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Surely dog-lovers should be behind the idea of a pasttime allowing dogs to have a good old run around, and where they are the 'stars of the show'? In this episode, Dominic, Carlos & Ant examine the true nature of greyhound racing across the globe, and why it very much is NOT something that a caring and compassionate person would support.
In the discussion, we mention:
https://www.gbgb.org.uk/
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/731016
https://www.facebook.com/shutdown.campaigns
As ever, we love hearing your views on the topics under discussion (or anything else!) so do drop us your thoughts via enoughofthefalafel@gmail.com
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Introduction and Focus on Greyhound Racing
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Hello everybody. Now, if you love dogs, shouldn't you be a fan of greyhound racing? Well, in this episode of Vegan Talk, we take a deep dive into the quote-unquote sport and learn why it's more than just vegans who oppose it.
00:00:18
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I think vegans go looking for trouble even when they're not looking for trouble. That's not what butt is used for. Brrr! Brody. Take your flat-grown meat elsewhere. We're not doing that in the state of Florida.
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Should I call the medium and say, hi, sorry. True education. younger generation are getting to know how brutal these practices are. That leaves a of pizza delivery companies in problems with things.
00:00:42
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What is this? What kind of movie is this? It's comedy gold, maybe. Any form of social injustice.
00:00:52
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As long as you didn't get the wee brunions with the horns you'll be alright. Does veganism give him superpowers?
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I cannot fly around the city. I don't have laser vision. Hello, hello everybody.
Format of the Show Explained
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This is Carlos and thanks so much for joining us on this episode of Vegan Talk. Oi, oi, oi, oi, oi. I am Dominic and if you've not joined us before at Enough of the Falafel, we do two different kinds of shows. We've got our Vegan Week where we discuss the news and current affairs, but that's not this one. na No, no, no. Vegan Talk is where we take a topic where we aren't necessarily talking about something
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happening here and now, maybe a broader subject that has universal appeal. And for that reason, we encourage you to dive back into the previous episodes of Vegan Talk because they are all available in your podcast feed. Indeed, there's over a hundred of them. You could listen for hours. Indeed, perhaps you should. So
Greyhound Racing Legality and Controversies
00:01:58
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we are going to be talking about greyhound racing today in this episode. This is a topic that was requested by one of our Neil listeners. We we know just from reading our emails that we have more than one Neil who listens to us and one of them requested this as a topic. And just also on a personal note, there is a local anti-Greyhound racing group relatively near me that I've started to become involved with. So I was keen for any excuse to learn a bit more and just to raise awareness of this, because as you will see, it is a practice that's common in quite a few countries that are enough of the falafel community comes from.
00:02:43
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And it is certainly not one that places sentient beings at the core of its mission in a positive way. It's certainly an an exploitative industry and pastime. So, Dominic, if we can get the ball rolling here, greyhound racing, I suppose a question some people would ask is, well, is it even legal? Where we record enough of the falafel in England, it most definitely is legal. I had presumed as a Englishman that it was legal everywhere, but in plenty of countries it isn't. It's not legal in Argentina, Italy or South Africa. There's a whole load of places where it's not. I'm not going to list all the places. um but The last one in ah China was closed in 2018. Most of the USA is not having any greyhound racing anywhere. There are two tracks remaining operational in West Virginia. 42 states have made it illegal. ah There are six tracks operational.
00:03:54
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currently active in New Zealand, but all of them are going to be shut down this coming summer. And ah the Scottish government have agreed it's going to back a new legislation to end greyhound racing in Scotland. Tasmania in Australia is phasing out greyhound racing by 2029. It's only got three tracks at the moment. I'm so proud, so proud of some of you grew up in Wales. I'm so proud that Wales has only got one.
00:04:22
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mean, one track is too many, but it is going to become the first UK nation to ban greyhound racing. So that one track will be closing soon. Hooray for that. Yeah, hooray for that. Let's let's go outside and celebrate, shall we, Dominic, when that happens. That sounds like ah a joyous day out. The fact is then, Carlos, that there are places in the world where greyhound racing is legal. Are
Major Greyhound Racing Sites: Australia and Ireland
00:04:51
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you able to give us a bit of a background as to where those places are and kind of what the greyhound racing scene is in those countries? Yeah. Yeah, I would say the the biggest two would be Australia and Ireland. So Australia definitely has the biggest, largest commercial greyhound racing industry.
