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Power Two Podcast: Ohio State is Best Program of the Quarter-Century
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Happy Memorial Day from GDSN! In this episode, Jordan and DJ break down the top programs of the last 25 years. We also discuss predictions for the NBA Finals, CFB post season changes and UTA adding women's flag football.
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Podcast Branding
00:00:09
Jordan
What's good everybody? Welcome in to another episode of Big Defensive Sports Network's Power 2 Podcast. As always, I'm your host Jordan. I'm here with my co-host DJ.
00:00:19
Get Defensive Sports Network
Hello. i have food stuck in my teeth. Hold on.
00:00:23
Get Defensive Sports Network
Okay,
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Jordan
That's a lovely way to start the podcast.
00:00:26
Get Defensive Sports Network
I do.
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Jordan
It's what you get for snacking before you press start.
00:00:27
Get Defensive Sports Network
i don't know what Well, you know, i was waiting on you.
00:00:32
Jordan
No you weren't.
00:00:33
Get Defensive Sports Network
Anyway.
00:00:36
Get Defensive Sports Network
was going to be a fun episode today.
00:00:36
Jordan
You know, you know, you know What I appreciate, I appreciate you saying get defensive sports network at the beginning of our podcast.
00:00:46
Get Defensive Sports Network
Oh my gosh, it is...
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Jordan
um
00:00:48
Get Defensive Sports Network
such a great ring to it.
00:00:49
Jordan
You know, it sounds good. It sounds, sounds perfect.
00:00:52
Get Defensive Sports Network
Correct.
00:00:54
Jordan
It sounds like we should blow up.
00:00:54
Get Defensive Sports Network
Yes.
00:00:57
Jordan
and you know three, four, 500 listeners an episode. you know like I feel like that's where we're going. And so to get there to get there, we should actually talk about talk, right?
00:01:05
Get Defensive Sports Network
Period.
00:01:08
Jordan
We should talk about the talk. We should talk about the sports. We should talk about the things And not the power of friendship today, but the power of branding and owning your own brand.
00:01:17
Get Defensive Sports Network
Oh.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Period.
00:01:19
Jordan
That's what this episode is about.
MVP Discussion and Player Comparisons
00:01:20
Jordan
So in the news, to get started, SGA wins his first MVP. That is Shea Gilgis Alexander, for those of you who don't know. He is a basketball player for the Oklahoma City Thunder.
00:01:35
Jordan
I think... Well, I mean, first of all, shout to him. Cool. Whatever.
00:01:41
Get Defensive Sports Network
Cool whatever is crazy.
00:01:41
Jordan
I'm so i'm so like fascinated by the Oklahoma City Thunder because they are going to be like the first team.
00:01:46
Get Defensive Sports Network
Mm-hmm.
00:01:50
Jordan
And I could be forgetting someone, I guess.
00:01:55
Jordan
They're going to be one of the first, depending on how you feel about the 76ers, but I'm not counting them. I feel like they're rebuild, rebuild, rebuild, failed. I think the Thunder going to be like the first team that like tore it down for a crap ton of picks and then it worked.
00:02:09
Get Defensive Sports Network
Oh, okay. i was like, i didn't know where you were going with that. Yeah, actually, um honestly, yeah, I think so. Because a lot of teams rebuild based on stars.
00:02:14
Jordan
And it took them a long time.
00:02:18
Get Defensive Sports Network
They they want to go and get the the central, you know, whoever's popular at the time sort of thing. Dame going to the Bucs. Embiid obviously being on the, what's that team that you just mentioned, the 76ers.
00:02:29
Jordan
Sixers.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
um
00:02:30
Jordan
Yeah, but he was drafted there. Like, they were trying to, yeah.
00:02:32
Get Defensive Sports Network
Was he? Okay. I don't care about Embiid specifically, so.
00:02:34
Jordan
but but but But the Sixers count because they went and got, like, Paul George and, like, they they went and got James Harden for a time.
00:02:39
Get Defensive Sports Network
they Yeah, yeah. Exactly.
00:02:41
Jordan
Like, they've made those trades.
00:02:42
Get Defensive Sports Network
They've gone to the stars. A lot of teams rebuild based on stars, right? It's been a while since you've seen a team actually use their picks and use them wisely. And that is why OKC is the second youngest team to be in the postseason and their second behind themselves because they were the youngest last year to be in the postseason. So um shout out to them. Honestly, they are so much fun to watch, too. If you don't watch basketball, OKC to me personally, out of all the 30 whatever teams in the NBA,
00:03:10
Get Defensive Sports Network
is the most entertaining to watch. Cause it's like, they're the type of team that it could really could be anybody's night. Like it could, it's always going to be SGA's night, which is why he's the MVP. And I was going to burn everything down if he did not get the MVP this year, but it also could be Jalen Williams' this night. It also could be Chet Holmgren's night. It also could be Lou Dort's night. It also could be insert, insert, insert.
00:03:28
Get Defensive Sports Network
So yeah.
00:03:30
Jordan
Yeah, so I mean, that's, I thought that was, I mean, like, shout out. That is not like, I knew he was good, of course, but that is not what I expected. Especially like, and this is not a conversation we'll have today, maybe a conversation we could have at another time. Although I don't know if I'm the right person to have it at the level that I watch basketball.
00:03:49
Jordan
But like, if if you would have asked me a couple of years ago, I would have predicted that Anthony Edwards won ah MVP before SGA.
00:03:54
Get Defensive Sports Network
Before him. Yeah.
00:03:55
Jordan
And this is no, again, no shade to SGA. Like, he's been hooping.
00:03:58
Get Defensive Sports Network
Yeah.
00:03:58
Jordan
He's averaged 30 points for the last three seasons. Like, it's not that he wasn't doing nothing. You know what saying? But, like, it just feels like, and maybe it's because the Thunder were losing or whatever.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Yeah.
00:04:06
Jordan
It just kind of feels like for a while his hype had kind of fallen behind Anthony Edwards and John Morant. We all know what John Morant did, so nobody's talking about him anymore unless it's a criminal proceeding.
00:04:15
Get Defensive Sports Network
Oh my gosh. She do anything.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Let me not start.
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Jordan
All
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Jordan
Yeah, he did. What are you talking about? He pointed a gun at a 16-year-old.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
That case got dropped.
00:04:24
Jordan
It doesn't mean he didn't do it. It was on the camera. I saw it with my own eyes. They said he didn't go to jail for it. he It got dropped because he's rich.
00:04:30
Get Defensive Sports Network
He a hood nigga. That happens every day.
00:04:34
Jordan
When you're making millions of dollars.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
could still, you could get out of the hood, but you're never going to remove the hood from you.
00:04:42
Jordan
Yeah, but ah there's so many of
Legal Issues and Parenthood Responsibilities
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Jordan
them who don't wave guns at 16 year olds on camera.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
I understand.
00:04:50
Jordan
so when' you talking about?
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Get Defensive Sports Network
I'm just saying, I'm just saying he's a hood nigga.
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Jordan
To say he didn't do anything is crazy. He's also, no he's no he's not.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
He's a hood nigga.
00:04:56
Jordan
No, he's not. No, he's not. Actually, if we're going to talk about it, no, he's not. he's not. His dad was.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
It's part of his culture. Part of his background.
00:05:05
Jordan
Shut up. Okay, we're not doing this. he is he is He is, you've seen Mile.
00:05:12
Get Defensive Sports Network
Yes. Well, once.
00:05:13
Jordan
He went to Cranbrook. That's a private school.
00:05:16
Get Defensive Sports Network
Right.
00:05:17
Jordan
And John Moran's group with both parents.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Yes.
00:05:19
Jordan
Yeah, and they had a real good marriage. That's John Moran. He is pump faking the hood, first of all.
00:05:26
Get Defensive Sports Network
sorry. I live for Jabberi.
00:05:26
Jordan
Papa die, guys.
00:05:27
Get Defensive Sports Network
I don't care. i live for him. Him and all of his problematicness. Because you know what? His problematicness does not include harming women. So, you know, they're not all perfect.
00:05:37
Jordan
I will give you that one. Like, we're...
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Get Defensive Sports Network
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:05:41
Jordan
and for for
00:05:42
Get Defensive Sports Network
of these players, I mean, like, I don't even see how you can be fans of them. Like like Anthony Edwards, for instance, I'm so sorry. fandom for him... I just can't do it.
00:05:53
Get Defensive Sports Network
I can't be a fan of somebody who's going to pay child support up front like that.
00:05:57
Jordan
Why?
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Get Defensive Sports Network
And this, because that's, we we don't have time to get this conversation.
00:05:58
Jordan
hello on. oh Okay.
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Okay. We, we don't, but for me,
00:06:03
Jordan
I just have a i just have a have a quick thing I have to ask you. And then we will we will talk about this for three days after this. Okay? Because we we can't do it on the show. Okay? is the If you start at the fact that getting pregnant is not easy and we need to stop pretending that it just happens on both sides, right?
00:06:22
Get Defensive Sports Network
Correct. Correct.
00:06:24
Jordan
Okay. Is it not acceptable for a man to not want to be an active father? Like the child support's paid, but but okay.
00:06:31
Get Defensive Sports Network
That is never acceptable to me. That's never acceptable to me.
00:06:35
Jordan
Why?
00:06:36
Get Defensive Sports Network
If there's a child on this planet and that you fathered, you need to father it, period.
00:06:42
Jordan
but
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Get Defensive Sports Network
I don't care. i do not care about your relationship with the mother. I do not care about what you thought about, whatever. There is a human being here that you have a genetic tie to. You are obligated to take care of it. I don't care.
00:06:54
Get Defensive Sports Network
I don't care.
00:06:54
Jordan
So i i feel I feel as though i need to be very mindful of how I say this.
00:06:57
Get Defensive Sports Network
i don't care.
00:07:04
Jordan
Although I've said this to my wife, so it's not a crazy thing because she yell at me if it was.
00:07:07
Get Defensive Sports Network
But like she's your wife.
00:07:08
Jordan
I think, you know, but she but like she's my wife because when I say out-of-pocket things, especially when it comes to women and violence things like that, like, if i was do If I was one of those people, she wouldn't be my wife. like You know mean?
00:07:19
Get Defensive Sports Network
Fair.
00:07:19
Jordan
but But even still, especially on a podcast, there's a baseline of things that I'm not trying to say and I don't want to be misunderstood.
00:07:19
Get Defensive Sports Network
Also fair.
00:07:25
Get Defensive Sports Network
Correct.
00:07:26
Jordan
I don't understand why it is acceptable to have an abortion
00:07:37
Jordan
But if you decide to not have one, the man is, as as long as he's providing financially, don't get me wrong, the man is not allowed to decide to not be an active father.
00:07:50
Jordan
Fighting against paying child support, no. Saying, i didn't want this kid, so here's all of the money to take care of the kid, I don't see the issue with that. Like, I never agree with, like,
00:08:01
Get Defensive Sports Network
I, yeah.
00:08:04
Jordan
not paying child support, but like there's no, in this, and there's no choice and for the man and whatever.
00:08:05
Get Defensive Sports Network
yeah
00:08:10
Jordan
This is not sympathy for men. That is not what I'm saying. I don't understand. Well, as long as you pay the child support, because everyone should pay it because you did lay there and you did get her pregnant. Why you cannot choose to not be active as long as you are providing financially.
00:08:26
Jordan
And that is my thing. He had the money. i don't see the issue with him paying up front.
00:08:31
Get Defensive Sports Network
I feel like when the child is here, there's no choices anymore. Like, I understand that at end of the day, when it comes to child hearing, okay, it's never really going to be fair.
00:08:43
Get Defensive Sports Network
Okay. Because he didn't have to grow a child for nine months. She did. so
00:08:48
Jordan
And I'm not looking for fair, by the way. Like, come on.
00:08:50
Get Defensive Sports Network
Right. That's what I'm like.
00:08:51
Jordan
But yeah.
00:08:52
Get Defensive Sports Network
But the point that you're presenting is coming almost from a place of fairness.
00:08:55
Jordan
a
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Get Defensive Sports Network
Like, well, if a woman gets to have an abortion and she can pick and choose when she gets to be mom, why can't a man?
00:08:58
Jordan
cool
00:09:01
Get Defensive Sports Network
Well, I can't really fully... fully
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Jordan
support
00:09:05
Get Defensive Sports Network
Answer that because there's there's just a level of unfairness in all of this. Like, that's just, that is just how that goes. Like, there's, once she decided to have the child, and yes, it was it was made clear to her that he did not want to be a father. It was made clear to her that he wanted her to have an abortion and all these things.
00:09:18
Get Defensive Sports Network
She made the choices that she made because she's well within her right to do that. And she had expectations on her, just that lady had expectations of child support. So i want to be very clear. I think the situation worked out for the two of them the way that it was supposed to.
00:09:31
Get Defensive Sports Network
I personally live my life in a way where I feel like there should just be a base level of morality. And when there is a child that is here on this planet, regardless of how you felt about it before, you should feel inclined to take care of that child because it's your child.
00:09:49
Get Defensive Sports Network
Like, that's where I'm at. It's a morality thing. It's I get that. OK, he paid the child support, so that should be enough and all the other stuff. And I think for that lady, it probably is enough. Realistically, Given her history, him playing child support, no shade to her, but him playing child support probably was enough.
00:10:04
Get Defensive Sports Network
I just am looking at the morality of the situation. Like that child is not going to have a father or she's not going to have her father in her life. Because in my opinion, I think he's making a very immature decision at this point in his life. I don't think if he was older and a little bit more like seasoned in his life, he would make that type of decision.
00:10:20
Get Defensive Sports Network
Personally, it's a very 23 year old choice to make.
00:10:23
Jordan
And that may be true. Right. i For me, I also kind of view it in the lens of like, and this is a conversation that this will be the last thing I say on this, regardless of how you respond to this.
00:10:34
Jordan
Always think about the fact that like, is it better to have two parents and one of them be bad and not interested or to just have one. Because my thing is like, I feel like what you're saying, with especially with the morality piece, it also comes with the expectation that that person's going to be a good father.
00:10:52
Jordan
Like they're going be like, this is my kid. I'm going to step up and be a good father. But I think that there's so much damage done with bad parents.
00:10:56
Get Defensive Sports Network
Yeah.
00:11:00
Jordan
I'm even going to say fathers, but it's in particular bad fathers, but bad parents, there's also damage done with like the thought process of, like I'm going to stay in this marriage for the kids when the parents hate each other.
00:11:03
Get Defensive Sports Network
Yeah. No, yeah, you're right.
00:11:10
Get Defensive Sports Network
Yeah.
00:11:11
Jordan
And there's so much like trauma and things that go to that. like I think there's a lot of kind of things that happen with kids where they feel like, I have to be a parent. I have to stay in this bad relationship. i have to do these things and it's best for the kid.
00:11:22
Jordan
And sometimes it's not. And so I think in this case, if he's not going to be a good father, It is better that he give the money and not be around than for him to be around only when forced and to then break that kid's heart with, oh, I'm going to pick you up and I'm not gonna pick you up. I'm going to be here and I'm not going to be here. I'm missing your fifth birthday party because I'm out clubbing or I'm doing this or I'm doing that.
00:11:46
Jordan
For me, it's like if you're not going be an active father and you have the money, pay it. and then get that child's life. Because that child can find, like that that woman can find a step, like can marry, right? Maybe it's an uncle, maybe it's a cousin. Like you can get a male influence who actually is there and loves the child and things like that.
00:12:05
Jordan
So for me, if the child is taken care of financially, i don't see that, I would prefer that than a bad father that's around because they have to be.
00:12:15
Get Defensive Sports Network
I respect that. I respect that thought process of, you know, if he's not going to be a good dad, then don't.
00:12:19
Jordan
And
00:12:21
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I do respect that. I just feel like.
00:12:22
Jordan
And with that, I also... But I'm also similar with women. like Everyone's like, because you have to... like if If you're not going to be a good mom, leave then leave the child leave the child with the dad.
00:12:30
Get Defensive Sports Network
No, yeah, I agree. No, you should be a good parent if you're going to be a parent.
00:12:33
Jordan
Right.
00:12:33
Get Defensive Sports Network
Yes, I agree.
00:12:33
Jordan
like Leave the child with the dad and go do... like i'm not I also don't... Just because don't want to get this mixed up.
00:12:37
Get Defensive Sports Network
No, yeah, to be clear, he you feel that for both parents.
00:12:39
Jordan
Yeah.
00:12:40
Get Defensive Sports Network
Yeah, agree.
00:12:40
Jordan
Because I don't feel like the dad is the only one can walk out. Nobody should walk out the kid's life. But if the mom's a bad mom, then the dad should be a single dad. And like all men who get a woman pregnant, you should be willing...
00:12:51
Jordan
to be like, if i have to be a single dad, i will be because you're not a good, but anyways.
00:12:55
Get Defensive Sports Network
And that's all I'm saying is at this point, because with him, he had three children in one year. If you don't want to be a dad, figure out what you need to do from the beginning, my guy.
00:13:08
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if you don't want to be a dad, figure out what you need to do.
00:13:08
Jordan
Which is,
00:13:10
Get Defensive Sports Network
you need You need to be wrapping it up. You need to be having sex with partners consistently that are on birth control. Whatever the case is, if you truly do not want to be a father, because having three children in one year to me is a systematic error on his part.
