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Ep. 49: One Spring to Rule Them All.
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Join Curt and Jamie as they flirt with disaster via stainless chip-welds, rogue wave springs, and Spinderella doing witchcraft-level tolerances.
They also endure pot-plant side quests, vacuum-fixture dark magic, and a Chop-o-Matic jailbreak that dumps 10 kilos of pins on the floor.
Peak chaos, peak craftsmanship, peak “why are we like this?”
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Transcript
Welcome and Introduction
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Loan Machines podcast where it's just you, your tools and the work. Kurt, what you got going on today?
Kurt's Projects and Innovations
00:00:06
Curt
ah Today I'm going to talk about actually doing big boy work on my manual lathe, some wave washers, which I think will make my little fidget mechanisms possible to make, and a new lottery system, now with SMS messaging, because that's what people wanted. But how about
Jamie's Ventures and Challenges
00:00:21
Curt
you, Jamie? what are What are we talking about in your world?
00:00:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, lots of late nights because accidentally sold all anchor points. Spinderella is freaking awesome. And the return of the Chop-a-matic. Yeah, so how are you doing today, Kurt?
00:00:38
Curt
I'm doing good with that last one, the chop-o-matic. i'm so I'm so much more interested in that than anything else, but we'll leave that for like hour 42 into the podcast so that people have to listen to it.
00:00:45
jamie peacock
Yes. We'll definitely talk about it in the first 15 minutes and then discuss it an hour and 15.
00:00:54
jamie peacock
oh
00:00:54
Curt
ah Yeah, that was awesome.
00:00:55
jamie peacock
I think quite like, a yeah, the dude did you did you listen to the song at the end of that?
00:01:00
Curt
Oh, of course. Now that's I have to.
00:01:01
jamie peacock
Dude.
00:01:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:02
jamie peacock
Yes. Yeah. The taps and patience episode for some context from last week.
Musical Interlude and Shoutouts
00:01:07
jamie peacock
AJ was meant to shout out Subtract Manufacturing. Speaking of, if you need parts made, go check out Subtract Manufacturing. um
00:01:13
Curt
First two minutes.
00:01:13
jamie peacock
There we go. Exactly. 1 minute 15, AJ. We know to do it properly. AJ was meant to shout them out and only got to it an hour and 15 minutes into their podcast.
00:01:24
jamie peacock
So Jacob made a lovely song and yeah, it was awesome. Like, yeah, it started playing.
00:01:29
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:30
jamie peacock
I'm like, that is Dropkick Murphys. Actually, Jacob wasn't online on Friday.
00:01:33
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:01:34
jamie peacock
I wanted to ask him about it. I'll just have to wait till this Friday to harass him.
00:01:39
Curt
Yeah, I'm... I like AI music does make my skin crawl, but it is amazing how, like how fast it's getting, like how much better it's getting.
00:01:40
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:01:45
jamie peacock
yeah
00:01:48
Curt
How fat, well, know what I'm talking about?
00:01:49
jamie peacock
yeah how quickly it's getting so good yeah but it's also because it can hide the the weirdness in the music because
00:01:50
Curt
How quickly it's getting better. Yeah.
AI and Reading Speed Debate
00:01:59
jamie peacock
like if you just generate voice although having said that no notepad lm you can say you give it a paper say make me a podcast about this and that is yeah it even hedges
00:01:59
Curt
Right. Right.
00:02:10
jamie peacock
So I get a little, yeah, like, um, um, um, and you're like dude, you're on AI, just speak the words.
00:02:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:02:16
Curt
Yeah. We're, we're so, we're so cooked.
00:02:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:18
Curt
We're done.
00:02:18
jamie peacock
But yeah, Danica uses that a lot because she reads quite slowly, which I find very interesting because she reads a shitload.
00:02:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:02:23
Curt
Hmm.
00:02:24
jamie peacock
But yeah, I've noticed she reads, well, she says she reads slowly. And I've noticed when I've shown inappropriate memes to people on the phone, they read them a lot faster than she does.
00:02:34
Curt
Hmm. Hmm.
00:02:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:35
Curt
pin Interesting.
00:02:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, Instagram, and it's inappropriate memes.
00:02:37
Curt
Hmm.
00:02:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:02:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, so.
00:02:41
Curt
So, i said what do you want to lead with?