00:05:08
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They have dozens of active tracks. Whereas, for example, in the UK, we've seen closures of tracks recently. In Ireland as well, greyhound racing is very popular. It's regulated by a sort of a semi-state body, which I will make no attempt to pronounce, but our listeners can look it up if they're interested. they oversee That body oversees 16 active tracks.
00:05:31
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And most of the greyhounds that do race in the UK are imported from Irish breeders. So I would say much stronger in Ireland than it is in the UK right now. Here we have it, of course, in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, but um with tracks closing and much diminished interest. In the US, there's only two tracks remaining operational. you know By the time this goes live, even those those two might have closed. It's also legal in Mexico, in Vietnam, but they don't have actually any functional commercial tracks being used. And of course, there's amateur racing in the same way that kind of anything that involves kind of these sports in inverted comas. There's always like an amateur version as well. So there's kind of non-commercial amateur Greyhound rest racing, but that's kind of not subject to betting or at least no official betting. And that takes place in like lots of different countries, but I wouldn't even kind of bring those into discussion. Um, Because, of course, you know, there's like lots of things that happen in kind of back alleys and, and you know, people on a field somewhere that might do. and
00:06:40
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But that's not what we're talking today. We're talking about kind of commercial greyhound racing with tracks, spectators, breathers, etc., etc. Absolutely. i think something that's worth pointing out to listeners who maybe don't know particularly much about animal racing, so I'll i' group greyhound racing and horse racing together, is that the the appeal to the vast majority of people is not necessarily watching animals directly.
00:07:11
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just for the enjoyment of that, it is the betting industry about that. So is gambling on the outcome and the hope that the animal that you've backed wins the race. And
The Betting Industry's Role in Greyhound Racing
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so you you win lots of money for that, or more often than not, the animal you've backed doesn't win, and what a shame, but maybe I'll have more luck on the next race.
00:07:32
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Just to understand the scale of the money on this, as Carlos said, Australia is definitely one of the forerunners of the the the world greyhound racing scene. In 2023, there was an estimated billion Australian dollars in wages, in bets. In the UK, it was approximately £1.5 billion, pounds and that was in 2024. In the United States, even though it's you know a much smaller scene, there was still over £350 million US dollars. That was in 2024, though that is on the decline. Ireland, 132 million euros in 2019. And even New Zealand, where we've heard there's only six tracks in 2020, $92 million. dollars So huge, huge numbers. And I think it's worth pointing out as well that although we're only talking about a small number of countries where these races are actually happening,
00:08:36
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In countries such as, for example, Spain, where it's illegal for greyhounds to run, it's not illegal to place a bet on it happening. So in this ah similar way, I suppose, that holiday companies in the UK are now starting to say, well, not only can you not ride on elephants in the UK, but...
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but we're saying that it's it's no longer okay to sell elephant rides to British people as part of a package holiday. There is that disparity. So like I say, the the countries where you can't race those dogs, in a sense, they're not tackling the root cause. It's still legal for folk to bet on these races. What we've not spoken about, Dominic, is why shouldn't these...
00:09:23
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races be be going on there's a whole host of reasons and we're we're going to go through some of them now are you able to get the ball rolling on what's what's wrong with greyhound racing there's so much wrong anthony and i've spoken on previous shows about how i don't consider myself the biggest activist going out and campaigning i've got so so much admiration for carlos with the hunt sab i know you anthony have been involved with uh Greyhound activism yourself, which is amazing. What i do think is really powerful if we can do is say, I'm not going on this work trip out to the Greyhound racing. I'm not going to go there. And it's people who consider themselves dog lovers who want to go. And, you know, they're like, but don't you love dogs? Don't you love dogs?