00:13:23
Jordan
I do agree with that.
00:13:23
Get Defensive Sports Network
of not taking care of what he needs to take care of from the beginning. You can't assume that just because you have money or just because you asked a woman to get an abortion that she has to make that choice. She doesn't have to make that choice for you just because you're going to pay it or just because you're going to whatever. That lady was 38, the woman who got who he got pregnant. She's 38.
00:13:40
Get Defensive Sports Network
I'm not making a decision, which is crazy, I know, but I'm not making a decision to get, I'm not making a decision at 38 to get an abortion maybe as quick as I would if I was 23 or 25.
00:13:41
Jordan
That's disgusting.
00:13:48
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that's
00:13:50
Get Defensive Sports Network
so that's all You should not. But that's, again, that's why i'm like, the situation worked out, I think, the way it was supposed to for those two.
00:13:50
Jordan
Yeah, but you shouldn't be sleeping with a 23-year-old at 38 either.
00:13:53
Jordan
This whole situation is gross. This is gross on everybody's part. What are you 38-year-old with 23-year-old?
00:13:58
Get Defensive Sports Network
Like, i know, I know.
00:13:59
Jordan
Yes. Especially... Mm-hmm. oh
00:14:01
Get Defensive Sports Network
But what I'm getting at is just because you are you are asking a woman to do that or you're offering to pay for it or whatever, she's not obligated. to do that.
00:14:09
Jordan
yes
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So you don't need to even be getting yourself into those sorts of situations. You know who you are. You're Anthony Edwards.
00:14:14
Jordan
expressly
00:14:15
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You know that there are going to be women who are going to be predatory in certain ways and want to have your baby for certain things, which I do think is what's happening in this particular situation. i want to be very clear. I do not think this woman is innocent.
00:14:25
Get Defensive Sports Network
And this at all, I just don't respect somebody who can really dead ass say that there's a child on this planet and I don't want to be a parent to it.
00:14:26
Jordan
and then.
00:14:35
Get Defensive Sports Network
And I'm saying that about anybody, women, men, trans people, whoever in in between, if there's a child walking around on this planet and you are not taking care of it and that is your child, I am judging you.
00:14:45
Get Defensive Sports Network
I don't care. I'm listening and I'm judging. I don't care.
00:14:48
Jordan
I think that's a fair point. I agree.
00:14:50
Get Defensive Sports Network
Yeah.
00:14:51
Jordan
Because I do not respect his decision. I just think he has the right to make it.
00:14:54
Get Defensive Sports Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:56
Jordan
But I will never, ever, ever feel bad for a man that is old enough to make the decision and also old enough to get snipped and then doesn't.
00:15:10
Get Defensive Sports Network
Vasectomies are reversible. Like if you don't want to have babies, go snip it up, have fun.
00:15:12
Jordan
That gets snipped.
00:15:15
Get Defensive Sports Network
And then when you are at a point in your life to have a child, then you can go get a vasectomies are reversible. I don't know how many young men are aware of that. I don't know if they know. I don't know if, don't know what y'all are taught about it, but vasectomies is not just for old dudes who don't want to have babies anymore.
00:15:30
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You can have a vasectomy and get it reversed.
00:15:33
Jordan
Honestly, and um this may... Okay, so this is either happening now or... no no, no, sorry. This is in a trial phase. This is not happening now.
00:15:44
Jordan
they're They're very close to, like, a male birth control, which is, like, with his...
00:15:47
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Male birth control. Exactly.
00:15:48
Jordan
um which with Which is a essentially, it's, like, a like a shot that dissolves in a year.
00:15:54
Get Defensive Sports Network
Injectable.
00:15:56
Jordan
So you don't even have to do anything. it's like but But that's not that's not out yet. That's still in trial phase.
00:16:00
Get Defensive Sports Network
Well, of course not. It's going to be trials and stuff.
00:16:02
Jordan
But the vasectomy is reversible.
00:16:03
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Yeah.
00:16:06
Jordan
And there's a lot of men who say they don't want kids. And then there's a lot of men who do a whole lot of stupid things. And so it's just like, hey, dog, if you want kids, get that snip.
00:16:15
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And we live in a patriarchal society that puts the burden of birth control on women.
00:16:15
Jordan
just it's
00:16:18
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And that's the part that is unfair and ridiculous because at the end of the day, I can only have one child at a time, whereas a man could have multiple. I think we have plenty examples of that.
00:16:26
Jordan
Yeah.
00:16:28
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So to me, it's like to put the burden of birth control only on women and put the burden of the choice of parenthood only on women. But men could just be willy nilly on whatever they want to do. That to me is just... it's just jack you're too He's young.
00:16:42
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And that's the part that's unfortunate. is that I don't think he's even thinking about the repercussions of all of this once the child gets older, once he gets older. like I'm ah i am a child support kid, okay? And i don't want to get too deep into it, but... like I knew I was a child support kid and I knew that I was a financial obligation for the parent that played child support.
00:17:02
Get Defensive Sports Network
And that is not a fun feeling. And I don't know how I would feel as if, if I grew up and found out that my father decided to just pay the child support upfront instead of being a dad to me, like the, what that child is going to have to like go through to like understand that.
00:17:19
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Like, I hate that for her. I really, really do.
00:17:22
Jordan
Yes.
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00:17:23
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and that's And that's all I'm going to say. So anyways, anyways back to the back to the athletics of the situation.
00:17:27
Jordan
and
00:17:27
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I did not think AE was going to get an MVP before SGA because I've been on the SGA MVP train for about two or three years now. But to your point, I could see how like you would expect AE to get it first.
00:17:41
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I don't know. I feel like AE is probably not going to get an MVP for real until he wins championship.
00:17:48
Jordan
Why?
00:17:49
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I don't know. I feel like he's not getting evaluated in the same way as the other MVP candidates are. But I also don't feel like...
00:17:58
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Like, he's scoring at high volumes, and he's making and he's making a difference on his team. but he's And he's dominant, but it's almost like it's still not at the level of SGA, of Nikola Jokic, of who was the other candidate, Giannis.
00:18:13
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Like, it's still not at that level.
00:18:15
Jordan
Right, right. It may not be there yet, but I guess...
00:18:17
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Yeah.
00:18:18
Jordan
And again, part of this is my ignorance because don't watch basketball all the time. big part And part of it's my ignorance and part of it's the media. I didn't realize that SGA was sustaining that level.
00:18:28
Jordan
Because, like, nobody wins at their first year, right?
00:18:29
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Yeah.
00:18:32
Jordan
Like, Anthony Edwards' MVP is probably in two more years. Just like SGA has been averaging 30 for three years and now he got it.
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Yeah.
00:18:38
Jordan
So, like...
00:18:39
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Yeah.
00:18:39
Jordan
But I just... I guess I just didn't expect him, like... it to be this year. And if we're talking about next year, like, AE could win one next year.
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yeah
00:18:47
Jordan
we're talking about two years, AE could win one in two years. So, like, I didn't expect that it was going to be this year. But, I mean, happy for SGA, happy for Oklahoma City, the small market team, the team with the rebuild.
00:18:53
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yeah
00:18:59
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and And, you know, I don't care about them, really. But, like, I think it's cool for the fans to, like, have to watch your team, like, trade everybody for picks and just pick and pick and be bad and be bad.
00:19:03
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Oh my God, so cool.
00:19:12
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And then you you did it off the back of your homerow superstars like
00:19:16
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Yeah, it's pretty iconic. And I think they're going together for a little while from what I understand. And I think the only one who's coming up in a contract year, I do believe is SGA, if I'm not mistaken. um And he'll be eligible for the highest salary in and NBA history. His super max would be around three 80, I believe three 50, three 80, something like that for five years. So, um and he probably will, and they probably will go ahead and shell out that cash because they have it.
00:19:40
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So You know, that's what I'm saying. I'm like they're going shell out the cash because they have it.
00:19:40
Jordan
I mean, who they paying?
00:19:45
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but Yeah, yeah.
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But shout out to all the small market teams. I know we're jumping a little bit, but since we're already talking about basketball, shout out to all the smart small market teams, Minnesota, Indiana, OKC still hanging in there. I'm not New York is not a small market.
00:19:56
Jordan
um No.
00:19:57
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Sorry, but like love that for New York because they haven't been at this point in a long time.
00:20:01
Jordan
Right.
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um So shout out. I love that we are experiencing a point in the NBA postseason where none of the teams have won a championship realistically in most of our lifetimes.
00:20:13
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So yeah,
00:20:13
Jordan
Except Denver. Oh wait, Denver's not here. I'm tripping.
00:20:15
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there was yeah so okc technically is the only team that has a championship but they have it as a seattle supersonics they do not have one as o okc so and then indiana doesn't have one new york doesn't have one and minnesota does not have one so yeah yeah
00:20:15
Jordan
They just, yeah. No, but yeah, and I...
00:20:22
Jordan
Yeah.
00:20:28
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Yeah, i also think it's like New York, of course, isn't the small market team, but when you're talking about players, right, it's all, except except all of the teams are also like, we've been talking about for years, like when is the and NBA going to transition?
00:20:39
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the same guys
00:20:41
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When is it, right? And hopefully they start to market it better because like this is the time, like this is the time to transition when the four faces in the finals is Anthony Edwards, it's Jalen Brunson, it's SGA, and it's Tyrese Halliburton.
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I mean, come on
00:20:55
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Like, that is, like, and it's, like, okay, like, now can we stop talking about LeBron? can we stop talking about, like, not ever, but can we stop talking about LeBron? Can we stop talking about Steph? Can we stop talking about Kawhi? Like, less let's push, like, it's all it's all young final, right?
00:21:05
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Katie. Yeah.
00:21:10
Jordan
And then last year, it like, granted, like,
00:21:10
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Yeah.
00:21:13
Jordan
Last year was like that, too, because you had the Mavericks with Luka. You had Minnesota again. You had Boston, which Boston doesn't feel young because they've been to the finals so many times, but like they still are technically young superstars.
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Austin.
00:21:28
Jordan
like They were just on like the first year or so of their max deal.
00:21:29
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Yeah. Jason Tatum is what, like 29? I don't even think he's that old.
00:21:33
Jordan
No, he's like 27, 27, something like that, yeah.
00:21:33
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28? Yeah, I was like, I don't think he's even that old. Yeah.
00:21:38
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i just They just don't feel young because like second year in the league, they were battling LeBron in the finals, but they're also, so they've been like more of a quote unquote household name for a while, but they were young.
00:21:43
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Yeah.
00:21:46
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And I don't remember who the fourth team was. Maybe it was Miami, but but either way, three, yeah.
00:21:49
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ah For the East? No, that was Indiana again, I think.
00:21:53
Jordan
Last year?
00:21:55
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Yeah, because Indiana smacked New York up to get into the Eastern Conference Finals.
00:21:55
Jordan
Either way, like we, and then they lost to Boston.
00:21:58
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Yeah, yeah. And then they lost to Boston.
00:22:00
Jordan
So yeah, so it's like, so it's like you have basically two straight years where the final four are these young superstars and it's like, let's,
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Yeah.
00:22:08
Jordan
Let's get this marketing going. Let's let's let's let let's this is their time now, right?
00:22:09
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Yes.
00:22:12
Jordan
Like LeBron's not winning another one.
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I feel like the NBA...
00:22:15
Jordan
Steph's not winning another one. KD's not winning. KD's definitely not winning another one with how the Suns are looking right now.
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Not in Phoenix.
00:22:20
Jordan
So it's just like, yeah.
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Sorry. Not in Phoenix, fam.
00:22:24
Jordan
You got the Cavs. I mean, they got bounce, but the Cavs are up there. They're doing good with their young team.
00:22:28
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ra
00:22:29
Jordan
So so yeah, this is the if the and NBA does it well, this is an exciting time. And we're starting to finally see that transition. And all I can hope is that the superstars, show that they start to retire.
00:22:40
Jordan
Because that will also help. like
00:22:42
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Yeah, yeah, because I feel like the NBA has gotten a little lazy in their marketing, and they're and they're falling back on what we know. They're falling back on, oh, will LeBron get his, what, fifth, sixth, whatever, championship. They're falling back on Steph Curry and his shooting abilities. They're falling back on, will KD get back to the mountaintop? They're falling back on the same storylines that we've been having.
00:23:02
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And I've even
Jim Irsay's Legacy and Female Sports Leadership
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noticed, like, you could tell they ain't got no storylines because I think the biggest storyline that they have for the Thunder and the Minnesota Timberwolves is the fact that SGA and – Nikhil Alexander Walker are cousins.
00:23:14
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That's like the only storyline that they've been talking about this whole time.
00:23:16
Jordan
Oh, say Gildress Alexander to kill Alec. Okay.
00:23:19
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Uh-huh. They're cousins and they grew up together and they went to high school, I believe together. They went in like same area, whatever, but they grew up together. So, and they both wanted to be in the NBA together. And so this is a big deal. this is the first time that they've played each other for ah Western conference finals.
00:23:33
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So, um, that's, but that's the only storyline they got.
00:23:36
Jordan
Yeah, interesting.
00:23:37
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And I'm like, what the heck? And then the Knicks and Pacers, of course, they're they're living off of the Reggie Miller era and hearkening back to when the Pacers and the Knicks rivalry really like began. um But you could tell that that they haven't had to talk about anybody else for the last 20 years.
00:23:54
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So it'll be nice to to get some new storylines built.
00:23:56
Jordan
Yeah.
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I think I saw a tweet that said this is the first time that we've had an NBA Finals that did not include so or excuse me an nba like conference finals that did not include either steph lebron kd james harden i think russell westbrook k-why like enlisted a few people in like 10 years and it'll be the first time the nba has had seven straight champions that were all different nobody has repeated so we're in a due era like the the nba probably has the most parody that it's had in a while
00:24:13
Jordan
yeah
00:24:26
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Yep. um So moving on, because that was supposed to be the news.
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i know i know
00:24:30
Jordan
although tech Although technically, if we take out the non-news piece, it was a news item. We just detoured little bit.
00:24:36
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it was we had We didn't really talk about it as it was happening.
00:24:37
Jordan
um And yeah, in a sad piece of news, Colts owner Jim Irsay died at 65.
00:24:39
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Yeah.
00:24:43
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Yeah.
00:24:49
Jordan
I've been reading a lot of like stories about him, and there's just like a lot of really cool things that kind of happened with him. he ah Basically, his dad battled addiction and his dad was really mean. He was like a really mean drunk. And so, Ursae, you know, yes, obviously a billionaire, but he his dad sort of made him, he basically like, he knew that he was gonna get the team.
00:25:13
Jordan
And so he started at the bottom. He started as a ball boy. He worked his way up. He became the GM at 24. And let's be honest, that was a little bit of nepotism, but he worked all the way
00:25:23
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That's nepotism all day for the rest of our lives.
00:25:24
Jordan
Yeah, 24 is crazy, but he worked he worked all the way through, and like essentially anyone that knows him talked about like his sole goal in life was to not be his dad, who was a mean drunk and was mean to him and to the and was firing people. His dad is is obviously the person who picked up the Colts and moved them from Baltimore to Indianapolis in the middle of the night, which led to a whole bunch of things, and so...
00:25:49
Jordan
But he also unfortunately battled addiction with the tight painkillers and things like that. But like you know all the things coming out was just about how nice he was and like how what how much he did for Indianapolis and how much he did for people and how he didn't treat people like they weren't beneath him because he was rich.
00:26:05
Jordan
There was a lot of outpouring from former people. players and and let's be honest right like ownership in sports is very weird and so there's there doesn't seem to be a lot of owners that would get this kind of reaction from the media and from fans and from players the media is talking about how he used to call them and be like you know i got a journalism degree from smu like i want you to be honest i want you to be real like if we're bullshit and say that now i may call you at one o'clock in the morning to discuss it
00:26:16
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Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:26:32
Jordan
But like also, what billionaire is calling your local media member, and not like yelling at them and calling them stupid, but like actually talking about the story and why they felt that way and how they felt about the team and all of that stuff.
00:26:44
Jordan
And one piece that I think, especially coming off sort of what we just talked about, that I think is his most lasting legacy and I think that you will appreciate is he had three daughters and he said, I'm passing my team down to my daughters. As he was getting older, he's like, I'm not selling, I'm not adding another partner. It's staying in the family. I'm passing it down to my daughters. His daughters work all throughout.
00:27:08
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who
00:27:09
Jordan
the All throughout the team, the one the oldest one that they think is going to be the like leading owner, like the one that's calling the decisions, she's worked in scouting. She's been in the draft room for the last five to seven years. like She is in all of the business decisions and things like that.
00:27:25
Jordan
He has another daughter that does their philanthropy. And then his third daughter does a lot of their special, maybe the special events in philanthropy is the same one. Either way, they all work in three distinct, one, one, day oh no, it is different.
00:27:34
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In the system, yeah. yeah
00:27:37
Jordan
One does all the like big, the special events and all of that. The other one does the philanthropic arm. And then the other one is in doing like the oldest one has been doing a lot of the business decisions and different things like that. And so she's the one that they think is going to take over.
00:27:50
Jordan
And in an era, right, he's 65. And growing up in this time where most people don't care about their daughters, especially when it comes to sports and all of these kind of things, that he he's not one of those, like, you married my daughter, so my son-in-law is taking over.
00:28:03
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You're the owner now? Yeah, yeah.
