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Demon Slayer: The Hashira Training Arc
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Not only do we get new Demon Slayer content, but we get to witness it in all of it's IMAX glory! Sarah-Daye of the Peevs' Gabfest podcast joined me in theaters, and now joins me on the podcast to talk about the season premiere!
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Demon Slayer Returns
00:00:01
Speaker
On another exciting episode of the Animation Delibration podcast, not only has Demon Slayer married its return, but it's actually popping up in theaters! We got to watch it in all of its IMAX glory and we are so excited to talk about it. This is Demon Slayer, the Hashira training arc, right over these ads. We have no control over. Sing along if you know the words.
00:00:19
Speaker
It's animation, deliberation, conversation, and a celebration of a favorite action animated series, yeah.
Podcast Introduction
00:00:28
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of Animation Deliberation, the podcast where we take action animation and cartoon seriously, but not too seriously. I'm your host, Zuhara Lee, and joining me today, I didn't forget my name for a second. I was about to say, did you forget? I was still happy I remembered everything else because it's been like this too much hiatus. I was like, what was my name?
Guest Host: Sarah Day McDougall
00:00:49
Speaker
I know I was like teaching martial arts tonight and we had a new person come in and I've gotten so I'm trying to get better at introducing myself as girls who hair because like I'm still in this weird phase of like not feeling like I earned the title but like I'm trying to get better at saying it. So I was like, why would I call myself girl on a podcast?
00:01:08
Speaker
That lovely voice that you guys hear is one of the hosts of Pizzas Gap Fest, Sarah Day McDougall. Thank you for joining me today. Absolutely. All right. So before we get into the Demon Slayer talk, do you guys do you want to tell the people what your podcast is about, what you guys are working on right now and any future guests you guys maybe have been coming on?
00:01:25
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. So we host a chapter by chapter page to screen analysis of the Harry Potter series. And what that is, is we read the chapter of the book and then compare that section of the movie. And we do break down the times for you so you can read and watch along with us.
00:01:44
Speaker
We are just finishing up the Chamber of Secrets now. And usually when we finish up a book, we have Zuhair come on and talk about his thoughts as a previously movie only viewer. And now he is reading the books for the first time along with us. So it's great to get your perspective on the stories.
00:02:06
Speaker
Yeah, the problem is that I start reading and then I get really into it, which says a lot for me because I'm not a book reader, but the series like actually keeps me. It's so good. So then it's like, I have to wait for you guys to get like a head start on putting out episodes for the chapters. And then I just go through the whole book in a couple of weeks and it's like, and now I wait.
Impact of Harry Potter on Sarah
00:02:28
Speaker
Yeah, well, I mean, it's a great series and it's the first series I ever read.
00:02:33
Speaker
on my own. My parents would read it to me in the early years and then I think it was the fourth book was like the first big kid chapter book that I read on my own.
00:02:45
Speaker
And then I would, that was like the first series I would stay up all night to try to finish. And so it's just a really exciting time for, I guess, if you don't know, we started this podcast because Max HBO has announced they are making a new series. So we are excited to see what the series could do with the show. It's just a very exciting time to be a Harry Potter fan. It's sort of looking for writers recently, right?
00:03:10
Speaker
Yes, they've narrowed it down at the time of this recording to three writers. Nice. I have thoughts on that, but I'll save it for you afterwards. Oh, yes. Anything else you want to hear me? You've got to go over to listen to P. Scabbas to hear his thoughts. Yeah, check that out as soon as you're done with this episode.
00:03:27
Speaker
But as you guys know, we've been gone for a while.
Hosts' Hiatus and Anime Excitement
00:03:30
Speaker
Myself, Jay Scott and Andrew all kind of had like life changes at the same time. So it was just just kind of take a break. And then like all this stuff got announced between Demon Slayer and Bad Batch and the live action avatar. And now we know that My Hero Academia is coming back soon. There's rumors of like an hour to live action. So it's just like my the excitement just shot back up. It's like, OK, we have things to talk about behind the start. So, yeah, we back.
00:03:56
Speaker
It was a nice break. I was dying from the flu at one point and then just like hurting and then traveling. So I was just like, yeah, let's just let's just podcast for podcasting again.
Demon Slayer in Theaters
00:04:05
Speaker
So I got to see you almost a week ago now because we got to watch this together. This was another consistent thing that Demon Slayer has been doing where after every season they have a theatrical release of some sort. And with how much we've complained about like Jujutsu Kaisen and Mappa not being able to
00:04:22
Speaker
communicate how they're doing things. It's very nice that we've had this consistent schedule of we get a teaser trailer of some sort. We get to watch the last episode of a season and the beginning of a new one in theaters, wait a couple of months, and then we get to watch streaming. So it's like it's like clockwork. We know what to expect from you, Photoball and Demon Slayer. And that's been super exciting. Was this your first time doing the theater? Really, I go with you to see Mugen Train.
00:04:50
Speaker
Did you? I watched that like three times too. If it wasn't with you, I definitely went with my husband. No, you didn't watch that one with me. Okay, Matthew and I went to see it then for sure. But you didn't get to do. I definitely saw that in Deuter. So to talk about the first half, because they did the last episode of Swords of Village, which was a 40, 45 minute episode on its own. What was it like, because you were like kind of forgetting some of the details too, what was it like watching that and then watching it like on IMAX?
