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Conspiracies Are Real and Affect You w/ Charlie Robinson - Connecting Minds Podcast Ep12
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Shownotes: https://christianyordanov.com/12-charlie-robinson
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-Z_BHE0py38
Charlie Robinson is the author of The Octopus of Global Control and the new book with Jeff Berwick a.k.a The Dollar Vigilante, The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire. We a talk about his books and his research into conspiracies intended to keep us subservient slaves to a select few people who orchestrate world affairs. This is an incredibly important episode for you to listen to in full. Please check out Charlie's work, it is sure to make you rethink some fundamental views you may hold about the world you live in ;)
Links to Charlie's books, podcast, website, and social:
The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire: https://www.amazon.com/Controlled-Demolition-American-Empire/dp/B08M21XKJ5
The Octopus of Global Control: https://www.amazon.com/Octopus-Global-Control-Charlie-Robinson/dp/1521818495
Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/macroaggressions/id1501964274
Octopus book website: http://theoctopusofglobalcontrol.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/macroaggressio3
Topics Discussed on this episode:
They are way too many gems from Charlie in this conversation to list them. A small sample of the topics covered include:
- How Charlie got into his research and how it lead to him writing his first book, then with Jeff Berwick on the second one.
- The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire
- Who are the globalists? What are the up to?
- Why you should be interested in these topics.
- What causes politicians to make seemingly terrible decisions for the people.
- The role of child abuse in politics.
- False flag terror attacks.
- The use of propaganda in the media to sway public opinion.
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Transcript
Introduction and Tribute to Contributors
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Connecting Minds is a space dedicated to honoring the amazing authors, researchers, clinicians, artists, and entrepreneurs who are contributing to our collective evolution or simply making the world a better place. These thought-provoking conversations are intended to expand our horizons, so come with an open mind and let us grow together. Here is your host, Christian Yordanov.
Guest Introduction: Charlie Robinson
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Hello and welcome to the Connecting Minds podcast. My name is Christian Jardinoff. Thank you so much for joining me today. On today's 12th episode of the podcast, I have an awesome conversation with Mr. Charlie Robinson. He's a really awesome dude. We talk about all sorts of conspiracies. We cover a lot of information in two hours, so it's jam packed full of interesting things for you that you may
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may have not been aware of, so highly recommend you stick with us. I'm sure you will see the world slightly differently at the end of this episode.
The Octopus of Global Control
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So Charlie is the author of a couple of books. His first book, The Octopus of Global Control, is for those new to the world of conspiracy theories, quote unquote, or for people still on the fence about whether or not these events are actually real or connected.
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This is a controversial but funny nonfiction book detailing how those in positions of power are able to manipulate society for their benefit, why they believe that they're entitled to impose their warped worldview or reality on mankind, and how we can break free from their grip. So that book is fascinating. There's over 500 quotes from presidents, secretaries of state, and so on, politicians.
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who had a front-row seat during the unfolding of this plan for world domination. So it's fact-based, it's not conjecture, and it's really well researched and really well laid out in a humoristic fashion, which tends to lighten the mood of the otherwise literal war against humanity that a select few powerful people are waging.
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So that's his first
American Empire and Globalist Interests
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book. His latest book, which was published in late October, about six weeks ago, is called The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire. That's written with Jeff Burwick, also known as The Dollar Vigilante on YouTube. You may have heard of him. He's got quite a popular channel.
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And his latest book basically lays out how the American empire was set up to fail from the get-go and how that plan has developed and unfolded over the last couple of centuries.
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So I just got the book a few days ago. I can't wait to dig into it. I see already it has over 455 star ratings in these six or less weeks it's been published. So that is unbelievably amazing.
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I hope it hits some bestseller lists and really kind of goes up because I know these kinds of books often tend to get suppressed and not enough people read them. And we need more people reading things like this so we don't let our society be manipulated so easily into doing stupid crazy things in the name of whatever, public safety or whatever, right?
Inspiration and Risks of Conspiracy Research
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So yeah, very happy with this conversation with Charlie. So thankful for such an awesome dude to spend two hours with me discussing this stuff, which I've had an interest in for several years. And I'm really glad there's guys out there who have the balls to do this conspiracy research and analysis, which is kind of depressing when you dig into it.
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It's not really looked well upon by society, so there's a certain amount of ostracism that can happen, people that go into this kind of research. So I'm glad there's guys that, regardless of these risks, continue to do this and fight good fights.
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Yeah, I'm hoping I can have Charlie on again in the future to talk more stuff. I can literally talk to this man for weeks and weeks if I had the opportunity.
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Yeah, thank you once again for joining me. Really appreciate you spending the time. Let me know what you think of the episode, show notes on christianjordanoff.com. Hopefully YouTube won't take this video down. They already took one video from episode four about psychedelics. I got the email today that they took it down. So you never know with YouTube, but anyway, that's not such a major issue. So yeah, without further ado, I present to you Mr.
Charlie's Background and Book Journey
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Charlie Robinson.
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Today on the Connecting Minds podcast, we have Charlie Robinson. Charlie, thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you for having me. Let's get weird, shall we? Let's get weird. We've been talking for like the last 20 minutes, so we thought we'd start recording because it's already been an amazing conversation. So let's start with Charlie. Please tell the listeners a little bit about your background and tell us
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about your first book, The Octopus of Global Control, that was released in 2017. And tell us about your new book that we will be discussing today, please.
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I live in the United States. I was living in Las Vegas from 2003 to 2012, selling real estate. I still work there, even though I don't live there. I work remotely. But I went on vacation in 2007, and a friend of mine gave me a book to read. He said, I think you'll like this. It's called Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins. And he explained how when he worked for this company,
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that was kind of like a Halliburton.
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How they would go in, his job was to convince presidents of countries to agree to build these large projects, like a hydroelectric power plant, like a dam or something, or harbors and things like that. He would arrange the financing for these countries through the IMF and the World Bank. They've got plenty of money. It only costs this much to build it. You build it, it'll generate this much revenue, and then that revenue will
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be used to pay back the loan, plus you'll make money on it and all your, you know, all the people in your area will get electricity and you'll be, they'll be able to learn to read at night and all these great things. Right. And, and so the countries would sign on to this deal.
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And almost immediately after the facility was finished, it wouldn't make the sort of money that they had been promised. And they would fall behind in their payments to the IMF and the World Bank. And then they would use that as leverage to convince this country to go do something that they didn't want to do, like build a US military base there or privatize their fishing industry and sell it off to their buddies or do something that they didn't want to do. And I was like,
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God, I'm living this, but in a smaller scale in Las Vegas, I'm in real estate and I was selling houses to all these people that the bank would approve them for the loan and say, you're good for this $400,000 loan, but the guy made $10 an hour picking apples or oranges or something and it wasn't
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It wasn't ever going to work, and I knew it, but the guys going, well, shoot, they're giving me the loan, so they must think I can pay it back, so I pay it back, and then the guy would fall behind on his payments, and then the banks would take his house back from him. I was like, it just connected with me that this is
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that there's a bigger scam going on. Now, I knew about 9-11. I knew that 9-11 was not what it appeared to be. So I wasn't naive about that, but the financial component to it, I was just kind of discovering. And so that led me down this path. And then I took a job in Vegas where
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with a big condo project that was half built and it was still getting built but i was the sales person so i was there on site but nobody was coming in so i had like. Eight hours a day of sitting there doing nothing so i was reading and i was watching videos and i was getting into and i was just going down the rabbit hole like most people do and then years later.
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my mom just had just a normal conversation with her one day and she asked me like i told her about some great great new conspiracy i'd come across or whatever and she was always very you know she would listen and she she was like this is kind of fascinating but one day she was like this is fascinating but what are you going to do about it and i was like god i don't know i never you know i never thought i had to do anything about it never crossed my mind that i had
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to play any role. I was just observing how all this stuff was working. So then after that, I started thinking about it and I wound up writing, deciding I was going to write a book, but I didn't tell anyone I was going to do it. I didn't want people to like, I didn't want people to ask me like, Hey, how's that book coming? And then, you know, if I was like not really going to finish it, I just didn't want to set that expectation.
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What year did you decide to write the book? This was in 2016. I decided to start writing it and I just moved to Denver and I started at night when no one was around or when my wife was gone, I would write a little bit here and there and I just wanted to see how I felt. And the more I wrote, the better I felt, but I still didn't tell anyone.
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It wasn't until the book was finished and a big box arrived at my house with the first batch of books that my wife opened it up. I wasn't there. She opened it up, saw this big book with my name and my face on the back, and she threw me out of the house for two days because she said I was emotionally cheating on her by writing this book. I was like, listen.
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You do know that this could have gone a lot worse. I could seriously have had another family in some other state somewhere, which I didn't do. Just write in a book behind your back. It's not that bad. Anyway, that's how The Octopus book came about. That came out in 2017. About a year after that,
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I was promoting it, and I was on Jeff Berwick's podcast, The Anarchast, and we had just got done recording the interview, and then we were still on talking to each other, but we weren't recording. And he was saying to me, you know this whole thing's coming down, right? And I was like, what? And he's like, well, the whole empire is coming down. And I was like, yeah, yeah.
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I agree. And we we started chatting about that. And he said, you know, we should we should work on something together. We should, you know, we should work on a book together.
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I said, well, that sounds like a great idea. I liked the idea of working with Jeff because Jeff is a Canadian anarchist who lives in Mexico and I'm an American who lives in America and we're going to write about the coming destruction of America and we're going to get two very different points of view. Although we feel the same about it. We just grew up in different places and see the United States differently. I was more
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brainwashed by it all for, not now, but I mean, longer than Jeff was. Jeff woke up to this sort of insanity a couple years before I did. And so we came up with the concept of, like when I wrote the Octopus book, I broke it into eight parts with each of them being a different tentacle. And with this new book, the new book is called The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire.
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And I came up with the same sort of concept where we're just gonna talk about eight different chapters. We're gonna talk about, you know, built on a rotten foundation. We were gonna describe the book and we were gonna write the book
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in a way that described the destruction of America the same way you would write about the destruction of a high rise building, like a controlled demolition of a building, like a 47 story steel skyscraper in New York City that might've fallen on September 11th at 5.25 in the afternoon. So we make the comparisons to that. So it's like built on a rotten foundation, identifying the support columns, rigging the detonators,
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who wired the building, stounding the alarm, pushing down the plunger and clearing the debris.
Empire Decline and Globalist Agenda
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We talk about all these steps, like how America got itself in this situation. It wasn't accidental. It was done by certain policies that were meant to be like a time bomb that would go off inside America decades later and destroy it.
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And so we talk about how that's being done what's being done what the plan is who's behind it why they're why they're doing this and then kind of like the most important part at the end is like well. Once this happens you have the opportunity to.
