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No More Politics on POS
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Matt and Lance decide it's time to clean up their show. They want to get back to doing what they do best.
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Lance's Outhouse Anecdote
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This is one of Lance's actual thoughts.
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When I use an outhouse, I get nervous to see what's inside. Sometimes it's a real mess, but I always force myself to stare at the contents of the bowl. I never turn away.
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The last thing I'm going to do is lose my focus and pee on the seat. If that makes me a socialist, so be it.
Riddle About Sports - No Games Day
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Hiya, Matt. How's your, how's your, hey dude, I got a riddle for you. You don't give a fuck about professional sports, but of the four major sports, hockey, NHL, NBA, American football, baseball.
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There's only two days of the year where there's no sports ever play, guaranteed. Do you know what they are?
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Somewhere in October. No, wait, that's football. That's stupid. Since we don't got a lot of time, I'll give you a hint. I'm saying it today because today is one of those. I don't think you'll get it because not only do you not care about those sports, you don't care about the one that kind of dictates it.
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First of all, think about who's playing right now. Baseball. It's the only sport playing, so you just eliminated three, right? And you know what tomorrow is? No.
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It's the all-star game. So only two days of the year where there's you guarantee no professional sports because even like the NBA plays on Christmas, football and Thanksgiving. I think MLK, NBA probably does something.
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The three major holidays in my eyes. oh So the day before and the day after the All-Star game are the only two days year where there will never be a sports game. And don't try to come with MLS, bro.
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It's not there yet. Wow. Okay. All right. Interesting fact, man. What, uh, was that your own analysis or you read
Childhood Summers in New Jersey
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something? somebody told me that years ago and I thought it was great.
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i thought it was great. And, uh, it's, ah it's, it's like, I think it was one of my favorite times a year when I was a gringo child, like mid July, like summer's fully set in, people are chill.
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It's hot as fuck. You're kind of bored but also happy. it's like Even when you're an adult, it's like nice. so so The All-Star game like kind of marks ah a little bit of... Because in New Jersey, like sometimes because of snow days, we'd stay in school mid-late June.
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Kind of crazy. Colorado, you're probably, what, five weeks into your kid's summer vacay or something like that? Wow, really? Yeah, usually. Okay, I'll shut up. i just want to do that riddle.
00:02:42
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It's good stuff, man. It's podcast worthy. It's better than what I've been bringing up. which leads me to an apology. Let me apologize to MAGA first off.
Regret Over Political Comments
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Okay, and so the basis of this show is we really don't know what we're talking about.
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and And it's hard to stand by really anything these days because you get bits and pieces of information. Therefore, we're both pieces of shit. But it's good to have a strong opinion here and there. But let me apologize to MAGA because I did say at the end of the show for anybody that got through that bullshit,
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that I wanted them to suffer with Trump's big, beautiful bill, and that's not true. don't want them to suffer. I think that's wrong, fundamentally, and people should know I'm a piece of shit, and I don't wanna talk politics anymore, at least for the next, well, given what you said about July, at least for the next two months. let's be happy.
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I think, too, like, our digital way back when our original goal was kinda be like, just everybody come, let's let's hang out, let's talk. Politics is tough though, because you're going to get, you're going to get into this spot where you're like either going to have to alienate a group or get pissed at a group.
Expressing Emotions and Opinions
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So, so it's hard to be like, come on, maggot dudes. We just, we want you to be our bros as well. In your case, not mine. You identified me as the hardcore right wing last week, but it's hard to be like our show is a place for people to come and talk and hang out and then be like, fuck you guys. I hope you suffer at the same time.
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So. Right. So we're piece of shit. I also think it's important for everybody to express their emotions. And I love to have a place where you can express your emotion, but at least the backdrop is that you know deep down you really don't know shit.
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And we've always said that. We're taking, like I said, bits and pieces of information, coming up with ideas and opinions. Case in point. I just listened to it, a compelling ah story about the real basis of the excitement around blockchain in terms of transforming the financial industry.
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Now, I'm fucking railing on crypto left and right. And there's a broader story there. ah So, you know, there's more than meets the eye, Matt. Yeah, oh i don't want I don't want to trigger trigger or anything.
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almost afraid to ask. But I will say, i don't know shit. i don't know what blockchain is, but is it... We talked a little bit about it off air. Do you you you found some value or someone showed you there might be some value in a crypto market eventually something like that?
