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Rose Plate Special: Bachelorette Jenn - Episode 5
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Look at that, we're back with another episode so quickly! While this week wasn't the most eventful, it does show very clearly who's in the front of the pack. We talk about Jenn's obsession with flying (obviously), Sammi's slightly criminal past, and Jenn's toxic ex-boyfriend. Who will make it to hometowns? We place our predictions at the end.
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Transcript
Introduction and Apologies
00:00:19
Steve
Oh, hello.
00:00:19
popculturediner
Hello.
00:00:22
popculturediner
I'm Sami.
00:00:23
Steve
And I'm Steve.
00:00:24
popculturediner
And you're listening to Rose Plate Special or watching ah the most dramatic, wackist, hot-tubbingist, Matthew-ingist recap podcasts of The Bachelorette ever.
00:00:38
Steve
Ever.
00:00:40
popculturediner
Could Austin say wack more times than this episode?
00:00:42
Steve
No, things have never been more whack.
00:00:43
popculturediner
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure. I was like, we get it. You think it's whack. I understand.
00:00:50
Steve
It is, I mean, it's it' pretty whack.
00:00:52
popculturediner
Yeah, it was whack.
00:00:52
Steve
It's whack.
00:00:53
popculturediner
It was whack math or not Matthew Austin. We'll talk about Matthew. um Yeah. So first of all, apologies, everybody, because we just got the last episode out like yesterday. And half of that was my fault.
00:01:05
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:01:08
popculturediner
A third of it was my fault. A third of it was Steve's fault. And a third of it was our recording services fault. It was like the perfect storm of lost internet connections where I was like, you know what's weird? Okay.
Technical Difficulties with Zencaster
00:01:21
popculturediner
this I'm going to give you a peek behind the curtain. So the tool we use is called Zencaster. You've probably seen the watermark in one or two videos. And um it's a great. I mean, it's great. I have no complaints. We've been using it for like five years. But um one of the things that's weird is we've just started doing more videos.
00:01:39
popculturediner
And when one of our connection drops we still brain maintain the recording cuz we've got two tracks going so there's like your long periods there may still be one in there i don't know like i'm gonna watch an hour and a half you have to watch an hour and a half.
00:01:45
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:01:53
popculturediner
um But there were long periods in there where it's like you were still going but i lost you and so there was there was like footage of me like.
00:01:58
Steve
Oh, no.
00:02:02
popculturediner
look looking like I'm mad at what you're saying, but I'm literally going, where did he go? Like, you know, and I'm not saying anything.
00:02:07
Steve
but You just, like, pissed off at me. yeah
00:02:09
popculturediner
Yeah. And it just looks like I'm mad about you complaining about like time machines. So that wasn't the case. ah But we tried to edit it and get it as neat as we can for you.
00:02:16
Steve
Yeah.
00:02:20
popculturediner
And then for some reason, I couldn't get it to publish.
00:02:22
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:02:24
popculturediner
So um but thank you, Sendcaster support for being so nice and giving me some tips for Apparently, like, it's kind of like, you know, sometimes you just have to like punch the vending machine a little. It was kind of like that. He was like, sometimes you just have to have it open in multiple tabs and it'll work. And I'm like, OK.
00:02:39
Steve
No, there you go. And um we're not going to have this problem again because i I'm on a different internet thing.
00:02:41
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:02:43
popculturediner
No, it's going to be great.
00:02:46
Steve
We're good. We're fine.
00:02:47
popculturediner
The funny thing is you would have no idea that it was even happening.
00:02:47
Steve
Everything's great.
00:02:50
popculturediner
But now I told you so now you know.
Steve's Podcast Critique
00:02:52
Steve
Now you know.
00:02:53
popculturediner
So so but ah you know, I figure you like to have a peek behind the curtain and ah let's let's talk about another thing before we keep rolling. And that's I finally listened or tried to listen, let's be honest, to Sam and podcast and.
00:03:04
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:03:09
Steve
And how was that?
00:03:10
popculturediner
I couldn't get through five minutes.
00:03:12
Steve
but No.
00:03:13
popculturediner
texted you I was and that's when I stopped I was literally like this is the worst thing I've ever listened to and It needs to stop and I need I need to get it gone. Let me just like give you a preview. It was very much He mentioned being a serial entrepreneur um cryptocurrency
00:03:30
Steve
Ooh.
00:03:35
popculturediner
and something related to manifestation or like mindset in the first five minutes.
00:03:43
Steve
So he hit all the buzzwords on the bingo card.
00:03:45
popculturediner
I just couldn't do it. I was like, I can't listen to more.
00:03:47
Steve
Wow.
00:03:48
popculturediner
I mean, it just was so manufactured. It was so, yeah, tech bro.
00:03:54
Steve
You think he's going to manifest himself a um personality or is that not possible?
00:03:59
popculturediner
I mean, if but if manifestation was real, don't you think you would have done it by now?
00:04:04
Steve
Yeah, I think so.
00:04:05
popculturediner
If manifestation was real, don't you think he would have won the bachelorette?
00:04:11
Steve
Mm-hmm. Didn't manifest hard enough.
00:04:12
popculturediner
Let's just let's put our thinking caps on. um Yeah, it was just so bad. And then and then knowing that the co-host was like even worse because he was like talking about like converting him in the comments.
00:04:22
Steve
and Oh, God.
00:04:26
popculturediner
Remember I told you remember that?
00:04:27
Steve
Oh, yep, yes, yes, yes.
00:04:28
popculturediner
Yeah, it was something like, is he a Christian?
00:04:29
Steve
It's all coming back to me.
00:04:30
popculturediner
And he was like, no, but hopefully soon. And I was like, huh? Like.
00:04:35
Steve
yeah Can't wait to get him on board.
00:04:37
popculturediner
What? Like, that's so inappropriate. I like don't even I don't even know what to say about that.
00:04:41
Steve
That's real weird stuff.
00:04:43
popculturediner
Yeah. So you didn't miss anything. And it's probably good he's gone. And maybe he'll end up on Paradise and just be weird on Paradise. But um but geez, Louise, like that podcast, I was like, this can't get worse. And then it just like kept I don't know. He just kept being like, yeah, so like, you know, block chain, blah, blah, blah. And I was like,
00:05:09
popculturediner
So that's as far as I got. So that's my report on that.
00:05:11
Steve
What do you think he would say about us? Do you think he would like our podcast? Probably not.
00:05:14
popculturediner
No, I don't think so.
00:05:15
Steve
We haven't been kind to him.
00:05:15
popculturediner
I think, I think he would say that like we're manifesting all the wrong things in our life or something like that.
00:05:20
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:05:21
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:05:22
Steve
Yeah.
00:05:22
popculturediner
But, you know, whatever. ah
00:05:25
Steve
What are you going to do?
Jen's Ex-boyfriend Drama
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popculturediner
Yeah, he's also an actor, but I also have an IMDb page, so it's fine. um So the men are really excited to be here at the cocktail party and nothing is going to go wrong and it's going to be great and it's going to be drama free. And they're so excited.
00:05:38
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:05:39
popculturediner
And how could anything go wrong? This could be the first night where nothing actually goes wrong.
00:05:44
Steve
Yeah, it'd be perfect.
00:05:44
popculturediner
And even Dylan gets to do the foreshadowing. He's like, this could be the first party with a no drama. And then And then ah first of all, ah seriously, every dress Jen wears is ridiculously good, in my opinion. I know not everyone liked the green dress or whatever.
00:06:00
Steve
Yeah.
00:06:02
popculturediner
um This floral dress.
00:06:03
Steve
Well, it helps when you're just like absurdly beautiful, like, yeah, this just works.
00:06:05
popculturediner
Yeah, she would look good in anything, but she really think I think she has really good dresses like this floral moment.
00:06:10
Steve
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:06:13
popculturediner
Wild.
00:06:13
Steve
Shout out to the stylist. Who, who is it? What a great job. I would love to interview the person who's in charge of like wardrobe on the bachelor.
00:06:18
popculturediner
I
00:06:20
Steve
Like that'd be amazing.
00:06:20
popculturediner
The looks are really, I feel like people are bringing it this year and the looks are really good. like And no one's wearing anything outwardly ridiculous in a bad way either that I can think of outside of you know Austin's hair.
00:06:31
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:06:35
popculturediner
But like everybody looks really good.
00:06:35
Steve
Yeah.
00:06:38
popculturediner
like i think I think everyone's like looking great.
00:06:41
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:06:41
popculturediner
So anyway, um so she comes out and she's like, OK, so Matthew, one of my exes came here and I just like left him on ice. And now I'm going to go talk to him right now, I guess, or whatever. And she's like, so I'll be right back.
00:06:55
Steve
Great.
00:06:57
popculturediner
And um I was surprised. I was like, yeah, that was in the morning and now they're the night. And I guess they didn't see her all day. And I don't know. I feel like something about the editing of this just feels like maybe I don't know.
00:07:05
Steve
yeah Yeah, it it feels.
00:07:12
popculturediner
It just feels like it was shot funny.
00:07:14
Steve
it It does. The whole thing feels kind of out of sequence and weird.
00:07:15
popculturediner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:18
Steve
And even the way they present it, like that they show up and they're just like, oh, what like, can you believe this guy flew all by himself?
00:07:25
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:07:26
Steve
We didn't tell him to do that. He just showed up and we're like, yeah, that's good and normal. Come on. Like the whole thing wasn't just completely orchestrated by production.
00:07:32
popculturediner
yeah
00:07:35
Steve
It was ridiculous.
