, just reach out.
00:48:36
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:48:38
jamie peacock
um And then... I was showing them off on Friday night on the Taps and Patience Discord chat and Dylan from Got Chips just put multiboard on the front of his RoboDraw.
00:48:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:53
Curt
OK, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:53
jamie peacock
So he was like, can I send him the model?
00:48:54
Curt
Yeah, I saw that picture. Yeah.
00:48:58
jamie peacock
So I'm like, send me the the multiboard thing and then I'll just integrate it in the back. So I quickly integrate it and send him updated models that'll just click into the multiboard on the front of his machine with the tool tags in them.
00:49:09
jamie peacock
But yeah, he hadn't accounted for the fact that this is not the same spacing as multiboard.
00:49:10
Curt
That's cool. Yeah.
00:49:15
jamie peacock
So I spaced them like they're all different. All four pieces have a different thing and the models are going be numbered. But yeah, he's printing those, so we'll see how they look on Friday.
00:49:26
Curt
Cool. Cool.
00:49:27
jamie peacock
ah jo the I do enjoy that that whole community call on Friday. It's lots of fun. We talk lots of shit and yeah.
00:49:33
Curt
I'm... I'm amazed your pet sheet gives you that much issue. Because like I just leave mine hanging above my printer for like months at a time and print and it's like, no issue.
00:49:43
jamie peacock
mine if i leave mine above the printer it will literally not stick to the bed after a few days from moisture yeah so mine like there's all my filaments each bucket is a different flavor so yeah we've got the bottom is abs then it's pla tpu and ptg three rolls in each because apparently having only one roll of filament is for the pores um
00:49:50
Curt
Really? Wild. Wild. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:50:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:06
Curt
Huh.
00:50:06
jamie peacock
go I've got a shitload of filament. um But yeah, store it a bucket, I take it out.
00:50:09
Curt
Weird.
00:50:11
jamie peacock
up It'll be okay if if we're not having rain and stuff like in winter, it's not a problem. But summer
Manufacturing and Business Dynamics
00:50:16
jamie peacock
is our rainy season. And the humidity is relatively high, not that bad, but enough to fuck with the prints.
00:50:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:25
Curt
Weird.
00:50:25
jamie peacock
And depends what trying to do.
00:50:26
Curt
Weird. Yeah.
00:50:26
jamie peacock
you're trying to make aesthetic stuff, it needs to be dry. If it's just a block for a soft jaw or something, it doesn't matter.
00:50:29
Curt
Totally. Yeah, yeah.
00:50:33
jamie peacock
PLA doesn't really matter, but I still store it for long term and in the dry buckets.
00:50:39
Curt
Weird. I don't know.
00:50:40
jamie peacock
No.
00:50:40
Curt
Maybe it's... Whatever. Doesn't matter.
00:50:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:50:43
Curt
Bizarre.
00:50:44
jamie peacock
It makes a huge difference. Like even a brand new roll in the bucket for two or three days, like off just after I open it, because it's, I don't know, don't trust the packaging.
00:50:50
Curt
Hmm.
00:50:55
jamie peacock
And then it works. Works well.
00:50:55
Curt
Yeah, fair.
00:50:56
Curt
Fair, fair.
00:50:56
jamie peacock
Like now, I finished up with the black. I took it off and put it back in the bucket. Because I knew I wasn't going to print for a few days.
00:51:02
jamie peacock
So it's back in the bucket to just keep it at decent dryness.
00:51:02
Curt
Hmm.
00:51:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:09
jamie peacock
Let me move things on my desk here like a savage.
00:51:11
Curt
Interesting.
00:51:12
jamie peacock
Before this falls off and down the double volume section of my house. um Okay, so.
00:51:20
jamie peacock
Let's do your one and then we'll do my anchor point one.
00:51:24
Curt
Sure. So um yeah, the fidgets this week is going to be fidget week for me. I'm going to pack up or finish packing up orders today. And then those are out of my hair. And then I'm waiting on titanium to come in.
