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Speaker: c**t face, just when you thought bad words were taboo, buddy, everybody's saying the R word, everybody's saying the F word, and and by F word I mean fat Mm-hmm.
Speaker: You know, the right-wing manosphere is unleashing a new comedic freedom that I think we... be We need it. We need it? We should embrace.
Speaker: No, it's starting to seem boring now. You know, was fun when it was taboo. You and I have been ahead of the curve. Now, we were taking risks early. We were talking shit early. We called out how ah some of the left-wing pronoun stuff was maybe a little little heavy-handed. We called it out.
Speaker: Over-policing little bit, too Yeah, we've we've said the words. Not afraid. We weren't afraid to say. In the right context, of course. But now everybody's coming out like they have permission to say whatever the fuck they want.
Speaker: And I think it's funny. Are you worried? I'm not worried. It's starting to be boring to me. So I'm trying to figure out what's our next angle. Is our next angle politeness? Is that where the comedy comes from? Or should we start saying.
Speaker: Does that feel good? is that what we should be doing? Or should we so we yeah maybe think a little more? I'm not sure. I doubt, I don't know what's what, it so first of all, what's the right word for what we used to say, retarded?
Speaker: i don't even think Down syndrome is correct. ah Special needs. Yeah, but that's just like, special needs is is it is what I would use like when I'm cracking on someone.
Speaker: They used to say special. Right. No, but there is a new word for for Downs, retarded, I thought, but maybe I'm wrong. i had I had an uncle who was who identified as, he wasn't actually, but he decided he wanted to identify as a Down syndrome person, and I let him, you know?
Speaker: I haven't thought about it. That was a joke, bro. He didn't identify. He was Down syndrome. How about joke first, then question? Well, here's my point, though.
Speaker: Let me bring her back. we we look We lump all this shit together. And it's like, okay, a retarded person is probably not offended if you call him retarded. Most likely he's not that worried about it.
Speaker: Maybe a a gay person is offended if you call him a f*****. how have you Have you ever walked up to an actual gay person and in a mean way been like I hear gays calling each other that all the time.
Speaker: Like, it's it's almost like maybe it's a deering. I don't know. But it's just like, hey, what's up, f*****? He's too f*****gy. I heard you hear like... um Like gay people on, I've heard on podcasts use the term like it's it's a little f***y or something, which is fine.
Speaker: You've heard that? I haven't heard that. I have. and was ah It was a comedian. It was like, who was it? Or maybe it was a, don't It was entertainer. can't remember comedian. He was just like. he was They were like looking at shit and he was like, yeah, total it, right? Like a look or something like that.
Speaker: And it was fine. was just saying, and like everybody seems to be using it for stuff, not just like the crazy right wing thing. i and but it But back to my other my joke, it's like a different different thing, right?
Speaker: kind of a different thing. it's not all the same. Gender slang, special needs slang, like derogatory. Yeah, you give so you give yourself permission to say those things. You're not worried about it.
Speaker: I do. I give myself permission. Well, I'm not worried about it, but it doesn't mean I'm walking around dropping F bombs, as you said, and calling people, you know, I mean, that's probably not true. I do. I, we probably, we should come clean. We we would, we wouldn't hit each other with that in a private conversation.
Speaker: All the time, we mess with each other with all kinds of things. But it's just because that's the it's the hook of the taboo nature of it. Calling each other an a**, which is what black people call each other.
Speaker: call we don't We don't ever spell it out, but we might abbreviate with a capital a**, and we like to call each other that. We are those people that like to do stupid shit.
Speaker: We might call each other an a**. And actually spell it out because it's funny. If you're afraid anybody ever saw ah conversation between a real friend, like a chat conversation, if anybody ever saw that, you'd be toast. Then that means you have a real friend.
Speaker: Does it also mean maybe you should think about what you're saying? Like if you're afraid that somebody would look at it, then you probably shouldn't be saying it. No, I just think that there should be a place for us to experiment with ah the no-nos, with the taboos, and not hurt anybody's feelings with it.
Speaker: Now, I think people go back and when there was that trend where everything was gay, and gay meant sort of stupid and dumb and lame, really kind meant lame. It meant lame. It meant lame, and that got repudiated, and everybody said, we can't do that anymore, and I'm not going to argue with that.
Speaker: I'm not going around anymore using that word in that way. Between us on our chat, we might say that to each other because that's nostalgic between us, but we're not.
Speaker: We're not going around saying it, but but there is a new trend of pushing the envelope in that direction again and saying those things. And for example, here's the greatest news headline today.
Speaker: Our Secretary of Defense are is going to wipe off the name of Harvey Milk, which was the gay civil rights activist. There's a movie about him, eh? Yeah. Sean Penn, who was in the Navy, by the way, that guy.
Speaker: And he's gonna take his name off of a ship in the in the Navy. His name's on ah on the ship. Why? Because he was gay and he thinks that the military should have a warrior ethos.
Speaker: That is way worse than walking around and calling people fat. But I will call, you know who I will call a fat is Pete Hegseth. Pete Hegseth. Who's that? He's the Secretary of Defense that Trump hired from Fox News.
Speaker: But aren't you missing the point there if you are using it because you hate that guy? Yeah, but he's straight. So that makes it funny. Right. I don't know why. I don't have a good stereotype for you.