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Or use for it, I should say.
Blockchain Beyond Crypto
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Well, I think the concept of tokenizing investments and building infrastructure to allow for liquid markets in places where there weren't liquid markets is a really interesting use case for blockchain, for all sorts of financial tracking.
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And this very knowledgeable person who's in in an industry where they stand to profit from investment in crypto specifically is like, that's not the most interesting thing. Bitcoin is not the most interesting thing.
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That those are, we'll see where those go kind kind of deal. But the other stuff is going to be big. Was this point of view, which it seemed reasonable and logical. And ah it's just good to learn and good to know that you're an idiot.
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Right. Well, To that, to that, I mean, I've thought a little bit about, uh, I think we can go ahead and say, unless you've really got something else on this episode you want to drive towards, we, we, we usually, there's probably, if we tracked it, there's a, there's amount of time.
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I think you like, you like change. You like, you like, you get, you get into something and then you want to change it and you want to mix it up and then you get bored. i don't know it's bored you get fed up. So we can talk, this is one of our check-in points.
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We can tell our listeners we're checking in again. And, uh, we we We had some shit to say. We tried to get it out. But I'll say this, dude. Like, I feel like I've thought about my take. Like, I can't care.
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I can't care. Like, what what we came up with like, we're both sort of apathetic to the world now. At our age, we're kind of like, this is all bullshit. but we're handling it differently or I'm trying to check out and I'm not, maybe I'm too apathetic and too dismissive where and you're, you're angry about it.
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But I think I'm going stick with not caring because I think it's all bullshit. I think this is the right way to do it. I don't think you can get me back in.
Understanding Complex Topics
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Now I say this too, because we go, we don't know. I don't, we don't know shit about this, but I don't know shit about anything, dude. Like you think about like, that's for shout.
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Can you explain fucking, and this is like, I had this conversation my son the other day. he He was explaining to me like, uh, I think it was, it it was, had it might've been photosynthesis or might've been like the way how pollen works.
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And i was like, but I was like, dude, but you really don't know what the fuck, how that works. It's just like, you're, you can explain it. And I don't like, can you explain electricity? Like, and don't tell me, well, what happens is the atoms collide with each other.
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It's like, that doesn't, that's just some fucking scientific explanation. It's not, it's, we don't understand anything. We can't understand anything. all the way back to why we're here or why like I can make like a pretty amazing pizza dough now. I actually made fresh pasta with my son. He's decided he's going to be a chef for the last few days.
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I don't know why it fucking works. I can't explain it. So why do I need to go go deep on the why crypto works or fucking like or anything, dude? I'm not going to do it. What the fuck are you talking about? Like, why have a podcast at that point?
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I don't know anything about anything. You're wrong. We're entertaining. It is what it is. like That's it. i don't You don't have to worry about it. You think we need to come on in and educate ourselves about what electricity is and break it down for people or crypto?
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Nobody can. Okay. If you were going to have, let's say you're going to have but an episode about the energy market, which... We're not going to do, but if you were, you might want to research a few concepts.
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But hey, maybe you don't internalize it and you don't really ever learn it, and that's okay. This ain't fucking books on tape, my friend. like It's just the the people that listen to us.
00:08:44
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I think, again, no one ever, we don't get the feedback. like I get feedback or it's, I do get some feedback, but no one's like, Dude, I learned a lot that episode. I mean, maybe we got, I guess we did like from- Our highest playing episode is around income inequality.
Making a Podcast Successful
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But do you think that's why? i don't know. Cause we, cause we like fought the power for an episode or what? No, it's significantly higher. I don't think we have any clue what makes a good podcast. I don't know that we'll ever know. And and that's okay. We say significantly higher, like double, triple. Yeah.
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Yeah. um Yeah. Triple. Did we have anybody on that episode? No, it was just a fucking rant about, wasn't a rant. It was actually a complex conversation about wealth inequality.
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and But was it it wasn't, the but all I'll say, like you think that you apologize and you told me, like I don't know if I'd recommend that someone I just met my podcast the way I've been behaving the last few or something like that. Yeah, I would. No, I would not.
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And I'm like, but those shows, actually, i don't know if anyone's like, what the fuck are you, what is he talking about? he's Like, I don't know if they were that bad. It's more of the last several. It's the last few, I should say, because just beating up on the right wing stuff. Because I don't, look, so it's hard for me to resist the absurdity of what's happening in the culture a little bit today. And that's why I went there. But like, i i it's not a balanced, fair and balanced discussion.