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Well, first of all, if you know this is coming, you have the opportunity to position yourself in a way that you're out of the way of the destruction, but also possibly to profit or to succeed in the next paradigm that's coming. We make the comparison between the way like the Soviet Union,
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was broken up in 91 and how Russia didn't go away. All the satellite nations that it controlled went away, but Mother Russia still was there. The same thing will happen with the American Empire. It's not so much that America will disappear, but it's that America's the empire, all of the military bases, all of the control that it has, the control through
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The US dollar the control through the swift system which controls global finance that you know All of these things when it loses its influence and it become it stops being this this empire They'll still be the United States. They'll still be America, but the Empire itself will have faded away kind of like Make the description that the comparison between like somebody that's a hiker climbing Mount Everest that gets stuck up there Your body will will make the decision that
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it'll prioritize where the blood flow goes. It'll keep it in your heart and brain and organs, but you'll lose it at your tips or your fingers and your toes. Those will fall off. Well, that's what happened in the Soviet Union. They lost Belarus and Czechoslovakia and Hungary and all these countries that had been part of the Soviet Union. They're still there. They're just independent and no longer controlled by the host empire. And that's kind of how it will be in the United States. We'll lose
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We'll lose our our our overseas influence. We'll lose our we might even lose some of our territories. We might have to, you know, we just have to we'll have to prioritize what gets saved and what doesn't. And frankly, the way Jeff and I see it, the United States or the American empire has nobody to blame but themselves for this because this is all their own doing. They've acted like maniacs around the world, starting wars indiscriminately and things like that. So we're not we're not here to
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apologize for the American Empire. We're actually here to say that it's about time that it gets taken down. Okay, so you think it's a good thing that this is happening? Well, I think it's a bad thing in the sense that a lot of people are going to get hurt. And I think it would be a good thing for the American Empire to end.
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because of its reckless behavior, it would be a lesson to it. But that's only going to be part of it. Part of the reason why it's going to end is that the people that are running the world, the people that call themselves the New World Order, they cannot have
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superpowers existing. They cannot have empires existing because it's a challenge to their own empire. So they took out the Soviet Union three decades ago and America is slated to be taken out as well so that nothing will stand in their way of their push for this one world government. Now it sounds crazy
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the first time you hear somebody talking about the one world government or the new world order, but these aren't our terms for these people. These are their terms for themselves. This is what they call themselves. And they talk openly about wanting a one world government with a new world order running it. And this is part of their plan. And so they've got to clear out the biggest obstacle to world domination. And that is the current US empire. Now there'll be some overlap because some of the people
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involved in this new world order are Americans, but they view themselves as globalists. They view themselves as much bigger than any one nation. So the idea of America or some loyalty to America that's not high on their list. They don't give a shit about being loyal to America. They're loyal to this one, this global system, which will ironically include a world army
Economic Implications of US Dollar Decline
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And it makes you think like if we're all in one world government and there's a world army, well, then who's the enemy? Who are they fighting? And of course, I think the answer is us. I think that it's against the people. So we're in this situation where it could be beneficial. Like the current state of the American empire is
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extremely aggressive around the world, which is obviously no good, starting wars, things like that, putting sanctions on countries that don't do what America wants them to do. All these things are reprehensible, and that's part of the American empire. I will be glad when that stuff is gone. The downside is that
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when you make changes this big, things happen, corona situation, we're seeing this firsthand, it hurts the small, it hurts the little people the most, and that's the problem. So I don't wish that on everybody. And I think there are ways that people can position themselves to be hurt less by it, but there's no way to really avoid it all. It's gonna be very chaotic. But when there's chaos, there's also opportunity.
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But I would prefer if the American empire just fizzled out slowly so that everybody had time to brace themselves for it. But I don't think that's going to happen. I think it's going to happen rather quickly. I think that something that could make it happen literally overnight would be a decision
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that the US dollar was de-pegged as being the world's reserve currency. That would instantaneously throw the value of the dollar. It would cut it by, I don't know, some estimates say to cut the value of the dollar by 30% right away and maybe another 20% after that. Well, the value of the dollar has already been destroyed by the Federal Reserve over the last 100 years. It's worth
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it's only worth 3% of what it was when they started over 100 years ago. It's already lost its value. To have its value lost, destroyed even further would be catastrophic, but that's something that could happen. It would hurt everybody, but it would hurt the people with no money more than it would hurt the people with a lot of money because the people with no money literally wouldn't be able to buy bread and
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and food and things like that. It's going to have real world consequences. Part of me wants the American empire to be taught a lesson or the world to see what happens when you act crazy like America has been acting over the last 50 years or so. But I get away from that real quick because I know that
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I don't, you know, just to make an example of the American Empire, you're going to wind up hurting a lot of people as well. But it's coming whether we want it or not. Unfortunately, the end of this experiment is coming. But I feel like
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you know, America itself, the government itself, they have nobody to blame. You know, they have nobody to blame for this, but themselves, because it's their policies, it's their ideas, it's their world domination quest and, you know, that has led us to where we are now.
Understanding Globalists and their Influence
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Charlie, I want to take a step back because I know a lot of our listeners will be, they won't be, you know, black belt in conspiracies. And, you know, I consider you like a 10th Dan black belt in conspiracies.
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So we can, we can, we, I think, you know, we jumped straight into it, but let's, I know a lot of people are, if they haven't turned off this episode already, some of them are like, wait, what globalists? Yeah.
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what you're talking about, new world order. Can you, to the, let's say, uninitiated, can you tell us who is this new world order? Who are these globalists? And what evidence do we have that they exist, you crazy conspiracy theorists?
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Yes. As a prime example of a globalist that we could point to, let's point to David Rockefeller. He's now dead. He died recently. The Rockefeller family has been involved in this in the United States.
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for well over 100 years. They started Standard Oil. They made a lot of money doing that. They created the concept of big pharma, the pharmaceutical industry, which is petroleum-based. They have their fingers in everything. I put a quote in my book.
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that was from a guy named John Francis Hyland, and he's talking about this octopus with its sprawling tentacles throughout the city. He was talking about New York City, the city, the media, the courthouses, the politicians, and he says, let me escape from mere generalities. I'm talking about the Rockefeller standard oil interest, and he described it as this octopus.
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Now he made that quote, you get about three paragraphs of a quote, it's fascinating, and you read it, and you would assume that this guy is talking about current day. But the quote was from 1922, and it's almost 100 years ago, and he's describing this system with the Rockefellers controlling every aspect of it. And you realize, well, nothing's really changed. And so you get into
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So if you look at the Rockefeller family as an example, David Rockefeller puts out an autobiography. And in this autobiography, I took a quote from that and put that in the book as well. He talks about this. He says, some people have described me and my family as internationalists, that we are seeking to create a world government, that we are looking to, that we're, you know, this whole thing about like the definition of globalist.
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And he ends it by saying, well, if that's the charge, then I stand guilty and I'm proud of it. And that's from page 405 in his autobiography. He didn't get- Yeah, have that book. Yeah. He didn't just get drunk and mention this at a bar one night to some guy. He put it in his book. He wants you to know this, and there's a lot about that.
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So their plan is they think, you know, when you've got all this money and you've taken over America, your next plan is, well, let's take over everything, you know, and they think like this. So you when you've got all the money in the world to buy whatever you want, you start looking for things.
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that aren't actually for sale that you can buy, so you can influence. We see that it's a cultural thing. It's a concept. Well, if we all get together, then maybe we can take over the world. Now, it's always been just a fantasy. No one can really do that. Jeff and I write about that in the new book about empires and how long they last. Sometimes they last hundreds of years, but they never really conquered much of the globe because
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It's a big place. It's a lot to take over physically. But nowadays, you have the ability to take over in a sense differently. You can take over financially. You can take over from an information standpoint. So what do they own? They own all the central banks. They own that. They own all the media. They buy politicians. So they're shaping and creating
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local politics, national politics, and then even global politics in a way that works best for them. And that is more control for them, less control for the people, more, you know, less rights for everybody else, keep everybody scared and keep everybody poor. So if you can do those things, then you can control the masses. And so that's what they go about doing. And they're very upfront about this. They talk about it in
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presentations. They write about it in their books. They start non-governmental organizations and groups like the Rockefeller Foundation and the United Nations, which is a globalist organization. I mean, the United Nations was founded by the Rockefellers. Their headquarters in New York is on land given to them by the Rockefellers. It's the Rockefellers. The United Nations is the Rockefellers
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globalist front group. And then under that umbrella, you have the World Health Organization and the IMF and the World Bank and all of these these organizations are underneath that. So they have built a structure in the United Nations. And they're using that
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They're saying, look, we're uniting nations. Isn't this great? We're all coming together. It's like a big hug. Well, it's not. That's not what they want. They want everybody to come together so that they can control everybody centrally from one location. They want to centralize power into the hands of a very few decision makers because it's much easier that way. That's why you have things like
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the EU. It's a grouping together of countries into one legislative body. That way, they don't have to control 32 different countries, they can just control one organization. And then if they control that, it just makes things easier on them. So they'd like to group these countries up into larger groups, and then
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bundle those larger groups and together at the at the very end to make one big one world group so that's where they're going yes it sounds like crazy conspiracy theory when you talk about it and especially when you use the word word new world order because that sounds totally nuts but
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But it's not our term for them. It's their term for themselves. They come up with that term. And I put quotes in the book. Well, first of all, let me go back and just say that the reason why I keep saying I put quotes in the book is that the format for the octopus book is that I use quotes from over 500 different people that either were involved in or had some sort of interesting take on
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some of the most important things that have happened in our world in the last couple hundred years. So you get Rockefeller and Rothschild quotes and Bill Clinton and Obama and Bush and all those people. But you get George Carlin and Joe Rogan and Bill Hicks and funny guys like that that also see this and see the insanity of it and can laugh at it. So I brought in all these quotes. And so you get examples of George H.W. Bush talking about the New World Order.
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you know, we have a great chance with this New World Order. He mentions it over 200 times in public, you know, in public speeches, just in his four years in office. And you've got the Queen talking about the New World Order, you've got the Pope, Tony Blair, Al Gore, John Kehr. I mean, just everybody, every Bono. I mean, everybody's talking about this. It's a big group. It's the big club. It's the big club George Carlin talks about that you ain't in.
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it's this new world order club. And that is, so when you identify that and you talk about that openly the first time around people, they just go get out of here with that nonsense. And you're like, well, hang on a second. That's why I wrote the book the way I did was because I was like, okay, you can discount me saying that they're planning this new world order. And that's fine.
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But you can't discount that I can lay out 17 quotes in a row of all these people, like the queen and all the politicians and all the royalty, all talking about it too. Like, okay, fine, you can discount me, but you can't discount them. They're all talking about the same thing. This is what they call themselves. This is their group.
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And they do have a plan. And you have to give them credit for taking a long-term approach. Look at this. They don't intend to accomplish everything right away. They know it'll take time. They know that they have to put people in positions of power to make these things happen. They know they have to make these moves incrementally or else people will flip out and be in the streets rioting.
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So they want to do it slowly so that we don't notice and so that it sticks. But it seems like lately they've kind of ramped this up. Ramped it up. So yeah, when you write about the New World Order and you talk about
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of one world government and this is the first time you're hearing about it, it understandably sounds totally insane. But I encourage people to hang in there because when you get through and you realize that it is a real thing and they are actively talking about it and that they've come up with concepts like conspiracy theorists to
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discredit people that are talking about this because they don't want people to know about. I mean, they'll talk about it publicly to a certain extent, but they don't want people actively complaining and plotting against them. So they'll try to make you look stupid as best as you can. And to be fair, there are a lot of people talking about this topic.
