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🎆 EPISODE 155: 2025 WAS TERRIFYING 🎆
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Cheers to making it through the year.
Barely.
This episode of FriGay the 13th Horror Podcast, we look back at the horrors of 2025—from AI anxiety and cursed group chats to box office beasts, Billboard bangers, and some genuinely great horror.
👻 Was 2025 terrifying… or just 2025?
💀 Final Destination: Bloodlines earns its stripes
🪝 I Know What You Did Last Summer (2025) proves some franchises refuse to die
🕯️ In Memoriam
🎮 A brand-new game: Terrifying or Just 2025?
Plus: Tony Todd forever, FPJ nostalgia points, and horror movies being less scary than our screen time reports.
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Introduction and Podcast Overview
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Fri-Gay the 13th Horror Podcast is a proud independent podcast. To learn more about the show, visit Fri-Gay13.com.
Surviving the Year with Humor
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Cheers to the new year. Cheers! We made it! Barely. How so? Emotionally? Spiritually? Technologically? All the above. Plus, I think my phone knows more about me than my entire family at this point. Can't say. Mine suggested therapy and a ring light.
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Cheers to another year of pretending that's normal. Cheers to horror movies being less scary than my screen time report. Cheers to AI basically writing all of the scripts and still not understanding gay subtext.
Reflections on 2025: Fears and Changes
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Cheers to surviving group chats and cheers to muting people we love and loathe. Cheers to saying, I'm on a GLP-1 turning into a personality type. Cheers to 2025 being terrifying.
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It's definitely keeping us in business. Definitely no shortage in the terrifying sector. Either way, cheers. It's episode 155. 2025 was terrifying. twenty twenty five was
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I am the writing on the wall, the whisper in the classroom. I'm Marjorie Greene, and I approve this message. To save America, stop socialism, and stop China.
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Faith and hide, we honor thee, from life to death to rise. Woo-hoo! Horror in real life. Doubters, the doomsters, the gloomsters, they are going to get it wrong.
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Horror in the movies. Where are you going to go?
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Where are you going to hide? Nowhere. Because there's no one like you left. What do we want? Justice! When do we want it? Now!
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Let's go! What are you waiting for, huh? What you waiting for? I want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning. Sometimes. Sometimes.
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For the next hour we're going to look back at the top 10 stories of what has been a remarkable year full of major events and unexpected headlines. We begin with a look back at the year that was.
2025 in Horror Films and Personal Growth
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Welcome back to another episode of Fragge the 13th Horror Podcast. My name is Matty. And I'm Andrew. And if this is your first time with us Fragge the 13th Horror Podcast, number one, go back and listen to 154 full-length episodes before this. And then come back to us for episode 150. I know we're just joking. Stay right where you are. Listen with us. This is the podcast that talks all about horror. Horror history.
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The movies and horror in real life. I forgot what we did there for forgot what we do. I know. um Listen, this is our final episode of 2025. Thus the title, 2025 is terrifying. It's our annual review of the year that we are about to leave. And um look, good riddance of 2025, but also like some good stuff to to to look back on. So, you know, we've ah we've got um some good films planned. Of course, two things that came out in 2025. Andrew and I rarely review shows, ah review movies, pardon me, in in our episodes that are that are that new. We usually try to go for, you know, just like stuff that people have probably already seen.
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um but But when we do these episodes, it's nice to do things from that same year. um So we've got i Know What You Did Last Summer and Final Destination Bloodlines, um both of which will be up for the Oscars in 2026. So look look forward to that. No, i think i think it's like important, though, is like these two movies in Listen, we could have picked some other movies that were like much more like award winning or like that we honestly liked better. But I think like these movies represent 2025 in a way of like these were looked at as like the big like everyone was looking forward to these movies. Everyone was ready for these movies. Like we just wanted them so bad. yeah And there's other movies like Sinners and Weapons where we didn't know what we wanted.
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And maybe we'll talk about those in a different subject when we talk about those horror movies, like when it relates to real
Political Reflections and Personal Challenges
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life. But like, I do think it's a good representation of like where we're at in 2025.
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But yeah, it closed let me get to that. And it's a good return of of of two franchises that that were that ah that have sort of lived side by side for a long time. Look, before we get into to all the stuff that that we're going to talk about, let's just talk about our so about ourselves for a minute. um Andrew, drew how how was your 2025?
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um I think 2025 for me was a mixed bag. um I think it was it was okay, like personally. like i i didn't really have any hiccups this year, and I didn't really have any like big change-ups or anything.
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um But like it did take a lot of my energy looking at the U.S. and looking at how we run things. Yeah. i I think I told you when you were here, yeah it's just like I had a gut check of my own. And i i I think I made some decisions that I just don't, I i just, i'm I'm different for this year. And I don't really know how to explain it.
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But like politically and everything, I think I'm just, I'm moving in a different direction. And man um it feels good, but it also just feels scary to be like, no, like this is, this is wrong.
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This is bad. And we needed to make a change. um And I got to deal with that. But I mean, that's just kind of like the the precipice of of the of the year. What about you?
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ah Yeah, you know i I think ah like like most years, right, it's it's a mixed bag. I think that the year for me started out with a lot of ah annoying things with with work. I'm not going lie. We went through a pretty big GTM um and just we we had a lot of stress. All right, what's GTM?
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A GTM is a it's it's a it's an acronym for go to market. And when when you have a go to market change in a company, it generally means like you're shifting strategy. You're going to maybe do some org changes. There might be a layoff involved. It's all that kind of stuff. And and we did have that. We had we had a layoff that i that we had to go through and I had to let people go. And um I moved to a new team and it was this and it was that. And it was it was a lot.
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and um and it's it it's It's kind of amazing how how work has bookended 2025 for me because i started off at the start of the year with so much, just like like I said, annoying and just sort of stressful things. And now I'm ending it in a completely different way.
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And I feel really, really good about that. i just got i I told Andrew this last week, but I just got promoted to director at my job, which is a thing I've been working for the entire time I've been in Ireland. And, you know, when I got my new teams um in in the course of that GTM, you know, i I didn't know what was going to happen. And it turned out I got these amazing teams of people who are so much fun to work with and who are great at their jobs. They really love their work. They really take it seriously. And we all get along so well. And I'm so, so, so grateful for that. um And, you know, it's it's a good way to look at the year for me. kind of started off weird and it's ending actually pretty good. Now, you know, look all all the stuff in between. Yeah, you know, I've been through a lot this year, like like like most people, you know, we had...
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some some unfortunate deaths this year that that that were close to me that were really sad. and We also had, um you know, just some ups and downs with how I felt about this or about that. You know, love once again seems to elude me another year out.
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um But overall, I'm looking at 2025 as a year of good growth, I think, for me. And and so, i you know, it could it have been a better year, sure. But I feel pretty good about it, though.
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Yeah, I think like, and not not to bring it like back to politics again, but like i think like when we are in such like a weird space in politics and you you have to make some decisions about how you live your life, like yeah i don't know i don't I don't know about you, but like,
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When it was, I don't know, even Bill Clinton, George Bush, Obama, like, you know, all all these people, i was kind of just like, okay, like, whatever, politics is going to politic. But like, when it's so crazy, yeah i feel like it it forces you to make some weird decisions. Does that make sense? Like, well, tell tell me a decision.
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I mean, I just had to makete i had to be like, this is wrong. This is wrong. like We've had so many presidents and so many administrations where you can kind of like sideline yourself and be like, well, I guess i guess this is okay. like I guess everything's okay.
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But like when it's this bad, you kind of just have to be like, no, well absolutely not. well when it's When it's this bad and when when the people that you've elected to to to help save you from such a thing aren't doing anything, right that that is ah and and And not only are they not doing anything, they're continuing to go in the direction that made all of this possible in the first place.
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and and And almost like blaming it on you. like you didn't yeah You didn't vote hard enough. You know what i mean? Or right oh yeah oh you didn't donate yet again to the Democratic Party. like I mean, i'm i'm glad to see that people are waking up because it's like, look, come on.
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Look, but the ah all of them together got us to where we are now. yeah and And it's such a shame. And, you know, like, ah you know, I'm a pretty big news hound. And actually, I was at i was at my local last night and and this guy was there from the Netherlands and he was like, oh, so, you know, do you do you keep up with with American news?
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And I said, I got to be honest, not really anymore. You know, like I, you know, yeah better off for it, to be honest. so Like I've got my New York Times subscription on my phone. So I still, you know, look at that ah every day, I would say. But like, I don't watch the news anymore. I i watch news over here. i i i stopped watching CNN and all the rest of it. i I put it on if something like really big happens or whatever. Yeah. but Other than that, no. Because at the end of the day, like, you know, at all of the stuff,
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that Trump and his goons are doing. It's all, and like this is like the word of the year apparently, it's all rage bait. All of it is. Yeah, it's all reactionary. yeah and all All they want you to do is is they want all of us to get onto Facebook and argue with each other and fight and fight and fight. That's all that they want to do. and I don't want to do that anymore. i don't want to do that anymore.
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So like i'm I'm done with it and I'm done watching his dumb stories about putting his name on the Kennedy Center or putting up plaques in his presidential walk of fame in the fucking White House or whatever. Like he's he's doing that just to fucking troll all of us.
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And unfortunately, we're all fucking falling for it every yeah day. And if what what if we just stopped paying attention to him and to Pete Hegseth and to Christy Noem and to all of them, because they all they want is for us to get up in arms so that they can keep doing it and doing it and doing it. It's fucking.
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I mean, i so I said this Trump 1.0 where I was like, you know, what would hurt him the most is that if we just stopped talking about 100%. So look, we'll come back to politics. But in the meantime, we sort of thought about how we might talk about... um The year of 2025. Yeah, 2025 and just some different buckets. So um let's talk first about about movies. So in movies, I know it looks like, Andrew, you've you've gotten together here sort of like a top 10 movie list in terms of gross.
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yeah um And it is pretty crazy to see some of these numbers on here. For example... the The first one ah with the with the highest gross was a Minecraft movie at, what is it, $423,949,195. That an insane number. insane. I'm looking this right now. here. One, three...
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that is an insane number it's insane looking at this right now let me see here one two three I've seen six out of the top 10 movies. So let's just go through the top 10 really quick. And then we can talk about them. Minecraft movie, it was number one. Lilo and Stitch, the live action version was number two. Oh, yeah, sure. ah Superman, number three. Jurassic World Rebirth, number four. Wicked for Good coming in at number five. Sinners at number six. We'll talk about horror movies in a little bit. um Fantastic Four First Steps was number seven. Zootopia 2, number eight, and How to Train Your Dragon, number nine. And Captain America Brave New World, the Marvel Universe coming to crash. crash at number 10 yeah wow i mean i've i've i've only seen two of those i've seen wicked and i've seen sinners the rest i i fail to see and and to be honest the rest i don't i don't really mean i kind of want to see superman but the rest of them it's it's it's not bad yeah i i i watched superman and i kind of went away with like listen am i a little bit on like a superhero like
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ah fizzle. You know what I mean like I'm just okay on them right now. yeah um So I thought it was fine. i don't i don i don't really get like what all the hubbub was about either either either way, when you whether you think it's good or bad. their eyes And and i am I am done with the jurassic world the Jurassic World stuff. Maddie, you're better for it. You're better for it. like listen i think It should have ended after the first three. It's done. It's over. I think Jonathan Bailey and Scarlett Johansson deserve better.
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Like, I mean, it's just like, are are are you so honestly still making these fucking movies? It's it's bizarre to me. It's it's honestly bizarre. um But, you know, look, in terms of movies, though, it's not just, you know, this list.
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You know, ah the biggest news of the year in movies, as far as I'm concerned, is the is the Warner Brothers Netflix deal. Yeah, it's crazy. It's huge. it It might be like the biggest deal ever, if you really think about it, in in movie studio history. And... um You know, ah i don't know that I think there's lots of ways to feel about it, but I'll tell you what. I would be happier knowing that Netflix gets it instead of Paramount.
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I definitely would Oh, totally. Yeah. If it's Paramount gets it, it's going to fuck. if be like People are mad about Netflix and all this other stuff. Whatever. I get it. If fucking Paramount gets Warner Brothers, it's going to be a conservative fucking nightmare. Do you really don't really want CBS to take over all of this? You do not want that, people. I don't i don't care what your other argument is. That would be a terrible thing for for all these movies. Now, there is a lot of talk about how they want whoever the guy is at Netflix wants like you know movies to not be in the cinema that much longer. you know ah People are are up in arms about this. And look, I don't like that either.
