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Wally and Jhonny Bongs talk about some of their favorite reptile movies
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Introduction and Show Premise
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What's up everybody? Welcome to another edition of Cold-Blooded Conversation. It's your boy Wally. I hope everybody's having a good night.
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What's going on guys?
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Just figured to jump on here tonight and get get the ball rolling with another show.
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Sorry
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about that.
Animal Movies in Popular Culture
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Yeah, and tonight I wanna talk about
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some movies and everything else that have deals with animals that made things famous.
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And what I kinda liked about them and everything else and just kinda talk about that and stuff. So we'll get there and hopefully,
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We'll get stuff rolling and everything.
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Give me one second a here.
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Sorry about that, guys. Touched the wrong button on my laptop and everything else. and No, actually, a couple movies that I forgot. Hold on one second here. What's up, Johnny?
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Good to see you, brother. How are we? Good, man. How you doing tonight? What's up, Glick? Good, good. All right. Well, tonight, um like I said in the let's talk about some, since we're doing Cold-blooded conversations.
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Let's talk about some of our movies and stuff that deals with, like our favorite movies that have animals and stuff in them. I figured that'd be something cool that we we could talk about tonight. By the way, my everybody, just to let you know, when he's available and everything else, Thursday nights I'm going to have, and probably Mondays, but mostly Thursday nights, I'm going to have my boy Johnny up here with me as a co-host.
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even when we have I get a guest or anything. But I have threw the invite out to him to help co-host and stuff because we got the same interest in animals and hobby-wise that stuff. So I figured I asked him if he would do it, and he said whenever he's available, he'd be more than happy. So guys, one Johnny poem is now going to be part of the Cold-Blooded Conversation Thursday night show with me as my co-host. so um and like appreciate it.
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Oh, no problem, man. I appreciate you.
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and Just some dude. Yeah, he
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But yeah, the so yeah, tonight I figured kind of change it up a little bit with the animals and stuff since it's an open open thing with the animals instead of just reptiles.
Hollywood's Depiction of Snakes
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Figured we'd talk some ah of our favorite favorite movies and things about certain animals that kind of got us...
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liking the movies and everything. um oh its the ah So one of my favorites, just because it's a reptile movie and everything else, I do like the original Anaconda with Ice Cube.
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That is also one of those movies back in the day that, let alone everything else going on, Hollywood put a lot of the fear in people over snakes and stuff. So, I mean, it's...
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Oh, yeah. it's It's one of those deals. so
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I did, Glick. You suck it. Hi, Glick. h yeah ah But yeah, I mean, that was... I mean, it kind of had the concept of the size and everything of an Anaconda. I mean, they are... oh yeah the world they're the they are the one of the world's They are the world's largest heaviest snakes They may not be the longest, but I just like the layout, the way they did everything and in the Amazon of that movie.
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um Oh, yeah. it it It was a good movie to an extent, but it of course, you know, Hollywood and their twist on things. i I mean, they do have they do have it where people have been attacked, but not by something that ginormous.
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so
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so And then a couple other ones. Yeah. Really not reptile related. i like Deep Blue Sea where they were doing that underground with those experimental sharks. That was pretty badass.
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Go ahead. I was just going to say along the lines though, but you're right. Kind of outside the quarry a little bit. Gremlins. Yeah. Well, yeah. True.
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Yeah. Especially the way that they were produced and everything else. I mean, I guess you could say. i mean Oh, yeah. up, Robert Platinum? um Another one that you can look at, too.
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You want to think about it kind of the way they were done. You got to look at the Alien and the Predator movies, too. I mean, come on. Predator was... predator You got to admit, Predator is like a mixture of everything. Because he's warm not is he's got the heat-seeking signatures of...
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a reptile and everything else. And I mean, just something different, you know what i mean? But what's some, what's a couple of your favorite movies, you know, that involved animals and stuff in it?
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any Well, you said the, ah that classic can of condom movie. I loved it. Loved it. Like I said, with that one, Nick, Hollywood kind of,
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you know you know how hollywood is with things but their their stuff so well indeed see i think you kind of why like it because it was interesting to see hollywood's take on something that well is very real out in the wild and it's a real concept it was interesting to see what hollywood did with that right but at the same time i mean It gives you an idea of actually how those things, why they're one of the ultimate predators of the Amazon, you know? Indeed.
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So, but yeah, I mean, that i was good. But yeah, the they did great. I mean, it's just, you know, hol like I said, Hollywood had their little twist on it.
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its What are your other ones that you third got piqued your interest that deals with, you know, animals and everything else, man?
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I didn't think of the name of it. Fuck. um
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Ah, that's what I was thinking of. Remember the movie? i Well, two of them. One is Lake Placid. Oh, yeah. Definitely. That was a badass movie, too.
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They should have just left it alone after the second one. That's another one that they just kind of continued heat on and overkilled it. But yeah, the first one was great. It continued where it didn't need you.
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Yeah. But the sad part is there' there's honestly over in Australia, you got your saltwater crocs. I mean, those things can get huge. Not like that big. But I mean, they're they're they're huge. they're one They're the largest crocodilian in the planet. And then they are known to attack humans.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, so, I mean, but, yeah, Lake Placid, I mean, just the way they set that up, I mean, it gives the proper proper ah hunting technique, the stealthness of them and everything else. So, I mean, on that aspect, I mean, they hit what, you know, a crocodile or an alligator or anything like that, and that family would end up doing. Yeah.
