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Power Two Podcast: Pick A CFB Playoff Format Already + NBA Finals Preview
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On this week's episode, DJ and Jordan dive into some WNBA Drama, Zion Williamson's allegations and the latest CFB Playoff structure. We really need them to just pick one already! Plus, DJ breaks down the NBA Finals and who could potentially win it all.
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Transcript
Introduction and Branding Excitement
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Jordan
one
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Are you ready? I'm not taking this out.
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Jordan
No. What's everybody? Welcome to another episode of Get Defensive Sports Network's Power 2 podcast, where we are here to talk about the power of having your own branding, because i get excited every time we say Get Defensive Sports Network.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Period.
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Jordan
And if you have not noticed, maybe you did, maybe you have not, we have a logo now.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Oh my gosh, we're so cool. We are so cool.
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Jordan
We look yeah out here.
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We are so cool. We are so legit. I'm obsessed.
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Jordan
We are.
NIL Seminar and Networking Importance
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I'm so excited.
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Jordan
and they And the logo is super professional, as people keep telling us, which, of course, we just thought We thought we was going to play around.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Like what? Hello. You think we we we don't do shit halfway around here.
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Jordan
You thought we wasn't going to serious when we got banished to go do the thing we were always going to do, which was go out on our own eventually.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
On the road. I know. Bail is crazy. And you know, it's funny. you can saying it, if it's sports network. So i have, I want to tell you this on air. I have my very first speaking engagement outside of like working for my job. Like this is just me as the talent.
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I am hosting an educational seminar about and n NIL, funding, branding, how to get yourself out there as a student athlete. It is directed towards Black athletes and HBCU athletes specifically, but I am the emcee as well as I will be on the career panel.
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And I am so excited to introduce myself as one of the owners of Good Defense and Sports Network. like I cannot wait to tell them that I am one half of the Power 2 podcast on the Get Defensive Sports Network, a network that is being produced by yours truly.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
it's It is to be a moment. I am thrilled about it.
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Jordan
I love that. I love that for you and I love that for us.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
I know. It's so great for the brand.
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Jordan
um, that, yeah,
WNBA Drama: Rekia Jackson and the Sparks
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Jordan
that it is I mean, the brand is good. there's There's a lot like the personal brand. There has been a lot of things that's happened in the last, in the last week or so that that has been so good for the personal brand brand, but this is good for the business brand and your personal brand.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
My personal brand?
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Get Defensive Sports Network
My personal brand is brand new.
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Jordan
Love that. Um, and, and when we get off the call, we'll have to talk a little bit more because we want to go into all the details. But now that you told me, I do have questions about, you know, how it this came about, but don't need anybody in your business.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Oh, yes.
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Jordan
Um,
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Yes, yes. It was from networking.
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Jordan
So,
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Well, can tell you that. It was from networking, the the networking event that I went to where I met the executive director of C&E.
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Jordan
yes.
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I met that person.
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Jordan
as
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and
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Jordan
And won't networking do it for you?
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Network is going to do it every single day. If y'all don't learn anything from us kids, network. Keep people in your back pocket, your front pocket.
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Jordan
Yeah. And my biggest piece of advice for networking, everyone says it's not what you know, it's who you know. That is also a lie.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
So not true.
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Jordan
It's not who you know, it's who knows you. That's the key.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
You're preaching. You're preaching.
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Jordan
That's the key.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Power to podcast when we talk about the power of networking. Okay.
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Jordan
Hey, listen, get to it. All right. So yeah, we're going to get into the show a little bit and we're going to start out with some beef.
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Speaking of networking.
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Jordan
We're going to start out with some issues. We're going to start with some problems. I don't know what's going on. So we are not going to go too in depth on this because we just saw this today.
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i
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Jordan
But it seems like America's queen, Rekia Jackson, is not happy with the Phoenix Suns. And no, Los Angeles.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
with the who let me introduce the topic because what are you saying she's not in phoenix and it's the mercury if we're talking about the wmba she's in you said the phoenix suns which is also the and nba team that is kevin durant that is devin booker that is
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Jordan
Oh, my God. Oof.
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Jordan
That is not Phoenix. She is not in Phoenix. She is in Los Angeles. She is. She is. What did I say? Which is also the NBA team.
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Jordan
I don't know what I'm, yeah, that's crazy. That is so, that is, that is so crazy. I don't know what I was doing. I said that with full confidence too.
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You, was like, I was ready for you to bring the topic
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Jordan
Oh my God. but like I said i it, just rolled it just rolled off the tongue too. Just loud and wrong.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
I was like, the who?
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Jordan
Just loud and wrong. She is unhappy with the Los Angeles Sparks.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
With the Los Angeles Sparks.
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Jordan
Not the Phoenix Suns, although although i ah she might be unhappy with them too because...
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I think a lot of Phoenix Suns fans aren't happy, actually. I'm so sorry for y'all.
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Jordan
but that But yeah, that is...
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Y'all got Devin Booker. What's that other man's name? Not KD.
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Jordan
Kevin Durant.
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What is that other man's name?
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Jordan
ah oh
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The one who they can't get out of a contract with. Like, he has, like, a no-trade clause. what is Bradley Beal.
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Jordan
Yes, which I can't believe they traded for him, but...
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That man.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
This is not an NBA podcast. um So, well, it is today, actually.
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Jordan
Nope. I mean, we are going to talk about the NBA a little bit later.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Okay, back it up.
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Jordan
But anyways...
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So, Rakeena Jackson is upset with the Los Angeles Parks.
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Jordan
And we know this because her friend took to Twitter, which personally, never a good idea.
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Crazy, crazy work.
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Jordan
Never a good idea.
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I'm also not even entirely sure if that's actually her friend.
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Jordan
But,
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Jordan
i mean, don't know.
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It's just somebody who is speaking from a place like as if she knows Rekia, but yes, a lot of people took, were very alarmed because Rekia Jackson has taken a step away from the Los Angeles Sparks for personal reasons. She will not be playing.
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And she unfollowed them on Instagram and took them out of her Instagram bio, which caused a lot of alarm for fans. The last game that she played, which was against the Atlanta atlanta du Dream a couple days ago, she was...
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unconsolably crying afterwards. And so a lot of people have been very concerned about her, her particular relationship with the coach, new coach and things of that nature. And now she's taking personal time away from the game, which sparked pregnancy rumors.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Because apparently everybody wants everybody to be pregnant. So that's why pregnancy rumors.
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Jordan
Yeah, but if this yeah if this but if this person is actually her friend, the person confirmed that she is not pregnant.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Yes, well, Rekia herself also confirmed that she was not pregnant. She posted a very funny picture of herself.
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Jordan
She posted one, she did one video with her man getting drafted and everybody said she was pregnant. Please.
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I was like, Excuse me? Like, can we all calm him down? But no, people, we've been doing this with because Caitlin Clark right now has a hamstring or a quad injury, some type of muscular injury, and she'll be out for two weeks at least.
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And people were, her fans actually, were saying that they wanted her. They were like, oh, she's doing this so she can sit on the game. I actually hope she's pregnant so that way she can teach the WNBA how much they need her.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
I was like, why are you wishing pregnancy on a 22-year-old?
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Jordan
That is so weird.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Like, what?
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Jordan
Yeah, like no matter how much money they're making, that's crazy.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
That is wild. Anyway.
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Jordan
Yeah, so to read some of the tweets of this person who may or may not be the friend, this person says, Rekia is too talented and too resilient to stay down, but seeing her cry after the game and hearing and Ryan say it's going to say that is getting me upset all over.
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Jordan
Number two is going to be okay.
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Yes.
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Jordan
um It's clear, so...
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Ryan Howard, she felt really bad for what Rekia was going through, but she did not speak any more directly about it. She just said she felt bad for her.
00:06:51
Jordan
Yes. So then someone says, Rekia Jackson personal ruled out on Friday. And is the the response to this is, it's clear as day. If the coach, Magic Johnson, stepped the fuck in.
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Jordan
If a coach cannot figure out how to use Rekia Jackson, she's not a coach who belongs in the league. Plum is out here doing whatever. And Hamby just in the past doing whatever. Get her the fuck off the bench.
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Jordan
Her friend then responds to that same tweet and says, i want to air this bitch out.
Serious Allegations Against Zion Williamson
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Jordan
Someone else says, and if I'm wrong, so be it, but I know I ain't. Rekia asking for a fucking trade. If the Sparks want to be bums, let them be bums.
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Jordan
Same goes for Cam, Ray, and whoever else. Let Plum and Hamby be selfish. Let's pad their own stats. Y'all could be great. This one is just someone talking. Her friend did retweet this, but like let's be honest.
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Jordan
They're on that rookie contract, and the WNBA is not fully at the place of certain— like You can't just ask for a trade at this point. Like you have to have like one year or less.
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No.
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Jordan
So I don't believe the trade thing, but just more of the kind of continuation of people being unhappy.
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Yeah.
00:07:51
Jordan
And then someone else said, the fan base literally told you she was not going to like Rekia. Speaking of the coach, Rekia is not a stand in the corner player at Magic Johnson, who I believe is a part owner. You know, well, he's a part owner of a lot of teams.
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Yeah.
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Jordan
You know that.
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He's part owner for both the Lakers and the Sparks, yeah.
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Jordan
yeah Yeah, you know that an all-rookie team player is sitting because the coach is being an asshole. You told us the Sparks wanted to win. This ain't it. The friend then goes to say, it's almost like l LA has a big wing who could get her own shit against this pressure.
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Jordan
Barker and Hanvey piss me off so bad. Barker has the longest sleeves for a player who gives us nothing. Yes, Barker and Ponytail, who i'm a get I'm guessing they're talking about...
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the arca
00:08:31
Jordan
Yeah, Parker and Ponyto continue to give us nothing on the defensive end. So there has just been this sort of thing, yeah i mean, ah basically where Rekia is out for personal reasons.
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Jordan
She is still coming off the bench, which is one of those things that we sort of talked about where like we we did think that she was going to be a bigger player because like last year she was coming off the bench and then everyone got injured and she was hooping.
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Jordan
And then she went to Unrivaled and she was hooping and i was like, okay, maybe they found a star that they didn't realize how good she was. But then, you know, they make their moves, they get Kelsey Plum, they get, it you know, a couple other people and now she's still on the bench.
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which is crazy. yeah.
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Jordan
The Sparks aren't doing as well and maybe potentially Rekia is not happy, but this person who is or is not her friend is definitely not happy and a lot of the fans are not happy. And so there is WNBA drama about players being misused.
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Jordan
which is very unfortunate, especially when you already considered the lack of spots in the WNBA.
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oh yeah
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Jordan
And there seems to be some frustration going around Kelsey Plum, which I can see sort of from Kelsey's stance, where it's like, I'm a star player, but I was second or third fiddle with the Aces, so now I get to run my own show, but is that best for the team?
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Jordan
You know, there's just a lot stuff going on. Do you have any thoughts?
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Get Defensive Sports Network
a lot elements i think i think it's interesting that there's so much drama and the season only started two weeks ago um but it is very telling of course if she unfollowed them on instagram took them out of her bio those sorts of things like that is a very excuse me strong move because you know people on the internet are always watching those sorts of things so it's what
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Jordan
This is so childish, bud. This is so childish.
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Oh ah yeah, because I'm
Investment in Women's Sports
00:10:18
Get Defensive Sports Network
never going to notice that type of stuff. um I think it was somebody, so this is related. So Stefan Diggs, obviously, he went to the Met Gala, right? He was wearing like this long fur pelt thing.