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But here's the thing. Y'all don't go to the fucking cinema. Right. Exactly. You know what? complaining if you're not going to actually do it. That's just it. Like, I'm tired of hearing people complain about this. And this is coming from somebody who goes to the cinema at least twice a month, right? Right. Yeah. No, us too. Like, we go to the movies all the time. so I mean, like, you know, if you if you don't like that, then you got to go to the fucking movies and, like, get out of your house and go fucking do something. So like, you know, I get it. That would suck. But where do you like what does everyone think is going to happen if you don't go if you don't actually spend the money at these things? So if you don't, if you're not going to patronize these places, then like they they can't exist. Like, I don't I don't know what else to tell people. They're they're not magic and they are not state funded. So like, exactly. That's just business, dude. So yeah, that's, that's a bit about movies. Now Donna music.
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Um, God, you know, i gotta tell you, Andrew, I don't even know what half these songs are. This, this is when you really start to feel old. Yeah, but I get it. ah the The top 10 songs from the billboard hot 100, um, at number 10, which I think is surprising was pink pony club from chapel Rowan. Well, I think that that was more of a 2024 song.
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I guess that's fair, isn't it? Well, you know, and look at that, that it's still in, uh, and still in the top 10, uh, the next year. i will say I got to see Chapel Rowan this year at electric. Oh, cool. It was an amazing show. She is fucking awesome. If you ever get a chance to see her live, do not miss that chance. It is so fucking good. um The next one is, i don't even, what is this? ah Apartment by Rose. You know this song? Ah, patet, patet, ah, patet, patet. Oh, yeah, I didn't know it was called that. Yeah. Glad I really sound very old now, don't I? Okay, well, that makes sense then. um I had some help from Post Malone featuring Morgan Wallen. um Ordinary by Alex Warren.
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Beautiful Things by Benson Boone. God, he's so boring. That flippin' flippin' God love him. he's He's a cute kid, but what a boring person. Birds of a Feather by Billie Eilish. Lose Control by Teddy Swims. Have no idea who that is.
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A bar song, Tipsy by Shaboozy. What a name. You've heard that song. um what what but What is that? ah it's You've heard. Just look it up. Just sing it. Come It's so hard for me to like think right now of like how it goes because i just sang Apaté for you. like Does he does it is it just keep saying tipsy all over the place? Is that what happened? Let's just move on. Oh, God. Luther by Kendrick Lamar and SZA. And the number one song of the year apparently was Die with a Smile from Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars. Which I didn't think was number one, but I guess it is. You know –
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Music is so... um Music has changed so much. I was talking about this with somebody yesterday. Because, like, i don't listen to the radio anymore. I really don't. and And I don't really know that many people who do, if I'm being honest. Well, I mean, to be... Go ahead. To be perfectly, like, fine with all of this is, like, music is so pay-to-play now that it's not... I don't think that this is, like... I know we just... We literally just read the top ten songs, but, like...
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How much of that was pushed on you? You know what I mean? like Well, that that's just it, is that I think everything is just curated because we we live in an age of curation, not in an age of discovery. And so, like I mean, but listen, all I basically do is listen to Spotify. And like what i've what I've tried to get better at is if I like a song, i i try to use the radio option.
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And that radio option is um is nice because then it helps me discover some some yeah new people that I don't usually get to, which this year in particular, it's actually been pretty helpful um in terms of ah getting me to to find some new things. I really enjoyed that about it. um but you But when you talk about that, that's all pay to play. Like that's all like, like you wouldn't discover those artists if they didn't like...
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like push it on you. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm i'm not trying to downplay what you're saying at all, but I'm just saying like... No, no, no Yeah, for sure. i I think though, I don't really know how else to do it these days. It's like... that There is no other option unless you go to a fucking record store and buy records. like Yeah, right. And i I think that there is this... um there is this what's the word i'm looking for this not misnomer there is this misconception that like you are discovering things and the reality is that you're not it's sort of almost like it's sort of almost like is there free will or not there there kind of isn't any anymore it's getting weirder i mean like i it's it's like everything is actually chosen for you and you have you have this sort of like this illusion of choice Yeah, and totally get where you're coming from. it's so It's a weird thing. But look, I mean, it's it's where we are. um You know, the other thing that I would say to people is just like going to the cinema, go see live music more and more. yeah
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i've I've really tried to start going to see small, like small things now. Yeah, and find like your local haunt and just like go to a random show. Like even if you don't know who it is. I just saw this guy named Jesse Wells in Dublin ah ah at this point a couple weeks ago, and he was so good. Now look, I did find him off of Instagram. I'm not going to lie. He got fed to me in a feed. it was probably from an ad. But he's a one-man band kind of thing. He's sort of like a new Bob Dylan. He's extremely fucking good and it was great and like there were all these young people at the show I didn't think they would be there at all but it was full of young people who knew like every song that he had it was incredible and it was just it was it was a lot of fun anyways that's music um what a year for entertainment very very very interesting stuff and like I heard the next year um the Oscars are going to be aren't they going to be on YouTube next year is that what I heard are you serious I didn't know this I swear I just heard that in the news that that YouTube actually got the rights for the Oscars.
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Oh, all right. Well, we'll see. Isn't that interesting? I mean, a lot of people, listen, I'm late to the YouTube culture, yeah but i but I am catching up, if that makes any sense. Okay. And so I do have some people on there. He's a tuber. He's a tuber, dudes. I mean, there are certain things like I'll like, so a lot of the time when I'm just working, i it's not like YouTube, like, well, I'll watch it, but I'll just turn it on to like have it in the background.
00:21:57
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Yeah. Like almost like a podcast, but it's YouTube. um So there's a couple people on there that I i listen to. there's um I'm trying to think of the people that I mainly listen to. Like Keith Edwards is like a political guy that I listen to. Hassan Piker a little bit. He gets a little too crazy for me sometimes. But... um i don't know. There's just certain people like I love that you found Hassan Piker. I love it. That's awesome. Yeah. I mean, I like him quite a bit. heat i think that he's too chronically online for me. Oh, yeah. If that makes any sense. Like he just lives online. so There are some people need to get offline, man. yeah They need to they need to get off of social media and go touch some grass, my friend. It's like one of those things where like, I like what you speak about, but you need to just speak less and just go live your life. Because, you know, I, I, I, I like Hassan, Hassan Piker quite a bit. like And like, look, you you know that I'm a super progressive, but there, they mean there are, there are things with him that I disagree with for sure. Oh, of course. yeah Yeah. I, you know, well, we'll say that for the politics part of this discussion, won't we? Yeah. um Anyways, want to ah go ahead, go go ahead. Yeah, so as far as like culture goes, like like weird like pop culture stuff. So this year we really had the Beanie Babies of the new generation. the love boo This is so weird.
00:23:17
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um Listen, i i am not going to invest in anything plush in my life ever again. Ever again, it's over again. I was scarred by the... by the Same.
00:23:28
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by the early ty craze and i'm never gonna come back so if y'all wanna hook things on your backpacks and and invest the and spend hundreds of dollars on plush toys go right ahead it's not going to be worth it in the end, I promise you.
00:23:50
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Yeah, you know, i i I know very little about this. Only like but like it was mentioned by like some people that I work with, they were looking for them for their kids. And like I've seen a couple of them at like shops and whatever. Yeah. And um you know, it' it really is amazing how people find these business opportunities in the strangest fucking things. I know. i am like you know. I don't know who the fuck thought up LaBubu, but...
00:24:14
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Like they're probably billionaires at this point now. Yeah. And I, I, I, I'm like, I can't remember where the company comes from. And in my head, I'm thinking, why didn't I think up fucking laboo boo? know what I mean? Like that, it would be a fucking easy fucking thing. And now you're fucking rich as fuck. You know, Jesus. Listen, I've always said, if I could just think of one thing that would make me the rest of my life, I'd be fine. Well, Andrew, it was, it was going to be it was going to be horror podcast i had Didn't quite. You know what? It's turned into a labor of love. How about that? A labor of love. There we go. All right. As far as the Super Bowl went, um Kendrick Lamar was the Super Bowl halftime show. This year we got ah Bad Bunny, which will be should be really fun. Oh, yeah.
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um But Kendrick Lamar was really good at the Super Bowl. um i Listen, I'm not much of a sports person, but I will always tune in for the halftime show yeah and see like what's going on and see what's like what what the culture is feeding us this year. And Kendrick Lamar did a great job. and he he Did he bring on anybody? can't quite remember if he brought like any special guests. Yeah.
00:25:19
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ah But it was a good show. um I don't know if you have any thoughts about do you any thoughts about the Super Bowl halftime show. Do you even watch it? Well, you know, I don't really watch it anymore because but by the time that like I would watch it here, it's it's like three in the morning. So, like yeah, so so so many of these things I don't watch live anymore, of course. um And then like, of course, I hear about like the the aftermath of it or like the if there's always discourse about it. Yeah, there's some kind of aftermath of something controversial happen. I hear that in the morning when I wake up. So generally, i kind of just like watch like the the like the highlights of these kind of things anymore. So I think it was i i don't I don't think I watched the whole thing with him to be honest. I just kind of watched the highlights the stuff where he was talking about Drake and all the other stuff. And you know, look, Kendrick Lamar is awesome.
00:26:05
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Like, yeah, so fucking good. I got to see him once at Lollapalooza a long time ago. He was fucking great. And I really don't know anything about Bad Bunny. God, I sound like an old man today, Andrew. Jesus Christ. Listen to some Bad Bunny. It's fun. It's fun music. You know I will. will. It's just, you know, it's another thing where it's just not my kind of music. So it's not going to filter to me organically. You have seek it out. It's the kind of thing I have to seek out. And, you know, to be honest, it's probably not going to be my kind of music. The one thing that I do know about it is that, you know, it's pissing off the right people. And so if that's the case, look, I'm pretty happy about that. It's a good thing. I will never forget seeing that fucking, what was it? What is her name? Tommy Loren. Isn't that her? Oh, yeah. Tommy Loren.
00:26:50
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Yeah. Where she said like, ah how do you feel about the, I forget who she was interviewing, but ah yeah she was like, how do you feel about bad buddy doing the Superbowl? And, and, and the girl was like, um, ah she was kind of like you. She was like, I don't really know him that well, but I feel fine about it. And she's like, yeah, but he's not even American. And he goes, and she goes, he's from Puerto Rico.
00:27:12
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Exactly. she's like, yeah, not American. And I was, and she goes, no, that's part of a territory. You fucking, freak? Like, what is actually wrong with you? it's It's very, very bizarre. Yeah. So, yeah. And this year, we also had the kind of, like, aftermath of Wicked and, you know, the the Wicked going into Wicked for Good, which I still have not seen. I know I'm i'm a bad gay, but I will see it. i just... well but like Like I said, remember, if if you have the chance to see it together, you should do it.
00:27:43
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yeah It's a very long movie. i would I get that. But if you get that chance, I think it might make it a better experience. I i wish I had done that. but this But in 2025, we did have like the aftermath of like the Oscar nominations and like their whole press tour. and like It was a big deal. I mean, Ariana Grande was literally on Saturday Night Live last night. She was the host.
00:28:05
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um Oh, and Bowen Yang's last Saturday Night Live. Oh, i heard about that. Yeah. it was It was sweet. They did a little send-off for him. we actually We actually recorded it and watched it. I haven't watched Saturday Night Live in, I don't know, a year? I have not watched Saturday Night Live in so long. it's in I don't even know who's on it anymore.
00:28:22
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Yeah. Some other notable things that happened in 2025. We had the Katy Perry space return, which 11 minutes in a heaven. You know what i mean? And like, and these, and what did she say? Like, what what did she say about it? That everyone was like total cringe. What did she say?
00:28:39
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i think she was like, I'm the first person to sing in space or something. It was something like that And everyone's like, why don't you go fuck yourself? You psycho. Like you're there because you paid for it. That's it.
00:28:49
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Yeah. Well, and it wasn't just her. It was like her and that woman from the Today Show and a couple of other people. like it's It's such a distant memory at this point. like it it It seems like a waste of money if you're being if I'm just being totally honest. or you can't You know what? I'm just going to say what Carl Sagan once said. no billboards in space. May that be the future. May that be how it continues to go.
00:29:14
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Yeah, well, I don't know if you're going to get that in your life. but Yeah. Because I'm pretty sure we're just going to start advertising on the moon. but now ah some other things we had we had done it was the Coldplay kiss cam scandal. You know, I did. um I did just see that there's some articles out like this month with that woman from from the woman. And, you know,
00:29:34
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I don't know, man. Like, look, I don't like people who cheat. I don't. yeah and i And I don't like people who facilitate cheating either. That is, I got to tell you, that is a weird thing in straight people culture. Like, it really is. Like, well, I mean, look, I don't know about you. i don't know about you.
00:29:48
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But have you also had girlfriends who are like, yeah, and he's he's married or or he's with whatever. And I basically have sex with them. Like, I have girlfriends like that. And I'm kind of like, you do know that you're helping it happen, right? Like, that is kind of a bizarre thing.