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And how you can not see that dogs running at such high speeds could potentially be dangerous, I don't know. So
Injuries, Deaths, and Drug Use in Racing
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it's up to 40 miles per hour that the dogs are ah running. And this can lead to broken legs, head trauma, spinal injuries, even sudden death due to collisions with other dogs, especially around the tight bends. Between 2018 and 2023,
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and twenty twenty three Over 2,700 greyhounds died and more than 26,500 injuries were recorded on Greyhound Board of Great Britain, GBGB, in the UK alone. As well as the injuries and death, there are documented cases of dogs being given performance-enhancing or injury-masking drugs, including Class A substances like cocaine. because the most important thing is that the race happens.
00:11:09
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that the money keeps coming in. So pre-race veterinary checks are often brief, meaning some dogs may race with un untreated injuries. Post-injury care can also be lacking with some serious injuries leading to immediate euthanasia if treatment is seemed as too expensive. So it's it's really high stakes stuff for these animals who are not consenting to be part of this activity in the first place, of course, which I think is a the the most basic and fundamental argument against this practice, isn't it? I
Living Conditions and Rehoming Challenges for Greyhounds
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think, Carlos, something that a lot of folk don't realise is away from the track that the life of a greyhound is not one of a high-level elite human athlete where you're you're pampered, you're looked after, you're living a ah life of luxury. it's It's far from that, isn't it Yeah, they you know they live like most other working animals where they' you know they've been bred in many ways, kind of genetically engineered by breeding specific animals with other specific animals to to produce this kind of perfect racing specimen.
00:12:21
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and um And then, of course, it's an investment. So you you have to kind of protect it from accidents. So if if you just let it kind of live a normal dog life, it could you know know jump off the sofa and hurt its paw or something. So instead, they're just kept in in kennels for the majority of the time, like in the same way that, you know hunting hounds are kept in kennels for the majority of their lives. So usually 20 to 23 hours a day.
00:12:47
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They don't have any opportunity to exercise or play. They only socialize with other greyhounds. So one of the biggest problems we we as a society, and I guess people do do dog rescue, yeah run kind of dog shelters and rescues, is that greyhounds are difficult to rehome because, for example, when they look at other dogs, they don't even recognize the other dogs as dogs because they've never been socialized. So for them, it's a completely different species. So it's very hard for them to make dog friends.
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And it's very likely they, for example, will chase other dogs in the same way they would chase a squirrel or a cat, which I guess is a normal dog behavior. But because they don't even recognize, they haven't been even socialized with other types of dogs. So they didn't even recognize the same species there. They can be quite dangerous in that sense. And it makes them rehoming them quite much more difficult also because they have had a childhood, if I can use that term for a dog,
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where they haven't they have have had no play, very few human interactions. So an owner kind of rehoming one after the racing career, and I'm using career here very loosely. They have a dog which kind of needs to learn all these things. And, you know, unfortunately, the the saying has some truth to it. You know, it's very hard to teach an old dog new tricks and and getting a dog that's already seven or eight years old and having to teach it to play or to play fetch or to... you know kind of engage in kind of normal domestic dog behaviors is is a challenge. They become different to Rehome as well. and to
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to add on top of that, because it's impossible to produce a perfect racing animal every time. And this happens, we see with horses as well. There needs to be overbreeding. So what they do is kind of they they produce more dogs than they need, and then they just pick the ones that can actually go fast and and and race. And the others are a waste. So what happens with animals that are a waste in an industry? They disappear, they're disposed of,
00:14:47
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There's very few record keeping of what happens to them. But I guess, you know, if we have people who use animals as a tool for something, we can imagine how do they handle this extra animals, this wastage, as they're called. And and I think that leads to Another fundamental issue with greyhound racing is that, like you say, Carlos, there's not really that much documentation of these, well, it's it's horrible to use the word surplus, but it is how they are treated, surplus animals that that are that are wasted, that are that are killed, euthanised, or you know we we don't know what happens to them. and And a lot of that comes from the fact that the industry of greyhound racing is generally self-regulated.
