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Wally introduced his new co-host the one and only Jhonny Bongs!! Of course there was lots of reptile talk as always
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
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What's everybody, it's your boy Wally. How's everybody doing tonight?
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<unk> Welcome to Copeland Conversations. What's up Johnny? Thanks for coming up man. i'm just getting yeah home stuff um Tonight we're got my buddy Johnny on here as a special guest tonight. We're going talk some animals and stuff that we've all had and a few things.
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I also wanted to just let everybody know that Sorry for being on a hiatus, had things going on. Other than that, glad to be back.
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um Been hitting it up with Johnny over on his channel and stuff. You guys need to go check it out and everything. Give him a like and stuff. It's a good time. Thank you.
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Yeah, it's... ah oop
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Hang on a minute. ever My headset's being goofy. yeah
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But yeah, check Johnny out. He does a lot of cool stuff over on his channel. Big up and coming tattoo artists and stuff. Thank you. It was a good time.
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But yeah.
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By chance, we've become pretty good friends because of the network and everything else being on here and on his channel and everything. Good.
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I have loved finding out about the network, man. It's been it's been an awesome kind of an awesome database for a lot of knowledge and good people. Yeah, Saturday night can get a little little out of hand, but that's what that's the bread and butter of this channel, though, man. I mean, we've all got our ups and downs. Saturday is basically the... Everybody gets to come and release and have a good time. Yes, sir.
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Oh, yeah, definitely. So earlier, did you get to work on any more your stuff real quick? I figure since you're up here, maybe you want to share share a little bit with everybody, even though it's not Saturday night, but you're more than welcome to.
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um Show them some of your artwork you've been working on, Bob. I have one kind of standing project that's going to take me a little bit and kind of divide up my attention. For anybody that's seen the series Avatar, I am working around a concept from Avatar. This is the Mask of the Blue Spirit, if anybody knows that character.
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Oh, that's the other one you were telling me you were working on. Okay. Yes, sir. I got half of the line work for the mask down. I've contemplating on doing the other side matching the mask or I should do the other side like his actual face.
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Nice. Sir. Thank you. Yep. Oh, no problem, buddy. any Hey, man. Anything shared, it everybody's got their passions, you know. I've got mine, my motorsports, my reptiles and family.
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Of course, Monday nights is my Speedway stories that I need to get caught back up on with motorsports.
Expanding Animal Discussions
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And tonight, It's cold-blooded conversations. um Normally, I just talk with all things reptiles, but I've decided I'm going to open the channel to all animals. People want to talk about cats, dogs, you know lions, tigers, just different things like that and stuff. so and I know you and me have talked on your channel and stuff about certain things that you've had, like the leopard geckos and stuff like that. but
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It's kind of neat meeting somebody else with a passionate, you know, I wouldn't really think, honestly, ah tattoo artist. Most of them that I know are like snakes and stuff, but not the lizard side of the aspect.
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What's up, Zempheus? How you been, brother? How you been? But yeah, um yeah yeah first thing first thing I would like to share with everybody, too, is that it's kind of hit i'll hit a little home.
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My oldest dog that I have and everything else, just this last week, we found out he's been having seizures and stuff. and We've got some, got him into the vet, got some medicine for him. Been dealing with that and trying to get, he's 13 years old. What's up, Benji? Hey, thanks for the pictures for that vet, brother. That's going to be a badass, man.
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ah But yeah, it's different. I've been around humans having seizures and stuff. I had a good, good friend of mine. I lost two, two of the seizures because the people you're staying with didn't know how to handle it. But it's my first time ever having it with animals.
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It's definitely a different game. course. and Change of plans? What you getting now? But, yeah, it was – oh, you're getting it to – oh, heck, yeah, dude.
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So you're not going to get it sooner than you thought. Yeah, Benji is the one I was telling you about. got that mid-engine vet and stuff, Johnny, today that he sent me the pictures of. Yeah, this is my dude that's into the formula racing. I've had him up on the my Speedway stories a couple of times. and We've talked
Leopard Geckos: Breeding and Care
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racing and stuff. Good to see you, Benji.
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You need to go over. and He don't do much on his YouTube channel, but he shares some videos of his dogs and couple of hockey games from the Carolinas, hurricanes and stuff here recently.
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But he's he's big he's a big formula racing guy. He's my dude on Monday nights when it comes to keeping me updated on that stuff when I don't. ah but you know i it's the But yeah, went back to what we're saying, it's definitely different on the animal side of that part of the ordeal with the disorient and everything else. It's harder for him to come back to two a little bit. takes a little longer.
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But yeah, other than that,
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Yeah, you should, bud, especially being down where you're at. That is where a lot of the hot rods are besides Florida and stuff like that, man. um The car shows are huge down in South Carolina and stuff like that.
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You definitely need to. Nice.
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But, yeah, so now that I got that out of the way, mr Johnny. you were you meet You and me have talked on your show. We've got some of our interest and in what we keep reptile-wise. Yes, sir. Why don't you tell the audience ah what you used to get into there for a while and everything else, if you don't mind.
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The floor is all yours, bud. Thank you. So I, for a time, was breeding leopard geckos and the getting into it itself – came about kind of on accident but once i got into it i really started to love what could be done so i started with two and they were as basic pattern as could be but then i found out male and a female so of course they had a couple clutches of eggs um and from those
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the patterns that came out of those were even more beautiful. They had both, of course, traits from the mother and the father. So I've begun to do a little bit of research and digging around into how that all worked and different morphs that really came out of that. People did, well, how I think the term is recessive.
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um Recessive genes, just like in ball pythons, like I told you, they they start out as a recessive and then just multiple over time it's just same with what the geckos so sorry yes sir no thank you um so i thought out about that and i of course i got me a couple more from just some different patterns and it really took off from there i wanted to keep that same general pattern with the mother and father originally that i had but i really wanted to see what i could do else with
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that generation and on forth to keep that pattern, but see how far it could go. And dude, mother nature is a beautiful thing.
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Oh yeah. Oh yes, sir. They sure are. i mean go ahead.
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I'm just looking up something here. Sorry. No, I, uh, I honestly at first thought it could only be done with ball pythons. As some of y'all probably know with the ah jack-o'-lanterns and smiley faces on the ball pythons. I thought it could only be done with those.
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So when I begun to see the possibilities with leopard geckos, of course, I got me a couple more and a couple more, and it it took off from there. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, it's ah it's one of those hobbies that it can get get you real quick and get real expensive real fast. Oh, indeed. Indeed.