00:10:28
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And then Cardi B posted a picture on Instagram wrapped in that pelt. And someone like posted the photos like next to each other. They're like, oh my gosh, Cardi B, the woman that you are. And someone retweeted and was like, I really can't believe y'all be noticing that type shit.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Like, y'all are so like who cares that she like how did y'all even figure it out like i mean yes it's obvious it's the same thing but like who's looking back and forth that the picture is trying to figure out like that's too much so i don't like that i hate the whole oh someone don't follow somebody nonsense but it also is an indicator or something so the biggest thing with rakia is i've never seen her that emotional before uh and in crying and all those things um
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Jordan
Yeah.
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I don't know anything about what the fandom said about the coach potentially not liking her, but I do think that she is absolutely underutilized. like And this is no shade to Sarah Ashley Barker. She's a great guard, but realistically, she should not be getting more playing time than Rekia Jackson.
00:11:18
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Like, she's rookie. And that's like no tea.
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Jordan
Hello?
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She she just shouldn't. Now, Rekia did just come off a concussion protocol, but so she missed a couple games because she was concussed. But I don't know, man. I just hope you i just hope whatever it is,
00:11:32
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it works itself out and she starts to feel better because she really, in my opinion, she was one of the most pro-rate individuals out of last year's draft. So to see her still be misused is really frustrating.
00:11:43
Jordan
Yeah, and and regardless of the friend or not the friend and this and that, she is being misused.
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Yeah.
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Jordan
Like, that is the one fact in the whole thing, that she is being misused and she is not getting playing time that she deserves where she legitimately could be a star in this league.
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Yeah.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Yeah.
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especially with the Sparks.
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Jordan
Um...
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Like, the Sparks only have, I think, now with Herbie and Gwan, eight active players to choose from. Like, it's not like they have this deep-ass bench and this deep-ass roster that she's just getting overshadowed by certain people.
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Like, She should 100% be starting. She should 100% be the go-to guard. Cause the other problem is like, she's the only person on the sparks in my opinion, who knows how to just go get a fucking bucket. Like if you need a bucket, you need to put the ball in McKee's hands.
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Cause she's going go get a bucket.
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Jordan
Yep.
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Kelsey needs screens and all kinds of other stuff. De'Arica is an undersized big. So sometimes she gets, gets her work done. Sometimes she doesn't like, it just makes no sense.
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Jordan
Yeah, so it's very unfortunate for America's Queen with Kia Jackson, but I mean,
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Jordan
I don't know. This is one of the things that I need to sort of research. I just don't have the institutional knowledge. I don't know how long rookie contracts are, but I know it's not as long.
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Four years, I believe.
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Jordan
Is it four?
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I want to say, hold on
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Jordan
Okay, well, that's unfortunate. I was thinking it was like three. So i was go i was thinking that she could get out a little bit faster than you can at other sports. But because if it was, is it player option or team?
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Yeah, three years with the option for the fourth.
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Jordan
It's probably the team option.
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Team.
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Jordan
Well, hopefully it's just three years, and then after next year, there's a new CBA, and she can go find someone that's actually going to use her.
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Yeah.
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Jordan
But yeah, there seems to be a lot of frustration and anger around Rekia Jackson and her usage and the new coach of the Los Angeles Sparks. Moving on,
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oh
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I just don't even want to.
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Jordan
Zion Williams.
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i don't I just don't even want it. Like, i don't. we Go i ahead.
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Jordan
We'll just say it and we'll move on. Zion Williamson is being accused of rape. um Let's see what else. In a lawsuit, he's being accused of multiple things.
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It's six. sexual, physical, emotional, and financial abuse during a multi-year relationship with Jane Doe.
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Jordan
Yes.
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And it was a relationship that started his freshman year at Duke and lasted until about two years ago. 12, yeah.
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Jordan
Yes, it's said that he raped her, hit and kicked her made her fear for her life in several instances before the relationship ended in June 2023.
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well
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Jordan
She also alleged that Williamson falsely imprisoned and stalked her, threatened to kill her, and that he had a pattern of abusive, controlling, and threatening behavior.
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threatened to kill her family, um was violently assaulting her sexually many, many times. She's very concerned about this, which is why she's going by Jane Doe. um And she is holding him up for anywhere from 18 to $50 million. dollars She's seeking monetary damages, including punitive damages for emotional distress.
00:14:44
Get Defensive Sports Network
It's a 12 twelve paid civil complaint with multiple complaints from when their time in Louisiana as well as in California. um This is not surprising. And that's the part that is annoying is that this is not surprising.
00:15:02
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I've never liked the boy. If you, if anybody has ever been following me for a while, if following us for a while or knows we are not. Thanks. I'm here at Get Towards the Sports Network because I've never been a fan of somebody who gets overhyped and then doesn't deliver.
00:15:16
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Never been a fan of that. Hated all of his marketing. Hated it. Oh, the next LeBron. He's this, he's this. this Shut up.
00:15:22
Jordan
But also not even just the over-marketing, right? It's just the fact that like he never took the sports series, right?
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of
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Jordan
When you talk about like, like we talk about his conditioning and his availability and the the various reports and the and the different things like that.
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Very Charles Barkley. Mm-hmm.
00:15:38
Jordan
So it's it's very unfortunate for the women involved. And that's all I'll say. i do have a ah slightly related but unrelated note. And I say this being very, very careful, because I don't know, like, it's a weird transition, but um I went to Times Square with my sister and my niece, which wasn't super excited about that, and in Times Square, and in Times Square, there's a ticker that does the ESPN notifications, and I would just like to say, on that ticker, it said Zion Williamson accused of rape,
00:16:03
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Times Square is a place.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Jordan
Let's take away something so serious, right? Because this is very serious. Do you know how crazy it is for like any detail of your life to just be on a ticker in Times Square?
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In Times Square, that's insane.
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Jordan
Like I just looked up. I'm in Times Square.
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ah
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Jordan
I'm seeing all these people. I'm seeing all these stores. I'm seeing all. i'm seeing the people who are dressed up as Minnie and Mickey Mouse and all the things and all this stuff. And then I just look up and the biggest letters I've ever seen.
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and
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Jordan
It's just a ticker that runs Zion Williams and the Cube of Raids.
00:16:48
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That's nuts.
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Jordan
obviously it said other things, but like the ESPN ticker in Times Square is insane.
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Yeah.
00:16:53
Jordan
um But yeah, so this is, that that is, but I was just like, like, I just was, i don't know. I wasn't expecting that. I wasn't expecting that to Times Square. I wasn't expecting that. And just looked up and I'm just like, have a good day. I'm just like,
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Jordan
on the ticker in Times Square like with all the ads, like like that is in somebody's picture.
00:17:07
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On the ticker.
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Jordan
Somebody's taking a picture, and in the back of that picture, there's an ESPN ticket that says Zion Williamson accused of rape. So yeah, you know we we'll see what comes out of that, but it's very unfortunate for the women involved, especially if it's true, and I tend to believe that.
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Jordan
If it's true, I am definitely someone that
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Ain't nobody writing 12
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Jordan
leans towards, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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pages of lies.
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Jordan
So yeah.
00:17:31
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Ain't nobody doing that. In more positive news, this I am particularly excited about. What?
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Jordan
No.
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Oh, this I am particularly excited about. I saw this the other day on the internet, but the major league baseball, is partnering with Athletes Unlimited Softball League and they are backing them um as basically to kind of be the the women's arm of the MLB instead of starting their own women's league, which I think is absolutely brilliant.
00:17:57
Get Defensive Sports Network
But they're really, really investing in it. Softball, of course, is obviously becoming a very, very popular sport. It used to be pretty popular. And then it kind of fell off and now it's kind of like back having its moment. So yes, they are, I'm not exactly sure what all of the details of the deal are. I don't know you know more about it. I just know that they're partnering with them.
00:18:16
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Mm-hmm.
00:18:16
Jordan
Yeah, there wasn't a lot of details in the deal. the main details is that they're a major financial like sponsor and that they're going to be paying a lot of money to the league, but then they're also going to advertise it during like baseball games and various things.
00:18:32
Jordan
They're going to be in charge of some marketing. And I think they're going to like lend some of their services because obviously Major League Baseball is over 100 years old. So instead of the league having to kind of do everything on their own, baseball Major League Baseball is going to support some of those things.
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Yeah.
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Oh yes.
00:18:47
Jordan
that's That's really all that I saw out of it. I'm sure, of course, that there will be more info to come. um
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I'm looking and it says they the financial assistance from the MLB will help the AUSL with league operational costs in many areas of MLB's business operations. We'll engage with AUSL, including collaborative sales and marketing efforts.
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um And then they will be doing a traveling circuit for teams. They will be featuring 24 games per team um in a traditional format in 10 different cities. And that starts this week on June 7th.
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um And then the top two teams will be in a best of three championship in late July.
00:19:31
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Yeah, so.
00:19:36
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And, you know, I just think it's crazy how when you invest in women's sports, there are people who watch them.
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Wow, it's so crazy when you like put it on the TV.
00:19:43
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You know?
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People like turn on the TV and watch it all purpose a lot of the time. I know it's crazy.
00:19:51
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i don't know about you and me personally, i would have never guessed that.
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I truly had no idea of
00:19:54
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but but joe yeah But jokes aside, I mean, it's right it's sort of unfortunate that it's taking so long. And, well, obviously this happens more for you than me because you are Black and a woman. We do believe intersexuality here. But it's very tiring, right, to see that First black blank.
00:20:12
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First black this. First black that.
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Yeah.
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And it's like, damn, in 2025, we're still having first?
00:20:16
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We're still first.
00:20:17
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And that is even more so with women, of course, when it's like, yeah ah you know, Major League Soccer is only a couple years old.
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of like
00:20:23
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The WNBA is only 30 or less than 30.
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thirty 30.
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um there There wasn't a professional women's volleyball league. There wasn't a professional women's hockey league. Like, all of these things are legitimately just the first. re-dos because the leagues that sort of like flamed out and various things like that.
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A previous iterations. Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:41
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So i know I said this on another show before, but i just, you know, I don't know if I'm going to have a daughter or not. I don't know when I'm having kids, but like it is one thing that I think about is just like, you know, whatever, I'm 30 for me, whatever.
00:20:54
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But like, where is it going to be when my kids are at the age that if they decide to play sports and they are lucky and blessed enough to be good at them, that they're going to have that right like this is going to be 18 years in and the WNBA is going to be 40 years in and NWSL is going to be 30 years in and you're going to have these sort of more established things and and we're sort of living through impetus of a lot of it but because of the WNBA because of the NWSL right and then because of the boom in college because college, there's now business people, right?
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Somewhere to go. Yeah.
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Yeah.
00:21:29
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Because the fans and the athletes already knew this, but there are now business people who are financially investing in these sports. And it is not to say that it's perfect, and it is way too late, of course, but we may get to a point where every professional men's league has a women's college.
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have was woman's arm, Yeah,
00:21:48
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and for Of course, for the ones that they're similar sports, baseball, softball, basketball, basketball, soccer, soccer.
00:21:51
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yeah.
00:21:54
Jordan
Volleyball does not technically have a male equivalent, but they have their own league. like Women can go professional in sports to the same rate that men can because for the longest time, women's sports were just a college thing or you had to go overseas.
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Yeah.
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like They just weren't supportive.
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Or they were just underground, they just weren't being...
00:22:09
Jordan
Yeah.
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The biggest thing that I've always said is that the WNBA did not just get good.
00:22:15
Jordan
No. like Come on.
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It did not just get good. it was always good. It was always good. it was always, i mean, when the WNBA started, the stadiums were packed. Like people were very hungry for women's basketball and they were excited about it. There just then became this weird plateau where the investment just stopped happening.