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that don't know what they're talking about, that are probably crazy. They do seem crazy. Yeah. There's a lot of that for sure. So, you know, I'm not trying to say that anybody that's talking about this stuff has it right, but just because it sounds crazy doesn't mean it doesn't really happen.
00:31:21
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It's like sometimes when I talk to people, you know, why I don't want to, let's say, have EMFs close to me all the time, I don't know the science behind it. So sometimes I can come off as like an emotional crazy person, even though I have read some research and a smarter people than me have interpreted the research for me.
00:31:42
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But those people not being able to explain and kind of really the inner workings of the octopus, the way guys like you and Jeff and James Corbett, they do give researchers a bad name. And it's funny that they came up with this term conspiracy theorist, and they've created a society where we police ourselves. So you come at me with something like that. I'm like,
00:32:10
Speaker
Are you one of those conspiracy theorists? So you've then feel, I'm putting pressure on you, my brethren, so they don't have to. It's ingenious. Yeah, it's very smart, huh? They've got us fighting against each other. They've got some people protecting us. And I've already, I've decided like a couple of years ago that whenever somebody called me a conspiracy theorist, I was going to correct them and say that I was a conspiracy analyst because it's not theory anymore.
00:32:38
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We're way past theory on a lot of these topics. Yeah, there's still some that may or may not be true. But for a lot of this stuff, it's not theory.
Public Resistance to Conspiracy Theories
00:32:48
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It's not theory that central banking is destroying the world. It's not theory that
00:32:53
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people in Washington DC are plotting to destroy foreign countries and kickstart wars and start false flags. That's a theory. That's happening. We're just analyzing them now. I don't really worry too much about the labels, but I know that nobody wants to be
00:33:14
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marginalized and made to look stupid. That's what that term conspiracy theorist is meant to do, but that the irony is that usually the conspiracy theorist guy has done way more research into the topics than the person that's calling them the conspiracy theorist. It shouldn't really
00:33:34
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be that much of an insult when it's like, you don't even know anything about it. How do you know I'm just some nutty conspiracy theorist if you don't know the first thing about it to begin with? So I don't worry too much about the labels and people trying to make you look stupid because I consider those people to just have no baseline knowledge of what we're even talking about to begin with. So of course, you sound crazy.
00:34:04
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You know what I think it is? Because I've said certain things to some friends, you know, I'll be reading books and, you know, I'd say, you know, this and this happened or this and this was, you know, planned operation or this was a fake terrorist attack. And people very quickly want to change the subject. They want me to stop talking about that. And we're dealing with
00:34:30
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you know, they don't want to hear it because A, and I understand why they don't, it's scary as fuck, it's terrifying, it's a complete, you know, the cognitive dissonance, the, you know, the difficulty to accept this reality that we live in. And it's very, it's understandable that people that have
00:34:54
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their world view things are the way they are yes there's some corruption politics but those guys they're trying their best and it's just hard with limited resources so they just are afraid because i'll be honest with you at one point after like let's say months and months of research i fell into a little bit of a an existential crisis depression very mild i mean i
00:35:14
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I don't want to exaggerate, but it was difficult for me to go through this, come out on the other end stronger. And I think a lot of people are just, they know if they pull that string, we're talking a massive unraveling because it's not just Cuba or it's not just what's happening in Syria. So I think people are just scared.
00:35:45
Speaker
Yeah. Of the truth. Yeah. Yeah, people are. They're scared of the truth. They don't, you know, because if this is true, then what does that mean? It means that there's some really bad people out there that don't have their best interests, you know, at heart. And it's like, well, yeah, that's true. That's what's happening. There are. And oh, if 9-11 wasn't what it appeared to be, then that might mean, then that means that
00:36:15
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that our government is lying to us. And if our government is lying to us than anything, then there's no barriers. They're liable to do anything. And it's like, yeah, right, exactly. That's what it means. So would you like to pretend that that stuff is not happening and just go with the official story of things? You can do that, but it won't be the truth. You'll be believing a lie.
00:36:44
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but a lot of people are fine with that. A lot of people don't want the truth. They don't think that they're going to fix anything or change anything. It's just going to complicate their lives. They got enough stuff going on. I mean, I can understand all that. I can understand it. I don't respect it. I don't want to be that way, but I get it. I understand why people wouldn't want to take on that responsibility because they might think,
00:37:09
Speaker
Great. I'll have this in my head. I'll now know that everything is totally backwards and I'm not going to be able to do anything about it. It's going to complicate my life. I'm going to feel helpless. I'm going to feel like I have no control. Now I'll be worried about what's coming next and I don't want to live like that. I'm just going to cover my ears and pretend like it doesn't happen.
00:37:34
Speaker
What would you offer those people? Let's say someone is on minimum wage, barely making ends meet, or someone has a child, or two children, two small children. What would you offer those people when they say, look, don't bother me. I don't have time for this, or what can I do? I'm just one person. That's just the way it is. We've always been run by kings, rulers. What would you offer those people to
00:37:59
Speaker
Perhaps bring them over to our side if that's such a thing. Well, with somebody that has kids, it's fairly easy. Well, you're going to be dead before your kids, theoretically. They're still going to have to live in this world.
00:38:19
Speaker
So, what do you want to do? You want to be part of the problem or you want to be part of the solution? Are you going to continue this insanity that's only going to get worse? The plans they have for humanity, we're starting to see through the corona situation, lack of freedom of movement, medical martial law, dystopian future, you have to have health. I mean, we see where this, you can't get on an airplane without all this- Microchipping.
00:38:45
Speaker
Yeah, all that stuff is bad. It's like, all right, so do you want to continue with this or do you want to have maybe the opportunity to stop this? Because if you do nothing, if you pretend that it doesn't exist and you just say, I don't care, I don't want to be a part of this, what am I going to do? Well, then you're going to get whatever future they have planned for you.
00:39:09
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if you understand what their plan is which they talk about openly you will know that that is not a future that you want.
00:39:18
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It's not good for you. It's not good for your family, your kids, humanity. It's all bad. So your choice is do nothing and be guaranteed of a shitty future for your kids or do something and at least you got a chance to to fix it. You might not you might not succeed. It might, you know, severely hurt the way you view the world. But who cares, man? Like it's the time for
00:39:44
Speaker
pretending that none of this stuff is happening is long gone. Because if we keep doing that, we're going to walk in, we're going to wake up one morning, and you're going to have to have, you know, you're going to be embedded with a microchip that's connected, you know, in a vaccine that's connected and fed into AI. And it's telling the computer whether or not you're, you know, tell the computer where your location is and who you're interacting with. And if you're interacting with the wrong type of
00:40:13
Speaker
conspiracy theorists, you're going to have your social credit score go down and all these things are on the drawing board. In fact, they're happening in places like China. It's not like us conspiracy theorists speculating about what the future may or may not look like. They're rolling it out right in front of our eyes. It's like we just have to be aware. You just have to connect a couple of dots to see where it's going.
Digital Surveillance and Government Overreach
00:40:41
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You also have to
00:40:43
Speaker
Most people are at a disadvantage because they think that it's not possible that there are psychopathic rulers that are trying to destroy them and put them into a digital concentration camp. Their mind can't even go there. They can't even think about that. So they just assume that that's not really happening. But it actually is happening. The walls of this digital prison are being built up around us. We just have to take our
00:41:12
Speaker
get away from our TV and look at what's happening and just try to think about this. It's hard to think about it like a psychopath, but if you think about it like a crazy person, things start to make a whole lot more sense. You can see where they're trying to reduce our ability to move. They're trying to reduce our ability to speak online through
00:41:34
Speaker
videos getting taken off or social media posts. We're seeing that happening lately where they're just being banned or they're getting fact checked on all kinds of things. It's happening. It's like you can't deny it anymore. It's happening. It's just happening.
00:41:51
Speaker
you know, right in front of our face and tapping it kind of slowly, although lately, it seems like they've kind of ramped things up with the Corona situation. But they'd been building this digital prison around us for a long, long time. And they've got it and they're so good at it, that they've got it to the point where if you talk about how it's being built,
00:42:10
Speaker
then you're the crazy person for just accurately pointing out observations about this. You've got to give them credit. They make us look stupid. They've done it. Like you said, they get people reflexively defending them like, oh, you're stupid. You're wrong. You're a conspiracy theorist and all these things.
00:42:29
Speaker
boy, they didn't even have to do any of the work. We did the work ourselves. We're pulling each other down and we're calling each other out for things that we know nothing about. You got to give them credit for developing this system where we're self-policing each other. We're watching each other to make sure nobody is talking about the truth too much because the truth is icky and it hurts my feelings and I don't want to feel that way. It's like,
00:42:58
Speaker
You know, like there's people that are like, I hate Donald Trump. He's horrible. And it's like, okay, did you vote for Obama? I like Obama. Obama's a good guy. Okay. Did you know that Obama dropped so many bombs on the Middle East that they ran out of them?
00:43:14
Speaker
And they're like, I don't want to have this conversation anymore. It's like, okay, now you don't want to talk. When we're criticizing your guy, you don't want to do it. But when we're criticizing the other guy, let's go after Donald Trump as much as we can.
00:43:29
Speaker
We've also got this really dishonest population that is unable to look at the flaws of their own group of people, their own political party or their own race, like some of the problems that are happening within their own race. They're always pointing the finger at somebody else. They're doing this to us. It's like, hang on a second. There's a lot of people not taking responsibility for their own actions too in this country. So I get in this dilemma where
00:43:58
Speaker
And Jeff and I are pretty good about this. We're talking about the government. We're talking about how evil they are and the media and all these people. And we're right about that.
00:44:09
Speaker
But we also have to acknowledge that there's a lot of criticism that belongs on the people as well. The people have allowed this to happen. The people have outsourced their critical thinking to like the media and politicians, like the two most dishonest groups of people you could ever find.
00:44:29
Speaker
Most people are like, you do the thinking for me because I don't want to do it because it's too hard. It's like, well, hang on a second. No wonder we've got big problems because we've got an out of control maniac government that's trying to put together this one world government to really control us all. And then we've got a bunch of people.
00:44:47
Speaker
that are taking no responsibility for their own role in this. They're not educating themselves. They're not trying to break free. They're fighting against other people that are trying to break free. It's like we're as much of the problem as these out of control globalist maniacs are too.
00:45:08
Speaker
I have to, whenever I'm criticizing these government operations, which is basically always, I also have to remember to criticize the people too because the people have been enablers of this. We've allowed this. We voted for it. We pretended like it's not happened. We've defended
00:45:27
Speaker
the Republicans against the Democrats, because that's our side and we're yelling at them for something. But it's like, hang on a second. Your side is starting wars too. Your side is voting on these things. All these people are like, Donald Trump is horrible. He's a dictator. All the congressional Democrats are yelling that. It's like, okay, then why did you authorize him to give a trillion dollars to the military this year?