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yeah I will say up first and foremost about as far as bedding and substrate, I was using sand in the beginning. I learned very quickly i no go for sand. They were swallowing it, a couple of them, and after like two demises, I learned that it's just it's not okay. They swallow the sand and it packs in their gut.
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Right, yeah, for them, bearded dragons, there's there's a lot of them, and it's that way. um There is, like I was telling you when I've talked to you on your on your show when I've jumped up, when we were talking about them.
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Yes, sir. believe believeberr Believe it or not, most the leopard geckos are in like a kind of a mossy, dry dirt, not sand. Yes.
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which is Which is different, you know, that you wouldn't think.
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That was my first learning hurdle. its
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Here's something for you. I follow that. It's a page that I've app. I follow it's morph market. It's like deals and reptiles and selling and stuff with breeders all over the world.
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Here's the most expensive, most expensive ball python. I just found that's here in the United States.
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Oh, My goodness. Yeah, it's called a Sunset Ultra Male. I follow a lot of the breeders on YouTube and their stuff that um that they do and everything else. that A lot of them spent like 20-some years, 30 years just to ah get to the genes where they're at, starting with your your note normal ball pythons that originally...
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Came from Africa, which is cool.
Ball Pythons and Reptile Concerns
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um One of the guys I followed did a story. It's called Dave Kaufman's Reptile Adventures. He actually did a documentary over in Africa on the by ball pythons in the wild.
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You'll have to check it out. I'll have to send you the link to them. um But, yeah, they all – they've actually found – um Your albinos, the yellow and whites, they've actually found them in a couple in the wild, I guess, that he shows in that video that naturally produced over time instead of just being bred by um breeders and everything else. It was pretty sweet.
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Beautiful. I would love to see some comparisons. Oh, yeah, dude. these I'll send you a bunch of – now that we can communicate through phone besides being on our shows,
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I'll send you some links for your channels to check out, dude. that the it's very good brotherlic we are have It's been a good night so far.
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Good to hear. But yeah, I'll definitely get you hooked up on it. Yeah, and with the leopard geckos, the way they're getting now, man, there's so many different...
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There's even all whites now that I've been seeing now. You can get an all white with no orange or just black dots and stuff. That's how far the games come in the breeding aspect.
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I'm going to get to that white one. If I remember correctly, they had to start with some more called creamsicles. And they were the white and the orange. Yep.
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Oh, yeah. Bright and bright. And I mean, they were bright, the white and orange with a little bit of the black, or they were all orange with the white tips on their tails or their face. It's pretty bad. it I thought they were beautiful.
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The only part I don't like about leopard geckos, and just like crusties, leopard geckos will grow their tails back, but crested geckos get what they call the frog butt. They don't even grow them back.
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They just get the little points where it fell off. yall But yeah. But it's a defense mechanism and for them. So when they're in the wild, they want to get away. i mean, that's.
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Now, I learned something about that. And you can tell me if you know otherwise. But as far as the leopard geckos, their nutrients, a lot of the nutrients are stored in the tail. So once they lose their tail, they kind of have a hard time with that.
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Yes, it is the truth. It is actually a storage. That's how you know you got to. They say, you know, you got a healthy gecko. by the size of their tail. yeah Especially in the leopard geckos.
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yeah yeah They store the store a lot of their food and stuff in there just because they're ah used to the droughts and everything else, you know, going without food or whatever.
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Yeah.
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See.
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There, no, was letting you go ahead, back to you. Oh, I was just going to say back to when my Malwin died there. I can't stress the whole Sam thing enough. is it That was immediately a learning curve for me.
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It's what made me realize that it was not a healthy substrate at all for them. The second he got in patching, his eyes swelled shut, and he got sick, and he died. Yeah, well, that's like mine. a lot of people, the only bad part is a lot of people use like the yeah that reptile carpet.
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I mean, it's a good thing, but got to either constantly clean it very well. Yes. And it... What did Brittany say? Bought another one to try and hide the fact that we thought the other one died.
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Yeah, they can when they get out, they like to hide. They like dark spaces. they're not limouth People don't realize they're actually pretty much a diurnal. they're more active during the night, but they do come out during the day too, but they're more active at nighttime.
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Oh, for sure. But my leopard, I keep them on the crushed walnuts and I haven't had a problem. um That I heard a lot of good things about. I did.
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I've yeah, so far I haven't had any problem now. I got one of my beardies. He's on the crushed walnut. The other one's on the green carpet because that's what he came with. And I just never changed it around, but he's been on green carpet all of his life. So I'm not going to try to stress them out by changing something around for him. You know what i mean?
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But yeah, the leopards they use, they use that. And, uh,
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there's just all unique setups, but the it's harder to keep like a bioactive setup and everything for them because of the upkeep.
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So, but yeah, but yeah, ah most common you see in pet stores, they're on that damn reptile carpet. And the only downfall with reptile carpet is, is it,
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holds a lot of moisture, gets a lot of bad bacteria in it and can cause, cause issues with anything. I mean, you see them with the snakes all the time. It pisses me off or they use ball pythons. They need humidity and shit and they're keeping them with a cypress shit, like a straw deal. How you supposed to keep humidity up with, you know what I mean?
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They have to have at least 90% humidity damn near for them Well, pythons like to burrow a little bit, don't they? Yes. they actually They're actually in the wild found in the fire ant mounds.
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Oh. Yes. I didn't know that. They go in the like the rat holes, everything else. Oh, yeah, it does, Brittany.
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i That I will agree. Yes. Seeing them in a lot of the pet store, big change pet stores, it does piss you off. Trust me. It does. But a lot of them, there's some of them though, they actually try to mimic our natural habitats, you know, as much as they can.
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But at the same time, most pet stores don't keep the animals a lot, but still it's neglect in my opinion. A short note about that that, I'm sure some of y'all have seen some of the dumpster diving videos on YouTube, right? As far as like a popularity fad. Oh, yeah.
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Somebody did that behind a Petco. And dude, they found alive reptiles in boxes. Yeah. Fish. They found fish. Especially there's a guy I follow that's in Florida. That's what he does is goes dumpster diving at the pets, these big chain chain pet stores.
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He said, yeah and the shit he's pulled out, I couldn't believe. He found one episode I watched, a red-tailed boa, ah a a bearded dragon, a ball python, and then four leopard geckos all inside boxes and shit in bags because they couldn't sell them.
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And these are big chain corporates, and I'll throw them out there. Petco, PetSmart, you name them They're just there. All they care about is the money. yeah even There's no way to, like, donate them to a vet to have the vet maybe put them out for adoption.
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I don't know. No, they don't. it just It's just the way they – that's the big corporate for you, buddy. It's just like us.
