Beauty, Satire, and Unconventional Drinks
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is my power. Beauty is my power. I'm gonna rock these tits. Then I'm gonna slap some dick.
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Beauty is my power.
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You can taste my shit snack Oh, beauty is my power Beauty is my power Beauty is my power Beauty is my power
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Satire alert, Matt. What are you drinking, buddy? This is a mix of lot of shit, dude. Watermelon, cucumber, spinach, pomegranate, some ginger.
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Wow. I had all this shit in the fridge.
Absurd Health Trends and Rock Licking
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I didn't bring this up last week, but have you heard of rock licking? No. Apparently, theyre like there's surface-level minerals on rocks. You got to get the the right rocks, but people are putting their tongues on it trying to get the minerals.
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You think I'm there? You think that's the next step? After the shake, the garlic, then rock licking? And then we know what I'm licking next, right, dude? Right? I just made that up, but I figured that sounded plausible. You made it up.
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Damn. I took it. Like, it's... You probably could go on Instagram and find people rock licking pretty quickly. And then some scientist asshole, like studies show in a double blind test that rock licking actually. And then they have all these, all these words, like your endocrinogens will react to your receptors and your, and that's what you're like must be true.
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Endocrinogens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You do it for a month. You're spinning pizza boxes on your erections and your blood pressure is 50 over three. and you're And you're going to live to your 190. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's funny.
Objectification in Politics: Satire and Critique
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Satire alert. Matt, ask me about our nation's press secretary.
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All right. Lance,
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yeah I will say this. I don't know a damn thing about our nation's press secretary. So let me... let Let me know what you think and like what's your take on our nation's breast secretary. Oh, I love MAGA bitches like Caroline Leavitt. Round blonde highlights.
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I'll hit that MAGA puss harder than anyone could. I should be able to hoot and holler at bitches like my forefathers did when America was great. Caroline's got those bikini pics online for all to see.
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I like a girl that shows what she's got. I want to hit that MAGA puss in a bad way. I'm tired of these body positive woke bitches, dude. I want a MAGA bitch that keeps it tight. By the way, look her up, dude.
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What's her name? It's Caroline Levitt with a K. And look up her bikini pics. With a K. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Caroline Levitt. Yeah, you you told me. Man, you tricked me twice today.
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You told me this was an experimental show. She's 27. Is she qualified? Well, she's a press secretary, but the point is she's got bikini pics up there. I see the pics. I see she's like young blonde woman.
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She's 27. She's married yeah as a kid. Yep, 60-year-old. 60-year-old guy. All right hold up. Ask me about our- She's married to a 60-year-old? Yeah, ask me about our nation's director of national intelligence.
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right. We should start with, do I know who these people are? And so 0 for 2. I don't know who our nation's director of national intelligence. So what's your take on this person? Well, okay, Matt. Have you seen that MAGA hottie Tulsi Gabbard?
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Have you seen her in a bikini? Goddamn, I love them MAGA hoes. This kind of woman wants to get smashed, bro. She wants to get hit. She's out there prancing around like a serious person trying to lead national intelligence.
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But with a body like that, all I know is she wants to get fucked, bro. Why else would she flaunt those pics online? Why else? Tulsi, is she? right. Dude, look her up. see where we're going, bro. I am.
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She's not bad. Oh, my God, huh? All right. So does she have streaks of gray hair, or is that like a cool blonde streak? You see that?
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You know i'm talking about? Yeah, I don't know, but I'm just talking about the swimsuit pics. I'm not finding all these soup these swimsuit pics. I wonder if they're taken away or... are ah Just type in swimsuit after.
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Well, so do you have, I don't know where this is going. By the way, this is just Lance was like, i got an idea for a show. Just go with me. So I'm going with it. But yeah yeah do you have a problem with good looking women working in the in the presidential office?
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Well, I don't know. It appears to me that there's something going on here where I guess in the olden days, the pre-MAGA days, like you might've scrubbed these from the internet, but there's something about the type of women that are getting these leadership roles where keeping these things up and looking super hot and super powerful is almost like this anti-feminist take.
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It's like, no, I'm not one of these dyke woke bitches with short hair who's a policy wonk. Look at my titties and my ass on on TikTok and Instagram. and and while They're doing that?
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And watch me kick liberal ass. No, I'm just saying it gives off a vibe like that. to if you And you can look all across some of these powerful women. got to think a lot of people are like, that's awesome.
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Right, tell so what do you think about that? Like I look her like, damn, she is, these both these girls are pretty damn hot. Like what should I think about that? Well, not to get non-committal on that, but I don't i have no i don't know anything about him so I don't know if,
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Like the, what's the first girl, the blonde girl? Like somebody might go, yeah, well she went, she studied political political science at Harvard and fucking spent a year in Oxford. I don't know like if they're qualified. You make it sound like they pulled they pulled these these girls off OnlyFans and were like, you're a national press secretary, let's go. no No, i'm I'm only objectifying the fact that they have good bodies, that they're hot.
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No, no, no. I don't know what their credentials are, to be honest you. I just think it's quite interesting that their image, their online images and their bodies and the way they look is so prominent.
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That's the other question is like their online image, though. Is that them or is that like people snapping pictures and then kind of getting them in like a compromising thing where it's like an ass shot or something like that? Do really think they're putting their posting? Yeah.
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Or this from the past, maybe? No, I think they are.
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I think they are. Ask me about, and I won't do the parody, but ask me about our national our nation's director of Homeland Security.
Beauty's Influence in Political Leadership
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this another one? Yeah. Okay. now so i i won't do i I won't do the parody here, but like it's Christy Noem.
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It's Christy Noem. What do you think about our what did you say? Sorry. Fuck it. I'll do it. yeah Fine. You wrote the lyrics, bro. How about that MAGA slut, Kristi Noem? She's got those plush lips and ripe titties.
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I'm tired of woke bitches. Noem is the kind of MAGA bitch I can slap around a bit. If she gets out of line, I'll flatten that lip some more. MAGA bitches like it rough, right? All women from South Dakota like it rough. I'm tired of these woke bitches that downplay their looks and talk about empathy.
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Fuck feminism. I don't even know what feminism means. I want a MAGA bitch I can fuck hard and slap hard. I want a religious bitch that knows I own her puss like God intended. This is good, dude. I was thinking if we were talking about trying to publicize the show a little bit and I'd public, but i'm going like I'm going to hold her back one more week.
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That's good. She's 53. Takes care of herself, right? She does, and she's 53, but she's she's definitely had some work done. Okay, so the first thing is like, what a disgusting pig lances for objectifying women and talking about their looks.
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And yet, all three of these women in this particular era are truly, they're leading with it in a space that typically women don't lead with that. Dude, it's kind of funny, but it's like it's it's like plight of the hot girl who doesn't get respect for intelligence her intelligence. Are they and they like sticking up for a a forgotten forgotten poor poor sector of society?
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These poor beautiful women that can't don't get respected in really professional careers. And these girls are marching the march for these beautiful women that have had a tough life. if You feel like that?
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Well, they are, but there's something else going on I can can't quite figure out. it's it' like It's almost like a slap in the face of your dumbed, well, not dumbed down, your...
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It's almost a slap in the face to the women that have tried to hide their looks in intellectual settings or corporate settings to get ahead for their brains.
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It's like this, nah, fuck that. Look at my ass and I'm gonna be in charge. And it's something, it feels new, I'm sure it's not new. <unk>s like I might give you that on the first two, but this girl, Christy Noem, she's painting the more of the all-American picture. like On Twitter, it's a bunch of her.
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She's always on horses, actual horses. She's got the family pictures of all these babies. She's got the halter top pictures and the boobs blasting out of this tight shirt at rallies. She's got all of the feminine work done, Botox and fillers and shit to try to stay live.
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She definitely likes to show show her face kind of made up and like her hair all... well like I see that. it's like It's not a normal look for a defense secretary. Like you see like, oh, is it John Kerry? Or was that a, like a Colin Powell or someone's like right fucking showing his ass?
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Condoleezza Rice. Okay, Condoleezza Rice, remember her? Okay, could you see her with bikini pics, like ass crack pics? And just like, yeah. Well, this is ah it's a different generation, right?
