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Rose Plate Special: Bachelorette Jenn - Episode 3
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We'll just say this right off the bat: This week, the men really impressed us with their Thunder Down Under routines. They've got some great alternative careers waiting for them if this season doesn't pan out the way they hoped. We have a large group date, a small group date, and only one-on-one, but plenty of interpersonal drama scattered throughout the episode. Aaron, Sam M, not gonna lie - you're both making us side with Devin, and we don't know how to feel about that.
We throw a lot of references at you this week (OK, it's all Sammi), so here are some to check out:
Skydiving Sabotage - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-44241364
Ballerina Farms (she has 8 kids, a slight difference) - https://www.thetimes.com/magazines/the-sunday-times-magazine/article/meet-the-queen-of-the-trad-wives-and-her-eight-children-plfr50cgk
Scamanda Podcast - https://lionsgatesound.com/shows/scamanda
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Transcript
Introduction to Rose Plate Special Podcast
00:00:16
popculturediner
Hello, I'm Sami.
00:00:17
Steve
Oh, hello. And I'm Steve.
00:00:21
popculturediner
And you're listening to Rose Plate Special, the most dramatic, thundering-est, downing-est, under-ing-est recap of the Bachelorette ever.
00:00:35
Steve
Ever.
Sami's Vacation Adventures
00:00:36
Steve
I don't know why Underingist bothered me. It's unclear.
00:00:39
popculturediner
I was like workshopping it. So like, so ah listen, listen, everyone. I've been, my brain has been in vacation mode. I literally just got home three hours ago.
00:00:49
popculturediner
And in that time I finished The Bachelorette cause I watched some of it on vacation and then some of it when I got home and then did a committee meeting, a city committee meeting and then played pinball and at ate chicken tenders.
00:00:49
Steve
She did.
00:01:06
Steve
It's all true.
00:01:07
popculturediner
Yeah. So
00:01:08
Steve
And, and here I was like, I, I mean, if anybody, if anybody doesn't think that I'm a patient and and generous soul, can you believe I, I waited a whole extra like 10 minutes just so Sammy could eat chicken tenders.
00:01:19
popculturediner
Yeah. Yeah, I know. Well, because you were eating and then I was like, well.
00:01:21
Steve
Wow.
00:01:23
popculturediner
I want to eat something too.
00:01:24
Steve
I need tendies.
00:01:25
popculturediner
I'm jealous because it was funny. Tuck goes, why did you text the word tendies to him? I said, yeah.
00:01:34
popculturediner
And he goes, well, I wouldn't know what that meant. I said, we both know what tendies means.
00:01:34
Steve
Yeah.
00:01:39
Steve
We know attendees are.
00:01:40
popculturediner
I said, don't worry about that.
00:01:41
Steve
ah
00:01:42
popculturediner
We know what tendies means.
Local Author's Audiobook Excitement
00:01:44
popculturediner
um But yeah, so anyway, so I'm on like vacation brain, but I was like ah driving home. I mostly listen to um an audio book written by someone who's like who like lives near me.
00:01:44
Steve
Yeah.
00:01:57
Steve
Ooh.
00:01:58
popculturediner
And so like all the and and it's like it's like a rom com like a cute summer read. Like it's really nice. And um it's called Just for the Summer. And um it's cute. She out. She actually like puts the phone number to like a local cupcake place in the book as like someone's phone number.
00:02:16
Steve
Oh, wait.
00:02:18
popculturediner
So you call it and it's like a cupcake.
00:02:20
Steve
It's like an actual cupcake store.
00:02:20
popculturediner
he so Yeah, yeah, it's an actual cupcake place in town. And I was like listening to it. And then I'm like, my town mentioned my town mentioned she mentioned my town. That's very exciting for me. And anyway, so that's what I listened to you most of the time. And it was very fun. But then I also was like, oh, what what should our because I never think of like the superlatives beforehand. But I was like, because I was like, well, one of them should be thundered down, underingist. And then I was like, what if I just split that up into three? So
00:02:51
Steve
Possibly one of your most brilliant moves.
00:02:52
popculturediner
that's That's the only one that I've ever thought of ahead of time, I'm pretty sure.
Fall Jilly Box and Cherry Picking
00:02:58
popculturediner
um I also have good news, besides the fact that I picked about 20 pounds of cherries, which is just good news for anyone who gets cherry jam from me, um is that ah yesterday, I did not let vacation deter me from checking my inbox and making sure I got my fall jilly box invite, and you bet your ass I did.
00:03:00
Steve
That was good news.
00:03:17
Steve
Ooh, cause you're Jilly's like number one, like you're her ride or die at this point.
00:03:21
popculturediner
ah very Apparently, yeah, yeah, it's going to start getting added to my business expenses.
00:03:26
Steve
I wonder if, yeah, it probably should be. Do you think anybody has like a longer?
00:03:28
popculturediner
It should be. I'm bad at bookkeeping.
00:03:31
Steve
Do you think I said, do you think anybody has a longer Jilly streak than you at this point?
00:03:32
popculturediner
What'd you say?
00:03:35
popculturediner
Yeah, I'm sure some people have a longer jilly streak than me because there are people who got in on the ground floor and they're just like automatic subscribers. They don't have to get notified. to opt in, they're just like opted in automatically, which they're, as far as I know, are no slots for that right now.
00:03:45
Steve
Yeah.
00:03:52
popculturediner
So you just have to be subscribed and then they randomly pick you. But I feel like it's kind of like a like a packer season ticket situation where I feel like I'm pretty high up on the list.
00:03:52
Steve
Mm-hmm Yeah Yeah, you're kind of grandfathered in at this point like I Didn't know it was I just thought i about it because you're older.
00:04:07
popculturediner
I mean, I think that's a problematic term, but yes.
00:04:14
Steve
I don't is that what it It doesn't mean that I thought it was just like old stuff.
00:04:15
popculturediner
No, it doesn't mean that. No.
00:04:20
Steve
Okay, I
00:04:20
popculturediner
No.
00:04:22
Steve
Did not know that.
00:04:22
popculturediner
We don't have to get into it if we if you don't want to.
00:04:24
Steve
No, that's fine.
00:04:25
popculturediner
But no, it. Yeah. you Well, there's so many terms that are problematic.
00:04:26
Steve
it's
00:04:30
popculturediner
how How are you supposed to know them all?
00:04:32
Steve
i I ask you usually.
00:04:32
popculturediner
um But I think.
00:04:34
Steve
i Bad one, won't use that one.
00:04:35
popculturediner
And I just go, that's bad. Uh, for reasons. Yeah.
00:04:39
Steve
Sure.
00:04:40
popculturediner
Um, but yeah, so anyway, yes, I think think at this point, I'm, I mean, I must be one of Jilli's favorites, but she hasn't made it known to me.
Bachelor Coverage Focus
00:04:50
Steve
Yeah. Well, and and also, I mean, if you're, if you're just tuning into this bachelor podcast for the very first time, you're like, I'm going to kick the tires on this one.
00:04:57
popculturediner
Yes.
00:05:00
Steve
See if it's for me.
00:05:00
popculturediner
Yeah. And you're like, what are you, what are you two talking about? Why aren't you just get started with the episode?
00:05:03
Steve
And well, Listen, no, there's there's one former ah Bachelor Nation person with a subscription box that happens to, she's from Canada, I think.
00:05:14
popculturediner
Yeah, she is from Canada.
00:05:14
Steve
And she, yeah, so I just i want that as a modifier too. And, ah you know, she has a very select few group of people that she allows to have her beautiful, expensive subscription box.
00:05:19
popculturediner
her
00:05:26
popculturediner
It's very expensive. Yeah.
00:05:28
Steve
And we are the only podcasts that I know of at this moment that is
00:05:32
popculturediner
That covers chili boxes.
00:05:34
Steve
fully dedicated. that's That's how into the bachelor we are. So take that.
00:05:37
popculturediner
yeah Yeah, that's true. There could be another one, but I don't know about them, so they don't exist. um that's That's my that's you know i object impermanence or whatever. so um yeah i've So here's an update from the Summer Jelly Box also.
Jilly Box and Summer Aesthetics
00:05:53
popculturediner
ah The Weekender bag I've already used on two trips in the last month. And we're planning on taking another trip in a few weeks and I will be using it there, too. It's like perfect because I hated bringing two suitcases.
00:06:08
popculturediner
Like I would bring a suitcase for like clothes and stuff and then a suitcase for toiletries. And I just hated putting them in a suitcase. And it's so nice to have like a leather weekender bag. And then that's where all my toiletries go. And like that's perfect. ah Because listen, it takes it takes a lot to to to look semi acceptable.
00:06:21
Steve
No.
00:06:26
popculturediner
And then I I got the add on of a black and white camera and I brought it with me on the trip and I took some photos. I think I took about 15 photos of the 36 that I have. So, you know, once those are used up, I will develop them and I will report back. But I, I went on a ferry. And I took pictures with it and took pictures of like random signs and my cherry picking and whatever.
00:06:51
Steve
Mm-hmm
00:06:59
popculturediner
Just tried to be aesthetic with it.
00:07:00
Steve
Okay Hmm
00:07:01
popculturediner
so So those are two of the things that I've used the most from the last chili box, plus like the perfume ah because it's very summer, beachy smelling. So I've been using that. um This next one, I think it's supposed to be kind of cozy. I can't remember. I think it's supposed to be cozy. um And I did buy an add on and I'm going to literally forget when I come. So I'm going to be like, oh, yeah, I forgot about this.
00:07:25
popculturediner
ah But I bought it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I did that for myself. I'm so nice.
00:07:25
Steve
It's my favorite part, where you're like, oh, I forgot I asked for this.
00:07:30
Steve
Yeah, it's great.
00:07:31
popculturediner
um But I bought a candle because I just like I'm like, and you know me, you know, I love candles.
00:07:36
Steve
The lady loves candles.
00:07:36
popculturediner
So, yes, I'm really excited. So anyway, that's some exciting news up at the top is we are going to get the fall jilly box. So when that comes, we will premiere it here and you'll get to see it first.
Bachelorette Season Highlights
00:07:48
popculturediner
um But let's get to Melbourne, because there are 15 men left.
00:07:51
Steve
Oh, let's.
00:07:54
popculturediner
And Spencer, do you think Spencer has golden retriever energy? Jen says Spencer has golden retriever energy.
00:08:04
Steve
Um, maybe, I don't know. I don't know if I trust Jen's taste in, in men or ability to identify what's good and what's not. And I, I think, I, I think the wheels are coming off at this point, so I don't know.
00:08:17
popculturediner
Wow, I think Spencer has um Jack Russell energy.
00:08:21
Steve
Yeah. That's the thing is like, he's some sort of dog. but I don't think he's a golden retriever.
00:08:25
popculturediner
No, I think he's a Jack Russell, which i I mean, listen, my dog is basically like a big Jack Russell.
00:08:26
Steve
No, this.
00:08:28
Steve
Yeah.
00:08:31
popculturediner
I have nothing against Jack Russells, but I think that that's his energy.
00:08:31
Steve
Yeah. He's smart, but yippy.
00:08:35
popculturediner
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I wouldn't say Golden Retriever energy.
00:08:39
Steve
No, no.
00:08:40
popculturediner
I'm trying to think of any guy um on the season has Golden Retriever energy.
00:08:46
Steve
No, I don't think so.
00:08:46
popculturediner
No, I don't think so. But that's fine. You don't need golden retriever energy. But um so but Spencer is looking for peace in the house. He wants everyone to set their differences aside. And, and Devin's like, Oh, well, some people are hoping, you know, they've got something real with Jen, but I know that what I have is real. So everybody else can just
00:09:09
Steve
Mm hmm. Yeah, piss off.
00:09:11
popculturediner
you know, F off or whatever, yeah.
00:09:12
Steve
Yeah.
00:09:14
popculturediner
um But Spencer also gets kind of a thrill date.
00:09:18
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:09:18
popculturediner
The date card says, can our love take us higher? And they're going in a helicopter. And um they go to the 12 apostles, which is which is pretty cool.
00:09:29
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:09:31
popculturediner
um And I think that's a cool date. I would like that. I'm a little tentative about helicopters. I actually like feel like I'd be more comfortable jumping out of a plane than flying in a helicopter.
00:09:42
Steve
Yeah, I what yeah don't know.
00:09:43
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:09:45
Steve
It's hard to say just because the helicopter to me doesn't seem like it should work. It just feels naturally dangerous to me. I'm like, why why isn't this should be so spinning uncontrollably?
00:09:51
popculturediner
Well, they get in accidents a lot.
00:09:54
Steve
Yeah, they do.
00:09:54
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:09:55
Steve
it's you You were in a helicopter accident?