00:02:44
jamie peacock
Ooh, okay. Hmm.
Shipping and Production Insights
00:02:46
Curt
Actually, I'm going to pick one.
00:02:46
jamie peacock
Hmm.
00:02:47
Curt
I want to...
00:02:48
jamie peacock
like you pick
00:02:50
Curt
Oh, let's talk anchor points. They're all gone?
00:02:52
jamie peacock
Yes, there are eight of them in my workshop and boxes ready to go out. I couldn't ship them today because magical box wasn't ticked. And yeah, don't know. I'll get all the tunnel tomorrow and find out what the hell's going on.
00:03:04
jamie peacock
I was prepped and ready to ship and then it wouldn't let me actually book the shipments, which is a little tedious, but is what it is.
00:03:11
Curt
Wow.
00:03:11
jamie peacock
I'll find them tomorrow. But yeah, put like that went together quickly because that order came through on Friday, I'm saying.
00:03:19
Curt
Sick. Awesome. That's awesome.
00:03:20
jamie peacock
so i was short i was short five pots
00:03:21
Curt
That's good. That's wicked.
00:03:26
Curt
Uh-oh.
00:03:27
jamie peacock
so i made ah i had the material on hand for 10 pieces it's the main gripper cage uh when i set up to make them last time i scrapped a few more than i expected yeah i got 30 those 10 pieces um those ten pieces
00:03:42
jamie peacock
Just new and new machine figuring out where it's happy. Like, not like it was just surface finish stuff.
00:03:42
Curt
o who Okay.
00:03:47
Curt
Yeah. Oh,
00:03:48
jamie peacock
Like on size, just I wasn't happy with them. And then i was like, okay, I'll just order more material, but kind of need more than three.
00:03:51
Curt
okay.
00:03:56
jamie peacock
So then I was like, wait, I've got this now. It's meant to be out of 40 millimeter 303. I'm like, wait, I've got some 60 mil that I ordered for a job that never came through. Like I was ordering, so just threw there. So I had another six pieces.
00:04:07
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:04:08
jamie peacock
And of those, 100% success rate. So I ended up with a few spares and yeah then over the weekend, assembled them, anodized them, assembled them, and pretty happy with the consistency of the anodize over eight runs. I did nine anodize runs in one day.
00:04:24
jamie peacock
So I did all eight anchor points and then another batch of blue that I needed done in one day.
00:04:24
Curt
Oh, wow.
00:04:24
Curt
Wow, OK.
Technical Setup and Workflow
00:04:30
Curt
Yeah, they they looked good, like on the little pan shot you had on your stories. I'm like, oh, those all look like they were done in one batch. Like, they're pretty consistent.
00:04:35
jamie peacock
There was a little bit of inconsistency, but kind it kind of to be expected. Like, as the pH of the dire shifts and the temperature of the bath shifts, like, there's all these variables.
00:04:46
jamie peacock
But if you're not staring at it looking for issues, you're not going to find it.
00:04:47
Curt
Right.
00:04:51
jamie peacock
um And yeah, those all got serialized up. And the only issue there is I only have three batch ones left in stock. And we're going into December slash January.
00:04:59
Curt
Ah.
00:05:02
jamie peacock
So I ordered material don't know if I think which day of the week it is. Today's Monday. So ordered material last week, Thursday. win I must have thought on Wednesday. I don't know Anyway, um ordered Toolsteel to make new pads for it.
00:05:19
jamie peacock
ah The gripper pads. Well, not the gripper, the main contact pads. That material arrived the following day. It was, yeah, this morning. what's today sorry i'm confused which day of the week it is it arrived on friday i machined them on i laid them on saturday uh till like 11 o'clock at night got that done then yesterday i quickly milled them and then today they were at that heat treat already so that's one of the things that i was concerned with um there's one more component for batch three that we short of and then we materials on hand for everything and we can just work through it as we need or as we get time over december so
00:05:44
Curt
Wow. Nice.
00:05:56
Curt
Nice.
00:05:58
jamie peacock
But yeah, we're doing another batch.
00:05:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:59
jamie peacock
So batch three, planning to release in the beginning of January.
00:06:03
Curt
Cool, cool. Oh, that's good.
00:06:04
jamie peacock
Another 20 of them.
00:06:04
Curt
That's awesome. Is this whole, is that little like teal blue batch all going to one customer?