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And I think it would be annoying to listen to because I was annoyed to listen to it, which was so funny is that I was fucking acting like you were attacking me. And it was so clear that my voice was the most obnoxious and dickish.
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I don't get the the idea those shows are worse or better than other shows. I thought they were great, but I but i don't i can't get into it. Like I cannot just go down that rat hole. real You have a lot of fucking opinions for somebody that can't get into it, brah. Well, i I'm trying to, I'm trying to like, if you were like, we're going in and we're talking, i don't know something for the next month. I would just say, all right, let's do it.
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I would try to bring something to the table. But I, but I, i I mean, if if I have opinions, i mean, I guess I have opinions
Life and 'The Truman Show'
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on stuff. um It's like hard to be like, I don't really care. But like, I'm not waking up going, I wonder what fucking Trump is doing today. I wonder what these liberals or crypto or like, I don't, but I i don't know. It's like, i almost feel like we're living in like the Truman Show or something something like that sometimes where I'm just like, this is and all nonsense, dude. It's going to go yeah out your day. Yeah, I'm not really either. But i think I think good conversation starts for me with things that are out of whack.
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And I think I'll continue to bring a flavor of that. But what I don't like doing is taking a whole subset of people and trashing them without a balanced take.
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Most the time it's balanced, because I don't believe in that. I don't believe all Christians are bad. And I think I went a little too hard in that episode of just talking shit, even though like I know there's a lot of merits. I know the fucking...
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Religion has played a huge part in humanity's evolution, so forth and so on. And I know that people that wore MAGA hats think and actually think about policy and more than Trump and so forth.
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so I know all that, but there's a deep absurdity that at times has to be called out, bro. You got to do it. Yeah. Can you think of like...
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i mean What's funny is always have enjoyed i mean i' enjoyed both. thats We've had a lot of good children just you and I rapping. I like it because it like when we're talking about politics, it doesn't necessarily mimic our our relationship and our conversations that we've we've had such a good time with. and I think when we're doing that, people love it.
00:12:43
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Like people can't resist it. They fucking freak out, dude. They freak. Just kidding. But, but our, but it's like, Oh, those are two, two old friends having fun. And any, kind any semblance of that? Oh, it's two old friends. Like fucking, fucking with two women or something where it's just like, oh that's what we would do. If we met two old women on a bus, you and I would be, you would be like,
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you know, how's your trim? And you'd be, you'd be jiving at them and I would just be being polite and nice and you would be like trashing them, right? Treating like shit. home straight please yeah I Treating them like shit. No, but those, those conversations are, are that's ah the base our relationship and that should be the base of the show.
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So, so when you get too far in the other stuff, I think we still have those conversations, but then it's like, all right, these are,
Impact of Guest Appearances
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now we're what do you call it? Virtue signal. We're really like, put laying on our opinions on people.
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But I think the shows I really liked is when we have somebody else on. And I think some of the our our feedback was like, does anyone give a fuck about us and our friends? And if we're just having random people on, maybe people are like, who's that? Because they're attracted.
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We can't compete with some big name who's got, you know, Joe Rogan might have Trump or Adam Sandler on. But we don't have to worry about that. This is not going to happen. So, I mean, but you think about some of the episodes that people have really told us they they liked, they were with other people.
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Like they were with Jake. And I had a few people tell me the the Rust Belt hoes were very entertaining because because they yeah related to them. I think we've had both. We've had both, dude.
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But i the the point is is that that the ranting has to stop for a while. The ranting has to stop. I never heard you rant. That's my point. I cut you off again, but I never heard, and a we're having like a conversation since 1991. I've almost never heard you rant like that when we're having a conversation. You wouldn't even say it like that.
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You'd probably be like, some, this motherfucker's crazy. You'd tell me that Trump's crazy by ah mimicking Eazy or something like that. like I never heard you rant like that that much.
00:14:48
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Yeah, I think it's a retirement thing. You got a little more time on your hands so you you can read full articles. Well, you could also say you've never seen anything like this, so you never had to. Hey, maybe, yeah.
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It's been a weird 15 years, dude. But yeah, I think I'm just, so I just got to stop that. it's just It's like, why have a show if you're going to just hate it after you you're done? I think that's part of why you have a show, though. like You're able to do that for a month.