00:09:56
popculturediner
Oh. I forgot. um I kind know I heard this story um on TikTok. Well, actually two different stories. This was wild. But one of them was about this lady who was like a skydiver. She she did like skydiving regularly. And her parachute malfunctioned, but it was like a really specific like part of the equipment on the parachute. It's like these connectors
Helicopter Date Debate
00:10:23
popculturediner
that keep everything together. And the only way you would know that that's like the most important part about like keeping a parachute together is if you also regularly went skydiving and it was like her husband tried to kill her by like
00:10:41
popculturediner
on doing these things in her parachute because like her main parachute didn't work. And then she tried the back of one and it didn't work either. And she felt 4000 feet or something like that and still lived, which is wild.
00:10:51
Steve
What? How do you live?
00:10:52
popculturediner
I don't know.
00:10:53
Steve
Wouldn't you just make, you know, like, and and I would
00:10:54
popculturediner
But she was in like Australia. I think she thinks she was Australian, which is just there you go. There's the tie in.
00:11:00
Steve
I think, like, yeah I would assume it would do like a Looney Tunes thing.
00:11:02
popculturediner
Let me see if I can find her name.
00:11:04
Steve
Like, like were you, you know, like, Wile E. Coyote falls, and then he just makes the imprint in the ground. Like, how do you survive that?
00:11:10
popculturediner
I don't know. um Hold on. Let me see. Like I'm serious. Then there was like another person who whose parachute got sabotaged and it was like less sophisticated by like the other woman like she and and like her boyfriend or husband or something.
00:11:24
Steve
What?
00:11:26
popculturediner
We used to go skydiving together and then he was having like an affair with this other lady and then she sabotaged like the wife or girlfriends like
00:11:35
Steve
Oh my god, is is this a salacious murder podcast now? Is that?
00:11:38
popculturediner
No, but I just I was like whoa like that's so wild.
00:11:39
Steve
ah
00:11:42
popculturediner
Okay. Yeah, this is the lady. Okay um This is so I'm trying to find the name Was it okay? No, that's the that's the other woman um Victoria
00:11:52
Steve
I just need to know if she's a cartoon coyote or not.
00:11:55
popculturediner
Yeah, hold on. um Okay, so this is from the BBC. I'll try to remember to add this. I mean, this is so random. But yeah, okay. Yes. Okay, so Victoria silliers. I think that's how you would pronounce her last name are Killiers.
00:12:07
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:12:08
popculturediner
I'm not sure. um This is in 2015. She survived a 4000 foot fall. i I don't know how she did it. um But yeah, so her husband did it. um He sabotaged the um parachute. And before that, he had um caused a gas leak at the house.
00:12:28
Steve
Oh.
00:12:29
popculturediner
He tried to kill her with a gas leak and it didn't work. So then he sabotaged her parachute.
00:12:34
Steve
Wow. So he's like really committed.
00:12:35
popculturediner
Yeah. Yes, it was like it was like the same day or the day after or something like that.
00:12:37
Steve
Like I feel like if the gas leak didn't work.
00:12:42
Steve
Oh, come on.
00:12:42
popculturediner
I mean, it was like it was like, well, if i that didn't get her. I'm going to get her this way. Like it was really fast.
00:12:47
Steve
Good. Okay. So this is, this really is like, like a roadrunner Wiley coyote type situation. Like, or like his wife is secretly Mr. Bean or yeah.
00:12:58
popculturediner
I don't know it's it's really we I mean well I mean good for her that she's like the roadrunner I mean for real because yeah it's just such it was such a shocking story I like couldn't believe it and then when I was looking up this story to find out more information.
00:13:05
Steve
yeah
00:13:13
popculturediner
um Then I found that other story about like this other woman who like sabotage someone's and I'm like, wow, it's amazing. and And basically the consensus was like the most dangerous part of parachuting is like other people screwing with the equipment, you know, and I'm like, wow, that actually makes me feel like safer in a way.
00:13:31
Steve
Yeah. That makes sense.
00:13:36
popculturediner
Um, but yeah, I couldn't anyway,
00:13:37
Steve
Mm hmm.
TikTok Skydiving Story
00:13:39
popculturediner
uh, really, really surprising stuff.
00:13:43
popculturediner
Um, anyway, so, um, I would, but I would still, even with those stories, I feel like I would rather jump out of a plane than go in a helicopter.
00:13:43
Steve
Wow.
00:13:52
popculturediner
But I mean, I might do both.
00:13:53
Steve
Yeah, but like, but like, if you if you have a gas leak the day before, maybe think about like, you know, kind of dialing it back a little bit, because clearly, like your yourre your luck's not trending in the right direction.
00:13:54
popculturediner
I don't know.
00:14:02
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:14:05
popculturediner
Yeah, it says, yeah, the article says just days earlier, silliers could cause a gas leak at their home by losing a gas valve fitting in a kitchen cupboard.
00:14:10
Steve
Oh my gosh.
00:14:14
popculturediner
Yeah, it's I mean, it's like just divorce her. Hello.
00:14:20
Steve
Yeah, that seems a lot easier.
00:14:20
popculturediner
um That's an option.
00:14:22
Steve
why Why would we not do that?
00:14:22
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:14:24
Steve
Yeah, that's so weird.
00:14:26
popculturediner
Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, he's yeah, he got put away for a long time.
00:14:31
Steve
That's good.
00:14:31
popculturediner
um Yeah.
00:14:32
Steve
Yeah, I mean, and that's that's a good lesson for anyone, you know? If you're if you're unhappy in a relationship, ah you can just not be in it, ah which usually works out better than doing actual crimes.
00:14:42
popculturediner
Yeah, and and that well, and we'll get to that with the group date because that's some advice that um some sister. um ah Sister ah Bachelorette gave, you know, so yeah.
00:14:56
Steve
Hmm.
00:14:58
popculturediner
OK, wait, now I want to see. Because this is an old one. I thought he was put away for a long time. Now I want to make sure. Yes, for life. Yeah, he was jailed for life.
00:15:07
Steve
Good.
00:15:07
popculturediner
He was also a sergeant. Oh, he's British. I thought it was in Australia. OK, it's in the UK. Sorry. OK, maybe the other one was. I don't know.
00:15:18
Steve
We call that Australia North.
00:15:18
popculturediner
um
00:15:22
popculturediner
ah Not so down under just the regular up okay, so So yeah, so Spencer gets this thrill date um Then we go to the men Devin is kind of being a kiss ass. um but the But the thing is, he's still playing it so that he's focused on Jen.
00:15:45
popculturediner
And so he's not screwing himself over the way that the other men are doing by reacting to him, and they're not seeing it.
00:15:45
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:15:48
Steve
Yep.
00:15:52
popculturediner
And Thomas N is starting to get into the danger zone. like he Well, and he already kind of was. you know It's like every time he gets irritated, I'm like, you got to pull that back because you're going to get sent home.
00:16:00
Steve
Yeah.
00:16:01
popculturediner
There's like no way you're going to last if you keep getting like, agitated by him. You just got to shut him out, pretend he doesn't exist, which is something like Jonathan says later in the episode.
00:16:10
Steve
Yeah, well.
00:16:13
popculturediner
Like, I'm just here for Jen. Like, whatever.
00:16:15
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:16:16
popculturediner
This is all in noise. Who cares?
00:16:18
Steve
Yeah, and and i think I think he thinks that he has some sort of, I don't know, like immunity or standing because everyone in the house has to know that ah Sam N is like a leader ah in terms of like for Jen's affection.
00:16:18
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:16:35
Steve
So I think Thomas, and Sam M, yeah, not, did I say M or N, whatever.
00:16:37
popculturediner
Sam M, right? Sam M. Yeah, I've been just saying, in my notes, I've been saying Ginger Sam and the Love Virgin.
00:16:46
Steve
Yeah. There's the love version. And then there's the one that ah the internet keeps calling Chet Hanks.
00:16:49
popculturediner
We have Tyler at home.
00:16:51
Steve
Yeah. Chet Hanks slash Tyler at home.
00:16:56
popculturediner
That's so good.
00:16:57
Steve
Yeah.
00:16:58
popculturediner
Oh my god.
00:16:58
Steve
Credits to the internet for that one. But yeah, as soon as I read that in a tweet, I was just like, I i can't unsee.
00:17:00
popculturediner
That's a good one.
00:17:04
Steve
That's all he is.
00:17:04
popculturediner
yeah cha hanks Yeah, he he bothers me and not in a way that he would like.
00:17:07
Steve
ah Oh yeah. I mean.
Bachelor Contestants' Strip Performance
00:17:12
popculturediner
He just bothers me.
00:17:13
Steve
It's great.
00:17:13
popculturediner
I'm bothered.
00:17:14
Steve
like this This is the quality of the men on this season where it's like, oh no, the more I get to know you, the less I like. That's just like everyone basically.
00:17:20
popculturediner
Yeah, there's I mean, there's like a few that I like. It's the number is small, um but it's been consistent, so I'm happy so far, um but yeah.
00:17:24
Steve
Yeah.
00:17:28
Steve
Yeah. But anyways, Thomas, Thomas is like aligned with him. So he feels like, you know, he can, he can talk smack and he can have these big reactions and he's trying to hang with the big boys.
00:17:33
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:17:41
Steve
But it's like, no, that's just like your best friend is six, five with huge muscles. Like you can still get beat up, buddy.
00:17:46
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:17:48
Steve
Like it's not going to save you ultimately.
00:17:48
popculturediner
Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I got a problem with you too. I'm going to kick your ass. And I'm like, let's just calm down.
00:17:55
Steve
Let's calm it down, pal.
00:17:56
popculturediner
Let's just not do any of that. Um, so yeah, so they're both getting into the danger zone for sure. Um, Spencer has been, yeah, playing his own game, like staying in his own lane too, outside of like, he's like, we need to focus on Jen, you know, and like, but that's really his lane. Um, and on this one on one date, I think he did a good job. He had like a good, um vulnerable moment where he talked about like getting engaged and then almost getting married and then finding out his like you know bride-to-be was cheating on him and like how he felt so betrayed by that.
00:18:30
Steve
Mm
00:18:30
popculturediner
But she did him a favor by walking away. I did not get that favor.
00:18:34
Steve
-hmm. No.
00:18:37
popculturediner
And that's arguably worse. um But yeah, I totally empathize with that. and And you know, and and how much you learn about yourself when you go through something like that, you do learn a lot about yourself. And I do think it makes you more discerning and more ready for other things down the road, as long as like, you don't just go, well, everyone's like that, and everyone's out to get me. As long as you don't like you know go into that hole, then like I do agree with him. like i feel I felt similarly coming out of like my old relationship, so I don't know.
00:19:12
popculturediner
I related a lot to his story, and I i think he's very likable.
00:19:12
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:19:15
Steve
Oh.
00:19:17
popculturediner
I don't think he has golden retriever energy. I just that i just don't.
00:19:19
Steve
No.
00:19:20
popculturediner
but I think he's very likable, and I thought the rose was kind of like a given with him.
00:19:24
Steve
Oh, totally.
00:19:25
popculturediner
So I mean, I like Spencer. i I like him more than I did at the beginning. So that's one person who's like kind of growing on me. like i don't like I'm not like, wow, you're anything. But I'm like, he's nice. He seems nice and cool. I don't know. He seems normal. You don't like Spencer?
00:19:42
Steve
He's fine. He's fine.
00:19:43
popculturediner
Yeah, he's just fine. I don't know.
00:19:44
popculturediner
i don't i don't I'm not excited.
00:19:44
Steve
Yeah.
00:19:45
Steve
is it Is this the best we can do so far, bachelor? Come on.
00:19:48
popculturediner
I don't think so. um But yeah, of course, there's fireworks and kissing and all that stuff.
00:19:53
Steve
All of the, yeah, the usual, the usual.
00:19:55
popculturediner
Yeah. And then I thought it was interesting because because this week, instead of two oneon one-on-ones, there's a one-on-one, a big group date, and a small group date.
00:20:07
Steve
who
00:20:07
popculturediner
So that's kind of interesting. um And then so then they go to this like theater and then the hint is like a love down under. And this is what I like about this group date. They take a Vegas show with Australian guys and bring them back to Australia to teach everyone.
00:20:24
Steve
Yep. Bring them back. Bring them back.
00:20:26
popculturediner
And I was like, okay, sure, why not? And so they're like, OK, we're going to train you to like do these like strip tease dances and whatever. And I mean, I have to say like that dolphin thing, I'm like, everybody's trying it. That would take me out. Like I would just.
00:20:44
Steve
Oh, and most of them had it at like 60% on their first try.
00:20:47
popculturediner
I know I was so impressed.
00:20:48
Steve
And I was like, excuse me?