00:28:04
Jordan
No, no, no. He's like, this is staying in the family. like My daughters like football. They grew up in a football family. They want to be a part of the organization. this is their team. And I think that is also a cool piece of his lasting legacy.
00:28:17
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Period.
00:28:18
Jordan
um
00:28:19
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Just like the lions. I mean, hey, the lions are good now because when you get a woman in charge, good things happen.
00:28:20
Jordan
Yeah.
00:28:24
Jordan
And I'm hoping we do the same thing because good Lord, boy, I'm tired of losing.
00:28:26
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I...
00:28:29
Jordan
I'm tired of losing.
00:28:29
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I know. I'm like, listen, I feel so much kinship with you when it comes to football fandom because both of our teams are trash.
00:28:37
Jordan
yeah
00:28:38
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like Mine, of course, has been historically trash for longer, I believe. The Cowboys have been doing worse than the Colts this whole time. I think the Colts... We've had some seasons where we were doing a little better, but for the most part, we've been trash for...
00:28:50
Jordan
Yeah. But also, like, with the Colts and the Cowboys thing, it was, like, a lot of people kind of talked about him a relation to Jerry because was, like, he was the GM.
00:29:01
Jordan
Like, he was making the decisions. And then when his dad died, he he was, like, basically, like, you could have been Jerry, right?
00:29:02
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ah who
00:29:06
Jordan
Like, you were the GM. Why, when you became the owner, did you not call the shots? And he said, because I i knew that I couldn't do both. Even though, like, he became the owner of like, 28. Like, he was still young. His dad, he, like, he was, like, I knew I...
00:29:17
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Oh, well, yeah, I wouldn't want to do both at 28 either.
00:29:19
Jordan
But it was just like 28, a lot of times at 28, you're also power hungry. So like to have the foresight to be like, I can't do both. I'm going to go hire these people and do these things and stuff. So it's it's very sad, but yeah, you know, hopefully it seems like he was in pain for like the last year or so. And he sort of kind of got out of the light for a while and he just kind of wasn't the same.
00:29:44
Jordan
So yeah.
00:29:47
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Well, shout out to him. He is an SMU alum, as you mentioned. And he played football at SMU in the 70s, I believe they said. ah That doesn't sound right. 60s? Sorry, 80s?
00:29:58
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They told us what team he was on. Anyways, the point is he played football at SMU, so shout out to him. um
Women's Flag Football and Olympic Prospects
00:30:03
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And I live for the daughter's thing because I did not know that.
00:30:07
Jordan
to do it.
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The last piece of news, because we have been talking about news for 30 minutes, is that the University of Texas at Arlington, not to be confused with University of Texas at Austin, Um, this just announced a couple of weeks ago, or actually last week, I believe that they are going to be the first NCAA division one school in Texas and the fifth overall to add a women's flag football to their roster of sports that they, um, offer.
00:30:33
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I am so excited about this. And then in turn, Arlington ISD, the Arlington independent school district added women's flag football to all six of the high schools. So, um, not only is there going to be the actual football team at the college, but now the, the locale school district is making sure that they have a system to feed up into it and I am so excited about this I am going to be going to some flag football games I can't wait to see what it looks like it's 40 minutes down the road for me so I get to actually kind of experience this in person and see what kind of culture we're going to be able to build around it um and I just love that because we talked about this obviously with the NCAA making it a sanctioned sport like
00:31:10
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what that was going to look like as far as schools that were going to add it, which conferences were going to add it, who was kind of going to be at the forefront of it. um And I love that a smaller market school like University of Texas Arlington is saying, hey, like, we're going to take this bet, we're going to take this risk and add it on. And so hopefully we'll see a lot more larger schools and larger markets um doing the same thing. So, um,
00:31:30
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Super excited. They are the first D1 school in Texas to do it, though. There are other schools in Texas that have done it. They're just not D1. um
00:31:36
Jordan
Yeah.
00:31:37
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But ah it's also super exciting because women's flag football will be debuting as an Olympic sport in this next year's Olympics in 2028.
00:31:37
Jordan
Yes.
00:31:44
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So we're creating a system, people. this is how This is how these things stick is when you create systems around it, when you make it into a place where you have –
00:31:46
Jordan
yes
00:31:52
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ways to move up. I'm very interested to see how the middle school system will also be participating in this because obviously there's middle school football. So I would imagine there should be some level of middle school girls flag football in order to kind of have even more of a feeder system or at least starting to see more community teams and things like that pop up. So I'm really excited about it. I can't wait.
00:32:11
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Hopefully SMU is going to follow suit.
00:32:13
Jordan
Yeah. um No, that's dope. My best friend coaches women's flag football in Charlotte, so it is becoming bigger and bigger, and pretty soon it is going to be standard.
00:32:25
Jordan
Maybe not pretty soon, right? It does take some time for this, but, you know, it is going to be standard.
00:32:27
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It takes some, yeah.
00:32:29
Jordan
And one of my favorite things, because I don't have kids yet, and I don't even know if I'm going to have a daughter, but like one of my favorite things to look at is sort of like at the age that I am, where will it be when I have kids? Like when my kid is going into high school, which is somewhere between 15 to 18 years, because I don't know when I'm going to have them, like where women's sports are going to be, right?
00:32:47
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It's...
00:32:49
Jordan
And so you at 14 to 18 years, soccer is going to be going up. We're probably going to have women's flag football. And at most D1 schools, we're probably going to have it at all of the high schools.
00:32:59
Jordan
like So it's it's very exciting. This stuff does take time, but you just kind of get the news more and more and then it just and then it sort of spirals right it's like the wmba right that spiraled um soccer women's soccer spiraled you had a couple world cups and then boom soccer's everywhere and now they're talking about academies and they're doing all these things and so you just need the momentum and the momentum is there for this and i yes specifically and i will say like the nfl and maybe not everyone has paid attention to this but the nfl has been
00:33:18
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here
00:33:22
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And the investment. To be clear, we need momentum and investment.
00:33:32
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heavily got focused on women's flag football for years. Like it did it took some time.
00:33:37
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The Dallas Cowboys is actually funding the Arlington ISD project.
00:33:40
Jordan
Yeah, like it took time, but the NFL has been talking about flag football as a whole and women's flag football for four or five years, maybe even longer than that.
00:33:47
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:48
Jordan
So I think that's, and and it's it's interesting because when they first started talking about flag football, it just sort of seemed like, oh, we're getting in trouble for concussions. So let's just do something.
00:33:58
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Do this other thing? Yeah.
00:33:59
Jordan
And maybe that's how, and maybe that's how it started, but now there's like a legitimate, like they do this, like the NFL is like really involved in this, both for men and women, but specifically for men women.
00:34:01
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Probably.
00:34:09
Jordan
So I think that's great. um
00:34:12
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I love it. I'm obsessed with it. I'm excited about it. um ive ah You said something that made me think. Oh, speaking of flag football, the NFL did, and this was not something that was obviously like we were like worried about, but the NFL did officially approve for NFL players to participate in flag football for the 2028 Olympics. So I am very excited about how that roster is going to shape up and who's going to end up playing for a Team USA for men's flag football. I'm very, very excited. Because obviously, like, we know NFL players a little bit better. i'm I'm sure the entire women's flag football team will not be women athletes that we're familiar with, probably.
00:34:46
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um But that'll be fun because it'll give them, they'll kind of, I'm hoping they'll have like a little ah little moment like rugby had where we're like, we don't know who these women are, but now we're obsessed. But I'm really excited to see like how that NFL roster, NFL it to flag football roster is going to develop. Who's going to be the coach? Who's going to be like, I'm really excited about that.
00:35:03
Jordan
Yeah, um I hope it's one of the coaches from the NFL. like There's not a lot, but there's about four five-ish on-field coaches like that are women in the NFL.
00:35:15
Jordan
So hopefully they they tap one or some of them to be involved.
00:35:17
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:19
Jordan
But it's also hypes up their profile and all of that sort of stuff.
00:35:22
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Yeah. Especially the Eagles coach.
00:35:23
Jordan
Is
00:35:24
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What is she? She's, i think she's one of the defensive coaches, right?
00:35:27
Jordan
she is she strength and conditioning?
00:35:30
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One of the two.
00:35:30
Jordan
No, the Eagles one is on field, I think. i don't think she's strength and conditioning. I don't remember what she does, though.
00:35:35
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I think I don't fully remember, but yeah.
00:35:37
Jordan
But I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:38
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Yeah. That'd be super cool. Just cause her profile would be pretty, her profile is kind of the highest at this point out of all the female coaches. Cause she just won a Superbowl. and think she became the first female coach to win a Superbowl if I'm not mistaken.
00:35:45
Jordan
Yeah,
00:35:49
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So
00:35:49
Jordan
because I think one of them, at least at one point in time, was a ra was on the Raiders, and they not winning nothing.
00:35:54
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yeah. And another one was on the Falcons and they won and yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:56
Jordan
And they not winning nothing. Yeah, so.
00:35:58
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We, but I mean, shout out to the Falcons. We're, we're rooting for y'all anyway. Okay.
College Football Playoff Changes and Practice Adjustments
00:36:01
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That's, that is all the news.
00:36:03
Jordan
Yeah. To go to our two-minute drill, very quickly, for we we the the college football has finally made a decision on something. It's not the full decision, but its it is a decision that did need to be made.
00:36:11
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Oh my God. They're deciding.
00:36:16
Jordan
It's only the end of May, and the season starts in a couple of months, but they did finally decide that for 2025 only – only
00:36:24
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this all This season.
00:36:26
Jordan
They are going to straight seeding, meaning 1 through 12, meaning for all of the people who complained about this team getting this thing, the auto bids, and how it was sort of weird because this was sort of a weird year, and Boise had a bye, and whatever it was, for this year only, because we don't know what the next
00:36:34
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The auto bids.
00:36:46
Jordan
year is going to look like they're going straight bids which means the bids are going to be based off of the committee ranking there are still auto bids it's just not auto buys so the conference champs all get in the best g5 team still gets in but you do not have to be a conference champion to get a buy so how this would have how this would have happened last year to make this make sense is last year
00:36:56
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Oh, okay.
00:37:13
Jordan
Oregon, Penn State, Texas, and Georgia would have gotten the buys. If you remember last year, Oregon and Georgia got the buy. Texas and Penn State did not.
00:37:25
Jordan
One of those, I believe, was Arizona State. And then the other one, I believe, was... Who's the other one? I don't remember. But it was another team that they felt shouldn't have got it. it was Boise.
00:37:37
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Uh, it was no, another team that they felt shouldn't have gotten.
00:37:41
Jordan
The bye, not the shouldn't have got in. The four byes.
00:37:43
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Oh, oh, oh, the buys.
00:37:44
Jordan
I think Boise...
00:37:44
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I don't know. I wasn't listening to all the chatter about the buys. I didn't care.
00:37:47
Jordan
Yeah, I think it was Boise who got the bye. because Yeah, it was, because Clemson won the ACC, but they didn't get it. It was Boise who got the bye.
00:37:53
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Yeah.
00:37:54
Jordan
So if they had straight seeding last year, this is how it would have been.
00:37:54
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Yeah.
00:38:01
Jordan
Oregon won, Georgia 2, Texas 3, Penn State 4, Notre Dame 5, Ohio State 6, Tennessee 7, Indiana 8, Boise 9, SMU 10, Arizona State 11, Clemson 12.
00:38:18
Jordan
What this would have led to is Boise versus Indiana in the first round, Clemson versus Notre Dame in the first round, Arizona State versus Ohio State in the first round, and SMU versus Tennessee in the first round.
00:38:32
Jordan
So there's a chance that we could have gotten some more interesting games,
00:38:36
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Some more competitive games, yeah.
00:38:38
Jordan
In the first round. And then how they they projected who would win, just to kind of show the next thing. The second round, how this was projected, is they have Oregon versus Indiana.
00:38:44
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Yeah.
00:38:49
Jordan
And the second round, if you remember, Oregon played Ohio State and got smacked up.
00:38:53
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Smacked up.
00:38:54
Jordan
Oregon fans were very unhappy about that.
00:38:55
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Smacked up and packed up.
00:38:56
Jordan
Yeah, they would have preferred to play Indiana. Penn State would have played Notre Dame in the second round. We did get that game, but we got that game in the semis.
00:39:04
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Later. Yeah.
00:39:05
Jordan
Texas would have played Ohio State in the second round. Again, we did get that game, but that would have been in the semis.
00:39:09
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Later.
00:39:11
Jordan
And Georgia would have played Tennessee in the second round.
00:39:16
Jordan
So, better or worse, i don't know. i like... it
00:39:21
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It's... there I mean, fundamentally speaking, those are more entertaining ah interesting and entertaining matchups than what we ended up with. Like, the first round of games was... I was bored. Everybody was getting blown out. Like, it was it was a little less competitive. It didn't feel like it got competitive until the semis.
00:39:37
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So... I mean, I don't know.
00:39:40
Jordan
Yeah.
00:39:40
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i think I think I'm glad that they're only doing it for one year. I'm glad that they're not like laying down and getting married to this idea because this may not also work either or there might still be some other wonky thing.
00:39:52
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So I'm glad that they're like willing to go kind of like year to year and figure out the best way to do this and work out the kinks because like this the first time. Well, now second time that they're going to do it this way. So there's just that they are just going to have to be able a little bit of trial and error on like how this is all going to work.
00:40:06
Jordan
Yeah, and because of that, there is no telling when we're going to find out about 26. We still don't know if we're doing 14 or 16.
00:40:13
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Yeah.
00:40:14
Jordan
We still don't know if we're doing auto bids or not.
00:40:15
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Yeah.
00:40:16
Jordan
We don't know if the Big Ten is going to get four and the SEC is going get four if we don't know like We still don't know like if they do the four, if if it's going to be straight seeding. We don't know anything about 2026.
00:40:28
Jordan
They don't know anything about 2026. They're just sitting in a room.
00:40:30
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We're taking it one year at a time. Okay.
00:40:31
Jordan
Yeah, they're just they're just sitting in a room arguing about it. But the the hope is they want – especially because it's 2026, they're going to have to make other changes. Like, they're most likely going to have to change the calendar.
00:40:40
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Yeah.
00:40:42
Jordan
The goal is that they know 2026 before this season starts. So there's another meeting in June, and I think the hope is that June or July, because there's going to be other things they have to do, namely moving the – I think the calendar going have to start a week ahead.
00:40:49
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Yeah.
00:40:58
Jordan
at least one And then they're going to have to throw in some other things. And then you also remember the Big Ten and the SEC is potentially talking about doing play-in games for their, if they get the four out. There's a lot of dominoes that has to happen once they know 2026 through 2036.
00:41:12
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What they're doing. Yeah.
00:41:14
Jordan
So we'll see.
00:41:15
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Yeah.
00:41:16
Jordan
But that happened. And then the other thing which I thought was interesting, and we don't know if this is going to happen, but I think this makes so much sense.
00:41:18
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Good times.
00:41:25
Jordan
The college football coaches, and i want to emphasize coaches because i feel like people don't listen to the coaches enough when they make rule changes, then I think this one would be pretty smart. Cali's football coaches are discussing a plan to add NFL-style OTAs the spring calendar.
00:41:41
Jordan
For those who don't know right now it's just spring training you get fifteen practices in most cases your fifteenth practice is your spring game so you get 14 and it has to happen in the spring it typically happens in March what they're saying is because of the transfer portal and and and you also with this you also can't practice over the summer so what they do over the summer is like they do unorganized workouts and basically your quarterback and your wide receivers will go out and run and like they'll do things they'll get into the playoffs but it has to be player-led and in general the only coaches that are allowed to
00:41:56
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issues
00:42:04
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Workouts. Yeah.
00:42:15
Jordan
to interact with players over the summer is strength and conditioning.
00:42:17
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It's like position coaches, right? Oh, strength and conditioning.
00:42:19
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Yeah.
00:42:19
Jordan
Yeah, it's like but they can't do any team activities and things.
00:42:22
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Yeah.
00:42:23
Jordan
So um what they're basically saying is because of the transfer portal, because so many teams don't have their full roster, the the playoffs going longer, right?
00:42:23
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Yeah.
00:42:33
Jordan
Ohio State and Notre Dame didn't finish. And literally, Ohio State played a game when their spring semester started. The current calendar doesn't allow for you to do much. And so what they're asking for is they want to add six non-padded workouts to the 15 spring practices for a total of 21 days.
00:42:52
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twenty one
00:42:53
Jordan
And then those 21 days can be split across two different five-week windows for a total of seven weeks. And what they're saying is there must be at least three weeks between the two sessions.
00:43:08
Jordan
And it spans from January to June. So to be clear, because that sounds confusing, basically, you can have two five-week windows of practice where you are splitting 21 practices anytime from January to June.
00:43:26
Jordan
Every team can be different, right? Ohio State could do theirs in April and June. Texas could do theirs in February and April, right? SMU could do theirs in They could do this, right?
00:43:35
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March and May, probably.
00:43:36
Jordan
Like you can do it whenever, but you have five weeks and there has to be three weeks in between. So they can't be back to back. You have to give players time to rest. I think what would happen is most of them, most players, most teams would do it March.
00:43:51
Jordan
They would keep their traditional, except maybe they'd cut a few. And then they would do June is what I think most would do. Most would do March and June. They may do April and June just to give whatever.