Speaker: But if I was using the stereotype that you were and being like, oh, this guy's a piece of shit. He's a... Yes, it's a good argument. He acts like a pussy who retired at 48.
Speaker: You'd be like, well, I don't, you bet you wouldn't care. You'd think it's funny, but. No, it's that's a good argument. should i Should I use that as a derogatory term term towards a straight homophobic guy? um From a comedic perspective, yes.
Speaker: what I would say to Pete, whatever his name was, what's his name? Heck, Seth, I can't believe you don't know this guy is. This tells me you don't live in this country. man but the But, ah I mean, i where do I go with that? I immediately go, he's a down low brother. fra If he's that hardcore anti-gay, I'm like, ah he probably is gay.
Speaker: He's living on the down low. Yeah. he's he's I mean, that's a me where I go. So when you're like, he's a faggot, I'm like, well, I would say he probably is. Not in the slang. ah like there's I mean, what a waste of time like get like going through what you need to to get that that thing taken care of, to get the name off the boat or whatever, or ship.
Speaker: But yeah, I mean, there's probably a reason why he's that intense. So I mean, maybe i'm being more even it's even worse, what I'm saying, than what you did. I don't know. i don't know. I don't really care at that level because offending people has never been a primary driver of of my thought process. But i I would look at, to your point, an action like that probably spurs on more gay sex in the Navy than then not doing that.
Speaker: He's taken away our symbol of gay rights. And so we're just gonna start banging on the ships more. is what I would suspect will happen. So he he's shooting himself in the foot.
Speaker: Don't tell people what they can and can't do. Not if it's not relevant. I mean, don't know how that's relevant. It's so not relevant. It's so not relevant. and knows um But it'll it'll flip.
Speaker: We're moving in that direction. Then it'll get excessive, and then ah it'll flip. So just live long enough, Lance. It'll all flip. Well, it's an interesting time as everybody tries to be more edgy, but the the mainstream is trying to be more edgy.
Speaker: But the right-wingers think they can say whatever they want. I mean, when you're bringing in white South Africans and saying they're refugees and escaping genocide against white people in South Africa, you know, shit's just getting pretty funny.
Speaker: They're loving on Hitler. They're saying the R word all the time. I'm sure amongst themselves, they're calling everybody N's, F's, and G's.
Speaker: It's unleashed. There is a new sense of machismo and putting women in their place. All very interesting. But this is all just out there in the sort of media. Like, I don't think, I mean, you find it anywhere else.
Speaker: and it Like you're at your kid's basketball games and no one's freely screaming, read the N word. or f***** or guard that n***** like whatever other slang get that crap Nazi motherfucker the ball you know like I don't know if people are just publicly out there screaming this shit Uh, no. I mean, not that I know of, but i the kids but kids are saying these things. Behind closed doors and on social media, if people are like, we should be allowed to say what we want.
Speaker: Yeah, but you know how it starts. I'd say prior to the left-wing batshit moment of 10,000 genders, including... you know animals and I'm a star or whatever, I'm a furry, all the stuff that we were sort of like, hey, hey, slow down.
Speaker: And prior to all that, certain dynamics flourished online. A lot of shaming related to people who questioned that line of thinking. And I think you're getting that now on the flip.
Speaker: It may take a few years, but it could be Then a few years, you do see people walking around saying those things because they're the the risk of somebody being offended and confronting them has decreased dramatically.
Speaker: Maybe not offended, but um yeah, i wonder about that. Like is is a are gay? what You know what? ah Your average gay man be offended if I'm sitting there like the three of us are out for a beer and I'm like, oh, Lance, you fat.
Speaker: Is he going to be offended? Or is he just like, is he going to be the one calling you a f***, joking around? ah he's a friend, he's probably gonna call. you know You, me, and a random gay guy, Lance.
Speaker: Okay. We're sitting at the, yeah. He's a friend, yeah. But I don't, like I actually, when I come up in St. Louis, that by the way, it's like it's swept away, dude. there's There's like crazy tornado sirens going off.
Speaker: Uh, so sorry if I have to bail like a pussy, also offensive. But, um, want to one of, one of my good friends, friends who now I've become friends with is a gay guy. And he's almost like, he's basically just like hanging out with another one the guys as far as saying offensive shit. And yeah, of course.
Speaker: And he's free to talk about what, like whatever, gay you know, and, uh, i don't i have I don't know. i can't get the I wouldn't get the idea this guy would be really offended if we were like, that's so good. Or he'd be like he'd be like, what's so good?
Speaker: I want to go. I'm in. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's not like only white dudes are transgressive. And so I think you'll find like-minded people regardless of their gender, sexuality.
Speaker: It's just what's the line of like respecting other human beings and not trying to be hurtful. And I think for people like us, boy, we like to walk on that line and cross over it as much as possible because taboo stuff is exciting.
Speaker: yeah are you but you Are you worried as a society in the us where' we're starting to push too hard the other way now? is that Is that why we're we're having this episode where you're like, yeah, okay, now it's like people are getting a little too brazen with their the way they're using these words and really fighting for stuff. You're like, are you really fighting?
Speaker: Are you out there spending time and energy to fight so that you can say f***ing? It's easier for me to say that than the M word on air, by the way. It's kind of weird. But anyways, that that's my, it's like, why are you ah really out there fighting so you can say, is that your cause?