00:30:04
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i And I think we all kind of do. And I remember asking i remember asking Bridget about it. I was like, is this like a is this a thing for straight people? Like, is this what you is this is this what you people do? And like, it just kind of, I think it's bizarre. Anyways, listen, listen.
00:30:18
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i i I do kind of feel like... you know, that they did a really dumb thing. Do they need to be, you know, crucified for that over and over again? i don't know either. Like it's at this point, it's a family thing for them. yeah Like sucks. You got caught. You should, you shouldn't have been doing it in the first place. But like, I don't know. Like, but but at the same time, like maybe this woman, like hasn't everyone already let it go. Maybe you should do that too. Kind of thing. I don't know. Well, it's like, it's one of those things, like, if you would have just acted normal, nothing would have just that too ever happened. Like, I don't know. it's I mean, look, at the end of the day, if you're not proud of what you're doing, maybe you shouldn't be doing it.
00:30:55
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Agreed. Agreed. Agreed 100%.
00:31:00
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It's one of those things that like, I don't know, like if you're not happy in your relationship, then you got to figure it out. Like, that's the i like yeah oh I have, I have zero sympathy for cheaters. You, you, you know what you're doing and it is not hard ah Yeah, i actually do mean this. It's not hard to have ah a conversation with your partner. yeah stop Stop pretending like it is and stop pretending like you don't know how to do that. If this is a person that you actually love, then maybe you should talk to them. And if you don't love them enough to talk to them, then you should go. That's the kind thing. You should end the relationship and let them go find someone who actually does love them.
00:31:39
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Yeah, no, i i i'm i'm I'm with you 100%. And like, it's it's one of those things that like, have we all been in shitty relationships? Yes, but you get out of them and you figure it out. Like, exactly like yeah I don't know what to tell you. Like, this is this is your one life. This is your one chance. yeah If you don't like it, go do something else. I don't know what to tell you. Now, now speaking of doing something else, to what what i what I wish people yeah would do, what I wish some people would start doing um that would be different than what they're doing now is saying six, seven. um I still have no idea what it means. I actually asked my nephew, is Sonny, if you're listening right now, because he listens with with my brother sometimes.
00:32:21
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I asked Sonny at Thanksgiving. I was like, Sonny, what is 6-7? And he couldn't explain it to me either. And so I still don't know what it is. And you know what? Look, it actually is kind of if if this is a little secret code that all y'all kids got, you know what? Good for you. Maybe maybe it is good that we are confused.
00:32:40
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um No. So from what I understand about it is that it was it comes from like a YouTube video of someone that was at all star game or an ah NBA game. And it's literally this kid that was like, oh, I don't know. He's about six, seven. And he did that hand thing. And then it just like blew up.
00:33:00
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Like it just like literally blew up. Like I don't know how to like describe it, but that's just like and now everyone is finding these patterns in life where you just stick seven all together. it's it's It's kind of like, do you remember when we were kids and we had that stupid joke where we were like, a seven, eight, nine.
00:33:20
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Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. like You know what I mean? It's like that kind of a thing. But because we're such like connected fucking people now, anything that happens like that disseminates so much further than like we would ever have.
00:33:34
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Yeah, it's you you know what? It's bizarre. But look, if this is the worst that kids are doing right now, I'm OK with it. You know what I mean? Like, i Jesus, like, thank God they don't have, you know, they're doing less drugs. There we go. Yeah, i'm i'm I'm happy for him.
00:33:48
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um And then, ah you know, look, in terms of culture with AI, too, there's so much to talk about there. um AI has, without a doubt, changed everything and it has changed so much of our culture. And it will continue to do that.
00:34:03
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And I think probably the thing about AI that has driven me the the craziest this year are just the number of stupid AI videos that I have seen. Yeah. And like, you know, i was listening to a great podcast yesterday about about sort of like AI and the future of AI and and investment and everything else.
00:34:21
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And um they were talking about how, you know, like actually like like normal AI, like when you're just like asking AI a question or like you using it kind of like Google almost. it doesn't use as much water as you think. And like, this is coming from an NPR podcast, by the way. So like we can kind of trust that they're not going to be slanting to the right. So like the, the problem with, with water usage and environmental damage comes from when people are using it to create videos and photos.
00:34:49
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And the videos especially take up such huge compute cycles that they are eating energy like a fucking goblin. And so it's like, could you, could we all just stop making AI videos now? Just like, stop it. Like theyre the number one, they're dumb. They are absolutely fucking stupid.
00:35:05
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You can tell from a mile away that they are And number three, yeah. And number three, I have this, whenever I see one, because, because we're horror people, I instantly think that like you have actually created these beans now and they are real and they are trapped inside that video forever. Like that, That's a good premise. It's where my brain goes right away. And like, I don't know, it's just such a waste. I wish people weren't doing that so much.
00:35:34
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No, um it's funny because this literally happened to me yesterday. i i had ah a friend and show me a video and they were like, oh my God, can you imagine? Look at this. And I was like, that's AI.
00:35:46
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And they were like, I didn't even realize. And I was like, God damn it. It's already happening. I mean, that's it. It's scary to think about what that could turn into. Do you want to talk little about the world of horror before we, you know, before we kind of round things out? Well, why don't we, let's chat about politics for a minute here and then we can go into horror so we get that done too. Well, they're both horrific. I mean, look, I think there was an awful lot of crazy stuff in politics this year, not just in America, obviously. think one of the scariest things to have happen this year is looking at the rise of the far right in Europe.
00:36:23
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And there was a really shocking map that I saw from The Economist this week. And it was highlighting the countries in Europe where either a um a right or a far right government is now in control. or where a Same with South America too now. Or where they are on the ascendant.
00:36:41
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And that is spooky stuff. And once again in Germany, alternative for Deutschland, AfD, who would be the far right party there, they are on the rise. Um, in France, it's on the rise in Spain. It's on the rise in Belgium in here, in here, in here.
00:36:59
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Thankfully in Ireland, it's not very, very happy about that. Um, and in the UK, who knows what's going to happen? I mean, there is it's that this should really freak people out. The last time, I mean, just the last time it was far right across the fucking continent of Europe was when Hitler was in control of Germany. This should terrify us. This is a bad thing.
00:37:20
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Well, I mean, i can just speak for people that I talked to literally yesterday that are from the UK. And I blatantly asked someone that has lived there his entire life, like, what what do you think about this? like And he was like, yeah, it's definitely it's definitely bad.
00:37:36
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It's definitely getting worse. And I was like, yeah do you mean do you mean now or do you mean like in the course of like your entire life? And he was like, no, my entire life. Oh, 100%. Yeah. yeah you You have people in the UK like Nigel Farage who are are pushing these these terrible narratives that are completely untrue and people are just falling for it. Hook, line, and sinker.
00:37:58
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Well, that's the rise of the grifter again, man. It sucks. Yeah, it's it's that and it's also like the it's it's it's this continuation of people who don't want to actually learn and don't want to actually go find their own their own answers to to questions. they They just love having these answers fed to them. And that's a shame because we're going to keep ending up with bullshit like this.
00:38:22
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Yeah, it's it's it's it's very unfortunate because like I feel very fortunate that we grew up in a time where education was very valued. Not anymore. I'm just saying, like i feel I feel good about like that I was brought up in a time where you went to college or college was um college was seen as like a a destination where now college is seen as like almost like a, you go to college, idiot. You know what i mean? like I think it's really shocking. i think it's really shocking. It's very weird to me that education is not more valued and we can't rely on um literally anything. it's It's history is non-existent and undervalued and it's just, it's really, really sad. And I, you know what?
00:39:10
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I don't care what people tell me. I'm going to continue to push whatever agenda, little tiny agenda that I have ah to make people educated and make people feel valued and make people want to like be better. Because that's the America that I was brought up in.
00:39:29
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Kind of. Kind of I'll put that little you know like yeah asterisk asterisk on that. But like... I can't continue to just push on with all of these people that are against me and undervaluing literally living.
00:39:46
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Like, come on. Like, what are we doing? Like, what it's do you want to exist or do you want to live? It it is it is it the rise of anti-intellectualism, which has been on on on the rise for for a long time. Yeah, it sucks. And people don't like smart people anymore. And i and i I think that's just a bizarre way to be. Now, I will say the the stuff this year, if I was to think about the biggest political story that drove me the craziest, it would be the Charlie Kirk shit.
00:40:14
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I'll be honest. Oh, God. Oh, God. The aftermath of it has driven me more insane. You know, it was it was funny. it was It was about a week ago or like a week and a half ago. Like I i must have like laugh reacted at some some meme about Charlie Kirk or whatever or about the whole thing, whatever it was on on Facebook.
00:40:31
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And um it was it was about about a week and a half ago. Some person that I do not know. um took took a screenshot of like the people that that had laughed at that post. And then he found one of my public posts and then put that as a comment on there. And he said, here's Maddie celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
00:40:49
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And I got the guy and I i blocked him right away, naturally. And I found all those reactions and I just took them away because it's absolutely pointless anyway. And and i just thought to myself, you fucking freak.
00:41:02
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like yes You psychopath. like You actual psychopath. and And the idea that Charlie Kirk is some untouchable saint is fucking weird.
00:41:14
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Fucking weird. That's what I don't understand. Right. This is the cult that they are creating. All at the same time, when Rob Reiner is murdered by his son and and and his wife, of course, Michelle, um what does Trump do? He celebrates their their murder with a fucking post on Truth Social.
00:41:31
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And triples down on it. But it's not but it's okay. 100%. It is the biggest hypocrisy in the world. And it just goes to show you, it's just it's it's rage bait after rage bait. They don't even care about Charlie Kirk. they they They don't. All they care about is owning the libs as much as they possibly can. And for whatever reason, their vendetta... on literally ruining liberal, I say that in air quotes, liberal people's lives.
00:41:57
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That's what they're actually out to do right now. And I think that's extremely fucked up. And like, you know what? Charlie Kirk was not perfect. And look, I don't agree with his murder, but you know what? Like, yeah, you are allowed to talk about it. You are allowed to ask questions about it. And you are allowed to ask questions about this narrative that he is some sort of American hero because he's not.
00:42:17
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And and it's it's just all ridiculous. Yeah. Well, and like the fact, like, listen, we don't have spend too much time on this, but like the fact that his widow goes out there and tells women, you should be in the house. You should be raising children while she, in fact, is just on a fucking press tour is it's insane to me. Like, what are you doing? Like you you can't be trad wife and also be a spokesperson. Like those things don't align. There's an awful lot. There's an awful lot of theories ah of out there about her. And, yeah um and, and I think that those things also bear some, some investigation in terms of,
00:43:00
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um boy she's making a lot of money now isn't she yeah exactly an awful lot of money and she knew trump for a long time and she was part of a lot of stuff before charlie ever came into the picture yeah look up her actual history and you will see some very weird stuff and look i i had a friend who was like listen you know and this is a friend i respect quite a bit over here he's like look i'm not into conspiracy theories but i did just happen to hear this one And he told me about it. And I can't remember all the intricacies of it. But Matty, when it's your actual history, it's not a theory. Exactly. after he told it all to me, I was like, holy shit, that actually makes a lot of sense. Anyways, yeah, I think it's absolutely bizarre. And that is one thing that I sincerely hope somehow comes down is this idea that now we to have turning point chapters in high schools across the country. Jesus Christ. My God almighty, it is truly a cult.
00:43:56
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And and ah if if I have one thought about next year, it is really wondering about how is that midterm going to go Will it even happen in the first place? Or will there be some sort of some sort of manufactured crisis?
00:44:11
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And you know will people on the opposing side actually show up and do it? I don i don't know. i don't know. um Yeah. cross pi fingers I'm kind of of two minds about it. like i I tend to lean towards what you're saying, but I also really, really hope that there's enough leadership.
00:44:30
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And I'm talking about people that have not stepped up yet because the leadership we have now are are and not going to do it. but Pathetic. I just hope that there is enough there to...
00:44:41
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Make it happen. and then We'll see, man. That's all I got to say. But let's let's round it out with ah the year in horror, and then we'll we'll go to our um our other segments. but but we also have We also have In Memoriam, too. We have to do that. yeah um So the world of horror, i think that this was an okay year for horror, if I'm being honest. I think it was pretty good.
00:45:01
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I thought it was just okay. I think that there was a lot of i think there was a lot of um hope, um but I think only some of them paid off, if I'm being honest. I think for me, the top movies of the year, I'm going to say Sinners is my tu is my number one.