00:07:36
popculturediner
Apparently, like this guy describes himself as an as a fuck
Austin's 'Whack' Reaction
00:07:40
popculturediner
boy, so.
00:07:40
Steve
Oh, well, you know.
00:07:42
popculturediner
So I mean, it's wild that he even put any initiative into this because obviously Jen did not think that this was ever serious, like at all, like for a minute.
00:07:50
Steve
No, what they dated for a few months several years ago.
00:07:52
popculturediner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:55
popculturediner
I mean, they did they did have like some major holiday and vacation looking photos, but still, yeah, like.
00:07:55
Steve
Are you kidding?
00:08:03
Steve
No.
00:08:04
popculturediner
Yeah, it's like he tried to pull this grand gesture at the last minute. And yeah, it's giving weaponizing competence. Okay, that's what it's giving. um So so then yeah, Austin is like, this is whack and corny. If he gets to stay, that's whack.
00:08:26
Steve
Yeah. Whack, yes.
00:08:27
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:08:28
Steve
Corny? I don't know if it's corny.
00:08:29
popculturediner
I don't think it's corny, but and I don't think it's wack of Jen.
00:08:30
Steve
No, I don't think he also knows what that word means.
00:08:33
popculturediner
I i think it's wack of Matthew.
00:08:34
Steve
No.
00:08:35
popculturediner
um And I also would totally get her position if she's like, well, yeah, you flew all this way.
00:08:36
Steve
Yeah.
00:08:43
popculturediner
You can stay for one date. If she kind of knew who she thought was going to go home and she felt confident in letting enough people home, then if I was her, I'd be like,
00:08:49
Steve
Yeah.
00:08:52
popculturediner
Okay, you get one last chance.
00:08:53
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:08:55
popculturediner
Let's see you top flying to New Zealand for me. And go.
00:08:58
Steve
Yeah.
00:08:59
popculturediner
And I would be like, and then you've got to plan a date for me. I'm not planning the date for you.
00:09:03
Steve
I like that.
00:09:05
popculturediner
And you tell me what our five year plan is.
00:09:09
Steve
Ooh.
00:09:09
popculturediner
See, wouldn't have that that would have been good TV.
00:09:12
Steve
That's a hard, that's a hard question to answer.
00:09:13
popculturediner
Jen just putting Matthew in the hot seat. I think that would have been good, but instead of, but yeah, so, so Sam, a couple other pieces of comments from
00:09:17
Steve
Oh, Matthew.
Critiquing Sam's Behavior
00:09:23
popculturediner
this.
00:09:23
popculturediner
Yeah. Sam was like, this boy, my blood is boiling. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure like anything makes your blood boil. I think just like women having thoughts of their own makes your blood boil.
00:09:30
Steve
Yeah.
00:09:34
popculturediner
So.
00:09:34
Steve
He was, he was, Sam was getting really into his Chet Hanks like accent thing that he does leaning into it.
00:09:40
popculturediner
Mm, I, yeah, I don't know. I don't know about all that. I just don't know about it. um Yeah, he's very much nothing like Tyler. That's all I know.
00:09:52
Steve
Yep. It's all we know.
00:09:54
popculturediner
Jen is fighting between the past and the si newness that she is experiencing here. And Devin is like ready to walk out. I don't know if he was really, I don't think he would have, but he goes, if she comes in here with him, this rose means nothing. And then here he comes. But then and then it's and then they're like, oh, and then he's like, I'm leaving. And they're like, oh, OK, that's fine and good.
00:10:19
Steve
Yeah. Which honestly was kind of funny. He just like rolls up in an ill-fitting tuxedo. He's just like, Hey guys, guess what?
00:10:25
popculturediner
I didn't get a stylist, so here I am.
00:10:28
Steve
I, I'm just going home now. Another 18 hour flight, whatever.
00:10:33
popculturediner
Oh, I hope he at least got to enjoy New Zealand a little bit, like get something out of it.
00:10:36
Steve
Yeah, I yeah. Go on vacation, dude. I mean, it's probably even better.
00:10:40
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:10:41
Steve
You don't have to bunk up with like eight other guys. Like you can just do whatever you want.
00:10:46
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:10:46
Steve
but we have Go be a fuck boy in New Zealand, dude.
00:10:48
popculturediner
Oh, my gosh, be so fun.
00:10:50
Steve
Mm-hmm
00:10:51
popculturediner
Yeah. And then, yeah, these men, well, it's Sam, especially Sam is so toxic. He's so toxic. Like he really great. Like I have a hard time watching him. I have a hard time paying attention to him because he really bothers me um and even said, yeah, yeah.
00:11:05
Steve
I can't I can't say him like he speaks in cliches and then on top of that he has the like the the the affectation the foe like yo tough guy like that shit and
00:11:14
popculturediner
Yeah, it's very weird. It's just very, it's very weird.
00:11:16
Steve
It's very weird. It's, it's, it's Jersey Shore, Chet Hanks.
00:11:18
popculturediner
If that's whacking corny.
00:11:20
Steve
Yeah. It's whack and corny is what it is.
00:11:22
popculturediner
That's whacking corny, Austin. um Anyway, yeah, he just really grinds my gears. And, um and then he says to Matthew, like, I'm glad you're being left in the past.
00:11:28
Steve
Yeah.
00:11:31
popculturediner
And I'm like, he's leaving. He's leaving.
00:11:34
Steve
yeah
00:11:34
popculturediner
Can you just?
00:11:35
Steve
That was the other thing. He was like, he was like extra mad about it. And, and Matthew was just like, Hey, you know, I swung for the fences and boy didn't work.
00:11:37
popculturediner
Yeah, I'm like,
00:11:42
popculturediner
and it didn't work and I respect Jen's decisions and I'm leaving and he's like, I'm glad you're being left in the past. I'm like, okay.
00:11:49
Steve
They're gonna be a dick about it. Sounds like he was being pretty nice.
00:11:52
popculturediner
Yeah, I just, Sam is definitely the type of guy that's like, what's on your phone? I want to see what's on your phone. Who are you talking to? You're talking to me so many?
00:12:01
Steve
What's on your phone?
00:12:01
popculturediner
Oh, who did you just,
00:12:02
Steve
It's just me watching a TikTok of a chinchilla eating a carrot.
00:12:06
popculturediner
Yeah, you just like somebody who's that who's who's yeah, it's like who's Ed and she's liking like Ed Begley Jr.
00:12:14
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:12:14
popculturediner
videos. That's just my feed. um Taking the bus to the Oscars and it's like, oh, why would you like this old man stuff?
00:12:19
Steve
Yeah.
00:12:24
popculturediner
um Yeah, so funny. Gosh, what was it the other day? Now I'm trying to remember Tuck came in and I was just and I was just like ah laughing really hard and I'm sure it was like some dog video There's some really good ones out there. I don't know if you've seen them where um Someone's doing this like Trump impression of like
Expressing Love and Eliminations
00:12:47
popculturediner
he's like, ah you know, like you can shoot my ear you can take my ear but not my liberty ah because my ears will grow back and people have been turning those into dog and videos where they pin the ears back.
00:12:52
Steve
Yeah.
00:12:57
popculturediner
And then when the ears grow back, they just spring into place. And I've watched a hundred of those probably.
00:12:59
Steve
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen this. I'm pretty good.
00:13:03
popculturediner
They're very funny. So yeah, that's what's on my phone. This was on my phone right now. It's just dogs with their ears growing back.
00:13:08
Steve
Yeah, well, Sam wants to take a look at it because are you are you?
00:13:08
popculturediner
Um, yeah, he wants.
00:13:13
Steve
Yo, yo, are you talking to that dog, Sammy?
00:13:16
popculturediner
Yeah, I am.
00:13:16
Steve
Because that's.
00:13:17
popculturediner
Yeah. Me and that Sheila are getting pretty serious.
00:13:18
Steve
Yeah.
00:13:20
Steve
Yeah, well, you better Shiba yourself to the door.
00:13:21
popculturediner
So,
00:13:25
popculturediner
He knew. um So ah Jen is experiencing an emotional roller coaster.
00:13:31
Steve
Hmm.
00:13:32
popculturediner
And Matt did say he was in love with her. And Jen has amnesia or just very selective hearing because she also again says that's the first time someone says it to me. And I'm like, I don't I feel like people are saying these kinds of things to you.
00:13:44
Steve
people People are saying it.
00:13:45
popculturediner
But someone did say, fuck but but here's the thing.
00:13:45
Steve
They're saying it more and more.
00:13:47
popculturediner
Some people, Devin said falling in love. He didn't say in love.
00:13:51
Steve
Mm-hmm I think he said I think he said he's starting to fall in love Okay Mm
00:13:51
popculturediner
But I think but I think the love virgin did say in love. He didn't say, I don't think he said falling in love, but she's just completely. Oh, starting to fall. Okay. So, okay. Wait, we do need to diagram. I'm going to write this down right now. Let's, let's discuss this. Let's discuss the stages, right? So there's, so there's like, there's usually like, I like you or like, I have a little crush on you. Like people will say that kind of stuff, right?
00:14:17
Steve
-hmm Yeah
00:14:18
popculturediner
Like, um, yeah. Uh, okay. Oh, by the way, I got a new mechanical keyboard and so now I feel better than everybody else. Um, and then, yeah, well, mine is creamy.
00:14:26
Steve
Whoa, you're so clicky clacky.
00:14:30
popculturediner
Mine has a creamy sound.