Speaker: It's kind of ridiculous. By the way, I've never said the word with the R, but I have said it. I've said it, what do you call it, the ghettoized version all the time with the A. I think that something, as we all know, has changed in the media landscape where shocking people with crazy stuff, acting all um emphatic,
Speaker: And using shocking words sells. So yeah, I think this will increase. And as the you see, the conservative media has flourished in the last 10 years and it is growing even more so now.
Speaker: And I would say that they're going to give themselves permission to say all sorts of stuff. you You really think, like, i don' i don't my only source of reference Fox News, that they're going to be like using those words on on air.
Speaker: Fox? No. What are you talking about? um I'm just talking about guys that are on YouTube creating videos. So anybody that has a a larger stake in advertisement dollars and things like that, and assuming they're not just supported by, they're not just supported by right wing skinhead type organizations, they're they're gonna have an incentive to not take it that far.
Speaker: But I think in common language, we'll see people take more risks. A lot of folks were walking on eggshells and I think men in particular felt like a certain type of man felt like they were being held back, not being able to say the words that make them feel like a man.
Speaker: How about derogatory women stuff? Welcome back, right? Yeah, absolutely. Welcome back. Welcome back. It's, yeah.
Speaker: God given, right? and You know, i've been I've heard the criticism because I've always said, pussy. Women, some women will say that's offensive. Like, I don't see why you would um use a gender genderized term. I'm not sure what the specific offense would be, but I don't know why you'd use that term to so to slander someone else.
Speaker: Yeah. what's Well, let's think of a good replacement that has the same effect because it's not easy. It's a versatile word. really works well. ah Again, no one's actually using it thinking of the the body part.
Speaker: No, I'm not, of course. yeah It just it sounds great. It just sounds great. so So does fag. That word really worked in the 90s to de diminish your friend's manhood.
Speaker: And it wasn't as if I was thinking about... a gay man struggling for civil rights. And I get why that would be offensive in that context. But what I was basically saying is you're an outcast, which inherently is the source of it being an offensive word because at the time, and in some cases still today, gay people feel like outcasts and that's- Only not helping the situation for them. That's a reason not to use that word, which is why I wouldn't use that word in public.
Speaker: And if you are gay, Thanks for listening to our show. You think there's some derogatory, there's a little, I think you mentioned it many episodes ago maybe, but there's like, there's some shit I never heard of, but I heard you say it. Maybe it was when we had your friend on, it was like his normative male or some shit.
Speaker: Oh, heteronormative, cisgender male. Whatever that is. Is that yeah is that offensive? Or is it just like ah terminology? Yeah. It will come across as terminology to describe describe a straight white male, but it is often a loaded term to call out male patriarchy in a negative way.
Speaker: Yeah, I wouldn't say it's a friendly term in in a lot of cases. is So could you say, ah well, everybody's doing it, but it's like, hey, everyone everyone's got their sort of derogatory terms for other groups.
Speaker: Yeah, everybody is calling out other people. there's There's no angel of virtue who walks around and never offends anyone else if they're actually being honest in their conversations with their friends.
Speaker: And so I think we could put it to bed if we wanted to end the episode now, but we won't because we want to keep saying these words. Well, that's ah that's your your mic drop, though. It's like, hey, you got yours for for this group, that group. We all do.
Speaker: Let freedom of speech trump. But that that's what you're saying. People are pushing that message too hard. Well, I'm saying too that ah we could probably all admit that we've used these taboo words or these offensive words, these culturally offensive words amongst our friends.
Speaker: And we've used them to describe other people in a negative way. We've done that, right? So, but... I guess the argument is at what point does a word become universally offensive that we should take it out of our public vocabulary?
Speaker: I think the N word's a great example. You're not coming on here and saying, dude, all them n****s in the NBA need to stop whining. You're not throwing that word in front of. i would say at least stop settling for threes.
Speaker: Yeah, that's not a word that anybody's comfortable saying anymore. Dude, I'm about three miles away from a Kendrick Lamar concert tonight here in St. Louis. pretty good Pretty good chance that word will be used hundreds of times at the concert, in the in the songs, in the music, in the crowd.
Speaker: And nobody's going to be offended, don't think. No, of course not. No. And I don't mind when somebody calls me a honky, a cracker. Yeah, when does that happen, though? Ever. Ever.
Speaker: I call myself that, but like if somebody were to call me, like back in the day, people would say that, cracker. White devil. Hi, white devil. Yeah. We have a different sensibility. Like we don't like, we're not running around like policing people's language. We're running around hoping that people say crazy shit because it makes us laugh.
Speaker: That's a different sensibility. So I still think the words for us are something we'll fuck around with. and not worry about backlash or keep it to ourselves. It's not like we're gonna come on this podcast and constantly say those things.
Speaker: But I feel more people have permission. You see them pushing the edge on some of these comedy podcasts now. They would've canceled. yeah I mean, I am okay. I mean, I think that's probably, that was needed to a point.
Speaker: to ah To a point, I would say. Because ultimately, if you don't like it, you just don't, people should not listen to them, but it shouldn't be like a cancel situation or anything. I agree. I agree. I do believe that the accusations of rape and and as many of them, if not 95% of them came out to be true, that kind of stuff or the harassment of women.