Self-Regulation and Lack of Transparency in the Industry
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So yes, there are regulatory bodies. I'm currently on the website of the Greyhound Board of Great Britain, but generally speaking,
00:15:43
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they are the ones who are trusted to do the the regulations. So actually, if there's something inherently flawed with the practices of greyhound races, breeders, the sport as a whole, if it's only inspecting itself, that there's not the same kind of scrutiny or transparency that there would be as if it was a completely external regulator that that was going in and maybe had more of ah the common person's transparency or touch to kind of say, well, what about this? What's what's happening about this? The Greyhound Board of Great Britain do release statistics. that They're not releasing those ones that we were talking about in terms of dogs that kind of never make it into the the racetrack, if you like. So those figures generally aren't prepared. They do, however, provide numbers in terms of how many greyhound races are done each year, how many runners are there, and how many injuries there are, and how many fatalities. So I'll share some of those with you now. Three in 10,000 runs will result in a fatality. So the the number of a run there would be, if if there were 10 dogs in a race and they do one race, that would be 10 runs because there are 10 dogs doing a race. So basically when a dog lines up to do a race, it's got a one in 3,333 chance of dying. to put that in context, i crunch these numbers.
00:17:17
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In the Premier League football this weekend in the UK, there will be about 300 players playing this weekend, just in the Premier League, just in the top league of 20 teams. So that would mean at that rate of fatality, every 10 weeks in the Premier League, a player would die.
00:17:39
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That's the level of fatality there. One in 100 runs will result in an injury. So that's basically saying that there would be three injuries a week. Now, in in the Premier League playing football, there is probably that rate of injuries. But as Dominic was describing, these are high-impact injuries. And as Carlos has been saying, these animals are really treated like commodities. So an injury...
00:18:04
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is almost certainly leading to that dog no longer racing, not being looked after. Maybe it can lead to them being euthanized. And in fact, 2024, 6% of the dogs who stopped racing in 2024, you might think, oh, they just all retired, did they? 6% of the dogs who stopped racing did so because they died as a result of racing. So sometimes the figures we're given for, oh, this greyhound ran today and it died during the race. Well, that's not all of the deaths associated with that race. They might have got an injury that led to them being quite put to sleep or have you. And these are the numbers that are being released by the Greyhound Board of Great Britain. So I think it's fair for us to say that they will be producing the kindest looking figures that they possibly can.
00:18:57
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Dominic, we have been talking grim, but truths. You know, it's important that we document these things and and get the information out there. Because as you've said yourself, like I was the same, like folk don't necessarily know these things.
00:19:12
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It's a bleak picture. the good news is that folk are doing stuff about this and there are people campaigning. Would you be able to take us through some of the organisations and what they're doing?
Campaigns and Efforts Against Greyhound Racing
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Yeah, I'll tell you about nine different ones, starting with one who have a petition, which when Anthony sent me all of the reading for us to do before we record the ah podcast, I saw the animal aid government petition calling for a ban in the UK. And I signed So they've had a new signature today from me. It'd be wonderful if you wanted to sign it. There'll be a link in the show notes. The Animal Aid Group did a a campaign called Hounds of the Underground on our ah London Underground Racing Awareness last summer. So they've been really, really proactive in taking a stance against greyhound racing. as have the Alliance Against Greyhound Racing, an alliance of campaign groups in the UK and Ireland working towards a phased ban of greyhound racing in Great Britain. The ah RSPCA and Blue Cross have openly called for a ban.
00:20:24
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ah The League Against Cruel Sports have campaigned for stronger animal protection laws and an end to the abuse of animals for sport, which includes greyhound racing.
00:20:36
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Grey 2K USA Worldwide They are an international non-profit organisation who are working to pass laws to end dog racing. and They've been instrumental in changes in legislation in many US states and supportive of efforts in the UK and Ireland as well.
00:20:57
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Caged Nationwide are a UK-based campaign group that runs awareness tours, Unbound the Greyhound Coalition, is a group that brings together loads of different groups. The League Against Cruel Sports in Scotland, the Scottish Against Greyhound Exploitation. They're working mostly in Scotland.
