Introduction and Podcast Finale
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Hey, everybody. This is Jessica and Sadie. This is the Amazing Rewatch. And this is the season 13 finale. Mm-hmm. And it's been a good season. Yeah, this is an exciting finale. And I mean, not really much more to say, or I guess we can just jump jump right into it. Yeah. Um,
Final Destination: Portland, Oregon
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we were in Moscow last and Nick and star are the first team to depart at 10 56 PM. And the clue says fly to your final destination city, Portland, Oregon.
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Teams must travel 5,000 miles to Portland, Oregon. Once there, they must make their way to this adventure camp to find their next clue. And there's a big gap in between teams. Andrew and Dan leave at 228 and Ken and Tina at 330.
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Yeah. So I think that detour, I mean, I think a lot of things made a big difference on the last leg, but I think Nick and star did their new detour really quickly. Yeah. The ride, the rails. Yeah. And when Ken and Tina didn't get their clue to tell them to go to the pit stop and they had to go back and search for it. It looks like that took them whole hour to do that. Yeah. Cause they were right with Andrew and Dan on the mat yeah and then had to go back. So.
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Yeah, so teams are excited and nervous and gearing up for the final leg. Excited
Flight Challenges from Moscow
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to head back to the US and yeah be home. And they all just go to the airport to find flights. Nick and Star got on the internet. Did you see the prices of those flights they were looking at? They were like $4,200. Really? Yeah. I didn't notice that. It was just like a like an Expedia website. They were doing some research. I was like, ooh, yikes.
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yeah I don't know if that was for like all four flights or if that was per flight. yeah because Because they have to buy for yeah themselves and their two crew members. yeah so Interesting.
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But a last-minute flight, international flight, is probably pretty expensive anyways. From Moscow to Portland? My guess was that we were going to a city on the east coast, and I was wrong. We're going to the northwest.
Preparing at Tilikum Adventure Park
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um They find a Lufthansa flight that has a layover in Frankfurt that departs at 7.05 AM, m so everyone is on the same flight.
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And while they're waiting, they have quite a while to wait for this flight. So they're all three teams find an internet spot and do a little bit of research. Yeah. Looking up like what this, it's the Tilikum Tilikum Adventure Park. So they're seeing like what kind of stuff you can do there yeah and kind of just getting ready for the lake. Yep.
Navigational Hurdles in Portland
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they arrive in Portland, they all get off the plane and go and get their cabs and start racing to this adventure park. And Andrew and Dan's driver doesn't even know like where it is. Yeah. And he doesn't even know the name of the town that it's in. Yeah, it's kind of like on the outskirts of Portland and like Newberg or new. Yeah, Newberg. Yeah.
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So he must be new to the area because he struggles. Yes. So Andrew borrows the taxi driver's phone to like call the place that they're going and get directions. Yeah.
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And that's crazy to think about like everybody has a smartphone now. Yeah. So this was filmed in 2008. The iPhone came out in 2007. So it was kind of like when people were starting to like make the transition over to smartphones, but nobody gets like, you will not find a taxi driver that will get lost now. Yeah.
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Cause they can just put it on their phone. Yeah. And there was that one taxi driver last episode in Russia that had a GPS and he was like, yeah they were like, Oh, he has a GPS. yeah That was like the high-end technology at that time. So the first team to arrive to this um adventure camp are Canantina and the clue there is a detour and it says high and dry or low and wet.
Detours at Adventure Camp
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High and dry, teams must climb 30 feet up a tree, traverse a 40-foot log, and then leap through the air to retrieve one half of the next clue. If either team member falls off the log without grabbing the clue, they must start from the beginning.
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And then low and wet is teams choose a floating log bridge and walk 850 feet across the water to the clue waiting on the shore. And both of these are first come first serve. Canatina pick high and dry. That's probably what I would have chosen. yeah Because 40 feet's not very long. And what was the other 850 feet across like logs yeah in a body of water? Yeah. So I would choose that one too.
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and they can start to get there right after them and they choose high and dry as well and we know that Tina is scared of heights and so she's kind of having a hard time but she does it but the way Nick climbs this tree he looked like a spider monkey yeah he literally like ah so it's a tall tree and it has these metal like wrong like kind of steps. Yeah. On two sides. And he literally was flying up that thing. Like he wasn't like climbing like a ladder one by one. I know it was like he literally scaled that tree. I was like, Oh my gosh. Yeah. It was really fast. So he made up a lot of time there. They actually finished a detour before Ken and Tina do. And that clue says traveled by taxi to the bridge of the gods.
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take a zip line 2000 feet to the island below to receive your next clue. And
Zip Line Task at Bridge of the Gods
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then Ken and Tina finish and they get the clue and they're heading to the bridge as well. Tina and Star started almost at the same time. Yeah. And Tina was wasteful. Her helmet kept falling off and she said it was like choking her and then she was afraid of the hides and Ken was like, come on, come on. And she's like, don't yell at me. Yeah. She's already being very like,
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short with him. yeah Her helmet thing was really annoying. Yeah, that is annoying if it won't stay on. And she tried to take it off and couldn't get it off. It wasn't tight enough in the first place or something. It was just, yeah, that's really annoying. But it slowed her down a lot. And um so these two teams are racing to this bridge.
