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Ep. 48: German Precision & Other Nightmares
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Join Curt and Jamie as they dive into coated-tool alchemy, German cans of death, and the eternal struggle against stupid-long gauge lengths.
They also unpack hydraulic holder upgrades, the Imperializer’s grand return, pallet fever dreams, sublimation spray sorcery, and why making tiny brass parts is sometimes better than dealing with tool steel tantrums.
It’s another episode of precision, profanity, and questionable engineering philosophy — powered by short tools, long opinions, and even longer rants.
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Transcript
Introduction & Episode Topics
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Loan Machines Podcast, where it's just you, your machines, and the work. What you got going on this week, Kurt?
00:00:07
Curt
Today I'm going to talk about how tool coatings are magic, ah how a clean shop for me is a clean brain, and the fourth axis on my style is also amazing. How about you? what are you talking about, Jamie?
00:00:18
jamie peacock
um We're going to talk about the six-day retrofit, the fact that cycle 832 is still amazing, um and that my generator can run all my machines.
00:00:29
jamie peacock
So let's hop into it.
00:00:30
Curt
Ooh.
00:00:31
jamie peacock
How are you doing this fine day, Kurt?
00:00:33
Curt
I am doing lovely. It is sunny. it is calm. Everything is lovely this morning. How about you and your your stormy land?
00:00:40
jamie peacock
It is the exact opposite. It's not. And storming like hell right now. So yeah, if there's any noise in the background, we can just blame the weather.
00:00:49
Curt
That's nice.
00:00:50
jamie peacock
Because yeah, a storm rolled in like 10 minutes ago.
00:00:50
Curt
Thunder's a nice sound. Yeah.
00:00:53
jamie peacock
So yeah, my dog, my my giant rottweiler is probably on the bed shivering because of the loud noises.
00:00:54
Curt
m
00:01:00
jamie peacock
We got, my neighbor's house got hit by lightning one night. So I got up to close our sliding door in our bedroom because it started raining and he normally sleeps on the bed. So he was awake because I got up.
00:01:11
jamie peacock
I pulled the door close. As I pulled it close, the lightning hit the neighbor's house. I got a fright. He got a fright. Like, everyone got a fright. So since then, he's been a bit touched with loud noises.
00:01:22
Curt
Understandably so, yeah. Especially when you can't reason with what it is.
00:01:22
jamie peacock
Yeah. Like, up until then, he was fine. Yeah, like, up in until then, he had actually been fine with loud noises, fireworks, and all that. But yeah, anyway, doggoes being a doggo. So yeah, ah what's what's been going on in your shop there, Kurt?
00:01:33
Curt
Cool, cool. So...
Tool Challenges & Solutions
00:01:38
Curt
Uh, no, just production. Nothing too outstandingly crazy.
00:01:41
jamie peacock
Just production, okay.
00:01:42
Curt
Yeah, it's kind of, i don't know, nothing, nothing wild, nothing crazy to report. I mean, some of the stuff that I had to report. I know I was having issues with, I think last week or a couple weeks ago, I talked about how i swapped in a tool for my Torx machine on those screws.
00:01:54
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:01:56
Curt
and dropped it in and like i had everything dialed i was making hundreds of screws and i popped in a new tool because it was broke eventually um and it made like 12 screws again and blew up and i was like what the hell like i immediately like panic because i'm like this is too like i know this tool path is good it's cut like hundreds of screws so i don't know i don't know what's up now um but i think what happened is when i ordered those little 15 thou end mills Uh, they didn't have, or they ordered me some like stub tooling that I wanted.
00:02:23
Curt
And then they had some other ones that are like, Oh, we'll just, we'll include these as well. And I don't think they were coded or they were ah slightly, there was something slightly different about them.
00:02:28
jamie peacock
Okay. Yeah. No.
00:02:31
Curt
I think it was the coding. I think I went from a ah coded tool to an uncoded. And to me, i was like, but that that's not going to make that big of a difference because I've never really had machines that would push a coding on a tool. And it's 100% the coding. When I did a i did a new NML order and I ordered only coded tooling, which I mean, it's not much more expensive.
00:02:52
Curt
And these are all going through titanium and the finishes are visibly different, even at the scale that like, yeah, I was like, wow, these are all way better.
00:03:02
Curt
And like, and same thing, the screw, the tool that's cutting screws just keeps going now. So i'm like, okay, so coding makes a huge difference.
00:03:08
jamie peacock
I would be very curious if the coating makes a difference on the Kirt.
00:03:14
Curt
It doesn't, i because I swapped them back and forth and it really didn't make, because it's, yeah.
00:03:17
jamie peacock
Okay. Because, yeah, it's a Kirt, it's not the Saal. Like, I think the coating on the Saal makes a difference. you um I would assume you're running a slightly higher RPM on the Saal.
00:03:30
Curt
Oh, very much so. Yeah, yeah.
00:03:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, okay.
00:03:31
Curt
The Kurt can max out at like 6,000 and the Sile can do 20.
00:03:32
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:03:35
Curt
So i I push it as basically as high as the SFM will allow for.
00:03:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:03:39
Curt
but yeah, like on a...
00:03:39
jamie peacock
Using all the ace of him.
00:03:41
Curt
Yeah, like the ball tools. I mean, they're all 1 16th. So you still kind of hit your SFM limit relatively quick, even with 1 16th tool, because it's still...
00:03:44
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:03:49
jamie peacock
Uh, yeah, especially in Ta.
00:03:51
Curt
is Yeah, 250 SFM isn't like, it's not it's not crazy. I can't use like, and then once you drop down to like the 15 thou, of course you can use everything it has. But um yeah, I was amazed with how big a difference it made. Like everything is shinier. Everything comes out smoother.
00:04:06
Curt
Everything lasts longer. So yeah, that's, I'm just going to use Coder tools for everything.
00:04:08
jamie peacock
Okay. Yeah. Well, now that it's making a difference for you, sure. Like on the courts have made no difference.
00:04:14
Curt
Yeah. and
00:04:15
jamie peacock
So yeah, it's yeah.
00:04:16
Curt
Zero. So it wasn't worth the, you know, 10, 15% more or whatever. So yeah, quite.
00:04:20
jamie peacock
Yeah. But now you definitely, you definitely seeing that improvement.
00:04:23
Curt
Well, and I'm 100% going to get some, like, ah just create, like, I love to go some, like, yeah even talking with Dylan, like, some Frasier tools or some Destiny tools or just some nicer tooling for my finishing.
00:04:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:04:35
Curt
um Because now that i now that I see that makes big a difference, I'm like, okay, I bet you a fancier tool would help significantly as well. So, yeah.
00:04:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, speaking of fancier tools, I reached out to Hitek today, the Shunk Agents, for price on a Tento Silver because I want to put my 6mm N-mill into a hydraulic.
00:04:55
jamie peacock
And the, so from the demo day that I did there, I learned that the Tento Silver is their economy range.
00:04:56
Curt
Oh, okay, okay.
00:05:02
jamie peacock
You wouldn't think so. It's the...
00:05:04
Curt
Tentosilver?
00:05:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, Tento Silver is the shunk economy range, where they've got all the different sizes, so you don't need reducer sleeves.
00:05:09
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:05:13
jamie peacock
Whereas I've got the Tento Slim, which has got 12, 16, 20 millimeter balls, and then you must buy sleeves. Whereas the Silver range is designed that you don't need the sleeves. They've got 6, 8, 10, 12, 16, 20, I think up 25.
00:05:29
jamie peacock
think up to twenty five um So I reached out this afternoon. I'm like, hey, want to quote because I had to swap ah in Berlin. And I'm like, I don't feel like dealing with runouts anymore. So yeah we'll see what their pricing comes back like.
00:05:42
jamie peacock
And then I might just slowly start buying some so more and more of those.
00:05:47
Curt
Cool.
00:05:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, they are really nice. Like I was using my my hydraulic today, my 12 mil, which I can only use with the stupid long end mill, but I needed the stupid long end mill so it lives assembled.
00:05:59
jamie peacock
And yeah I was making some drone arm folding mount things. And they have got to reach 45 millimeters down. So long end mill and hydraulic makes it just super easy.
00:06:11
jamie peacock
Like I swapped out and I broke in the over the weekend.
00:06:11
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:06:14
jamie peacock
put another one in lost a tooth. I was running brass. didn't really give a shit. And then I set up to run aluminium today, I think. And when I did so I put a new a brand new tool in and then mars size is different when I come to the diameter, it went from 6.01 to 6.05. So I'm like, I think I need a hydraulic for this.
00:06:38
jamie peacock
So yeah, we're looking down that road.
00:06:38
Curt
yeah
00:06:40
jamie peacock
We'll see what their price comes back tomorrow. I get the distinct feeling it's going to be a good $200 or $300 for a tool holder. But I think it's worth it.
Production & Machine Updates
00:06:51
jamie peacock
Considering that's my main, anything under 14mm wall height, that is the finishing tool I go to. So it's my main it's my main short finishing tool.
00:06:52
Curt
Yeah, I mean...
00:06:59
Curt
Totally.
00:07:01
jamie peacock
Then I've got a twelve ball which is my main long finishing tool. So I don't know. We'll see. Okay.
00:07:08
Curt
Hearing you talk about like hydraulic makes me want to try it for just one of my tools, my 316th tool, um just to see if it makes any kind of difference having just a little bit of mass around the tool.
00:07:17
jamie peacock
316ths? Alright, hang on.
00:07:19
Curt
It's like 5 mil, 4 mil.
00:07:19
jamie peacock
Guess what's back?
00:07:21
Curt
Oh, nice. The Imperializer returns.
00:07:22
jamie peacock
Yes. The imperializer.
00:07:24
Curt
0.1875.
00:07:24
jamie peacock
What is 316ths in decimal
00:07:25
Curt
Yeah, so. Maybe.
00:07:30
jamie peacock
though? 4.7mm, yeah.
00:07:35
Curt
yeah so
00:07:36
jamie peacock
Moritool might do one. That is that size, yeah, because I don't think Shank do.
00:07:38
Curt
maybe
00:07:41
Curt
Yeah, I mean, I'd be curious.
00:07:41
jamie peacock
They do millimeters. Rest of the world.
00:07:44
Curt
I mean, i can I can also just, I think the biggest difference, honestly, is going to be when I eventually go to your anchor point system and put a huge pallet in my machine, and then I can drop my gauge length on all my tools.
00:07:54
Curt
Because right now, they're like 100 mil gauge lengths.
00:07:55
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:07:57
Curt
When I can drop all those, or just maybe specifically for the roughers, um i think that would help.
00:07:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:08:01
Curt
And the finishers might.
00:08:01
jamie peacock
That'll make a big difference, yeah. Because the one I'm looking at is like 55 gauge.
00:08:03
Curt
Yeah, I think that'll make a deal.
00:08:05
jamie peacock
It's super short. Currently, the tool's in a 60 gauge, so not that much shorter.
00:08:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:11
jamie peacock
um
00:08:12
jamie peacock
You just run the first part slowly and make sure it's not going to crash into anything.
00:08:12
Curt
Yeah, little bit helps.
00:08:16
Curt
Well, isn't gauge length like ah the rigidity is like the square? So like reducing it by a little bit actually makes a huge difference.
00:08:20
jamie peacock
I would agree. Yeah.