00:45:19
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And then probably closely behind that, Weapons. And then weirdly, i really liked Hard Eyes. Those were probably like my... top three i think what about you to to be fair i did not see hard eyes um so that i that i still need to do that but for me 28 28 years later was i think a monumental achievement i truly truly love that movie i think that that was great um sinners was also fantastic weapons was incredible frankenstein was fucking awesome i saw it both at home and in the cinema just i think it's an incredible movie especially coming from netflix um I think and then there are some other ones, too, that I think, you know, look, we we we talk a lot about what horror actually is. These are also horror. Begonia was amazing, absolutely amazing of a strange fever dream.
00:46:10
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Eddington was was absolutely a horror movie. and And I think when you watch Eddington with a horror lens, it becomes a lot clearer. And, um, and I think that they might be one of the scariest movies of the year about to ah to be honest, but there were some other little ones too. Like, uh, there, there was one called the rule of Jenny Penn. Um, I think, I think that was only on shutter, but I, or maybe, yeah yeah too um, like that one, that one, man, I mean, I, I know I've got a mom in a homes, like maybe that's why it affected me so much, but like that one really freaked me out. Like that was, and John Lithgow was fucking, did, did you see it?
00:46:45
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Yeah, yeah, it was good. It kind of reminded me of whatever happened to Baby Jane, like that kind of mentality. John Lithgow has done some crazy shit. This was by far the fucking craziest. was fucked up. So yeah, I mean, I think it was actually a pretty good year for it. I just think that there was a lot. We'll talk about two of the big ones, obviously. But there was just a lot of push for a lot of these big movies that was so excited for. And then it just kind of just didn't do it. I see what you're For those, yeah, those are what they are. But I think if we look at...
00:47:23
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the, the inventiveness of some of these, like once again, 28 years later, my God. And the way that they did Frankenstein and weapons having maybe one of the most satisfying endings in a horror movie ever. Yeah. yeah And sinners being fucking wild. ah and Just for instance, like I want you to remember, and you know, we'll, we'll do the in memoriam right after this, but like, i just want you to remember like when we first saw that first conjuring movie,
00:47:50
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Were we not like blown fucking away? Oh, totally. Like we were like, I was, I was just screaming i was screaming in my seat. I just watched Conjuring Last Rites. Oh no, Andrew. Oh, oh no.
00:48:04
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I should have learned my lesson from The Devil Made Me Do It or whatever that fucking movie was called. Oh no. These movies are so bad now. Oh, terrible. And it's not like I don't like the people that are in them. I like these actors. It's still a really good cast.
00:48:19
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I just... We got to retire the Warrens, man. Can we just say that they were grifters and be done with it? like It needs to be over, man. It does. it's Don't watch it. It's really, really bad. It's so dumb.
00:48:33
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Now, Andrew, i will I'll round it out here with a list. but I won't read this whole list. I'll go through some that think are the most important. And the arms of the angels. So to start off, obviously, the first big death of 2025 was David Lynch. yeah um He was 78. And God, what an absolute fucking legend he was. um Marianne Faithfull died this year, 78, incredible voice. Tom Robbins, but just an amazing author of of the Psychedelic Age, died at 92 years old old he was. That's awesome.
00:49:06
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Gene Hackman. I forgot that Gene Hackman had died. He was 95. Sad story about that death, too. you Remember, he had he hadn't been found in days when he when he when he died. Yeah, but when I, I'm not trying to be ah a weirdo here, but when I see a nine in front of your age, I'm like, good for you. yeah go fair, fair, fair. ah Roberta Flack died at 88 years old. George Foreman died at 76.
00:49:28
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many Many a burger grilled on your little George Foreman grill. um Val Kilmer died this year. Rest in peace at 65. Pope fra pope poke Francis died this year at years old. um Edmund White, if you've never heard of Edmund White, is a very important LGBT author. died at 85 years old.
00:49:47
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Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys died at 82. Connie Francis, incredible voice she had. Of the craft. Yeah. Connie Francis, a jukebox that only plays Connie Francis. Don't know Connie Francis is, honey, come here and listen. It's just, I don't know why it's in my head, but there it is. It's such a weird thing that we share. right Totally. Ozzy Osbourne at 76. That one really hit me hard. Ozzy was such a good man. he really was just a good guy. but The way he lived his life, God forbid. Man, he lived till 76. Good for him. like Hulk Hogan. I don't really care, but he's 71.
00:50:23
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um Ryan Sandberg, ah a legendary baseball player, 65. Giorgio Armani, I forgot that he died 91 years old. Love your sense. Yep, we're going to skip the next one. Robert Redford died at 89. What great actor he was. My goodness gracious. Jane Goodall, what a good soul, 91 years old.
00:50:41
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Diane Keaton was a crier for me when she died. And I'll tell you what, I just recently watched The Family Stone. oh my God, she's so good in it. It's so sad. Oh, she's so good. and Like if you have not watched that yet, this holiday season, watch it. It'll, it'll warm your heart.
00:50:59
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Um, Ace freely, uh, from kiss died at 74 Dick Cheney. He's finally dead. 84, um, Tom Stoppard, uh, amazing playwright, 88 years old, Frank Gary. listen, if you live in Chicago, you got the big Frank Gary design amphitheater, right? Millennium park. Frank, gary incredible architect, 96 years 81 years old was Jimmy Cliff, incredible ah reggae star, really, really good guy.
00:51:24
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D'Angelo, oh, D'Angelo died 49. Like remember D'Angelo? Who infected our TRL. Yes, thank God. And some other really notable, Sister Jean Schmidt, if you live in Chicago, she was the nun that loved Loyola basketball. Jim Lovell, one of the first guys on the moon mission. It should be said that 106. 106, man. Yeah. Jim Lovell died at 97. Lonnie Anderson died at 79. Malcolm Jamal Warner, Theo Huxtable, dead. Yeah. Four. It was such a sad one. I fucking like I grew up with Theo. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Michael Madsen, great actor, 67 years old. Sly Stone, 82.
00:52:04
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George Wendt. Remember that? He died at 77. Michelle Trachtenberg, 39. And Rob and Michelle Reiner, they were 78 years old, which is probably just one of the saddest things I've ever heard in my life. Just absolutely terrible, terrible what happened to them. Yeah. And we're so and we're still in the wake of that too. Like we don't, we don't really know. Like we don't know. We just don't know because like,
00:52:29
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i say what you want about politics and everything, but Rob Reiner was such a fucking great guy, man. Rob Reiner was a fucking amazing person, and so was Michelle. And you know like i'm sad i'm I'm sorry that their son has an addiction, but goddammit.
00:52:43
Speaker
like why didn't you like If I'm being real, next time just jump off a fucking bridge. like And i I mean that. like don't Don't do this. Why did you have to do that? It's so fucking sad. Terrible. It's it's like one of those things that... like Rob Reiner, he made a movie about his son's addiction and like was really trying to help him.
00:53:03
Speaker
And like, I don't know. I don't know what to say about it. It's awful. It's too soon right now for me to get into it too much. But I will say this. He did not die of Trump derangement syndrome. That that much we know for sure. so Can you not make it about you for once? Exactly. So Donald Trump, you can like if if somehow this podcast ever makes it to your ears, may you hear me saying, fuck you, you piece of absolute human garbage.
00:53:29
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And folks, that's how we end this part of the episode. we This is a long segment, but look, it's 2025, right? We had a lot to review. It long year. Exactly. so look, we're going to break it here. We'll be right back with What You Been Watching, Bitch.
00:53:45
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Let's all go the lobby. Let's all go the lobby. Let's all go to the lobby to get ourselves a treat.
00:53:56
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And we're back with what you've been watching, bitch. What you been watching, you 2025 slut. yeah Wow. You really do feel that way about 2025. And why are you talking about me that way? Why, Andrew? Why? um Listen, this is where we talk about the things we have been watching. Each of us have four selections. Andrew, why don't you give us your first what you've been watching, bitch?
00:54:20
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My first one is my annual Christmas, you know, discovery watch. and This one is called Oh, What Fun. It's on Prime. It stars Michelle Pfeiffer, which hello, Batman Returns love. um And she plays like so basically this is like the classic um Christmas movie, but told from an exhausted mom perspective. Oh, that's kind of fun.
00:54:47
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i I just kind of want to leave it there because i I don't want to give too much away because there is a lot of like little twists and turns in this movie. But like, thank God, like someone actually is being like, Hey, you know, the unsung heroes of Christmas.
00:54:59
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ah I always remember this SNL skit, not to bring up SNL again, but like um there's this SNL skit where like all the kid, the kid's like, I got a race car. And the other kid's like, I got a, blow dryer and the dad's like I got a I got a car and the mom's like and I got a robe and then but then they keep doing that and it keeps going back to her being like and and I got a robe and I was like and this is just kind of like the movie version of that and listen I'm not going to lie. I was biased just by Michelle Pfeiffer because I yeah love Michelle Pfeiffer. And so I went into this with very low expectations and I was very pleasantly surprised to have a new holiday favorite. Oh, that's lovely. Good.
00:55:42
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ah My first one is The Chair Company. We are we are in this right now. i I don't know. i don't know what to think about it it it I got to tell you, i think it's I think it's kind of brilliant. um it is it it is a fucking insane little show. What's the guy's name? Tim Henderson, is that his name? ah Did you watch any of his previous stuff? Because I didn't watch that Netflix show. Nope. This is this is the first thing that I've ever had with him. might Me too. my my brother My brother asked me the same question and so did one of my friends. I think he did something called Friendship before, didn't he? Something like but Yeah, that's the movie, but he also had a show on Netflix called You Should Leave, I think. I've never seen that either. um But this one is, i think it's really, oh, Tim Robinson is his name. um And in in the show, he's in it. Sophia Lillis is in it. ah Lake Bell, Zach Kanan, Joseph Tedisco. There's there's a bunch of people I don't really know in this, but except for Lou Diamond Phillips, who was in it, which is crazy. You know Lake Bell, though. like i do? She's been a ton of stuff.
00:56:45
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I probably just don't know her by name. yeah But anyways, like this is, I think it's a pretty good show, but it is also fucking weird. It's yeah what's, what's great about it though. It's like, and cause I don't really know.
00:56:57
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i don't really know what it's about yet, but I i feel like my brain is getting there. Yeah. and um And I'm fully caught up with it. and um And there's no more episodes, right? The season, like it's done at episode I haven't watched it all yet. We're like on episode seven, think. Okay, gotcha. So i've I've watched all eight of them. And it is um it's it's a very interesting show. and within in in the world of the show,
00:57:22
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everybody's weird. like Yeah. Like everything is weird in this little strange universe that Tim Robinson has dreamed up. And it's just, like and for people who haven't watched it, this isn't giving anything away. It all starts when he, so Tim Robinson, he's, he like works as a project manager basically.
00:57:40
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um And he is about to speak at this this company event, like a big all-hands kind of thing. And he does a great job speaking. And then when he goes to sit down in this chair, he falls off the chair because the chair like breaks. it's a really embarrassing moment for him.
00:57:58
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And that is the the start of an avalanche of insane, crazy shit. Like it's it's fucking wild. it's it's a I've never seen anything like this before in my life. I haven't. You know what it reminds me of? Yeah.
00:58:12
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It reminds me of a more serious search party. If you remember search party. Oh, yeah. No, that's that's a really interesting point. I hadn't thought about that. Yeah, yeah that makes sense i I really like the show. i just like i think I have to like i have to be in the right mood to watch it.
00:58:28
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If that makes any sense. You know, i I think one of the things that that is brilliant about it is that yeah you they he has created a character that is wild as he is. You can find yourself in it at some point in your life. where you Or someone in the show. yeah or Or someone, but most likely him. That like there have been times when you yourself have been crazy about something and absolutely just focused on it when you should not be focusing on it or going down a rabbit hole you shouldn't be going down. Like the the show is hilarious, but at the same time, it's also it is like a little bit like, oh, man, I hope this never happens to me. Like I hope yeah it's like modern conspiracy theory yeah done wrong. right like Please, please let me never develop this brain. Hopefully. Anyways, that's the chair company. I like it quite a bit.
00:59:17
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Cool. um My next one is I finally watched the materialists. Did you, have you happened to see this seen it yet? But I want to see that. um So this is the Dakota Johnson, Chris Evans, Pedro Pascal movie. She basically plays a modern day matchmaker. um ah But the way that they match people is like...
00:59:41
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I hate to put it this way, but this is what the movie posits is it's based on like human value. Like, like, do you feel valued by this person? Like how much do they make? Like, what do they do? It's very like surface level, like matchmaking. Yeah. And obviously she has an ex with Chris Evans and like, they find their way back to each other through, you know, through events and in the movie and she's got to decide whether she wants to go. It's it's kind of like um heart or head type of, you know, like choice. Listen, do I think this movie's perfect? No, but like, i i really liked it. I liked like what they were trying to say. I don't think they completely stuck the landing, if I'm being honest. um But listen, if I get to look at Chris Evans on my TV screen, I'm going to. Chris Evans.