Speaker: little different. That's canceled. But the lady that... lost her mind, had a bunch of inherent fear when the black guy in Central Park was was a birder and she thought he was a criminal of some sorts and she got canceled and lost her job.
Speaker: That shit, you even the even the dude went on the Today Show and was like, that went a little too far because she lost her job and people were destroying her online. That to me is...
Speaker: That's some fucked shit. I don dot remember to the guy like jump out of the woods or something and something weird. And then she, she went, i think he just told her, he told her, I can't remember, but I think he told her that she needs to pick up her dog poop.
Speaker: And she got all, I think that's it, dude. But don't, don't quote me on that. In any case, she started threatening calling the police cause he's black and, So he was virtue signaling. And he got punished.
Speaker: But she got canceled, and it was, ah to me, a miserable situation. Now, she was a true true Karen dude, but still, she shouldn't be mobbed. Yeah. Well, that that's part of why we're at where we're at, though, like that excessive force on and some of that shit.
Speaker: Now, I guess no one no one seems to care or nobody and it feels like they're going to get anything done. Yeah. go hard at somebody because of their words. So by by doing that, it's like being permitted, I think.
Speaker: Right. What do you think, by the way, of Chappelle's use of the N-word? It's so frequent. It's just like the way we would say, dude, right? It's not like we'd be like, dude, I gotta go. i Dude, we gotta we gotta wrap up this podcast. I gotta go.
Speaker: But then why does this word hold so much weight? Yeah, I don't i mean, it's it's also like it's so prominent in entertainment being consumed by the white youth that it's only inevitable that they would you think they would be using it.
Speaker: Let's be honest, every white boy in the burbs in our era was running around, at this, look at that. Every white dude I knew was running around doing that. Would you check it up though if you're hanging out one of your black friends? you' Yeah.
Speaker: That's what they were, everybody was just calling each other that. if they You know, if they were friends. If they're friends. not if Not like... ah No. I'm not seeing a dude I don't know or a group of three brothers rolling down the street and I'm not like, what up? Yeah.
Speaker: or l No. Hell no. Hell no. What'd you say? What'd you say? Yeah. No. No. But dude. Yeah, I don't know. Like, don't know, man. Are we... It's like, who cares?
Speaker: um I have the privilege of saying that, but... Well, I don't know. Like the N word has been, it's just part of it so society now. I don't know. Like, I don't Same with the F word and retarded. Like, I just don't know who's wasting their time being offended by that stuff because really like who, who uses the N word in a racist way, like some fucking deadbeat redneck.
Speaker: Like, I think maybe, I mean, some people might be like, yeah, the president, but I doubt it. I doubt Trump's walking around dropping the N word. But who's using it besides some trailer park trash that no one gives a fuck about anyways. Well, and this this right here is the basis of this episode, is I think there is a powerful whiteness, male whiteness resurgence happening right now.
Speaker: And I have a feeling that these kinds of dudes who are not deadbeat rednecks, but these are politically minded folks, these are business minded folks, what's the What's the January 6th, those groups? You talking about people like that though? like No, no.
Speaker: no I'm talking more. Well, those people have power though. Yeah, some of them maybe, but more of the influencers. Yeah, Proud Boys, of course. They're running around and wording it with the R at the end type of fashion all day long.
Speaker: I'm sure they're using it all all the time, dude. and And as their kids get around that, it won't be as far as it was in the – it won't be too long in the future if it keeps going where it was back in the day in the South where you heard people say that.
Speaker: You heard your, like, white uncle that. And your grandpa say that stuff all the time. Did you ever have any older people in your family like tossing that around? Absolutely.
Speaker: Really? Yes. Is a form of sort of like, I don't like this group of people or like, this is the problem with America type people or? I would have, yes, I would have likened it to but something like this where you would say like, well, you know, the Jews are always penny pinching or they're always worried about money.
Speaker: They might say something like that, but they'd say that about black people, about Mexicans. they that Yeah, fuck yeah. You know, the Mexicans always working hard. um Something like that.
Speaker: You know, the Mexican girls, they're always fertile. Yeah, stuff like that. But other races are talking shit about every other race. Yeah, there's that. It's like those in glass houses.
Speaker: But you meet non-racist people all the time. like It's hard to stereotype to say everyone's racist. Every group is. But there are people in every group that are just as offensive about another group. It's not like because black people have been oppressed for so long and treated like shit that they don't have negative feelings about other races. They they clearly do, a lot of them, whether it's white people or other or maybe other minorities that they're sort of competing with for a piece of the American pie.
Speaker: And we all have stereotypes, some good, some bad. But there are a lot of people that... Like most people like aren't day-to-day judging the person in front of them negatively. Unless that... Maybe I'm naive.
Speaker: like You don't walk around the street being like, whoa, Mexican, careful. Black dude, careful. You might, after you meet them, then be like, oh, that person sucks. or just like... I mean, what percent of white people do you think suck?
Speaker: 80%? 85%? eighty percent eighty five Well, I said like the most of my racism goes to the down and out white person, which is a classic liberal elitist mindset that had flourished over the last 10 years and lost the election for the Democrats.