00:14:31
Steve
oh
00:14:32
popculturediner
Uh, starting to fall in love.
00:14:33
Steve
I'm a gamer. Sorry.
00:14:35
popculturediner
Um, have, or, well, yeah, there's like, I have feelings for you or like starting to have feelings for you.
00:14:35
Steve
i Yeah. Yep.
00:14:42
popculturediner
Uh, yeah.
00:14:44
Steve
Yeah. So it's like, I like you slash I have a crush.
00:14:47
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:14:47
Steve
That's pretty innocuous. And then it's, It's, I'm starting to have feelings for you.
00:14:51
popculturediner
I've wanted to do this for a long time.
00:14:54
Steve
i'm I'm, you know, I have feelings for you.
00:14:56
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:14:56
Steve
I'm starting to fall in love with you.
00:14:58
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:14:58
Steve
I'm falling in love with you slash falling for you, falling without the in love.
00:14:59
popculturediner
Falling in love.
00:15:03
Steve
It's still implied.
00:15:05
popculturediner
Uh huh.
00:15:06
Steve
And then, and then we're in love after that.
00:15:06
popculturediner
In love. And then love.
00:15:10
Steve
And then love.
00:15:10
popculturediner
And then is there another one?
00:15:12
Steve
No, I think, I think that's it.
00:15:13
popculturediner
after that.
00:15:14
Steve
I think that's it.
00:15:14
popculturediner
Okay. Okay.
00:15:16
Steve
Pretty sure we got it.
00:15:17
popculturediner
I think I think that's good. um Email us at pop culture diner at gmail dot.com if we missed any and I will add it to the diagram. ah But I'm going to get like I'm going to put a diagram together because I'm like it's so it's so funny.
00:15:28
Steve
I love it like you just like a holding up the poster boards like currently debit is here Oh,
00:15:31
popculturediner
This is where, yeah, oh my God, oh my God. This is a fun idea for next season is get one of those, you know, like, what is it? Like a, yeah like the felt, you know, like the felt boards.
00:15:42
Steve
oh and we like move them along like they're little Yeah, they're little heads.
00:15:43
popculturediner
Yes. And we have like their little heads.
00:15:47
Steve
Okay. We yeah, we need to do this now Mm
00:15:49
popculturediner
Okay. Okay. I will definitely do that. Okay. Arts and crafts time.
00:15:53
Steve
-hmm
00:15:53
popculturediner
OK, that sounds very, very fun. So there we go. So I just had I had to pin that down because we talk about it all the time and I'm like, wait, who said what? And we are going to we're going to document it.
00:16:02
Steve
Yeah Mm
00:16:03
popculturediner
So any time one of those changes, we will move the head on the board and I'll be like, let's consult.
00:16:07
Steve
-hmm
00:16:10
popculturediner
um So, OK, so that was a big deal to her that he said in love. But again, it was too little too late. um So it's time to give out the roses, which go to Grant, Jeremy, Jonathan, Spencer, Dylan and Austin. So Thomas n and John are gone. um I think that makes perfect sense.
00:16:32
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:16:32
popculturediner
I I know Thomas and was kind of riding on the were first generation Americans. We have similar backgrounds. But I think he focused too much on the drama in the house and not enough on Jen and just kind of thought he could coast and it didn't work.
00:16:45
Steve
Yep.
00:16:50
popculturediner
So I wasn't shocked.
00:16:51
Steve
Yeah. Well, I mean, it worked for three or four episodes.
00:16:52
popculturediner
Well, a little while. Yeah. But I just I wasn't really seeing it between the two of them like they didn't seem to have chemistry.
00:16:59
Steve
No.
00:17:00
popculturediner
So I didn't think it was going to make it past then anyway. And John, I mean, he seems really nice, but he just has gotten like no air time like every once in a while he pops up.
00:17:08
Steve
Oh, none at all.
00:17:10
popculturediner
It's like, and I'm still here. And you're like, oh, yeah, John, I forgot about you kind of. And so, yeah.
00:17:14
Steve
Yeah. He, but yeah. And again, he seems great and it's going to be funny cause I guarantee you in like two years, he's going to pop up on paradise and I'll be like, who the hell's that?
00:17:17
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:17:23
Steve
And you'll be like, Steve, remember he was nice.
00:17:24
popculturediner
And they'll be like, remember, it was John.
00:17:25
Steve
but We didn't see him.
00:17:26
popculturediner
We liked him, but we just didn't see him ever.
00:17:29
Steve
Yeah.
00:17:29
popculturediner
um Yeah, I could have predicted this.
00:17:30
Steve
Perfect.
00:17:31
popculturediner
ah Yeah. And it just it just makes so much sense. ah So we get to the next day. So it wasn't like that shocking of a of a finale, but.
Repetitive Dating Scenarios
00:17:41
popculturediner
good try having a cliffhanger.
00:17:44
Steve
No.
00:17:45
popculturediner
So, okay. So we get to the next day. Jesse ah is being a good host. I just feel like I need to make notes of when Jesse's being a good host. Cause they're in Auckland and he's like, did you know that Auckland is a really big coffee city? And this is me just in case things don't work out with this. I always try to show how worldly I am so that I can host a travel show in the future.
00:18:06
Steve
yeah
00:18:06
popculturediner
So did you know that Auckland has a really big coffee culture? um And so they're kind of starting the day and we find out that Jonathan is going to get the one on one, which was one of the things I predicted last week, I believe I said, but I did get one of them wrong, but I got this one right.
00:18:19
Steve
Ooh, you did. You did. Oh, move over reality, Steve. It's time for reality Sammy.
00:18:30
popculturediner
Yeah, i just did I just don't talk to anybody who actually knows anything. I just make educated guesses.
00:18:36
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:18:37
popculturediner
So here's the weird thing. Can they just cool it with all the flights? What's going on? Why is Jen just always in the air?
00:18:47
Steve
i dont I don't know.
00:18:47
popculturediner
it's just It doesn't seem like...
00:18:48
Steve
What is this? she's She's got to have like a size five shoe and yet her carbon footprint is massive.
00:18:55
popculturediner
Yes, what is she trying to be like Taylor Swift? What's going on here except Taylor Swift has a bigger shoe size and much higher net worth. And she takes 30 minute plane rides. um So, yeah, this was just so weird. And like and Jonathan was like, I don't want it to be a hot air balloon. And then I was like, well, then it's going to be. And that was kind of sad when it was a helicopter.
00:19:14
Steve
Hmm.
00:19:14
popculturediner
um
Vineyard Date with Jen and Jonathan
00:19:15
popculturediner
And even Jonathan was like, I don't know what it what it is with you and heights, but OK, I will go. And he's like, I'm going to make her feel really needed because he's not OK with going up into this helicopter.
00:19:28
Steve
Yeah, but also it's like how many, this is her second helicopter date?
00:19:29
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:19:34
popculturediner
This is her second helicopter date. And like you mentioned, she jumped out of a plane, she jumped off a building and she's already been in the helicopter and now she's in a helicopter again.
00:19:39
Steve
And jumped off a building.
00:19:44
Steve
So this has been all four of her dates have been like, I'm up high, scary, okay.
00:19:46
popculturediner
Yeah. Yeah. To be fair, in New Zealand, I assume flying is one of the fastest ways to get to certain places.
00:19:55
Steve
Sure, sure.
00:19:55
popculturediner
So I understand being in New Zealand, it's like, yeah, I get that. So I would assume that that's part of it. um And they do go to a vineyard, and that's very fun. um And but the funny thing was, Jonathan was like, I knew it. And I'm like, how? Like, I feel like there was something that got cut out in the in like filming that would make it understandable that he knew they were going to a vineyard because I don't think he said anything and also the date card didn't make it clear that they were going to a vineyard at all.
00:20:15
Steve
Mm-hmm Yeah No,
00:20:27
popculturediner
So it was just
00:20:27
Steve
I wonder which vineyard it like ah what who they make wine for is it yellowtail I hope so.
00:20:33
popculturediner
No, that's Australian.
00:20:35
Steve
Oh You're right, you're right now the New Zealand now all the Kiwis they're gonna come for me.
00:20:35
popculturediner
See, now now New Zealanders are gonna come for you. All the Kiwis are gonna, yeah, they go down your throat. But yeah, so anyway, ah there they're doing you know goofy stuff in the vineyards, like throwing grapes.
00:20:44
Steve
Oh
00:20:46
popculturediner
And then Jen says, watch what I can do with my mouth. And I was like...
00:20:51
popculturediner
Okay, Jen. ah Anyway, so they're silly and you know, silly always has potential on the show.
00:20:56
Steve
Mm-hmm
00:20:56
popculturediner
You can't discount the silly relationships. They can last very long on the show and go all the way. um But you do need to have the romance, too. And then we see that they shipped the hot tub all the way to Auckland or they just found one but i'm just I'm just in my mind going, this is the same hot tub forever, because it looks exactly the same.
00:21:10
Steve
It's one tub one tub forever. Yeah Mm
00:21:16
popculturediner
um So ah yeah, so Jonathan was like, I don't know, like it's friendly, but is it just friends or is it like serious? you know So like let let's try to get serious and vulnerable.
00:21:24
Steve
-hmm
Ferocious Love Debate
00:21:28
Steve
Yeah. And Jen says, I just feel like I can be my authentic true self around you. Which is a nice thing to say.
00:21:34
popculturediner
Yes, that is nice. Well, I think he's a really I think he's one of the nicest guys on the show, if not the nicest.