01:00:28
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Yeah. um So I had a lot of fun with it. I thought it was a pretty good like, like quote unquote, like modern romcom um without it being like, without it being too like saccharine. You know what i mean? Okay. So I thought it was came from a realistic lens. I think it's a 24 if I remember correctly. Okay. um So, you know, take that for what it is. But like, if you're looking for like, ah it's not it's not a good feeling movie, but it is like a good, it's a good it's a good depiction of what modern day dating looks like and how weird we've put things on it, if that makes any sense. Yeah. Yeah. I recommend it.
01:01:06
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My next one is Pluribus, which is on Apple TV. Everyone's talking about this show. Yeah, it's it's this is another wild one. This is starring Rhea Sehorne. It was it was developed by Vince Gilligan, who, of course, created Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. Rhea Sehorne, of course, if you watch Better Call Saul, she was a central character of that show. um Great actress. um And this is a crazy another another. Heaven forbid I watch a normal thing. Another crazy show. um But also starring Miriam Shore, who I like quite a bit. ah and ah ah ah A large cast of other people. um So basically, um
01:01:46
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ah i don't want to give too much away, really. But like this is sort of like an alien invasion movie. There you go. And it's a wild premise. And I don't want I really don't want to say too much about it, but I think it's really good.
01:02:01
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And I'd say if you're into sort of like the alien, you know, invasion sort of like genre, um you'll probably really get into this. I think it's very well made. And I think that that there's one more episode coming out on Tuesday, I think, is is the is the final episode of of the first season. um Like all Vince Gilligan shows, it takes place in New Mexico. So it it takes place in Albuquerque, although it kind of bounces around the world.
01:02:27
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ah Just watch it. I mean, just watch the first episode and see how you feel about it. I think it's really good, good stuff. It's inventive. um I think, you know, Apple TV is sort of like 75% 25% it's kind of dumb um And this is definitely in the good category. then it's It's great creators. you know Fucking Vince Gilligan, come on. He's a TV legend. And Rhea Seahorn, this is definitely one that's like almost made for her. So I really enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to seeing what finally happens in episode nine on Tuesday.
01:02:58
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Yeah, um I just realized but before I get into my next one that three of our things on our What You've Been Watching have the same actress in it. It's so funny. That's crazy.
01:03:08
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Yeah, Sophia Lillis, who played... That's so weird. She plays the daughter in The Chair Company, and she's also in my next one, All Her Fault. Oh, my God, All Her Fault. Tell me what you thought about this.
01:03:21
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I went into this um without any knowledge of what it was. Peacock told me, watch this. It's recommended for you. So i was like you know it was a Sunday. We're like, yeah, let's give it a shot.
01:03:33
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Let's just say I lost that Sunday to this show. yes I couldn't stop watching it um Listen, i think that this is a great show. um And I think that they really stuck a lot of their landings. I think that the men in this show are the most infuriating people I've ever met in my entire, did you watch this? and I did. I did. Yeah.
01:03:59
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They're the most infuriating people I've ever met in my entire life. Not even just the main husband, but the husband of Dakota Fanning. Oh, God, yes. Made me want to pull my hair out. um But listen, so the all her fault is about this woman in Chicago, a career woman who lives on the the north suburbs. She goes to pick up her child one day, and her child's not there.
01:04:21
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And like that's just like the fallout. The rest show is just a fallout from that. And it goes places pretty crazy. um i think that ah Sarah Snook, is that her name right? It is. mean I think she does a great job. I think Dakota Fanning returned to our televisions. You know, like, loved seeing her. um That guy from White Lotus Season 1 plays a complete...
01:04:45
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asshole just like he does. He plays the same character basically. Yeah, basically. um I think it was really great. i You know, for it being like a eight... I think it's eight episodes, right? Eight or ten. um It was a really fun... Yeah, it it was a fun little ride. It was kind of like...
01:05:01
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like when we used to get movies like Gone Girl or Girl on the Train, like those kind of those kind of like mysteries, like that that's like kind of what this is, but drawn out into a 10 episode, eight episode, whatever ah story. And I really liked it. I liked where they went with it. I liked...
01:05:18
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what the little twist was amongst many. But um I just had a lot of fun with it. I think it's definitely like a, if you like movies like Single White Female or like Hand That Rocks the Cradle, like those kind of like twisty, turny, little like soap opera-y type shows, this is for you. Yeah, fair.
01:05:41
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i for For me, i watched it. And it's not that I disliked it. I just thought like, man. It took too long to get to the point. I say that. It's one of those shows where it edges you every Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, man, come like enough. like That's why I lost an entire day
Film Critiques and Recommendations
01:06:00
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to it. Exactly. It's like can you just like, can we just get to the fucking point after a while? It it was just too long. like like That would have been...
01:06:07
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i Because i I think it's got a great premise. I think it would have been so much better if it had just been like four episodes. Four episodes. Or just a two-hour movie. Or just a two-hour movie. Instead of eight or or whatever, it might have even been ten. All these episodes, it's like, oh man, come on, dude. it's just It was just too long.
01:06:25
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um I liked it. i I liked it quite a bit. i i did call it pretty early on in the show that it was like, oh, every episode we're going to concentrate on someone that didn't do it. You know? Which is exactly what it did.
01:06:37
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um My next one was a big, big surprise for me. This was Pillion. Pillion is a new film ah directed by Harry Leighton with Henry Melling, ah Harry Melling, pardon of me, who you'll remember from Harry Potter movies. and Alexander Skarsgård and in the most unlikely couple of all time. And ah this is all about Harry Melling who lives in Brompton with his parents in the UK. And, you know, just sort of a...
01:07:10
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a usual old UK existence. He's not doing a whole lot. He works for the, he where he works in in in in the civil service and he, you know he's like ah a parking ticket giver basically. And he also does barbershop quartet with his dad. And like they they go to a bar one night, him and his mom and his dad.
01:07:29
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And on the way to the bar, he sees these bikers biking past him oh Oh, this is this movie. And at this bar, they happen to meet. And and harry Harry Melling and Alexander Skarsgård, Alexander Skarsgård comes up to him, gives him his phone number, and it just goes from there. And it is, it's one of the most surprising love stories you'll ever see in your life. It is, it's it is absolutely beautiful. I loved this movie. an Incredible cast, it an incredible story, a hilarious script, just so well written. And there was one part of it more towards the end where I didn't just cry.
01:08:08
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i fucking wept in the theater. Like i I lost it. I lost it and was like audibly weeping. It was in fucking credible. And it's also a really great look into like the leather and b BDSM culture that you don't get in any realistic way in movies ever.
01:08:24
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This might be the first one that actually does it. And like, look, I'm not into leather or into BDSM or any of that really. But I know that for people who are, who are a part of our community, um they probably have been longing for a movie like this for a long time. um And so the fact that that that Harry Lighton was able to to deliver such an incredible film, ah man, I don't know. It was it was it was lovely. i I honestly can't wait to see it again. Also, Jake Shears is in it from Scissor Sisters, which was a big surprise. I loved it. It was really, really good.
01:08:57
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Incredible stuff. Yeah. Awesome. I remembered seeing the ah the preview for this and that kind of fell off my radar. So I'm excited to hear that it's like actually out now. Yeah. and you know I'll also say this is one that actually if you can see it in a cinema, go see it in the cinema um because it's it's also, i think, really beautiful. and And it just it's as always, it's nice to let distractions go and just focus on the movie. So see it if you if you can.
01:09:22
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Cool. Good to hear.
Review and Recommendations: Welcome to Dairy
01:09:23
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i I totally forgot about it. And I'm glad that you brought it back up. All right, my next one is one that finally just finished. I don't know if you've watched any of this. I don't know if it's even available to you, but it is it, Welcome to Dairy.
01:09:36
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Yeah, i I have watched some of it. i i'm I'm interested to hear what you have to think, well what would you have to say. I think that the first half is a little middling, if I'm being honest. um it It takes a little bit to get into the actual like meat of the story, but I do think the second half was really satisfying.
01:09:57
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and like And listen, I've i've read it. i am very much I'm very much in tune with this yeah sector of the Stephen King universe, if you will. Yeah. um And so it was fun to see like some of the story that you only get little parts to in the book being um fully formed into a show.
01:10:18
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um I do think that they take a little too much time to get to the point. um But when it does get to the point, it's pretty good. So I'll have to go back and give it a second chance. i watched the first couple episodes and it just turned me off.
01:10:33
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And what about it turned you off? Can i ask? Well, I mean, I think some of the monster stuff is stupid, if I'm being honest. Like like the the first thing with the baby monster and the car and then in the fee i I just ah almost immediately I was like, what the fuck is this? And and yeah I just kind of kept thinking like,
01:10:50
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Man, where's Mike Flanagan when you need him? Like, I just... I don't i don't know who the directors are on on the episodes. It's Andy Muschietti. He did the actual It movies. Oh, fair. Well, the the new It movies? Yeah.
01:11:02
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That might be why I don't like It. I'll i'll be honest. It's like, because i i liked it it I liked It part one. It part two definitely hit me the wrong way. And it just it just starts to get kind of corny for me almost. And and I just... think...
01:11:16
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if i If I can be honest with you, I think you should give it a second chance. And I think that you should get through those first three or four episodes to get um to get lay it to get the lay of the land. Because I think you're going to really like what they do with certain characters. And there's one character in there that I know that you appreciate, a little Dick Halloran that I think is going to give you something that you...
01:11:40
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As a fan of The Shining and as a fan of Dr. Sleep, to see the – The universe. The show of Dick Halloran and where they take that character, think you're going to really like it. Okay. Then even hearing that for sure, then I'll definitely come back to it. It was just like, man – I don't It didn't start off. I'll be totally honest with you. It did not start strong, but it does end strong.
01:12:05
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You know, ah it's, it's interesting. but I was talking to my brother about it and he was like, did you watch it? we were, we were having the same discussion and I was like, yeah, it didn't really hit me. Right. he's like He's like, yeah, same for me. And he was the one who was actually like, God, I just wish Mike Flanagan had directed it.
01:12:17
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and i was like, oh my God, totally. And I was like, you know, when I think about directors and Stephen King, I really think like it's Mike Flanagan and and and honestly, it's Rob Reiner. Like they they are two that I think really understand that Stephen King isn't about, it's not it's not about monsters. It's about humans. yeah And like, and they they know that so deeply that I think whenever I see any other interpretation of King that doesn't sort of meet that same vision, it's it's hard for me to like it. But i'll I'll go back to this one and give it a second chance. I will.
01:12:51
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Yeah, it's it's definitely a second half of the season is much stronger than the first half. so And that's all. And before I do that, I will tell you
Exploring Wake Up, Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
01:12:59
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my last one, which is Wake Up, Dead Man, a Knives Out Mystery. It's the night. Which I'm going to watch today. Yeah, you know, look, i i think it's good. um it's ah my My friend Kieran was just asking me, hey, but what did you think about it? And I was like, you know, I'll be honest.
01:13:12
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is It's a little boring getting moving. And like like, honestly, I got the first couple times I tried to watch this, I got distracted. And then I was like, oh, wait a minute. I'm watching a movie um because like that's kind of how boring it was to me. Are you kissing? no I wish I was. I wish I had been. um But um when i when I finally like sat down, got rid of my distractions and sat with it, I i do think it's really good. and I think you've got Josh O'Connor, who I love. You've got Glenn Close. And I forget all the other names right now because that's my brain at the end of this week. um But I really enjoyed it. I think it's an inventive story.
01:13:48
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i think it's got a great ending. It's got all the the stuff that you love about Knives Out movies now. um And i I thought it was really good. So, you know, I enjoyed it. Just, you know, if it feels a little boring at the start, try to just push through. And and and I promise you, in the same way that you were just telling me, it's it's going to end up really good in the end, I think.
01:14:07
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Yeah, I'm excited to watch it. i just We have not had time to just sit down and watch it. Girl, I get you. Ready. I'm ready for it. As soon as we're done with this recording, I'm probably going to turn it on. so Well, that's it for what you've been watching. We are all over it we're all over each other on this recording right now. It's hilarious. You know what, folks? It's been a long year. You know what i mean? um How about this? Andrew, you brought us...
01:14:31
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Oh What Fun on Prime, The Materialist on HBO, All Her Fault on Peacock, and It's Welcome to Dairy on HBO. And Maddie brought us The Chair Company, which in the U.S. you can watch on HBO, but in the U.K. it looks like on Sky, Pluribus, which is on Apple TV, Pillian, which is in the cinemas now, and Wake Up Dead Man, a Knives Out Mystery, which just premiered on Netflix. So folks, that does it for What You've Been Watching, bitch. We'll be right back with our first film of the episode, I Know What You Did Last Summer.
01:15:04
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Thanks for coming! Can you believe our best friends are getting married? I'm like, envelope? Could it be cash?
