Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
Star Wars Bad Batch S2 E7 + E8
762 Plays2 years ago
Star Wars: The Bad Batch treated us to an unexpected double feature this week and we are here to give our reactions to all the political intrigue, returning characters and ramifications.
Recommended
Transcript
Valentine's Day Jewelry Promotions
00:00:00
Speaker
Jaron Solomon here with Solomon Brothers Jewelers to help you find the perfect Valentine's Day gift this year. Solomon Brothers Jewelers has hundreds of classic jewelry gifts in stock and ready to be gift wrapped. Chop our huge selection of brilliant diamond jewelry, vibrant gemstone styles, or classic pearls. No matter the budget, our experienced diamond experts will help you select the perfect gift for the one you love. Browse our Valentine's Day gift guide online or visit us at Solomon Brothers Jewelers in Buckhead or Alpharetta online at SolomonBrothers.com.
Introduction to Animation Deliberation Podcast
00:00:30
Speaker
On another exciting episode of the Animation Deliberation podcast, we have double the episodes, double the Star Wars storytelling, and the same amount of ads. We're gonna get to all of that and much more right after these ads. We have no controller.
00:00:41
Speaker
Valentine's Day is right around the corner and love is in the air. Garen Solomon here to tell you about a very special Valentine's Day offer. Spend $4.99 or more and get anywhere from a pair of Apple AirPods to a MacBook Pro. Get a special gift for the one you love and get a gift for yourself. So celebrate your love story with a gift that's made to last a lifetime. Browse our Valentine's Day gift guide online or visit us at Solomon Brothers in Buckhead or Alpharetta online at SolomonBrothers.com.
00:01:13
Speaker
Sing along if you know the words.
Discussion on Bad Batch Episodes
00:01:16
Speaker
Double your pleasure, double your fun. Sorry, I'm just kidding. Animation, deliberation, a conversation, and a celebration of our favorite action animated series. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:36
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of Animation Deliberation, the podcast where we take action animation and cartoon seriously, but not too seriously. We are your hosts. I am Ziyar Ali. My name is Jay Scotty Sinclair. And I am Andrew Rogers. There is another song that crossed my mind when I was watching the episode. There was one point when there was like, and this is something worth fighting for. And in my head, it's like a clone worth fighting for. One more thrown in the extra songs. I had to get that one out there.
00:02:01
Speaker
Nice. But as we said at the top, we unexpectedly got two episodes of Bad Batch. We're not complaining. Let's get to these synopsis and let's talk about it. We're excited. Indeed. I just kind of say real quickly, I'll be curious to see what the reason that they did these two episodes. I don't know if they're trying to like
00:02:22
Speaker
move up the schedule to make room for all the things that are coming down the pike, like Mandalorian Season 3, Star Wars Celebration, the Jedi Survivor game, or if it's just the fact that these episodes kind of work in tandem as well as they did. I'll be curious to see what the future holds. Yeah, because we didn't hear anything beforehand where it's like things like Last of Us were like, hey, we're pushing this episode so it doesn't conflict with the Super Bowl. So it's like, we didn't quite get anything that specifies why they're doing it. It's just, surprise.
00:02:50
Speaker
Right. Yeah. So pleasant surprise boat. Yeah. Surprised nonetheless. All right. Season two, episode seven, the clone conspiracy. In the Imperial Senate, Rampart pushes for the passing of a bill authorizing the military recruitment of Imperial citizens, meaning that clones will be officially discarded.
00:03:10
Speaker
Senator Ryo Chuchi, or Chichi, as it sounded like it was pronounced to me during the episode, who defends the clones' fundamental rights as approached by clone trooper Slipp, whose friend Cade was murdered on Rampart's orders when he defied the official version of Kamino's destruction by a storm disaster.
00:03:28
Speaker
Chichi begins to investigate Rampart's conspiracy, alerting the admiral, the admiral, not admiral, he's not admiral at all, who sends an assassin after Slip. Just as Chichi tries to convince Slip to testify, the assassin kills him. Before Chichi can suffer the same fate, she is rescued by Rex, whom Slip has summoned for help. The assassin, a clone, kills himself as he is questioned.