Speaker: But the easiest person to pick on is the down and out white, white dude. I thought, i thought most of yours go to like sort of the upper middle class white guy. That will both. He's fueling and part of the machine. Yeah.
Speaker: Well, I go to both. Is there any group of minority or or sort of different than just that Anglo white person that you're kind of like, man, these people are nuts. Like it might be fundamentalist Islamic people. Oh, the fucking Pakistanis. Hook, line and sinker, dude. You fell into my trap.
Speaker: Oh God. No, ah no, I don't fucking, I don't know. But someone goes, man, Latin girls can have a lot of kids. You immediately be like, that's a stereotype or you're in your head. and you're like, well, that's kind of true.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I'm more of that. But when somebody tells me, don't ever say this word, you cannot go, my my kids are my, you cannot say that, dad. And I'm like, oh yes, I can.
Speaker: And I will. And I never use it to try to harm somebody directly. I just like to make people uncomfortable and have fun with sort of how uncomfortable they are is appealing to me, always has been.
Speaker: that's ah That's interesting what you just brought up there. Do you feel like your kids It's almost feel like your kids your kids and my kids are probably the same generation, but actually it's different. you think they're moving towards like total political correctness or is it getting, are they part of this new wave where they're calling each other, calling their Irish friend mix, for example?
Speaker: I think they'll say in a public environment, a school environment, you tread lightly, but I bet they're all Unleashing different derogatory terms. Same as us.
Speaker: Same as everyone for the last 50 years or whatever. Yeah. And don't you think that the trend to finding some level of uniqueness where it's like a lot of young girls will, when they're middle school or something, will call themselves bisexual so that they can be a part of, um I'm going to just say something unique.
Speaker: And then from a cultural perspective, like this going to sound weird. Like there's some protection there. by being a part of one of these so-called marginalized groups and then having permission that you wouldn't otherwise have if you were a part of the sort of so-called normies.
Speaker: And I think that's appealing to teenagers specifically yeah to to identify with one of these subgroups. It's like the only way a ah suburban white kid can identify, be like, I'm in a minority group too.
Speaker: Something like that. Right. I suspect some of that goes on, but there are of people have a lot of empathy for whether they're trans or gay and they're in communities that are not supportive.
Speaker: Supported or supportive? You mean like their parents don't approve or stuff like that or just in general? Like the school's not, the peer pressures of like a middle school or high school are still not really set up to absorb someone coming out as trans and feeling comfortable.
Speaker: Yeah. All of it, top top level of society and now currently politics to their community, to their, maybe even their family, to their school system. don't know, there's a rougher path towards acceptance.
Speaker: And so the extent that you're running around comedically and saying words like trans. What do you mean? you When you say comedically, though, like if I'm like, okay, I got a joke about how I, I don't know, I mistake the trans model for a woman and ah you just make a joke about it.
Speaker: Is that, I mean, it's like, great, who cares? It's just like a life experience something. That's not, that's more of a, that's not a word though. Offensive word. Well, yeah, but I don't see it. Like ah how many good comedians, their punchline is just trans, you know, it's like no one's, no one' just like using comedy. Like maybe, ah maybe an idiot or someone's like, oh, that's gay. That's the end of their joke. Right.
Speaker: Right. Yeah. I don't fucking know, dude. It's like, you fucking pussy or something. Like on a podcast, you might hear that. Well, don't you think because those words have been also off limits that that's what I'm saying, that there there'll be a resurgence of... I think what's what I love, I hate to say it, but I always loved is like being a little more a little more creative with your stereotyping.
Speaker: And like, you're not just going to come out... to say something as dumb as like, just use the N word. Hey, you're acting like the N word. Like I remember this was many years ago, but a friend bought, brought this, this girl back to our place when I lived with roommates and I don't, she was a kid. I think she, we were, we were still pretty young. We're like in our twenties, but she, she, we were like, what are we going to drink?
Speaker: And she wanted cool bossy. So instead of being like, That's what fucking black people drank, dude. We were referring to her as Tupac for for like the next two weeks.
Speaker: I mean, ah it brought me great joy. It was hysterical. I don't know if anyone gets harmed in that, but there is a bit of a stereotyping in there, but also based on reality. Like you look at was that? Tim Meadows, a guy on Saturday Night Live, the ladies' man, who's always been I'm going to drink some Kovacier.
Speaker: Like that's like a stereotype. You're like, no harm, no foul. Or even Jewish people making fun of each other or people like, I don't know. I think all that shit is like, I would say it's fine, but then you can make the argument that it's like, where you let you you you know give somebody an inch, they'll take a mile. And it's like, well, now you're just making racial stereotypes. And if we if you're okay to joke around about that, call someone Tupac. The next thing is like, you're a proud boy leading a march on that on on Congress to get minorities deported or something, you know?
Speaker: Yeah. It might have been Alize because I think Tupac's like nights full Alize. You know, if it's, if something's too taboo, it might be too exciting. It might be the punchline to say for a white come com comedian to say the N word and get a reaction.