00:08:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:22
jamie peacock
I would expect so because you're getting closer to the bearings, you the lever leverage is just getting less and less and less.
00:08:28
jamie peacock
So it looks like from what I could find on the documentation for the Tento Silvers, you need 27 millimeters inserted into the body.
00:08:28
Curt
Totally, yeah.
00:08:34
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:37
jamie peacock
And I'm cool.
00:08:38
Curt
OK.
00:08:39
jamie peacock
That is the perfect amount because my tool sticks out 22 millimeters. That is my standard stick out on my thing because then I know I can go 21 mils into a pocket and I'm not touching. And that is how the tool is set up for all anchor point manufacturing.
00:08:50
Curt
Oh, I got you.
00:08:52
jamie peacock
Everything. That is the default on the tool. If I need anything else, I build a second tool and give it a different number. Like, that is the standard in my shop. So, it'll work perfectly and hopefully improve tool life.
00:09:05
Curt
Nice. Yeah, well, let me know how it goes.
00:09:06
jamie peacock
Yeah. Because...
00:09:07
Curt
I'm curious.
00:09:08
jamie peacock
Well, I don't know if I mentioned a few weeks ago, he sends out an email to all our customers saying, order if we have to supply material, order ship by the 15th, or you're shit out of luck till January. Like, obviously, we'll try and make a plan.
00:09:18
Curt
OK.
00:09:19
jamie peacock
Got a phone call today or message from the guys at UDS. They'll do the drone landing gear. He's like, we've crashed. Wait, what was the wording he used? Because it made me very concerned. So I actually phoned him because I'm like, what what is going on? now Why are you using this word?
00:09:37
jamie peacock
While I look it up,
00:09:39
Curt
Podcast, Googling on the podcast, Googling on the podcast, it's what we do all day, all day.
00:09:41
jamie peacock
Um... Uh... Guys smashed through them all. is the term he said. I'm like, I found like, what the shit? Are they failing? Like, he said, no, no, they've just installed them all. They need more.
00:09:55
jamie peacock
I'm like, cool. I'll send you the quote.
00:09:57
Curt
Oh.
00:09:57
jamie peacock
Please push it through to finance now that I can get materials still. Like, as soon as I've got a PO, I'll order material, payment will go through on Friday. So I'm like, I'm willing to, tune i can convert just to make sure i get the material in, because there's three weeks until I'm on holiday.
00:10:06
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:13
Curt
Yeah, well, probably two, three weeks until people are mentally on holidays where they're just like, kick this into the new year.
00:10:13
jamie peacock
So...
00:10:18
jamie peacock
Yes. Well, no, that's next week.
00:10:19
Curt
so
00:10:20
jamie peacock
That is literally next week for us. People are just going to be useless.
00:10:22
Curt
Oh, really?
00:10:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:10:23
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:10:23
jamie peacock
So I'm trying i'm trying to front load work for ah ah cash flow for December. Like I went and delivered tubes today to the diesel guys. I literally just walked ups upstairs to the CEO's office. I'm like, how's it? How are you doing?
00:10:35
jamie peacock
We need to discuss what's going on here. And he's like, no, they're quiet. That's why they haven't been ordering. They've not shut the business down quite, but they're having more luck in Europe than they are locally because the guys locally are just, they're not making enough money, so they're not wanting to spend, even though they're wasting a whole lot of money on overtime that isn't actually correctly allocated.
00:10:41
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:10:59
jamie peacock
They don't want to spend the money to fix that because it's spending money. They'd rather waste the money that they currently weigh. They're battling with sales, like just battling to to figure it out but you're saying it's picking up over the last two months and hopefully into the new year it'll pick up again i'm like listen your capacity she's gone friend like that capacity's been taken up by other customers i can't keep holding your capacity he's like no no he understands he's going to speak to the financing department and be like okay cool please let jamie know that next month we're expecting this size order so i can kind of balance the um the demand and just make sure we keep some availability for them
00:11:32
Curt
Right.
00:11:37
jamie peacock
So it was a constructive constructive meeting.
00:11:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:40
jamie peacock
I didn't quite tell them to join the Good Friends Club. um But yeah, I can see he's freaking stressed. Like they their sales are down.
00:11:49
Curt
I mean, that's that's good. That's good that you at least know what's what's up as opposed to just being like...
00:11:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yes. Communication needs to be a little bit better with them. That's the big thing. Like their communication is a little bit lackluster.
00:11:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:59
jamie peacock
um But yeah, we assembled 250 tubes this morning, Danica and
00:12:04
Curt
Oh, wow. Nice.
00:12:04
jamie peacock
I definitely need to build the drillimetron with the two drills that do this because yeah, it sucks.
00:12:08
Curt
Oh, right. That, yeah, yeah.
00:12:10
jamie peacock
So I think I need to build that, but it's also a case of don't really have time to do it right now. So it can wait.
00:12:17
Curt
it's the case.
00:12:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, if they go back up to ordering decent quantities, that's going need to go to the front of the queue because drilling it sucks.
00:12:19
Curt
yeah
00:12:25
jamie peacock
I actually used a Kyocera carbide drill to drill them today. Because the shitty high speed steel drill I had was starting to call up so I'm like screw this carbide drill and just poke it one of the ones that I got from Scott machine tools, because I still need to change out all my drills to carbide.
00:12:42
jamie peacock
The problem there is breaking through carbides not always the happiest. when you break out the bottom of a pot.
00:12:47
Curt
ah Yeah, okay, fair.
00:12:48
jamie peacock
So it's like, do I want to switch over to all carbide drills? Yeah, sure, i can drill a little bit faster, but am I going to run into issues when I'm doing the odds and ends?
00:12:59
Curt
Sure, sure.
00:12:59
jamie peacock
Not the production stuff, so I don't know. Still trying to be.
00:13:03
Curt
And that's all like 304 306 or something or 316 or stainless the material.
00:13:03
jamie peacock
Being indecisive, it's fun.
00:13:07
jamie peacock
ah What's that? Oh, no, drilling. No, that's ah all aluminium.
00:13:13
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:13:13
jamie peacock
Like I've got them for drilling.
00:13:14
Curt
Well, then that's almost a non-issue.
00:13:15
jamie peacock
The thing is, every now and again, I throw a tool steel in my machine and then I don't want to be blowing up a carbide drill when I break through the bottom on visit tool steel because I know was drilling round things and I put it in a carbide drill and the first hole when it broke out the bottom of the round, because now you're drilling cross hole, when it breaks out the bottom, just exploded at the tip.
00:13:23
Curt
Fair.
00:13:34
Curt
Yeah.
00:13:35
jamie peacock
I exploded three in a row before i figured out what was going on, put a high speed steel in and drilled a thousand parts.
00:13:36
Curt
Yeah, totally.
00:13:41
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:13:41
jamie peacock
So yeah. tools for their specific jobs like yeah so how's your sublimation spray going
00:13:43
Curt
Yeah, no doubt.
00:13:46
Curt
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:13:51
Curt
Okay, that's cool stuff. um So it's just basically spray to put on a part for laser scanning that mats it out, and then it sublimates. So after X amount of time, it just goes into a gas state, so you don't have to clean the part.
00:14:03
Curt
So i have a I'm trying to scan a dime just for part of the video that I'm shooting here, just to see what kind of resolution I can pull off. And a dime here has, like, we have a little ship on it, and it's very small details.
00:14:14
Curt
Like, ah I don't know, maybe 0.1 millimeter relief, probably less, maybe even 0.1.
00:14:19
jamie peacock
wow. Okay.
00:14:20
Curt
So it's ah it's a very, very, very tiny.
00:14:22
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:22
Curt
So I'm seeing if I could pull the resolution off that. So I i just wanted to mat it out because that gives ah the best results. And yeah, I don't know.
00:14:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:28
Curt
And I have a few shiny things here that would be beneficial for the sublimation spray, but it is pretty freaking cool. Like I didn't know why it was so expensive until i was like, oh, I don't have to clean this.
00:14:35
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's literally, yeah.
00:14:37
Curt
I just have to let it. Yeah, just it's magic.
00:14:38
jamie peacock
It's magic in a can.
00:14:40
Curt
and it It smells like death in a can. Like when I sprayed it, I'm like, oh, okay, I'm spraying this with like good ventilation because I feel like this will kill me quickly.
00:14:43
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah.
00:14:48
Curt
Yeah. Actually, my favorite thing.
00:14:50
jamie peacock
although All the best things are like that.
00:14:52
Curt
Well, my favorite thing is it's it's made in Germany and ah you can tell they put an English label around the can. um But it's like it's so German, this little can. Like I can't quite reach it from here. But like the cap, when you pull it off, it has another little like cap on the side with like an extension nozzle and a little. And it's just like it's so purpose built. And like the instructions are like, use this.
00:15:14
Curt
And if you need it more precise, use it. Sorry, my accent. I don't want to root offend people. if you want it more precise, use the next one. And if you want it more precise, use the next one and like, and do this. And, and that's what you will do.
00:15:25
Curt
And it'll work well. And it's just like, it's everything thats so pop, pop, pop, pop. pop pop up And it's like, I don't know
00:15:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:29
Curt
I just enjoy that like brutal simplification of like, follow the instructions or we will kill you.
00:15:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:35
Curt
And this is how you will get good results.
00:15:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, pretty much.
00:15:37
Curt
Like, I like that.
00:15:38
jamie peacock
I, I'm trying to remember who i was was listening to something and they're like, no, the Germans, like, of what happens if you speed?
00:15:38
Curt
I like that.
00:15:46
jamie peacock
No, no, you don't speed. It's against the rules. You can't speed.
00:15:50
Curt
Right.
00:15:50
jamie peacock
You can't park there.
00:15:51
Curt
Right.
00:15:51
jamie peacock
It's not a parking spot. You cannot park there. Yes, I can't just drive my truck there, but no the rule says you can't park there.
00:15:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:58
jamie peacock
Therefore, it is impossible. ahga It's one of the best things from Germany is, yeah, they follow the rules to the t
00:16:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:05
Curt
i like i I like the black and white nature of that.
00:16:07
jamie peacock
yeah
00:16:08
Curt
I very much like the... the Yeah. So anyway, this is kind of laughing at looking at the instructions. I was like, this was definitely ah almost a direct translation.
00:16:14
jamie peacock
yeah yeah that uh yeah german stuff is quite i was actually i was chatting to commission on uh sunday because uh we recorded over the weekend with uh episode 50's guest and
00:16:16
Curt
It's it's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-mm-mm-mm.
00:16:32
jamie peacock
I took my German ruler with me to go fix Bertha because Khmish broke the freaking sensor. So I made him replace it when I watched. And then we did a bit of roughing and whatnot on the I showed him how to ah use MDR to basically rough things. So you jog to the diameter, you tell it go there to set feed rates and then wrap it out and just line by line just in MDR for like just blanking material, because it does it a lot better than his manual lathe does.
00:16:58
jamie peacock
But anyway, we're looking at my German ruler. i None of this comes from Germany. i got my one colleague to buy me one. I just wanted like a two euro ruler, the foldy-outy ones. And he got me a 20 euro one put it on the company card. So yeah and it says finger back, which is fingers away.
00:17:15
jamie peacock
Like don't touch my shit. And he got that for me and it broke the other day. So I'm a little bit sad about that. I'm on I see my one friend actually flew to Frankfurt today.