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The broadcast deals just stopped happening because my personal theory, and this may be crazy, But there's a lot of men in those front offices. And men don't think people give a fuck about women because they don't.
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So if Zayos are the main people who are making the decisions, of course women's sports are going to continue to be buried. It's not going to be pushed as hard. It's not going to be marketed as much. It's not going to be because it's not viewed as legitimate as the men's.
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And when the men's sports is making so much more money, especially in the case with the WBA versus the NBA, it's kind of like, well we should just invest in the league that's making all of this money rather than The little fledgling league that's not making as much, but investment, but it goes to show these last couple of years goes to show when you invest in women's sports, you get a retirement.
00:23:16
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Yeah, and it's just like it's very interesting to me, right?
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Like
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Because it's just like basic marketing, right? Like when like like or people
00:23:21
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it's so basic.
00:23:23
Jordan
No matter what it is, right? Sports or not sports, when you create a new product, people just don't fall in love with it, right? When you create a new product, it doesn't have 10 years of institutional knowledge and history and market share. Like you create the product, you do the thing and you grow and you learn and you make mistakes and you market and you find things to kind of attach it to the community and things like that. And it becomes this thing where like, maybe this is a bad example, right? But like Kleenex doesn't exist.
00:23:51
Jordan
Kleenexes are tissue paper.
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It's tissues.
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Yeah. Cause the branding. Yeah.
00:23:54
Jordan
But we call it Kleenex because of their brand shit.
00:23:57
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like You know what I mean? We call it Tylenol. Sorry, I was just watching a documentary and po on Tylenol Murders, but it's acetaminophen. The medicine is actually acetaminophen.
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Right.
00:24:08
Jordan
All of these things happen right where it's like these certain brands, right like there's a whole part of the country that calls pop Coke. Coke is a brand.
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It's just one seven.
00:24:17
Jordan
I want Coke.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But like it doesn't just mean that they want Coke. They want other things. right like it searchs just like
00:24:22
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Yeah. yeah
00:24:24
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if you invest and if you do the marketing and if you do the brand and if you listen to the consumer and you put it in front of them and you do all of these things right like the things happen like the nba like and it's like yes it started way earlier but like the nba wasn't the first basketball league the nfl wasn't the first league like you learn and you grow and you like but like and whatever year it was when american football was failing they didn't say you know what
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Wow.
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Let's just stop.
00:24:52
Jordan
they merged it they learned they did other things and now we have an american football which is the like the biggest sports entity in the world outside of soccer but as an individual league it may still be the biggest entity because there's so many sparse like soccer leagues in europe and various things like that so just like
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Exactly.
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Soccer leagues. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's because that was invested in and that's really the point is they they actually put more money into it in order to get it to where, yeah.
00:25:15
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yeah and it was allowed to grow it was allowed to make mistakes it was allowed to
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You know.
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learn the market and evolve and things like that, which has not been the case ever for a women's sports.
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Like, Asia Wilson being the first Black woman to have a signature shoe since Cheryl Swoops is insane. When you think about it, that's insane.
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Nike?
00:25:33
Jordan
I love Asia, but Candice couldn't get shoe.
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cant Well, I think, well, Candace was an Adidas athlete, but Nike.
00:25:36
Jordan
Cheryl Miller. Oh, did you say Nike shoe or a woman shoe? Oh, my bad, my I can't hear.
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Nike. Yeah. Nike, this is the first, she's the first black woman to have a signature shoot with Nike since Cheryl Swoops, which is like, okay, well, how did we go that many years without
00:25:50
Jordan
Come on.
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Cause there's a lot of black women who have come up through the league since then. Like, who
00:26:01
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and And it's just like, right, like, Jordans aren't, let's be honest, Jordans aren't marketed to women. But there is a huge population of black women who wear Jordans, athletes and or not.
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wear Jordans?
00:26:13
Jordan
So you can't like they're wearing sneakers.
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Right.
00:26:15
Jordan
You can't tell me that like that Nike. And it's this is so interesting with Nike because they have such a ah large sort of like shoes for them are very, very strict.
00:26:25
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Because, right, it's like they, let's be honest, they did do good, in my opinion, by Serena Williams, but, like, she didn't get a shoe, right?
00:26:31
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Yeah.
00:26:32
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So it's just, like, shoes for them are, like, very weird because they do, in other areas, market women very well.
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Yeah.
00:26:38
Jordan
But it's like, you telling me, you telling
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But like, Shakira should have a signature cleat. I'm sorry.
00:26:42
Jordan
Right.
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She should have a signature cleat.
00:26:42
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you tell it You telling me that Serena Williams wasn't a soul? Serena Williams' shoes, rackets, whatever. And it's like, it don't matter. She doesn't play basketball. So, like, give her a shoe.
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Like she could still have a shoe.
00:26:52
Jordan
Give her a shoe that people can wear. Call it all-purpose shoe. Call it a workout shoe. Call it a trainer.
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A running shoe, anything.
00:26:57
Jordan
Call it whatever you want to, right?
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Shakira doesn't have a cleat.
00:26:58
Jordan
Sha'Carri doesn't have a cleat, like... Like, thiss all of these things, it's just like, it is kind of crazy.
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yeah
00:27:03
Jordan
And even like the Asia Wilson thing, right? We learned later that it took some time because Asia wanted to be very intentional, but it literally took outrage for them to be like, hey, by the way, she does have a shoe.
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Yeah.
00:27:17
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and and And of course, I have a shoe.com and things, that was cute, but it's like, you could have said she had a shoe and it was coming.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You could have announced it.
00:27:24
Jordan
Instead, right, like, we were just thinking that she didn't have anything, and it took
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Yes.
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Cause they announced Caitlin Clark's shoe and look at how long it's taken for Caitlin's shoe to come on. Like,
00:27:33
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Like, so it's not about time. We get time, but you didn't announce it. So, like, there wasn't no marketing. There wasn't no thought behind it. And so, yeah, it's just...
00:27:41
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Yeah. It's just, but the but the point I'm getting at is just, it's just the investment. Like the shoe sold out in three minutes because she's going, she can sell a shoe.
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angel Angel shoes, same thing. Caitlin's shoes, same thing. Sabrina Ionescu's shoe is the second most worn shoe in the NBA. Like the shoes are good. Stewie's shoes are great.
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The shoes like don't, and they sell great because we know these players and because we give a crap about them. Like why aren't they on billboards in Times Square? Like it makes no sense, especially considering, and I hate to even do this, but we're going to keep it all the way real.
00:28:15
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Even like if you take a basic marketing course, if you've taken any sort of marketing courses, really advanced marketing courses, they kind of get into this a little bit more They talk about how women are more marketable them and have been.
00:28:26
Jordan
Yeah.
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for some time for both products for products that are geared towards both populations. So to me, for them to not even be really like even invested in like this until now is wild to me. Cause I'm like, y'all could have been made money off these people.
00:28:39
Jordan
Yeah. and And I also think a major flaw, right, for the people who run these leagues is because they're so male-centric, right?
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Like,
00:28:46
Jordan
Where it's just like, okay, you're like, oh, who's going to sponsor women's sports?
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yeah.
00:28:51
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Women's products?
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Women coach is involved.
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Makeup?
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Fenty is involved.
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Bags?
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Cover girl is involved.
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like Like tampons? and like women like learning like but like this like this like
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Hello.
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I'm sorry. ah This may be news to people, but a tampon commercial is not marketed for me. right like You know what I mean?
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Hello.
00:29:09
Jordan
like like A makeup commercial is not marketed for me. There are brands that exist that are marketed to and for women. everywhere. And so to think that they wouldn't be interested in marketing and being marketed by and being, I can't think of the word, I'm going to say champion, that's not the word, but like to have a, thank you, ambassador, to have an ambassador who's in a woman's world, like all these things.
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In investing.
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Like have them as ambassadors. Yeah.
00:29:34
Jordan
And it's like, oh, wow. This has happened. Yeah. Why wouldn't Elf Cosmetics? Why wouldn't Fenty? Why wouldn't all of these things want to get into this market? that just The market didn't exist.
00:29:43
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The market was not there.
00:29:43
Jordan
ah the The space wasn't there for them to do it.
00:29:46
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But I also have no belief whatsoever that Adam Silver was really up in there pitching the WNBA the same way that the NBA was being pushed.
00:29:47
Jordan
So they couldn't do it.
00:29:55
Jordan
No.
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It just wasn't happening. It was like, cause and it was also like, why does every sponsor got to be for both of them? Like, they don't all have to be for both of them.
00:30:02
Jordan
Right. Like...
00:30:03
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Like, unfortunately, there's just certain things that are going to be geared towards women.
00:30:06
Jordan
Like, yeah.
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that And that's what makes sense, to your point, the tampons, the, you know, certain types of beauty products, whether it's skincare or hair care or those sorts of things. Like it doesn't have to be, you know what i mean?
00:30:18
Jordan
Shea Moisture wouldn't want to get in there? Like, what are talking about?
00:30:20
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If Miel is getting involved now, like, well, Shaymocher is involved actually, but yeah, like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:20
Jordan
it Like, yes, sure. You know, Gatorade. Right, but I'm saying like historically. Yes, Gatorade should have male and women athletes, right? Nike should have men and women athletes. You know what I mean? like Fucking Manscaped.
00:30:35
Jordan
That's a very male product that gets to...
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It's a male product.
00:30:37
Jordan
that gets to Yeah, like right?
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Gillette needs to be over there with the NBA and we'll take Venus. Like it's okay. Bro.
00:30:42
Jordan
It's just like like like this doesn't exist. like we How many delight commercials have you seen? but you but but But you telling me when you were thinking about women's sports, you didn't think Venus would... It's...
00:30:51
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You could have done the who wear short shorts commercial with the girls in the shorter shorts for the uniforms.
00:30:52
Jordan
it's
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Like, come on.
00:30:57
Jordan
get essence Yeah, just, it's things that are so, like, really should be so common sense.
00:30:57
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This is not, it's not difficult.
00:31:04
Jordan
And the and the the ah legitimately, the only answer is sexism, right? Like, because, like, that's the thing where it's just, like, it's like, how do you know it's an ism? How do you know it's sexism? How you know it's racism? How you know it's whatever it is?
00:31:13
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but It don't make sense.
00:31:13
Jordan
When the answer is common sense, it's just like laid out right in front of you and it doesn't happen. And it's like, huh, because you're telling me nobody in the world thought, man, if we had successful women athletes in sports and things like that, the other successful women marketed brands would also therefore want to.
00:31:31
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What? Men are
00:31:31
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No, because they think women are not important. And that's just what it comes down to. and then And then with the WNBA specifically, we're now talking about Black gay women.
00:31:36
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the only people.
00:31:41
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They don't give a goddamn. Which is why women's soccer even got a little bit more of a push because women's soccer is dominated by white girls.
00:31:47
Jordan
Yes. Yeah.
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T, right?
00:31:50
Jordan
Hey, not,
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the
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The most popular girl, not girl, but
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not for much longer.
00:31:53
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Cause I that you, that you listen, that team real black. Right. Yes.
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That's getting it real. It's getting blacker every year. but But that's because now black girls have access to some the around ways that they didn't have before.
00:32:00
Jordan
if right yes
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But I mean, but you're talking about the the most popular women in the W, the most popular, most marketed, most pushed are white. Sue Burge, Diana Taurasi, your Stewies, your Sabrina.
00:32:15
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Not to say that they're not good because they are. But typically the face of the WNBA at any given time was a white woman, right?
00:32:22
Jordan
And this is how you know that they don't pay attention because how many men and rappers and athletes and things were wearing that Candace Parker jersey?