00:06:12
jamie peacock
It is all going to one machine.
00:06:14
Curt
Okay, okay. So consistency is kind of important in that sense.
00:06:15
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:06:17
jamie peacock
Yeah, kind of important. Like, yeah, he wasn't really too phased about the the color. I'm like, I'll see how consistent I can make it But yeah, all eight are going in a machine. So we had a chat about potential error stackups. um
00:06:17
Curt
Yeah, yeah,
00:06:27
Curt
yeah. Yeah, that's a lot.
00:06:28
jamie peacock
Just, well, just from the way they manufactured, like there's tolerance, there's bunch tolerance stackups. But yeah, the he's basically goingnna just marked with his fiber laser, which one goes in which position and put them in probe the pin here, probe the pin there. And then the other pins are all clearance. He's putting over four of them. He's putting a single fixture over four of them, kind of like, well, same as my Harvins.
00:06:48
jamie peacock
So actually only two pins are critical.
00:06:49
Curt
Gotcha.
00:06:50
jamie peacock
So you can just probe them, figure out their relationship and be done with it.
Workshop Reorganization
00:06:55
Curt
Cool. Cool.
00:06:55
jamie peacock
And yeah, are speaking thinking of that, I updated my model of my table to have the anchor points exactly where they are.
00:06:56
Curt
Yeah, that works.
00:07:03
jamie peacock
So when I put my big-ass vacuum chuck on, I have an accurate model of that because that is the, on top of that fixture, it's programmed off of the center of travels because I need all the millimeters of travel that I have.
00:07:17
jamie peacock
So yeah, I was busy with that. yesterday and then today this evening when we're done recording i'm going to go back into the workshop and start getting that put into the machine and getting all the sister tools set up for the tough yeah so i'm going to see how many sister tools i can build up hopefully i can build up three of each because i bought three of each of the end mills i need for it that i just i have redundancy if one wears out breaks whatever i just switch to different tool number and carry on with my life
00:07:30
Curt
oh
00:07:45
Curt
Oh, I guess I keep forgetting it's like a composite like glass fibery kind of dealio, right?
00:07:48
jamie peacock
yeah
00:07:49
Curt
Like it. Yeah. So it eats tools.
00:07:50
jamie peacock
it's paper and phenolic resin it smells like death
00:07:53
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. It's weird how like, yeah, you can cut through like tool steel and it doesn't.
00:07:58
jamie peacock
it doesn't eat tools no it doesn't really eat tools too badly um it's just i like to have space because my tool setter comes off to run it i need all the millimeters like literally
00:08:00
Curt
Oh, no.
00:08:09
Curt
Oh, I gotcha. I gotcha. Sure.
00:08:13
jamie peacock
I had to change the program last time the way it roughs so that it wouldn't go outside of the 710 millimeters of travel because it's 705 millimeters long with material.
00:08:24
Curt
o Yeah, okay. I get that now.
00:08:26
jamie peacock
Like I think I adapted it out and then i like leave a little bit on the end and that gets taken out of the six millimeter end mill.
00:08:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:34
jamie peacock
that that fits within the travels.
00:08:34
Curt
Gotcha.
00:08:35
jamie peacock
So yeah, and then the issue is the OPTU fixture drops onto the vacuum chuck with dial pins and bolts. So the vacuum fixture has to be in a pretty accurate position.
00:08:47
Curt
Right, right.
00:08:48
jamie peacock
So last night I was running something on G57. So I just jogged there, took the machine's actual value, and then made sure my Fusion model all matched up.
00:08:57
Curt
Right, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:58
jamie peacock
Because I'm now going to go, made two skinny
00:08:59
Curt
Hmm.
00:09:02
jamie peacock
um mooring pallets they're going to drop on then i'm going to because now i know where they are in relation to the machines travels machine the holes then put the vacuum the small vacuum chuck on the small 400 by 400 one vacuum the the big fixture down make sure it's square probe it from one of the edges or if there's a center probe it and then put the counter balls in take it off again put it onto those risers and bolt it down and indicate everything in and make sure it's exactly where it needs to be.
00:09:33
jamie peacock
But then after that, I can unclamp the two anchor points and lift it off, drop it back on, and it repeats exactly where it needs to be.
00:09:39
Curt
Right.
Machining Stories and Learnings
00:09:40
jamie peacock
So that that's the whole luck the whole goal is to get to that point because obviously i took the riser out, so now everything's fucked.