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Other than being Hollywood. But yeah, it that was Lake Placid was another good one. That was definitely a good one. One that's a little bit along those lines, but I don't remember as much of is the movie Rogue.
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That was different. That was kind of one of those ones you had to have an acquired taste for, I thought. You know what i mean? That's what I remember about it. It was it was something a little bit different.
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Well, another another good example of how it worked, and yeah, it was a Hollywood one. Congo was another good one from back in the day with how the gorillas and primates worked together.
Iconic Apex Predator Films
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you know i mean, that just showed some of their stuff. I haven't heard about that movie in a while. I just thought of it. i was like, man. he yeah Oh, yeah.
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Britney's right. Right here we we go. this is the You are right. That is one of the classic movies. Jaws.
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You cannot go wrong when you're talking Hollywood animals. Jaws. It is the iconic movie of of your of your apex predators. Hell yeah.
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Speaking of that, just read an article... um They found a 21-foot on-camera and tracking device at are great white off the Rhode Island shores that's migrating.
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Yeah. It's one that's been that they track and stuff.
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o Now that, Wally, brother, you just made me think about something. ah There's been claims, claims that they found... Let's say remnants of the me Megalodon, right?
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But then there's other parts of it saying that it was just an oversized great white. There is actually shadows, everything else, but I think it's a whale shark too down off the coast of Mexico and the Gulf of Mexico by the oil rigs.
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But there is signs because they have found remains of like a 16, 17 foot shark that's actually... had half its body bit out, and it they don't think it was killer whales.
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It wasn't an orca. But there's also been teeth found up on the shores, too. Oh, no, Robert, I remember Cujo. that was That made me fear, and a lot of people fear St. Bernard's for the longest time, too. I mean, a lot of people fear because of Stephen King.
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But yeah, the Maglodon, and if you have if you pay attention... Yeah.
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Well, that you're right about that, Glick. um But they said over by China and stuff, over by their nuclear plants and all that facility, and throughout the ocean, there's creatures they're discovering that's coming from the depths that we can't even go through.
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They're coming up and everything. Yeah. And then... Then there's also the um the the reefs and everything out there in Australia, the coral reefs. There's still depths of the ocean.
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I mean, like I said, it's Glick brought it up. But, yeah, there's so much
Mysteries of the Ocean
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stuff out there that's undiscovered because man can't can't go that deep. Once again, the thing with the pressure change, it's forcing some of those species that can't deal with the pressure change to go higher up in elevation.
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Well, not only that, the shifting in our plates and everything else. I mean, it's obvious. What's happening, brother? Yeah, the Kraken. Yeah. But no, they've been reported. I mean, more giant octopus and everything else popping up on the shores over there and everything.
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for sure. With the Earth constantly changing and shit, it's making making that stuff go. Oh, for sure. Environment's changing.
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Right.
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But yeah, I mean, it's just, it's, but there's been, back to the Megalodon, but there has been videos that they've had of oil rigs seeing, you know, remnants of the shadows of what they believe would be some similarity the one still down in the Gulf Coast of Mexico and stuff.
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You know, interesting that you can say that some of these, foot some of this footage I've seen come from like, I guess, cameras that they sent down to like the bottom of these parts of the ocean. they just have them sit there. and on occasion, you'll see something like that swim up.
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Yeah, there' it's just amazing what's not discovered in our ocean. it's all What could be there. and Indeed. like Well, and the way a lot of them, a lot of the animals that the animals adjusted to being in the dark, how they maneuver, everything else. I mean, there is species. So anglerfish are a prime example of that.
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See that. You just made me think about something, Wally, brother. chain Chain organisms are colonial organisms. Yep. Oh, dude. I really get an interest out of those.
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Right.
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But yeah, it's cool. um Magalodon's another good movie. Jason Statham did a hell of a job in that one. And that's basically... So... Give me a second here.
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Yes, sir.
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But yeah, that that movie was... I mean, that and like Deep Blue Sea, they kind of started with the genetically... In that movie, with the sharks making them their version of an apex predator, the way they could hunt. it They were like a military experiment in that movie, so... Right.
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But yeah, Magalodon, it is known. I mean, they do have remains of ones that they found and everything else, and I still say they're... there is a possibility that is out there Oh, for sure.
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For sure. See, the way I've seen it is ironically enough, anything large enough or anything microscopic enough does just fine. Right.
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It's this weird middle ground where the pressure change affects it negatively. Yep. Well, and that's what that happened in the shift and everything too is the, uh,
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the shifting of the plates, us dumping toxic, the humans dumping toxic stuff into. Oh, yeah.
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So, but yeah, I mean, there's so different things. Let's see. What's another one? Trying to take care of another good one.
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But yeah, that that was me. You thinking any other ones that you can think of the top of your head that would, that piqued your interest?
Unique and Acquired Taste Films
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yes I mean, there was that trope of the, I think it was called 47 meters down. Yup. That's another one. That's basically a spin off of the Magal, Magal Don.
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Yup. I was actually, that was pretty cool. That was pretty good. I liked it. I'm saying, I thought it was a great take on the whole situation. Well, they not only included that the Megalodon in there, I mean, they included the giant ah the giant octopus and a bunch of other, you know, known stuff that they've seen video of enough. But, I mean, it was cool that they did that.