00:32:22
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They did not know how to
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Bro.
00:32:30
Jordan
Like, like, it's just like that was, that was a cultural moment, but then you add racism into the sexism and it just eyes closed, right?
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You start adding the misogynoir and then again, these women are good majority. Like, WNBA players have to come out as straight. Okay? These are also, there's a lot of gay women as well.
00:32:47
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Yeah.
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So there's also that issue too of like, you know, they're, it was a lot of bullshit is the point. And we are talking about this for so long and we got a whole show to get through.
00:32:57
Jordan
Yeah, but but either the the to sum it up, and i'll like I'll say my last piece, you can say your last piece.
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But
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That's all, and I'm good.
00:33:04
Jordan
we are fine that like We are finally getting to a place where people realize that, yes, of course, as always, men women are marketable.
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I'm good. How
00:33:10
Jordan
And then also, right, because when we talk about If you want to go deep, you want to talk about allyship, you want to talk about champion, things like that, right? The person, and in this case, the league that has privilege has a right, right?
00:33:23
Jordan
And and is in a lot of cases, necessary to uplift the other. So yes, the fucking 180-year institution of the MLB, it does make sense for you to uplift a women's song league, right?
00:33:29
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about Judy? Yeah.
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the softball league and don't start your own.
00:33:38
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like And so yeah, I
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I just thought that was brilliant. That to me was a brilliant move. Don't start your own because now you're, you are saturating the market in a way that's not necessary. There's a professional league that already exists.
00:33:49
Jordan
Yes.
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Just put your money behind them, get them to a a good level. And hopefully we're having a conversation about there being a league that runs as long as the MLB on the women's side. And now these college athletes who are doing amazing
00:34:05
Jordan
Yes. Because don't call us off on cell phone.
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amazing work.
00:34:09
Jordan
it I'm watching it right now.
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Like Like it's it's, I mean, when they had women's softball in the Olympics, it was like one of the most popular sports.
00:34:11
Jordan
Cell phone.
00:34:16
Jordan
Yep.
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Like it was a very, very huge deal. So to give those athletes somewhere to aspire to, like, I just love it. I love it so much. And I really do hope it grows because softball is huge. I'm not a softball and baseball person, but is incredibly popular.
00:34:31
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So I think the the MLB is also very smart with their timing as well. But anywho, moving on to
00:34:37
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yeah Yeah. And and the to wrap up our news after we spent 30 minutes on it, Paris Saint-Germain PSG wins the champion league for the first time.
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Yeah.
00:34:46
Jordan
This is European soccer. Why is European soccer on this list? Two reasons. To go back to me being in Times Square, for those you who don't know this, New York, because it's big but small at the same time, you York has a lot of themed things, right? There's an Ohio State theme bar. a Michigan theme bar.
00:35:02
Jordan
There's a Liverpool-themed bar. like There's a lot of soccer-themed bar and just various things because people from all over the world move here and whatever.
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yeah
00:35:10
Jordan
So when I was in Times Square, and i was like, oh, we're about to leave, but they want to take some pictures. They want to do whatever. And then we saw this freaking like impromptu parade of all these people. And my sister and my niece like, oh, what is that?
00:35:21
Jordan
But because you know I have ESPN on my phone, whatever, I was like, oh, they're PSG fans. That's soccer. They just won the Champions League for the first time. And it was like... 100 people, hundreds of people just like marching and like, so and if you know anything about soccer, they do a lot of chants and various various things like that.
00:35:35
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They have a lot of chance. Yeah.
00:35:37
Jordan
And so they like march they're the middle of Times Square and then they stopped and like people were like leading chants and various things like that. And so not only that though, because that's in the United States, right? European soccer.
00:35:49
Jordan
Also to an unfortunate end, as is a case that happens a lot of times with sports, There were riots. They never call it riots in sports, but there were riots and 491 people were arrested.
00:36:03
Jordan
And unfortunately, there were two deaths. And so just kind of a celebrate celebratory moment for PSG. But then also, like not that we have the biggest influence in the world, but like I really do beat sports fans to kind of chill out a little bit.
00:36:17
Jordan
And I know like me and you,
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we We need to take deep breaths. Yeah.
00:36:19
Jordan
Yeah, I know me and you were talking and you were like, oh, this is like, why is the SEC ruining like field storming? And it's low-key because of this, because like ah it hasn't happened and it probably will never happen, especially because a lot of them wear, like the they have all the pads and things.
00:36:34
Jordan
like the like Imagine if a football player was stomped to death on accident because of field storming.
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Because everybody i'm so excited.
00:36:38
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like It's sort of these sort of things.
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Yeah.
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and so
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Yeah.
00:36:42
Jordan
So congratulations to PSG and to all the PSG fans, but also our thoughts and condolences to the to people who died in relation to this. Sports are an amazing thing, right?
00:36:55
Jordan
They they bring people together, but like also we do need to to be slightly more serious.
00:37:00
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We need to take breath.
00:37:01
Jordan
like People shouldn't die, especially in a celebratory thing, right? So yeah, yeah.
00:37:08
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I agree. I don't have much else to say. i do I'm a fan of sports culture and I feel like, yes, it should be celebrated. And I love the field storming or the court storming thing because of that.
00:37:19
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But I also know like that shouldn't be dangerous. I mean, I talked about it last year. Like I was tired of the goalpost tearing. Do you know how expensive it is to put up a goalpost? Like I was tired of the tearing down of the goalpost.
00:37:31
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So I get it. Like there's gotta to be ways to celebrate where it's not like completely like losing their minds. Like I know even you being in New York, like when New York went to the ECF, oh my gosh, when the Knicks went to the ECF,
00:37:41
Jordan
They were going crazy, yeah. Mmm.
00:37:43
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Oh God, I thought they won the championship. Like, why are we outside sending one street signs? Like, what is going on? I also thought that they prematurely, I think that they actually, i'm a very firm believer in sports jinxes.
00:37:55
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I think when they did the signs with the players' names and renamed streets with them, I think think that's what caused them to lose. You don't do stuff like that unless you win the chip.
00:38:06
Jordan
See, so for me, i see two sides of that, where it's like, this is the best that they've done a very long time. And let's say that they never get here. Like, well, okay, so first of all, i'm not disagreeing with you.
00:38:17
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Yeah, of course.
00:38:17
Jordan
Because you're talking about like the like sports juju and like and things like that, right?
00:38:18
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Yeah.
00:38:23
Jordan
So like, but it's hard because it's like, yes, I do believe that that is very real. But then at the same time, it's like, what if they never got here again and they didn't properly celebrate it on the way?
00:38:33
Jordan
And so it's kind of like a weird thing where like, and and I do think next time, if there's a next time, they maybe won't go as hard. But like, what if there wasn't a next time and they're like, we didn't celebrate, we weren't happy for our best season 30 years and then we never got there again.
00:38:48
Jordan
But like I definitely do think that there is some kind of like to your point, which the city and the fans can't necessarily think about, but there is some sort of things with sports that you shouldn't do. i actually just saw this
College Football Playoff Models: Fairness and Revenue
00:38:59
Jordan
thing that I didn't know about, and I don't know if you know about this or if the people listening know about this.
00:39:03
Jordan
There is a superstition in hockey that you should never touch the trophy until you win it.
00:39:11
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Oh yeah, that makes sense.
00:39:13
Jordan
And so, but it's not like that in other sports because like, the you know, they take the trophy and they do these things and whatever, but like literally it was funny because there's one of the few black hockey players, he's like an analyst now and like someone like pulled out the trophy and he was like, ah, I can't touch it, I can't touch it.
00:39:15
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Yeah.
00:39:25
Jordan
He's like, but you're not a player anymore. He's like, but can't touch it. Like there's this superstition that like, if you touch that trophy, however you get there, you see it, whatever, if you touch it before you win, you will never win.
00:39:28
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In the culture, yeah.
00:39:36
Jordan
And so to your point, I do think that there's some considerations like that in sports.
00:39:41
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There's some juju, there's some issues in the juju situation but with that. But actually speaking of juju, um this has nothing to do with juju. Let's talk about what's going on in college football.
00:39:54
Jordan
Okay, so i yeah I promise that this will be the last time that we talk about the playoffs until they actually make a decision.
00:39:55
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What the heck is going on?
00:40:02
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Yeah.
00:40:03
Jordan
But I did think that this was partially interesting in that there has been, ah now that it seems like we're at two sort of ideas, right? And we're sort of one is potentially being led by the Big Ten and one is potentially being led by the SEC, who are the power two, the you know sort of the namesake for this this podcast.
00:40:19
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Shock. Shock.
00:40:25
Jordan
I felt like it'd be cool to spend a couple minutes to think about both of them and then no longer talk about it because there's news that comes out every week and we can't talk about this every week. So i want I want to lay out both of them.
00:40:37
Jordan
but the read And then I want to specifically sort of talk about it because a lot of times, right, like sports media, who I think a lot of them are stupid, let's be honest, sports media is typically
00:40:45
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Yes, you did.
00:40:47
Jordan
on like one accord with these sort of things. And so the reason it sort of really piqued my interest is because there are like people in the sports media, like I keep seeing articles of people on different sides and that doesn't typically happen with like big things. It kind of feels like someone goes into the sports media group chat of everyone and they all find like the same thing. And this is one of the things where they're not.
00:41:09
Jordan
So as of right now, it seems to be guaranteed if you're not watching on YouTube, which you should because we're both beautiful. um' I'm doing air quotes guaranteed that we're going to go to 16 instead of 14. And we're definitely not staying at 12. I think you all knew that.
00:41:23
Jordan
um There are two leading sort of. models, but the models aren't just different in name, they're sort of different in the theory behind them.
00:41:35
Jordan
So one is the 5 plus 11, which is essentially, it is exactly what we have now, but with more teams. So there is five guaranteed spots for conference championships, one for the SEC, one for the Big 10, one for the ACC, one for the Big 12, and then one for the highest rated G5 team.
00:41:52
Jordan
And then there are 11 at-large teams. This seems to be the one that the SEC coaches specifically are backing and the ACC spoke out and the Big 12 really wants this one.
00:42:03
Jordan
And then the other one, which for it seems to be led by the Big 10, but also like the ADs for the SEC wanted this one. So like the SEC is split.
00:42:12
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Mm-hmm.
00:42:14
Jordan
The coaches want the 5 plus 11, the ADs, administrators, and things, that as long as the Big 10 want the other one. It is the 4-4-2-2-1-3, which is a mouthful, but essentially it is the SEC gets four guaranteed spots.
00:42:29
Jordan
The Big 10 gets four guaranteed spots. ACC and Big 12 get two guaranteed spots. There's one guaranteed spot for the best G5 team, and then there are three at-larges.
00:42:42
Jordan
So, the sort of conversation around these two things, the sort of theory that makes sense the thing, right? Is it's, there's this conversation of which one are you really earning the spot, right?
00:42:55
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And that's where I was about to go.
00:42:56
Jordan
There's this conversation of,
00:42:57
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Okay.
00:42:58
Jordan
Are you actually earning the spot with the 4-4 plus, right?
00:43:02
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Yeah.
00:43:03
Jordan
Because your conference games matter, your regular season of games matter. Yes, your league is guaranteed four spots, but the team sort of have to fight for it. And that then leads the potential for the play-in games, right, that that the SEC and Big Ten were talking about.
00:43:20
Jordan
And it's very heavily, it is not objective, right?
00:43:20
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Mm-hmm.
00:43:24
Jordan
You get in based on your conference standing.