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Is it just that? Because Noam's 53. ah Is it that or is this what the definition of MAGA or Republican woman is now?
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It's like, no, yeah, I can be hot. I don't have to like downplay that. I'm gonna throw it. I'm gonna throw these titties right in your face. And men love it. And I know men love it.
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And that's part of my appeal. You think AOC is hooking it up? Sometimes. I don't think so at all, dude. I don't i think she's an attractive person. don't know. You're joking. No, no.
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Well, I was just going to bring up, like, is it a trend that, like, all it's just happening in the world in politics and there's Democrats that are out there showing off a little bit? Or is it is it more of this right wing, like you said, let's put some hot hot women in power? it's It's a good question. I haven't seen it.
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I haven't seen it. I think it's more of like a Fox News offshoot of like, you know, Fox is known for hiring hot babes, objectively hot babes and like who can talk some shit. He was hiring people from Fox News, right? Right. um Right.
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But any fucking news channel for for the last 80 years. I mean, there's a big difference between some of the folks on the left. Okay, Rachel Maddow versus Megan Kelly.
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I'm not saying Rachel Maddow isn't an attractive person, but come on. Is that that manly looking girl? on the Only because she has short hair, right? No, no, it was a real question. is she There was like a kind of a manly looking girl. on No, that's a girl on CNN that's probably like, by if you just like took took the stats down, like if she was at the the combine,
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all her numbers play out. probably like an attractive girl, but I find her pretty manly, like a little too like angular. Anyways, that's a soft topic. How do you spell it? Rachel Maddow.
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Oh yeah. Yeah, Rachel Maddow. I mean, turns out I was actually right, even though I wasn't actually talking about this. but Yeah, kind of manly. Okay. okay But it's a different vibe, dude. It's like she's she's not... I don't know what she'd look like if she was made up like these other other women.
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She's not trying to make her presence and her look the star of the show. It's like she's downplaying it. Rachel Maddow. And as are most serious people.
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I mean, I'm not. Fuck. You're not? I mean, I'm not trying to look good, but I'm not like... Is there a situation where you'd be upset if someone's like, oh, you look good. You'd be like, not here, man.
00:13:12
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Not when I'm podcasting. Yeah, but you're a dude. You're a dude. And so this goes to like the central theme of of those parodies there. It's like. Do we have any more, by the way? You got any more of these? I got some more MAGA specific absurdities, but let's start with this.
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Like, what's your thought on feminism and like women's empowerment? Is this like the next level? Like, yeah, hell yeah, I got ah got them titties and ass.
00:13:41
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And I'm going to dominate. It's cool. What do you mean? Well, it's cool as far as is it any different than any other industry or something. Like if you have, I don't know, somebody who sings beautifully and one them is 400 pounds and of them is like ripped and beautiful.
00:13:56
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record company is going to go with the beautiful person right and and like it's in so so it's and people that are in the public eye a lot of times
Evolving Feminism and Women's Empowerment
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mean i'm sure like men men benefit from being being attractive or or you know you hear like uh women they're always like he's handsome he's cute good like i'm sure it works for them so okay i buy that difference i buy that for a senator or maybe a Hot senator.
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Hunky senator. But really, your director of national intelligence needs to be a bombshell. Needs to be ugly? And looking hot. No, no, doesn't need to be ugly.
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But there's something going on here. You just think their looks had played in the hiring. It could have been that, but it's also just that they're fulfilling a persona within this Fox News MAGA-centric world that people expect.
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don't Don't bring me no dog. Don't bring me no ugly girl that can't shoot an AK-47 with a bikini on. you know Bring me a woman that can show me. going to want to hit it.
00:15:03
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What's that Tom Hanks movie? chuck Charlie Wilson's War? charlie Charlie somebody? who like helped end the yeah Afghani conflict with Russia, but he he was like, he would only hire hot hot women to work with him.
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Seen that movie? I've seen movie. The other guy who died Philip Seymour Hoffman. Yeah, yeah. And it's basically like, I can teach him to to type, but I can't teach him to grow tits, says was his motto.
00:15:31
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I got that on the inside of my arm. That's my credo. Well, that's all been true. And what's interesting here is they seem to own it in a new way.
00:15:44
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You know, it's ah I don't know what's going on there. I think there's a movement around like, forget all that feminist bullshit. It's made us women weaker. Well, I find i peculiar. You're asking me like, I find peculiar that it's not like a one-off.
00:15:57
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It appears to be like Charlie's angels. Like, like they're, they, they put all the high positions that way. It's pretty interesting. well well Well, right. I mean, I brought these, I could certainly go through the media landscape or obviously Hollywood and pick out a gazillion beautiful women that are on top and successful because that's like, it's like a prerequisite.
00:16:19
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It's a prerequisite for being, but for your director of Homeland Security and your director of national intelligence and your press secretary, maybe press secretary I can get with like, yeah, have a friendly, cute face and all that, but The walking around with bikini pics that you haven't scrubbed, it's all interesting to me. I'm not going to say that they're terrible people or anything. I think it's just an interesting environment where this is now cool for people who have cabinet-level positions.
00:16:50
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Is this a conversation, though? like Have you heard men, like, you've seen that press secretary? Kind of hot. Or women, you know, like your wife's with her friends, are they like, what's with that girl? I guarantee you most men see Tulsi Gabbard in that swimsuit and are like, damn.
00:17:05
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I'm not. I mean, they' these are better than looking at ah you know ah middle-aged white men that normally we see as politicians. But I'm not. You're making it sound like these girls are fucking supermodels.
00:17:16
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I'm not making it sound like they're supermodels. I'm going back to. I'm just right. Who's your... I mean, I see a picture right here at Tulsi Gabbard in the standard lesbian politician pantsuit, Hillary Clinton style, hair pretty modest, like she's wearing a blue blazer.
00:17:32
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um I'm not seeing some like... Slutty. I got to find the... Okay, so... Where are you seeing that shit? Like, they putting them on, like, like social media? Yeah, it's on the internet, Matt. Fucking just look around a little bit. I'm why I am. But you're going to go look around and you're... all excited, bro.
00:17:50
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Yeah, you just want to see the pics and you want to be a dude and be like, it's fucking fine. It's fucking fine, bro. You make it sound like if i if you click on on Tulsi Gabbard, it's just going to be like, ass-a-thon.
00:18:01
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No, i'm I'm not making it sound like she's got a Pornhub page or fucking OnlyFans page. No, I'm just saying that these pictures are are out there and like i they still they own them and they own the look.
00:18:15
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I would say she has she does have more of a, I think the first girl, got to go back, but this girl has a pretty all-American look depending on what she's wearing and what she's doing. That seems like that. I mean, it seems like you mentioned last week, the trad wife and the Mormons repping that they can do everything. It seems like a, like an extension of that more than like sort of sluttiness. It's more like I can be beautiful and I can be powerful. And I have, I have a husband who rides horses and the, you know, there's pictures of her running or some shit. It's like, I can do it all.
00:18:44
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That seems to be the message. Yeah. of this MAGA thing a little bit. it I think it's part of it. And ah I just don't know that you could compare some female politicians of the past in terms of how they present themselves. Like Hillary Clinton is not, she doesn't have a pic out there with super short shorts where she's like running on the beach in a halter top.
00:19:05
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And you could go, well, that's because she's a fucking dog. you knows you She's a 105 year old mom. That's why. Well, She didn't have that when she was younger either. It's a different world, this whole, this this Fox News star MAGA space where it's it's totally okay that like show that shit.
00:19:26
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ah To her, to defend Tulsi, she's a Hawaiian congresswoman. She's a surfer. So she's she's got pictures of her surfing and shit. I also wonder when all this happened, you know? Like, is there is there on the timeline, could you could you see these women, like, pull it back or ramp it up? Or is just, like, kind of the way they've been forever?
00:19:46
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don't know how deep you went through research of their outfits, but, like... I didn't go deep at all. I just think that still these people, these folks, and and they can be serious about their jobs, but I think you'll notice on the right something has changed where people are coming out coming out hard with how they look.