00:20:50
popculturediner
Yeah, they were just like they just like casually did it and I was like.
00:20:50
Steve
but
00:20:53
Steve
Oh my God.
00:20:54
popculturediner
I would need like mats and you holding me and, you know, like lots of training wheels before I could get there.
00:20:54
Steve
No.
00:21:00
Steve
it
00:21:02
popculturediner
And they all did like a good job.
00:21:04
Steve
Yeah.
00:21:04
popculturediner
I was like really impressed.
00:21:06
Steve
If you, if I did that and somebody videotaped it, you could play it back in slow motion, watch both of my wrists break, watch my spine go out of alignment and then watch my kneecap shatter as they hit the ground. Like I would not be able to do that at all.
00:21:19
popculturediner
Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, like I can't even be cynical about this group date because I was legitimately impressed with most of the men. Like, even if they weren't that good, they all really tried.
00:21:32
Steve
Yeah.
00:21:34
popculturediner
Well, all but one, but we'll get to that. But they all really tried. And like what they what some of them lacked in like technical ability, they did make up for. And like, I'm just going to go full out. And I was like, that was kind of cool.
00:21:46
Steve
Yeah.
00:21:48
popculturediner
Like I I was very impressed with all of them.
00:21:49
Steve
Honestly, like the The most, the one thing you can say about this season is every single man on this season of The Bachelor has potential to be a male stripper. Like just real good.
00:22:02
popculturediner
Yes, well, at least everyone on this on this group date, for sure, like the eight or whatever that went there, they all well, all the one asterisk, all the one have potential.
00:22:05
Steve
Yeah. Oh, for sure. Just. Exactly. Y'all can't win this season, but if you band together at the end, you can probably get a Vegas show going.
00:22:16
popculturediner
Yeah. That would be quite an interesting touring show for them to do, you know, sometimes they take bachelor on the road.
00:22:20
Steve
Yeah. I mean, Vic from the Jersey Shore, the Quito Guido, he got his own little striptease in Vegas.
00:22:24
popculturediner
Mm hmm.
00:22:27
Steve
Come on.
00:22:27
popculturediner
Yeah, yeah, so.
00:22:27
Steve
Like, why, why not? Why not?
00:22:29
popculturediner
Yeah, what? OK, I mean, I think and and do you think Jonathan was the one who should have won at all?
00:22:36
popculturediner
Because um I think so.
00:22:36
Steve
Yeah, he did.
00:22:36
Steve
he did Yeah, he did pretty exceptional, I think.
00:22:39
popculturediner
I was pretty happy. I mean, Jonathan is like definitely like way up there for me with Dylan. Like those two are still my favorites.
00:22:47
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:22:47
popculturediner
um And I think they both did a good job. I think they both committed and and did a good job. but And they were two of the best. And I just really, I was like, if you give it to Sam, if you give it to either Sam, I'm gonna be so pissed.
00:23:00
Steve
Oh, Sam's no Sam.
00:23:01
popculturediner
And I was like, give it to Jonathan, give it to Jonathan. And they were like, Jonathan, that didn't even make sense.
00:23:04
Steve
I'm sorry. Don't you mean chef flustered?
00:23:09
Steve
And then what are what are all, I'm trying to remember all their names, like the CEO ho and chef flustered makes you Oh, and then there was like trouser snake and fire boy.
00:23:13
popculturediner
the ceo No, the CE makes you O.
00:23:18
popculturediner
That was a good one.
00:23:22
Steve
And I don't, there's a lot of things going on.
00:23:22
popculturediner
but Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But I thought like, yeah, like I thought the firefighter thing. I mean, that's always a classic. That's like easy.
00:23:29
Steve
Yeah, can't go wrong.
00:23:30
popculturediner
You know, you can't. Yeah, you can't go wrong. um Yeah, it was like even, you know, like to Devin's credit, I think he did a good job like being entertaining despite not feeling like he had the ability to do it.
00:23:44
Steve
Yeah.
00:23:48
popculturediner
And so like he even put himself out there. So, OK, so let's let's ask the big question. Do you think Sam and the love virgins ah strategy was successful number one and genuine number two.
00:23:48
Steve
who
00:24:09
Steve
I think it was successful because he ends the night with a rose.
00:24:14
popculturediner
Mm hmm.
00:24:14
Steve
ah But I also think it was super cringy and ah was it genuine? Maybe?
00:24:21
popculturediner
You mean he you mean he ends like the episode with a rose. He did get a rose after the group.
00:24:24
Steve
Yeah, he answer no no no yeah not not after the group date, but i mean he he didn't get cut.
00:24:25
popculturediner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:29
Steve
I'd say that's that's the goal, is survival at this point.
00:24:29
popculturediner
Right.
00:24:32
popculturediner
Mm
00:24:32
Steve
It was super cringy, super lame, coming from a real doofus place of deep insecurity, which was like further emphasized. but because you know I always have this thought on this show. I'm like, is it this thing or is the guy an idiot? and yeah often it's hard to tell but here it's like gosh he's just like deeply insecure and so so lame and but I thought oh
00:24:57
popculturediner
-hmm I, so I have yet to listen to his podcast. I will gather more insight by next week, but I, like I said, I spent my vacation mostly listening to this rom-com. So I'm very sorry.
00:25:11
Steve
yeah that's fine that's fine but but so The thing that actually drove me nuts is on multiple occasions after this, he talks about, like he, he just backtracks immediately. Like if you're going to do something that lame, you have to commit.
00:25:25
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:25:30
Steve
Okay. Uh, Devin, terrible, terrible, but deeply committed. Okay. He's not backing down.
00:25:36
popculturediner
Yes.
00:25:37
Steve
Okay.
00:25:38
popculturediner
ah Yeah. So, okay. Yeah. This is what I think. If I if i was ah Sam, the Love Virgin's manager, coach, producer, whatever, my advice to him would be, If you wanna fighting chance, you can't just you can't just give her nothing.
00:25:57
Steve
Mm
00:26:01
popculturediner
and and And now some could argue he gave her more than than most of the men because he's burying his soul instead of his body and what whatnot. But if he felt... you know I don't know if it was like self consciousness not wanting to do certain things that he thought his family wasn't gonna like like there there could be a lot of options cuz he did mention you know like oh what if I'm the like only like the first persian stripper that did this or whatever and I'm like I I mean I I I'm sure there are other people who have done it before whatever
00:26:23
Steve
-hmm
00:26:32
popculturediner
but i'm But there could be a cultural familial thing that he was tentative about about you know doing that and wanted to try to find like a classy way around that. And I totally get that. like um But I think what he could have done is like done a little something. like you know Do what you're comfortable with. hint a little and then you could close by saying kind of similar to what he said. But like, you know, listen, you know, Jen, I'm a love virgin. This stuff is serious to me.
00:27:04
popculturediner
I want to bear my body the same time I'm burying my soul or I want to bear my soul before I bear my body or something like that.
00:27:06
Steve
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:27:10
popculturediner
Like he could have done it in a way that was like more, more enticing and still in the spirit of what all the other men were doing and not compromised if he felt like morally opposed to it or something. And I don't know if that's true. I don't know if he really felt that way. I'm just saying if that was part of his consideration, I think he could have strategized in a way that made that more interesting. And who was it who
00:27:43
popculturediner
Was it while Sydney had that really bad talent show thing? But, you know, there's there's some people who choose to do that stuff like really early. And, and you know, and he said, like, what do you say, like starting to fall in love?
00:27:51
Steve
Yeah.
00:27:55
popculturediner
We need to make a diagram still of the like starting to fall in love, fall falling in love, you in love, love.
00:27:57
Steve
Yeah. We still got to make our flow chart for the bachelor. here Here's like, we we need to have like a series where it's it's like animated TikTok videos where we describe weird niche things from The Bachelor that the rest of humanity would not understand because no one else in the universe is is going through these essential stages of starting to fall in love, falling in love.
00:28:10
popculturediner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:14
popculturediner
yeah
00:28:20
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:28:22
popculturediner
Which is, which is slightly after cause cause yeah. Cause he said like starting to fall in love and that's like slightly after the, like, I like you, you know, I'm, so I, yeah, I think that's like falling in love, probably falling to you comes before falling in love, I would assume.
00:28:32
Steve
Yeah. Where does falling for you come in and like that whole thing without the love.
00:28:41
Steve
Yeah.
00:28:42
popculturediner
Um, bless you. Um,
00:28:44
Steve
I'm sneezing on stream. ah
00:28:47
popculturediner
I think I think falling yeah falling for you would probably come before falling in love. That would be my assumption.
00:28:55
Steve
Okay. We got to write this all out.
00:28:56
popculturediner
But I don't know.
00:28:56
Steve
This is
00:28:57
popculturediner
We got it. Yeah, it's like you got it. You got to gauge it. I'm sure someone has done something similar to this before, because it's like a pretty common progression.
00:29:03
Steve
Yeah.
00:29:04
popculturediner
But it's like, you know what, when you feel it, and then you have people like Casey who come in and just say weird shit, like garden protect your heart. And then you're like, Well, where does that go on the list?
00:29:13
Steve
Yeah. Or this whole like ferocious love thing that we're committed to on this season.
00:29:16
popculturediner
Yeah, reckless love. And then yeah, flustered, bothered.
00:29:18
Steve
Reckless love.
00:29:20
popculturediner
Okay, all right. Let's, let's just, yeah, I hate, I hate him so much.
00:29:21
Steve
Yeah. You really bother me. like He says that. like That's not that what that means.
00:29:27
popculturediner
I hate him so much.
00:29:28
Steve
Yeah.
00:29:28
popculturediner
I hate him.
00:29:29
Steve
He bothers me, but not in the way that's horny.
00:29:31
popculturediner
He's making me side with Devin and that's weird. um But yeah, I'm like this guy.
00:29:36
Steve
Oh, I was doing the same thing throughout this whole episode.
00:29:39
popculturediner
Devin is right on like this guy sucks like and i I'm not that I'm like the world's biggest fan of Devin, but I'm like I understand where he's coming from because Sam is so fake.
00:29:39
Steve
I know.
00:29:42
Steve
It's like, no.
00:29:49
popculturediner
He's so fake. Well, and Jen even knows that she's just not realizing it. We'll get to that because I have a note on that anyway, not to get too off track.
00:29:56
Steve
Yeah.
00:29:56
popculturediner
OK, I'm getting worse.
00:29:57
Steve
I just, I can't, I can't deal with it.
00:29:58
popculturediner
I'm getting bothered.
00:29:58
Steve
Yeah.
00:29:59
popculturediner
Yeah, I'm just like so annoyed.
00:29:59
Steve
And again, I mean, Devin is basically at this point, it's like, I'm siding with Spike from Gremlins because the ah the guy yelling at him is Jamie Kennedy and Malibu's most wanted.
00:30:06
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:30:11
Steve
If you're under the age of 35, Google that.
00:30:13
popculturediner
You might miss some of those references, but that's OK. They're not important anyway.
00:30:18
popculturediner
um So OK.
00:30:18
Steve
Yeah.
Devin's Confidence and Vulnerability
00:30:20
popculturediner
Yeah, most were confident. The Love Virgin I think had a bad strategy. I thought Jonathan was clearly the best one. Okay, that those were my cliff notes. At the end of all this, Devin opens up about being self conscious of his body. And I thought it was like an endearing story. And he's like, Yeah, like, I just, you know, I just didn't know if I was going to feel comfortable doing that.
00:30:36
Steve
Yeah.
00:30:41
popculturediner
And he said, like, thank you for making me feel like I can do that and and just because I like don't have abs like that it's still and I was like that's sweet like I don't know I was like that's endearing that's like I can't be a jerk about it yeah I
00:30:52
Steve
I think he should have taken it further. Like I i enjoyed that he was open about that. um Even if it was, you know, in my head cynically, I'm like, it's probably a little performative just because he knew it was a good story.
00:31:03
popculturediner
don't know I'm not sure hard to say yeah
00:31:05
Steve
What, but that's, that's the line, right? It's like, it's probably a sincere truth that he has kind of drummed up specifically.
00:31:12
popculturediner
But he's like, this is a good moment for that.
00:31:14
Steve
That's a good moment for that.
00:31:15
popculturediner
But they also do, like producers do that.
00:31:15
Steve
Yeah.
00:31:18
Steve
Yeah.
00:31:18
popculturediner
They line people up for that.
00:31:19
Steve
Oh, sure. Totally.
00:31:20
popculturediner
you know So it's not just him.
00:31:20
Steve
Totally. Totally.
00:31:21
popculturediner
it's like It's production lining someone up for a story like that to share that at the right time.
00:31:22
Steve
Yeah.