00:43:24
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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:43:27
Jordan
either the top four teams in the conference get in or the top two teams and then four through three through six three four five three through six um play playing game to get in and then it's solely based on the regular season it's solely based on your conference standing and how good you were
00:43:37
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mm-hmm.
00:43:46
Jordan
or Are you more earning the spot in the 5 plus 11 where it is still subjective? You play your games and then the committee ranks you as they always have.
00:43:57
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Mm-hmm.
00:43:57
Jordan
and the kind and And then there's this sort of different opinion on which one of these models is actually going to make teams still play non-conference games, right?
00:43:57
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Mm-hmm.
00:44:06
Jordan
Like this year, we have OSU Texas. We have Bama, Wisconsin. ah last year like we had This year, we have LSU, Clemson. Last year, we had like so last year or two years ago, we had Clemson, Georgia.
00:44:18
Jordan
There's a sort of differing opinion on which one of these models is going to make teams want to still play out-of-conference games because the thought is that if they choose the wrong model or if they would have stayed at 12, teams would be fearful because they didn't want to lose a game.
00:44:35
Jordan
And so they felt like if I play Ohio State, if I play Texas, if I play Georgia, if I play this good team, if I play good on good and I lose in week one or two, I'm no longer going to get into the playoffs.
00:44:46
Jordan
So why would I play this team? Let me just play a schedule that's going to guarantee me 10 or 11 wins, which I think is loser shit, so that I can get in. So there's these two boring things of which one is actually earning it.
00:45:00
Jordan
Which one makes the most sense? And i want you to answer this question. So the last thing the last piece of information I'll give you to help formulate your thoughts, the negative, right? Because it seems like the five plus 11 you played on the field, right?
00:45:15
Jordan
But the negative potentially with the five plus 11, and I think the things that the people who are against it aren't considering is what's gonna stop the committee from saying it is the power two.
00:45:28
Jordan
It is the Big Ten and SEC, and you're going to have a year or two or three where out of 16 teams, there's only one Big 12 team and one ACC team or two ACC teams and one Big 12, and the other 15, that is bad math, the other 12, let's just say 16 teams, there's a case that there's going to be a year where between the Big Ten and SEC, like 12 of them or 11 of them are from these conferences
00:45:33
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where it's a big 10 SEC invitational. Yeah.
00:45:54
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It's just all them. Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:59
Jordan
and because again you look at last year, we had this conversation of should 9-3 Bama get in? Should 9-3 Ole Miss get in? Should 9-3 South Carolina get in?
00:46:06
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Yeah, yeah.
00:46:08
Jordan
If you expand that to 16, they all get in. And what about that? What about Miami? Does Miami get in?
00:46:13
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Yeah.
00:46:14
Jordan
Or do they put in 9-3 SEC team? Because it's subjective based on the committee.
00:46:18
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An SEC bias runs deep. Yeah, yeah
00:46:21
Jordan
So,
00:46:23
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i hate both of them. Go back to the drawing board. I hate both of them because um the four plus whatever, all the numbers that you just said, I'll like guaranteed spots, fuck the bullshit, earn it.
00:46:35
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So that's, hate that. But with the five plus 11, I also understand it could quickly turn into a SEC Big Ten Invitational. And then the teams that are playing well, but are just not in those bigger conferences won't get as many spots.
00:46:49
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I have a feeling that it probably will need to be actually a combination of the two. Like there's obviously the five guaranteed, I think there should always be five guaranteed spots for conference championships, obviously.
00:47:01
Jordan
Right.
00:47:02
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I think the at-large spots still need to have a limitation on how many of them are coming from which conference, if that makes sense. Like it's realistically, no, it should not be fucking six sec teams and five big 10 teams and then the rest is no that's crazy i still think there needs to be a level of like limitation for like oh oh my gosh the biggest fly just flew from behind my computer what the hell oh that fly is huge it's huge okay i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm oh my god i'm sorry whatever anyway what i saying i just completely um
00:47:40
Jordan
Do you feel like they should
00:47:40
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I feel like there's, there has to be some sort of limitation somewhere with the conferences because, well, first of all, and I know that this is just not the time and place for this, but like, you know how i feel about this committee nonsense anyway.
00:47:54
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You know how feel about this committee. There's no way for it to be objective. I don't give a fuck. There's no way for this to be objective if we're still gonna do this committee crap. So
00:48:07
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I have no idea what you, I don't even know Oh my gosh.
00:48:10
Jordan
We're not supposed to come on it.
00:48:11
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I know, but this fly. Okay, anyways, so that's my that's my only issue is i think either way this shit's gonna be biased in a weird way. I think even with the four plus four plus whatever nonsense, like I guess there is still a level of like earning the spot, ah you know?
00:48:32
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even with the four guaranteed spots. But the other issue I have with that is like, let's just say one of these days, the ACC and the big 10 are not the most dominant conferences in college football anymore.
00:48:43
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Right now they have four guaranteed spots where the ACC only has two, but the ACC might be the better conference. You know what i mean? Like I'm, I'm no, that's not really going happen probably, but like, that's the other thing is I feel like I don't like having where, well, they are always going to get more spots than the other schools. I don't know. I hate all it.
00:49:02
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I hate all of it. I just wish it was straight seating. um just wish it was straight seating and it was just based on who is the top 16 and just call it a day.
00:49:11
Jordan
Yeah, but even that, the seeding is objective. So it's it's kind of, it's it's rough to kind of figure that out.
00:49:15
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Yeah.
00:49:21
Jordan
So I did some quick math.
00:49:23
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Oh, I see what's happening now.
00:49:24
Jordan
I did some quick math.
00:49:24
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Yes.
00:49:27
Jordan
So if we did the top 16 last year, there would have been four Big Ten teams. There would have been six SEC teams, including Ole Miss,
00:49:36
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God.
00:49:39
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And Bama.
00:49:39
Jordan
whose lieutenant who was 9-3, and South Carolina, who was 9-3.
00:49:41
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Yeah.
00:49:44
Jordan
There would have been three ACC teams. So there was two. But Florida, ah Miami would have gotten in at
00:49:48
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Mm-hmm.
00:49:52
Jordan
There only would have been one Big 12 team still.
00:49:55
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Mm-hmm.
00:49:56
Jordan
but when They wouldn't have got the two. They would have literally only had one. It would have been Arizona State.
00:50:01
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Mm-hmm.
00:50:02
Jordan
There would been three. already said there would have been one team, which is always technically probably going be one. And then there's going to be the Notre Dame. So you kind of sort of look at it, and it's like if the the reason why the SEC is kind of pushing back on the 4-4 is it's like there may be years when we get six, right?
00:50:18
Jordan
There could be years where the Big Ten gets five, right?
00:50:22
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is five.
00:50:23
Jordan
But the ACC, last year they would have gotten three, but the Big 12 would have gotten one. So the Big 12 is saying no to two guaranteed, but last year they would gotten one, and there's a chance that there are other years that the ACC only gets one. So it's this hard push of like – right Yes, you're the 12. Yes, you're the ACC.
00:50:40
Jordan
But are you over... Do you have too much faith in yourself? Like, should you accept the two guaranteed because it's there?
00:50:51
Jordan
Because, again, last year there would only been one Big 12 team. If you do 16, if you do the straight seeding, and some of you may be like, why does this matter? But you also get more money based on your teams in the playoffs.
00:51:03
Jordan
So the Big 12 is like, we want to earn it on the field.
00:51:03
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Oh yeah, course. Yeah.
00:51:06
Jordan
We want 5 plus 11. But that doesn't help you.
00:51:10
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Yeah. I don't know. I think all of this is getting be a little unnecessarily convoluted. um
00:51:17
Jordan
Yes.
00:51:19
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and and I hate to even say it like that, but I think there's sometimes where you just talk about, you just over you just don't overdo it. You know what i mean? And I'm like, I know that the the way they had it before was still a little antiquated in the way that they were making those decisions.
00:51:32
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And so I know that they're trying to, in their own way, like, I guess, make it more quote unquote like fair. um But to me, I think I'm always going to lean more towards whatever model, whatever model, what's the word i'm looking for? Whatever model,
00:51:48
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facilitates the best level of competition, if that makes sense.
00:51:53
Jordan
Yeah.
00:51:53
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I'm with that. i want
00:51:54
Jordan
Yeah.
00:51:55
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I want teams to want to win all of their games. I want teams to want to win their conference championships. I want teams to earn their spots, whatever, however that goes. Like, because I know that there's, I know there's, and I'm not a college football expert, obviously, but like, because I know there's ways where it's like, oh, but if we, if it's like this, then we won't want to play out a conference. Or if it's like that, then we won't want I just want whatever model is going to facilitate the best level of competition.
00:52:21
Jordan
yeah
00:52:22
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Really.
00:52:22
Jordan
So i I think personally, the 4-4 plus model is as what I'm calling it. That is the one that would make people most comfortable with playing out-of-conference games because ultimately you get your spot based on how you do in-conference.
00:52:40
Jordan
Because if you lose that out-of-conference game, but you still finish third in your conference, you're still getting in.
00:52:47
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You're getting in. Yeah.
00:52:48
Jordan
And it's not a subjective thing where they're like, oh, but your schedule and this or that. It's like you are the first you were the third best team in your conference. You finished third. You were getting in. Doesn't matter that you were LSU and you lost the to Clemson.
00:52:58
Jordan
Doesn't matter that you're Michigan and you lost to Alabama.
00:52:58
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Yeah.
00:53:00
Jordan
Doesn't matter that you're SMU and you lost to Oregon. You are the, or whatever, you are the second or third best team.
00:53:04
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Yeah.
00:53:08
Jordan
Ultimately, my final opinion is I really don't care that much because i just want more games.
00:53:12
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I don't give what damn.
00:53:13
Jordan
I just want more games. But I do think that quote-unquote best model is the 5 plus 11 simply because it just keeps things the same.
00:53:25
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Yeah.
00:53:26
Jordan
And the thing that I've pushed back on, you know this, and anyone who's listened to me for multiple years, the thing that I've pushed back on forever is college football has never been fair. It will never be fair. They did not create the playoff to be fair.
00:53:38
Jordan
They did not expand the playoff to be fair.
00:53:40
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To be fair.
00:53:40
Jordan
They expanded the playoff for access
00:53:40
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Yeah.
00:53:43
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Cash.
00:53:45
Jordan
And cash. They expanded it to say, you all at least get one team in so you can shut up about the fact that the SEC and the Big Ten are running the four-team playoff. Everyone gets in.
00:53:55
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Yeah.
00:53:56
Jordan
Everyone gets access. You can shut up. And I won't speak too much on access because they'd be doing that with colleges and black people and women too, but we won't talk about that right now. It's like, you get in, shut up. You're happy. You get in.
00:54:06
Jordan
And then the most important thing outside of access was money. It was, if I get four teams in instead of two, if I get five teams instead of two, if I get three teams instead of one, my conference gets more money.
00:54:11
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cash
00:54:18
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gets more money.
00:54:18
Jordan
Everyone gets more money.
00:54:19
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Yep.
00:54:20
Jordan
There's more TV dollars because there's more games. It's like everyone's talking about, oh, fair, fair, fair, fair.
00:54:22
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Yeah.
00:54:24
Jordan
fair This was never about fairness. This was never about crowning the best champion. They never cared about that. They don't care about the ACC. They don't care about the Big 12. They definitely don't care about the G5. I will push back forever that they did not do this for fairness. They did it for dollars and they did it for access so people would shut the hell up.
00:54:43
Jordan
And so because there's so much...
00:54:43
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Yeah. Well, they're feigning fairness.
00:54:48
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It's feigning fairness.
