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Jujutsu Kaisen S2 Ep15: Fluctuations Pt 2
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Our emotions are fluctuating just like the title of this episode with insane action animation and the terrifying presences of new additions to the battlefield!
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Introduction & Episode Overview
00:00:01
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On another exciting episode of the Animation Delibration Podcast, my schedule may have been fluctuating, but our love for the show has not. We are going to be talking about Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2 Episode 14, Fluctuations, Part 2. Right after these ads, we have no control over. Sing along if you know the words. One, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of our favorite action animated series, yeah.
00:00:28
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Yeah, welcome back to another episode of Animation Deliberation, the podcast where we take action animation and cartoons seriously, but not too seriously.
Scheduling Conflicts & Apologies
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We're your hosts, I'm Zuhar Ali. And I am Andrew Rogers. And apologies for me missing last week. It's definitely gonna make up for the fact that Andrew's missing the next three weeks. Ooh. A lot of fluctuations, a lot of ups and downs, but man has this show been good with so much to talk about.
00:00:49
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Yeah, I was I was sad that you missed last week. I'm wishing that I could remember the questions that I had for you because in the moment I was like, oh, I have so many questions for him. But yeah, I'm so happy that you are back for this episode specifically. I'm sure it's going to be a wild ride the next three weeks and I'm going to be disappointed. But holy crap, did we have a whirlwind for you to make your return to.
Toji's Unexpected Introduction
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Yeah, I wasn't expecting this to be like a part one, part two thing. And there was a lot of speculations that I had for like
00:01:19
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how Toji's experience, like, introduction to this was going to be and what was going to happen, and, like, this was none of what I thought was going to happen, so... What's good with that or even start talking about it? Yeah, I think we do just have to dive in, because this is absolutely crazy.
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And as always, thank you for supporting the brands that have decided to support animation deliberation. Without further ado, I'm going to do the synopsis. I'm going to run through this as fast as I can, hopefully, so that we could talk because I am, I'm just getting giddy here. The natural two times speed net. Yes. All right. Long wind quirk activate. Let's do this.
Episode Highlights: Battles & Revivals
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Fluctuations, part two. After entering the domain, Toji makes Maki's curse tool and immediately begins targeting the strongest opponent in the area, Dagon. Everyone is stunned as Toji completely overwhelms Dagon with his immense speed and strength, brushing off all of his attacks and eventually killing him, ending the domain. Without any time to react, Megumi is unexpectedly launched out of the building to confront Toji himself.
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Jogo suddenly appears to mourn Dagon's death and effortlessly incinerates Nanami, Maki, and Naobito. He then senses Sukuna's presence and rushes to find the Hasaba sisters, feeding Yuji a finger. He scares them off and proceeds to feed Yuji 10 fingers to make a total of 15 fingers within him.
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Sukuna awakens stunning Jogo and the Hasabas into absolute fear by his presence. Sukuna asks the Hasabas what they want for providing the finger, and they ask him to kill the imposter inhabiting Geto's body, offering another finger's location as further compensation. Annoyed by their request, Sukuna brutally kills them both. He then addresses Jogo, who simply says he only desires Sukuna's complete resurrection and suggests he make a pact with Yuji,
00:06:26
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to take control of the body. Sukuna denies this, having his own plans, but allows Jogo the chance that if he can land one hit on him, he will assist his group. So much stuff happened in the toji half of this episode. When the marker came up for like where a commercial break was supposed to be, I was like, we still have another half.
00:06:48
Speaker
This wasn't the whole episode? What on earth is going on? Man, was this action packed and intense. Mind you, the marker didn't even come up until, like, Sukuna was awake. Like, that was around the time. Like, there was so much that happened leading up to that point. Like, I was expecting the episode to almost end at that point. Like, oh, Sukuna's back. No. Like, they threw so much in here. And like you said at the top,
00:07:16
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there were all these things of like, okay, toji's back in the fold, what's gonna happen? I expected like the fight with toji and Dagon and all those other things to be like this whole episode. And instead, it was like 10 minutes. Yeah. Yeah, all of that was really weird. And like, as the episode started, I was like, huh, these are all zenian clan people in the same room, like none of these only stand out from this. Like a funny realization, but then just the way that
00:07:47
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volcanohead came in and incinerated them I was like there's no way they're dead like you can't just no no no no no yeah
00:07:58
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I don't know how to feel. I don't know what's going on. We didn't get a last word out of anatomy. We didn't get anything to make us feel remotely okay. And then the back episode, back half of this episode just was so no holds barred that I'm like 95 plus percent sure that they are dead. Like they just went so far into the death count that I'm like, everyone just has to be dead at this point.