00:45:56
Speaker
So if he's such an awful dictator, why did you vote for that? It's like, oh, well, we always vote for the military. It's like, okay, I see what it is. You guys are all phonies. This is all bullshit. You guys are pretending to fight and hate each other, but you're all working for the same team. So I have problems with the government, obviously, but I have
00:46:16
Speaker
I have problems with the people too, because I think the people need to get kicked in the ass and wake up to the reality that they're allowing this to happen, for one. They're part of the problem. They're enabling these criminals in Washington DC and in Wall Street to keep these scams going by us falling into that left, right Democrat, Republican,
00:46:39
Speaker
Paradigm where they're fighting where it's just two parties fighting against each other. It's like hang on a second We're all really on the same team like look up if you want to if you want to fight with someone look up to the people controlling you those are the people you should really be picking fights with because Because all of us
Political Control and Blackmail Tactics
00:46:56
Speaker
We're all on the same team in the end. We're all going to be put into the digital concentration camps. We're all going to have our voices reduced and everything. So stop bickering with each other and identify and fight against the real enemies here.
00:47:13
Speaker
real pressures. It's like one dude I was, uh, Marty, I was interviewing last week. He's like, we're at war, you know, this is, this is a war between shall we say the common man and you know, the would be controllers of the world.
00:47:33
Speaker
And the issue, I love what you said, it's not just them. And to a great extent, the media and entertainment industries, they are breeding us and brainwashing us and shaping us to be ignorant and apathetic. So what's ignorance and apathy? People are like, no, no, don't care.
00:47:57
Speaker
I don't know. I don't care. I don't care. They don't care because this is what is thrown at us. We're throwing mindless entertainment. We kept poor. So it's like if you're poor and you're struggling to make ends meet, are you going to be caring about social issues, political issues, and unfortunately? That quote from John Francis Highland, the mayor of New York City,
00:48:23
Speaker
talking about the Rockefellers. I was actually, I had a few quotes here that we, I thought I might kind of discuss with you. I'm glad you already picked up that thread. I like another one here. From 1992, George H. W. Bush to a journalist says, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.
00:48:51
Speaker
Yeah, he would know. I called George H. W. Bush one of the top five worst human beings to live in the 20th century. That guy was responsible for some of the, some horrific things. And he would know, he would know that they would, you know, that, you know, if the American people found out what they were doing, they would lynch it. Yeah, and that goes for
00:49:17
Speaker
That goes for a lot of the politicians. It's not limited to the Bush family. I mean, the Clintons are a crime family as well. But there's a lot of politicians that have done that. Part of the reason, I think people wonder like, why is it that these politicians are so screwed up? Why do they always get busted in bad situations or they're doing stupid things or they're lying or what?
00:49:45
Speaker
Those are the types of personalities that want to get into politics at a high level. Narcissistic, psychopathic predators that are looking for money and power, control, they're looking to enrich themselves, enslave other people. It's a magnet for psychopaths. And so when you get all those people all together in one place, you can't act surprised when they start
00:50:11
Speaker
doing psychopathic things like planning wars and plotting how they're going to steal gold reserves and how they're going to silence journalists that expose their lies and things like that or how they're going to rig an election or how they're going to
00:50:29
Speaker
get some whistleblower thrown in prison for the rest of their life. So this is what you get. You get the worst people, you put them in a position where they have power and influence, and you get what we currently have, which is just a batch of psychopathic
00:50:51
Speaker
people and personalities that are all trying to enrich themselves. I was talking to Sean Atwood. He's a journalist who did prison time for ecstasy distribution, and they talk about how some people consider going into prison criminal college, where they go in as minor criminals, and while they're there, they do two years in prison, and when they come out, they're like advanced.
00:51:21
Speaker
They have all sorts of new techniques. They know how to do things differently. They've got an education on criminality. That happens in Congress too. That happens with politicians that wind up in parliament or wherever.
00:51:33
Speaker
They go in there new as young psychopaths that are ambitious, and they learn things that they never even considered. They learn scams that they never thought of. They get connected up with people in foreign countries that they can deal with. They learn how to launder money. They learn how to use the media to their advantage. By the time they've been in there for a little while,
00:51:52
Speaker
They come out with a PhD in criminality. That's not from going to prison, although people who go to prison have that happen. That's from going into politics. You come out with the same skill set. You learn how to manipulate people and become a grifter. You take your skills to a new level. That's why a lot of these guys that started, like Nancy Pelosi in the United States, who's the
00:52:17
Speaker
Speaker of the House, she's been in politics for 40 years. She's worth $100 million. You make $180,000 a year doing her job. That should never happen. You should not have $100 million after doing that, but they know how to run the scam. They know how to do the grips. In fact, Congress even in 2013 passed a law making it legal
00:52:42
Speaker
for them to participate in insider trading. So now it's legal. Now that they've legalized their crimes. But this is the sort of mentality that you have. You get these people that come into politics, and I don't think many of them have good intentions to begin with, but even if they did, it doesn't take long before those good intentions are
00:52:59
Speaker
are bred out of you, or you walk into an Epstein related trap, and then they got you forever. So then they don't even have to, you know, explain to you how the game works. They just tell you, you go do this, this and this. And if you don't, we destroy your life. And it used to be that it was like,
00:53:17
Speaker
a guy cheating on his wife, they'd have the goods on him, but that's old. That doesn't do much anymore. Or that somebody was like a closeted homosexual, they didn't want that coming out. That works, but it doesn't work all that well because thoughts on that have changed over the last 40 or 50 years.
00:53:35
Speaker
but if they get you as a pedophile and they get you on tape doing that, which happens, there's no expiration date on that. They own you forever. You get these maniacs that are in positions of power in government that are getting exploited, having weird things. As an example, in the UK in the 70s,
00:54:01
Speaker
They were negotiating the EEC, which was the precursor to the EU. And when they're making the negotiations, they had to deal with fishing rights, or the UK's fishing rights. And the UK had like 77% of the fishing rights. And after this new partnership with the EEC, they had like 22% of the fishing rights. It was a horrible, awful deal.
00:54:26
Speaker
And people were like, why did Ted Heath sign this deal? Like, why did they get him into this situation where he gave away all of our fishing rights and we signed this shitty deal and like, we're involved in this and like, okay, I guess we're in it now, but nobody could really figure out why it was. Well, cause Ted Heath was being blackmailed because he was a dirty pedophile. He used to take boys out on his yacht and then rape them and strangle them and throw them off the boat.
00:54:53
Speaker
And the Germans, apparently the Germans knew about this. It might have been, I don't know, it might not have been the Germans, but the word on the street is that the Germans were the ones that found out about it and blackmailed them. And it's like, oh, well, that explains it. You know, so a lot of these things that people look at decisions that have happened in their country that were like real head scratching decisions, like you just, they couldn't figure out why this happened. If they go back and examine them now and think,
00:55:23
Speaker
was this politician being blackmailed? Well, then it all starts to make a lot more sense. That happens a lot too. For the people that are watching this that are new to this concept of the dirtiness of government, it happens all over the place. You think that
00:55:44
Speaker
The government would want the best people that they could have in running the government, but they don't. They want the worst people. They want the most compromised people running the government because those people can be controlled. Some do-gooder guy like Ron Paul can't get controlled because
00:56:01
Speaker
He's a good guy, not doing bad things. But if you're a guy that's doing bad things in your off hours and they know about it, they want you in that position of power because they can tell you what to do and you'll do it. And if you ever decide that you're not going to do it, they've got the leverage over you to make you do it.
00:56:20
Speaker
So everything makes a lot more sense when you look at government through that, when you think, okay, these are the worst people you could find because they want compromised people, people that have big
00:56:33
Speaker
character flaws like their alcoholics or their drug addicts or they're cheating on their wives or their pedophiles or they're looting their old company that they worked for or whatever. They want that. They want the guy with the big secret.
00:56:51
Speaker
and they want to put them in power because those guys are typically psychopaths anyway, and they'll probably do your bidding. But if they don't, then you use that one secret to make them stay on track and do it. So people look at the world
00:57:07
Speaker
If they look at it differently now, they should look at politicians as like, where did all these maniacs come from? A lot of them know each other, especially in the UK. They all went through boarding schools together, so they know each other. It's like they've been groomed for it. Part of that is because they have been. They want these people to continue this path of government control. They want controllable human beings in there, and so they get that. Then you just
00:57:36
Speaker
watch those people in office and watch them make poor decision after poor decision. You're like, this guy is an idiot. This guy can't possibly be this dumb. And you're like, he's not. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's being told to do it. He's being forced to do it if he doesn't want to do it. And then you're like, okay, well, now government makes a lot more sense.
00:57:56
Speaker
Charlie, I kind of feel like you've hit probably on one of the most disturbing, but at the same time, most important topics here. And this is just to kind of backtrack, this is for folks that are new to this kind of stuff. Yeah.
00:58:20
Speaker
You know, it's difficult to believe a lot of these things because you think what would you do in a situation and like we would like a normal person would ever do that. And what Charlie is saying is these people are not normal people. They're not like you and me, they're psychopaths, right? And I just want for folks that are completing you to this. I know it's not the most pleasant thing to listen to, but you know what?
00:58:45
Speaker
Life is a matter of duality. There's the good, the bad. Can you unpack that a little bit more, Charlie, for folks? To what great extent does this pedophilia play? How prevalent is this?
00:59:05
Speaker
And I mean, I'd go as far as to say, it's satanic pedophilia, but, you know, you kind of take it anywhere. Explain to folks what's up. It is, yeah, it's like you said, it's dark, obviously. You don't want to talk about it. You don't really want to even think about it. If you're a normal person,
00:59:27
Speaker
You have empathy and you can't imagine doing unspeakable things to people or specifically to children. So when you look at other people, you kind of take your morals and you project them onto somebody else and you think, well, I wouldn't do that, therefore that person wouldn't do it. And usually what it is is that
00:59:51
Speaker
If you're a good person, you have friends that are similar to you and none of you would do it. You wouldn't think to do it. But psychopathic people and people with personality disorders and things like that, people that have been abused themselves, it changes their brain, changes the way they work. It changes the way they see things. They don't have the empathy part of your brain that tells you
01:00:19
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this would hurt me. I wouldn't do it to someone else because I know how that would feel. When you don't have that in your brain anymore as the final barrier to prevent you from doing unspeakable things, it frees you up to just commit whatever sort of crimes you want to. There's no
01:00:38
Speaker
there's no voice in your head telling you to stop, telling you that this isn't right. And so it's hard for us to imagine what that must be like. And so we just assume that nobody could be like that, but that's not the case. There are a lot of people that are very sick. I think, you know, I mean, stats run from 2% to 5% of the population as being psychopathic. Not to say that all psychopaths are pedophiles, it's not, but there's a percentage of people that are
01:01:08
Speaker
that operate like that. And you asked, how prevalent is this? It is the glue that keeps the system together. It is so much a part of this that if it were removed, the system would fall apart. Because the pedophilia component is like a gang. If you're gonna join a gang, like the Crips or the Bloods, they always say,
01:01:34
Speaker
It's blood in and blood out. It means you got to commit some sort of violent act to get in, and the only way you're getting out is through death. Now, in the case of these hardcore, extremely wealthy, psychopathic, political
01:01:52
Speaker
families. It's the same thing. You commit the crime in front of everybody. They know that you're in the club now. You've seen them do it. They've seen you do it. You're in. Nobody's talking. Nobody's getting out. It might be filmed. It might not be filmed, whatever, but it is, you have to commit that act.
