Introduction and Banter
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DeeBo
Hello, you are listening to the all-new Anti-Fanboy Podcast for the week of July 28th, 2025. Hi, how you doing? I saw a lot of things today.
00:00:11
DeeBo
I sat, not today, but the whole week, the whole week, the whole week.
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SuperDong
what did you see, Devin? What have you seen?
00:00:16
DeeBo
I've seen it. Do you see? I've seen quite a lot. You know who's also seen a little too much? Chris Galani.
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SuperDong
Yeah, you're right.
00:00:25
DeeBo
You know who's seen even more than a human should comprehend? Steve O'Tiri.
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Steve-O
I have seen all of time, all of existence, the future, the past,
Debate on Christopher Nolan Films
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SuperDong
Boring. Ha ha ha ha
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DeeBo
And somebody who just hasn't seen enough of me, if I'm being honest, this John Suarez!
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DeeBo
You need to see more of this.
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DeeBo
i don't know why I went there.
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DeeBo
just wanted to make somebody uncomfortable and I made myself uncomfortable.
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meatrichards
Chris, this the perfect this is the perfect ah time for you to do a Galanian Chill next year leading up to the Odyssey.
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SuperDong
You want me watch Christopher Nolan movies?
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meatrichards
if you want to if you want to If you want to spend like in a month,
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meatrichards
ah they're doing a they're rereleasing a Christopher Nolan films in IMAX. Oh, no, that's next month.
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SuperDong
Whoa. It's well, Interstellar Inception. noah No Memento.
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SuperDong
No Memento! No. ah What's the other one with Al Pacino? Oh my lord.
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SuperDong
Insomnia. No Insomnia?
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meatrichards
Mmm, insomnia.
00:01:43
Steve-O
Wow, somebody's really quick to just wipe out the beginning of his own career.
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SuperDong
What about Following? that That movie's really good. You should put that one on that list.
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meatrichards
So which ones would you take out? So we got Interstellar, Inception, Batman Begins, Dark Knight, Dark Knight Rises, Oppenheimer, Dunkirk, Tenet.
00:01:58
Steve-O
can get rid of the Rises.
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meatrichards
Which ones would you take out?
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SuperDong
Put Rises out. Put Memento in. Come on. Easy.
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DeeBo
I'd remove it is tenants not on that list. Is it drop that?
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meatrichards
Tenet is on the list. Remove Tenet and put Trainspotting.
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DeeBo
You put literally anything else in there.
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meatrichards
Let's watch Trainspotting.
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SuperDong
Oh, get rid of Dunkirk, too. Put in following.
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DeeBo
Dunkirk, you could I could pass on Dunkirk.
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SuperDong
Get rid of Tenet. Put in insomnia. Easy.
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meatrichards
Man of Steel. He produced that movie, right?
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Steve-O
Do you need Batman Begins even?
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meatrichards
Man of Steel.
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SuperDong
Yeah. Yeah, like that.
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DeeBo
Yeah, yeah. Batman Begins is better than I think people...
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SuperDong
The beginning of it.
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meatrichards
Yeah, Joffrey's in it.
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Steve-O
yeah I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying like, you know, if we have to like.
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meatrichards
Yeah, do you need... Yeah, do you need it? Yeah, you might not need it, is what...
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Steve-O
A highlight of the Batman career was the Dark Knight.
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meatrichards
Yeah, like, you just have the Dark Knight, and that's it. That's all you need.
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SuperDong
I like that. i think I think. I would like to see Batman.
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meatrichards
i want to walk I want to watch Interstellar again, though, because I heard it's like
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SuperDong
ends that i You got to remember. These are IMAX too. I guess that's
Danny Boyle's Sequel Discussion
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SuperDong
why they're not.
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Steve-O
Oh yeah, you want to see it on the big screen.
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SuperDong
yeah Yeah. That's why they're not. Putting Memento. In it, and Insomnia. I mean, if you just want to see giant Al Pacino head, you...
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DeeBo
Why would you say it like that?
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meatrichards
What about the other, what's that other movie he did?
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SuperDong
Memento! Following?
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meatrichards
With Tesla and, um, that, everybody loves that movie too.
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SuperDong
Oh, The Prestige!
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SuperDong
That's right! That
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Steve-O
Oh! I do love that movie.
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SuperDong
movie is great, yeah.
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Steve-O
I can't believe we forgot about that.
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SuperDong
Me too, I'm kind of shocked.
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Steve-O
Get rid of Batman Begins. Put that in.
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meatrichards
Dude, the more I think about Inception, the i think the less I like it. I don't know.
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SuperDong
I like Inception. I really like it. I think it's...
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meatrichards
i haven't seen I haven't seen it in forever, but like every time I see something,
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SuperDong
I watched it. It was on HBO, and i I watched it on cable.
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meatrichards
you watch it it's still good?
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SuperDong
Yeah, I really dug it. I was, like, invested the entire time.
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meatrichards
i Okay. Okay. All right. All right. I believe you. And I didn't like Interstellar the first time I watched it, but I feel like if I watched it now, I probably would have a different perspective on a movie like that.
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SuperDong
I really like it. I'm...
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DeeBo
I just remember even not loving, in her I just remember the music was so goddamn good.
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SuperDong
music is amazing it it kind of now that you brought up Danny Boyle it kind of falls into a Danny Boyle pitfall where the third act he introduces a like a killer villain and it kind of doesn't work 100% like that's Matt Damon in Inception and weird Sun Man in Sunshine I don't know who that was Sun Man let's call Sun Man um yeah
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meatrichards
That's his best. That's his best.
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Steve-O
Yeah, the music's good.
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meatrichards
That's Hans Zimmer's best, right?
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Steve-O
It's me, the sun!
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meatrichards
And ah and the and the million the millionaire host, Slumdog Millionaire, right?
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SuperDong
They just don't work.
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SuperDong
That's kind of silly.
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meatrichards
He's trying to kill him the whole thought He's not trying to kill him the whole time.
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SuperDong
I think Dan Boyle. If
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meatrichards
I do love Slumdog Millionaire, too. I haven't watched that in a while, either. But I remember really enjoying it when it came out.
00:04:53
meatrichards
Yeah, when are you doing Danny Boyle?
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meatrichards
When 28 years later, 2 comes out?
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meatrichards
Because that's January, right?
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DeeBo
Is that Danny Boyle? that I thought somebody else was doing that one.
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SuperDong
Yeah, it's a different director.
Sherlock Holmes Adaptations
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DeeBo
what What do you want, man? He's one man.
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SuperDong
It's the director...
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meatrichards
Well, um but danny Danny Boyle did Trainspotting 2. It's not like they fucking gave that to some rando, you know?
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SuperDong
i If I remember correctly, it's the director of the Candyman remake, which I actually kind of liked. I'm not going to lie.
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meatrichards
i mean you I mean, that is your cup of tea, Chris, just to be just to be transparent.
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SuperDong
Yeah. I mean... Jordan Peele produced that and he, he gave her that movie as like a leg up, you know?
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meatrichards
you know Okay.
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SuperDong
So I, I, I liked it.
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meatrichards
so i mean I mean, I didn't watch 28 years later, but from what I've heard, like how would you how would you not want to watch the sequel when it comes out anyway?
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SuperDong
I mean, I'm just so flabbergasted by the way it ended, I guess.
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meatrichards
You have see it, right? You have to.
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SuperDong
I'm like, however I felt about the first one, I guess it's now interesting to see like a fresh start to fresh take in that regard. Like this could be something really good.
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meatrichards
i'm still too I'm still too scared to watch the Trainspotting 2 movie, though. I still haven't seen it.
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SuperDong
Yeah, that one is that's a horse of a different color. I think is there like a second book? I don't think there is right.
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meatrichards
It's called Porno.
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meatrichards
It's based off of that. And it really is like... Wow, I just typed porno in Google.
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meatrichards
ah Didn't come out.
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meatrichards
Here, let me... Porno, Irving, Irving, and Welsh.
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SuperDong
I should read that. i only read Trainspotting.
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meatrichards
Yeah, it's ah it's it's a direct sequel. It's just like the direct sequel. Same thing. Fucking...
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SuperDong
They adapted that for Trainspotting too, right?
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meatrichards
Yeah, and from what I've read, like Boyle really didn't want to do this, but he wanted wait until the the characters were of age, the actors were of age, and that's I guess that's when he did it.
00:06:53
SuperDong
Oh. ah maybe that's Maybe that's interesting, man. I didn't know there was that much intent involved.
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DeeBo
Yeah. But I think i think Danny Boyles, he did 28 years and the other guy's doing the second one and then he's doing the third one, I think.
00:07:07
meatrichards
There's a third 28 years later trilogy?
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DeeBo
Yeah. That's why I was so confused.
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SuperDong
It's going to be three movies.
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meatrichards
Is that coming out next year too? it like fucking Matrix? There two sequels in one year?
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meatrichards
Like the Matrix?
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SuperDong
Maybe. That'd be cool.
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meatrichards
Wait, so Chris, have you seen Trainspotting 2 or no?
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SuperDong
That'd be No, I haven't. I haven't watched it.
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meatrichards
Okay. Maybe we can watch that together then.
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DeeBo
I have it i have it on ah on a hard drive just waiting.
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meatrichards
Maybe we should watch it together then. Because I feel like I need
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SuperDong
It's going to be so hard, man.
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meatrichards
I'm like, I'm like Pedro Pascal. I have anxiety about this movie and i I'll need to touch you whole time.
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SuperDong
You know, there...
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meatrichards
I'll need to jack, I'll need to jack you off the whole time while, while watching it.
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DeeBo
Somebody stroke me.
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meatrichards
Cause I have anxiety about it.
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SuperDong
It's... got There's...
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meatrichards
I'm scared. I'm scared to watch it, Chris, but it got good reviews.
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SuperDong
The first movie is kind of is kind of raw, and that's, you know, he didn't really have...
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meatrichards
The first movie is a, is a literal, it's a literal masterpiece. The first movie, the fucking masterpiece.
00:08:00
SuperDong
Yeah, and, like, that's... It being kind of raw makes it better, like... it And I just can't imagine him being more polished, making a better movie than that at that time. You know what i mean? Like, it's a perfect time, perfect place type of movie.
00:08:11
meatrichards
They got good reviews though, Chris.
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meatrichards
Everybody's in it. Johnny Lee Miller's then in it still. He's sick boy still.
Analysis of Ari Aster's Films
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meatrichards
i mean, they're all in it. Robert Carlyle's back as a Megby too.
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DeeBo
All the greats, Chris.
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meatrichards
all Everybody.
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SuperDong
They are the greats.
00:08:26
meatrichards
but The goats. The fucking Trace running goats.
00:08:28
Steve-O
Everyone is back.
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SuperDong
Every scumbag you could think of in Trainspotting is back.
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meatrichards
how long How long is this? oh it's It's less than two hours. We could probably do a double feature one day. and we'll do We should do that, Chris.
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SuperDong
I can watch Trainspotting any day of the week, any time.
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DeeBo
Yeah, twist my arm, dude.
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meatrichards
i love... That's my favorite... It's my like literally my favorite movie ever, I think. That movie. Which is why I haven't seen... It's been eight years I haven't seen the sequel. Because I'm afraid to watch
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SuperDong
Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. i think it's still his best movie, too.
00:09:00
meatrichards
it. Yeah, it's hard to argue. I mean, 28 Days Later, you could you can make an argument, probably.
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SuperDong
Nah, I don't think so.
00:09:05
meatrichards
But I wouldn't say...
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SuperDong
I don't think so.
00:09:08
meatrichards
A lot of people glazed 127 hours, but wasn't impressed with that movie when I saw it.
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SuperDong
Definitely not his best.
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DeeBo
Has anyone seen Life of Pi?
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DeeBo
i haven't seen that
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meatrichards
Was that his? Him? He did that?
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DeeBo
I thought so. Did I make that up? Maybe I made that up.
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meatrichards
I think you made that up.
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SuperDong
Maybe you just want pie.
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meatrichards
Maybe i'll just type porn I'll just type porn back in.
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DeeBo
Yeah, type in porn Life of Porn and see.
00:09:30
Steve-O
ah that was Ang Lee.
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DeeBo
Oh, what did I know?
00:09:33
meatrichards
Oh, Ang Lee. That was probably good.
00:09:34
DeeBo
Yeah, I was way off.
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meatrichards
that was a good movie.
00:09:39
DeeBo
I mean, you say you say that.
00:09:40
meatrichards
Hang on his blood, right?
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SuperDong
I want to watch every Danny Boyle movie again. And the ones I haven't seen. Maybe that that's a good one. That is a good one.
00:09:49
meatrichards
Even yesterday?
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meatrichards
I really want to watch...
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SuperDong
I would give it a shot.
00:09:53
meatrichards
Dude, I really want to watch Shallow Grave again. was, like, describing it to Sam the other day, and I was just like...
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SuperDong
That's one I haven't seen more than once.
00:09:59
meatrichards
I was like... I was like, dude... I'm, like, listening myself describe it to her, and I'm like, this... This was a really good movie. I remember it really liking it, so... But maybe maybe that's like even more raw than Trainspotting to the point where it might be might not have aged as well.
00:10:16
meatrichards
Technologically.
00:10:16
SuperDong
Sometimes that adds to it.
00:10:18
meatrichards
But sometimes that shit rules, yeah.
00:10:20
meatrichards
When it's aged like that. That movie is fucking crazy, though. Like...
00:10:25
Steve-O
He did the um the good Steve Jobs documentary too, didn't he?
00:10:29
meatrichards
Yeah, that's what we were talking about on the Discord.
00:10:29
SuperDong
The biopic? Hell yeah, dude.
00:10:31
DeeBo
Were either of them particularly good?
00:10:32
SuperDong
I love that movie.
00:10:33
DeeBo
I remember hearing that they were both kind of the...
00:10:39
Steve-O
The Danny Boyle one is interesting. I like how it's not like, a oh, let let's follow his entire life. It's just following like pivotal moments in his life.
00:10:44
meatrichards
it's like, yeah. Yeah, that's what Chris was saying, yeah.
00:10:48
SuperDong
The big moment, right?
00:10:48
meatrichards
But it's also like, why why even, like, it just feels weird that Danny Boyle would do a biopic. You know, that's just, it feels weird.
00:10:55
SuperDong
I don't know. Dude, if Aaron Sorkin came to you with a script and he was like, you should make this, it would it would work. I would do it.
00:11:02
DeeBo
You know, it's funny though, because I feel like I've seen the best scene in that movie a thousand times because like I always get the clip of, you know, him and um the other guy arguing about like the Apple II or whatever.
00:11:11
SuperDong
Jeff Daniels. Yeah, dude, that clip is amazing.
00:11:14
DeeBo
It's awesome. But like, I'm like, if this is the only thing I'm seeing all the time.
00:11:19
SuperDong
No. there's some really good like back and forth between him and believe or not, Seth Rogen who plays, uh,
00:11:24
DeeBo
Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, him and Seth Rogen are just like yelling at each other.
00:11:30
SuperDong
that's really good. The Jeff Daniels argument is there are a lot of arguments in that movie. He's always like defending how, how shitty he is.
Personal Story and Snyder Cut Encounter
00:11:40
SuperDong
ah And it's, um, and it,
00:11:41
DeeBo
I respect that. I don't see a problem with that.
00:11:43
SuperDong
Yeah. Like that's the whole movie. It's the whole movie. That's all the movie. He's even doing it with his daughter. Like he's trying to defend how terrible he is because of what he's made and what he's done.
00:11:57
DeeBo
I'm not that bad of a guy.
00:12:00
DeeBo
It's the whole movie.
00:12:01
DeeBo
What are you so mad at me for?
00:12:01
SuperDong
Even though he's like.
00:12:03
SuperDong
We didn't name the computer after you. We just thought it sounded good. Like when he said that to his own daughter, that's kind of fucked, right?
00:12:08
meatrichards
Dude, this is...
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SuperDong
Why would you say that to your daughter?
00:12:12
DeeBo
Yeah, that's pretty fucking rude.
00:12:15
SuperDong
Oh my Lord. That's a good movie. That's a good movie.
00:12:19
Steve-O
He also did the ah that Frankenstein, that staged Frankenstein, right?
00:12:23
meatrichards
We did watch that.
00:12:23
DeeBo
Oh, I've never seen that.
00:12:24
meatrichards
Or I watched it.
00:12:26
meatrichards
I watch i watched both i watched both both nights.
00:12:27
Steve-O
Which version? Oh.
00:12:29
SuperDong
I watched both too.
00:12:29
DeeBo
John, did you feel like the only guy ordering a salad at the table when you saw that? You're like, oh, yeah, oh, I watched it.
00:12:36
SuperDong
I, John, I preferred Benedict Cumberbatch as the monster.
00:12:39
meatrichards
i prefer I preferred him as the monster, too, yeah.
00:12:41
SuperDong
He was wonderful.
00:12:42
meatrichards
i mean, they're both... Like, Johnny Lee Miller is actually really good actor.
00:12:46
SuperDong
He was, but I thought he was a better Dr.
00:12:48
meatrichards
He was about a better Doctor Franksline, for sure.
00:12:52
DeeBo
Yeah, Steve, what did you think?
00:12:53
meatrichards
<unk>s Who's a better Sherlock? Who's a better Sherlock, then?
00:12:56
Steve-O
I never got to watch it. I wanted to though.
00:12:57
DeeBo
I didn't say it. I knew better.
00:13:00
SuperDong
You knew better?
00:13:00
meatrichards
Who did I... Oh, I...
00:13:01
SuperDong
What the fuck is that?
00:13:01
Steve-O
Maybe he knew better. but
00:13:03
DeeBo
ah but I'm not going to waste my time with this filth.
00:13:05
meatrichards
Yeah, I think me...
00:13:05
Steve-O
Devin just didn't want to have an argument for the rest of his life over which was the better Frankenstein.
00:13:11
meatrichards
Yeah, me me and Shiavo were, like, obsessed with um Sherlock at the time. So when that came out, we were like, we gotta watch both. So we watched both.
00:13:18
DeeBo
Oh, yeah, that's right, because, John, you watched that that Sherlock show.
00:13:22
DeeBo
Like, not the Cumberbatch one.
00:13:25
DeeBo
You watch yeah watched...
00:13:25
meatrichards
What, Elementary?
00:13:26
meatrichards
No, I never watched that fucking trash.
00:13:28
meatrichards
I never watched that.
00:13:29
meatrichards
No, I didn't!
00:13:29
DeeBo
That's... That's Cap, dude.
00:13:31
meatrichards
Break out the receipts, Steve! Come on, Steve, break them out!
00:13:33
Steve-O
but Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:13:34
meatrichards
Did I watch it?
00:13:36
SuperDong
Did he watch it?
00:13:37
SuperDong
You got the receipts.
00:13:38
DeeBo
Dude, I remember specifically John talking about watching Elementary.
00:13:38
meatrichards
Devin's saying that I watched...
00:13:41
SuperDong
Devin? he Yeah, he thinks he watched the show elementary.
00:13:43
DeeBo
Yeah, remember that?
00:13:44
meatrichards
I didn't watch Elementary.
00:13:44
DeeBo
Remember all the stories John would talk about? Fucking hell...
00:13:47
meatrichards
No, I was like a snob. No, I was snobbed. i snobbed out about it because I didn't. I thought the idea of the United States doing a version of Sherlock just was stupid to me.
00:13:57
DeeBo
Because you were telling me. You're like, oh, it's actually kind of cool because he's like an alcoholic.
00:14:00
meatrichards
I never. That was not me.
00:14:01
DeeBo
I swear to God, why would I know that?
00:14:02
meatrichards
I never did that.
00:14:04
DeeBo
and only know that because you told me that.
00:14:04
SuperDong
would he know it?
00:14:05
meatrichards
Because you make because you're a fucking delusional and you make shit up in your head.
00:14:08
meatrichards
That's why you would think that.
00:14:09
Steve-O
Hold on. we have to We have to go through all our episodes.
00:14:11
SuperDong
You guys remember that?
00:14:12
SuperDong
well Well, John, do you?
00:14:13
meatrichards
Go ahead. Do it.
00:14:14
DeeBo
Where's the episode titled, Love Sherlock in Elementary by John Suarez?
00:14:14
SuperDong
This will be, this will be, way wait, wait, wait.
00:14:17
SuperDong
This will be a good test. This will be a good test to whether John watched it. John, do you remember who Watson was elementary?
00:14:22
meatrichards
Yeah, it was Lucy Liu, and that's why I didn't like it.
00:14:26
meatrichards
I didn't want to see it because they were i read that they I read that she was a love interest for Sherlock, and I thought that was stupid.
00:14:33
DeeBo
So you had to watch it to find out how bad they ruined it, right?
00:14:38
Steve-O
I don't, i okay, I don't think we ever talked about it on a previous podcast.
00:14:42
meatrichards
Yeah, because I never watched
00:14:42
SuperDong
I think you brought it up passingly.
00:14:44
SuperDong
I think you did bring it up, but I can't attest to whether or not you watched it.
00:14:47
meatrichards
I don't remember.
00:14:48
SuperDong
There's no evidence. either way
00:14:49
meatrichards
I may have brought it up to shit on it because i've not and not watch it because I don't remember watching it at all.
00:14:54
SuperDong
I think I might have even brought it up once, actually.
00:14:57
meatrichards
Maybe you watched it, Chris.
00:14:59
Steve-O
i don't I don't think
Discussion on 'Eddington' Themes
00:15:00
Steve-O
we've watched Elementary.
00:15:01
Steve-O
I think we watched that. What was the one with um Iron Man?
00:15:05
Steve-O
ah Fucking Robert Downey Jr.
00:15:06
DeeBo
ah did Sherlock Sherlock Holmes I think discombobulate
00:15:07
meatrichards
Sherlock Holmes.
00:15:08
Steve-O
Yeah. I think we watched that.
00:15:10
SuperDong
Oh, the movies?
00:15:12
SuperDong
The Sherlock Holmes movies?
00:15:12
meatrichards
I mean, maybe maybe I will. I'm more open to shit like that now than I was back when I was a fucking mega snob.
00:15:18
DeeBo
wait which shit but like which shit specifically okay you know if this is you this is you just trying to cover up the oh yeah I'll watch you and then and then when you was suspiciously know all the details
00:15:19
meatrichards
So maybe I will watch it. I don't know. I mean, it is Johnny Lee Miller. It is fucking goaded Johnny Lee Miller. I'll cover up what? You know what I'm saying? I'll be more open to it now. Back then I was a piece of shit. That's why I wouldn't watch it then because I was a piece of shit.
00:15:35
meatrichards
I'm not open to that shit anymore. Man, there were seven seasons of this show.
00:15:40
DeeBo
ah yeah Yeah, you would know, wouldn't you, super fan?
00:15:44
meatrichards
I'm reading about it right now!
00:15:47
meatrichards
him I wouldn't even...
00:15:48
meatrichards
Yeah, they were dude. Seven seasons, 24 episodes each.
00:15:52
meatrichards
Which is wild.
00:15:53
meatrichards
Alright, here.
00:15:53
DeeBo
Yeah, the good old days.
00:15:56
SuperDong
Putting up Jack Bauer numbers.
00:16:00
meatrichards
Here, I'll read the plot to you, Chris. Oh, shit. Following his fall from grace in London and a stint in drug rehabilitation, a modern-day version of Sherlock Holmes relocates to Manhattan where his wealthy father forces him to live with a sober companion, Dr. Joan Watson.
00:16:18
meatrichards
Formerly a successful surgeon until she lost a patient, Watson views her current job as another opportunity to help people.
00:16:25
SuperDong
There's not even close to Watson is in the book.
00:16:28
meatrichards
I know, it's gross, dude. That's what I'm saying.
00:16:30
DeeBo
Truthfully, like truthfully, I think, John, you may have watched the pilot.
00:16:35
meatrichards
Maybe I did. Maybe I did. just to Maybe it was like a Brian Michael Bendis Daredevil thing.
00:16:38
DeeBo
Just to, yeah, just so you could shit on it. Yeah.
00:16:41
meatrichards
Yeah, and I didn't continue.
00:16:41
SuperDong
I imagine it was after the Super Bowl or something.