00:15:13
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why share it with anybody if you're going fucking hate it? Well, did you feel like you're sharing it because you want people to wake up? Is any of that kind of... No. No.
00:15:25
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Nothing redeeming. I just wanted to fucking rail. So where's your sweet spot? Is it other people on? Is it is it a silly... you know is it something that's not politics but also an issue like when we did the youth sports? like wheres you Where do you feel like this is useful or I like doing this?
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I think you have guests, more guests, and then you have topics that are are more relatable in a broader way. The first thing there is topics. But they're interesting, but they're more relatable.
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but Yeah, but I'm saying you would say have a topic. Yeah, I think got to take an angle some somewhat to get a kind of a good conversation going. For example, you know if you talked about male friendship in their in your forty s so If you talked about, yeah, that's that's a good angle. And there's other angles.
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I held a discussion group and did a great convo about what does it mean to be a good
Being a Good Citizen
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citizen? And that it didn't get into any like, fuck Trump. Oh, Biden, he was asleep at the wheel.
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uh no i didn't get in the end of that it was really good conversation about like you know how do you participate in the world uh you got anything to tell you can share with us what's the summary is there is there but there was there any um like sort of common denominators I think a lot of us felt like we could do more.
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We could do a little bit more. We're not sure why we don't do more. And I think there's ah something about capitalism that you seek comfort. And once you get that comfort, man,
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it's really hard to bounce off of that. So it's like, it's really hard to go volunteer and serve food at a homeless shelter because it's uncomfortable. And like, if you don't need to, it just takes a lot of energy to gear up for stuff like that. So we were kind of questioning our motivation, which I thought was interesting because you know you'd like to be idealistic from a point of view of being a citizen.
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It's just, it's not practical. So. not practical from a comfort level. Yeah, and it's just harder to get geared up for stuff like that. ah my My wife and I went and picked up trash along a river as a part of an Earth Day thing.
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She rolled her ankle. Wasn't comfortable, bro. Are you dealing with a brace now? Is she wearing a brace? She had to go get like a new orthotic. 500 bucks, bro.
00:17:45
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Thank you, Earth Day. Some plastic fucking or orthotic plastic thing that will live for the next 9 billion years. That'll end up next to the river when she decides to go tubing.
00:17:57
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That's ironic. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She rolled her ankle. I filled a bunch of bags, dude. you bet You can bet that nobody was as hyped as I was, bro. I filled many bags. Yeah, I mean, did you walk away like I am a citizen of the world, recognized? you feel better? was it just like, I don't know if I got anything out of that or what? Or do you actually think you made an impact, like the river's cleaner?
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Well, I don't know that I walked away like high and mighty about it, but I will tell you that just cleaning up messes is satisfying. you feel You feel better yourself, that you felt high and mighty. but Yeah, it's a satisfying thing. It's not ah enjoyable by any stretch.
Routine Tasks and Endless Chores
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You're like walking on different banks of the river and sometimes jumping out into islands and finding all kinds of nasty shit. I find that shit enjoyable, but have you ever like, you turn around and you go,
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I'll never win or like, you don't know where you're doing it, but there places where you're like, I could pick trash up for the next 300 years. it doesn't matter. so now Now here, now here's a great topic. I will have that feeling every time I shovel.
00:19:00
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I'm like, Oh, I'll never win. Every time I mow the lawn, I'll never win. You know, always be there to just keep doing. Yeah.
00:19:11
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I'll never have enough sex. Matt was ah doing his two fingers right in front of his mouth and putting his tongue through it. If you know what that means. Is that, there is a, well, yeah, we don't need to get into that, but there is that sort of never, not quench for yourself, but maybe never quench. like Yeah. And I wonder when you appreciate it, when, when will you appreciate those things that you felt were burdensome maybe on your deathbed? Boy, I wish I could shovel again or when you can't do it anymore.
00:19:39
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know about the shoveling, but isn't it the, what you're talking about in the when the group, I think, the capitalistic thing where you're like, it's pretty pounding in our heads to to do more, be more, want more. It really is. The money piece. Yeah.
00:19:53
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That's why I don't like those other, why I keep saying like, yeah, I can't get into that other stuff. I try not to anyways, because... It's going to suck you right back into that. you know But it's hypocritical. I mean, I had that conversation. I've been with my kids last few days. so I'm going to be traveling, going to St. Louis for work, and I've just been hanging out with them, trying to have like some meaningful conversations.