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And they were both gone before Andrew and Dan even arrive. Yeah. So they, it looks like Nick and Star ah are ahead, but their driver passes the off ramp to this bridge or something and Ken and Tina don't. So they get there first. So Tina does the zip line first and again, she's scared of heights, but she actually seems like she enjoys it as she's doing it. Yeah. She's like, this is awesome. And then Ken does it and he does it like backwards and upside down.
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I'm like, are you allowed to do that? And then they can start get there right after and do it. And then the meantime, Andrew and Dan get to the detour finally, and do this. So when I was thinking of this, like, cabs make a big difference on the final lake all the time. And it would be like,
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is So they should have like found a cab driver and been like, do you know where this is? Yeah. Why would you say yes or no even get in a cab driver that doesn't know where to go? Like it would take a little bit longer initially at the airport when you're asking different cab drivers if they know where something is. And then instead of just wasting all this time with a cab driver who doesn't know where anything is, like they should have asked more. Yes. Which is like, I think,
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especially the last leg, like it's really important that you're like, and or and everybody speaks English. So it's not like you have the language barrier. So you should, you have to find somebody that knows where they're going. Yeah.
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and They said a few times, they're like, we should have got another driver. We should have got another driver. But once they get out to this place, like they have to keep that driver because there's no taxis out there. So then they have to use him to come back, too. And he struggles to find the bridge. And they yeah and they also, he's going so slow. He's going like 40. He is going, yeah. And Andrew's like, can you please go 70 at least? Can you get in the left lane and go 70? Can you not go 50? And it shows his speedometer. And he's going forty like 45. Yeah.
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In that moment, I would be freaking out. yeah I'd be like, this is... I'm sorry, sir, but you are literally costing us a million dollars. Yes. And wouldn't he be like, oh, this is important because there's a camera guy in my seat. like Obviously, this is like a show. This is legit. I was just going to say, wasn't there a time in like season five when was it Colin and Christie or some, somebody called ahead for the final leg destination city and said, you will like, you need to book me your driver who knows the area the best. Yeah. That sounds right. Meet me and they at the airport at this time. And they did. And that was like really smart. Yeah. I wonder why people haven't utilized that since, or are they not allowed to? I don't know.
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Yeah, it like some of those little things, like it's a I think it eventually changes where they like can't pay the taxi driver to like follow at some point. So like little little things change that they don't really tell us that they just like stop doing. Yeah. And we don't know like all of the little rules. Actually, that will come up at the end when we are finished. like Some of the the rules and penalties that we like see for the first time in this like in the trivia for the season, I'll tell you. so I guess maybe they did make that a rule because if that was the case, everybody should do that every every time. like yeah anyways,
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take a little bit of time initially to find the right driver instead of wasting all your time with the wrong driver is what I'm trying to get to.
Final Trivia Challenge
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So, Canatina land on this little island thing from the zip line and the clue there says, you've come a long way, how much do you remember? So, this is like the final trivia game of the season. The memory task, yeah.
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So they it says, choose a game board with 10 game pieces, each representing the leg of the race, working in numerical order, revealing a symbol underneath, like route info, roadblock, detour, pit stop. enter So then you enter the field containing 150 amazing race clue boxes and find the picture corresponding with the symbol. Once the team finds all 10 correct pictures, they'll receive their next clue. So it's like a big board.
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Yeah, and it's like a pyramid. So at the bottom left is one, two, three, four is the bottom row, and then five, six, seven is the second row up, eight, nine, and then 10 is at the top. They pull off one and it's route info, route info. So it's like the blue route info that you see when they open the clue. That one would be hard because they get a few. Yeah.
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throughout the leg. Yeah. So this, yeah, I would feel like this would be really hard, but it's supposed to be the root info of their first leg, which was Brazil. And they had to take that coffee cart full of supplies, like on that cobblestone street. yeah And so that's the picture that they're looking for.
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And Nick and Starr do the zipline and they get there pretty close after. So they're, these two teams are like neck and neck. yeah And like, there's a big, a large field on this island and there's 150 clue boxes just standing there. So they have to open the roadblock or detour or route info thing of that leg and then run out into the field and look into every single clue box and find that picture.
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and then run back and put it on. And then when they put it on, it will do a green light if it's wrong or not yeah or right. That's nice because then they don't get to the end and then they're like, well, which one is wrong? Yeah. So that's helpful. Yeah. But I wish they would do, I like that better. Yeah. it Kind of like ups the stakes a little bit. Yeah.
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So the, like, Ken and Tina get the first one. And the second one is the t detour of leg two, which was beach, beach it, which boats. Yeah. Which is the boat. So they brought up onto the land and put the logs. Yeah.
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And um number three was the roadblock of that leg, which was like the wrestling, the fighting chilidas in Bolivia. And number four was the pit stop in New Zealand, which was like, it's like a field of sheep. Yeah.
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So at this point, Ken and Tina were ahead yeah up until number number four, at which point Nick and star have now caught up yeah and then kind of pass them. So it's, it's almost like Ken and Tina are doing double the amount of work because Nick and star, I think you have to stay with your partner. I don't think you can split up and just look at all 150.