00:44:04
Jordan
But the emphasis on June is this last transfer portal window because currently, if you get players in the transfer portal in April and May, you can't practice with them until August.
00:44:15
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Mm-hmm.
00:44:18
Jordan
And so one of the quotes specifically said, if you're at Clemson who doesn't lose anybody, you can have traditional spring and just get six extra opportunities in the summer. Or if you're like said Liberty head coach, Jamie Chadwell.
00:44:32
Jordan
Or if you're like us that loses a lot every year and you don't have the majority of your team until May, then you can practice more in May or June. So you could flip it.
00:44:42
Jordan
You could say, we're going to do six practices in April, right, just to kind of get the juices flowing.
00:44:47
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Get everybody out. Yeah.
00:44:47
Jordan
And then we're going to do our 15 practices in June when we have the full team. And so remaking the spring calendar has been a frequent point of discussion by sports leaders. um They're also considering moving the transfer portal um to a single 10-day window.
00:45:03
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Yeah, they probably should.
00:45:03
Jordan
There's a lot of things. and so Honestly, I thought that I think this is brilliant, right? I think it makes a lot of sense.
00:45:08
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:09
Jordan
I think it helps, right? When you have the rosters, you have these sort of things. um And i don't it's not adding too much on players, right? It's six non-patitive practices. So like you're not adding a bunch of extra hitting and things like that.
00:45:23
Jordan
It's essentially just more time for you to get in the playbook, for you to do team activities, to build chemistry with all of the ever-changing landscape.
00:45:26
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To Kim build chemistry. Yeah.
00:45:32
Jordan
I don't know when this would be voted on, because they have various times where they vote on rule changes. I think the earliest this could be done would be in the summer for next year.
00:45:47
Jordan
But if we're being honest, it probably wouldn't happen until 2027, just because there's so many other things that they're doing.
00:45:51
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Seven probably. Yeah.
00:45:55
Jordan
But this is another, and the long list of changes that are going to come, this is going to come. And I really hope it happens. They don't listen to coaches, so it may not, but I think this is dope.
00:46:04
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I do think it it makes sense, though, because the biggest issue has also there's also just been an overarching issue of coaches not wanting to have spring games because of the transfer portal issues. Right. So I think all of this is related. Like if we can have a little bit more freedom in our practice scheduling, if we can have more time with the teams because there's so much transferring going on, if we can close the transfer portal window a little bit earlier or make it just ah shorter time period, I think that helps that that helps everyone at end of the day. like I don't think they're suggesting things that's only beneficial to their specific situation. That's something that can help everyone across the board because it's not like they're saying they want people to transfer less or they want what we do, but that's not happening.
00:46:46
Jordan
Yeah.
00:46:47
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That is not happening. After the house settlement and after everything goes the way it's supposed to go transferring is only going to get more and more high volume and they should be able to ah there should be adjustments in place for that.
00:46:57
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Like, that's not fair to say, okay, well, we practiced and we have to have all of our spring practices in this period of time.
00:46:58
Jordan
yeah
00:47:03
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And then we get 20 new guys after that. Like, now what?
00:47:05
Jordan
Yep. You have right, like, you have, and using Ohio State for an example, right? Half of Ohio State's players didn't even practice in the spring.
00:47:14
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:15
Jordan
Because like you're going to tell Jeremiah Smith, you're going to tell your starting offensive line, you're going to tell these players who just played 16, 17 games that three weeks later they need to be at practice again, their body needs the rest.
00:47:27
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They're not doing it.
00:47:27
Jordan
They need to heal.
00:47:28
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Yeah.
00:47:29
Jordan
right You need the time.
00:47:29
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Yeah.
00:47:30
Jordan
And so honestly, right i think with a lot what for a lot of teams, especially the big programs, the spring would just be for the young guys.
00:47:37
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Yeah.
00:47:38
Jordan
Obviously, like the on-field practices, of course, the hitting, right?
00:47:41
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yeah
00:47:42
Jordan
obviously you're working out, you're running, you're doing that, but the on-field practices would be for the young guys. They would get six, seven, eight practices of reps, right? With the coaches, with the hit and to do all these things.
00:47:52
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With the schemes, with everything. Yeah.
00:47:54
Jordan
And then you come into the summer when you have your full roster and your Jeremiah Smith has had time to heal and not get hit and your, um, Cape club mix and your, you know, it all insert your star player, right?
00:48:07
Jordan
Uh, Benjamin Morrison from, um, Notre Dame, it doesn't matter, right? These players, they got that time to heal. And then in June, you say, all right, boom, here's six, seven, eight practices.
00:48:16
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It's time. Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:18
Jordan
The whole team is doing it. Starters are doing it. You got your rest in the spring. Here we go. And then you're off in July, right? You're off the first couple weeks in August because camp typically starts middle to late August or whatever. And then you're back at it.
00:48:30
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yeah
00:48:30
Jordan
I think that works for everyone.
00:48:32
Jordan
I think it makes sense. It works if your team did a late playoff run. It works if you had a bunch of transition in the transfer portal, Like, I don't see who this hurts, especially for those of you who don't know this, the players are on campus in the summer anyway.
00:48:45
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They're there.
00:48:46
Jordan
Like, like they're all, like, it's not yet.
00:48:46
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They're taking summer classes. They're doing... They're there.
00:48:49
Jordan
So, it's, like, they're already you there. This is one of the best ideas I've heard in a while. i It's new, so there could be something later that comes up that's dumb, but, like, this is one of the few things that I heard and I instantly was like, that makes sense.
00:49:01
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This could... This could work. Yeah.
00:49:03
Jordan
Yeah. So...
00:49:04
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Yeah. And you just, you have to get with the times at the end of the day, like you just have to get with the times. And I think this is one of those sorts of rule changes or additions, if you will, that is just indicative of the times.
00:49:16
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Like this is where we're at.
00:49:16
Jordan
Yes.
00:49:17
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the the The landscape is different.
00:49:19
Jordan
the
00:49:19
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More guys are transferring. There's the playoffs. It's longer now, especially if we're go to talk about 14 or 16 teams, like it's longer, it's more games, it's more activity. It's more like we have to adjust as the game continues to change.
00:49:31
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So hopefully that does work out because I think, again, like it's not one of those things where it's like so obviously only going to benefit like the bigger teams are only going to like this is something that can actually genuinely help everybody in every sort of situation.
00:49:47
Jordan
All right, so we'll see.
00:49:47
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Cute. Love it. Oh, my god We're yapping.
00:49:51
Jordan
i think this is is interesting. So to as we transition to our power sweep, setting this is going to be the last thing that we talk about today. um
00:49:59
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Purr.
00:50:00
Jordan
It is 2025. twenty twenty five And you know what 2025 means?
00:50:03
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It is.
00:50:05
Jordan
It means we are officially at a quarter of a century, right? And we all know that everyone loves to do 25, 50, 7,500, right?
00:50:14
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oh
00:50:16
Jordan
They like to do the best teams, right? You can't do the best teams every decade. Like people do do all decade teams, but like 25 years, that's enough time where you can, you get multiple errors. So the athletic, they're doing a big series on the quarter century.
00:50:30
Jordan
They did
Top College Football Programs Analysis
00:50:30
Jordan
one, they did a multiple for college football. So for college football, they did the best programs. They did the best teams, meaning like, right, 2018 Alabama versus 2017 Alabama versus 2019 Ohio State, like individual teams.
00:50:43
Jordan
They did 25 best players for baseball. They did 25 best players. um Like they did a like one player at each position of the last 25 years.
00:50:54
Jordan
there were two There were three Yankees on there. Shout out Derek Jeter. Shout out Aaron Judge. Shout out Mariano Rivera.
00:51:00
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Mm-hmm.
00:51:01
Jordan
um So they're doing this, right? And so one that i thought would be interesting to sort of talk about, ah just to go over briefly, is the top 25 programs of the last 25 years. they What they looked at to determine, and again, this is only one person, right?
00:51:18
Jordan
But what they looked at to to determine this, they looked at win percentage, they looked at BCS versus New Year's Six bowl games. Those are the top of the top bowl game for those who don't know.
00:51:29
Jordan
They looked at national titles, they looked at conference titles, top 10 wins, top 25 wins, top 10 rankings at the end of the season, top 10 ranking, top 25 rankings at the end of the season, and then losing seasons.
00:51:44
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Come on, data.
00:51:46
Jordan
So based on all of this, I'm going to run down the teams 25 to 1, and then we can just give our thoughts about any, right?
00:51:52
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Come on.
00:51:55
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Let's rattle them off. Let's do it.
00:51:56
Jordan
So number, and I'll just like, I'm not going to read all these stats for all of them, but just the ones that thought were interesting. So number 25 is Michigan State. They've had two conference titles and four BCS slash New Year's Six Bowl game appearances.
00:52:12
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Period.
00:52:12
Jordan
um
00:52:12
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Period.
00:52:13
Jordan
Washington is 24. They have five New Year's Six or BCS Bowl appearances, four conference titles, and they haven't won a national championship, but they, yeah, okay.
00:52:24
Jordan
Iowa's 23rd. Iowa's 23rd. They have three New Year's Six and no conference titles, but they only have two losing seasons in 25 years.
00:52:36
Jordan
two losing Iowa.
00:52:36
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I'm sorry, who was that again?
00:52:40
Jordan
They only have two losing seasons in 25 years.
00:52:44
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Why am I shook at that information?
00:52:46
Jordan
They're all, again yeah, yeah. Number 22 is Utah. They have five conference titles and four I'm just going to say four BCS slash New Year's Six Bowl appearances.
00:52:59
Jordan
21 is Oklahoma State. They have one conference title and three BCS New Year's Six Bowl appearances, but they only have four losing seasons in 25 years. Number 20 is Boise State, four BCS New Year's Six, 13 conference titles, and zero losing seasons in 25 years.
00:53:15
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Wow.
00:53:21
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Period.
00:53:23
Jordan
TCU is 19. They have four BCS New Year's Six, four conference titles. Virginia Tech is 18. They have five BCS New Year's Six, four conference titles.
00:53:37
Jordan
Penn State, this one is interesting, but you have to remember it's 25 years. So Penn State is 17 because they were bad at the beginning of the decade.
00:53:41
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Right, right, right, right, right. right
00:53:45
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Yeah.
00:53:45
Jordan
But they have eight BCS New Year's Six, three conference championships, and five losing seasons.
00:53:52
Jordan
But the biggest issue for Penn State is they only have seven top 10 wins in 25 years. So Penn State is one of the better programs now. but when you look at it, they have 17.
00:54:03
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compare Comparatively, yeah, yeah.
00:54:05
Jordan
Yep, 16 is Wisconsin, six BCS bowl appearances, three conference championships. They've also only had two losing seasons. And unfortunately, i think at least one of those is in the last couple of years. Maybe both of them are in the last couple of years.
00:54:19
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Yeah, i feel like Wisconsin has been on the downward trend.
00:54:21
Jordan
Which is unfortunate because OSU legend Luke Vickle is their head coach.
00:54:23
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Yeah.
00:54:24
Jordan
So, yeah.
00:54:25
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Oh, really?
00:54:27
Jordan
Auburn is 15. They have five BCS, New Year's Six, one natty, three conference championships. Shout out to Cam Newton for that natty.
00:54:37
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I was like, what Natty was that?
00:54:38
Jordan
Miami.
00:54:39
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Did you see my face?
00:54:40
Jordan
Yeah, Cam.
00:54:41
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was like, which one was that?
00:54:41
Jordan
I did. i did. Cam Newton.
00:54:43
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Oh, Cam Newton. i forgot he went Auburn.
00:54:44
Jordan
Yeah.
00:54:45
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I mean, I don't know why i keep associating him with Florida.
00:54:45
Jordan
Yep.
00:54:48
Jordan
Because that's where he went to Florida, and then he got in trouble about kicked off the team, went to Auburn, and won a national championship. He was only at auburn he was only an Auburn for one year, and they went undefeated and won a national championship.
00:54:53
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oh Oh.
00:54:57
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Gotcha. Because I'm like, I feel like I more associate him with Florida than with Auburn. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:55:02
Jordan
Yeah.
00:55:02
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I'm not a Cam Newton historian, so.
00:55:05
Jordan
Yeah. Number 14 is Miami. They have five BCS New York Six Bowl appearances, one national championship, four conference titles, and they have 13 top 10 wins.
00:55:16
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Oh, love that for them.
00:55:17
Jordan
Notre Dame is number 13. They have nine BCS New Year's 6, no conference titles because they're not in a conference.
00:55:23
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Right.
00:55:23
Jordan
um Yes. Florida State is 12. They have 10 BCS New Year's 6, one national championship, James Winston, shout out, and six conference titles.
00:55:33
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Period.
00:55:35
Jordan
Michigan is 11, nine BCS New Year's 6, one national title, five conference championships.
00:55:42
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Boo.
00:55:43
Jordan
so Florida is 10. They have nine BCS New Year's Six, two national titles, three conference championships, and they have 29 top 10 wins.
00:55:55
Jordan
top ten liness They average a top 10 win a year.
00:55:56
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Wow.
00:55:58
Jordan
And the fun the craziest thing about that number, that's only sixth.
00:56:04
Jordan
Like of every team, it's only sixth. There's five teams that have more than 29 top 10 wins.
00:56:08
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More than that.
00:56:09
Jordan
absolutely
00:56:10
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Jesus.
00:56:11
Jordan
Texas is not one of them, but Texas is ninth.
00:56:13
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Well.
00:56:14
Jordan
They have seven BCS New Year's Six, one national title, three conference championships.
00:56:21
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They won the Natty win, like early twenty ten s right?
00:56:21
Jordan
USC, earlier than that, it was Vince Young, it was 2005, 2005?
00:56:27
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Oh, Vince Young.
00:56:27
Jordan
i
00:56:29
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Okay.
00:56:29
Jordan
thousand in the five
00:56:29
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I was like, I, it's hard to believe that we're 25 years into the 2000s sometimes. Okay, go ahead.
00:56:35
Jordan
I know, right? Like the the fact that we're even doing this is insane.
00:56:36
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Like, it's, it's like, it's like causing an issue.
00:56:39
Jordan
Like we're we're talking about, yeah, we're talking about 25 years and I've been alive for all of it. Like no other time when we're talking about 25 years have I been, it's like, oh, that was before me. No, no, no, this is all, this is all firmly, yeah, like like all of this happened and most of it happened when I could remember it.
00:56:47
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That was before my time. No, I lived through all of this.
00:56:54
Jordan
Like it was only five, yeah, like, like, like, yeah, like,
00:56:54
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consciousness yes like what the fact that we can harken back and be like oh yeah that was when that team won that championship oh someone so was on that team it's like cam newton has played college football played nfl football and retired to become a cop podcast dude in all of this time
00:57:02
Jordan
open yeah
00:57:11
Jordan
He's become a freaking meme. Like, what are we talking about?
00:57:13
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like what oh my god okay i'm sorry oh that's so funny he's expecting like his 22nd child or something like that did you see that
00:57:14
Jordan
Like, yeah.
00:57:20
Jordan
Oh, brother.
00:57:22
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I'm just kidding.
00:57:22
Jordan
No.
00:57:23
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It's not 22. I think it's like, I want to say it's nine, but yeah.
00:57:25
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It's still. That's crazy.
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And it's like his second child with this particular person. Yeah.
00:57:31
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Okay. USC is number eight. They have eight BCS New York Six Bowl appearances, two national titles, two championships, seven conference titles. And they only have three losing seasons.
00:57:44
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Most of those have happened in the last couple of years.
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couple years. Yeah.
00:57:47
Jordan
um Oregon is seven. They have ten bcs new year six appearances, eight conference titles.
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Frickin Oregon. Oregon.
00:57:53
Jordan
And they also only have two losing seasons. They also, yep, they only have two losing seasons, yep.
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In 25 years? um
00:57:59
Jordan
And they have 23 top 10 wins. They're in number eight.
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Okay, pause. Because I was talking to ah somebody about this. I was like, I just feel like Oregon really like fashioned their way into success. Like, they just were like, if we change our uniforms, everything will change.
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And they're a case study in that.
00:58:17
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It did. It did.
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Like, I can't wait to watch a documentary about the success, the trajectory that Oregon was on once they changed their appearance.
00:58:18
Jordan
Yeah, yeah. Literally.
00:58:26
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They said, they said, or some, like, Phil Knight was sitting there, and he heard someone say, look good, feel good.
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Because I just...
00:58:32
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He said, look good, feel good.
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Look good. Feel good.
00:58:35
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Look good, feel good.
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I'm going to take that to the most extreme level possible. I'm going to put these niggas in highlighters and now they're going to freaking conference champion game championship games.
00:58:40
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Bet! Walked in.
00:58:47
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like what the hell?
00:58:47
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like Like, literally, like, Oregon is battling Ohio State and Alabama for the top recruits in the country. And it's all because of 2010 to 2015 when they had Marcus Mariota and DeAnthony Thomas and all these people.
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Of aesthetics.
00:59:02
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And you know why I remember it? Because I watched them, too. And I said, ooh, them boys, they're fast.
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I was drinking the Oregon Kool-Aid too!