00:17:21
Curt
you a
00:17:24
jamie peacock
So might pop him a message say, bro, if you had a hardware store, please pick me up a ruler.
00:17:29
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, two meters because it's a two meter but it folds up like this big. It's great.
00:17:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:34
jamie peacock
ah The wooden ones. They're very German. It's the only place I've ever seen them other than like... Yeah, only seen them in Germany. They're not super common anywhere else.
00:17:41
Curt
I know, that's where I buy the i buy same thing. I buy rules here. We have one store that stocks just a bunch of like Japanese products and German products.
00:17:48
jamie peacock
Ooh, yeah.
00:17:49
Curt
And it's funny how like sometimes you'll buy a ruler here. like It's my pet peeve, like a metal ruler that doesn't start at zero. like The end is radiused or whatever. And you're like,
00:17:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:17:58
Curt
And all the Japanese ones, all the German ones, at least in these stores, they're ground at zero.
00:18:01
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:18:02
Curt
So it's like, you want to measure something at zero?
00:18:03
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:18:04
Curt
and I mean, it's ruler. It's not that precise. But still, it's just like, I appreciate that. Like, I i like that.
00:18:09
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's something I actually ran into with.
00:18:10
Curt
Don't be stupid. Make the edges razor sharp. Like, I want them sharp.
00:18:13
jamie peacock
yeah Well, i don't know if you had to look at the um the units that I sent you. They are engraved as close to zero as I could. I made a fixture that the zero, and I adjusted my laser till the zero line was at freaking zero because it needs to be accurate.
00:18:22
Curt
Right.
00:18:26
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:27
jamie peacock
like It's a two-inch ruler, but it needs to be accurate.
00:18:31
Curt
Oh, P.S.
00:18:31
jamie peacock
Ah,
00:18:32
Curt
We should send out a note to all the Patreons to like email us their addresses, and then I will email them a bunch of...
00:18:36
jamie peacock
yes. Okay, yeah.
00:18:40
Curt
like Because you sent me a bunch of those rulers. I'm sure I can find some things here to throw in.
00:18:42
jamie peacock
yes
00:18:44
Curt
We appreciate you all. You are always know giving us money to go to IMTS or kidnap me or whatever we're doing with it. So yeah, I would... If you can give me all your addresses, I will do my best to get everyone shipped out.
00:18:54
Curt
Now that I have a cheaper option to actually ship things to the U.S., where it's not going to cost me a boatload of cash, I'm...
00:18:57
jamie peacock
yes i'm pretty sure most most of the patreons are there i think some are other side of the world but yeah most of them i know there's one in australia and i think there's one of belgium
00:19:00
Curt
we'll put it we'll book it some We'll put some together.
00:19:07
Curt
Actually, yeah, those are all cheap. Anywhere in the world. Basically anywhere in the world I can ship, it's not going to be a problem. So we'll try to get it together.
00:19:15
jamie peacock
Okay, yeah, because I sent a bunch of them.
00:19:16
Curt
And maybe we'll do like a draw for an imperializer or something like that. We'll i'll solder one up and then we'll send one out to one of the lucky Patreons or something.
00:19:20
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:19:23
jamie peacock
I like that. Cool, I like that plan.
00:19:25
Curt
Something like that. i don't know. Yeah.
00:19:27
jamie peacock
Sounds like a good plan.
00:19:27
Curt
So tell your friends.
00:19:28
jamie peacock
Yes, tell your friends, join the Patreon, then you can get a ah ruler. Aha!
00:19:32
Curt
yeah Exactly.
00:19:34
jamie peacock
That's one of the reasons I joined the Taps and Patients Patreon, was to get a coin.
00:19:35
Curt
Oh
00:19:39
Curt
ah yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fair.
00:19:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:40
Curt
yeah
00:19:42
jamie peacock
Oh, gee, speaking of taps and patience, the song at the end of this last week's episode about them the shop mouse.
00:19:43
Curt
Cool.
00:19:48
Curt
Oh, I don't. I did. i i did hear that.
00:19:52
jamie peacock
Dude, I was watching one enough Yeah.
00:19:53
Curt
I was like, what? It's like the jazzy one. was like, what is this heinous music?
00:19:57
jamie peacock
I was watching one of EJ's stories, and he's got that playing in the background as music, like in his shop.
00:20:04
Curt
Nice.
00:20:04
jamie peacock
was like, it's brilliant. Tell the story of EJ's shop mouse. flip on I know, it was funny.
00:20:11
Curt
Oh, boy.
00:20:12
jamie peacock
But yeah, I'm busy with, I'm busy making Dutchman squeeze box parts.
00:20:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:16
jamie peacock
I made a thousand the whole glass plates.
00:20:16
Curt
Yeah, looks like...
00:20:19
jamie peacock
I'm busy with a thousand buttons. And then I've got 500 M2.5 by 35 screws to do this week.
00:20:26
Curt
That's so many parts. That's so many parts.
00:20:30
jamie peacock
The thousand plates are easy.
00:20:30
Curt
yeah
00:20:32
jamie peacock
The screws I'm busy running, then I've got a very stupid plan for an anchor point pallet.
00:20:37
jamie peacock
So I'm going to take the pull studs, put the pull stud in my custom pull stud collet, machine it shorter, the threads, because I'm going to go pull stud to pull stud and have a pallet that can go both ways.
00:20:37
Curt
Ooh, do tell.
00:20:48
Curt
Right.
00:20:51
Curt
I do like that idea.
00:20:51
jamie peacock
Because I, yeah, I need to drill from both sides on these parts.
00:20:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:54
jamie peacock
I'm not going be able to get away with it with the ball mill. I need to sensor drill, drill, and then sensor drill from the other side.
00:20:57
Curt
like that.
00:21:00
jamie peacock
So it should be over pallet.
00:21:02
jamie peacock
doing like 20 parts at a time or something i'll see how the how the mats all shakes out on it and then make that palette and then yeah finished up the square plates busy with the buttons and then yeah the screws i made some samples the threads look good but when i put the dialets on the diner takes it down to 2.35 nominal or major sorry major diamonds on the thread So I'm like, hmm, I don't like this die nut.
00:21:03
Curt
like that
00:21:30
Curt
OK.
00:21:32
jamie peacock
So I said to the guy, listen, we want to try to keep these as big as possible because it's a freaking tiny thread. So he bought me some of the plates I made them like a year ago to use as a gauge because that's where the screws are threading into.
00:21:43
jamie peacock
So as long as they fit there, he doesn't really care.
00:21:43
Curt
Sure, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:21:45
jamie peacock
So and he wants me to tweak a few little dimensions. So those are going into production this week. But yeah, they're quite fun because I rough down the 15 mils that's sticking way out, do the threading and then turn the rest of the screw.
00:21:58
jamie peacock
but I have to go, I can't, it the the head diameter was four. I had some six and I had some five mil material to make samples. I can't face the end of the ball for the five mil material because it deflects.
00:22:10
jamie peacock
The six mil it lets me face off because it's sticking out, I think close on 45 millimeters.
00:22:11
Curt
ah
00:22:16
Curt
Sure, sure, sure.
00:22:17
jamie peacock
So it's sticking out a hell of a long way. And the six is just a little bit more rigid that I can actually face the end of.
00:22:24
Curt
ah Cool.
00:22:25
jamie peacock
But yeah, I've got i've actually got to order tools for that tomorrow. i've got to order some... I'm thinking of going to a VC GT insert. So it's a bit of a steeper, I'll i'll just use a um so it's a DCGT.
00:22:33
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:22:39
jamie peacock
Either I'm going to buy DCGTs or Barhole New Holder. But I need a 0.4 corner radius for aluminium. Well, for running brass, going use an AliInsert. Because i need the head needs to have a tighter radius where it gets bigger.
00:22:51
jamie peacock
I can't use a 0.8 radius.
00:22:52
Curt
Gotcha.
00:22:53
jamie peacock
So I need to order that.
00:22:54
Curt
Gotcha, gotcha.
00:22:54
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, that's from Midway Tools. I went there and that got expensive.
00:22:59
Curt
Oh no.
00:22:59
jamie peacock
that shop is a problem.
00:23:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:01
jamie peacock
So I bought the toolpost for my um machine and for Carl's machine.
00:23:01
Curt
love
00:23:04
jamie peacock
So i like not the cheapest of things. um We bought the Italian style quick change tool posts. So on the list of things to do is make the adapter for my machine. actually had a customer phone today. Hey, is your machine up and running? I'm like, sorry, Chuck's not on yet.
00:23:17
jamie peacock
Can't assist you till next week. I don't have capacity to make the adapter finished until then. He's like, I need to get your machine running. I keep having send work elsewhere. I'm like, yeah, that's on purpose. don't really want your stupid work.
00:23:28
Curt
Okay.
00:23:29
jamie peacock
No, he sends me the most retarded stuff.
00:23:30
Curt
Okay.
00:23:31
jamie peacock
Like, I just, i'm not interested in doing his stupid work. So, and he also wants it for free. So, um but yeah, those, the Chuck adapters are now in, anyway, into Midway Tools and they had the discount table and there was a vernier there for like $15. Normally it's like a $45 vernier. It's a decent vernier. They last about six months and then the thing starts moving.
00:23:53
jamie peacock
And it was $15. I'm like, why is it? He's like, no. Customer bought it, said it was faulty, brought it back. He's like, cool, just swap it, put a new battery in and it was fine. But now it's open box.
00:24:04
jamie peacock
So it's on the discount table.
00:24:05
Curt
Mm.
00:24:05
jamie peacock
So I'm like, I'll take that. Thank you very much. And this dine-nuts holder and this and that. Yeah, i ended up just piling a bunch of shit onto the table, buying a bunch of random crap. But yeah, it was interesting meeting the guy. Like I walked in.
00:24:19
jamie peacock
I'm like, no, how's it? I'm like, sure. He's like, yes, how's Jamie, I'm like, how do you know my name? He's like, no, spoke to on WhatsApp because we messaged on WhatsApp. He's like, no, I recognize the the profile picture.
00:24:28
Curt
Mm.
00:24:30
jamie peacock
Recognize your wife as well because she's in my profile picture. I'm like, oh, no, we, I've been wanting to come through, but I mean, it took me an hour and 10 minutes to drive there.
00:24:38
Curt
Ooh, yeah.
00:24:38
jamie peacock
I'm like, yeah. And the amazing thing is I'll place an order, like, if I send an RFQ now, I'll probably get a quote this evening. I can pay for it by 8 in the morning, and I'll have it by 2 in the afternoon with career locally.
00:24:51
jamie peacock
It's insane.
00:24:51
Curt
cool.
00:24:51
Curt
That's cool.
00:24:51
jamie peacock
Like, but yeah, he was saying every time he brings an order in, like, more stock, he brings in a new item.
00:24:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:24:57
jamie peacock
So, like, every time I look, he's got something new on his on a site, and he's just growing it like that. And, yeah, are very interesting to have a chat to him.
00:25:05
Curt
Nice.
00:25:06
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:25:06
Curt
That's smart.
00:25:06
jamie peacock
yeah he was saying it started.
00:25:06
Curt
Yeah, at least you
00:25:08
jamie peacock
I remember when I bought tools from the first time, the tool holder arrived with an insert in it. And I'm like, Oh, I'm buying from a hobby shop. Because that's the first thing goes through mind.