00:20:14
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It's usually me just me busting their balls and making jokes for like four days in a row and being sarcastic and calling them pussies and all sorts of stuff. And then now they're getting pretty good, so they crack on me. That's it for like 96 hours in a row.
00:20:29
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we We even watched Bill Burr. And we watched it last night, but it made me think of one of your takes on WNBA. He was like, kind of what i said, it's like, ah, women don't support it. You know, like you're blaming us, men need to do this and that. He's like, you don't go to your fucking home games and shit.
00:20:42
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Why is it on us to, to, to pick you up? But, um, yeah, i was trying to have some meaningful conversation with my kids and I was like, you know, I got to tell you guys I'm, I'm hanging on right now. I'm trying, trying to work that you guys are still around.
00:20:53
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But once you're fucking done, I'm going to be living in a hut. You guys can come with me. We can open up a little restaurant or not. But like I really have decided since I've been out on my own here and like living in a not that great of a place, I don't need shit.
00:21:07
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And then they were just like, They got it? They were like, yeah, material. I was like ah like, tell me stuff that you've done that you've gotten. I was like, I always get you guys toys when you're younger. You play with them for like three minutes and you don't give a fuck about Like what has made you happier?
00:21:20
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You know, like ah something that really has value to you need like one of, like a nice jacket or a surfboard or something. need like one of them. But they were kind of like, well, dude, don't you want to travel? Don't you want to do this?
00:21:31
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Don't you want to live in a little nicer place? And they were right in a way, but but ah I don't know if they got the message or not, but it was just like, I don't know, try to have meaningful conversations with people, but it's so ingrained in our head from a young age, like you should want more. That's my point on this rant.
00:21:46
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yeah And like, they're pretty chill. My kids are pretty chill because they're not, they don't live in the US. So they're better? Yeah. I think that's a full full episode, bro, to explore that deeper. You said it now about eight times over the last six months. And I like it. Is it now This idea that you don't need much and you're trying to define.
00:22:09
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What else can I say about it? I don't know. you might turn into my Trump. It might turn into my my overkill. What if? Well, I think you could talk about like really what you mean and you know what would it feel like if...
00:22:22
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you didn't have the money to help your kids do other things and you were just living in a hut or maybe all your money would go to them. It'd be an interesting conversation. can get negative about that. Like we yeah we've, we've made fun of ourselves. Are we better? Because I've been, I'll spend my money this way.
00:22:35
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so yeah Like there's an excuse to not be ambitious, but yeah. Anyways, I don't know. It's just in the great, this isn't, this isn't great in our head. And it's also as much as we're like, oh why don't really need to worry about
Dissatisfaction with Podcast Direction
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the show. It's nice for us to talk. If if you're doing something you don't like, it feels bad. Ironically.
00:22:53
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like youre yeah it's Like you didn't like your performance the last few weeks or so. No. Well, I didn't like the the the railing on people as a whole. So yeah we're just figuring out life, buddy. We're just figuring it out. Matt's figuring it out.
00:23:08
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He's going to sell some wood, see what happens. I just got to keep you in the box once a week. I think we, I think, i just think we should for the, I don't know why, but we should keep doing it.
00:23:21
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So whenever you start to get worried about it, like, I didn't like that. I don't like this. I'm like, gotta, gotta get em back on the rails. It did occur to me to, why the fuck are we doing this? And the show. Yeah.
00:23:32
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It did occur to me, not because of what you're saying. It's like, if you're not trying to grow it, you're not promoting it. You don't want to tell anybody about it. What the fuck are you doing? Let's dive into that a little bit.
00:23:44
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Since why do you not want to tell people that? I mean, I could ask myself that too. Like, who am I? Who do I actually tell about it? But like, who do you, if someone found this, embarrassed? Are you just like, yeah, I don't want to be some idiot trying to push this podcast.
00:23:56
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That's the way I feel. But, There's that, there's that of course, but like, I don't wanna be some idiot who has a bunch of societal rants with no qualifications. Like I wasn't a political insider. I wasn't, you know, somebody that helped Ross Perot's election and have a unique background and how things run politically.
00:24:14
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And yet I'm out there ranting. Now, part of that's the basis of being a piece of shit. I also didn't, I wasn't a CFP. So don't have like unique experience to have those types of rants. I don't want to be those those guys.
