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Young Justice Season 2 Ep 9-14
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The metaphorical train that is our Young Justice Season 2 coverage keeps chugging ahead at full speed!
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Introduction to Animation Deliberation Podcast
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All right. Welcome back to the animation deliberation podcast, the podcast where we take action animation and cartoons seriously, but not too seriously.
Young Justice S2 Episodes 9-14 Coverage
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On this episode, we are continuing our coverage of young justice season two. We're tackling episodes nine through 14. We're going to get into all that and more right after this.
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Hosts' Introduction and Banter
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Sing along if you know the words.
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A one, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of our favorite action animated series. Yeah!
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All right. Welcome back, folks. This is another exciting episode of Animation Deliberation. I'm your host, Jay Scottie St. Clair, and joining me, as always, is our resident Young Justice aficionado, Zuhair Ali. What's going on, Zuhair? What's up, buddy? I haven't talked to you in a whole 30 seconds. It's been so long. It's been so long, Steve. It's been so long.
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As I mentioned, we are continuing our coverage of Young Justice.
Comparing Young Justice and Invincible
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We did take a little deviation to cover a new show on Amazon called Invincible. So hopefully during the course of this recording, we do not get too mixed up and start to blur the two because they're both such high quality shows, but they do have unique identities. So I don't think that's really anything too much to worry about. If you're watching Young Justice with your kids, do not let them watch Invincible.
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Do not. Very important. Do not. Very important. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. It's basically like the boys animated as a little precursor. Expect that level of gore, so. Anyway, we're not here to talk about Invincible anymore. We're here to talk about Young Justice, chiefly Young Justice invasion. And the first part of this season,
The Reach and Blue Beetle's Origins
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we've had this threats this invasion ongoing the light has partnered with this unknown partner which i have it's it's funny i've been speculating about for so long over the over the course of these few episodes and i was definitely picking up on some things but then just right out of the gate we get introduced to who this partner is pretty quickly and that's a major thrust going forward and that is the reach this alien civilization
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that is very much tied into Blue Beetle's origins. You know, I kind of mentioned in the past episode, I thought it was interesting that they were going a different direction with the Jaime Reyes version of Blue Beetle in terms of it being AI that Ted Kord created. And lo and behold, they're not going that direction. They are actually embracing the comic origin that I was familiar with, that it is an extraterrestrial weapon. Do you feel good about yourself?
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Say again. Do you feel good about yourself? Just a little bit. I feel like I've been so off base in terms of the rest of my speculation that this did feel kind of good to be right on the money. Victory! The show did pretty much broadcast it.
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But outside of that, the Reach revelation and how that ties into Blue Beetle, Aqualad was certainly a major character for certain parts of this arc as well as everything that we've discussed before. He was revealed to be a traitor, and then after that revealed to be a double agent.
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He gets the opportunity to participate in some pretty impactful events. So I'll kind of let you take the reins here, Zuhair.
Aqualad's Double Agent Role and Miss Martian's Powers
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You, as always, selected this particular set of episodes and curated this particular episode arc for us to discuss. So with that kind of caveat of Aqualad that I mentioned, go ahead and take the reins and let us know why you broke things down the way you did.
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Yeah, I think you got most of it. One of the primary things I wanted to reveal is who the partner was. There was a lot of hints throughout the conversations between the Croatians and their fear of blue beetle. So I really wanted to get to the point that not only is it a black beetle, but there's a green beetle as well.
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they inhabit different planets they inhabit different species and there's a there's a lot of lore that goes behind the The beetle family that we're gonna be diving into a lot. We got a good taste of it here But it definitely sets up on the events to come but the other big storyline is that we've also talked in the past about how Miss Martian has gotten a little power crazy with her I'm gonna be blunt her mind fucking abilities because she's really been messing some people up and
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Calderon, in his back and forth with Mount Justice, has been victim to that. There's been a lot of back and forth, there's been a lot of trust issues, there's been a lot of insecurities on how their plane is going and their secret of keeping Artemis alive. And then we got a couple of side stories here and there, especially with
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the runaways, but I can't they become essential on what's going on with the storyline between Collider and what their what the light subjective is With their partnership with the reach and what they're trying to do with the metahuman gene So I feel like these episodes covered that a lot before we go into what may be our last section that wraps up this season Okay, yeah
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That definitely makes sense. And in
The Reach's Manipulation of Public Perception
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terms of the Reach's ultimate goal with this meta gene, it's Aqualad himself, when he's introduced to the Reach, and as he's being introduced to the Reach, it's kind of like we, the audience, are also being introduced to the Reach. He very quickly picks up on the fact that they want to isolate and weaponize the meta gene. So yeah.
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interesting that we the audience have that information but right as you know the team discovers who this partner is and starts to get an inclination of what their ultimate goal is the reach basically pulls the rug out from under them and takes all the momentum that they had going forward with this investigation it's almost like all these sacrifices that the team has made especially Aqualad almost seem all for naught because the light or excuse me
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Not the light, the reach, just come out and say, hey, here we are. We want to share our stuff and we want to be friends. And the public seems to buy right into it, you know.
Political Intrigue Involving the Reach
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What's the guy's name? Gordon Godfrey? Yeah, G. Gordon Godfrey.
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mouthpiece that's been trashing the league the entire time. He's hook, line, and sinker for these guys. I don't know much about that character if he's adapted from the comics at all, but I'll be interested to see if he's not just like a puppet for the Reach because he's really been dragging the Justice League through the mud.