00:25:15
Curt
Oh, right. Yeah.
00:25:17
jamie peacock
He's like, Yeah, no, not only that, but um he makes sure that insert seats properly. So for QC reasons, you know and then also, you'll have the hobby guys will order the thing that will arrive a Friday, they want to work on the weekend and not oh shit, there's no insert.
00:25:30
jamie peacock
They didn't know they had to order an insert. So he just throws the inserts in.
00:25:32
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:25:34
jamie peacock
um But yeah, it's he's now he reckons he's supplying a lot of bigger shops now, because his pricing is on point.
00:25:40
Curt
Hmm.
00:25:42
jamie peacock
It's Chinese inserts. Unless you're running hardcore production, you're not going to notice the difference.
00:25:48
Curt
Yeah. No, fair. Fair, fair. Yeah.
00:25:50
jamie peacock
If you're running onesie twosies, you really not gonna know the difference. So it was interesting to go there and I spent lots of money.
00:25:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:58
jamie peacock
the
00:25:58
Curt
Nice.
Generator Testing & Shop Maintenance
00:25:59
jamie peacock
Take that off.
00:25:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:59
jamie peacock
So what's happening with your fourth axis? I'm kind of curious.
00:26:04
Curt
ah The fourth is lovely. So I did the whole run of like, I so i did all the pens on him now. Like the the little Kurt actually just sits here.
00:26:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:11
Curt
It's a topic later on, but Um, it's, uh, it's, it's so nice to have a machine that just, like I think we've talked about it a million times ad nauseum here, but like something that doesn't move. Like I put a pen body in there.
00:26:23
Curt
I, I put my support, I get it all dialed up. I hit go and I walk away and I come back and it's exactly how I want it. And the finishes are beautiful and there's no comping. I cut the first one at the start of the day. I cut the last one at the end of the day.
00:26:36
Curt
all the same. Like, and I'm in this, if it, move if it drifted, you know, if five tents, it wouldn't, if it drifted a foul, it wouldn't matter. You barely could see it. Um, but it's just so nice. It's so nice to like, just to not worry about it.
00:26:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:48
Curt
Just to put parts in and go and do something else and just not even have to occupy my brain with it. It's just like, I know it works. And like, if I come and look at the part and it's not cut, the tool broke. And that's, that's the biggest thing I have to worry about.
00:27:01
Curt
Like, yeah.
00:27:02
jamie peacock
That was literally my afternoon today. So I assembled tubes in the morning, realized I hadn't machined 50 of them, spun up the LK quickly, threw them on the anchor point, machined them, carried on assembling, because I can't assemble while machines are on because I use too much air to do the crimping, so machines can't run.
00:27:05
Curt
Hmm. Right.
00:27:21
jamie peacock
So machines were off till... 12 o'clock, I went to deliver, got back at 2, and turned the machine on, went to my PC while while it booted, pulled up old programs that I needed to run more parts of, posted them, probed the part, hit go, and done.
00:27:37
jamie peacock
Perfect size.
00:27:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:38
jamie peacock
Had to dial in one feature, dialed that feature and on the first part, the other 8 or the other 11, all perfect.
00:27:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:44
jamie peacock
Like, it just, it does the thing. Like, yeah, I think coming from the slow EO and the curt, like,
00:27:48
Curt
m
00:27:51
jamie peacock
It's nice when it just does the thing.
00:27:52
Curt
Yeah. yeah Well, exactly. we both started off with wet noodle machines in a hobby environment where it's like you start moving to better equipment and yeah you're like, oh, this is how you do production properly where you don't have to stress about it It's just like it works.
00:28:04
jamie peacock
Well, even the anchor point bodies, I dial them in and then it just runs around 12 of them and there is no, like there's, we're talking microns of variation between all the dial holes.
00:28:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:16
jamie peacock
Like that's it, a couple microns that
00:28:16
Curt
Right.
00:28:18
jamie peacock
That is the only variation. Like, it is insane when you've got a good quality machine. Speaking of, it i don't think my machine's level anymore, but I'm too scared to poke it over the stick.
00:28:24
Curt
Yeah. The LK or the...
00:28:30
jamie peacock
The LK.
00:28:32
Curt
What kind of...
00:28:32
jamie peacock
So...
00:28:32
Curt
is it Is it four feet or three feet or...
00:28:32
jamie peacock
4.6.
00:28:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:38
Curt
Oh, okay. So it would kind of matter then. Yeah.
00:28:40
jamie peacock
Yeah. So, I... Kermish had a high precision level, so I'm like, oh, dude, we'll put on the LK. It's the levelest thing I have. Put it on one way, put it on the other way. It looks like it's 20 microns per meter off.
00:28:53
jamie peacock
the The whole reading is skewed, but I can calibrate it so that when you go this way, that way, it reads the same. um but it looks like it's about 20 microns per meter off in y and then x i think is a burr because it was tuning thing was back in like this so i need to mess around with it a little bit but yeah was like don't it's making good parts i don't really want to mess with it
00:29:01
Curt
Right.
00:29:20
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, sure.
00:29:22
jamie peacock
potentially throw everything out if I mess with it.
00:29:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:27
jamie peacock
So yeah, I don't really want to fuck with it if can avoid it.
00:29:32
Curt
Well, it's a big enough machine that like you could potentially see problems with it not being, like if you have any kind of twist.
00:29:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:37
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:29:38
jamie peacock
But yeah, for the kind of tolerances we try to hold, it's a non-issue.
00:29:38
Curt
ah It'd be minor, but still.
00:29:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:44
jamie peacock
Like most like the the most accurate thing we try and do is the thickness of the anchor point and that's 120 square millimeters.
00:29:44
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:51
jamie peacock
I don't think we're going to see an issue on that.
00:29:52
Curt
yeah
00:29:53
jamie peacock
Like it should be fine.
00:29:54
Curt
yeah
00:29:55
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's it was something that I was a little bit concerned with now. But we'll see. I might mess around with it. I wouldn't be surprised if my floor is sagged.
00:30:06
Curt
i'm
00:30:06
jamie peacock
No.
00:30:07
Curt
I'm almost certain here with like the weather change. I'm almost guaranteed. And I put the sile. Actually, both machines are on. like There's no cracks under them. They sit on a solid pad.
00:30:14
jamie peacock
yeah
00:30:15
Curt
But I mean, the pad is only four inches thick, five inches thick. So like I'm sure it deflects even with our frosting heaving.
00:30:19
jamie peacock
yeah but you your your style is three points like it's rigid in itself yeah okay so wow yeah that's not that's not that heavy no let's think like your two machines are gonna be
00:30:25
Curt
Siles? Silas three points in the hard inch is floating mounted. So it's on, it it actually says in the manuals, you can put it on a wooden floor and it's not that heavy. It's 3000 pounds. So it's like, yeah.
00:30:37
Curt
Yeah. So yeah. Yeah.
00:30:42
jamie peacock
They will be angled, they won't be skewed.
00:30:45
Curt
Exactly.
00:30:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:46
Curt
Yeah. if Yeah. Three point feet.
00:30:47
jamie peacock
Whereas mine has got...
00:30:48
Curt
You're never going to really tweak it.
00:30:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, mine's got more feet than that. So, it's... I don't really want to mess with it if I can avoid it.
00:30:55
Curt
Rightfully so. And your bed is like quadruple the size of mine.
00:30:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:58
Curt
Like mine's, it's not going to twist the bed over a foot and a half of granite.
00:31:00
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:31:03
Curt
So
00:31:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, think my travels are, like, volumetrically, like, five times or six times what yours is.
00:31:10
Curt
huge. Exactly.
00:31:10
jamie peacock
it's yeah it's huge but yeah we're not seeing errors so we're not going to go look for errors 100 yep so um carl needs to come and level the uh slowio for me in other words screw the feet till they touch the ground i don't give a shit if it's level or not the frame is not going to twist the machine's frame because the frame on the machine on the stand is like
00:31:11
Curt
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:31:16
Curt
If you don't have a precision level, don't buy one. Cause that's the, that's the fast track to mental insanity. Yeah.
00:31:31
Curt
Right.
00:31:41
jamie peacock
I think one and a half inch square tubing. Like it is going to have zero effects on the four inch by four inch quarter inch wall tubing that the frame is made of.
00:31:52
jamie peacock
um But I need him to come and square up the block of steel for his tool riser, for his tool post riser. So I'm like, guess what, Carl? You get to hold the arrow buttons and so machine the thing square. i'm not going waste my time doing it on the LK.
00:32:04
jamie peacock
Like he can just stand there and do it.
00:32:05
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:06
jamie peacock
It's going to be quicker.
00:32:08
jamie peacock
And then I'm making a 7075 riser for my machine. I'm like, it'll be more than rigid enough.
00:32:08
Curt
Totally, yeah.
00:32:13
Curt
Oh, yeah?
00:32:14
jamie peacock
Like, in all reality, that's not going to be the limiting factor. So I'm going to make mine out of 7075 and anodize it. Probably green to match everything else.
00:32:21
Curt
OK.
00:32:22
jamie peacock
and And here's one we're going to make out of steel because he's planning on doing a lot more steel work than me.
00:32:28
Curt
That's actually what i wanted to ask you. um like
00:32:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:30
Curt
Do you anodize all the risers that you put in your machines?
00:32:34
jamie peacock
No. So the risers...
00:32:36
Curt
Because do you see do you see like any galvanic issues?
00:32:38
jamie peacock
us. When I put them down, I tend to put down um to the can or WD40 or one of those and a little bit of staining but that's it.
00:32:48
Curt
Sure.
00:32:51
Curt
OK. OK.
00:32:51
jamie peacock
so I put a layer down before I placed them and then I haven't seen any major issues. I had the last riser on the LK for a year and a half. And when I took it off, I stoned the surface just to take the staining off.
00:33:01
Curt
Oh, wow. OK.
00:33:05
jamie peacock
Like there's a little bit of staining and a bit of disgusting coolant in the one T slot.
00:33:08
Curt
Sure.
00:33:10
jamie peacock
But like no rust, no real corrosion that I could pick up. stoned the whole table and put my new risers in. um Yeah, the only reason I'm anodizing the ones in the good way is because they look cool.
00:33:22
Curt
Right. Yeah, no, it makes sense.
00:33:23
jamie peacock
And it's easier to see the way from chips hitting it if it's anodized. And obviously, we want to see that because it's cool.
00:33:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:29
jamie peacock
But yeah, have those risers like that.
00:33:30
Curt
yeah
00:33:31
jamie peacock
Speaking of the of Spinderella, Spinderella ran her first production this week. Well, last week.
00:33:38
Curt
Ooh.
00:33:39
jamie peacock
Yes, last week. Yeah, I made 260 odd pieces.
00:33:44
Curt
Nice. And it behaved well.
00:33:45
jamie peacock
i Dude, dude, like, yeah, you know, the thing of nice machine and it's just makes life easy.
00:33:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah. I didn't cut corners when I retrofitted this one. Sorry, Commissioner, I cut corners on your machine. I didn't cut the corners on this one. It homes within $2,000 of where it was, not within $10,000, $20,000.
00:34:04
Curt
Hmm.
00:34:07
jamie peacock
So
00:34:07
Curt
Hmm.