00:05:20
Speaker
Well, first of all, they started with a recap of kind of the past few arcs, which was really great and beneficial to me because I'm the type of person I can rewatch something multiple times because I forget immediately what has happened.
00:05:36
Speaker
So it was really helpful to have that kind of recap and then to have that as soon as the episode started playing, it brought everything back. And I'm like, yeah, I know exactly how this plays out. But it was beautiful on the IMAX. And I mean, we have a decent sized television, but it's older. I mean, all of our TVs are probably five to 10 years old, so they could all be updated.
00:06:01
Speaker
So to go from that to this just huge and the sound also was just wild. It was a really cool experience because I don't I don't think I guess if we didn't go see MOOC and train with you then we just saw it our regal. So still wasn't I mean better than a TV but still not that awesome IMAX experience. And the music just hits differently when it's like vibrating through your body.
00:06:27
Speaker
Yeah, I had two favorite IMAX moments. I'll save the second one for later, but the first one was when Muichiro throws the sword from the cliff, like hearing the sword spin from one side of the room to the other, speaker-wise, and the way it dug into the ground like that, and the way it just echoed.
00:06:46
Speaker
Oh, man, everything about that was just so, so dope. There was a couple of points for me to say this. I was like, man, they need to turn this down a little bit because it's really freaking loud. It's one of those things where it's like the series alone just gets you so involved emotionally to have like that level of detail to compliment. It was just just such an overpowering experience, especially the stuff that we got to see for a second time.
00:07:11
Speaker
It almost makes it like a 4D experience because the volume, like we're saying, it's so loud. There's one moment I forget, but it was some sort of bang or maybe it was the sword hitting the ground, but I literally felt it vibrate through my body and I'm like, whoa, that's a lot. Yeah. The second one that I want to mention was definitely one that made me go, whoo.
00:07:38
Speaker
All right, so Demon Slayer at the time of this recording came out last Friday. I'm not even going to try to see what date that was. But it got the number two spot for its opening weekend at eleven point six million in the States, just two million shy of topping Bob Marley. Oh, not bad for a February release and something like so much hype of this. I mean, our theater was pretty much packed, like we had people sitting in the handicap section and like all the way in like the uncomfortable front part. We were in the good part. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:07
Speaker
So overall, just great experience. If you guys have the time to watch this in theaters before it comes out in Crunchyroll, which I think is either end of March or beginning of April. They haven't given a definite date, but just based off past release schedules, this is kind of like the time frame that people have been thinking. And it's just so cool to see your favorite anime up on the big screen. Yeah.
00:08:28
Speaker
It's awesome. I love demons that are pacing for everything. I think that's a contributing factor for why I like this series so much, that it's consistent. So quick disclaimer for returning listeners and new listeners. For both of you guys, thank you for coming back and listening.
00:08:48
Speaker
We are anime watchers. We are not manga readers. So we don't know what's happening next. We enjoy the speculation. We enjoy seeing the animation for the first time. So if you guys are sending in feedback, please remember that we do not read the manga. Please do not spoil anything for us. We're going to try to stay as blind as possible going into this. But for anime fans, like obviously this is the place to be.
00:09:12
Speaker
So I'm going to give a quick recap of what happened on the Hasho training arc.
Hashira Training Arc Overview
00:09:18
Speaker
So the quick synopsis is, since Nezuko is revealed to be immune to sunlight, demon attacks have halted. The Demon Slayer core know that Muzan Kibutsuji is plotting to take her. A new destructive confrontation is coming.
00:09:30
Speaker
In the calm before the storm, Kaguya enacts strict training for all its members. Even the Hashira and Tanjiro use the grueling process to better himself and know just a little more about the strongest demon slayers in the organization. So I saw the teaser trailer for this.
00:09:49
Speaker
And what I figured was happening was that the series was going to be about the Hashira training with each other. I thought it was going to be like the best of the best, like getting themselves ready to go into battle. And at the end of the episode, so we're in full spoiler territory now.
00:10:08
Speaker
And the end of the episode, like when they show the credits, like they show what the new opener is going to be. Yeah. So you'll get little hints of like what's going to happen in the series based off of the opener. And you see Shinnezagawa and Toji. What's the water Hashira's name? Why am I forgetting that one now?
00:10:25
Speaker
The water or Hashira on the wind, Hashira, you see them fighting like with the wooden sticks, but you can still see like the animation of like their elements coming in. So it looks like that is something that is going to be coming down the road, but it's not what we saw in this episode. Did you have any impressions coming into this movie or were you nothing? Oh, cool. You just knew the name. If that I didn't even know the name, I just knew it was the demons, the next demon slayer arc. And you know, I'm sold at this point. So I'm you know, between you and my husband, I'm just like along for the ride for demon slayer. Yeah.
00:10:57
Speaker
any particular part or anything like what was your overall impression of like what you saw?
Nezuko's Sun Immunity Speculation
00:11:01
Speaker
I think it's going to be a really exciting arc. And I mean, from the ending of the last one, knowing that Nesuko can now walk in the daylight, you know, we already knew that was going to be a really interesting and exciting development moving forward.