00:16:44
meatrichards
Yeah, but you were you were at you were you were trying to out me as like a fucking fan of this show, and I wasn't.
00:16:49
SuperDong
Devin watched Tracker. He watched the entire show.
00:16:51
DeeBo
I watched the first episode of the Track.
00:16:53
meatrichards
devyn read Devin read the entire devyn read the entire run of Trinity, so that shit doesn't...
00:16:53
DeeBo
I watched that with Chris.
00:16:53
SuperDong
No, no, Devin, you watched everything.
00:16:55
SuperDong
Cat, Cat, you watched it all. Oh,
00:17:01
Steve-O
That's true. When Devin was in his sicko days.
00:17:02
DeeBo
Yo, can I tell you, can I tell you, I was actually reading just an absolute terrible book.
00:17:06
meatrichards
He's still in his sicko days.
00:17:10
DeeBo
And I just like, I'll just finish it. It's, uh, it's called Batman and the Joker.
00:17:17
DeeBo
Written and drawn by Mark Silvestri.
00:17:18
meatrichards
why did why you Why do you do this?
00:17:21
DeeBo
Uh, no, I was just like, you know what, let me just fuck.
00:17:21
meatrichards
Is it because he did it?
00:17:22
meatrichards
The spawn artist did it?
00:17:24
DeeBo
Cause like, I think whatever model of the DC app I have, I don't have the one that Chris has where like, I think I have the 60 day instead the 30 day. Cause we're at Chris we're like, Oh, I read the absolute Batman issue and this and that.
00:17:36
Steve-O
Oh, you got the brokey version.
00:17:38
DeeBo
And I'm like, that's not available to me. so let me just read.
00:17:41
DeeBo
I'll just read this. I'll just read this instead. And then I was like, this is so bad and wordy, but fuck it. And I don't know why I've just been chewing through it.
00:17:52
DeeBo
And I'm like, I don't know, dude.
00:17:52
Steve-O
Why do you do that?
00:17:53
meatrichards
yeah know Yeah, why do you do this?
00:17:54
Steve-O
You've always been just able to just...
00:17:56
DeeBo
I should just drop it. should just drop it. It's not.
00:17:56
meatrichards
Why do you do this, dude?
00:17:59
DeeBo
Well, now I'm like more than halfway done.
00:17:59
meatrichards
Yeah, I'm looking it up now.
00:18:01
SuperDong
So wait, Devin. You don't have access to the new Absolute Wonder Woman issue?
00:18:07
meatrichards
Yeah, dude, I was thinking about it Chris. 30 days after publication, print date is like actually pretty soon. Think about it for digital.
00:18:14
Steve-O
That's really quick.
00:18:15
Steve-O
That's really, really quick.
00:18:16
DeeBo
Like, yeah, I don't think I have the premium.
00:18:18
DeeBo
I think I just have like the basic,
Horror Directors: Aster vs. Eggers
00:18:20
SuperDong
I read the new issue today.
00:18:22
SuperDong
That was... That was fucking great, dude.
00:18:24
DeeBo
Yeah, I have no way. This is keep playing. Yeah.
00:18:29
Steve-O
You're supposed to have the ultra version. The ultra version lets you do all the nasty shit.
00:18:32
DeeBo
Let me see what on dude I'll be honest.
00:18:32
SuperDong
Oh, I have Ultra.
00:18:33
meatrichards
Yeah, Ultra. i have Ultra.
00:18:36
meatrichards
Yeah, let me see. about Absolute Batman. How many issues did have?
00:18:38
DeeBo
I am not really fan of like the the layout, the UI on this is it's not great because like if I like if I could just stop an issue
00:18:44
SuperDong
Yeah, it's pretty bad. I'll give you that.
00:18:50
DeeBo
it won't just be like, Oh, pick up where you left off. Like I have to like fucking manually search for it.
00:18:54
SuperDong
Yes. Stinks, doesn't it
00:18:57
Steve-O
That's kind of weird that it doesn't bookmark.
00:18:57
DeeBo
Yeah. I I'm like, not to beat that guy, but the Marvel app is a little bit better in that regards.
00:19:04
SuperDong
no No, no, Like, that's why i always feel the impetus to finish whatever issue I'm reading. Like, just finish it all out because it won't leave...
00:19:09
DeeBo
yeah, I've only wait. So absolute Batman. worked, I know this is not fun to listen to.
00:19:18
meatrichards
Six. So we're on nine.
00:19:19
DeeBo
I'm on absolute Batman nine. Yeah.
00:19:21
meatrichards
Yeah, I'm on nine too.
00:19:23
SuperDong
So, I'm on Absolute Wonder Woman 9. I'm on Absolute Martian Manhunter just came out, number 4.
00:19:31
SuperDong
I'm on Absolute Batman number 10. ten
00:19:33
DeeBo
We see. Oh yeah. Like what fucking model are you on?
00:19:37
SuperDong
I think there's 10 issues.
00:19:39
meatrichards
No, there's nine. There's nine.
00:19:40
SuperDong
Nine. Nine. Yeah, because that other one is a...
00:19:42
SuperDong
ah That's a variant cover one. Or it's in black and white.
00:19:44
Steve-O
I was about to say Chris got that chris got that experimental shit.
00:19:45
SuperDong
It's in black and white. Yeah, yeah
00:19:45
DeeBo
first has me Chris has me on film, dude.
00:19:47
meatrichards
Yeah, Chris got the fucking James Gunn. He's on James Gunn's account.
00:19:53
SuperDong
I'm really excited for the next issue. Absolute Batman, man. I'm pumped as shit.
00:19:57
DeeBo
I know. I'm very excited to read that.
00:19:59
DeeBo
Yeah, I'm on issue eight of Absinthe. Anyway, anyway.
00:20:04
meatrichards
Yeah, and what are we talking to about first?
00:20:05
DeeBo
So we watched some stuff. I mean, I was gloating, I dare say, gloating.
00:20:10
SuperDong
You watched everything, right?
00:20:11
Steve-O
You watched everything you said, Devin.
00:20:13
SuperDong
You Ozymandias this week, right?
00:20:18
meatrichards
i watched I watched There Will Be Blood last night.
00:20:20
meatrichards
Can talk about that?
00:20:21
DeeBo
You want to watch it?
00:20:22
meatrichards
It was a really good movie still.
00:20:24
DeeBo
Yeah. doesn't hold up.
00:20:24
meatrichards
It's still a masterpiece.
00:20:25
SuperDong
Bastard in a basket!
00:20:26
meatrichards
It holds up. It holds up hard.
00:20:27
SuperDong
Bastard in basket! Love that scene.
00:20:30
DeeBo
You know, I watched.
00:20:31
meatrichards
I got Owen saying, I'll drink your milkshake.
00:20:33
DeeBo
Oh, that's pretty sick.
00:20:33
SuperDong
Heh heh heh heh.
00:20:33
meatrichards
yeah I got him saying it now. I'm like, you got say this to all the kids in class.
00:20:38
meatrichards
That's what got to say.
00:20:38
Steve-O
Go say this to Uncle Galani.
00:20:41
DeeBo
You don't drink my go. Fuck you.
00:20:43
SuperDong
no it's my milkshake you don't get it
00:20:45
Steve-O
but boy That's mine! That's mine!
00:20:47
DeeBo
i I watched another 90s thriller. I watched No, it's not...
00:20:53
meatrichards
Ooh. Ooh. What we got?
00:20:55
SuperDong
was it a sexual thriller from the ninety s yeah that's what I was thinking basic instinct
00:20:56
meatrichards
What do we got? What we got?
00:20:58
Steve-O
Yeah, what kind of thriller were you watching?
00:20:59
meatrichards
Happy Gilmore 1.
00:20:59
Steve-O
Were you watching Barbed Wire starring Pamela Anderson?
00:21:03
DeeBo
you know what? No, no noll i'll give you I'll give you some details.
00:21:08
meatrichards
Oh, yeah. we have to we have to ah We have to guess what it is.
00:21:11
Steve-O
Okay, 95. 95. ninety five
00:21:12
DeeBo
Sigourney Weaver. Holly Hunt.
00:21:17
SuperDong
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
00:21:19
meatrichards
Yo, why would you give him all that and not expect him to get it right away? i don't understand.
00:21:23
SuperDong
Submit. Submit.
00:21:26
meatrichards
Was it good?
00:21:27
meatrichards
Did you like it?
00:21:27
DeeBo
I was digging it. ah Yeah, it kind of, you know, ah by the end of it, I was like, ah this is probably why I haven't like heard about this too much. But you know what?
00:21:38
DeeBo
You know what I kind of love? I love the little Netflix preview thing that they do. You know, where it just starts playing a clip.
00:21:47
DeeBo
because the clip comes on and I'm like,
00:21:47
Steve-O
Like in the little box.
00:21:50
SuperDong
It's Harry Connick Jr. Pump jumping out of her in the bathroom, right?
00:21:53
DeeBo
yeah. And I'm like, this is pretty fucking interesting.
00:21:54
Steve-O
Jumping out of her.
00:21:55
SuperDong
Jumping out of her, yes. It's an alien sequel.
00:21:57
DeeBo
Um, yeah. So it's a psychological thriller. Uh, basically there's a guy that keeps copying, uh, famous serial killers as he's killing people.
00:22:08
DeeBo
And, uh, I don't know. It's, it was fun.
00:22:11
Steve-O
and sounds like a fun little jaunt.
00:22:12
DeeBo
Yeah. It was a fun little jaunt.
00:22:15
SuperDong
You know, what I remember of it, I do remember it being really long,
00:22:19
SuperDong
Is that still true?
00:22:20
DeeBo
It's, I think it was, but it might not. It might've been long for a 90, a 95 movie, you know?
00:22:29
Steve-O
Two hours and three minutes.
00:22:30
DeeBo
That's, that's, that's pretty long.
00:22:31
SuperDong
Never mind. That's pretty exciting.
00:22:32
DeeBo
Now that's long for.
00:22:33
Steve-O
but like For 95, that was long.
00:22:35
SuperDong
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:36
DeeBo
Yeah. And it feels long. Cause I remember like, and anyway, ah I saw that pretty good. I saw another movie called Cobweb. Not 2023 horror film, surprisingly effective.
00:22:55
DeeBo
ah It's kind of, it plays with genres a little bit, you know, it kind of keeps you guessing. It definitely ends on like a, a what type of note. Like it, like just, it's almost like he, they ran out of ideas or money or both things.
00:23:12
DeeBo
But it just kind of like ends in a very unsatisfying way. But that I don't think that takes away from the enjoyment of the movie. That has Anthony Starr. It has Liza Cappanelli?
00:23:28
DeeBo
yeah The woman from um um Party Down. Her. And Anthony Starr. And he plays and yeah Homelander himself.
00:23:41
SuperDong
The Homelander?
00:23:42
DeeBo
And it's it's funny, though, because he plays he plays the father.
00:23:44
meatrichards
The Ohio State?
00:23:47
DeeBo
And I'm not going to give too many details away, but Anthony Starr definitely it was just like, oh so you just want me to act like Homeland. Like, he's just, like, in a sweater. It's, like, takes place in, like, you know, modern day.
00:24:01
DeeBo
And he's, like, makes his son go out into the ah shed to, like, get rat poison because they have rats. And he's doing the Homelander thing where he's just standing in the hall in the doorway, like, with his hands behind his back.
00:24:14
DeeBo
Like, he's, you know, in the Homelander outfit. And I'm like, bro, did no one tell you to not do that? Like, that is just strange. Like, it's just, he was just there, you know?
00:24:24
DeeBo
Yeah. But no, it was a it was a good movie. It was a fun movie. Like I said, the ending's a little bleh, but i was I was like, hell yeah, exactly.
00:24:24
Steve-O
That's all he knows now.
00:24:37
DeeBo
i also watched Happy Gilmore 2.
00:24:41
Steve-O
Oh, Shooter McGavin was on TV the other day.
00:24:43
DeeBo
You know what? didn't hate it. didn't hate
00:24:48
SuperDong
Oh, that's great.
00:24:49
SuperDong
That sounds lovely.
00:24:50
DeeBo
Um, I will say this. There's one thing that I was just like, they need to like, what is going on? Um, i mean, it's fuck first of all, it's happy. Don't work too. Like, you know what you're getting, but the movie insists on doing mini flashbacks for every callback joke that it does.
00:25:13
DeeBo
So it's like, Hey, you know, and M's in this movie. you're Okay. And they're like, Hey, he plays the guy who says jackass. but his dad's the guy who would say jackass.
00:25:24
DeeBo
And then the movie cuts to the clip of him saying, doing the jackass thing in the first movie. And I was like, why did they do that? And then they do it like seven more times for like every other of those types of gags.
00:25:40
DeeBo
That being said, I still thought it was pretty fun. um
00:25:43
SuperDong
Devin, i may it may not seem like it, but I am dying of laughter right now.
00:25:46
Steve-O
He's go falling to death.
00:25:47
DeeBo
I bet you, you know, Chris,
00:25:47
SuperDong
I am fucking dying right now.
00:25:49
DeeBo
Watch that with your family and don't have a good time.
00:25:55
SuperDong
That made laugh.
00:25:55
DeeBo
I think, i yeah. yeah You'll be like, you know what? Fuck it. You can't be mad about it. And then I watched, well, I finished Squid Games, finally.
00:26:07
Steve-O
i need to I need to get on that. I need to get on that.
00:26:08
DeeBo
You should. You should.
00:26:10
SuperDong
Yeah, that was great. I really, well, it was good.
00:26:11
Steve-O
I've been watching other things.
00:26:13
SuperDong
ah Very good, I would say. I'm
00:26:14
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah, very good.
00:26:16
Steve-O
you got You locked in on very good?
00:26:18
SuperDong
locked in on very good.
00:26:19
DeeBo
Yeah. I'd say it's very good Like it's, I just don't get it outside of people just being little baby brats. Uh, and then, uh, I think we can all, most of us can talk about this other one, Eddington.
00:26:32
DeeBo
It's all, it's all Eddington.
00:26:36
SuperDong
um The movie that's been living rent-free in the old noggin.
00:26:41
meatrichards
I can't stop thinking about it, man.
00:26:43
SuperDong
yeah Wow, what a movie. what ah What an experience. And, you know, it's one of those movies that you you kind of have to sit on for a little bit.
00:26:54
SuperDong
Things start to come to you as you start thinking about it, at least for me. You know, things started to hit me, you know, like the main, the main themes of it, like control being a big theme and losing control is, is really what it's all about in it.
00:27:12
meatrichards
the The thing that comes to my mind is kind of like, this is going to be weird. Maybe this is a post-Superman thing, but like I find myself empathizing with with the the characters a lot, the more the more I think about it.
00:27:26
meatrichards
Yeah, in Eddington. And some of them are pretty...
00:27:28
SuperDong
I think it's easy to.
00:27:30
meatrichards
It's easy to, but like I think that like like you know considering the circumstances of the movie, like it's I feel like I was not empathizing at all with You know, some people that would, you know, again, like, don't want to get into it like too deep. It's not it's not that deep. But like, I feel like I wouldn't empathize with people like this during that time, you know?
00:27:53
SuperDong
No, no. when you When you were stuck in that time, you had the blinders on. And I think that's also what this is about because it seems like everyone has a really narrow vision of what they think is going on right now. What they think reality is, really.
00:28:09
SuperDong
And everybody's idea is different.
00:28:10
meatrichards
And yeah, and none of them none of them are inherently, like, I wouldn't say they're inherently evil, right? Like...
00:28:16
SuperDong
No, no. they They are delusional, though. I do feel like delusion is a big part of this whole movie.
00:28:22
SuperDong
Like, I feel like that's only intensified by like social media and and conspiracy theories and all that other stuff. And I think, i also think people, it says a lot about conspiracy theories.
00:28:33
meatrichards
It's really, it's a really good, like, um...
00:28:38
SuperDong
Like people tend to use that like a, like a crutch, you know, like it defines who they are at sometimes these weird theories and it made for,
00:28:48
SuperDong
what we're dealing with right now. And it's only going to get worse too. I think that's also what this movie is saying. Like this shit is only going to get worse and more divisive. And you got to figure out who's, who's behind it all.
00:29:01
SuperDong
Right? Like that's the big question. Like who's behind the big problem. um That's the enemy. That's the person that we should be angry with, you know?
00:29:14
meatrichards
And you can't really pinpoint one in this movie.
00:29:15
SuperDong
you can't, it's almost, it's like their shadows, you know, like the powerful, but what's really going on. Like I have theories. I think everybody on the internet has theories about what they think is going on at the end of that movie.
00:29:29
SuperDong
But I think that's also part of the idea of film. Like the film itself is manipulating you, you nonstop making you feel upset and angry and, uh, pitiful, you know, like you pity people.
00:29:45
SuperDong
Um, it does a really good job of just showing us how easy it is for us to be manipulated. Everybody.
00:29:53
meatrichards
And yeah, it's really like a, like at its like um purest form, it really is just like a thought experiment of like everybody at their boiling points, I guess, like during the height of of that time, like, which is really like, which is really interesting to think about because, because number one, like he doesn't, I don't want to, don't even want to call it centrist because I don't think it actually is trying to portray a political message.
00:30:19
meatrichards
Cause that, that's like,
00:30:20
SuperDong
Not in the least. That's not what this is about.
00:30:21
meatrichards
Right, and even though even though that is the subject, even though that is the subject of a lot of the themes in the movie, um it's just literally just trying to like you know put a glass box around everybody and and and try to try to let you allow you to observe you know basically what would happen.
00:30:33
SuperDong
Yeah. Politics are are are used in this film. They're not like They're used to their means to an end for what the characters want.
00:30:43
meatrichards
They're not the point, yeah.
00:30:47
SuperDong
And it's never, to me, was never like taking one side or the other because it's saying that everything here, everything that we're experiencing politics, the COVID, guns, you know, social media, all of this stuff, ah like all of it basically is,
00:31:04
meatrichards
Masks is a big one. Masks is a big one.
00:31:11
SuperDong
it's, it's this obfuscated mess and it's just getting less and less controlled and everything's kind of spinning it. The center is losing balance.
00:31:22
SuperDong
You know, they used to say that like if the center falls, everything else falls. This movie is talking about how the center is like teetering, you know, like it's not, nothing is, is there's no terra firma anymore when it comes to anything.
00:31:41
SuperDong
it's a really bleak movie. Uh, it's, it's hard to say you are entertained by it. Like, I don't know if I would use that term. There are funny moments that I thought were funny, but I, I, it wasn't like, I would never say it's an entertaining movie.
00:31:57
SuperDong
If anything, it's like, it's almost like pouring salt on a wound sometimes, you know, like it's, it's incendiary.
00:32:03
meatrichards
and i really I really loved it. really loved this movie.
00:32:07
SuperDong
It's an incendiary movie. And, uh,
00:32:10
SuperDong
I think that's that's good. i think I think, though, i ah have a few issues with it, like, structurally speaking. Actually, more more or less just one.
00:32:22
SuperDong
um I was never...
00:32:23
meatrichards
Was it Emma Stone's arc? Like that whole thing?
00:32:25
SuperDong
In the Stones arc and the and the cult, like, it wasn't really... um There was, like, one scene that was really... Or two really dedicated to it. And it didn't really have much... like plot to it.
00:32:38
SuperDong
Like there wasn't much that was explained about it. It was just sort of this thing.
00:32:42
meatrichards
I mean, yeah, it was... Yeah, but I guess if you remove it, then you don't really have the the catalyst for...
00:32:49
SuperDong
I know, but it's like, it feels like a plot device.
00:32:50
meatrichards
or You know, so it is kind of needed. Right, yeah, yeah, I see what you mean.
00:32:52
SuperDong
It feels like a plot device in that regard.
00:32:54
meatrichards
Yeah, it's kind of just like there for that purpose only.
00:32:56
SuperDong
It wasn't never, that that was like the least substantial aspect of it.
00:33:00
meatrichards
And which is which is nuts, because you have Emma Stone and Austin Butler as the as the the main characters of that of that of that arc, and yeah it's kind of like...
00:33:08
SuperDong
He thinks that they got some scenes cut.
00:33:08
meatrichards
You kind of feel like it's wasted a little bit. Austin Butler is like fucking, he's a hell of actor though. I was like, in I was, yeah.
00:33:15
SuperDong
He's good in the scenes he's in. He's good. and
00:33:17
meatrichards
It's just, a it's just the fact that like his scenes didn't really matter that much, you know?
00:33:20
SuperDong
Not really. It only mattered to one character and it was getting, you know, to her end point, really. And I don't know that that. it is a small issue. I think it is, it's, you know, it's an issue.
00:33:33
SuperDong
I think that could have been ironed out either in editing or in writing and it, and and and it wasn't. um But I do think it's a very good movie. I don't know if I'd say it's a masterpiece.
00:33:44
SuperDong
Like, it I was thinking about this too. Like, it is a movie that is really in my head, but like, is it better than Hereditary or Midsommar?
00:33:56
SuperDong
No, like, I don't think so. And, that's partially on me. That's my bias talking. Cause I like horror movies. Like I, it's hard for me to be impartial in that regard.
00:34:06
SuperDong
um but this is horrifying in a different way. And I think the one thing I like about horror movies is that they kind of, the horror in the movie pulls me out from the horror of reality that I live in.
00:34:19
SuperDong
And that, this movie did not do that. No, it, uh, it firmly planted me in the, in the scary reality that we live in. And that's, You know, maybe that's worse.
00:34:30
SuperDong
Maybe that's the stuff I can't stomach. like You know, really? um says more about me. His movies are Warshak-tosed. In lot of ways, too. I think that's also part of it. People see what they want to see in it.
00:34:43
DeeBo
I mean, I saw some interview with Ari Aster and like, it kind of seemed like he, even he was struggling to explain this movie.
00:34:44
meatrichards
Yeah, but that's...
00:34:53
DeeBo
He was like, it's like the, he's like, he likes to say that Twitter wrote this movie.
00:34:58
DeeBo
And I'm like, okay. But then was like talking.
00:35:00
meatrichards
But he pride he probably doesn't want to... Yeah, he probably doesn't... Because him saying the wrong thing or something slightly wrong could twist could twist the message of the movie.
00:35:09
SuperDong
to be To be perfectly honest, I'm also in the old school of thinking that it's not his job.
00:35:16
SuperDong
It's not his job.
00:35:16
SuperDong
but You know, it's our job to watch it.
00:35:18
meatrichards
it's It's our job to to watch the the guy in the bear suit give that dude head in The Shining.
00:35:25
meatrichards
we're not we're not
00:35:26
meatrichards
It's not Stanley Kubrick's job to explain to us what that meaning is.
00:35:28
Steve-O
explain it Stanley explain it
00:35:31
SuperDong
fuck you. And punched me in the mouth. That's what, and what they should do in my opinion, like, fuck you.
00:35:38
SuperDong
And you're, you don't need an explanation. You, you figure it out. Like that's, that's your job as an audience. So I, I'm, I'm okay with him not being completely clear with what's going on in this.
00:35:50
SuperDong
And I, you know, and I also think this movie is going to age well, like I do really well.
00:35:54
meatrichards
Yeah, that that's what I was going to say. Like, like i was memeing before when I was saying that Bo is afraid we'll we'll watch it 20 years from now and call it a masterpiece.
00:36:02
meatrichards
I think this might actually be, end up being something like that.
00:36:03
SuperDong
Yeah. This is the one. More than...
00:36:06
meatrichards
Because, like, we're we're still kind of we're still kind of fresh off, we're only five years removed from that time.
00:36:11
SuperDong
That's also part of it.
00:36:12
SuperDong
You know, like it's too fresh.
00:36:14
SuperDong
The wound's too too fresh.
00:36:14
meatrichards
It's a little too soon.
00:36:18
SuperDong
i think that factors and know i
00:36:18
meatrichards
like the nine It's like the 9-11 movie coming out on 9-12. You know, like, we don't
00:36:23
SuperDong
a note. Imagine watching this and then Superman or vice versa. Like, they're totally very...
00:36:28
meatrichards
That's the thing, though. It's like, because, like, you you you watch Superman, you're filled with hope, and then you watch something like this, and it kind of sucks all that out of you.