00:09:40
Curt
Yeah, that's nice.
00:09:48
jamie peacock
I don't have my setup that I had.
00:09:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:51
Curt
Right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah.
00:09:52
jamie peacock
And then also don't have vacuum gasket because that would be too fucking easy.
00:09:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:58
jamie peacock
So ordered vacuum gasket last week. Normally they keep stock. it said they had stock. So I ordered 20 feet, which was way more money than it should have been. And I get an email from them. Hey, sorry, we're out of stock. It's going on back order. We're going to order on Thursday from the US. I'm okay, cool.
00:10:16
jamie peacock
Then I get an email on Thursday. Oh, it's Thanksgiving. We're ordering on Monday. Okay. because have been here tomorrow.
00:10:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:24
jamie peacock
Now it's going to be here end of the week.
00:10:24
Curt
Right.
00:10:25
jamie peacock
So I went to Leroy Merlin, our hardware store thing here, bought some expansion gap foam, like foam cord. It does not seal appropriately.
00:10:34
Curt
Mm-mm.
00:10:36
jamie peacock
So now I ordered some six millimeter cord from another place that Danica is going to go and fetch for me in the morning.
00:10:42
Curt
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:10:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, like, but yeah, vacuum, vacuum fixturing is freaking full of magic.
00:10:44
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:47
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. I need to make one.
00:10:48
jamie peacock
like really is dude like super full of magic uh but yeah the tuftal is ticking off all the things in one call what is happening sorry dude my brain is cooked you can be called today yeah so i was reading cold thing about karl's lathe um yeah so explain to me what happened on the stainless steel stuff
00:11:01
Curt
I could be Carl. That's right. don't be in Carl. Carl's a nice name. I saw that. Yeah. yeah
00:11:13
Curt
uh so just a stainless steel just was a very easy stainless steel job just kind of a favor for somebody and i was like yeah of course i can do it like i it it's about two inch diameter so it's kind of too big for the hard inch i can put i have a three jaw chuck that can go in the hard inch but it's such a hassle to put it in there and because it's it's a collet chuck so it only goes inch in and an eighth is about as big as you can get for five c collets
00:11:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:36
Curt
So you know what I'll do? i will I'll get this stainless chunk. I will put it in my manual lathe. you know It's two inches. I'll turn like a one-inch boss on one side. I'll flip it around, plop that into the collet on the hard inch.
00:11:48
Curt
It'll do all the fancy work, some radius work that would just be super tedious to turn.
00:11:51
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:51
Curt
um And then when I'm done with that, I'll just pull it back out, and I will do the finishing where I just like part it off.
00:11:57
Curt
It's not a critical part. like You could do it with ah a file, which I ended up doing with a file because... As soon as I... ah The hardened channel did just fine. and machined it beautifully.
00:12:08
Curt
Stainless... I machined titanium so long, I forget that like other materials aren't brutal. like You can get away with so much. Stainless, you you don't have to have it coolant on it at all times.
00:12:19
Curt
It doesn't want to just kill you at all times. like I was worried about the chips.
00:12:21
jamie peacock
It isn't sticky.
00:12:23
Curt
I'm like, yeah. I'm like, oh, the chips are going to light on fire. I'm like, no, no, wait. Stainless. like They're not going to light on fire. I don't have to worry about this. and like Just dumb things that like are ingrained in my head um from working with Ty for so long.
00:12:33
Curt
But... Anyways, ah pulled it back out, put it in the manual, started parting it off. It's just high-speed steel tool because i didn't i my carbide tool is not a deep enough throat to part it.
00:12:44
Curt
was like, you know what? I'll use my cheap high-speed steel parting tool and just crank it way out and just crank through it and have the surface feet way low because, like I said, i just all I have to do is part this off. And I had to hold it on the radius end because, of course, so there's no holding force.
00:12:57
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:58
Curt
And I'm using aluminum little spacers so I'm not marring the new finish. And I'm parting away and it's going just fine. i'm dribbling a little coolant and they're just going away. was like, this is going to be a cakewalk. And then all hell breaks loose. It chip welds.