01:02:14
Speaker
in order to be accepted and once you're accepted, there's no way out. There's no getting back from this. Some people are willing participants in it. Some people are looking for money and power and fame and they're willing to do whatever they want. Some people are born into it. Some people have had
01:02:31
Speaker
these families that commit, the reason why you said satanic in nature is because there's satanic ritual abuse. There is a component of that that traumatizes people and breaks up their, shatters their soul and their personality early on and creates controllable people. It's really sick and super dark and it's not a place that
01:02:53
Speaker
most people want to dwell on, but it's important to know this. The reason why we talk about it is not to bum everybody out and not to glamorize it because there's nothing glamorous about it.
01:03:08
Speaker
But we would not be doing the explanation of how everything works justice if we didn't talk about it, because it is a part of this. It's a part of the control structure. If I write a book about control structures and then I leave out this, it wouldn't be a full part of the book. So this happens. It's not to say that every politician is a pedophile. I'm not saying that.
Thwarting Globalist Agendas
01:03:31
Speaker
But what it is, is that every politician has something that they want. And the people that are in positions of power to give it to them, they identify what that is. For some people, it's money. Some people, it's fame. Some people, it's, you know, I want hot chicks. Some of them, it's little boys. You know what I mean? It's whatever they want.
01:03:54
Speaker
they'll make sure that they get it, but that comes at a price. So if you're a pedophile and your people have asked me like, what is it about being a Boy Scout troop leader that makes you a pedophile? And I'm like, no, no, it's not that. It's not the job of being a Boy Scout troop leader that makes you a pedophile. It's that pedophiles go where the hunting is good.
01:04:22
Speaker
That's why they go and become a Boy Scout troop leader. It's not that job that turns them that like that. It's that.
01:04:29
Speaker
you go, if that's what you're hunting, then you go where there's good hunting, you go into a place where you can have control. So you might be you might be a priest, because you get all kinds of control, you get nobody will challenge you. Your word is is from God. You know, people could bring allegations against you and you say this is crazy. No one, you know, I'm a priest, I would never do anything like that. How dare you? You know, this is you have a troubled child there that's making up things.
01:04:56
Speaker
And they'll be believe you know that the priest will always be believe maybe not so much now but but that's how it's been the boy scout troop leader is gonna get those kids out into the mountains all by themselves you know without any parent supervision something bad gonna happen they're gonna say don't say anything so we see this happen in our society we understand that this does happen that it's a thing.
01:05:17
Speaker
But in politics, it's a disproportionate percentage of them are wrapped up in this, more so than any other sort of industry. And that's by design, of course, because it's the ultimate control mechanism. You've got somebody that's a dirty pedophile, and you've got them on tape with somebody, and then that guy two years later doesn't want to vote the way you need him to vote on a particular piece of legislation. You just make a phone call and say,
01:05:47
Speaker
it's important that you vote our way on this. And that guy doesn't need the lecture. He knows what they're talking, and the vote goes that way. Because if it doesn't, then you become Dennis Hastert, who was the Speaker of the House, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, boom, here's all the evidence of him raping boys for 40 years. It's like that guy didn't go along with the program at the very end, and they
01:06:10
Speaker
They showed what happens to you. They just bring all the information out. They dump it on the media and they go, see? And that guy's in prison. So this is how it works. It's dirty. It's dirty all the way around. It's being run by dirty people that have no soul and no conscience and they don't have a problem destroying somebody.
01:06:32
Speaker
as you know, and the politicians are destroying, you know, the pedophile politicians are destroying some kids life, you know, by by doing unspeakable things to them. And they don't care because they get it's, it's just unbelievably dark.
01:06:46
Speaker
Though I don't want to dwell on it, like I said, it's important for us to acknowledge that this is how things get done and this is how control works. It is everywhere. It's in all the politics all over the world. There is some aspect of this that finds its way in.
01:07:10
Speaker
And that's what David Ike has been talking about. And he's been called crazy for bringing up the, you know, the, the Jimmy Savile stuff and the Ted Heath and the Royal family and everything, only to be proven correct, you know, only over, over time to be proven to, to be, to be right on. And we've got the Epstein thing with, with his connections to Prince Andrew. No surprise, no surprise. You know, all those, all those people in, in, in the British, uh,
01:07:38
Speaker
monarchy are either pedophiles or one degree of separation away from a known pedophile themselves. Hell, Prince Charles and Diana, when they were going through a tough part in their marriage, they brought in a counselor to help them work their way through it. The counselor they brought in was Jimmy Savile, who's a known pedophile, close friend of theirs.
01:08:05
Speaker
That is an integral part of this whole thing. It's a part of the control structure. Nobody is exempt from it. It's important that we talk about it. We can leave it here, but people need to know that this is not just something you say against a politician to try and make them look bad when you talk about something like this. It's a real thing that actually happens.
01:08:35
Speaker
I think what people need to realize is that these conspiracy researchers and analysts, as you call yourself, Charlie, they're not having fun. They're not out there putting their lives, their reputations on the line for fun or for glamour or to be a lovable rogue or a rebel.
01:09:01
Speaker
We're talking about some seriously, seriously disturbing stuff that these guys have, not just the balls to do it, but they're doing it for the rest of us. You're writing this book. In some ways, you're putting a certain aspect of yourself at risk, whether that's just your reputation or your career opportunities or whatever, or your ability to make friendships with people.
01:09:29
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potentially. So you're not in it for the glitz and the glamour. You're actually doing a service for us all and I really appreciate that and I want to thank you.
01:09:46
Speaker
And I sincerely hope that there's some tough things that have been discussed here, but I hope people start to at least appreciate that guys like David Icke, yourself, and Jeff Burwick, and all the other guys out there, I follow a few of them. At the moment, not so much. I'm just kind of busy with other projects. But this is not an easy job that you have kind of taken on.
01:10:15
Speaker
But it's not, like you said, it's not a topic you take any pleasure in. I have a daughter. I can empathize with somebody that, you know,
01:10:28
Speaker
could have something horrible happen in their life to their kids, it's the worst thing possible. Obviously, there's no pleasure in talking about it, but like I said, I'd be doing it a disservice if I didn't mention it as one of the aspects of control. It's not all of it. It's not the only one, of course. There's a variety of tools that they have to keep everybody controlled, but it's one of them.
01:10:58
Speaker
And it's the one that doesn't get talked about because for obvious reasons, it's hard to talk about it. We don't like to think that it happens. Everybody feels gross afterwards talking about it, but to pretend like it's not there would be worse. So yeah, I talk about it, but I don't make it the focal point of everything. Yeah. So let's kind of talk
01:11:27
Speaker
First of all, I want your honest opinion. Do you think this New World Order globalist plan agenda will come to fruition? Do you think they will succeed? And what do you think it will take on our behalf to thwart their plans? What do you think should happen? I think that at the rate we're going right now with
01:11:57
Speaker
The plans that they're putting in place through this Corona situation, digital ID thing, travel restrictions, putting people in there, they're definitely getting everybody prepared for
01:12:11
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a lifetime of just doing what the authorities tell you to do. That's a bad situation. I like the protests. I don't like the riots. I like the protests, though, because it sends the message that we're not going to go down without a fight. Now, I think it's important to remember
01:12:30
Speaker
that we outnumber them vastly. So if we decide as a group collectively that we're not participating in this anymore, it will end. That's the trick though, because we have the many, they are the few, but they've got
01:12:47
Speaker
They've got the connections to power. They are the power. They've got the connections to money. They've got the media. They can control the message. They have a lot of things that make them seem much bigger than they really are. So it sometimes seems like it's a fight we can't win.
01:13:05
Speaker
But really, we most certainly can win this war. We can prevent this new world order from coming to fruition by first recognizing that they're trying to do this. That's kind of the first step. We have to, as humanity, realize that this is happening. Then once you realize that it's happening, then you can go about
01:13:28
Speaker
not participating in it or trying to prevent them from making it happen. So as long as we're still fighting about whether or not these people are trying to kill us or enslave us all, we're never going to get anywhere. That's the first step that has to happen. So I think we can stop them, but we need to get more people aware of this situation, which is the reason why I try to talk about it as much as I can.
01:13:53
Speaker
because the more I talk about it, the more chance that someone else will hear it, and they'll start talking about it, and that's how it starts. Now, talking about it isn't gonna fix the problem, for sure, but we're not gonna fix the problem until we know that there is, you know, until everyone knows that there is a problem, and so we're still in that early stage where we're trying to alert everybody, but whether it's 9-11 or, you know, this corona situation,
01:14:20
Speaker
Sometimes when they run these operations, they have the exact opposite effect that they're trying to. They wind up waking up a lot of people to the plan. 9-11 was the wake up call for me. No, I never was really a big fan of government, but I didn't know how bad they were until
01:14:40
Speaker
After 9-11 and that woke up a lot of people obvious obviously I'm not alone it woke up millions and millions of people to that I feel like this corona situation the authoritarian lockdowns and all that stuff and what's happening in Australia I think that's having the having the reverse Effect that the controllers want it's waking up a lot of people to like hey these governments are kind of out of control and like They're not all they're not
01:15:06
Speaker
write about a lot of the stuff that they're talking about. And the media is involved in this, and it could wake up, or it will wake up even more people. It might be that a couple of years from now, a whole new generation of people are like, God, those lockdowns were bullshit back in 2020. I didn't even realize it at the time. I was wearing my mask. I was doing all these things. I was following the rules. And now that I look back on it,
01:15:32
Speaker
Holy shit, they were totally lying to us about all this. And it's like, yes, yes, yes, wake up. Okay, good. So there's going to be events like this that are gonna do two things. Some people are gonna buy the narrative even more. They're never gonna wake up. They're always gonna do what the government tells them. And something like this is they're just gonna go in their house every time they're told to and wear their masks and wrap themselves in plastic wrap and do whatever the government tells them.
01:16:02
Speaker
And then there's going to be another percentage of people that they're going to never trust the government again. They're never going to trust the media. They're never going to trust these scientists. And they're going to be skeptical of anything that the media and the government tells them to do. And that's great. So there's always kind of a
01:16:20
Speaker
There's always two sides to these events. They're horrible. They are designed to remove our freedoms from us, but they also have a counter effect, which is they wake up a lot of people as well. That's a good thing. I think we all are in agreement that we want that. We want an awakening of everything. Will it happen fast enough?