00:31:25
Steve
Yeah. I liked his banana hammock. I thought that was great. Like, committed, committed.
00:31:29
popculturediner
Yeah. I think, yeah, yeah.
00:31:32
Steve
Uh, and then, and he was the only person who wore a banana hammock, which is in my mind, essential to the thunder down under like wardrobe, which as a side note, one time I was, uh, leaving for an international flight from the great city of Milwaukee.
00:31:39
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:31:47
popculturediner
Uh-huh.
00:31:47
Steve
And there was all these extremely tall, but beefy men. And I thought, are these like, is is it sports? is Are we, they football players? Like what's going on?
00:31:55
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:31:57
Steve
And they all had like, you know, like the really big suitcases, like the really big ones that are like four feet tall and like really wide.
00:32:01
popculturediner
Yeah, sure.
00:32:04
Steve
They each had like, yes, yes.
00:32:04
popculturediner
Yeah, kind of like walking wardrobes, yeah.
00:32:06
Steve
They each had like two of those.
00:32:07
popculturediner
Mm-hmm.
00:32:08
Steve
And I was like, my God, what is? And then some lady in front of us, she was like, that's the thunder from down under. I was at the show last night. I was like, what?
00:32:16
popculturediner
No way.
00:32:18
Steve
But then the suitcases became even more mysterious. How many little thongs do you need for one show? it's just well
00:32:25
popculturediner
I think it's mostly like the hats and the other props that get removed.
00:32:28
Steve
It's probably like the hats.
00:32:28
popculturediner
And they probably have a lot of shirts because they are ripping them all the time.
00:32:29
Steve
Yeah. Yeah. They're constantly ripping. Yeah, that's right.
00:32:33
popculturediner
Yes, they need a lot of shirts.
00:32:33
Steve
That's a good point.
00:32:34
popculturediner
Yeah, I it makes perfect sense to me.
00:32:35
Steve
Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah.
00:32:37
popculturediner
um So.
00:32:38
Steve
But anyways, banana hammock good, but I would have, if I were Devin as a man who also has a body, like my body is just like, it's bones.
00:32:41
popculturediner
Uh huh.
00:32:45
Steve
And then it's, it's just, it's pasty skin with a thin, sad layer of uneven fat. And I'm fine with it. but like it is not it is not what one would call, you know, like a old traditionally, ah you know.
00:32:59
popculturediner
Sure. Yeah. I mean, you just really painted quite the visual.
00:33:02
Steve
It is, yeah.
00:33:02
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:33:03
Steve
It's it's like if if you like left the Michelin man on a deserted island, like cast away, and then he just kind of withered away a little bit.
00:33:04
popculturediner
Sorry.
00:33:11
Steve
That's me.
00:33:11
popculturediner
OK.
00:33:12
Steve
ah Ladies. ah No, so anyways, what I would have done is I would have i would have used my my pasty canvas and i I would have taken like some production makeup and just like had them draw like fake abs on me.
00:33:24
popculturediner
Draw abs.
00:33:25
popculturediner
Yeah. like get I get them airbrushed. Yeah.
00:33:25
Steve
Yeah, I thought that would have been hilarious.
00:33:27
Steve
Yeah, oh, totally.
00:33:27
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:33:28
Steve
Just airbrush them on. Like that would have, just heightened it, man.
00:33:29
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:33:30
Steve
If if you,
00:33:31
popculturediner
Mm hmm.
00:33:32
Steve
are surrounded by these beefy muscle men who could actually do the dolphin dance stripper thing, which is cool.
00:33:37
popculturediner
Wild.
00:33:38
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:33:38
Steve
Like you have to go full drag, basically.
00:33:40
Steve
Like you just gotta to go nuts.
00:33:41
popculturediner
Yeah, I think that's that's so true. Yeah, he could have gone farther and he has a personality to do it. But here's the thing. I mean, even without going that far, what did they say about Devon? What did those Australian bachelorettes say about Devon? What did they say he has? Do you remember?
00:33:59
Steve
I don't remember. with the So they didn't say Arnaud when he like came over.
00:34:03
popculturediner
No, they said he had BDE. And who else has BDE?
00:34:06
Steve
BDE.
00:34:08
popculturediner
Who's like basically the grandfather of BDE that brought that into the mainstream?
00:34:11
Steve
Ooh. I actually don't know the answer to this. Do tell.
00:34:15
popculturediner
Pete Davidson.
00:34:16
Steve
Oh, Pete Davidson.
00:34:17
popculturediner
Because Ariana Grande said that about him.
00:34:17
Steve
it That's right. And everybody, okay, that's why.
00:34:21
popculturediner
Yes.
00:34:22
popculturediner
Yes.
00:34:22
Steve
Okay.
00:34:23
Steve
I didn't know the origin of the phrase, but I did associate it with
00:34:25
popculturediner
I mean, it's not necessarily the origin of the phrase, but it was like very popularized when she said that about Pete Davidson, then it was like big dick energy summer.
00:34:28
Steve
No, no, no. Yeah.
00:34:35
popculturediner
Like it's brat summer right now.
00:34:35
Steve
Sure, sure.
00:34:36
popculturediner
It was like big dick energy summer.
00:34:37
Steve
She's the one who took that that phrase and and basically brought it to the mainstream. That makes sense because everybody looks at Pete Davidson and you're like, I don't...
00:34:41
popculturediner
Yes.
00:34:45
popculturediner
How does he do it?
00:34:46
Steve
Is he that funny?
00:34:46
popculturediner
He's got a big dick energy. Yeah.
00:34:47
Steve
Does he save all his good jokes for Ariana Grande and not for SNL? Is that how it works? I don't know.
00:34:53
popculturediner
OK, I will say Bodies, Bodies, Bodies is one of my favorite horror movies to come out in the last like 10 years. So.
00:34:59
Steve
Do you think Pete Davidson is the essential component of that?
00:35:02
popculturediner
No.
00:35:05
popculturediner
Well, I mean, he kind of is. He's like the catalyst, I guess.
00:35:08
Steve
Yeah.
00:35:09
popculturediner
He's the catalyst of the movie, but he's not. Yeah, everybody else is. But what commitment
00:35:15
Steve
But if I, if I replaced him with another SNL alum, like if I replace him with Horatio Sands, does it, well, that's not a good example.
00:35:21
popculturediner
Well, I will say, I mean, I think he had the right like, my family is rich vibes that needed to be there.
00:35:24
Steve
Chris Catan. What's he doing?
00:35:32
Steve
Uh-huh.
00:35:35
popculturediner
You need someone who gives off my family is rich vibes.
00:35:36
Steve
Yeah.
00:35:40
Steve
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:41
popculturediner
And yeah, no, no, I think maybe maybe Andy Samberg could have done it, but
00:35:41
Steve
And he can do that. And I don't think Chris Kattan does that. No.
00:35:49
Steve
Andy Samberg, there you go. Like a young Andy Samberg. You could have gone with that, yeah.
00:35:51
popculturediner
yeah Yeah, but I think he's a little too corny and not scuzzy enough.
00:35:55
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:35:59
Steve
Yeah, that's fair too.
00:35:59
popculturediner
You know what I mean? Okay, anyway, yeah go see Bodies, Bodies, Bodies if you haven't.
00:36:00
Steve
Sure, sure. now you've
00:36:03
popculturediner
um I think everybody should see that, especially because that one New York Times reviewer who called it a 90 minute advertisement for cleavage when there was no cleavage in the movie and it just and it's a very good movie and why would you reduce it to that? And then you just talk about how great Jennifer's body is, which is a great movie.
00:36:15
Steve
Yeah.
00:36:19
popculturediner
But bodies, bodies, bodies, I think is arguably funnier.
00:36:20
Steve
Yeah. A 90 minute advertisement for cleavage. You don't need to advertise that.
00:36:24
popculturediner
Yeah. Because Amanda Stenberg has boobs.
00:36:25
Steve
It's fine. oh Who knew?
00:36:29
popculturediner
And wears clothes and they were like, are you serious? Did you not hear about this? This is like two year old ah beef at this point.
00:36:36
Steve
No, this is I just think it's funny because I'm like I was like running through my head. I'm like, I don't think any but like they're in like t-shirts, maybe like in clothes.
00:36:44
popculturediner
Yeah, they're just wearing shirts. They're just wearing regular shirts.
00:36:48
Steve
Yeah.
00:36:48
popculturediner
OK, sorry, I don't want to get so off track, but but this was this was the yeah, this is like what? How old is this beef? Two or three years old? When did bodies bodies?
00:36:55
Steve
Yeah, it's a couple of years old.
00:36:56
popculturediner
I think it was twenty twenty two, summer twenty twenty two, maybe.
00:36:59
Steve
Yeah.
00:36:59
popculturediner
um So basically, there was this whole thing. I was excited to see the movie. I was I was very ready to go see it in the theaters. I was really looking forward to it. And then I heard this like New York Times review that called it like a 90 minute advertisement for cleavage. And then a man like Sandberg decided to message the reviewer on like Instagram and said something something to the effect of, and i might I'm probably, this is a paraphrase, but it was something like, um maybe if you spent less time looking at my boobs, you would actually like watch the movie and enjoy it. And then like, and it was like winky face, like, you know, tongue out emoji, whatever.
00:37:28
Steve
Yeah.
00:37:32
popculturediner
And, and then this reviewer, uh, came to like tick tock and maybe Instagram, maybe it was Instagram first. I don't know. I know it was on tick tock and was like all like white woman tears, like, Oh, I was victimized. I was personally victimized by a man, the Stenberg, because they called me out for, for saying it was a 90 minute advertisement for cleavage.
00:37:53
Steve
Okay, this is the twist I didn't expect. I didn't expect a woman.
00:37:55
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:37:56
Steve
I thought it was just like some scuzz dude, like.
00:37:58
popculturediner
No, it's it's a it's a white woman whose dad worked for whose dead day worked for the New York Times.
00:38:03
Steve
Oh, nice. so
00:38:05
popculturediner
Nepo baby and talked about how, you know, she was ah legitimately um like she had a legitimate right to write for the New York Times because of this, that and the other thing and then just failed to mention.
00:38:19
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:38:20
popculturediner
But my daddy works there also.
00:38:23
Steve
Yeah, you know.
00:38:23
popculturediner
And he got me a job, you know. um Yeah.
00:38:26
Steve
Yeah, that's not fair. Come on.
00:38:28
popculturediner
Yeah, definitely Nepo Baby vibes. And then people started to like dig out her other reviews for things where it was like, oh, that was kind of problematic. Oh, that wasn't a great choice. And and then she kind of like disappeared for a while, but she still has a job. um So that's why i cancel culture isn't real. But ah that just I that was the most annoying review I've ever read in my life. And then like in that same breath in that same week, she had talked about how great Jennifer's body was and like just no awareness of how weird it is to dog on bodies, bodies, bodies, and then talk about how great Jennifer's body was just like no idea.
00:39:08
popculturediner
Anyway, and the these are some of my personal interests.
00:39:09
Steve
Yeah.
00:39:13
popculturediner
If you want to know more about things like that. Maybe someday I'll revive Ice Scream Sunday and we'll talk more about horror movies um because I have lots of feelings about horror movies. So let's get back into ah the thing you're here to listen to us talk about, which is anything we want. So Devin really hates Ginger Sam and so do I, and he thinks Sam is fake as hell and so do I.
00:39:32
Steve
Yeah.
00:39:39
Steve
Yeah, nobody talks like that for real Mm
00:39:39
popculturediner
And and then No. And so here here's where it comes. So like so Sam gets a ginger. Sam gets one on one time. Wait. Chet Hanks gets one on one time with Jen. And and she's like, oh, like.
00:39:51
Steve
-hmm
00:39:54
popculturediner
like Colonel Flustered, wait, that would make too much sense. Chef Flustered, um whatever. And he's like, well, you know, she's like, well, like, what did she say? You don't, you don't get flustered on me or whatever. He goes, and he's like, well, you bother me. And he said it again.
00:40:09
Steve
You bother me.
00:40:09
popculturediner
And she goes, she goes, what movie did you get that from? And she's going to ignore that instinct. But that was the right question to ask.
00:40:19
popculturediner
because that feels like rehearsed.
00:40:19
Steve
Yeah.
00:40:23
Steve
Yeah, it does.
00:40:23
popculturediner
And so when she says, what movie did you get that from? I'm like, yes, you're asking the right questions.
00:40:28
Steve
Meanwhile, after she asked that, I'm yelling at the TV screen, one that needs a revision on the script.
00:40:32
popculturediner
Yeah. You bother me. Like, listen, I'm almost done with this rom-com book. It's very cute and good. And I like it. And the writing's good. Okay. And they don't say you bother me.