00:11:18
Speaker
but then seeing the movie and knowing what this next arc is bringing, it's just gonna be so much fun seeing the Hashira. I mean, and even the glimpses that we got when they were describing what each training module is going to be with each Hashira, it was already very comedic. So this is going to be just a really fun arc, but on the flip side, it's going to be really intense.
00:11:44
Speaker
with what you know, like, are the demons going to be training? What's going on on that side of of the aisle to Yeah, from the
00:11:54
Speaker
training aspect of it. I really liked that we had two meetings to go through and actually getting to hear like what the logistics of all of this is because you got to think like demon slayers have a very young lifespan and nobody in the Hasura training room is over 30. I think the stone Hasura is the oldest at like 28. So we're talking like early 20s, early 25s, talking about the fate of the world and commanding all these people who are going to
00:12:21
Speaker
essentially eliminate demons, like that's the goal right now. So for them to have that on their shoulders, and we're being reminded of that, like it understand it explains a lot more of their behavior, like you the water Hasura, like how he was just trying to walk out, he was like, I don't have time for this shit. I got other things to do, like leave me alone. You saw how much
00:12:45
Speaker
the wind. Hashira was getting upset by that. So but like his reactions make sense because of all the scars you see on him. Like he's gone through a lot. We got his backstory through Genya's perspective of how he could have like now realizing he could have saved his mom and he had to kill her back in the day when she turned into a demon to protect his brother. So like a lot of these guys have a lot on their shoulders. We've seen the backstory for the wind, Hashira.
00:13:14
Speaker
the Flame Hashira, Rengoku, Rest in Peace, the Insect Hashira, and now the Mist Hashira. So there's still four where it's like we don't know their backstory or we have Love Hashira as well. So I guess there's three where we don't know their backstory.
00:13:30
Speaker
We don't know snake, we don't know stone, we don't know waters yet. So hearing this logistics of like, this Hofstra is good at training or good at this part. So he's going to teach these people doing that. But also understanding that like these are top tier guys who have only trained people that they've picked up, like one person, probably each, if that.
00:13:52
Speaker
And that everybody else is just kind of been like trying to fend on their own like they haven't learned from the best of the best I haven't even had the opportunity to so the fact that they can recognize like hey like we should probably we've been complaining for three seasons now that these guys are weak and we complain about them and they don't know what they're doing and they're being like they don't care and they're being
00:14:13
Speaker
you know, knocked off really quick. Maybe we should train them and try to keep them alive a little longer since this big war is coming up. So I really like those meetings and perspective just kind of like put all that out there. Yeah. So a lot of good stuff on that front. I do have to to address what was by far the funniest thing to happen in this episode. I cannot stand any two screaming, but that
00:14:42
Speaker
I think I know where this is going. The karma of Nezuko coming out, him freaking out, and him saying, the only name she could say is Inosuke. The way he got triggered had me ganged around. That was so amazing. Yes, that was a very good sequence. As soon as you said the funniest moment, I knew exactly what you were going to say. Yeah, they did spend a lot of time with everybody's recovery and everything.
00:15:10
Speaker
But just everything about that interaction was amazing. Every time that I watch Nezuko when we find out that she is alive in the way that she says, or it's good morning or Ohio, like always brings tears to my eyes. Like to know what's going to happen, I think this is a very underrated thing about people consuming content now. It's like to know what's going to happen but still have an emotional reaction.
00:15:33
Speaker
or to get so caught up that you don't even think about logistics and you just like get emotional over it. Like that one hits me every time. So to see her at this point where she's playing around with the four girls, like having a good time and out in the sun and Tanja doesn't have to worry about her as much. And she's just chilling and being a kid again and learning how to talk and getting along with people. It's just it's my feels, all the feels. Right. And you mentioned that like it creates such a emotional impact. And I
00:16:03
Speaker
The first time I saw it, I remember Matt was like, do you think she's really going to die? I'm like, of course not. I know she's not going to die, but I still cried when he realized, when she kicked him away and he had to go save the people instead of her, I was emotional then. Then when it turns out she can walk in the sun and she says the good morning and he breaks down, I cried again.