00:03:55
Speaker
and then leading into our second episode of this double feature, Truth and Consequences. Rex contacts the Bad Batch and asks them to join him, and Chuchi, who tells them about Rampart's plot. To provide evidence against him, Rex asks the Batch to retrieve Slip's copy of Rampart's command log from his
00:04:14
Speaker
Venator? I thought there was another N in there, like Veninator? No. It's a Doofenshmirtz line at that point. Venator class Star Destroyer, which is undergoing planetside maintenance. While Omega accompanies Chuchi, who tries to get support from more senators, Rex and the rest of the batch sneak aboard the cruiser to retrieve the data, but trigger an alarm and barely escape.
00:04:37
Speaker
The next morning, Chuchi accuses Rampart before the Senate, and with the data in her hands, Rampart is arrested. However, Emperor Palpatine personally orders the Imperial Recruitment Bill to be passed, proving that with his goal all along. Before the batch lead Coruscant, Echo decides to stay with Rex and Chuchi to help fighting for clones' rights. A new Imperial Stormtrooper. Oh man, his delivery on those lines is so good.
00:05:05
Speaker
I want to knock out the the technical stuff real quick. We're suckers for good lighting on this as usual. It was incredible. I was watching with like my my hue lights synced up. So the whole room was like changing colors like that. The scene is just so beautiful. I also don't know how people like just watch these episodes on their laptop because like the sound design is just so incredible, especially when you have surround sound, you can just hear it like so good. It gives me chills. But the new thing on this that I really appreciate
00:05:35
Speaker
It's kind of like one of the big things of Rogue One and that was kind of like how they show scale and seeing the Bad Batch like running across the ship and actually having those like dramatic zoom out of the camera angles and like seeing these tiny people like going across. I was very, very impressed with that.
00:05:52
Speaker
Yeah, every time we get people with a Star Destroyer, I realize I forget how big they are. Because you're just like, oh, yeah, it's kind of like a decent size ship. And you're like, no, you could probably fit thousands of people on one of those things and have room to spare. Yeah.
00:06:09
Speaker
Well, I guess while we're speaking on the more technical aspects of the show, I just kind of want to get it right out of the way. The end of the first episode, that score, Kevin Kleiner's score again, really, really resonated with the end of that first episode. That really stuck out to me.
00:06:28
Speaker
that and i mean the senate music whenever they have to you know draw you in during any of those senate scenes i am fully engrossed in whatever political drama is going on yeah but you know we talked about this we've been itching for too oh yeah you're gonna hear me gosh about that for sure don't you worry but i mean the beginning of episode seven really reminded me of the beginning of attack of the clones
00:06:51
Speaker
Music wise music marks the total vibe wise because it's an assassin going on a meeting that no one's familiar with and it's the intensity that I was like
00:07:01
Speaker
Yeah, I felt that too. Another happy landing. Yeah, but I mean, and you talk about technical things, gotta give Ian McDermand the credit that, you know, only he can be Emperor Palpatine truly and confidently because I wasn't sure who we were going to get because I know during the Clone Wars, they had a couple different actors come in and try and play Palpatine. But to hear that rich
00:07:28
Speaker
earthy voice. I chills just immediate chills down the spine as I was terrified for whatever was about to happen. Yeah, he reprised the voice for his role in rebels. So I wasn't too surprised that they were able to pull him back for this. Yeah, that whole reveal ramparts plan, we're kind of getting into plot now. But yeah, his plan being like foiled right before his very eyes and him being used as a pawn and then having the Emperor just rise before the Senate after
00:07:57
Speaker
he was called up before for not being present for a lot of these proceedings was definitely the highlight for me. You rang. Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I definitely felt the connection to the prequels pretty strongly as well. I think the prequels really tried to showcase the political side of things a little bit more, sometimes more successfully than
Technical Appreciation of Bad Batch
00:08:23
Speaker
other times. But yeah, I felt like this was kind of like
00:08:29
Speaker
retroactively addressing a lot of what we got with the prequels with the clone army and that whole situation. It's like, how do we really make this transition from the prequels to what we saw in the original trilogy? And in that sense, I thought it
00:08:41
Speaker
It was great storytelling and great world building there. That first episode did feel a little bit like almost like a pilot to me. It didn't really feel like an episode of Bad Batch at first because we weren't spending any time with any recognizable characters other than ones we had seen in the background in the prequels or Rampart obviously having showed up in the show beforehand, but it almost kind of felt like I've been watching Game of Thrones. So it was kind of like fresh in my mind, but just the political intrigue and the manipulation there like felt very present for me.
