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Jujutsu Kaisen S2 E16: Thunderclap
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The fanning over action continues as Megumi faces off against Toji while Sukana and Gojo are hashing it out!
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Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:01
Speaker
On another exciting episode of the animation-delibration-clockcast, we continue fanning over Toji as we talk about Jujukai's in Season 2, Episode 16, Thunderclap, right up to these ads, we have no control over. Sing along, if you know the words. It's animation, deliberation, a conversation, and a celebration of our favorite action animated series, yeah.
00:00:24
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of Animation Deliberation, the podcast where we take action animation and cartoon seriously, but not too seriously. I am your host, Suhara Lee, who apparently forgot to count at the beginning of this and is just completely unhinged because I'm by myself. We know how those go. It is very rambly. It is very all over the place, but
Episode Recap and Summary
00:00:45
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Thankfully, there's not too much to talk about this episode because it was very action-heavy, so there isn't too much story development that we really need to talk about. I'm just going to get right into reading off the synopsis and just kind of sharing some quick thoughts. Next couple of weeks, Andrew will be on vacation, so you might get unhinged zoo every week. Might have a guest slip in here and there, but for now, we're settling with this.
00:01:16
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So, Episode 16, Thunderclap. Megami fights Toji, but continues to be overwhelmed by his speed and power.
00:01:23
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The two eventually corner each other and nearly get a deadly hidden, forcing them to back off. Toji recalls back to when he sold Megumi to the Zenins and asks Megumi for his name, which he responds for Shigeru. Toji kills himself by stabbing his own head, satisfied with how he turned out. Megumi is about to head to Shoko to get healed, but is surprise attacked by Haruta.
00:01:47
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Meanwhile, Kusakabe has been stalling with Panda, patrolling around Shibuya so as to not get into any fights. When they encounter some of Geito's old followers, their fight is then interrupted by Sugina and Gojo's battle.
00:02:02
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Jogo unleashes his tremendous firepower, absolutely decimating Shibuya, but Sukuna is able to evade and counteract with an incredible intensity, even sparing some time around to toy around with the sorcerers caught in the middle trying to escape. Sukuna eventually uses his open technique, revealing his capability to use fire to fight Jogo head-on. Jogo was promptly burned to death,
00:02:26
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where he reunites with Hanumi and Dagon in a white void as they express their desire to see each other again. And Sukuna compliments Jogo on his strength. Sukuna then reunites with the curse user from his past. Uda Ume? Uda Ume. I'm gonna go with that. While elsewhere a creature starts to attack Haruta and an unconscious Megumin. So...
00:02:50
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As someone who doesn't read the manga, made that very clear, I like the reactions that I can give to you guys when I watch an anime for the first time. What was the purpose of Toji? Is there more stuff coming up with him? Because the first time I asked this is when we had our recapping. I was like, man, love this character. He's got to pop up for some reason.
00:03:13
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There's no reason that they would just like tease us with such an awesome action character and then not fulfill anything with it. So we were excited when he got resurrected through the medium the way that he did to the seance.
Narrative Importance of Toji's Return
00:03:30
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And all of his action sequences have been incredible to watch like that alone.
00:03:36
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is enough of a reason to have him back. But in regards to pushing the story forward, what did we really get out of his return? They could have had a fight with this grandma and dude on a rooftop, and the same dude got beat up the way that he did, and Megumi still helping out with the heroes, just being able to take out that villain and then coming out.
00:04:02
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I don't see what Toji's presence did for pushing the story. Like, he didn't even get to have a heart-to-heart conversation with him, there wasn't any interaction, and now he's like bleeding out on the side of a building, so... I don't get it. I really don't get it. And I'd love to hear from you guys from this, so...
00:04:30
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animation deliberation podcast at gmail.com DMS on any of the social medias x Instagram Facebook But I just I don't get it and I was kind of let down by that because I was hoping for something more Fulfilling in a relationship aspect between him and his son he interacted with the zenin clan head he interacted with Maki and I liked the comment of
00:05:00
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Megumi saying like oh he's like a perfected version of her like that's a cool hint of like what Maki could become and I talk about how with the ranks that they have for the sorcerers it's cool that they've been consistent with what they're capable of doing so I like that Toji is kind of the ceiling for what Maki can be which god I would love to see that
00:05:28
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But again, as much as I love Toji, as much as his appearance has been awesome from an action animation standpoint, I don't see why he needed to be in this at all, aside from because we can't. In terms of Megumi, he really does seem like the ultimate support character, because I feel like when he's
00:05:58
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not working with other people. He's typically fighting for a little bit and then running away. There was definitely a lot of running away. And I wonder if these hairs are like, resurrectable, like did they go back to the little shadow realm thing or did they actually die because they got messed up. So, and there's nothing wrong with being an ultimate support character. I think
00:06:22
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If I was in an anime, that's definitely what I would be as well. So it's it's cool to see how capable he is, how smart he is, what he's able to do with the creatures he has at his disposal. He's very aware of a situation. So it's like, let me just take a couple of these hits because I know what can get healed, what cannot get healed. The dude that slashed him, I thought that anatomy messed him up. So I was surprised to see him pop back up the way that he did. But it seems like some other creatures about to mess him up. So.