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but like Nick will open one and then Star will open one. Like they're like going fast and Tina, she keeps saying, don't close it until I see it. yeah Don't close the lid until I see it. Don't close it so fast. I need to look at it. Like she doesn't trust enough him to let him even look at a picture.
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like in So literally they're taking twice as long cause both of them have to look at both at the picture. And it's, I think that slows them down a lot. Just that little thing. But also like if you see where one is and then you know that it's going to come up later to know, to know which box it's in yeah is helpful. So i I don't blame her for not wanting to or for wanting to see. Yeah. But it's like he could look at some and you can look at some and he'd be like, Oh, I remember that picture over here.
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And she could be like, I remember that picture over here, like Nick and Starr are doing. yeah But she has to look at every single one because like she won't trust she doesn't trust Ken enough to. So when they get to the fourth one, Ken and Tina get that one wrong because they pick out, it's supposed to be the pit stop of New Zealand, but they pick something else. And they didn't recognize that that symbol was a pit stop mat. And she's like, is that the pit stop sign? and So they finally figured that out.
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And then they also get messed up on number six. So number six is the route info from Lake six. I don't even remember where India, I think so at the ambassador hotel. And Ken says, I bet that's the hotel. And Tina's like, no, it's not.
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She doesn't, so she's so just like her answers are final. And that's how she's been the whole season, but she's very much like this at this point. And it's bothering me because he kind of is just thinking out loud. Maybe that, I think that's probably the hotel. No, it's not.
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he can't even argue with her. Like he can't even, you know, and so they get the wrong picture and then go back and get the hotel. Yeah. And she doesn't even be like, Oh, you were right. Yeah. Or anything like that. I don't, I don't think they told us what number five was. Yeah. I think they skipped five and six and seven or no five and seven. Yeah.
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Um, so at this point, meanwhile, Dan and Andrew are on their way to the zip line. So they have finished the detour their way behind. There's no hope for them. no And I think we knew that. And honestly, it really wasn't their fault. They really had a bad driver, but I wonder if they, all three teams were doing this task at the same time, like how it would have worked out. Cause like once Dan and Andrew get there.
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Cause I assume that there's three of each picture, yeah just kind of like random. So two of the three of the picture that they need is already gone. So they have a way harder time at the end too. So. Yeah. Cause I think that they say that when they finally arrive, when Ken and Tina and Nick and Star are already gone, like I think some of the boxes are like empty. Yeah. That are closer to the front. They have to travel. Yeah. So they have to go to the further ones. Yeah.
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So, um, Leg 8 is Kazakhstan. Nick and Star missed that one, so now Canantina passed them. Leg 9 is the church in Russia, leg 10 is the statue of Stalin and honestly it's like so close. Yeah. It's like
Green Dinosaur Clue
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they kind of are just one gets one wrong and then the other passes and yeah but it is Nick and Star that find leg 10 first and they get the green light and the clue like they have to run to the parking lot to get the next clue.
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And it says travel downtown by taxi to the Portland building and search the area for the green dinosaur, which is located across the street in the standard Plaza to find their next clue. So it's like, they don't know that it's at the standard Plaza though. It's just in so the area for the green dinosaur. And then it says something like it's standard issue.
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which does help them find yeah the standard building yeah once they get there and realize. So it's like a dinosaur statue that has like decorations or like an art installation or something like that across the street from the Portland building in the window, like a big window. So it's inside a building. Um, so Nick and star head that way and Ken and Tina are just right behind them. And Andrew and Dan get to the picture task and then we don't see anything else of them until the pit stop, so we won't worry about them. And Nick and Star's driver seems to know exactly where that building is, and they get dropped off first. Both of them do, because yeah the cabs pass each other a couple of times on the way, so it's like so close. Yeah, Ken and Tina's driver catches up to them. They're passing back and forth. It seems like they take a little bit of a different way to get to this building, and Nick and Star are dropped off first, and they see that
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Nick sees the standard building. He's like, Oh, that's the standard building. And then star will seize the window. She's like, Oh, there's the dinosaur. So they run in and grab the clue. And it says make your way on foot to the Alder street to Alder street and search among the food carts for the one from Russia. Well, it says find the country of your last pit stop. Yeah.
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So they have to remember that it's Russia, but I'm sure that was like when Phil says it, when Phil says it to us, he says, and find the one from Russia. But when they read it on the clue, it says, find the cart where your last pit stop was. Yeah. Um, so when Nick and star are leaving the dinosaur, they see Ken and Tina and they're like, we can't let him see this CS. We want them to know where it is. And they are kind of walking around the area.
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and they go into the city hall and ask the security guy where that dinosaur is, and they find it. And so right now, Nick and Star are making their way on foot to these carts in Canintina as well. And it seems like they're both directed to Alder Street, but from Alder Street, they need to be directed to these carts from there. But Nick and Star do find the cart first, and it says, travel on foot to the place where the magic is in the hole.