00:16:27
Speaker
Yeah, it's like I knew she wasn't going to die, but it still really has that emotional punch. Mm hmm. I really want the what if series after all this done, like what if she actually did hide died? He goes on like this anger rampage. Well, I mean, the whole reason why he is in the demon slayer course because of her and he
00:16:51
Speaker
That's what's keeping him going, is that one single family member survived and there's a way to save her and they need to figure that out. And that's, you know, I don't know how he would survive if she were to die. And like, we wouldn't have a show. You know, we just wouldn't. And like, I get what you're saying, like, what if? But I just, I don't, like, it just wouldn't. That's why I knew they weren't going to kill her off. Like, this is the whole purpose of this show is
00:17:20
Speaker
to save her. Yeah. And like as dark as it is, I just knew that's not the route they were going. But yeah, it is interesting to see, you know, their relationship develop and how he's you know, how it's going to change as she's starting to overcome the demon curse thing. Yeah, because there's a question of like,
00:17:46
Speaker
Is she still a demon but has this ability? Is she slowly turning into a human? Right. Because she still hasn't had human blood, right? That's the like the main factor. Right. She has not had any human blood yet. And then we got the lead or from Lady Tamayo about how she was able to use the blood to revert a demon back to a human. And this was the one from season one where
00:18:13
Speaker
Tanjiro interacts with Muzan for the first time and like for a distraction He like scratches the dude in the back of the neck and then it caused like a scene in the city I'm not sure if you remember that But that person that Muzan converted right on the spot Was actually able to be turned back into a human because he hadn't consumed any blood at that point It was like I guess a small injection of Muzan's blood And whatever all that works. So it's like we're making progress and I know that the series is a short series so it's like we're not too far from the end but
Health of Kageya
00:18:43
Speaker
The stakes are just so high right now, and it's really where all this is going to go. And that reminds me of what is going to be another big part of the story is that Kageyaf, the master, is like on his deathbed right now. So when they had the meeting and Lady Amane was the one that started it off, she said like,
00:19:10
Speaker
Oh, by the way, the last time you saw him was going to be the last time that you see him. Like he's not doing well. I'm going to hold this meeting. And then like there's so much love for this man that like, even though everybody was trying to keep their cool, like you feel like everyone's hearts just sinking because it's like, damn, not ever going to see him again. Like it got that bad. And the last time.
00:19:33
Speaker
We got to see this like in the recap, too. The last time everybody was together was the last time everybody was together because we're going to die soon after we retired soon after Kage is on his deathbed right after. And this is another thing where it's like we're seeing him a lot in the opening sequence that we saw at the end of the movie. So it's like I'm curious to see like how much of his interaction
00:19:54
Speaker
is going to be there. What happened in the past that him and Muzan actually have this feud? Like what triggered this? Why is he cursed? Why is he like generationally cursed? I'm really excited to get like answers to these questions of like, how did this happen? Like what is this thousand year war and what got it to this point? I don't remember if it was you that had this theory or my husband, because I feel like we were talking so much after we saw the that they might be related.
00:20:23
Speaker
No, I don't have a related one. OK, so I think Matt's theory then is that the main demon and then the head of the demon Slayer core are like he's a descendant of the main demon. Oh, and somehow like so their blood related somehow. But I was like, oh, that actually makes a lot of sense because. In the new opening that we saw at the end of the film, they seem to mirror each other a lot. Like a lot of that imagery is them being mirrored.
00:20:53
Speaker
So I'm like, oh, that might be like a really good hint towards them being related. Or I mean, it could also be that they're the head of their, you know, good versus evil, but. Yeah, that's how I took it. It's like the war is really between these two and let's go deeper. Yeah, let's go deeper. The other theory that I shared with you before in the movie, when I was doing my rewatch was like, what if the solution to his curse really is just physical blood?
End of Demon Slayer Speculation
00:21:22
Speaker
like the way that she's able to negate demon abilities, like what if I should just like drop the blood? Yeah, I doubt it would be that simple, but it just kind of makes you wonder. Yeah, I mean, that's a good theory, too. I feel like that's it has to come into play more often, you know, do you know how much like is the series the manga complete? Or where are we in the manga? Do you know where we are?
00:21:52
Speaker
There's like maybe two or three arcs left. OK, that's what I thought because it feels like we're coming up on the conclusion because it's so funny because when I think of animates, I think of these very, very long. Like, I mean, look at one piece compared to this where it's like we're already halfway done. Yeah. Yeah. Naruto started early in middle school and I watched the last episode in college. Well, and then I guess fairy tale has a pretty succinct storyline.
00:22:19
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, that's the one thing I appreciate about Demon Slayer is that like I'm going to be bummed when it's over, but I like that they had a plan and they're just sticking with it. Right. And of course, we've had like a lot of characters in backstory and the story has been going on for so long that you could have spinoffs that just kind of show like another character's past. Like we could see like what some of these Hashira did to get to the point that they're at, what their lives were like and their experiences were like. And even all this mystery about like
00:22:47
Speaker
We know that Muzan faced against a demon slayer that still like makes him piss himself to this day. And he looks similar to Tanjiro, but there's like this upper ranked number one demon that looks just like him. So it's like, is he that person? Are they brothers? Are they relatives? Like what happened there? So it's like those characters like that that we can have like a full backstory or a whole series like based off of those kind of people. What's up?
00:23:16
Speaker
So the talking about the first that he or Shira that scares the demon. Sorry, guys, I'm very bad at names, so I just use the name at you. That's why I don't want to look it up. OK, so when the last arc, when they were fighting with that mechanic, the robot, yeah, the six arm robot, nobody mentioned that he and Tanjiro have the same earrings. Yeah.
00:23:47
Speaker
nobody mentioned that. And I was like, this is going to be such a cool plot point. And then they never mentioned it. I was like, wait a minute. But they're wearing the same earrings. Yeah. But Senduro, who is daddy Ren Goku, fully beat the crap out of Tanjiro for wearing those earrings. He knows that that's a mark of the sunbreed. It's like,
00:24:09
Speaker
You're wearing those earrings. I know who you are. I know your people and your family and blah, blah, blah. It's like, can you answer some questions for me, please? Yes, I know. So it's like we as the audience are like, oh, there's something to these earrings. But I guess every every day person must be like, oh, whatever. He's wearing
Rewatching Demon Slayer
00:24:22
Speaker
earrings.