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You know, you work for a big factory or whatever else like that. You're just a number to them. You're you're disposable at any time that they feel like. so
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But, yeah, there's a lot of the guys that, like I said, most of my channels I follow are all reptile channels. And I think you'd like a lot of them, man. i'll sit Like I said, I'll send you i send you links for them through text and stuff.
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and Check them out and stuff on you They're pretty cool I've learned a lot from them from over the years so One of the things wally brother I don't think I get to mention to you yet is Growing up My uncle
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my uncle yeahi He lived at my ah grandma's on and off, and I was up there all the time. It was like second home for me. And he always, in the garage that she had, he always had a terrarium project that he was working on. And I mean actually finding going out in the woods, finding actual plants, actual ecosystem, to make sure that this whole, everything in this tank was just a whole ecosystem in there.
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Yep, doing the bioactive. got to yeah It's pretty neat that they do. I mean, he's actually the one that I found out that New York has an endangered species of tree frog that we have here.
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Yep. I didn't know that before I found that. He found two of them that he had in his tank. They were awesome. Brittany's got it right. Yeah, fish are actually one of the worst ones about getting it.
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They really are. they're they'
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They're not properly taken care of. They're constantly, wherever they get them from or the... The supplier or even the pet store that gets them. Everyone.
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Every one of them. i i've Most of them I've seen. They've always got ick or something going on inside their tanks. It's always something like that.
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It's been like that since the carnival days. Back when they were trying to sell them inside of bags. They still do that. Oh, man. Yeah, they they still do the goldfish like that in a lot of the fairs and shit still around, especially my part.
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You'll still get some of those where the games are and it's you win the goldfish or betta fish are the worst. Goldfish used to be the thing and then they bumped up to the betta fish all because they're cuffed.
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Oh, yeah. Yep, they definitely do. Yeah. i've had I've had it all across the board, fish, everything else. Main thing with fish are fresh water.
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and But they, ah depending too on your watering system, how you got to keep control of the bleach, the chlorine, like my area.
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Yes. i I inherited a hey babe, how long ago was it that we had those piranhas?
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I inherited the, we inherited ah three piranhas from my buddy that used to live next door to me. He had them from since they were babies. um oh One day did a water change and everything else and found out this.
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Yeah, we had them about five years ago. How long did we lose them?
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It's been what, two years? But no, we did a I did a water change, did everything, water tested fine. Next day they were dead. smelt bleach Smelt bleach in the water because they bleached the watering system in the city, my city water.
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And you could literally, a no joke, me and my son could literally stick our hands in there and pet the damn things and not have to worry about nothing. We used to, yeah, you could hand feed them and shit. That's how well they were.
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Yeah. But yeah, one morning I woke up, they were they were as white as a sheet. Just for the next day after 24-hour water change, man, they were gone. Were they black piranhas or red bellies?
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Red bellies. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yep. yeah And the thing is, is we were actually working on getting a bigger setup for them not too long later on, and then that ended up happening.
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Oh, man. And like I said, the water tested fine. We had the test strips, did the water treatment for everything. Next morning, they were pale as all get out out of the blue.
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My Playco was barely alive. We had a Playco that was every bit, I mean, like that. He was about that big around that came with him. They never fucked with him. But yeah, you could stick your hand, literally.
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and We'll see you later on. See you, Brittany. But yeah they ah yeah, we could literally stick your hand in there and everything, man. they wouldn't I did it even with cuts on my hand and shit and figured, I'm like, yeah, I'm
Aquatic Life: Piranhas to Stingrays
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a dumbass.
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Never did nothing. Huh. I never knew. But they say at least the minimum of three. You cannot keep no less than three together with because they're a school fish.
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Yep. So... Yeah, I mean, it I'd like to... give Eventually, down the road, I'll get more, but it... Just... Things has got to fall in place, so... But, yeah, we had them for a while.
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But he had them for babies, and hed yeah he'd feed them. And it was neat watching them eat the feeder fish. They'd freaking look like vacuum cleaners, just... bomb Sucking them up when you fed them.
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Nice. Now, I got a question about them. um Now, Blackwater, you know much about the the Blackwater tanks?
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Those are kind of new to me because you can have them set up. They call them the Black River tanks.
00:25:22
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It's basically copying of the Blackwaters of parts of the Amazon, I guess. yeah And people are doing where it's the everything's natural. You got the natural trees in there, natural live plants.
00:25:35
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um I've seen some of that stuff and everything. Man, that's another one of those. It's like a 24-hour upkeep kind of deal because you've got to make sure everything's pristine.
00:25:49
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yeah I asked because I thought piranhas weren't one of the blackwater species. They are, but they can also be the freshwater species just where it's clear too. but they they're most common They're most commonly though found in the black waters down there and everything. So I, I found a really, uh, well, a simpler recipe to, uh, to make the whole black water system, uh, system leaf litter.
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moving It's the most common thing to use because it, ah it, uh, naturally breaks it down and everything else like it does in the wild.
00:26:28
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Nice. You can actually do that with a lot of your other fish too, I guess, that because it helps put more oxygen in the tank and clears out a lot of the chemicals that you get from... i wish I would have known sonar or would have started dropping leaflet or buying it and putting it in there. Maybe they'd still be around. Hell yeah. Shit, I didn't know what benefits it had.
00:26:52
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Right. Well, and you got to think too, with that debris breaking down... the The Placos, which everybody usually calls algae eaters, they eat all that stuff off the ground besides their own shit. they I mean, what do you think they survive off in the wild, you know?
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It's mostly scavenging, Hell he yeah Nice. Oh, yeah. well The Placos, I've actually seen them get quite big.
00:27:23
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They're actually an invasive species in Florida. There's some pictures of them in Florida. there They're freaking like giant. Their heads are like this fucking big and shit. I've seen pictures before. They can sit dry out.
00:27:36
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They can sit dry out of the water and they won't die. no That blew my mind, man. Oh, yeah. They're neat because now they've got it too. Just like with our reptiles, they got different colors and different things.
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style. Oh, yeah. Really? Yep. Yeah, you can get an albino placo. You can get a what looks almost like a caramel. You can get an albino. I mean, black as could be. No dots, nothing. He's straight black.
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they've They've got silver ones. Zebra stripes. I mean, it's crazy the different different types they got now with that. Oh, yeah. Just like just like the becoming popular in the fish game is the freshwater stingrays.
00:28:27
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I've only heard a little bit about those, but nonetheless, it sounds like a cool concept. They're neat. I mean, it's kind of cool seeing them. I am one of the channels I follow is called a predatory fence.