00:34:09
jamie peacock
depending on what I'm doing, like can just home it and go. I still take a skim cut and check my size, but it pretty much on size and then run it the whole day. It's all the same size.
00:34:19
jamie peacock
Had a bit of chip management issues, but that's more to do with the piece of aluminium than anything else. Like I'll literally take a 750mm long bar and it will chip break here and it will not chip break there in the same bar.
00:34:33
jamie peacock
Same code.
00:34:33
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:34:34
jamie peacock
And then you'll load the next bar, and it'll be chip breaking, and then it won't. And then you'll load the next one, and won't chip break, then it will. Just inconsistencies in the material, because it's extruded bar.
00:34:43
Curt
Oh, weird. OK.
00:34:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've run into it before, um but I've got, a basically automated the code.
00:34:44
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:34:49
jamie peacock
I run 15 parts per bar, and it stops when the count gets to 10, just so I can check that the parts catch is clear, because they do get caught in the parts catch every now and again, and remove some shavings, hit go, it runs for another 10 minutes, stops at five left, check everything's clear, hit go again, and it just cranks out parts.
00:34:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:07
jamie peacock
So yeah, no, it works, it works beautifully.
00:35:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:35:10
Curt
Oh, that's good. That's good.
00:35:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:11
Curt
I'm happy. I'm happy.
00:35:12
jamie peacock
And the bar puller works like magic. So i designed that little that little purple bar puller and then I designed inserts that are just made out of mild steel.
00:35:15
Curt
Oh, yeah?
00:35:20
jamie peacock
Machine inserts that you bolt on for different diameter bars. So push it it expands over, grips, and then you pull forward and then you drive it off sideways and the aluminum just flexes and works flawlessly.
00:35:32
Curt
Perfect. That's awesome. That's awesome.
00:35:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, know. It worked really well. And then I've got a... Oh, shit, it's downstairs. I made a design for a parametric spindle liner that's designed to be printed in vase mode. So it the diameter on my model is 31 millimeters because my machine over extrudes.
00:35:44
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:35:51
jamie peacock
So when it's done, it's like 31.7. So it fits down the ball. But I designed it so that you, there's a parameter. There's only one variable that's in there and that's your ID.
00:36:03
jamie peacock
So you set your ID and then it basically does like, it's got 0.15 wide cutouts that go, just the right amount from the center ball so when it prints it can print it in one continuous layer and grow in vase mode so you use as little material as possible it looks kind of cool so i made one for 25 mill bar because i need to run some stuff out of 25 mobile this week so coming to terms with the new machine but yeah it it zooms around as well it is scary fast and i turned the rapids down to 12 meters a minute and it's still scary fast
00:36:19
Curt
Sure, yeah.
00:36:27
Curt
Cool. That's cool. Oh,
00:36:35
Curt
that's good. I mean,
00:36:40
Curt
well, that's probably where you'll see a bigger change is just the the acceleration to your rapids, especially for your work where you're doing short, short, short cycles.
00:36:45
jamie peacock
yes well the whole travel on the machine 200 260 mils in z it's short as ah yeah it's 10 inches in z and 12 inches in x that's it it zooms across there in no time it is truly terrifying like yeah truly truly terrifying but we ran into some issues over the weekend so we had the lovely uh g20 this weekend
00:36:54
Curt
Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.
00:37:02
Curt
Right. ah
00:37:13
jamie peacock
So Danica made me take her go to dog training with her because she missed dog training with the dogs whatever.
00:37:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:18
jamie peacock
So I had to go with her and they were flying Roy Falk around and i had left the machine to run an hour long cycle, told her to power down when it's done. So we ended up going to dog training. We had to go early so the one dog can calm down and all the crap.
00:37:31
jamie peacock
Mother-in-law phones me as we're finishing up. No, the power's just gone off. She's just letting me know. I'm like, okay, no worries. I think my machine turned off. Come home, machine had turned off already. So like, fuck it, go buy diesel. Generator time. Let's go.
00:37:41
jamie peacock
Start the generator, ran the generator for like six or seven hours.
00:37:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:46
jamie peacock
Power came on. I'm like, man, I'm running cycles. It can just carry on running. I burned through 10% of my fuel that I put in. Um... So we went from 29% to 59% with 19 litres and burned through 10% of that.
00:38:04
jamie peacock
So like sevenish ile seven or eight litres for running for like seven or eight hours.
00:38:09
Curt
um yeah
00:38:10
jamie peacock
So really not bad. um
00:38:12
Curt
Yeah, that's not bad at all.
00:38:13
jamie peacock
Also discovered can't run my machines at 100% rapid.
00:38:18
Curt
Oh, no, not enough juice.
00:38:18
jamie peacock
Well, the M car can. Yeah, voltage dips. So the LK freaked out twice us because i was doing tool break detect. So it would drop down far away from the job, wrap it up, change tools, then try to spin up and wrap it to position.
00:38:33
jamie peacock
And it kept throwing an alarm there. And then the good way as well, when tried to wrap it at full speed, it threw an alarm. Obviously, the spindle was spinning up on the LK while it was trying to do it or something. So it faltered the two servo drives.
00:38:46
jamie peacock
So I caught it, luckily, because that still isn't tied into the controller yet.
00:38:46
Curt
Mm.
00:38:50
jamie peacock
um Yeah, um i need to go buy relays. I need to just make a trip to the relay shop and buy relays. um So I heard it sound different.
00:39:01
jamie peacock
And I went there, it stalled the Z when I tried to wrap it out. And then I tried to wrap it over and it stalled the X. And the tool wasn't even touching. It was just spinning in the middle of the part. So it was the last part on the bar. So I just power cycled the drives, pulled out, rehomed and carried on.
00:39:17
jamie peacock
um But now I know 50% rapids if i'm running on generator, which is fine.
00:39:21
Curt
yeah
00:39:22
jamie peacock
That is a compromise I'm happy to to make.
00:39:26
Curt
that's still wild to think about because like our machines aren't large machines like they're small production machines and like to swamp up what is your generator like 20 kva yeah so that's your typical like house supply for most u.s s canadian homes um and to swamp or at least sag the voltage that hard is it's a lot of juice it's like a lot of power yeah
00:39:30
jamie peacock
No. 25 VAR. a Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:44
jamie peacock
So when I was watching the power meter, which I don't think reads fast enough for what we're doing, but I saw a peak at 12 kilowatts. When the good way spun up, the LK was machining, so it wasn't spinning up and the good way spun up, it went from seven and a half to 12 and a half kilowatts.
00:39:54
Curt
Okay.
00:39:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:02
jamie peacock
So if the LK is spinning up as well, that's going to push it another four five kilowatts because they're l k frickin' the LK sucks down more juice when it decelerates and goes up than when it accelerates the spindle.
00:40:03
Curt
That's some juice. Yeah.
00:40:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:14
jamie peacock
because you're obviously lifting the whole spindle assembly.
00:40:14
Curt
Sure.
00:40:14
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:40:17
jamie peacock
Like my lights dim in the house when that thing's doing rapid moves up and down at 100% rapid. Like you can tell when it does a tool break detect because it moves over in rapid, rapids down, touches, and then wrap it up so you can tell by the lights flickering what it's doing.
00:40:22
Curt
ah
00:40:32
Curt
cool.
00:40:32
jamie peacock
Proper nerd things.
00:40:33
Curt
That's cool.
00:40:34
jamie peacock
But yeah, like I was pretty happy with the fact that the Jenny can run all the machines with the caveat of not running at 100% rapid.
00:40:35
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:43
Curt
Well, it's a nice, yeah.
00:40:43
jamie peacock
but it's fine most days i don't run at 100 rapids anyway today i was but most days i don't
00:40:47
Curt
Yeah. Well, and in your environment, it's nice to have that, that backup. Cause that's a, that's a big deal for your world.
00:40:52
jamie peacock
dude like no reason why the power was off like so yeah they put the power back on and now my street lights work so yay they've been off for the last like two weeks yeah like my mother-in-law doesn't mind i'm pretty sure she's the one breaking them it's a chance straight into bedroom
00:40:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:57
Curt
Sure.
00:41:03
Curt
Oh, no. Oh, no.
00:41:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:10
jamie peacock
um but yeah yeah but this this weekend was interesting with the g20 going on they had rolling uh road closures and the police were the last week or so the police have been out in force at like every off ramp on the freeway just showing their presence to try and deter stupidness and yeah then there wass a bunch of protest stuff yeah it was great fun this weekend with all the dumb fuckery but yeah
00:41:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:33
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Those summits usually bring out the best. Yeah.
00:41:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, like the lots of stupidness.
00:41:38
Curt
Yeah,
00:41:40
jamie peacock
So clean shop, clean brain, Kurt.
00:41:41
Curt
man. Oh, dude, for me, like, so like this last week, I had production running. i had kind of a bunch, I delayed the running, had the mill running. was kind of at a point where I was like, okay well, everything's running so well. I've offloaded enough of my stuff that I just twiddling my thumbs. I'm like, you know what I've been postponing for like months is just cleaning up my world, like cleaning up. I like to have empty benches. I like that because for me, an empty bench, I can think if my bench is full of shit, my brain is full of shit. i can't think.
00:42:08
Curt
Um, and just like, Such a big, and like my Kurt, I haven't ran the Kurt forever. It was still full of chips. So I was like, I'm just going to clean you out.
00:42:13
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah.
00:42:15
Curt
Cause I don't, I don't use you now for like day-to-day production. I use you for just like, if I need to, if I need to do something while the other machines are running, that's why it's here. So like I cleaned that out and just like everything. It's just like, I, the worst job is like cleaned out the hard-inch oil sump.
00:42:30
Curt
which desperately makes me want to get like a Freddy or a, some sort of like filtering something or other. So I can pump the oil out, filter it and then pump it. Cause it is such a shitty job.
00:42:41
jamie peacock
How many liters of oil in there?
00:42:41
Curt
o
00:42:45
Curt
ah Not a ton. It's a, what is it? sir Like maybe, give me a second. I got to go gallons to liters.
00:42:54
jamie peacock
Well, just got gallons, it's fine.
00:42:54
Curt
think it's like 30, 30, 30 liters ish. It's not, a it's not ton.
00:42:58
jamie peacock
It's not a shitload, okay. No, because was going to you can get a ash vacuum from like, oh no, found it.
00:43:00
Curt
No, it's pretty... Yeah.
00:43:04
Curt
Yeah,
00:43:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, and then that is a dedicated tank that you can use your vacuum cleaner to pump into.
00:43:10
jamie peacock
I've done that past.
00:43:10
Curt
yeah I just...
00:43:13
Curt
Yeah, I don't know if I want to build something. I just rather. But the same thing. Friday's very expensive for my one time a year.
00:43:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:43:17
Curt
But the one time a year I'm doing it, I'm like, God, I hate this.
00:43:19
jamie peacock
You want
00:43:20
Curt
I would pay a lot of money to not have to do this.
00:43:20
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:43:22
Curt
because It's all sludgy and gross. And like all the titanium fines make it through my my cloth. So it's in the bottom and it's just fine mud. And like you got to clean it up with a cloth. o this I hate that job.
00:43:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's actually on my thing to do is order filters for Monica because while I'm still trying to clean Monica after the good way um because I need to pump out the LK before i start the Tufnel because I need as much cooling capacity as I can have for when it fills up with fucking Tufnel shavings.