01:15:17
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check? A check?
01:15:31
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Oh my God. I'm calling 911. Everyone, chill out! We don't tell anybody what happened tonight. We should go.
01:15:41
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What does it say? What if someone saw us? Outside of us, no one knows what happened, right?
01:15:58
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Hello?
01:16:05
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No. Please.
01:16:09
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Please stop. Someone is clearly coming after us. need to start drinking.
01:16:21
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The cops are not gonna help us. Then we'll find someone who will. It isn't something like talking about. You survived this once. We need your help.
01:16:37
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You can't run. You can't hide. Get them before they get you.
01:16:56
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Whoever's doing this, it's personal to them.
01:17:03
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One of us is hiding something.
01:17:12
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We are not going to die today.
01:17:23
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What are you waiting?
01:17:28
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It's not that I know what you did last summer, but I do. So what did you do last summer, Matty? Tell me all about it. I don't not not know what you did last summer. um I know what you did last summer. Again, um five friends vow to take a dark secret to the grave, but the past won't stay buried. After a deadly accident on a coastal road, five friends agree to cover up what they've done and move on with their lives.
01:17:57
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One year later, they begin receiving ominous messages from someone who knows the truth. As a masked killer stalks them using methods eerily similar to past murders in Southport, the group is forced to confront buried secrets, lingering guilt.
01:18:12
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and the terrifying legacy of earlier killings. I Know What You Did Last Summer was directed by Jennifer Caitlin Robinson, written by Leah McKendrick, produced by Columbia Pictures, original film, TSG Entertainment, and Mandalay Pictures, distributed by Sony Pictures Releasing. Ava Brooks was played by Chase Suey Wonders.
01:18:31
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Danica Richards played by Madeline Klein. Teddy Spencer played by Tyric Withers. Milo Griffin played by Jonah Hauer King. Stevie Ward played by Sarah Pidgeon. Julie James played by none other than Jennifer Love Hewitt. Ray Bronson played by Freddie Prinze Jr. And yes, even Helen Shivers is in this one, played by Sarah Michelle Gellar. It is rated R. It's 110 minutes long, which, by the way...
01:18:56
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Both movies today were 110 minutes long, which was bizarre. Made in America came out July 18th, 2025, filmed in Australia, in New South Wales, and also in l L.A. The budget is a surprising low $18 million. dollars yeah And it only brought in $65 million, which I was very surprised about, too. So that is I know what you did last summer. um Andrew, tell me what you thought.
01:19:23
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So listen, you know, we covered, I know you did last summer, long time ago. Like one of our, think it's one of our first 10 episodes or something like that. long, long time ago. My God. So I was pretty pumped for this. was like ready to return to this universe. And I just, at the end of it, I kind of feel like there are two different movies happening in this telling of this movie.
01:19:49
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There's kind of the you know new cast of characters and like what happens to them. and then there's like this weird forced nostalgia into the old one to where we're we we we are meant to like we have to care about this and with the the Julie James and the Rey. And and we'll you know we'll talk about where the twists and turns go in a little bit here. But like we're kind of forced into that universe. And then we're even given... Did you stay for the after-credits sequence?
01:20:19
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Sorry, Andrea, I was on mute for a minute there because I once i was eating a potato chip. um No, I didn't. But now that you said that, I will because I rented it and I will go back and watch the end. So we'll talk about it in a little bit here. But um overall, I think like...
01:20:32
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I think that like the story is fine. i think like I don't think they take advantage of enough of their um they're their universe, if you will, because there is a lot in there that there's to say. There's like the youth pastor thing that they don't really go into too much. There's the ah the dad that's like kind of like the real estate mogul that they kind of kind of go into, but they kind of don't.
01:20:56
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And I just feel like they don't, they don't commit to like what they want to do here. Like it's, it's so surface level that it's hard to really care about any of the characters because listen, I actually think Danica, Danica is like a pretty fun character. Like that actress is actually pretty good. And I think that she's fun to like watch on screen. And she, she plays off of like, I mean, let's be honest. She's the, she's the Helen shivers of this new movie. Like she's the, she's the scene stealer, but like,
01:21:26
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and Not to be mean, but like this Ava Brooks ah Chase is her real name. I don't think she's a good actress. Sorry. like i think that they gave her a really bad wig and they said, go act in this movie. And I don't know. There's just something...
01:21:43
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there's there's something non, there's no soul in this movie. That's what I feel like. And I feel like they just, they made it to make a money and I'm kind of disappointed because I do see in the script and I do see in the story where there could have been something cool. I just don't think that they ever committed to like what the movie was supposed to be about.
01:22:04
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And then they add in all these other things that don't matter, like this fucking bisexual podcaster that doesn't even matter to the story. i don't know i'm i'm kind of angry at this movie i still kind of liked it but i'm still kind of angry what about you uh yeah i did not like this um i i i like i gave it a half a stripe more when we get to the scoring just because i love freddie prince jr that's yeah that's it um and sarah michelle of course and jennifer love huge tits which is what we used to call her in high school do you remember that that's so awful It's terrible. I was thinking of that before we watched it. I was like, oh, man, why? Why did we? Why do we think that was good to say it was not good to say? Anyways, um I just think it's a corny, cheesy movie and it's full of corny, cheesy lines. And it's it's like, you know, for example, like the Madeline Klein Danica character when like there's all these things going on and they're sitting around outside and they're talking and then she's like, I need to start drinking. and then And then the guy, what's his name, Teddy, it like offers her either a beer or a flask. It was just so like it was so stupid. like it's just It's just dumb. And like to a certain degree, I know that it's supposed to be that way. like There's supposed to be lines like that. And there's supposed to be sort of transparent characters that don't have a whole lot to them, to be honest.
01:23:22
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But... Like this this movie didn't come out when the original one came out. And so it it comes out now in the context of 2025 where I think like, yeah, even for fun movies, we do expect a lot more and a lot less of stuff that doesn't matter. But, you know, like you just said there, what is what actually was the plot point behind that podcaster being bisexual and those two having sex?
01:23:44
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in the airport. What was the point of that? Like, honestly, but beside besides, besides a lot about that character, besides the point of having a bisexual person in the movie as like some sort of like virtue signal, I don't understand why that was that important. It really wasn't. And in fact, I think it just sort of cheapened that character. And I just want to be really clear here. I'm not saying bisexual people are cheap. That's not it. I'm just saying like,
01:24:08
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it It doesn't make any sense. Like, what's what's the point of this? It's dumb. And like, after a while, all these sort of just like silly throwaway lines that you hear from these characters, they just sort of grate on you. And like, you know, look, maybe things grate more when you have a horror podcast. And like, look, this isn't necessarily a film that I would choose to watch. And and that's okay if it is one that you want to watch. It's just, it's not my bad, man. I don't need to watch the new one. I like the old one well enough. But like maybe because it's a horror podcast and I'm watching it for that reason, I'm like, oh man, I got to sit through this motherfucker, which is sort of how it felt.
01:24:46
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um I watched this on the on the planet. It's funny. I watched both of these movies on on a plane and i rewatched it today. um But like when I was watching it on the plane, I just shut it off because I was like, this isn't even worth my fucking time. It's just not. And unfortunately, that's that's just kind of how it feels at the end of it. I don't know. I guess I'm pretty harsh on it, but I don't know. We watch a lot of movies. You got to be harsh about something.
01:25:09
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Well, no. I mean, it's just, there are a lot of things that this movie meanders around. And, ah you know, i will to I will stick to my word on on this podcaster because at the end of... so let's spoil a little bit of the ending.
01:25:23
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Ray is one of the murderers. Like, he's helping. um ah What's her face? ah Stevie. um But... And his whole, his, his plot point is keep Southport, Southport, like keep it like these people came in and gentrified my town and did this stuff. And like, but then, so this podcaster is coming to tell your story to a larger audience. Yeah.
01:25:52
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And getting your story out there more. Yeah. So why would you want to kill her? It doesn't it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. it that that That specific character drove me insane because you could literally lift, like with your little pinky and your little thumb, you could lift her out of the movie and none of it would make any difference. Yeah.
01:26:12
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but True. And also, I i don't like Freddie Prinze Jr. being the killer at the end of it. I'm not going to lie. that I did not agree with that twist. I don't think that it's everything that he went through, i don't think that he would eventually hate Julie, first of all. yeah And then second of all, like turn on his own town. I just don't see it. It doesn't make sense for the character. It's just dumb. And and I, you know, look, how many of these movies have there been now?
01:26:37
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Okay, so there's I Know what you Did Last Summer. There's I Still Know What You Did Last Summer. then there's I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer, which has nothing to do with, yeah it only includes the fishermen. It's not anything to do with this timeline. sure And then there's this one. So there's four. is horse yeah I mean, i just i think there's three too many. Yeah.
01:26:58
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I mean, hear me out. I think that there is a good story in this. I kind of like the angle of like the real estate mogul coming in and like taking advantage of like the real estate prices because of what happened with the tragedy and like and people being like mad at that. like i think that there's I think that's enough to build a story around. and I don't think you need all of this padding all around it about...
01:27:24
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ah it but And literally, can I just say something? What did these kids really do wrong? I mean, if I'm being honest, I felt the same way about that too. I was like, look, it's an accident. But like they didn't...
01:27:36
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They didn't murder somebody. that's They actually actively tried to save the guy. Exactly. So I mean, like, it just like even that, like, so so then like the very basic premise of what we have here, it doesn't work, right? it It just doesn't. It wasn't a murder. It was it truly was an accident.
01:27:54
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Like that's, I don't know what else to say. We have to remember the original premise. Like they literally actively threw someone in the ocean to get rid of a body. like Something different.
01:28:06
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You know, they, they happened to be in the, in the street. They were all celebrating 4th of July. the The girl that drove them up there was stone cold sober. Like it, it, it, they, it was an accident. It's very, and very unfortunate, but it's an accident. It's not an, an, on an awfully like planned road. You know what mean? yeah I mean, like, I don't know what else to say. and You know, like that, that, that Teddy character is also just, i I hate it when you get like these uber macho masculine archetype characters because they're just, they're nothing but that. Well, that's what bugged me.
01:28:41
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It's so one dimensional. And, and, and that is a a big problem I have with the movie in general, because it's that same one dimensionality is played over and over again. Milo is also one dimensional. That's what I mean though. All they did was cast people to look like the original people. likes And it's stupid.
01:28:57
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Like the the Milo character does nothing. it says He doesn't do anything. And then he just dies. And we're supposed to like feel some sort of empathy for this character when she finds him murdered in his own car. And he's also not that cute.
01:29:12
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He's got a weird face. I will say. yeah like what he Because he I feel like he's in things because people think that he's really handsome. um And I just don't see it. He's very pale. I don't know. Yeah. um No, but like, i just think that some some people are kind of wasted in this movie. Like, I think that like, well, listen, we know Jennifer Love Hewitt and Freddie Prinze Jr. exist in this world. They could do more, but like, they have little little to zero to do with the initial incident that happens. yeah So when...
01:29:45
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um ah Ava goes to confront Julie and she was like, you've dealt with something like this before. And i was like, no, this really these are these are two different things. It's totally, it might be the same style of killer, I guess, but like these are unrelated things happening. They they don't have any special tips for you to get out of the situation.
01:30:06
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Right. It's not, it's not a scream situation where you're like, no you know, the murderer knows you or like, well, you know what i mean? Like, now Where like in Scream, there's a puzzle that they can help you figure out.
01:30:18
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yeah This does not have that at all. There's no puzzle. No, there's no puzzle at all. i mean And also, like it would it would be totally unsolvable. like i mean Truly, bringing bringing Freddie Prinze Jr.'s character, Ray, bringing him out as the murderer is out of left field. There's no way there's no way that you're like, ah, it's Ray. I got it. it's I'm going to tell you why this guy doesn't make sense to be the killer. wait Please tell me.
01:30:42
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There is a moment on the boat at the end where you finally learn that Stevie, who it makes sense that she's one of the killers. Like i kind of get it. like I mean, I don't agree with that. I think that's also stupid. I'll be very honest, but like, whatever, here we are. Like someone has to be, you know what i mean? Like that kind of a thing. Yeah.
01:30:59
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um But there's a moment where he is holding a gun to her and he's basically saying like, hey, why didn't you come to me? Like, why didn't you like ask me? like and And then he like, but I'm like, and she reacts in a way of like, well, you would have never understood. You would have never understood me. duda I'm like, this doesn't make sense if you guys are working together. Like this doesn't this this doesn't track. Like I don't, there's...
01:31:23
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And then there's another moment earlier on in the movie where they're in an alley and Ray's just kind of like loading things in and she's trying to call all the different friends and she's like, nobody's picking up like dah, dah, dah, dah. That's not two killers plotting. Like, you know what i mean? Like, yeah, it's, it's, it's a twist for, it's a twist for twist sake that doesn't line up with the rest of the movie.