00:40:45
Steve
Yeah, that's not part of when Harry met Sally that I know of now no You've got pale
00:40:47
popculturediner
No, not cute, not cute. I. Yeah, exactly. No sleepless in Seattle here. No, you've got mail. That's probably my favorite. um It is, I think it's very good um anyway.
00:40:59
Steve
I like it conceptually because just the idea of like a small family friendly bookstore that it's it's like, yeah, what if you like married Jeff Bezos?
00:41:09
popculturediner
Well, you know, OK, ah I wrote a grad school paper on it, so.
00:41:15
Steve
About marrying Jeff Bezos?
00:41:17
popculturediner
No, but you've got mail. Because i was in my that wast that that was in the the what is the Internet class.
00:41:20
Steve
It's what I just like watching people in the 90s use the computer. Like that's one of my favorite things in a movie. Oh yeah, that's a good one.
00:41:27
popculturediner
Yeah. Oh, God, that was one of my favorite classes. And we watched You've Got Mail, The Net and um War Games. And we had to pick what we what we wrote a what we wrote um about.
00:41:36
Steve
Oh.
00:41:41
popculturediner
And I said and I did. I used that joke. You know, the on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog near New Yorker cartoon.
00:41:46
Steve
Hmm.
00:41:49
popculturediner
So I did the on the Internet, nobody knows you're a fox.
00:41:53
popculturediner
And I was like, that's a the best title I wrote probably in my grad school career. And I got to write about, yeah, you've got mail. And then i I just really became endeared to it. I was like, wow, it is really a product of the time. It is such a time capsule.
00:41:53
Steve
I got it.
00:42:09
Steve
Mm-hmm Yeah, it's it's I don't know movies like that are amazing Same thing with the net to like there's this whole plot point that centers around like her going online to like order pizza And it is like a catastrophic event No, it's just amazing.
00:42:09
popculturediner
It's so special that we have it. And the writing's really good. So just saying.
00:42:22
popculturediner
Yeah. And we did not think that was going to be that was not a thing when that movie came out. Yeah.
00:42:27
Steve
It's like watching man discover fire or like the beginning of 2001 of space Odyssey. It's just like
00:42:32
popculturediner
Yeah. So just like, OK, so there's that new Colleen Hoover movie coming out. Right. And i I mean, basically, Sam is giving me all the vibes of like the bad guy in that movie.
00:42:44
Steve
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:44
popculturediner
No spoilers. I'm just being vague, not that. I mean, don't go see that movie and don't read that book, please.
00:42:52
Steve
Yeah, everybody has met a guy like him too because yeah, it's like your your friend who continuously gets in toxic relationships and then you're like constantly like, you know, you can do better blah, blah, blah.
00:42:52
popculturediner
um but But, yeah, so, yeah, yeah.
00:43:06
Steve
And then they're like, Okay, I met a new guy, I'm really excited to introduce you to him. And then it's that guy, like every time, every single time.
00:43:12
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:43:16
popculturediner
Yeah, it's like, well, he spackles the walls after he punches holes in them, so it's fine.
00:43:16
Steve
It's like, it's okay, yeah.
00:43:21
popculturediner
He cleans up his messes.
00:43:22
Steve
He's back on the walls every bunch of solos.
00:43:23
popculturediner
Um, but like, you know, but it's like Jen saying the things that she, that she should be paying attention to.
00:43:27
Steve
No, that's it.
00:43:36
popculturediner
Cause she even says like, you're bad news. And like, she's saying this stuff playfully, right? Like what movie did you get that from?
00:43:40
Steve
Yeah.
00:43:42
popculturediner
You're bad news. And I'm like, those things that are automatically coming out of your mouth are the red flags that you should be paying attention to right now.
00:43:49
Steve
Oh, and her whole story.
00:43:49
popculturediner
This guy is just made of red flags.
00:43:52
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:43:52
Steve
What is her story?
00:43:53
Steve
Because every bachelor it reads needs a story. And her whole story is she gets into toxic relationships with men who that are bad for her and she loses herself in them.
00:43:55
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:44:02
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:44:02
Steve
And right now it's like, you are you are horny for Chet Hanks.
00:44:09
Steve
and you are horny for Pete Davidson, which are both opposite ends of the spectrum of bad guys you shouldn't date.
00:44:11
popculturediner
yeah
00:44:16
Steve
And so you have found both of them, and you're they're your front runners currently.
00:44:16
popculturediner
Yeah, it's just like.
00:44:20
Steve
So maybe take a step back.
00:44:21
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:44:23
Steve
she's she It's like she's in the the Hannah Brown School of bacheloretting right now.
00:44:23
popculturediner
I'm just like, look at these. There's like several. Yeah, there's like several normal sweet guys on this show who have just been very even keeled and nice and focused, not involved in drama, very focused on Jen and and haven't caused yeah haven't caused any tension.
00:44:39
Steve
No, no.
00:44:44
popculturediner
And she just seems to be ignoring them.
00:44:46
popculturediner
And that's a little frustrating.
00:44:46
Steve
Yeah, ma'am, ma'am, I see that you, you have a Devon there.
00:44:49
Steve
I was wondering if I could interest you in a Dylan instead, like perchance.
00:44:52
popculturediner
Yeah, know why per chance. Check out Dylan. He he also put a lot of personality into his dance.
00:44:59
Steve
Yeah.
00:44:59
popculturediner
He was also by far not the best, ah but he made up for it because he was like really excited about it, too, which I thought was cute. He was like, Jen doesn't know what's coming for her. oh then I'm going to do a good job.
00:45:10
Steve
Well.
00:45:12
popculturediner
And I was like, OK, OK. Like I was like, I appreciate the spirit. I think he did a good job. Um, but anyway, uh, there are, okay. So anyway, so she calls him bad news and he has bad news. And then there's some men who are talking about what will the Rose mean to you? And these are all the men who don't stand much of a chance. And so they give him a little bit of air time to talk about like, this is what the Rose would mean to me. And I'm like, but you're not going to be getting it. Because it's going to go to Devin, and then right afterwards it went to Devin. um But I think he earned it. um So I think that made sense.
00:45:41
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:45:43
popculturediner
And I wasn't worried about Jonathan getting a rose at like the end of like at the end of the episode. I knew he would still get one. So I wasn't concerned. I did not think his rose was on the line just because Devin got it. Um, but I loved that it made both the Sam's feel uneasy as it should. Um, but then this was funny. So Kevin really does like to stir the pot. He's good TV, I have to say, and he really like rubbed it in cause he was like,
00:46:09
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:46:11
popculturediner
me getting this rose is a testament to the type of man that Jen wants in her future and then Sam said something back kind of like yeah like me not getting in is a testament to I don't know whatever he started he said something that like didn't a hundred percent made makes sense but it just made him sound like a passive-aggressive asshole like Devin is grandstanding and he should not be doing that um
00:46:17
Steve
No.
00:46:25
Steve
Yeah, it was double.
00:46:40
popculturediner
But and sometimes like when when a guy on the show is likable and they say that stuff, it plays a lot better. Like there are people on the show who have said very similar things to what Devin said, and nobody thought twice about it because they liked the guy.
00:46:47
Steve
Mm
00:46:55
popculturediner
um That's not the case here. So he just sounds like a dick. But then Sam responding the way he does, it he just sounds so childish. He's just he's such a no, you are. kind of a guy and like Devin has more creative insults.
00:47:09
Steve
-hmm Yeah
00:47:12
popculturediner
So between the two of them, like Sam just has rocks in his head and because he just says the same. He's just like a sound board.
00:47:20
popculturediner
He just says the same shit over and over again. And Devin can pull something more original out. So but between the two of them, there's no battle of wits to be had because there is no wit with Sam.
00:47:20
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:47:30
Steve
No.
00:47:31
popculturediner
um Now we get to an interesting part of the episode because Aaron gets a call
00:47:39
Steve
Oh, yes, he does.
00:47:39
popculturediner
about fighter pilot training. That's apparently he's been waiting for this call for a year and a half.
Aaron's Fighter Pilot Call and Speculations
00:47:48
popculturediner
And they call while he's on the show.
00:47:51
Steve
Of course, this always happens.
00:47:53
popculturediner
Holy, do you think that's a coinky dink? Or do you think it's not a coinky dink?
00:47:58
Steve
It's completely contrived.
00:48:00
popculturediner
Well, I mean, because we already think that Aaron is this. So here's OK. Well, here's me big tin foil hat conspiracy lady.
00:48:04
Steve
I love it, I love it.
00:48:09
popculturediner
So so we have already said Aaron is like this manufactured guy. There's just like nothing authentic about him, right?
00:48:16
popculturediner
He brought a fake book onto the show. I have this weird.
00:48:16
Steve
Yeah.
00:48:19
Steve
He's an industry plant. that's where People always call people.
00:48:22
popculturediner
Yes, yes. Nepo, baby.
00:48:25
Steve
There's someone I don't like in in in the world of pop music.
00:48:25
popculturediner
um
00:48:28
Steve
Ergo industry plants.
00:48:29
popculturediner
industry plant. Yeah, so because yeah, because people don't put I mean, they would have called Britney Spears an industry plant.
00:48:37
Steve
Yeah, it's like, what do what do you think the the music industry is?
00:48:37
popculturediner
You know what I mean?
00:48:40
Steve
It's people being planted.
00:48:40
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:48:42
Steve
That's what but they do.
00:48:42
popculturediner
Yeah, it's like, that's what that's what happens. But yeah, so yeah, I just but I do think He probably had some idea that he could get a call around that time. you know He's like, I've been waiting a year and a half for it. But they probably did say something like, well, if it happens, it's going to be between this month and this month. So he probably had a fairly good idea that he was going to get a call. you know while he was on the show if he did kind of okay and so I think he this is just a theory I have no idea I have not read anything like I said I was on vacation sometimes I do more deep dives and I have not done any of that so this is just like off the top of my head but I think he knew that
00:49:13
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:49:28
popculturediner
And knowing that he went, well, let's just like go have fun. i'll And I'll just do I'll do things to shake things up. Producers probably had him on the show because his brother was on the show.
00:49:39
Steve
No, 100%.
00:49:40
popculturediner
And so, you know, so it's just like an easier sell because I don't think they would just let someone on the show like that who potentially would get called into this training.
00:49:40
Steve
Yeah.
00:49:46
Steve
No.
00:49:49
Steve
Yeah.
00:49:50
popculturediner
You know what I mean?
00:49:50
Steve
And also it's worth saying too that he gets this call and then he's like, ah, damn, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna have to talk to Jen. And like the way that it is set up, I'm like, would you even, if this is your lifelong dream, as you have told us, the audience via the the confessional part of the interview, this is your lifelong dream.
00:50:03
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:50:06
popculturediner
Mm hmm.
00:50:10
Steve
It is something you have waited a year and a half for. This is your only chance to fulfill your lifelong dream.
00:50:14
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:50:16
Steve
And you're like, maybe I should throw it away for a girl I've known for five days.
00:50:23
popculturediner
Two things come to mind. One, the hills.
00:50:28
Steve
who
00:50:28
popculturediner
Lauren, not going to Paris.
00:50:31
Steve
ah Terrible.
00:50:33
popculturediner
She'll never live that town, even though she's extremely successful.
00:50:37
Steve
She didn't go to Paris, yeah.
00:50:37
popculturediner
ah She didn't go to Paris, friends. She didn't go to Paris. And then the other thing I'm thinking of, this was all over my FYP, so I don't know if you heard about it. Are you familiar with ballerina farms?
00:50:49
Steve
I have no idea what that is.
00:50:51
popculturediner
Okay. Okay. Oh my God. I can't believe, I can't believe how many roads I'm taking us down.
00:50:52
Steve
You gotta educate me here. I can't believe you, Steve!
00:50:57
popculturediner
No, I just can't believe, I'm like, how many asides am I going to take us down in this episode? You're getting bonus feature on top of bonus feature and we don't even have a Patreon. You're just getting this all for free.
00:51:06
Steve
Yeah.
00:51:06
popculturediner
Aren't you lucky? Okay.
00:51:07
Steve
Let's try it.
00:51:08
popculturediner
So, so here's the background of Ballerina Farms. I promise I'll tie it in. So there is a family on primarily TikTok. Um, I don't know if I don't know anything about Instagram. So if they're on TikTok, I know about them. So they're on TikTok.
00:51:22
Steve
Mmhmm.
00:51:22
popculturediner
They have like millions of followers. and they gained popularity because they had a lot of kind of like home setting content like make a lot of food from scratch and you know like we raise our own chickens and we uh uh produce milk that uh is not legal uh you know anyway That contains a lot of pathogens, just saying, ah nutrition, master's student in here, don't drink raw milk, don't drink raw milk, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. Okay. um That being said. But it was like a very idyllic thing, you know, because it's like, oh my God, she's making sourdough from scratch, and she's got all these kids, and like, she's doing this stuff every morning.