00:54:48
Jordan
oh i don't know, but that's the thing.
00:54:49
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Yeah.
00:54:50
Jordan
I disagree with that. I don't think anyone in power ever mentioned fairness. I think the fans and the media put that on them. I don't think they ever tried to be fair.
00:55:01
Jordan
They never hit the fact that this was for money and access. They never hit the fact that the SEC was like, hey, yeah, we're good with getting two teams every year, but if you're going to give us four, we'll take it.
00:55:12
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Yeah.
00:55:12
Jordan
If you're going to give us six, we'll take it.
00:55:12
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yeah
00:55:14
Jordan
You'll never hide the fact that the Big Ten was upset that in 10 years, it only happened like once or twice, but in 10 years, there's a couple times where the Big Ten champ didn't get into the playoffs, and the Big Ten was like, uh-uh, we need to get in every year, and we want to take two or three of our friends with us.
00:55:29
Jordan
This was never about the little...
00:55:29
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Well, if you're a champ, yeah, you need to get in. What are we talking about?
00:55:32
Jordan
And there was some time that the Big Ten champ didn't get in. This was never about SMU.
00:55:34
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That's insane.
00:55:36
Jordan
This was never about BYU. This was never about Texas Tech. It was never about access. It was never about fairness. It was, if we give you a spot, you will shut up.
00:55:47
Jordan
But also, for your one spot, we're going to get three more, which going to make us more money. Which is then, when they expanded the playoff, it's why the SEC got Texas and Oklahoma. Because now, instead of Texas and Oklahoma being Big 12 spots,
00:56:01
Jordan
They're SEC spots.
00:56:02
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There's CC spots.
00:56:03
Jordan
and why the Big Ten got USC, which is not good right now, but hypothetically you get USC and Oregon because when they make the playoffs, they're no longer Pac-12 spots. They're Big Ten spots.
00:56:14
Jordan
So, like, everyone talks about fairness, and it's a lie. And i don't even think it's a lie. i think it's because they never said it was about fairness. It was wishful thinking on behalf of fans and media, and the people in charge have never once ever said we're doing this to be fair.
00:56:31
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I mean, it's
00:56:31
Jordan
They should be fair. This is not a fair sport. It has never been fair in the history of the game.
00:56:35
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not fair.
00:56:37
Jordan
Like, let's be honest.
00:56:38
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It's never been fair. That's why I'm like, I guess that's big thing the bigger thing about it too is like, do I be talking about this so goddamn much? Because doesn't really matter however it shakes out.
00:56:47
Jordan
So.
00:56:48
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Somebody's still gonna be mad.
00:56:48
Jordan
ten For 10 years, we've been doing conference champions plus at-larges. At this point, just give me the conference champions, do the at-larges, and in five years when people are mad that over half of it is big team in SEC, then you can look at the Big 12 and say, hey, you had a chance to get guaranteed two spots and give you didn't want it.
00:56:55
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That's just what it needs to be. like
00:57:05
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Yeah.
00:57:07
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And you didn't take them.
00:57:08
Jordan
ACC, you had a chance to get back guaranteed two spots and you didn't want it. You said we could do better than that.
00:57:12
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Also, step your cookies up. Step your damn cookies up. Get your collectives together or have your own LLC like Kentucky. Get your cookies up. Get some donors. Get some money in your pockets. And go get the players that you need to get so that way y'all can get to where y'all need to get you. Because also to me, we ain't having no goddamn conversations if you're 11-1, 10-2.
00:57:31
Jordan
And that is that is true. So... Yes.
00:57:32
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We're not having this conversation anyway, so I don't want to fucking hear it Like, I'm very much, if you're winning, then what are we talking about? Which was my biggest issue last year.
00:57:39
Jordan
yes
00:57:41
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That's why I was heated, because I'm like, you're not about to fucking sit in my face and tell me that a 9-3 Bama is better than Indiana. Like, you're not going to do that with me today.
00:57:49
Jordan
But the thing is, the SEC and the Big Ten and these teams, they're not worried about their winners. They're worried about their losers because they want that 8-4 team to get in.
00:57:54
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But they're losers. I know. And oh well.
00:57:58
Jordan
They want that 9-3 team to get in. And the problem is, I get how bad it sounds on paper, but one more time,
00:57:59
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No.
00:58:06
Jordan
Last year, if we had the 4-4+, the Big 12 would have got two teams in. If we had the 5-11, they still would have only gotten one team in because most years they are not of quality, if we're being honest.
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Jordan
Colorado was not going to sneak in next last year.
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They weren't going to get in there.
00:58:23
Jordan
It just wasn't going to happen.
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No.
00:58:24
Jordan
and so
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00:58:26
Jordan
But at this point, I'm just tired of talking about it. like For me, I care much more about the calendar, when the games are played, like that sort of thing.
00:58:30
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Figure it out.
00:58:35
Jordan
And I want my other conference games. Just play. It doesn't matter.
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She was playing.
00:58:39
Jordan
Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, maybe Penn State. The teams that going to win was always going to win. It doesn't matter if it's 4 or 12 or 16 or
00:58:49
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Or 82 or whatever.
00:58:50
Jordan
Because it's never about fairness.
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Yeah.
00:58:52
Jordan
It's still going to be Ohio State. It's still going be Georgia. It's still going be Texas.
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On Beach, Texas.
00:58:55
Jordan
It's still going to be Oregon. Maybe it's going to be Alabama if their coach doesn't like, like depending on their coach, but it's, it's never going, I'm sorry.
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Bama might sneak in there eventually. That's
00:59:03
Jordan
It's never going to be Indiana, right? It's never going to be BYU. It's not going to be Syracuse. It's not going to be Iowa State. And it sure as hell not going to be Colorado. Like, it's the sport has never been built for them.
00:59:13
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it's not.
00:59:15
Jordan
But you know what Colorado and Syracuse and Missouri and Illinois and all them get? They get to say their team is in the fucking playoffs. And that still matters. And I will stick by that forever.
00:59:26
Jordan
That still matters because the sport is not about who wins the championship except for the 10 programs who can win one. For everyone else, it is about how far you can go.
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How far you got.
00:59:36
Jordan
and to And for your team to say, I made the playoffs. For a 21-year-old to be able to say, in my four years in college, we went to the playoffs twice. I got to go to a home playoff game.
00:59:47
Jordan
That still matters in this sport. They're not going fucking win the championship.
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00:59:50
Jordan
But you let them in, and everyone gets rich, and you give me the fan, more games to watch.
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we're happy.
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Exactly. That's all.
00:59:58
Jordan
It's fine.
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That's all. we don't need to have all these formulas and algebra and all this other bullshit. Just figure it out, make it fun and call it a day. I guess that's where my attitude is coming from too. Like I'm like, why are we having all this damn conversation about the playoffs? Like it's just figure it out.
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don't know. And again, to your point, thank you.
01:00:13
Jordan
Especially because they're all going watch. They're all going watch. We're all going to watch.
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And we're going to watch it 12, 14, 16, seven, whatever.
01:00:17
Jordan
like
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We're going to watch it's like,
01:00:20
Jordan
I watched 4. I watched the BCS. I would have watched the shit. And if I was alive, would have watched the shit in the 70s where they could just go to a newspaper and say, I won a National Championship. don't matter what it was. I was going watch it.
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this
01:00:31
Jordan
If I was alive 100 years ago, would have watched fucking Princeton. like It don't matter.
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It doesn't matter.
01:00:35
Jordan
would have watched it.
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Like, it is fine.
01:00:35
Jordan
I'm going watch it still.
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It's not the big deal. And I'm a football fan. I just was never into college football, as you guys know, until this year. I was sitting up watching bowl games that don't even mean nothing because I just enjoy the sport. So it's like, dude, figure it out, put the games on the television, and shut the hell up respectfully.
01:00:51
Jordan
Please.
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Like, it's figure out and put the games on TV. That's all. I just want to be able to watch the games, whether they're playing in, playing out, playing over, playing under. i don't care. I don't care. Because –
01:01:02
Jordan
And if it's in the regular season, great. But if it has to wait to be the playoffs, also fine. I want to watch Ohio State play good teams. I want to watch Oregon play good teams. I want to watch Alabama play good teams.
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I to watch the vi teams play each other.
01:01:12
Jordan
i want watch Alabama good teams. That's That's it.
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That's all.
01:01:14
Jordan
That's all.
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I'm sorry. I don't want to watch LSU beat up on insert directional school. I want to watch LSU in Georgia. Like that's what want watch.
01:01:20
Jordan
Yes. I want to watch Clemson play Alabama. I want to watch Miami play Michigan.
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Slimsyn and Bama.
01:01:28
Jordan
I want to watch SMU play Indiana.
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Yes.
01:01:30
Jordan
I want to watch Tennessee play Miami. Like, I want to see it.
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That's what I want to do. I want good football. So the ri the conclusion of the conversation is do whatever the hell you need to do to get me some good football.
01:01:41
Jordan
And just hurry the fuck up. Stop talking about it.
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And hurry up.
01:01:43
Jordan
Come on, please.
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Shit. Figure it out.
01:01:44
Jordan
man.
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Because at this point, we're not even talking about for this goddamn year. We're talking about for the year after that.
01:01:49
Jordan
oh
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Like, girl, I don't care. Figure it out.
01:01:52
Jordan
see
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I don't care. Because it's always going to either be Ohio State, Michigan, Bama, or somebody who get the trophy anyway.
01:01:55
Jordan
alright
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It doesn't matter.
01:01:59
Jordan
Georgia, Texas, like it's going to be the same.
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is it It's going to be, because realistically, like, it's Texas's championship to lose at this point next year anyway.
01:02:01
Jordan
Like, listen,
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but We'll get into that. We'll get to that. Oh
01:02:06
Jordan
I don't agree with that, but we'll talk about and and we'll talk about that in a month or so.
01:02:09
Jordan
I think Texas is a little overrated, but you know, little spoiler for little month or so, a little spoiler for month or so. The one spoiler that I will give you on my opinion, hmm,
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um my gosh, there's a Nat Englander, too. There's bugs everywhere. Oh my God. fly
01:02:21
Jordan
that's best' text That's the Texas summer. The one spoiler that I will give you is Texas lost his many play almost as many players as Ohio State did. And everyone thinks Texas is going to win the championship and no one thinks Ohio State is.
01:02:33
Jordan
And I'm not saying Ohio State's going to win. I'm saying those teams should be more closely aligned in the analysis and not.
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And they're not, yeah. I also, we need to also look into research into back to back.
01:02:42
Jordan
And going to talk about that a little bit later.
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So when was the last time there was a back to back champion?
01:02:52
Jordan
Yeah, because I'm not sure.
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i don't know if you know off the top of your head.
01:02:53
Jordan
um Yeah, I'm not. Bama's done it for sure.
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It's gotta be during the BAM era. It has to be.
01:02:57
Jordan
georgia did Georgia did not do it. Clemson did not do it. Bama did it. I feel like maybe it was 12, 13. I don't remember exactly, but Bama did
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01:03:06
Jordan
it. And then
01:03:10
Jordan
Texas did not do it. ah USC did it. USC went to three. Wait, did they went back to back? USC went to three straight and won two out of three. i think they went back to i think I think they went back to back and then the third one they lost to Texas.
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but not back-to-back.
01:03:26
Jordan
But this is a show. We just came up with a show idea.
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well We'll talk about the back-to-back because we we need to get into it.
01:03:32
Jordan
yeah
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i love stuff like that, the history, the information, whatever, blah, bla blah, blah. Okay. Now, let's talk about something that Jordan really talks about. Did you, first of all, pause?