00:20:06
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I will say... like The more I look, she's got a bunch of picture like workout pictures. Yep. That's a part of it. It's kind of strange. i think But I still feel like that's part of that kind of I do everything. you know I'm in shape.
00:20:19
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um I'm killing killing Iranians. I'm doing it all. What do you think about it for for leading the country? Well, I mean, I think you and I kind I think it'd be weird if you were fucking posting pictures of you working out on Instagram, let alone a leader of the country. like I just think it's weird for everyone like that I don't understand.
00:20:39
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but but So I just think it's an extension a little bit of just what people do. like who Who's posting pictures themselves working out on fucking Instagram? And the reality is like everybody.
00:20:50
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It's so weird. Got a good workout in today. But who is... Who wants these serious country altering jobs and still is doing that shit?
00:21:01
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This is a new personality. This a new sensibility is what I'm saying. One that I haven't quite figured out. Like I'm attracted to these women, but I also like, I disdain, I have disdain for her what they're about.
00:21:13
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Like this Caroline Levitt is just a fucking blatant liar. Yeah, so there's that. Does it make it worse for you? Like the way that when they're bad actors and they're hot, does it make it more like bitchy? or deceiving or something? or like does it Does that get you, Ralph?
00:21:28
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Does the looks change that? I also want to ask you about ah you know other professions where this might happen. but caroline what Caroline Levitt just sits, but the the press secretary for Trump is someone who just sits there and just takes it, right?
00:21:41
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It just has to be a combative pain in the ass. She's not taking shit. She's just fucking spouting off whatever he says. She's just going off. Dude, her look does nothing but annoy me.
00:21:52
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If you want to... And I hate to say that because I don't even know her, about it but i like there's nothing there where i'm like, I mean, I see it. She's like, I guess people would say cute blonde girl. but Well, then you're not true MAGA is my point. You're not true MAGA. cause Don't you say that. These are MAGA starlights. Don't you say that to me.
00:22:09
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Well, she might be awesome at what she does. i don't know.
00:22:14
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Like, what's her background, you know? She went to St. Anselm College. i don't know what that is. She's from New Hampshire. She's a division two softball player. She was into journalism and worked her way up and got an internship in the in the White House, dude.
00:22:31
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It doesn't matter. My question is why now you're the press secretary and I still can go find you frolicking in bikinis. I just think it's funny. Dude, kind of crazy though, if I'm
Portrayal of Women in Power: Societal Impact
00:22:42
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if i'm doing the math. okay So she joined Trump's, the first in 2019, so she was 21.
00:22:48
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As an intern. but But let me get to the point. If these are the new women leaders that our children, your daughter potentially are looking at as examples, how does that make you feel?
00:23:02
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I mean, um what's the alternative? Like, hey, so Sophia, get you you're she is a pretty beautiful woman. Someone just telling me the other day she should be a model. So I should be like, but if you get into politics,
00:23:14
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Ugly it up because it's not right, dude. Like, I don't know what the message is. No, let's just say maybe the message is lead with your looks, tighten up the clothes, show some skin, kick ass.
00:23:30
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Now, would you comfortable saying that?
00:23:35
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No, that's what you think. That's what you think these girls did. Well, that's what people want. I mean, effectively, you're saying you can be successful. You're going to be successful if you do this. Well, all right, I'll take, let's say you can talk about it if you want, or you can cut it out. But let's take your wife, for example. She's in in front of people and in a professional thing.
00:23:54
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Does she make a point to be like, I'm going to look i'm gonna dial it down as much as possible in the in the work atmosphere so it's not a thing? Yeah, there's nothing distracting.
00:24:05
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But it's been all the way up. I mean, i I doubt I know her, so I doubt she's like, look at this fucking hot little number so I can go to work. She's not that girl, but is she also, is she like thinking about it? You know, do women need to think about it because they're doctors or they're politicians? She should be like, i i can't wear ah I can't wear a cute dress today because it might it might detract from what I'm actually here to do.
00:24:25
Speaker
So I got to dress like a Muslim Yeah. What do you think, dude? Do you think you should that a psychologist rolls in in a short miniskirt and a fucking halter top is like, hey.
00:24:36
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Yeah, maybe not that, but i it's not like I doubt she's going out of her way to to look like like terrible. I mean, I'm seeing pictures of these girls and i'm not I haven't yet found the like the just absolute slutty side of it.
00:24:50
Speaker
And maybe that's because it all got cleaned up. a little There's nothing so it's not only fans level but I just if you will go through there and look at one of these gals and just I I asked you to find a similar picture of Condoleezza Rice or Hillary Clinton You gotta give me I don't remember any I'm like who was like was there any attractive politicians like oh what was the one the one from Alaska?
00:25:16
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Yeah, but she's she started all this Sarah Palin. Oh, yeah, I don't know if she's a dits, she she was she's like the godfather of be this all-American mom and be attractive and and talk shit and be strong.
00:25:31
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She did start all this. What happened to her, dude? I don't know, buddy. Supposedly, she tapped Glenn Rice. You ever hear that? Really? Yeah. Yeah. A basketball player?
00:25:43
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Yeah. They had that Alaska tournament up there. Really? Yeah. While she was married, governor, huh? No, this was like back when Glenn Rice was playing at Michigan.
00:25:54
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Oh, so when she was younger. Yeah. Damn. Damn. See? It's kind of funny. See what happens when you look when you got them them looks? Okay, enough of this shit.
00:26:04
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You ain't got no fresh takes, bro. and My takes are, I think it's it's all right. You did all the work, but I don't know. and It's weird that, I don't know, like I'd have to say, how many prominent positions are in a ah ah presidential office? You know, like 20, 10, 5? Let's just say 20. Because you gave me three. Like, are we talking about that you could go on and on, like another give me another seven more?
00:26:27
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i didn't I didn't go that far. I didn't go that far. Because what what the left comes in office and all of a sudden you find everyone is like, you know, they're they're trying to get diversity and all that kind of crap, which people piss people off. It's kind of funny if the motive, the under underlying motive, unspoken motive was like, let's get some hot trim in here.
00:26:46
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Let's do it. I honestly think that's part of it. And I also think that's part of the sensibility. That's my take is that it's like, yeah, we're not going to be a your traditional... ah empathetic feminist who plays things down i'm going to show you these titties and i'm going to show you ah that i can hold an ak-47 and i can talk shit and i can own the libs i can watch watch me own the libs and it's like that's the vibe and i think it's a fresh new take on feminism but i i just look at sitting down here i just i mean it doesn't even and like i just see that as the u.s where everyone's like oh yeah like
00:27:21
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Every girl's got to be in a fantasy football thing now. And they like guns and all that's like, okay, take it easy. That's just like what's going on up there. and But so it's like, it doesn't even faze me. Cause it's just like, you guys already went there as a, as a nation.
00:27:40
Speaker
You remember in, uh, like when we were in high school, there was a, there was a big, uh, you remember there was like gays in the military that that was like the biggest fucking thing ever. Well, you could be in it, but you can't say that you are. That Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Was that Clinton or Bush?
00:27:54
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No, it was Clinton. Don't Ask, Don't Tell. that was like That was comedy goldmine. Every hacky comic had Don't Ask, Don't Tell jokes, and and and it was was a heyday.
00:28:07
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That was progress. in a sad way. Announce you're gay? or like i don't i mean don't even understand it. like you're not you Why do you have to announce your sexuality? I think now it's find out you're gay, you're fucking fired.
00:28:21
Speaker
Really? like Legally or just or just get ostracized because people are not going to treat you the same? I don't know the actual what's happening specifically, but I do know, as you know, because I've mentioned it, they stripped off Harvey Milk's name from a fucking ship.
00:28:38
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Dude, but can we talk about Sean Penn's range? I just saw some some shit of him being Spicoli. So he can go from Spicoli to playing this iconic gay character. like Pretty impressive, dude.
00:28:52
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All right. What do you think about trans in the military, Lance? Bro, I'm tired of these trans motherfuckers in the military. I want it to be like back in the day when we hung around the barracks with our dicks out talking about how much pussy we fucked.
