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Black Clover Hype!
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We couldn't contain our excitement for the Black Clover movie dropping on Netflix, that we had Brian V Klein of the Source Pages Podcast join us to relive our favorite characters, moments, and music from the series in anticipation for this release!
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Black Clover Seasons Overview
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On another magical episode of the Animation Deliberation podcast, I hope your mon is charged up because we are talking Black Clover Seasons 1 through 4. Right off these ads, we have no control over.
Podcast Introduction
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Sing along, if you know the words. One, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of a favorite action animated series. Yeah.
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Welcome back to another episode of Animation Deliberation, the podcast where we take action animation of cartoons seriously, but not too seriously. I'm your host, Suhara Lee, and joining me today is one of the hosts of Source Pages, a reading collective podcast. Mr. Brian V. Kline, how you doing, bud?
00:00:42
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I am doing fantastic. How are you doing? And I don't know why I just went with my podcast or voice there. I mean, we are podcasting, so it is appropriate. I don't have a podcasting voice. I can tell when you're really animated in your in your cold open intro. It's like, why wouldn't you be? This is a great show.
00:01:07
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I know, right? But like everyone who talks to me beforehand like sees how exhausted I am before we hit record and then it's like, switch on, let's go. It's like, okay.
Upcoming Black Clover Movie
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All right, so we are here to talk about Black Clover because the movie is dropping June 16th on Netflix. For full disclosure, it is the end of March as we are recording this in case I take a little longer than I should to put this up.
00:01:31
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But, you know, I started watching the show because I had my shoulder surgery and I thought this movie was coming out in March. So I was like, well, I'm home all day, every day
Personal Connection to Black Clover
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anyways. I want to have some content for this. I knew nothing about the show. Went into it and it became like part of my life. I was just vicariously living this life of Clover Kingdom as I was in recovery to the point where
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When the next episode button was gone, I was in a state of depression for like three days. I was like, what do I do with my life? It's over. I need to move. No show could fill this void right now. This is so incredible. Why have I waited so long? But where's the rest of it?
00:02:11
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I told you, you know, it's one of those shows where I watched it, you know, a while ago and then rewatched it and then, you know, mentioned like, Hey, black clovers, you know, guys get it's it's just so captivating because it's got a concept that's.
Storytelling and Binge-Worthiness
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Um, I guess, I mean, for what you were saying, I've never watched Naruto because you know, the early season animation on it is so terrible, right? Uh-huh. I'm sure it is. Um, but I guess it has a, you know, a kind of connection to that, but it's, it's one of those, it's, it's, it just, any great show where
00:02:50
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an arc ends and you're like, OK, what are they going to do? And then they top it and then they top it again. I mean, we've got one hundred and what's 170 episodes of this. And it just seemed like. When they went from one thing to the next, to the next, it was just like, holy crap, it just keeps getting more and more just.
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You can't stop. I mean, it's it's there's there's only a handful. I mean, anime does that. If it's a good storytelling across the board, you can, you know, fly through things a lot quicker. This show was also it fits well with the binge method because of just how linear and good the storytelling is. And also, I appreciate the fact that the show doesn't have or didn't seem like it had a lot of shows. Sometimes we'll have
Anime on Streaming Platforms
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a, you know, the beginning of the show.
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is two minutes of the opening and the opening song, and then three minutes of what happened at the end of the last episode, so now you only have 15 minutes to show. It didn't seem like it did that a lot. Some shows do.
00:03:55
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Yeah, it was a lot of things a lot of times where they just kind of put it in when it was necessary as opposed to just going to the recap, which, you know, as I just said, for binging, it was fantastic. But at the same time, like you don't always want to skip the songs because the songs are great. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's that's what's perfect. And that's why I don't like I had to. There's there's right now it just seems like anime is on every streaming network there is every stream platform.
00:04:24
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and multiple for some reason for the same shows. I mean, for mostly everything is going to be on Funimation slash Crunchyroll because that's I mean, Funimation seems like those guys own or have, you know, a foot in everything.
Rewatching One Piece Journey
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Yeah. But I had to watch. I'm taking right now, I'm taking a very big leap
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where not big leap, but it's a big commitment where you saw this like about a month and a half to maybe the beginning of February. I decided I wanted to pick back up and watch one piece because it had been a while and I knew exactly where I was, but I started watching. I'm like, none of this seems familiar. You know what? I'm going to start over. For the listeners, I need you to know that there's a pirate flag hanging in the background, too. Oh, yeah, that's the straw hat pirates there. I've had there for a while. I pulled it out.
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And I've had that up for a while too. If you watch stuff on Netflix, they not only
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And Hulu does it too with Demon
Anime Intros on Netflix vs Hulu
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Slayer. They cut the music, not only the option to skip it, which is fine if you don't want to hear it all the time, but Demon Slayer on Hulu doesn't have the full intro song. It's like 17 seconds long if you ever look at it. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And the same thing with I had to watch a few episodes of One Piece on
00:05:49
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Netflix, because for some reason Funimation wasn't picking it up. Now, the thing that sucks about this is the first like 200 episodes. Okay, for people that don't know, I mean, if you're an animation fan, you probably noticed, but One Piece has got about 1,055 episodes and I'm on episodes.
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Yeah, I'm on episode I made it up to I started at one and I'm on like 240 something right now. So I've been hitting it pretty good. But for like the first 200 episodes was full frame because it took place in the 90s. They didn't have the widescreen. Netflix just stretched it. It's they cut the top and bottom. So there's sometimes you're watching it going like, what am I looking at here? So it's sort of, you know,
00:06:29
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When it comes to anime, you go and sort of suss out what's the best option for you to watch. Mainly to is, you know, this is a hill I'll die on. I am a diehard.
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subfan. I don't care for the dubs. I mean, I'm a dub fan. Sorry. Okay. I was like, I thought it was the other way around. No, no, no, no, no. I get so connected to the characters, the American voices of them. Yeah. Asta and this show, Luffy. There's certain characters, Natsu, especially in Fairy Tail, when you watch the OVAs, which most OVAs for some things are.