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Teams must figure out that the clue is sending them to voodoo donuts. Once they travel here on foot, they'll receive their next clue. Okay. We should take a pause and you should tell us about Portland. Okay. Do our little geography lesson here so that we can just like seamlessly go into the final few clues. So this, I don't think we've been to Portland yet. I don't think so either.
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but I just feel like we've talked about it for some reason. Anyways, Portland is the most populous city in Oregon.
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it It's the 27th most populous city in the United States, the sixth most populous on the West Coast, and the third most populous in the Pacific Northwest after Seattle and Vancouver. Approximately 2.5 million people live in the port and Portland area.
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and almost half of portland' or Oregon's population resides within the Portland metro area. It was named after Portland, Maine, which itself is named after England's Isle of Portland. The Oregon settlement began to be populated near the end of the Oregon Trail in the 1840s.
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And at the turn of the 20th century, the city had a reputation as one of the most dangerous port cities in the world and was a hub for organized crime and racketeering. This sort reputation dissipated after its economy experienced an industrial boom during World War II and became known for its so growing liberal and progressive political values from the 60s onward.
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It's has a reputation for like they're saying is keep Portland weird. And they're very much like open-minded liberal hub of, I think their state, I don't think the whole state of Oregon is. No, I'm pretty sure like Western Oregon is very much conservative. Yeah. I mean, Eastern Oregon. Yeah.
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And I think it's like that in Washington too. Yeah. It's one of the most bikeable cities in the nation. It proudly holds the title of being one of the, oh, it has over 350 miles of bike lanes and paths. And the Simpsons creators from Oregon or from Portland, there has the world's smallest city park is 24 inches in diameter.
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It's Mill End's Park.
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to ah Two foot park I don't know why. That's like one one person can stand in that at a time. That's weird. Yeah. powell city weird i guess yeah safe key portland weird Powell's City of Books in Portland holds the esteemed title of being the largest independent bookstore in the world, spending an entire city block with over 1 million new and used books across multiple floors. It's a bibliophile's paradise. Have you been there? Yeah. OK.
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Um, Portland was named on a coin toss. The city's name was reportedly determined by a simple coin toss in 1845. The business partners from Boston and Portland couldn't agree on what to name the city. So they flipped a coin and they got, so it could have been Boston, Oregon. Yeah. And it has the second most breweries in the U S with over 70 breweries. Milwaukee, the first Denver, Denver.
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So yeah, I visited Portland. I went to Portland for my 30th birthday, just like on a solo trip and went to Powell's book store and voodoo donuts. And like this area that they're running around right now, that's like where I was staying. That was where my where I stayed.
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um And it was an interesting city because it was very dirty and had a lot of homeless people. I've never seen more homeless people in my whole life.
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because they're allowed like Seattle. Yeah. So cause they're like allowed to camp it's anywhere. in Yeah. Like they don't have, they're allowed to camp anywhere in the city and they can't make them leave, which I don't know about like whatever people's opinions is of that, but it was a very dirty city. One of the dirtiest cities I've ever been to. And I didn't walk around at night in this city and like it was just not my favorite yeah there was like the bookstore was really cool and a few other things i went to the the japanese garden was really cool so if you do go to portland do those things but my favorite thing was i did it like a wine tour because there's actually like a lot of um vineyards around here
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And that was the most interesting part. So outside of Portland. Yeah, outside of Portland. And that was fascinating the wine tour because they were telling their tell they tell you about like the way Portland or like the west coast of Oregon was formed was because a glacier came from Canada like all the way I mean, know over millions of years and brought all this nutrients to the area there. And that's why they grow such good and unique grapes and stuff like that. But anyways, yeah, so.
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So don't go out of your way to go to Portland, but yeah, if you're there, if you're there's not the worst place ever, but I wouldn't ever be like, I need to go back. Yeah. And there are cities that I'm like, Oh, I need to go back. Oh, for sure. This is not one of them. Yeah. That's how I, whoops. That's how I feel about Seattle. The first time I went there wasn't that bad, but the second time I went to Seattle, I was like, and it was only like,
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maybe five years later, and I was like, holy cow, this has gone downhill a lot. Yeah, that's the long way it was San Francisco, too. Yeah, it's...
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Okay, well cool. So we are in Portland. Yeah. What are we doing? We're going to Alder Street. Yeah. And they're finding the Russian food truck. And so Nick and Star find it. Oh yeah. And we said they're supposed have to, they're supposed to go to Voodoo Donut. So they just like start yelling. Yeah. Where's the magic in the hole? Where's the magic in the hole?
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And this lady walking by- And if you're just looking around, it's like, what are these people yelling? This lady walking by with a cane and they're like, do you know where the magic in the hole is? And she's like, no. And then this guy like behind him who was like, that's Voodoo Donuts. yeah And he tells them how to get how to get there. And then Ken and Tina get there and they're like, doesn't anyone who know where magic in the hole is? And that same lady was like, it's yeah, I know where it is. I know. And then they're like, has somebody else been here? And she's like, yeah.
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And she's like, but they went this way and the other ways faster. Yeah. So go that way. Yeah. Which is interesting. And, but Nick and star do get there first. And that clue says travel by taxi to but Pittock mansion and follow the marks to the finish line.
Winners of The Amazing Race
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Go, go, go.