00:21:20
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In Wales, we've got Hope Rescue, who have been... really active in speaking to the Welsh government and as mentioned earlier that is coming to result in a Welsh ban and finally there is the Dogs Trust so this charity supports the Cut the Chase campaign calling for a five-year phasing out of greyhound racing to ensure a smooth transition for re-honing all of the dogs involved. It's really great to hear that all of those organisations are out there doing that. we We certainly don't want to be complacent, do we? But I think sometimes when you're somebody that cares, just hearing that, oh, thank goodness, there are other folk who care about this and they've already started doing stuff, that that makes such a difference to our wellbeing, doesn't it? Hugely. So I i guess, Carlos, I mean, Dominic has touched there on what some of those organisations do. I think it would be useful for our listeners to hear that
00:22:20
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some more of those different strategies, especially as many of them are things that one can do as an individual, aren't
How Individuals Can Help the Cause
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they? is it you know it's It's all well and good to say, oh, well, you need to be involved with this organisation to take this action. But there are things that they're already doing that we can do as individuals too. Yeah, I'm not saying all these organizations do all of these, but most of them are involved with one or more of these activities because they all kind of tie together if you think about them.
00:22:45
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So the obvious one is public awareness. you know That's kind of just making sure that people are aware of what's going on. you know That's kind of advertising, social media, where you tell the general public about the welfare issues, injuries, the wastage of dogs not suitable for racing. Obviously, you know, the UK, for example. um I mean, let let's say dogs are a very popular animal all over the world. So just kind of connecting the plight of racing dogs with the plight of highlighting that they are dogs that most people love and and they suffer with this cruel industry. And then, of course, that's for general public, but there's, of course, kind of lobbying politicians. So there's petitions to national or local governments. to kind of change legislation, maybe to improve the conditions of greyhounds or just to ban them. And this could include things like, not just for the animals, but for example, if there's a planning permission to build a new racetrack, dog racetrack, try to stop that planning permission from passing. So there's lots to do there. Then there's protests in direct action. So, you know, peaceful demonstrations outside racetracks to tell people attending about
00:23:56
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what's going on inside and the reality and cruel reality of dog racing, direct action. i don't think we've had any direct action against hounds gray on racing recently, but there's been quite some high profile ones against horse racing.
00:24:11
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So obviously, you know, you can transfer the tactics from that one to this one pretty easily. Then, of course, dog racing is not a closed industry in the sense that, of course, there's betting on it. There's people paying money to watch it. It's sometimes shown on not public television, but for example, I know inside bookies, they show on the TVs there. So there's a license being paid. So all these are ways to make money with the hounds, but they're also sponsors. So there are companies and companies
00:24:43
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that promote or sponsor Greyhound racing events, either by advertising or by kind of, say, buying a corporate doing their corporate events at a racetrack. So these are all kind of all these sponsorship can be challenged by these organizations.
00:24:59
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Then, of course, there's the question, all right, what happens if we end the greyhound racing? And, you know, there needs to be a plan to rehome greyhounds. And there's, of course, greyhounds that retire um from racing or ah are retired from racing.
00:25:15
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They need to find a home. So for the people who are maybe not that interested that are in protests or lobbying, political lobbying or doing campaigns, just being a foster home or a forever home for a greyhound race,
00:25:29
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is a great thing to do. And of course, there's research that can be done, you know, ah like Ant was doing for this show, trying to find data points, evidence of injuries, poor living conditions. In the same way, there's like farm investigations that can be investigations into kennels and the living conditions there, tracking animals to see what happens to them after their racing career is over, after they've picked up an injury. So there's all sorts that can be done there. And these organizations tackle that. um
00:26:04
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There's a Facebook page, which found quite useful doing my research. It's called shutdown.campaign. So facebook.com slash shutdown.campaign. That has like a wealth of information on this or for the many organizations I think we mentioned before you can just kind of go to their websites and kind of see what they're doing and how you can support them donation or by participating and I will say like that that's the group that I'm involved with it at the time of recording I've not been out with them yet we've exchanged lots of messages but by the time this is being published I i will have been out to a couple of demos and actually even I mean
00:26:47
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I'm not promising this ah frequency of progress for everyone who would become involved in in demonstrations against this or any other kind of animal exploitation. But in the couple of months in which I've been involved with the group, we have seen a local track close down, which is is great. It's lovely to... see that sort of thing happening and, um, yeah, it really buoys you on to do more stuff. And like you say, Carlos, there's all sorts of different things, great and small that folk can be involved with.