00:43:32
Curt
I hate it.
00:43:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:49
jamie peacock
um
00:43:49
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:50
jamie peacock
So I need to add that dude. There's that much cool not much shavings in the back.
00:43:53
Curt
Ugh.
00:43:55
jamie peacock
I know it's going to be bad. So yeah, fun times.
00:43:58
Curt
i will say, though, the nice thing of going from oil, like starting my world in oil and then going to coolant is like coolant. It's like ah it's a breeze. You get coolant somewhere, you wipe it up with a cloth, you're done. You get oil somewhere, you're, oh, it's greasy. It's like 19,000 paper towels and like Yeah, but I love it.
00:44:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I'm thinking of...
00:44:14
Curt
I still love it.
00:44:14
jamie peacock
I'm thinking of actually turfing my coolant after this Tufnel run.
00:44:19
Curt
Oh, yeah, and just starting fresh.
00:44:19
jamie peacock
Because the coolant in...
00:44:21
Curt
Ooh,
00:44:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, the coolant in the LK is eating my hands. Like, between the LK and...
00:44:26
Curt
gross.
00:44:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no, my fingers... Like, between my fingers, yeah, I've been wearing bitch mittens. um And Danica made me some magical healing cream, like...
00:44:31
Curt
Ugh.
00:44:35
jamie peacock
Amphazan, don't know, some antihistamine cream just to try and get that um under control. Like my whole hand, the top here was red. It's now kind of under control again.
00:44:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:43
jamie peacock
And then my arm here touched in the good way yesterday and this morning it's all like rashy. So I'm having an ah allergic reaction to something in the coolants. um But I think also the good way old ass coolant is not helping the situation.
00:44:58
jamie peacock
because i couldn't get everything out so my new coolant in there has been contaminated so i'm gonna probably have to suck that out and turf it as well so to the clip river where we poured in there it can only make the river cleaner no dude that river you can literally see the mince toilet paper in it it's great yeah no no like in the sun you look into the water and you can just see all the pieces of mince paper it's amazing
00:44:59
Curt
Yeah,
00:45:07
Curt
yeah. yeah
00:45:11
Curt
go So gross.
00:45:16
Curt
oh
00:45:23
jamie peacock
yeah um yeah i'm gonna probably have to get rid of a bunch of coolants again yay they just took away like 300 liters of coolant and left their drum here and haven't fetched it i don't think they want it back so i'm gonna have to deal with that now as well but yeah today i was running things and cycle 832 is amazing i was just watching was just watching the machine run and it's just super smooth it's like
00:45:24
Curt
Yeah, nope. Hard pass.
00:45:39
Curt
Yeah, I mean.
00:45:42
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:45:45
Curt
Okay. Why is it amazing? Or why is it amazing still? Oh, yeah.
00:45:50
jamie peacock
Because I know when I ran them last time, it was not super smooth. And now it's like quietly zooming around the part at like 4.2 meters a minute, just like evaporating the aluminum. Like, yeah, making folding mechanisms for a drone.
00:46:01
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:46:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:06
jamie peacock
Apparently, I do a lot of drone work.
00:46:08
Curt
Yeah, it sounds a part anyways. Yeah, for sure.
00:46:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, um but I've literally got three different companies that I do drone work for. So all the molds I did are for, oh geez, lightning. All the molds I did earlier in the year were for ah for a VTOL.
00:46:23
jamie peacock
I make the tilt mechanism as well out of aluminum. And then I do the landing gear for another company who buy a craft from somewhere and the landing gear's just shit. And then I do all the parts for my mate Dave who's building a craft now.
00:46:36
jamie peacock
So we're making two crafts with the parts like over center latching mechanisms, giant stupid heat sinks, the motor mounts, yeah. uh a whole bunch of interesting stuff but that's like yeah was saying who's i saying to i'm looking to niche down like heavily now we're small aluminum pots that's what we do it's what we do well that's what we want to do everything else can just go away take your tool steel and fuck off i will do my tool steel for my stuff and my steel parts for my products but otherwise i'm not interested no yeah because yeah i like doing what i like doing i don't want to drive the struggle bus on every part
00:46:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:08
Curt
Yeah. Not fair.
00:47:15
Curt
No, that makes sense. And yeah, if you have the volume for that kind of work, then yeah, definitely, that's a good idea.
00:47:20
jamie peacock
yeah, then, yeah, niche into what you're good at. But, yeah, the anchor point I'm good at making.
00:47:24
Curt
Totally.
00:47:26
jamie peacock
So, hopefully we will have a bunch of those leaving soon.
00:47:31
Curt
Yeah, I am.
00:47:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, actually need a follow up with with someone on that. I'll follow up with them after the of the podcast.
00:47:38
Curt
Yeah, i need to I need to follow up with myself to get that set over. The new year. Like when I when i bring this new pen out, i think that's when going to make the switch because I just, every day I look.
00:47:44
jamie peacock
and
00:47:48
Curt
I have it in one of my bins right now where it's sitting in the bin for the sile and I look it I'm like, oh, you would be so nice right now.
00:47:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:55
Curt
Like I will. You will. You will be in my machine. Yeah.
00:47:57
jamie peacock
it It is a huge mental inertia thing to actually just commit and change over.
00:48:02
Curt
yeah well i'm trying to and the problem is like i kind of anyways we won't talk about it but there's i'm trying to i'm trying to design for everything that i can foresee in the future and that just makes it more of a like insurmountable task where i'm like i don't want to do this and if i sat down and just drew like just sat in cad for a couple hours i guarantee i would have the whole plate built how i want it and i would have everything made it's just like it's just that mental hump like you said it's just do it sit down and do it and
00:48:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:25
jamie peacock
Yeah. Getting over that hump is the, is the biggest thing. I, even for me to get them into my machine took me, took me a good couple months to like fully commit to, okay, cool. Riser leaves now.
00:48:36
jamie peacock
And this is the final solution.
00:48:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:38
jamie peacock
Like we can't, there's, well, there's going back.
00:48:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:41
jamie peacock
I still have the riser, but there's no going back. Like even now I've got to convert the tuftal fixtures to run on the anchor points.
00:48:44
Curt
Yeah, no.
00:48:49
Curt
Right, right, right, yeah.
00:48:49
jamie peacock
Yeah. I actually need to order gasket from the place in Cape Town.
00:48:51
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:55
jamie peacock
The gasket is the mighty about gasket that it is brutally expensive. But I need more gaskets.
00:49:00
Curt
Yeah, that makes sense, yeah.
00:49:01
jamie peacock
I'm idiot machined his gasket. It doesn't like it when you machines at all. So I need to order just like another probably 20 feet and just suck it the fuck up.
00:49:07
Curt
Weird.
00:49:12
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, so what have you been doing a blender good?
00:49:14
Curt
Cool, man. ah So if you don't know, like Blender 3D, amazing software. I've messed around with it probably for the last, ah I don't know,
00:49:21
jamie peacock
Yeah,
00:49:25
Curt
15 years off and on um it's like the best the best mesh modeling animation game open source software that yeah the community is great tutorials fantastic there's so much information out there it is advanced so much in the last little bit um so i had some time where i was basically just sitting at the computer messing around with same thing i'm doing a lot of work with like meshes from laser scanning right now and bringing them into CAD. So you're dealing with meshes and fusions mesh workflows.
00:49:51
Curt
yeah It's okay, but it's, it's, it's good for bringing a mesh.
00:49:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, the ant is pretty accurate. Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:59
Curt
Like if you want to bring a mesh into fusion and then just like put solid models onto it, it's okay for that. There's still other better solutions. Um, anyways, and for some of this, I have some products in the future where I'm going to need to do a little bit more, ah how can we say like more artworky stuff for them?
00:50:14
Curt
Um, and I would like to do like it in, like i could ai can help a little bit but there's still limits to that um so just being proficient in blender i was used used to be quite good at it um so anyways pulled up the software been messing with it so much fun it is advanced so much since i last played with it um just doing like even sculpting like if you want to do sculpt like it's a it's crazy how much better it is and especially with like a pc that has you know much
00:50:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Tech Insights & Critiques
00:50:38
Curt
better performance specs when it comes to that kind of stuff where it's
00:50:39
jamie peacock
Infinite horsepower, yeah.
00:50:41
Curt
yeah you can get away with so many more cool and like rendering is so much faster and everything's a snappier and it just you can you can do things quicker and it's just i really enjoy that that's kind of like it's kind of like video like i love shooting video for youtube that's just kind of a hobby of mine that i enjoy doing and 3d modeling is kind of one of them too i just i don't do a ton of it because it doesn't pay the bills um but i've been really enjoying kind of geeking out on that for the last week or so here so but yeah you have if you have messed with it check it out it's a really really cool free open source alternative
00:50:41
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
00:51:09
jamie peacock
think I think messed around with it back in the day try and make an intro for my FPV videos back in the day. I'm pretty sure messed around with it a little bit for that, then I got one of my friends to do an intro for me.
00:51:18
Curt
Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:51:22
jamie peacock
I can't. Oh, Mark. Well, actually, Danica were discussing that. um There used to be the National Aerospace and Defense Show, and you could climb into all the military vehicles and whatnot.
00:51:36
jamie peacock
My uncle was in the mouth in the um convoy the year that they stopped doing that, or the year that caused them to stop letting people into the vehicles. Someone knocked the diff lock in in one of our rattles.
00:51:48
jamie peacock
And they were going down the street, driving back to the base, and they turned, and it went straight over three vehicles.
00:51:56
jamie peacock
So then from that, human yeah, you weren't allowed into the the vehicles anymore after that because someone had knocked the switch and it wasn't part of the s SOP to check that you weren't in DIFF lock.
00:51:56
Curt
Oh
00:52:02
Curt
Oh no.
00:52:07
jamie peacock
And yeah, like cruising along and just turned and it just went straight over three vehicles.
00:52:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:12
jamie peacock
ah
00:52:12
Curt
oh
00:52:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, we're discussing that. Danica Sagnano, a local company, Paramount, did I think it was called the Rhino. It was like the next gen on these vehicles. and I'm like, no, no, I know all about that.
00:52:25
jamie peacock
I built the camera rig that my mate used to get the light information for the 3D rendering and animations for the promo video. He did all the all the animation and stuff like the guy used to fly with.
00:52:34
Curt
Oh cool.
00:52:37
jamie peacock
I was like, yeah, it's freaking cool.
00:52:38
Curt
Mm.
00:52:38
jamie peacock
It was... he it was I think it was 20, I was 2014 that I made that rig for him. um
00:52:45
Curt
Mm.
00:52:45
jamie peacock
He basically went with this DSLR indexed in 12 degree increments and creates two pictures in full three, like all angles, pulled it in through some magical software, generated a light map.
00:52:54
Curt
Mm.
00:52:58
jamie peacock
So when he pulled the model of the vehicle, it was accurately lit for the environment was being rendered in.
00:53:05
jamie peacock
It's like that. Yeah. Unfortunately, he decided to go and die, which was a bit inconvenient. But ah yeah, no, dude, not really surprised.
00:53:05
Curt
Sick.
00:53:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:12
jamie peacock
He had cystic fibrosis. So we used to go flying.