00:51:55
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:51:59
popculturediner
It's like she's making, she's making shit from scratch. It's just that you're like, you can just buy that from the door. Like, why are you spending all the time doing that stuff? um And then someone like peeped the the oven in the background of a video and it's like it's like tens of thousands of dollars. It's like a very expensive oven.
00:52:16
Steve
Is that like a wolf range or something?
00:52:18
popculturediner
It's called like... Oh God, what is it called? It's like, it's A-G-A. um And I don't know if it's like A-G-A or if it's like, I thought someone pronounced it differently anyway, but it's, it's spelled A-G-A. It's a Swedish range cooker. There's only like two people in the United States that are like, in or there's like one person in the Western United States who like knows how to hook them up.
00:52:36
Steve
Okay.
00:52:44
popculturediner
So you gotta like get someone special to come and do it.
00:52:45
Steve
Oh my gosh.
00:52:47
popculturediner
They're super.
00:52:47
Steve
And and the the raw milk chicken people have it?
00:52:51
popculturediner
Yes. Well, because the husband, this is like a really long story and I'm going to try to truncate it. But anyway, um if you skip ahead, if you don't, I don't know the timestamp because we're doing this right now.
00:52:57
Steve
I'm very invested.
00:53:02
popculturediner
um So the husband's family owns jet blue.
00:53:08
Steve
What?
00:53:09
popculturediner
Yes, among other companies, like there's like some other airlines that they own and whatever.
00:53:11
Steve
Oh no.
00:53:15
popculturediner
So there was a big feature um in the times, ah like the UK times. And where they interviewed, they did a profile on Balorino Farms on the the um wife who runs it. um And let me get her name, Hannah Neelaman. And um and it was it's everywhere.
00:53:33
Steve
you
00:53:37
popculturediner
It's all over a tick tock, at least it's all over my F.Y.P. Everybody's talking about it um because, yeah, so like there was like this wave of everybody loved them and then like everybody found out how rich they were and then they were like, fuck them.
00:53:42
Steve
Okay.
00:53:50
popculturediner
And now it's like everybody feels bad for Hannah because um it the the farm is called Ballerina Farms because she is a Juilliard trained dancer.
00:54:01
Steve
Okay.
00:54:01
popculturediner
um ballerina And so she moved out to New York.
00:54:04
Steve
Sponsored by jet blue.
00:54:05
popculturediner
yeah Well, so no, this was before she met him. So like, so she was raised Mormon and then she like broke out on her own and like went to New York and this was her dream.
00:54:07
Steve
Okay.
00:54:13
popculturediner
And you know, it's like kind of around, you know, move there, maybe, maybe time to deconstruct, you know, like, you know, and you're,
00:54:15
Steve
yeah great story
00:54:20
popculturediner
Sprouting your wings and learning. Oh, maybe this whole um submit to your husband's thing is kind of bullshit and like Juilliard's pretty cool, right?
00:54:28
Steve
yeah
00:54:28
popculturediner
So she's like getting all this independence and then she like meets this guy and I can't remember how they met it's it's in the profile, but the thing is um He kind of pulled some strings and Got a seat next to her on on a flight and
00:54:38
Steve
Yeah. Great story.
00:54:49
popculturediner
So like kind of stalker vibes. um So it's like he knew she was on this flight.
00:54:51
Steve
Yeah.
00:54:53
popculturediner
He got on the same flight as her and like sat right next to her and then basically like convinced her to like date. And she didn't she wanted to finish her degree. And um they like got engaged within like a month or something like that and married within three months and then like had a baby within six months and she was like the first like pregnant Juilliard student in modern times.
00:55:23
Steve
Oh my God.
00:55:24
popculturediner
like, you know, whatever. um So it was and so it was basically like, she she had this dream to be a ballerina. Now she's got like, I don't know, nine kids or something like that, something heinous. She got a lot of kids.
00:55:37
popculturediner
And um And she, there was a space at this farm where she was supposed to like be able to dance and then they transform that into like a kid's play space or something like that. So like her dance studio is also gone.
00:55:37
Steve
Too many.
00:55:50
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:55:51
popculturediner
Um, and now she just, she takes her kids, you know, to dance classes whenever, like basically this whole profile was like this, this person was trying to get her Hannah alone. And it was like her husband was interrupting and answering for her. Her kids were interrupting her and pulling her time. And it's it's depressing. it's And also they don't have, they have like a housekeeper and they have like, they have a company. They like sell stuff too. They sell, you know, like, I don't know, bespoke shit, whatever.
00:56:21
Steve
Mm-hmm. Sure.
00:56:23
popculturediner
And, you know, like fancy candles and and whatnot.
00:56:25
Steve
I was just about to say fancy candles, but I was like, that's the first thing that came to mind, but I don't want Sammy to interpret that as a dig at her.
00:56:25
popculturediner
Yeah. Yeah. Fancy candles. are what there
00:56:31
popculturediner
Listen, I am not in their target demo whatsoever. This is not, I don't i don't rock with people who promote raw milk, okay?
00:56:31
Steve
but
00:56:34
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:56:38
popculturediner
um So, but anyway, so they were doing all this stuff, like whatever. So they have like, they have like a staff, they have some people who work, theyve they have people who like, you know, some somewhat work with the house and stuff but they don't have like nannies. She's got all these kids and she cooks everything from scratch and they don't have nannies or like any child care outside of like the occasional babysitter and and this was the thing that like put a chill down my spine is her husband said something to the effect of well um there are times uh and it sounded like it was like a regular occurrence where she gets so exhausted that she'll spend a week in bed and he just kind of said that in passing
00:56:58
Steve
Yeah.
00:57:16
Steve
Ooh.
00:57:17
popculturediner
And I was like, this is a yellow wallpaper situation, right?
00:57:21
Steve
Yeah, that's so weird.
00:57:22
popculturediner
Like to me, I'm like, that just sounds like the yellow wallpaper. Like that scares the ever living shit out of me. And it's not like I'm like, oh, feel bad for multi-millionaires or anything like that. But it's like, that's like somebody who very much gave up their dream. Um, to be with somebody and it moved really fast. It was like, you know, like we're together within a month. We're having a kid within six months or whatever. Like it was just like, boom, boom, boom, you know, Mormons move fast. And, um, and she went from being this like Juilliard trained ballerina to like, you know, a mom and, and yeah stay at home mom and wife.
00:57:55
Steve
ah It's like a cautionary tale for Aaron.
00:58:00
popculturediner
Right. So Aaron, what I'm saying is, you know, yeah, like you don't want to turn into ballerina farms.
00:58:04
Steve
No, you can have nine kids in raw milk and I don't want either of those things.
00:58:05
popculturediner
Like, you know, you don't want it you don't want it to be like fighter pilot farms. And, and then it's like, well, what happened to you becoming a fighter pilot?
00:58:12
Steve
Yeah.
00:58:15
popculturediner
And he's like, well, I gave it all up to like be with this girl, you know?
00:58:18
Steve
Yeah.
00:58:18
popculturediner
And so to Jen's credit, I mean, so yeah, I was like, when he's like, well, yeah, maybe I'll just have to see how this date goes and whatever. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, Are you goofy? Like you're you're leaving. You need to leave. You cannot say.
00:58:31
Steve
Yeah.
00:58:32
popculturediner
And even Jen was like basically like, yeah, I wasn't going to let you say, first of all, I don't think he had a super good shot.
00:58:36
Steve
Yeah. No.
00:58:38
popculturediner
And then, no, so it's like whatever. But she also was like, I would not want to be a source of resentment for you. So that's like the healthiest thing that Jen said so far on the show was like, I don't want to be a sort of.
00:58:48
Steve
ah
00:58:49
popculturediner
So she's got she's got some awareness.
00:58:50
Steve
Yeah, it's got something there.
00:58:51
popculturediner
She's got she's just got to tune into it more. um Yeah.
00:58:55
Steve
But I will say Aaron smart move and maybe this is why he he drew it out a little bit ah because he got to drive a race car. So.
00:59:03
popculturediner
Yeah, I think I think he did. But that's what I'm saying. Like, I feel like Aaron was just completely like, like a put on.
00:59:06
Steve
Mhm.
00:59:10
popculturediner
And also, I think that legitimizes them opening the door for whoever's coming in, someone from her past or whatever is coming on the show.
00:59:17
Steve
Mhm.
00:59:22
popculturediner
And if they're here to stay, I don't know. Sometimes it's like they come on and they say something and then they leave or whatever. Like, I'm so sorry. What should I do? Goodbye. um But if they're here to stay and like to date Jen, then someone coming off the show sometimes makes it easier to open the door for someone to come on.
00:59:39
Steve
Yeah.
00:59:39
popculturediner
um So we'll see. I don't know. But that's that's another theory that I have is they probably had.
00:59:42
Steve
We'll see.
00:59:46
popculturediner
They probably knew because he didn't seem shocked. by the call?
00:59:52
Steve
No.
00:59:53
popculturediner
If I was like, no, he was just like, he was like, Well, this is the call that I've been waiting on for a year and a half.
00:59:53
Steve
Well, he's not, he's not a real emotive chap either. He's just.
01:00:00
popculturediner
And it's like, I feel like you should feel something about that.
01:00:04
Steve
Yeah.
01:00:05
popculturediner
But it just kind of seemed like nothing. Um, I don't know. But yeah, I do think he wanted to drive a race car
Jen's Race Car Entrance
01:00:14
Steve
Mm-hmm
01:00:14
popculturediner
and I'm actually surprised he didn't win on this group date.
01:00:17
popculturediner
So like, so they, so they get to the group date and first of all, Jen coming out of that pink car was so cool. Very, very cool. And then I, yeah, I completely forgot like, oh yeah, this is Australia. So she wasn't driving.
01:00:31
Steve
Yeah, which I yeah and actually because for a second I was just like what and then I was like Oh, yeah, I forget different country.
01:00:33
popculturediner
That was like a good, that was like a good,
01:00:37
popculturediner
Yeah, Australia, right? Yeah. But I thought it was cool that that they had like those, like whatever those were, like the brick type of things that had like the pink powder in them.
01:00:37
Steve
So, you know
01:00:44
Steve
Oh, you mean you mean like the the empty Amazon boxes that they filled with pink powder?
01:00:48
popculturediner
It was like cool.
01:00:49
Steve
Yeah, that was dope. That was good.
01:00:51
popculturediner
I was like, yeah.
01:00:51
Steve
Yeah.
01:00:52
popculturediner
And I'm like, Jen's kind of feel like the coolest person ever. And then, yeah, she takes off her helmet and her hair let go and I'm like, Yeah, you're the coolest right now. Like, that was like the best entrance I may, maybe we've ever seen on The Bachelorette.
01:01:01
Steve
Yeah.
01:01:06
Steve
It's pretty incredible.
01:01:06
popculturediner
I don't know. It was pretty good.
01:01:07
Steve
ah
01:01:08
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:01:08
Steve
Also, you you really see the personalities of people who come out here because the one guy, you know, because they have to go to like driving school.
01:01:09
popculturediner
And then, yeah.
01:01:14
Steve
Also, Aaron, here's why you're not winning and also why I don't even know if you should be going to pilot school, dude, because you're the one guy in this group who knows how to drive a stick and you still lost the challenge.
Driving Challenge Humor
01:01:26
Steve
How is that possible? Like if you were to put me in a manual transmission vehicle right now,
01:01:27
popculturediner
Oh.
01:01:32
Steve
And, and we're like, you gotta, you literally got to drive around this race car track.
01:01:35
popculturediner
Mm hmm.
01:01:36
Steve
I'd be like, come get me in an hour after I stall out 37,000 times.
01:01:38
popculturediner
Yeah, that would be me too. Yeah, yeah, that would definitely be me.
01:01:41
Steve
Yeah. Yeah. I would literally just burn the clutch completely out. Just be metal grinding on metal.
01:01:46
popculturediner
Yeah, my husband keeps saying he wants to teach me, but then I.
01:01:51
popculturediner
And then I'm like, but the but any help but then he like picks the most random times. And then I'm also like, I just unless we're in like an emergency situation and like you pass out and I've got to like drive your car or something like that.
01:01:52
Steve
Why?
01:02:02
Steve
Yeah.
01:02:06
Steve
Also, he probably has the last stick shift. You can't go with most like cars right now. If I was like, I need a Toyota Camry with a stick shift, I would not be able to get one.
01:02:14
popculturediner
Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:15
Steve
You just you just can't get them anymore unless you have like a high-end car.