Speaker: Yeah. As cheap as it is, as boring of a joke as it is, or to say ah trans or something like that, a certain amount of openness and willingness to talk about words and the potential impact they have is the cure i think for for some of that but to your point yeah would i write a comedy routine where i'm using ah straight up derogatory terms as my punch line i'd be weak
Speaker: these motherfuckers want to call me a smaggot
Speaker: And these motherfuckers wanna call me a Snickers
Speaker: These motherfuckers wanna call me Smaggot Ass Snickers I'm about to embrace this shit My name is Smaggot Ass Snickers My name is Smaggot Ass Snickers
Speaker: Well, let's take this topic because it's both absurdly complex and and kind of comedically hair hilarious. This idea of appropriation.
Speaker: Here I am, a white boy in the suburbs, consuming almost 85%, 90% rap. Hearing the N-word, left and right. And now um maybe adopting some of the style.
Speaker: Maybe I'm even learning a few of the dance moves and maybe I'm even rapping. And this cultural appropriation concept, if I start to identify with that vibe and and maybe even I become a good rapper and sell a few CDs, that's for a period was termed cultural appropriation.
Speaker: And that shit drove me crazy.
Speaker: What's great is at the yeah at the base of all all rap, if you know your history rap, there's a there's a song, I think it's called Apache, but like all rap started them like up in the Bronx and like and people emceeing over music was just some silly white band, like music band. I think it's called Apache. Apache, jump on it. like ah The Sugar Hill Gang, I think, used that for jump on it, but there's like that that people are emceeing over that it's it's cultural appropriation the the basis of rap right it's like that it's just it's just funny a funny little fact now did beyonce when she came out with her country album was that cultural appropriation when she used like a fucking fiddle
Speaker: there's a bit of honor in that you know like like barbecue for example is based in like sort of black culture and and using shitty meats and figuring out how to age them and stuff it's like great if i do a double crossover dude and this is like in my cultural appropriation of alan iverson and his blackness and his dope moves am i stealing that to profit because now i got a dope crossover and i'm a honk and i'm a cracker
Speaker: and Like when you talk about cultural appropriation or any appropriation, it's like, where does it stop? I think it's profit. I think it's financial profit, but I don't know the definition. I'm sure we'll have to go to Harvard to understand what it really means, but I think it's profit. So if you were to, I don't know, you started selling fucking Jerry curl juice and you're a white dude and you started going around talking about how it was the best.
Speaker: Yeah. like well i almost and My point is like everything is derivative at some at some level. so we you It's like cultural appropriation or every everything appropriation is like... you know you like so I think a lot of people would say that even just rock and roll is just appropriated R&B or some of the music coming out of like blues and stuff in the black communities in the South.
Speaker: But they're playing guitars and they're playing instruments and shit. that's like it's like There's like a cycle of it. You know what i mean? You could probably take it back to Beethoven.
Speaker: Maybe Beethoven jacked the piano playing from Marco Polo going somewhere and on some iron bringing back an instrument. like like it I think it's <unk> more like that than cultural appropriation, i think.
Speaker: Also, do you want to fucking sell albums or not?
Speaker: Well, what do you think of the white woman that wore like a traditional African garb or some derivative of it as a dress ah for a night out? air You probably saw those white women at when you were like like a mid-level band.
Speaker: Someone like Orion's room probably gets like that carefree middle-aged girl dancing and being like, yeah. And you're like, and the whole band knows her first name, but everyone's like, ah, fuck, here's Karen.
Speaker: gotta go say hi to this one but you're like yeah well we need her well in the 90s there was that hippie vibe yeah maybe doing a little shaka zulu got kaulu style yeah you're like it's just funny yeah but i don't care you want to wear out like great well yeah but you you i don't know if you're really like the despite your wonderful use of of uh inner city language and everything. like I don't know if you don't care. Yeah, but what's white culture? like What can be appropriated for me?
Speaker: Greed? I mean, I don't know what white culture, like what is white culture? Well, if there are other people, it could be Asian people that might have ah an Italian restaurant or make pizza, for example. like like Who cares?
Speaker: I wouldn't care. Pizza's actually ah based in Italian food. not It's not really, i don't know if it's really thought of like as an Italian food in the US anymore. It's just, it's been appropriated as like a money-making machine, honestly.
Speaker: But white dude opens up a Chinese restaurant. People criticize, guaranteed. Well, the only way he does it, white guy is like, I lived in Beijing for 17 years and and was like a busboy at a ramen shop.
Speaker: You hear that shit all the time. Yeah, but I don't care about any of that is what I'm saying. If it's a white dude that opens it up, don't give a fuck. I don't care. Right. But I mean, I don't the what I don't like is like everything becomes just sort of watered down. It doesn't have any flavor, which is kind of what we've already talked about. Suburban suburban sprawling shit. So the the appropriation might come in.
Speaker: is like what you do is you kind of appropriate it and then you like white nice it or something. And that's probably what people don't like where you're like, oh man, we had like, maybe now nobody gives a fuck, but originally rap was like a cool underground thing. we talk about appropriation of rap and now, and now of a sudden it's just like this mainstream thing that's in even Snoop. But I mean, everybody has a price. So they sell out Snoop. Snoop was ah supposed to be a gangster from Long Beach. Right. And hard ass dude. Well, he's fucking on every commercial and, and,
Speaker: in the US and like, it's like, ah, because the appropriation or the sellout, however you want to say it, it's not this cool, hip, like urban thing. Now it's just mainstream shit that, you know, your mom, my I mean, people's moms, maybe not our moms are a little old, but probably like, yeah, I like rap.