00:21:39
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:21:40
popculturediner
I think he's like the most ah rational pick at this point. But but she wants a ferocious love.
00:21:48
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:21:48
popculturediner
So she's going to be rational. And Jonathan's even like, I got to make sure that I can give her a ferocious love.
00:21:53
Steve
Hmm. Yeah.
00:21:53
popculturediner
And I'm like.
00:21:54
Steve
What's the ferocity level? We, again, we keep saying this.
00:21:56
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:21:57
Steve
No one has clearly defined what the ferocious love is. If if I'm going to, if I'm going to say the one thing I need from a relationship is an abstract concept, which I have not defined, like that's bullshit.
00:22:01
popculturediner
Right.
00:22:08
Steve
You got, you got to lay it out there.
00:22:09
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:22:10
Steve
what What does ferocious love really mean?
00:22:12
popculturediner
Oh my God.
00:22:12
Steve
Chen.
00:22:12
popculturediner
I don't know why I just teleported to this, but did you ever watch the television show misadvised?
00:22:20
Steve
No, I have no idea what
Dating Advice Tangent
00:22:21
Steve
that is.
00:22:21
popculturediner
Okay, it was a one season, no, it was a one season Bravo show.
00:22:22
Steve
You made it up.
00:22:25
Steve
and Okay.
00:22:27
popculturediner
but Believe me, it opened my world to a whole host of things. I had no, I mean, and it's the rabbit hole is so deep, it would take years to discuss. So we're not gonna get into all that, but it was three people who like kind of did dating advice things, but had sucky dating lives themselves.
00:22:36
Steve
Whoa.
00:22:46
Steve
Oh.
00:22:46
popculturediner
So one of them was like a sex columnist. The other one was like a matchmaker. And then the third ah said that she was a dating columnist. But um she's.
00:22:54
Steve
This is real sex in the city.
00:22:56
popculturediner
Yeah, but she's more well known from like her days ah pursuing tech bros and getting getting into like a lot of Gawker articles. um Yes.
00:23:07
Steve
oo
00:23:08
popculturediner
And ah her name is Julia Allison. And maybe we talked about her at one point. I did write a paper about her in grad school, kind of. um and And she had a 73 point dating checklist. So it was like, if I'm gonna be with you, you have to, or maybe it was 72, I don't know. It was in the 70s. It was like, you gotta meet every single item on this checklist for me to like wanna be with you.
00:23:36
Steve
Whoa.
00:23:37
popculturediner
um
Toxic Relationships Discussion
00:23:38
popculturediner
Yeah, so so that's like the other end of the spectrum. And Jen's just like, I want a ferocious love. And here's like, I would say Marcus and Jonathan are the two most like stable, put together guys on the show.
00:23:49
Steve
Yeah.
00:23:53
popculturediner
And and I think, you know, she's interested in both of them, but I think she's also kind of like, I want something a little more tumultuous than that.
00:24:03
Steve
yeah
00:24:03
popculturediner
And, you know, when Sam talks about like reckless love, I'm like, oh, that just feels like a red flag to me.
00:24:09
Steve
Yeah.
00:24:10
popculturediner
I don't know.
00:24:11
Steve
Well, he's he is a giant red flag. He's also dumb, so I don't think he knows what that word means either.
00:24:16
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:24:17
Steve
ah But yeah, I don't know. I mean, this is part of her like kind of bridging that gap, I think, because she talked about like the toxic relationship she's been in in the past. And I think like there's some people out there who truly associate like a strong, loving bond with that just extreme levels of emotion, which can include things that are unhealthy.
00:24:41
popculturediner
Yeah, yeah, no kidding. Yeah, it's just like, oh, yeah.
00:24:42
Steve
And it's like, that's not good. like do
00:24:46
popculturediner
And I mean, you know, it's like so Jonathan opens up about his past. And I thought that was really interesting where he's like, I was kind of a hopeless romantic and I got into this relationship and, you know, and then, you know, being with someone who is like obviously going through it and like self medicating and like blaming him for certain things. And, you know, you know, there's, you know, three sides to every story. Right. But um I mean, yeah, I I think I felt like his sharing of his story was authentic.
00:25:21
Steve
he Yeah.
00:25:21
popculturediner
It felt authentic and and also felt like he was like trying to reflect on where might I have gone wrong, even though it's like sometimes you know people are going through it and you can't pull them out of it. you There's nothing you can do to change it. There's nothing you can do to save it.
00:25:35
Steve
Yeah.
00:25:36
popculturediner
um And I think i i I don't know, I believe him when he speaks and, you know, he's like, it destroyed me to my core.
00:25:39
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:25:44
popculturediner
um It's just interesting. I was reflecting on this with like Devin and Sam as well. But I think Jonathan and Sam would also work where it's like you can have two men and they're saying almost exactly the same things.
00:26:00
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:26:00
popculturediner
But one feels real and one feels not so real. um And that's, I think john Jonathan's just a genuine person.
00:26:08
Steve
yep Yeah.
00:26:10
popculturediner
I think he would be a very good choice.
00:26:12
Steve
Yeah, he presents more sincerely.
00:26:12
popculturediner
um Yeah.
00:26:14
Steve
And so I hope he is.
00:26:16
popculturediner
Yeah, I mean, I believe him. Who knows? I have not checked Reddit, but I believe
00:26:20
Steve
No,
Dylan's Predicted Exit
00:26:21
popculturediner
him.
00:26:21
popculturediner
um Maybe I maybe I should. Yeah, maybe I will later. um But yeah, so then so it was a successful date and it's because he opened up. It was like one of those like he might not get the rose if he doesn't share something. So he better share something type of dates.
00:26:22
Steve
Google him.
00:26:35
Steve
yeah Yeah.
00:26:36
popculturediner
And he did. So he's still around. um And then we get this group date and I'm like sitting there. And then when I hear Dylan's name, I was like, oh, Oh, that's not good. um I was like, this is his week to go home.
00:26:52
Steve
Nope.
00:26:53
popculturediner
I knew right then I was like, and so did he.
00:26:53
Steve
Nope. We're getting to the point where it's just like, yeah, we, we know who's sticking around and who's not.
00:26:56
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:26:59
Steve
Like it is, it is quite clear.
00:26:59
popculturediner
Mm hmm. Yeah, it's very obvious. He was just like, ah like when I went to Grant, I was like, sorry, sorry.
00:27:09
Steve
Yep, that was it, buddy.
00:27:10
popculturediner
Sorry, I like you a lot more than Graia and I'm very sorry. um So then, okay. And then, so we're at a sheep farm and we're, all the guys are in flannel. and ah And I love these farmers. I love these New Zealand farmers. I love their accent and
Sheep Farm Group Date
00:27:30
popculturediner
I love how they say bitchelorite. It's so good. um So I don't know if there's a New Zealand version of The Bachelorette, but I if there is, i i there's an Australian version.
00:27:40
Steve
Should be.
00:27:42
popculturediner
um I don't know if there's a New Zealand version, but if there is, I would like to watch it because I really like that. And this whole date, if you've watched Flight of the Conchords, it's basically what Murray, you know, would talk about, about like the tourism in New Zealand. It would be like we have sheep. And we have ah rock walls and we have green hills. What more do you want?
00:28:04
Steve
what Yeah, what else do you need? What else do you need?
00:28:05
popculturediner
Yeah, like those great New Zealand tourism ads where it was just like green stuff and nothing else.
00:28:06
Steve
Yeah.
00:28:12
popculturediner
um So that's what they did on this date. um And Sam thinks he's going to do really well because he like grew up on a farm, but apparently he doesn't know how to open gates.
00:28:24
Steve
Nope. Nope.
00:28:24
popculturediner
So that's.
00:28:25
Steve
No.
00:28:27
popculturediner
Super embarrassing for him and only him because nobody else was like, I mean, Austin kind of looks like he would know what he was doing.
00:28:30
Steve
yeah no
00:28:34
popculturediner
But again, he also does not know, but he also did not claim to know. um But they're trying to herd sheep. And yeah, they're like the the farmers are just over there like, I don't know why they didn't open the fence because the sheep would have just run in had they opened the fence.
00:28:49
Steve
I know. It's like, what are you hurting them into? Like what?
00:28:54
popculturediner
So, I mean, talk about herd mentality. That's what that was. Wake up, sheeple. Learn how to open a game.
00:29:01
Steve
yeah Mmm I Hope Sam what he's like I grew up on a farm It's like nah, you just you just didn't grow up in a city and you had three dogs.
00:29:04
popculturediner
ah
00:29:11
Steve
That doesn't count. That's not a farm.
00:29:12
popculturediner
Yeah, i just there's something that makes me think he didn't grow up on the kind of farm that would have been helpful and at this juncture.
00:29:22
popculturediner
you know
00:29:22
Steve
No.
00:29:22
Steve
and And also it's like, let's say he really did grow up on like a farm farm. It doesn't matter. Cause if you're not raising like cattle or, or sheep or whatever, like you don't know how to herd animals. ah Why would you just grow in porn?
00:29:34
popculturediner
Yeah, yeah, what if they're what if it's just a cornfield?
00:29:36
Steve
Who cares?
00:29:37
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:29:37
Steve
Yeah.
00:29:38
popculturediner
And he's like, I grew up on a farm.
00:29:39
Steve
I grew up on a farm.
00:29:39
popculturediner
I know what I handle this. And it's like, yeah, you grew soybeans.
00:29:41
Steve
That's like, no, it's totally different things.