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Yeah. Fuck the reach for just kind of spilling in front of God for that. Not only is there a watchtower, but that leaguers are like intergalactic criminals. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's that, uh, that Senator that just like he's right on the same page, just lapping up every word that the, um, the reach ambassador has in Senator Zing. Yeah. And his response to that is like,
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Galactic criminals like what aren't you telling us and then he's just so quick to to side with the reach It's a little unsettling but it just kind of shows the faultings of Captain Adam as a leader as well we kind of alluded to that in the in the previous coverage that he was very militaristic and no nonsense
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So keep in mind that in the first episode that this was the same senator that the Krolotan was posing as. So we've seen him before and he's had this firsthand experience with being taken over by these aliens. So you see his discomfort of like the reliability of the Justice League and seeing that there's a species that's actually like willing to communicate with Earthlings.
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Yes, yes, and that does perfectly kind of set them up for that foil later on, where the Reach can kind of use it as an opportunity to be like, oh, you guys see all of us aliens as the same when that senator would have had the direct contact with the Krolote and so, yeah.
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Great point to bring that up, but it definitely gives some more context to that scene that I didn't pick up as much of a character that Senator Zing has become. I should have recognized him from his previous appearance, so yeah. Thanks for pointing that out. You were just so excited about Lobo in that episode.
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Well, yeah, now we finally, I guess actually maybe we know that they were the competitor to the Krolotans, but I'm not sure if we still know who the main man is. I wonder if that might be Black Beetle, because I'm pretty confident that Black Beetle was the silhouetted figure that we saw with Sportsmaster when they destroyed the Appalachian Gollum. I think so.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. For the sorry, I got it mixed up with with Molina Island because there was another shadow figure in that. But yeah, Black Beetle was definitely the one that was the one who interfered with the Appalachian. So I think he's the partner that the Krolotans referring to and Blue Beetle is the competitor.
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Oh, because they're like holy, because remember they were scared of him. They were like, holy shit. Like even, um, who was it that pointed out? Uh, Lagann pointed out, it was like, Oh, they're afraid of you. And he was like, I don't know why it's because they're familiar with the beetle. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Okay. All right. Yeah. That definitely, um, that all ties together pretty nicely. So many answers.
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Yes, yes, yes. But you mentioned Molina Island and the bombing there, and that was certainly set up for something that happened pretty early on in this particular set of episodes that we're covering.
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In episode nine, which was titled Darkest, I kind of like there was a particular set of episodes and it was like we got episode nine was titled Darkest and then the following one, episode 10 was called Before the Dawn, which is just a nice homage to, you know, the night is always darkest just before the dawn. But I assure you, the dawn is coming. I was also thinking of the breaking Benjamin album called Dark Before Dawn, but that's music related, totally unrelated.
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Eh, it's all connected, well, oops, wrong, wrong universes. I was gonna say it's all connected. In the great multiverse, Amalgam universe, it is all. That's a little taste in the life of Zu.
Destruction of Mount Justice
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Cool. Yeah, Breaking Benjamin, we'll save that one. We'll put that in our back pockets. Remember that, guys.
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But yeah, no, the reason I bring that up is because yeah, obviously Aquilad has this opportunity, you know, previously we had the whole fake out of him killing Artemis to get, you know, solidify his position in the light and get the knowledge of this partner, the Reach. So he basically, you know, brings this alien technology, which is revealed to be the Reach, this bomb, and blows up Mount Justice, which is
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a pretty, pretty impactful thing in terms of the series. This has been our home just as much as it's been the home of many of these characters. You know, Superboy lived at Mount Justice as well as McGann, Beast Boy. You know, I couldn't help but notice when Beast Boy was sitting there in bed right before he got taken out by the terror twins, Tuppence, he was watching Hello Meghan. Yeah, he was missing his mom.
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Yeah, yeah, he's such a sweet character, but yeah. Really quick detour from that. I love how when they first met Green Beetle, they were like, oh yeah, Martians love their TV shows. Yeah, who is that? Nightwing? Yeah. All Martians love TV. When you bring up Green Beetle, he has that great moment too, in terms of getting some comic relief in these pretty heavy proceedings that were taking place. That big smile was so cute.
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Yeah, the big goofy smile and even McGann is like freaked out by it. But yeah, back to the explosion, like that broke my heart because we see in the future when... What was the guy's name? Neutron?
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Yes, Neutron. I always have to remember Jimmy Neutron to get back to that. But Neutron is like, you see that his scars and everything are gone, but Mount Justice is still blowing up. And you see that there's like a lot of stuff that still happens in this world that leads up to the events. It wasn't just one thing. And this is one of the big things like, yeah, that thing was solved. But like a lot of other shit was happening at the same time. And Mount Justice had to be collateral damage for their mission to potentially be a success.
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They played their cards pretty close to the vest. Wally even brings it up when he kind of lays into Nightwing for why it takes such big risks and whatnot. If a single one of you had been left behind, think about what could have happened. And I couldn't help but notice it was pretty convenient that Mal just so happened to have been rebuffed by Karen that evening and was able to, you know,
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Right, right. And it was a pretty, you know...
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Be in the position to see the explosion happen and make it To the new genosphere just in time to
Nightwing's Leadership Challenges
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to get Nightwing because Nightwing just slipped into the water had Mal not been there Nightwing would have drowned. Yeah, that would have been it. So and I'm glad you brought that moment up because There's a few things that were really huge in that scene
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one of the first ones is between Nightwing and Superboy because you see that Nightwing is starting to have his like disconnect from the OG team because he was like how could you just talk about a place like it's just a place we'll find something new it had to be like collateral damage for this and then he has a conversation with Kid Flash about like
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he's under so much pressure about the league not being full capacity and Hiding this and dealing with this and being responsible for a team that was like the only thing that we can do at this point and just Be like it's gonna be fine. It's gonna be fine I have to believe it's gonna be fine because like I don't know what else to do like he's he's in a state of panic To the extent that panic reaches somebody is that's part of the bat family like it doesn't show but it's like You can tell this is this is panic for his standard
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And somebody had brought up in the stranded panda chat as some feedback about how we're very positive when we talk about the show and how one of the things that we don't talk about is like how cringy Kid Flash was in season one when he like fell for McGahn like within 10 seconds and was just like saying the weirdest things.