00:51:36
Curt
So while I'm waiting on that, I'm going to try to make these works. I bought everything I need to make them work. And I get an email like every week or, oh, dude, like I'm just like,
00:51:43
jamie peacock
I think I've heard this before.
00:51:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:48
Curt
There is not enough hours in a day um to do what I want to do. And then like, I'm like, I'll do that next week. And also look back. i'm like, that was like three months ago. I said that that's insane. So anyways, um I'm going to go to the metal. Actually, i might go to the metal store today and buy some aluminum to make some soft jaws to hold some specific parts for this. And then I'm going remachine it all.
00:52:07
Curt
Everything will be machined. And hopefully that'll fix my tolerancing issues where I can actually build more than just one of these and, you know, not want to kill myself. So. Because, yeah, there's a there's a lot of interest.
00:52:17
Curt
From my little poll that I sent out, I know there's like there's probably almost as much interest in these as there is pens. So, like, I should do it because, it's like, that's another great way to ah make money.
00:52:28
Curt
And if I make money, then I get to keep doing this thing. So, yeah, I think I'll actually spend some time.
00:52:31
jamie peacock
exactly yeah okay yeah I saw you saw it in your video you were saying you gonna work on it
00:52:33
Curt
Yeah, try to get going. yeah. Yeah.
00:52:37
Curt
so yeah I'm going to do my best to just devote this entire week just to getting this at, at least get one machined in the materials I want.
00:52:48
Curt
Even if it doesn't solve my issues, at least I know that doesn't solve my issues. And then it's a bigger problem. But yeah, it's just been, it just plagues my mind.
00:52:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, then it's a different problem to then deal with.
00:52:58
Curt
Totally. Yeah. But like, it just like every night I go to bed and I'm thinking about it. I'm like, okay, let's just get this off my brain. Like I just, yeah. thats So that's what, that's what we're going to
00:53:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, I don't know you saw my stories from this afternoon. Okay,
00:53:12
Curt
I don't know if I caught him yet. No.
00:53:13
jamie peacock
I was making some small pallets for upcoming job.
00:53:18
Curt
Oh, cute. Okay, no, I haven't seen it.
00:53:19
jamie peacock
400 by 400 millimeter blank pallets.
00:53:22
Curt
Ooh, those are big.
00:53:23
jamie peacock
and a 400 by 500. Fucking chunky.
00:53:26
jamie peacock
I actually took the fourth, I jack lifted the fourth back up into the corner because it was a little bit scary with the 500 mil wide plates on the zero points.
00:53:26
Curt
Oh, it is.
00:53:34
jamie peacock
So that was on the vacuum chuck. So I've got the harbor vacuum chuck that I pop on that that is like 380 square. And then I put the 400 millimeter squares on that. And I was doing all the backside machining.
00:53:34
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:53:45
jamie peacock
And now I need to go and design the actual fixtures for the job and then machine them out over the next couple of days. But I can't put them in because the EMCO is currently to making stupid parts and I need shorter pull studs because the holes are only 19 millimeters deep on these on these fixtures so they don't break through.
00:54:05
Curt
Sure, yeah, yeah.
00:54:05
jamie peacock
so I have to use the shorter pull studs. So I've got to switch the EMCO out to making short pull studs and then shorten 16 pull studs for this job.
00:54:15
Curt
Ugh.
00:54:15
jamie peacock
Because, yeah.
00:54:15
Curt
Fun.
00:54:17
jamie peacock
I think I'm coming up on like 100 pull studs in my workshop at this point, just in anchor points.
00:54:17
Curt
oh
00:54:23
jamie peacock
Because yeah, at least at at least they're cheap as far as as far as retention hardware goes.
00:54:24
Curt
Now it can be Jamie's pool stud emporium. Yeah.
00:54:31
jamie peacock
Like that's the whole purpose.
00:54:31
Curt
I guess. Yeah.
00:54:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, is to have cheap retention hardware.
00:54:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:36
jamie peacock
But yeah, i was busy with those this afternoon.
00:54:37
Curt
Cool.