01:16:45
Speaker
I don't know. I just don't know. The people that I interact with can see through this, but I do recognize that there's a huge percentage of the population that just
01:16:59
Speaker
They can't figure it out. They don't even know that they should be trying to figure this out. They're just going to do whatever their television tells them to do, and that's really dangerous. Not everybody will wake up, obviously, but we've got a large percentage realizing what's happening.
01:17:19
Speaker
And that's the first step. That's the first step in changing anything. That's what they say when you're going to Alcoholics Anonymous or something. The first step in fixing your problem is admitting that you have a problem. So we have to admit that we have a problem with
01:17:34
Speaker
our government, our media, our banking, the military. All these people in positions of power constantly are lying to us because they want us to feel one way and back their decisions to go do the wars that they want or start, you know, enslave humanity. And they'll lie to us and tell us whatever we want. So the first thing we need to do is recognize that we have a problem with those people. Those people are the problem.
01:17:58
Speaker
And then once we do that, then it's like, all right, how are we going to go about fixing the problem? So that's unfortunately, we're still on step one. We're still need to get enough people to recognize that we have a problem. Yeah. They're very good at silencing, censoring all these guys, you know, the amount of YouTube channels that have been shut down or, you know, videos getting deleted is, is ridiculous.
False Flags and Media Manipulation
01:18:25
Speaker
Any video that I've done on Sandy Hook has been taken down. Any post that I had on Facebook about that, I was getting put in Facebook jail last summer of 2019 for posts that I put on Facebook in 2016. All of a sudden it just came up, boom.
01:18:52
Speaker
30 days in the Facebook jail and another one. It happened four times and they were all Sandy Hook related. Jesus. That's a great segue. We don't have to talk about that particular case or event, but can you tell folks, are mad crazy shooters and terrorists
01:19:19
Speaker
Bombing the hell out of all sorts of locations all around the world. Sometimes and sometimes not. I had a really good conversation when I was at Enarcapulco. My first year there, I wound up in a bar with Ole Damagard.
01:19:37
Speaker
who, um, love him, love him too. He's a good dude. And we talked about operation Gladio till like two 30 in the morning. And, and only, only at a place like an archipelco, can you have these, can you wind up in the bar with like,
01:19:54
Speaker
Ole Damagard and Mark Devlin and David Icke and all these, you know, having these crazy conversations. Some of these events are real. Some of these events are fake.
01:20:13
Speaker
And some of them are kind of like a hybrid. And it's tough to, so like as an example of, here's one, the 7-7 London train bombing. This is kind of a combination of all of them. Because there was a drill running the night going into the morning of this 7-7 bombing.
01:20:42
Speaker
And it was run by a guy named Peter Power. And Peter Power owns a company that does crisis avoidance. He runs simulations and drills with companies or organizations to see if this happens, this would be our response to it. If a terrorist event happens, we would do this, this, and this. And so they were running a simulation at these two train station entrances.
01:21:11
Speaker
And the simulation was that a bomb went off in these two train stations and also on a double decker bus. So they ran, they brought in all these people and they were running the scenario. They'd been up all night and they were going to, they were going to role play this explosion. And while they were
01:21:34
Speaker
role-playing an explosion of just a random simulation they were doing at these two randomly picked train stations in this one double-decker bus, they blew up.
01:21:51
Speaker
in real life, exactly the way the simulation was being run. Like he's on radio and on TV doing these interviews, you can find him, I put the quotes from him in the book, where he's talking to the reporters and he's saying, we were simulating an event precisely like this, when the real thing happened. And the reporters in both cases, in all cases, I think I've got three different clips I put in the book, it's the reporters like, I'm sorry,
01:22:18
Speaker
What did you say? You were simulating this? And something happened similar? And the guy's like, no. It happened precisely the way we were simulating. It happened in the same train stations. It happened at the same time. It happened on the same butt. This is a mathematical impossibility. It's not possible to have a drill that goes live exactly the way that this happened.
01:22:44
Speaker
This was a setup. This was what happens when they're manufacturing terrorism events. They'll run drills and things like this as a way to preposition assets, people, bombs, hardware, equipment, whatever, media, block off areas. They do this all the time. They'll run a simulation and
01:23:08
Speaker
and then the simulation will go live. That is impossible to explain away in any way other than there's some fuckery happening here. It has to be.
01:23:19
Speaker
And that happens all the time, 9-11, there's 40 plus drills simulating a variety of things, one of which was planes flying into the Pentagon and planes flying into the Twin Towers. And while they're simulating this on the morning of 9-11, the exact same thing is actually happening. That can't happen. Same thing with these school shootings and things like that. That particular school in Connecticut, the school that we cannot really openly speak about,
01:23:47
Speaker
Was running a drill at the exact same time, simulating the exact same thing when it happened, allegedly. Then as a response to that, they bulldozed the school and bulldozed the lady's house. Like, what? There's a lot of this stuff that is going on. It's been going on for decades. Like I said, Olia and I were talking about Operation Gladio, which was happening in
01:24:14
Speaker
terrorist events being manufactured and run by essentially NATO in Europe after World War Two, in order to create chaos and shape, you know, public opinion about certain things to shape policy. They do this. And once again, it takes us back to us having to
01:24:34
Speaker
suspend the way we think about the world and think about it through their eyes. We're thinking there's no way you would do this. That's evil. That's horrible. You couldn't do that. No, no. They think they're the ones streaming up these plans. There's no barriers they won't cross. They don't care. They'll blow up a school bus or blow up a
01:24:56
Speaker
a train station to kill a bunch of people. If it moves their agenda along, they don't care. This is how they do that. There's false flags. For people that are new to this,
01:25:09
Speaker
A false flag doesn't mean a fake event. It doesn't mean it was faked. It just means that the blame is being placed on somebody else. It means that it is, you know, we're making, you know, in World War II, the German Reichstag building was attacked and burned and, you know, and everything. And they said that the Polish army did that. Well, what it was, it was a bunch of Germans dressed up like the Polish army that did that. So they would create the impression that the enemy did this to them.
01:25:39
Speaker
and then use that attack as the justification to retaliate against that enemy, the enemy they wanted to retaliate against all the time, they just never had a really good excuse. So they invent an excuse. They make it look like your enemy is attacking you never really all that hard, just enough to get your attention and enough to get people really pissed off, but not enough to like destroy your country or anything. But they
01:26:03
Speaker
They create that enemy, they have them attack them on purpose, and then they come back with the oversized reaction, which we saw in 9-11, which was, oh no, Muslim terrorists attacked the United States and killed 3,000 people. We now need to start wars that will last the next 20 years, suck up $6 trillion worth of money, and kill millions of people. So that's how it works. So the false flag part
01:26:31
Speaker
doesn't refer to the event as being a non-event. It just means that the blame for the event will be placed on somebody that wasn't responsible for it. Like in the case of 9-11, 19 Arab hijackers with box cutters. They didn't have anything to do with 9-11. Sorry. That's the cover story. That's the lie. Let me see if I got this right.
01:26:55
Speaker
They create a problem, let's say, I'm just kind of improvising here, create a problem, perhaps some type of deadly infectious agent is going to, you know, a little organism is going to kill us all, so that's the problem.
01:27:14
Speaker
The reaction, oh my God, we are all terrified. We're all going to get this infectious whatever allegedly and die. So the solution is, you know, perhaps some type of medication that we can inject ourselves in. Maybe that's not take away our freedom to fly, our freedom to meet our families and gather together. And that's the solution that we cry out for ourselves because of the problem that
01:27:49
Speaker
Yeah, the problem reaction solution. Create the problem that will give you the reaction that you want, which is, ah, we're all going to die. Save us. And then the solution is the solution that they always wanted to bring in in the first place, but they knew they never had support for until this new problem that they created. So you create the problem.
01:28:07
Speaker
That is great. Do I have it right? You have it right. I make a good psychopath.
01:28:13
Speaker
manufacture the reaction, then offer the solution. The solution is something that's bad for them, but sounds good because it comes in the form of, we're going to save you from this problem. Well, the problem they created in the first place. They create it and then they sell you the solution. The solution is always shitty. It's never what you want. It's always like, well,
01:28:36
Speaker
Well, you said you didn't want to live through that problem again, right? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, well, so this is what we have to do. You have to take your shoes off before you get on an airplane. You have to, we have to read all your emails. We have to be able to, you know, all these things that happened in the US and the Patriot Act after 9-11 weren't accidental. This was the plan. They wanted to impose those things all along, but they couldn't.
01:28:56
Speaker
because the people would say, get the fuck out of here. I'm not doing any of that stuff. Oh, but after you get a couple planes flying into buildings, all of a sudden it's do whatever you need to do, do whatever you need to do to make sure this stuff never happens again. And then, and so, and that's fine. If
01:29:14
Speaker
The people you're saying do something about this are like good people, you and me and the audience and decent people that are trying to find solutions. But it's never those people like we talked about. It's do whatever you need to do, psychopathic, pedophile, maniac, bankers and politicians. It's like, oh, well, when you tell them to do whatever needs to be done,
01:29:36
Speaker
It's going to be bad. They're going to loot the place. They're going to make sure that they are at the top class of society and everybody else is down below them. They'll make it so that you're living in a whole different planet than them. That's where we're going. That's where we're hitting with this current situation that we've seen in 2020, which was another invisible enemy, kind of like terrorism. It's everywhere. Can't see it.
01:30:06
Speaker
but it's everywhere, it could be around the corner, could be getting in your mask, could be going in through your eyes, could be coming in through your toilet if you live in an apartment complex, according to like the Washington Post or whoever wrote that crazy story. So it's like the stories are insane, the people's reaction to everything is insane, you keep everybody cooped up in their house, they go a little bit nuts, you take away their jobs and livelihood. We're all like on edge and,
01:30:35
Speaker
you know, about to lose our mind. And we don't want this anymore. So they're going to offer you a solution to get back to the new normal, which is just an Orwellian term if there ever was one to get you back to the new normal and the new normal is
01:30:51
Speaker
It's not normal. It's new, but it's not going to be normal. It's going to be horrible, but you're going to normalize it because it's going to be the only option you have, and so it will become normal on some level. Walking around and seeing people wearing masks now is normal. It's insane. It's not right, but
01:31:12
Speaker
If I went to the grocery store in February and someone and everyone was wearing masks, that would be abnormal. If I go to the grocery store now and everybody's got masks on, that is unfortunately now normal. So this new normal thing, it happens like that. It can happen fast and everybody gets on board, but they've got to scare you. The only way this works is through fear because logic
01:31:41
Speaker
will defeat this, and honesty will defeat this, but fear keeps everybody not thinking for themselves, trusting experts that they shouldn't trust, trusting Fauci and Bill Gates and these people that come in, and you're just like, I don't know enough about this, but you seem to, you look like you know what you're doing, or these people have told us that you know what you're doing, so I'm in no position to question your authority, because I don't understand how viruses work, so I'm just gonna trust you.
01:32:08
Speaker
Okay, well, that's fine if you've got somebody that you actually trust. But like, you don't know who these people are. I know who Bill Gates is. Bill Gates is a maniac. He's not on your side at all. He's not some geeky guy who's like, Oh, I just want to help everyone with vaccines. No, he wants you dead. He wants you. He wants the earth.