00:08:26
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Oh, that being said, I do want to bring up a point before I forget it, because I was thinking about this as the episode was going on. A few episodes, I was complaining about like, who they use to set the standard for power levels. And like, nowhere was the example of that. It's like, I didn't like like how quick she got beat. So I do like that in these last two episodes, they were, they were at least really consistent with like,
00:08:54
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what it means to be a certain rank. Because Maki, as much as I love her, was getting her butt kicked a little bit. Fushiguro only lasted so long, like trying to, you know, go toe to toe with what I'm assuming was a special grade. Octopus face? Yeah, we never really got a confirmation. But you see the difference between Maki and Fushiguro versus like what Nanami and the Zen and Drunk
00:09:22
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were able to accomplish with one arm already being so beat up. And then when Volcano Head came in and instantly took them out, as much as I had that complaint two weeks ago, I am proud of them for at least keeping the standard and consistency of what's expected of certain sorcerer grades.
00:09:42
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Yeah, and they did very good mentioning of, like I said, there was the whole comment about how Dagon evolved, and then as soon as that was emptied, you even had Nanami say, like, he's gone and another curse shows up, this one's stronger than the last. Like, they consistently were doing this level up because we saw them struggle against one, hey, this one's stronger, immediately taken out. Like, they very much put it all on the playing field that, like, there isn't a problem, which I really like.
00:10:12
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But then they emphasize that Yuji had like like he was a lot stronger than expected in this and that but he also still has like the maturity of a freshman So the fact that he was getting cocky in his fights and then lost like they've been very consistent I know I said that like four times now, but Consist I mean you are nothing if not consistent with your praise of their consistency. Yeah, that's not fluctuating. I
00:10:37
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You saying fluctuating I really gotta say I love how JJK has I feel like this isn't the first time they've done this. Actually, it's not even the first time this season, where they don't tell you that things are going to be multiple parts until you're getting into the next part. It's kind of a cool thing that last week's episode was titled fluctuations. It wasn't fluctuations, part one.
00:10:58
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making you immediately be like, Oh, it's gonna be a part two, it's gonna continue, blah, blah, blah. But then when you saw fluctuations, part two, you're like, Oh, we're just going right into it. We're getting in the thick, it's picking up where we left off. And I really like that little bit of mystery. Yeah, because we're all in inventory was the only thing that really did
00:11:17
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have like part one, part two, part three on it. Yeah. And that's exactly where I was like, Oh, they've done this before hidden inventory. Like we didn't know they were going to fully go, but we also didn't know how many there was even gonna be. So that's also neat.
Sukuna's Revival & Aftermath
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But yeah, this, this episode just it was so much I told you here, as we booted up this call, like I got done watching the episode and immediately jumped in the room to record this podcast. And I was just in shock. Like I have not felt as
00:11:48
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blown away since Attack on Titan with just, they can't do this. This isn't allowed. The number of times that I just gasped audibly at my screen like, no, they're not doing this, was too many for a 30-minute episode, for a 23-minute episode.
00:12:11
Speaker
Yeah, I was definitely in shock and bewildered him in a couple of times, but in regards to like Toji's fight sequence, like that was all Dragon Ball Z for me. Just specifically like Dragon Ball Super. Now, because I was about to say it's like, oh man, if they redid Dragon Ball Z, I was like, wait, no, they have super. That's exactly what those fight sequences on the road was just like, move, move, move, move. And just the way the hits were going and the way they were flying and man, just everything about that, like,
00:12:38
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It's, it, it had my excitement as an animation fan just as high as the Yuji and Chosofite, but both of them were such different fights in terms of the animation, in terms of the pacing, in terms of just like the flow of the sequence, but still like the fact that they're giving us like so many different things and making me just equally as giddy is just so much fun.
00:13:05
Speaker
Yeah, I said it last week when you weren't here, like, just the entirety of the coloring, the animation, the way that they paced the fight on that beach, just screamed old school anime, the Dragon Balls, the Naruto is just all of these like, big bombastic fight scenes where you're gonna watch these people just throw haymakers the entire time. And it's like, oh, it can't get better. Nope, there's a giant
00:13:31
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you know, shelled bug under the water that's gonna try and attack Toji. But no, Toji's gonna take that out in one punch. But then Dagon's gonna come in and, you know, produce something from his body. But then Toji's gonna take that out. It's just so much of that back and forth where you know these are the big hitters, and the whole time you're giddy and enjoying it and loving every moment of it. Oh, and then when you sharpened up the weapon and then like broke the chains off just to be able to nail the duty of the world. That he's that strong though? Like what?