Speaker: Or now we're, we have to tell our kids, yeah, we like, we like rap. It's not cool anymore. Middle-aged white people grew up with rap and everything becomes, oh, even barbecue or something. Now it's like, oh, McDonald's, you know,
Speaker: He's a fucking McRib. That's not now. It's been going on for like four years. But that's that's what people, I think, that's what gets people offended, where where it just becomes just a normal thing. And then you don't, it loses its like uniqueness and integrity.
Speaker: Well, but do you think it would be okay if I was opening a barbecue restaurant and I had a picture of a black family on it, on the restaurant, and so was called it like um Lamar's, Lamar's barbecue? Yeah.
Speaker: Is Lamar a real person? Is he helping you with the recipes? No, i'm just like I'm just identifying the type of barbecue. Is that- Well, some marketing person would be like, good job, Lance, because Lance's barbecue doesn't sound as good as Lamar's or something like that.
Speaker: Lamar's. It's making me laugh. Is that a standard black name? I don't know. Well, yeah, but if you if you do it that way, you're representing that you're black.
Speaker: ah Agree. yeah I know that's offensive. you know I mean, it's even funnier if you do that in the Chinese restaurant. So you you learn how to make, let's say we'll call it ramen. and you and But then you're calling it ah like a Japanese name, Yoshi's Ramen House or something. Your ass is back there.
Speaker: It's fucking funny. No, that that's appropriation. And that may be what it means. And it doesn't mean, though, that you can't buy those products. Like, I can't, if a a white woman can't walk around in sort of some African garb dress, then a white woman shouldn't be able to eat Chinese food.
Speaker: what's What's so much better is is the white woman doing it is kind of normal because there' always there's a lot of, it like I said, those kind of um free spirit and I love other cultures type women. But you and me walking around with some looking like Steve Harvey or some shit, It's like ridiculous, right? I got like a purple 15 button suit and like people would be like,
Speaker: I don't know who would be like, that's dope. Like, you know, I don't even know if you're in deer yourself, the black guys, everyone's just that looks weird. Or even like sort of the African garb that you'll see maybe like, uh, like if you, if you go, if you would look at a UN meeting, some of the leaders there from African nations might have like colorful, full body suit with like the hat, like a gang up, like African style.
Speaker: You rolling around in that. It's just, it's not that it's appropriation. It's just like, what's going on there? I mean, I just think if I rolled out, if I was like coming to Denver and I rolled out and you're picking me up, I roll out of the plane like that. You would be clowning on me forever.
Speaker: Well, what's a white dude to You should. But look, at this is what these right wingers feel right now. what What is a white dude to do? Nothing, dude. what What do you need to do?
Speaker: Like, like, uh, boys, the hub where he's like, we, who you think you is? Kunta Kinte? Like, are you, and are you dying to wear that garb? Well, what, what are you supposed to celebrate about yourself? What, like, give me like culturally.
Speaker: Is it patriotism? Is it some sort of Indy 500 event, like a type of sport? Yeah. what what are you What is definitively white culture?
Speaker: Is it hot dogs, hamburgers? We we either go we either go to our European roots. like I might celebrate that I'm Italian or you know Irish people love their Irishness. If you're mutt, then you go to like your Americanism and your – in your bullshit, your sports and your truck and your, that kind of shit. And sports and your truck?
Speaker: Okay. I mean, it might be your passion for hunting and your passion, like, that's what, well, yeah're I'm not saying you are gonna go there, but that's what people do. But I can see the point of ah a disillusioned white dude who's like, everybody else gets to own these things and like protect themselves and play victim.
Speaker: And ah I'm tired of it. I don't have that. and So it'd be like me going, well, since I'm mostly white, but I'm also Sioux Indian, I'm going fucking cry, cry out about Indian rights. And I'm going to do that.
Speaker: We're on the tribal lands shit everywhere I go. I don't know. No, but you might dive into Sioux history and culture and be and really embrace that. Well, why? i mean, like, what is it?
Speaker: It's so funny. Are you proud of your Indian heritage or is it so small you can't really identify? You think it's a kind of ridiculous. I think they're losers. They got crushed by the white people. And had I been there at the time, it wouldn't have happened. I can't be proud of i can't be proud of that ale my people took.
Speaker: I just think it's so silly. It's hard for me to like look at the white people that I see on a day-to-day basis and see power and see oppressive capacity. Yeah.
Speaker: But at the same time, I do know that mostly white people are leading corporations and have more wealth. it's ah It's just all confusing. We still have the... like You might get people... of these people annoy me, but like I don't know. The guy who studied abroad Spain and then has to fucking speak with the Spanish lisp all the time or something, you're like, okay, dude. The gringo does that. so annoying. but so but But people do that. like We have the freedom to just embrace.
Speaker: you call it pay like almost It's not cultural appropriation. It's just like, I love the Spanish culture. And then we have the money and the power to be like, that's what I'm going to do. going to start making paella at home.
Speaker: And I'm going to be a connoisseur of serrano ham. And I'm going to be like... Serrano ham. Hell yeah. oh there dad dad You to start doing that shit like they do?