00:53:16
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:16
jamie peacock
We're... Dude, that Oak would drive half an hour to house, pick me up, drive back to where he lives so we could fly. He's like, no you're not riding your motorbike my house. I'll come fetch you. It's not safe on your motorbike.
00:53:25
Curt
Oh.
00:53:26
jamie peacock
Dude, that Oak was a legend. But we used to get somewhere and then we'd walk for like 50 meters and we would stop for like five minutes so he could catch his breath. And then walk another 50 meters and five minutes so he could catch his breath again.
00:53:38
jamie peacock
And then, you know, moved to Cape Town, ended up having his one lung collapse and went in for lung surgery and died due to complications. Fuck. Yeah, bit of a rough one, but also put me in contact with some friends that I met through and that i lost contact with. And they that, he has resulted in a lot of the work I have these days.
00:53:59
jamie peacock
Is from him, like the diesel guys, I can trace back to him.
00:53:59
Curt
cool.
00:54:03
jamie peacock
the One of the drone customers, I can trace back to him. Like a lot of the stuff I can trace back to meeting James and flying drones with him back in 2012.
00:54:13
jamie peacock
like through 2015.
00:54:14
Curt
That's cool.
00:54:15
jamie peacock
yeah, kind of cool.
00:54:16
Curt
That's cool.
00:54:16
jamie peacock
But yeah, no, it was, a yeah, he had rather large influence on like, we went to his funeral Danica's like, there's nobody that just knew him. He touched everybody he knew, he touched them, their lives in some like major way.
00:54:26
Curt
Mm.
00:54:29
jamie peacock
He was just one ya one of those people. know On a positive note, um let's go through your last one, Gemini for email.
00:54:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:38
jamie peacock
You're trusting Google's AR.
00:54:39
Curt
ah Dude, like, yeah, like I was using my local AI and it was just kind of I was like, you know what? um with Like if you have G Suite, you automatically will get ah Gemini and in Gmail anyways. You don't get it in all of your other documents unless you have bigger packages, but...
00:54:53
Curt
I was like, I'm going to try this because sometimes I get a slew of emails. So I basically said, summarize all my unread messages in you know this folder. Oh, I saw that lightning flash. um
00:55:02
jamie peacock
yeah that's one my cameras that's all i'm fucking out
00:55:04
Curt
ah I basically said, summarize all my unread messages. And so it just gave me a brief summary of all of Okay. I'm like, reply. And they were all basic. I'm like, reply to all of them with blah, blah, blah, blah. blah Um, and it, it's like, I can't do it directly.
00:55:19
Curt
Um, was like, damn it. That's what I wanted you to do. But it's like, here, I can paste you a bunch of like replies. i'm like, well, that helps a little bit. Um, it was actually pretty good. Like it understood the, in like the way I talk, like the inflections in my sent emails.
00:55:32
jamie peacock
Okay, yeah. So...
00:55:33
Curt
So it didn't make it sound like a robot. It's, it did make it sound like me. And I was like, Ooh, that's actually pretty good. So I copy and pasted some of them. And then I altered a couple words here and there, but I was like, okay, it's, it's pretty decent at what it does.
00:55:44
Curt
I wish there was more integration. Um, but it's good enough that it can, it can read and reply and whatnot. just sometimes I just get the same message over and over and over and over and over. So yeah I was, I was pretty impressed by it.
00:55:55
jamie peacock
um' just i've just scrolld I've just gone to my Gmail now, i' my work Gmail, and I've scrolled to the bottom it's got suggested responses to to a quote that I got today for material.
00:55:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:06
jamie peacock
And it through the context of previous emails, it's one of the suggestions is, can you please ah add stuff to that quote that I'd added to it previously?
00:56:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:16
jamie peacock
Like, that's just the suggested responses. And I've actually used them in a limited capacity just to like get the bulk of the email done and then just add the shit I want like which career we using and shit like that.
00:56:25
Curt
Yep.
00:56:29
jamie peacock
So yeah, and our overlords.
00:56:30
Curt
Yep. Yeah. I use those. I use those pretty frequently actually. Yeah. I totally.
00:56:33
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:56:33
Curt
Yeah. Overlords. Yeah, exactly.
00:56:35
jamie peacock
They've become less shit.
00:56:37
Curt
Yeah. ah They're getting better. and that's the thing is like in five years time, it's going to be a, like you're, it's going to be an, of like, and of course you use this.
00:56:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:56:45
Curt
It's not going to be like, I sometimes dabble with it.
00:56:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:56:47
Curt
because it's like, so yeah.
00:56:48
jamie peacock
Well, Danica was ah swearing at our downstairs computer. She's like, why is it still got Windows, Jamie?
00:56:54
Curt
Okay.
00:56:55
jamie peacock
I'm like, because I don't want to log back into Amazon Prime. It's pretty much only reason still has Windows on it. It's a media PC. It does not need Microsoft on it. I don't need pop-ups about OneDrive and whatever the fuck else they're trying to sell me.
00:57:06
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:07
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, they snuck a whole bunch of stuff in this week into the new update.
00:57:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:12
jamie peacock
like a whole bunch of things that it's like, guys, are you on drugs?
00:57:12
Curt
m
00:57:17
jamie peacock
Are you trying to lose your user base? But the problem is they've got such a monopoly that they can do dumb shit and most people won't won't change from them.
00:57:21
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:29
jamie peacock
It's, yeah.
00:57:29
Curt
Oh. i mean that's true until like i mean look at what steam is doing right now right with their with their new console like they're kind of taking everybody they're going take everyone's lunches like real quick they're building a a device that's modestly priced very capable and can play every game like they're and ah yeah it's like oh so i mean the same same thing can happen with everybody it's like enough people get frustrated and if you're
00:57:37
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah, the Steam machine. 100%. Yeah.
00:57:47
jamie peacock
That's it. Yeah.
00:57:53
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, they... Yeah, I think Microsoft has gotten complacent and now they're just doing dumb shit like... yeah, forcing the my mother in law. Oh, no, this thing says I'm out of space. It's like, No, that's one drive trying to get you to do things. You've got to two terabytes on Google, we pay for Google storage, you have two terabytes available, you are not out of space.
00:58:16
jamie peacock
But Microsoft are trying to sell you their service.
00:58:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:18
jamie peacock
And yeah, their marketing and the way they do it's a bit scummy these days. Yes.
00:58:24
Curt
Yeah.
Machine Enhancements & Community Shoutouts
00:58:25
jamie peacock
um
00:58:26
Curt
Anyway, you're ah you're dead tree fondling.
00:58:27
jamie peacock
ah yes
00:58:28
Curt
but What's going on there?
00:58:30
jamie peacock
Uh, yeah, so I put the oilers on the dead tree fondler, uh, that router I was working on a few weeks ago, the oiler blocks came in, so I took coal there and went and installed them quickly. Um, yeah, they're like 10, 10 oil manifolds. They were like, they're freaking cheap. So just ordered a set from China when they arrived, went and installed them there. And now they, they, I will hopefully, said to them, hopefully you never phone me again.
00:58:51
jamie peacock
He looks like for your machine.
00:58:51
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:53
jamie peacock
Other projects, no problem.
00:58:54
Curt
Right.
00:58:54
jamie peacock
But let's hope that you don't have to replace linear guides now. Let's hope we've not sorted this issue out.
00:58:58
Curt
Totally.
00:59:00
jamie peacock
um And then yeah it turns out that I'm pretty much a retrofitting God. I work on a retrofit for six days and I rest on the seventh.
00:59:09
jamie peacock
Cole's machine is done. Took me six days and it is done. yeah like It's now the RASR and the chuck adapter. And those are kind of out of my hands.
00:59:09
Curt
nice
00:59:18
Curt
have
00:59:19
jamie peacock
Like electrically, it is finished. In six days.
00:59:23
Curt
it's awesome on the first day Jamie created life that's awesome that's awesome
00:59:24
jamie peacock
Like insulted.
00:59:28
jamie peacock
On the first day, Jamie yeeted all the shit out. Like, yeah. No, we checked it. We've only actually worked on his machine for six days. No, it went together really quickly. actually got a thing today.
00:59:42
jamie peacock
ah One of my old other dead tree fondling customers, he ended up selling his shares in that company and doing his other shit. And he's busy helping someone who's got a...
00:59:52
jamie peacock
CNC controller that is not a CNC controller. It's a pile of e-waste. And he wants to know if I can swap the controller out for Linux CNC. I'm like yeah, dude, no problem. Gave him a rough quote. I'm like, it's a controller, a keyboard, and a screen.
01:00:06
jamie peacock
The wiring's all there. All I've got to do is drop the pie and drop the breakout boards and be ready to go. Like, it's a already wired. So, yeah, it's a little router running stepper drivers. you um But if it works for them, who am to judge?
01:00:20
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
01:00:21
jamie peacock
well
01:00:22
Curt
yeah Yeah, no, exactly. Exactly.
01:00:25
jamie peacock
And steppers are surprisingly accurate for being open.
01:00:26
Curt
Cool, man. Oh, 100%. Yeah.
01:00:29
jamie peacock
Like, it's insane how accurate they actually are.
01:00:33
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, know it's...
01:00:34
jamie peacock
Oh, you know what I've just realized, Kurt.
01:00:37
Curt
What's that?
01:00:38
jamie peacock
We're an hour in and i forgot to shout out the Patreons.
01:00:41
Curt
Oh, well, we best do that.
01:00:42
jamie peacock
Yes, ah before we do, one moment. Oh, wait, hang on. Where's the button?
01:00:55
jamie peacock
I need to quickly look something up.
01:00:59
Curt
like it.
01:01:00
jamie peacock
Sorry.
01:01:00
Curt
I like that you play that
01:01:00
jamie peacock
We got a new Patreon.
01:01:04
Curt
Jamie plays this so I can't talk. this is way This is the way he maintains his strong control in the podcast.
01:01:09
jamie peacock
Go for it, sing.
01:01:11
jamie peacock
Sing.
01:01:11
Curt
I don't have anything to talk i have to talk about anyways, but I like how when anytime there's a lull, it's like, play it!
01:01:13
jamie peacock
Okay, anyway.
01:01:15
Curt
Don't let that Kurt guy talk. No one likes him anyways. hu
01:01:19
jamie peacock
So, we have a new Patreon. Um... Addy? Adywa? Thank you for joining the Patreon. Sorry, need to go look up the the new Patreon. And then special thanks to all of our top tier Patreons, who are Jade at Benchmark20, Luke from Fabtastic, AJ from Subtract Manufacturing and 21 other companies, EJ from Nocturnal Welding, j Jason S and the Aussie Machinist.
01:01:42
jamie peacock
You guys make the wheels on the podcast, go round and round, and give us funds to kidnap Kurt for IMTS next year. Or not sleep on the street once we've kidnapped Kurt. One of the two. But yeah, the Patreons get access to the after show and they send Kurt, well, we'll send out a link and then a give us your addresses and we'll send you things.
01:01:59
Curt
Yes.
01:02:01
jamie peacock
It'll be exciting.
01:02:02
Curt
Yes.
01:02:03
jamie peacock
They mostly won't be AJ's dead mass.
01:02:04
Curt
Yes.
01:02:07
Curt
That's such a weird story.
01:02:08
jamie peacock
He has six of them. His six top Patreons, I think, should get dead mass.
01:02:13
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:13
jamie peacock
I hope I'm not one of them.