01:02:17
popculturediner
His whole family. Yeah. Well, yeah. his whole family, they like really like, well, not his whole family. It's mostly him and his sister. They really like driving. yes Yeah, stick shift.
01:02:27
Steve
Oh, yeah. There's stick shift people out there.
01:02:28
popculturediner
So, yeah, I don't know.
01:02:29
Steve
But again, it's like, what?
01:02:30
popculturediner
I have no desire. I just, I just want my life on easy mode.
01:02:31
Steve
No, don't learn it. that's like it
01:02:33
popculturediner
I don't care.
01:02:34
Steve
Yeah.
01:02:34
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:02:35
Steve
What's he going to teach you how to churn butter and thresh wheat and like ride a horse and buggy next?
01:02:38
popculturediner
Well, well, those are things that I'd probably be better at than him.
01:02:39
Steve
Come on.
01:02:43
Steve
Yeah.
01:02:43
popculturediner
So yeah.
01:02:43
Steve
I was going to say, actually, as, a since you're someone who like owns a loom, maybe you should learn how to drive a stick ship.
01:02:48
popculturediner
yeah well no i think i think that's like too technical i don't know i would just rather spend my time doing other things that is not interesting to me i'd much rather churn butter um so that's
01:02:59
Steve
Yeah. That sounds delicious.
01:03:01
popculturediner
Yeah, I mean, you can just put that stuff in a mason jar and throw it back and forth and it's kind of a fun game um anyway. So ah yeah, so most of them do kind of OK, I guess.
Jeremy's Clever Challenge Strategy
01:03:12
popculturediner
um But I think Jeremy had the best ah strategy of them all, because he's like, I'm not going to win.
01:03:16
Steve
Oh, yeah.
01:03:17
popculturediner
I'm just going to stop and kiss you. And I was like, that's smart.
01:03:19
Steve
Mm hmm.
01:03:20
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:03:20
Steve
This is the so like the weenie move earlier in the episode where what's his face is like, I'm not going to strip today so that I can tell you that I think that I'm almost falling in love.
01:03:28
popculturediner
Thomas, yeah.
01:03:33
Steve
Maybe kind of like that weenie move.
01:03:36
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:03:37
Steve
Real move, real move is I'm not going to win this. I'm going to slam on the brakes, make them think there's a medical emergency and make out like beautiful.
01:03:44
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:03:45
Steve
That is masterful.
01:03:45
popculturediner
Yeah. Or what he could do, you know, here's another thing Thomas could have done. Thomas, I hope you're taking notes. Um, he could have been like, I want to do this as like a private show for Jen. So Jen, can I steal you away? And then he wouldn't have had to do anything. Oh, sorry. Not, not Thomas. Sam.
01:04:04
Steve
Oh, Sam. Yeah, yeah Sam, not Tom, Sam and not Thomas.
01:04:06
popculturediner
Thomas, Thomas, Thomas did the nerdy.
01:04:08
Steve
And he did.
01:04:10
popculturediner
Thomas did a nerdy routine. He did a routine as a nerd. Sorry, Thomas.
01:04:14
Steve
Yeah.
01:04:14
popculturediner
So sorry. Sam N.
01:04:16
Steve
Yeah. Sam and salmon like the fish.
01:04:17
popculturediner
Salmon, not Thomason. Yeah,
Contestant Strategy Speculations
01:04:21
popculturediner
right. sam Sam the Love Virgin should have yeah pulled her like aside and then been like, OK, well, I'm not actually going to do a striptease for you, but I'm going to like bear my soul. But I want to do it you know one on one so that you know it's like important to me and whatever. How much better would that have been, anyway? I should just be like a bachelor coach because I could tell them how to do all the things that get them. They get them the good brownie points.
01:04:48
popculturediner
I've watched the show long enough the entire time it's been on. um So, OK, so, yeah, I thought that that was a really good um strategy.
Lack of Humor with Hakeem
01:04:56
popculturediner
I feel like Hakeem, if he had some funny segments, I feel like they cut out in the actual episode. I was very confused.
01:05:04
Steve
Yeah. He's like like, the way that they like, they frame him every, every single time they show him, he's like Roger Rabbit in anxiety mode, like trying to drive the car.
01:05:05
popculturediner
We missed out on on the JPJ moments with him.
01:05:15
popculturediner
ah um go Yeah, Yeah.
01:05:17
Steve
He's like, ah, or he's like, he's got the spider on him. Ah, or he doesn't know if he's going to get a rose at the end of this area. Like that's his whole thing.
01:05:24
popculturediner
Yeah, but I just feel like they didn't do it enough. I don't know. I was like looking forward to like funny Hakeem moments and then it was kind of like, OK, you didn't show me anything new.
01:05:28
Steve
Yeah.
01:05:36
popculturediner
I don't know.
01:05:36
popculturediner
I wasn't that excited about it.
01:05:36
Steve
Yeah.
01:05:38
popculturediner
So that was whatever. Yeah.
01:05:38
Steve
I do like just as a contrast, you know, like here's a man surrounded by, ah you know, super buff, confident dudes.
Hakeem's Bachelor in Paradise Potential
01:05:46
Steve
And he's just like, I am, i i my heart's going to explode. I'm so nervous. like
01:05:51
popculturediner
Yeah, yeah, I like him. But yeah, I just feel like they they didn't show him enough on this and then we don't get a chance to.
01:05:57
Steve
yeah It's okay.
01:05:58
popculturediner
I think he's going to be great on Paradise.
01:06:00
Steve
He was meant for paradise.
01:06:00
popculturediner
ah He's got to be on Paradise.
01:06:02
popculturediner
There's no way he's not going to be on Paradise.
01:06:02
Steve
Oh.
01:06:04
Steve
I said this last episode, I will say it again, the man was built for paradise.
01:06:05
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:06:09
popculturediner
Yeah, and he's going to like walk out with a really good relationship, too.
01:06:13
Steve
Probably, yes.
01:06:13
popculturediner
Yeah, it's gonna be great. Yeah, anyway, I'm i'm rooting for you Hakeem, but this was not your episode. um So yeah, so then Austin won by three seconds.
01:06:18
Steve
No.
01:06:22
popculturediner
So he showed up Aaron. I have to say that's not like that much diff like Aaron still did okay.
01:06:30
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:06:31
popculturediner
But yeah,
Austin's Surprise Challenge Win
01:06:32
popculturediner
I don't know. I was actually kind of surprised that Austin won because it seemed like he had zero experience, but then he just like really committed.
01:06:38
Steve
Yeah. He's, he's just, he's a quick learner.
01:06:39
popculturediner
So good for him.
01:06:41
Steve
I guess that's a good skill.
01:06:41
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:06:42
Steve
He seems relatively nice and maybe normal despite his, his bad haircut. He's got the haircut of like a 1980s professional wrestler in Alabama.
01:06:46
popculturediner
Yeah, I can't get over his haircut.
01:06:51
Steve
Like he's, it's not working for anyone.
01:06:51
popculturediner
It's just not working for me. Yeah, he seems he seems nice. Yeah, I don't know. I still like Jeremy. um I mean, I'm not like, again, he's fine. I'm not like super excited about him, but he seems fine. And he's like he's he was very smart. Like his play was very smart. But yeah. So Aaron gets someone on one time with Jen after this. And, you know, he's like, yeah, I'm a risk taker when I'm also close with my family and it's really good to be with you. And he's basically like, well, I'm going to wait and see if I get the group date rose to like, to decide if I say or go, because now I feel like we got closer.
01:07:22
popculturediner
And I'm like, I really, I mean, maybe if it was like getting close to hometowns, I could see you being like weighing it, but you don't see the chance.
01:07:26
Steve
not Mm hmm.
01:07:31
popculturediner
So I don't really, but whatever.
Jen's Romantic Focus Advice
01:07:34
popculturediner
um
01:07:34
Steve
Yeah.
01:07:35
popculturediner
So then okay, then Jeremy has some time with Jenny talks about feeling comfortable with her. I do feel like they have a very cozy dynamic That's nice. And again, he seems nice normal good fine Focus on guys like that.
01:07:46
Steve
Yeah.
01:07:48
popculturediner
Stop, you know, you've got at least four of them that are like very stable and normal and
01:07:48
Steve
Sure.
01:07:54
Steve
Yeah, which is what.
01:07:55
popculturediner
Just, you've got Jeremy, you've got Spencer, you've got Jonathan, you've got Dylan.
01:07:56
Steve
what ah
01:08:00
popculturediner
I think they're all like good choices.
01:08:03
Steve
Mm hmm.
01:08:03
popculturediner
Don't focus on these men who are just like getting into petty arguments with one another. It's just, they're exhausting and they're gonna be like weird jealous. Like, ugh, don't. Anyway, then Hakim has like a very sweet moment. And this is why, I mean, I think it was a good paradise audition. Uh, cause we finally get like a little bit more of his like backstory, you
Hakeem's Sincere Moment
01:08:24
popculturediner
know, and he's like, I just really like want you to feel safe around me.
01:08:24
Steve
Yeah.
01:08:27
popculturediner
You know, like I came from a toxic family dynamic and like, I don't want to perpetuate that. And Jen identifies with that because she came from that too. And, and they just really connected on that. And I think that's enough. That's like enough of an intro to get him on paradise, besides like him just being good comic relief and like, he'll be, he'll be good there.
01:08:45
popculturediner
Um, she talks to Austin. I don't really have a lot of notes for this, except that like her lipstick was kind of smeared off by the time she talked to Austin. And I was like, makeup, get in there.
01:08:45
Steve
Yeah.
01:08:56
Steve
No, just.
01:08:57
popculturediner
I was just like, okay. She was just like, Oh, okay. So anyway. Um, yeah.
01:09:02
Steve
Which is funny too, because when makeup's not touching enough, like that's got to be basically ah most of her onto camera time, right?
01:09:09
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:09:09
Steve
Like just makeup smudged everywhere from just constant making out with people.
01:09:14
popculturediner
smoosh in. Yeah, I was just like, it was just really obvious for some reason in this scene. And I was just like, all her lipstick got kissed up.
01:09:18
Steve
I don't know why.
01:09:21
popculturediner
So and then I was like, Okay, I'm sure Jeremy's gonna get the rose because who else is gonna get it and then he got it. um And then we get to the cocktail
Aaron's Suspicious Departure
01:09:30
popculturediner
party. And of course, Aaron ducks out at this point, because like, if you didn't, yeah, I would just be like, well, you're even faker than I thought. You you know what I mean? like If he was like, well, I'm going to stay, then I'd be like, then either the your lifelong dream isn't that important to you and that kind of sucks, or like the call isn't real or something. You know what I mean?
01:09:51
popculturediner
I would just be like, that's at least I can have some respect for you for leaving.
01:09:52
Steve
Yeah.
01:09:56
popculturediner
But here's the thing that's wild. And this is another reason. Yeah, industry plant, production plant. Because before he leaves, he goes, Well, some of the men um here aren't like being straight with you, you know, whatever. And she and because because what was it because she was like, you think they're here for the wrong reasons? Or what were the two options she gave? I'm trying to remember.
01:10:16
Steve
Oh, or they're they're not ready yet, which is the other ism they you like this is the the thing that they they always use in the show.
01:10:18
popculturediner
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Are they not ready yet? Yeah.
01:10:23
Steve
It's like someone so it's not ready to love.
01:10:24
popculturediner
So it's like, yeah, are they not ready yet? Or are they here for the wrong reasons? And he's like, well, both.
01:10:28
Steve
He doesn't know because yeah, and then he says both because the answer is he just said that this I hate this because
01:10:33
popculturediner
He's making it up. He's making it up.
01:10:34
Steve
He's totally making it up. I mean, and he's not wrong, like there are trash people here, but instead of like being specific if he thinks that's important, like he's trying to do this as like ah like a bro move or something, but this would be like your doctor comes to you, he's like, oh, unfortunately I'm retiring, ah but you know we'll make sure we we get you you know in with a new general practitioner, blah, blah, blah.
01:10:35
popculturediner
Yeah. He's still full of shit. Sure.
01:10:55
Steve
And then he's walking out the door, he goes, by the way, I think you might have cancer. Like, what?
01:10:58
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:10:59
Steve
You can't do that and then walk into the sunset?
01:10:59
popculturediner
Okay.
01:11:03
popculturediner
Yeah, there's OK, so this is like a whatever. I don't know what this article or what this newspaper is or publication is. It's probably crap, but whatever. um I'm looking at something called The Daily Express, but the headline is exactly what we thought. Bachelorette's Aaron proves he was producer plant after stirring up drama. You know, because it's like, yeah, I mean, it's like the fake book. You know, like the like the the things that he was stirring up, like then this on the way out, it's just like.
01:11:34
Steve
Yeah.