00:14:00
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like that is one of the strongest curse tools that we have seen. And he's just like, I'm gonna sit here and sharpen this boy the sparks like fully illuminating him from behind. Oh, I forget the dialogue. But like when he was coming out the way the narrator said it's like, the one who cursed him and the one who carried on the curse were both there to witnesses. I'm just like, Hmm. Yeah, I never really put the pieces together that like,
00:14:28
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the curse carried was between Toji and Maki of like, oh, you don't have cursed energy. You can't use cursed energy. You have to use tools. Like it was all right there. And it's it's a nice little not like acknowledgement of that fact. And then she even had the dialogue as like, wait, I lost by pure strength. I lost by pure strength just to like have a scale of like. Well, I guess really how powerful she is at the expense of not having cursed energy.
00:14:57
Speaker
Yeah, like we had seen it before, but Toji's just at another level, through and through, how many times he's moving in a flash that no one can see him.
00:15:06
Speaker
That old man could have given her, both of them, so many more details in that moment. Yeah, he knew what was going on and was just like, eh, I'm just gonna stop. He's like, oh yeah, he's just a ghost. He's like, no, he's your uncle and your dad. Yeah, I was really expecting when he said Toji, Nanami, to have that moment of like, wait, the Toji? Because as much as Nanami wasn't there at the school when it happened, I'm sure he still would have heard from Gojo and the others like, hey, this was a Toji guy that almost killed me.
00:15:36
Speaker
There was like a year gap between when that happened and when Gato left. Yeah, there's I feel like there should have been some acknowledgement. But maybe it's just not me doesn't know or wasn't fully there because he was already struggling. Or maybe he just like said the name in his head or like whispered it's not me like never heard. I know we said it. Did he say it audibly? I thought I saw his lips move. But maybe maybe he did. But it was just like toji.
00:16:04
Speaker
Yeah, like when you're standing in the middle of the ocean with frogs all over the place and man eating fish and then like trying to fight domains, like maybe you don't hear toji. You do have other things going on. But I will say this is the one like this fight scene was awesome, but it was one of the few times that I was like, man, Mappa, you got to slow down.
00:16:30
Speaker
I loved the fight scene. It felt bombastic, but this was one of the few times that I feel like it really hit that they didn't have enough time to fully put in. I feel like there were some jittery movements. I feel like there were some moments during the major Dragon Ball Z-esque fight scene that could have been polished up a little more.
Animation Quality Critique
00:16:48
Speaker
But it goes back into the, like, had they had time, because I think I saw something recently where they're, like, apparently still working on episodes from season two as we speak.
00:16:58
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like as they're airing, which is just unheard of. So I'm not going to discount it too much, but it was one of the few like interesting moments where I was like, I just I want a little bit more out of them because the Choso and Isadori fight was so flawless in the way that it animated everything that to have a couple nitpicks, as much as they feel like nitpicks, they feel valid because we've seen the cream of the crap that they can do two episodes ago.
00:17:25
Speaker
So I'm just throwing it out there. I felt like there were a couple moments and it was like, I like more. But it doesn't change the fact that the fight scene choreography was awesome. Yeah. Yeah, sadly, that working down to the last minute isn't as unusual as you think it is. Even for like movies and stuff like the CGI when they're working on that, like sometimes it's like weeks before those reels go out that
00:17:52
Speaker
they're like finishing up. It's not like there's a break time between when things are done and when they come out. Yeah, but I feel like usually for shows, you at least generally assume that they have all of it together to then release the show and like, yeah, they're still working but they're working on the next season as opposed to working on the current season. Assume is the keyword there. Yes, assume is the keyword there. Grind, grind, grind.