00:29:05
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That's the military I love and remember. Tough guys comparing dicks and talking about pussy playing poker and drinking booze. You can't do that stuff these days in the barracks with trans everywhere.
00:29:16
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yeah honest You honestly think I can live in a foxhole with some woke-ass trans?
00:29:24
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oh Would that bother you, dude? Would that bother you? i so i wonder I just think it's funny because I can't imagine there's that many trans people. are like i'm I'm fucking joining, man.
00:29:35
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I want to be a Navy SEAL. Just doesn't seem like, maybe um'm maybe I'm stereotyping, but ah is it a big issue? I want, is it a big issue? you are Are you asking that question seriously?
00:29:48
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I'm 100% asking it seriously. like No. There's probably like under five trans people in the US that want to join the military. And for those people, it's they should have the right to serve.
00:30:01
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I agree, but it's not a ah big issue, I don't think. Even if it was 10%, and even if we said, you know what? 10%, no way, And even if we said, you know what, it's not 10%, but even if it was 10, 15, 20%, still, when we think of military, and we think of our new Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth's version of being a warrior,
00:30:24
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how many of the jobs are like dudes in the barracks getting ready to fucking dig the foxhole and shoot people up in the infantry where they gotta like live, eat shit, suck each other's dicks, all that stuff. no How many jobs have that?
00:30:40
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I mean, there're most of the military is like, behind the scenes, logistical, organizational. Gayer than the Catholic church. How would a trans person impact a maintenance operation if they were a mechanic?
00:30:55
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Oh, you said trashed. You know, it's there's no... I get that. You're saying it doesn't really matter. It's just like... there's there should It should be unspoken, right? It's potentially a conversation if there was a combat unit where it was becoming a distraction and making people feel less safe.
00:31:12
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It would be a potential conversation that I am pretty sure doesn't have to happen very often. But but this this issue, I think, has gotten so obscene. You would think everybody's next door neighbor is trans.
00:31:26
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Yeah. But wait, wait. didn't yeah Are in you arguing against what you just said? that's what That's kind of what I'm saying. like Is this even a big issue? But you were saying it shouldn't be an issue because it because it has no effect on the that the person's ability to be a good soldier.
00:31:41
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Against satire alert. Yeah, its I've said that this is how people think, these this this sensibility of today, Maggie. But no there's no, there's no issue on a percentage basis. There's no issue at all.
00:31:55
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There's just this idea that if we have somebody like that in our warrior ethos, ah We are failing as a military. It's a total bullshit.
00:32:05
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And and ah most people aren't fucking ah digging a foxhole, sitting in the barracks, needing to be naked in front of each other. And by the way, have you hung out with any group of dudes?
00:32:17
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Everybody's uncomfortable. Not just the trans person that's in there. Everybody's uncomfortable with everybody. With other people's dicks? Just with the whole thing. Like a fucking dude who farts all... You know, you've been around the guys. Oh, yeah, bro. Yeah, oh.
00:32:32
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And you're just like, Jesus Christ. Fucking dude. i wish I had- Yeah, that's what they need to do, the trans things. It's like, I'd love to have a woman around me right now instead of your farting ass.
00:32:44
Speaker
They need to, yeah, they should do that. Like take the take the ah focus off of like the trans thing and then be like, yeah, the guy who's pounding garlic cloves and breath smells.
00:32:54
Speaker
So like, I got other issues, bro. I'm just a human just like you. Yeah, but the the larger issue, I want to laugh, but I can't. The larger issue is that all across the military, and and we could add sports, we've demonized these trans people as folks that impact others' abilities to be successful in such dramatic way, which is, the take is that's total bullshit.
00:33:21
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I get that. Like, it's big the people are making it to be like, they're going to affect other people so much.
Trans People in the Military: Narratives and Discussions
00:33:28
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And it's like, not really. Nobody affects anybody else that much, you know, no matter what.
00:33:33
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I was trying to think of the practical thing. And so let's just say there was a trans man, previously a woman, in a barracks, in like a hardcore barracks full of like 16 dudes.
00:33:46
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The only thing I could feasibly think of was that a dude needs to take a shit and this the the trans person needs a sit-down toilet to go pee. And so that their need to go pee impacts how quickly dude can take a shit.
00:34:01
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There it is. That's the big impact. That's what's fucking... Well, maybe she just can learn how to how to get how to do it outside and air dry. Yeah, whatever. He.
00:34:12
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What'd I say? She. Oh. Yeah. But that's how absurd it is. Well, would someone say she can't she she's going to be weaker or something like that? He. Yeah.
00:34:26
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he's gonna be weaker, because he's actually a woman. that Is that one of the arguments they're making? i don't even I don't even know that they're making any arguments. to that I don't even know that this scenario exists, but there's plenty to talk about there.
00:34:40
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why? Is there a push to like, is there a push by either Trump or the right or someone that's like, we should not allow known trans people in in the military? That's a good take in the sense that No, no, but it's a question.
00:34:56
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Like, is this a thing that people are trying to get past? No, they don't want trans in the military. But that's an interesting take in the sense that if somebody is taking has taken hormones to be more masculine,
00:35:10
Speaker
and perhaps more muscular, if they're doing that and competing against women, and that's a terrible thing because they're dominating women and in, say, boxing, shouldn't then that mean, by virtue of that argument, that they're perfectly... soldiers Yeah, shouldn't shouldn't they be perfectly fit to be male soldiers?
00:35:29
Speaker
So what's the problem? and There we go. Killing machines. Trans killing machines. Solved it. Yeah, they're all just straight straight to Army Ranger or Navy SEAL. Yeah.
00:35:40
Speaker
Or green berets. Because they're fucking badass. It's just a tough place where you live, bro. Things are changing around you that you're not comfortable with. Ask me about American universities, Matt. I wonder, like, this image, like, you know, you talk about American universities, this image of these women doing this and that. Like, do you think that... um Women now, like and a 20 year old who's thinking about what to do when she she graduates is like, now it's bleeding down. Like if you if I went to a college, there'd be like like a business school, girls dressed like dressed to impress, but also like in and and a nice professional way, but a little a little like sluttier, a little more provocative, because that's what's in and that's what's going on now.
00:36:26
Speaker
I think that will happen, yeah. Yeah. Wow. For some, a subset of women. God, you find that this, but you don't find this thing has bled into your family or like these women, like, for example, you have a teenage boy.
00:36:44
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Do you find that even like, you know, teenagers are looking at these politicians the way that like maybe they look at a movie star, like, like and in the past, the way you would have looked at a Jane Fonda?
00:36:57
Speaker
I don't know if it's gone that far, but I bet you that young men who are down for the right can appreciate looking at ah more attractive candidates. Yeah, dude. mean, come on.
00:37:08
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That's why I called it out. like I just wonder how ingrained it is in the society where these people are becoming like celebrity type things because of their looks or it's just like, ah, it's interesting. No, I think they're meeting a MAGA a magga sensibility Your average MAGA voter...
00:37:27
Speaker
doesn't wanna do a lot of thinking and wants to see what they're used to seeing on on on Fox. Now, i'm um' this is an opinion. I'm opining on a huge contingent of people called MAGA.
Media Portrayals and Superficiality in Politics
00:37:41
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They wanna see what they're used to seeing and these people fit the bill. And they're not the policy is secondary or it's not even actually on their radar. It's more of like, are you talking shit and beating up on the libs?
00:37:54
Speaker
Do you look fucking kick ass? then yeah, you got my vote and I got my support. That's pretty much it. she She told them like it is, huh? Like that type of exactly. that's That's I think is the take in terms of the how people look, which dovetails into the same sensibility or a similar sensibility with respect to universities.
00:38:18
Speaker
You to have a question to ask you to get going? Yeah. we're it's I just to close the thought, we're we're we're going into the golden age of politics is what you're telling me. I think so, buddy.
00:38:30
Speaker
And you don't get any any semblance of sort of women's power out of this. You're like, yeah, it's good. mean least At least i the the presidential cabinet is filled with women. That's a good thing. I think it's the opposite. And I think the military is weaker.