00:24:22
Speaker
It's going to be fascinating to revisit, rewatch this whole anime when it's all said and done and go back and watch it all the way through knowing everything that we don't know yet. One thing that they said in one of the very early episodes, it was the first time that we met Hagan Azuka.
00:24:41
Speaker
And you know how he just like talks about smithing and having the swords and stuff like someone will talk to him, he's just not paying attention. So he was talking about how the sword was forged on the highest part of the mountain that is always bathing in the sun.
00:24:56
Speaker
Like that's how he described the forge that the sword was made at. And this was like episode three and everything is about walking in the sun and sun breathing and all this stuff. So it's like the fact that there was this so much detail about how the sword relates to the sun and the whole process of that. And then everything else in the story being so heavily related to the sun, it was like, wow, it was literally just out there in the beginning. Not to bring this back to Harry Potter, but
00:25:26
Speaker
That's what I keep saying I'm excited about the show for is that the books are completed now. Whereas when the movies were coming out, they weren't completed. So they missed some really good Easter eggs that the show can now include. And so, you know, that's something about the anime or I'm sorry, the manga being completed. The show knows what to the anime knows what to include and make, you know, have those Easter eggs throughout the show because they know what's going to be important.
00:25:55
Speaker
Yeah. I'm going to be so sad when the show ends, but I'm just I love the direction that it's going in right now. Like I wanted so much more in this movie because a lot of it was dialogue, but it was such a dialogue. Yes. So we are talking about like Hagan Azuka. He did pop up in this episode because I think Tanjiro is on sword number three right now, number three and number four.
00:26:18
Speaker
But this was the one that came out of the robot. It finally went through its process. He had to do like the de-rusting process for three days, three nights in a row. So he finally finished it. And not only is it the sword from like what could be one of Tondro's ancestors, you don't have the answer to that yet. It's one of the finest steels that has ever been used for a demon slayer sword. But now it has a blacker pitch.
00:26:42
Speaker
which is supposed to be a big deal. Like, how did it get even darker? What does this mean? Like, some people are calling it bad luck, but apparently this ancestor relative had like a really dark sword, too. And also we got to see Rengokus hilt being a part of it. Like, nothing better happened to this sword because now it's like extra precious. It's the sword. Yeah, it is the sword. I don't know how you mess it up for me.
00:27:09
Speaker
And knowing that we're like halfway through, it's like, okay, we're, it's almost like it's the turning point in the series, right? So they've been learning and training and now it's time for the real fight.
00:27:29
Speaker
Yeah, we really are good at that point. It's exciting. That's crazy. Yeah, it's going to be a fun arc. Well, say this is like the light hearted arc before we get to a really dark, you know, final battle arc. Yeah. Kasours from Village was two episodes before the demons showed up and things just went wild from there. And the whole season was like, I think 10 episodes with the last one being 40 minutes. So the first one being 40 minutes and the last one being 40 minutes.
00:27:59
Speaker
Yeah, so is this all going to be just training are we going to? Like start to bleed into the next arc which I know what it's called. I'm just trying not to say it
00:28:11
Speaker
Are we going to start to bleed into that? Like how long actually is the training stuff? So it's just like, it's, it's, it's so many questions. And I'm just like, I guess my prediction will be that this, it's going to be like the two stories we're going to be seeing the Hashira training. And then we're going to be seeing what the head demon is doing on his side. Um, because we know that he's looking for Nazuko. So it's going to be like his journey and then the training journey. And then the X, the next arc is going to be like how that.
00:28:39
Speaker
meets. This is not necessarily filler episodes, but like I said, the calm before the storm. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of prioritizing a certain story from here and there. That's just my prediction. In regards to the dialogue and stuff, so I want to get to the part that was the coolest thing to see. Oh wait, no, before I do that,
00:29:02
Speaker
The other scene that made me so happy I watched this in IMAX sound wise is when the Hashira were arguing and the stone Hashira clapped his hands to get to the staff. That's what it was. Yeah, I knew exactly what you were thinking of. When he clapped and everyone was just under a ridiculous amount of pressure and the way that it echoed and the way that the love Hashira was freaking out was just like, this is so cool. Yeah. So that's the moment where I felt it in my body. But on the flip side, there is a moment where
00:29:32
Speaker
I think it's when, it might've been when Nezuko kicks Tanjiro off of her and is basically saying, go save the people, not me. And it's like the music stops, all the sounds stopped in the movie. And it's just like the slow motion of him flying in the air. I think that's what it was. But our theater was also completely silent. And from going from that loud feeling in your body to complete silence, you really felt that emotional impact.
00:29:59
Speaker
Like everybody was like mid chew on their popcorn. Nobody was sneezing. Nobody was coughing. Nobody was saying, oh, shit. It was quiet. Like the dude behind us, it was a group of three. And one guy was like, OK, I didn't watch the last season. Like you need to catch me up.