00:07:09
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Exactly. Even like Deku, the voices when I'm watching them in Japanese, they seem to blend together. They don't have as much distinction, mainly because I don't know the language, but I'm so used to having, on fairy tale, happy, have a certain voice. Then you hear it in the Japanese and it's like,
00:07:32
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That doesn't even sound like the same type of character. It just sounds like a person talking to him sometimes, but that's just me. Yeah, I'm really hoping that this movie, because it is coming out directly to Netflix, it will be in theaters in Japan, that it actually has the dub option right off the bat because I'm just invested in those voices now. As you know, when I'm disinvesting the show with My Hero or Attack on Titan, I can't wait for the dub. I have to watch the sub, but I always give it justice by
00:07:58
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once the season is over, I watch again. So I'm hoping that I can still enjoy the dub. Anybody who's going to watch with me, they're just going to have to suck it up because it's incredible. And we're going with it.
Black Clover vs Naruto
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So a lot of the similarities that you know, you mentioned that this had with Naruto. So it is the same studio, Studio Piero. And it was basically like right as Shippuden wrapped up, they started working on this. And when I started the first episode, I thought that I was just
00:08:24
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watching like Naruto in a different part of the multiverse because Instead of chakra they have mana and they still have the villages and as soon as he said I'm gonna be the wizard king instead of Naruto saying I'm gonna be the Hokage I was like This is the exact same premise and somebody even said like this was the most shonen jump that shonen could jump and I lost it the first time I heard that but then the most interesting thing happened is that when we got to the part where
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the kingdom was attacked for the first time, that was when the predictability kind of went out the window. There are a lot of similarities structure-wise, but story-wise, that was what you were saying that makes us such a great binge show is that every time you think that the action is over and that we have a little bit of peace for our heroes, something comes in and just messes it back up all over again.
00:09:14
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So it's just the arc is non stop action for episode after episode after episode like you're you can't not like watch three hours at a time because you're like fuck is happening like how is this still going on right now it's a time sucker because it's just like next thing you know like oh man I didn't watch it's 2 30 in the morning what the hell so
00:09:35
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And I couldn't sleep because I was in pain anyway. So I was up till three, four in the morning, just happy, like, la, la, la, and the medicine will kick in and I'm knocked out. So I, you know, oxycodone kind of forced me to take breaks. But aside from that, like, the story, the action, the powers, like,
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I was just blown away. I say that Naruto is my favorite anime of all time, and because this was so similar to it, it was a very difficult void to fill as soon as I caught up. I was like, I need more right now!
00:10:11
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Imagine what's going to be like when they finally continue season four, start season five to finish the story. It's going to be like, oh, you're going to have to do it in the one week, you know, timeframe and then wait like you're doing now, like my hero or any other show that is you caught up. That's the binge method is great. Or you could just go back and be like, oh, I'll rewatch this now because that way you can sort of, I watched episode one seven. Oh, I'm too invested to wait.
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There were some things I forgot about it where how, I mean, for people that didn't know, this was a show that they basically
Black Clover Movie Plot
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said, end of season four, show's done.
00:10:51
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because there's no manga to continue, but we watch it. There's no way in hell they could end the show where they did. Yeah. You know, that was one hell of a cliffhanger. Yeah. I mean, especially the whole thing with Libba, which is the devil that is in the grimoire that is, you know, helping us to the main character. They finally meet. He finally understood. We finally get a resolution almost. Well, not officially, but it's pretty much we know who Asta's mom is.
00:11:20
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Yeah, that was big. That was just like, as soon as when, and Lieb was the one that put the two and two together, I mean, it was, that was not as big of a shock as when we find out who Yuna is like. Yuna, no, Yuna, excuse me, Yuna. Yuna, when it's like, oh, he's the prince of the Diamond Kingdom.
00:11:39
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Yeah. And it's just in the Diamond Kingdom now, for people to... Okay, so it took me a little bit when I was watching it to realize, oh, okay, the four kingdoms are diamond, clover, heart. Same. It's like, oh, okay, it's the suits of cards. Yeah, that took me a minute too. Don't feel ashamed. But what they did was when they stopped production, they had a little bit of a halt with the production of the manga,
00:12:03
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So now that the manga and they've even said it's like it's There it's finishing up or maybe it just did finally finish up the manga did so now they have enough material to Finish the anime because he's I don't want to have this movie is just to kind of buy time while they're working on The actual series and you shared a fun tidbit with me about that today. I
00:12:24
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Oh, about the OK, so the movie is a story by Yuki Tabata or Tabata or whatever you want to call him. He is the guy that created Black Clover. So this is a rare occurrence where the show is actually it's it's anime canon. It's not going to be canon as far as the manga goes because it doesn't have a manga. It's not canon. But since it's done, it's basically a new story where
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I don't know how much you talked about it where it's like it's called sort of the Wizard King and haven't talked about it on the show at all. This is like the first Black Clover animation deliberations ever seen. Yeah, so basically he's going to have to go back and fight some of the previous Wizard Kings. And he's even said that there's going to be references to it in the final season of the show. So obviously it's one of those things, too, where it's like
Anime Predictability and Emotion
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you got to think
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There's a lot of plot armor in here.
00:13:25
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You know that in the movie, certain things can tap in when it comes to characters. This is one of those shows, too, where it's you don't really feel main characters are at, you know, threat to die because there's so much at stake and also how much popular they are. I mean, even in the show, Julius, the Wizard King dies.
00:13:53
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But he doesn't really die because he comes back as a kid. And then we see him as an adult in the trailer. So it's like, but Asta's wearing his time skip outfit. So it's like, where are we right now? Right. So basically, I could just the quick thing if you want me to I could read the plot of the movie quick. Sure. Just is like Asta, a boy born with no magic in a world where magic is everything. And his rival, you know, a genius made shows about a legendary four leaf grimoire.
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have fought together a number of powerful enemies to prove their power beyond adversary and aim for the top mage, Wizard King.
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Standing in front of us, and you know who dream of becoming the Wizard King, are the Wizard Kings from the past. Conrad Leto, Julius Novochromo's predecessor Wizard King, was respected by the people of Clover Kingdom, but suddenly rebelled against the kingdom and was sealed away, has been resurrected. Now he aims to use the Imperial Sword to resurrect the three most feared Wizard Kings in history. Edward Avalanche, Princeia Funny Bunny, and Jester Garandaros. Take over the Clover Kingdom.
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The Boy Who Dreams are becoming the Wizard King versus the Wizard Kings from the past, and all out war begins.
00:15:03
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So there's more similarities to Naruto that when the great ninja war began, the villain had this reincarnation jutsu. So as long as he had the DNA of the person that he wanted to resurrect and sacrifice, he could bring them back, but they're like immortal until they're sealed. So it's crazy seeing these similarities. So he got some of the most terrifying ninjas like resurrected and then they were just like at war against them.