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He actually, he's in New York now moved from Florida to New York. Nice. Yeah. So, and he specializes in, uh,
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All the different tropical fish, everything else from China, the Amazon that theyre that they're allowed to bring in and everything. And he's got a lot of different freshwater stuff that he has. and It's pretty cool.
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oh like fifteen seen a di yo yep I just seen a ah thing here on Google about the freshwater rays. Interesting. Yeah, they're pretty sweet.
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Nice.
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wow Oh yeah, dude. it's It's pretty cool, man, that they have
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on there. Minimum. That's a minimum that they know of. Wow. Nice.
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It kind of sounds a little bit simpler to the Morphful thing.
00:29:44
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It is. They found a way to get them to do It's crazy the different styles of fish now you can get. Just like the different styles of catfish now is insane.
00:29:57
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Indeed. My favorite's the red belly. ah the The black white with the red bellies, they get huge. Yeah, those are those are one of my favorites.
00:30:09
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But you gotta have a giant ass pond for those things as big as they get. Oh, for sure. I've seen them get ginormous. Mm-hmm. Especially if they're from you.
00:30:20
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Oh, yeah. Go see that stuff. Go to Florida. They've got a lot of invasives down there and shit. People don't want to be... People don't like being responsible. They buy this cute little animal and then let's turn them loose.
00:30:35
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You know, we're... Somebody actually tried doing that right up from where I grew up. ah My grandmother grew up kind of in the woods, like literally just off-grid.
00:30:46
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We had a bunch of ponds on our property. And there was a large one up the road from our house somebody tried doing that with.
00:30:54
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yeah can Well, that's like, too, the whole invasive thing with the Burmese pythons down in Florida. lot of people don't realize that started actually, yes, there was some irresponsible people, but overnight, one of the hurricanes that went through down there real bad, I think it was Andrew,
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I actually hit a facility that was breeding them for pets, and a lot of them got loose. and But most of the shit's irresponsible people.
00:31:29
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That's like tegus. Black and white tegus are banned in South Carolina and a few other states because people let them go. Some of those species, once you do let it go into an ecosystem that it's that's not needed to, it just decimates the whole ecosystem that it's in.
00:31:45
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yeahp And that's the problem with the Everglades is the Burmese and all these other ones, they're they're just taking it over and it makes it hard. The Everglades is turning into the Amazon real quick.
00:31:57
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Oh, yeah. alone let alone ah us humans destroying the habitats for everything, too. We let a bunch of new species into it and then we decimate the population of the habitat itself.
00:32:11
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Yep, and then bitch because they're coming into our yards. Well, duh, you're building into their home. Yep. So, yeah, um so some of your – since we're into this, so what's some of your favorite reptiles that – I mean that draws your interest besides leopard geckos and stuff, Johnny?
00:32:35
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So – I have been huge about, well, of course, geckos. There have been the ball pythons, right?
00:32:47
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I have, of course, seen the smaller versions of them that people keep as fucking pets. But I've forever been trying to figure out the similarities between those.
00:32:57
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And, of course, the ones that you see out in the wild that look like they have the same markings, only the 10-time figure. Um, basically what it is with your ball pythons on that aspect, the average length and it's mostly the females are about five, five and a half foot, six foot maybe. And that's just blind luck. Normally they're no bigger than about four and a half foot. I actually have one that's about four foot long.
00:33:26
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She's a big old girl. Oh yeah. She was a, she's one of my rescues that we were given and shit and, She's a big girl. I'm the only one that really handles her. See, that's the other thing I've seen about them that really impresses me is their temperament.
00:33:44
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People can hold them, and they're just friendly as can be, some of them, depending on their temperament.
Understanding and Handling Snakes
00:33:49
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Well, what it break breaks down to, it's like any anything in general. The more time you spend with it, even with the temperament, it don't matter. They've still got that wild trigger in their head.
00:34:01
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course. But the more you work with them, the more handleable and more they kind of stay. But at the same time, you've got to learn the body language, just like with people.
00:34:13
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You've just got to watch certain things the way they do. Like any snake or anything else, they S up. You know they're going to strike. It's a defensive posture. They're just like, leave me the fuck alone.
00:34:27
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Right. Now – I've seen some cases about that a while back where some some handlers, um one case had them actually had a showing, and the snake was showing all sorts of signs that it was hostile, didn't want to be held. It was doing everything in its last resort to bite somebody until it did.
00:34:46
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And that's like they're completely shocked when it finally did bite somebody. Like ah even I as an amateur was watching this snake and it was showing signs of crying away. Just not throwing interest in people, backing away from people. And they kept pushing other people.
00:35:02
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Oh, yeah. Well, there's a guy that, ah I mean, I love his channel just because of what he has. He's out of California. It's the reptile zoo. um He breeds Burmese and everything and retics and stuff.
00:35:16
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I think on purpose when he pulls the eggs from a lot of the mothers, I know they're defensive and everything else, but he also has a snake hook that he's constantly like prodding and pushing, and and i don't appreciate you know doing that. and a lot of people Oh, yeah. And then they wonder and they they strike out, but he does it for – he's one of those – Those ones that it's kind of like YouTube views, I think.
00:35:41
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So I don't really watch his channel anymore because of that shit. And he does it with all of his animals. So, hey, Mandy, what's happening? But yeah, they but yeah, it's like he provokes the fuckers just to get a reaction because I've watched other channels that breed these animals and they don't have that problem.
00:36:02
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Right. You know what I mean? theyre Yes, they get they do the whole body bump shit and everything else and and everything. Oh, yeah, they'll do a body bump. They'll literally take the center of their body and start moving their body to knock your hand away. But if you get them in the center and support them, even taking eggs out, this other channel that I follow, um it's called Nerd.
00:36:27
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Kevin McCurley, he's out of New Hampshire, right? And he's got a big facility. watched him a lot. None of his snakes does what it does on that other channel.
00:36:40
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Literally pulling eggs. they'll They'll strike once, but he's got it where it's set up where he can get them. Once he gets a hold of them and gets them loose, they don't they don't strike like they do like on this other channel does, man. and It's insane to see.
00:36:58
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It's
00:37:01
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It's the way the handler handles the the animal. one of my One of my idols, Tom Crutchfield, like he says, the the keep and the keeper become one when the keeper understands the kept.
00:37:18
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And I mean, that's one of his big things. This guy deals with king cobras, k croc monitors, you name it. he's He was honestly... what we called the reptile pirate back in the 70s and stuff.
00:37:34
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He's done some time in jail for a and smuggling in illegal animals for a long time. That's now in our reptile hobby. that hes He's one of the originals.