00:09:12
Speaker
It's funny that you think that this is a or you said that this felt like a pilot episode because we've been talking about how the other episodes have felt like filler episodes. Like there was one episode that all of us agreed was good. And then last week's episode where you were on the lower side, I was
00:09:29
Speaker
up and about about it. And Andrew was like right in the middle. So it's kind of like, if this is everything that we love about the bad batch, that kind of was the pilot to kind of kick off the stuff that we've been asking for. True. Yeah, because I was really worried after that first episode.
00:09:45
Speaker
because this is one of my favorite episodes of the, or that was one of my favorite episodes of the season. I'm like, wow, the episode that didn't have the bad batch was the best episode of the bad batch. I was happy to see them bring it full circle. And I loved the second episode just as much as the first. And it wasn't just that the bad batch was missing. It was that they just needed to tell a different story to get me on board bad batch or otherwise. So
00:10:10
Speaker
I like that they managed to bring it all together because I was very, very worried that it was like, wow, pilot to a story that we're only going to slightly care about. No, they actually made it, you know, all come together really well. And yeah, I mean, this is very close to what a lot of Star Wars, the Clone Wars was, Jay Scottie. There's several episodes.
00:10:29
Speaker
Where it's like Padme is doing Senate things and tracking down people on the side streets of Corinsant and then Bail Organa shows up and teaches her different things. So like you just subbed out Padme for Rio here and it just it worked the exact same way.
00:10:45
Speaker
But I loved getting into that deep nitty gritty of like, well, there's bribes going on. You got to track the trail of money and figure out how you're actually going to do these political steps. And then it may have also felt a lot like Clone Wars to me because we actually have seen the senator once before way back, I think in like first or second season of the Clone
Character Spotlight: Echo and Omega
00:11:04
Speaker
Wars. She was like a one off character. But as soon as she popped back on screen, I was like, wait, I know you. Yeah. Yeah. On the flip end of that. So it's like we've seen the
00:11:14
Speaker
the the Camino senator as well because she was like really tight with the banking clan trying to get them to like spend it was always like there's always like so what do we want to do about the next batch of clones and she'd always be the one like always you know pushing the agenda right because obviously he wants the the republic to spend money on them but
00:11:31
Speaker
We got like a little recap of Echo talking to Omega and Echo was a big, big part of Clone Wars. Like the Bad Batch were only in four episodes in the last season, but Echo was part of Rex's crew. So.
00:11:49
Speaker
that that the weight of that and especially towards the end of the episode when he said bind he was like i have to stay with rex and she's like we're a squad and i was like technically they've been a squad a lot longer like um scoots do you know the background of echo like why he's kind of the way he is i watched the episodes of the clone wars where they went on the rescue mission to to retrieve him so i know he was basically being used as like a human
00:12:15
Speaker
like conduit to like enact some, um, strategic manipulation of the clones. Yeah. So yeah, which is why they needed the bad batch because they work off the book. And I liked that Rex mentioned that too. It was like, Oh, I'm just going off your plane. Just going to improvise. Yeah. So there was so much, like all the good stuff about clone wars really bled into these two episodes. And I can't express enough how much I appreciated that. Hmm. Yeah. And I appreciated the,
00:12:42
Speaker
especially in that first episode, talking about the political intrigue. We were treated to a nice little action set piece in the beginning when Slit made his escape, and it was very reminiscent of episode two. But then after that, it was a slow build with a real sense of... It was an ominous sense, and then we got that great sniper shootout sequence. I have to admit, somewhere in the back of my mind, I was like, crosshair?