00:59:08
Jordan
ah Literally, if I'm telling you, if I was an Ohio State fan, is a chance I could have been an Oregon fan. Because you're watching it, and like, boy, they're fast, and they look good. Like, the highlight, that's back when everybody was making the YouTube highlight tape for everybody.
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They're aesthetically pleasing?
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Yes! sir
00:59:24
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So you're watching Oregon, you're watching them juke and spin and cut all stuff, the fun, the uniforms, and you're like, dang, that's hard.
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Oh my god, yes They were taking it over the internet. They were the internet system.
00:59:33
Jordan
Yeah.
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And then the thing was, basketball was the same way. like Football obviously was more like high profile, but basketball, it was the same thing. If you turn on an Oregon basketball game, both men's and women's, you're like, damn, that's suited and booted.
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What is going on here?
00:59:45
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Yeah, they look good.
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And one of my coworkers, she played lacrosse at Oregon.
00:59:46
Jordan
Hold up.
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She just graduated a year or two ago. So she did a presentation recently in one of our work meetings um about Oregon and the facilities that they have available for the athletes. Yo. Those facilities are insane.
01:00:00
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Yeah. Mm-hmm.
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It's insane. They have like a cleat wall with all of the different like versions of the cleats that they've worn and like all this other stuff.
01:00:05
Jordan
Mm-hmm.
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I'm like, bro, the investment, the investment.
01:00:11
Jordan
i speaking of this is slightly Oregon slightly Nike related i was talking I was watching this video of this dude who's like I play basketball right like I play basketball in college I'm good I'm tall whatever it was basically I was working at Nike and they're like hey yeah we play basketball after after work you want play it's like oh sure yeah I'll play it's whatever he's like I didn't think about the fact that we were in the Nike facility so i didn't think about the fact that like cause they had their own league and i was like i didn't think about the fact that some of the people on this team would be ex-NBA players or people who played
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yeah
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Used to be pros. Yeah.
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overseas and he's like there is such a difference between playing in college and playing pro at any level. He said, I played one game.
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Oh, yeah.
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i was getting dunked on, jumped over. he said, I am never doing this again.
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He's like, get me out of here.
01:00:58
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It was right after my 9 to 5. The game started 5.30, so I literally got off work, laced up my shoes, just to get dunked on on a Tuesday. Oh, that's hilarious.
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I'm screaming.
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a lot of if A lot of you are unaware. the president of basketball at ah Nike for the last 20 years up until this year, he is now a famous GM. Nico?
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Harrison used to be the president of basketball at Nike.
01:01:21
Jordan
Interesting. He need to go back. He need to go back.
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And, and he talked about when I met him some months ago, he talked about how ah he, he was one of the few people at Nike that worked his way up.
01:01:25
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um o if you If you come in with a good attitude and stick to it, you too can trade Luca.
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Like he worked at Nike for 20 years and started off as an intern and worked his way up to being the president of basketball. So he's like that story of like, if you just come in with a good attitude, stick to it, whatever, blah, blah, you can move up. But he has no experience in,
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You too can trade Luka Doncic and then win the lottery.
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Yeah, like that's insane.
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Oh my gosh, we didn't even talk about that, dude.
01:01:54
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Nike did that. Nike did that.
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We didn't even talk about that. Okay, i'm sorry.
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Go ahead.
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Yeah.
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um oh
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Where are we? Number nine? number eight?
01:02:03
Jordan
very Side note. Somebody was making, I just saw this i just saw this quick video. Somebody was like, man, you would that like you'd need to be like an engineer or something to rig the and NBA draft lottery. And someone sticks the video and he was like, look at me.
01:02:17
Jordan
um'm I'm a bad magician. I'm fumbling my cards. And I watched that video, and I came up with 10 ways to rig that lottery. Like, it was like, literally, it's like, you can ask any magician anywhere.
01:02:28
Jordan
They could rig that lottery. Like, they're going to tell you the secrets, but it's it's just with literally just weighted balls, right? Like, like some balls weigh heavier than others. Like, I'm not even a magician. I can rig the lottery. Like, I'm sorry.
01:02:38
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You can't tell me that the... it Listen, I'm not saying it is...
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Oh, it's so rigged. It's like laughable.
01:02:43
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But it's but like you cant you can't expect me to believe.
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Anytime a team loses a big prospect, they win the lottery.
01:02:47
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You can't tell me to believe. You can't get me to believe that you can't break Like, what are you talking about? It's not hard.
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Okay.
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Oh, yeah. I saw a tweet that explained it. It was like after LeBron left the Cavs, they won the lottery.
01:02:58
Jordan
Yes.
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After AD left ah the Pelicans, they won the lottery.
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Yep.
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after it like It happens all the time. like it's It's something that is like a known pattern in the NBA that typically when a team loses a big prospect or a big player, they end up with a very, very high draft pick after that.
01:03:04
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Yeah.
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Somehow. and and know And a lot of them had like really, really rough seasons.
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Yeah.
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Because we it makes no sense for as far as we made it in the season to to get the number one pick. It makes no sense.
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You had a 1.8 chance. Like, 1.8% chance.
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We had a 1.8. I was like, I was sitting on the couch.
01:03:26
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Like, that never should have happened.
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I was sitting on the couch. Okay. Danasia and Jordan Lord. Cause I was sitting on the couch. Right. And I got the ESPN. Cause I do not watch the NBA lottery. Are you joking?
01:03:37
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Who is, you for what?
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So I was, I got the yeah e ESPN. Who's watching that? Like realistically, you ain't got nothing else to do with your time.
01:03:41
Jordan
Somebody, but
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Like you just don't have anything else to do. So I was sitting there, was chilling. was talking to my friend and I was like, I looked at my phone and i it said, Mavericks won the lottery. And I was like, that's not what that says. Yeah.
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And I put it back down because I was like, that's not true. And I think you texted me and then you FaceTimed me and you were like, bro.
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I said, Nico's about to get away with it.
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I was like,
01:04:01
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I was walking to the store and I FaceTimed you. Yeah,
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was like, what are you doing outside? First of all, I was just like, I forgot.
01:04:08
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like I'm going to the store. You have to walk in.
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You know, I'll be forgetting that people like walk places and other places because like I can't walk to no damn star.
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you have to walk in new york
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I know I'm like in Dallas, like, where am I walking?
01:04:17
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if
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Like I live across the street from a target. So yes, realistically I could walk to target, but I don't shop at target.
01:04:23
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But you've got, I'm guessing, I've never been to your house. i get I'm guessing you have to walk what? Four lanes of traffic and then the parking lot's huge?
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No, like my apartment complex is situated genuinely like right across the street from a target.
01:04:36
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Right, but it's not four lanes of traffic.
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So no, no, no.
01:04:39
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It's not like, okay, it's only two.
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It's like, it's two, two lane streets. So I guess it is four lanes, but not four lanes, one direction.
01:04:42
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Yeah, that's four lanes. Yeah, but that's what I meant.
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It's two two-lane streets.
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Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:46
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Yeah, I know how it works.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like a regular street.
01:04:48
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Four lanes of traffic, yeah.
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It's not trash. It's like a regular residential street.
01:04:54
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Yeah, but if you have a trip from a big city, it's not regular, right?
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Like, walk across.
01:04:57
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like There's a lot of places where it's only two, one in each direction. like Four is not huge, especially when your highways are like eight lanes.
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01:05:06
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But like walking across four lanes of traffic to get somewhere is not ideal, is what i would be.
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art Yeah. Yeah.
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But it's not like traffic. Like, I guess that's I'm like four, it's four lanes. Yes. But it's a residential like street.
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So it's not like popular. Like, yeah, it's not like a popular street.
01:05:17
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So there's not a lot of cars.
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I just, OK, I got you.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's popular because there's a target right there, but it's not like, oh my gosh, like cars lined up down the road.
01:05:25
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Right.
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Like, it's not like that.
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I got
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you.
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Anyways, I'm giving you way too much information about where I live.
01:05:31
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Yeah.
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The point is,
01:05:32
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Start with Target. not ah
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The point is don't shop at Target. um
01:05:37
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Yeah.
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Because the boycott is actually working.
01:05:38
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Clemson. Hey, don't let them tell you.
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Anyways. Period.
01:05:42
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Okay. Clemson is number six. ah Clemson has...
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That's not shocking.
01:05:48
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10 BCS New York Six Bowls, two national championships, nine conference titles, 23 top 10 wins, and only one losing season. Yep,
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Only two natties?
01:06:01
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it's just two. They've been to...
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Only two?
01:06:04
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Hold on. Are they They're either two and two or two and one.
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They must have been a bunch.
01:06:10
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I can't remember. they've been the I know for a fact they've been to three because they lost one to Bama.
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Okay.
01:06:16
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But they've either been to two or they they've been to three or they've been to four. I can't remember exactly, but they won two.
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That makes sense. I'm like, I recall seeing them in the natties more than just two times. Okay.
01:06:28
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Yeah.
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you can
01:06:29
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Yes.
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Because we're old enough to remember all this.
01:06:31
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Of course. um
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Period.
01:06:32
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LSU is five.
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Period.
01:06:34
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LSU has had seven BCS New Year's Six, three national titles, five conference championships, ah to one losing season, and they have 37 top 10 wins.
01:06:46
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And they are three in top 10 wins.
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Wow.
01:06:49
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Georgia is number four. They have 11 BCS New Year's Six.
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Yeah.
01:06:53
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They have two national titles, five conference titles, and also only one losing season.
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Period.
01:06:58
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Oklahoma is third. They have seven championships.
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Huh?
01:07:02
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Yeah, they have 17 BCS New York Six Bowl games, one national title, 13 conference championships, and only two losing seasons.
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They also have 78.9% winnings percentage, which is third.
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Wow.
01:07:22
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So the thing with Oklahoma is like, which I'm surprised that you're surprised about that because of where you live. They've never been able to beat like the top dogs.
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Oh, hate Oklahoma. I don't pay attention to Oklahoma.
01:07:29
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Well, that's yeah. But like, they've never been able to beat like the top dogs. Right. So they don't have all the natties, but they ran their conference, i.e. 13 national, 13 conference titles.
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conference titles. Yeah.
01:07:40
Jordan
And basically they were winning 10, 11 games for like years straight, like not even just like eight, nine, they were winning 10, 11 games, winning the conference. Link and Riley went to three consecutive playoff appearances. Bob Stoops went to the BCS. So like, yeah.
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i I'm shocked because I just don't pay attention to OU. like Like I said, i've had I had a personal like experience with OU fans that kind of like fully just turned me off of OU.
01:08:09
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Yeah.
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So, yeah.
01:08:10
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But the the other thing is they have two losing seasons and both of them are in the last three years.
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Yeah.
01:08:16
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So for 23, 22 years, they went 22 straight years without a losing season.
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They were dominating.
01:08:22
Jordan
And then they've had two of the last three.
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Well, period. I love that for them. but Apparently their women's basketball team is looking to ah elevate. So that's very interesting.
01:08:30
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And they have like the greatest softball program ever.
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Oh my God.
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Like, look, shout out.
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Their softball program is ridiculous. Speaking of softball, shout out to Texas tech. That $1 million dollars is working for them.
01:08:42
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This one is going to surprise you. And this is part of the reason I wanted i wanted to go through this. Number two, Alabama.
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I'm scared.
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Well, yeah, because number one is Ohio state, obviously.
01:08:52
Jordan
Yeah. Okay. I thought it may. Okay. So it doesn't matter. So Alabama, um, Alabama has 14 New York six bowls, six national titles, nine conference championships.
01:09:05
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They have 39 top 10 wins, which is number one. And, but they've had three losing seasons and you say, why are they number two and not number one?
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Yeah.
01:09:13
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It's essentially because this is for 25 years. And for the first couple of years, they were awful until Nick Saban got there in 2008.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And then they dominated from 2008 to 2025, whereas Ohio State has been dominant longer than that.
01:09:28
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Yes.
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So, yeah, that didn't shock me.
01:09:29
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Just without the, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so, boom. There's that. They have 39 top 10 wins, which is number one.
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The Ohio State.
01:09:36
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They have a 78% winning percentage, which is number four. Ohio State is number one. They have 20 BCS New Year's Six Bowl games, three national championships, nine conference titles, one losing season, and they have an 84% winning percentage.
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Yeah, y'all just win more. I mean, that's just what it that's just how it goes. Like, y'all just win more. That's why I was in shock because I'm like, Bama, the thing about Bama, I think people always perceive Bama to be the most dominant because they won so many natties, which is great.
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But Ohio State is winning a lot. They're just not always winning championships.
01:10:15
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Yes.
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That's the difference.
01:10:17
Jordan
So essentially, and so
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Which I don't know which makes – o
01:10:22
Jordan
Well, that's a good thing. So, and I'll just read the paragraph for Ohio State. Only one program has spent nearly the entire century competing at an elite level, and it's not Alabama, which was mediocre for six of the eight seasons before Nick Saban got rolling.
01:10:36
Jordan
Whereas Ohio State has only had five seasons out of 25, in which it's won fewer than 10 games, and one of those was an eight-game season in 2020, it's won three it's won three national championships, played for three more, and craziest foot craziest of all, it has been ranked in the top 25 in nearly 93% of the 411 polls since 2000.
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I mean, come on.
01:11:01
Jordan
And so I think this brings up an interesting conversation that I think Ohio State fans have. Would you rather be Ohio State where you always win but you average a national championship roughly one every 10 years?
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Every few years.
01:11:18
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Or would you rather be Bama where you have six or seven years where you're asked and then you have six, or or LSU is also in this.
01:11:28
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LSU is one of those teams that's very up and down.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:31
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Every LSU coach wins a national championship and then they suck for a few years and then they win one.
01:11:36
Jordan
Would you rather deal with the losing years And then you have like five, six, in Bama's case, like 12-ish years of just like absolute greatness. But then boom, as soon as Nick Saban lost, left, they missed the playoffs, they lose three, four games, they get upset.
01:11:52
Jordan
Or would you rather be consistent? You're always going to be one of the best teams, but you don't get the national championship as often as maybe others. And it's an interesting conversation. and I always kind of struggle with where I sit because like, yes, it would be nice.
01:12:07
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But also in my lifetime, Ohio State has played in six national championships and won three of them, and they had one losing season, and that losing season, it i don't remember when that losing season was.
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Probably towards the beginning, um I would imagine.
01:12:21
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that Yeah, I think it was towards the beginning. So it's like, don't know.
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i I'm going to answer this question thoughtfully.
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As ah Cowboys fan, I have a lot of experience with high hopes and loss, right? So for me, I think given my perspective of being a fan of a team that has not won a championship since the year that I was born,
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And probably won't win a championship for another probably five years.
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Hello?
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I have grown very happy with winning and just being a team that wins a lot. Like, realistically, I know that we speak very harshly about the Cowboys, but up until last season, we were winning 10, 11, 12 games a season.
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We were having good seasons. We were making it to the playoffs. We just weren't making it through the playoffs, right, which is a whole different issue. But the winning still feels good. So I think I would almost err on the side of,
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We win a lot. We win a lot.
01:13:20
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Yeah.
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No, we're not always going to win a championship every time we get there, but we win a lot. And I feel like I would be satisfied with that because to me, that is what true dominance is. Being the team that everybody's afraid of, being the team that is the one where you ah you're never going to count them out, you're never going to bet against them.
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I think I would rather be a part of that sort of culture than... Because realistically with Bama, and i don't I'm not saying this from a negative standpoint, I'm actually more so speaking from a math standpoint and law of averages, it's going to take some time for Bama to get back to the level of dominance that they have with Nick Saban, if they ever make it that to that point, because Nick Saban is a legend.
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He's one of the best to ever pick up a clipboard and say that he's going to coach football. So... Bama may not ever ah experience that sort of run ever again.
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And if they do, it's going to be off the back of the culture that was built from that run, if that makes sense. So I don't know. I would rather be a part of a culture that is accustomed to winning in general.
01:14:18
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And you want and i agree with you 100%. And you want to know how I know I agree with you? The Indianapolis Colts.
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Cause you're Colts fan. Exactly.
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When we had Peyton Manning, I literally pulled it up.
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Exactly. Exactly.
01:14:30
Jordan
Peyton Manning's first year, they went 3-13. They literally called him Peyton Manning because he the worst he did was most years. When the Colts had Peyton Manning, they went 3-13 his first year.
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Yeah.
01:14:40
Jordan
they had They went 6-10 in his fourth year. Every other year, 10-6, 12-4, 12-4, 14-2, 12-4, 13-3, 12-4, 14-2, 10-6. goes the Broncos, 13-3, 13-3, 12-4. Peyton Manning guarantees 12 You are 12 you are going into playoffs. thirteen and three twelve and four fortunate to ten and six he go to the broncos thirteen and three thirteen chain three twelve and four peyton mainning guarantee g twelve one
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and four.
01:14:59
Jordan
you were going twelve one and you were going into the playoffs he only In all of his time, he only has two Super Bowls, but you always contended. And now as a Colts fan who's not even making the playoffs, I would kill to average 11 to 13 games a year to just know you're going to be good, like to just know like we're going to be there.
01:15:13
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To have that again. Yeah. Yeah.
01:15:20
Jordan
And if and if our we play our cards right, it could be our year. And that's how it is as an Ohio State fan.