00:13:11
Curt
I didn't catch it fast enough. It bites, pulls the whole part out of the three jaw, mars the shit out of the nice, beautifully turned surface that I was so happy with, blows up my little high speed steel parting tool,
00:13:23
Curt
yeah Thankfully, I was deep enough that I could just finish you know cutting off with a bandsaw. Then I literally flipped it over in the lathe and used a file to take the nastiness off it. Turned the OD down.
00:13:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:31
Curt
Like I said, it's not a critical part. um But it was just like, 10-minute job turned into three-hour job.
00:13:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:38
Curt
Like that. so
00:13:39
jamie peacock
Yep, they do that.
00:13:42
jamie peacock
They do that often.
00:13:42
Curt
But it was actually fun to be able...
00:13:44
Curt
I had taken that two inch down. The part was only about, well, one part is like two inch, but the other part was one inch.
00:13:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:49
Curt
So I had to bark off like, you know, a good half inch material all around.
00:13:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:53
Curt
So I actually get to push the, my big manual lathe here. I was like, oh, how much can I get away with? You know, and just like deeper, deeper, deeper.
00:14:00
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:00
Curt
And it's like, and it's like, I could hear the motor bogging down. i'm like, Ooh, I I've never heard this before because my work is tiny.
00:14:06
jamie peacock
actually being used.
00:14:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:08
jamie peacock
Well, that deal that's what ah that's why it took me seven parts to get good parts because I was seeing how fast I could go.
00:14:09
Curt
was kind of fun.
00:14:14
jamie peacock
Turns out if I just run at the same speed I used to run it at, it's perfect.
00:14:18
jamie peacock
So I was running constant surface speed. yup you know I was burning through inserts in the K110 as well, but I think I was a little bit, I was at 120 meters per minute. I should have been closer to like 80 according to the insert box.
00:14:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:28
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:14:29
jamie peacock
So I think I was just a little bit on the high end, not the end of the world.
00:14:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:33
jamie peacock
I don't know. Yeah. That, uh, flange, the spot plug was quite fancy.
00:14:37
Curt
Oh yeah, no, like you said, an expert only. Yeah, just like a huge radius top and then just like no flange. So yeah, be careful boys and girls. Tis the time of year, right?
00:14:46
jamie peacock
Yep. Uh, yeah, I know people get up to weird shit now. Um, oh yes.
00:14:51
Curt
Actually, the best part is my mom works in the yeah ER or worked in the yeah ER and like, yeah, i always had crazy stories of like, I fell off my counter.
00:14:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:14:59
Curt
It's like, oh, did you? Yeah. And the salt shaker was just on the ground, I guess.
00:15:01
jamie peacock
Uh, Oh yeah.
00:15:04
Curt
ah Anyways. ah
00:15:06
jamie peacock
thanks for that image good uh um yeah carl's late leaves today um when this is it will probably have left my driveway already it's yeah we so we went and got chucks last week trying to think yeah when's it got chucks got the chucks on my plan for for adapting them did not work as planned because turns out the a2-5 taper
00:15:08
Curt
Yeah, no sweat.
00:15:14
Curt
Wow.
00:15:18
Curt
Oh, okay, cool. Mm-hmm.
00:15:33
jamie peacock
The spec refers to the female side the taper, not the male side of the taper. So Carl's taper was 9mm long, the pocket's 15 deep. My one was like seven millimeters long and the pocket's 15 millimeters freaking deep.
00:15:48
jamie peacock
So I ended up having to print a spacer just to get the O-ring where where we needed it um so that it would locate. But yeah, got ah got them located, turned, wrote it's a really cool little program to, i actually use it now for doing softwares.
00:16:00
jamie peacock
So it's wherever you are is where it starts. your x so you just say go to say you want to make like a 30 millimeter pocket or 35 pockets and you're at 28 millimeters you come a millimeter in front of your jaws hit cycle starts it spins up cuts in and set amounts so in absolute mode Then we'll jog clear in incremental mode, jog back in absolute, go back into incremental, go a millimeter bigger, go back into absolute mode.
00:16:29
jamie peacock
Then you hit start and it'll cut some, every time just, super just like, you just keep so punching the button and every time it goes a millimeter bigger.
00:16:29
Curt
cool
00:16:35
jamie peacock
Like super useful little piece of code that are cobbled together for us to do our chuck adapters. So yeah, I got the chuck onto Spinderella as well. And then got his chuck, the chucks we bought, I'm really happy with.