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Yeah, my mindset. Sorry, I'm going to finish this real quick. My mindset on that point was it was it was interesting because I understand the demographic of what the show was going towards and who they were reaching out to. So I wanted to focus on good storytelling, more on stuff that I knew wasn't catered for me watching.
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but now looking at a story development point of view like he was so cringy at that point but you see the development and the growth of him as a character where it's just kind of like him flirting with the first girl to come in to him being like this this is fucking Artemis we're talking about like you don't risk my girlfriend's life like this like
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he's constantly worried he's freaking out it's on the like it's on his mind like you see the development of him actually not only knowing how to make a relationship with a woman at this point but it's like this is like genuine love that he's depicting too and it's really strong and all the scenes that he has where he's expressing his affections for Artemis is so damn powerful that's the level of development just within a season
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Granted, it's been five years, but within a season is phenomenal, especially with Kid Flash. Yeah, we really don't get to spend a ton of time with him, but that is a great point you bring up. I mean, even in terms of how much he was used for comic relief in season one, Nightwing even brings up that he's sorry about his souvenirs.
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Wally pushes him and is like really, really visibly upset with him. And it's rare that it's rare that we see that kind of emotion and seriousness out of Wally to begin with. But yeah, just like you, like you mentioned, it just goes to show how far that character has come where he used to be the souvenir guy. And now that's gone on onto like characters like Beast Boy and Impulse. And there's even that little kind of
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funny joke where Blue Beetle tells Impulse, he's like, oh, that's Beast Boy's things. He's like, oh, really? I thought it was Kid Flash's thing. But I did want to go back to the feedback you mentioned. Like you mentioned, he did point out the Kid Flash humor was, you know,
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rubbed him the wrong way and it's worth bringing up you know the show is over 10 years old at this point so are going on 10 years old so not all of the humor lands but one thing i did notice is how that kind of humor is still there a little bit but they did a good job of like taking it away from the heroes and the people that were supposed to like and and you know kids that are watching the show would potentially model model themselves afterward
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They take it away from a character like Kid Flash and they assign it to somebody like Icicle Jr. He has those moments with Tuppence, Terror. And I did just want to bring up, I think I mistakenly mentioned it on a previous cast, but I always pay attention to character designs and what the animators are doing in that regard. In five years, Tommy Terror has become a behemoth of a man. The dude is giant compared to the last time we saw him.
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I have one more comparison of that sort. Okay. I didn't think about this the first hundred times I watched this show, but Billy Batson is 15 now.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. We got to see him ever so briefly in his Billy form. Actually, Shazam didn't really show up much at all outside of that one episode appearance, right? Where he fought off against Despero. Correct. That was because the Justice League is worn so thin right now. That was basically the only exposure that had been they were moving the stuff into the Hall of Justice, which got beat to shit just like Mount Justice did.
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Yeah, I definitely made note of that. We got Mountain Justice destroyed, and in the span of two or three episodes, the Hall of Justice is also destroyed.
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Zatanna kicked ass in that episode though. Like I know at first the third eye kind of kicked in with Despero and kind of pulled her out of commission. But the second she was back in, the way she clapped her hands, got the spell and just went straight into action and just like messed Despero up. I was like, that's hurt. That's fucking awesome. I was so glad she got that opportunity. I'm a huge fan of Zatanna in case I haven't made that clear yet.
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Yeah, yeah, we know we know but for good reason she's an awesome character and it was really good to To see her again, even though like like you mentioned she got kind of taken out early it was awesome that she was able to like bounce it right back to him and special shout out to Despero's his little robot lackey Elrond and
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I love that dude. Yeah. He was pretty hilarious with his, his commentary and his spectating and the whole complimentism and poor sportism. Yeah. I was like, dude, how are you going to ambush a fucking planet right now? Call out champions and start like destroying shit out of nowhere and then call them cheaters. Like, no, that's not how civilized people work. Yeah. Um, and then that, uh, you can take any other heads you like master.
00:21:25
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Yeah, as much as that episode kind of felt a little removed from the rest of the proceedings, I couldn't help but notice the fact that Captain Adam acknowledged that he couldn't think of a good excuse not to turn over Despero to the Reach. So that really makes me wonder in terms of like their whole search for the metagene, were they aware of Despero? Did they send Despero? Are they going to do something with Despero because
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Like the show always does. I doubt this is a one and done appearance for him, but I have a theory. OK. I feel like Despero's appearance happened because of what Vandal Savage did in making the Justice League known. In other galaxies, OK, because he made it very clear that the Justice League attacking. Was it Rand Rimbour?
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Yeah, Justice League attacking Rimbour is what put Earth on the map for potential attacks. Yeah. And you see that the lackey robot was mentioning that
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Superman was the most powerful from earth, but he was on trial right now and they were under the guardian of the green lanterns protection So they're familiar with how like the police system In the galaxy works and they're trying to do their headhunting Within the loopholes. Okay, so it's like earth has no protector right now. There's nothing to stop us Let's go find our champion over there. So I feel like what vandal savage did just kind of like
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It's similar in MCU where Loki bringing the Chitauri in and the Avengers being to hold them back. They have the dialogue with Thanos, so it just kind of like hurts on the map now.
00:23:20
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Yeah. We can show that like Earth's heroes are capable of holding out a bigger attack. And that's exactly what's happening to Earth in the Young Justice universe right now. I can't help but think about right now. I know one of the things that took place earlier on in the season was the launch of the Zeta Shield. So I'm wondering, did we get context as to how Despero was able to get through the Zeta Shield?