01:31:46
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You know what i mean? Yeah, I do. I mean, it's just, you know, it just, it just doesn't work. It just doesn't. but And here's what I will say. like there ah There is some like funny writing in here. i think like there's a really funny line early on in the movie where she's like, it's not astrology, it's empathy. like And um ah when she turns on her little meditation and she's like, welcome to your meditation, queen. and it was like, this...
01:32:12
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see I think that's funny. for For me, though, I hear those. And and like, yeah, mean it is kind of funny. but like, also, it's like a huge eye roll for me. I hear it and I'm like, oh, my God, this is it's just like it's so cornball, like complete cornball.
01:32:25
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Welcome to the world. I mean, yeah, but like, I mean, like it does it just doesn't have to be that way. But then again, like, I don't know, maybe maybe. ah But the other thing is, maybe I'm taking it too seriously for what you did last summer. But, you know, here we are having a podcast. We're watching it from a lens that we have to critique it. so Exactly.
01:32:40
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um I do think that there there are a couple of like funny throwaway lines ah when i forget who exactly says it. I think it's the the the main like ah Teddy Tyreek.
01:32:52
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I think he says something along lines of like, why don't we just get on a boat and go to the Bahamas? And I do think it's funny that Freddie Prinze Jr. goes, what does he say? He says, for reasons I won't go into that won't work. And I was like, oh, that's kind of a funny little throwback to I Still Know What you Did Last Summer, which is funny. um do think that they did try, I just don't think they committed to like, what is this supposed to be? Is this supposed to just be a nostalgia trip? Or is this supposed to be a new thing that just happens to be in that universe? And I don't think that they commit to either one or the other. And I think that's where they kind of went wrong. You know what? I think that's a good perspective. And I think that you're correct. I don't think it knows where it wants to go. And listen, do I love seeing Sarah Michelle Gellar back as Helen Shivers? Hell yeah. Yeah, that's great. And I do love when she's in there. What does she say? She says something like, careful, sweetheart, I have the hook now or something like that. That's pretty good. Oh, my God.
01:33:52
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Yeah, I mean, like, think one of the things that is maybe different about this one as opposed to the next movie that we're going talk about, which are both, you know, bringing up, you know, the franchises that kind of grew up with each other. One commits to the bit and one doesn't. I think I think you're right. And like, even just thinking about the kills, like the kills in Final Destination are out of control, which is what you expect. Like they're supposed to they're supposed to be that way.
01:34:16
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The stuff in this one also kind of sucked, if I'm being honest. It was just like, okay, whatever. Well, and like the fact that they have to like shoehorn in what are you waiting for or fuck the 4th of July, couldn't agree more. Like there's just like some, I'm sorry. i I love Jennifer Love Hewitt and I love Freddie Prinze Jr. I don't think they belong in this movie. I don't think so either.
01:34:40
Speaker
Which is a shame because like i be I actually but i would love to see like them again, but not in this plot line. Well, this is where I'll bring up the after credit sequence. What happened? So the after credit sequence, we cut to Brandy.
01:34:57
Speaker
And she is watching the news at night and it's talking all about what happened in Southport. And she's like, Jesus Christ, this girl can't catch a break. And then Jennifer Love Hewitt shows up at her door and she goes, I'm so sorry. i didn't want to bring you into this. And she hands her a photo and it's a photo of them two from I Still Know what You Did Last Summer. Brandy is X'd out and on the back it says it isn't over. Oh my God. Why why did they...
01:35:25
Speaker
Why do they do that after for credits? I don't know. And then it's funny because if you watch it after that, then Brandy is in the credits. Like it's like, and Brandy as. God. And listen, definitely going to go watch that now. And listen, do I want to watch that movie?
01:35:41
Speaker
I do. Yeah. so yeah But like, you know, have, but have ah honestly have the balls to make that movie then. then just choose a lane. Like, honestly. How did Paul make that movie? That would have been a much better movie than what we had to watch. If that after credit sequence would have been the preview for the next movie, fucking people be lining up across the universe to go see that movie. Across world, baby. Like hand in hand.
01:36:05
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Well, listen, Andrew, what did you rate this movie? Give it to us. All right. Here at Friday the 13th Horror Podcast, we grade on a seven stripes scale for the seven stripes of the gay old rainbow. For I Know It Last Summer 2025 edition, I unfortunately can only give it a 3.5. I think it's just an average movie.
01:36:21
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I gave it a three below average. And I said it's just tired and cheesy. think the writing is just ridiculous and a plot that's just silly and a franchise that needs to stop. But knowing what I know now, maybe there's one more that I actually do want to see.
01:36:34
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Yeah, and i I said, I actually like a lot of the new characters, even though the story is paper thin. But it's when you weave in Julie and Ray is where it feels almost parody. They should have just left it with mentions of Helen Shivers. Isn't that just such a shame?
01:36:48
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ah Anyways, folks, that's it for I Know What You Did Last Summer. We'll be right back with our next film, Final Destination Bloodlines.
01:37:15
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Family, you don't get to pick the one you get. Just gotta love the one you got.
01:37:23
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I always knew this day would come. I got it. I don't think you got it. a
01:37:31
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I held him off for years. Charlie! Get up here! He's a relentless son of a bitch.
01:37:43
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Won't stop till he finishes the job.
01:37:51
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Death is coming for our family. I said, oh, oh, oh,
01:38:08
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and what's happening to us years ago i had a premonition that started it all and saw what death was about to do
01:38:29
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I saved a lot of lives that night. Everyone needs to get off the dance floor! Lives that were never meant to be saved. But death doesn't like it when you mess with his plans.
01:38:41
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This book, it will show you everything you need to know to keep our family safe.
01:38:48
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It all started with grandma. Death is coming for us because we were never supposed to exist. Watch out! Only by embracing death will it pass you by.
01:39:04
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Maybe death's not actually coming for our family. Because that would be crazy.
01:39:18
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Are you checking your bags to your final destination? Andrew, tell us about the latest entry in the Final Destination franchise. Death runs in the family.
01:39:30
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Plagued by recurring nightmares of a catastrophic accident decades earlier, a college student returns home to uncover the horrifying truth. Death has been methodically claiming the descendants of survivors who were never meant to live. As fate closes on their bloodline, she must unravel the origin of death's design before it reaches the final member of her family, herself.
01:39:55
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Actually, it's her brother, but that's fine. they were direct Directed by Zach Lipovsky and Adam B. Stein. Written by Guy Busick and Laurie Evans Taylor. Based on the characters created by Jeffrey Reddick, friend of the show. a Production and distribution were handled by New Line Cinema and Practical Pictures in freshman year. Distributed by Warner Brothers Pictures. Stephanie Reyes is played by Caitlin Santuana.
01:40:22
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Eric is played by Teo Briones. Charlie is played by Richard Harmon, who we saw in the Chucky series. Darlene is played by Rhea Kilstead. And William Bloodworth is played by none only than Tony fucking Todd his final movie.
01:40:39
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and his final movie Rated R, this comes in at 110 minutes, as we discussed previously. Released on May 16th of 2025. Locations included Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. And then the budget on this was $50 million. But, spoiler alert, it grossed $316 million. So, yeah Final Destination ain't dead. Let's just say that. no it happens Maddie, what did you think on your first watch of Marvel?
01:41:07
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Final Destination Bloodlines. This is actually my second watch. The first time I watched it was on an airplane going to America um to see you guys. And I know that there's no airplane stuff in this, but just watching Final Destination on an airplane is a wild thing to do. It's weird. You're just like, oh, why did I make this decision? But I had a lot of fun with this. I really did. I think it's a great – I think it's a film that is very well done. And they do – I think there are parts of it that I also don't like. Don't worry. I'll get to those.
01:41:44
Speaker
But like this this it it um it it rolls along at at a good speed, i think. So it's 110 minutes, but it doesn't feel like that in my opinion Not at all. Yeah. And um it's all the final destination stuff that you really love. It's all the crazy, insane ways that these things come and come into being. It's kills that are absolutely off the chain in sane. For example, when Iris dies, Grandma Iris dies and that fucking thing comes through her fucking face. And gets blood all over What's-Her-Face. Jesus fucking Christ. That was insane stuff. And and plus, it's like the whole opening sequence. Seeing and believing. Right. This whole opening sequence part with the tower and everything is just, it's wild. i mean, you can see why the budget was what it was because it costs quite a bit of money to make this movie. um yeah I think the the parts of this that I don't like are, you know, it's it's one of those movies ah where...
01:42:41
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the the main character is trying to tell everybody what's going on and just nobody believes them. Yeah. Even with a bunch of data, nobody believes them. And even after they see things happen, nobody believes them. And it's it's like up to a certain point, you're like, okay, enough.
01:42:56
Speaker
Like enough. that that that That doesn't work anymore. But they just kind of keep going with it. Like like her dad in this just like won't give it a rest. And it's that that really drove me nuts because i I hate it when that happens in any movie, let alone this one.
01:43:11
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um There were also some characters in the movie that I just didn't like. Like the the the the the cousin, the the brother, the one with all the tattoos and the piercings, whatever his name is. He drove me off the fucking wall.
01:43:22
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and And like, I get it. Like he's he's look he's not really in the bloodline. And so he he's supposed to look different. I'm sure that that' sure that that's why they cast him this way, because he's actually somebody else's son and this and that, whatever. But like they they push like the the black sheep thing a little too far with him.
01:43:43
Speaker
And I just thought that was kind of silly. So i I wasn't a big fan of his character, but also like whatever he he has to be there to get things done. and Other than that, though, that's really all that I didn't like. Like everything else I had a great time with. And, you know, for me, I can fucking complain about anything for hours. and I'm not doing that with this one. I really genuinely enjoyed it. I enjoyed it on the plane.
01:44:03
Speaker
i enjoyed it at my house this morning. I would eat green eggs and ham no matter where I am. You know what i mean? So this is this is a good one. Jeffrey Reddick, I'm glad to see you are still cashing in on Final Destination because you should be. This is wonderful. I had a great time.
01:44:16
Speaker
What about you? Yeah, I saw this in the theaters when it came out. Oh, that'd be fun. i So this is a weird one because like before you picked it, because you know the little peek behind the curtain, when we do our end-of-the-year movies, kind of each one of us just picks one that like we think is significant for the for the year. And there there was a lot of movies in contention for this this year, but we kind of wanted to save some of them for other topics.
01:44:43
Speaker
yeah And so we were like you know like, let's just do the big ones. like So that's how we ended up with Final Destination Bloodlines. But I've seen this movie like five times. so like um i Listen, i think that this is one of the strongest openings of the Final Destination films. Oh, hell yeah. I think that this goes hand in hand with like a Final Destination 2, with like the car scene of like what I'm going to remember. You know what i mean? like Oh, yeah. um I think that they do a fucking great job of setting up a kind of a...
01:45:17
Speaker
a really sad story like with the whole like ah you know she she's pregnant she gets engaged and all this shit all happens there's a kid there's a mom that like dies horribly like yeah this is one of the more devastating like i don't know i think it's because it's family it feels more devastating if that makes sense yeah it does um But like, I just think that this one does a really good job of finding the wackiness that is Final Destination and weaving in with a story that you actually care about. Because like, let's be honest, I think this is the third Final Destination movie we've reviewed on this podcast. godve done two We've done two and three. We've not done the other ones. God. um and And I think that this one just does a good job of like actually giving a little bit more character to the characters. i completely agree. Yeah. um You know, even though you don't like Eric, you don't really like the the black sheep character. He still gets like his own storyline. He does. still like has his own thing. Yeah, fair. Yeah.
01:46:18
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Even like kind of throwaway characters like Julia, who's like the the girl cousin. Yeah. um She even gets like kind of a little bit of an arc of like where she's mad at her cousin for like not. What a death for her. My God. who I think that that's, I think the misdirect in that death is the best I've seen in a very long time. It's absolutely fucking nuts. Like all of it is, all of it is nuts. Fuck. Okay.
01:46:43
Speaker
the The deaths are fucking nuts. First of all, the one death that you love to see is that little fucking shithead kid getting hit by fucking piano at the end. So fucking good. The only thing that would have made that better is if I could have seen what he how he died in real life later. God, please, yes. What a little fucking piece of shit. Anyways, um ah the the annoying cousin and getting sucked into an MRI machine by a yeah with a fucking... wheelchair behind him so that it splits him open. That's insane. Well, do you know that that, do you know what that references to well tell tell me?
01:47:18
Speaker
So when you see him, like when his guts basically get displayed in the MRI, that is a direct ah sequence to the movie poster of final destination for Oh, okay. All right. so It's like ah the rebar coming through like a skull. That is some deep ass knowledge, Andrew.