00:15:29
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So it's cool seeing the similarities between Naruto and this because Lord knows there's so many of them, but the fact that they have an insane way of putting their own spin on it. And you talk about the plot armor of knowing the characters that are alive because we've seen season four.
00:15:44
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I think the really important thing about movies nowadays is that everything kind of has a predictability nature. People don't go into movies wanting to be blown away. They're trying to figure it out before it happens. So I think what makes a movie good nowadays is if you know what's going to happen, whether it be through the music or the dialogue or the relationships, is giving you that essence of intensity and emotion
00:16:08
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to be like, I know he's alive, but I'm still on the edge of my seat concerned from him. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's true. And especially with this and with the especially the anime movies is that there is no. Manga to like base it off of to be like, oh, I already know what's going to happen. Happen. Not like, you know, where with the Demon Slayer, the Mugen training, it was a movie, but it technically was an arc from the
00:16:38
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manga. So you know that, you know, spoiler alert for a three year old movie, when Goku is gonna die. So
00:16:45
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But then you have the first My Hero Academia movie where it's technically not canon, but the manga canon in the anime has reference like going to the island to meet the scientist and the American sidekick that he had at one point. And even the current season right now, like the braces that Deku has are from that same American scientist. So they like referenced the movie without it ever technically being canon, but the other two movies aren't. So it's like,
00:17:15
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It's crazy how they kind of like tiptoe that line of like keeping you but not like throwing off the balance of everything. I think they could do that with the anime too is because they're not always fully beholden to the manga like they are. They nip and tuck stuff and can add like how they said they're going to add references to this Black Clover movie in the final season.
00:17:37
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It's not going to change anything. It's just going to be like, uh, you know, you'll, it'll be like the whole Leo sitting on the couch with the, ah, you know, I see it. Yeah. If anything, a little
Anime Pacing and Manga Synchronization
00:17:49
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bump in the road. Yeah. The creators of anime are very, I think loyal to their fan bases into where they're, you know, they understand them and they go, okay, we're going to do this.
00:18:02
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the right way, hence where, like I said, they didn't pull a we were discussing before the show how some of the shows back when they were being created while the manga was still around Fullmetal Alchemist being one of them. It overpassed the manga and then just went to crap. Yeah, like it changed. It went Game of Thrones where it didn't have the source material to base it off of where this one, they're like, OK, we caught up. We're just going to wait.
00:18:30
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Yeah. So that's where we're at right now. So yeah. Pacing is definitely crucial in a situation like that, but I would rather wait and the studios and creators keep us in the loop of like, Hey, you're going to have to wait two years, but you are getting something as opposed to like what sort of online did for the longest time. Where it's like, are you going to have one? Are you not? We'll know when you know, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I need to know.
00:18:57
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Yeah, that's one show that bothers me too, where it's just like, they say it's going to continue, but is it going to continue? One Punch Man is another one where it's like, we know that there is a season three pretty much done. They just don't have a studio that they're working with now to put it. When I was with Mappa and it's coming out this summer. What is?
00:19:18
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So Napa is doing one punch man and it's coming out this summer. Okay, cool breaking news Nice. Well, yeah, that's another one where it ended at a certain way where it's like, okay is Is Saitama gonna be able to get out of this and then it's like because it turns out it's something happens where this one punch is not
00:19:39
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Well, the final season of Attack on Titan has been over three years now. It started at the end of 21 and now we thought we were gonna have weekly episodes and it was just two and it's like wait till November for the rest. I'm like, what are you guys doing? And we didn't even know that until we watched it. It's just, it's insane. Just communicate with us fans. Like all we want to do is support you guys.
Attack on Titan Ending Speculation
00:20:01
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Right. And I saw some sort of, I think you said it to me, one of those memes where it seemed like, because they were talking about how Attack on Titan was coming back the same day that Demon Slayer is in the money. That's exactly what happened. But it made it sound like that fans aren't liking Attack on Titan, or is it that they're changing the ending to it or something? Or it's
00:20:21
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I mean, my understanding is that people didn't like the ending of the manga, but there's no confirmation of if the anime is going to keep that ending or rewrite it. Okay. That's a show in November.
00:20:36
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I think I've watched the first episode of Attack on Titan like five times. Like I've always started it and then something else popped up and then I just never got back to it. So I know that's me with bleach. The first bleach or the new bleach? I'm caught up on the new bleach. I'm trying to rewatch the old bleach and I just, I keep getting distracted. Yeah, there's a lot of episodes of that one too.
00:21:00
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Did I skip to three seasons because they were all filler? We need to have a whole episode where we just catch up on anime, but to stay on Black Clover. OK.
Favorite Black Clover Arcs
00:21:08
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There was a lot of great arcs in this. This was a lot of great action, great storytelling. Do you have a favorite arc? I think. There's because it's a longer art. I think the Dark Elves arc was fantastic. That one just like.
00:21:29
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It man, it you didn't know what was going on because you had the the knights, the magic knights that were going like, listen, we can't do everything we need to do to defeat these because they're possessing our friends. And so it's just like it was amazing how you know, sort of was like possessed. But he was just like, yeah, you're not overtaking me, though. That just shows how powerful he is.
00:21:57
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That's what threw me off is I thought that was the big reveal about, you know, was that he was an elf. No, because this was before we saw like everybody else transform to. So I was like, oh, you guys got me. I thought that was it. But what makes you special is the fact that you didn't get possessed by an elf, but you still got the power boost. Yeah, it was sort of just like the guy was probably just like, hey, wait, what the heck happened here? I'm supposed to have like he still it's it's like he's still stuck in the, you know, the back of the guy's mind like he has no control. But yeah, that whole arc because of
00:22:28
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Just the the the the the storytelling and the. Just even like the way it sort of continued after, I don't want to like when they went and they went into the. Was it like the nether realm where they ended up fighting the devil while they were still it was like after the. I forgot what it was called, but I know what you're talking about, just that other devil dimension. But as soon as you have pretty much after.
00:22:58
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the the Dark Elves arc. Any sustained like lightheartedness? Because there was sometimes where like, especially when they were doing some of the games, and the it could be 1520 episodes in a row of it being sort of just like
00:23:14
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Hey, you know, this is fun, because as serious as we're talking with Black Clover, there is a lot of humor and just goofiness. Fantastic. Yeah. I mean, frigging the main guy, the captain, Yami, of the Black Bulls, his catchphrase is probably, I got to take a dump. I mean, he's always talking about taking dumps. So that just shows how goofy it is.