00:38:45
Speaker
Sorry, that's what I think. um There are people that would probably, I mean, they would probably immediately, if anyone like, oh, you're sexist, and oh, look at my cabinet. It's filled with women, right? Sure, and I'm setting this up, but it's an easy, like anybody that disagrees can stomp all over this opinion.
00:39:02
Speaker
So women don't like sex?
00:39:06
Speaker
make it you can You can do... could you could tear it up? there's no Yeah, there's no easy way to have a conversation about this. Well, I think it's you yeah what you're saying maybe is like they're still being object objectified, but really this way.
00:39:22
Speaker
It's having like the opposite effect, right? Exactly. and I think it's setting us a sad standard for women leadership. I get that that we have in the past allowed men and women to – succeed based on their looks and also based on their sexuality and other identity ah factors. But like this a bit too far for the particular jobs. Now, if you were going to be the the chick that fucking walks into the WWE w e ring and flashes what round it is, yeah you can look, do your thing.
00:39:57
Speaker
look you know Show me some plump titties, show me that ass, like you know flash the sign round two and move on. But like you wanna be these high level positions, it starts to starts to seem confusing.
00:40:11
Speaker
It could start to happen though, like because like the way that entertainment's kind of bled into politics now, Trump and some of this other stuff, like maybe maybe it'll be where people Some OnlyFans person who's got a shitload of followers or something like that will run for, or yeah, like a WWE wwe woman.
00:40:30
Speaker
It'll be like a gag and they'll win a local Senate race or something like that because they have they have that, like, the look and they have the notoriety. So people are just like, oh, fuck it, I'll vote for her.
00:40:42
Speaker
Yeah, and that's a big contingent of our society that just it doesn't really care about the seriousness of the job. It's like, does this person have the sensibility that I want to see? so So how does this, does i don't know if my question is this, but how does this relate to the universities?
00:40:58
Speaker
Well, Matt... Our universities teach nothing but woke shit. Every professor's woke. One professor told my daughter Trump lost the 2020 election.
00:41:10
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Another one told her slavery had devastating and lasting consequences for the black community. These universities hate America. Why do we want our kids to be taught by people who hate America?
00:41:22
Speaker
My daughter's criminal justice professor tried to say the CIA and FBI committed war crimes against suspected communists throughout the world. Bullshit. They hate capitalism.
00:41:33
Speaker
They're all socialists and communists, woke libtards.
00:41:42
Speaker
Let me, let me, uh, I wish that was truly satire. I wish that was satire. I do. It's not, that's actually accurate. They're all accurate to be honest with you.
00:41:53
Speaker
The left, the left still control the university system and they're, they're telling our kids the opposite of what our the leadership is saying. They're just not telling the truth, Matt.
00:42:07
Speaker
Criticizing America is wrong. Hmm. They're not telling the truth. They're all woke. We're not here for free flow of thoughts. If you don't believe the 2020 election was stolen, you are woke.
00:42:24
Speaker
Hmm. If you want to talk about how white people came to America and obliterated natives, woke.
00:42:37
Speaker
If you want to talk about how Hitler was evil and murdered millions of Jews, woke.
00:42:47
Speaker
You believe this to be, a this is what's happening. some like someone's like Hitler was ah was an evil person. there's ah there's a new a new idea There's a new idea brewing on the right. Like, well, you need to you need to look at it closer or something like that.
00:43:03
Speaker
Oh, there absolutely is. Yeah. There absolutely is. I'm not saying it's the most prominent thing, but definitely the fact that the idea that universities are a place of This whole attack on Harvard and that kind of yeah Well, just all universities are a place of just 100% liberal ideology and that that nobody on the right can fit in and our beliefs are not supported and stuff like that.
Criticism of Woke Ideology in Education
00:43:27
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It's running. That's rampant. Yeah. Right. that's Yeah. But I don't know if that's necessarily new. I mean, I wonder if there is a more right college, maybe the Southern colleges, but like, yeah, I mean, I thought I went to Boulder. It was pretty liberal place, you know?
00:43:43
Speaker
I mean, what is liberal? it's ah It's an openness. It's technically, it's people that want to see progress, which you would hope guides a center of learning is like, okay, let's figure out where we're headed. Let's understand who we were. Let's be critical. Let's be open-minded.
00:44:01
Speaker
If you're telling me like, that somebody has to teach creationism in its strict biblical sense, and somebody has to talk about a women's role in marriage, and that somebody has to say Trump didn't lose the 2020 election, and all these things that seem to define anti-wokeness now, then i don't really i can't really see how i don't i can't see how higher education works Yeah, I mean, it just seems maybe maybe you don't like it. It's like if you have any other sort of train of thought that's not not with that, you just label it as woke and write it off immediately.
00:44:38
Speaker
if it's If it's not exactly what the what the right message is supposed to be, you just go, you're woke. That's happening. And I will give... People who have felt alienated some credit here where like we've made fun of, we've made fun of all, like they went way too fucking far with all this like identity stuff and tell me who you are and I need to know who you are and I need to make sure I don't offend you. And then we'll teach a class where we make sure we talk about how every white person and it was paternalistic and terrible in the world and all white people are power mongering white supremacists. And and there was a vibe.
00:45:17
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that took hold in certain places. But by and large, we all went to university to think critically and to have our minds open to different versions of the truth and nuance.
00:45:29
Speaker
And what I hear now is just this like blanket universities are these liberal meccas of wokeness. Some people want them shut down, dude. and And college has become feminist now because less men are going and everybody's we're going to fucking trades. We're going to fucking trades. Fuck college.
00:45:47
Speaker
That's some woke shit. The trade idea is good. Yeah, potentially. i think the... I mean, there's probably... A little bit of, some of it's just people are like, the value, the price of college is out, outweighed, is out, outgrown the value of it.
00:46:02
Speaker
Some of that's just like. Some of that's true. Less than like a wo aw woke movement. Yeah, some of that is true, for sure. You only pay 50,000 a year, so chat GBT can can write, do all your assignments and shit like that. It's kind of a social thing.
00:46:15
Speaker
Yeah, why would why pay that money when I can go learn from the Heritage Foundation what the truth is? Yeah. I don't know. like there's probably some There's probably some majors and stuff where you can go to college and it's and it's worth it, probably engineering.
00:46:32
Speaker
and But a lot of it's just like, you know it is what it is. I don't know what the value was ah when we were there. But the the the idea that like all all university systems are way far left, it's not that new.
00:46:45
Speaker
I don't think most people always felt that. But you also have kids and kids are not the brightest at that age. If I think of myself when I was 18 to 22 and might have I might have latched onto to some messages that are that that in hindsight, I'm like, i don't know if that's necessarily true. So you have a lot of sort of uninformed college kids just like speaking their mind freely. And they're idealistic. line and Yeah.
00:47:08
Speaker
they They're progressive, usually more progressive and idealistic. Yeah. And usually very like, thanks especially now, Gen Z, like really think they have everything under control and know everything.
00:47:19
Speaker
Like they have life's full experience at 18 or 19. Maybe some of them do, but... What I worry about is if you start to attack the university system, like, I don't know if on a world scale, you don't think of too many things the US still does well.
00:47:34
Speaker
Like it's entertainment, it's leading. And I think the university system is still like the gold standard. Like if you're a even like Costa Rican kid and you go you go to the the undergrad school here, which is basically free if you can get in and then you go to the US and get your master's, like you're in a pretty good spot whether you stay in the US or come back.
00:47:53
Speaker
And I think for a lot of people around the world, their goal is to like get educated in the US. Absolutely. That's what we do well. Huge. At least we have the image. It's like, don't fuck with that. Don't don't terrorize Harvard. It's known as the best school in the world. like That's that's one of our one of our exports, so to speak. So that's what I worry about. like This whole thing about the university system being woke,
00:48:15
Speaker
Like, don't don't let that defeat the purpose. Like, because you want the brightest minds in the world to come to the U.S. And that's how they do it, usually. That's where it starts. you gotta We got to stop talking about about immigration as just, like, you know, people people, like, run across the border to do low-end jobs.
00:48:35
Speaker
also very intelligent people that are, like, their goal is to get to the U.S. And if they get they get there, then that's better for the society. If you start to answer shut and shutting that down, all's we got then is Hollywood and fucking like exporting the Kardashians and and fatness.