00:24:28
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But I think we can talk about, and this is the sweet spot probably, is when you have some life experience that connects with a broader group of people and and you can share your experience essentially without ah without a whole fucking like rant.
00:24:41
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Like I can make fun of MAGA. I'm always going to make fun of MAGA. I'm always going to make fun of some batshit left-wing cancel culture stuff. I think I'm going to do that regardless, but I can do that with jokes and parodies and satire as opposed to Lance's very limited knowledge and uneducated assessment of what's actually happening.
00:25:04
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It's just very easy to skim the surface now. Like you can you can basically get by on like headlines. So then you have an opinion and you have a take and then you run with it. And yeah that's that's what people do. And you don't, I don't know, maybe it's fine. I don't know what, like you're saying, the only people that People should have direct experience in what they're ranting about.
00:25:22
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I don't know if that's going to, that's not going to happen. and Like people are going to rant. I think, i think you can move across a line where it sounds like you're trying to have some expertise.
00:25:35
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and this Sometimes what I do is I'll read a couple articles and then I'll like, a straw man it and then really box in the logic so that you can't argue with it.
00:25:46
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So, yeah and that's just not how the world works. You can't like put a box around something and say, it's airtight, baby. You can't argue against this. So I'll do that a lot, which is not... It's just not what an expert would do.
00:26:00
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It's not how I want to roll. But like, I want to have opinions about the way the world works. I just don't want to rant them out. I want to like discuss, discuss, bro. Like, what do you think?
00:26:12
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More like, what do you think? As opposed to check this fucking shit out, Matt. Pete Hegseth said. I think, i bla i don't know if you sound too I mean, the only... the only the only um Well, I hate it. i don't care what anybody... I fucking hate it, so... Yeah, I know. understand.
00:26:31
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I'm saying being passionate about something, even if it's a negative... You're like, I just don't like what's going on right now with this or that doesn't necessarily... Indite you as try it as a impersonating an expert. It's just like you feel pretty strongly that some of this stuff's going on doesn't agree with your your philosophies and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah So, I mean, it sucks. It's bad, bad entertainment. But you have you got it out.
00:26:55
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Yeah. yeah yeah Well, so you want to keep it light and fun.
Avoiding Self-Help Podcast Trap
00:27:01
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Like I get I get nervous. Like i get nervous. We get a little too political. But i also get nervous when it just becomes too like.
00:27:08
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self-helpy you know that back where it's just like i mean we had a run back like last year october november i was a little probably unstable like 20 2023 that's when we started right yeah had some shit going on but like i although i did get we did get more people were into it back then i remember people were like wow i got that going on too i got like a lot more messages like that Well, yeah, there's more engagement. That's what happens. that's that's what happens Yeah, it's true.
00:27:35
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So now it's just a running joke. Oh, they're still doing that? Oh, God. I don't know if anyone's saying that. but ah Nobody's saying anything. That's the problem, man. We're not hot, dude. We're not we're not on fire, brah.
00:27:50
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I think the there's a point where people, you know how you like, there's a point too where people aren't going to, like i'm not I wouldn't keep writing I don't know, Mick Jagger to tell him that he's, I like his songs.
00:28:03
Speaker
There's a point where people don't like just keep being like, Oh yeah, I love you guys. You know, like even, I know i'm not saying we have a lot of people that want to keep telling us that they love us, but like, there's a point where you're like, you just, you're not going to keep telling somebody.
00:28:14
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No, I listen quietly. I get you. And in fact, when I was playing music, there was a point, and we'll have Jake on next week, by the way, but and he can attest to this, but there was a point where when we moved from being sucky, like legitimately sucky, to, oh man, these guys are pretty good.
00:28:33
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Like an actual band. you could The engagement dropped. and And then it took a while to build up new people that appreciate the music that were beyond sort of your small community of friends and family.
00:28:46
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And that's an interesting phenomenon. So nobody's impressed anymore. Nobody's excited anymore that you have a podcast, but like, Of course, who would be? I mean, there's about 3 billion podcasts, but it doesn't matter.
00:28:58
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It's what we're doing. And I want to enjoy what we're doing, bro. I don't and i want to listen back and be like, what you I just listen back to myself. Would you shut the fuck up? And I used to make fun of it. many weeks do you feel like this?