00:06:53
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Yeah, that guy's quite the nuisance. I can't wait till he gets messed up even more. You can tell I'm really trying to watch my language here. Oh, and him too. So I don't think I have too much more to say like on the, the Fushiguro Zenin fight. Thought it was really interesting that he stabbed himself in the head. It's just like a prom good with this guy.
00:07:20
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Like, because he was so mission focused, like, he didn't even have, like, any of his wit. Like, he wasn't talking through any of these fights, it was just so mission focused, so... I don't know. Maybe the manga readers are listening to me, like, oh, just wait, just wait, buddy, just wait. So, I hope that's the case, but it's just kind of a waste of a character, if not... Animation. Deliberation.
00:07:46
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So the animation for this, I know I've been, I've had my opinion on all season and this is another one where it's like,
Animation Quality Critique
00:07:57
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why can't you guys just make up your mind? I love the no shading look when it comes to the action part of these things.
00:08:08
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because it's fast, it's dynamic, you get fluid motions out of it. There's nothing really in the way from stopping and seeing what's going on. But we've been having these talks about the state of the animators and how overworked they are and they haven't had the time to work on the end of these things that are crammed and yada yada.
00:08:29
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I get the no shading look for the action sequence, but everything about this episode just looked so lazy. Like what was wrong with Panda? He looked like he was just glitching the whole time. Any interaction with them, any moving around, nothing seemed fluid, nothing lined up like this is I'm watching this.
00:08:49
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in Japanese but for some reason like the mouth movements like it's not even like precise I'm not even being too picky about like lip movement or whatnot but it just did not connect it did not connect and I just I really wish that map I would just slow down and get it stuff together like Attack on Titans done now we will have an episode on that by the way just there was a lot to process there
00:09:17
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Attack on Titan is done. Chainsaw Man's season one is done. I get they're working on One Punch Man. They got all the mans. But if you're gonna make us wait this long for a season anyways, there's no excuse to not put the proper time and resources into
00:09:41
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keeping a consistent product and they have not been doing that. Especially if we're going to deliver something as incredible as the Edidorian Jojo fight. Like why? Why is why is this what you were able to give us? So whatever is going on in that front, like. Fix it, please, because I just I hate having to have this conversation for me, it's.
00:10:08
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You gotta do a pretty bad job for me to need to address it at all, if not like this frequently. Because I like to fill the seams with my imagination or whatnot. So for it to just get this far, it's just what's going on, guys? Get it together. It's not that hard to have a consistent identity for an animation style, is it? Correct me if I'm wrong.
00:10:35
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I feel like every anime I've seen is just pretty unique with what they want to do. And this one's just like, you know, spinning the wheel or pulling a style out of a hat. Like this episode is going to look like this. Like, no, it doesn't work like that. It's not. It's not pretty. Sukhan is off the chains. I love his smack talking. It's terrifying and interesting, like how he just plays around with another special grade.
00:11:03
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but also I feel like Joko was just written to get beat up by the most badass characters in the series. Just between like how Gojo tossed them around and how this is pretty entertaining. I question the longevity of this show because all these big threats are getting knocked out within season two. So I don't know if it's going to be something like Demon Slayer where it actually has an intention of being a short series, but I guess we'll see.
00:11:33
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Again, his movements and stuff were cool. The action was fun.
Thoughts on Kusagabe's Technique
00:11:37
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I like that he actually said, like, I'm not going to explain my powers just because we're at the end of this. So that brought up some curiosity of, like, all right, tickle me intrigued. I want to see more. RIP, Jogo, I guess.
00:11:52
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Not even too many questions to ask from this. The guy who was procrastinating, what was his name again? The one that was with Panda. Kusagabe. I love how he just doesn't want to get into fights, but then it's like when he does, like his technique actually looks really cool. So it's like, all right, you got something to show here. Like figure it out. There's there's people that I want to see it. Let's get this going.
00:12:18
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to have them want to see Panda in action, especially with what they did with him and Jujutsu Guys Zero, like his action sequences are just phenomenal and they definitely need to get that going. So I'm not sure if I have
00:12:36
Speaker
too much more to add here that's not redundant i hope you guys like these quick episodes i'm really curious what you all think of the show i know there's some people who just kind of wait for the season to end up or wait for it to come in english i can't wait for it to be in english i feel like i'm going to appreciate it a lot more just because i'm so used to those characters and with how much explanation stuff goes on i just feel like it's going to flow better when i don't have to read and process and track all at the same time
00:13:03
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So that's it for me today.
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00:13:05
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00:14:02
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00:14:20
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