00:48:52
Speaker
That's all we have left. And MAGA tits. Well, we don't we can't compete on tits and ass, dude. like Oh, you might be right. But that's a strong take, dude. It's a strong take from Matt right there, guys.
00:49:05
Speaker
Clap him up. Clap him up if you're listening. ah Dude, for sure. You got to protect something. You got protect something. mean, even ah even our sports culture, whether you like it or not, it's it's the gold standard of the world.
00:49:18
Speaker
Like if people tore that down, then maybe that'd be a good thing. You know, there's only a few things where it's like ah we do it the best. You know, it's entertainment, even though our entertainment sucks. But entertainment... wait mana We provide the best university experience in the world. Everything from ah your options, like your Greek life, the sports experience, the class selection, the food, ah the campuses. It's just an amazing experience that...
00:49:48
Speaker
for people that can afford it, and I get why there's a resentful middle class or working class, it's like, fuck you. That's a different story. If you could get everybody to it, it seems like a wonderful American privilege. But let's not just like tear it down because a few people said, you know black people actually had it hard in slavery and and that created some impact for them to accumulate wealth.
00:50:11
Speaker
And there's a reason that more of them are in poverty now. i think there's there is also, i know, you know, because when they're talking about the Harvard things, a lot of like they already have a, what I don't know, $50 billion dollars endowment. Why do they need a billion a year from the government?
00:50:26
Speaker
and i'm like if i can give more money you know like keep that as the number one place in the world but they're doing research with that money they're doing things not like they're taking that money and funneling it to uh yeah anti-israel protest some prestigious elite place that's that's looked at worldwide as as ah prominent thing it's like a think tank almost like even in entertainment like half the all the writers of saturday night live coming out of like they wrote for the the Harvard Lampoon.
00:50:53
Speaker
You know, don't know if that still happens, but that's the way it was, you know, they're cranking out a lot a lot of pretty important people and who cares? As long as they're white, dude, I just want them to be white coming out of there.
00:51:05
Speaker
I don't, I think it should be 80% I agree now. You can convinced me. prove my point? Yeah, you did, bro. Well, that's a whole nother ball game, dude. I mean, that that's where this MAGA stuff goes and the attack on the woke. It's like people should just, that shouldn't be that shouldn't be considerate of of who gets into a university and all that stuff, race. It should just be who who qualified.
00:51:27
Speaker
That's like another big conversation I think that comes up a lot now. And it's okay to say, oh, they shouldn't get a free, you know, people are like, they shouldn't get ah any any advantage. But statistically, more whites would qualify.
00:51:38
Speaker
And that's a good thing, right, Matt? Well, they would because they're they're in they're in they're in better situations to succeed often. So that's why you would wait the other, right? like One thing I will say is Trump's done more for this country than every American president in history combined.
00:51:55
Speaker
There's nobody in this country that's done more for America than Trump. He's done more for black people than anyone. The gays secretly love him because they know he's done more for them than anyone.
00:52:06
Speaker
The Latinos love him. The Chinese don't like him, but that's because he doesn't want them to. But he's done more for women than any president history. He's done more for our economy than all presidents combined.
00:52:18
Speaker
Without Trump, we would have gone into a depression during COVID. He knows how to make deals that benefit American people. The left make bad deals because they want to destroy our country. Trump, I listen to him.
00:52:29
Speaker
If he speaks, I listen to him.
Trump's Political Impact and Future Directions
00:52:32
Speaker
He's the right guy for the job. the only My only worry is like if he doesn't get the law changed and then in 2000, was it 28? Then what do we do when his term's finished?
00:52:44
Speaker
yes right we fight We fight, fight, fight, take back this country. But let me ask you a question about it. because ah does Do you think that at this point, Trump and sort of MAGA's pseudo-worship, well, just it's basically worship of him, is some sort of of form of sunk costs sunk cost being the economic term where like you get so thoroughly invested that it's just hard to give up a loser. yeah and ah But on an individual level, if I have identified MAG, I'm so and invested in this identity that it's becoming harder for me to think of myself outside of that.
00:53:19
Speaker
Do you think that's rational? i can't I can't answer that one, dude. i'm not i don't have I'm not emotionally invested in them. I also don't really interact with somebody. like I can't think of people, and I still i mean i talk to people in the US. I don't i don't really know anyone that's like super pro-Trump.
00:53:38
Speaker
ah Most people I know, like and even Missouri is pretty right. i mean I think those people are probably like okay with it. They're more like okay with it. and was like Like, I don't know anyone that's like worshiping him.
00:53:48
Speaker
I'm sure they're there. But what what would you what would be the signs? Would it be that they would front a MAGA hat or they might have like four flags fucking coming off of their truck?
00:54:01
Speaker
Well, no, like the same thing as like, I don't know, like just ah bla a blind irrationality for everything he's done. Like most, like I know most people even support him and be like, yeah, that but that was weird. Or at least, at least they're an analyzing situation by situation.
00:54:16
Speaker
But they like, they I haven't, I don't know that many people that are just blindly like he's fucking crushing it, man. He's awesome. Well, but Fox news has the highest ratings. I'm just saying the wrong person to ask. Cause I don't, I don't talk to them. Oh, you're saying have nothing, nothing to add to the fucking podcast.
00:54:33
Speaker
No, but you're, I guess you're going to have to run with it, but you interact with people like that and you think it's rampant, not just in your circle that are just like fucking Trump showed the Iranians a thing or two.
00:54:46
Speaker
And, uh, i have I have people. I'm not going to name who. And I'm not going to get go there because it could be create a hostile environment. But I think there is this.
00:54:57
Speaker
Do you question their intelligence? Well, hold on. There's this unyielding fucking perspective that he knows what he's doing. And yeah, I guess I do. i go back to the university. I thought that our it was our civil responsibility to like think and critique our government and understand what's going on.
00:55:17
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I'm just asking, like, and I guess I said you you question their intelligence, but I guess it's more like, do they have a smart take? It's just not your take. Like, do you you find people are rationalizing what he's doing or what anyone's doing?
00:55:32
Speaker
And you go, well, I could see i could see why you think that, but i don't agree with it. Or is it just batshit crazy, as people say, in most cases? There was an argument to say that his foreign affairs in his first term, his foreign policy worked out better.
00:55:46
Speaker
Whatever he did, however chaotic, it kind of worked out better for us. I could buy that argument. and You could also argue that whether it was just animal spirits, not any sort of policy change or maybe it was the tax cuts he did that for a period of time the economy was was bumping, at least the stock market was bumping prior to the pandemic.
00:56:04
Speaker
Somebody logical might point to those things, but that's not what they're pointing to. They're often pointing to, it's almost an immediate, ah yeah, but fucking Biden was asleep at the wheel.
00:56:15
Speaker
Or, yeah, but the woke left went all crazy with pronouns. And, yeah, but I got censored on on the internet for saying the election was stolen or whatever. That's all weird and batshit for me.
00:56:27
Speaker
Yeah. and And there are those people out there. The people that are like but they're still talking about Biden, it's like, what are doing? It doesn't matter. Well, that's fine. It's not. and it's Yeah, but it's not. Well, yeah, they might be crazy, but it's not a um it's not a license for Trump to do bad shit because Biden sucked, too.
00:56:46
Speaker
It doesn't doesn't make any sense if that's your argument for stuff. I'm more here. People like like, for example, like yesterday I was talking somebody from the U.S. and he said something like, dude, it'd be nice if the Iranians would stop saying shit like death to the U.S., death to Israel.
00:57:01
Speaker
Like, why don't they just stop saying that? But and then because at the same time, you're like, what is Trump fucking crazy? He's going to go in there and start bombing shit. So there are people that are like, well, maybe they're not like, let's go get them. But they're also like, well, you know, Iranians have been fucking idiots for 40 years.
00:57:18
Speaker
So those are the people I more deal with when if they are a Trump supporter, it's more like ah I heard someone else tell me like the type. I think I might have talked to you about this week. The tariffs are – something needs to happen because ah the government's running such a terrible deficit.