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Well, like that, for instance, when it comes to um the giant squid, right, they've actually seen where these things have almost taken down sharks whales,
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And they've had them wash up on the shores over and the on the over in China and stuff. They've had remains wash up and stuff with big ones. Yeah. I want to talk about Mother Nature creating some nightmares.
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Oh, yeah. wherever we're We're Mother Nature's biggest nightmare, though. Oh, for real. Unfortunately. so But, yeah, that there's a... Let's see what other one.
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Trying to think a couple of other ones to think of.
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Well, I'm trying to think because Britt mentioned the whole thing with the the glowing krill. Yeah. ah I believe, if I remember correctly, I believe that plays off of an algae they fed off of.
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Yep. That's right. Yeah, it is. Bioluminescence, man. That's another amazing detail.
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That's like, too,
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how they made fun of doing the Sharknado stuff. or The newest one I just recently watched a couple weeks ago, it's the Cocaine Grizzly Bear movie. Dude, I was like, you gotta be shitting me.
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What kind of crazy shit they come up with. That was definitely... That was kind of whack. Oh, they have a series of those. yeah Yeah, not only the Grizzly. they did they got the but There's a new one I found. It's the Abominable Snowman that they did one.
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What the shit? Yeah. Yeah, they've got a whole list of them. um
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But yeah, we can... Right. But yeah, back to two, and I'll jump back to it, like the Predator ordeal. Yeah. The way they mixed everything in, and I mean, the more the movies they did after the first two, like the one called Predator, where they were on that island, the way they did different animals that actually was a combination, that they kind of, it was like, ah to me, a mixture of Avatar and, you know, the Predator Island.
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I can't wait to see the new the new Badlands. But yeah, there the Predator itself, the character just entitles kind of entitles the reptile world.
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I mean, the way sure
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the way it is with the heat-seeking other than the high-powered you know weapons and shit, other net but the way it tracks and everything else. so Exactly.
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Have a good night, Brittany. We'll see you. Good to see you. But yeah, that's the thing. And there's there's actually a lizard in Australia that its mouth actually opens like in the predator for a defense mechanism.
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Yeah. it's an action It's like an Omenami lizard or something. But it's an Australian species and it actually opens its mouth and it has it just like the predator does. And it's got little teeth and shit.
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It's pretty neat. Yeah. So it's kind of a concept. It's like they made that movie not knowing that this animal actually exists with the same technique as the predator when it opens up.
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of But yeah. but yeah i mean the I mean, just the concept that just the concept for being in especially back in the 80s like that, looking at it now, that how it entitles in the reptile world.
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So I mean. oh for sure.
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Then, of course, the cult classic, I like the live version of it, the Jungle Book detailing all, you know, with the tigers and everything else in it and stuff was pretty cool.
Realism in Animal Depictions
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Let's see.
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That was probably one of the times where I've seen cinema's remake of, let's say, well, for instance, for example, the tiger, not being glossed over by cinema. They actually hold no punches and making it look rugged and wild and ah Well, that's just like the Lion King when they made the live version of it. I mean, I wasn't a big fan, but the animals literally looked like you walked into the zoo.
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i mean they I mean, it was cool the way they did it. um But there's not a lot of movies out there that really kind of hit that natural habitat um and behaviors other than like Lake Placid.
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Of course, Lion King because they hunt in packs and shit. But I mean, just its just the techniques of the way the animals... act in the wild in real life. Oh, sure. So... They... That whole live-action Lion King, loosely, it was based on... There was an actual lion that they were documenting that this lion just... It was actually Scarface. They actually named him Scarface. It was based on... He was in...
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they're he was in The safari of South Africa that they, I mean, I guess he was known. I know what you're talking about now, but you can finish. I know who you're talking, what you're talking about. They just did a documentary on it.
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Yeah. All I was going to say is regarding that very documentary is this lion was held a record for holding the longest era of its pride together. Right.
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Yeah, and I guess they said something I was reading. It said confirmed at least over 100 hyena kills, if not more. Plus, not only dominating, I guess, a hundred almost 150-mile radius there in Africa.
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And the only reason they found out, the while they found him, they ended up actually finding him. He was poached.
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Yeah. I guess he was poached. After all these years of them following them around and everything else, is the scientists and shit and everything that knew about them.
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Yeah, I guess they ended up finding them. But there was also another lion and another pride too that had the similar scarring on his face. so But it just didn't have the age of this lion.
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But I think it's cool but i think it's cool that it's that that was another thing that was out there. Of course.
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I'd be neat to go over there. I'd just make sure I have a machine gun with me. be um Right. Yeah. yeah You go to Africa, you you are the food no matter what you are.
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Yeah. yeah Mother Nature does not hold back against itself over there. Oh, no. It's the survival of the fittest.
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Indeed. It's a perfect example of it, too. Oh, especially in the droughts. one night the it the When it's not the rainy season and stuff, and all the animals are crossing that the one main river where the Niles are at and shit, they call it Nile Alley. It runs the Nile River and everything.
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They got a big documentary on that stuff where they filmed filmed the droughts and shit. Okay. But yeah, Scarface is actually in The Lion King was actually supposed to be the hero, not Mufasa.
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Because of the way they... are the It was supposed to be the other way around.