00:37:45
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But like he said, yeah it's basically it's a respect thing. the keep The cap and the keeper have to become one and trust each other. If you don't have it, you ain't going to have the respect of that animal.
00:37:58
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And I mean, he's... And he plays around with some some gnarly ass animals, dude. so It's like that double standard of watching the same thing, right? Somebody can watch somebody handling a snake, and they can sit there and watch them stare at it and be like okay, that looks easy enough. Then there's the other person that's sitting there watching and be like, no, they're literally studying that snake. They're studying its movement. They have eye-to-eye contact. Yep. They're right there on that level with it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:24
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That's where it comes back to you'll watch the body movements. Watch just, and that's like lizards and everything. It doesn't matter. Dogs, whatever. If they don't like somebody, they're going to let you know. It's not, no bullshit. I mean, I don't care who you are. Just like dogs. Dogs will tell you if they don't like the person.
00:38:45
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If they never warm up to somebody, you know it's a bad deal. Even one of my leopard geckos, my ah the male that I had was like that a lot. He used to get very testy. And I could tell because he'd start flickering his tail and he would tense up. And I just wouldn't touch him. I wouldn't fuck with him. He'd be kept alone. He'd be in his cave and I'd let him be.
00:39:04
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Yep. That's what they do. But yeah, it's just like the head. it Just the body language snakes. All you do is watch the body movement and head movement. And that's on any of them. That's constrictors. That's on venomous.
00:39:18
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Venomous is just a different ball game. That there is – that's dancing with the devil. I mean, they're amazing animals. Mad kudos to the keepers that keep them.
00:39:31
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I mean, I follow a lot of guys that keep some amazing, amazing snakes. But, yeah, i I'll stick with my ball pythons and shit like that. You take your life in your own hands every time you open a cage.
00:39:45
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Yep. Oh, yeah. It's one of those deals. It's one of those deals. You could have five great days in that one day. You get that one that one time. It's not in a mood. It's in a mood, and it could cost you your life playing with those venomous snakes, man.
00:40:04
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Yes. I mean, I... how do i so how do i um explain here. um I actually dealt with some wild ones in this case. When I was down south in North Carolina, we had shit ton, I mean an infestation of copperheads in our property.
00:40:28
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Oh yeah. You smelt cucumbers, didn't you? peter Oh man. that was And those are actually good beginner snakes. They're not...
00:40:40
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But still, it's it's a common thing. With them, though, I've seen and read that their venom could be just like if you're allergic to bee stings, could kill you because it's almost as just that way.
00:40:56
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one of their One of their venom is what ultimately took my dog out. It can, yeah. Unfortunately. I grew up with that dog. I lived with that dog. And after she got bit, sure, she survived the initial bite, but it it shaved the greater parts of her ears off her life.
00:41:15
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, but yeah, with the Copperheads, I mean, if it's treated in time, it's one of the more common ordeals that are the anti-venoms regularly out there, just like with certain rattlesnakes and stuff. I mean, that's my favorite venomous is the any of the rattlesnakes that we have.
00:41:36
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the I love those. They're they're gorgeous. And it's Mother Nature's Devil and Warning Symbol. They're the only animal that has that tells you, leave me the fuck alone because they rattle their tail.
00:41:50
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Now, with that, right um we had a creek creek on our property that was full of them. i mean You could see burrow holes all down the creek when the water receded. um couple hundred of them on the property.
00:42:04
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You had water moccasins and copperheads because they all stay around the – they're ah cotton mouses, everybody calls them, but they're actually water moccasins. They're pretty neat. There are other ones that are not commonly kept, but they're – snakes like that and stuff are – they're neat to see from afar or if you've got the proper equipment if you're out looking for them, like snake hooks and stuff.
00:42:28
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But other than other than that, like I said, mad kudos to the people that keep them. Because they want to. And they enjoy them. oh and Some of them keep them for for research. For anti-venom out there.
00:42:42
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But yeah. they they they They pique my interest. Oh for sure. i mean. After that. i ah I didn't keep any of them. But I as far always went as far as to train myself. On how to remove them from my property safely.
00:43:00
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Yep. And I don't care. and the And the big thing of it is, is a lot of people, they fear snakes and reptiles. Most of them can't tell you why they do.
Media Influence on Snake Fear
00:43:12
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But 90% of the ones I know, the only reason they don't like certain animals is because they've seen it in a Hollywood movie. Because they're portrayed as as what it is instead of what Mother Nature intended them for to be.
00:43:29
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Right. Right. Now, Mother Nature plays by its its set rules, right? It can be unpredictable just as much as it can be predictable. Mm-hmm.
00:43:41
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Oh, yeah. it's It's interesting the way they are. Well, what I'm getting at is what Hollywood's going to, you know, theorize those things should be. Is nine times out of ten going to be off the beaten mark from what Mother Nature intends?
00:43:57
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Prime example of a movie that, for especially since we're talking snakes, the Anaconda movies. Yeah. That is blown out of proportion.
00:44:09
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but that is and That is one of the ones that makes the fear of snakes. I mean, I get it. But instead of doing shit and getting rid of it properly, I've seen so many killed and everything else.
00:44:24
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That's like these stupid-ass rattlesnake roundups they do in Texas. Dude, that pisses me off more than anything.
00:44:34
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You're publicizing an event with a snake that has its own respective temperament, and when you act stupid around it, it's going to cause... Sure, it's going to cause a great number of deaths, but if you're smart with it...
00:44:46
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but yet But yet then they complained they complain because they got a rat problem. They got this problem, that problem. Yeah, you're taking the number one source of getting rid of your rodent problem out because you want entertainment and the try to show your manhood. You know what i mean?
00:45:04
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Entertainment that you don't have proper training on how to deal with. You have commercialized training, but that's not – that's not. and that's And even
Rattlesnake Roundups Critique
00:45:12
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then it's not. a They go to these dens and everything else and gather up everything that's in there, don't matter what it is, and throw them in a giant tent. Yeah. It's stupid, man. It is. it's You're stressing the animal out. You're provoking it to do something stupid.
00:45:32
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Just so you can kill it. Just and so you can make money off of the skin and stupid shit like that. That's the only reason they do it. Don't get me wrong. I like the patterns on them and everything, but I'm the type person that's going to appreciate that from nature. I don't want to put it on a fucking belt.
00:45:48
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Yeah, a belt or a pair of boots. or there's I've seen pictures and stuff where they've actually had the heads where they've mounted them with their fangs out and everything else.
00:45:58
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I used to think that was kind of cool when I was a little kid, and then I started realizing what they were doing, and it's like, that ain't right. No, we're using Mother Nature as a novelty at that point.