01:32:25
Speaker
cleansed of all of us people. His dad was the head of Planned Parenthood, which was started as a eugenics organization. Their core is depopulation. His dad ran it. That's the agenda. Margaret Sanger founded it, handed it over to Bill Gates Sr. And now Bill Gates Jr. is running the depopulation operation. But God forbid you bring that up to somebody that has no idea
01:32:50
Speaker
about the backstory and you look crazy. You look insane talking about that, but it's like, hang on a second. There's more to this story that the media is not telling you. That's one of the things that I think people that are new to this information in this world,
01:33:10
Speaker
their relationship with the media is much different than my relationship with the media. I don't trust the mainstream corporate media for anything. I know that they tell you like 80% truth and 20% lies or whatever, but you're better off to just not believe anything. The problem is that
01:33:28
Speaker
A lot of people, their relationship with their nightly news and their media is that they make the assumption that if there was a big story, like let's say Bill Gates is actually not who he says he is. He's a maniac. He's trying to depopulate through vaccines and everything. Most people make the assumption that if that was true, they would hear that on their nightly news.
01:33:52
Speaker
And if they're not hearing it on their nightly news, it can't be true. It must not be true because it's such a huge story. It would have to be talked about all the time. What they don't understand is that like here in the United States, if you watch MSNBC, which is another network channel, there's Fox News and there's CNN and there's MSNBC, the MS in MSNBC stands for Microsoft. So like Bill Gates has control of that network.
01:34:22
Speaker
through their relation, at least some control over that. The media is involved in this. The media is not doing their job of talking about who these people really are, because who these people really are, these people have influence in the media. Bill Gates has a lot of influence in the media, so you're not gonna hear these stories. So like the casual observer who might see a meme or something about how Bill Gates is a maniac,
01:34:50
Speaker
They don't know if that's true or false, but they assume that it's false because if it was actually true, they would have heard about it on their nightly news. And since they're not hearing about it, then it can't, they just assume it can't be true, but that's not the case. There's a lot of things that are true that don't get discussed on the nightly news because the nightly news is controlled. And so it's this dangerous thing where it's like the news is lying to you outright about a lot of things every day. They tell you things that aren't true.
01:35:20
Speaker
But then they also lie by omission. They intentionally don't talk about certain stories that are true.
01:35:31
Speaker
that most definitely are interesting. People would want to know more about this, but they don't talk about that. It's because they're trying to hide it. They're trying to make sure that that doesn't get promoted. The media's role in this is very important. I talk about in the Octopus book these eight tentacles.
01:35:51
Speaker
I think that the banking is the most dangerous. But right after that is the media, because the media has this ability to change the way people view reality. And we all do it. I have a marketing degree. So my degree in college is marketing, which is trying to convince people to buy things they don't need. So I know how this kind of works. And marketing is the least
01:36:20
Speaker
dangerous. It's like I get you to buy this kind of toothpaste instead of that kind of toothpaste because I work for that toothpaste. That's not that big of a deal. That's sales. But the media, when the media does it, it has direct consequences that are much bigger. They get you to think that there's not a war happening in some place where there is a war or they get you to think that
01:36:45
Speaker
this country needs to be invaded because they have a dictator who is doing horrible things to their people, and we, the United States, need to go in and liberate them from their dictator. Now, that's usually a lie. It's usually that the dictator isn't doing what we want them to do, so we create this problem. But the media can convince the population that we need to invade Afghanistan.
01:37:10
Speaker
And everyone was like, did Afghanistan do 9-11? They're like, well, we think he might be hiding out there. Okay, so we're going to go kill all the Afghanistan people because
01:37:27
Speaker
And look, we're still there, 20 years later, and there's still a lot of people that are like, fuck yeah, America, get those guys in Afghanistan. For what? What do they do? So we can be tricked pretty easily by the media. So it's important for us to know how devious the media can be, because when we know that, then
01:37:51
Speaker
then we understand that they can lie to us. They're not going to tell us the whole truth. They're going to bury stories from coming out so that we never hear about them. They're going to promote stories that are totally fake, like Russiagate, like Russia influenced the election. The whole thing was fake. And then if I call them out on that, I'm a conspiracy theorist. See how it works? It's like they've got it down to a science where they can make you look stupid for not following along with the lies
01:38:20
Speaker
But these days, man, I just don't have much. I don't care as much. I'll still stand there and say, you can call me whatever you want. You're still lying about this. Your news organization is making these claims that are fake. You're using sources that are false. You're getting information from the CIA, which is whatever.
01:38:40
Speaker
And I don't care what you say, I'm still going to point out these truths. And it's like, slowly it's happening. More and more people are kind of waking up to this, which is good. But if I could emphasize one point from this talk, it's that people need to do a better job of
01:39:01
Speaker
of being critical with what they accept from the mainstream media that they're reading because there's a lot of lying happening there and it's for a reason. And we can't just assume that whatever they're telling us is the truth without checking it out. A lot of times if you check it out, it doesn't even take all that much checking into to find out that it's a lie. And they'll use terms like
01:39:25
Speaker
you know, confidential sources said or anonymous sources said or a source inside the Pentagon said or we have a high degree of certainty that this is a high degree of certainty means they have no degree of certainty. It's a it means it's a total lie. If they if they say we are positive that this is happening, that's one thing. But they'll say things like high degree of certainty, which is which is code for
01:39:50
Speaker
We're lying. This is all bullshit. We have a high degree of certainty that this is all fake. They'll use certain terms and the better you get at recognizing these terms, the better you get at understanding what's really going on or you can figure out where the lies are. In the United States in 2012,
01:40:12
Speaker
Obama passed this law called the Smith-Munt Modernization Act of 2012. What it did was it changed the Smith-Munt Act, which was written in 1948. That was written in 1948 to prevent propaganda from being used inside the United States
01:40:31
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on Americans by American companies. They just said, we've come out of World War II, the propaganda game was really strong, and we saw where that got a lot of people killed over that. Maybe we shouldn't use propaganda in the United States on ourselves.
01:40:49
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Nice of them, right? That law was in place for a long time until Obama changed it. He changed it so that they can use propaganda against Americans in the United States. Then after that happened, got a lot of school shootings. You got a lot of mass shootings. You got a lot of stuff like that. It legalized lying.
01:41:13
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inside the United States. The media has always been lying to the people, but now it's legal for them to lie to the people. They don't have to label what part of this news story they're going to tell you about is the propaganda part. You just have to figure it out on your own if you even know that it's been legalized.
01:41:35
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So the media and the government work together in order to push out stories through the media the way the government wants them to do it.
01:41:45
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It's legal for them to do it's legal for them to lie about lie on those stories and they do it quite well and do it quite often. And it's not to say that everything that the media says is all a lie, because if it was all a lie, you wouldn't believe any of it. So they give you a certain amount of truth, but it's the it's the lie that they throw in there.
01:42:05
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that matters because it might nullify all of the truth. But they'll give you enough of the story where you'll go, okay, I can believe that. That sounds right. That sounds reasonable. Or I know that part's true. Yeah, that's true. Okay, I get that. I get that. And then they'll tell you the new thing. Oh, and that is that Assad gassed his own people. And you're like,
01:42:27
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Okay, yeah, yeah, he's got to be a monster. It's like, how do we know? Do we know if that's true or not? The guy's an eye surgeon, for God's sake. He didn't gas his own people. That was bullshit. That was a lie. That was the OPCW. It turned out that it was exposed as being a gigantic lie. So that's like an example of where the media and the US government work together. They create a story.
01:42:52
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That is a lie. In order to get people angry about it, problem, reaction, solution, problem.
01:42:59
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Assad is gassing his own people in Syria. Reaction. I can't believe that. That's terrible. What a dictator. We can't allow that. Why don't we change that? Solution. Let's go invade Syria. Okay. The problem is, the problem was never a problem in the first place. It was a total lie. So the reaction was based on a lie and the solution is based on a lie. Whole thing's a lie and yet there we are, but it's too late.
01:43:27
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They're in Syria killing people. They're trying to overthrow this regime, you know what I mean? And so it's like even when you catch them in these lies, it doesn't stop them. They still just continue to go.
Role of Humor in Serious Discussions
01:43:40
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And then you point it out. They lie about it and lie about it. And then when they get busted, they just change the story and never mention it again. So here's the diversion here over here. Look over here. Yeah.
01:43:52
Speaker
Charlie, I love how, although these are very serious topics, they can be a little bit, you know, they can bring us down. I love your little kind of humoristic take in, you know, little gems of humor inside the octopus of global control. Is that the kind of narrative you have going with the new book or did you keep it more serious with Jeff?
01:44:19
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Well, in the octopus, I definitely injected as much humor as I could in there. Like Bill Crystal, who is one of the founders of the Project for New American Centuries, he was involved in the 9-11, the lead up to 9-11, he was involved in 9-11.
01:44:40
Speaker
you know, I have no problem just calling Bill Crystal an asshole in my first book because he is, you know, so I have some fun with that. I like to, I like to, you know, I like to keep it light because the topics are so heavy in the new book. Um, there's still some humor in it. Yeah. I can't, I can't write it and not put that in, you know, because you you've got to, you got to keep people
01:45:05
Speaker
you know, laughing a little bit. I'm not trying to say that this is funny stuff. It's clearly not. It's so serious though, that you have to kind of sometimes laugh at how crazy it's gotten. If you don't laugh at it, you'll be crying about it. So I like to do the thing where I try and make people laugh at it. It's not to, you know, it's not to make light of it. It's just to acknowledge that things have gotten so crazy.
01:45:32
Speaker
that some parts of it are just kind of funny. The way that things have gone, you're right to laugh at it. You laugh at how preposterous this is. John Stewart did that a lot with The Daily Show. He would talk about the news, and he would do it in a comedic way, which would point out the insanity of some story.
01:45:54
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And it would be funny for television. But you would also understand that he was talking about a real thing. And that the real thing might not be funny. That might make you very mad. But at the time, it'll kind of crack you up because he does it in a way that's funny. But he'll make you understand that there is a situation going on. There is a problem. And I always thought that was a better way to deliver the news. In fact, I put a quote in the book about
01:46:20
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Joe Rogan talking about John Stewart, about how he said he always appreciated the way John Stewart did that with The Daily Show. He knew where the humor was. He would read the broadcast and he knew what about it was
01:46:39
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was a real story and where the humor was. He could separate the two. He would be watching Jon Stewart and he would get two versions of the show. He'd get the serious part, which is talking about things like weapons of mass destruction or whatever Jon Stewart was talking about. Then he'd also get the comedic part, which is the punchline joke that makes fun of
01:46:58
Speaker
The weapons of mass destruction you know the search for that or something so he always thought it was a good way to deliver bad news and i thought so too so that's why i try to infuse that in the new book the new book has a little bit of it. Yeah of course it's got a little bit of it i mean we were like i talk about.