00:23:48
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My understanding was just some sort of teleportation ability. Okay. Okay, and not so much data tech. Okay. I was just wondering if maybe I could be wrong That's my that's my guess right now. So if anybody knows for certain then feel free to correct us. Yeah Yeah
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00:24:54
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Yeah. Uh, I guess we've kind of already danced around it a little bit, but, uh, you know, Oh, actually I'll ask you, do you want to, do you want to dive more into, um, Aqualad and McGann and what happened there?
McGann's Mistake and Artemis's True Status Revealed
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Or do you want to dive into blue beetle and some of the revelations we got there as well as his relationship with impulse? Our cliffhanger lands with the beetle. So let's cover Aqualad right now.
00:25:22
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OK, sounds good. And I mean, it kind of ties into what we were mentioning before in terms of him having to, you know, he solidified his leadership and whatnot within the light and gained access to this information and was able to interact with the reach. But the primary goal there was to provide a way to rescue
00:25:46
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Lagoon Boy, as well as the other captives that were taken during the siege of Mount Justice. I keep wanting to say Mount Doom, and that just shows my proclivity to Lord of the Rings. But no, it was Mount Justice. It looks a lot like Mount Doom after the fact.
00:26:05
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And now they're just mountain doomed. You heard it here first. As much as the the reach revealing themselves afterwards kind of makes some of his efforts seem a little futile, it's even more poignant to the fact that this information was carpet
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compartmentalized between a select few and it's while he's on board the reach this rescued effort is happening simultaneously and he just happens to run into McGann in a hallway and you know the seeds have been planted all along that McGann has been abusing her powers and she's gotten real used to taking the quick avenue to get access to information and she seems very vengeful in the moment so
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We do see poor Aqualad rendered, catatonic, and that is the side effect to what McGann does, and she gets access to all that information. She instantaneously knows what she did. She knows that Artemis is alive and is right there, and Artemis instantly is like, what did you do? And it pretty much breaks McGann. It was, you know,
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And Beast Boy was loving it. Yeah, it was kind of tough because it was such a heartbreaking moment, but Beast Boy very much is that little brother that thinks she just did something badass. But man. And it shows how heartbroken they are by Clodron's turn as well.
00:27:42
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Oh, yeah. Because I mean, what made it all the more poignant is we got to like flash through what she saw in his mind. And a lot of it was focused on their relationship together specifically. Like you got that snippet of when the the red siblings were, you know, attacking them and they were the ones, the two that are most susceptible to fire damage were encased in a fire cage. Yeah. And she's all she has for him at this point is hate and in vengeance. And man, it's yeah.
00:28:11
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The show has had so many incredible moments and jaw-dropping moments and heartbreaking moments and moments that are well deserved and earned, but this definitely ranks up there for me. Calderon has been one of my favorite characters from the get-go, and it was such a relief to find out that he was not as duplicitous as we thought.
00:28:35
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And you see Megan's PTSD from what she's done now that she's had this realization when it came to fighting Despero. Yeah. And when it came to just communicating with Green Beetle, who she's communicated with Martians plenty of times before, the whole thing in season one was that she was like getting into people's head and they had to tell her, it's like, yo, you don't do this here.
00:28:58
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Yeah, but she's like she's gotten traumatized to the point where she's with another Martian and she's not comfortable using what's natural to them because of Superboy pointing out how bad she's been going about using her abilities.
00:29:19
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Yeah, and in terms of the PTSD and whatnot, it kind of shows how she's shutting down a little bit and not talking about it because we see Ligon try to reach out to her and talk to her and she ignores the call. And it's not until he directly confronts her and says, hey, can we go talk?
00:29:43
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Unfortunately, that conversation gets cut short when we finally get the introduction of Deathstroke, who was really badass. I'll look forward to getting into him a little bit here. Oh, you saved me asking. While we're on the subject of it, I mean, yeah, we got that...
00:30:00
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incredible action sequence where it does such a good job of like showcasing what is cool about Deathstroke in such a short amount of time just from like before he waits to like spring into action like we've seen a lot of the characters do on both sides uh good and evil he's tactical in the fact that he he blinds his enemy
00:30:21
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with the shine from his sword which was so so cool and so well animated and then he springs into action and then just with the dialogue we find out you know that he he doesn't want the battle to end so quickly because he actually savors the art of combat and you know he mentions that by bringing in allies he's basically pushed up the timetable
00:30:45
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Now this is a little bit of speculation because I know there's certain versions of Deathstroke where he has a low level of like superhuman enhancement. Do you think this Deathstroke possesses that or do you think it's more like Batman and Nightwing level tactical ability? Well, we haven't seen too much of them. So at this point in time, I haven't seen anything that would lead me.
00:31:11
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to think it's something other than Batman level ability, unless, unless I'm just not picking up on something. Was there something seated that you thought I should have picked up on that? Maybe I didn't. Oh, I'm not thinking about it just now either, but he was going up against a buffed out lagoon as well. So that's kind of what made me think about it. So I was just wondering like, if, if that was something that crossed your mind or if it's just something that's just happened to pop into mind just now.
00:31:38
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Uh, no, I hadn't really considered it too, too intently. I was mainly just focused on some of the tactics he was implementing. And like I said, just kind of trying to pay attention to as much of the dialogue as possible. Um, but on the other side, uh, it was
00:31:56
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I mean to see McGann go up against Tigress aka Artemis was pretty cool and even Tigress had that moment like you know you need to make this look good and then she hurls the car at her that she ducks under it just at the last second she's like alright it doesn't need to look that good. I love her dialogue so much.
00:32:16
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Yeah. And that whole episode, I really liked how she was given the opportunity to kind of act as like a pseudo narrator. And one of the recurring jokes was like any time she was presented with like a new challenge or like the situation was like suddenly complicated, her response was perfect and she would say it out loud and then in her head. But it was much more sarcastic when she said exactly. I kind of wish the name of the episode was perfect just the way that she did that so often. Yeah, right. That would have been good.