00:46:11
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that's why can't we go Why can't we do that with shitty people and have a roundup like that? but's right But it's illegal to do that, but it's legal to do something like that with you know that's been on this earth longer than we've been been here.
00:46:27
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We're sharing a commercialized Mother Nature. I'm not justifying it by saying that. I'm just saying what it is. It's the truth. and it is you're You're right. You're hitting it right on the head, man. But yeah, they this that is one of the most despicable things that I see all the time.
00:46:43
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um I get over in third world countries, shit like that. They actually use it for food, everything else, but still, it just kind of it's kind of upsetting.
00:46:54
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But it is what it is over there. That's their way of life. But over here, we know better. Right. There's a very fine line to way of life, but then...
00:47:07
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commercialized way of life, right?
00:47:10
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I'll be honest with you. I have had rattlesnake before. There was a guy that here in my town used to have a concession stand. He had rattlesnake, alligator. um He did a kind of an exotic animal like meats and shit, but I've had it and But yeah, then I found out later on as I got older where it was coming from, and it's like, yeah, I can't support something like that no more. Gator, I can – in a way, it's still inhumane, but at the same time, control population.
00:47:42
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Rattlesnakes, they're not overpopulated like everybody thinks they are. Right. Right. If something is decimating the population because of how many numbers it has, then all right, maybe call it back its numbers a little bit and enjoy the meat from what you have.
00:47:58
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But don't decimate that population, because that population in the end was doing a favor to Mother Nature. Yeah, all you're doing is providing the rodents more freedom to destroy your shit. Right. Going to come after your crops next.
00:48:15
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Yeah. you know Your crops in your house. taking over your house and everything else. Oh, dude. The rodent nests and shit can destroy electrical. It can destroy the insides of houses. Insulation. Where I continue?
00:48:31
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Alrighty, I'll be right back. you sir Give me a quick moment as well. I'm going to re-up my copy.
00:48:55
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Thank you.
00:49:19
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00:49:43
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00:49:46
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Brad, I just saw that. Thank you. Appreciate it I cleaned up a little bit tonight.
00:49:55
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So if you could go, okay, now i' got another question. So if you could go and now if start all over again in the in ah in the reptile hobby, what other species would you keep besides the bald python and leopard geckos if you could do it all over again?
00:50:13
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Or do continue on with either one? What would be your next like species or would pique your interest to have?
Fascination with Amphibians
00:50:21
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yeah um Okay, so this probably bores a little bit from reptile to amphibian, but Pac-Man frogs.
00:50:28
Speaker
Ooh, yeah, that'd be badass. Yeah, love them. What piqued my interest with them until from the start is the fact they literally have a set of fangs right in the center of their mouth. Oh, yeah, that's right. They do, don't they?
00:50:42
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Yeah, that that that's a way. And I've even seen these things draw blood before. the pacific No kidding. Oh, yeah. So and that's and that's another one that they've got multiple different colors of now instead of just your normal.
00:50:59
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Yes. The one thing that struck my fancy about it is the the red. I can't remember what the morph it is, but there's one with this distinct stripes of red in it, dude. It's beautiful.
00:51:12
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but I've seen those. yeah I like the albinos. The orange and whites with the red eyes that you can get of them. Those are pretty sweet looking. I've seen those. My local pet store, it's actually local that's not a corporate deal. They've had some of them and they're pretty cool to look at.
00:51:30
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I mean, for an animal, the only time you see them move usually when you feed them. Other than that, they're just a like a piece of art just sitting there in the tank where you can watch them.
00:51:42
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they They chill out. They don't really move much. If they do, they burrow. Yeah, it that's pretty cool. Oh, yeah.
00:51:54
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what else would you What else would you do besides those and You got any others that you would get you to pique your interest? I mean, it they don't have to be just reptiles, amphibians. I mean, we can talk, like I said, it's open anything animal wise. And if, if you had the facility or the area to do, um, hit me with whatever.
00:52:20
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dude. I, I love the reptiles and amphibians. So I've, I've grown up with a thing for that. Like, uh, how do I say Even starting out when I was, you know, like five years old.
00:52:32
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know, going back to my grandmother, she lived out like directly out in the woods, so really far from like the town and shit. So I would go up there and stay for weeks at a time and just spend my time out in the woods.
00:52:47
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I would go out in the woods. I would spend my time building these ecosystems in like 50 gallon tanks. I loved it. Loved it. I mean, overall, I would love to do that again.
00:53:02
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See, that's something else. I mean, there's – and trying to get the younger generation in on this that doesn't involve video games to do shit like that, to get out, like where we could go out and run the cricks, run the woods, see all different see all the different stuff, you know.
00:53:22
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um it's but it's getting to like back to where i said we're taking over everything so it's getting harder to see this stuff in a lot of areas and i when i ah like my last recent time i went out kind of forging out in the woods and weird experience but still i end up getting you know striked by a garter gardener snake I love chasing those things. I loved it, man.
00:53:51
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i was like, wow, I haven't felt that feeling in a while. like you no not love to provoke it, but that feeling of actually like, wow, I remember that.
00:54:01
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Yeah, those are neat. The only bad part about those things is when they musk on you. That shit stinks. Yeah. i I had that happen trying to remove the nest of them.
00:54:14
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but those are those are neat Those are becoming popular in the pet trade now, too. What? Mm-hmm. Yeah, they've actually got, I've seen where they got now the red California red-headed garter snakes, which is red with the blue. People are breeding them now and everything else. It's pretty cool.
00:54:35
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See? I tried to keeping them for a time, but that, I'll be honest, that was my big problem with them is they would musk everywhere. And it just, they would, they would reek after like a day or two. I'm like, Oh, okay. I'm going to let you back. I'm going to let you go. is thinking up my garage.
00:54:49
Speaker
Well, that, and that's, and I mean, that's their thing. That's just like the, with the King snakes, everything else, man, there, a lot of them can be docile or it just depends on, on the snake. Yeah.
00:55:01
Speaker
Most of your snakes are, they're going to musk on you and that shit's just, ugh. the It's funky. Yeah. Very.
00:55:12
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Oh, man.
00:55:15
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But yeah, I'd like to keep doing what I got and expand into the aquarium game a little bit. It would be neat to do again, get piranhas and stuff again like that and Oh, for sure. If I, you know, have areas area big enough for things to do that stuff.
00:55:33
Speaker
Um, not only that, just do the educational on shit. If I don't know what it is, I'm going to look and hit up the reputable people just like in motor sports. I don't know a lot of, I know, ah i know enough, but if I don't, I got the connections that I can make to help pass on.