00:29:44
popculturediner
like You didn't have to herd those anywhere. you just like you know and And a lot of that stuff can be quite automatic ah these days.
00:29:47
Steve
No.
00:29:53
popculturediner
Oh my gosh, so funny. So um yeah, and the farmer kind of read them for filth because he was like, not a lot of collective intelligence that you didn't think to open the gate. And I was like, I, I would simply shrivel away. um And then Dylan's worried because he doesn't want his kicks to get wrecked on this date.
00:30:11
Steve
Yeah.
00:30:16
popculturediner
Apparently he did not bring any, ah you know, shit, kick and shoes.
00:30:22
Steve
Yeah, and there's a lot of doo-doo out there.
00:30:22
popculturediner
And Yeah and uh and they're like we want you to shovel this poo and Jen was like this doesn't smell that bad like pretty cool and she was like I'm actually really enjoying myself just being outside I just really Jen can take any situation and make it sound like it's great she's like I'm having like a really good time like this is pretty pleasant and I I would really rather not be doing anything else I'm like
00:30:38
Steve
Yeah.
00:30:47
popculturediner
OK, good for you.
00:30:48
Steve
Yeah.
00:30:48
popculturediner
ah And then Austin was quite good at pulling dingleberries. I will give him that off the sheep.
00:30:54
Steve
Yeah. And I mean, if there's one skill that I think every woman should look for in a husband, especially if you have a 72 point checklist of what you're looking for in a partner, the ability to pull dingleberries off a sheep got to be pretty high up there.
00:30:58
popculturediner
Mm hmm.
00:31:08
popculturediner
Yeah, very like so key. Um, so that was interesting. And at some point, I think it was during the herding or the dingleberries, uh, Devin like pulls genocide and like get some time with her and is like, Hey, how's it going?
00:31:24
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:31:25
popculturediner
You having fun?
00:31:25
Steve
He's very good at it.
00:31:26
popculturediner
He's very strategic.
00:31:26
Steve
He's a little sneaky guy hello Past pasteurized we hope Mm
00:31:28
popculturediner
Yeah. He's really good. And then they're like, we're going to drink these different kinds of milk. And I'm just like, that better not be raw milk, because if it is, I'll be writing some very angry letters. Okay, let's, you you've got to pasteurize that stuff. I hope it just like looked rustic. And it really like wasn't as rustic as it looks.
00:31:46
Steve
-hmm
00:31:48
popculturediner
I'm like, I don't know what the laws are in New Zealand, but You should not be drinking raw milk. There's way too much stuff getting passed around in that stuff. And that's why you got to pass your eyes. Um, so Devin wins this competition for no reason, except Jen just wanted to kiss him and he didn't complain about anything.
00:32:09
Steve
Hmm.
00:32:09
popculturediner
And they were like, you're the best farmer, Devin. And I'm like, Based on what?
00:32:13
Steve
Is he?
00:32:13
popculturediner
Based on what? I think Austin probably should have won.
00:32:14
Steve
Yeah. It's like, no, it's like.
00:32:16
popculturediner
Like out of everybody, it seemed like Austin was the best sport. He did all the stuff. And then they're like, and the prize goes to Devin for no reason.
00:32:25
Steve
Yeah. The only thing that Devin's good at is cultivating his relationship with Jen.
00:32:28
popculturediner
Yeah, that's true.
00:32:29
Steve
Hey, that's some good farming.
00:32:30
popculturediner
That's true.
00:32:31
Steve
Yeah.
00:32:31
popculturediner
Yes, yes, yes.
00:32:32
Steve
He's.
00:32:34
popculturediner
He's sowing the seeds of contentment with her.
00:32:38
Steve
Yes. Got to sow those seeds of love so you can reap them later as they blossom.
00:32:39
popculturediner
Yes. Yeah. Yes, oh, so nice. um
00:32:45
Steve
So nice, but also it's like he just, yeah, he wasn't doing good farming. He was just doing his Devon thing, but it doesn't matter because Jen's like, whatever.
00:32:50
popculturediner
Yeah, I think like.
00:32:52
Steve
I like three guys here. Everybody else.
00:32:54
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:32:54
Steve
Fuck off.
00:32:55
popculturediner
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Marcus probably did well too, because he's from Minnesota.
00:33:01
Steve
Natural.
00:33:01
popculturediner
And it's just, it's just required.
00:33:01
Steve
It's in his blood.
00:33:02
popculturediner
If you're in Minnesota or Wisconsin, you're just like good at farming. You just show up
00:33:06
Steve
Yeah.
Jeremy's Frat Boy Past
00:33:07
popculturediner
on a farm and you're like, I'm good at it.
00:33:10
popculturediner
um So yeah, but he was just like, yeah, I can turn this into a positive and like they're at It's like they're at the thing at night and like, I can't remember who asked, who asked him, who asked um Devin if he thought he was, was it Jeremy or was it Sam? I don't know. Someone asked him and they were like, be honest.
00:33:27
Steve
Hmm.
00:33:29
popculturediner
Do you really think you were the best farmer? And he goes, I think I'm the best at like paying attention to Jen and like giving her what she wants. And then, God, now I'm trying to remember.
00:33:38
Steve
Yeah.
00:33:39
popculturediner
Oh, no, it was. It was Jeremy. Because then he gave him like this passive aggressive look back. He was like, great. That was really helpful. That was really helpful. And I was like, it kind of was. ah You should be taking notes, honestly.
00:33:48
Steve
Yeah, I mean.
00:33:50
popculturediner
I mean, no need to be passive aggressive.
00:33:51
Steve
Yep.
00:33:52
popculturediner
like He is giving you very helpful information.
00:33:55
Steve
Exactly. I don't, I don't like Devin very much and I don't think he's someone who someone else should be marrying right now.
00:33:57
popculturediner
I don't know.
00:34:02
Steve
But that being said, knows how to play the game.
00:34:04
popculturediner
He's doing the best job playing the game.
00:34:06
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:34:06
popculturediner
It's giving me ah like Hannah Ann vibes.
00:34:10
Steve
Oh, yeah.
00:34:10
popculturediner
Remember when you were like, she is a consummate professional. She knows how to play this game better than anybody.
00:34:15
Steve
Yep.
00:34:15
popculturediner
He's very much playing the game the way Hannah Ann did.
00:34:18
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:34:19
popculturediner
so I mean, now look how that turned out.
00:34:21
Steve
Yeah.
00:34:22
popculturediner
um but But yeah, I think all the other men should be taking notes. He is running laps around them. They like, they really gotta step it up.
00:34:33
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:34:33
popculturediner
um So, all right. So then, so Jen spent some time with Jeremy. I don't mind Jeremy, but I also am just like, I personally wouldn't date him. um But she was just like, oh my God, were you a frat boy?
00:34:45
Steve
Yeah.
00:34:50
popculturediner
Were you like an a frat?
00:34:54
popculturediner
And he's like, yeah.
00:34:55
Steve
And then he gives like the weirdest answer. He's like, I was fat. and I was like, she said frat, not fat. Like I.
00:35:01
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:35:02
Steve
Yeah.
00:35:02
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:35:02
Steve
He's like, no, I was chubby in high school and then I became beautiful.
00:35:02
popculturediner
But I think he I think I think he's just like social pressures and yeah wanting to fit in and, you know, in the most conventional stereotypical way possible. And she's like, oh, my God.
00:35:12
Steve
Yeah. So all of this is telling me like, yeah, she's fine with it, but in my head I'm just like, okay.
00:35:13
popculturediner
OK.
00:35:17
Steve
So he was a little awkward and maybe a little bit overweight and had low self-esteem. And then they got to college and became a douche.
00:35:24
popculturediner
And then he got hazed into.
00:35:26
Steve
Yeah.
00:35:27
popculturediner
Yeah, whatever.
00:35:27
Steve
and And then hopefully he grew up after that and got a little less douchey, but he definitely, i I guarantee he was a douche in college because that's, he seemed embarrassed by the whole thing.
00:35:28
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:35:31
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:35:34
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:35:37
popculturediner
Yeah. I mean, I was a sorority girl, so I can't like really say too much. But also, like the school I went to was not everybody was in a sorority or a frat, because otherwise you had no social life.
00:35:42
Steve
Yeah.
00:35:49
popculturediner
80% of the campus was in a house. It was just like, if you're not in a house, it would be it would people would be like, ah what's wrong with you?
00:35:57
Steve
yeah
00:35:58
popculturediner
like You don't like people, you don't like going places and doing things, like weird.
00:36:02
Steve
No.
00:36:04
popculturediner
um you know And that allowed me to um collect souvenirs from every frat on campus on the last day of school with my sorority sisters, which was pretty fun.
00:36:16
Steve
So you've got a pair of dirty men's underwear from 2009 memorabilia.
00:36:21
popculturediner
like um No, Memorabilia. um Yeah. A plastic skeleton. ah A mug.
00:36:31
Steve
That's good. I hope we get to keep the skeleton.
00:36:32
popculturediner
yeah some Maybe a letter that ah we shouldn't have grabbed. ah But anyway, it's im out of my hands. I don't have any of that stuff right now, so I don't know what you're talking about.
00:36:42
Steve
no
00:36:43
popculturediner
um But I mean, that stuff is fun. But yeah, it was clear that, yeah, it was just weird. It was like, I'm not actually there for the camaraderie. I'm there for, like, feeling normal or I don't know. It was just weird.
00:36:53
Steve
who
00:36:54
popculturediner
um So I'm admitting things on this podcast. I probably shouldn't admit you can't catch me in anything.