00:23:39
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But after all, always having to take like teleporter through the toilet. Yeah, it's like, I don't have anything better to do. But then you also have like, yeah, funeral. The relationship with him and his brother, who's the coach, the coach, vice captain of the Golden Dawn, it's just like, man, they hate like he hates him.
00:24:00
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So there's just so much like anything can go from being this like, oh my god, this is so hard to like, way him hits you. But then it's goofy to back in it because like Gordon in his whole like creepy goth, he whispers everything and he's everyone's best friend. But then, you know, that whole side of the fact that he's part of like the Addams family or the monsters or whatever it's like, but after Yeah, after the black, the Dark Elves arc, it just seemed like it was just
00:24:26
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You had the whole thing where they were trying Asta and that like they were, they were trying to basically just like blacklist black balls and arrest all of them and kill them. And then they were just like, okay, well, we're going to fight here. And then with the whole diamond kingdom and stuff like that, it's just like, man, it's no one's safe. And as far as like no one's dying, but it's just like, it's the, the fun, the light heartedness was gone. It was still fun, but it was just sort of like, man, stakes is high right now.
00:24:56
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Yeah, for sure. And it was very optimistic the way that season four started because everyone got their glow ups and they got new powers and they've been training for six months and they're all badass and they all get their asses handed to them right off the bat. I just about broke down when Yami actually had to ask Asta for help and that gave him like the energy to like get up and fight. I was like, man, this is so sick. This is like all my Deku vibes just great because the same American voice actor. Yeah.
00:25:22
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All Might is. And that's what I like to about Yami's character is we still don't really know who he is. I love that they tease things here and there, but they don't fully give all the information. It's like, you know what? Play with it. It's fine. Black Clover is one of those shows where I've tempted
00:25:45
Speaker
to read the manga to see how the story goes. But then it's like, I don't want to, you know, not the same. It's not. It's not the same. I've done that. It's just like Demon Slayer has done that to me. Did Jatsu Kaizan has done that to me. So many shows that I love. It's just like I want to know, but it's like I want to see it. But it's also like you can read it, too, because now you have the voices in your head to be able to do
Avoiding Manga Spoilers
00:26:11
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that. But it's also just like
00:26:13
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Even Slayer, I just realized I don't want to do it because the animation on that is part of my French fucking beautiful. The way that they upped it for the little mini movie to the swordsmith arc was just even when they were in that infinity castle, it was just like, my God, this is crazy. With Black Clover, it's just like,
00:26:35
Speaker
I think we know how many manga that they have. And so they usually could figure that each episode is usually like two or three issues, right? Yeah, something like that. The podcast is really the reason that I don't give into the manga, because I want my listeners to have like my genuine reaction of how I feel about things not like I know what's happening.
00:26:55
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OK, if it wasn't for the show, I probably would have given in and started reading ahead on a lot of these things by now. But like, I just I can't do that to the listeners. I think my goofy personality just has to fully bleed into how I react to these things. And it doesn't help either. When you walk into like Walmart and Target now, they have a whole section of like omnibus for manga, where it's just like God. It's like, I'm glad that we're getting the opportunity to spend money on these things now. But at the same time, chill the fuck out. Yeah. My favorite arc.
00:27:25
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was when Asta was visiting Rebecca and then Noelle was pretending to be a server at the restaurant to spy on them.
Favorite Black Clover Moments
00:27:40
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And they had that arc with, what was the mirror guy's name?
00:27:44
Speaker
Oh, um, Gauche. Gauche. Yeah. Yeah. When Gauche's sister gets kidnapped with all the other kids and they're in the snow mountain, I think that one's my favorite is because that was, that was like the first part that really got me like fully
00:28:00
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hooked on what the story and what the action was. The fact that this one little event that was supposed to be on their day off built up to this all out fight to find out that the Midnight Suns were involved, to Yami having to come in and then that fight getting even bigger. See even more captains coming in before they had to break up. Like that was the first one that really got me. I was like, I am sold.
00:28:24
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on this show I am all in like give me I am not sleeping for two months let's go yeah I mean it built like you said a little side adventure to like the capital being attacked and yeah just all the stuff but there's only one arc in this show that really felt filery and I actually haven't checked if it is or not but it was the like the devil cult
00:28:48
Speaker
when Asta was on trial, they had the mass and they like turned it upside down. Oh, yeah. That was the only thing that I was like, I didn't really care for that. But overall, everything else just been phenomenal. I think I think that probably was because that that it led because it was outside of that thing, too, because it was more just like they worship the devil, but it's not that double. But they're actually, you know, it's supposed to be fighting the doubles and stuff like that. So.
00:29:16
Speaker
I know, that didn't seem very long, but then it ended up with, you know, them.
00:29:23
Speaker
Wouldn't it the one where they ended up in that zone where the mana was all weird and shit like that? It's like between every country. There's like these mana zones. Yeah, between all the kingdoms. It's like this mountain range where it's like mana is basically you have that and it's like the force. It's like magic. And Asta is the only guy that doesn't have it, but yet he now he has like anti-mana and anti-magic.
00:29:48
Speaker
And then just the way he's able to. Usually, especially like it later, the season four, we ends up being able to fly because he could just ride his sword where everyone else can like has the power of flight because of the magic. At first, when either of them could fly and they had to hitch a ride all the time, that was hilarious. Yeah, it was usually like with they were riding with.
00:30:12
Speaker
Magna on that room of his that was like all like souped up and like hot rotted and I guess I can give you a ride and then she couldn't fly either so they kept crashing into everything. Talk about a frustrating character and I think it's just because Noelle's family is a bunch of just like assholes.
00:30:34
Speaker
But her I mean, you could totally tell she digs Asta like she's. Oh, yeah, not subtle, but but he's below her. And then the way that she fights with or like is the jealousy with the most of the most of a million. Yeah, it's just like I ship them. I would those two. Yeah, because she is.
00:31:00
Speaker
another one cause she is in the golden dawn, right? Cause she's with, you know, but her whole family, the vermilions are like the, the, I can't think of the name of the fire people. And Leo, and I have it. Oh, I know that Mary. Oh, Mary. Yeah. That's the sister who's not, those are the three siblings. Yeah. They're all, um,
00:31:25
Speaker
the fire users and the head of I can't think of the name of that team, but it's like she's not like Noel. Everyone of hers around like the peacocks or whatever. And they think that she does that magic. And so her magic when she started off the show was just like crimson line.