00:27:16
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I just want to finish with a ah final question that I posed to both of you. I
Debate on Advocacy Focus: Non-consent vs. Harm
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wonder whether we've we've detailed a whole host of reasons why a compassionate, sensible, empathic person would not support greyhound racing.
00:27:33
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all sorts of different reasons. And at the same time, there could just be one straightforward reason, which is it's non-consensual. The dogs are not choosing to do this.
00:27:43
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Do we think it can complicate things when we give a whole host of different reasons that people can then pick apart or the complete incontrovertible thing of, well, it's against their will, they're not choosing to do it. Is that the most simple and effective approach to take with something like this? I think it's a great argument for vegans to talk into other vegans. I would say for the general public, I would definitely go into the injuries and all the very more obvious dark side of the industry. Because, you know, some people might look at the pictures of dogs racing and see, see, they like doing it. They like racing. Yeah, they like going fast.
00:28:20
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Like humans like going fast. you know, they just might put these emotions and feelings on. on the hounds, even though there's no way for them to prove that. So I would say go with the dark underbelly of the greyhound racing industry.
00:28:32
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I've spoken on a previous show about when I went to an independent comic book fair that wasn't a vegan thing, although it was in the same space that Manchester have their vegan festival. And I came across ah a group called Art92. It's a woman called Helena who runs that. And she has ah a comic book series about Greyhound Rescue And I think that that's a really effective mixture of really sweet stories about how she's ah found a animal companion in a greyhound. But but the comic book show in like real horror. horrible detail comic book story of the life of a greyhound in the greyhound racing industry and it's really a good mixture of hard hitting but hopeful because it's like look at the alternative look at the kindness look at the compassion when they're removed from that barbaric sport and
00:29:39
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given love. So yeah, i was I was really inspired by that. I think that would be a good thing to show to to another person. I think for what it's worth, i um I think there's a lot of what we've shared in the show today that A few months ago, I wouldn't have known about greyhound racing. So I think it's always good to, like Carla said, like share things that folk wouldn't know or that the industry wouldn't want you to know or that folk might have a misconception of because that's a nice, quick, easy win. And...
00:30:12
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I'm a big proponent for reducing veganism to its simplest form, which is consent, as far as I'm concerned. But yes, the good news is we don't have to choose. We can do both, can't we? We can do both. Thank you, Carlos. And thank you, Dominic, for for helping us share those different insights into that.
00:30:31
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horrible industry and good to see it waning in so many places across the world and long may that progress continue listeners you know that we love hearing from you for the very fact that this episode was requested by lovely Neil so don't need to tell you the other Niels aren't lovely is that what you're implying well that is how I differentiate between them there's lovely Neil and then there's the rest yeah um But yeah, we we love hearing from you. we We have to keep hearing from you. It helps us keep going and know that you're out there listening. So do get in touch to let us know your thoughts, opinions, corrections, or suggestions for other shows.
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Go on, send us a message today. enough of the falafel at gmail dot com I'm realising I should have said at the top of the show as well, apologies for my husky voice. I will give a shout out in the next show that we record for any listeners that can triangulate ah the date that we recorded the Vegan Week episode where I had a similarly husky voice. and work out what date this episode was recorded. Congratulations, anyone who can do that. You will win a shout out. um and Yes, because also also dog racing will have been banned by January 2026, which is right now. So this this is absolutely so just completely out of touch.
00:32:20
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Exactly. We're so arcane, aren't we? We're so arcane. Nonetheless, if you can help us out with ah a rating, a review, a share, a lovely comment, we're we're desperate for any kind of approval. So do throw it our way if you can be bothered. Anyway, ah the next Enough of the Falafel episode coming out will be available from Monday, the 12th of January.
00:32:43
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And it will be our news show, which is called Vegan Week. Anyway, that's enough of the falafel for this episode. Thank you, Carlos. And thank you, Husky Anthony, for contributions. And of course, thank you, everybody who's been listening. It's been a great thing recording this. Nice one for tuning in. I've been Dominic, and you've been listening to ah Vegan Talk from the Enough of the Falafel Collective.
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