00:37:02
popculturediner
Sammy's CD pass.
00:37:04
Steve
Get her internet!
00:37:06
popculturediner
Maybe one day
00:37:07
Steve
Sammy canceled? That's the thumbnail.
00:37:09
popculturediner
Maybe one day I'll tell the full story. um I'll
Austin's Self-Elimination
00:37:12
popculturediner
just say ah two of my sorority sisters called me. This was a long time ago. Obviously I'm old. ah Two of my sorority sisters called me and they said, ah meet us here and wear something inconspicuous. And I said, okay. So I found like the darkest clothing I could find. And then they were wearing a very loud animal print and like a neon clothing.
00:37:38
Steve
Of course, inconspicuous.
00:37:40
popculturediner
And they had a garbage bag and they said, we're gonna go, we're gonna go get some stuff. You wanna come with us?
00:37:44
Steve
Well, that would be inconspicuous if you were on the set of the live action Flintstones movie or at the Rainforest Cafe.
00:37:51
popculturediner
Yeah, it was very inconspicuous. and I was like, um OK, yeah, let's do this. No, it was it was ah fairly innocent. ah So anyway, so. So who's going to get the group date rose? Here's the question. And then we get to Austin and I'm like, I mean, I know he's on the chopping block, but he decides you can't fire me.
00:38:10
Steve
Yeah.
00:38:11
popculturediner
I quit.
00:38:12
Steve
Yeah, I love that move, which honestly, it's nothing but respect.
00:38:14
popculturediner
Honestly, smart.
00:38:17
Steve
Yeah, like you get to walk out with your your head held high.
00:38:17
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:38:19
Steve
And people always talk about like, oh, you're not here for the right reasons, blah, blah, blah. If you're not feeling it yet, and you know she's not feeling it yet, and you know you don't have time, to, to really like actually get to the point you need to get to, this is a great time to bail. And he's right.
00:38:38
popculturediner
Yes, yes.
00:38:39
Steve
He's a hundred percent right. Like she should applaud him for this, but instead it's just like, Oh, my insecurity is in my fee fees.
00:38:42
popculturediner
Mm hmm.
00:38:48
popculturediner
Yeah, it was weird. OK, yeah, so let's talk about that. I thought that was really interesting. So so Austin's like, listen, he said something to the extent of like. like for me and for you, I think it makes sense for me to go like out of respect for you. Like I don't I don't think you're feeling the way that you should feel for me. And I don't think I'm feeling the way I should feel for you.
00:39:09
Steve
Mm-hmm Yep
00:39:12
popculturediner
I see like how far you're getting with these other guys in the house and I'm not there and you're not there either. So we owe it to each other. And I'm going to take myself out of the equation so that you can be left with some amazing men. And I'm I'm positive your husband is in that room.
00:39:32
Steve
Yeah,
Jen's Insecurities Exposed
00:39:33
Steve
it was beautiful and the hundred percent are correct
00:39:34
popculturediner
And i was like that was I was like, that's probably the best exit I've ever seen on the show. And then it felt so strange to have Jen be like, did I not do enough? Was I not good enough?
00:39:47
Steve
Yeah.
00:39:47
popculturediner
And I'm like, I don't think it has... anything to do with you not being good enough, I think you're great.
00:39:49
Steve
No, it has nothing to do with that.
00:39:53
popculturediner
And and he respects you and cares about you so much that he's like, I can't stay here and and make your decision more complicated.
00:40:02
Steve
h
00:40:05
popculturediner
I'm going to simplify it for you because I know that this isn't ultimately I'm not who you would choose. And and so to have her be like, oh, he just doesn't Yeah, he doesn't care about me or I'm not good enough. i was I was very surprised. But it was it was interesting because it did give her a chance to be vulnerable and open up to these men and say, you know, something along the lines of, you know, I like this is making me feel insecure and, you know, I want to act like everything's great and I got it all together. And, you know, and this makes me
00:40:40
Steve
Yeah.
00:40:41
popculturediner
Feel less than but i think it is just a remnant of i mean we hear later on her date with grant which will get into like how toxic her ex was holy shit.
00:40:46
Steve
Mm
00:40:51
popculturediner
um That stuff doesn't just like go away you know it's like it does hang around so when something like this happens and you're not feeling totally secure in yourself.
00:40:51
Steve
-hmm.
00:40:56
Steve
yeah
00:41:01
popculturediner
then I get it. It's easy to be like, I failed somehow. um But hopefully, and I haven't, I haven't looked at anything, but hopefully, maybe Austin put something or Jen has like more reflection and gets it because I wouldn't want her to have like a bad taste in her mouth around him. And maybe it'll be like the mental all that'll like wrap up there.
00:41:21
Steve
Yeah. Mm hmm.
00:41:24
popculturediner
um But I mean, it ended up working out well for her, because um you know the men who were on the group date were like, like no, like you're awesome. like You're so awesome.
00:41:35
Steve
Yeah.
00:41:36
popculturediner
And you're the best. And we don't feel that way at all. And like we're all here for you. And that's why we're staying, because we're all invested in this. So you know ah yeah, it was hard to watch her say like she felt worthless.
00:41:48
Steve
No,
00:41:49
popculturediner
I was just like, oh my god, no. What? No.
00:41:52
Steve
that's not good.
00:41:53
popculturediner
um No, but I'm sure I'm sure it's mostly because of how she was treated in past relationships that she just goes to that. And I'm sure someone told her that at some point. And that sucks um or made her feel that way. um But
Contestant Personas: Sam vs. Marcus
00:42:07
popculturediner
that none of that changes the fact that I think Sam is such a fucking loser. um And he said something cliche like during during this kind of I don't remember what it was because it was just, you know, I don't know.
00:42:11
Steve
yeah yeah
00:42:20
popculturediner
It was just bad. It was just like You know, are you from Tennessee? Cause you're the only 10 I see that he might as well have said that.
00:42:26
Steve
That's
00:42:28
popculturediner
I don't know. when he He said something cornball and I was just like, I got a, I don't, I've stopped listening to you.
00:42:31
Steve
great.
00:42:35
popculturediner
I don't enjoy you anymore. Um, but then she gets some time with Marcus and she talks about how he's reliable, which a hundred percent agree. I think he's going to be in the final two.
00:42:47
Steve
Yeah, I I hope so.
00:42:47
popculturediner
I think he's going to be in the final two. I think he would be a very good choice. I think she should um really strongly consider ah Marcus.
00:42:56
Steve
Well, here's here's the thing. Here's the thing. Should he be in the final two?
00:43:01
popculturediner
Yes.
00:43:01
Steve
Yeah, absolutely. um In fact, at this point, with who's left? ah That's the guy you probably want to root for, but.
00:43:09
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:43:10
Steve
All that considered. Do you think Jen is emotionally mature enough to make that choice? Because I gotta to tell you, if you look at like the top dudes, he's not a top two dude right now.
00:43:20
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:43:25
Steve
We know who the top two dudes are. and ah
00:43:28
popculturediner
Sam and Devin.
00:43:29
Steve
yeah
00:43:29
popculturediner
Is that what you'd say? Yeah, it's just so weird.
00:43:31
Steve
Oh easy easy and Devin is like, okay. Well, you're playing the game. Well, and I know there's some goodness in you somewhere but also me and then Sam is is Sam so Mm
00:43:39
popculturediner
Mm hmm.
00:43:43
popculturediner
Yeah, I mean, the thing is, so that's what I was going to say about like the Devon versus Sam thing is when Devon. So like Sam said something to Jen that was kind of the same as what Devon said and in this moment. And he said to Jen, like you're worthy and more of being chosen.
00:43:57
Steve
-hmm
00:44:00
popculturediner
And I don't want you to feel like you aren't worthy because you are.
00:44:04
Steve
yeah
00:44:05
popculturediner
And I believed him and I don't believe anything Sam says ever. um And so it's weird how two guys can say almost the same things and it can feel so different depending on who's saying it. That's all I'm going to say. I'm not saying he is or isn't trustworthy. I'm just saying I don't feel comfortable with him on my TV and I want him off my TV.
00:44:28
Steve
Yeah.
Devin's Group Date Win
00:44:29
popculturediner
um So we get into a date.
00:44:29
Steve
No.
00:44:32
popculturediner
Wait, did anyone get a group date, Rose?
00:44:37
Steve
for the, for for what, for the, for the sheep?
00:44:39
popculturediner
For the yeah.
00:44:41
Steve
Devin got the, well, I guess he didn't, because he already had a roast, he's already safe.
00:44:44
popculturediner
He, yeah.
00:44:45
Steve
Okay, well, Devin won.
00:44:46
popculturediner
OK, he won. So wait, so wait, did he get it from. The date.
00:44:52
Steve
He must have, he must have, because I know he was safe and I know he won, so yeah, he must have gotten it from there.
00:44:53
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:44:56
popculturediner
Yeah, see, again, confused Devon safe, so then she goes.
00:44:57
Steve
Either way, Devin's safe.
00:45:01
Steve
She probably didn't want to give it to Austin, even though he won the group date because she knew she wanted to ax him and then, and then she got mad when he left.
00:45:06
popculturediner
Maybe, maybe. Yeah, I don't know. It was just weird. it was like I think she just wanted to tell him to go. um So she goes on a date with Grant.
00:45:13
Steve
Yeah.
00:45:16
popculturediner
um She wants to know what makes him him because we literally know nothing about Grant until
Grant's Horseback Date
00:45:21
Steve
He day trades.