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ah yeah But yeah, Scarface is actually named after an actual lion that lived and survived that dominated out there.
Reptiles and Their Features
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What a legacy for an animal.
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Right. ru
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But yeah, i mean I mean, there's some of them that... ed Like, they did the movie Komodo based off of the Komodo dragons.
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And most of that movie was... It was kind of point on. it But of course, it was once again Hollywood. But at the same time, it gave the the nature of the lizard, which is the largest lizard in the world...
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They are, and they're cannibals. They'll eat themselves. They'll eat their own kind too because the island that they're on. Oh, yeah. But yeah, that movie that movie, Komodo, was like a what they call the B-series kind of movie. I think they did a pretty good because it showed the aspect of the the way they hunt and track everything.
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But it was a little overkill overkill with the giant teeth and the they They do have saliva. Their saliva, it has a venom in it. But the way they made it drone shit, of course. But yeah, that's the way they are.
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Right.
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Right. Like you just said, they work more of like ah with a toxin that actually seeps through their teeth. Yep. And everybody, for the longest time, they thought it was actually like... ah just a poison that was built up from bacteria and everything else when it's actually been proven in the zoos that they do have a venom in their saliva because it helps break down. I guess part of the venom that they have, it helps break down their food and everything else that they eat. So, and they're big time scavengers.
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See, yeah. that That anomaly right there has always amazed me how, of course, there's thoses venomous reptiles, but their venom to themselves does know it's not make to affect them, only everything around them.
00:28:53
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Right. Unless you're a king cobra. then that they can Their own venom can actually it can end up, actually, if they're not careful and not taken care of, they can kill each other.
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No, it's good. Yep.
00:29:08
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gen x Jen asked, why do you look so familiar?
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Oh. but but of of I made my way around the YouTubes, if that's what you mean. so Probably something about it there.
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Shit.
00:29:35
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Another movie that... we on community Another movie that a lot of people look at and one of the reptiles that was made famous was the bearded dragons Holes.
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the The movie Holes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
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There was a story behind that that was like, I don't know if this was movie embellishment or nature factor, a fine line between both, but there was a whole plot behind that, that it was a certain sub-species of those and with the venom that they had, highly venomous, certain species, sub-species of. Nah.
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beries are but Beardies are non-toxic reptiles. There is no subspecies that is ah part of that that family or anything else.
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There is only two known kind lizards on the face of Earth that has any venom or anything. That is a Gila monster and a Komodo dragon that has actually been proven to have a venom.
00:30:49
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Other than that, most of the other shit is all folklore and hoopla shit about them. But there is so there is a lizard that has poison that they secrete from their skin, but not a venom.
00:31:06
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it's got ah It's over in Thailand. It actually has a secretion kind of like a dart frog because it's like we were talking last week where it mimics and actually it eats the venomment the poisonous frogs and stuff.
00:31:26
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So... but yeah ah But yeah, there's only two known kind on the face of the earth that actually has venom lizard wise, and that's the Gila monsters.
00:31:38
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Well, three, but it's still part of the family. The Mexican beaded beaded lizard, which is the family, the Gila monster family and and the Komodo dragon. Those are the only ones that are known right now that actually has venom that they use.
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Wally, would you... oh I'm sorry. Did you see this? That's what jen was asking X was asking. oh Oh!
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i i live I live in the north.
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He's a northeasterner. Yeah. But yeah, that's the... stupid yeah but but yeah that's the
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Then there's, let's see, what was a couple of the other, but yeah, that was one of the deals. Yeah, that there's only three known three known venomous lizards that's on, like i said. there is a couple There is a couple that are poisonous because they secrete it through their skin and pores on their body.
00:32:59
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with Were you talking about, ah when you mentioned the one in Thailand, were you talking about the toe case? No, those aren't. No, I have one of those. i was going to say, I tried doing a little bit of research and that's the best it brought up for me, but I didn't think that was correct either because seen coquets and I didn't think they were quite nice. No, they're just they're just very bitey and voc can be very vocal. I have one. But yeah. Yeah.
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specific specific ah but yeah um Another movie that hit it on the head. Shit.
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I just had it and I forgot it.
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I can't remember now. Sorry, brother.
00:33:54
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But yeah, I mean, Hollywood's hit it on the head with a lot of good, you know, based off animal features and everything else, but also They put their twist to them and everything else.
00:34:06
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Oh, for sure.
00:34:10
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For sure. Like snakes on a plane and shit like that. You know. Different things. Oh, yeah. Well, new then you got a lot of them out there. You see like these B-rated movies. It's done. The the movie Komodo.
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um they did They did one called Viper, which was like a Cobra and everything kind of mixed with the, they colorized it as a Python, a Burmese Python, but except, except it hooded up and everything like a Cobra does.
00:34:42
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It's, it's ah one of those random, you can find it on YouTube. It's, it's different. You can, you can tell it's not a big time produced movie, but it it it was, it was different.
00:34:55
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I like to look at that one sometimes. Interesting. Yeah, i just, well, I just looked it up. There is seven Lake Placid movies now total. Oh, my God.
00:35:07
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No, Gen X, I have not seen that yet. I want to see that. The Popeye the Slayer, man.