00:57:34
Speaker
Now, you might not disagree with tariffs the right way to do it, but those are more of the angles that I see, and it's not like the guy pumping his shotgun on the steps of the Capitol building, like, fuck everything. Okay, but disqualifying thing for me is if you're still supporting Trump, and you must have at point – In any shape, or form.
00:57:54
Speaker
Well, but you must have at some point bought into the election denial or you must have some point rationalized the January 6th riot slash insurrection. You must have said, you know what, that just that got blown out of proportion by the lamestream media. So that's a precursor to you then seeing some chaos ensue and trying to come up with a logical argument ah for why Trump's doing what he's doing.
00:58:20
Speaker
Or you don't care. or Or maybe you don't care. like Like January 6th, it wasn't an issue for you. Then I don't even know why you would have anything logical to say about anything that's that's happening. So I just have a trouble. i have a gap there.
00:58:35
Speaker
I will say this. It seems like it'd be tight. If you are a Trump defender, just because of the site the constant news cycle and the up and down and things change by the second, it beat it's got to be like tiring to defend everything he's doing.
00:58:48
Speaker
just because it's so it's so all over the place where where you're like, i just i'm I'm just arguing against myself what I said yesterday. Because it might be like, we need fucking tariffs, so run out deficit, next day he cancels them.
00:59:02
Speaker
And then you're like, he he did the right thing, he canceled them. It's like you can't really talk, even against them in a way, maybe that's the genius in it. It's like hard to talk against them because then he goes, look, I just got to win.
00:59:14
Speaker
China and I agreed to cancel tariffs for three months, the market shoots up, then everyone's like, oh, thank God, right? It's like right create creates this he creates this issue and then he takes care of it. Well, I can't explain him. i'm not It's not about him.
00:59:27
Speaker
ah It's about the people that we all need to kind of come together and interact with to ensure that we have a good country for everyone. Whether you're worried about wokeness or whether you're worried about democracy, it doesn't really matter me.
00:59:40
Speaker
With this guy and the MAGA absurdities and the MAGA sensibilities, there seems to be such a deep chasm, deep and wide chasm for me to like find a place of common common logic.
00:59:53
Speaker
It used to be we could sit with my friends that called themselves Republicans at my company and just talk and debate a little bit. Some common ground. This movement has turned people into something different that I don't understand.
01:00:08
Speaker
It's like a new species almost. Maybe that's doing... It's maybe the counter effect because there's a lot of... The common refrain is Trump trump derangement syndrome. And maybe there's a counter effect that's turning certain left people into totally a new species of of human. that And maybe that's what I'm embodying in this episode. I don't quite think so because a lot of it's satire. But...
01:00:30
Speaker
And if you look at the internet, how absurd it's gotten, just how absurd people are god have gotten, where do we go from here? There's no escalation point. Trump's now dropping F-bombs. it's all It's all being done.
01:00:41
Speaker
Tomorrow, he could have one of the women we just highlighted giving him a blow job on video. And I think we would talk about it for a couple of days and we just it would it just be done. We move on to the next chaotic thing. I'm not even i'm like not exaggerating. i think that that'd just be like, oh, she was caught giving him blow. They got a little bit on tape.
01:00:59
Speaker
just you oh Bill Clinton. Oh, yep oh you know, fucking Biden was asleep at the wheel. And the libs hid that. You're worried about a little sex?
01:01:10
Speaker
ah It doesn't matter what it is. I forgot about that. I will say that when I was in St. Louis, i was there was like conservative radio. And it was like... I mean, the whole like i would lead i'd get I was working a lot.
01:01:22
Speaker
Just put my fucking back into it, Lance. i But I would get out of the car, and what, 7.30 in the morning, get and then be a conversation about how Biden didn't let the world know that he had cancer, and that's a huge cover-up and all this. And then I'd get back in the car like 9 o'clock at night, same fucking topic.
01:01:39
Speaker
I mean, i don't do should we know everything going on with the president? I mean, I think there is ah there's a public responsibility of... if you're heading into an election.
01:01:51
Speaker
ah Yeah, maybe maybe that maybe that's the issue. but Yeah, but it was just like you're really taking the focus off the off the game plan here by just hashing on that for 15 hours in a row. It's almost like a deflection yeah type thing. No, that's that's that's what's entertaining.
01:02:05
Speaker
But I feel like it's now just 100% entertainment is what captivates people, and they want it to feel like an IndyCar race or the Worldwide Wrestling Federation. Yeah, I mean, that's by why they're hiring those girls IndyCar.
01:02:17
Speaker
but Yeah, it's it's just more about entertainment than it is substance and policy. a good Good politics, I guess, now is what we call it, maybe.
Entertainment vs. Substance in Political Discourse
01:02:25
Speaker
Right. And I think if you endeavor to be somewhat of a thinker, that's concerning to you.
01:02:30
Speaker
If you endeavor to use scientific research to ensure that's why i don't care what health and vaccine, what health recommendations there are, then you're you you're a little worried.
01:02:41
Speaker
But I think for a lot of people, it's more of like, what, fucking Anderson Cooper? He's woke and gay. I'm not going to listen to him. cnn Anderson Cooper's gay and woke.
01:02:53
Speaker
No, but I think with him, people point the hypocrisy of his liberalness and he comes from like a crazy wealthy family or something like that. Okay, but listen to him. In addition to his sexual preference.
01:03:04
Speaker
But walk away and actually listen to the words and the analysis that are coming out of his mouth versus some fucking ah weekend Fox News dipshit. He's more what?
01:03:16
Speaker
Yeah, I'm more professional. The words I use are more balanced. It is CNN, fine, but there's not an equivalency. But somehow the absurdity of MAGA has become something that we we should all accept as normal.
01:03:30
Speaker
The norms are shifting so rapidly and so intensely that we're all just like, it's just how it is, bro. but so And then, you know, sometimes you'll lean on this. Well, it's always been that way. How's that different than the eighty s I'm just saying it's quite a bit different.
01:03:47
Speaker
It is quite a bit different. what What I was talking about, like, I just remember watching, like, I'd come in, I'd be outside, run around my friends till it got dark. And there'd always be, like, the nightly news on TV or, you know, it' only, like, four channels.
01:04:02
Speaker
at least a my impoverished house. We were late to cable, believe it or not, Lance. Oh, yeah, right. Seriously. Fucking please. Mid-80s. And I just remember every fucking night would either be iranians the Iranians, the Ayatollah, whatever that guy.
01:04:18
Speaker
or Afghan, a kid, like a hundred pound guy limping around with a rocket launcher on his back shooting. Like that's, that shit seems like it's been going on forever. And like some, some of these issues like the middle East and all the, it just seems like, I don't know. It just, it just seemed like whether it's Trump or anyone else, it's like, I don't know if I get that worked up about it, the way Trump's handling because it seems like it's been going on forever.
01:04:41
Speaker
Oh, there's nothing about his representation of world events and his communication that you're like, hmm, that's a little different than what I remember.
01:04:53
Speaker
There's nothing? ah Then than what, like Reagan? or I mean, it's president by president, because some guys were like, let's let's talk about peace. Some guys are like, we're gonna take a hard-ass approach. He's he's clearly different than anyone who's come before us, yeah.
01:05:09
Speaker
ah But like the basis of like the battle of like, do we, is is America strong and they don't take any shit versus let's be let's be brokers of peace. That debate is not a Trump thing. That's been going on forever. Yeah, but that's not even the debate with him. the the he He had rolled in with anti, like sort of anti-war sentiment. I'll solve all these wars. We'll have peace.
01:05:30
Speaker
We'll make deals. And then he goes and does the opposite. So he he wasn't walking in here as a strong man war or a war hawk. He was quite the opposite, but then went ahead and did that.
01:05:42
Speaker
But my point is not necessarily about execution of of foreign policy. It's like you have to admit there's there is an absurdity, a blatant absurdity with that human being and then all of the people around him that you have not seen before and maybe will never see again. I think this will fizzle out.
01:06:01
Speaker
Wow. This level of absurdity. That never happens, though. um I'd be more worried about that if I was you than what he's doing. Like if he's opening the door to real absurdity, like, like, because it never, it never like ramps down.