00:32:47
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Just while we're kind of talking about Tigress and that episode in particular, she got one of the funnier moments for me too and it was kind of funny that it was Black Manta that was given the opportunity to provide some comic relief when basically it's worth mentioning the whole reason that they had to kidnap McGahn and stage that fight in the first place is because they're trying to use McGahn to
Sportsmaster and Cheshire's Plot Against the Light
00:33:10
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rebuild Kaldor's fractured mind but basically she takes Artemis in there into his mind space and we get this really cool inception in the ruins of Atlantis where Tula is kind of the subconscious attacking these intruders but
00:33:27
Speaker
Anyway, Artemis has been standing there for, we don't know how long a time, and Black Manta puts his hand on his shoulder and he's like, everything okay. And she's like, I feel like I've been standing here for hours. He's like, you have, for six. I got a chuckle out of me. You're bringing a Black Manta. I really love the dynamic between him and Calderon right now.
00:33:56
Speaker
I guess for a villain to be that affection of a father was pretty interesting to see. Yeah, it is, um... They've bonded quite a bit in the time that they've, like, truly known of each other.
00:34:09
Speaker
Yeah, it is nice to see another side to him and see that he genuinely cares for Calder because I think like the last time they kind of had a tender moment. I'm struggling to remember off the top of my head, but oh, okay. It was when Black Manta was getting the call to the light. He kind of, you know, brushed Calder to the side a little bit to go into this meeting. But no, yeah, he's really come
00:34:40
Speaker
I wouldn't say full circle because he is still very much a villain, but always nice to get a well-rounded character that shows compassion as well. But I guess one of the other things that we have to look forward to with Black Manta, and speaking of Artemis in this situation, is SportsMaster, who was a frequent player in the previous season. He's taken a little bit of a backseat this season.
00:35:06
Speaker
He basically has his whole falling out with the light, which is where we find out that Deathstroke is going to be the new enforcer in the first place. You didn't waste any time finding my replacement, did you? Yeah, so it looks like it's going to be him and Jade, aka Cheshire.
00:35:24
Speaker
I love the dynamic of you not being able to take Sportsmaster seriously to thinking he's a great character in terms of the relationship with Artemis to just being shadowed by the fact that Deathstroke's here now. It's like, oh, screw everything I thought of you and all the development you've made. Deathstroke, yay.
00:35:46
Speaker
Oh, that is pretty funny. But no, I'm excited to see where he goes now that he's had this falling out with the light and he's partnered with Jade and, you know.
00:36:00
Speaker
And the fact he wants to trade, like, a kid for a kid, it's like, uh, you killed my daughter, so I should be able to take his boy. Yeah. Just kind of shows up how, uh, shows how messed up his whole view on family really is. Yeah. It is not even because Artemis is dead. It's because his reputation's on the line. Exactly. Uh, that's what's, that's what's sad about it. I can't be a cheap buyout.
00:36:28
Speaker
It'll be interesting to see how he reacts if and when he finds out that Artemis is still around and I wonder, you know, will his relationship with the light be too far gone? Definitely something to pay attention to. I guess we were discussing McGann and kind of
00:36:55
Speaker
how she got to this point in the first place where, you know, she got to the point where she would even commit such a, a highness act. And Superboy has kind of been the one that's been calling her out this entire time. I did mention how she rebuffed Ligon's advances in terms of wanting to talk to her. But, you know, I think the
00:37:17
Speaker
The first time we see her go to John Jones' apartment in Chicago, she's just getting settled in and Superboy's right there. And no questions asked, he knocks on the door and she lets him right in. So that's another relationship that's as much as they've been butting heads and we've learned about the falling out through various dialogue.
00:37:39
Speaker
and interactions with other characters. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing them. Whatever happens with them, I don't know what's going to happen with them, but it seems like they are potentially, you know... Love triangle. Yeah, well, the love triangle's there, yeah, but it already seems pretty obvious that McGann seems more comfortable confiding in him than she does with Ligon, so... Sorry, Lagoon boy.
00:38:08
Speaker
I want to give a quick appreciation. I was pointing out that no small detail goes unnoticed in this show because when Jean Jones was leaving for his trial, he said, Hey, McGahn, can you keep an eye on my apartment and water the plants for me? Oh, yeah. Now we see that she's actually keeping up with that. That was the first shot of her filling up the pail and she was about to water the plants when Connor knocked
00:38:35
Speaker
Very good catch. I did not pick up on that myself, but yeah, like you said, no small detail. What'd you think about Arsenal on his first mission? It was pretty cool, you know. The last time we saw him is when he took on the moniker of Arsenal, so it's... I like the fact that it seems like
00:38:59
Speaker
When we see him, it's going to be in context to the grudge that he holds with Lex Luthor. At least that's what I'm imagining is going to take place going forward based on this. So yeah, again, Robin gets the opportunity to lead a covert operation. And it's just nice to see the differences between the different Robins as well there. I know I'm supposed to be focusing on Arsenal, but I feel like it's
00:39:24
Speaker
this episode in particular that we got to spend with Arsenal, most of his interaction was in, you know, I got some loud people.
00:39:34
Speaker
the interaction was definitely with some loud people. They were supposed to be covert and then just boom. Yeah. Yeah, most of most of Arsenal's interactions were with Tim Drake as the as the team lead. And he definitely was a loose cannon. No pun intended. It was a covert operation and he kind of
00:39:56
Speaker
through caution to the wind with his vendetta. But I appreciated the fact that at the end of the episode when Nightwing was kind of having the debrief with Tim, Tim didn't throw Arsenal under the bus. He just said he's a little rough around the edges. So nice to see that Tim's not a tattletale.