00:30:15
Speaker
And he was trying to explain the stuff as I was going. And at one point, I turned around, I was like, dude, you're shit out of luck. And then they got a little recap. So I guess they knew what was happening. But the fact that even in that moment, I know that that was that guy's first time ever watching it. And even he was just totally stunned. He didn't know what to say at that point. We were with a really good crowd.
00:30:38
Speaker
Yeah, I think so too. I think for something like Demon Slayer though, you're not going to have a very big general audience. If you're going to see Demon Slayer in the theater, you know what Demon Slayer is. You're an anime fan. You're there because you want to be there. You're not there just because, oh, this looks good. Yeah.
00:31:01
Speaker
Yeah, it definitely had a great following and a great audience Even the last two times that I went and when I went to go watch book and train It was actually my roommate who was like hey, this movie is hitting the theaters I know you haven't seen the show yet. You have three weeks to catch up and I was like cool So I watched the series for the first time and then went straight into the movie And everything else has just been like super high must been really quick for me too because I
00:31:29
Speaker
I think we knew, because I know that you knew about Demon Slayer before I did. It must have been because the movie was coming out and that's what interested Matt in watching the show. But remember, I saw the first episode and I was like, hell no, I'm not watching the show. This is awful. This is terrible. This is horrible. In a, not in a, it's a bad show kind of way, listeners, in a this is very brutal and this is too much for me kind of way.
00:31:56
Speaker
But then we had made a deal. I wanted to watch something with him. And he was like, well, if I watch this with you, then you've got to watch this with me. And then I was hooked after that. But yeah, that first. What did you guys him watch? It was the Justice League because we were doing our other podcast. And so we were going to cover that. The Zack Snyder cut. He was like, if I'm going to watch that, then you have to watch Demon Slayer. And I'm like, OK, fine. You got the better end of that.
00:32:21
Speaker
Yeah, well, well, he did like he won the deal because I'm now because you got exposed to demons there. He got. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess we're both winners because he got me to watch it. And I, you know, I was introduced to it. But yeah, neither of us have acted on our trade off yet.
00:32:37
Speaker
Oh, I know the what the animes were supposed to watch We were supposed to do like a whole little mini series on and it was supposed to be over the winter during your slow season And then we just didn't do it. Yeah, you got sick and like I was dealing with stuff too So but yeah, we we definitely need to do that because I want you to watch fairy tale. Yeah You want me to watch my hero? May May or June I think
00:33:03
Speaker
Yeah, we'll have to compare seasons because I don't know that how many seasons is my hero have. So either see there's seven or eight. OK, that might be that might be similar to fairy tale. Yeah. OK, let's go. Fairy tale seasons. Night seasons, all right.
00:33:27
Speaker
Yeah, I remember watching the first three episodes and I just could not get into it. But a fairytale? Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. Like before I knew you two, like somebody else was going to watch and I was like, what is going on with all these? And then it's like BBK's favorite too, right? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, all these really cool people are telling you to watch this really cool show. I think you will enjoy it. It's definitely not as dark as Demon Slayer.
00:33:51
Speaker
It's a lot more lighthearted, but it's really great. I guess maybe it's because I'm a Hufflepuff, but it's all about friendship and being loyal. It's so good.
00:34:04
Speaker
So every anime in existence, ever. That's very true. You're right. I suddenly pick her up on Yu-Gi-Oh! and Pokemon. I haven't watched very many. Sailor Moon. Yeah, Sailor Moon, Pokemon. I haven't even finished, you know, Pokemon. And then Fairy Tail and now Demon Slayer. I think those are the only animates I've ever completed.
00:34:30
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, well, one piece, but I'm not I'm definitely not completed that. I don't even know where I am in one piece, but there is a lot of one piece to watch. Oh, I guess because there's a lot of pieces. Yeah, I know there's only one one piece. But that live action was really good, too. Speaking of the Naruto live action, the one piece live action did was really good.
00:34:56
Speaker
I meant to watch the live action just out of curiosity. I watched the Yu Yu Hakusho live action. That was entertaining. It was good for what it was. It was like four episodes. Or maybe that was a fan or not a fan of that. Did Bleach have a live action movie? Was it Bleach? Did Bleach have a movie? I watched that, but I haven't seen the actual anime. Anyway, we're getting off on a tangent here.
00:35:18
Speaker
I mean there's only one more thing that I really need to talk about and this scene was like you could have showed me just this in IMAX and it would have been enough. The fact that we got to see two Hashira team up and go in for this huge fight. Everything about that excuse my language was so fucking
00:35:40
Speaker
Awesome. Yeah, those map for IMAX all the detail and it's like one thing that anime will always have over live-action stuff like live-action anything is nighttime scenes because that is dark and creepy, but everything is clear and you know what's going on nothing in like live-action media will ever match up to how clean everything looked in this and the fact that we had all this intensity of like not only is it too harsh, but you had to upper rank and
00:36:08
Speaker
and demon slayers who were just with them and there was this huge mansion and they had to go in and like protect their guys but still like we've seen it from where our main characters had to be protected by like uzumi and ringoku but the fact that we got to see it at this scale of just kind of like you're in my way the two of us are going to handle this get out of here so the fact that it got that intense and even though it was too harsh and they weren't able to destroy the girl yes yes everything about that
00:36:35
Speaker
we got to see the portal to the Infinity Castle for the first time. I thought they were going to get stuck in it. I was genuinely scared that they were going to get stuck and then somehow like booted out. But the amount of demons that were just chilling because demons don't work together. Right. The fact that there were that many in there in the room just like chilling was like
00:36:55
Speaker
Oh, they are in for some deep shit right now. This is going to get insane. That that alone was a great standard of like the mayhem that we're going to be expecting. My only problem is that they didn't really mention it in the meeting. You know, you're having this meeting. Yeah, they didn't even talk about it. So I'm hoping that we do see that eventually in the arc that they were like, hey, maybe we should mention this creepy, we are dimensional.