00:36:34
SuperDong
Yeah. It sure does, doesn't it?
00:36:37
meatrichards
and and it's kind of
00:36:39
meatrichards
And it's kind it's kind of it's kind of like, i don't know, maybe maybe that's what made me feel the way I felt about Fantastic Four, because I watched Fantastic Four, like, days after Eddington, so I don't know.
00:36:51
meatrichards
I did like Fantastic Four, but...
00:36:51
SuperDong
Yeah, you feel you were like a little jaded.
00:36:54
meatrichards
Yeah, but I was just like, you know, kind of just rolling my eyes at some point some things.
00:36:58
DeeBo
Well, you want to talk about Fantastic Four?
00:37:02
meatrichards
Solid. 7 out of 10, maybe.
00:37:03
DeeBo
I bought i bought a Herbie.
00:37:04
SuperDong
Eddington is a good set. That's why I will say, go see it.
00:37:08
meatrichards
Yeah, I think it's a good set.
00:37:09
meatrichards
Yeah, I think it's a good set.
00:37:09
SuperDong
It's a really good set.
00:37:09
DeeBo
What? Wait, adding them or.
00:37:12
meatrichards
No, no. I don't think I think it's a...
00:37:14
DeeBo
It's it's it's not a Mary for me.
00:37:17
SuperDong
It's not a marriage.
00:37:17
meatrichards
It might be... It's a long-term engagement for me, I think. I think you ask me 10 years from now, we're getting married.
00:37:21
DeeBo
You might have a fight. You might have a fight. Yeah.
00:37:25
meatrichards
Yeah, I mean, because i that that's the thing. like i want to watch I want to watch it again, Chris. Like, that's...
00:37:29
meatrichards
I feel like... I feel like know like knowing what I...
00:37:31
SuperDong
I think this movie kind of demands it, right?
00:37:33
meatrichards
Right, and I just feel like, you know, some of the technical things in the movie, I think, would be appreciate are appreciated more on a second watch. then and And that stuff's kind of important to me. I'm kind of a weirdo when it comes to that kind of shit.
00:37:42
SuperDong
I watched Bo is Afraid again, and I was still running into the same issue with the second act. Like, the first act is wonderful.
00:37:47
meatrichards
Okay. But did you but did you did you like it more the second time than you watched it the first time?
00:37:53
SuperDong
I like the end more.
00:37:55
meatrichards
Okay, because I didn't like I didn't really like the end of Bo's Afraid.
00:37:56
SuperDong
That was about it.
00:37:59
meatrichards
So maybe maybe ill maybe that'll change me.
00:38:02
SuperDong
Yeah, I enjoyed that.
00:38:02
meatrichards
But that's the thing. We didn't really i didn't really like Bo's Afraid after we watched it. You know, I really i really like Eddington.
00:38:06
SuperDong
No. Yeah, there was a lot of issues with it.
00:38:10
meatrichards
Like, I really liked it. So I don't want to say i don't want to reduce it to a good set. I don't want to So, you know, don't know. And I also don't want to glaze it.
00:38:18
SuperDong
Yeah, pending. Review pending.
00:38:19
meatrichards
I don't want to. Yeah. Jury's still out.
00:38:23
SuperDong
Sure, he's still out.
00:38:23
meatrichards
You know, i might, you know, ask me in 10 years. Yeah,
00:38:25
Steve-O
first First view, you gave it these scores.
00:38:29
Steve-O
But then, you know, upon a second viewing, it in may change.
00:38:31
SuperDong
Might change. um ah I'm not perfect.
00:38:32
meatrichards
because that's because that's the thing. I was kind of afraid about this movie because I mean, I knew it was going to be divisive because every movie of his is divisive. Right. So it's like you can't you can't.
00:38:42
meatrichards
That's not going to scare me away.
00:38:43
SuperDong
No, never, never.
00:38:44
meatrichards
But like, well, I think like people were, you know, when people were saying they they people were saying they had problems with it. Like they disagreed with it and stuff. was like, oh, OK, so maybe.
00:38:57
meatrichards
Hopefully, you know, i was like, I don't know, like, is he going to, you know.
00:39:00
SuperDong
Well, disagreeing with a movie is one thing, but when, you know, you show me that movie that Steve suggested or made me watch for the the worst, our worst, what was it called again?
00:39:12
Steve-O
Oh, the Trump prophecy.
00:39:14
SuperDong
Yeah, the Trump Prophecy. Like, that, to me, is like, offensively awful, and its politics are terrible. But, like, this is, you could disagree with this.
00:39:26
SuperDong
This is not that at all.
00:39:28
meatrichards
Right. No, but like people, yeah, but like, yeah, yeah.
00:39:30
meatrichards
I, I, that's the thing. Like I was afraid because also, you know, Bo's afraid.
00:39:34
SuperDong
and I knew it wasn't going to be that I knew it wasn't going to be anything like that the Trump prophecy
00:39:37
meatrichards
honestly, I, this, i mean I'm I'm going to say, uh, I'm going to say this, this movie did, um, exceed my expectations.
00:39:44
meatrichards
I didn't think I was going to like it as much as I did just from everything that I heard. And this,
00:39:48
SuperDong
it's hard to say I even like it like it's like a movie that really just like it shows you the guts of everything and it's disgusting kind of like it's not it's so bleak
00:39:52
meatrichards
I really liked
00:40:00
SuperDong
It's really bleak. um Yeah. Like I can't, like i keep saying, it's hard to say it was entertaining. I wouldn't say it was entertaining.
00:40:06
meatrichards
Oh, man. Yeah, okay.
00:40:08
SuperDong
You know what I mean?
00:40:08
meatrichards
yeah So, Bo's Afraid is more entertaining than this, you would say.
00:40:11
SuperDong
Definitely. Yeah.
00:40:12
meatrichards
Okay, because there are funny parts of that.
00:40:12
SuperDong
The first act, it's right.
00:40:15
Steve-O
What is the current Ari Aster like best or worst in your opinions?
00:40:22
SuperDong
I got some flack for this, but it's Midsommar.
00:40:23
meatrichards
i don't i don't know, man.
00:40:25
SuperDong
hereditary. It's hereditary. It's this, and then it's Bo's afraid it's Eddington both free.
00:40:30
DeeBo
I would say hereditary Midsommar Eddington Bo.
00:40:36
meatrichards
I have not seen a Hereditary in a while. But i know I know I loved it a lot. Wait, ah Devin, what is strange thing about the Johnsons ranking this?
00:40:48
meatrichards
Is that above or below Bo?
00:40:52
meatrichards
Okay. I can't...
00:40:54
DeeBo
But that's the thing.
00:40:54
DeeBo
like That is the closest to Bo for sure.
00:40:55
meatrichards
It's hard, man.
00:40:58
meatrichards
Yeah, i would say i would say Hereditary and Midsommar, I would say, is 1A, 1B for me. I really like...
00:41:05
meatrichards
I really liked both of them a lot. i loved I loved both of them, I would say. and then And then Eddington, I think, i is like really like not that far behind those two, I think.
00:41:17
meatrichards
I really liked this movie lot.
00:41:18
SuperDong
I think Midsommar literally like half a point difference for me. The only the only half a point that goes Midsommar is just because that movie is...
00:41:31
SuperDong
hi trying to hit out of the park every single time it's up to bat.
00:41:33
DeeBo
but redit like The thing I love about Hereditary, well, outside of the entirety of it, but like I think Toni Collette gives the best performance she's ever done.
00:41:38
meatrichards
outside ah yeah Outside of fucking Tony Collette. Tony Collette.
00:41:43
SuperDong
she's That's really good performance.
00:41:45
DeeBo
And that made me mad that she didn't get even nominated.
00:41:47
SuperDong
Very, very good.
00:41:48
meatrichards
Okay. Do you think Tony Collette's performance is the best out of all of the performances in Ari Aster's movies?
00:41:53
SuperDong
Yeah, that's easy yes for me.
00:41:55
DeeBo
Yeah. She's so goddamn good.
00:41:58
SuperDong
I think I was more enthralled.
00:41:58
meatrichards
Yeah, but like, what about Joaquin Phoenix in is Afraid? though I mean, the movie is not great, but like but his performance was incredible in Bo is Afraid. should say
00:42:09
SuperDong
i I agree, but I also like i i like Ari Aster taking chances, but there's a limit to it. And I feel like Midsommar the perfect balance.
00:42:20
meatrichards
Midsommar is like is that that's him taking the chance in it and him hitting it out of the park okay yeah that's pretty wild
00:42:21
SuperDong
Yeah, definitely. Definitely. A horror in broad daylight, like, that, to me, just fucking wonderful. It's, like, goes all the way back to, like, Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
00:42:32
SuperDong
You know, like, that's, to me, when you can do that properly, oh, man, that's something.
00:42:37
meatrichards
I was just... The thing is, I was...
00:42:38
DeeBo
I'll just say he continues the trend of having insane third acts.
00:42:39
meatrichards
I was... I was i was afraid...
00:42:42
SuperDong
Yeah, definitely.
00:42:44
meatrichards
Yeah, i was I was afraid that, like, um after Bo, like, if Eddington was, like, in the same vein that the Ari Aster, like, Mystique and...
00:42:56
meatrichards
Allure would drift away after two not great movies. But I'm like even more like fucking locked into what he wants to do next after Eddington, if that makes any sense.
00:43:08
meatrichards
like I'm more interested in what he's going to do next now than I was after watching Bo's Afraid.
00:43:12
SuperDong
However, are you interested in the rumor I heard where he has an idea for Hereditary 2?
00:43:21
meatrichards
Yes. I mean, why not?
00:43:25
SuperDong
That be interesting, right? that's what i That's a rumor. There's no no evidence to that.
00:43:31
Steve-O
That's something. That's something, though.
00:43:33
SuperDong
That is something. That would be
00:43:34
meatrichards
Yeah, between him and like Robert Eggers, it's like I think we're i think we're we're in a good shot a good spot right now with movies.
00:43:39
SuperDong
Oh, we're good. With horror?
00:43:40
meatrichards
Oh, and weapons is 100% right now.
00:43:41
SuperDong
Man, horror, I've been eating good with horror this whole year.
00:43:43
DeeBo
I mean, also, not to mention, the apparently Together's scoring really well, and so with weapons.
00:43:52
meatrichards
oh and and and weapons is a hundred percent right now
00:43:56
SuperDong
Oh, I'm so excited for weapons.
00:43:57
DeeBo
Yeah. Like, Together's like a 95 or something like that. So it's just like...
00:44:01
SuperDong
Dude, I... Weapons is like, that's... have feeling that's gonna be my jam.
00:44:05
meatrichards
Did you hear that Kregers has a script that he's going to submit for for Joker?
00:44:09
DeeBo
Crygono's. Oh, I...
00:44:14
meatrichards
For Joker and Harley Quinn?
00:44:15
SuperDong
Yeah, I heard that.
00:44:17
meatrichards
How does that make you feel?
00:44:18
DeeBo
I'm still too grossed out by Joker 2, think, to for me to get excited.
00:44:24
SuperDong
I just, I'm kind of tired of the Joker in general.
00:44:28
Steve-O
Get rid of them. Get rid of them.
00:44:29
DeeBo
Just get rid of him.
00:44:30
meatrichards
Just have em sing have him sing more in
00:44:30
SuperDong
Yeah, like, you see, Absolute figured that out.
00:44:34
SuperDong
Absolute Batman.
00:44:35
DeeBo
He's covering dead babies or whatever the fuck.
00:44:39
DeeBo
The fuck's going on in that one snippet that we saw him in.
00:44:42
SuperDong
all you need, man.
00:44:42
meatrichards
So anyway, we watched them we watch Eddington on, what was that, Tuesday? Right? Tuesday we watched Eddington.
00:44:50
meatrichards
And then Thursday, Devin watched Fantastic Four.
00:44:54
meatrichards
And then I couldn't go. And I went on Saturday alone.
00:44:57
SuperDong
Fantastic fart.
00:44:57
DeeBo
Yeah, why why'd you go alone, John? ah Wasn't somebody supposed to come with you?
00:45:01
meatrichards
ah Because Chris was too tired, I guess.
00:45:07
SuperDong
I was out for the count
00:45:07
meatrichards
He was too busy, too tired thinking about fucking Eddington.
00:45:12
meatrichards
And he couldn't be bothered.
00:45:12
SuperDong
I was running, running through my mind.
00:45:13
meatrichards
He could not be bothered. not be bothered
00:45:15
Steve-O
Chris is just laying in bed staring at the ceiling.
00:45:16
DeeBo
i like yeah I like to think Chris was like just chilling out, and then he saw the text and was like, hey, you still down?
00:45:21
DeeBo
And Chris just made a face like, ugh, no.
00:45:24
DeeBo
And then went back to whatever he was doing.
00:45:25
SuperDong
I'm not going to lie.
00:45:28
Steve-O
Fantastic. Four, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah.
00:45:31
SuperDong
There's part, part of me was like, I'm not going to lie.
00:45:34
DeeBo
Snob City, dude. All right, so, no, so, well, I think...
00:45:37
SuperDong
I, you're not wrong. Wow.
00:45:41
DeeBo
I conned myself into buying a fucking $80 Herbie um popcorn bucket.
00:45:49
meatrichards
Yeah, our Mean Steve's classy Daily Planet newspaper dispenser popcorn bucket was only like 30 bucks, by the way.
00:45:57
DeeBo
Yeah. Well, mine lights up and plays music. So, fuck you. I don't really know what else to say about it.
00:46:05
Steve-O
You basically got a Japanese toilet, Devin.
00:46:07
DeeBo
Dude, dude. So, but the thing was, right, is like, the chick's selling me on it She's like, oh, do you want it
00:46:11
meatrichards
Fucking that's stupid.
00:46:13
DeeBo
And I was like, how much is it?
00:46:15
meatrichards
Oh, fucking girl.
00:46:16
meatrichards
You got girl stopped again, but at the movie theater.
00:46:17
DeeBo
No, no, no. This is different. This is different. But I was like, how much is it? Because in my head, I had a number. was like, 60 is my limit. She's like, $79. It's 99. And I was like, no. And she's like, but literally, like she just fucking had me. She's like, but it comes with a free popcorn, a free soda, and a free candy.
00:46:38
DeeBo
And I was like, oh, fuck. And then I did the math. And I was like, OK. And I just did it
00:46:45
meatrichards
Okay, so it's only
00:46:46
DeeBo
Yeah, so I was like, it's basically free. And Reese's Pieces, dude.
00:46:48
Steve-O
What kind of candy did you get?
00:46:52
DeeBo
ah So then, but this was kind of the insulting part. was like, oh, I have a $5 credit. She's like, it doesn't work with that. And I was like, are you fucking kidding me, dude?
00:47:02
meatrichards
there Wait, you got AMC Stubbsed?
00:47:03
DeeBo
ah Dude, I got stubbed out.
00:47:05
meatrichards
You told her you're a fucking investor, right?
00:47:07
DeeBo
Yeah, I should have.
00:47:08
meatrichards
You told her you're ah you're a fucking investor?
00:47:10
DeeBo
She would spit in her face.
00:47:11
meatrichards
You're an actual investor?
00:47:11
DeeBo
So then like the problem became me with this giant bag. Like they give me the popcorn. They give me the drink.
00:47:18
meatrichards
Yeah, it's kind of annoying.
00:47:19
DeeBo
And then I have this thing and I'm like, I don't want to throw it in my car because i mean, you know, the implication.
00:47:26
DeeBo
And then I sit down and this thing's tall, dude. This thing's like two.
00:47:31
SuperDong
Did you put it in the seat next to you?
00:47:33
DeeBo
No, no. Because this was a packed theater.
00:47:35
SuperDong
Oh, shit. All right.
00:47:36
DeeBo
And then some guy this is the the fucking Snyder Cut guy that Chris and I were talking about, Borden, good friend, friend in real life, friend of the show, Borden.
00:47:48
SuperDong
Friday the podcast.
00:47:49
DeeBo
ah He... This guy's like, oh, how much was that? I was like, 80 bucks. And he's like, you think this movie's going be really good? And I was like, no. I was like, I think it's, well, not no, i he I think he was just like, oh, you must think, I think he was like, you must think this movie's going to amazing because you spent $80 on a fucking Herbie popcorn bucket.
00:48:01
meatrichards
Oh, he's Hope. He's a Snyder, bro. This could be Superman. James Goon Superman.
00:48:14
DeeBo
And I was like, no, I'm just hoping this movie's like just pretty good.
00:48:18
DeeBo
uh and then he was like asking other he's like did you see superman he's like yeah i really love super well like him about superman so much he's like i didn't have to like you know saw that and i was like yeah dude fuck yeah like i like superman a lot too and then uh he didn't buy the yeah i was like i don't know man and then ah when the movie ended he was then like i like how like
00:48:33
Steve-O
He didn't buy the popcorn bucket for it.
00:48:43
DeeBo
And then just insert just like stupid opinion here. And I was like, okay. And then he was like, listen, I'm going to, so I might die on this hill, but he has the gall to complain about the post credit scene as if the Superman ones any better.
00:49:08
DeeBo
And I was like, dude, it's, It's whatever. like what Who gets that worked up over the post-credits?
00:49:15
meatrichards
ah Because, you know why, Devin?
00:49:17
meatrichards
Because in an MCU movie, that makes that makes the entire movie, that's the whole fucking movie, is is a...
00:49:17
DeeBo
All right, here it is. Okay. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. but no The mid-credits. The mid-credit does. The little whatever at the end is always a joke.
00:49:28
meatrichards
Oh, he got mad at the last one?
00:49:29
DeeBo
He went, boo. Like that. And I was like, are you fucking kidding me, dude? like It's no different. Then the Superman one, the Superman mid credits, pointless.
00:49:39
DeeBo
The Superman end credit, fun little gag, no harm, no foul.
00:49:43
DeeBo
But this guy's like upset that it didn't, even though his main complaint is like, oh, you know, I just don't like how i have to watch all this, that. And I'm like, yeah, man, I get it. And why you like Superman? Oh, cause I don't got to do this.
00:49:55
DeeBo
But then he's upset that the fucking end stinger doesn't like prolong the fucking lore. And I'm like, dude, you got pick a lane, my guy.
00:50:01
meatrichards
Well, you know... dev that's just like...
00:50:06
meatrichards
Fucking MCU brain rot. like but That's what it is now.
00:50:08
DeeBo
But that's what was like, dude, you're wrong.
00:50:08
Steve-O
That's that big buttery Iron Man slab right there, man.
00:50:09
DeeBo
But he's wrong. i was like, it doesn't mean anything.
00:50:12
SuperDong
Buttery Iron Man.
00:50:13
DeeBo
Yeah. So it's just something that's been irking me. That being said, what?
00:50:14
Steve-O
You got to get that buttery Iron Man slab at the end.
00:50:19
meatrichards
Wait, what was... What was the... Oh, okay. the
00:50:21
DeeBo
It's kind of spoiler.
00:50:23
DeeBo
Yeah. I mean, it's,
00:50:23
meatrichards
Yeah, it's not really a spoiler, but like you're talking about the talk about the fun the fun stupid one that they that they showed after the credits were done, right?
00:50:33
DeeBo
Yeah, well, I guess he, like, I guess he just booed.
00:50:35
meatrichards
That's what he got mad about? Or did he get mad at the MCU one?
00:50:37
DeeBo
I mean, it's not like we talked about, like, the first stinger, and then he booed. i You know, he just booed at the end.
00:50:44
DeeBo
Literally booed, and I was like, chill out.
00:50:48
meatrichards
That's funny. That was me.
00:50:50
Steve-O
Dude, I just bought $80 Herbie.
00:50:51
meatrichards
That was me in my fucking...
00:50:52
meatrichards
That was me in my Mission Impossible mask.
00:50:55
meatrichards
I got States next to you and just pretended to be somebody else.
00:50:59
meatrichards
Just get a fucking rise out of you.
00:51:00
DeeBo
But, like, I'm at a point... I can't remember ah can't remember the end stinger in Fantastic Four.
00:51:05
DeeBo
I remember the mid-season, or the mid-credits.
00:51:11
DeeBo
I literally cannot remember.
00:51:13
Steve-O
Of the movie you just saw.
00:51:13
DeeBo
oh, oh, oh, it was the little cartoon. They do the little cartoon.
00:51:17
SuperDong
How juicy was the mid-credit team?
00:51:19
DeeBo
Pretty fucking juicy.
00:51:20
meatrichards
It wasn't that juicy.
00:51:20
DeeBo
No, it was pretty juicy.
00:51:21
meatrichards
It wasn't that juicy.
00:51:22
DeeBo
It was pretty juicy.
00:51:22
Steve-O
o All right. Out of a zero to 10.
00:51:25
meatrichards
yeah Can we tell you what it is?
00:51:26
Steve-O
Zero to 10. No, no, no, no, no.
00:51:27
meatrichards
You guys care? Okay.
00:51:29
SuperDong
i'll I'll see it tomorrow.
Juicy Movies and Post-Credits Discussion
00:51:31
SuperDong
I'll probably see it.
00:51:31
Steve-O
I'd like to see this movie at some point.
00:51:31
meatrichards
It's fucking it's, it's, you know, it's really not that.
00:51:33
SuperDong
I'll probably see it tomorrow.
00:51:33
DeeBo
All right. well Okay. On the range of not that juicy to pretty juicy, I think it's more juicy than not.
00:51:38
meatrichards
I mean, you got well, okay, so here's here's my complaint because you guys watch Thunderbolts, right?
00:51:45
meatrichards
Okay, well, do you care what happened to that?
00:51:49
meatrichards
du can I tell you what happens at the end?
00:51:51
Steve-O
you can tell me what thought about.
00:51:52
meatrichards
Okay, the...
00:51:53
meatrichards
I'm not going to tell you what happens in the movie, but the post-credits scene had a lot of juice in it because they see like footage of the Fantastic Four ship flying to their Earth.
00:52:07
DeeBo
It's like something entered orbit and then it's a
Thunderbolts and Marvel's Production Issues
00:52:10
DeeBo
rocket and then it turned and we'd see the...
00:52:11
meatrichards
and it's and And you hear the Fantastic Four!
00:52:14
meatrichards
And then it cuts, right?
00:52:16
Steve-O
And this is are you saying on the juice scales, was that juicier?
00:52:21
meatrichards
yeah that's ah That's a juicy โ that was juicy.
00:52:23
meatrichards
No, no, hold on. Let me fucking talk, Evan. Just let me talk.
00:52:27
meatrichards
yeah Let me talk for once. I know you're the Marvel guy, but let me talk for three seconds.
00:52:33
meatrichards
It was juicy because that movie came out, what, a few months ago?
00:52:38
Steve-O
it was like February.
00:52:38
meatrichards
Before โ and was leading up to this movie where they did not reference it at all.
00:52:43
meatrichards
at one sec, one one little bit.
00:52:45
meatrichards
There was no reference to it.
00:52:47
meatrichards
No callback to it. Nothing acknowledging it at all. So it didn't even matter. Nobody's, people still don't know. And from what I'm reading online, Chris, is they don't even have the, they don't even have the fucking script finished for Doomsday.
00:52:59
meatrichards
They're still writing it as they're shooting it.
00:53:00
SuperDong
Yeah, I heard that. I read that too.
00:53:01
meatrichards
So, like, they don't even know what the fuck they're doing.
00:53:03
Steve-O
feels like Feels like we're getting a Star Wars situation.
00:53:06
meatrichards
That's what I feel. Yeah, we're getting fucking Rian Johnson right now. We're getting Last Jedi'd.
00:53:10
SuperDong
I think somebody spoke up and and was like, this is stupid.
00:53:10
meatrichards
It might be a good movie, but like,
00:53:14
SuperDong
I think it was Robert Downey Jr.
00:53:16
Steve-O
This is dumb. This is stupid.
00:53:17
DeeBo
No, I think he's like, we'll do whatever he's making.
00:53:18
meatrichards
Well, that's the problem when you got Michael Jordan on the team. He
James Gunn vs. Marvel's Approach
00:53:20
meatrichards
got he gets, yeah, Robert Downey Jr.