00:55:51
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Um, Motor sports is kind of easier to pass down than the animal situation with the prepared younger generation. It's harder to do um just because they've had that set in their head back to because this person feared it. I don't like them just because this person doesn't like them instead of giving them the chance. You know what mean?
00:56:15
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Right.
00:56:18
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I couldn't agree more.
00:56:22
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yeah If we could somehow bring that back. Right. Well, that's like people think a lot of snakes are slimy. It's just because of their color that the sun hits off of their scales.
00:56:34
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They're not slimy. Right. They're not like grabbing earthworms and salamanders and stuff where they're the saliva. Shit like that. Yeah.
00:56:46
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yeah That's one thing that I've come to learn is when it comes to reptiles versus amphibians, amphibians to me seem to more produce like the slime and that, whereas the reptiles may produce more of the musk.
00:56:59
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Well, and that's the thing is, is it's like with amphibians and certain, and certain, some reptiles there, that slime can actually, it's got a poison in their system.
00:57:10
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That's a defense mechanism. Yes. Yeah. but there's a And that's the other thing people don't understand. There's two versions.
00:57:20
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There's poisonous and venomous.
Poisonous vs. Venomous Explained
00:57:23
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And people always consider rattlesnakes, copperheads. You see people always saying poisonous snakes. They're not poisonous because they don't they inject you. That's why it's called venom and not poison. Poison can be from touching or anything else from the skin whatever.
00:57:45
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Yes. Unlike venom, where it's injected into syringe-style needles in their mouth.
00:57:56
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well who That common misconception um can lead to, let's say, you misunderstand the animal. Yeah. Well, there is there actually is a snake that has both.
00:58:09
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It's found over, and I think, in Peru or somewhere over in Thailand. It actually has both, venom and poison. It's a – yeah, it was interesting. I watched one of my – it's called David's Feeds, and this guy does tours and stuff through Thailand, China, and he found one of these snakes.
00:58:33
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He literally had to put a glove on because – It actually has poison on its skin, let alone fangs that bite you with venom. And the thing is maybe not even that much bigger than a ring neck, one of the smaller snakes.
00:58:49
Speaker
Oh. Yeah, that was cool. i never knew that existed. Let me see. I think I know a little bit on that there, but
00:59:11
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I wanted to see if I could by some chance look it up, but it's not showing me much. Yeah, there's... Here, let give me one second here. Then there's also some reptiles and amphibians that actually secrete blood from their eye sockets as a defense mechanism.
00:59:29
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I heard a little bit about that.
00:59:36
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think one is a lizard? Yep. yep
00:59:57
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The horned lizard. Yep, that's one of them.
01:00:11
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Yeah, there's it's neat to different... Because of these channels that I follow, lot of them do the actual find them out in nature in their habitats is freaking badass.
01:00:24
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Like I said, I'll send you a i'll send i'll send you a bunch of, ah ah probably you'll probably end up with 10 different YouTube channels to check out that I follow, man. I you'll you'll i think you'll like them.
01:00:37
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But yeah, there's that one that David's feed. he His recent video, he just did it. He ended up actually in the hospital because he got bit by king cobra that he found.
01:00:50
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Oh, shit. And this guy, what's just weird is is I don't know how, but I guess he's been bitten multiple times by different venomous snakes and shit. And I'm surprised he ain't like one of my idols that i recently passed away two years ago. His name was Dingle Dinkum, and he was out of South Africa.
01:01:11
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He had allergic reaction to venom and ended up getting a bite and ended up losing his life because he, from the glass and the, if you don't clean the glass regularly on your snakes, the venomous snakes, you can actually get a allergic reaction to the dry venom that you bre breathe in And he had allergic reaction and got, he got, he got bit and ended up losing his life over it.
01:01:36
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Oh man. Yeah. But you can, but yeah, that's, That's crazy. That's what baffles me. Cause I've seen the other end of the spectrum where people will somehow build up an immunity to it.
01:01:49
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There's not not many, most of it's most of the people out there, they get, they'll end up some of them, their bodies end up, like I said, with an allergic reaction, like a bee sting. Some of the, some of the, some of the snakes, like I told you earlier, if you're allergic to bees, you don't want to get bit by like a copperhead or anything like that, because no it it can kill you just like a have an allergic reaction from if you don't catch it in time. ra And this guy kept like black mambas, king cobras.
01:02:23
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I mean, shit like that and everything else. I mean, he kept some, some of the deadliest snakes in the world because he wanted to educate people about him. He had his own zoo.
01:02:33
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They were in big, big cages, natural habitat setups. I mean, it was, it was bad-ass. i
01:02:45
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So, but yeah, it was it was pretty cool. um Oh, yeah. see
01:02:55
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the You know the secrets? Yeah. ae Honestly, i I wonder if anybody tried to keep one of those before. I know that they live more out in the ocean.
01:03:09
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i haven't seen those but but yeah Like I said, I follow a lot of them. I've seen them catch them in the wild. And they're actually one of the most venomous snakes in the world. But they do they they don't bite people.
01:03:24
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no Isn't it like their fangs are too small or something? Yeah. Well, another thing that's an amazing, you know what the most poisonous spider is in the world?
01:03:35
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boom Granddaddy longlegs. Oh, yeah, but they're once again, their fangs are too... They cannot penetrate our skin.
01:03:47
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But they are known as the most poison they're the most poisonous spider in the world. Now, I'm surprised I never had a reaction to one of those because i' I'll admit, before um I had more recent quality... play with them all the time.
01:04:01
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Huh? I play with them all the time. The... oh Before I knew, you know, your respect for nature and stuff like that, back I was little, little, um there were times where I'd squished a couple of them. But I never, I'm surprised I never got that in my my cuts or anything like that or else I would have been.
01:04:23
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Nope. Well, and the other thing of it was is I met little, used to pull their legs off. Right. I didn't know no better back then. And now now i now i get now I see them. I try to catch them and it I mess with them now.
01:04:38
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They're cool creatures, man.
01:04:42
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It's like this past summer, we had a bunch of baby praying mantises around our house. long It was freaking sweet. I got some pictures on my phones where they've been up on my porch, on my wall.
01:04:54
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um They've been nesting. Actually, ah every year we've had at least three or four of them we'd see. I've never yet to see one of those twice in my life. They're freaking awesome. Well, and especially to see them when they're young and they're still brown. They don't even have the green yet.
01:05:12
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Right? Mm-hmm. Oh, there's um there's the orchid ones too, yeah?