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yeah And when Nick is reading this, he's just like oh yeah like so... so foolish The emotions of Nick and Star right now are just so like, oh my gosh. yeah Star was kind of like that during the memory thing and Nick kept being like, calm down. yeah come'm down We you got to keep going. And he would like grab her hand and run with her.
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definitely kept her calm. And at this point he's kind of just like, we're there, I don't even worry about keeping calm. I feel like there was a lot of clues too. I expected the memory challenge to be like the last thing. That's what I thought it was gonna be. And then they had to go two more, three more places. Yeah. Two more places. Which is good. No, three more places. I like that because it gives people more of a chance to like, you know, show their skills and do an actual race instead of a taxi competition.
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So, and then, but, you know, they do have to get on a taxi to go to this mansion at this point in 10 and Kenan. We haven't done that at all this season. That's the first time. We have to have one every season at least.
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Ken and Tina get the clue they're right after them and they're both in their taxis. Or they both have a hard time. They have a hard time finding them, both of them. They're like yeah blowing whistles and yeah, Ken, like a taxi drive drives by and has their window down. He's like, I'll pay you $50 to get out and give us your taxi. And the driver's like, this is a customer dude. Drives away. Yeah. If somebody offered me that if I wasn't in a rush, I'd be like, okay. yeah
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So yeah, they kind of struggled in their downtown. So it's interesting that they're having a hard time finding taxis, but um tell Nick and Stars driver, the they get in and they're just like, hurry, hurry, hurry. And he's like, are you guys okay? Because like, we just have to go really fast. Have so much emotion right now. And they're just like,
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you know, this is it. And he was like, you guys okay? Yeah, Ken and Tina are much more calm. They like, they say a prayer and they're like, okay, we got to run for our lives. And Ken's like, this might actually be the last time I run in my entire life, but I'm going to do it. Yeah. And they're kind of just, you know, they're, yeah, they're much more calm. Just like it is what it is now. We're on the way to pit stop. Whatever happens happens, but Nick and star know that they're like, yeah, I honestly would probably be the same. Yeah.
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I know, I couldn't even read the clue, I'd be
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So the teams are all lined up around the pit stop. Except for Tony in Dallas. yes Except for Tony in Dallas. And cheering and a cab pulls up and Nick and star pop out and they run up and they are team number one. And Phil says 23 days, five continents and almost 40,000 miles. Nick and star, you are the official winners of the amazing race.
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And they're very, very happy. Yeah. They get up to the mat and they give each other a hug. And I think they know that they had won, but they wanted to hear Phil say the words and they were still hugging and Phil says 23, whatever 23,000 miles. And they just like squeeze each other tighter and like start jumping up and down. Yeah. And, um, they're like,
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you know, just saying great things about each other. And Nick is like, I'm so proud of her. She's my best friend and um and stars like everybody ran such a good race. You guys made this really hard for us. yeah
Ken and Tina's Relationship Twist
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And then Ken and Tina come up as team number two and they're very gracious. And um Phil says, you didn't win the amazing race, but I'm hoping you did reconnect. who And then Ken like pulls out this little,
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po pouch yeah with their wedding rings in them. And he's very emotional. He said, we haven't been wearing our rings for quite a while. And he says to Tina, and I'm asking you to start this thing over again and do it right this time. We'll do it right this time. And she says yes and puts the ring on and they, and it looked like Phil was even crying. yeah It was super sweet. So they were, they were really emotional and everybody was like clapping and cheering for them. And,
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Yeah. And it's, yeah, they didn't win the million dollars, but then they got something far better. We hope then Andrew and Dan come up. They're so they're in such a good mood. They run in in Dan Drew style. And I think everybody's like cheering Dan Drew, Dan Drew, Dan Drew. And they're just definitely just themselves. They're jumping around and just being like, so yeah. And,
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It feels like, did you ever imagine you'd be here? And they're like, no. And they're like, we were racing against two far superior teams. And everybody starts laughing. Dan's like, I'm serious. It's true. We did not expect them to be there either. it's No, I don't think anybody did. Yeah.
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and probably like all the people in sequesterville, like as the, the team started arriving and they're like, Dan and Andrew yet. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And the team that comes was like, yep. Second to last Dan and Andrew was second to last, they just beat us but yeah, they didn't even, they had that one save that one non elimination, but I mean, yeah, they stayed in the race. Yeah. That's all that counts. Honestly, like they might not have been the very best team, but they made it to the finals. So, but yeah, so they were super happy and in a good mood and nice. And I don't think they were expecting to win. So no, they were like, we didn't even expect to get to the final three. We were just happy to be here. Yeah. So I did predict Nick and star to win from the very beginning.
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And they did really well the whole entire time. Yeah. And it was a very close finale. Yeah, I i want to know how close it was because it seemed like it wasn't a foot race. like I think the only time we've really ever had a foot race to the final mat was season two. Yeah. And there's been a couple others that seemed close.
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Yeah. But I just wish they would give us like a time. Yeah. Like, yeah, it would be so satisfying to know how close it was. And so we didn't go to as many countries this season. Okay, we're going to see if I can remember. Are you ready? Yeah. Brazil. Peru. No, no, no, not Peru. Bolivia.