00:40:16
Speaker
Yeah, Tim did a fantastic job in his leadership role as well, too. He was really quick to come up with solutions and analyze his enemy and work with the team and just be able to get all the information out quick, even when a new member was added in Green Beetle. So hats off to him for how quick he is on his toes.
00:40:38
Speaker
Well, right before we got that introduction of Green Beetle, which I'm excited to talk about that character a little bit more because that was a really cool reveal. And we got multiple revelations with that character. That'll be fun to get into. But just before that, you know, we have this this covert team that
00:40:57
Speaker
their covert operations as unceremoniously interrupted by Arsenal's actions and so they have to go toe-to-toe with Black Beetle and in this fight in particular Black Beetle was so quippy
00:41:12
Speaker
And yeah, even Blue Beetle acknowledges you're toying with us, aren't you? But the line that I just had to mention is when Blue hits him with his plasma beam, and he's like, ah, nothing like a nice plasma bath to calm the nerves and wipe off the tomato juice.
00:41:31
Speaker
And then when he got hit with the... I think it was the waves, he was like, the tomatoes hurt more than that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? You're hitting me with fruit? Yeah, yeah.
00:41:47
Speaker
He's so cocky. I love the dialogue. Impulse was there, too, and Impulse got some good comedic interactions there, too, because I remember when they were going basically through the tour of the LexCorp Reach facility, and everyone's taking samples of the fruit, and he's just sitting there biting into an apple. I'm just in character here. Even when Blue Beetle picked him up to fly away, it's like, you know I could get there first, right? Where are we going?
00:42:18
Speaker
Yeah, I love it so much. Impulse is such a great addition.
00:42:22
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And I know we mentioned we were supposed to be getting on to a green beetle here, but I'd be remiss if I didn't just take an opportunity to focus on the relationship between impulse and blue beetle.
Blue Beetle's Future Revelation
00:42:34
Speaker
And I just love it so much, especially in episode nine, where they kind of had that dick measuring competition, for lack of a better term. It's like, what you got? And blue is just taking every opportunity you can to blow up boulders.
00:42:50
Speaker
Impulse his response, you know, it's it's subtle He's such a light-hearted and breezy character, but we know The future that he comes from is anything but that but he's able to like sprinkle in any things He's like if I know anything about coming from the future, it's that it's it's much easier to destroy than create I just love that. Yeah, you zoom out and get to see he's made this self portrait that he took 1.6 seconds to create and is uh his masterpiece so
00:43:20
Speaker
We did get the one, I think in this set of episodes, it was the one flash to the future where we got to see a really buffed up version of Blue Beetle. So I don't know if that was Jaime Reyes or the Black Beetle with the Blue Scarab or what, but. I honestly have no idea. Yeah.
00:43:44
Speaker
I'm at that point where it's like I remember flashes of what comes up but I don't remember like exactly how things go so I'm being pretty genuine and like actually not knowing where this is going right now.
00:43:55
Speaker
I mean, it's it's a lot of content and a lot of story and a lot of characters. So now I don't hold that against you at all. But, you know, Impulse does share this this quote unquote prophecy with Blue Beetle. And so that's definitely a major thing for his character that having this weight and having this knowledge and they initially decide to keep it between themselves. But we get what I like to call the Black Canary Black Canary Therapy Sessions 2.0.
00:44:27
Speaker
Where he basically lets everybody know what's up and he wants to get the scarab off of him At any cost like whatever it takes and they're like that's it's probably gonna be the cost of your life, but then
00:44:39
Speaker
We didn't spend a lot of time with Bumblebee or the Atom, but that was a pretty cool sequence where they shrunk down and tried to, you know, remove the Scarab from a microscopic level. I kind of immediately knew what was going on, but it was still cool to see. The antibodies kicking in was really awesome too.
00:44:57
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It just, it just goes to show. And even the scarab says it to Heidi Ray is like, I told you that approach wouldn't work. So it is really, really stuck into him. So, and not letting go. It's really interesting that because of the Martians physiology, his ability is what gives him the option to actually shut his scarabs AI up.
00:45:27
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that was definitely, definitely cool to see. And I loved with Green Beetle's introduction when, who was it that was going down the checklist of abilities? That was Robin, right? He was like, shapeshifting, density phasing. Oh, and that clinches. He's like, all we're missing is the mind control. And then he was like, and then he like gets in their head right away. He's like, oh, yep, he's Martian. Yep, yep. He's like, heroes of Earth, I've established this link.
00:45:56
Speaker
Yeah, I was so excited when we got that reveal because, I mean, Blue Beetle has been cool enough and had some of the best action.
Green Beetle's Introduction
00:46:04
Speaker
And then we get the introduction of Black Beetle, who is absolutely terrifying, is basically the terminator of this show. And now, Green Beetle. And it's just like everything that's cool about a Martian combined with everything that's cool about a beetle. And I gotta admit, we get the ultimate revelation that
00:46:26
Speaker
him rebooting the Scarab and giving Jaime total control was actually the opposite of what we thought. It's the Scarab that's in full control now. It was a little tough for me to come to terms with that, and I'm hoping maybe we'll get some redemption down the line or maybe the opportunity for another switching of sides, maybe of allegiances there.
00:46:53
Speaker
One can hope, one can hope, but it's definitely ominous at this point in time and in terms of where we leave off with the cliffhanger. Did you want to say anything else about Green Beetle in particular?
00:47:07
Speaker
I already mentioned my favorite scene of him of, uh, the smile when he was trying to make everybody more comfortable. Yeah. I mean, he's like, he's super open with the teams. Just like, yo, I got nothing to hide. I'm just here to help. But they're like, you hear a little bit of like Mars origin too. Cause like he's familiar with the white Martians. And he was talking about how like he's had the scarab he's been hiding on Mars, but he's had no reason to come to earth. But understanding that the reach was over there was like, what made him go, Oh, let me go help with it. Cause they might need for this. Yeah.