00:31:44
Speaker
the Crimson Line. So Noelle's, her family, she didn't basically like disowned her. Yeah. And then she went to the Black Bulls are like the the team that nobody
00:32:01
Speaker
Like there's no structure to them. They're squat. It's like all the misfits, the people that don't fit in anywhere. Hence where we've got Noelle, whose family is royalty. But her magic at the beginning is like just wild and erratic. And once she finally gets it under control, it's like.
00:32:20
Speaker
Oh, man, you know, she's pretty damn powerful. So I mean, this this kind of goes into what I really want to talk about his favorite moments. And when she hit that water dragon for the first time when they were on the water, that blew me away. Like I was jumping and cheering with how excited I was for her at that point, because she didn't have to just worry about this pesky shield anymore. Like she was really contributing. Yeah.
00:32:44
Speaker
Every time she has a glow up like that I'm like good for you and you know She's building a better relationship with her brother because she knows the truth of it all even though the other two siblings are douche canoes But the fact that she's actually recognized now and she knows her potential and she's getting this confidence in herself Like she has had the biggest glow up of anybody in the show Yeah, and I think it benefits her when other people that are older mention and they see that She reminds them a lot of her mom
00:33:12
Speaker
And her mom was a powerful magic user, but died during childbirth of her. And so that's why the siblings sort of, you know, resent her for that. And she's the runt and she didn't have good enough power at the beginning and or control but turns out that the oldest was only saying all that, you know, negative stuff to her so that she would be a knight and she would be safe.
00:33:34
Speaker
Yeah. Which was, oh, the feels. Sometimes tough love like that is sort of just like, make a little bit of like not so tough love sometimes too. Yeah, right. You know, resentment builds up and then sometimes it gets to the point where you can't turn back from it and it's like, yeah. I'm just looking at like a picture of like all the people that are in the black bowls and it's just like, problem, problem, problem, problem. I mean, let's go like,
00:34:04
Speaker
Uh, luck Volta. That guy is super powerful, but he just wants to fight all the time. And he seems like he's always happy all the time, but he's always wants to fight all the time. God, I haven't go, whoever met it would be over. Is I mean, is luck that powerful, though? Because he's he's gotten his ass handed to him a couple of times. But for the most part, he's just like. But he's gotten his ass handed to like people way above his league. Right. But like even.
00:34:33
Speaker
Even when they were training in the Diamond Kingdom, it was Diamond, right? The one they're protecting right now? No, Diamond Kingdom is the one that is attacking. Oh, Heart Kingdom, excuse me. The Heart Kingdom. Yeah, so when they did the training over there, the spirits and stuff, he could keep up and Magna had to leave because he just couldn't keep up with anybody anymore. So it's like, I think Luck, Noelle, and Asta are probably top three in the Black Balls, right?
00:35:01
Speaker
As far as power goes, yeah, because, you know, the wild card is Zora. He's the one that came on late. He's the one sort of when they were doing the games, came in, was acting as a different person. He's the dude that has the black mask with the teeth. And he does traps. Yeah. Yeah, most of the definitely.
00:35:25
Speaker
I'm looking at because it's like. Charmy is powerful, but is very erratic.
Charmy's Comedic Relief
00:35:30
Speaker
She's the cutest one, though, man, when she's just like when she went to the queen of the heart kingdom, it just was like sitting on her lap eating the whole time to the king to it. I was like, have you no respect for royalty, ma'am? Ghosh, I mean, he just gets a nosebleeds when he thinks about his sister, Marie. So weird. Yeah, that's weird. Feneral can just do like the teleportation.
00:35:52
Speaker
Gray, that's just like the weirdest thing, because for the first 50 episodes, you think that it's just this big blob in person, but it ends up being this little girl who is so insecure about everything that that's her like way of not seeing who she really is.
00:36:09
Speaker
It was funny because when the theme song Guess Who's Back came up, they have the little profile shots of everybody before the title comes up. And Grey came up in her actual form. And I kept going, like, who is this person? But it didn't click to me that Grey's big form was missing in that the whole time. And then when it popped up, it was like, oh, oh.
00:36:32
Speaker
That's what sometimes the intro, if it's for like a season and they're doing it can be kind of like, OK, it's kind of it's cool to listen to. But if you look at it too much, just case in point, when I was doing my rewatch of One Piece for about 20 episodes, they had Nico Robin in the intro as part of the straw hat crew. But in the show, she's one of like the bad guys.
00:37:00
Speaker
It's just like for people watching it go for the first time going like why is she hanging around with the straw hats when right now she's trying to like kill everyone in alabaster. So stuff like that. But yeah, another Vanessa, the witch just drinks too much in it. But, you know, dude, that whole arc was wild. That was another one where it's like, how is this still going on? Oh, which one? The one where they go back to the like the witch forest.
00:37:28
Speaker
Yeah, so it's like doing the forest and then dealing with the test and then being attacked and then the witch attacking them. And then I was like, oh, my God, you guys cannot get your break. Yeah, because how long was it to where what Asta was immobilized when he couldn't. They finally had to go. What was it? What did they do to him when he was under when they went to the thing and then they had to finally go to the witch like the queen of witch and is just like they lifted his arms. His arms got sealed because of the fight underwater before.
00:37:58
Speaker
Yeah. And so that one, that was a good, when you're watching it, it was probably a good 20, 25 episodes. You got to think when you're watching this weekly, what's back in the day was just like, my God. Traumatizing. Yeah. It's just like, he can't do anything. Um, the only other person I have here is Henry, who's the guy that lives in the black. Except for he sucks all the power away from everyone.
00:38:28
Speaker
It was really awesome during the elf arc when they had this perfect cycle of the food was being made for Vanessa to reload her powers and then Henry was driving the Power Ranger version of the house. It was a cool cycle that they had going where it was all support and just infinite power.
00:38:49
Speaker
Yeah. And I think for a while, too, when they were doing it, they were doing all that. But then Henry was also like sapping the power while they were redoing it. So because basically like if you eat the food, the charm is like they make it. It replenishes mana. But yeah, I think about Nero, who has interesting backstory of being like what? Eighty some years old, the bird. Oh, yeah.