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um Cambodia. You missed one.
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Was it another South America? No. Oh, New Zealand. Yeah. Cambodia. India. Kazakhstan. Russia. Yeah. United States. So like season nine, we went to nine countries and season 12 season 10, they went to 12 countries.
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Wow. This, we only did seven in this season. Yeah. They had to Brazil was two legs in that country and India was two legs, but they also in Russia was too late. That's right. Oh yeah. And Russia was two legs.
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Yeah. And they also, I guess that's the same amount of legs, but it's just shorter episode or fewer episodes now. Yeah. We don't have 13 episodes. We have 11. So it seems and like it should be fewer legs, but it's not. I do like having more like double, like there are two episodes in Russia, two episodes in, you know, because less equalizers of flights.
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um Actually, because there's usually only two non-elimination legs now, right? So I think that is a change in the last maybe four or five seasons because it was three non-elimination legs. So they are, it is a shorter season. Yeah. And it's only 23 days now. Yeah.
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ah you It was like 30 or 32. Yeah. So it is shorter and they go to fewer countries. Yeah. Well, do we want to talk about our thoughts of the season in general first or see what these teams are up to first? Do the recap of the teams. Okay. So we will start with Dan and Andrew, our frat boys.
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They had an average of 5.18 and took third overall. So they, seventh, eighth, seven, six, six, five, five, four, four, two, three. So they had a worse average than, than, hold on, I gotta find the main page, Tony in Dallas.
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They had a worse average than Tony in Dallas who took fourth place.
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Um, Terence and Sarah who took fifth place, Kelly and Christie that took sixth place and Mark and Bill that took ninth place. Interesting. Yeah. I'm surprised Kelly and Christie had a higher average. It was it Kelly and Christie was 5.14 and they were 5.18. So it was like basically even.
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So there's really not a lot of information about them post race. Andrew was present at the starting line for amazing race 25. I don't know why. And.
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They both have a Facebook, but have not posted in years. Andrew's last post was in 2020 and it he has one, one post on his Facebook and Dan's last post was in 2013. So. Wow.
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They, I don't really know what they're up to. I probably could look for their names specifically, but I'm not going to. So some of their franchise records, amazing race records, they're the first all male team to reach the final three without winning a leg before then. And the first team to cross the finish line without winning a leg. They're the lowest racing average for any all male team to compete in the race.
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And the lowest raising, raising average for a team to finish in third place. That's funny. They're the highest placing team to not check in at a pit stop ahead of every other team in their season. What does that mean? What was that? The highest placing team to not check in at a pit stop ahead of every other team. So they never checked in ahead of Ken and Tina or Nick and star.
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Okay, yeah, so they finished third overall, but never arrived at any pit stop or finish line ahead of Nick and Star.
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And I think my favorite piece of trivia, Phil said that one of, I don't know if it was like in an interview or some like special episode or something. He like talked about some of his favorite moments from the first 30 seasons. So it was like, not that long ago, maybe was maybe five years ago, yeah four years ago. And he said that Dan and Andrew marching in Russia was one of his favorite moments yeah of the whole first 30 seasons. It's very memorable.
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They recap, like, so, you know, at the beginning of the episode when they when they're like, Nick and Star have been a consistent, you know, brother sister team, can they do it? Dan and Andrew, and it shows like clips of stuff that they're doing, and they showed that one again, and I laughed so hard again. It just is so funny. We'll have to definitely put that on our Instagram. It's just hard to explain if you haven't seen it. So that is Dan and Andrew.
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So then we go to Ken and Tina and I want to know, I have been so curious and I've tried really hard not to look ahead because I just have wanted to know if they made it work and I want to know what you think. Um, I think that they tried to work it out for a while but then it stayed together.
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Well, I am happy to report that as of February 16th, 2025, they are still married. They're still together and enjoying their life with their kids and their grandkids. Well, that's good. That does make me happy. I'm so happy for them. Yeah.
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So at the end of the, when they're like talking or whatever and Tina says, people do change and he's a really good person with a lot of really good qualities. And and just in this time of the race, I've seen something different in him. And like Ken really did seem like he was really eager to make it work. Yeah, it seems like he wanted to try. He was trying to show her that the kind of person that he was now. And yeah, so I'm really happy for them.
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Um, so their, their, uh, race average was 2.64. They did very well. They took second in the first leg, then first, first, first, fourth.
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then six and they were saved by a non elimination. So it was very close. And fourth, third, second, third, second. So they did really well. I wonder how many winners have been saved by a um non elimination. Cause I think BJ and Tyler. Yeah, they for sure did have one that I'm sure somebody has figured that out. Yeah. If somebody can figure out, they never checked in before or, you know,
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well Yeah, the highest average of yeah the lowest teams. So that should be a piece of information we find out. Yes. um So post race, that yeah they are still together. They opened a treatment facility for recovering athletes.
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um Ken is the first former athlete as well as the first former NFL player to compete. And I know that we have a few to come later. Ken and Tina tied with Terry and Ian for oldest age average of any team to reach the final leg. They were 49.5 average while racing. And they're also tied with Terry and Ian for being the oldest team to finish in second place.