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But, yeah, they,
00:35:21
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there's a lot of cool ones. Yeah, I'd like to, I've seen, seen previews of it. It looks pretty good. They've really been doing a lot of spinoffs on that stuff, Gen. um
00:35:43
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But yeah, the Lake Placid movies, they kind of overkilled with those two, like they do a lot of the other ones. They just won't let sequels die.
00:35:53
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But yeah, back to what Johnny was saying, um he looked up for toquets. I have one of those in my My collections of pet reptiles and stuff. Took my wife a long time to get it to where he could be handable. Now he's handable and doesn't bite nearly as bad as he used to.
00:36:13
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I'll definitely have to check that out, Gen X Gemini. I'll check that movie out. What
00:36:21
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else was it? Then they do, of course, you know, your werewolf movies, everything else like that that you got out there. um
00:36:32
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But there's a lot of documentaries people can check out, too, if you're you're interested on the nature and stuff out there that they have. It's all over YouTube and everything like ah you can find.
00:36:44
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um They've also brought up and seen where a lot of the migration out in Yellowstone. with the timber wolves and everything else. And um other, other, the other animals, the the elk and all that, and bears are moving around. But yeah, we, uh, there's a lot of cool things you can find out if you just take the time to research it. Oh,
00:37:16
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we'll go back to the Joel's movie. Um, Yeah, that was definitely, like Brittany said earlier, was a classic of all the animal movies were the for attack and everything else. And that does give a prime example of the nature of the sharks, um especially with blood in the water and everything else.
00:37:36
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It's crazy how they can sense that from miles away. They're like a pack of wolves. a lot of them A lot of them travel together. Black-tipped reef sharks. Yeah.
00:37:50
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just regular reef sharks. They all, they all travel in schools, basically. Let's see another one. Oh, another movie that they did, they actually did one of the orca free Willy based on our actual facts of a orca being kept in captivity.
00:38:08
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I guess there's here not too long ago, seeing there was reports of the original orca that was based off of is still alive in the wild. Um, It's pretty cool to see that happen after all the years being trapped in that giant fishbowl, as everybody calls it.
00:38:29
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I know a lot of people are against <unk> and for captivity and everything else. A lot of them, if we didn't have the captivity of most some of these animals that are zoos and everything else, and there wouldn't be any in existence.
00:38:45
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See later, Gen X. Thanks for tuning in, man. Appreciate it.
Dinosaurs and Modern Reptiles
00:38:49
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But yeah, they trying to popular repopulize a the dwindling bloodline and everything else of of the animals that are out that are going extinct or almost extinct in the wild.
00:39:06
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so Another one, movie-wise, thinking of reptiles and stuff and actual history, the Jurassic Park movies.
00:39:18
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The din natures of the dinosaurs. Earth's first giant reptiles and everything else. they They did pretty good on some based off information Hollywood did when they made those movies. the true They were back then the true apex predator when they were roaming the earth and everything else.
00:39:44
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A lot of them you see resemblance in a lot of the reptiles nowadays of their lifestyle between them and the crocodilians.
00:39:55
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Those are the longest living reptiles, crocodilians are on the planet.
00:40:02
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But yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot of cool stuff that it piques my interest on a lot of them. um So I try to share most of it here on the show and when I do this show.
00:40:15
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But yeah, Jurassic Park kind of hit it to head with a lot of the with their animals, the way they hunt.
00:40:23
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Their pack pack presence, their dominance. it was pretty It's pretty neat. But yeah.
00:40:35
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Yeah, the the the animal kingdom is definitely something different than everything else for... out there that is like Glick said earlier to a lot of it's unstudied, especially in the ocean.
00:40:51
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It's untapped and a lot of people still don't understand the way a lot of these animals act, why they act the way they do in nature.
00:41:03
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But it's just their, it's their instinct to survive and we keep taking away their habitats and A lot of people can't coexist with them. It comes back to, I've said it many a times before, people fear stuff they don't understand.
00:41:19
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um I get wildlife, i get you know wildlife you farmers, stuff like that. I mean, I get things happen and shit there.
00:41:31
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That's understandable to an extent. But just to go out of your way to kill it because you don't understand it kind of stupid in my eyes.
00:41:44
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But yeah, I mean, it's one of those deals. It's how you make it and how you were taught and how you were raised, what you believe. But if you would take the time to study and understand them, they're actually pretty amazing.
Ecosystem Balance and Threats
00:42:01
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So i think I think they're pretty cool. um Oops. I think they're pretty cool that they do the things they do to survive.
00:42:17
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Like the timber wolves, when they reintroduced them in Yellowstone, yeah, I get they're causing issues now because they're getting overpopulated again. But it also helps the ecosystem when you have these predators.
00:42:30
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um Controls your pest, everything else, that's why. Snakes are good to have around to keep your rats away, your mice away. Mice are good to have.
00:42:43
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It's just a revolving circle around everything that
00:42:50
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Mother Nature intends. And right now, as it is, we are the top top predator on on the food chain. But at same time, it just goes around. it's the way to survive on a lot of the stuff so.
00:43:10
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See anybody else got any questions or movies that they want to talk about or anything? um
00:43:21
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i You're good man. But yeah, I was just kind of filling in talking about stuff the way mother nature the circle of life kind of works ordeal.