00:54:38
jamie peacock
Dude, vacuum chuck is magic. is Vacuum down and go.
00:54:42
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:44
jamie peacock
It's great. And then, ah yeah, my, well, my lovely diesel cars, i got an email from them last week. They wanted a quote to surrender their design files.
00:54:55
Curt
Ooh, ooh, that's a fun one.
00:54:57
jamie peacock
So now it's a case of how much noob do they need to buy?
00:54:58
Curt
Okay.
00:55:00
jamie peacock
um So I responded to them on Monday, on Friday. I was like, if you would like the step files, not a problem. You can have the step files. If you would like my dimension drawings with all the tolerances, we're going to have to come to an arrangement.
00:55:15
jamie peacock
So I need to send them an email tomorrow about it.
00:55:16
Curt
Hmm.
00:55:19
jamie peacock
I'm leaning towards you either order 10,000 of each part and when you hit 10,000 of each part, you can have the drawings or you just pay me out around for every part you would be ordering for that 10,000.
00:55:28
Curt
Sure.
00:55:32
jamie peacock
And then the fuck over and just pay me a large amount of money to give you the drawings that are my intellectual property. So yeah, I need to figure out how to nicely word that.
00:55:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:42
jamie peacock
But yeah they want to they want to quote it having it made in Europe.
00:55:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:46
jamie peacock
And I'm like, go for it. I know they're not gonna beat my price. I beat China's price. They're not gonna beat my fucking price. I beat China's price three years ago, and my price is still the same. They're not beating my price.
00:55:59
Curt
Well, and that's like that's a product that's not... like it' like It's different if it's screws where you can fit it in your hand and you can ship it across the world six times and it's not a big issue. Whereas you're shipping big product. like If you get it wrong, all of a sudden you're just sucking back cost in back and forth you know shipping.
00:56:08
jamie peacock
It's yeah.
00:56:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:56:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:13
jamie peacock
Exactly. That's why they stopped buying from, from the Ukraine was one of the reasons we're shipping. They're shipping these fucking tubes, they're shipping a bunch of air around. um
00:56:22
Curt
yeah
00:56:23
jamie peacock
And yeah, so that's why we started manufacturing them. And now they, yeah i don't know, they're not getting the way I assemble them. That's my proprietary information, get fucked, go figure it out. Like, I'm not telling how I did it.
00:56:34
Curt
Yeah, fair. Yeah, fair.
00:56:38
jamie peacock
So yeah, it's been an interesting interesting week with that one. I was a little bit annoyed when I got the email. But I'm like, if you want the step files, by all means, have them. Give me enough work that you can have those. They're also going to catch a nice bill this week because they've had me iterate on the design for them and like tweak designs.
00:56:49
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:54
jamie peacock
And it's like hey, guys, every time I open the file, it's 500 rands. It's like $30 every time I open the file. And I have a list of emails.
00:57:01
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:57:02
jamie peacock
I just changed this. I just changed this. I just changed this. So again I'm gonna send the invoice because it's expensive. Here's your changelog friends. Every time you get me to open the file, it's stopping what I'm doing.
00:57:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:13
jamie peacock
So you're getting billed for it. So yeah, they're gonna, they're probably gonna be a little bit grumpy with me.
00:57:15
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:19
Curt
Hmm. Yeah.
00:57:20
jamie peacock
But it's fine.
00:57:20
Curt
Well, see how that goes.
00:57:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, I mean, they sent an RFQ this month. I haven't got the PO. It's been like nearly a week. I need to phone them. Wait, dickheads, where's the PO? I'm not doing shit without a PO. Don't come on the 20th and tell me you want the stuff at the end of the month.
00:57:34
jamie peacock
Like, if you want it in the month still, you need to give me a PO.
00:57:36
Curt
Well, yeah, like,
00:57:39
Curt
It doesn't seem like they were getting the quantities produced where it would make sense for them to be like, let's look elsewhere. work like it's like Just go with what you're going with.
00:57:47
jamie peacock
So they've got, they've potentially got a 2000 part order in Europe.