00:13:07
Speaker
crosshair you showing up he wasn't quite as accurate as crosshair so i was kind of glad that it wasn't him in that sense because the continuity there but then when he when he used like the electric cyanide pill it was great to see that again because i i think the first time i saw that was in the mandalorian so to see that pop up again was like really cool i don't i don't remember ever seeing electric cyanide but
00:13:30
Speaker
That is interesting that they did that because I was sitting there, I was like, all right, when you're going to break your tooth, when's the phone going to start coming? I was like, oh, upgrade. I don't know if that's less intrusive or not. I mean, you know, quicker death. But there was a couple of times where it's like when Senator Chu Chi met up with
00:13:49
Speaker
Organa, I was like, man, it'd be cool if Ahsoka is going to come around the corner. I don't think it's going to be here, though. And then towards the end, I was like, Rex is going to pop up. OK, yes, it's Rex. And then when they took the helmet off, I was like, this isn't Boba Fett, is it? Is it like the early days of Boba Fett being an assassin, like budget bounty hunter? Because the age mix up makes sense because he doesn't have the speedy scaling. But then when they killed him off, I was like,
00:14:17
Speaker
Yeah, honestly, that's a great question. And one of many characters I would love to see come back is a, you know, fledgling Boba Fett here, finally starting to get his things because I know there's a deleted scene from the last season of Clone Wars, wherein he like gets his armor back. So it's not canon. But
00:14:40
Speaker
maybe they find a way to weave it into this show of like, okay, he's gonna, you know, go become a bounty hunter so we can bridge more of that gap between the seasons. We still need like Boba Fett and Omega dialogue too, because their creation is so similar.
00:14:55
Speaker
Well, you talk about Omega, and I feel like this is a great point to bring up. They did, I really appreciated it, as sad as it is, but the fact that they brought up the Kaminoans, and that they were lost in all of this, it wasn't just clones, it was a whole, potentially almost entire race of people that were gone, and it's just, it hurts a whole lot more, but it reminded me that one of the scientists, I believe, escaped.
00:15:21
Speaker
And he is, you know, out there. I think it was Nala say, if I remember correctly, she escaped or was she like recruited? She was a bit of both. Yeah, I think it was like in a recruitment because you had like the main I can't remember his name, but the guy that was in charge of Topeka City. And basically there was the rampart had the dialogue of like, I need her. I don't need you. And we saw the doors close and it was like they didn't explicitly say what happened, but it was pretty
00:15:52
Speaker
He did. Obviously broadcast. Yeah, yeah, he did. Yeah. So there is still that thread out there that again, I brought it up last week. Oh, yeah, Omega is a clone. What does that actually mean for the entire cloning process and what DNA they have left?
00:16:09
Speaker
and you have the scientist out there, there's still so many unanswered questions that this episode just kind of reminded me, hey, there is a story to tell in this grand scope of the rebellion going on and the clone downfall. And I love that we're finally getting them called Stormtroopers, but I kind of like that it, I don't know if it felt like a joke to you guys, but it kind of felt like a joke to me that Palpatine was like, and we will have the Imperial Stormtrooper. And it's just this weird silence of everyone just kind of being like,
00:16:39
Speaker
Well, it's a stormtrooper. Like, no one said anything. No one applauded. No one clapped. I was just like, are they all confused? Because I'd be confused. I definitely didn't have that moment because they were just talking about like the whole recruitment bill and whatnot. So I think it was just more of like branding reveal. Okay. It's like, ah, intrigue, intrigue. We have a name for it now. Because obviously everyone's still processing like what just went down and then that on top of it. Yeah.
00:17:08
Speaker
Yeah. And I'm glad you got a chuckle out of it. A little bit. I wanted to circle back to Omega a little bit because I did find myself like I was kind of waiting for someone to recognize that she was a clone or have more of like an extreme reaction when she revealed that she was a clone, particularly that Kaminoan, I can't recall her name, but she just kind of... Just called the senator.
00:17:31
Speaker
Yeah, it was like a look of like, surprise a little bit when she revealed like, oh, that's unexpected. But I also thought it was a little, I don't know, haphazard of Omega just to be going around revealing that she was a clone, especially when they're doing some covert operation. But I mean, I ultimately understand for the story, she was appealing
00:17:53
Speaker
to the clones as people and they deserve rights and they deserve to have representation in the Senate. So it made sense in that regard, but I thought it was going to be a thread that potentially put her in harm's way or something to that effect.
00:18:11
Speaker
Well, I had the question, did her and Rampart never come face to face in the first season? Because he walked up to her in the hallway. I'm like, oh, no, Rampart's going to know who she is and then just didn't look at her. So I have to assume he never actually saw her. But I don't know how that happened because the whole plot point was like, oh, the girl's gone or Omega's gone rather. Yeah. That's a good point. I remember having a similar thought that, oh, he's definitely going to recognize her, but I didn't.