00:37:23
Speaker
thing that we saw to the other Hashira. Yeah. And, you know, investigate. I guess it was one of those like time management things where they needed so much to set up. It's like, OK, we as the audience saw it and we know that the the meeting was so long that the sun had set and they were in a hole in the room with like candles lit up. So it's like it's true. Yeah, sure. It came up. But even even for me, the theater was like, you don't want to bring this up. It's not a priority or they don't realize what a priority it is at the moment.
00:37:52
Speaker
Yeah. One conversation that they did have is, so I didn't realize that they didn't know that they had these demon curse marks when they were fighting in the swordsmith village for the love and mist, Hashira. Yeah, so I didn't really realize, I remember
00:38:15
Speaker
It came back to me, but I didn't realize that's what was happening when I was watching it in that arc. And then I completely forgot about it. And so when they brought it up, I'm like, wait, they did. And then I was like, oh, yeah, I do kind of vaguely remember that happening. So I don't know if they just didn't do a good job of pointing that out during the time where they just didn't want to or or what. But I that didn't really come across for me either. Yeah, because in that moment, so I had watched that whole arc the day that we went to the movie.
00:38:45
Speaker
So it was kind of like fresh in my head. So Tanjiro had made a comment of, I know what I need to do to experience that feeling of when I did it.
00:38:59
Speaker
in the spider arc. So I can't remember if it was like Mugen train or with entertainment district, but he had that dialogue of like, I felt that I know how to activate it, but it tires me out. So they say like your temperature rises, your heart rate rises and this and that. So that was one of the things where I was just kind of like, okay, that's something I didn't pay attention to like the first time that I watched this. And then when
00:39:24
Speaker
Muichiro and Mitsuri had their moments. They made comments. Like, Muichiro said something along the lines of like, wow, I'm really in the zone right now. Like, he just felt good. Like, that was just what he was saying, because he was like shit talking in the upper four. I think that one was whichever one the base one was. He was like shit talking. And he was like, man, just just really in the zone. And that was pissing him off. He's like, what do you mean? Like, this is even like my final form.
00:39:54
Speaker
And then that's when, so he didn't know that that happened to him. And Mitsuri said something around the same time. She's like, I feel really good right now. Like I feel my heart rate going up. And that's when the mark came up. And then she was dealing with the wood dragon. So they didn't know that something was happening, but I guess the crows noticed it. So they brought it up to Lady M on it. And that's when they brought up the history of
00:40:14
Speaker
Yeah, like the only way this is triggered is like if one person activates it, the people around are able to activate it as well. So I like how it's like this bleeding effect. So it's like, only because Tanjiro was able to do this, that they have this ability. And I love that they were, they had the whole story of like,
00:40:32
Speaker
We didn't tell people about this because we've lost demon slayers to like wanting to have this power and they thought it was exclusive. So they either hurt themselves or they quit or it got caught up. So I like that that was a whole storyline of like Tundra's brought this up to them. So now they're trying to figure out how all of them can get it before they go out to this huge war. Yeah. Awesome storyline. Mm hmm. Agreed.
00:41:00
Speaker
Yeah, like I said, this this next arc is just going to be really, really interesting and exciting. So I think the last part that I want to bring up, because things are like coming to my head, like as we're talking about the stuff. Based off of the teaser trailer, like I knew we were going to see Uzui again, but it was just great to see him the way that he did the sound Hasura, the one that lost his arm and eye and entertainment district.
Uzui's Return and Hashira Training
00:41:27
Speaker
Yes. Okay. Yes. With the three wives, right? Yeah. And we got to see the three wives too. Yes. Yes. And they were back like- And the big meal that they prepared. Yeah. That was so cool. I was like, I don't want to be in the means to get that food, but that food looks really good. Like the fact that everybody was like, I can't even eat. Like everything- I know. Right now. And then the other, I forget what year it is, but the trainees are just kind of floating down the stream. Oh my God. Yes.
00:41:55
Speaker
death in that moment. I think that one was for the wind usher. I can't remember. But the the stone one was when everyone was under the waterfall waterfall, like just like embracing that, which is like a big Naruto arc two. So I just really appreciate seeing that like in the setting that it was.