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yeah
01:15:26
Jordan
And, yes, the heartbreak hurt right when you win one and then you lose. two straight and then you don't always get there but you know it's 10 it's 11 games and and yeah as a Colts fan it's like I would do anything to get 12 and 4 back like we've like and the thing is like we're bad but we're never bad enough because now we're like 8 and 8 7 and 9 so we're getting like the 13th pick and rarely does the really does pick 13 to 18 change the franchise so it's like we're not getting the number one pick but we're not going to the playoffs and it's just like fucking purgatory so I agree
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Yeah, of course.
01:16:00
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It's like ass central right there in the middle. Because I would rather be, realistically, I'd rather be like one of the worst or one of the best. I don't want to be like in the middle where nothing is happening.
01:16:08
Jordan
Yes.
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We're not going to the playoffs.
01:16:11
Jordan
Because...
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We're not like, that would be like hell.
01:16:15
Jordan
i mean, think about it right?
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Like the plateau.
01:16:16
Jordan
The Houston Texans, they were one of the worst for a while. They ended up getting C.J.
01:16:19
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Yeah.
01:16:20
Jordan
Stroud, right? the Like, especially the Oklahoma City, they took their beatings, they took their weapons, and now they've
01:16:21
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Yeah.
01:16:30
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First playoff since 2016.
01:16:31
Jordan
maybe they're the favorite to win the championship. They have their MVP. They have their young core. Like you have all these things. And that's why like, I just want the Colts to tank. And like, this is a the totally,
01:16:43
Jordan
oh make I'm literally like football terrified because this year and next year are legitimately going to be great for quarterbacks.
01:16:55
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But again, it doesn't mean they're all going to be good, but this is going to be the best couple of years of quarterbacks that we've had in a long time.
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In a while.
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Yeah.
01:16:59
Jordan
And I'm,
01:17:01
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terrified that we're going to win like nine games and we're still not going to be sure about Anthony Richardson, but we're not going to be in the place to draft a good quarterback.
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Yeah.
01:17:10
Jordan
And like, I want, I like Anthony Richardson. I want him to succeed, but if he's not going to be good, please just be bad. Like, please, please.
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Don't win games. Yeah.
01:17:19
Jordan
Especially like RIP Jim Ursa, but we have a new owner. So if we're bad, we can get a new GM, we get a new coach, we get a new quarterback, and we can start fresh in 2026.
01:17:28
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We could, yeah, cut it. Yeah. Yeah.
01:17:31
Jordan
And I'm so terrified that fucking Daniel Jones is going to take us to like 9 and 8 something.
01:17:35
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This is going to be the one season.
NBA Finals Predictions and Timberwolves' Potential
01:17:38
Jordan
to make the playoffs and then we're going to at like pick 18 and all the quarterbacks are going to be gone and we're to be sitting there fucking twiddling our thumbs just like god no arts man i don't even like arts manning but peyton manning arts manning but like right like but francisco mendoza can we get lenora sellers can we get get i can we get patrick mahomes jr i take him he's not gonna be as good yeah you ever seen those jokes uh dylan rayola
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Bro.
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We'll take them.
01:18:01
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Who is Patrick Mahomes No.
01:18:06
Jordan
The quarterback for Nebraska, oh my God, have to send it to you. The quarterback for Nebraska, he literally, he's like a light-skinned, like, taller quarterback. And so he just copies Patrick Mahomes. He wears number 15. He got that weird-ass mohawk.
01:18:18
Jordan
He does Patrick Mahomes.
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Well, Patrick Mahomes cut it off because it's nappy.
01:18:20
Jordan
I know.
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Let's not forget.
01:18:21
Jordan
and know. Which brings me to another point, but he does, like, before games, he does Patrick Mahomes' warm-up, like his whole warm-up. And me and Dante were talking about it on the literally the last episode, and were like, okay, does he or does he not cut his hair now that Patrick Mahomes cut his hair?
01:18:38
Jordan
I'm to send you some videos so you can laugh about it, but yeah.
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That is so funny. Speaking of OKC, though, I don't think they're winning a championship this year.
01:18:45
Jordan
You think it's Indiana? Indiana?
01:18:47
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I think... I think... I think the championship winner is in the East, whether it's the Knicks or the Pacers, I think is still up for debate.
01:18:53
Jordan
Hmm.
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Cause I don't think that the Knicks are going to let the Pacers smack them up like this. um Even though they're up to Oh, yeah.
01:18:59
Jordan
And more.
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Like I don't think they're going to allow that to happen. And if they can win the two games in in Indiana, or at least one of those games in Indiana and take it back to New York, I think we're going to a game seven at that point. First of all, both of these Western, both of these conference finals are going to game seven.
01:19:13
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but But the thing about OKC is, OKC is too young to win a championship, number one. Number two, I also feel like when you play this well throughout the series, that's typically when things start to break down is around the finals.
01:19:28
Jordan
Oh. Oh.
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And also, I firmly believe that no team that is worth anything is winning a championship within their first year. There has to be an experience of almost like collective heartbreak first before they come out and actually win. That's why Boston won the way that they did because they experienced that collective heartbreak so many times.
01:19:47
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So I think OKC needs to have that one moment where it's like we made it to the mountaintop and we did not get there. And then they're going to come back the next year and just take over.
01:19:47
Jordan
and
01:19:54
Jordan
Yeah, which is interesting because I'm not counting out the Minnesota because Minnesota had that heart.
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Oh, me neither. Me neither.
01:20:00
Jordan
Minnesota had that heartbreak last year.
01:20:02
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They did. Exactly. They had the collective heartbreak. And then the thing about Minnesota, and this is what makes it so frustrating is with OKC being up 2-0, is the fact that Julius Randle is playing the best basketball that he's ever played in his fucking life.
01:20:15
Jordan
raise
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In his life. AE is having some weird stuff going on. He's had some ankle tweaks. He's had some... So I feel like he just hasn't been able to really get into the game the way he wants to. Rudy Gobert is having a good season. He's not fouling out and doing all the other extra stuff that sometimes usually happens with him.
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And then the other piece is... Why do I always want to call him Najee? That's not his name. Nas Reed, all the other guys.
01:20:35
Jordan
i
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So I feel like with the Timberwolves, once they're back home, OKC should be scared. OKC should be very, very scared.
01:20:42
Jordan
Yeah.
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so But either way, that's why I'm saying like I do think the champion is from the East this year. i don't think the champion is from the West because I also don't think either team is ready east in the West. i I don't. But I still to this day can't say, oh, it's going to be the Timberwolves and the Knicks.
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I don't know. I really don't know who it's going be right now.
01:20:58
Jordan
Yeah. i just I just hope it doesn't continue in this blowout fashion. ah Well, the Pacers isn't blowing.
01:21:04
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Yeah, it's getting...
01:21:06
Jordan
they Those games aren't blowouts. They're just up 2-0.
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They're catching up. Yeah, yeah.
01:21:08
Jordan
But yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
01:21:09
Jordan
um OK.
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Shout out to Tyrese Halliburton, man.
01:21:12
Jordan
Yeah, hooping. What the hell? What the hell, Burton? What the hell, Cyrus?
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Okay, thank you so much.
01:21:18
Jordan
What the hell, James?
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I'm going to get off the...
01:21:19
Jordan
Okay, so any...
01:21:20
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Oh, Lotto said, what the Missy Helly is? And that's when I was like, I have to check out of this.
01:21:24
Jordan
That's... Yeah. Do you have any last thoughts about the Top 25 program the 21st century, or shall we go to our two-minute warning and wrap it up?
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I wish SMU was in, I'm just kidding.
01:21:36
Jordan
but You know, next 25 You know...
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I'm kidding.
01:21:38
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Right, right, right, right, right. Next, the next 25 years. um No, that's dope. I love data crap like that. Like I'm a nerd in that way.
01:21:38
Jordan
you got you know
01:21:47
Jordan
Yeah, I've been reading all of them.
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So that's really, really dope.
01:21:49
Jordan
I mean, I even read the baseball one and I didn't like I have no opinion on baseball.
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Yeah.
01:21:53
Jordan
Because I watch enough to know what Yankees are doing, but I don't watch enough to be able to like, this is the best second baseman of the last 25 years.
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Yeah.
01:22:00
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What is the second baseman? sorry
01:22:00
Jordan
So i just i just i just i just read it I just read it to like read it just because I was like, twenty five top 25?
01:22:06
Jordan
Yeah. like I read all of the top 75 players stuff that the athletic was doing. I disagreed with a lot of it, but like everything. and then they
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Now I disagreed.
01:22:13
Jordan
And then and then they ah you like data, I may need to send this to you. don't you saw it. They did a GOAT debate, but they did it based on data alone.
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um my God. Yes.
01:22:21
Jordan
And then they ranked them.
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Send me that.
01:22:22
Jordan
That was interesting. So yeah. But okay. So two minute warning.
01:22:29
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You can go first. And then we're going to just end the show a negative note. think
01:22:33
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I know. Wait, no. Oh, God. Okay. So, because I have so many things to say about yours. Mine is very,
Basketball Shoe Discussion and Resale Market
01:22:38
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very simple. I was talking about this on the last show. Also, thanks for sticking with us, guys. We knew we took a week off because somebody was busy, um you know, celebrating his wife, obviously.
01:22:45
Jordan
yeah
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But anyways... I mentioned on the last episode that I was really, really determined to log on to that damn internet on May 6th and May 15th and get my damn A1s.
01:23:00
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And I got them. And I'm very, very excited about it. I went... um The first drop ah sold out in three minutes. So that was just not even something that I i was even going to be able to participate in. But the first drop was only for the pink A1s.
01:23:12
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ah The second drop, which was May 15th, was for the Pearls and the Indigo Girls. If you don't know what that is, it's the colorways. Pearl is all white. Indigo Girl is the ones that's like blue, all the different shades of blue. Um, I got Indigo Girl.
01:23:25
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shout out to my small feet. I had to, I got to get them in youth sizes because the adult sizes sold out, but the youth sizes were still available. So yeah, I got my shoes. I ordered them online. I picked them up at the Nike store. I've worn them once already.
01:23:36
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Great shoe. Honestly, no notes. It is a great shoe. I personally would not have been able to play basketball in them because i need shoes with ankle support. But if you like to play basketball in a low top shoe, I actually would genuinely suggest that you try out the A1s because they're a nice lightweight bouncy shoe.
01:23:52
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um that would really actually aid in performance because they feel like an extension of your foot. So if you are looking for, if you're on the market for a basketball shoe, I really actually do highly suggest the A1s.
01:24:03
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If you're on the market for a cute shoe to wear, you know, out to your summer parties, I also would suggest the A1s because I've gotten lots and lots of compliments. So I'm very happy. Thank you so much, Asia Wilson.
01:24:13
Jordan
Yes, shout out. I need to get a pair at some point, but I haven't spent money on shoes in a very long time, and it's heartbreaking. As you can see, the shoes behind me, and unfortunately for Aja Wilson, my next pair of shoes will not be hers.
01:24:20
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i haven't either, period.
01:24:25
Jordan
like i like I have some shoes that are deep down in my bag that I need to buy that I haven't gotten in a while.
01:24:26
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Oh,
01:24:30
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oh and yes.
01:24:31
Jordan
will be getting a pair for sure.
01:24:32
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The price point is $90 for the youth size and $110 for the adult size, which I think is pretty fair considering Nike prices. So if you're on the market for shoe, I highly suggest it. I also will say size down because I did have to take my shoes back because I got a five hundred five and a half in youth and it was too big. And I'm normally a five and a half in youth because that's a size six.
01:24:51
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um But ah had to size down. So be aware that the shoes weren't big.
01:24:57
Jordan
Yes. Okay. I'm going to take a deep breath.
01:24:59
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Period. Period.
01:25:01
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You should get yourself a pair of A1s though. So I would really love to know what shoe you're getting instead of an A1. Now we have to talk about that for just a moment.
01:25:01
Jordan
I
01:25:09
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I want to get the USC Jordans.
01:25:12
Jordan
i don't know what I'm getting, but I have...
01:25:15
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Okay.
01:25:16
Jordan
So here's the thing. It's going to depend on when I have the money for them because... There are a couple pairs of shoes that are coming out that I've wanted for a long time, like the taxi 12s. I have the reverse taxis, and they're stupid.
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Okay, I'm sorry. You're speaking a language I don't speak. ah Keep going.
01:25:37
Jordan
Okay.
01:25:38
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i'm just going to look them up.
01:25:38
Jordan
The taxis, are they're they're black and white 12s.
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Well, obviously. Oh.
01:25:43
Jordan
The reverse taxis, are you looking at the regular taxis?
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I don't know. Which one's the reverse ones?
01:25:47
Jordan
Where's the black at?
01:25:51
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It's all black. All black with touches of yellow. And then I see all white with a little bit of like black on the toe and touches of gold.
01:25:58
Jordan
ah
01:26:01
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Hold on. Oh, wait. There's... Oh, there's... So... Oh, I'm looking at the right ones. Because it's it's mostly white with black on the bottom, right?
01:26:06
Jordan
Okay, yes.
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Yeah.
01:26:07
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So those are the taxis.
01:26:08
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Okay.
01:26:09
Jordan
Okay. So the reverse taxis are you reverse it and has the white on the bottom, which is fucking stupid because it gets dirty.
01:26:10
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Okay.
01:26:17
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Dirty. Yeah.
01:26:18
Jordan
I bought the reverse.
01:26:19
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Yeah. yeah
01:26:20
Jordan
I bought the reverse taxis. because I wanted them and I needed a black shoe and I couldn't get the taxis. But it's just dumb because they're dirty and you can only clean 12 so much because of whatever's on the sole, like sometimes it flakes a little bit.
01:26:35
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Yeah, the the reverses are nice though.
01:26:36
Jordan
And so it's just, they are, but it's just dumb that the white's on the bottom. And so they just get dirty. And so like, I want the, so just ultimately it depends because there's a couple pairs of shoes that are coming out this year that if I have the money when they drop, I'll be getting those.
01:26:49
Jordan
If it's not, if I'm just getting regular shoes, um I need... I don't know. It just depends on what what it releases, but I will be getting those for sure.
01:26:56
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Yes.
01:26:59
Jordan
um Okay, so...
01:26:59
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Period.
01:27:00
Jordan
so
01:27:00
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One more thing. Down with the shoe resale market. Okay, StockX is...
01:27:05
Jordan
it's It's dying.
01:27:05
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Y'all yo deserve jail time.
01:27:06
Jordan
It's dying.
01:27:09
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For the resale prices of the A1s alone, you people deserve jail time.
01:27:12
Jordan
Yeah. You to know it's my favorite thing? ah You know, they try to gentrify shoes and it worked for a little bit. And then some of them were like, oh my God, why can I get these shoes in the shoe store? And it's like, because that's what's supposed to happen with shoes.
01:27:25
Jordan
I'm sorry, you didn't start buying shoes until hype beast culture. But like, I grew up when you can get Jordans and shoes.
01:27:31
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You went to the store and you stood in line.
01:27:31
Jordan
Like, and and the thing that killed me about the shoe selling culture was when it was like, where we're reselling dunks.
01:27:42
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Dunks for for 300 and $400
01:27:43
Jordan
like i like like but like Like, we're reselling Dunks. you lost but You lost your fucking mind. like That's when it's like, come on.
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Crack crack
01:27:53
Jordan
Come on. Like, OK, all right. The new the newest pair of ones, the UNC ones, cool, right right right right? The tax, cool, right? The the Gamma 13s or whatever, all right, fine.
01:28:04
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A hundred dollar pair of dunks A hundred dollar the pair dunks the black and white ones
01:28:04
Jordan
this case The Space Jam 11s, OK. Dunks?
01:28:08
Jordan
dunks
01:28:12
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Don't piss me off.
01:28:12
Jordan
I smack the shit out of everybody.
01:28:13
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Like, I smack the shit out everybody right now.
01:28:14
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Do not piss me off. Cause there's some special edition dunks too, right? Okay, fine.
01:28:18
Jordan
Yeah.
01:28:19
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You do the special edition.
01:28:19
Jordan
Most of them are ugly, but
01:28:20
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Cause I think there's like a yellow and gold one, a yellow and green one. That's for certain schools, whatever.
01:28:24
Jordan
yeah. Yeah, there's a there's ah Ben and Jerry's.
01:28:25
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Like, yeah, yeah.
01:28:26
Jordan
Like, there's some special ones.
01:28:27
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Like, okay, fine. But a regular degular ass black and white dunk.
01:28:30
Jordan
The way they did pandas, bro, that was so crazy. The pandas are the black and white ones. That's the ones you're talking about. The way they did the pandas, oh my god, bro.
01:28:37
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Yeah. Yeah. The pandas. I was just like, what the hell? Everybody deserves jail time. You guys are all horrible people.
01:28:42
Jordan
Straight to... Have you seen um Parks and Rec?
01:28:50
Jordan
Have you said at least seen the straight to jail? Like that that meme?
01:28:54
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Uh-uh.
01:28:55
Jordan
Okay, then you won't get it. But for the people who do get it, $200 dumps, straight to jail.
01:28:59
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Straight to jail.
01:28:59
Jordan
reselling re re it like the fact that ah The fact that forces are like now, straight to jail. state to jail immediately
01:29:07
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Do not pass go.
01:29:08
Jordan
like
01:29:08
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You don't get your $200.
01:29:09
Jordan
you
01:29:10
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Take your ass to jail and you don't get the roll doubles to get out either.