00:18:41
Speaker
I didn't really follow it up afterwards, but yeah, that's a great, great point. I think it's kind of like the Clark Kent effect of like, why would you expect to see them like in plain sight in the Senate type of thing? Sure. Like she's just casually walking around with the Senator. It's like, oh, her niece is in town.
00:19:00
Speaker
Nice of a different species Adopted I Don't question galaxy far away for fair enough I Hate to say that I we got this maybe once or twice last season But I do like the episodes where Omega's not part of the combat because the bad batch just have this like
Team Dynamics and Future Speculations
00:19:30
Speaker
chemistry that far exceeds potentially her birth. So just seeing that kind of like the seamless interaction is always super fun.
00:19:41
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like they were much more in their element this episode going on that covert mission. Nothing really went wrong. Anything that was a little bit of an issue, they said, okay, we'll improvise as opposed to, oh no, someone screwed something up. It was a little closer to the Bad Batch we saw during Clone Wars, whereas I feel like they've almost been the butt of their own jokes during the TV show. As unfortunate as that is, I feel like they've gone a little bit more of the comedy route with the name show.
00:20:10
Speaker
Hmm. Yeah. What did, what did tech say? He was like 0.6 meters off. Not as fast. And then Rex was like, Oh, he's still not scared of heights. It's like, this is him doing better. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Love that. He's just, it was just as simple as like, you just called the next person. What are we doing this? No questions asked. All right. We're going to go do it. Which was it last episode?
00:20:38
Speaker
Yeah, it was last episode where that's kind of what I was inferring with, um, when Omega made the call to save, uh, Gungy, you brought up, it's like, they just kind of went with it. I was like, yeah, that's part of like her growth and being part of their chemistry. But it's also, we don't question that as much with them because
00:21:06
Speaker
they just move on what they need to do. Whereas like, I feel like when she does something, it's just like it's way out of left field, you know?
00:21:18
Speaker
I think it's more often her actions put her out of her depth. I think that's a little closer to what it is, is like tech is doing something because he knows it's a last resort. It feels like Omega is doing it just because she wants to. And I think that's, it's very close to what you've said is, oh, she's growing, but she's still not quite there to realizing what risks need to be taken versus what risks she can take.
00:21:43
Speaker
And she's doing the it's easier to ask for forgiveness and permission.
00:21:52
Speaker
I think that's a good point because I think that's part of the reason the bad batch is so protective of her and despite the liability she might present, they want her to be a part of their quote unquote family because she is getting to have the childhood that they never really got to have and there's something beautiful about that.
00:22:14
Speaker
And their life has also always been follow orders. And she's kind of like the part of them that gets to think outside the box. And she kind of provides that moral and ethical compass that they've never really had to worry about having. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, especially being under the Republic for so long, they are our compass, they point you essentially as a weapon. And we're seeing all the clothes struggle with this now, which I'm loving this dialogue about this whole issue.
00:22:44
Speaker
And for those who have seen Rebels, we see what happens to the older clones and whatnot, but it's interesting seeing this point in time. Well, I was just going to say, you talk about some of the clones pushing back. At the same time, we have this assassin clone and his dying line being something along the lines of, I'm still a believer or something along those lines. That was so interesting.
00:23:09
Speaker
Is he under the influence of an inhibitor chip? Or is he, you know, actually just like crosshair and believes in what the system is giving? You know, there's so many layers to unpack there when it comes to what that clone is going to mean to the story.
00:23:26
Speaker
It seems the further removed we get from the inhibitor chips and Order 66, like the less impact that it has, we're really seeing these clones have more agency and make their own decisions and as a result be held accountable for those decisions. So I would defer to, yeah, he was
00:23:45
Speaker
more along the lines of a crosshair, like he actually believed in the cause and was willing to die for the cause. So something that kind of came up though with the mention of rebels and kind of knowing how this plays out by knowing the future. As much as I appreciate the story and love seeing it kind of fleshed out, I kind of had that thought too. It's like in the Obi-Wan series, we had spoilers for Obi-Wan, minor spoilers, but on the one planet you saw,
00:24:09
Speaker
Tamara Morrison reprises role as like that old clone on the side of the street begging for, you know, change. So it's like, as inspiring and hopeful we can be about this whole situation, we ultimately know that it's not going to go their way. So it's kind of tragic in that regard.