00:42:16
Speaker
Everything about that was so cool. But when he said when they said in the meeting, like, how do you guys feel about recruiting retired Hashira? Like, I knew we were going to see us, but like there's three other Hashira that we've seen on screen that are retired. So I was hoping that they were going to make an appearance. And I was kind of disappointed that they didn't. And that's a kodaki who trained Tanjiro and you the water guy. Yeah. Well, he didn't retire. He just kind of left. Right. The guy retired. The guy with the red mask has the big nose. Oh, OK. OK.
00:42:46
Speaker
Who are you thinking of? The guy who like found him in the very beginning, him and Nezuko, and like he was going to kill Nezuko. That's the current water Hasura. Oh, oh, got it. OK. Yeah, so obviously he's still there, but I was hoping that his teacher would have because we haven't seen him since the final selection. Yeah, I don't even remember. There's been like references and stuff to him, but like we haven't seen him yet. So when they said like bring in retired, I was like, OK, we've seen three.
00:43:15
Speaker
Urokaraki being one of them. Zenitsu's teacher was a former Hashira. So they just call him Gramps, but he's like on a peg leg. But it would have been cool seeing him and just kind of talking about that a little bit. Yeah. And then this one, like I understood, but Rengoku's dad. He was a former Hashira who just kind of like retired after his wife died from sickness. Yeah. Well, they don't have like a fire high his year right now to, you know,
00:43:41
Speaker
No, I don't know. You have to call it flame. You're not allowed to call it fire. They're very particular about that. The I do remember, I don't know if it was you, but somebody that was sitting on that side of me when they mentioned they're retired, Hashira, I heard a noise of excitement and I'm like, oh, who are they? I don't I don't know what's going on. Who are we excited about? But then when they showed the guy with the three wives, I was like, oh, him, I remember him now. Yeah.
00:44:11
Speaker
Yeah, I love how he was like, um, oh, if you can't handle me, you're definitely not going to handle the rest of the hot show. You guys better step it up so you don't make me look bad and all this stuff. I just, I loved everything about him being back because his.
00:44:24
Speaker
It is seen of when we thought he was messed up and him just coming back and screaming like, I figured you out and just like goes into battle. Like that lives right free in my brain. Like the look on his face and just how intense that showdown was with him only having one hand and one eye was absolutely incredible. It's just like cinematic glory. Yeah. I love the show so much.
Final Thoughts and Anticipation
00:44:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's good. It's intense, but it's good.
00:44:55
Speaker
I'm not sure I have anything else to add. I'm not sure I have anything else to add. Well, then the only thing I will add is I'm excited to see.
00:45:06
Speaker
the woman that's been doing the blood work. She's a past demon, right? Or she is a demon? Lady Tamayo. Being invited to the. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. The Shira compound. Yeah. So there's just like, that's what I'm saying like this next arc. Now that it's going to be just a bunch of exposition, I think it's going to be very interesting and they're going to show us a lot too.
00:45:28
Speaker
There's just going to be so much happening that to get us ready for the next chapter and I'm just so excited to get more information and you know, just just prepare for what's coming. Yeah, it's gonna be about that. The crow really scared me for a while.
00:45:46
Speaker
because of how ominous he sounded. I thought it was on as a crow. Oh, and I was very uncomfortable because it was like, oh, I've been following you when I found you do this. And by the way, I'm just like, oh, thank God it was just one of the master's crows. Yeah. But I was also nervous at the beginning. Me too.
00:46:05
Speaker
But yeah, I love that they had that dialogue because when they had the first Hashira meeting that we've seen, the master tells Tanjiro, like, oh, tell Lady Tamayo I said hello. And he was just like, oh, shit, you know about her? So the fact that they've been tracking her for a while and genuinely want to work together for their hatred of Muzan is a very, very big storyline that I can't believe I forgot.
00:46:31
Speaker
That's what I'm here for. Dreamwork. High five. Makes the dream work. Yeah. Any other final remarks? Any guesses of what could or could not happen or just along for the ride? No, I do have a comment, but I'm probably going to have to save it for our avatar conversation because it's about you were mentioning the live action at nighttime thing and there's a really great sequence, but you haven't finished or have you the live action avatar. I've only watched the first three episodes.
00:47:01
Speaker
Okay, so I mean just the opening of that show kind of shows great night times I put myself in the corner by saying that but it was night time scene was just so But there's a really great sequence I it's either the second to last or the last episode, okay? Now I know the lighting yeah, the lighting is really great and I just can't wait to see your thoughts on it when you get there. I
00:47:24
Speaker
Cool. So yeah, for the listeners, Saturday is going to be joining us when we do a kind of live action recap and just talk about like how it compares to the original series. Is it better? Is it worse? Is it its own thing? So that's just the conversation that we're going to have over there. I believe just Scotty is going to be back for some bad batch coverage. We're not going to do weekly stuff, but we are going to do them in bulk, like how we've done for a lot of shows in the past.
00:47:49
Speaker
And in the moment, I'm drawing a blank and all the other stuff that's upcoming, but there's a lot of stuff upcoming. So we're no shortage of things. I would like to talk about Kung Fu Panda if we can, but I also haven't seen the third movie, so I guess we're catching up to date. Yeah, but either. Lots to do, lots to talk about. But thank you for joining us. Make sure to check out Peds's Gap Fest as soon as you're done here and tune in next time. And as always, stay wellmed.
00:48:18
Speaker
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