01:47:37
Speaker
i i Listen, i hate that I love these movies. ah um i didn't Listen, i think that, you know, we got to talk about the Tony Todd of it all. Oh, sweet Tony Todd.
01:47:51
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ah He had tragically died after this, but... and And he was looking like he was not in good shape, for sure. Well, I think he had stomach cancer, if I remember correctly. yeah um But they let him ad-lib that final line. And that makes me sad.
01:48:09
Speaker
Tony, you know, Tony Todd, truly, truly a film legend, like such a bold actor to give himself to roles ah it in horror and to do it so seriously and to do it ah in a way that that he really gave it his all. he He truly committed to each role. i mean, can you imagine can you imagine a horror world without Tony Todd, without Candyman? No, not Candyman.
01:48:33
Speaker
Not me. Candyman is quintessential one of the movies that terrified me as a child. and and And remains to this day one of the best horror films ever made, period. and An incredible story and an incredible character brought to life by a man who knew how to do it. And even in this movie that he is barely in, he's barely in this, he gives life to something in such an an amazing way. Like we we, you know what, we were just all blessed to be alive when he was. I really mean that. Just an incredible guy.
01:49:03
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Yeah, his ad lib line is, I intend to enjoy the life, or I intend to enjoy the time that I have left, and I suggest that you do the same. Oh my God. That's so sad. at Jesus. Oh God almighty. Fuck.
01:49:16
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, listen. at the end of the day, we're talking about a final destination movie. So it's all about like the, um, like where's the kill coming from? Where's the next one coming from?
01:49:27
Speaker
And like, honestly, like I kind of am a little bit mad at the marketing team on this movie. What do you know? Well, because the ah the initial preview for this movie was essentially the barbecue scene. Like, that's like, we got like that whole, almost that entire scene. And so, like, all of the tension of like, ah Eric is hooking up the grill and the ah the the the boy puts up the glass and the glass falls and it goes in the ice. And then you have all the people drinking their glasses and you have the that kid on the trampoline. And like...
01:50:01
Speaker
That's all spoiled because you already know what's going to happen. Yeah, fair. Because it's not in the trailer. So it takes away all the tension. How about the whole How dad's fucking face getting eaten by the wall? I know. That's the thing, too. So, you know, I'm watching this on the fucking plane. And, you know, like you got your little dumb screen. I always sit in the front row. So, like, mine is not, it's not part of a seat in front of me, you know? And so I'm watching it and like, I know other people can see my screen and I'm like, what the fuck is this? Oh, it was so fucked up. Jesus. But like, oh, and I want to, I want to say. I mean, Andrew, can you imagine that?
01:50:37
Speaker
Can you fucking scenes? That's funny. But you're watching, literally watching somebody getting eaten by a lawnmower and everyone's just screaming around you. oh Fuck. Fuck.
01:50:47
Speaker
Well, the fact that these people have a soda gun in their backyard. Oh, God. Like, are you kidding me? Like, Jesus. not It's not like they have like a soda stream. It's like they have a commercial grade soda gun. who Who has that really? And also the house isn't even that nice. You know what i mean? Like, it's nice, but it's like you're not that rich. Come on. And also you have a complete soda gun and everyone's just going to drink soda water. i don't know. I don't think so. It's very bizarre. And also remember, it's like when they're when they're teasing you about the the dad about to drink the fucking, you know, glass shard fucking drink. Yeah.
01:51:21
Speaker
I'm like, no, motherfucker. Someone gives you a drink on a hot day. You're going be gulping that shit. You're not going to be oh, put me right to your lips. And maybe you're like, nope, nope, not going to. No, maybe it won't. Nope, nope. Oh, no, I want to put it down. Come on.
01:51:36
Speaker
Yeah, no, I agree. It's just, it's like one of those things like, ah but this is, but, but at the end of the day, this is a Final Destination movie. So you kind of need, you need these like tension inducing scenes of like, who's going to get it? Like, who's going to get it I'm looking at Letterboxd right now and apparently Final Destination 7 is already in the works.
01:51:55
Speaker
Oh, yeah did you did you not hear 316 million? i i did Yeah, yeah. be Very good point. But it's going to be called Final Destination Omen. and the And there is, and look, I don't know how much of this is correct, but it's on Letterboxd, so I'm assuming that it it must be.
01:52:10
Speaker
um The picture of of the maybe poster is a ship on fire, like a cruise ship on fire. Ooh. Final Destination 7 directed by Michel Blanchard. I don't know who that is. um' They've also directed um not a lot of other things, which is kind of crazy. You ship kind of makes sense to me, though. Like that would be a logical like next could crazy thing to happen. Yeah. So I don't know. but There's there's one in the works anyway.
01:52:40
Speaker
Listen, I'll go watch it. I will. Yeah, absolutely. I had a great time. um Let's talk about the deaths really quick. So we have the the initial scene with the the tower, which I think is actually done really well. I think some of the CGI towards the end of it is not great. yeah But I think for the most part, they really do a great job with it.
01:53:01
Speaker
um I think that, you know, Bloodworth being that kid is a good little twist in the in the lore of of the the overall universe. um And then we move on. Obviously, we've already talked about the lawnmower scene. I think that when she calls, like when she goes, yeah, what if that tree branch trimmer falls and then that the lawn and then they pay it off with Julia? I think that's a great misdirect. Yeah. Because they they call back to like the, they call back to so many things in the, uh, the final destination universe that you don't even realize until you put it all together. Like where he almost gets hit by that truck is that girl from the first movie. You know, there's a log truck that like drives by them at one point. Like there's, there's references literally to almost all of them except for the roller coaster. yeah.
01:53:50
Speaker
ah What else? We have the garbage truck, then the um MRI. There's... ah What else? What else there? Oh, the mom gets crushed by like a phone pole? Something like that, yeah.
01:54:02
Speaker
And then, you know, we get the end where, you know, we inevitably have to see our main characters get it too. um The one thing I will say about this movie that they kind of sideline and it kind of drove me crazy this time is that the people that are not quote unquote in the bloodline. Yeah. They're just out of the movie.
01:54:21
Speaker
Like the, the, the wife of the, the lawnmower guy and their dad, like once they put like quote unquote, like play their purpose in the movie, they just are out of the movie. They they don't try to, they don't try to help. They don't try to like, you know what mean? Like it's kind of weird that like, yeah I had an affair. Now I've got to go. Bye everybody. I'm done. Goodbye. that's never literally and Yeah. That's all that you hear from her. And it's, just that is, that is kind of crazy.
01:54:48
Speaker
Yeah, so that kind of drove me nuts a little bit because I'm like, don't you think that mom would try would would be trying just as hard to save her kids as the mom that's inevitably going to die? Like, you know what i mean? like yeah It just doesn't make sense to me and in the and the long scheme of things. But it's minor squibbles when it comes to you know a movie about people dying. Yeah.
01:55:12
Speaker
um Yeah, I don't know. ah Did you have any like memory? Like what were like what was your favorite ah ah kill or sequence in this in this one? I mean, I'd say i'd say the the the it's you know it's not my my favorite, but, um you know, because they're just all crazy deaths. But I mean, probably the the the most shocking one to to watch is when Iris is killed ah once again.
01:55:35
Speaker
And she you know she says, seeing is believing because she wants her to understand like this is what's coming for you. And so she just stands outside of her house. And then the fucking like ah the weather vane on the house comes off. And then it hits the fucking thing. And then this thing, that thing, whatever. And something, I forget what it is right now, shoots right through her fucking face, right into her granddaughter's fucking face.
01:55:57
Speaker
And that was just insane to watch. So for me, it's either that one or it's got to be the guy getting eaten by the lawnmower because it's just... I just, i um I couldn't stop laughing. I know it's not funny, but like, it's just what a fucking insane thing to see. Absolutely. i did like that sequence where we get introduced to Iris and there's a point where she like moves ah like a, like a, what you call that? A monocular glass? What do you call that? A monocle?
01:56:24
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but You know that magnifying glass? that's Magnifying glass. Where she moves it and there's like sunlight that comes in and it starts to burning the the potted plant. And I love when she goes, i see you, you fuck. she But funny enough, that comes back to the end of the movie where that plant falls and it hits the gas tank and ignites the house, which are all part of it.
01:56:49
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When that fucking woman gets blasted. I don't know but i don't know if you clocked it or not, but they have a body double that goes fucking flying. And it's, I hate to say it's funny, but it's really funny. It's funny though. I mean, come on. I mean, that's the thing is the, it gets so ridiculous after a while. You almost can't help but laugh.
01:57:12
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they're Okay, so there I have one thing on my note that i I clocked, but Michael was like, oh, I didn't even clock that. It's like when they're having their family meeting, like about like, I think at this point, just the dad has died. Yeah. And she's like, she's like breaking it down. And she's like, you know, you're an next. And then you and then da da da da. They have a pizza on the on the coffee table. Yeah.
01:57:34
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Each slice is different. What? Yes. It's I could not see it. It's like there's like a slice of Supreme, a slice of cheese, a slice of pepperoni.
01:57:44
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That's not how pizza comes. That is so that's so weird. Like art department. What are you doing? What are you thinking? This is just how my brain works. After you've seen this movie five times, you start to notice weird things. Fair enough. Fair enough. Well, Andrew, listen, after your fifth time watching it, what did you rate this movie?
01:58:02
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Well, quinnius quintessentially, I gave it a five. Oh, there you go. This movie knows exactly what it is, and it manages to weave in the heart of family with the wackiness of Final Destination, an RIP Tony Todd. We love you forever.
01:58:16
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I gave it a four and a half, and I said, watching this on the plane, a whole other experience. And look, it's not winning best screenplay anytime soon, but Tony Todd and some gruesome kills make this one a not-so-bad entry in the franchise. Yeah.
01:58:29
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So, folks, that does it for our second film of the episode. We'll be right back to close out the show and have a little game with you. This is what the world will look like in about a decade from now.
01:58:40
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A tech utopia where humans barely have to work. That's according to a group of AI researchers who've written a controversial and influential paper called AI 2027. But they also predict that within five years of this, humanity will be wiped out.
01:58:56
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Well, folks, that does it for episode 155 of the 13th Horror Podcast. But before we go, as always, we've got a little game to play with you that Andrew has cooked up. And today's game is called Terrifying or Just 2025. So, Andrew, tell us how to play the game.
01:59:14
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All right. So I'm going to read you some scenarios. And you have to tell me if they actually happened in 2025 or is it something we just made up to be terrifying? Okay. All right. I thinkll i think I'll do okay at this.
01:59:27
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right, the first one is AI-generated actors starred in commercials and trailers without ever stepping foot on set. That did happen.
01:59:38
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That is real. All right, my next one. Multiple musicians publicly accused AI of copying their voices and styles without consent. I'd say that that's real too.
01:59:49
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That is real. Next one. A dating app introduced a feature that scores you on your quote-unquote emotional availability. Um, but I, you know, ah ah I don't know. I, I'm going to say that it's real and it's probably not. And if it, and if it is, I want to know what dating app that is.
02:00:09
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It is made up, but coming soon to your dating app soon. I'm sure. That's interesting. All right. Um, the next one, a horror movie marketed itself as algorithm proof because AI couldn't predict the audience's reaction.
02:00:22
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Oh, I, I have not heard this. I'm going to say that that didn't happen. It's made up. Okay. ah a streaming service quiet A streaming service quietly removed entire shows and instead of renewing licenses without warning.
02:00:36
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That did happen. that's That's real. Let's see here. People discovered AI chat tools remembered personal details they never explicitly shared.
02:00:48
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That did happen. That's real. um Major tech companies rolled out AI, quote unquote, companions meant to simulate friendship or support. It did happen.
02:01:01
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An influencer issued an apology video for backlash that hadn't happened yet. That didn't happen? That's made up. That would have been interesting though, wouldn't it? My God. Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if there are people that just have ah like apology videos ready in their back catalog. Seriously, just in case. Crisis mode.
02:01:23
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All right. um Horror fans intentionally boosted a movie online because it was labeled, quote unquote, too disturbing for modern audiences. I don't, I don't know. I'm going to say it didn't happen.
02:01:34
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That was real. Well, what was it? I don't know. I don't have the backup on that. I want to find out more talk about that one. And finally, a smart home device sent users, quote unquote, emotion alerts based on voice tone.
02:01:50
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That is not real. It's not real, but I'm not surprised if it doesn't happen soon. Oh, that'll be on the way for sure. Well, Andrew, yet another great game. Thank you for that. And folks, listen, um as you as you listen to this, it is, you know, Christmas is over now. Hanukkah is over. your year It's just about to be New Year's. And we're really happy that you've ah you've taken the time to listen to our take on the year ah that we've just gone through.
02:02:18
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