00:24:26
Speaker
But then you have the flip where we have old Rex and wolf and they're just retired on one of their old republic walkers just on this random desolate planet just living their best life just walking and fishing and Just literally just old and fat with big beard and just yeah, whatever Yeah, it's it's the interesting dilemma of
00:24:50
Speaker
prequels. They're telling a very interesting story, but we know the direction that it's going to go because I got very emotional with the, you know, echo leaving the group and saying his goodbye to Omega and her being distraught about it. Like I was, I was tearing up. I'm not even gonna lie about that. But then I thought back and I'm like,
00:25:11
Speaker
I don't believe we will... spoilers for Rebels here. It's kind of hard to talk without talking about the future, but we don't ever see the Bad Batch or Echo appear in any future property. So what happens between now and then is a very interesting story to tell. They weren't written until afterwards. Well, that's exactly it. They weren't written until after.
00:25:35
Speaker
I don't want to immediately think, okay, they're going to die or whatever the case may be. I want to see where this interesting story goes and where they end up leaving them. Are they going to have a happily ever after with Omega on a planet or what's going to happen? Because we're getting into that weird, like, Ahsoka's back because she was written after the facts. That's why we didn't see her during the actual rebellion. Right. So they have a lot of different ways that they can go with this, but I don't I don't know what it is. A big galaxy.
00:26:04
Speaker
Yeah, it's a galaxy far, far away and very big. Yes, indeed. That is the fun thing about this is knowing where the story ends, but seeing how we got there. Because there's a lot of in between. A lot.
00:26:22
Speaker
Yeah, what's that old adage? It's not the destination, but the journey. The dope journey. There's a reason that Star Wars is referred to as a space opera because it's pretty much a soap opera in space. You're just waiting for the character you thought was dead to come back out of nowhere.
00:26:40
Speaker
Just like always, you know, I just call it an anime that started with live action Interesting interesting There's a there's a lot of layers there yeah, I I guess um one of my final thoughts on this whole two episode Mark situation and I kind of alluded to it at the beginning but I really felt like the beginning of the season was setting up rampart to be our big bad and you know, maybe there's
00:27:10
Speaker
Maybe there's an opportunity for him to continue to show up and squirm his way out of this situation. Or maybe we'll see him like absolutely desperate kind of at his wits end or whatnot. But it was surprising to me to have him like kind of taken off the board as the season's big bad. And I wonder who's going to replace him if we're going to see that much more Palpatine or who's going to kind of fill in that gap. What are your thoughts on that? I think there's another admiral that could be stepping into the picture soon. OK, I think I know where you're going with that.
00:27:40
Speaker
Admiral Thrawn. I have a feeling. Ah, yes.
00:27:44
Speaker
That would be interesting. God, I just meant to say he is one of my favorite villains ever. I mean, there is a chance that Crosshair steps up. You know, they could possibly be promoting him into some sort of role. And it feels too similar to other things that we've seen. But like, he could make a hero turn and start helping the rebellion or something along those lines. I doubt it. But I agree that opportunity at the end of last season. Yeah, it felt very, very
00:28:12
Speaker
open-ended on purpose. It was almost like, I know he's coming back, but I don't know how is, but maybe that's just me being so used to those kinds of tropes. Yeah, I really do like Rampart, so I was kind of bummed that they, you know, kind of took him out of the picture so quick.
00:28:28
Speaker
Um, but... Did anybody else, like, find themselves, like, really get frustrated for the clones during that bar scene? When they were like, what do you mean pension? Like, I'd rather be fighting out there and this and that. Because, like, logistically, I'm like, sure, just let them fight until they can, then let them train the recruits, and then let them be, like, leadership for the recruits, and then just let them die off. And this is kind of like, the plan is simple! Why are you ruining their lives? They were made for this.
00:28:57
Speaker
I felt sympathy for them, but kind of in a different direction. The fact that they didn't seem to have any value for themselves outside of fighting. It's like they've known no other life and they can't even see a future that doesn't involve that. That's where my sympathy kind of came in. It was like, yeah, they've just been... We were trained for this scenario. What a line. Yeah. What a line. Yeah.