00:18:20
Speaker
Yeah, no, don't because also they have attack on Titan. The way that he was sharpening the weapon is how these animators feel. Yes, they are on it on top of it. But that was the only criticism I wanted to say because the rest of it was just so, so cool. So good. But it did it felt jittery. I don't know if and maybe that was just my laptop or screen, but it just felt a little
00:18:42
Speaker
like there were a couple of things missing here and there to bother me or even like even feel the need to bring it up. Which is wild because I feel like it's usually you bringing these things up. I was expecting you like not thinking back on it like sure there was a couple of things like here and there but I don't know I like
00:19:02
Speaker
For me, even when it comes to like CGI, like people argue or complain about like MCU CGI a lot. And for me, it's like, as long as it's not bad enough to make me like only focus on that and that's what's happening. Like, it's fine. Like, I feel like I fill the voids with my imagination just enough. So it's only when I can't do that, that it bothers me. Yeah, no, that's totally fair.
00:19:27
Speaker
Like these earlier episodes bothered me enough that I was like, what is going on here? Which is so weird because I never had that many issues with the earlier episodes. So it's totally just interpretation. Eye of the beholder. Maybe it's because I'm used to shittier enemies like Dragon Ball Z and Naruto as you so eloquently put. Oh, yeah. No. Hey, I have never called out Dragon Ball Z. Let's let's keep that one off the record here. I don't need to go down in a full ball of fire, just like, you know.
00:19:53
Speaker
It's been circulating the fight between Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Majin Vegeta, and they were talking about how this animation from the early 90s, and I was like, that's just so wild to think about. We watched this mid-2000s or whatever, and the fact that it was stuff that came out before we were born is just crazy. Yeah, you said some words, and I heard them.
00:20:17
Speaker
I knew fight scenes, I picked up on those, but I have no knowledge of Dragon Ball, it is definitely one of the gaps in my anime world. Just watch Dragon Ball bridge, she'll be fine. Don't know about that, but... Watch Dragon Ball and bridge and play Ultimate Ninja Storm connections when it comes out. Okay, well, if we're gonna talk about connections, I think we just need to talk about the elephant in the room that is...
00:20:46
Speaker
Yeah, we were waiting to see Sukuna. We found him. Wow, look at that elephant go by. It was so real sounding. I barely even noticed. Prince Ali. If you can't tell, Zuhair is definitely a little tired this week. So fucking tired. But yeah, Sukuna's resurrection
00:21:09
Speaker
We didn't know what the Hasaba sisters were doing, but god, this was like the last thing on the list of things that I thought they were going to be doing to try. Like, I thought they were helping me. Well, dying, but like, no, going through the trouble of resurrecting Sukuna, like immediately, I was like, this is a horrible idea. You think you're going to get anything productive out of him? What do you mean? This is like the God of Chaos themselves. That deal is not going to fly. Hold up, though.
00:21:38
Speaker
How long has Sukuna been locked up? I mean, forever? I don't actually know. I feel like that's a valid question, but it thousand years ago, something like that. Yeah. So how would somebody like actually know? I feel like if you know about the fingers, then you know enough about the legend to know, like, it's legend, right? Like,
00:22:06
Speaker
Yeah, but nobody really has a scale of it until it's like, you can't say that if you tell somebody like this farm that's lived on a farm on Kansas, like all their lives about like, explain the Empire State Building, they're gonna be like, it's pretty big. Then they go and they're like, what the hell is this like?
00:22:23
Speaker
Yeah, but we also exist in a world where these curse spirits are horrible. Like, if you think about the worst curse spirit that they would know... There are two teenagers that deal with him on a regular basis, so it's like... But that's what I'm saying. Like, the worst spirit that they probably are dealing with at this point would be Mahito and Jogo. Like, those are probably the two most powerful.
00:22:44
Speaker
who they've interacted with multiple times. Right, they've interacted with it. But they should have a scale of how like, powerful they are and how they should be able to get rid of them. How do you process having somebody that can put that person on their knees by presence alone? Like, that's a whole level of intensity that I don't think anybody can just be ready for. Oh, no, but you guy.
00:23:06
Speaker
It feels like such a last-ditch effort, as opposed to like... It was! The only person that cared for them got taken over by a cursed thingy that controls their brain. Like, they have no other option but this. Go to the Jujutsu sorcerers, be like, hey, can you, uh, can you get rid of this guy? Like, help them, help the people that you are actively, like, watching fall, as opposed to going to the, like, call in the nukes option.
00:23:34
Speaker
So you go to the person that I guess you go to the person that already killed them. Yeah, like, you know, go Joe could do it. Like, these two could have been the ones that freed go Joe. And at least like, yeah, they hate go Joe. But they hate the brain that's taken over the person they love more. I guess also, like we haven't seen. Like, at what point did they give up? Right? Because it seems like they've been having hope.