00:39:14
Speaker
And that's what, what's her name is, uh, Sycra. The one that is the, I forgot her real name, but she's the one that the whole time she's sitting there because they got the birds that, um, all the time. Yeah. Because it's like, they're sitting there and there's, you know, they go to the people that have no mana. And when they were in the training for like getting selected, it's all the birds are flying around. Asta. Uh-huh.
00:39:40
Speaker
It was also really funny when Nira was in her human form mode and her and Asta were talking about when she used to sleep in the same room and stuff and Noelle was just fuming. It was just like, oh my god, they were always together. They slept together. They did this. They did that. Her freakout was amazing. But yet she has no feelings for Asta.
00:40:03
Speaker
Oh, no, she just beats the living daylights out of him every time she compliments. Yeah, it's almost like that. She's like has like a kindergartner's mentality. Like I like the boy, but I'm just going to be mean to him and hit him all the time. Oh, I totally forgot that the Black Bulls have a vice captain that knocked Faust. Yeah, who doesn't show up, but he's one of those ones at the end that I mean, he's in the last episode that is where he sits there and basically shows
00:40:32
Speaker
shows Asta how to like come to terms with his devil. Yeah, because he's just so like, like for the longest time I was sitting like, they don't have a vice one and he doesn't show up until near the end. Yeah. But then he gets, he's kind of important too because he seems kind of, again, every one of the black bulls is a little bit like, there's something off about them. Oh, yeah.
00:40:56
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Other notable moments.
Intense Confrontations
00:40:58
Speaker
There was one that we teased out a little bit, but I don't think we gave enough appreciation to how badass it was.
00:41:04
Speaker
was when Finral was fighting his brother. I was not ready for how intense that got because he was already beaten, but then his brother was just straight up about to kill him. The way that Magna, Luck, and Asta all showed up, like in the blink of an eye, was one of the coldest scenes in anime I have ever seen. And the way that they threatened him and the way that they were in his face, I was like,
00:41:28
Speaker
Oh, my God. I think the whole next day, like I just found a TikTok of I just kept watching on loop. I was like, this is insane, dude. Yeah. And the thing is, though, that his his his brother is.
00:41:44
Speaker
Arrogant, basically, he's an arrogant little prick because he grew up and he is the well, he was the vice captain of the Golden Dawn and was like the youngest vice captain and was on pace to be the oldest vice or the youngest captain or whatever. And he just like is just an ass.
00:42:10
Speaker
Yeah. And then he challenges, you know, for the vice captainship and you know, beats him and then he just seems to seem like this is like, I'm out of here. I'm done. Yeah. And then he was supposed to be like, like the head honcho of his clan because Feneral just, you know, wasn't as great as he was or whatever. So there's heartbreaking story. There's a lot of like sibling controversies in the show. It really stretches out.
00:42:39
Speaker
But that scene was just so cold and it was insane. But on the flip end of an amazing to watch scene was when they had the games but it was against the captains. Yeah, it was so much fun to watch because you got to see everyone at their peak and what they were capable of.
00:42:56
Speaker
just how they were able to cooperate but also like deal with each other just the matchups was insane and I'm sad that we haven't gotten like more of this dream captain because she is incredible on such a delight to listen to but the fact that she was sleeping for the first half of the show was just like come on dude like you robbed us Oh Dorothy
Dorothy's Dream World
00:43:16
Speaker
Yeah, she uses his his dimension slash like through her world and just destroyed the crystal. So there was no clear winner. I was like, that was a good way to do it because there's no way you could have a winner between these. Her character in the Dark Elf arc arc was fantastic because they got, you know, she was basically possessing them in the dream world. And then they're like, oh, we're getting out. And then it just goes to another dream. And then it's sitting there just like they think we found a way to do it. And like, nope, still dreaming.
00:43:45
Speaker
You know, and it's just, yeah, most of the captains have a very distinct, like, what was it, the green mantises, Jack, Jack the Ripper is the main guy. And basically his main thing is like, he has this really under, like a,
00:44:08
Speaker
The rivalry with Yumi, you know, and it's our sorry, Yami, Yami. And it's just like, OK, where does this come from? And sometimes it even goes down to like them cooking and stuff like that, where like they're always at odds with each other, sort of like, I mean, Asta and, you know, is obvious because they grew up together and they were always rivals, but it always seems like they have each other's back when it comes down to it, even though they're both goal is to be the wizard king. So, yeah.
00:44:35
Speaker
Yeah, it's definitely it's brotherly love and just kind of like healthy competition. Yeah, you know, really is an incredible character. Speaking of the the mantises, the fact that Jack forgot that Seke was on his crew.
00:44:51
Speaker
Yeah, aha. All of his puns are just like throwing ha ha like into a sentence. Always get me. And then he gets like roped into being like the king's right hand because he like accidentally saved him. And he saved him. And so that he was the king's bitch for like the the last half of the show. And he's just like he doesn't know what to do and how to get out of it. But he was also sort of just like I mean, he was a jerk to Asta like at the
00:45:17
Speaker
the magic knights like the first trial thing and he was like tricking him and stuff and but yeah though when he ends up doing that because I says always hey you're the haha guy aren't you and then you get all like sad about it and he's just happening to me
King Clover's Comic Relief
00:45:34
Speaker
Speaking of the King man, what a piece of work that guy is. King Clover. I think that's your favorite character based off our text. He's such just like a dupe. He just hates. He's one of those guys that the
00:45:51
Speaker
So the wizard king, Julius Novachromo, does all this stuff. And then the king hates him because he's more popular than the king is. But then he always takes the credit and then he thinks everyone's cheering at him. And then, especially when they made that group where it was all the people that went to, it was like the
00:46:10
Speaker
the special knights of the magic knights. And it's like the King's Guard or whatever it was. And he's like, yeah, this is all. But it wasn't his idea, you know, when he takes credit for it, because he basically most of the time they show him, he's like sitting on his throne or sitting in a bed and he was like the people around him. And just like he's not doing anything, you know, just worthless. He has comic relief. That's about it. That scene of when
00:46:42
Speaker
What was his name? The Golden Dawn's captain. Vonges. Oh, yes. His reveal. When he came up to Julius and revealed that they could like switch, you know, souls within the body and stuff, I did not see that coming. That blew me away. And I was so sad when Julius went down and the way that Yami had to protect his body, like the care that he has for Julius is just beautiful.
00:47:09
Speaker
Well, even then, and like the Fongeses and Yami's relationship, because theirs goes back to when they were like first, I mean, cause didn't Fongeses was the one that was like, yeah, they were like basically starting in because all we know about Yami is that he's from another land. So he's probably, I think though we don't know much about like the, um, the spade kingdom.