00:29:23
Speaker
Yeah. And honestly, it's also the terrifying, like, okay, we saw a clone in Obi-Wan. We didn't see a lot of clones in Obi-Wan, and we know how many there are still at this point at the end of the war, so... I don't... The Revenge of the Sister Obi-Wan was eight years? Give or take.
00:29:47
Speaker
Sure. It's harder. It was like eight for that and then another seven or eight to get to new hope from Obi-Wan.
00:29:56
Speaker
How old was Luke? He was a little bit older than that. Yeah. I think he was 16, 18, something like that. Yeah. Okay. So maybe it was like 10 and eight years. So yeah, I mean, like with their, I mean, we saw what happened to Rex, but with the accelerated growth and stuff, like who knows what kind of shape they're in. I mean, like we're fresh off revenge of the sit at this point, but you know, in regards to like, that's what I'd like about it's the journey is that we're seeing these different timelines and we're seeing like the gaps between events getting like narrower and narrower.
00:30:28
Speaker
Yeah, it's also very hard to use any judgment of actor age because I know that's kind of where you were going. It's like, oh, wow, Tamara Morrison looked like he was a pretty old beat up clone. And it's like, well, he's aged because he was a different age than he was. It's in the same way of going from
00:30:44
Speaker
Ewan McGregor to Alec Guinness. It's like, wow, he looks a lot older for like 18 years in the desert. That was a rough five years for you, wasn't it? There are two sons on Tatooine, okay? Take a toll. Sunscreen can only go so far. Yeah, what do you need, like SPF?
00:31:03
Speaker
Whatever number you want to come up with. You just need Star Wars metrics. You can't even use human numbers for it. True. There's too many zeros. It's not SPF. It's SWPF for Star Wars PF. Oh, okay. There we go. Obi Wan didn't learn Monoskin. Ah. Spill my block over high. Okay, okay. Anime things bleeding into our Star Wars podcast. Well, we do have Visions season two.
00:31:33
Speaker
and all the anime that we cover. Yeah, and I'm seeing some rumors that there's a possibility we get that on May the 4th, so you never know.
00:31:44
Speaker
I would be very excited about that. Definitely. As if we don't have enough to talk about. What do you mean? Our schedule's totally fine. I didn't cancel a whole other show to make sure I had enough time for this one. Obviously, it's my prime one, so yeah, it always comes first. Well, on that note, yeah, I think we're all kind of here at the end.
00:32:07
Speaker
Seems like a good time as any. We're talking about other
Hosts' Other Viewing Experiences
00:32:10
Speaker
anime. We have a whole other show to record tonight. If any of you are a fan of My Hero Academia, please keep up with that other coverage. And if not, you know, check out the show, check out us and our thoughts to even see if you might be interested in the other episodes that we are doing. Yeah, I won't be appearing on that episode. And those episodes tend to be the ones where we divulge into some of the other things we're watching a little bit more. So I will take a moment just to say I am
00:32:38
Speaker
current with Vox Machina season two and still very much enjoying it, especially some of the guest voice actors that they have. Like as a big Lord of the Rings fan, it was awesome having Billy Boyd, the fool of a took himself, pop up, so. I'm gonna say a quick thing about Vox Machina that you guys might not like me for. So I'm still watching season one. Okay. I've loved every episode that I've seen.
00:33:08
Speaker
everything's great about it, but I don't have the dire urge to press next. If that makes sense. Like with Black Clover, it was like, I'm not going to sleep ever. And with this one, it's been like, man, I really liked that episode. I think I'm going to take a break now and go do something. And then like for the rest of the day, I probably won't watch another episode. I'll watch it the next day. It's like, Oh, you know, I'll switch things up and put on an episode of Vox Machina. That's not like that dire need to press, if that makes sense.
00:33:37
Speaker
Yeah, totally makes sense. I have not had that experience with the show. It's like having these episodes released in three episode batches. I watch all three in one sitting typically is how I've been doing, which is a little unusual for me. Like normally I am like, I'll watch one or two episodes of something and then like take a break to do something else. But I'm just enjoying that much. But a different strokes for different folks. You still like it. It just, you know, you got to ingest it at a different pace. That's okay.