00:24:01
Speaker
that the original gato will come back and that they just gave up like literally like in this moment and now that because gojo wasn't an option like sukeno was the only option left i guess maybe because we did see the moment that it happened because they talked to the brain spirit and we're like hey can we have gato back and we have his body like all of that and he's like
00:24:25
Speaker
I don't think I will. I think I'm going to keep this. This is pretty rad. And it's really the only way to continue to enact my plan. So f off like that happened on screen. Yeah. So this really is the last ditch effort. Is it the last ditch effort? Or is it just the first idea that they came up with? They're like, ha, ha, we got this. Let's let's go to Sukuna like children.
00:24:47
Speaker
Yeah, maybe it was that I don't know. But it just feels like maybe it's because this is fiction. And I'm sitting here armchair directing looking at these characters. But like, that's a dumb call. That's just a that's just a bad idea. Yeah. But
00:25:05
Speaker
Yeah, no one is perfect and neither are their bodies anymore because holy crap that is that like, we talked about how slowly bloodier and more adult this show has been becoming. And I feel like we kind of plateaued for a little bit. Oh, and then he picked up the phone and he was like, explaining it like we were supposed to be super intrigued like this is lame.
00:25:28
Speaker
Yeah, just get rid of that. We don't care about that. There's an explanation because that's all we do in animes, but screw this. Yes. But yeah, oh, my gosh, I was not prepared to watch one girl basically get beheaded and then another one get cubed like that. That's literal horror movie stuff. I have seen that in a horror movie. There's a horror movie called The Cube where someone gets cubed like that. It's it's just crazy.
00:25:57
Speaker
day of the dead we got to watch this on the day of the dead oh yeah there's a there is a lot a lot happening because I cannot believe we lost so many characters in what episode like it was nothing I'm I'm so upset but Sukuna not even not even lifting a finger pun kind of intended stomach
00:26:21
Speaker
I don't know where we go. I really don't know where we go from here because Sukuna being this powerful how what what do you mean? We can't stop this. We saw like two finger power Sukuna before we are at 15 finger power. Hmm. I could see ways out but I don't like any of them and they're just it feels like it's all over. I'm thinking of trajectory now.
00:26:49
Speaker
Because we have Sukuna vs. Jogo, Mei-mei vs. Gato, and Ushigeru vs. Toji right now. Yes. Panda's still hanging out somewhere. We do know we did see Panda on the outside.
00:27:14
Speaker
Yeah, but let's not forget, we still have six more episodes. If I'm remembering feels like yesterday, we were complaining about how many episodes we had left. And now they're wrapping up. I don't think it was ever a complaint. I think it was like a wow, there's going to be so much that was complaining. It's fair.
00:27:34
Speaker
Yeah, I guess when you were more tired of the animation, I was just like, we only have up to go from here. How can it like keep getting better? And oh, my gosh, I wasn't ready for this. I take back what I said. I didn't want it to go this far, man. You've killed none of me. I'm still like, I'm still coping with this. I'm fully processed. I'm wondering, like, where are the Dragon Balls? Like, how are you going to kill people off this easily? Like, what is the plan to bring them back? Because they are not dead.
00:28:00
Speaker
They're not dead. They're bringing them back. I will come to Japan with you just to riot if they do not bring them back.
00:28:07
Speaker
They're coming back. They gotta come back. I can't believe, I can't see away. It's just like, this feels like their way of being like, oh, death matters. Oh, here's how powerful everyone is. They're terrible at explaining things. Maybe they have at some point. We just don't know yet. Yeah, maybe there isn't out. Maybe we haven't gotten there. I mean, there is the whole mention of like his reverse curse technique to be able to heal people. Maybe he could bring people back from the dead, he being Sukuna.
Naobito's Character Appreciation
00:28:34
Speaker
Like, if Yuji were to somehow take the body back over and be able to use his power, I'm- Just take those cremation asterisks that haven't blown from Nanami yet and just bring them back.
00:28:44
Speaker
I don't know. Again, as I was starting to say, usually I watch these episodes like over lunch, and I just didn't have time today. So I watched it like right before we recorded this. And I'm just they built up not only they made not only the proper character that like, I think we were all waiting for him to be like, so many of the manga fans were like, not only is my favorite, I love him. And I was like, What's the big deal? And then I got to this season, I was like, Oh, he's the big deal. I see it now. This is this man, I love him.