00:57:47
Curt
Okay.
00:57:52
jamie peacock
So they're looking at having that made, but like 2000 parts is not a lot of parts in context of these components.
00:57:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:58
Curt
yeah
00:57:59
jamie peacock
They're fucking tiny. um There used to be one on my desk here. ah The biggest components is fucking big. Like you're not going to have someone run them for reasonable rates with those quantities.
00:58:11
Curt
Yeah, fair.
00:58:12
jamie peacock
Also aluminum is expensive everywhere else in the world apparently.
00:58:16
Curt
Yeah, you have the advantage there for sure. Yeah, definitely.
00:58:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. look And we've gotten fucking good at making these. So ah we've managed to keep our price the same because we just keep cutting cycle time on every time we run them, we run them faster.
00:58:29
jamie peacock
And we've gotten and fucking good at it over the last three years.
00:58:30
Curt
Totally. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:58:34
jamie peacock
But last year, they're going into last year, they were promising 10,000 parts for the year. And I think we did a total of it not even 1,000 parts for the year.
00:58:46
jamie peacock
Their sales took a dip and we sat with our fingers up our notes.
00:58:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:49
jamie peacock
The year before we did like 5,000 parts in the year.
00:58:50
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:58:52
jamie peacock
5,000 of each component. So I'm like, I'm going to send them and say, order 5,000. That's a year Two years ago, that was your year's consumption. When you hit those numbers from this point, we will give you the ah drawings.
00:59:06
jamie peacock
Otherwise, X amount for the four files. Like, pick one.
00:59:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:11
jamie peacock
You can buy the files and then still buy the parts.
00:59:12
Curt
That seems reasonable.
00:59:14
jamie peacock
I don't care.
00:59:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:16
jamie peacock
Because, yeah, like, anyway, that's, yeah, those guys. Also, guess what? We didn't do this episode.
00:59:22
Curt
Oh, call it our wonderful, wonderful Patreons that make the wheels on the trains go round and round.
00:59:25
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:59:27
jamie peacock
There They make the wheels.
00:59:28
Curt
Hmm. Hmm.
00:59:29
jamie peacock
They literally go round and round. Yeah, our Patreons are, well, keep the lights on, among your other things. um Also, working towards getting us to IMTS and whatnot. Although, the state of the world, who knows?
00:59:41
Curt
Hmm.
00:59:41
jamie peacock
but
00:59:41
jamie peacock
But, yeah, special shout-out to our top Patreons. Jade from Benchmark20, Luke from Fabtastic, AJ from Subtract Manufacturing and 35 other companies, Jason S, EJ from Nocturnal Welding, The Aussie Machinist, Christian Olson, Charles Watt, Kyle from Cursed Machine, Matt from Offworld Gear, and Alex B. Thank you very much, along with all the other Patreons, they get the after show, where Kurtz and i discuss things, like this week's going to be an interesting one.
00:59:42
Curt
Hmm
01:00:06
jamie peacock
um Going to be discussing some stuff relating to the current political climate. Let's put it that way.
01:00:11
Curt
yeah wo Oh,
01:00:13
jamie peacock
um Yeah, the world is an interesting place currently. and yes, thank you to all the Patreons. And if you're enjoying the show, consider joining us on, well, contributing on Patreon. You get access to the after show and Q&As when we ever do those, among other things. but don't know what the other things are, but I'm going to blame my wife getting a job for the reason that none of them are happening.
01:00:35
Curt
like We're really selling it. Yeah. It's it's really worth your money, folks.
01:00:37
jamie peacock
We're really selling it hard. Yeah, definitely worth it.
01:00:40
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. It's not very good and we don't make much of it, so you'll like it. Yeah.
01:00:44
jamie peacock
Yes, exactly. It's bespoke. It's artisan.
01:00:47
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:49
jamie peacock
yes
01:00:49
Curt
Sure.
01:00:50
jamie peacock
um
01:00:50
Curt
Sure.
01:00:50
jamie peacock
So what what is in your Google box, Kers?