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Nice. I might have an answer to this question we just had. Okay. Fun fact, nine US amazing race winners have been saved by non-elimination lakes. So it turns out nine winners were spared by nonmin non-elimination lakes. Kristin Alex from two. I know Zach and Flo. From three. Joyce new China from seven. BJ and Tyler nine. Eric and Danielle 11. TK and Rachel 12.
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But this list doesn't have is from Reddit. This list doesn't have Nick and Star. They weren't. They didn't have an elimination. I thought you just... Oh, that was Cantina. Yeah. So, nine.
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Interesting.
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so far and they all kind of seem like they're there's more in the future but i'm not going to say who because i don't well okay yeah but it seems like that's from out of nine teams and we're only on season 13 and you've just named like six yeah so it doesn't happen very often from here forward yeah only like three more times yeah So yeah, they have a shared Instagram page, I think, and post stuff about their family and looks looks like they're- How old are they now? Like 68. They are 68 and 65. Nice.
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Um, let's see the Facebook page, their founding partners at athletes recovery. They still live in Tampa, Florida. They have a website, Kenny and Tina.com. And it kind of like, it doesn't look like it's been updated in years, but kind of like has some articles about their time on the amazing race and like some other travels that they've done and.
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The Green Team, I don't know, their last name is Green, so anyway. um And then what was the other thing I was gonna say?
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I don't know.
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Tina is, or was like the CEO of like a, it's called Biopharm Med. And there's two companies that I found that are that company. One is a life science recruiting. So like a head hunting agency to find people to work for companies that do life science and like medical research. And then Biopharm Med solutions, which is digital marketing search services.
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That enhance the brand visibility and connect with the healthcare care community. um So she's like the president of that company. okay Um, Ken, I was interested in his NFL career. He was actually born in Idaho.
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So, and I think he said at some point in the episode, like it's good to be back in the Pacific Northwest cause he's like North Idaho. Um, he played for St. Louis Cardinals. Oh no, let's see. Yes. St. Louis Cardinals from 1978 to 1982 and the San Diego Chargers from 83 to 84. So like a long time ago. Yeah. And he must've been really young too.
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Cause 78 that was, and he doesn't seem like that old. Yeah. Okay. Nick and star, their race average was 2 2.46. They took first place seven times. Wow.
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In the first leg, five, six, seven, eight, 10, and 11. But they took sixth in two and three. So I think that brought their average down quite a bit. Otherwise it would have been like one point something probably. What was what happened in like 10, that they got the 10th place? They got sixth out of 10. Oh.
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So they are the first team to win seven legs in a season and win the race. They're the youngest team to win the first leg of the race, 21.5 collectively.
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They are tied with the Linz family for the youngest team to win the race at an average age of 21.5. They're the first team of siblings to win besides the Linz family. So like in the standard format is what they call it with just ah teams of two. They're the first team of siblings to win.
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And the first non-romantic team of co-ed racers to win. so when They're also the first team to win four consecutive legs. Um, star is the youngest contestant to win at 21. And it seems like that still stands. Really? Yeah. Um,
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And they're the only team on this season to not finish last place on any leg. So save not, not saved by a non elimination. Okay. Post race. Nick got married in 2013.
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um And he has two kids. Do you get married to a man or a woman? A woman. That's the next thing on this list. It says, Nick is a singer and a Broadway performer. He has had roles in some short films and he has stated in interviews that he was assumed to be gay by several people throughout his life due to the stereotypes of participating in acting and being a Broadway performer, but he is straight and is married to a woman and has two kids, two boys. Nice.
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And then star, as we know, what? I just never would have guessed that. I know. ah Yeah, you you shouldn't um stereotype people or assume. The title of this episode is, you look like Peter Pan when he was going down the zip line and he's just like, he he really does look like he's flying like Peter Pan. Yeah. So not that that means that he's gay, but.
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just, he just carries himself kind of more that way. Yeah. So we'll we'll start dated Dallas for a little while, as we know, and then they broke up due to the long distance. And then she got married in 2013 as well. So both her and Nick got married in 2013 and she lives in San Francisco. She works at Meta and she has three kids, a girl, boy, and a girl.
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And they are super cute. They're just like family pictures, family Halloween costume where they dressed up as like Winnie the Pooh characters. She has less severe eye makeup now. yeah She's super pretty. That was just the style back then. yeah The dark, thick eyeliner. That was the style that I noticed was like the bump. The bump. The bump on the front with the but the bobby pins.
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Yes, my senior pictures, I have that hairstyle, the bump. I do i have my hair pulled back like that too, but it's not as bumpy. No, that was, yeah, definitely a 2007 to 2009. Yeah. Major trend. Yes. um Oh, did I say where Nick lives? Nick lives in Southern California now, I believe. So, yeah, looks like they're doing well.
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I have a mutual friend with one of his friends. Let's see who it is. A mutual friend with one of his friends? Yeah. Andy Ivy. um Interesting. Okay. I
Season Reflection and Strategies Discussion
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think that's it.