00:29:14
Speaker
He is a protector of all like do not harm him or else we have problems. We're ready to have problems now. I'm not okay with this. This is they they didn't hold back on this and I'm so so flabbergasted that like
00:29:36
Speaker
I, we, cause we knew Jogo was kind of powerful, but also we didn't because we watched Gojo take him on and like, yeah, I guess, uh, Gojo struggled, but like he still came out victorious. So I was hoping that three sorcerers would at least be able to like stack up to Gojo. I don't know. I guess it's just perspective at that point, if we're letting it happen. I don't want it to happen though. What if we just fed everyone like one Sukuna finger? It wasn't the whole thing that like.
00:30:05
Speaker
It was very unique that Yuji's body was able to process it. Yes, that was the whole adaptation conversation. I know, but maybe someone else could process it. We don't know. I don't know. Things don't seem to be going well. People are just trying to fuck around and find out right now. Yeah, no, I'm fully on copium at this point. Like it's it's all I can do. Probably 20 times this episode. I apologize, people. I don't think you have actually done it that many times. I think I was like the fourth.
00:30:34
Speaker
we've earned our explicit rating, it's fine. That's true. But yeah, I mean, we get to see Sukuna in more power. I really, I'm excited for that. At the very least, I think that's gonna be crazy. I mean, all of the fight scenes that we have set up, I no longer care about the Mei Mei and Geto fight. Unfortunately, like that's just over there on the side.
00:30:58
Speaker
With all the cool stuff that was going on when she was isolated, I'm just like, I don't care enough. You have not given me anything to care enough. I cared about the gay toe part. I was like, ah, there's something going on here because like this has been our main antagonist. But now at this point, everything else is just way cooler because the father-son thing. At what point in the fight does he find out or does this toji vessel even know that that's his son or is the vessel just in like a blind rage like they mentioned? He didn't know it was a son when he was alive.
00:31:28
Speaker
So yeah, I had a son. Yeah, so like, is there a way that they find out? I I don't know. But I also don't know how. Megami holds his own because. Yeah, kind of coughing up blood as it is right now. Yeah, he's already like weekend and no offense week, like nowhere near the level of Gojo. And I guess this is technically a weaker version of Toji, but still it's Toji.
00:32:00
Speaker
God, this is the weekend version. I mean, the fact that his order stand was really interesting because I thought it was like him just being petty when he said kill all sorcerers. I didn't think he was like. Locked in on actually having to do that. I think it's something to do with the resurrection seance like. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Like I'm surprised it's a quirk. Gosh, that's stuck. Like I thought he was just killing people for fun.
00:32:27
Speaker
I didn't realize that order was actually locked in to him. It at least kind of explains because we knew he hated sorcerers, but not to this level. Plausible deniability for the bloodlust that is happening, I suppose. It's fun to watch. That's for damn sure. It is fun to watch and fun to talk about, but I think that's all that I had to say. Yeah. I don't know if I sent you the meme
00:32:59
Speaker
Toji spotting the worm as he's like doing a bench press.
Looking Ahead: Future Episodes & Hosting Duties
00:33:05
Speaker
Oh my gosh, yes. I'm going to just cross my mind. That was funny. I was so tired. Well, when you're not tired, we will welcome you back for the next couple of weeks because you're going to be helming this show with possible special guests. Who knows how you're going to do it, but I'm not going to be here.
00:33:27
Speaker
could be with the guest. We'll keep these next three weeks going one way or another. But yes, I know. And I will be excited to come back with all all the fervor and information about the episodes.
00:33:42
Speaker
But until then, if you want to help fill that void, we always take and appreciate listener feedback. You can email us, animationdeliberationpodcastatgmail.com, with any of your thoughts about any of the shows, movies, or anything that we are covering, or that you would want us to cover. We're always happy to hear feedback. You can write to us. You can send in a voice memo. We will play it on the show and talk about it. All sorts of great ways. You can also follow us on all of the social medias. As we always plug, they are out there. That's another way that you can reach out to us.
00:34:10
Speaker
Yeah, when you're not tired, Zuhair, where else could they find you on a normal week? That's my secret, Cap. I'm always tired. But yeah, be sure to check out Peabes Gap Fest, be sure to check out 323 with Reed Murphy, and be sure to check out all the shows on Strandepanda.com. We got a little bit of everything for you. And of course, always check out Animation Deliberation. Be sure to tune in next time. That's T-W-O-N-I-N, and as always, stay well. See you in a month!
00:34:41
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