00:29:11
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I probably have five, six weeks of political related stuff where I'm just like, oh, God. There's a couple where we, i probably pushed it too, but we set out on a different path.
00:29:22
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I think you need to say it though a little bit maybe because yeah we we we ended up back there like four or five weeks in a row. Yeah. Yeah. So so that's that's just something to be aware of.
00:29:32
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Dude, but that's, I don't know if it's a modern thing or it's just that no. It's interesting how every like every decision is is politicized. Like where you're like, all right, we're gonna talk about everything we talk about. You could put it back to like a liberal versus conservative, you know, argument.
Politics in Modern Discussions
00:29:51
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So you you you want to be, you know, you talk about longevity.
00:29:54
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Well, it's like, oh, these fucking cons conservatives over here are saying this and everything funnels back to that. Even like I remember, i don't know it's still like that in the US, like Sam's was the conservative. Yeah, it is. Kill yourself bulk shopping place. And Costco was the liberal kill yourself bulk shopping place. It's like, yeah, it is. It's a strange the world. A thing, you know? Yeah. Well, we don't want to fall in that trap, dude. We don't want to fall on that trap. this is a Yeah. But it's very hard not to, because everything now has that, that line, you know?
00:30:22
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Do you, let me ask you a question about the thing you created, my American hero. Is that political? Yeah. Well, some people are gonna take it as an obviously fucking slander on on woke pussy NPR.
00:30:36
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And other people might take it as a. My son was like, what's what's going on there? So funny. Actually, what's even funnier me trying to explain them what's going on there. And I was like, it's just Lance.
00:30:49
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Did he listen? He listened to the snowshoes one. Yeah. Yeah. That was the first one, right? Yeah, and he was just like... not well He was like giggling. He was laughing.
00:31:00
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And then he was like... Because it after a while, it's like, oh, not a joke. so It's just like it keeps going.
00:31:08
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And then he was like, yeah, i don't know I don't know what you guys are doing there. but don't you Don't you think he'd appreciate Tin Man, though? It's got a nice adolescent ending. He might.
00:31:20
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Well, he's only eleven Oh, I think he did. The ending is the is the big big donger. Yeah. I think he did listen to that. Didn't like it?
00:31:31
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No, I think he's like, you know, we make we made dicks like more important than they are, dick size. yeah Before you get exposed to that, but people are is like, they're just dicks. Nobody really cares.
00:31:42
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like He might still be in that they're just dicks phase. He's like, what does that mean? He has a really big dick. Is that a thing? You know? Is that something to embrace?
00:31:53
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what? um Okay. But no, actually, dude, there was that I also listened we listen to this guy, Joe List. It's fucking so funny, dude. I think you'd like this guy. He's got a special on YouTube called ah Small Ball. Joe List, everyone. Really good. But he has a part where he's – He's making fun of a guy who has a tattoo, which is like a rooster up below his knee. And ah and the guy with the tattoo is like he's got a cock but below his below his knee or something like that. And he's like, that's so so stupid.
00:32:22
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but So he's ripping on the guy for a while. But then at the end of the joke, he says something like, and by the way, i don't even know if this guy has a big dick. What if he just has a normal nine-inch cock like the rest of us, and then his joke doesn't work or something like that. So my son heard that um and got it.
00:32:36
Speaker
he was I was proud of him. He's actually like sort of subliminally saying he has a huge dick, right? And I was like, yeah, dude. And then I took the joke one step further and was like, no, he's not saying it a huge dick. He only said he had a nine-inch dick.
00:32:51
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And so I tagged it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, that's good comedy. Yeah, I can see why you'd have trouble understanding my stuff. so No, but you don't have the you don't have the laugh the laugh lines to work with.
00:33:04
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So it's like, i think he I think he doesn't understand the jokes. He's not in the US and he's only 11. So he works backwards. So hear the laugh and then he'll work back and know there's something funny that I need to figure it out. Ah, yeah. Your shit is too real. It's like an actual NPR thing. So nobody, everyone has to fill in their own laughs.
00:33:20
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That's my point. Oh, okay. Okay. Wow. had good yeah I think it creates a good conversation. but This is no, we already talked about this. you You're so... You get so fired up politically, you gotta to throw a cock a cockcker thing into or too, or to like bring her back.
00:33:38
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Whenever you get these um he's kind of like, what the fuck are we doing? Could you do that? Just that would that? Would that give you more satisfaction? No, I enjoy that, but like.