00:45:21
popculturediner
this point.
00:45:22
popculturediner
Yeah, we don't know anything else about him. um I thought that there would be a good chance that he would go home if this date didn't go well because like we just know nothing about him. um And we and so we we go horseback riding and I think I can't remember if Jen or Grant said it looked like a movie. But my note was, wow, it looks like a computer background. It looks like a really nice computer background on here. um And then Grant says like the date was perfectly imperfect.
00:45:55
popculturediner
And I think that's just because it rained. And I was like, I think it was just like perfect. I don't know.
00:45:59
Steve
Yeah, what does that mean and then and then Jen's like just like relationships that are like What what does that mean?
00:46:01
popculturediner
I was like perfectly per perfect.
00:46:07
popculturediner
Yeah, I was like, what's the imperfect part? I was very confused by that. I was just like, that kind of seemed like a perfect date to me.
00:46:11
Steve
No, this is the The home-goodsification of America. People are just saying things like, what does that what does that fucking mean to you?
00:46:18
popculturediner
Yeah, it was a Ray Dunn date, ah mass produced imperfection.
00:46:19
Steve
It doesn't mean anything.
00:46:21
Steve
Yeah.
00:46:25
popculturediner
um But anyway, so so Grant, um yeah, perfectly imperfect.
00:46:27
Steve
ah But first, coffee. I'm sorry.
00:46:34
popculturediner
So Grant talks about himself and he talks about how his dad ah was an addict and is a little under two months sober and it's very um vulnerable story. And Jen talks about working in the ER and seeing addiction and you know talking about it as ah as a sickness and you know she's got a lot of empathy um for him and so it's a nice connecting moment. um And then Jen opens up and talks about her toxic eggs
00:46:58
Steve
Mhm.
Jen's Emotional Scars
00:47:02
popculturediner
Who told her that racism was fake? I was like, I didn't imagine that level of toxicity. Like when I was thinking about her toxic ex, I'm thinking kind of the stuff that I see in Sam, you know, Sam M where it's just like, who are you like that makes my blood boil and who are you talking to?
00:47:10
Steve
Yeah.
00:47:20
popculturediner
And he's like, I'm just worried that at some point he's going to use love as an excuse for like an extreme negative emotion. That's all I'm saying.
00:47:30
Steve
and Yeah.
00:47:30
popculturediner
I'm not saying he would do that.
00:47:31
Steve
Yeah.
00:47:32
popculturediner
I'm just saying that's what I would be concerned about.
00:47:35
Steve
I want to know who Jen was dating before this, like Richard Spencer, Jesus, like.
00:47:35
popculturediner
um
00:47:39
Steve
who
00:47:39
popculturediner
like and I was just like how like yeah all kind I mean that was the that was the one note that I took I mean it just sounded like because she would talk to him about like misogyny and racism and you know just like talks like other forms of systemic toxicity and he would basically be like that's not real like you need to toughen up you need to just like be more open-minded and accept
00:47:58
Steve
yeah
00:48:02
popculturediner
people who have open hatred towards you. Like, it was very weird. And I was like, that's yeah, that's like so much work. I that is the one thing I did Google. I was like, Who's this motherfucker? I want to mess him up with that. I'm going to give him a piece of my mind. um But I have not been able to find him.
00:48:20
Steve
It's just wild. Like i mean imagine like just trying to bring that person out in public, like to have drinks with you and your friends.
00:48:26
popculturediner
Scary, scary, scary.
00:48:27
Steve
Yeah. like what What's it gonna say next? oh
00:48:31
popculturediner
Yeah, I mean, you know, yeah, that's another level. That's really, really awful. um So but um them sharing their ah poor experiences did ah create a bonding moment. And Grant does get the rose and um Grant says he's starting to fall. He said he is starting to fall and that it is ah more than attraction and he's getting kind of emotional and then um when we get to um the
00:48:55
Steve
you
00:49:08
popculturediner
like rose ceremony, cocktail party, but the cocktail party gets canceled.
00:49:11
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:49:13
popculturediner
um Grant starts talking about falling in love. So he start he talks about starting to fall out the date when we imagine he's here and then then he goes there. And then he yeah, he's start he's falling in love, starting to fall to falling in love. And he's getting really emotional, but and I think he does believe it. But I have a weird feeling that he's someone who's being heavily influenced by production.
00:49:39
Steve
Yeah, oh for sure for sure Yeah who Yeah
00:49:40
popculturediner
I don't know, because I just feel like he's feeling like he went from not really interacting with Jen to like having very strong feelings.
00:49:48
popculturediner
But. I don't know. We'll see. um And then I wasn't sure how many people were going home. I thought two. So my guess was Dylan and Spencer. That was my guess going in. um But because Austin self-selected, they did only have one man go home. um And Jen canceled the cocktail party because she knew what she wanted.
00:50:15
Steve
ye Yeah.
00:50:15
popculturediner
um And she looked amazing again in purple sparkles. Oh, my God.
00:50:19
Steve
Yeah.
00:50:20
popculturediner
um
00:50:21
Steve
What a great way to get sent home from New Zealand. Let me tell you.
Jonathan's Rise as Favorite
00:50:25
Steve
Purple sparkles.
00:50:25
popculturediner
in purple sparkles as the only one.
00:50:25
Steve
Just just tell me to get out of here, purple sparkles.
00:50:29
popculturediner
um So, yeah, that was sad because I was like, it's it's harder because he was like my early favorite. I will say Jonathan really climbed the charts for me.
00:50:39
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:50:39
popculturediner
um But it was Sam gets the first one gross. And then, no, Devin, Devin got it now. So I don't think anyone did did get it.
00:50:49
Steve
Okay. So nobody nobody got it. Nobody got anything for the, the sheep date.
00:50:52
popculturediner
I don't think so, unless I'm wrong, but I have Devin, Marcus, Jeremy, and Spencer got the roses at the ceremony.
00:50:54
Steve
Okay.
00:51:01
Steve
Okay.
00:51:02
popculturediner
And um yeah, this whole thing was, and then Grant already had it before.
00:51:07
Steve
Yeah. From his one on one.
00:51:07
popculturediner
and
00:51:08
Steve
Sure.
00:51:08
popculturediner
and um my brains going and Jonathan had it from his one on one before. So I think that's it at this point. I can't think of anybody else. So yeah, it was just Dylan who went home and that was hard and sad. um But I really i he was just too quiet. You know, he's like too normal.
00:51:30
Steve
Yeah.
00:51:32
popculturediner
He's too quiet. He's like, didn't get involved in too much stuff, but would narrate when they needed him to.
00:51:39
Steve
Yep.
00:51:39
popculturediner
And um he, I think he'd thrive in paradise. I hope he gets on paradise.
00:51:43
Steve
Oh yeah. See on paradise.
00:51:44
popculturediner
He's like perfect.
00:51:45
Steve
He's going to be one of those ones where like, they're going to be talking to the ladies and they're going to be like, Oh, I hope Dylan's
Stagecoach Festival Connection
00:51:51
Steve
here. He's so nice. I saw him at stage coach.
00:51:55
popculturediner
I don't know if Dylan's a stagecoach guy. We'll see, though.
00:51:57
Steve
It doesn't matter if you're a stagecoach guy.
00:51:57
popculturediner
They all just go to stagecoach.
00:51:59
Steve
You go to stagecoach.
00:51:59
popculturediner
That's true.
00:52:01
Steve
It doesn't matter.
00:52:01
popculturediner
That's what you do. You go just visit a name now.
00:52:03
Steve
I mean, I was standing by Dylan during the jelly roll set at stagecoach. That's what someone's going to say.
00:52:10
popculturediner
Does stagecoach have a new name or no, there was a or there's a new festival that's being brought about by s stagecoach. Is that what it was?
00:52:20
Steve
I have no idea. I'm not a stagecoach man.
00:52:21
popculturediner
Oh, my gosh, they were. Here's the thing. They were actually with Jen during stagecoach, I think, because it's April 25th through the 20. Oh, no, that was 2025. But I'm assuming then, yeah, they were probably there.
00:52:32
Steve
Mm.
00:52:34
popculturediner
Right. It was probably yeah April 26th through the 28th, 2024.
00:52:35
Steve
Yeah.
00:52:37
popculturediner
So I think they were they were busy.
00:52:40
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:52:40
popculturediner
Nickelback was there.
00:52:42
popculturediner
Hmm. Yeah, and Morgan Wallen. Anyway, what a terrible human.
00:52:42
Steve
Oh, thank God.
00:52:47
Steve
Bleh.
00:52:50
Steve
I have a question for you.
00:52:50
popculturediner
So. OK, I'm ready.
00:52:52
Steve
Okay, so we have just sent home the beautiful sweet Dylan.
00:52:58
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:52:59
Steve
And we are down to seven guys. I think we're going to lose a minimum of two next week, potentially three.
00:53:09
popculturediner
um Is it seven or is it six?
00:53:11
Steve
Um, we are down to, yeah, we're down to seven, down to seven guys.
00:53:16
popculturediner
Wait, so who's the seven? Because I'm trying to still figure out if there was a group date rose that I forgot about.
00:53:18
Steve
Okay. So we've got Devin, we've got Grant, we've got Jeremy, the, the often forgettable Jeremy.
00:53:21
popculturediner
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I got it. I missed. No, I forgot. No, I forgot Sam um because I had the note.
00:53:29
Steve
Yeah.
00:53:29
popculturediner
So it was Sam, Devin, Marcus, Jeremy and Spencer who got roses at the rose ceremony and then Jonathan and Grant got it on their dates.