00:34:04
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like that bar is also very high for me personally these days to have something that I can just continue to hit play on because like busy lifestyle this month, whereas you've been recovering so like totally different points in time, but I mean, I'm not gonna give you that I need to press next or
00:34:22
Speaker
I'm in the middle, like when I'm watching the three episodes, I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna plow through all three. Okay, but I'm not like, Oh, it's Friday, I have to tune in. I'll wait until like Monday, Tuesday, like it's whenever I get the free time. I'm not. It's not like my hero where I wake up and I'm like, Okay, when can I watch this episode? Yeah, so it's, it's a mix. I was thinking about that with Vox Machina, too. And I think like,
00:34:45
Speaker
I think Black Clover just kind of became my comfort show because I started it like the day that I got home from surgery. So it's kind of like living through their lives and being able to binge four seasons where it's like I know Vox Machina is only a season and starting the second so it's like
00:35:06
Speaker
I'm trying not to burn through it but it's like I got so invested in somebody else's animated life which is kind of what anime has just been doing for me all my life but I just got so invested with like their stories and stuff because like I had to hit pause on having a life because of surgery recovery so I don't know if that has something to do with it but in my free time that's just been something I've been thinking about a lot
00:35:30
Speaker
Totally fair. Well, that is just a little bit of a taste of what you might hear on the My Hero Academia episodes. But yes, thank you all for listening.
Closing Remarks and Calls to Action
00:35:40
Speaker
I will encourage you like the show, share the show, rate and review the show. A five-star review would be so very much appreciated. If you like what we're doing here, you got to let us know. You got to give us some love.
00:36:11
Speaker
If you get a review, I will sing it next week. There you go. There is the way that you get your words coming, sing song out of my mouth because I will sing the next review. We'll make the whole remix just for you.
00:36:25
Speaker
Yeah, I like it. And whatever your review is, throw in a Black Eyed Peas, like pun in the title somehow so we know that you heard this. Anyway, social medias, where can they find us, Mr. Rogers?
00:36:43
Speaker
Well, you can find me at any beautiful day in the neighborhood. Um, could not with a set up like that, but all of us on all of our social medias, you can find us on Facebook and Instagram animation deliberation.
00:36:55
Speaker
And Twitter at animationdelib1, a great place to catch up and keep track of all of our information, as well as share all of the content that we're doing and catch up with any memes that I happen to find funny that day of the week. So it's a great time. Or that I happen to send you throughout the week. Or, yeah, any of the hosts will send me memes and I just put them on the story. It's a great way to catch up. That's all that it is, as well as you can find us on StrandedPanda.com and the StrandedPanda Facebook chat.
00:37:23
Speaker
Yep. Send us some feedback, uh, anything to plug as far as appearances on other shows. Nope. Nothing. All right. Well, thank you all for tuning in. That's T double O N I N may the force be with you and stay. And zoo hair stole my bit. So until I come up with a better one, muscle, muscle.
00:37:46
Speaker
Thank you for listening to the Animation Deliberation Podcast, a proud member of the Strandepanda Network. If you would like to contact us, you can email animationdeliberationpodcast at gmail.com or follow us on Twitter at animationdelib1. For this and other great shows, you can visit Strandepanda.com or join the great community that is the Strandepanda Chat Facebook group at facebook.com slash groups slash spchat. Tune in next time and remember, stay well.
00:38:16
Speaker
Valentine's Day is right around the corner and love is in the air. Garen Solomon here to tell you about a very special Valentine's Day offer. Spend $4.99 or more and get anywhere from a pair of Apple AirPods to a MacBook Pro. Get a special gift for the one you love and get a gift for yourself. So celebrate your love story with a gift that's made to last a lifetime. Browse our Valentine's Day gift guide online or visit us at Solomon Brothers in Buckhead or Alpharetta online at SolomonBrothers.com.
00:38:46
Speaker
you
00:38:46
Speaker
Introducing the Dunkin' Run. A dollar donut with any medium coffee. A whole new era of... I'm going on a Dunkin' Run. You want anything? Yeah, maybe a jelly donut and an iced coffee. You got it. Wait, actually glazed donut and a hot coffee. Mmm. Okay. Back on track. Make it a Dunkin' Run. Get a $1 donut with any medium coffee. America runs on Dunkin'. Exclude specialty donuts and fancies. Offer valid on medium or larger coffees. Price and participation may vary. Limited time offer. Terms apply.