00:53:22
meatrichards
is basically Michael Jordan slash Kobe Bryant. Like, he'll just check himself in and fucking call the shots, you know? Like, it's, and it's, I don't know if that's good or bad, but, like, it doesn't make me have a lot of, faith like, because I'm hearing about that, but then, you know, again, I don't want to fucking gas myself up, but, like, you hear, you know, Clayface coming out.
00:53:28
SuperDong
Yeah, that's what i'm thinking.
00:53:43
meatrichards
It has nothing to do with anything. They just want it to come out because it's a good movie. because it seems like it's going to be a good movie.
00:53:47
SuperDong
Yeah, dude. Script was finished.
00:53:48
meatrichards
And that's...
00:53:49
SuperDong
Script was finished.
00:53:49
meatrichards
Like, that's more... Like, that's more refreshing to me than hearing that the fucking script of the next big event in movies isn't even done as they're shooting it.
00:53:56
SuperDong
It's the exact opposite philosophy that James Gunn has for these DC movies.
00:54:00
DeeBo
Well, no, listen, that that is a great that is a great talking point for James Gunn to just continuously hammer home.
00:54:07
DeeBo
Because one, it makes sense. And two, it's just a better way to go about it.
00:54:12
meatrichards
It's just a better way to do things. Like, you know, just...
00:54:12
DeeBo
yeah So I'm all about him being like,
00:54:14
meatrichards
Make good movies. Let's make good movies first.
00:54:15
DeeBo
No. Yeah, i will i will I will destroy something.
00:54:16
Steve-O
That's how they do with comics, right?
00:54:20
DeeBo
Now, granted, there there probably will be, if this gets more and more popular, if this really takes off, you know, he will probably get to a point where he's going to have to, you know, back off on that.
00:54:30
DeeBo
But I say we enjoy this.
00:54:31
SuperDong
Nah. Clayface is good. If Clayface is good, we're getting an Animal Man movie.
00:54:35
DeeBo
No, no, but I'm saying, I'm saying, like, once the train, dude, once that train starts fucking going, like,
00:54:37
Steve-O
Ooh, yes, please.
00:54:42
DeeBo
People going be nah, i don't give a fuck. Like, put it out. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, if that's the train, dude.
00:54:47
SuperDong
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:48
meatrichards
Yeah, but I guess the the issue...
00:54:49
SuperDong
Whatever it is, get it out
00:54:49
DeeBo
So I'm saying let's
Studio Strategies and Movie Releases
00:54:50
DeeBo
enjoy it while we can.
00:54:50
meatrichards
yeah the thing I guess the advantage is James Gunn is like the fucking CEO.
00:54:56
meatrichards
So it's like it does it's not like he has to answer to anybody.
00:54:57
DeeBo
you I mean, but Feige, Feige's not like, I'm sure Feige wishes he could have complete and good scripts.
00:55:05
meatrichards
So why doesn't he demand it?
00:55:06
SuperDong
Well, it's the production schedule.
00:55:07
meatrichards
don't understand. Like...
00:55:07
DeeBo
This John Disney is going to fucking stomp on his neck, dude.
00:55:08
SuperDong
It's production schedules.
00:55:12
SuperDong
Well, how does, how does James Gunn wrangle Zaslav then?
00:55:15
SuperDong
Like, why isn't he, why isn't Feige doing the same thing?
00:55:15
DeeBo
Because Zaslav is a fucking... It's a different situation. And we all know.
00:55:21
Steve-O
Yeah, I think Zaslav's dirtier.
00:55:22
DeeBo
He's not fucking... He's not...
00:55:24
DeeBo
He's like, I don't...
00:55:24
Steve-O
He's like, Gun, you can do whatever the fuck you want.
00:55:27
Steve-O
Just make sure it brings me money.
00:55:30
Steve-O
And then he smacks him.
00:55:32
DeeBo
Dude, Zaslav's the first guy in line that's going to be like, yo, I need this now, dude.
00:55:34
SuperDong
That's the way it used to be done.
00:55:38
DeeBo
What are you talking about? Anyway...
00:55:40
Steve-O
Aren't they releasing the fucking Coyote movie that they fucking like said?
00:55:44
SuperDong
No, they aren't.
00:55:45
Steve-O
they Yeah, they did they just put out trailers for it at San Diego Comic-Con.
00:55:49
SuperDong
I thought they sold that movie
New Movie Review and Comparisons
00:55:50
DeeBo
No. Well, I mean, it hasn't released date.
00:55:52
Steve-O
They might have, but it is coming out now.
00:55:53
DeeBo
It hasn't released date
00:55:54
Steve-O
It is coming out now. It might not be Warner Brothers, though.
00:55:57
SuperDong
Yeah, it's it's like it's a company called Ketchup.
00:55:58
meatrichards
No, I don't think it is Warner Brothers.
00:56:01
SuperDong
um they they own They own the rights of another movie that somebody threw out. That's what they're known for.
00:56:09
SuperDong
I think that's pretty cool, all things considered.
00:56:11
DeeBo
Yeah. I mean, that being said, I very much enjoyed this movie. um I liked it less than Superman. They just get that out of the way.
00:56:23
DeeBo
But it was good. I think it's better than Thunderbolts. I think it's the best Marvel movie that came out this year. I think the tone's awesome.
00:56:31
SuperDong
Wait, what other movie besides Thunderbolt? Oh, God.
00:56:34
meatrichards
Captain America.
00:56:34
SuperDong
Captain America.
00:56:34
DeeBo
Heck, have an American.
00:56:35
SuperDong
fucking Christ.
00:56:36
DeeBo
I think, I do think this movie has like
Fantastic Four Alternate Universe
00:56:40
DeeBo
a gigantic Doom-sized plot hole in it. um Just in the sense of like, why has, like, you're telling me Dr. Doom, who does seemingly exist in this universe, doesn't have an opinion on what's happening in this world.
00:56:58
meatrichards
No, because they do, they do cut to, like, mean, i don't know if this a spoiler either, but, like, They do cut to like a like there's a there's like a U.N.
00:57:04
DeeBo
It's like a UN situation. Yeah.
00:57:06
meatrichards
thing and the Latveria seat is empty. He's not there.
00:57:10
DeeBo
Yeah. And you're like, Ooh,
00:57:12
meatrichards
But like you would there's some theories behind that too. Like some people think that he's just like fucking hopping to 616 or.
00:57:18
DeeBo
I mean, yeah, maybe it's, it's, yeah, it's just like, um, what's really cool about this.
00:57:20
meatrichards
Well, he's just chilling.
00:57:25
DeeBo
And again, I'll keep things broad, but like, this is a world, it starts off like eight earth, eight, three, t eight, two, three or whatever. Right.
00:57:35
SuperDong
eight two three
00:57:35
meatrichards
828, I think.
00:57:36
DeeBo
Yeah, 828. And they're just like, okay, so this is not like, you know, the MCU that we know about. um Which is fine, but this is...
00:57:44
meatrichards
this is It's an amazing world where racism never existed in the 60s, right?
00:57:49
meatrichards
And where world peace could just happen overnight. Literally, like it just happens overnight here because of the Fantastic Four.
00:57:53
DeeBo
Because... Yeah, because like Reed Richards is that good. Like, it's kind of like he's already solved all of the problems in this world.
00:58:04
meatrichards
it's a stark difference between how the world is in Superman and how the world is in here.
00:58:10
meatrichards
Like Superman is more realistic. Whereas this is like, this is like, it's literally like fucking Jetsons cartoon land where every, everything is perfect.
00:58:17
DeeBo
That's a really good.
00:58:17
meatrichards
Like that's, that's what it feels like.
00:58:19
meatrichards
And it's not a bad thing.
Galactus and IMAX Experience
00:58:20
meatrichards
I think the aesthetic actually does a good, and again, don't take this like incendiary as incendiary as, as I'm intending it. But like, like I feel like the aesthetics of the movie are so good that they they kind of like do a good job of hiding the issues of the movie.
00:58:35
meatrichards
And I don't think that's a bad thing.
00:58:35
DeeBo
Well, you know what? I just kinda, I kinda, so there's a speech that is given in this movie. Um, That I think, frankly, is...
00:58:44
meatrichards
I'm as human as anyone! that's what That's what they say.
00:58:46
DeeBo
but There's like a speech that's in this movie where I'm like, this is this is pretty stupid and in no way should actually work.
00:58:48
meatrichards
Fucking... God damn
00:58:56
DeeBo
But I kind of think, I'm like, I would i just kind of imagined, alright, if this was given in the current MCU universe, they would fucking boo these people out of the building.
00:59:06
DeeBo
But because we're in this kind of like Jackson's-esque world,
00:59:09
meatrichards
yeah it makes
Marvel's Future Character Appearances
00:59:10
meatrichards
it makes sense in the context Yeah, it makes sense in the context.
00:59:13
meatrichards
It's literally like it's literally fucking North Pole land and in the Santa Claus movie.
00:59:17
meatrichards
like That's how it is.
00:59:18
DeeBo
And it works. And yeah, it's not bad at all. ah
00:59:20
meatrichards
It's so amazing that somebody takes a waist-level finder film camera and puts it up to their fucking eye like an idiot in the movie.
00:59:29
DeeBo
That bugged me too, John.
00:59:32
meatrichards
Because you knew. You knew.
00:59:33
Steve-O
if you know you know
00:59:35
meatrichards
yeah ah if you're friends with me, you know that that was wrong.
00:59:38
DeeBo
but um I think Galactus was great I don't I don't get people like oh it has a ah problem I'm like no it doesn't I don't know
00:59:43
meatrichards
Galactus was awesome.
00:59:47
meatrichards
What's wrong? What do they want? A fucking wasp?
00:59:49
Steve-O
they want that purple cloud back baby they already have that with Elias come on
00:59:49
meatrichards
lo They want a lo locust locust cloud?
00:59:52
DeeBo
Not only were not, I'll be honest.
00:59:53
meatrichards
Is that what they want?
00:59:56
DeeBo
Not only was I he reading about how he was bad, but also how he looked bad. And I was like, I don't.
01:00:01
meatrichards
Nah, dude. He looked awesome.
01:00:02
DeeBo
Yeah. He looked great.
01:00:03
meatrichards
He looked the sea looked sick.
01:00:04
Steve-O
Did you guys watch an IMAX?
01:00:06
meatrichards
I did not watch an IMAX.
01:00:06
DeeBo
I did not either. No, I tried, but it was just front row Joes.
01:00:09
DeeBo
And I was like, I'm not going to look at Galactus.
01:00:11
meatrichards
Um, fucking...
01:00:13
meatrichards
Dude, Vanessa Kirby fucking, I'm sorry, Devin, but, you know, she fucking carried the cast.
01:00:19
meatrichards
She put the whole fucking movie on her back, I feel. Like, she carried, like, Sue Storm actually carries Fantastic Four.
01:00:22
DeeBo
I think she's really good.
01:00:28
DeeBo
Mole Man's great. i
01:00:31
meatrichards
Mole Man is great. Cobra Kai, Mole Man.
01:00:31
DeeBo
I looked at this movie and actually had a thought though. I was like, we got Galactus on the big screen. Done justice. Like truly, I don't really have any complaints about it.
01:00:45
DeeBo
And I was kind of thinking, i was like, is like the bucket list, is the superhero
Casting Concerns: Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom
01:00:50
DeeBo
bucket list done? Like what else is there that it's like, no, that's so that's a bucket list though.
01:00:54
meatrichards
We got everything.
01:00:55
SuperDong
Absolute Batman. Absolute Wonder Woman.
01:00:57
meatrichards
ah Animal Man?
01:00:57
SuperDong
Absolute Martian Manhunter.
01:00:59
meatrichards
We don't have an Animal Man.
01:01:00
meatrichards
We don't have an Animal Man.
01:01:00
Steve-O
No animal man. No animal man.
01:01:02
SuperDong
Every DC property. i look
01:01:03
Steve-O
DC, DC, see, that's the thing.
01:01:04
DeeBo
That's a bucket list.
01:01:05
Steve-O
DC's got to catch DC's got to run.
01:01:08
SuperDong
Yeah, dude, it is.
01:01:09
meatrichards
Wait, so Marvel...
01:01:09
meatrichards
I mean, we don't have we don't have we don't have Miles in a live-action movie.
01:01:14
DeeBo
So miles is in the bucket.
01:01:15
meatrichards
And apparently...
01:01:15
Steve-O
true. That's true.
01:01:16
meatrichards
And allegedly, he is untouchable. They would they were not... They were keeping him close to the chest.
01:01:20
DeeBo
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's,
01:01:22
DeeBo
Ken Feige's like, i'm not allowed.
01:01:22
meatrichards
Like, I think Feige said, yeah, he's like, I'm not allowed to put him in anything.
01:01:27
meatrichards
Which is, you know what?
01:01:28
meatrichards
Good. He's too... He's the crown jewel of fucking...
01:01:31
DeeBo
He's all they have.
01:01:32
meatrichards
Of superhero characters.
01:01:33
meatrichards
Yeah, he's like... He's he's literally the fucking get-out-of-jail-free card that they're waiting, that that they'll need.
01:01:37
DeeBo
Yeah. but But I mean, I guess like just in terms i was like, all right, we got, we've seen Doom already in movies. ah
01:01:44
meatrichards
You've seen Thanos.
01:01:46
DeeBo
We've seen the Avengers.
01:01:46
meatrichards
We've seen...
01:01:47
meatrichards
We've seen Apocalypse.
01:01:47
DeeBo
We've seen Team Ups. We've seen Apocalypse. It's not great, but we've seen Apocalypse.
01:01:51
SuperDong
No, not that one.
01:01:53
DeeBo
But I'm just saying, yeah, no, no, it counts.
01:01:53
meatrichards
No, it counts.
01:01:54
meatrichards
He's Apocalypse, Chris. It counts.
01:01:56
DeeBo
that's That's what I mean. I'm not saying it's...
01:01:57
Steve-O
there is a There is a visual live action version of the character.
01:01:59
DeeBo
Yeah, like, somebody can feel justified in some sort of way.
01:02:05
DeeBo
And, like, yeah, i was just like, god damn, like...
01:02:09
meatrichards
yeah who don't who don't we have?
01:02:10
DeeBo
Because, like, there was there were scenes, like, there's kind of like a montage situation in this movie where you see...
01:02:15
Steve-O
and booster gold.
01:02:17
SuperDong
There's so many DC characters.
01:02:18
DeeBo
Yeah, I guess i guess it's the easy, right?
01:02:19
meatrichards
No, I'm talking about Marvel.
01:02:21
meatrichards
We've seen everyone in Marvel, I think.
01:02:22
SuperDong
marvel Marvel is a little bit more... That's harder.
01:02:24
DeeBo
Yeah, like, yeah we got Sentry, you know? I feel like I'm... In terms of, like, Bucket List, I feel like we're
Donkey Kong Game Mechanics
01:02:30
DeeBo
scraping, you know? Because it's not like...
01:02:31
meatrichards
we have We even have Dormammu. We have Dormammu, guys.
01:02:33
DeeBo
Yeah, we got fucking Dormammu, dude. Like... bo I got a Moon Knight fucking...
01:02:39
Steve-O
They did Shuma Gorath, I think of one of the Doctor Strange.
01:02:43
SuperDong
Yeah, they did.
01:02:43
DeeBo
so Yeah, it kind of sucked.
01:02:45
SuperDong
and that In the fucking Sam Raimi one.
01:02:49
DeeBo
Yeah. I think technically it wasn't Shuma, but was like, bro, it...
01:02:53
meatrichards
That's Shumagorath.
01:02:54
DeeBo
Yeah, it's fucking shooting Gorath. Relax. um
01:02:56
DeeBo
Yeah, but no, I was...
01:02:57
SuperDong
Ding, fang, foon.
01:02:59
DeeBo
Did we get Finn Fang Foom?
01:02:59
meatrichards
We have Batroc.
01:03:01
Steve-O
We don't have Fing Fang Foom.
01:03:02
DeeBo
Yeah, we got got Bat...
01:03:03
meatrichards
We got Batroc.
01:03:06
meatrichards
We got, oh wait, do we have Annihilus? Nope.
01:03:11
DeeBo
My personal bucket list.
01:03:11
meatrichards
There's your, there it is.
01:03:12
SuperDong
Onslaught, Devon? What about Onslaught?
01:03:15
meatrichards
Ooh, we don't have Onslaught.
01:03:16
DeeBo
Is he really a bucket list?
01:03:17
meatrichards
That's where we're going.
01:03:18
meatrichards
Dude, no, I mean, we got Franklin Richards and they're doing X-Men, so Nate Gray is just around the corner. So we got Onslaught coming.
01:03:23
DeeBo
All right, this is not a spoiler, but John, would you approve or not approve if they just stuck to their guns?
01:03:23
Steve-O
That's true. That's true. He's right.
01:03:31
DeeBo
And by the time we get to, like, toddler or young child, Franklin Richards, he's still an entirely CG being. Would you respect that?
01:03:43
DeeBo
This baby's entirely CG.
01:03:46
Steve-O
Franklin is always Joel and Ellie at the museum.
01:03:47
DeeBo
i I mean, I would kind of respect that if they're like, nah, fuck it.
01:03:51
meatrichards
I mean, paid Pedro had a...
01:03:53
meatrichards
He had a good papa moment in this movie, too, I would say.
01:03:55
DeeBo
Yeah. No, he's, I think they're all good. um The only thing that's.
01:04:00
meatrichards
i feel like... You know what? Yeah, the one thing that bothers me, Devin...
01:04:05
meatrichards
They don't have Joel and Ellie at the museum, no. But he does he does have a good moment, a good dad
Pauline's Comeback in Donkey Kong
01:04:10
meatrichards
moment in it.
01:04:12
meatrichards
didn't It didn't come close to even getting me ah even a little bit choked up. So it wasn't that powerful, but it was it was pretty good. um
01:04:22
meatrichards
not Not as good as the dad moments we've seen in Superman, which had the best dad moments.
01:04:25
Steve-O
Superman, top-tier dad moments.
01:04:27
meatrichards
Yeah, fucking start a harem. Start fucking everybody, Cal. and We're good.
01:04:30
Steve-O
No, not that dad. Not that dad.
01:04:32
meatrichards
and No, no, no.
01:04:33
meatrichards
We said it. We said it.
01:04:34
Steve-O
I'm dialing it back.
01:04:36
meatrichards
um But um the thing, I feel like there were there was like there was stuff there still that they could have gone more with.
01:04:42
DeeBo
You know what's tough? It's like every iteration of the live action stuff has gone there. So I was kind of glad to not
01:04:52
meatrichards
You kind didn't want... Yeah.
01:04:53
DeeBo
It was like, are we really going to go there again?
01:04:54
meatrichards
I mean, there was a little bit, there was a little bit but like,
01:04:56
DeeBo
A little bit, which is enough. That's enough. Like, I don't need it to be an entire B-plot.
01:04:59
Steve-O
Are you talking about like this man, this monster stuff?
01:05:01
DeeBo
Like, him being sad.
01:05:02
meatrichards
Just like, you know, where he's sad about, yeah, he's sad about being a fat boy, a fat rock boy.
01:05:07
DeeBo
Like, you know, he definitely has feelings about it, but he's like... Because, again, we're like four years in to, like, them being a thing.
01:05:14
meatrichards
But also, you know what? Maybe he doesn't have those feelings because he was in fantasy fucking Jetsons land where there nobody cares.
01:05:21
meatrichards
Nobody's racist.
01:05:22
Steve-O
Looking great, thing.
01:05:23
meatrichards
Nobody's racist. Nobody cares.
01:05:24
DeeBo
Yeah, they're like, look, good great, say the thing.
01:05:25
meatrichards
JFK was never assassinated. Actually, I don't know what the politics are, but like,
01:05:31
meatrichards
it's really like, it's, it's kind of, it's kind it kind of took me out of the movie a little bit.
01:05:32
DeeBo
He's really into it.
01:05:32
Steve-O
Oh, is this a world without a Bucky?
01:05:35
meatrichards
Cause I'm like, dude, this is like the fifties and sixties.
01:05:38
DeeBo
No, it was just because you watched Eddington 48 hours earlier than like.
01:05:43
meatrichards
yeah, that's probably it.
01:05:43
Steve-O
Dude, that's such a head rush.
01:05:45
meatrichards
yeah That's probably it, dude.
01:05:46
DeeBo
yeah Yeah, what a rollercoaster.
01:05:46
Steve-O
How the hell do you go through those two things?
01:05:48
meatrichards
Well, that's the thing. Yeah. I go from Superman to Eddington to fantastic four. And it's just like, Oh my God, it's like a rollercoaster.
01:05:53
Steve-O
That's Midsommar to Spider-Man again. You did that.
01:05:55
meatrichards
Yeah. Oh man.
01:05:57
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had some time in between. I think Pedro was good as Reed. I don't think it was bad. I don't think it was... I wouldn't say miscast.
01:06:07
DeeBo
I was like, yeah, right
01:06:09
meatrichards
must I had a problem with the mustache. couldn stop looking at it.
01:06:11
DeeBo
all right. I had problem with him constantly stroking Johnny Storm's face.
01:06:17
Steve-O
It's anxiety. Come on, man.
01:06:18
meatrichards
He was good too. fucking Eddie Munson was really good as Johnny Storm.
01:06:22
Steve-O
No idea was good?
01:06:23
DeeBo
People are mad, though.
01:06:23
meatrichards
He was really good.
01:06:24
DeeBo
People are mad that he wasn't Johnny...
01:06:25
meatrichards
e wait why are they mad?
01:06:27
DeeBo
Because they have a... They feel like Johnny should be one way, and he's not at all like that.
01:06:34
meatrichards
What do you mean one way? What does that mean?
01:06:35
DeeBo
Like, they're like, Johnny should just be, like, the goofy womanizer.
01:06:35
SuperDong
Yeah, what's it supposed to be?
01:06:40
meatrichards
Oh, I mean, kind of play with that a little bit, but like, he he's also like a fucking useful character that is actually like has
01:06:41
DeeBo
And he's, like, not... I know, but he's...
01:06:48
DeeBo
That's why I didn't mind it, because, like, they're all pretty fucking useful in this movie.
01:06:52
meatrichards
They're useful and they and he has a good like, he's got a good little subplot for his own. Of his own, I think.
01:06:58
meatrichards
And that's good.
01:06:59
meatrichards
Because usually, I don't like fucking stupid Chris Evans, Johnny Storm. I'm not a fan of that.
01:07:03
meatrichards
I don't like...
01:07:05
DeeBo
But some people are mad.
01:07:06
meatrichards
He doesn't say... Spoils, he doesn't say Flame On at all.
01:07:09
DeeBo
Fuck, you're right.
01:07:12
meatrichards
so So, is it even a real Fantastic Four movie or no?
01:07:12
DeeBo
That's a little weird.
01:07:16
SuperDong
I call him Cap.
01:07:19
meatrichards
No, I'm serious.
01:07:20
DeeBo
You don't think he's shit?
01:07:20
meatrichards
Maybe they edited it out.
01:07:22
meatrichards
No, that, yeah, they there's his little action figure does in it, but he doesn't, he never says it
01:07:28
DeeBo
Yeah. Oh, and not listen, to go against everything that like everyone has been hating about the MCU.
01:07:28
Steve-O
The action figure says it in the movie, but he doesn't.
01:07:36
DeeBo
I'm not going to lie. Part of my brain was like, oh, they should do like a a TV, seat like an animated series to show all the other adventures. That would make sense. Put it on Disney Plus.
01:07:45
DeeBo
Make a required viewing.
01:07:47
Steve-O
that would be that Don't make it required. you
01:07:48
DeeBo
No, no, but I'm saying like, you know, that's the problem, right? But my brain immediately went there.
01:07:54
Steve-O
They should do that like 1960s Marvel cartoons, like the X-Men one and the Fantastic Four one.
01:07:54
DeeBo
Oh, they should do this thing. Well, Steve, you will be you will be pleasantly pleased then because,
01:08:00
Steve-O
That'd be funny. Good.
01:08:04
Steve-O
Magneto, Master of Magnets.
01:08:06
SuperDong
I drive an electric car.
01:08:09
SuperDong
I don't need gas.
01:08:10
meatrichards
Yeah, I just kind of i kind of wish they addressed...