01:00:54
Curt
Uh, Google box is just a doom scrolling marketplace for everything.
01:00:55
jamie peacock
One thing.
01:01:00
Curt
Cause I just love, I love seeing what people sling. Um, actually a guy was just slinging a camera for a heinously low price. Um, and, uh, I quickly sent him a message at last night at two zero in the morning, but so did a hundred other people.
01:01:10
jamie peacock
Nice. Yeah.
01:01:11
Curt
So yeah, it didn't, I didn't, didn't pan out. Um, also I found a hundred watt, uh, Mopa fiber laser, like full kit, like on a bench, with a computer like ready to go um and i was like oh and it was actually a guy he was doing laser engraving on skates so like um hockey players whatever if you want some cool engraving on your blade i like that's kind of a cool process and i was like this thing is probably cooked for like hundreds or thousands of hours so like i'm gonna pass on it but i'll i'll see how low it goes um and uh and uh that's about it nothing nothing all that interesting honestly in my google box how about you what's in yours
01:01:47
jamie peacock
Okay. Yeah, mine had the Saal D6 grinder in it for some reason. um
01:01:53
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:54
jamie peacock
Didn't know they did a cylindrical grinder, but they do. um was looking up Maso tool changer stuff for some reason.
01:01:57
Curt
Doing everything, yeah.
01:02:02
jamie peacock
ah Looking up scales, because I was looking for a 150 kg scale weighing for weighing parts. And looking up the Rand Dollar, because that's a fucking roller coaster.
01:02:16
Curt
Yeah, I bet.
01:02:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's been entertaining. Heading upwards, well, yeah. Heading in a direction. It depends what you're doing, whether it's a good direction or not.
01:02:28
jamie peacock
um The Rand is getting weaker to the dollar. The dollar's getting stronger, fuck knows. Who knows at this point because both places are run by clowns. So it's anyone's fucking guess.
01:02:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's weakened again since this morning when I woke up.
01:02:40
Curt
Yeah, man.
01:02:45
jamie peacock
It is literally rollercoastering like 50, 50 cents, 50 rand cents, day to day at the moment.
01:02:46
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:53
Curt
I know. i I watch your currency sometimes, and it's crazy how volatile it is.
01:02:53
jamie peacock
So.
01:02:56
Curt
I mean, it depends. Like, it makes sense.
01:02:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:02:58
Curt
The worlds are, our our climates are different.
01:03:00
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:00
Curt
But like, yeah, it's it's crazy to see the volatility of your currency. It's like, woohoo. Yeah.
01:03:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's a fucking rollercoaster. um But yeah, it... There's what it is. plugin What's going on? Yeah, messages.
01:03:12
Curt
You
01:03:13
jamie peacock
Danica left a WhatsApp open on the computer. But yeah, anyway, um where can people find you and your things, Kurt?
Community and Future Plans
01:03:20
Curt
can find me and my things at confoundedmachine.com. If you are listening to this, all the pens are probably sold out. But yeah, you can subscribe to newsletters and lotteries, and there's a media page that links to podcast stuff if you want to buy shirts.
01:03:33
Curt
And yeah, that's where that's where everything is found. How about you, Master Jamie?
01:03:37
jamie peacock
I'll take a deep breath quickly. I'll have a yawn apparently. um Yeah, you can find the day-to-day happenings of the Jspec shop at jspec underscore engineering on Instagram.
01:03:42
Curt
Yeah.
01:03:47
jamie peacock
You can also find nautical workholding on Instagram where you will see promo stuff, bank points, and kill camps. You can find the podcast at theloanemachinists.com. You can find the online store for Jspec engineering at jspeceng.com. And you can find nautical workholding at nauticalwh.com. Good luck spelling that. But if you Google it, it should come up now because I did list the pages with Google. And that's where the anchor point and kill plans have now moved over to.
01:04:16
jamie peacock
Huh, that's a lot of things. It gets longer every week. I feel like AJ. New business every week.
01:04:21
Curt
ah Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. ah
01:04:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:04:26
Curt
No doubt.