00:43:32
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And talking about that and talking about what people fear that they don't understand. I mean, the way it works. I mean, you look at it, you kill snakes. I get it. They're they're there. They're venomous. There's, you know, people fear them because they were taught to fear them. They weren't educated properly on the ecosystem. i get I get it to an extent, but the same time, like I was saying, while you were gone,
00:44:00
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People kill so kill animals out of fear. um right i get farm I get farmers and stuff with big farms and stuff, you know, trying to take care of what their livestock and everything else. But a lot of people just kill for s spite.
00:44:15
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Like we were talking, what was it, last week? The rattlesnake roundup. They just do that shit for for pure enjoyment. and That there's just stupidity.
00:44:27
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Well, without those rattlesnakes, the ecosystem would go nuts. without any snake, not only the rattlesnakes, your, you know, your constrictor snakes, like your King Snokes and all that.
00:44:38
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Unless, and unless like we've talked before, if you're in the Everglades with the bird, with the Burmese Python ah invasion, right. But of course that, that destroys an ecosystem. I mean, there is control.
00:44:52
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You can control stuff, but at the same time, you got to coexist, but we can't coexist with us. Keep,
00:45:02
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taking what's not technically ours. The more we build, the more that these animals are adjusting in our territory, so they're only trying to survive. Right.
00:45:13
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They're going to get more and more desperate at trying to do so Right. I mean, that's the thing. The more you build, that's like ah there's a couple of the YouTubers I follow that do live in Florida. They're wanting to take and build a roadway through a section of the Everglades.
00:45:31
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And put housing in They want to do a development. Yeah. You talk about these berms and these invasive species that people kept as pets and released, but yet you're you're wanting to put a divide in one of the largest ecosystems in the United States, in my opinion, water-wise, is the Everglades.
00:45:53
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All you're doing is going to cause more problems. The earth has crucial ecosystems like that, of course, for a reason. So if that gets upset on the balance of it, the world's going to get upset on the balance of it.
00:46:06
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Well, that's just like out at Yellowstone to the shifting the plates with the largest volcano. That's not been, that's been inactive for all these years. It's causing the shifts in nature out there to they're migrating in different directions now because they,
00:46:23
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It's amazing what animals can sense. And they know something's going on. So, but yeah, down there in Florida with that, if they cut that in half, I mean, there's going to be, there's going to lot of more pissed off and dead animals moving into the, in our territory that was originally theirs because all it's after is people after the money and everything else building this shit.
00:46:48
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don't they then move into our territory that we've made and we're, course, we're going to respond like they're not supposed to be there it's just going to end badly. Right. And that's the, that's the shitty part. I mean, there's a lot of, I mean, I get it like overseas. You see, i mean, there's the poaching to make money off of, you know, the lions and all this shit that gets poached.
00:47:12
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But at the same time, it's not a,
00:47:17
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Like the black rhinoceros, that's a prime example. They were poached to extinction in the wild. In no way was that sustainable. No. And that's the thing. That's where it comes back into the greed.
00:47:32
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So I'm actually glad you mentioned that, Wally, brother. i So as many species that have gone either extinct or functionally extinct, imagine the world that we would have had With all the species that have already gone extinct already having, well, let's say if we go back in time a little bit, the ecosystem that we would have is totally different if we had all the species that, course, hadn't gone extinct.
00:47:59
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Right. Well, and the thing of it is, is we're we're the the humans are at a lot of the cause for it.
00:48:08
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And some of the things is is a lot of the native back to the Everglades, a lot of the native species that they're losing down there is because of that hurricane and they' irrespons and irresponsible people. But a majority of it's from when that hurricane hit that breeding facility.
00:48:25
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boom sweet you know Yes, sir. That shifted the tide of things a lot. Right. Well, but um and then like in South Carolina and stuff, you're no longer allowed to have black and white tegus anymore, which was a common tegu because people were releasing them and they adjusted to live in the wild.
00:48:45
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So now they got a thing where just like Florida with the Burmese and shit, you get paid, get on a list and you get paid to go hunt them and remove them, kill them and remove
Human Impact on Wildlife
00:48:58
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them. Or you can have a facility yourself if you're licensed.
00:49:02
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like a zoo type deal. But majority of the time they're paying because they've gotten so used to adjusting to their habitats that they're overrunning and taking over the local animals that are disappearing.
00:49:19
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I'm seeing, I don't know about you brother, but I'm seeing a pattern with that. Oh yeah. Well, it's the thing people in the, in the reptile community over the years,
00:49:31
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You see a lot of people impulse by, oh, that's a cute little animal, doesn't do the research. And then they realize, oh, fuck, I got a six-foot lizard or eight-foot lizard with tail to, you know, or a big snake and everything else.
00:49:45
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So what do we do? Oh, but instead of trying to sell it or give it to, you know, donate it to somewhere, oh, we're just going to take it and turn it loose. Exactly.
00:49:56
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There's overpopulation for supply and demand. And then to call that out, it's all a sudden haunted to do extinction. There's no happy foreground. No, there's nothing for that.
00:50:07
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Well, that's like just recently. um One of the guys I follow that I sent you the links at Chandler's Wildlife. ah He he just had the Florida of Fish and Wildlife bring him four red tail boas that they caught in the wild that was released.
00:50:22
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that Because people got irresponsible. And one of them was, she was about seven foot long. the Yeah, because he's a licensed keeper and he's got a facility, zoo type deal.