00:47:35
Speaker
I think there's one of the kingdoms where they haven't really talked about, because the hearts are where they're training. The diamonds are the ones that, you know, is the prince of the deposed king and they're attacking everyone. Yeah, that's the one that just got invaded by the spades. Okay, so the spades are the bad guys. Yes. The diamonds are the bad guys.
00:47:54
Speaker
I do the spades of the bad guy. The diamonds, do you remember the other guy when they were looking for the treasure in the raid room? Oh, yeah. I think he was from diamond. Right. And they're the ones that- Oh, him and Fauna are together in diamond. Okay. So the spades, okay, that's right. So that's like, so he, you know, is the prince of the deposed king of the spade king.
00:48:19
Speaker
Yes, that's it. Okay. There's just it's a lot of it's been a while since I've seen it. So we got to get in there. So but yeah, I think my one of my favorite moments is when
00:48:35
Speaker
Yami chooses Asta to be a black bull, even though he's just like he likes the kid. He knows he has no magic power. And then even the scene like when he gets his grimoire and it's the five leaf one because everyone's like, oh, you know, gets the four leaf one, which is like the most powerful one.
Yami's Choice of Asta
00:48:54
Speaker
But the five leaf one is the one that's possessed by the devil. Yeah. And the one group of kids are like the two guys are attacking Asta and linked that alleyway.
00:49:04
Speaker
And because he has no magic power and, you know, comes in and like saves him. And it's just sort of like, OK, now we can see what he could do. But.
00:49:13
Speaker
having him then becoming a black bull and just seeing his, he knows that he has to train hard in everyone in order to be powerful. Cause he's still, even though he has no lick of magic, he wants to be the wizard king. And some of his training regiments, man, it's just like, holy crap. Because by the time you see him in, he gets fricking, he's jacked by the act. Like he is just like ripped like Jesus, man.
00:49:37
Speaker
Remember the scene when he was called in by Julius to clear the curses off the possessed people and he just took the butt of it sort of went And they're doing it doing something like in Like an anime when they do like the the more cartoony type stuff. Yeah, and he does man
00:50:01
Speaker
Another really cool concept of this is that we have four elements and there's a spirit for each one. Salamence's story is super fascinating, how he was initially with Fauna when she was one of the Midnight Sun elves. And then when she, when like her spirit passed on, when she was kind of like back in her own personality, like Salamence needed like a new host. And all this time we had been wondering like the fate of Fuegolion, we were shocked when he lost his arm and then like,
00:50:31
Speaker
When Leo was pushing back the elves, the way that he had his entrance and had that firearm and salivants with him, I was like, oh my god, this was so gratifying to have to wait for him to come back. This is incredible.
00:50:43
Speaker
Yeah, it reminded me of just recently, too, seeing like, you know, you've probably already talked about it. I haven't gotten up to that yet. But like when Best Genis shows up in and Mario, too, they both show up like we thought they were like not powerful or dead and now they're back and it's like you forget about them because there are so many very interesting and great characters on the show.
00:51:05
Speaker
So much so like they started releasing recently like Funko Pops for all the black clovers and I'm like, Oh my God, they've only have 10 so far. I need them to, you know, I need Yami. I need Gordon. I need all these guys start doing it so far. We got only remember four. No, I'm looking at my we got Dorothy Jack. We got Charlotte and Sharla, which is her. It was a chase version, which is her elf version. Noel Luck. Marilyona.
00:51:34
Speaker
And, you know, and there's, there's two Lux, there's one with him and his, when he gets all like a paycheck again, I'm looking at my wall here. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, but there's two Charlotte's and two Lux. So eight care so far. Okay. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. I, I need space space and a paycheck. Um, that helps. Yeah. A little bit.
Elemental Spirits' Roles
00:52:03
Speaker
So that was a fire spirit, and then we have the wind spirit, which is a lot more brat-ier than I ever expected. Like, her dialogue sometimes is like, somebody please step on her. For God's sake, somebody says she's so jealous too. The way that her and Asta go back and forth, like, Asta's the biggest threat to her. It's so funny!
00:52:26
Speaker
Just because he's, I don't know, it's. Yeah. And then we just have the loving nature of the water one, but it is just kind of cool saying like how impactful they are and how different they are and just the way that they contribute to like this world of mana, which keeps getting bigger and bigger. I'm very impressed with the show. Yeah. Um, last thing on our docket. Do you have a favorite song or favorite songs? Um, I can say.
00:52:55
Speaker
Okay, so I listened to Spotify's got a black clover opening and closing credits
Impactful Black Clover Songs
00:53:01
Speaker
one. Yeah, I've been listening to the album music version of that. It's perfect. Because even like the slower songs, like four are beautiful, beautiful weight and it is on the ending credits of the last like episode 170 when they're doing it's not like an ending credit where it's
00:53:20
Speaker
Um, they're showing you the credits. It's actually like the, the show, the last episode goes all the way till the end. So they're playing the ending music with some of the credits, but they're still showing scenes going on. Yeah. But as far as like the ones that, um, hit you as far as like our bops are guess who is back.
00:53:40
Speaker
Yep. Um, grandeur. I just love that one. Cause that one is just, that's the one that the last episode two, it's the last open. It was when the last, like when we were all hyped up for everyone's glow ups and everything, like.
00:53:53
Speaker
There's two songs by this guy named Vica Blanca. Vica Blanca. It's Black Catcher and Black Rover. Yep. Those ones, especially the use of the heavy guitars, but also piano in them too, is just really cool. And I think that the original, the first
00:54:13
Speaker
a hero crew Haru Kamir I a which is the first opening song. They use it a lot because they use it to like when they're doing like the flashbacks. It's sort of like one pieces we are it's like one little alchemist. Yeah, it's like the one that it's the first
00:54:28
Speaker
opening and so that's the one like I'm sure like with that Demon Slayer that first opening song is like people recognize that most of the theme and it's like they use it as like an overture or they do like they'll recall a lot whenever they do the montages and stuff. Yeah, like you know that so but every one of them is there's not a single one. I find myself humming even like against all gods or
00:54:55
Speaker
It's a swanky dank song. The one that, do you want to die? Do you want to die? Amazing dreams. Amazing dreams, yeah. All the songs on it are just, it reminds me of the, I have that, and I listen to that with the one-piece stuff too. Every song reminds you of when you hear a song, it also puts you in the mindset of like, okay, this song reminds me of this arc because it was the song that was always playing for that arc too.