01:47:18
Speaker
bank holidays in there. And that's the term for when the bank shuts down your bank and they steal all your money, they call it a bank holiday. But we talk about it in the book how it's like it is technically a bank holiday, but it's like your money went on a holiday and forgot to invite you with it. So it's been disappeared from you. So we can talk about serious things. And of course, banks stealing people's money is not funny. But the idea that they call it a bank holiday because they try to sugarcoat it
01:47:47
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That is kind of funny because it's preposterous. You know what I mean? So so I take that view. I think people connect with a little better if you can find the humor in it. It's not to say that we think these things are funny, but there is there are funny aspects to it. And it's fucking insane. Let's be honest. The whole thing is crazy. So you have to kind of laugh at it to keep from from going from from going nuts. Yeah, it's like.
01:48:17
Speaker
What was the tinfoil hat? I'm blanking on his name that runs the tinfoil hat. Sam Tripoli. He's really good at...
01:48:28
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you know, making you laugh. And what happens is, okay, you laugh, but something goes in there and it's permeated your subconscious and, you know, it changes you. So the next day you watch the news, it's like, yeah, that sounds like bullshit. And it kind of starts honing slowly, your bullshit detector. And this is, I think, this is where everybody needs to start, you know?
01:48:52
Speaker
We all started with incredulity. We were all skeptical at first. I don't think anyone is told a lot of these things, fake terrorist attacks, false flag attacks, pedophiles in government, and so on. Like, oh yeah, that sounds about right. Nobody does that.
01:49:13
Speaker
So I like your spin on it. I like your take on it, Charlie. It's when you say that about Sam, because as we're having this conversation, I'm getting text messages from him. Nice. Yeah, he has a he's got the right attitude. I like Sam's delivery to where he
01:49:33
Speaker
he has fun, you know, there's lizard people everywhere, you know, like you're joking, joking about stuff like that, because it takes it from the serious topic into can we have fun about it? Because if we can have fun talking about this, then it's not it's not
01:49:50
Speaker
It's not regularly that conversations not regulated as much if we're talking about it real seriously people are like okay well then we have to watch what these guys are talking if we're bullshitting about it if we're on tinfoil hat and we're talking about lizard people everywhere and stuff like that it's just got more of a fun.
01:50:07
Speaker
It's sort of looked at as more fun and harmless. But those are great conversations because those conversations get you talking about things in a way that put people's guard down and opens them up a little bit. Yeah, let's talk about lizard people. Let's talk about all that. That's fucking crazy. But you're really also talking about, you know,
01:50:31
Speaker
government secrecy and control stroke. And you're getting into these really hardcore topics, but you're doing it in a fun way that doesn't make it so serious. And it allows you to kind of have these discussions about interesting topics in a way that doesn't
01:50:50
Speaker
doesn't make it feel like it's work or it's fun to do that. So I like Sam's delivery. I like the way he does it. And I do a show with Sam twice a month called Union of the Unwanted, which is like a big group podcast. And we bring on interesting guests.
01:51:07
Speaker
and we try and get into those topics and you can tell. And one of the episodes, Sam wasn't there and it was real, and the episode wasn't as, you know, it was kind of dark and everything. We need that. We need that sense of humor to come in and live, you know, liven things up. Yeah, I was actually emailing Sam about getting on his podcast to talk about something.
Podcasting Challenges and Author Motivation
01:51:27
Speaker
I emailed him twice and both times he's like, yeah, let's do it. And then I emailed back
01:51:33
Speaker
And then months would go by or weeks would go by. He must be busy. I think everybody wants to get on his podcast. He's got two twin babies too. So he's, he's got, he's out of his mind. He's got two like six month old twin baby girls. And so yeah, don't take it personally. I'll keep trying. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Charlie, why don't you tell folks where they can find your work, your books, your websites, your podcast?
01:52:01
Speaker
Yeah. So I've got a podcast called Macro Aggressions, which has been a lot of fun. That's available on Apple, Spotify, iHeartRadio, YouTube, and David Icke's video platform called Iconic. And the book is available. The Octopus of Global Control is the first book that's available in paperback form on Amazon and BarnesandNoble.com. It's available in digital form.
01:52:26
Speaker
through my website, the octopusofglobalcontrol.com, you can get that. The new book with Jeff Berwick is called The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire. We are almost, I mean, everything is edited and done. I'm just waiting on the final cover art and then that will be loaded up and on Amazon. So I think that that'll happen by the end of the month of October.
01:52:48
Speaker
hell, maybe we'll make it available for purchase on the day of the election. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens. We're getting it loaded up there. So that'll be on Amazon and people can connect with me through the website. I have a little contact me button where you can click in there and I get an email and I'm pretty approachable and I interact with everyone and respond to emails or anything. I feel
01:53:17
Speaker
Jeff and I, when we started to write the book, we talked about, he lives in Mexico. I flew to Mexico and we hung out for Narco Poco and talked about it. Then I went back a couple, like a month or so later to Puerto Vallarta and we had dinner and we talked about how we wanted to do this whole thing. The reason that we had for writing the book was that
01:53:39
Speaker
We felt like if we had this information, if we feel like we can see where things are going and it's not good, and we feel like we have enough documentation to put this book together, it's got 254 footnotes in it. I mean, we backed up our evidence, so we're not just speculating here. If we have this information,
01:54:03
Speaker
and we do nothing with it. We don't sound the alarm and let people know that's on us. I don't know that I can, I wouldn't feel good about myself. If I kept that information to myself and didn't make it public. When it came to writing the book, our motivation was
01:54:25
Speaker
We were just trying to sound the alarm and let people know what we see coming. Get out of the way of it. Prepare yourself. You might even be able to profit from it, but at the very least, just try and make things, get yourself out of the way so that you don't get hurt as much. And we felt an obligation to do that, to talk about that and to put that together. And of course, writing my first book, God,
01:54:49
Speaker
I had no idea how hard it was and how much work it was. If I had known when I started, I probably would have never finished. But the second time around with the Control Demolition book, it was hard. There was two of us working on it. But we were very motivated by the fact that we felt like if we do this right and we get this book out in time and everything makes sense to the reader, we're going to put them in a position
01:55:18
Speaker
that they might never be in. They would have never been in if they didn't read the book, which is very much aware of what's coming and some real world actionable information that people can incorporate into their lives so that they move out of the way of this gigantic tsunami that's coming. They get to the proverbial higher ground
01:55:41
Speaker
and then they go from there. They grab their friends and family and people close to them, anyone that will listen to them, because it'll sound crazy when you're talking about how an empire collapses. It's messy. When you talk about it before it happens, you sound unhinged. You sound like you're Nostradamus or like speculating or some doomsday person.
01:56:07
Speaker
But if you do it the right way and you wake up a lot of people, then you prevent them from getting hurt. And that's been our motivation from the beginning. Jeff runs a really successful business. He doesn't need the money for the book, but we felt like we had an obligation. So that's where our
01:56:27
Speaker
our desire comes from for the book is to just wake people up and sound the alarm and maybe get people to see things that they aren't looking for. And if we do that and a lot of people don't have to go through what's coming, then I think we'll feel pretty good about ourselves that we've done the right thing.
01:56:50
Speaker
I'll certainly be buying a few copies to send over to some of my closer friends and family. Of course, I'll be getting one for myself eagerly anticipating it.
01:57:01
Speaker
Yeah, listen, Charlie, you've written a book. I've written a book. We know there is no money and fame and fortune in writing a book. So you write it because you feel the information must be shared with other human beings. And this is what I want to thank you for your work because I know this is grueling work. Like I said earlier, I fell into a little bit of a, don't want to say depression, existential crisis.
01:57:31
Speaker
for a few weeks or maybe even a couple of months. So I know you need a strong psychological base to be working with this, with the muck, with the worst. You're working with the worst of the worst. The scum of the earth is what you're analyzing and their business. So thank you for your work. We'll have all the links to the show notes and as soon as you publish the book, I'll have those links in the show notes.
01:58:00
Speaker
your podcast, your previous book, The Octopus of Global Control, which is a great book. Again, very informative, but very entertaining, very well kind of referenced in terms of the amount of quotes that you have in there. So I highly, highly recommend folks check that out. And yeah, Charlie, thank you so much. We spent more than two hours. We've been talking. I feel like I literally could talk to you all day, literally. I know.
01:58:33
Speaker
I don't know. We're just trying to do our part. Like I said, my whole journey on this came from one conversation with my mom. What are you going to do? You've got this information. What are you going to do about it? And it never crossed my mind that I had to do anything with it. And now I feel like maybe my responsibility is to talk about it on the podcast, to talk about it in the books and things like that because
01:58:51
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I feel the same way.
01:59:01
Speaker
I'm under no illusions that we're going to save the world. We're going to save everybody. But if people get information that helps them make decisions, that moves them out of the way of getting really destroyed by what's coming, I will feel better about that.
Unity Against Societal Divisions
01:59:17
Speaker
I will feel like I contributed something to it. And who knows? Someone may take my work
01:59:22
Speaker
and they write the great book. They were inspired by part of that and then they write this great book and that changes the world. I wrote my book because John Perkins wrote his book and because Graham Hancock wrote Fingerprints of the Gods and because David Icke wrote his books and things like that, those inspired me to write mine. So maybe someone will read my book and feel like, oh shit, if this dummy can write a book, then I can write a book too. So maybe we'll inspire people to
01:59:52
Speaker
you know, to get out there and play a part in it, because we do, we have a part. We do. What that is for each person, it's a little bit different, but we can definitely all talk about this, and that will be a very good start. Where that takes you, who knows, but the talking about it in that first conversation is important, and that's why I do it, and I'm sure that's why you do it too.
02:00:19
Speaker
Yeah, I think what was shown, at least the hippie movement, the counterculture movement in the 70s is no matter what they throw at us to divide us and divide and conquer, we seem to find our way to see that we are all brothers and sisters.
02:00:42
Speaker
And I think this may be, I've been thinking about this recently, maybe the great challenge of our time is learning this and kind of unifying beyond gender, race, social class, all these separations that are arbitrarily created all the time and thrown at us and used against us.
02:01:07
Speaker
I think it's overcoming and in spite of what's being thrown, this is our great challenge and if we can accomplish that or even inspire each other, you inspire me, I inspire someone else and let's get the process going. I think this may be what saves us or at least reduces the shit storm that we're headed for otherwise. Yeah, I agree. I agree.
02:01:35
Speaker
We all have a role to play if we want, if, if we want to have a different version of, of the future. And I think that, I think that we do, I think we all just want to be left alone. If for no other reason we get together, we talk about these things and we break, you know, make it.
02:01:51
Speaker
do podcasts and shows like this because we just want to be left alone. We just don't want people controlling us and telling us what we can and can't do and things like that. That's at least where I come from. I know that's where Jeff comes from for sure because he's a hardcore anarchist and he just wants to be left alone. He doesn't want people telling him what to do. Exactly. That's where we are. We just want to be left alone. I completely agree with that.
02:02:15
Speaker
Charlie, Charlie Robinson, thank you so much for coming on to Connecting Minds, my man. Appreciate it. Thank you, Christian. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Thank you for listening to Connecting Minds.
02:02:40
Speaker
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