Speaker: Dio. Dio. they're The older Spanish people, instead of their dude, are like, my and Costa Rica's tío. Tío. Ese tío. There are gringos that are like, they got to do that. me i don't know, you remember my friend Cameron in college? He went to Mexico for a while.
Speaker: Good dude. If you're listening, Cameron, love you, bro. ah But then he came back from Mexico and was fucking like Fernando Valenzuela. you know He's just like, a way wo place quiet you like fucking white Mormon, dude.
Speaker: Chill out. So we, but we do that, but it's also like, we're like, we love that thing. It's not like we're like, fuck these people. Yeah. But it, you know, turn that around in reverse. It happens all the time.
Speaker: How so? You don't think that other races trying to learn English, try their best to sound not a white person, but American. That's the same. Like they try to communicate. ah you're You're culturally appropriating the American culture.
Speaker: All I'm saying is that English language as it's spoken by, let's say, white people, that they may try to replicate that that dialect and, you know, sync up with how a white person sounds.
Speaker: And would you... The gayness of it. um Well, would you be ah offended by that? No. Or annoyed? Not at all. I don't know if anybody would actually. I like i mean, isn't that the movement now? It's like, that's what that's what the movement is actually pushing for?
Speaker: The movement's like, well, good. You're going to be here. Then you should be exactly like us. You should be Christian and white and speaking. All I'm saying is that if that person isn't annoying, then it's hard for me to just think that the white person trying to speak Spanish as crystal clear as possible is annoying.
Speaker: I don't know if the language thing, though, is is quite the same. You've heard somebody though, like somebody from India come here and instead of just try to speak the English language, try to adopt the slang words, the slang words. Hey, I can't um can't fake like an Indian accent, but homie, yo, homie, that's annoying. Two.
Speaker: I got a couple of things on that. One, i yeah't like I'm down there. I'm doing the same thing, called cost Costa Rica. Costa Rica.
Speaker: ahtarika My, and I wanted to be able communicate as good as I possibly fucking can because it makes life easier for everyone. And I also feel like there's so many gringos go around the world and don't actually assimilate. They just like, I like the weather here, so I'm going to hang out with other gringos and I'm going to make, I'm going to gringo size my little circle.
Speaker: And they don't really, think they have to respect the culture. Yeah, but people come here and do that. And people don't like that. people People respect the people. I don't care. My guy at the liquor store down the street, dude, can barely speak English.
Speaker: Where is he from? but If you had to guess. I think he's from like India or Pakistan or something like that. But he can barely Happy motherfucker though, huh? Oh, yeah. Thank you, sir.
Speaker: But he's also like, well, you know, that guy probably is like, huh? A couple brewskis with your friend, huh? Like he's probably doing stuff like that. where you're like it's not just the language he's like oh my other story was like i was i was buying stuff from a chinese vendor not not what i'm doing now but in the uh there's little lightning and thunder you hear that but uh so i'd even it was like every fucking night like two in the morning i start talking to this guy first of all this guy's in shangdong some someplace in china
Speaker: And his name is, ah yeah, Shang-Zuang. But his fucking name, ah first of all, it's like Ryan. It's like, your name's not Ryan, bro. And then he'd be like it'd be like, hey, man, how are you? And then I'd be like, good. How how are you, Ryan?
Speaker: And then he'd hit me with like, pretty good. ah Tough day. Never got time to see the girlfriend or go to the gym. But everything's, you know, like he he was literally just like, this is what this dumbass gringo wants to hear.
Speaker: And I'd be like, really? Yeah. it' So he was like, they were they were like, this is how this is how we talk to these idiots. You know? and Yeah. That was really funny.
Speaker: I was like, dude, I would like, you know, and someone like you or me, much rather his name be fucking whatever stereotypical Chinese name is. I don't know. Chong. And have him be completely different and talking about going to fucking whatever, Kung Fu practice or some shit. I would be like, this is dope.
Speaker: if If there's like a real, real Chinese dude talking about Chinese shit, but he also had great prices on a component. I don't need him to try to be like, hi, I enjoy CrossFit and country music.
Speaker: when he's over there. That shit is funny, dude. But that is funny. And it also speaks to why I guess white men are so lost. It's like we don't have anything really to hang our hats on from a cultural perspective.
Speaker: If his representation of us is, I didn't have time to see the girlfriend and go to the gym and I wanted to see the monster truck rally, but I couldn't get there in time. And that's his representation of,
Speaker: It's sad. Dude, have you ever... Ah, man, I wish didn't remember the name. There was a documentary I saw. was like ah It's a manufacturing facility in China and some family's involved with it. It it was like pretty popular. You probably saw it. You're woke ass, dude.
Speaker: Probably hanging out with a bunch of gays, watching it, being upset that you're white. Like a pussy, straight white bitch, dude. But they're they're in like a clothing factory and the Chinese people are holding up like pants made for Americans and they're just going, who the fuck is big enough to wear? It's like their their minds, it's like mind boggling with them that Americans can be so big.
Speaker: That's something we can all get on board with, can't we? All us skinnies across the world, fat Americans. That's a... That is what you talk about cultural appropriation. As we push the American lifestyle out around the world, people are embracing it.
Speaker: They're embracing the ah obesity rates that we have. Yeah, they are. Really well. And that's sad. And that no, I love it. No, you like that? Winning, yeah.
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