00:50:34
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They gave him the option to take it. But yeah, they found him actually in the wild. That shows you how irresponsible people are in Florida with their animals. Not only there, but other place too.
00:50:47
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I don't think they're a native to there. no they're They're mostly down like in Brazil and everything else is where they're originally from, down in South America.
00:50:57
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daniel have But yeah, it's all over the place. There's even up here in Ohio, man, there's been people's found seen the ah up north during the summer. People found a couple of bald pythons that was released. Somebody just turned loose in a park, in a park.
00:51:16
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Yeah. Yeah. it's just It's just irresponsible. That's what it is. oh Ball pythons, if I'm correct, if you have had them, of course, bred generations in captivity, they're going to forget how to hunt on their own, yeah?
00:51:32
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No. They're actual natural instincts. open Those things, they're just like anything else. Yes, they may be bred over years and years and years, but But they still have that mentality. There's still that switch in their head that they can hunt.
00:51:51
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But it's not as it progressive it's not as progressive and like it is in the wild. But it's still there's that instinct in all these animals' heads.
00:52:04
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Just like dogs. You ever notice? They travel in packs if they're strays. That's part of the wolf nature. That's where dogs came from. And that's over years and years, but yet they still know to travel in packs.
00:52:20
Speaker
Snakes and snakes and shit are the same way. Lizards are the same way. You're going to survive. Just like with cats. Motherfucking people letting their damn cats out because they don't want them no more because they won't get them declawed and stuff.
00:52:33
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They're another one that's hurting the ecosystem. yeah have time Half the time they just kill birds and shit just because they want to. Yeah, right. But every animal still has the natural instinct from over the history of their and they're genus that's out there.
00:52:54
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it's all It's always going to be there.
00:52:59
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Interesting with that. No matter how much we try to domesticate something, it still has the truth. It's still got the wild in them. It does not matter what it is.
00:53:10
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I'm amazed when I see people... Well, once again, doing the the selective breeding and thing for, let's say, for mentality part, that's where I've come to understand it on that point. It's like, good I don't get what you're trying to achieve here. It's always going be what it what it was.
00:53:28
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Yeah, it's always, it's just one of those deals. we have learned to profit off of this as humans. So we make take something that's normal make it add some pretty colors because you're adding this gene or that gene or this and that.
00:53:48
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and But no matter how many years, whatever down the road, they're always going to have that instinct. It doesn't matter how, if you've had something for 27 years and it's docile, all it takes is one thing to trigger that memory of the wild.
00:54:05
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And it's going to do that. Like defensive mechanisms, the striking out, The biting. Shit like that man. it's That's part of nature no matter what. If I may. Yeah go ahead. ah To an extent.
00:54:21
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If we look at certain. Uncharted tribes and things like that. Humans. almost Built up species of all. Can be like that. If you put them out in the middle of a nowhere for long enough.
00:54:32
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Right. You learn to survive. But just a natural instinct. natural instinct, the animal kingdom is truly the dominant kingdom in everything.
00:54:46
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It don't matter, like you said, domesticated or not, they're always going to have that genus of that nature of the wild still intact in their brain. right it may not be It may not be the main focus up here, but it's still back here in the back.
00:55:04
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and and And it doesn't matter what it is.
00:55:11
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Interesting. It goes to shows this ah well society, if we even include animals in that society as a whole, on progression versus just tailoring.
00:55:23
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Right. Basically, all we're doing is calming the situation by domesticating it. Other than that, it's always there.
00:55:34
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It doesn't matter. Like I said, stray dogs all make a pack. You always got that one alpha. It doesn't matter what it is. You see it all the time, especially out in the country.
00:55:46
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They always run four or five deep, if not more. If you let them in that setting long enough, they'll return right to being feral. Yep. Yeah, and I mean, that's the thing. That's just that's that wolf pack mentality.
00:56:02
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The coyote mentality, but it all comes from the wolves on the dog side.
00:56:10
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But yeah, yeah i mean that and that and I mean, that's the thing that's neat about the animal kingdom. and Like you said, it it don't matter how domesticated you make the animals, they're always going to have it. And I don't care.
00:56:22
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Like in a ball python world, you've got 100 different genes out there now, but they're still going always be like the normals in the wild, still have that instinct of to survive. Absolutely.
00:56:38
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Lizards are the same way. i don't care if you hatch them. I've seen videos of where they've had hatched like the a croc monitors, Nile monitors.
00:56:49
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They still got the mentality of like they are in Asia in the wild, the water monitors. They still got that mentality. they're very intelligent They're very intelligent animals. They're not stupid like people think they are.
00:57:03
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Yeah. So that was actually something that I heard a little bit about lately is that, of course, they're intelligent, but it's come to show that reptiles.
00:57:15
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And this has been a standing um joke, if you will, that reptiles don't have an emotional spectrum. They do. It just works way differently than, let's say, us humans or canines or primates of anything of that emotional spectrum. They have theirs, but it's way different than any of those.
00:57:39
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Theirs is body language. Yes. Especially in the snake world. well oh lizard we yeah Well, reptile-wise, either way, it's body language, head movement, everything.
00:57:53
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like that so i mean we talked about last time but yeah when we were when i was on your up there on your channel we were talking about but yeah it's one of those deals you have to study be be calm let the animal come to you don't force the situation i mean it don't matter what it is bearded dragons corn snakes king snakes all pythons anything They're always going to be defensive. They're not angry. They're defensive because they're scared. That's why you constantly work with them.