01:02:13
Curt
Yeah. Hard pass. Hard pass.
01:02:16
jamie peacock
It'll be great.
01:02:18
Curt
ah
01:02:18
jamie peacock
and Yeah, so, well, yeah, we left that right to the end.
01:02:19
Curt
All right.
01:02:22
jamie peacock
But anyway, oh, speaking of Patreons and things, the shirts will be, all the shirts will be available from today um until episode 50 comes out because some smart dick forgot that we were recording ahead of time and said they'll all be available there too.
01:02:34
Curt
Ooh.
01:02:39
jamie peacock
So for Black Friday, also known as African Friday, they will be available right through, including this one.
01:02:40
Curt
Right.
01:02:46
Curt
It's rough.
01:02:48
jamie peacock
ah
01:02:48
Curt
Oh, yeah, man.
01:02:49
jamie peacock
Never got a moment with me. What is in your Google box?
01:02:53
Curt
um My Google box is less than exciting. It's a bunch of Blender tutorials because once again, i'm doing that. um
01:03:00
jamie peacock
Shock and awe.
01:03:01
Curt
Some ah medical stuff, which I briefly talked about on our guest episode. But yeah, basically like a
01:03:07
jamie peacock
Three weeks in the future, yes.
01:03:09
Curt
three weeks in the future. So yeah, I've had a little bit of downtime just to kind of sit and ah relax. So that's kind of boring stuff. um
3D Printing & Engineering Projects
01:03:16
Curt
And Prusa's news video, um which is kind of a little stab, I'm assuming, at Bamboo because obviously they're taking their lunch.
01:03:25
Curt
So it was actually a pretty cool video.
01:03:26
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:03:26
Curt
They they put their big XL unit in a car and drove it off a cliff.
01:03:27
jamie peacock
Okay, I haven't seen that video, but no, I have not seen this.
01:03:30
Curt
and Have you seen this yet? It's pretty cool.
01:03:34
jamie peacock
But did you see the new tool change? I saw some stuff about that.
01:03:37
Curt
A little bit, I think. I haven't watched any of the full-on.
01:03:39
jamie peacock
Nozzle changing, where it just changes the nozzle.
01:03:42
Curt
That's smart. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
01:03:43
jamie peacock
Yes, it looks very interesting. I i haven't dived into it.
01:03:48
Curt
But, yeah, you can tell their their new video is definitely going for, like, our printers are built to, like, last, not just to print.
01:03:49
jamie peacock
Not that interesting. really print
01:03:55
Curt
And I thought it was actually a pretty well-done video and kind of tries to drive home the point of what they're going for.
01:03:58
jamie peacock
No.
01:04:00
Curt
So, yeah, it was...
01:04:01
jamie peacock
Yes. Like their printers are expensive because they are manufactured in the EU and the EU pays real wages. Um, yeah.
01:04:08
Curt
Well, and the they leaned in hard to a few aspects where the the whole the only aspects I basically would still be looking at Prusa for is of like, we don't, like, you're free to use a printer how you want to use it.
01:04:20
Curt
We're not going to lock you out via firmware upgrades.
01:04:20
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:04:23
Curt
And everything we're putting into it is built like a tank. It's going to last. Like, I know the bamboo printers are fantastic, but I have heard from people running farms that, like, they don't last.
01:04:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:04:30
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:04:32
Curt
Like, you they're they're dispen or disposable.
01:04:32
jamie peacock
Well, yeah.
01:04:36
Curt
You use them and then you get rid of them.
01:04:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, disposable. Well, that's what the dude on Slant 3D said. It's like, you can't you can't run a farm on someone else's machine. That's why they built their own machines.
01:04:44
Curt
Right.
01:04:45
jamie peacock
You can't rely on someone else's machine being reliable, serviceable, and always available.
01:04:46
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:52
jamie peacock
Look, they can lock you out on firmware.
01:04:53
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:54
jamie peacock
a whole bunch of stuff they can do. So that was quite interesting. I will go look for that ah for that video.
01:04:58
Curt
How about, how
01:05:01
Curt
I'll link it in the show notes. We'll, I'll, we'll see the link.
01:05:02
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:05:03
Curt
it bra It's like five minutes long. It's actually kind of well done as well. Good.
01:05:06
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:05:06
Curt
Good for them.
01:05:06
jamie peacock
Oh, cool.
01:05:06
Curt
I hope, I hope I want them to exist. I want them to pressure each other, but yeah, they are getting stomped because obviously bamboo is just a way better user experience.
01:05:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:13
Curt
So I get that too.
01:05:14
jamie peacock
I think that, yeah, they've also got a lot more engineers throwing engineering time at it.
01:05:19
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
01:05:20
jamie peacock
Although, I don't know it these days. Like, Prusa's not small anymore, but I think the R&D budget and whatnot at... and Bamboo is a lot bigger than Prusa.
01:05:31
Curt
Well, and they like we talked about, they sat on their laurels because they got the, they had the the market share and then they got a little bit slow.
01:05:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:05:37
jamie peacock
They had the mark. Yeah.
01:05:39
Curt
Yeah. And they quickly got, yeah.
01:05:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, they took too long to innovate. And now they're on their back foot.
01:05:43
Curt
Yeah.
01:05:44
jamie peacock
um So what i'm curious to see is if we're going get any comments on episode 50.
01:05:44
Curt
Totally. Totally.
01:05:49
jamie peacock
Because my Google box is exactly the same.
01:05:52
Curt
Oh, okay.
01:05:53
jamie peacock
yeah
01:05:53
Curt
ah Nice.
01:05:56
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, so, yeah, I've been looking up most type of things. ah Tunnel tracking, though, actually, I need to check na now after the show because those should have both been delivered today, including some exciting Easter eggs on the engravings. um Yeah, looking up relays so that my drives can fault my um machines out if they fault out.
01:06:17
jamie peacock
And then a rotor tanks because I want to build an Auro system. Speaking of relays, um v Emco spindle was hitting a hissy fit the other day.
Troubleshooting & Content Access
01:06:29
jamie peacock
And I come machine, I'm like, why it an e-stop?
01:06:29
Curt
Okay.
01:06:31
jamie peacock
Why wouldn't it go out of e-stop? A little weird. Yeah, wired it in into the e-stop circuit. So if that drive faults, the machine e-stops. But it won't come out of e-stop until you reset the fault.
01:06:40
Curt
Mm.
01:06:42
jamie peacock
So yeah, took me a little while to figure out what I had done there. Because Jamie's illiteracy in wiring.
01:06:49
Curt
ah
01:06:50
jamie peacock
Ooh, this is video. um So, what where can people find your your stuff, Kurt?
01:06:57
Curt
You can find my lack of any way to buy my stuff at confoundermachine.com. I am going to try my best to put out a first come first serve sale before Christmas here. This next sale is kind of basically still lottery claimed because of the fananigans.
01:07:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:11
Curt
Fananigans, that's a word. of Last time. But I'm going to do my best to try to do a lottery sale yet and then a first come first serve.
01:07:12
jamie peacock
Shenanigans.
01:07:17
Curt
So if you don't, if you're not in the lottery and you can't sign up on the contact page, there is an email. can put your email in there. I send out information to everybody for first come first serve sales they're kind of madness but that'll be your next best chance until the new year then i'll reopen the doors um yeah so and the links to the podcast all that jazz media links all over there how about you master jamie
01:07:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:36
jamie peacock
Yeah. All the fun stuff. ah Yeah. Jspec underscore engineering on Instagram. You can follow the day-to-day shenanigans in the workshop. um Jspeceng.com. You can find the Anchor Point, the Frame Lock Utility Knife, the t-shirts, um and then the LoanMachinists.com is the website for the podcast where you can find some bonus content and the companion guide as well as a link to the merch store specific for the Anchor Point.
01:08:01
Curt
Thank
01:08:03
jamie peacock
Not the Anchor Point. the loan machinist stuff where all these shirts will be available for the next three-ish weeks because I'm very smart. Yeah.
01:08:12
Curt
yeah
01:08:13
jamie peacock
What are you to today, guys?
01:08:16
Curt
Today I have, I think, all my manufacturing done. So I'm going to do some final finishing. And I think, yeah, I'm just going to basically take it easy, kind of slowly ramp into the week. um Yeah, that's about it. Kind of boring, but that pays the bills.
01:08:35
jamie peacock
I
01:08:37
Curt
How about you? What are you up to
01:08:39
jamie peacock
am toying with the idea of going and working this evening because I need to take stuff to Anno tomorrow but I've also got to be up early tomorrow thinking I'll just be up early tomorrow machine the parts and then get Danik to take them to Anno for me although I need to go buy a chuck so it's like yeah the Anno place and the chuck place are kind of close together so I might do it tomorrow I might push it till Wednesday I might just push it out till Wednesday and be like
01:08:43
Curt
to? Ooh.
01:08:52
Curt
Yeah, it's an option.
01:08:59
Curt
Fair.
01:09:05
jamie peacock
let me just spend tomorrow in the shop and catch up on everything and get ahead and then I can push out to go get the chuck for the for Spinderella and the chuck for spin doctor, mine are called lathes, that we can actually turn some stuff and make some make some money.
01:09:16
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
01:09:20
jamie peacock
Because I keep having to tell people to bugger off because I don't have any way to hold their parts.
01:09:26
Curt
Yeah, that's a bummer.
01:09:26
jamie peacock
Not that I really want to be doing their tool steel work. Like, not really worth it.
01:09:30
Curt
Fair.
01:09:32
jamie peacock
He's going a cry when he discovers that it's now a a fixed fee per setup.
01:09:39
jamie peacock
It is what it is.
01:09:39
Curt
Yeah, is what it is.
01:09:40
jamie peacock
My time is worth something. Yeah, time is time has a value.
01:09:42
Curt
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh, absolutely.
01:09:43
jamie peacock
Sorry. I used to be cheap. I'm not cheap anymore.
01:09:45
Curt
Yeah.
01:09:46
jamie peacock
Like, it is what it is. If you don't like it, find someone else. So, yeah, that's, I think, a conversation we're gonna have to have to year with a bunch of our customers where it's like, sorry, guys. Like, I'm not actually interested. I'm making little M2 screws or 2.5 screws at, oh fuck, I think they're like a dollar a piece.
01:10:04
jamie peacock
But the machine just runs. And it's fine.
01:10:07
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:08
jamie peacock
I'm making better than my normal shop rates on it. Let it run. Like, I'd rather do that than fuck around on a piece of tool steel that when I scrap, have to replace.
01:10:12
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:17
jamie peacock
I'd rather be doing little brass things that if I make a scrap, I'm, oh no, throw it in the bin and make another one.
01:10:17
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:23
Curt
Yeah, no doubt.
01:10:24
jamie peacock
Focusing on what I enjoy doing.
01:10:25
Curt
No.
Conclusion & Farewell
01:10:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway, thank you everybody for listening. And ah if you're listening on a listening place, you can see our faces on a face-seeing place like YouTube or Spotify. um If you want to be creepy and watch on Zencast like AJ, you can do that too.
01:10:41
jamie peacock
But thank you everybody for for watching and we'll see you next week.
01:10:44
Curt
Poor AJ.
01:10:46
jamie peacock
And well, for the Patreons, we'll see you now now.
01:10:49
Curt
Take... Take care, all.