01:05:20
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Oh, yeah. Those are in China. China, Thailand. there's of People keep them here. um there's even the leaf Leaf praying mantis, which is found, i think in the Amazon down in that it Belize, all those areas, you know, where it's warmer climates.
01:05:36
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Yeah. Oh, I think once it starts to, they don't get it wrong, regular ones are are beautiful and amazing in their own right. But once it starts to get to that more exotic property of them, I think it's crazy. I think they really have some crazy looks to them.
01:05:55
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Well, that's like two. I didn't know. Um, Did you know there's two different generations of tarantulas? There's old a the old world and new world? I didn't know that, no.
01:06:09
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Yeah, the old world is where they ah they are, you know, your normal tarantulas, everything else, spiders, your arachnids, they'll bite defensively, everything else.
01:06:23
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Now a lot of the new world, what they call the new world, they have defense mechanisms where they flick their hairs off their butts. And it's got it's got a venom, well, poison and stuff in their hairs, and they try to flick it into their predator's eyes and shit. oh my ah I didn't know this until but about a month ago that there was two different generations of tarantulas.
Tarantulas and Dart Frogs: Defense and Poison
01:06:52
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01:06:54
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I didn't either. That's something I learned new just now. if Yeah. the People make fun of them and call the new generation butt flickers. who c I like them. They're unique. there's ah There's another thing that there's all the different species of.
01:07:13
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ah You got the old school like red tarantulas, you know, different stuff and everything. Then you got these other ones that are multicolored.
01:07:25
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They're Bright blue and black. I mean, it's just different things. See, that's that's one thing I'm not allowed to have in my house, by the way. Oh, shit.
01:07:38
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She just yelled, fuck no, from in the living room. So, yeah, that's one thing. Because like the pink toes and the red knees and stuff like that.
01:07:52
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Oh, yeah. they're they're gorgeous They're gorgeous. But, yeah, that's one thing I am not allowed. It took a minute to get the snakes in the house, but we're good with that. I feel that. same Same with me. I wanted to have a collection of them, and I was told, nope. Once I get a place of my own, I totally can.
01:08:12
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i would and Like I told her, though, that it's well it's bad experience. Had one get out before in the past. She had issues with, so I get it. my i can make yeah my love My local pet store a year ago actually had a camel spider.
01:08:33
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One of the largest. that and they had the bird-eating tarantula. I would have loved to have that. Big-ass motherfucker. Yeah. i those butie Those bird eaters get big.
01:08:48
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They're still not as big as the camel spiders, though, that are over in the desert. Those are actually one of the largest spiders there is. those you Actually, are yeah our military has funny stories about those because when they'd go overseas, they'd get right inside of the rucksacks and shit.
01:09:06
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They'd hide in their boots and everything else, and then they'd end up sick from it, getting bit and everything. Oh, I've had a few guys I knew that went over that they had people where that's happened. They got they made sure you checked your boots, checked your your cot and everything else before you got in it and before you get up.
01:09:23
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Especially your boots. They love to hide in those places. But yeah, bird-eating tarantulas are pretty cool. They get big. It's neat how they hunt, though. It's cute.
01:09:37
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You ever get a chance? look at the They set up a They kind of do a cave with a web on it. It's pretty cool. I heard a little bit about that, but not in depth.
01:09:50
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Oh, yeah, man. You get a chance in your free time. You're doing some artwork and stuff. Get a chance to look it up. Check out some of the stuff, man. It's pretty amazing. Well, I got the multitasker right here with me.
01:10:04
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Let's see. yep They get about as as big as your hand, maybe a little bit bigger. you know Some of them are even bigger. Some of them are even bigger depending on where their their look locality is, where they're located.
01:10:24
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Oh, my goodness. Yeah, right here it shows a picture of one that's bigger than the guy's hand, and then another picture when you swipe over is that same one taking down a bird. Yep.
01:10:36
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Oh, my God. and yeah ah Nature's creative. Oh, yeah. oh never And that's like with a lot of the animals. they Some of them, you're non-venomous. Some of you're non-poisonous. Mimic the venomous and poisonous animals just to keep try to keep predators away.
01:10:57
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I mean, there's a lot of lot of the snakes out there that they'll rattle in the leaves just to keep you away from them. Right. different amphibians are mocking that you're, you know, you're dart frogs, you're poisonous frogs and shit like that.
01:11:11
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Just to be, yeah. So, I mean, yeah, Mother Nature's, yeah, Mother Nature definitely, if you take the time, she could teach you a lot of stuff.
01:11:22
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yeah it's It's like the dart frogs there, that they eat fire ants and then they will use that toxin from the fire ants to produce their venom.
01:11:35
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yo They're neat, though. there're Those are very colorful animals as well, too. For amphibians, you can make the difference.
01:11:49
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All right, buddy. You're going to do a live on your show here? Go back over to your channel here in a little bit because I'm going to get ready wrap up this one up. Yes, sir. I'll go live tonight. Thank you for coming on, man.
01:12:02
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All right, I'll see you here in a little bit. you for coming on, Johnny. No problem. Thanks for having me. Sounds good. Yep. Bye. Bye.
01:12:14
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Thank you all for tuning in tonight. I'm glad to be back. Uh, thanks Johnny for coming on and everything else, talking with me with animals and everything. Um, I hope everybody in the chat had a good night and stuff. Uh, appreciate you all tuning in.
01:12:29
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I will be back Monday night with speedway stories. Um, Hopefully then, too, I may actually bring Johnny back up again because his family history of they he had relatives and stuff racing motocross and everything. Figured bring him up. We can talk some of that. And if Benji still got his ears on and some free time, I may swing Benji up on here to talk some formula racing and everything else. And we'll see what happens.
01:13:01
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tune Tune in tomorrow night for Michael and the friends for movie night and everything else. Saturday night, of course, is nonsensical nonsense. Tune in and let it all hang out with us and stuff and have a good time.
01:13:16
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It's where the craziness comes out. Sunday, Rick and Glick's back with all things football and unnecessary roughness. Monday night, like I said, Speedway Stories.
01:13:27
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We're back at it again, and we're going to try to stay consistent with it. Tuesday, hopefully, Glick's working on a badass project for Glick's House of Music.
01:13:38
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We'll see what happens with that and everything else. I know he's been messing his ass to try to get something special for that show. Wednesday night is Brittany and Michael and their hump day ha-haws.
01:13:50
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And then we're back here Thursday night again with Cold-Bloody Conversation where we're opening the door for anything animals-related. And everybody...
Session Conclusion and Thanks
01:14:01
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Anybody wants to come on talk about animals and stuff, let me know. i appreciate you all tuning in.
01:14:09
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