01:08:15
meatrichards
I was hoping i was hoping the the end, like the post-credits scene, would address what we saw in Thunderbolts, but it didn't, and that kind of disappointed me a little bit.
01:08:23
Steve-O
is that Is that Thunderbolt scene?
01:08:25
Steve-O
Because i you know keep in mind, I haven't seen it. Is that more, since it sounds like they're coming into that universe, is that going to be like they're like Captain America coming into like modern day?
01:08:38
DeeBo
But yeah, to John's point.
01:08:39
meatrichards
but they're going to be like, oh my god, you guys hate people that aren't the same color as you in this world? That's that's crazy.
01:08:44
DeeBo
Yeah, what if like Reed's just randomly like, oh, who are these people?
01:08:45
SuperDong
Well, you know, what it sounds like what it sounds like, which is a good thing, which I'm kind of happy about, is felt like the previous phase, there wasn't like a character with a through-line plot that kind of carried the whole universe.
01:08:46
meatrichards
They're going to have racism, culture shock. Racism, culture shock.
01:09:02
SuperDong
You know what i mean? Like Captain America and Iron Man.
01:09:04
meatrichards
But I think Reed is supposed to be set up for that.
01:09:07
SuperDong
that's That's what I mean. like I'm kind of happy now that they have someone like that or a group of people like that, that they can carry the plot through multiple movies of whatever big threat is.
01:09:17
meatrichards
The thing is, like could like that that's that's the other question, is well and I don't mean any offense by this, but like could the Fantastic Four, are they like strong enough as like you know as an interesting family slash team?
01:09:33
meatrichards
Are they interesting enough to to do that, to carry carried the whole MCU?
01:09:37
SuperDong
Well, I think that's what this first movie is supposed to do, right?
01:09:38
meatrichards
Do you think that they are?
01:09:41
meatrichards
I mean, the first movie, it could just stand on its own. And I think that's a good thing, is that it's like not really...
01:09:48
meatrichards
There's literally no connection to the MCU at all in this movie. At all.
01:09:51
SuperDong
But they are in the MCU, right?
01:09:56
DeeBo
Well, mean, it's a different Earth.
01:09:56
meatrichards
Yeah, because they showed the fucking ship at the end of Thunderbolts.
01:09:57
SuperDong
They're in the front. Yeah. So my theory, I mean, like, I'm just thinking like, I'm just happy there is a, there's somebody leading the ship now.
01:10:06
SuperDong
Like that, you know what I mean?
01:10:06
meatrichards
Yeah, okay, because before, I guess, yeah, because before it was supposed, like, what we were reading was it was supposed to be Black Panther.
01:10:12
meatrichards
He was supposed to be the Phase 2, like, dude, and then Tragedy Struck, which thought was horrible, but, like...
01:10:20
SuperDong
You need somebody to carry the weight of the entire plot of whatever thing you're trying to do.
01:10:24
meatrichards
But that, yeah, everything I'm reading was is that Reed is, like, the main character. He's the the main protagonist of of Doomsday.
01:10:29
Steve-O
He's the anchor being of that universe.
01:10:31
SuperDong
There you go. Like Deadpool said, there's a lot of truth that.
01:10:36
meatrichards
Yeah, because the excursion stuff, like that that stuff just happens, right? like Like, the the shit.
01:10:41
DeeBo
What, in like the secret order?
01:10:43
meatrichards
and Yeah, like, I mean, like is that a reason why they would be heading to this version of Earth?
01:10:49
DeeBo
Yeah, because they pretty much in the and in the end scene of Captain America, guys, keep up.
01:10:53
meatrichards
It's just Deadpool?
01:10:59
meatrichards
I didn't watch this and't watch that movie.
01:10:59
DeeBo
i No, that's fine. That one I understand.
01:11:03
meatrichards
I don't care either. Go ahead, go ahead.
01:11:04
DeeBo
um sent Spoilers for these a stinger in Captain America. Samuel Stearns mentions, he's like, He says something like, oh you're going to have to be prepared. And they're like, and he's like, no, for the other heroes.
01:11:17
DeeBo
So it's definitely doing the, I think he just means like the incursion of the different earths because events.
01:11:19
meatrichards
Was he hinting at the Fantastic Four? Or...
01:11:25
meatrichards
Oh, I see. Okay. Oh, yeah, because, like, they're, you know, there's, like, fucking Rebecca Romijn is in it, too, and, like...
01:11:31
DeeBo
Yeah, I mean, in so in the comics, in that Secret Wars comics, the incursions keep happening until there's two universes left. And then basically, because because they're like, the top time as we know it is ending.
01:11:45
DeeBo
And then, you know, they they collide, the two last Earths collide, everything goes white, and then you have the Doom planet, that Doom...
01:11:53
SuperDong
He pulls together pieces that he he wants.
01:11:54
DeeBo
Fuck, by force, by his own force of fucking will that makes Doom the best, ah creates, like, Doomworld, and it's the sickest shit ever.
01:11:59
SuperDong
Yeah, he's awesome, isn't he?
01:12:04
DeeBo
ah And then, yeah, and I was like...
01:12:06
meatrichards
Well, isn't that the isn't that the art, the concept art they were showing too? This Doomworld shit?
01:12:09
DeeBo
Yeah, I mean, it's...
01:12:11
DeeBo
it's But, like, Doomworld should be its own phase. You know, that's a sick Doomworld.
01:12:16
SuperDong
Yeah, it is pretty cool.
01:12:17
DeeBo
um It won't be. It'll just be smashed in like a movie and a half. But I'm just saying, in the comics, it was so good, I felt like I could stop reading superhero comics.
01:12:28
DeeBo
like I was like, this could be the end of Marvel Comics, and it would be fitting. And loved it. And then I kept reading. And then eventually I needed to take like a six-year break.
01:12:41
DeeBo
Which is kind of what happened to some extent with the MCU, with a lot of people.
01:12:45
meatrichards
I just... Dude, you know what really... You know what really, like, fucking kills the wind in my sails with all this stuff?
01:12:51
meatrichards
Still? It's just the fact that Robert Downey Jr. is doctor to him. Like, every time I think about it, I get... I get upset because I'm like, this is... Unless they really...
01:12:58
DeeBo
it's tough man i mean it's tough because of like they could go they could go oh it's just him for this earth uh it is
01:12:59
meatrichards
This really is an $80 million dollars misdirect that they're doing. And that's it's not really him.
01:13:11
meatrichards
But that's still... It's still...
01:13:12
DeeBo
I think the latest rumor that I read that made me hate it even more was that his name's not even โ or no, his name is Doom, but he's his he's not even Scarred.
01:13:13
meatrichards
Like the the logistics of it.
01:13:24
DeeBo
It's just Tony Stark in Latveria. And I was like, ew.
01:13:29
DeeBo
That's a rumor, right? But I'm just like, don't i don't i don't want Tony Stark in Green Cape.
01:13:32
SuperDong
ah Devin, don't you understand?
01:13:36
SuperDong
Devin, it's so simple.
01:13:38
SuperDong
Howard Stark had another child, but he died and he adopted a young boy from Latveria.
01:13:42
meatrichards
Yeah, Billy Stark. It's Billy Stark.
01:13:44
SuperDong
His name, his real name, Victor Von Doom, was hidden from him and he changed it to Anthony Stark.
01:13:50
SuperDong
And he grew him to be the smartest man alive with evil experiments.
01:13:55
meatrichards
it just see It just seems like a fucking cop-out of a casting.
01:13:58
meatrichards
Like, they needed they needed their crutch. That's just what it feels like.
01:14:01
DeeBo
And, and it's, but it's also tough to stomach.
01:14:02
meatrichards
That's why that's why that's why i hate it. like i can't i don't like it.
01:14:06
DeeBo
Cause you're like, well, it's, uh, Robert Downey jr. That's not fresh off an Oscar win.
01:14:13
SuperDong
but Academy, yeah I was going to say Academy Award winner, Robert Downey Jr.
01:14:14
DeeBo
Uh, Yeah, Russo Brothers, Avengers, Big But. Like, this all worked last time, and I'm not saying it's guarantee, but it's hard for me to be like, this is going to fail because everything's telling me...
01:14:26
SuperDong
Oh, yeah. Russo Brothers, directors of the Electric State are making this.
01:14:32
DeeBo
You shut your fucking... No, that's fine. That's acceptable. Acceptable. But again, it's...
01:14:36
meatrichards
it just it just feels so It just feels so forced, and it's like, i don't know.
01:14:41
meatrichards
I don't know, man. I just don't like it.
01:14:44
DeeBo
Well, hey, at least Feige's finally admitting that he's like, we are going have recast this shit at some point.
01:14:50
DeeBo
I never liked that he was...
01:14:50
meatrichards
Well, that's what they were saying.
01:14:51
meatrichards
is like he saw he watched He watched Superman and was like, oh, we gotta reboot. we need our We need our big guns back.
01:14:57
DeeBo
I just, I never liked that he was like so against it.
01:14:57
meatrichards
Like, that's... but
01:14:59
DeeBo
I'm like, bro, you're going to do it. It's going to happen.
01:15:05
DeeBo
It's just a shut up.
01:15:06
meatrichards
I just... don't know.
01:15:07
DeeBo
So anyway, ah Fantastic Four, good sit.
01:15:12
DeeBo
I can't say it's a marriage.
01:15:12
meatrichards
Yeah, I really...
01:15:13
meatrichards
Yeah, I liked it. Yeah, I can't say it's mirror.
01:15:16
DeeBo
Yeah. However, did make a little bit more money than Superman did.
01:15:21
meatrichards
ah Not on...
01:15:22
meatrichards
No, on opening... On the first day it did, but the...
01:15:25
DeeBo
No, no, no. It beat it by a million dollars.
01:15:28
meatrichards
On the opening day, but ah for the weekend.
01:15:29
DeeBo
No, no, no, no. The opening weekend, it made a million dollars more.
01:15:31
meatrichards
Opening weekend...
01:15:33
DeeBo
Right. Pretty sure.
01:15:34
meatrichards
No, it made like $2 million dollars less or some shit.
01:15:38
meatrichards
They said that Superman is the number one comic book movie opening weekend, 2025.
01:15:42
DeeBo
two sixteen Let's look it up. So fantastic.
01:15:44
SuperDong
ah Steve, you wanted my review? i give it a light fuck because I didn't see Galactus take a big shit.
01:15:49
Steve-O
Oh my God. Just a whole planet's worth poop.
01:15:52
meatrichards
Oh, he may have been taking a shit in one of the scenes. Just saying.
01:15:58
meatrichards
ah You gotta watch it to find out.
01:16:00
SuperDong
ah it Come on. You gotta give me that at least.
01:16:02
meatrichards
I'm just saying.
01:16:04
SuperDong
God damn it. I want to see take a huge shit.
01:16:09
SuperDong
Like on a giant toilet.
01:16:10
meatrichards
I'm just saying.
01:16:11
SuperDong
Alright. Alright. Okay.
01:16:13
meatrichards
Yeah, ah Superman.
01:16:15
DeeBo
Oh, yeah, John. Let's see. 220 global.
01:16:19
meatrichards
Who was right? For Superman?
01:16:20
DeeBo
with With actuals. Here it is. Monday update with actuals. DC water. super
01:16:25
meatrichards
But it adjusted for inflation first, please.
01:16:28
DeeBo
What was how much was it? Two weeks ago. 220 million global start. No, John, you are correct. 216. 216.
01:16:36
meatrichards
It's just it's just by a little bit, though.
01:16:39
meatrichards
Yeah, it was literally just a little bit.
01:16:40
SuperDong
Did not do well in China, though.
01:16:43
meatrichards
I thought, yeah, I thought that at least Fantastic Four would do better than Superman in China, just because Superman is literally an American flag flying around.
01:16:49
DeeBo
yeah i don't know what the let's see how much is it making china uh made four mil okay that was it uh also fantastic four hour 55.
01:16:57
meatrichards
But ah Fantastic Four did have the better opening night. But the weekend, Superman won.
01:17:05
meatrichards
It was a tight, it was a tight, it was a good, yeah.
01:17:06
DeeBo
little movie yeah no yeah know yes see john here chris how you feeling now chris huh
01:17:09
meatrichards
Yeah. Yeah, Chris, it wasn't that bad.
01:17:10
Steve-O
Hey, shorter than copycat.
01:17:13
SuperDong
You were a copycat. It's a nice little breezy little easy breezy.
01:17:17
meatrichards
You could have went, Chris. You could have went with me.
01:17:19
DeeBo
We couldn't win. Chris was like, no, I wanted to...
01:17:20
meatrichards
We could have fucking, we could have laughed at the most ridiculous parts and and made people.
01:17:23
SuperDong
I was sitting in a big mud pit like
01:17:24
DeeBo
Dude, he was mid-goon sesh. He was like, I'm not...
01:17:29
meatrichards
Yeah, fucking dokes.
01:17:30
meatrichards
I should have just said, up I should have just said the dokes, the dokes image next time.
01:17:30
SuperDong
i was I was sitting in my big vat of my big vat of mud like Baron Harkonnen and darken it.
01:17:31
DeeBo
He just suddenly dumps me in.
01:17:35
meatrichards
Next time you say, oh, I'm tired.
01:17:39
meatrichards
I'm tired. He's sitting is ah in his Banandium rot, Steve.
01:17:43
Steve-O
Oh, not the Banandium rot, dude.
01:17:44
meatrichards
That's what he was sitting in.
01:17:48
meatrichards
Oh, yeah. Steve and I also completed Donkey Kong.
01:17:51
Steve-O
We ran credits twice on Donkey Kong.
01:17:54
meatrichards
Oh, you did it?
01:17:55
SuperDong
You beat it twice?
01:17:55
meatrichards
You did the did this rest of the stuff?
01:17:56
Steve-O
No, yeah I didn't do the challenges. I didn't do the challenges.
01:17:58
SuperDong
Oh, Jesus Christ.
01:17:59
Steve-O
But you know what I'm talking about.
01:18:00
Steve-O
You know what I'm talking
01:18:00
meatrichards
but they do They do give a... There is another credits after you finish all that stuff. Just let you know that.
01:18:04
Steve-O
about. Oh, okay. Okay.
01:18:06
meatrichards
Yeah, so, you know.
01:18:06
Steve-O
but so So you ran it thrice then.
01:18:08
meatrichards
You're not quite done yet.
01:18:09
Steve-O
You ran it thrice.
01:18:10
meatrichards
You're not quite done yet. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
01:18:13
Steve-O
It's a fucking...
01:18:13
meatrichards
Yeah, because they... Yeah, spoilers. ah What do you want to say, Steve? Like, tell me. What was better? Claire Obscura or this?
01:18:21
Steve-O
ah Dude, I can't tell you until the end of the year.
01:18:22
meatrichards
Tell me right now. No, no, no, no.
01:18:23
Steve-O
No, no, no, no, You want me to just give away anti-fannies for free?
01:18:24
meatrichards
You got to tell me right now.
01:18:29
meatrichards
I was just saying.
01:18:29
DeeBo
Yeah, man, I know what exactly what that says.
01:18:32
meatrichards
Well, David, I was telling Steve that, like, this might be a God of War Elden Ring type situation for me when I play clear obscure because right now I can't see anything in the world ever beating Donkey Kong in general even in a fight I can't even see Kratos beating him in a fight let alone let alone winning game of the year no david want I think Donkey Kong I'm not memeing Devin I really Donkey Kong would rip Kratos in half Donkey Kong would literally rip Kratos in half
01:18:47
DeeBo
see Yeah, I was like, you what, I'm not even going to entertain this because I don't.
01:18:52
Steve-O
in terms of In terms of the ultimate power level, it is hands down Donkey Kong.
01:18:58
DeeBo
No, no, I know, but I was just like, I don't know enough about this game.
01:19:05
Steve-O
i am I am blown away with what this Donkey Kong can do.
01:19:09
Steve-O
ah this is This is the thing I need to say about this game. After having finished it, Nintendo...
01:19:14
meatrichards
Can Kratos even take the floor off of him?
01:19:17
meatrichards
Can he can even rip the ground up? I don't think he can.
01:19:19
DeeBo
he li ah He literally does that when he goes and says, you know, I don't want to, I'm not getting baited into this.
01:19:20
meatrichards
he's not He's not even strong enough to...
01:19:24
Steve-O
Hey, he throws an axe. He throws an axe.
01:19:25
DeeBo
Steve, Steve, what were you saying?
01:19:27
DeeBo
What were you saying, Steve?
01:19:28
Steve-O
I was going to say nintendo Nintendo has made the best e Sonic game with this game.
01:19:34
Steve-O
And I know that sounds wild.
01:19:34
meatrichards
It feels like that. yeah it feels like that. i think you're right.
01:19:38
Steve-O
His movement, being able to just roll and just get anywhere you need to go.
01:19:38
meatrichards
It feels like that.
01:19:43
Steve-O
Like, by the end of the game, I'm like, damn, this is incredible. You know, it takes everything that, ah I would say it's more inspired by like Tears of the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild with Mario Odyssey.
01:19:54
meatrichards
then then Mario Odyssey, yeah, i would say so i would say so I would say I agree completely with that.
01:19:59
meatrichards
That's what I tell people. I'm like, yeah, it's the Odyssey team, but like, you'd be surprised. like there's a There's a lot more Breath of the Wild in this game than there is Mario Odyssey, I would say, which is really interesting.
01:20:10
Steve-O
It's a so addicting. It's so good. It's the reason to buy a Switch 2. Like...
01:20:15
meatrichards
It's the reason to wake up in the morning, I feel like. like Somebody posted a picture of of just the game box, and it just said, don't kill yourself. And it's like, you know what?
01:20:26
meatrichards
Yeah, that's like, this is the best best message for this.
01:20:29
meatrichards
It's like, you got this game.
01:20:30
Steve-O
The ultimate day is go watch Superman and then afterwards go play Donkey Kong Bonanza.
01:20:37
meatrichards
Well, that's big dude that's basically what happened. like Because we watched Superman.
01:20:40
SuperDong
No, I'm going to play Claire Obscura and watch Eddington. I'm going to play Claire Obscura.
01:20:45
Steve-O
That's the second, that's the second.
01:20:46
SuperDong
What's wrong with that?
01:20:47
meatrichards
No! No, don't do it!
01:20:48
Steve-O
There's two paths you could take.
01:20:49
SuperDong
Is there problem?
01:20:50
Steve-O
that's that. 100% that. How this happen to me? yes
01:20:54
meatrichards
Chris going to post the clear obscure box on Twitter that just says kill yourself. And it's just clear, clear, clear.
01:21:03
meatrichards
Nah, but it's like... Dude, like... but and I hate to say this again, but like... Before I watched Eddington, i was pretty riding high on the fucking... Like the so fucking serotonin rollercoaster for a while.
01:21:17
meatrichards
Because we we had Superman. And then we had... I watched Superman again. And then... ah few days later, after like after just fucking jacking off to Superman, Donkey Kong came out.
01:21:28
meatrichards
And it was like fucking... It's just like, i don't know, was just a couple weeks of pure joy, I think.
01:21:34
meatrichards
Which is like pretty pretty awesome. And then Eddington came out and basically... Well, not that, we we also you know went to the shore for Chris's birthday too, which was also riding high.
01:21:46
SuperDong
$30 later? got another $30 to take that.
01:21:47
meatrichards
Would have been better if Chris won that game PC in the claw machine, but he didn't.
01:21:53
meatrichards
and would have been That would have been peak, I think.
01:21:56
SuperDong
thirty dollars later i got another thirty dollars
01:21:59
meatrichards
then And then a couple couple days later, I'm reminded of how dark and and twisted the world is with Eddington. So, you know.
01:22:06
Steve-O
Thanks, Ari. Thanks, buddy.
01:22:08
meatrichards
And then find Fantastic Four tried but failed to lift me back up.
01:22:14
Steve-O
Because you didn't get your chin stroked by Pedro. That would have changed your whole view on life.
01:22:19
meatrichards
i didn't have it I didn't have enough anxiety to do that.
01:22:22
Steve-O
But yeah, like that is like.
01:22:25
meatrichards
Dude, I don't know. Steve, i don't know, man. Is this the was this the best final boss sequence in a Nintendo game you ever played? I'm trying to think of something that tops it.
01:22:32
DeeBo
I mean, i feel like the last one you were really yeah like really crazy about was Tears of the Kingdom.
01:22:38
Steve-O
It's up there. Like.
01:22:39
meatrichards
Yeah, but I think this beats the game.
01:22:42
meatrichards
mean, I don't know, a dude, because I...
01:22:43
Steve-O
like the climax of this game is like you are at the edge of your seat for like, I would say a Kojima length of time, but it's not cut scenes. You're actually playing and going through it.
01:22:52
meatrichards
Dude, I literally screamed, but I also screamed when... When fucking Demon King Ganondorf's life bar kept going up towards the edge of the screen. Like that was like fucking canon event for me too.
01:23:05
meatrichards
Ah man. I don't know dude.
01:23:07
Steve-O
again, i only have those two nitpicks that I mentioned on the discord one.
01:23:11
meatrichards
Those aren't even real complaints Steve.
01:23:12
Steve-O
They're not even real. Throw in salt at fossils when they're in like muck.
01:23:15
meatrichards
I mean. the one if you If you were to gun to my head.
01:23:19
meatrichards
Ask me to find something bad about the game. Or not optimal about the game. I would say that like it not like it's I don't want to say it's too easy, but like the the helping stuff that they give you, even when not in assisted mode, it's kind of... like The fact that you could just fucking rack up balloons and they just save you from dying every time is kind of... like if I feel like maybe if it would be frustrating if you fell off a bunch of times and died and had to start over, but like like that made it a little easy.
01:23:50
meatrichards
um There was the one thing... Like, so oh wait, you didn't do you didn't do all the post-game stuff yet, right?
01:23:56
Steve-O
no I'm working on I'm working on it
01:23:58
meatrichards
Like, there was this really just really easy cheese of the in and what's supposed to be the hardest part of the game, like the dark side of the moon thing.
01:24:06
Steve-O
okay i did um I did the first elders one
01:24:07
meatrichards
Like, I discovered a little bit of a cheese. Okay. Yeah, those get... Dude, those get... guitar So you did the Kong one? The...
01:24:19
meatrichards
Some of those are fucking toxic, dude. like i was i actually got mad I actually got mad playing a little bit of it.
01:24:21
Steve-O
You know, it's it's very interesting seeing people who first start off the game and they're like, this game's really easy baby mode, isn't it?
01:24:31
Steve-O
And then, because like later on, like when you get deep into the game, you're like, oh shit.
01:24:31
meatrichards
That stuff ah stuff's tough. Yeah. Right.
01:24:38
Steve-O
like I don't even remember baby mode. like I remember it, but it was like so long ago.
01:24:43
Steve-O
like Now they're asking me to do some like button perfect precision inputs.
01:24:45
DeeBo
Well, how does this compare to some of the, like the dark side of the moon Odyssey?
01:24:49
meatrichards
Well, I was going to say that it doesn't it's not even close. The Dark Side of the Moon stuff in Odyssey is like, like I was talking to...
01:24:55
DeeBo
I remember I tried some of that and I was like, no, not for me.
01:24:58
DeeBo
Like I just put it down.
01:24:58
meatrichards
No, I was talking to somebody.
01:25:00
meatrichards
i was talking to Paul. Or maybe my cousin. I was like, there were times where I remember I could hear the plastic flexing in my Nintendo Switch to Joy-Cons.
01:25:09
Steve-O
Oh, you're bending it.
01:25:11
meatrichards
Because I was getting so angry. Because there there are parts in Dark Side of the Moon that just feel flat out unfair.
01:25:19
meatrichards
Where like I feel like i had to to use the fucking amiibo to get couple extra points of health just to have a shot at beating it.
01:25:27
meatrichards
So like like that's it's not that hard. Even the Mario Wonder post-game stuff is harder, I think, than this, I would say.
01:25:36
meatrichards
But I mean, there's still stuff that's like fucking toxic, though, in the in the the stuff that you're you're about to do, Steve.
01:25:41
Steve-O
there's There's some things that made me feel real stupid. And I was like, oh, fucking right. Just with the amount of like control and maneuverability Donkey Kong has, there's a part where they wanted me to be to like pop up like the little explodey enemies to hit the moles that were like hanging upside down.