01:03:43
Jordan
No. The answer is no.
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That is so sad. Okay.
01:03:46
Jordan
but but and No, no, no.
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So,
01:03:48
Jordan
It's not my fault. It's not my fault. I tried, but this round of games was on TNT, and I don't have cable.
01:03:56
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I have cable.
01:03:58
Jordan
I'd be forgetting about that.
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Oh my God. Okay.
01:04:01
Jordan
I'm telling you, there are multiple times that I've tried it, and I could not watch it.
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Anyway. ah and the game, there were, there were, it was half on TNT and half on ESPN. So
01:04:08
Jordan
Well, I don't know what was happening, because every time I wanted to watch it was on TNT.
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the Eastern conference finals was on TNT.
01:04:12
Jordan
So that is partially my fault.
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The Western was on ESPN.
01:04:16
Jordan
oh
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They split it up, which I think is dumb as hell, but doesn't matter because next year there won't be any NBA on TNT anyways.
01:04:21
Jordan
Come out every time I look I saw I was just on the wrong days I guess because every time I looked i was like oh I'm a watch tonight and it was TNT lesson so
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I would just like for the audience to know that I texted Jordan every single time a game was on and he was always doing something else.
01:04:37
Jordan
Yeah Yeah, well, yeah, mm-hmm
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He was at dinner, he was at tap class, he was making a cake, he was walking his turtle, he was always doing something else.
01:04:45
Jordan
ah yeah I'm sorry. i have a life and a wife. I'm sorry. What can I say? What can I say?
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Anyway.
01:04:51
Jordan
It was also like for part of it was my wife's birthday and she needed a whole week to celebrate. Like I didn't have the time, right?
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Ashley should.
01:04:57
Jordan
Yeah, you know, I had things going on.
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As she should. He missed the whole series. this
01:05:00
Jordan
I did. I did. I did. I'm like, no, for real, I did miss all the serious stuff.
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it's
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You missed the entire OKC, the wolf series.
01:05:07
Jordan
Yeah, because because we celebrate her birthday from Saturday to Saturday, and that was the whole series, because it was over in five.
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That was a whole series because
01:05:13
Jordan
Like, yeah.
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but The Thunder wrapped that shit up real quick. Anyway, sorry.
01:05:15
Jordan
they got...
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So obviously we're talking about the NBA playoffs. Excuse me, the NBA finals. Hey, because it starts on Thursday, which is really exciting for me because that is my favorite time of the year for the NBA because I'm not watching all 82 games like this.
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um and I don't suggest you all do that. But anyway, we officially have our Eastern Conference final. What the hell am I saying? We officially have our Eastern Conference winners and our Western Conference winners.
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And it's the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Indiana Pacers. The first time that two small market teams have played each other the finals in a really, really long time. I don't even know what the you how long it's been, but it's been a while since it has been a larger market team in the finals.
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Also, SGA is poised to be the first MVP to win a championship in the same year he won MVP since 2012, Stephen stepefhan curry period and both of these teams, of course, of of course, are now poised to win the first championship of the franchise.
01:06:04
Jordan
are
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Now, the Oklahoma City Thunder is a little different because they used to be the Seattle Supersonics. So the Supersonics have a championship, but OKC as OKC does not. And then the Pacers have never won. This is the first time to the finals in 25 years.
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It is the OKC's first time to the finals in 13 years. So. sir We're poised for some fun basketball just in general because who wants to watch the Celtics every fucking year?
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Like no teacher Celtics, but no what I'm tired of y'all. Love y'all, but I'm tired of y'all.
01:06:33
Jordan
No, I don't enjoy watching the subjects at all. So...
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I don't really, yeah, I'm a fan of Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown. Like I like the players, but the vibes are not always there. Sorry. So. I really was sitting and I've been ruminating on this because I had a feeling was probably going to be OKC Pacers.
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I think we've talked about that a little bit. I just thought both the Western and the Eastern conferences were on the finals are going to be a little bit more competitive. Like once both teams went down 3-1, I was like, Well, now we're just watching arbitrary games.
01:07:03
Jordan
self
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Like, now we're just, I think everybody kind knew it was going be OKC pages, but I genuinely have no idea out of the two of them.
01:07:04
Jordan
All I can tell you is that someone has to win the game.
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Like, they're probably, they're one of the most evenly matched matchups I've seen in a while. Like, I really don't know. Like,
01:07:20
Jordan
all i can tell you is that someone has to win the game
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So someone's going to win. I, as I said before, and I'm, I'm standing in it, as I said on the last episode, OKC is not going to win because they are too young. They don't have the battle scars, the champion battle scars yet um And I do think there's a potential that they could run out of gas.
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um But also maybe not because they're the second youngest team in the NBA. So maybe not. I don't know. I don't know. But there's a little bit more championship DNA in the Pacers. Like Pascal Siakam just won Eastern Conference Finals MVP. He had multiple 30-point games during that series. He's playing some of the best basketball that he's played in his life.
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We also have Tyrese Halliburton, who basically has the best pass-to-turnover ratio in the entire NBA. I mean, the boy... knows how to take care of the ball. He's also a dynamic scorer. They can score in bunches, both teams. They're both great at three-point shooting. Like, I really don't know.
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so it's to be fun.
01:08:15
Jordan
Yeah.
01:08:19
Jordan
I can't, as as I just admitted, I did not watch a lot of basketball. so what can I really say about this? on
01:08:26
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Not what can I really say about this.
01:08:27
Jordan
I mean, I have a lot of opinions, but I'm not going to sit here and like pretend that like I can do the whole like basketball breakdown like I do with football and things like that. um i think that The point that I'm going to take is, first of all, i don't care who wins.
01:08:41
Jordan
I think this is great for SGA.
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Yeah.
01:08:43
Jordan
I think it's great for Tyrese Halliburton, who people hate on for whatever reason.
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Yeah. Random.
01:08:49
Jordan
They act like he's Jason Tatum.
01:08:52
Jordan
And I say that because I think there's actual reasons to hate on Jason Taylor and that boy, that boy, low, some, some, some, you know, when you, when you go on Tik TOK and you see a video of every time his accomplishment, he says word for word, what someone else said in his, in their accomplishment. And half time is Kobe. It gets to be a little bit weird.
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is It is it's he loves Kobe.
01:09:12
Jordan
It's like, are you scripting it? But it's not even just Kobe, though.
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He loves Kobe.
01:09:15
Jordan
That's the thing. If it was only Kobe, it's like, okay, Kobe passed. There's a lot of Kobe there's a lot of color people in the league, right? But it wasn't just Kobe. There was 10 of them.
01:09:26
Jordan
He was ripping from everybody. It's like, okay, what are your emotions about this? Why are you stealing everybody else's script and picture?
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01:09:32
Jordan
That's whatever. Great for Tyree Halliburton.
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Yeah.
01:09:35
Jordan
It's great for Miles Turner for whatever reason.
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Oh,
01:09:37
Jordan
I just think like Miles Turner, like literally, I think he's funny. And i think he had a quote where he's like, I've been on the trade block like every trade season like eight years. got mom happy
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why yeah I love Ludwig.
01:09:48
Jordan
I'm happy that he's going have some success. i mean, we already talked about SGA. I don't have any like real opinions on Chet Holmgren, but like he was a player who came in with like a lot of hype and he is good, but then he got sort of, he sort of got overshadowed in that like unicorn thing like Wimby and some other players, but he he was still sort of in that mode and um If you like Luau Dort, which I don't really, I i't know some people do, I don't like, but it's just, I think there's just a lot of plays that you can root for in this.
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01:10:17
Jordan
And then also you can root for the franchises because of the struggle, fact that they've never won them and various things like that. I think on the the the on the backs of being a Colts fan, I'm going to root for the Pacers, um especially because of how instrumental Jim Irsay was with the Pacers and all of Indianapolis.
01:10:35
Jordan
and I don't have any relation to Oklahoma City, but this is not a basketball pain.
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Mm-hmm.
01:10:40
Jordan
I just think this is good, and I think that this is something that a lot us and a lot of other people have talked about. right like I think this is interesting because the last couple years, but especially this one, it's fun.
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Oh God, we have to have a storyline that's not about the vets.
01:10:54
Jordan
teams and there are other players. ah these like These small market teams exist, right? like these And I think, and I'm not the person to do this, but I wonder if someone in the media is going to have the conversation about how the new salary cap, how the super max, and how the new tax ceiling, whereas if you go over a certain threshold, like you have to pay four lux some of that bought into this because they were really like we need to end this super team era and then a couple years after instituting these things you get these teams where it's like let's be honest like five ten years ago because he's not on his rookie contract anymore I don't think would SGA still be there five ten years ago would Tyrese Halliburton be on the Pacers right like uh or or even some of the other people so I think that
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The luxury text. Mm-hmm.
01:11:50
Jordan
Hopefully someone sort of writes this as we've seen the last three years where we had the Mavericks, we have the Pacers, we have the Thunder, we had Minnesota in the conference finals twice.
01:12:02
Jordan
Denver has won a couple of rings.
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Denver.
01:12:04
Jordan
Like you're not just getting the Celtics and the Lakers and the, you know, and like, right, you had these super teams that failed.
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Yeah.
01:12:11
Jordan
The Nets never won anything, right? the The Clippers never won anything. We just saw what happened. to the phoenix suns like the super team is sort of dying and you're getting more of sort of the small markets, the homegrown teams and like actually making teams that make sense and not just getting stars.
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The committees. Yeah.
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Jordan
So I think that that is also a sort of interesting thing that I hope comes out.
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There was an article, or at least it's being talked about that this is the first time that the finals has been with two teams that haven't paid the luxury tax since the luxury luxury tax was implemented. um So that was something that was interesting. So i do think that they are starting to draw relations between those things that you mentioned, because they also had put like, the OKC has paid $0 in luxury taxes, whereas like the Warriors, the year they won the championship paid like over 700 million.
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so i
01:13:02
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you
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that is a very interesting concept i will also look into that but yeah i think this is great for the and nba brand because realistically i think everybody was getting very very tired um of the nba there's already been enough there's always been complaints of not having of having too many games of course one of the things that dominated the news cycle for this year especially was nba viewership and how it was declining and all these other things because it it was feeling a little stale like it's stale and And the thing is, we are always going to promote LeBron.
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freedom
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That is just what we're going to do. And I don't think the NBA should ever stop doing that, right? He's LeBron. But it was also getting to a point where it's like, Y'all are promoting the same five to eight players.
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And you're also promoting the same four franchises. That's not cool. There's over 30 teams in the NBA. And it doesn't mean that they all deserve the same amount of coverage, but OKC is having like a historically good season. They won over 60 games for the first time in don't even know how long. Like,
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Even even um Cleveland, it sucks the way that their season ended, but Cleveland was having one of the best seasons that they had had.
01:14:00
Jordan
Yeah.
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And it was just not being broadcasted, it not being promoted, it was not being spoken about the same way. They just kept shoving LeBron versus Steph down our throats. Which is also great. Like, who knows how many more times we're going to see them play each other. You know what i mean? So like, that's also great. But it's also like these, these young stars on these teams also deserve to have just as much fun because they're literally changing the history of their franchises.
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So I'm very, very excited to see I'm a sports nerd. that' why to do the show One of my favorite things about the NBA finals is the production of it all and the the way that they put the stories together and how they, you know, draw, you know, comparisons and lines between the teams and all those things and show the history and more background about the players and stuff like that. And it'll be fun to,
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get it with people who've never won before. Cause now we don't have to, that's something that they don't have. What's word I'm looking for? Where you like, um, not a handicap. Um,
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um security blanket, like a, um they don't have the security blanket of like just showing us highlights from last year's finals because they were there before.