00:53:33
Steve
Yep.
00:53:37
Steve
Yep.
00:53:38
popculturediner
So, yeah, there was no group date rose.
00:53:38
Steve
Yep.
00:53:40
popculturediner
OK, yeah, seven guys.
00:53:41
Steve
Goodbye, Dylan.
00:53:43
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:53:43
Steve
Now, assuming that, well, I mean, how close, we gotta be close to hometowns at this point, right?
00:53:50
popculturediner
I think next week might, well, there might be one more probably.
00:53:53
Steve
So next week won't be, yeah, one more before hometowns. So if that's true, then we're gonna have to eliminate three.
00:54:01
popculturediner
sir
00:54:01
Steve
So who are you sending home next week, Sammy?
00:54:04
popculturediner
but but Okay, let me think about it. Okay. I've got to write i got to write all the names down again. so ah I'm using my mechanical keyboard to type this. um It's really nice. It's got um milky ah yellow ah switches, and they're really nice. I don't know why it took me so long to buy one of these and build one. OK, let's see. um I think Grant's going home.
00:54:33
Steve
Okay.
00:54:34
popculturediner
um Spencer's going home, for sure.
00:54:37
Steve
Okay,
00:54:38
popculturediner
um And then Jeremy's going home.
00:54:42
Steve
okay good choices.
00:54:43
popculturediner
So it's, it's going to be Sam, Devin, Marcus, and Jonathan at hometowns.
00:54:48
Steve
Now. I agree there is no situation imaginable in my brain right now where Jeremy and Spencer are not going home next week. Sorry, boys.
00:54:59
popculturediner
They gotta go.
00:55:00
Steve
See you later, you nerds.
00:55:01
popculturediner
her Yeah.
00:55:03
Steve
Now, that being said, I think Devin and Sam are the A1, A2.
Grant or Marcus: Who Will Jen Choose?
00:55:12
Steve
They're top of the heap. So that leaves Marcus and Grant.
00:55:17
popculturediner
Mm hmm.
00:55:17
Steve
Okay. So now what you have to choose is, do you believe in production and their love of Marcus as Sammy does? Or do you believe in the proximity effect of the bachelor where Grant just went on a really good date with her?
00:55:30
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:55:35
Steve
And I think that Jen just might have bachelor goldfish spring, which we frequently see see happen.
00:55:42
popculturediner
yeah
00:55:42
Steve
And I think Grant's going to stick around for one more week.
00:55:45
popculturediner
Hmm.
00:55:48
Steve
And Marcus.
00:55:48
popculturediner
and Marcus will go home.
00:55:50
Steve
Yep. Salute that soldier. He's walking.
00:55:54
popculturediner
i I'm gonna make a bold prediction and say Sam's gonna fall at some point. And I think Marcus is gonna stick around and I think he's got top two potential. I'm gonna say it.
00:56:05
Steve
Wow. Okay.
00:56:06
popculturediner
That's what I want to say. I don't have any inside info on any of that.
00:56:07
Steve
oh So.
00:56:09
popculturediner
There's there's one thing I did find out on accident, but nothing about this. um I will say Marcus. Marcus has has more staying power than you're giving him credit for.
00:56:22
Steve
So here's the other thing though. We're talking production, okay? Yes, production loves Marcus, but do you want a hometown where you go to Marcus and he unpacks his one flag and he's got another flag hanging on the wall? Or do you want to go to the hometown with Grant where his father has been sober for two months and we have this like big emotional moment?
00:56:44
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:56:44
Steve
And if I'm production, I mean, come on, right?
00:56:49
popculturediner
I still don't think that there's enough of a connection with Grant. I think there was good progress on the date and he would they were both equally vulnerable and would have felt weird not to give him a rose.
00:56:56
Steve
Mm-hmm Okay,
00:57:02
popculturediner
But I think if he hadn't opened up, he wouldn't have gotten a rose. um And I don't think that's enough to propel him into another week.
00:57:06
Steve
yeah Yeah
00:57:11
popculturediner
And I think Marcus has staying power because they went on a one on one a couple weeks ago at least and she's it's like he's kind of the person that she feels I think she feels the most comfortable. with Devin and Marcus and Jonathan, I would say those are the three words. it' Like she's kind of like the coziest, the most comfortable. And so I don't think any of them are going anywhere. And I think Sam's like the volatile wild card.
00:57:40
Steve
Okay, okay Jeremy's forgettable clearly
00:57:40
popculturediner
That's what I think. I don't think there's enough of a connection with Grant. I think Spencer is too much of a nice guy for her. I i don't think there's anything wrong with him. I just don't think he's like, Jeremy, I don't think Jeremy is forgettable, but I think he's like snarky in a way that she doesn't care about.
00:58:02
Steve
Mm-hmm
00:58:02
popculturediner
Like I don't think, I think he's kind of funny, but I don't think he's the kind of funny she likes. I think Devin and Jonathan are the kind of funny she likes.
00:58:10
Steve
Yeah No
00:58:13
popculturediner
And they're different types of funny, but I think they're like the funny that she likes. And I don't think like Jeremy's doing anything for her in that regard. Like, I think she's just kind of trying to keep up with him and she's like teasing him, but he's not really going for it.
00:58:22
Steve
Mm
00:58:29
popculturediner
So it's not, you know, and like Devin can be kind of self-deprecating and Jonathan can be silly and he's not either of those things.
00:58:29
Steve
-hmm
00:58:37
popculturediner
um I think he take I think he's like jokey, but takes himself too seriously for it to land all the time with her.
00:58:44
Steve
Yeah, yeah.
00:58:45
popculturediner
I don't know. That's just my ideas.
00:58:47
Steve
No, I think that's, you you got a point there, but it really is. I think it's it think it's Grant versus Marcus. Like that seems like the ultimate battle right now, which I'm here for.
00:58:54
popculturediner
Yeah.
00:58:57
popculturediner
I just think it might be too much too fast and maybe.
00:59:02
Steve
who
00:59:03
popculturediner
With all the things he's talking about in this episode, maybe he'll come on too strong.
00:59:08
Steve
o And then Jeremy will win it all.
00:59:08
popculturediner
And that'll kind of like catch Jen off guard. i No, I don't think Jeremy. I think je this is Jeremy's last week.
00:59:16
Steve
No.
00:59:17
popculturediner
I really do.
00:59:18
Steve
Yeah.
00:59:19
popculturediner
And I think it's Spencer's last week.
00:59:19
Steve
Bye Jeremy.
00:59:20
popculturediner
I think those two are very obvious. And I do agree the third one's kind of up in the air.
00:59:22
Steve
and
00:59:24
popculturediner
So we'll see. We'll see which one of us reigns
Podcasters' Playful Argument
00:59:29
Steve
Is the smart is the smartest person alive?
00:59:29
popculturediner
supreme.
00:59:33
popculturediner
Yeah, that's that's the award that I won. I won an award last week and it was for the smartest person alive.
00:59:39
Steve
Oh, yeah. Well, that's not true because I actually won the Lifetime Achievement Smartest Person Alive Award last week after they gave you just the one for this year and Albert Einstein gave it to me.
00:59:40
popculturediner
her
00:59:50
Steve
so
00:59:51
popculturediner
Now, it sounds like Devon and Tom is fighting.
00:59:53
Steve
yeah are we're We're the Devin and Thomas of Bachelor Podcasts.
00:59:57
popculturediner
No, you are. You are. You're an asshole. You're a boy head. You want to go go. You want to go. It's like, OK.
01:00:08
popculturediner
Yeah, well, I'm one step better than you.
01:00:08
Steve
Sammy the Intimidator.
01:00:11
popculturediner
So um you try to one up me. I'll two up you. OK, I'll get one of those special mushrooms ah from Mario and I will two up you.
01:00:15
Steve
Whatever.
01:00:20
popculturediner
OK, I can grab three stars in a row like nothing, like nothing.
01:00:20
Steve
Don't even start with me.
01:00:24
popculturediner
Five, five, five, five up like nobody's business.
01:00:25
Steve
You would, yeah. Oh yeah, because your dad works at Nintendo, right? like
01:00:29
popculturediner
Yeah, my dad works at Nintendo. He totally, my dad did not take a Nintendo out of a dump and recondition it so that I could play it as a kid. He works for Nintendo.
01:00:39
Steve
Yeah.
01:00:39
popculturediner
Okay, that first thing I told you wasn't true. He definitely works for Nintendo.
01:00:42
Steve
100%.
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01:00:45
popculturediner
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01:01:24
Steve
I don't do needle drugs with the livestock.
01:01:30
Steve
That's a possibility.
01:01:31
popculturediner
You've got flavored milk to enjoy.
01:01:33
Steve
ah
01:01:34
popculturediner
cream puffs to eat.
01:01:36
Steve
It's very, ah the bucket of cookies in Minnesota, the cookie bucket.
01:01:36
popculturediner
Pig races to watch.
01:01:40
popculturediner
Airbrush tattoos. We did airbrush tattoos one year. Remember that?
01:01:44
Steve
Yes, I saw a picture of that. I'll go like this, like I still have it on my arm.
01:01:47
popculturediner
Did they say princess?
01:01:49
Steve
Sassy, sassy.
01:01:50
popculturediner
Sassy! That's what it was. I couldn't remember.
01:01:52
Steve
Yeah, still true.
01:01:53
popculturediner
Sassy. Keep it classy and sassy, friends.
01:01:56
Steve
Yeah.