01:25:58
Steve-O
i was like, how the fuck do I do this? And I'm punching them, I'm punching them. And then I like walk backwards and like the little ah the little monkey's like, ah you know you could uppercut people, remember? And I'm like, oh, duh, duh.
01:26:11
meatrichards
Yeah, there there were there were a couple times where like I'm trying to play the game like Mario and like as a true platformer, and And I'm failing at at it.
01:26:23
meatrichards
And then I'm like, oh shit, like Drake, like computer meme. Like, and then I'm like, oh, I could just, I could just go do Kong Bonanza and just punch my way through this entire thing.
01:26:33
meatrichards
And it's pretty cool. But also like, that kind of shifts me back towards, like, I think Mario Odyssey is just maybe slightly better still than this. Cause like, you know, I, even though like a lot, a lot of people's complaints with that game moons are just like in the, in the ground somewhere. And like,
01:26:49
meatrichards
just hanging out but like at the same time it's like you get to the nitty gritty platforming stuff in that game like you could feel like a fucking like like when my co-worker son called called me on microsoft teams on a saturday morning to help him through a mario odyssey thing and i was showing like i was just like showing him like running around and his fucking jaw dropped because like i was like running around like a fucking like a fucking like god like triple jumping long jumping like
01:27:19
meatrichards
He's I didn't know you could you could ah you could do the ground pound into the hat and then jump off that.
01:27:23
DeeBo
you're like, yeah, that's because you're 12.
01:27:24
meatrichards
I'm like, bro!
01:27:25
Steve-O
You're blowing his mind. Yeah.
01:27:26
meatrichards
I'm like, yeah, that's because you're fucking eight years old and I'm an adult. so And he was like, shoot you like and now I was known as the Mario guy at work functions after that.
01:27:35
Steve-O
Nothing wrong to be known for.
01:27:35
meatrichards
It was pretty funny.
01:27:37
Steve-O
That's a pretty good thing to be known for.
01:27:37
meatrichards
But yeah, like, yeah, so I mean, I go back and forth. I think a lot of reason to see bias is like, right now, is like people are saying that Bonanza's better, but I think we're gonna, you know, I think I think when the dust settles, I think Mario Odyssey is going to be my favorite game.
01:27:48
Steve-O
I, John, i think it's I think it's going to be a hereditary Midsommar comparison.
01:27:49
DeeBo
As a country, we're going to come back to the light.
01:27:55
meatrichards
Oh yeah, 1A, 1B maybe?
01:27:57
Steve-O
I think 1A, 1B. You're going to be one banana.
01:27:58
meatrichards
I'll tell you this though, like, dude, the fucking, this game, I did not, like, I expect, all I usually almost always expect, like, with Zelda and Mario games at least, like, I expect to get emotional because of nostalgia, right?
01:28:13
meatrichards
I do have a little bit of nostalgia for Donkey Kong, but like, it didn't, as much as I loved Donkey Kong Country as a kid, it never meant nearly enough to me as a kid to have nostalgia for that, right?
01:28:26
meatrichards
This game put me through the fucking ringer, dude. Like, I was, like, fucking crying at the end. was just like, oh my god, like, why am I crying at this game?
01:28:37
meatrichards
And, like, it's really just like, you know, they just did a... I think it's because they just did a really good job with the production value of the game.
01:28:44
meatrichards
Like, like the the the song Like, that's literally, like, fucking, like, Disney, Disney, top-tier Disney shit. Like, the music and the songs and shit, like...
01:28:53
Steve-O
Playing this, I can 100% see them just like taking this story and turning it into a Donkey Kong movie.
01:29:00
meatrichards
Pauline's a fucking staple now, dude.
01:29:02
meatrichards
Is she the best comeback in in Nintendo history?
01:29:07
meatrichards
Because, like...
01:29:07
Steve-O
It has to be. Mm-hmm.
01:29:09
meatrichards
I mean, besides somebody else's comeback, but, like... But no, but I mean, like, real talk, like, Pauline was ah completely forgotten character for, like, basically 50 years.
01:29:22
Steve-O
Yeah, Pauline was just like the little like...
01:29:24
meatrichards
Or no, I even want to say 50 years. When did Donkey Kong come Like, 1980?
01:29:29
meatrichards
Oh, maybe, maybe 50 years. Yeah, maybe 30, 40 years. Yeah, like, completely forgotten forever. And then they just put her in she She's the mayor of the human weird human town in Super Mario Odyssey.
01:29:42
meatrichards
And now she's like fucking like making me tear up for just singing.
01:29:45
Steve-O
John, can I ask you a weird question?
01:29:47
meatrichards
Yeah, go ahead.
01:29:48
Steve-O
Is the Pauline and Bonanza the same Pauline?
01:29:51
meatrichards
I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I think this is a prequel to Super Mario Odyssey at least.
01:29:54
Steve-O
Okay. all right. Because there's a lot of times where they talk about like Pauline talks about her grandma. Is the grandma the Pauline that was in the OG Donkey Kong arcade game?
01:30:01
meatrichards
Yeah, i I don't know. Oh, maybe i don't know. Why would they just name them Pauline all the time, though?
01:30:11
Steve-O
don't know. My name is Steve. My dad's name is Steve.
01:30:15
SuperDong
I'm going call you Steve-een.
01:30:16
DeeBo
Is your grandfather famous to you?
01:30:19
meatrichards
Dude, when's Pauline...
01:30:19
meatrichards
once Pauline doesn't even have her own fucking Mario Kart. Like, what the fuck is that?
01:30:24
meatrichards
That's gonna change, right?
01:30:25
Steve-O
Dude, they have to do do some DLC for World.
01:30:27
meatrichards
but she she Does she pass Rosalina? Is she over Rosalina now?
01:30:32
Steve-O
They both have the same amount of games.
01:30:36
meatrichards
Rosalina... She doesn't sing. She doesn't have those pipes, though.
01:30:39
Steve-O
Galaxy 1, Galaxy. She's got that sad-ass story that she tells you, though.
01:30:42
meatrichards
ah She does. But, dude, Pauline is like...
01:30:45
Steve-O
Pauline's got a sad story, too, a little bit.
01:30:47
meatrichards
Yeah, Pauline also...
01:30:47
DeeBo
He's a fucking rock. That's not sad.
01:30:49
meatrichards
Pauline is...
01:30:49
Steve-O
Got kidnapped. Got kidnapped, Devin.
01:30:52
meatrichards
Pauline also is like kind of like Bo Jackson, where she excels in two different sports, Mario and Donkey Kong, like baseball and football.
01:31:02
meatrichards
whereas Whereas Rosalina is just good at baseball.
01:31:05
meatrichards
so i mean i might i might give that just Pauline. I do like Rosalina, though.
01:31:11
DeeBo
ah So I just looked it up. I'm shocked. ah Apparently there's no, I thought Metro Prime 4 had a release date.
01:31:19
Steve-O
I thought so too. I thought it was supposed to come out this year.
01:31:21
meatrichards
they They announced the Direct, though, like for like in a couple days or something.
01:31:25
Steve-O
Oh, we're going to get more dirt.
01:31:26
meatrichards
so think said There's a Nintendo Direct coming up.
01:31:27
DeeBo
Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's pretty nasty cadence that Nintendo has right now.
01:31:32
DeeBo
They're like, oh, here's, here's a Nintendo direct for the banger game.
01:31:33
meatrichards
Thursday. Thursday. Dude, what
01:31:37
DeeBo
Here's then we're going to announce another Nintendo direct for another banger game.
01:31:39
Steve-O
Banger game. Pokemon announced their Banger game coming out in October.
01:31:43
DeeBo
Yeah, and now there's going to be another direct, about probably about Metroid Prime 4, with a date.
01:31:44
meatrichards
dude what if what if the dude
01:31:48
meatrichards
Now, you know what I'm expecting Metroid Prime 4 to get the way just because ah that's just been my luck this year.
01:31:53
Steve-O
We've been waiting, John. We've been waiting since we did a Fantastic Four review in 2019 that Chris doesn't remember.
01:31:58
meatrichards
Listen, man.
01:31:59
meatrichards
Dude, Metroid Prime 4, they need to have an elephant suit for Samus now. I think that's just got to be the ah motif.
01:32:04
Steve-O
No, dude, somebody at Nintendo has a fucking boner for elephants.
01:32:08
meatrichards
It's crazy, dude.
01:32:10
Steve-O
They love elephants.
01:32:11
SuperDong
who doesn't love elephants elephants are great see them at the zoo that's like the when you
01:32:11
meatrichards
ah need an out I need an elephant suit now.
01:32:16
meatrichards
Dude, and the l the elephant in this game I think is like kind of breaks the game a little bit.
01:32:19
Steve-O
It's the it's the best conganza.
01:32:21
meatrichards
it's it's it's
01:32:23
meatrichards
i'm waiting I'm waiting for the Radon patch to come in and fucking nerf the elephant.
01:32:23
SuperDong
what what's the one thing you want to see at a zoo Like, I'm serious. I'm asking a serious question.
01:32:30
Steve-O
Ooh, I want to see the tigers and lions.
01:32:30
SuperDong
Like, you go to a zoo, sees the tigers.
01:32:32
meatrichards
Tigers, lions, yeah.
01:32:34
Steve-O
But I want to see the elephants and I want to see giraffes too.
01:32:37
meatrichards
Giraffes, yeah. Giraffes are pretty top tier.
01:32:38
SuperDong
Giraffes are probably second for me, but elephant elephants are up there.
01:32:42
Steve-O
I don't want to see the orangutan because when you look into an orangutan's eyes, you just see ah you just see a person's eyes.
01:32:46
SuperDong
Yeah, it's rough.
01:32:49
SuperDong
It's a person in a suit.
01:32:50
Steve-O
And it makes you feel so bad because they feel so they look so sad.
01:32:56
Steve-O
Flamingos stink. They literally smell.
01:32:58
SuperDong
I like, to be honest, my number one is polar bears when they're there.
01:32:59
meatrichards
Steve, do you like...
01:33:02
Steve-O
Polar bear. That's a great one.
01:33:03
SuperDong
i love polar bears.
01:33:03
Steve-O
That's a fantastic.
01:33:03
meatrichards
Polar bears are great, yeah. So Steve, ah do you prefer this design of Donkey Kong over the classic Donkey Kong Country design? That's what I'm struggling with right now.
01:33:13
Steve-O
um This game has made me like it more.
01:33:16
meatrichards
Okay, alright.
01:33:17
Steve-O
He is so expressive and he's so silly looking.
01:33:21
meatrichards
I think that's part of what made me a little emotional too, is just like... Because he doesn't say anything. So like, when he makes a face...
01:33:29
meatrichards
and it like there's some emotion behind it, I like i get a little...
01:33:32
Steve-O
He emotes really good.
01:33:32
meatrichards
like it's like it's like it's like It's like amplified for me, you know?
01:33:36
Steve-O
When Donkey Kong wants bananas, you really feel it.
01:33:41
meatrichards
You really do. You really
01:33:43
Steve-O
It's not even a fucking joke, man.
01:33:44
meatrichards
Dude, Donkey Kong...
01:33:45
Steve-O
It's not even a fucking joke, but it is.
01:33:45
meatrichards
Dude, all I'm saying is the next Smash Bros. game, that Donkey Kong is going to be going to be like...
01:33:53
meatrichards
That's going be like...
01:33:53
Steve-O
They're going to do what they did with ah Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild.
01:33:56
meatrichards
that's gonna be like um Omega level Donkey Kong is going to be in... Because this is the new Donkey Kong now.
01:34:02
SuperDong
Does he have windup?
01:34:04
meatrichards
Yeah, mean, he basically has a fucking Falcon Punch now.
01:34:07
meatrichards
So it's like he's still...
01:34:08
meatrichards
They basically... it's It's almost like they gave him that punch... from so From Smash Bros. So they gave it to him in this game.
01:34:17
Steve-O
oh dude kong and uh kong bonanza wind up punch dude it yeah it literally shoots like a fucking like projectile it's incredible it's if you just like breaking shit and not giving a fuck like put on some put on some limp biscuit break stuff play donkey kong bonanza you're gonna have the best day ever
01:34:20
meatrichards
Yeah, the Super Saiyan fucking Super Punch...
01:34:26
meatrichards
This game so good. This game is so amazing, I can't.
01:34:35
SuperDong
Limp Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit. Limp
01:34:41
meatrichards
Yeah, Devin, did you...
01:34:41
SuperDong
Limp Limp Bizkit.
01:34:42
meatrichards
i mean, I caught up with most of the with most of the donkey anki videos.
01:34:42
SuperDong
Limp Bizkit. Bizkit. Bizkit. Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit. Limp
01:34:49
meatrichards
Devin, did you see...
01:34:49
SuperDong
Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit.
01:34:49
meatrichards
dain did you see i was he dead?
01:34:50
SuperDong
Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit.
01:34:51
meatrichards
Is he pooping?
01:34:51
Steve-O
we've been talking We've been talking about Nintendo too much.
01:34:51
SuperDong
Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit. Bizkit.
01:34:53
SuperDong
Limp Bizkit. Limp Limp Bizkit.
01:34:59
meatrichards
He went out for a cigarette.
01:35:01
meatrichards
Did you see...
01:35:01
DeeBo
i said they're going to be talking about this for the next 25 minutes.
01:35:01
meatrichards
it Yeah, Devin, did you see...
01:35:04
meatrichards
Devin, did you see do you see...
01:35:07
meatrichards
Donkey made the Wu-Chang video, but then like eight minutes...
01:35:08
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah. they just turns
01:35:10
meatrichards
Eight minutes in, he remembered Donkey Kong was out. And the rest of the video is just him playing Donkey Kong. Dude, he might he might put out 50 Donkey videos.
01:35:21
Steve-O
He said he was gonna.
01:35:24
SuperDong
Devin, I asked i asked a group a question of the group. I want to know your answer.
01:35:29
SuperDong
When you go to the zoo, what's the first attraction or the most the one you're most excited about seeing?
01:35:33
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah. That's what you guys were talking about that. and i was like, this is a good time for me to go pee.
01:35:39
SuperDong
want to know, damn it. What are you afraid?
01:35:41
SuperDong
You're going to say snakes because you like to talk to them like Harry Potter?
01:35:43
Steve-O
Oh, you know the reptile exhibit first, Evan?
01:35:46
DeeBo
I'll be honest. Like, I don't know. I would say. Truthfully, like this is very specific because I don't think we have these in the Philadelphia Zoo.
01:35:57
DeeBo
And if we do, I would probably go and see it. But I would see the yeah I'd see the gorillas.
01:36:04
SuperDong
You're a gorilla man.
01:36:05
meatrichards
We don't have any gorillas?
01:36:05
Steve-O
That's fair. Hey, that's fair.
01:36:06
DeeBo
yeah Are there gorillas in the zoo, in the Philly Zoo?
01:36:07
SuperDong
He's a gorilla man. I think so. Yeah.
01:36:09
Steve-O
Yeah, they're a staple.
01:36:11
Steve-O
You got to have the gorillas at the zoo.
01:36:12
meatrichards
i usually I usually go to the Cape May Zoo because it's like free and you don't have to deal with city parking.
01:36:16
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah, don't have to deal with this city. Which is totally acceptable. um
01:36:23
Steve-O
they let They let me touch a snake at the Houston Zoo.
01:36:27
meatrichards
What kind of snake was it?
01:36:28
Steve-O
It was like a giant anaconda. It was like a 20-footer. Anaconda?
01:36:31
SuperDong
Was the guy can keep saying like, don't tell anybody.
01:36:32
meatrichards
Dude, there's...
01:36:34
SuperDong
Hmm. Yeah. That's
01:36:36
Steve-O
he he was He was taking the snake from the one back like section and they were in front of the, strangely enough, the gorilla exhibit.
01:36:45
Steve-O
And we were like, whoa, whoa.
01:36:47
Steve-O
And he was like, you want you want to touch it? And then he went...
01:36:51
DeeBo
wait what you do yo Wait, what did a what did ah what did you guys say?
01:36:52
Steve-O
And we just found out he didn't work at the zoo.
01:36:53
meatrichards
Wait, he let you he let you he let you touch his snake?
01:36:54
Steve-O
Just some snake guy.
01:36:54
SuperDong
what I was thinking. Whoa.
01:36:59
Steve-O
You know what, John?
01:37:01
SuperDong
That's Houston for you.
01:37:02
Steve-O
I'm beating on my chest until I conganze all over you.
01:37:03
meatrichards
I'm just saying.
01:37:12
Steve-O
I said, like, tigers, lions.
01:37:15
SuperDong
I said polar bears, but elephants are my second.
01:37:18
DeeBo
Elephants are my second.
01:37:20
SuperDong
I love elephants.
01:37:21
Steve-O
Toucan. Interesting. Interesting.
01:37:22
DeeBo
If I had a lot of money, I would donate a lot to Elephant Sanctuary. I love Elephants.
01:37:29
SuperDong
Me too. They're lovely animals, aren't they?
01:37:31
meatrichards
See? See, Devin? You would love Donkey Kong.
01:37:33
DeeBo
I never said I wouldn't.
01:37:36
DeeBo
I never thought I wouldn't. In fact, I was like, oh, I'd be, I'm too down with that.
01:37:40
meatrichards
Actually, you know what? You know what my my zoo animal really is every year? I always make a point to see the copybaras.
01:37:46
meatrichards
I love copybaras.
01:37:46
Steve-O
a They are the ultimate support animal.
01:37:48
meatrichards
I really love those guys.
01:37:48
SuperDong
What about the copybarra?
01:37:52
meatrichards
What'd you say, Chris?
01:37:53
SuperDong
what what What draws you to the copybarra?
01:37:55
meatrichards
They're just cute. They're chill. They don't give a fuck.
01:37:57
DeeBo
You know what's funny?
01:37:58
Steve-O
They're so chill.
01:37:58
meatrichards
They're just there.
01:37:59
Steve-O
They will hang out with any animal you put them with and they will just be like the best buddies.
01:38:01
meatrichards
Yeah, they're cool.
01:38:01
DeeBo
i don't... I'm not going lie. i think they're kind of ugly.
01:38:06
meatrichards
I think you're kind of ugly.
01:38:07
meatrichards
How about that?
01:38:08
DeeBo
That's acceptable. I just...
01:38:09
SuperDong
i Yeah, they are adorable. looking for that.
01:38:11
Steve-O
Here's the thing though, Devin.
01:38:12
meatrichards
How could you call this thing ugly, dude?
01:38:13
Steve-O
A capybara would just like hang out with your dog and they would just like do cool guy shit.
01:38:14
meatrichards
What the fuck is wrong with you?
01:38:18
DeeBo
I think it's just because like they seem like they are not fun to touch.
01:38:19
meatrichards
Yeah, they would just chill.
01:38:25
Steve-O
You want like a soft animal, like a real soft one.
01:38:26
DeeBo
I'm telling you, man, I don't know. That looks like.
01:38:32
Steve-O
But, Devin, you you said one of your favorites is an elephant, and their skin is real rough.
01:38:32
meatrichards
You're a psycho.
01:38:36
DeeBo
But elephants are smart, dude. They paint. They know how to paint.
01:38:42
SuperDong
Yeah, they're pretty cool.
01:38:42
meatrichards
I love elephants too. Don't get me wrong.
01:38:44
Steve-O
They never forget. They never forget.
01:38:45
meatrichards
i don't know why i don't I don't know why you think copy bars are ugly. They're so cute, dude.
01:38:47
DeeBo
I don't know. They just kind of like they're not.
01:38:50
meatrichards
They're cute. They're cool.
01:38:51
DeeBo
Maybe it's their fucking dumb eyes. Like they always look like they're annoyed.
01:38:57
Steve-O
We were all just naming animals nicely.
01:38:59
DeeBo
And now I picked a fight.
01:39:00
SuperDong
Why don't you could take a walk again, alright?
01:39:00
Steve-O
Devin came in and he chose his favorite to hate.
01:39:10
meatrichards
they're the cool They're the coolest, chillest animal, dude.
01:39:13
DeeBo
I mean, and don't know. They just kind of seem like.
01:39:15
meatrichards
They'll chill with you and eat fucking crackers. You can feed them crackers. They'll just chill.
01:39:18
DeeBo
Now, listen, listen, I'm looking at one where its eyes are actually open and that's pretty cute.
01:39:25
DeeBo
But they got beady little eyes, dude.
01:39:26
SuperDong
He was looking at a phone. He was looking at a phone in bed.
01:39:29
DeeBo
That's what I mean. I don't know if I'm a rodent guy. Like weasels. i i I had hung out with a girl for a little bit who owned a weasel. And I was like, this sucks.
Owning Raccoons as Pets: Pros and Cons
01:39:43
SuperDong
Hmm. Would you ever own a raccoon?
01:39:46
meatrichards
Raccoon's kind of...
01:39:47
meatrichards
but I think they're too smart.
01:39:49
meatrichards
I think they're too smart.
01:39:50
meatrichards
and they they like I don't trust them, dude.
01:39:50
SuperDong
You know what? I don't i don't like posable thumbs on an animal.
01:39:52
DeeBo
we Well, you know what happens with raccoons when they domestic raccoons, they get super fat.
01:39:59
Steve-O
They just hang out and they eat.
01:40:00
meatrichards
I mean, that's that's kind of cool.
01:40:00
DeeBo
Because, like, yeah, like, they literally, they just aren't going, like, full-blown sloth mode.
01:40:01
meatrichards
That's actually kind of cool.
01:40:05
Steve-O
They don't got a thrill of steel.
01:40:06
meatrichards
I mean, that's...
01:40:09
SuperDong
Somebody told me, somebody told me that they had raccoons as pets.
01:40:09
meatrichards
Let me look up a domesticator raccoon.
01:40:14
SuperDong
This was years ago in college and their, their mother hated them because they would run into the kitchen. And if she was wearing a skirt, they'd slap her ass and then run away.
01:40:26
SuperDong
like they were They just did that. and Nobody trained them to do it.
01:40:31
SuperDong
Yeah, they owned raccoons. the mom used to say would fucking slap her in the ass and run away.
01:40:33
DeeBo
Dude. I mean, I just, I like when they, those videos of the raccoons that like walk up, like really like cautiously and they just grab a handful of cat food or dog food and then run away.
01:40:45
SuperDong
yeah yeah And then run.
01:40:48
Steve-O
They just steal your phone.
01:40:50
SuperDong
and me they'll do the Sometimes they'll run with two feet and they'll just hold the food.
01:40:54
DeeBo
Yeah. That's what I mean.
01:40:54
Steve-O
Oh, I love when they walk on two feet where they're like, I've known how to do this the whole time.
01:40:58
Steve-O
And it's like, fuck.
01:40:59
DeeBo
I mean, the number one, right, is the cheat code, but it's the red panda, right? That thing's broken.
01:41:05
Steve-O
Red Panda real good.
01:41:05
DeeBo
That thing's ridiculous.
01:41:06
Steve-O
That's real good.
01:41:08
SuperDong
Those things are so adorable.
01:41:08
DeeBo
But yeah, i I'll be honest. I think it's the rodent aspect that I just don't find hyper appealing. It's the cutest of the rodents. I'll give it that.
01:41:22
meatrichards
um don't even wanna talk to you about this anymore.
01:41:25
SuperDong
Friendship over.
01:41:26
Steve-O
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on Let me come and save this. Let me come and save this real quick.
Horse Girl Game and Anime Discussion
01:41:30
Steve-O
um So you remember the horse girl game I was talking about?
01:41:33
DeeBo
Yeah. You know what? I keep hearing about it. I'll be honest.
01:41:37
Steve-O
it It has exploded even more in popularity.
01:41:37
DeeBo
People keep bringing it up.
01:41:38
SuperDong
Catching steam.
01:41:40
DeeBo
I don't like that, but............
01:41:41
Steve-O
Now, hold on. Now, Chris, remember how you were talking about how there was a whole, you said it was a multimedia universe or something?
01:41:43
SuperDong
don't like that.
01:41:49
SuperDong
Yeah, there's like an anime. There's like a movie or something.