01:29:11
Jordan
yeah
01:29:13
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You got to pay to get out of jail.
01:29:13
Jordan
No.
01:29:15
Jordan
Look, I'm going to send you the meme so you know what talking about.
01:29:17
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Like.
01:29:18
Jordan
Okay, but let's wrap this up.
01:29:19
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Okay. Sorry. but Prison, honey.
01:29:20
Jordan
Oh, God, I'm going to try.
01:29:21
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Prison.
01:29:22
Jordan
Speaking of pretty. No, just
Controversial Comments and Racial Sensitivity
01:29:23
Jordan
kidding. It's not that bad, but close, close.
01:29:23
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now Speaking of who deserves to be in prison.
01:29:26
Jordan
um If you have listened to me, you know, you know for an absolute fact that I do not like RG3.
01:29:29
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Oh, no. Okay.
01:29:34
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Oh, my God.
01:29:35
Jordan
I have been saying it for years, and I would like to say again, i am never wrong just early.
01:29:35
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Can't stand him.
01:29:42
Jordan
There were people who, especially, just being true, if you weren't Black, you didn't fully understand the RG3 thing because so much of it was about how he was talking and the jokes that he would make and the things that he would say.
01:29:49
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understand.
01:29:59
Jordan
And my biggest thing is it like it's so inauthentic. I remember you in college. Speaking of the last 25 years, I remember you in college. I remember you in the NFL.
01:30:08
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Hello?
01:30:09
Jordan
I remember you before you had a mic. I know how you dress. I know you did your hair. I know how you talk. And then you got in that booth and that was not you. And it was so freaking pandering and borderline racist.
01:30:22
Jordan
Like, and i know black people can't be black, can't be, look.
01:30:23
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His jokes were never funny.
01:30:26
Jordan
It's just like, it's literally, it was a caricature. It was a caricature. It was a black dude who went up there and said, this is what a black person would talk like.
01:30:33
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Yeah.
01:30:34
Jordan
And so, yes.
01:30:34
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It's very Emmanuel Ochoa coded. Anyways, go ahead. Sorry.
01:30:39
Jordan
But, and so, didn't like him.
01:30:39
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Let me not talk about him. He's not a part of this.
01:30:43
Jordan
Been saying this for a while. And some people got it, some people didn't. And never wrong just early. Because now he is revealing himself in the worst way possible over Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese. Ryan Clark, I am a huge Ryan Clark fan. Ryan Clark is so, and I hate saying this because this is such a bad compliment for Black people, but I'm not saying that. He's so elegant, elegant, eloquent.
01:31:07
Jordan
He's like, I strive, as someone who talks in my job, who talks on a podcast, and who wants to be a professor, I strive to be half as good with my words as he is.
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Oh, Ryan Clark. He wraps stuff up so well.
01:31:19
Jordan
He always gets his point across in the...
01:31:22
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wow Great. Perfect. And his hair is...
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Oh,
01:31:28
Jordan
So, Ryan Clark...
01:31:31
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well, we got to start from the beginning.
01:31:31
Jordan
And and only... And only his way goes off on RG3 because RG3 has essentially for years been attacking Angel Reese on behalf of Caitlin Clark.
01:31:44
Jordan
The most recent thing that he did is he goes on his podcast with his white wife.
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No, he did something before that.
01:31:50
Jordan
No. What? What?
01:31:53
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So ah for WNBA opening weekend, of course, the first game of the year was ah Chicago Sky, Indiana Fever game because they're trying to force this rivalry that doesn't exist. Kaitlin Clark got a flagrant foul against Angel Reese.
01:32:04
Jordan
you
01:32:06
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Angel Reese was not very happy about the foul that occurred. And so she kind of bucked up to Kaitlin. There was a little bit of whatever and everybody moved on. They both said it was a basketball play. Let's not worry about it, blah, bla blah, blah. But as everybody knows, anytime something happens between Angel Reese and Kaitlin Clark, everybody's got to pull out their dissertation topics.
01:32:22
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Right after that happened, RG3 tweeted, and I quote, After watching Caitlin Clark's flagrant foul on Angel Reese and the aftermath, there's no way Angel Reese can continue to continued the lie that she doesn't like Caitlin Clark.
01:32:35
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I know what hatred looks like. Angel Reese HATES, in all caps, Caitlin Clark. Not some basketball rivalry here either. HATE. And he tweeted that the same day as the flagrant foul had happened, and that tweet received about 7 million views by the next day.
01:32:51
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And then Ryan Clark was responding to that because RG3 then decided to argue with other individuals on the internet as to why it was important that this flagrant foul was proof somehow that Angel Reese hated Caitlin Clark.
01:33:04
Jordan
Yeah.
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So he argued with Des Bryant.
01:33:06
Jordan
And then part of it.
01:33:06
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He argued with, je what's her name? Jamel Hill. He argued with a lot of people that day.
01:33:10
Jordan
Yep. And part of the thing that, especially the clip that I focused on that RC was talking about was an older clip um when when Angel was talking about how she is also one of the people who has helped contribute to the boom of women's sports, specifically the WNBA.
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Yes.
01:33:30
Jordan
And he goes on his podcast and Angel is just talking.
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Yes.
01:33:33
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just talking like me and you. And he goes on his podcast and he starts to add things. He adds tone. He starts doing his neck and pointing his finger and all of this stuff to make it sound aggressive and ghetto and all of these things, right?
01:33:41
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Mm-hmm.
01:33:46
Jordan
to And he has his wife is in the background and she's like clapping and all this stuff. And he's dogging Angel and doing all of this stuff, literally dog whistle so racism. Angel is not rolling her neck and all of these like these old stereotypes of black women.
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Mm-hmm.
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And if she was, that would be a perfectly fair expression.
01:34:03
Jordan
Right. So he's adding all of these things and and doing this finger pointing and like adding tone and stuff. And so Ryan Clark basically read him for filth. And and and basically the synopsis of what Ryan Clark is basically saying is you are a Black man who feels that he has to talk negatively about Black women to big up the choice that you made to have a white wife.
01:34:33
Jordan
you literally, you look at his Instagram, you look at his Twitter, you look at his jokes, you look at his Halloween costumes, his whole personality is milk. He, and one of the things that I like that Ryan Clark said, he's like, I've met your wife.
01:34:48
Jordan
I've had a conversation with her.
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She's a nice lady.
01:34:49
Jordan
I think that she's more than the color of her skin. And you refer to her as milk, posting memes talking about Super Saiyan, Milkman, or like, and he's like, and multiple people have said this, like when he worked at ESPN. He just kept emphasizing how much he likes milk and how important it is and all these things.
01:35:05
Jordan
And so you are going, you are, and he's like, because you have a white wife, you are not having conversations at home about what black women have to go through and racism and all of these sort of things. And so you come on this podcast and you you put her, it was like, you put your wife behind you as a part of your trophy case.
01:35:24
Jordan
You have all of your trophies and then your white wife. And doesn't even make sense that she's behind you while you're doing this podcast.
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Not at all.
01:35:29
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And you're talking and you're doing all these things. You're adding all this stuff and you keep attacking. And he's just like, and like he he was basically just like, I just want, I just need to know that no matter what he does, no matter what he says, he's always going to be as black as me.
01:35:40
Jordan
And so RG3 goes on this thing. He tries to get ESPN involved. He makes all this stuff. He's like, nobody talks about, you don't add another man's wife to it. He tried to play the victim while he is aggressively attacking Angel Reese on behalf of Caitlin Clark and white women everywhere. He then tries to play the victim and tries to make it this the whole thing that RG3, that Ryan Clark never said.
01:36:02
Jordan
And I just was never wrong just early. I'm glad that he's outing himself as the who I always thought he was. I'm glad that people are finally starting to see it because like, and I don't feel I need to say this, but to be clear, there is nothing wrong with interracial marriage, but whether you were dating someone white, black, Asian, East Asian, South Asian, Mexican, kindnna sprint whatever, if your entire reason for dating them is the color of their skin, that's weird.
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The weirdo.
01:36:26
Jordan
If you're like, I got me a light skinned girl with green eyes.
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That's fetishization.
01:36:29
Jordan
I got me milk. I got me this. I got me like fetishizing and it's insane. And then to take that and to make, sports opinions, quote unquote, and to put your hatred and your other things on Angel Reese, right? And to make her, as a Black woman who already has to deal with this, to make her seem more violent and angry, to use the word hate on a dark-skinned Black woman.
01:36:55
Jordan
and And to start it with talking about Angel Kaitlyn Clark's flagrant foul, Caitlyn's flagrant foul.
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Caitlyn fouled her.
01:37:04
Jordan
Caitlyn's flagrant foul. Not Angel's. Caitlyn's flagrant foul.
01:37:07
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Caitlyn. How does Angel still be the, how is Angel still the villain in that?
01:37:09
Jordan
And then to turn that on Angel. And so it's crazy. And the last thing I have to say about this before I get really worked up and start really talking about him is I saw something that just stuck to, and I wish that, hold on.
01:37:20
Jordan
I wish that I could like remember who said it, but it was so interesting to me. And they said, one of the worst things about RG3 and this thing with Angel Reese is that if there is any athlete in the last 10 to 20 years who should be able to relate with Angel Reese, it should be RG3 because RG3 was the black quarterback
01:37:34
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who knows what she's going through.
01:37:38
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Oh my God.
01:37:41
Jordan
who was denigrated, who was talk bad, who who who o they they said he couldn't play quarterback and he needed chains, not traditional, all of these racist dog whistles because he was going toe-to-toe with a white quarterback, a white player at the same position at the same time who people thought was better.
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Not traditional.
01:38:01
Jordan
And that player was Andrew Luck. And so a lot of racists jumped out the woodwork to hate on RG3 to prop up Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck was the better quarterback, but RG3 was great.
01:38:12
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was good.
01:38:13
Jordan
He was good. And they did the racist dog whistle.
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He was fantastic.
01:38:16
Jordan
He's black. He can't, oh, he doesn't have the processing power. He should play wide receiver. All of these things, right? And so you of anyone, you did the same thing. A black player, a white player, similar sport,
01:38:30
Jordan
At the same time, same draft class, and every time they talked about the black player, they made them angry, and they talked about their skill, and they couldn't do this, and they couldn't do that, and they hyped up the white player.
01:38:42
Jordan
And you experienced that more than anyone directly with Andrew Luck. And so then for you to turn around after you, and he's like, it just tells me that RJ3 forgot where he came from.
01:38:53
Jordan
For you to go...
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I don't think he knows. Fuck forgetting.
01:38:55
Jordan
And then to immediately turn around and do the same thing to someone else, is it's insane for any Black man to do it, but for RG3, who legitimately went through this same thing for years,
01:38:56
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I don't think he's aware.
01:39:08
Jordan
That is insane. And is I would say it's disappointing, but it's not because I knew who he was. Never wrong just early. I do not like him. I never want to see him on my TV again. i hope he never gets a job again. And I hope one day his white wife realizes that he doesn't like her and only likes the fact that she's white and leaves him and takes him for half.
01:39:26
Jordan
That's fucking insane.
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So here's where I'm at on it. I am just genuinely confused when people have discourse about Angela and Caitlyn, that's not productive.
01:39:42
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Like at this point, okay? Cause we're three years into this fake rivalry. What were you trying to accomplish by tweeting that specific, that specific thing? What were you trying to accomplish?
01:39:53
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Because he also was trying to defend himself in his podcast and say, oh, I'm just giving my sports opinion. There was nothing about sports in that. There was nothing about the game of basketball when you are implying that someone hates someone else. Cause I want to be clear.
01:40:08
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Making the implication that either one of these women hate each other when they have very clearly told us that they do not hate each other is to me at this point you are stoking a fire that you know is going to get you clicks and views.
01:40:21
Jordan
Yes.
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Because it has been made very clear that they don't have any animosity towards one another.
01:40:23
Jordan
um
01:40:27
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They're just competing with each other. I also really feel like this conversation is continuously getting this disingenuous because they play two different positions, which is why, for me, you will never be able to convince me that this is a rivalry that is based on anything other than racism. Because that's the other thing that we have to be so very, very cognizant of, is that this particular rivalry much like Magic and Larry, because people make this comparison for a lot of reasons, but they rarely ever make it for this one, that rivalry was also built on racism.
01:40:54
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Okay?
01:40:55
Jordan
I mean, they literally called him the Great White Hope.
01:40:55
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It was... Thank you. That rivalry was also built on racism, just as much as it was a skill thing and they played similar positions and all those other things. That rivalry was very heavily built and pushed on racism, and that is the same thing that is happening. And the unfortunate part of it is that it's built on racism and misogynoir. It's built on both, because these are women.
01:41:14
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So... At this point, as a person in the media, it is incredibly irresponsible to indicate anything about those women's personal feelings towards one another because you know people are going to latch on to that and just take it as far as they fucking can. Caitlin Clark's fan base has shown us that they are the most unhinged fan base that we have seen since the barbs.
01:41:34
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Okay? So with that being said, tell me what about that was an actual sports opinion. That was not an actual sports opinion.
01:41:41
Jordan
And if you were going to make a sports opinion based on the video, the only thing that you could say is that Caitlin Clark hates Angel Reese. as the like that was not And they both said the right thing.
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That would be a better conclusion, which I also don't like.
01:41:53
Jordan
yeah
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We need to stop saying that these women hate each other.
01:41:54
Jordan
but And it's wrong. it's it It's very wrong. But if you were going to say anything, that would be the one. Because the thing is, they both said it's a basketball play because they knew if they said anything different, how it would blow up.
01:42:03
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The internet. Yes.
01:42:04
Jordan
But it wasn't a basketball play.
01:42:06
Jordan
It was retaliatory.
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No, it was a flagrant foul.
01:42:07
Jordan
It was retaliatory.
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It was a flagrant foul.
01:42:09
Jordan
But no, no, no. Not even that it was a flay or foul.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah.
01:42:11
Jordan
Legitimately retaliatory.
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Retail trial on Caitlin's part. Yeah.
01:42:13
Jordan
Because Angel, and ah in a basketball move, pushed someone to get a rebound. It wasn't called.
01:42:19
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Mm-hmm.
01:42:20
Jordan
Could have been a hand to the back. It wasn't called. And Kate saw her grab the ball, looked at her teammate, and ran at her and found her.
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Mm-hmm.
01:42:27
Jordan
It was retaliatory.
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And Felder.
01:42:28
Jordan
It wasn't in the eye the last game.
01:42:28
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Yeah, which is the same thing, by the way, that Kennedy Carter did to her the year prior. Okay, if we want to keep it real, because i am very, very sick and tired of the overall narrative being that Caitlin Clark is walking onto these basketball courts. It is completely innocent in everything that she does.
01:42:45
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That is absolutely impossible. And I really implore you to go and actually watch that girl play basketball. She plays very violently and she gets a whistle like I have never seen in my life.
01:42:53
Jordan
And that's totally fine. That is totally fine.
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But she does. is That's the point I'm saying is she does not know. She's a shooter. she don't know how to play defense. I'm just going keep a real. You know, another shooter who's really great doesn't know how to play defense. He just learned. Steph Curry, okay? A lot of the good shooters cannot play defense.
01:43:08
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Caitlin Clark doesn't play defense. She just slaps hoes. That's what she does. So, also, I want to be clear because I am, I do have context on this. The player that Angel Reese pushed, was Natasha Howard.
01:43:19
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Natasha Howard had been hacking at Angel and Camilla the entire game. But for some reason, when people walk into a fever, into the fever stadium specifically, their whistle is diabolical. I've never seen it in my life.
01:43:32
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Their whistle is crazy. So when I say Natasha was pushing hoes over, moving screens, slapping arms, pushing in the back, pushing, she was doing it all game.
01:43:44
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So when Angel pushed her in the back, I'm not trying to be funny, but that that was par for the course of the physicality that had been established in that particular game. Yeah, don't get me in my bag because I will.
01:43:52
Jordan
Listen.
01:43:53
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That was already established in that game that that was a level of physicality that Natasha Howard specifically was playing with. And at the end of the day, Caitlin Clark, you don't have a striped jersey on. You have on a red jersey that says fever across it. You are not an official. If they don't want to call something, you don't get to look at them crazy and be mad and then force them to call what you want to them to call. You don't get to do that.
01:44:13
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And that's why you got a fucking flavor one, because you're doing too fucking much. Sorry, you're doing too fucking much. If she didn't get called for that foul, who are you to then go and potentially injure her by pushing her over like that?
01:44:24
Jordan
Right. Yeah.
01:44:25
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Because the physicality of the game was very, very high. The refs weren't calling much of anything. So if they didn't want to call that push in the back on Natasha Howard because they felt like that was not something worth calling, who the fuck are you? but to But to be a coon and come on the internet and say, oh well, actually, this proves that Angel Reeds hates Caitlin Clark. gonna knock them ugly glasses off your fucking face, dude. What are you talking about?
01:44:45
Jordan
yeah
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Especially when you know...
01:44:47
Jordan
here
01:44:48
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Angel Reese is going to get hate regardless. That's the that's the other thing. Angel Reese is going to get hate regardless because people are racist and weird and they're using her as a target for their racism.
01:44:58
Jordan
har
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Why would you as a black man come on the internet and make a black woman more vulnerable? That makes no sense.
01:45:07
Jordan
at all.