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Okay, well, yeah, my thoughts on the season. um I liked it a lot. Yeah, it was a solid one. Yeah. Some good teams. It was an interesting route. we didn't I mean, the only part of Europe we went to is Russia and we didn't go to Africa at all. Yeah. So that's interesting. I spent probably most of the time in Asia. Yeah.
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had a lot of repeats of like Brazil, New Zealand, India, Russia. But we did go Cambodia, Kazakhstan were new for this season yeah and Bolivia. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think making star just were so strong right from the beginning. I, like I said, like their communication was just, it was just really good.
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They're a very solid, well-oiled machine. yeah Very smart. They're smart and they're physically fit and get along. and Even though the lady in Russia said he is not fit. Yeah, he is not fit. He isn't just like muscly fit, but he's like endurance and yeah he can move fast. We just saw him climb that tree. like Yeah. It was a monkey. Yeah.
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Yeah. Um, and I, I liked the little romance thing between star and Dallas. Yeah, they were cute. I really liked, it wasn't an annoying one either.
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It was just like a sweet one. I really liked Tony in Dallas. I really liked that father and that mother-son team. And he was just so nice to his mom and like respectful to her. And she was so supportive of him. And even though he made that huge mistake, oh she was just like, I had the best time of my life doing this with you. And- Can you imagine?
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like you would spend the rest of your life thinking what if yeah like what would have happened i would i was gonna say unless they just let things go i'm not one to like hold on to things very much but i wouldn't be able to let go of that yeah that would be so awful um i thought dan and andrew were entertaining they really bothered me at some points like dan was so negative sometimes and just like would give up. And Andrew, it's kind of like the first half of the season, Andrew had to carry the team in the last half of the season. Dan finally kind of just like got in the mood to play the game. Andrew never seemed like he was in any hurry at all. yeah He just like muffled, muzzied along. Yeah.
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um yeah So that was, it was a good season. The final leg was really fun. Oh yeah, I was going to tell you some of this trivia about like this season in general. So first time to visit Bolivia, Cambodia and Kazakhstan lowest number of teams who won a leg.
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So just like, Oh, because only three teams won a leg. Um, It's the first and so far only season where U-turn was featured but not used by any team. So the first U-turn they had, I think they showed it, but like everybody said, we're not going to U-turn. And then the second U-turn they didn't even show. And there are no teams.
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on this season to come back for unfinished business. It's the only season between season 11 and the next All-Stars, which is, I think, 18. So we have 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17. The All-House would not come back for 18 except for this season? Except for 13, yep.
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um yeah Like we said, it would have been ah good good to have Tony and Dallas come back and do that because they got so close to the end. and were I think they would have been a perfect candidate for that. um Who from season 12 comes to unfinished business? Ron and Christina, I know for sure. Oh, it'll be interesting to see them again. yeah Where is that thing that I thought I saw? Oh, right here, okay. So twists and changes in this season.
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um This season featured only nine roadblocks, so leaving leaving room for the maximum split of six and three, because they still can't do more than six, but that still means that one can do way more than the other.
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um U-turns available on certain legs. The U-turn in the ninth leg was unaired. The first... This wasn't the first speed bump. Last season was the first speed bump season, right? Yeah. Okay.
00:54:14
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Um, the following rules and penalties were revealed in the season. So a team that has checked in at the pit stop may not return to the locations on the race course, as we found out, because Dan and Andrew couldn't go get their shoes. yeah A team that takes a form of transportation from the detour decision point to the task location, other than what is specified, incurs a 30 minute penalty, which was, which was Mark and Bill. yeah And the reason they got eliminated, unfortunately, I wish they would have gone further too. Yeah.
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when, what was the name of the couple that made it all the way to the final three? TK and Rachel? No, the other one, couple. Oh, I guess the fourth, the fourth team that fought a lot. Oh, je Jen and Nate. Yeah. They had that thing where they had to go back. Oh, because they took it. They just had somebody drive them instead of actually take a taxi. Yeah. So they had to go back down and take a taxi. Yeah. So that's not the first season to make them do that. No, I guess not.
00:56:02
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the it's It specifically says that season four was when we saw an instance where the penalty was 30 minutes plus the time gained. So somewhere between four and 12 it changed. Okay.
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Cool. Season 14. I don't even, I have no recollection of that right now. Me either. Sometimes when I see the team, I'm like, Oh yeah. But this is kind of the spot. I feel like from like 14 to 20, I didn't watch all of them. But I feel like it's when it really picked up with popularity. Yeah. Um, like people actually watching it. So I'm not sure which ones I've seen.
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in the next little block of seasons. um So we'll see. And thank you so much for listening to this episode and listening to this season. And we hope that you have had a good time. Leave us comments on our social media. Email us. Let us know if you agree with what we say or if we got anything glaringly wrong. We usually agree with each other. Yeah.
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but I don't know if everybody else does. The only thing we didn't agree on is that Terrence looked like. Oh yeah. That's like been our biggest agreement. It was only in the first episode. Like once it got further along, it didn't, I didn't feel like that. It was just really in the first episode. And you were wrong. I was wrong. So that's the only thing we've ever disagreed on. I'll admit it. All right. Well, thanks everybody. And we'll see you in season 14 in April.
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Wow. Well, bye.