01:41:52
SuperDong
I think there's a manga.
01:41:52
Steve-O
Yeah, i found out. Yeah, there's a manga. haven't I haven't I've only seen pictures from the manga. i've I've delved into the anime a little bit because I just learned um that like 10 days ago, Amazon Prime got a brand new season of a like spinoff anime of that the Uma Musume Uma Musume.
01:42:17
Steve-O
I think it is. still don't even know how to pronounce it correctly out loud. Um, but it's called, um Cinderella gray and it follows one of the horse girls, but I've been watching the, the main anime that came out called pretty Derby, Uma Musa pretty Derby on, um, uh, yeah, yeah.
01:42:32
meatrichards
Yeah, yeah. Your horse racing one.
01:42:35
Steve-O
Um, what is, what is the, uh, the anime ah service? Um, not crackle crunchy roll.
01:42:39
DeeBo
Crackle or Crunchyroll.
01:42:41
Steve-O
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I signed up for the trial for crunchy roll and I've been kind of just like trying to chew through it.
01:42:45
DeeBo
Yeah, that's dangerous, man. Crankyroll's dangerous.
01:42:48
Steve-O
It is dangerous. It is dangerous. There's a lot of anime on there and it keeps trying to get me in, but I watched the first season and I'm, know what i'm going to tell you that first season. It's whatever. It's whatever.
01:42:59
Steve-O
It just kind of gets you into the it tells you about the universe. It explains things. And I was like, yeah, it's just like, all right.
01:43:04
SuperDong
Confession of an honest man.
01:43:07
Steve-O
It's like you're going to follow one of the horse girls and her dream is to become the best horse girl in Japan. And she becomes like super best friends with another horse girl. And it's kind of like their their drama as they're trying to go through like horse girl school and run these race. Every episode ends with a race, which I really like.
01:43:27
Steve-O
is every episode is race-based. So it's like episode one, the ah the debut race. Episode two is the Tenno show. um I have been absolutely, completely immersed by the second season, though.
Anime Plot Twists and Real-Life Inspirations
01:43:44
SuperDong
You want to talk about it?
01:43:44
Steve-O
Because it's yeah it's everything I love in like a...
01:43:49
Steve-O
and No, it's not. It's kind of Buffy.
01:43:50
meatrichards
Buffy'd you?
01:43:51
Steve-O
It's kind of Buffy. Yeah, yeah in that sense, yes.
01:43:53
meatrichards
Like where, where, yeah, where season one was shit and season two blew you away.
01:43:57
Steve-O
Yeah, but it's it it kind of like takes you back in where like I watched that first season and I was like, oh, okay, that's going to be the main character and stuff. Season two, it makes you think that you're following a main character, but you're kind of just like jumping character to character like and like every like few episodes.
01:44:17
Steve-O
And it goes through everything I love in like a sports movie or sports show where it's like the ups and downs of like the team and how they have to like train and like how they have to like deal with defeat and like injury and just...
01:44:33
Steve-O
it's It's really like i'm I'm kind of fucking into it. um I'm going kind of spoil some stuff here. So if anybody has any interest, I'm going
01:44:42
meatrichards
I'm interested in the spoilers, actually. I mean they might maybe want to watch it.
01:44:44
Steve-O
All right, I'm going to give you some of these spoilers because it might pull you in. So season two, it starts off following this one girl who we kind of follow, and she's kind of more of like a joke character in season one.
01:44:55
Steve-O
um Her name is Tokai Teo. And by the way, I found out that all the horse girls are named after after existing or have existed horses, like race horses.
01:45:06
SuperDong
So got like a Seabiscuit.
01:45:07
Steve-O
Yeah, like it's interesting because like if like one of the horses was like a famous like racehorse from the day, like people who've gotten into the like the game and the anime have been like leaving like flowers at the horse's graves and stuff in like real life.
01:45:23
Steve-O
It's weird. It's weird, man. um
01:45:25
SuperDong
Secretariat? Is there a secretariat?
01:45:27
Steve-O
It's a lot of Japanese horses, but they, you know, they might do Secretariat. um
01:45:32
SuperDong
and don't follow a lot of Japanese whores.
01:45:33
Steve-O
No, that's the thing. Me neither, Chris. Me neither.
01:45:37
SuperDong
That's where I kind of draw the line when it comes to horses.
01:45:40
Steve-O
But that's the fun thing is they try to incorporate apparently the personalities of the horses into the characters.
01:45:41
SuperDong
stick to my own country.
01:45:49
Steve-O
There's one horse girl named gold ship, and that's an actual horse that exists still alive and has apparently um once freaked out in the middle of the race and caused $20 million dollars worth of damage.
01:46:03
SuperDong
That's awesome.
01:46:04
Steve-O
And so they turn that horse into like,
01:46:05
DeeBo
Wait, is this... okay Okay, that's real life? And then...
01:46:08
Steve-O
That's real life. That's real life. And they were like, this horse girl doesn't give a fuck. She just causes trouble. She's like very aloof. um
01:46:16
SuperDong
Steve, I have a very fundamental, very important question that I've been thinking about this whole time.
01:46:23
SuperDong
Are there horses in this world?
01:46:27
Steve-O
I haven't seen any.
01:46:29
Steve-O
I haven't seen any.
01:46:30
SuperDong
So how did, so like, so did people ride these girls around in like medieval times?
Historical Elements in Horse Girl Anime
01:46:40
Steve-O
Every anime starts with a ah Egyptian or a like Greek painting of these horse girls existing in like ancient times.
01:46:51
SuperDong
Were the people riding them?
01:46:54
Steve-O
and Not in the little, not the little painting. Anyway, I want to jump back so I can get to these spoilers.
01:46:58
SuperDong
I'm going to take a sip of the scotch I have here.
01:46:59
Steve-O
Because like it is really good sports drama. And i've um but I've always been a little bit of a sports drama fan. So it follows this one horse girl, Toke Tio, and she is undefeated. She is undefeated and wants to win the Triple Crown.
01:47:15
Steve-O
That is her dream. That is her goal. That is kind of like the basis for all the characters is they all have a goal that they want to achieve. That's what they're kind of asked on their first day of school is one of the things you learn in the first season. And you're like, oh okay that makes sense. You want to be the best horse girl in Japan.
01:47:30
Steve-O
But her thing is she wants to be undefeated and she wants to win the triple crown. So she's like, I want to be the undefeated triple crown winner. first The first episode of that season, she fucking just like kicks ass.
01:47:42
Steve-O
And then you find out at the end of the race, she fucked up her leg. And she has to kind of get... No, they don't shoot her. But she has to like, she's like, but this is my goal. I want to like win the triple crown.
01:47:57
Steve-O
And the doctor's like, you're going to be out until next year. And she's like, but the triple crown's in November.
01:48:03
Steve-O
So she's going through like rehabilitation with the rest of her team. And they're all trying to like help her out. And she's going through like a lot of emotions. She goes to the doctor because like they're like, hey, maybe if you go to the doctor and they say you can race, you can do it.
01:48:20
Steve-O
Now, the first season is all apple pie gumdrops and everything's good. This is where I was like oh, fuck, y'all are ready to drop the hat. She goes to the doctor. The doctor's like, no, you still can't race on this.
01:48:32
Steve-O
So she immediately kind of like crashes and is like, that's my whole goal down the window. I want to be the undefeated triple crown winner. I won the first two races of the triple crown.
01:48:44
Steve-O
I cannot compete. My goal is out the window. What is the, what is even my point to race? And so it kind of gets to the point where like her and her trainer are like, you're still undefeated.
01:48:55
Steve-O
You didn't race in the triple crown, like that final triple crown race. So you're still undefeated. And so she's like, hell yeah. Okay.
Character Dynamics and Animation Style
01:49:04
Steve-O
She rehabilitates, she gets better and she wins her comeback race, but then she gets real excited because she has a rival that she wants to race against.
01:49:15
Steve-O
And it's kind of like, um, Apollo Creed versus Rocky.
01:49:19
Steve-O
It's big buildup because she has won the the last year's race that they want to do. And her Tokay Tio is like,
01:49:27
meatrichards
She's the champ. She's the champ.
01:49:28
Steve-O
I'm undefeated. So it's the champ versus the undefeated. And it's like, they both lose something because her goal, the the champ's goal is to win two in a row.
01:49:41
Steve-O
And that happens. Like you you kind of like see that drama get pushed forth. And that's the thing. Cause something happens. And then we kind of jump over to the champ, Majore McQueen's point of view for the next few episodes. Yeah.
01:49:57
Steve-O
And it keeps jumping like that because things just keep happening and we keep being introduced to new horse girls um to the point where there is this is again, spoilers.
01:50:07
Steve-O
There's one horse girl who keeps fucking destroying the dreams of other horse girls.
01:50:14
Steve-O
And so she keeps winning races when it's like, oh, you're going to do something awesome. And then she wins and everyone's like, you fucking heel. We all came here to see like history be made and you ruined it.
01:50:26
Steve-O
And so like, she's like, I don't want to race anymore. I can't handle people hating me for being good at racing.
01:50:35
Steve-O
It's it's real'm like, all right, this is like really good fucking like silly sports drama. And like, I got to give it to the season two. I watched the first episode of the Amazon prime one that follows.
01:50:48
DeeBo
Wait, there's another one?
01:50:50
Steve-O
This is the brand new one that came out.
01:50:52
Steve-O
I've been watching the one that came out in 2018. Uh,
01:50:55
DeeBo
Is it a different show or just like a season three?
01:50:58
Steve-O
This is so they have season one, season two, season three. This is like a spinoff show called Cinderella Gray that follows a horse girl named Ogari Ogari Cup, I think is her name.
01:51:09
DeeBo
Yeah, Steve, i was about to be like, yeah, man, this is why anime is so great.
01:51:12
Steve-O
No, I know. I know.
01:51:13
DeeBo
And then you say that shit.
01:51:15
Steve-O
Dude, here's the weird part.
01:51:15
DeeBo
And I'm like, okay.
01:51:16
Steve-O
Here's the weird part. When she races, it becomes a fucking berserk, like, episode or manga.
01:51:23
Steve-O
she is She is drawn in ways of, like, when I see Guts swinging that fucking giant sword.
01:51:29
Steve-O
She has, like, the anime lines and stuff. I'm gonna see if I can find a picture.
01:51:33
SuperDong
I think I know. I know exactly what you're talking about, Steve.
01:51:35
Steve-O
Yeah, but, like, I'm like, this...
01:51:37
SuperDong
It's like those motion lines, right?
01:51:39
Steve-O
Yeah, and like that's why I keep watching it because I want to watch all of that stuff to get to that stuff, because that stuff looks so sick.
01:51:45
DeeBo
Hey, Steve, that's why I read all of Trinity, because I needed to know how we got there.
01:51:51
Steve-O
There you go. There you go.
01:51:52
SuperDong
comes full circle, doesn't it?
01:51:53
Steve-O
That makes sense.
01:51:55
SuperDong
You know what's funny? You mentioned that those lines. They use that in Absolute Batman quite a bit.
01:52:01
SuperDong
That is like a a big part of of that. Like him lifting weights at the gym.
01:52:08
SuperDong
It's just that all those berserk lines. Because I've seen that. And it's it looks so cool. It always looks cool.
01:52:15
Steve-O
Yeah, I'm going to post some of the pictures and shit talk of like that series. Because I've been seeing these and I'm like, oh, this looks kind of fucking sick.
01:52:23
SuperDong
It's like where their face almost melds into the background too. Like it's just all motion, right?
01:52:28
SuperDong
It's motion blur.
01:52:29
Steve-O
Yeah, and the thing is, manga looks even nastier. The way the horse girls are drawn in the manga. I'm like, what is going on in this manga? It looks like the Berserk are...
01:52:44
SuperDong
well, you know, it's funny you mentioned Berserk because there is a scene where a demon-possessed horse fucks a girl, and that's very similar to why you were...
01:52:54
DeeBo
Or does it succeed? i can't remember.
01:52:57
SuperDong
Did that... What?
01:52:57
DeeBo
the The horse. the I thought Guts.
01:52:59
DeeBo
I mean, Guts stops him.
01:53:02
SuperDong
I think, you know, I think Guts does stop him before.
01:53:06
SuperDong
It's Berserk, baby! It's Berserk, baby!
01:53:06
DeeBo
Yeah, you can't. How dare you be like, oh, what?
01:53:09
SuperDong
Guts says that every issue of the manga.
01:53:11
DeeBo
Yeah, it's Berserk, baby.
01:53:12
SuperDong
He It's berserk, baby.
Anime Viewing Habits and Spin-offs
01:53:15
Steve-O
It's Berserk, baby.
01:53:17
meatrichards
berserking time.
01:53:19
SuperDong
Anything goes. Go birds.
01:53:22
Steve-O
bird. Anyway, but long story short, i um and I'm enjoying my little trip down this weird avenue.
01:53:31
Steve-O
it has been it has been fun.
01:53:34
SuperDong
It's definitely weird.
01:53:34
meatrichards
How many seasons of the of it are out by now?
01:53:37
Steve-O
ah There's three of the original anime, and then they just put out this new season for the Cinderella Grey show. So four technically.
01:53:49
SuperDong
Imagine if they turned these girls into glue.
01:53:52
Steve-O
That's the thing. That's the thing. the I don't know yet, Chris. I haven't finished season two.
01:53:56
SuperDong
The girl factory. That's what they call it. Instead of the glue.
01:53:59
Steve-O
The girl factory, man.
01:54:00
SuperDong
and Instead of the glue factory. Sounds like a strip club. Anyway. Well.
01:54:05
DeeBo
You got me wanting to watch Demon Slayer again, man.
01:54:09
SuperDong
ah like how we all. Went down our own avenues. Of anime there.
01:54:16
SuperDong
The things that we. That we all. i Oh, boy. Well, is that everything? Did we get through everything?
01:54:23
DeeBo
I think we got through all of our... Well, we we all... It's nice to see that we all were real busybodies, dude.
01:54:30
SuperDong
Yeah, we're doing shit. We're watching shit.
01:54:31
DeeBo
Oh, you know what? Yeah.
01:54:32
SuperDong
We're absorbing art.
01:54:32
meatrichards
Yeah, and watching watching There Will Be Blood at 11 o'clock at night, like me, last night.
01:54:35
DeeBo
Dude, I mentioned this on the Discord, but... John, did you see the Avatar trailer when you saw it?
01:54:43
meatrichards
Yeah. No, you know what fucking pissed me off?
01:54:47
meatrichards
Is that, like, they didn't they turned the lights down after, you know... Like, Avatar got a special treatment, and it fucking it actually made me mad.
01:54:53
DeeBo
Yeah, no, no, same, same, same. Yeah, this got special... trip This got, like, the Cole Kidman ad went and then Avatar played.
01:55:01
meatrichards
Yeah, and then Avatar went out went on.
01:55:02
DeeBo
And then a man behind me audibly gasped.
01:55:03
meatrichards
And I'm like, what the fuck?
01:55:06
DeeBo
He was like, no and I was like, whoa, dude.
01:55:08
meatrichards
Dude, people fucking love Avatar, huh?
01:55:11
DeeBo
Listen, I mean, I like these.
01:55:12
meatrichards
Like, it's crazy.
01:55:16
DeeBo
I like these. I don't I've never been like, this was terrible. Like, they're good movies, man. They're fun movies. Fucking Avatar. I like Sully.
01:55:27
DeeBo
I like Jack Sully or whatever his name is.
01:55:30
SuperDong
Do you think his name's Jack Sully?
01:55:34
SuperDong
I'm not telling you.
Reactions to Avatar and Hellraiser Trailers
01:55:37
SuperDong
not saying anything.
01:55:37
Steve-O
don't look it up.
01:55:37
Steve-O
Don't look it up.
01:55:38
SuperDong
Don't look it up, Devin.
01:55:39
Steve-O
Stick to it the entire episode.
01:55:39
DeeBo
I know I'm right. I know I'm right. It's definitely Sully. Anyway, fuck you.
01:55:46
DeeBo
i like I saw that second one in IMAX in 3D, and I was like, whoa, this is a good time. And I'm not going to be the guy that gasps in the theater when you see it, but...
01:56:04
DeeBo
Hell yeah, Avatar. You know, this is the fastest turnaround I think James Cameron's had since he was like in his 30s. All right.
01:56:13
DeeBo
It's funny because i looked at I looked at this.
01:56:14
Steve-O
I mean, if you're just making cartoons...
01:56:15
DeeBo
I looked at this and I literally thought this is it going to get delayed. Like it's a video game trailer. I was like, there's no fucking way this going to make December.
01:56:23
SuperDong
It's getting delayed.
01:56:24
DeeBo
There's no fucking way. It's going to get delayed. That's how I view this shit now.
01:56:29
DeeBo
Specifically Avatar.
01:56:29
SuperDong
It could be like that now.
01:56:32
SuperDong
It could be like that now.
01:56:33
DeeBo
Yeah. Um, but no, there's, there's some things, there's some things, but like we were talking about coyote versus Acme got, gets a release date, I think summer of next year.
01:56:45
DeeBo
Uh, we got a peacemaker official trailer, which is just fun, you know?
01:56:50
Steve-O
I'm very excited for this.
01:56:53
meatrichards
They said it takes place at one month after a Superman.
01:56:56
meatrichards
Like, in the the events.
01:56:58
meatrichards
One month after Superman.
01:56:59
SuperDong
Multiple universes.
01:57:02
DeeBo
I mean, they're using that weird hellscape.
01:57:05
SuperDong
That was something, huh?
01:57:06
DeeBo
ah August 21st. So...
01:57:09
meatrichards
Oh, the Snyder? The fucking knight?
01:57:10
DeeBo
Dude, I hope that's the Snyderverse, dude.
01:57:12
meatrichards
Whatever it's called? No, it looks like it. It looks like it.
01:57:15
DeeBo
Well, so yeah, sort of.
01:57:16
meatrichards
Looks like the fucking...
01:57:16
SuperDong
Kind of does little bit.
01:57:17
DeeBo
Yeah. um Yeah. We got some a Spinal Tap 2 trailer, which I don't know how you guys feel about.
01:57:25
SuperDong
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
01:57:27
DeeBo
Yeah, it's okay. Why not, right?
01:57:30
DeeBo
Okay. Okay. ah We got, ah let's see, Gen V?
01:57:37
Steve-O
what is this what is this was this a show from like back in the day that finally came back spinoff
01:57:39
SuperDong
It's a spinoff of the boys.
01:57:40
meatrichards
It's the boys. It's the boys spinoff.
01:57:42
DeeBo
So it was, yeah, it's a boy spin-off that came out in 2023, and I watched it, and I was like, this is pretty good.
01:57:49
DeeBo
And then, and then like four years happened. I know it's only been two, but it feels like it's been four. And I was like, I don't recall a single goddamn thing.
01:57:49
SuperDong
It's the family matters to perfect strangers.
01:58:00
Steve-O
I don't think I remember anybody talking about this.
01:58:02
DeeBo
No, it's, it was like that level.
01:58:03
SuperDong
yeah i do. One thing.
01:58:05
DeeBo
It was like decent, but not really worth yelling about.
01:58:08
SuperDong
i know of one thing connected to the show, and it's real life, and it's sad. but One of the actors died...
01:58:12
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah. One of the main actors died between.
01:58:16
DeeBo
was like a, yeah, it was a shame. Um, there's, uh, guys, I was shocked. I didn't think I'd be this impressed by a fucking Hellraiser video game trailer, but this trailer looks...
01:58:31
DeeBo
I don't know, because
01:58:33
Steve-O
I watched this trailer too, and I'm kind of shocked.
01:58:35
meatrichards
You're locked in.
01:58:36
Steve-O
It looks cool. it It kind of has that like...
01:58:37
DeeBo
it's... It's... RE7 and 8 vibe.
01:58:41
SuperDong
Oh, cool. I didn't look at it yet.
01:58:43
Steve-O
this ah This is the Red Band trailer too. You get to see some titties.
01:58:46
DeeBo
Yeah, dude, you see some...
01:58:47
SuperDong
yo, I love titties.
01:58:50
Steve-O
Hellraiser be Hellraising.
01:58:52
SuperDong
They're the titties you guys were talking about. seeing them right now.
01:58:55
DeeBo
but you think we Chris, do you think we'd lie to you about titties, dude?
01:58:58
DeeBo
Who do you think we are? you think we're a bad friends?
01:58:59
Steve-O
Chris, we would never lie to you
01:58:59
SuperDong
I didn't sometimes.
01:59:00
SuperDong
um I don't know, man. Oh, she's got it. Oh, she's got it.
01:59:07
SuperDong
You go open that box.
01:59:09
SuperDong
you go over there?
01:59:10
SuperDong
Of course you go over the box!
Excitement for Vince Gilligan's New Show
01:59:12
DeeBo
yeah So, I'll be honest. I was, like, pleasantly pleased. um I posted this, but I didn't watch it like a fraud. ah Plurb?
01:59:25
Steve-O
This is, um, what's his name's new show?
01:59:28
DeeBo
Yeah, this the Vince Gilligan show.
01:59:30
SuperDong
Vince Gilligan.
01:59:31
DeeBo
So it's kind of like I don't even need to watch it. I'm just like, yeah, no, I'm in. Fuck you, I'm in.
01:59:38
DeeBo
ah It's like a teaser. It's like a 30-second teaser.
01:59:40
SuperDong
Rhea Sehorne is leading this bad boy.
01:59:43
SuperDong
And it's it they said it's a somewhat far into the future light sci-fi show.
01:59:52
SuperDong
v No crime. nothing Nothing to do with drugs.
01:59:57
DeeBo
So can I can I tell you the the first thing I think of when I think of Rhea Sehorne is I remember seeing a post.
01:59:57
Steve-O
He's not doing the Breaking Bad stuff for this.
02:00:08
DeeBo
Yeah, I remember seeing a post of Rhea Sehorne like Kim Wexler. It's just a still of her in Better Call Saul. And then the text over this picture are episodes and timestamps.
02:00:23
DeeBo
And then somebody's like, is this what I think it is? And somebody said, unfortunately, yes. And somebody else said, this a Reddit thread.
02:00:30
DeeBo
Somebody else said, what is it? And somebody, and yeah, and they were like, these are all the times you can see her feet.
02:00:38
DeeBo
And I was like, that's unfortunately seared into my brain.
02:00:42
SuperDong
Why was that the first thing I thought of, too?
02:00:43
DeeBo
Because, yeah, you creep, dude.
02:00:45
DeeBo
You're creeper. No, no, because that's like how... That's how bad it gets, man.
02:00:53
DeeBo
These feet people need to be stopped. They have too much power on the internet.
02:00:59
SuperDong
Well, you know they do that with our podcast, right?
02:01:01
DeeBo
That's why I'm always barefoot, dude.
02:01:03
SuperDong
Yeah, anytime anybody like rubs their feet together, they they got the time stamp for it.
02:01:06
Steve-O
why Why are you guys feeding the algorithm? You know they just have ai bots go through and clip anytime we say feed.
02:01:14
Steve-O
And it's it's just as good. See, I just did it. Fuck!
02:01:17
SuperDong
Yeah, you're in, baby. You're in with the rest of us. The feet conversation.
02:01:22
DeeBo
Yeah, dude. Sorry. I don't make the rules. hear this?
02:01:27
SuperDong
too many it's too it's too it's too accepted
02:01:28
DeeBo
Those are my feet. Just slapping together.
02:01:31
Steve-O
We could have been like Rhea Seahorn is super talented. That better call Saul. You know, she was incredible, but Devin went immediately to the heck in grippers.
02:01:38
DeeBo
It's the first thing. It's the only thing I think of now.
02:01:41
SuperDong
it's not me and it's like i feel bad about like myself because that was the first thing that came to my mind
02:01:45
DeeBo
Steve knew too. He was thinking it.
02:01:47
Steve-O
I didn't know. I didn't know any of this.
02:01:48
DeeBo
He was like, oh, it's feet. It was feet.
02:01:51
Steve-O
Devin, you've, you've dug deeper.
02:01:52
DeeBo
I know your Reddit name, slimeball4feet.
02:01:54
Steve-O
Yeah. No, it's the Phantom of the Foot for a
02:01:57
SuperDong
hey Let me slime your feet.