00:47:37
Speaker
Yeah, I just I love I love his dynamic. He's so polite. He looks so cool being able to shape shift and use his Martian powers like along with the beetle. Like you say, like it's all the best qualities about beetle along with the best qualities of a Martian. I mean, McGann's the only one that we consistently consistently see. We don't even have any type of like Martian villains. We just see Jean from time to time. So being able to go more into Martian territory is really cool.
00:48:07
Speaker
Yeah, agreed. And then I can't help but like think of the fact he volunteered his thoughts to McGahn, but was still able to, you know, mask his
00:48:19
Speaker
his betrayal. So I wondered how he was able to accomplish that if it's his skill level as a telekinetic or if it's just showcasing how broken McGahn is at that point in time in terms of not being able to pick up on that.
00:48:40
Speaker
But, you know, having said all of that about Green Beetle, the other characters that figure pretty heavily into Blue Beetle and Jaime Reyes are this group of abductees that the Reach were experimenting on that have actually started to manifest powers.
Introduction of New Metahumans
00:49:01
Speaker
And one such individual is Jaime Reyes' good friend, Ty, who went missing in our previous coverage.
00:49:10
Speaker
Well, I bring up Ty, but now I'm kind of kicking myself for not bringing up, first and foremost, Virgil Hawkins, Mr. Static Shock himself. That was, that was really cool. They subtly, subtly introduced that character. He was in the background of, uh, I think he was, we saw him in the background as early as like episode nine. He was just kind of like hanging out there in the background. Yeah. It was the same episode where.
00:49:38
Speaker
Uh, Jaime was trying to find Ty. Oh, okay. And the, the, the one that he was abducted, like Virgil was in the, in the pods with him. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
00:49:50
Speaker
Um, so yeah, we get to see this group of kids when number one, when they escape from the reach and then number two, we find out that, uh, after this therapy session, they have gone to star labs to basically continue to be experimented on. Unfortunately, they're pretty upset about it and not, uh,
00:50:11
Speaker
happy with the rule they're under, but their escape and little escapade gives us a really nice opportunity to spend some time with them and get to know them pretty quickly, as well as get to see their powers put on full display. Yeah, I was delighted to see this version of Virgil Hawkins and Static Shock, and he's still got the manhole cover that he electrifies and flies around on, so I love to see it.
00:50:36
Speaker
There were some great foreshadowing for Ty as well, because when Jaime was trying to find him and he went to his grandfather, the chief of the community. Yes, long shadow. He talked about how Ty's full potential has been found and his higher calling is still hidden and waiting to come out. So we see that in his metahuman ability now. Yeah, he basically actually projects a giant body
00:51:08
Speaker
It's really cool. Yeah, it's very visually cool. Especially the music that goes with it, the ooooooooh. Well, somebody, one of the characters, I think it was Virgil, actually, when they were first escaping Star Labs, he's like, oh, can't tie, like, get big and lift the roof off the building. And it just kind of makes you like, what? What's his power set? What's that even going to look like? And then, yeah.
00:51:31
Speaker
We finally get to see it the first time he's just sleeping and has like a dream. And then he, you mentioned the grandfather, he actually does name drop his grandfather and talks about how he's trying to been trying to get him to focus since he was like seven years old. So now he's able to finally center himself and have full control of his power. So.
00:51:52
Speaker
Yeah, the other thing that's worth mentioning in that episode, I guess, is that's, I mean, we get the big cliffhanger reveal at the end, but that's when Jaime starts to show, you know, the first inclination that he's not fully in control because, number one, he recklessly endangers the people that are still in Star Labs when he's, you know, blasting, was it Red Volcano? We see Red Volcano make his return?
00:52:21
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah meatbags Yeah, and I love the fact that he's coming back for a mazos parts like a mazos We've only seen him once but he's he's constantly been in the background of this show as a potential lingering threat The background are on display in a museum both Yeah, yeah not untrue and yeah they
00:52:48
Speaker
Yeah, it would be pretty terrifying if Red Volcano was able to incorporate Amazos parts and, you know, have the full power of the Justice League at his disposal as well because his power was definitely amped up since the last time we saw him. He's able to basically like conjure giant seismic lava earth fists from the ground.
00:53:09
Speaker
oh yes yeah i was thinking of avatar when he was uh bringing up like the rock piece to the zeta tube i was like this earth bending right there yeah it basically was yeah that's a good call yeah so i mean i in terms of uh all the characters and whatnot i i think i think we pretty much hit
00:53:30
Speaker
Everybody that I can think of, well, I guess we did get, you know, Lex Luthor there at the end. We don't really know what the runaways decide to do there, but he certainly seems like he's recruiting them and he seems to know about Blue Beetle's betrayal as well as not being the biggest fans of the Reach anymore. But you never know with Lex. Yeah.
00:53:56
Speaker
Did you catch the, the static shock name drop in the therapy session? Yes. Yeah. I can't remember exactly how he says it, but I do remember him saying it was when he was playing with the paperclips. He actually said like he had the feeling of a static shock. And then that's when like all the paperclips like ball together. Yeah. He throws it at the table and as he's walking out, they all like come together. Yeah.
00:54:21
Speaker
Yeah, because, you know, me, I don't keep up with the prior knowledge too much, so I heard static shock, and then when I looked at him, I was like, oh yeah, there was a TV show about that. I didn't know that was DC related. And this is where I come in and say, superhero static shock. Whoop, whoop. Superhero static shock. Whoop, whoop. I don't remember much of that show. I just remember loving it.
00:54:42
Speaker
Yeah, it was great. It was great. Well, that's probably one. I don't know if we'll if we can break down episode by episode, but certainly we can do like a retroactive cover of the show as a whole. That would be fun to do. We need all this new animated content to calm down so we can cover more. Yeah, right. Previously adored series.