01:45:08
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And honestly, I live for the internet because The thing about Ryan Clark is Ryan Clark is having a conversation that is going over a lot of people's heads. And that's why people are mad because Ryan Clark understands nuance and he speaks with a lot of it.
01:45:20
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So a lot of people were looking at it like he's talking about RG3's wife. No, no, no, no, no. He's talking about the nuance of being a self-hating black person, which is what RG3 is.
01:45:27
Jordan
yes and and
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And he's talking about.
01:45:31
Jordan
And he's talking like, speaking about nuance, there's a couple pieces that people are ignoring, right?
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go ahead.
01:45:38
Jordan
He's ignoring the piece where he says, again, I've met your wife. I think she's a nice person. She is more than the color of her skin.
01:45:45
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than her skin.
01:45:47
Jordan
That is defending her. And then he's talking about the fact that you have her in the back of your video in front of your trophy case. Like, she is a trophy.
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Trophy.
01:45:59
Jordan
Like we've never heard the term trophy wife, which is not a compliment to the woman ever.
01:46:05
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At all, at all.
01:46:07
Jordan
So in all of this, he is still, he is defending and putting more concern into RG3's wife than RG3 is because all he does is talk about her and call her milk as an accomplishment that he was able to get a white woman.
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that
01:46:18
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And objectify her. my God. And it's like, that's what's so frustrating is now he wants to act like a victim now and say that Ryan Clark brought his family into it.
01:46:31
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You brought your family into it by having her sitting behind you when she wasn't offering anything to the conversation. She was just sitting there. So you brought her, you brought this into this situation. Ryan was only speaking directly.
01:46:40
Jordan
And nobody does, no one does podcasts with anyone sitting behind them. no one does that.
01:46:44
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In the back. Are you joking? Ryan Clark was just saying the quiet part out loud.
01:46:46
Jordan
Like...
01:46:48
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And because you don't have the understanding because you're fucking sick as fuck, you don't have the understanding of what Ryan Clark is operating on a higher vibration. And what's irritating is Ryan Clark did, unfortunately, have to have to.
01:47:00
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submit an apology to RG3. It just broke about three hours ago that he did apologize to him for speaking about his wife. And I'm sorry, i don't think he needs to apologize.
01:47:07
Jordan
I wouldn't have apologized.
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I don't think he needs to fucking apologize because he didn't say anything overwhelmingly negative about RG3's wife. But I guess the way that it turned out is that it turned into a lot of hate going towards RG3 and his family. And so he's more so apologizing that he made them a target.
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But
01:47:24
Jordan
i I still wouldn't issue the apology because RG3 hasn't apologized to the Angel.
01:47:29
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And that's the thing. I'm like, you didn't, you'd have victimed so hard that you got an apology out of this man and you still a bitch at the end of the day.
01:47:37
Jordan
And RG3 made me agree with Stephen A because Stephen A
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Sorry.
01:47:40
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Don't ever make me agree with Stephen A.
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Oh my.
01:47:42
Jordan
Stephen A.
01:47:42
Jordan
was talking about, he's like, you knew what you did when you put ESPN into that. Because he was talking about that on his own podcast.
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Thank you.
01:47:49
Jordan
And you know you got fired at ESPN. And you worked at ESPN. And you know how ESPN don't pay attention to none of them nothing that's going on until their name is brought in. in And so now ESPN has to look and be like, oh, what is what's wrong for our brand?
01:48:03
Jordan
our brand So you not only did that, you dog whistled another black man to his employer on his own private entity to try to get him in trouble.
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It's just ghetto all the way around. And honestly, it's and ah so I was on the internet, obviously, when this is happening. So I'm not going lie. The internet is, there's some moments on the internet that are top tier.
01:48:24
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One of my favorite moments on the internet was when old boy was getting was knocking folks out with a chair at the at the boat You know I'm talking about?
01:48:30
Jordan
yeah
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That's one of my favorite times on the internet. That was a good time.
01:48:32
Jordan
yep
01:48:33
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That day after Ryan Clark talked about the milk jokes and the internet kept pulling up old RG3 tweets about milk.
01:48:39
Jordan
all of them literally they're everywhere almost almost anytime he talks about his wife like just random stuff like like literally like super
01:48:41
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the The internet is such a great place to be. so
01:48:48
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No, he literally was holding his baby and was like, oh, she doesn't want chocolate milk today or something like that. I'm like, ew, shut up.
01:48:53
Jordan
Yeah. Like freaking bros talking about like, but like Super Saiyan Milkman, like, all it's just weird. It's weird. And then you take this platform as a black man and you go and you don't talk about her game.
01:49:06
Jordan
you don't talk about her as a basketball player. You add emotion and and and and the finger pointing and add tone and anger and all of these things to something that didn't happen.
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ah b s
01:49:19
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It's so unfortunate. And I hate this so bad for both Angel and Caitlin. Honestly, I hate it more for Angel.
01:49:25
Jordan
Yes.
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But these are two young women.
01:49:27
Jordan
Because at the end of at the end of the day, Caitlin is not doing enough to speak out against this.
01:49:29
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oh go ahead.
01:49:35
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Oh my gosh. Okay. We're going to be here for another 20 minutes because I was just talking to my best friend about this. I'm like, I'm at a point, don't even know if i want to say this on the internet yet, but I'm at a point where she's complicit at this point.
01:49:48
Jordan
Silence is always complicit.
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It's been, it's been three years.
01:49:50
Jordan
and it's It's not, it's not out of silence is always complicit. I'm sorry, if your homeboy's beating the fuck out of his girlfriend and you're not doing anything, you're allowing it, right?
01:49:56
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You're not saying anything. You're a part of it. And I just can't,
01:49:58
Jordan
Like, silence is complicit.
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I just can't believe, because my my my friend, he goes, you know, i'd be crazy if Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese were actually like besties and they're like on FaceTime every night, like, girl, you see this crazy stuff, whatever, blah, blah, blah.
01:50:08
Jordan
They could never be.
01:50:10
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And I said, the only reason why I have a hard time believing that is because I have a hard time believing that Angel would be friends with someone who would allow their fan base to treat her like that. And I'm not sitting here saying that Caitlin Clark has control over her fans.
01:50:22
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I'm not saying that.
01:50:23
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But to me, if what she says. And the amount of times that, and people have said, oh, well she said that she doesn't like her name being used that way. Yeah. And a sit down interview with time and on my next guest with David were Letterman, no one's watching that.
01:50:23
Jordan
but she has control over what she says and what she allows in her name.
01:50:37
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When you are standing in press on the practice court and they are asking you about it, that is when you stand there and you say, it is absolutely deplorable to use my name in that way. I do not like that. I do not appreciate it.
01:50:48
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I do not want my fans speaking about Angel in that way. It's not fair. She has not said anything like that in the press.
01:50:52
Jordan
and you and you And you do it every time you get the chance to.
01:50:57
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And you do it every time. Every chance that you get, you tell them you don't like that shit.
01:51:00
Jordan
Because, you know,
01:51:02
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And the fact that you have not done that and you buddy, buddy, best friends with Dave Portnoy, who is famously known for calling Angel a piece of shit. Fuck you. I'm so sorry. Because there's no way that you just don't agree with it, but you have nothing to say about it, too.
01:51:13
Jordan
here's the thing, right?
01:51:16
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That means you she's the girl is from Iowa. So, ciao.
01:51:23
Jordan
Caitlin Clark is not the only white WNBA player. You know, whose name doesn't get used like that? Paige Beckers.
01:51:30
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Sabrina Onescu, Stewie, Sue Bird, Diana Taurasi, Elena Deladon,
01:51:30
Jordan
You know, whose name doesn't get used like that? Do we, you know, whose name doesn't get used like that Kelsey Mitchell, super Diana Taurasi, Megan Rapinoe. If we want to switch sports, right. ah Like, like, um, uh, uh, Cam Brink's name doesn't get used like that.
01:51:46
Jordan
They're in the same draft class.
01:51:47
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Kelsey Plum,
01:51:48
Jordan
Like, uh, uh, uh, Lexi Hall just had disgusting rumors about her, but it's never about race. It's like, why always Caitlyn?
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Sophie Cunningham. Well, Sophie Cunningham is MAGA Barbie, but we ain't going to into that right now.
01:51:58
Jordan
And the thing is, right?
01:51:59
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It's
01:52:00
Jordan
so why is it always calin it's like and and the thing is right
01:52:04
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because she lets them.
01:52:06
Jordan
And it's as simple as that. It's because they feel like she agrees with them, whether she does or not. I won't put that on her. But they feel like she agrees with them and that it they allow it to happen.
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I'm putting it on her.
01:52:18
Jordan
Because if you would do that in the name of Cam Brink, you would do that in the name of Stewie, if you would do that in the name of Megan Rapinoe and Sue Byrd and Diana Taurasi, if you in the name of Paige, they're all going to say something.
01:52:25
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If you do it on the name of Paige, Paige ain't finna let you do that shit.
01:52:31
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They're all going to be like, get the fuck out of here. You do not know what you're talking about. And that's why for me, I'm like, this is what's going to make me not fuck with Caitlyn. And it's going to be because you're not being strict enough on these people.
01:52:43
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And I said this on the internet last last year. People were like, no, she said something. Y'all just aren't paying attention.
01:52:47
Jordan
Silence is complicity.
01:52:48
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That's the problem. If she really said something for real, for real, and she was aggressive about it, and she was like, do not use my name this way, it would be all over the internet.
01:52:49
Jordan
Also,
01:52:56
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It would be on every single news platform.
01:52:56
Jordan
ah
01:52:58
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If she really stood up and said, do not do that.
01:53:01
Jordan
As someone who watched the full video, the one clip where she said it at the practice court where they're talking about it, she was asked four times by a Black reporter who would not let her ignore it.
01:53:13
Jordan
That's the thing. They clipped the final time when she was clearly frustrated and she said, i don't like it to my name like that.
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And she finally answered it.
01:53:20
Jordan
He asked the question four times, four different ways, and she ignored it every time. He forced her to say it.
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To answer. She also said recently, i want to be very clear because I pay attention to the words that the young lady says. She said it has no place in this game. She didn't say she didn't like it or she didn't she didn't want it to happen.
01:53:38
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and then're like She just said it has no place in the game.
01:53:40
Jordan
oh
01:53:41
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And that is a very, very specific choice of words that I feel like we're not paying enough attention to. If we want to break down every single thing that Angel Reese says, I'm paying very close attention to what she said. She said it has no place in the game, which is true.
01:53:52
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It has no place in the game. But she didn't nothing about society. She didn't say nothing about herself.
01:53:56
Jordan
Life.
01:53:58
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She didn't say nothing about nothing. She just said it has no place in the game, which lets me know her boyfriend, her brother, her daddy, everybody.
01:54:01
Jordan
Didn't say nothing about her boyfriend and her father. Liking the tweets, retweeting them, all that stuff.
01:54:07
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Thank you. So with that being said, you will agree. Because even Beyonce herself, Beyonce herself, who never talks to us, addressed the beehive. You remember when she went to a Lakers game and she looked at that lady crazy and the beehive was sending death threats to her?
01:54:22
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I don't know if you know, there was a point where be Beyonce went to a basketball game. She was sitting courtside. There was a lady who was sitting next to her. I don't remember what she did, but Beyonce looked at her crazy and the beehive did too much. And the lady ended up getting off the internet. She, like cause they figured out who she was. They doxed her. They did all these things. Beyonce herself said, what you're not going to do is that.
01:54:22
Jordan
no
01:54:42
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So if Beyonce can come off her throne and talk to these crazy people and tell them to chill out and stop using her name to be hateful, you, Caitlyn Clark, lady who runs around with an orange piece of rubber, can do the same thing.
01:54:55
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And I'm just going to leave it like that.
01:54:58
Jordan
Never wrong, just early. RG3 has showed himself. I was never going like him, but I'm glad that other people are finally seeing it in other ways.
01:55:09
Jordan
um And I can tell.
01:55:11
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I was never gonna like if they're
01:55:12
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me i can't stand
01:55:14
Jordan
You can always tell with these people. You can always tell.
01:55:17
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I can't stand those types of guys. I'm not saying everybody who's black has to be like pro-black, obsessed in love with our blackness, but like you are never gonna convince me that I need to respect somebody who acts like that in regards to it.
01:55:26
Jordan
question but here's but but here's the thing know who else has a white wife? SGA. You know what he just did?
01:55:36
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That was new. I just found that out two days ago.
01:55:38
Jordan
You know what he just did? He talked glowingly of his wife, right?
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Oh, it was so sweet. I wanted to cry. It was so sweet.
01:55:43
Jordan
But you know what he didn't do? He didn't say, my white wife helped me win this MVP and another black woman wouldn't He didn't say none of that.
01:55:54
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None of that.
01:55:54
Jordan
He said, I've been with you for whatever.
01:55:56
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I've loved you. You showed me where real love is. You supported me. who who but All these things because that was a man that loved the woman that he's married to and that's it.
01:56:03
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Period.
01:56:04
Jordan
He happens to be black.
01:56:05
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I didn't know his wife was white literally until two days ago.
01:56:06
Jordan
see I didn't know if he was married.
01:56:07
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I was like, oh, huh?
01:56:09
Jordan
I didn't know you' was married, to be honest with you.
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I don't know who he married either, honestly. i I didn't know he had a kid.
01:56:11
Jordan
But like...
01:56:12
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I didn't know really anything about him. I just only knew him for basketball. But shout out to him and his wife. And his wife plays basketball as well. I don't know if she plays professionally, but...
01:56:20
Jordan
Yeah. I think she played. I think they played growing up and maybe she did in college a little bit, but I don't think she plays anymore.
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Yeah.
01:56:27
Jordan
But yeah, so fuck RG3.
01:56:28
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Anyways.
01:56:29
Jordan
We'll catch you next week.
01:56:30
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Oh, okay.
01:56:31
Jordan
so You also also have to end the show.
01:56:34
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Oh my goodness. um Fuck racism. That's what I'm going to say. Just fuck it all. like Truly, it's too late in the game to still be even on that shit. And especially over sports. It's just not even worth it. It's not necessary. There's no place for it in the game, out of the game, off the court, on the court.
01:56:51
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There's just no place for it in all of the sports. like I just wish that we could be more serious as a society. So that's going to be my last little note on that.
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Also enjoy Memorial Day, which is the day that you're listening to this. Hopefully you had some barbecue.
01:57:08
Jordan
Yes.
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Hopefully you had a little beans. Oh my gosh, we should end on that note. What grilled item are you looking forward to for Memorial Day?
01:57:20
Jordan
I don't know if I'm grilling. Actually, I'm not grilling because we're going to the beach. We're going to the beach and there's not a grill at the beach.
01:57:25
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Oh, that sounds fun.
01:57:26
Jordan
so But the first thing that you can't always grill at the beach.
01:57:28
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Had to get you a little portable grill.
01:57:32
Jordan
think can grill at the beach New Jersey.
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Oh, I don't know.
01:57:34
Jordan
Because I've asked.
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I've never been.
01:57:35
Jordan
I've asked.
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Yeah.
01:57:37
Jordan
But the first the first the thing that I'm always most excited for of the season is spicy Italian sausage.
01:57:43
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Oh, yes, you are a sausage guy. We did talk about this. I'm going to
01:57:46
Jordan
Pause! No, I'm just kidding.
Grilling Plans and Festive Celebrations
01:57:49
Jordan
just yes
01:57:49
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pause.
01:57:50
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I am going to my ah sister's house, my oldest sister, my brother-in-law. He is the griller of the family. So he's doing all the things. He's doing salmon and hot dogs and burgers and chicken and all the things.
01:58:02
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So I am very much, I love a burnt weenie. That's like my favorite thing. Give me a nice burnt hot dog. I always have to start with a burnt hot dog. And then I'm a ribs girly. So I'm looking forward to the ribs very much so.
01:58:13
Jordan
Yes, I'm also looking forward to ribs because I need to perfect them. Last year was the first year that I made ribs. They were good, but I burnt them a little bit. not wrong with burnt ribs, but like, they're just a little bit.
01:58:24
Jordan
Like, they weren't inedible, but they were,
01:58:25
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Because it can make them tough. Yeah.
01:58:27
Jordan
yeah So that's the thing.
01:58:27
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Yeah.
01:58:28
Jordan
They weren't tough, though. They were just, I also think it was like it was a mix of like, the ribs were a little skinny. So like, where it was thicker, it was fine. But then on the end, it was a little burnt. And so it could have got some, but it was some things. But um'm I'm excited to just,
01:58:44
Jordan
continue to do more on the grill, especially ribs.
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Try again. Yeah.
01:58:47
Jordan
I hope to have my ribs perfected by this summer. Yeah.
01:58:51
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So you can take, have it for July 4th, period. Because it's just a reason for us to grill.
01:58:53
Jordan
yeah Although I, you know, yeah.
01:58:56
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Juneteenth. Actually, no. Juneteenth.
01:58:58
Jordan
Well, I'm going to a Liberty game on June My best friend's coming up. So, um but yeah, so that's that's all.
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Oh, cute. Yes.
01:59:05
Jordan
But happy Memorial Day to those who celebrate. Happy Cookout Day, part one. for those who celebrate that. And
01:59:15
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We gave you two whole hours. Y'all are welcome.
01:59:16
Jordan
yeah, we'll see you next time.