02:02:05
SuperDong
Let me slime those feets.
02:02:06
DeeBo
no ah Chris, you posted movie with no other choice.
02:02:12
DeeBo
I did not watch this trailer.
02:02:15
SuperDong
This is the the new Bong movie. The director of... Oh, boy.
02:02:21
DeeBo
Oh, so this is a Park Chan-wook?
02:02:24
meatrichards
This is Park Chan-wook.
02:02:25
SuperDong
Oh, Park Chan-wook, not Bong. My bad.
02:02:26
meatrichards
Yeah, not Bong Joon-ho.
02:02:28
DeeBo
Bong's in. He's in timeout right now.
02:02:32
meatrichards
Yeah, he he he's a...
02:02:33
meatrichards
He's a tie-out from Mickey 17.
02:02:36
meatrichards
he yeah too much He had too much fun with that movie.
02:02:37
DeeBo
Yeah. But this is this is the old boy guy.
02:02:39
meatrichards
this is the guy This is the guy in ah in Squid Game, too.
02:02:40
SuperDong
And... Yeah, he's the front man.
02:02:42
meatrichards
isn Is the star.
02:02:43
SuperDong
The front man is is the lead.
02:02:44
meatrichards
Dude. Bro, this looks fucking... insane, Chris.
02:02:49
Steve-O
This is going to be cool.
02:02:49
meatrichards
ah we days we're We're day zero, right? We're watching this day zero.
02:02:52
SuperDong
Yeah, dude. Easy, easy.
02:02:54
meatrichards
It's Park Chan-wook.
02:02:54
SuperDong
That's... i've i'm i' I haven't seen one of his movies. God, it must be like 10 years.
02:03:00
meatrichards
What's so funny, Devin?
02:03:01
DeeBo
This is the way you said it with, like, emphasis.
02:03:04
meatrichards
Because it is Park Chan-wook.
02:03:05
DeeBo
No, you were like, Like, you really, like, I heard every syllable.
02:03:11
SuperDong
He's cool, man.
02:03:12
SuperDong
He makes good movies.
02:03:12
meatrichards
He's no other choice.
02:03:14
SuperDong
You're going to be in the theater with us.
02:03:15
meatrichards
Like, what is this even about? All I know is it looks intense, dude. the fucking
02:03:20
Steve-O
It looks very intense.
02:03:22
meatrichards
It looks insane.
02:03:23
SuperDong
Give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me.
02:03:23
DeeBo
Yeah, I heard the Handmaiden's really good, but i didn't see it.
02:03:27
SuperDong
I did not see that either.
02:03:27
meatrichards
I heard it's little...
02:03:30
meatrichards
I'm going to send you the...
02:03:33
meatrichards
Yeah, I'm going to send you the dokes.
02:03:33
DeeBo
he he Hey, Steve, 1 minute 32 seconds, 7 minutes 44 seconds.
02:03:36
meatrichards
I'm going to send you the dokes meme.
02:03:38
meatrichards
ah yes guess i
02:03:41
Steve-O
He's time clocking.
02:03:42
meatrichards
but to say the dokes the dos me
02:03:43
DeeBo
Yeah, the dones and the timestamps, dude.
02:03:44
Steve-O
Time clocking and time clocking.
02:03:44
meatrichards
I heard the Handmaiden's pretty good. yeah?
02:03:51
meatrichards
Fuck you, Dexter.
02:03:52
DeeBo
yeah We also got a trailer for Five Nights Predates, too.
02:03:55
meatrichards
Oh, yeah, he did Snowpiercer, too. That's right.
02:03:58
DeeBo
I thought that was Bong.
02:03:58
meatrichards
I forgot. I keep forgetting.
02:04:00
SuperDong
That's Bong, dog.
02:04:00
meatrichards
Oh, no, he he produced Snowpiercer.
02:04:02
DeeBo
Wow. Look at us being monsters. Getting it all mixed up.
02:04:06
meatrichards
Well, I'm looking at his IMDB right now, that's why, so
02:04:09
DeeBo
ah Yeah, so we got a trailer for Five Nights Freddy's 2.
02:04:12
meatrichards
Yeah, that's the that's the movie where Chris Evans ate babies and said that they tasted good.
02:04:17
DeeBo
Yeah. Babies taste best.
02:04:18
SuperDong
Captain America, eight babies.
02:04:21
SuperDong
Everybody knows that.
02:04:21
DeeBo
I'm big fan the movie.
02:04:22
Steve-O
Everybody knows that. It's a good movie.
02:04:23
DeeBo
I tried getting into the show, but I couldn't.
02:04:23
meatrichards
Yeah, handmaiden.
02:04:23
SuperDong
ah you want to talk about You want to talk about Five Nights at Freddy's, Devin?
02:04:28
DeeBo
No. That's what I wanted.
02:04:31
DeeBo
That's what I wanted. And now we can move on.
02:04:33
DeeBo
I wanted Steve to be upset.
02:04:35
Steve-O
first movie sucked so bad.
02:04:37
DeeBo
ah Not a tro not trailer, but I guess some good news. ah Microsoft is walking back their $80 games, which tells me that nobody wanted them.
02:04:50
Steve-O
because no one wants them. No.
02:04:52
DeeBo
And they were like, hey, guys, have you seen the pre-orders?
Market Reactions to Gaming Prices
02:04:55
DeeBo
no one's buying these games.
02:04:55
meatrichards
Oh, yeah, du know du microsoft and dude, bad, dude.
02:04:59
Steve-O
Did you see the Kyle Bossman video, Devin?
02:05:03
Steve-O
It's, yeah, he talks about this and he's like, there's an IGN article where they're trying to like figure out which of the upcoming Microsoft games could be the $80 games.
02:05:05
DeeBo
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
02:05:14
Steve-O
And it's like, nowhere on that list did the writer think of Outer Worlds 2 being $80.
02:05:18
DeeBo
yeah And it's, yeah, no, it's just, it's just, I think, I really think, like, Nintendo tricked everybody that this was going to be, like, accepted.
02:05:30
Steve-O
Guys, Nintendo's a cult. Nintendo's a cult.
02:05:35
DeeBo
like Finally, someone says it.
02:05:35
Steve-O
Nintendo's a cult.
02:05:38
Steve-O
It's a great cult.
02:05:38
Steve-O
It's a great cult. They give you Donkey Kong, Bonanza, Microsoft as a shitty cult.
02:05:40
DeeBo
But it is a cult, yeah.
02:05:44
DeeBo
And you know what Donkey Kong? Not even $80.
02:05:47
Steve-O
No, that was a $70. $70 game, yeah.
02:05:50
DeeBo
$70 game, yeah. So it's just it's it's it's just somewhere, ah lot well, not somewhere.
02:05:53
Steve-O
It's just Mario World, Super Mario Kart.
02:05:56
DeeBo
We know why would happen. But it's like, they were like, oh yeah, okay, this is the new normal. And everybody went, no, no, no. For Mario Kart. Not for you. Not for Outer Worlds 2.
02:06:07
Steve-O
To be fair, John and I did not spend $80 on that game. We got it for $50. So it was a budget title for both of us.
02:06:17
DeeBo
All you had to do was buy a console with
02:06:19
Steve-O
We win again. Yeah.
02:06:20
meatrichards
Sorry, I'm looking up Park Chan-wook's last movie.
02:06:23
SuperDong
Yeah, I know. I've never even heard of this movie.
02:06:25
meatrichards
Have you seen it?
02:06:27
meatrichards
it's on It's on Disney+, plus apparently.
02:06:31
DeeBo
We got a trailer for a show I completely forgot was a thing. And I think we should all forget it. Welcome the dairy. How do you do this without anyways?
02:06:42
meatrichards
Yeah, Chris, it is on Disney+. plus I just looked it up.
02:06:44
Steve-O
Is this Pennywise-less?
02:06:46
DeeBo
I mean, he's like in it, but like Skarsgรฅrd's not in it as far as I can tell.
02:06:53
Steve-O
It's probably just he's going to be... They're going to do the thing where it's like, the people the town are being real weird.
02:06:59
DeeBo
But, like, I don't need a โ it's like โ I've seen two movies with it.
02:07:02
SuperDong
Want me to punch this up for you, Devin? I can punch this up.
02:07:06
DeeBo
Yeah, punch it out. Punch it out.
02:07:06
SuperDong
I can make this better.
02:07:08
SuperDong
I can make this better. Add a T in front of the IT.
02:07:16
SuperDong
Okay, that's it, ladies.
02:07:19
SuperDong
Everybody's going watch that.
02:07:19
DeeBo
Oh. No, Let them cook.
02:07:23
SuperDong
What do you got?
02:07:24
DeeBo
Yeah, what do you got?
02:07:25
Steve-O
the word crowd after IT and just make this a spinoff of the IT crowd where they all work in Derry.
02:07:29
DeeBo
No, I like tit better.
02:07:32
DeeBo
my God, I like tit better. No, tit's better. Sorry, Steve.
02:07:37
SuperDong
but What's going make more money here, guys?
02:07:40
DeeBo
Hey, you guys, have you seen, how just Chris sent me the timestamps, okay?
02:07:40
SuperDong
What's going to make more money?
02:07:43
Steve-O
You what's going make more money? Avatar. They just call it Avatar.
02:07:46
Steve-O
Welcome to Derry.
02:07:47
DeeBo
It's called have a tit.
02:07:48
Steve-O
have a tit. have a tit.
02:07:49
Steve-O
Fire and tits. Fire and ass.
02:07:51
SuperDong
Fire and ass. That's...
02:07:54
DeeBo
I hate that. I hate that that one snuck up on me.
02:07:58
Steve-O
Spinal tit. Gen vagina.
02:08:03
DeeBo
whoa Well, all right.
02:08:03
SuperDong
Okay, Steve, you want to make a bunch of money?
02:08:05
Steve-O
Cockyote versus ass me.
02:08:05
SuperDong
Is that what this is?
02:08:06
DeeBo
Now Steve's just proving a point.
02:08:06
SuperDong
Somebody wants to make a bunch of money?
02:08:07
DeeBo
Now he's just proving a point. We get it. You're good at a dick jokes.
02:08:12
Steve-O
Five nights at fuckies.
02:08:13
DeeBo
All right. God damn it.
02:08:16
Steve-O
No other chode. Pussibus.
02:08:19
SuperDong
Eyes on my Wakandong.
02:08:22
Steve-O
Hellraiser no notes.
02:08:24
DeeBo
Hellraise it. That's fine.
02:08:24
SuperDong
Yeah, yeah, that's good the way it is, man.
02:08:26
DeeBo
and then finally we got a Eyes of Wakanda, a thing I didn't know existed, and a thing that's like coming out tomorrow or something like that, or Friday. It's an animated show about Wakanda.
02:08:39
Steve-O
I hear Iron Fist in this.
02:08:42
DeeBo
There's an Iron Fist I saw in the trailer.
02:08:43
SuperDong
like the way he said that, like a baby.
02:08:45
meatrichards
What, daredevil?
02:08:47
Steve-O
Nah, just I saw art of this, but it was Iron Fist.
02:08:51
Steve-O
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you go to if you go to it what is that? What is that? One oh something.
02:08:57
meatrichards
ah Weapon 109.
02:08:58
Steve-O
ah weapon one. nine If you go to the one oh nine timestamp.
02:09:01
SuperDong
He has two iron fists, according to Devin.
02:09:03
DeeBo
Well, he's Wakanda. He's better. Oh my God. It literally is one Oh nine. i That's weird. Why would I laugh at that?
02:09:11
DeeBo
um Yeah. I mean, Hey, I mean, I've, I've far have just, I just can't put the time in the animated shows.
02:09:11
SuperDong
That's the best feet picks there.
02:09:24
SuperDong
Unless it's X-Men 97, right?
02:09:28
SuperDong
That's the caveat. They got one.
02:09:30
DeeBo
Yeah. i Listen, if I just, if I was single, yes, I would have watched all these. But, and it's not like to sound mean. It's just like, I would have because I got, yeah.
02:09:43
SuperDong
You know, if I cared, I'd watch all these.
02:09:45
DeeBo
No, that's the thing.
02:09:46
DeeBo
I couldn't even care and I'd still watch it because I'd be like, what else am I going to do with my life? think that's, that's how my brain would worked.
02:09:46
Steve-O
Oh, that's fair, too.
02:09:55
DeeBo
But, you know. So, yeah.
02:09:58
DeeBo
And, yeah, I think it's a little jammed up week.
02:10:04
meatrichards
Park Chan Wu.
02:10:04
SuperDong
Constipated. That's what it sounds like.
02:10:05
DeeBo
Let's see. Is there anything? Let just give the old Feedly a nice little...
02:10:08
Steve-O
Yeah, what are we looking forward to this week?
02:10:11
meatrichards
um I might watch this fucking movie, this Park Chan-wook movie.
02:10:14
meatrichards
I just watched the trailer.
02:10:14
SuperDong
um I'm going to see Fantastic Four at the end the the the this week.
02:10:18
meatrichards
Fartastic Fat is what I call it.
02:10:20
SuperDong
Does Weapons come out this week?
02:10:22
meatrichards
No, August 8th.
02:10:24
DeeBo
I think Together comes out this week.
02:10:29
DeeBo
me see. Let me see.
02:10:30
Steve-O
That's the one with the eyes touching, right?
02:10:32
SuperDong
You got it, Steve.
02:10:34
meatrichards
Fantastic Fart!
02:10:34
DeeBo
Yeah. Also, the naked gun. The naked gun comes out.
02:10:38
meatrichards
Oh, is that out this week?
02:10:38
Steve-O
but No, no, no, it's going to be fun.
02:10:39
meatrichards
Oh, we got to watch that too.
02:10:42
SuperDong
lot good movies.
02:10:42
meatrichards
wasn' When was the last time we watched the comedy in the theater?
02:10:45
SuperDong
I know, I was afraid.
02:10:46
meatrichards
Moe's Afraid? It's Moe's Afraid. Horror slash comedy.
02:10:51
meatrichards
That's the genre. Come on, Chris. That's your movie, dude.
02:10:56
meatrichards
Ten years from now, you're gonna be like, you're going to be like, Moe's Afraid that is his best work to date.
02:10:57
SuperDong
Don't mind if I do.
02:11:01
SuperDong
and might get that tattooed on me.
02:11:01
DeeBo
Oh, you know, there's a by the way, there's a movie that's out right now that I've been hearing decent buzz for. I saw the trailer and I was like, hmm, OK, it's called Oh High.
02:11:12
meatrichards
It's called Sinners. Have you guys seen it?
02:11:15
DeeBo
It's called Oh High and it stars ah the woman who ah Molly Gordon, who plays Claire from the bear.
02:11:24
SuperDong
Claire from a bar.
02:11:25
DeeBo
Claire from the bear, ah my twenty twenty three crush of the year.
02:11:31
meatrichards
She's with, is she with um the bear in real life?
02:11:33
DeeBo
She's not with me and that's what's wrong with this world.
02:11:34
meatrichards
Are they together?
02:11:38
DeeBo
I don't know. There was, there was a, they saw, there was like, whatchamacallit, paparazzi shots of them like looking up. But, yeah, never mind.
02:11:47
meatrichards
ah That could just mean he he might just have anxiety. Maybe that's what it is.
02:11:50
DeeBo
He's just really anxious. Yeah. I saw the trailer and I was like, okay.
02:11:58
meatrichards
Oh, the girl from Thunderbolts is in it, too. I like that girl. The Australian Indian girl.
02:12:04
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's right. She wasn't in the books. I only remember her from ah the Cockblocker movie with John Cena.
02:12:12
meatrichards
Oh, yeah. With John Cena, that was actually pretty funny.
02:12:15
DeeBo
I saw that in the theater.
02:12:17
meatrichards
Dude, David Cross is in this movie? Oh hi.
02:12:20
DeeBo
I don't know. it's ah i Just watch the trailer if you want. It's a fun little... don't know.
02:12:26
meatrichards
good shit. Good shit.
02:12:27
DeeBo
I was interested. And it's out. It's out now. Go watch it.
02:12:32
meatrichards
Yeah, but so is Superman.
02:12:34
meatrichards
We could watch Superman again.
02:12:35
DeeBo
Yeah, you could watch Superman for a third time. You could. You don't have to.
02:12:41
meatrichards
There are people out there that have watched it like 30 times in the theaters, which is like insane.
02:12:47
meatrichards
No, I watched them i watch Avengers, like, I think five or six times in the theaters when that first came out. was pretty excited about that.
02:12:54
DeeBo
Yeah, I saw Avengers like three or four times. That was, man.
02:13:00
meatrichards
I, like, took everybody to see it.
02:13:01
meatrichards
Like, my ah my i guess my my my nephews wanted to see a movie on Saturday. So my sister, like, texted me. She was like, hey, like, do you guys want to see Leland Stitch again?
02:13:11
meatrichards
I was like, ew. Like, wow why are you seeing why are you seeing that?
02:13:16
meatrichards
And she's like, dude, these brats don't want to see Superman for some reason. So I'm going to have to go watch that by myself. I'm like, you're their mother.
02:13:24
meatrichards
I said it like fucking hereditary.
02:13:27
meatrichards
You're their mother. Just make them watch Superman, dude. Come on. I don't know. Maybe I overhyped it for them and they just they just don't theyt want to watch anymore. or maybe
02:13:39
Steve-O
I get that, John.
02:13:40
meatrichards
Or maybe they want to watch it with me.
02:13:41
meatrichards
Maybe they they want to watch it with me.
02:13:43
meatrichards
Maybe that's what it is.
02:13:44
Steve-O
That makes sense. That's like how you guys wanted to play Claire Obscure with me.
02:13:48
meatrichards
Yeah, exactly.
02:13:49
Steve-O
Exactly. Exactly.
02:13:51
meatrichards
And I want to watch Trainspotting 2 with Chris. That's why I waited eight years. You know? Because I can only watch it with Chris, right?
02:13:59
Steve-O
You can only watch it with Chris.
02:14:00
Steve-O
You can only watch Trainspotting 2 once for the first time.
02:14:05
meatrichards
Chris, did you even watch Doctor Sleepless? Did you even watch that?
02:14:07
SuperDong
Yeah, I watched Dr. Sleepless.
02:14:09
meatrichards
So you watch that.
02:14:10
meatrichards
You watch The Shining 2, but you won't watch Trainspotting 2.
02:14:14
meatrichards
Trainspotting means a little bit more to you.
02:14:14
SuperDong
a good point. i didn't even read I didn't even read The Shining.
02:14:16
meatrichards
Is that why?
02:14:19
SuperDong
I read Trainspotting.
02:14:20
meatrichards
Yeah, okay, so Trainspotting means a little bit more to you than Stephen
02:14:22
SuperDong
It means way more to me than fucking...
02:14:25
SuperDong
Well, The Shining is great, but yeah, Stephen King adapted shit.
02:14:25
meatrichards
and stephen king and stephen king
02:14:30
Steve-O
Now if it was Stanley Kubrick shining too.
02:14:33
SuperDong
If he made do just if he came back to life, if he clawed his way out of his grave, set up his camera, and started shooting, again, a sequel called Dr.
02:14:44
SuperDong
Sequelist, I'd be in there. And i'd I'd be like, this is legit. and Maybe I should think that way about Trainspotting 2, because guess what? Danny Boyle isn't dead. He directed this.
02:14:55
SuperDong
It's not a corpse that made this.
02:14:56
meatrichards
He wanted to make. He wanted to make. Trainspotting 2.
02:15:00
meatrichards
It's not like it was a.
02:15:00
SuperDong
i didn't get it.
02:15:00
meatrichards
It was a cash grab. Or anything. You know.
02:15:02
SuperDong
I didn't understand that. At a young age, too. I read Trainspotting as young man.
02:15:08
meatrichards
I tried. I tried reading it. In college. And I'm like. Yeah. I can't even read. Like normal. but Like normal literature. There's no way. I could get through this.
02:15:15
SuperDong
Dude, I went on a run. I read Clockwork Orange and I read this because I was like, I got walk i gotta read the sickest shit.
02:15:19
meatrichards
You're just a sicko.
02:15:21
meatrichards
You're just a fucking sicko. You're a fucking sicko. Dude.
02:15:23
SuperDong
And then I read American Psycho after all of that.
02:15:26
meatrichards
And then what?
02:15:27
meatrichards
And then you took a shit?
02:15:27
Steve-O
Dude, you're just reading gobbledygook.
02:15:28
meatrichards
You took a shit and you fucking finished Blood Meridian in one sitting. In one and once in one shitting, you finished Blood Meridian.
02:15:33
SuperDong
It's the darkest edulard-y shit I could pull together in my life. I loved every minute and every word of all of those books.
02:15:44
Steve-O
Dude, this Chris Galani is off the level.
02:15:46
SuperDong
I gotta be honest.
02:15:46
Steve-O
We have to nerf that guy. We had to nerf that guy.
02:15:48
SuperDong
He was too edgecore. was too edgecore.
02:15:51
meatrichards
That's like...
02:15:52
Steve-O
A Clockwork Orange is like reading baby talk for an entire book.
02:15:54
meatrichards
we Do we miss that Galani? I don't know if I missed that Galani. I don't know.
02:16:01
Steve-O
What will they do on a pickle day?
02:16:01
meatrichards
yeah but yeah but Yeah, Blood blood Meridian Galani.
02:16:05
meatrichards
Blood Meridian version of Galani.
02:16:06
Steve-O
Blood Meridian Galani.
02:16:07
SuperDong
Nothing i know nothing on this earth that I don't know about does not deserve to exist.
02:16:12
Steve-O
Super Saiyan Blood Meridian Galani.
02:16:14
meatrichards
Yeah, Super Saiyan. Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Blood Meridian Prime Chris Galani is like Blood Meridian as a so subtitle is pretty is pretty hardcore. that's
02:16:26
SuperDong
And you know, there's so many quotes from that book that remembered that I can't say on a podcast because they're horrible.
02:16:26
meatrichards
That's your true stick though.
02:16:31
meatrichards
Oh my god, really? Is it that bad? Jeez.
02:16:33
SuperDong
Said by the the worst human beings alive.
02:16:38
meatrichards
Is that why they know they'll never make it a movie? Because just it's just like too hard because it's tough?
02:16:40
SuperDong
Yeah. There's the the last words of a certain character in that are just like pure disgusting filth. Like pure um unbelievable hatred.
02:16:51
meatrichards
So was it better than the road or no?
02:16:51
DeeBo
Give us a hint. Let's end the podcast on one of these fth filth jars.
02:16:56
SuperDong
I won't. I will not repeat what he said.
02:16:58
Steve-O
He's not doing it.
02:16:59
Steve-O
He's not doing it.
02:17:00
SuperDong
There's a lot of hard R's there that I am not prepared to talk about.
02:17:04
Steve-O
right, we're not doing that.
02:17:06
SuperDong
no. No, so sir.
02:17:07
Steve-O
But just know, Chris Kalani has read those words.
02:17:09
DeeBo
he Just know Chris has said it when he was transcribing.
02:17:13
Steve-O
In his head, he's transcribed it.
02:17:13
DeeBo
He said it in his head, so he's a monster.
02:17:14
SuperDong
I have. I've read it.
02:17:18
SuperDong
I think I've even said it ah aloud to people.
02:17:20
Steve-O
chris is chris is that Chris is taking the the this transcription and he's toning it down to put out a toned-down version called just Slightly Bloody Meridian.
02:17:21
SuperDong
Talking about it.
02:17:27
DeeBo
Just know Chris will verbalize it five seconds after this podcast ends.
02:17:29
SuperDong
Oh man, a toned down version?
02:17:33
SuperDong
ah You fine Native Americans can kill me.
02:17:35
DeeBo
Oh, okay. That's not bad.
02:17:39
Steve-O
but Okay, you know what?
02:17:40
SuperDong
I'll say the other thing but we're done when we're done recording.
02:17:40
DeeBo
Is that what Christopher Columbus said?
02:17:44
SuperDong
I'll say what it really is.
02:17:46
Steve-O
All right, everybody. We're going to call it there because I want to find out what Chris is going to say. We'll be back next week. So stay tuned and hope to see you then. Bye, everybody.