00:58:27
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But in the lizard world, when you deal with lizards, you have to have them come to you.
00:58:39
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Like you said, it all goes back to understanding a different spectrum of emotions.
00:58:48
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Right. I mean, that's the thing. that's ah That's what I mean I love about watching new people. My YouTube guys I watch that deals with reptiles and stuff um over in New Hampshire. That Kevin McCurley at Nerd.
00:59:02
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He's known as the water. He's like the animal whisperer of the reptile community, man. He breeds. You need check him out sometime. Dude, the way he is with the Nile monitors. oh Go ahead, Johnny.
00:59:15
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yeah I'm sorry, brother. I'll only be a minute. You're good. Thank you. wait But yeah, the guy, dude, he he is just phenomenal with the way he handles animals.
00:59:26
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um He takes what most people, like I said, fear and everything else, and that or well known to be bitey and everything else and turns them into what he considers puppy dog tame, but at the same time he understands the concept of them and everything else that to make them Semi-docile you want to call it. But they still have that instinct.
00:59:55
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And everything else that me and Johnny were talking about. that They learned to survive.
01:00:06
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Yeah, he's it's called Nerd. New England Reptile Distributor. Kevin McCurley. He's one of my idols. He... Was originally a big, huge ball python breeder.
01:00:19
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Now has gone on to breed Nile and water monitors and stuff and everything to work with them. um
01:00:29
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He's working on all different types of Check out his YouTube channel. It's called Nerd. It's pretty cool. Got a lot of neat information. Very educational.
01:00:40
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But yeah, he he's he's shown me a lot of stuff with animals, the way to handle them and to get them to earn your trust. um That's like Tom Cutchfield, the godfather of the herpiculture side, reptiles, keepers here in the United States.
01:00:59
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When the cap and keeper become become one, then both have won. And this man that man has been bitten multiple times by croc monitors, cobras,
01:01:10
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Different things. It's just where you coexist and work together with them and everything. That helps out. But yeah, there it is. it's It's amazing thing if you can overcome your fear and understanding of these creatures. I mean, you'd be amazed.
01:01:33
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Even if you just observe them from afar, not even keeping them. it's very It's very neat the way Mother Nature does things.
01:01:47
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But yeah, it's it's it's very cool. It can get very expensive, especially depending on what you want and everything else. And the facility, the size of the spaces you want to keep, you've got to have for them.
01:02:01
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um The feeding, all that stuff. But yeah, they're they are very interesting, just like fish. You got all different types, salt water, fresh water, brackish water.
01:02:13
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anything you Anything you do is going to be extensive. It's just what you make of it. Do your homework, study it, check it out and everything else and just understand what you what you're dealing with and make it work. it just It's how much time and effort you want to put into the stuff.
01:02:35
Speaker
To succeed. and And it's not just animals. It's motorsports. It's life in general. I mean, it's just all around one of those deals. Put the time in. you You get what what time you put in is what results you get. And if you don't change it around and stuff, it makes it more difficult.
01:02:54
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So. But, yeah, I mean, it's it's cool. But if you ever want to get into it and need questions, ask. Just ask. And if I don't um know the answer, i cant I got connections. I can get answers for keeping animals or whatever, or even if it's motorsports stuff like on my Monday night show.
01:03:13
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um But, yeah, you got anything else you want to add, Johnny, before we wrap this up, buddy, and call it a night so you can do on your side your show? art I am good. I got to say.
01:03:30
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Thank you once again. It's been been another productive one. yeah Like I said, everybody, welcome to my my co-host on Thursday nights when he's available. I'm going to have Johnny up here with me on this stuff. He's happy to. i appreciate I appreciate everybody that was in the chat tonight talking and asking questions and hanging out with us.
01:03:51
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um ah Tomorrow night is movie night with Michael and friends. Saturday is nonsynical Nonsensical Network where we open the door up and let everybody come in and hang out.
01:04:04
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Just be decent. Keep your clothes on. Sunday is. on Sunday is unnecessary roughness with Rick and Glick. They talk all things foosball and sports. Monday night. I'm back here with you guys with Speedway stories.
01:04:22
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I'm going to hopefully have a former guest. going to get a hold of him. Try to have him up and talk. Uh, See how his race season ended up for him and everything else. I know talking to him on the side, he had some car issues.
01:04:36
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I'm get a hold of him and try to have him come up Monday night. um Hopefully Tuesday night, Glick's got his stuff and in line for Glick's House of Music.
01:04:46
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Then Wednesday night is Michael and Brittany with Hump Day Ha Ha's. And then we're back here Thursday night with Cold-Blooded Conversations with me and Johnny. You guys all have a great evening. Thank you for tuning in. Johnny, once again, brother, thanks for coming up and accepting your surprising you ah on the podcast with becoming my co-host on Thursday nights, dude. I appreciate it. And thank you all for tuning in. You guys have a great evening.
01:05:14
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Johnny, I'll catch you later on, buddy. Catch you next one. Thank you, brother. All right. Yep. Later. Later. Later.
01:05:26
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Yeah, thanks again, guys, for tuning in and everything else. And appreciate y'all. You guys have a great evening, and I'll catch you and catch you monday night.