00:55:20
Speaker
like whenever I hear black catcher the way that it starts with just the piano like I always picture Nero like falling from the sky during that piano part and then her just turning back into the bird and flying it's just it's so beautiful uh another cool thing that I really appreciated was
00:55:35
Speaker
On the earlier seasons when the show was ending the music would start as it was finishing up the dialogue and then like roll into the credits instead of it just being like a hard stop into the credits I thought that was really impressive, but my favorite song I mean you named four of my top five so
00:55:52
Speaker
way to break that. But the same people that did Grandeur, Snowman, are the ones that did Stories, which is my absolute favorite. There's just an emotional reaction to listening to that song. That's my last one. I got Stories listed.
00:56:10
Speaker
That was like that in Rakugaki Page, which is the heavy guitar one, but that one is more like, it's really great music, but then the vocals on it come in. It's really, I don't like it when you have a fast vocal and then like
00:56:29
Speaker
It's like it's a slower, longer vocals. It's like it doesn't seem to fit, but that jam is so good. It's like there's no skippers like when you're listening to. I have it on like I'm not working or whatever and it's just like a lot of the songs, even like I said, the slower songs too are just really great music. So I think it's- Does Spotify have Grand Oran stories?
00:56:55
Speaker
Yeah, they got Grandeur, but it's by Miura Jam. It's the dub version. Okay. But a lot of the guys sounds like
00:57:07
Speaker
Yeah, they do a good job. Like, I had the studio, Yuriki, one of Grandor, too, but, like, I don't get what it is with Snowman. Like, you can only find their stuff on YouTube. You can't purchase it anywhere. It's not streaming anywhere. Like, let me support you. You have two incredible songs that never leave my brain.
00:57:25
Speaker
You know, it's really funny, too, about this, and it seems like it's like that way at a lot of anime is that when they're singing in Japanese, a lot of the songs also, they they switch into English a lot of times, too. Like, or it's just like I was looking at, especially on Spotify, when they have the show, the lyrics, it'll just be the Japanese characters and then English word Japanese, English word. So some of them are very
00:57:53
Speaker
obvious they don't speak English very well because they're doing the L's and R's switch off and they're putting the wrong emphasis on the wrong syllable. They're not doing it, but it's nothing to bat an eye over because I'm listening to it. Most of the time, I'm like, I don't care what they're saying,
00:58:15
Speaker
The melody of the vocals and the song itself are just great. Yeah, that's all you need. Have you ever seen that meme where it's like, I only know one line of the song, but I'm going to go hard on it every time it comes on? Yeah. That's how I feel about the one English part whenever it comes to these songs. It's like, I know this part.
00:58:32
Speaker
That's why I was surprised. I get confused sometimes too, because I was listening to them interchangeably, but that the Fire Force, the Mayday intro, or like the opening song. Oh, I love Mayday. Especially because I've listened to Rio on Crystal Lake so much before that.
00:58:47
Speaker
that song just is like it you could listen to it and it'll just like that's on my like my exercise like pump up songs like I'll listen to like Muse Hysteria and then like Mayday will come on like yeah I'm telling I'm inferno and then Mayday right after yeah that's why I said manga or um animes are great with
00:59:10
Speaker
picking music that just, even sometimes when you listen to it outside of the context, it's like, how does this song fit with this show? Just does.
00:59:20
Speaker
So listeners, if anybody wants BBKs or mind anime playlists, just let us know in the email animation deliberation podcast at gmail.com. We'll happily share it. I've got. Yeah, I've got my my Spotify. I mean, some of them are curated by me. Some of them are curated by other people. But on my, you know, Spotify download is I've got Black Clover. I've got fairy tale. I got my hero. I got
00:59:46
Speaker
like four different one piece ones. I've got the like a fire force. It's just some Naruto ones in there. So like I said, the animation was better on that show. I hate when Andrew's done. Disrespect. Oh, man. I think that's all I got.
01:00:12
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I mean, I'm sure we could talk for another three hours about every other anime out there, but... Yeah. I mean, this was like a Black Clover Plus, but it always like... Oh, definitely. We haven't talked about it in a while either, so it was well overdue. It always like finds its way back to what we need to talk about anyway, so... Yeah. Anything that you would like to plug for your show?
01:00:33
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Um, just come listen to source pages. We handle comics mainly sometimes novels. We talk about them as primers or continuations or adaptations for TV shows or movies. We just did where we are.
01:00:49
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in the middle of, I should say in the middle of, we just recorded our third episode of the 2014 or 2015 Secret Wars, which is the whole thing together is 140 issues of comics, and it's a bunch of tie ins, but it seems like that's the way it has a lot to do with multiverse and what's going on in the MCU. And those are actually been doing really well. We basically do stuff. We
01:01:19
Speaker
We got some stuff coming up for Guardians 3 where we're going to focus one episode on Anna Morlock, one episode on High Evolutionary, just to get you a little more used to characters in their comic forms before you see them in the movie so you sort of know what the motivation is. Marvel is really good at taking a character or a storyline.
01:01:39
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but not giving you exactly what you've read already, so. Nice. Yeah. June is going to be very busy month for the both of us. Oh yeah, especially because with Secret Invasion and there's just movies and TV shows and
01:01:52
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got Spider-Verse, Flash, Elements, Indiana Jones and Transformers. Yeah, there's a lot of, we mainly, there's some things that we just basically don't cover because we have too much. It's, it's, we basically Marvel's our main thing. We do Star Wars. We do some DC stuff.
01:02:13
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for the Shazam Fury, the gods, Andrew from the show was on there because he's sort of our DC go-to guy. And he picked a run that we were just like, oh, how is this going to fit? And it actually helped a lot with understanding a lot of the stuff in the movie. So yeah, that's our main feedback we get is, man, listening to this show actually gives me a little bit better, you know, understanding of what I'm watching before and after I see it. So yeah, we appreciate it.
01:02:42
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All right, so check out source pages, leave them review after you're done leaving us a five star review. BVK, thanks for joining on this special edition of Anime Deliberate. Yes. You finally got to do one. More because of the future. Two years in the making. Anime Deliberate, a special edition of Animation Deliberation. Thank you again for listening and be sure to tune in next time. That's T-double-O-N-I-N and as always, stay well. Be excellent to each other.