01:15:03
Jordan
Yeah. Yeah.
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It's like we get brand new, fresh storyline.
01:15:09
Jordan
yeah
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So I'm really excited. I hope it builds a new, like little rivalry, you know, like I'm hoping that it kind of, you know, it's going to make Indiana Pacers and OKC games more important next season, you know, stuff like that. So I'm excited. I can't wait to watch it.
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um Also, If you are a Hoops purist, this is going to be some of the best Hoops you will see. And I couldn't say that about the finals last year.
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This year is going to be some good Hoops. Like, like most of those games are going to be over 100, the scoring. Like, it's going to
01:15:50
Jordan
Yeah, for sure. Do you have a winner?
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be fun.
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Jordan
I
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The finals? have to pick one?
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mean, you don't have to, but...
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o Okay. I'm standing on what I said about OKC, so I do think the Pacers are going to win it. I do have i do also think there's potential for this to go to seven. Probably the highest potential for a finals series to go to seven in a while.
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um But if it doesn't go to seven, it'll at least go to six. um Yeah, I'm going to stick with the Pacers for now. And you know why? I'm sticking with the Pacers because the Pacers have more championship blood in them than OKC.
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They have Pascal Siakam, who won the championship with the Raptors and Kawhi, and they also have Rick Carlisle, who coached us, obviously, the debt the Dallas Mavericks for a championship in 2011. thousand eleven So I'm to go with the Pacers.
01:16:43
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Fair enough.
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but actually Oh, you already said you're ready for them because of it.
01:16:46
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Yeah, I'm going to i'm gonna go with the Pacers, do something with the especially because the Colts are going to go 2-15 and give us a new franchise quarterback next year.
01:16:56
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that is That's going to happen, but you know i'm I'm just speaking it into existence.
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not too Not 215.
01:17:00
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So Indianapolis needs something positive.
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I haven't even thought about the cowboys.
01:17:03
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ah
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I haven't even thought about them.
01:17:04
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Yeah.
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i have The only cowboy I think about is Stefan Diggs, and it's only because he's dating Cardi
01:17:09
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okay is
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I have not.
01:17:11
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He's not a cowboy.
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the trouble
01:17:11
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That's his brother.
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He's not. Oh, shit. See, I just let you know that I'm to be bad image of a child.
01:17:17
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Yeah.
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They're going to go out on the field and they're going to have cleats and pads on and they're gonna they're going to play football.
01:17:22
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theyre They're gonna don't do something.
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That's all I know. ah da Well, Dak just had his second baby. I did see that. So, you know, congratulations to him. But
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how's your Achilles? Like, I just i don't know.
01:17:33
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easy
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I just am.
01:17:34
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Not how's your Achilles.
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I just, like, I don't care.
01:17:36
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Oh. so see
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by Like, respectfully, like, just don't care about the Cowboys. When they're on, turn it on and we go see what happens.
01:17:48
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Fair
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enough. All right, so that's the back of the show with our two minute warning. i will let you go first.
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Oh yes, yes, yes, yes. I just think it's so stinking cute that Candace Parker has retired. She's been retired for a year now. And so not one but two franchises will be retiring her jersey. The Los Angeles Sparks will be retiring her jersey. And then the Chicago Sky will also be retiring her jersey.
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I wouldn't be shocked if the Aces eventually say, okay, we're going to do it too. um Maybe not cause she only was on the Aces for a year, so that's like very like, oh, maybe. But for sure, the Sparks and the Chicago Sky are going to do it within the next coming weeks.
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And I'm very, very excited about that. There was actually enough Twitter outrage for the WNBA to make sure that both of these games were nationally broadcast because... At first, the Sparks game was not one of the national broadcasted games, but they were going to retire the jersey at that game.
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So it's like, can you please stop working against yourself? Thank you. But anyway, just wanted to highlight that because Candice Parker is the GOAT, and I'm absolutely obsessed. And I love that she's getting in the respect that she deserves because she actually, much like Tyrese Halliburton, was voted the most overrated player by her peers.
01:19:00
Jordan
Hmm.
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which is crazy because she's getting her jersey retired in multiple places. So she has many rings and many medals and many trophies. And what you hoes have? But anyway, anyway, that's not the thing. Also, Candace Parker, just to like do a little promotion, she has a show on the Bleacher Report called The Trophy Room.
01:19:17
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It's really, really cute. It's a show where she brings athletes on that have at least one of the same trophies or awards that she has. So MVP, league MVPs, champions, gold medalists, things like that.
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I think her most recent one was with Jordan Childs. um And then she also has another show on be Bleacher Report where she breaks down film with collegiate athletes. So she did an episode with Olivia Miles, which is really cool. And that's when you kind of really get to see her her basketball mind. So if you're like interested in listening her talk about but talk ball for real, that's a good show to watch. But yeah, shout out to Candice.
01:19:50
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for sure two very quick two-minute warnings. The first one is just because of what's happening literally right now. Texas Tech may have bought themselves a national championship in softball.
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A championship?
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um
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Oh yeah.
01:20:08
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Like I'm literally
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That's why said step your cookies up, get your collectives, get your money right if you want to win college football. Like I can't.
01:20:13
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yeah like i'm I'm literally like watching it right now, and Texas Tech is up two on Oklahoma.
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Gold.
01:20:20
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If you don't know anything about Oklahoma, Oklahoma is the Alabama football and softball.
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They're the best. Yeah.
01:20:26
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They're up two zero, but not only are they up two zero, that the best pitcher in baseball is pitching for them. And so we don't know if Oklahoma's going to score. Like, this game could end 2-0. Like, Oklahoma may not score. Like, this girl, her name is Nazaree Kennedy.
01:20:46
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She's literally softball's first $1 million dollar player. She got paid $1 million dollars by the Texas Tech Booster, who was also supposedly going to be the one of the co-leads of the college football little presidential commission. That's not happening.
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Oh, thank God.
01:21:01
Jordan
you She is a stud. She is a star. They literally got her, and now they are a win, maybe two wins to having... I'm not sure.
01:21:13
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But either way, they are... beating currently the best team in softball for a chance to go to the national championship and play against Texas.
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Yep.
01:21:23
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That also means for you Texans out there, there is a chance that we get a Texas Tech softball national championship, which is going to be interesting as well. And then my real two-minute warning, because I did change it, my real two-minute warning is I just think Noah Lyles is hilarious because like, you know what? I understand you have to talk your talk and you have to make, you have to make a name for your sport.
01:21:48
Jordan
But I just think he's so funny when he's like, I should have a shoe. And then he mentioned like a sport that is like significantly more popular than track and field. And also like, like a season, like he was like, I should have a shoe over Anthony Edwards.
01:22:02
Jordan
And like,
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um
01:22:04
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you you can i You can say, and I would agree, that there are multiple women athletes who should have had a shoot before Anthony Edwards. But I'm sorry, this is partially track's fault.
01:22:15
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We don't think about track except every four years. Like, like we don't even watch the world championships.
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Yeah, we don't care.
01:22:21
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There is none.
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I'm sorry.
01:22:22
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There is not a track league. Like, they're trying to create one, but there's not a track league because of the ins and outs of track athletes. Like, I'm sorry. It's just not the same. Like, I get it. Like, you're going to call the world championship thing, and you're going to say, like, you only play in the United States, and I race against everyone and whatever.
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Not even close.
01:22:39
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And it's like, cool. I hear you. And I'm also, like, I love the brashness and the loudness of it, and I love the competitiveness in that, like, he's trying to put his sport on his back.
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And the competitiveness. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
01:22:49
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Like, I have not a single negative thing to say Like I like I am not one of those people that think he should like shut up and run like that's not it at all. I find it hilarious.
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That's crazy. Yeah. yeah
01:22:58
Jordan
I love that for him. But also there is a level of delusion that thinks that you a track athlete should have a shoe over a basketball player. And what you really should do is you should be leading the charge to make track have a consistent relationship.
01:23:14
Jordan
marketableable seizing where we can follow track athletes because let's be honest if you don't start running track and are good at track before the age of 22 you may only get one olympics so can't even follow you like you're not even like shakari missed an olympics for bullshit and we weren't sure that she was going to get another one and like thankfully like she had the marketing and the power because women are marketable that she did not fall out
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We don't even yeah.
01:23:40
Jordan
But, like, if Noah Lyles would have had the same thing, we wouldn't have known his name going to the next Olympics. So it's just, like, it's just a hard sport. And I respect the hustle. and'm expect But also, like, you got to a little more serious.
01:23:51
Jordan
We see Anthony Edwards every day. We see LeBron every day.
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Everywhere.
01:23:54
Jordan
We see Candace Parker. We see Aza. We see these players. We don't see track athletes. I'm sorry. Like, we just don't.
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Shekari is the only one that we see often. She's the only one. So that's why I'm just like, ah respectfully, no. No.
01:24:09
Jordan
So. so
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Respectfully, no. i owe To say you need a shoe before literally one of the faces of the NBA is, that's,
01:24:20
Jordan
I'm sorry. It's just like, I hear what you're saying, my boy.
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listen, Linda. why
01:24:24
Jordan
i respect the hustle, but like you you do probably need to be, yeah.
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Yeah. And I respect the confidence. Like, love that for you.
01:24:28
Jordan
like And that's the thing. like I don't have a negative thing to say about him. I love it. And and hopefully the Sha'Carri's and his brashness and the and the sydney Sidney McLaughlin's and like those people do lead to a revolutionary track, right?
01:24:43
Jordan
Serena Williams' husband, who I don't know his name and I will be calling him. Actually, I do know his name.
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Serena Williams is his husband.
01:24:47
Jordan
It's Alex, Alexis O'Han, but it's Serena Williams' husband.
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Alexei something. Yeah. Yeah.
01:24:51
Jordan
he created a track thing right after the Olympics and he was paying big money and like that was big in New York and was cool. So maybe that will change as well. But like track is just not that sport. And a part of it is because of the athletes, like legitimately a part of it is because of the athletes and because of the fact that like you do want that freedom that you get with Olympic sports to go and get your sponsors to run when you want to, to swim when we want you want to, to do these things that you don't want to be confined by a league where you have to do 20 track meets in 20 weeks or whatever like it's just not the same and therefore it's not as marketable and unfortunately your sport is very volatile like some of the best track track athletes ever if you stub your big toe at the wrong time you're not making the olympics and it's unfortunate because you could be the best ever like it's just it's just one thing happening you just don't get there and so it's just like i'll be for real
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Whatever. Yeah.
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Yeah. What are we talking about? but what Love you, but no.
01:25:46
Jordan
But, you know, shout out No Lives.
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No.
01:25:48
Jordan
Shout out No Lives. I hope he actually gets Tyree Kill to race him because they've been talking about this for two years.
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Tyreek Hill needs to stop everything.
01:25:53
Jordan
good
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And I do mean everything, sometimes breathing, but I'm not going go there right now, but I'm just saying, stop putting your hands on women.
01:25:56
Jordan
Yeah.
01:25:59
Jordan
Well, as always, thank you for listening. First of all, first and foremost, most importantly, ah
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like Just stop, literally stop.
01:26:09
Jordan
yeah
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And actually, I mean that in both senses, sexually and like domestically violently. Stop, stop, please.
01:26:17
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And they they
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We've got 42 kids. Okay.
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you heard it here, folks, on the PowerTube podcast where we talk about
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I'm sorry.
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Just stop.
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Like, just stop.
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Actually, act like you've never met him. I'm sorry.
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except on the at defensive page we'll see you next week
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Exactly. Goodbye.