01:04:27
jamie peacock
So what are you up to today, Kurt?
01:04:30
Curt
Uh, today I'm going to run the laser cutter to replenish my packaging supplies. And then i am probably going to, uh, I mean, aside from getting out the orders out of here, um, work on that fidget.
01:04:35
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:04:43
Curt
That's, that's going to be this week's goal. So yeah, it's going to try to try to devote all my time to that, which is going be fun.
01:04:45
jamie peacock
nice okay yes definitely it'll be very fidgety um yeah tomorrow i've got simon coming to assemble press parts um i'll probably run the emco in the morning until the bearing arrives and then i'm going to assemble calls leave if i'm
01:04:49
Curt
excited. So how about you? Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:06
jamie peacock
to get his lathe up and running.
01:05:07
Curt
Yeah.
01:05:08
jamie peacock
And then when I get back, I need to make fixtures because I need to start machining these first article parts this week. So I need to still design all the fixtures, which is, don't know when I'm going to do that, but I'm going design them as I go.
01:05:20
jamie peacock
But they're vacuum work holding fixtures that I'll vacuum the part down, skim the one side, flip it over, vacuum it down again, machine all the bolt holes, bolt it down, machine the perimeters, and then turn the vacuum off and take the remnants away.
01:05:33
jamie peacock
so the the vacuum will hold the remnants and right until then it's going to be cool um so i've got four fixtures to make for that um and the one part is 100 miles bigger than my wire travel
01:05:34
Curt
yeah
01:05:46
Curt
This game again.
01:05:47
jamie peacock
this game again going do is i'm going to make the fixture that i dropped the parts in um i machined all the central features and then ah machine the one side finished turn it around drop it onto the canning pins clamp it down machine the other side finished It's going to be, yeah, that face.
01:06:04
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:06
jamie peacock
It's going to be that.
01:06:06
Curt
yeah
01:06:07
jamie peacock
Because it's bigger than my travel, so it's it's a bit of a shit show. So we'll see. I'm sure I can make it work. I mean, I'm buying a whole sheet of aluminum, so I'm to have lots of spares.
01:06:14
Curt
I'm sure you can.
01:06:18
jamie peacock
Because I have to buy three by 1.5 meter sheets. So 10 foot by 5 foot sheets, like that's the smallest piece I can buy on 5 series.
01:06:22
Curt
Right.
01:06:26
jamie peacock
And then circular saw in the driveway. And chop it into half meter by half meter sections.
01:06:33
jamie peacock
And it's really annoying that it's the part is 499 millimeters. So going to probably plan to cut it diagonally because then I can get more pieces out.
01:06:33
Curt
Nice.
01:06:39
Curt
Oof.
01:06:44
jamie peacock
I can get three in a row. Whereas if I go square, I can't get three in a row. I put the four hundred end up with 480 millimeter offcut.
01:06:53
Curt
Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
01:06:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I'm going have to just throw that in CAD and see what fuckery I can do to get the best layout possible that can be cut with a circular saw.
01:06:55
Curt
Oh.
01:07:02
Curt
Right. yay Yeah.
01:07:03
jamie peacock
because i also still want the pieces to be somewhat square so that I can easily reference them in the machine.
01:07:04
Curt
Gross.
01:07:09
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's ah that's a this week's driveway problem.
01:07:10
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:13
Curt
Exciting.
01:07:14
jamie peacock
That's one word to describe it, not the word I would choose, but that's a word.
01:07:20
jamie peacock
So that's ah yeah, that's this week's problem. Anyway, thank you everybody for listening. This is bit of a short episode, but we'll claim that it's because I'm tired. um But yeah, thank you everyone for listening. If you've enjoyed the podcast, please consider sharing it with someone you think will also enjoy it.
01:07:20
Curt
yeah
01:07:35
jamie peacock
If you're on YouTube, because consider are like, subscribe and all those things. If you're Spotify, give it a good thumbing and we will see you guys next week.
01:07:44
Curt
Take care, all.