00:55:01
Speaker
As I am looking at my notes here, I guess the one character that she really didn't get that much to do at all, but I did want to bring her up was Wonder Girl. She got a couple of opportunities to showcase that she is a little brighter than we may have previously suspected because
00:55:22
Speaker
Nightwing has to straight up lie to her about compartmentalizing the knowledge. And then she is the one that is the first out of everybody to pick up on the fact that the Reach technology reminds her of Blue's armor. So I appreciate it. Her and Superboy teaming up to fight up Black Beetle was really cool too.
00:55:42
Speaker
Oh yeah. And then she, that was such a brutal moment too, when he was slamming her into the wall, saying that he could like put her halfway through the hard way. Man, that was, that was rough.
00:55:54
Speaker
I mean, you always mention Wonder Girl when I'm thinking about how awesome Barbara Gordon is too, because she only had like her belt just like Tim Drake did, but she was very capable of holding her own, even when all the power hitters went out. She was the last one today. She was great at communicating, and she bosses Tim Drake, not Tim Drake, she bosses Nightwing around so much. Like just giving him orders, but he's just kind of like, nope, you're right, not gonna argue it, let's do what you're saying boss. She just, she has a, she,
00:56:23
Speaker
She portrays that that essence of Batman of like when I speak you listen very well Mm-hmm. She does it better than I think Nightwing's ever done Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean we haven't seen Commissioner Gordon in this universe but between Batman and Commissioner Gordon she's she's had to get used to Telling a headstrong guys. What's up? So yeah. Yeah
00:56:51
Speaker
It's kind of annoying. The last I saw of Commissioner Gordon was in Harley Quinn. Okay. Yeah, he's pretty hysterical. Not so much the stoic gentleman that you want to look up to. So that came to my head and I was like, nope, nope, go back to a better Gordon.
00:57:09
Speaker
That is a pretty funny subversion of that character. But you did bring up Superboy teaming up with Wonder Girl for that particular fight, and it did, for whatever reason, trigger to me that we didn't bring up the fact that as much as I can't help but relate Superboy to McGahn a lot, Superboy and Nightwing did have a pretty heart-to-heart moment where
00:57:36
Speaker
After they've rescued Ligon, Nightwing's basically forced to reveal the information that Aqualad's not a traitor. And when Ligon lashes out, Superboy backs him up there in the room and in the moment. But the second they go out in the hallway and Nightwing thinks Superboy kind of lays into him, he's like, you don't give a guy a lot of options.
00:57:59
Speaker
Your decision to compartmentalize information is entirely why Aqualad is catatonic, and that's why McGann and Tigress are in harm's danger, in harm's way. That makes me think of Harm from season one. We haven't seen him again. That's not a figure you were getting towards.
00:58:19
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah, anyway, it was nice to see a real interaction like that because they are still very young characters. So as far as like Superboy has come such a long way in terms of, you know, reigning in his angst and anger, this was a very justified anger and lashing out, I thought. Oh, for sure. I mean, like I said, Nightwing's just in panic mode right now.
00:58:50
Speaker
Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, you mentioned that before and I wanted to bring up he's the one that gets the specific line of dialogue that uh, you know The reputation of the the league is at an all-time low And I imagine that's got to shake him to the core a little bit more so than than some of the other characters because he's had that intimate familiarity with the league for a long time even like as far back as like
00:59:12
Speaker
Season one when we first saw these heroes all being introduced He's always seemed like he felt a little more comfortable there than the rest of them. Am I am I wrong? Yes But this is this is a stretch. Okay, I don't I don't know how much it actually applies But it wouldn't surprise me with how this how well this show portrays things like this Do you remember the episode in season one where they had the the mind simulation of the Justice League being killed? Yes, I
00:59:42
Speaker
He had PTSD from that. He was traumatized from that. Now he's actually experiencing losing the league and losing his team. So that false reality is actually coming to fruition right now for him. That's not unfair. That's what I always appreciate about your
01:00:06
Speaker
Intimate, I talk about Robin's or Nightwing's intimate familiarity with the Justice League, but you really have that familiarity with the show. That's why you've been, you know, you've been the, the Nightwing to this podcast where I've been, I don't know who I've been, but tell me who I've been. You've been a satisfied viewer. Okay. That's all I get.
01:00:36
Speaker
Give me a red tornado. Give me something here. Anyway, I do believe that's going to bring this episode of Animation Deliberation to a close unless you've got anything else you need to say, Zuhair.
Aqualad's Mind Recovery Attempt
01:00:52
Speaker
I don't think I need to say it, but the last character that we didn't quite bring up was how they brought in Simon to try to get into Aqualad's head. Oh, yeah. Tigris kind of went out of her way to try to poison him based on sports master tactics and kind of caused him to be not usable for, well, I think they said like four weeks. So I thought that was a cool touch.
01:01:15
Speaker
Yeah. Simon's become like this kind of like psychic punching bag for the team, which is great because he terrorized them so much in that first outing, like giving them all amnesia and putting them at an all time low at that point in time anyway. Now he's just kind of become cannon fodder a bit. But yeah, they just do such a good job at like recurring characters instead of a new threat every time. Yep. Like every everything that's happened before comes back at some point.
01:01:45
Speaker
certainly does what goes around comes around all right well uh... i i think that's everything for us on uh... this episode of animation deliberation so on our next episode of young justice coverage we will be covering episodes fifteen through eighteen so if you are watching along with us uh... plan on watching those episodes in that episode will be out uh...
01:02:10
Speaker
the week after this one. And we've also begun our coverage of, that we mentioned at the top of the show, we've begun our coverage of Invincible season one on Amazon. So that show has been a lot of fun to discuss as well. So take a look for that if you're watching that as well. For me,
01:02:28
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01:02:43
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01:03:37
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