01:11:36
popculturediner
There's nothing about you that's authentic, except for you're probably are going to this flight training. I believe that actually. um But it's just like.
01:11:43
Steve
Yeah.
01:11:46
popculturediner
Yeah, it's just so. so Yeah, anyway, so he said, OK, I'm just trying to see if there's any.
01:11:49
Steve
yeah If he's not doing some like Top Gun Maverick shit in the next six months, I don't believe him.
01:11:53
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:11:54
Steve
He better take a selfie from inside an F-16.
01:11:57
popculturediner
Yeah, and Jen even said, I miss this part for some reason. I don't know what I was doing. She said that she felt it was a disingenuous conversation. And it was cruel that Aaron didn't tell her who specifically he thought had bad intentions. But this was really interesting. So she comes out of that, even though it was kind of you know whatever, um
01:12:18
popculturediner
then she comes out and she's just like, listen.
Marcus and Jen's Tense Conversation
01:12:22
popculturediner
Aaron just said, you know, some people are here for the wrong reasons and some people aren't ready. And I'm going to find out who I want to talk to every single one of you. Marcus, come with me. And then I'm like, oh, my God, that would make me poop myself. um And then she talked to Marcus and she was like, she was like ah Marcus, did that scare you when I when i ah pulled you back and and asked you like to talk to me? And he was like, that put the fear of God in me. I did not like that one bit. you know And I was like, that's, I think, the way that you should react.
01:12:58
popculturediner
Um, but then, uh, then she talks to Sam and asks about like, were you, you know, were you scared about that? Um, and he was like, uh, not really. So I'm going to reiterate this in case something is weird in this recording. But basically um we froze. So Jen said, listen, everybody, I know some of you are not here for the right reasons and I'm going to find out who Marcus come with me. And then she asked him like, oh, hey, Marcus, like, were you scared when I said that? And he was like, yeah, that put the fear of God in me. I did not like that one day. And I was like, ah that actually kind of endeared me to Marcus. I got to be honest. He was like, yeah, that was like really scary and not like he's like, even though because like this is me. You know, cause he was like, even though I know I didn't do anything wrong, I was still scared. And I'm like, that's just me going through customs every time. I'm like, what if I accidentally forgot that I have a bunch of illegal shit? Even though I don't do anything like that, you know, and I was just like, Oh, yeah.
Sam's Confidence Controversy
01:14:04
popculturediner
But maybe I am also bad. Yeah, yeah. So like, I totally get that. I'm like, I, that is the energy that I identify with Marcus. I was like, I felt like I was in trouble. And I was just watching the show. I was like, I'm sorry, I don't think I'm here for the right reasons, Jen. I'll go. um But that's like the difference.
01:14:27
popculturediner
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And she's like, no, go.
01:14:30
popculturediner
You're just as bad as what's his name, Brendan. What's what's his name? Anyway, ah don't talk about it on the show. That's not allowed. to So, um yeah, that was that was fun. And then but then she talked to Sam and she said like ginger chat hanks.
01:14:44
popculturediner
And she goes, um you know, were you scared? And he was like, no.
01:14:48
popculturediner
because I knew it wasn't about me." And I'm like, that's the wrong answer. That's the wrong answer. Marcus gave the right answer and was like, yeah, I was scared. like I didn't think I did anything wrong, but then I was like, did I do something wrong?
01:15:00
popculturediner
And I was like, that's the right answer, 100%. And then Sam was like, I'm not worried at all because like I know I'm perfect. And I was like, ew, ew. Ugh, he's so gross. He's so gross. Like he's one of those men who's like, I was written by a woman. And and every woman is like, no, you were not. No, you were not. I didn't write you.
01:15:24
popculturediner
You better stop. um So yeah, so that was that was interesting. So those those were kind of my biggest takeaways from like that whole thing. And she's probably going to keep trying to pin it down. um If there is, I mean, I don't think he was speaking about anybody specifically.
Rose Ceremony Exits
01:15:43
popculturediner
I do think he was a producer plant. Yeah, yeah.
01:15:48
popculturediner
I think he's bullshit. But yeah, the biggest thing about the rose ceremony is that Hakeem goes home and then some other guy and I forgot his name.
01:15:56
popculturediner
Was that the other Thomas? Was that him that guy sent home?
01:16:02
popculturediner
Who was his name? Who went home?
01:16:08
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:16:15
popculturediner
Right.
01:16:16
popculturediner
Other Thomas, right?
01:16:19
popculturediner
Yeah, I was right.
01:16:22
popculturediner
I was literally like, who is that guy?
01:16:27
popculturediner
Yeah, I looked at him and I went, who is that guy? I don't remember him. And but then I was like, oh, I keeps going home.
01:16:35
popculturediner
That's sad. Don't know that other guy. And but we're just about to get to the week.
01:16:40
popculturediner
Next week will be the week where we know everybody who goes home. um But that we are still in that week where it's like, oh, sorry to you. I'm sorry.
01:16:49
popculturediner
I'm sorry to you, sir. Whoever you are.
01:16:53
popculturediner
I'm sure you're I'm sure you're a nice or whatever, but couldn't be bothered to learn your name.
01:16:59
popculturediner
um Yeah.
01:17:05
popculturediner
Yeah. Yeah. I just, I am, so i I think the Love Virgin is just here because producers want him here for a
Sam's Producer Preference Speculation
01:17:13
popculturediner
little bit more. I, I don't think that Jen is all that interested in him being here, but he's here.
01:17:21
popculturediner
He's here. Yeah. So, um, what are any predictions for next week based on like the trailer, anything you're, you're thinking might happen?
01:17:44
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:17:49
popculturediner
Come back. Yeah. I'm on break from training.
01:17:54
popculturediner
I don't think so.
01:18:04
popculturediner
I don't know. He's 29. OK.
01:18:18
popculturediner
Oh my god.
01:18:20
popculturediner
I'm just glad that we all dislike him because I wanted to dislike him just because he was Noah's brother and now I have real reasons.
Aaron's Authenticity Doubts
01:18:30
popculturediner
Yeah, it's the best.
01:18:38
popculturediner
I mean, I'm not going to doubt that part necessarily could be.
01:18:44
popculturediner
But who knows?
01:18:45
popculturediner
Who knows?
01:18:46
popculturediner
You know, who knows? I also just spent so the two things I well, I'm trying to finish misery.
01:18:52
popculturediner
Finally, I've been like reading a lot. So I'm trying to finish misery finally.
01:18:57
popculturediner
um So I was like, that was like the physical book I brought. And then I brought an I listened to an audio book, just whatever it's called, just for the summer.
01:19:05
popculturediner
And then um I've also been reading some nonfiction stuff, but that's boring.
01:19:10
popculturediner
You don't care about that.
01:19:11
popculturediner
um But I one of the things I listened to at the beginning of my trip was like an eight part podcast called Scamanda.
01:19:17
popculturediner
I don't think I talked about it last week because I think I started listening to it after. Yeah, I think I started listening to it while I was on
Cancer Scam Podcast Discussion
01:19:23
popculturediner
the road. um But it's all about this. so See, you're getting so many bonuses this week. Aren't you lucky? ah This is what happens when I go on a trip and then my brain refreshes and then it just gets filled with all this interesting stuff. So it's about this woman who like pretended to have cancer like six times I don't even know like a ton of times it was like I have cancer and it's stage four and then we'd be like I'm in remission it's a miracle and it's like amazing and then she'd be like I have cancer again and it's terminal this time I'm in remission again and you're like how many times you can't do that that many times that's like not how it's not how your body works you know that's not how cancer works I don't know what you're doing yeah
01:20:02
popculturediner
At one point she said ah she said um that her she was having a baby and that reversed the cancer. Never heard of that. Never heard of that.
01:20:18
popculturediner
Yeah. And she was like, and she was like taking, she was like taking selfies at like hospitals and stuff in front of oncology centers and stuff. But then there were people who did like cross-referencing with like the scrubs she had on and the hospital she said she was in and they would call and they would say, do you have this color scrubs?
01:20:34
popculturediner
And they'd say no.
01:20:35
popculturediner
And like, okay.
01:20:36
popculturediner
I mean, just totally, totally wild stuff. But it was like this whole performance. And she was doing it for a really long time. I mean, there are there are ah accounts that she was doing it like back in college, even.
01:20:51
popculturediner
And like, and and this was like into adulthood, this was at least like a decade or more of like scams and whatever.
01:20:58
popculturediner
And she made up like all this stuff, like, you know, things that she did, things she had, whatever. So what I'm saying is, you know, people like that exist. People like that exist and there's a wide array, a wide spectrum of things people can lie about. And you know i'm I'm the kind of person and you know this but who's very who's honest to a fault. And even I just go, well, I can't tell you everything about me and what I do because it'll sound like I'm lying if I say it all.
01:21:28
popculturediner
So like I'm very sensitive to that. I'm like, I'm not going to share all the things that I do because it just sounds like I'm making it up if I share everything. um But there are people who just straight make up their whole lives. so Everything is ah completely manufactured.
Fabricated Life Stories Discussion
01:21:42
popculturediner
So, you know, where's the line with Aaron? We just don't know. We just don't know.
01:21:51
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:21:53
popculturediner
The book is definitely fake.
01:22:02
popculturediner
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, Stolen valor? Stolen valor? Yeah, no, just kidding. No, i i I believe that part. I believe that part. um I don't believe the book.
01:22:20
popculturediner
Yeah, that would be pretty wild.
01:22:23
popculturediner
um Oh, yeah, so he had a post that says for the while the show is so scripted crowd phase one of the plan is in motion introducing for the first time second lieutenant herb next stop Air Force pilot training.
01:22:38
popculturediner
um
01:22:43
popculturediner
I mean, you know, it's it's whatever.
01:22:46
popculturediner
Um,
01:22:48
popculturediner
Oh yeah. And then, yeah, but someone said, someone said in the comments, Dr.
01:22:53
popculturediner
Brandon O'Connor, which was the name of that fake author. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and then someone said, Oh, I thought I recognized Maxwell in a previous post, but just wondering why you referred to OTS as fighter pilot training on the show. You haven't even completed UPT yet. Will you be at SPS? i I don't know any of those acronyms, but I'm Jessica Scott is coming for you. Um, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then someone said, so he's confirming it's scripted and he was a plant all along.
01:23:29
popculturediner
Well, I'm done with this season.
01:23:30
popculturediner
Congratulations on the next step of your career. Oh, one the one Aaron fan is done watching the show.
01:23:39
popculturediner
Oh, my God. Yeah. um Yeah, that's interesting.
01:23:45
popculturediner
I was impressed by you handling yourself with Jen. I don't know what that means. You're going to make a great pilot.
01:23:50
popculturediner
um Yeah, I don't know.
01:23:53
popculturediner
We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. I don't. Yeah, I don't doubt that part. I just doubt like everything else.
01:24:11
popculturediner
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:24:13
popculturediner
um Someone said air adventures, and I feel like it's fun to say things like air ventures. Come on now. um Anyway, so that's that's all I got. Yeah, I'm not really sure what's going to happen in the weeks to come. ah I have a feeling that Devin is going to stick around.
01:24:29
popculturediner
I don't think he's gone anywhere.
01:24:31
popculturediner
um I think.
01:24:34
popculturediner
I don't think Sam's going to go anywhere either, though, so I think she think it's going to be a really tense season.
01:24:40
popculturediner
Yeah.
01:24:45
popculturediner
hometowns
01:24:45
popculturediner
hometowns. Mm hmm. Oh, a Devin Sam hometown would be. Oh, I love it. i I dread two on ones most of the time, like I don't like watching him most of the time.
01:25:01
popculturediner
I'd watch the shit out of that.
01:25:04
popculturediner
Oh, yeah.
01:25:09
popculturediner
Yeah, and it's a win lose all around.
01:25:13
popculturediner
Well,
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01:25:30
popculturediner
I know it's confusing, but Rose Play Special is actually like a segment of Pop Culture Diner that just became very huge. Maybe we'll change the name someday.
01:25:37
popculturediner
Maybe I'm just lazy. Maybe I have other concepts of things that I want to cover in the near future, so I'm saving it for now.
01:25:48
popculturediner
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01:26:17
popculturediner
So make sure you do those things. And if you did not get to like some kind of fair yet, what are you even doing? It's summer. OK, get outside, eat something on a stick, ah but wear sunscreen.
01:26:37
popculturediner
Well, it's the time of year that you should eat things on sticks.
01:26:45
popculturediner
I was thinking, you know, like potatoes, something front paid, not like a grub.
01:26:57
popculturediner
Yeah, you know, like those spiral ones, you know what I'm talking about?
01:27:00
popculturediner
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Yep. Okay.