01:06:14
Speaker
You don't think what cooler heads will prevail when this guy's gone. I think it opens the door to a boisterous lunatic that like, you know, he'll be like, you know how we now look at George Bush is like, like a reasonable guy.
01:06:27
Speaker
But at the time it it was like, that guy's evil. But where where can we escalate from here? You never, you never like, it's like you never can imagine, I think. Okay, it's sossuming so what? like So maybe he's opening the door to to real like politics really just becoming sort of entertainment.
01:06:45
Speaker
So like an OnlyFans star becomes. Yeah, exactly. And then part of part of the shtick is like still showing their sex stuff while they leave the country. Yeah, like in the Oval Office is where they're where they're doing it.
01:06:57
Speaker
Okay. Okay. Well, then i'm I'm fucking moving to Costa Rica and I'll be right next to you. You could. i Maybe OnlyFans. They should sponsor us. We mentioned OnlyFans.
01:07:08
Speaker
Well, whoever. Yeah. ah That might be where we're going though. You think there'll be more absurdity? Actually, that i have a little more optimistic take. I think it's going to- Well, going to be this melding of all the crap that's poisoning us right now, this sort of online image and all that crap, and then someone will still be a politician. So because that, you're going to get that sort of self, like too much self that that you don't really want your politician your president. It's going to be a lot of like selfies and- Like he's he's he's crossed us and he crossed politics into social media like single handedly.
01:07:44
Speaker
Like pumping shit out on Twitter and putting messages out. Now everybody had to do it. Everyone has to do it. Give me a historical reference in in America of somebody that's acted like him and said all this shit and done all this shit he's done.
01:07:56
Speaker
And and a it's no one. So that opens the door for like what's next. i mean you might be right, there might be a correction, but I think it'll probably you'll fight keep going in this direction. Yeah.
01:08:08
Speaker
I think you're right. I think we should probably work on appealing to the stupidest fucking people in our country and making sure that... It's going to happen whether you think it' like it or not. But I think we should appeal the stupidest fucking idiots in the country and make sure that they're the only ones voting and they get to choose the stupidest fucking idiots for the rest of our life.
01:08:26
Speaker
So there's my take, buddy. The pushback's going to be hard, too. So the other side's going to be intense, too. like in in the fight. I mean, i think it's it's not going in the right direction. I think he might, we might, just like we look at, like I said, George Bush, I think we might look back and be like, well, try at least least Trump didn't do this, and it's going to be something absolutely ridiculous.
01:08:48
Speaker
At least Trump wasn't getting buttfucked on the Oval Office as he sipped gin and juice and smoked a fucking blunt. ah Yeah, maybe, buddy. I don't think there's any. You think after four years there's a correction and everything and and we get more of a political presence and of personality?
01:09:06
Speaker
I don't think there's going to be any more political movement that will be more absurd. More silly. There may be one that's more violent. There may be one that's more fascist.
01:09:17
Speaker
There may be one that's more communist. But absurd. WWE absurd. We're at the pinnacle. What else can we do, bro?
01:09:28
Speaker
What else? Yeah, I mean, what did you think about, if you look back at where we got here, like, I don't know. So you have Reagan was an actor, Schwarzenegger becoming the governor of California.
01:09:39
Speaker
That seemed kind of crazy at the time. Or Jesse the Body Ventura. Like, those were big events. like were those those the Were those anywhere close to this? No.
01:09:50
Speaker
I think what then what you're talking about really is just this individual personality that's toxic. It's a personality that has taken hold and people are embodying and embracing it with such fervor. But look, dude, people are embracing toxicity now. People loved Reagan. Okay. And if you listen to Reagan, he sounds fucking amazing and he sounds balanced and he sounds principled and he sounds like all the things you would expect to have in a leader. Now he may not be the leader,
01:10:18
Speaker
that has all the policies that I would agree with, but I can respect it. If you look at Schwarzenegger, despite his stupid fucking accent, he also has that level of thought.
01:10:30
Speaker
And he has a humbleness and that it's not just about him in the political context. And a true love for USA. Yes, a true, as a true love for it as an immigrant who's had so much success here. And he'll talk about that.
01:10:43
Speaker
There's nothing of the sort. There is just a celebrity persona that does crazy shit that we won't ever see again. Do you really think if J.D. Vance takes over, he's going to fucking start acting cray like Trump does?
Speculation on Future Political Figures and Leadership Trends
01:11:00
Speaker
No, that that guy probably would be – I think he he he probably could run for president in few years and probably win, and that might be that might be a relief. Or would you still be like, hey, we got another crazy right-wing guy? think he's a sycophant psycho, dude. I'm not sure.
01:11:15
Speaker
But I will tell you that nobody's going act as clownish and cartoonish and as absurd. as Donald J and the people around him who fucking suck his dick. it's like It's like we're in an episode of The Apprentice every week, dude.
01:11:30
Speaker
It's really like we're in an episode. it's like It's like the world doesn't even mean anything. And it's interesting. I don't see it going any more absurd. You can see, though, how that the effect, like like for a while there, Mark Cuban was like kind of a hot candidate. And and and at the end of the day, him and his family he didn't want to do it. But people are starting to look that way, you know, like because The Apprentice, I think people are starting to look as those type of personalities as...
01:11:54
Speaker
as potential leaders and so that's why that's why i think maybe they'll never be as absurd as him but i think what he did might become the norm we don't look for necessarily like a state senator or something you're looking for like some some some guy that's outspoken and has some money or something i think that might be the impact that he that he had but once you do that though like you might get a mark cuban and seems like he had his head on his shoulders you might get Fine. look look at Look at Elon Musk. matt like you You give him a little couple of microphones and all of a sudden you're like, what's going on with this guy?
01:12:27
Speaker
Everyone thought he was just like the smartest, richest guy in the world. Nope. Kind of crazy. I don't want that. I don't want the absurdity. I just want a guy that listens to people. Dude, I don't i mean i just can't imagine ah can't imagine that this is the end of it. but All right. Well, we'll see.
01:12:45
Speaker
We'll mark this time in our lives and come back to this episode and we'll see who is right. He'll be unique in his personality and his takes, but like he's probably pushed the needle enough where he where someone like him or someone who's kind of come up like him, not necessarily through politics, is going to be the norm.
01:13:00
Speaker
I'll say that. Maybe his his sort of free flowing, just you he wakes up every day, you don't know what he's gonna do. Maybe that'll calm down because somebody somebody will have to be kind of the antithesis of that. but and authentic An authentic personality, Matt.
01:13:18
Speaker
Authentic. You think he is or you're saying that's what we need? No, no, he's not. ah There's no authenticity. There's ah there's a caricature. There's a deep compulsion.
01:13:29
Speaker
I think he is authentic to that. like You think behind the scenes he's somebody else? There's a shamelessness that has never been seen in this country, in the world, in terms of our leadership.
01:13:40
Speaker
I will sleep perfectly every night no matter what I say, no matter what I do, no matter who I fuck with. That's going to be the norm, dude. What I fuck up, I will sleep perfectly every night because I know I can come back here, talk some shit, blame some other people, ah change my mind.
01:13:59
Speaker
It doesn't matter because I got this group of MAGA followers who will never leave my side. This idea like, well, at least they own it, dude. It's going to, we'll see. We should we should wager.
01:14:11
Speaker
It won't happen in our lifetime. What do you and I at our age? We got about three more presidencies before we check out. Three?
01:14:21
Speaker
No, dude, we got more than that.
01:14:26
Speaker
I think you're probably, think you're probably many years away from getting a candidate that you want. And, but I also think, and before we die, yeah. That's your take. you No, I think before you die, there's going to be someone who makes Trump look like a pretty calm, even keel guy who's running our country.
01:14:44
Speaker
Oh my God. That's a, that. Now I see you're buying into absurdity. Calm. Okay. No, because that person is going to be fucking a truly, like a, just a bad pick based on things that don't have anything to do with being a leader.
01:15:00
Speaker
It'll probably be a woman, huh, Matt? If she is probably going to be smoking.
01:15:20
Speaker
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01:15:45
Speaker
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