00:33:49
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But that never bothers you, does it? Or or do you get you get um away from those a few months? You're like what the fuck was I doing? I hope nobody ever hears that. No, i think I think that that absurd, you know, Jack Handy, as I said, was one of my favorite comedians.
Admiration for Jack Handy's Humor
00:34:03
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I feel like it's sort of like a 50-50 game with whether you think that kind of shit's funny, but then tell my wife there's probably 1% of the people that are like, oh, he's the best. I just like that style. I don't even know what it's called.
00:34:15
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The people in comedy have such a respect for people like that. I just find it so interesting for some reason. Yeah. It's just so unique. Yeah, and it takes practice. It takes practice to have that kind of style. i don't I don't particularly think I'm good at it yet, but I think if I did it every every day, just wrote some bullshit, you'd probably come up with some gems here and there. But yeah, I could do that every day.
00:34:37
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I could do that exercise every day. Not necessarily need to publish it every day, but. Dude, I should, I gotta recommend this book. from You should do this. it's ah It's like Jack Handy. I think Jack Handy got discovered because I think he was, I think he was a,
00:34:54
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was it Steve Martin's like Steve Martin's neighbor in Santa Fe for a few months or something. And, and and maybe can, I might be getting my stories mixed up, but somebody found some of the shit he was writing. was like, what the hell is this?
00:35:06
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It's like, is this a lunatic or the funniest person ever? And then, and then he started, they started writing together something like that. But there's another book. I'm trying to find it. Have you ever read this book? It's a Seinfeld.
00:35:17
Speaker
I think got it published, but there, there's this guy that wrote like prank letters to, to like all these big corporations. Yeah. And he in Seinfeld was at a party, I think it was Seinfeld, and this guy had all these like weird fucking papers on a desk, and he was kind of bored, and he just was looking at them, he started reading them, and then I was like, is this real?
00:35:35
Speaker
This guy was sending all these fucked up letters out to'd be like to the Kellogg's corporation requesting that they change something in their cereal or all this stupid shit. It's the funniest fucking thing I've ever read. and And so he was like, yeah this is genius, we got someone should publish publish this. So the book is like just just these these letters. so I think you have a some of that in you.
00:35:56
Speaker
Yeah. Actually, should have gotten a job at The Onion 30 years ago. Wouldn't that be a great skill to have? Just sit there and think about all the dumbest fucking shit you could possibly come up with and run it by your friends at the company? Wouldn't that be great?
00:36:15
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mean, so funny. Yeah, I mean, that' that's like a dream job too. And they're kind of anonymous too, which is... which is Even better. Yeah. Well, that might be a direction you want to go with our stupid fucking enlightened show about middle age crisis and politics.
00:36:34
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And those guys are over there having fun writing stupid shit about whatever they want. And they can it can be anything. can be sexist, racist. Anything. it can They can do whatever they want because it's under the guise of fake news.
00:36:48
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Right, that's what we can do with this. ah If you want to write up some of My American Hero, because you can fucking, you can do your racist shit that you've been holding back on. My American Hero.
00:37:00
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you I have one right in front of me, bud. ah You're my American Hero, dude. You are my American Hero, bro. You could take a break. you could do a summer break.
00:37:13
Speaker
From what? This. POS? Yeah. You're saying you're thinking about leaving it. i always I always wonder if we stopped for like two weeks, it'd be done, right?
00:37:24
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It'd be done. Three weeks? How many weeks till we never get back on the horse? Probably a month.
00:37:32
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It's not like it's hard, dude. When's the last time you prepped? Just say never. but Not fucking once. the own The prep for me is just making sure I have time to do it.
00:37:45
Speaker
Not that I'm so fucking busy. It's just, it's like, fitting it in the other shit. And and i don't I'm not prep, but I need to be, I try to not be like thinking about other shit while I'm doing it, which never works, but you know I mean? I don't know what you bring.
00:38:01
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few jokes here and there. But look, dude, probably the smartest thing we we did is change the name. I really, really think it fits. And it allows you to i'd be apathetic, to not commit to anything.
00:38:18
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to be wishy-washy and fall apart, you know, emotionally and also talk shit. Both sides your mouth. It really fucking works, bro. Be a piece of shit. Embrace the POS.
00:38:32
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:38
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I am POS. I am POS. I am
00:38:51
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