00:16:49
jamie peacock
the chuck i bought was cheaper than or one for cars which the 160 was cheaper than the one i bought for bertha by like 30 percent and like twice as good as the one i had that was on bertha like really happy with the quality and the holding force we were doing some silly shit testing the machines so yeah we did some test cuts on carl's machine it's loud as fuck because it's got a timing belt uh new timing belts arrives tomorrow i think um
00:17:01
Curt
Oh wow.
00:17:05
Curt
Wow.
00:17:19
jamie peacock
And yeah, we did some test cuts, made sure could do threading. We did threading with a DCMT insert because that's what we had. Just wrote again, hand wrote the code that it would just G33 in with a K feed rate.
00:17:32
jamie peacock
Thread, pull out, comma two down every time. We just ran it like five or six times just to make sure it keeps sync. So his machine is leaving today. We'll have left already. um And his phase converter, I think, is being delivered tomorrow as well.
00:17:46
Curt
Awesome.
00:17:48
jamie peacock
So then I think Friday night I'm going there for dinner to go and climb in the ceiling and pull wire and get him hooked up and powered on.
00:17:48
Curt
Cool.
SMS Lottery System Evolution
00:17:55
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:17:55
jamie peacock
So yeah, so my driveway will be free of Carl's lathe. It's quite exciting.
00:17:59
Curt
yeah um Jamie's full on plug and play.
00:18:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:18:04
Curt
up. says set up
00:18:06
jamie peacock
I need his fucking lathe out of my driveway so my new car can go in there.
00:18:07
Curt
but
00:18:09
jamie peacock
So I got my brother-in-law's second-hand Land Rover Freelander 2.
00:18:10
Curt
Ooh.
00:18:14
jamie peacock
um Yeah, he got a range drove a second-hand Range Rover from his uncle and then playing parcel along with cars. So I need to be able to park the fucking thing. So lathe needs to go and along with the shack.
00:18:26
Curt
Fair, fair.
00:18:26
jamie peacock
So yeah, I don't plan on having another machine in the driveway for a while.
00:18:28
Curt
ah
00:18:30
jamie peacock
Like, till next week.
00:18:32
Curt
I say, yeah, you've heard it here, folks. Start your timers.
00:18:34
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. It's a countdown time. So tell me about this new lottery system you have.
00:18:40
jamie peacock
Is that going into effect in the new year?
00:18:40
Curt
Okay, so I think going to actually get it launched hopefully before Christmas here.
00:18:46
Curt
um
00:18:47
jamie peacock
I got it. Yes. Yeah.
00:18:48
Curt
Because like the one request I get from a lot of people, like I look at just the stats of people purchasing on my site, and a ton of people purchase via their phones. Because everyone's had you have your phone on you at all times. And yeah, the millennials out there, they always say big screen and small screen purchases.
00:19:03
Curt
some Some things I'll purchase on my phone, some things I need a computer, but yeah. Vast majority people purchase my stuff through their phone. So anyways, um people have asked for like SMS notifications instead of email because that would be more efficient for them.
00:19:15
Curt
And I can do that. So I found a system where I can basically have all that set up so that I can text them um if they win the lottery and they can just buy that way, which is probably significantly easier for most folks. So I'm going to send out a new email.
00:19:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:28
Curt
It's going to be a generic lottery. It's not going to be for specific pens because that's getting way too tedious to try to maintain. um It'll basically just be like, if you're interested my shit, here's, enter. And I'm going to take a bunch more information than I normally would take from people just so I can better screen things. Be like, oh, are you interested in just one product or multiple products? Like,
00:19:46
Curt
ah Do you have products already purchased? Like bla bla blah, bla blah, blah, blah. Like just a bunch of things so I can like make more educated decisions. um Even if I don't use the data, then I have the data.
00:19:53
jamie peacock
okay
00:19:54
Curt
And i mean, you don't have to enter it. But anyway, so I'm going to do that. Have the SMS options. And then it'll also let me cross reference the list and make sure that I'm killing off all the dead like emails that no one has interest anymore.
00:20:06
jamie peacock
yeah okay
00:20:08
Curt
So. Yeah, I think I'll do that. I think good i think it'll work. well i've I've pared down my ah lottery enough that i if I reopen, i'm not i'm not i don't want to reopen to the old method because it's just going to be so much work to keep cleaning it.
00:20:19
jamie peacock
yeah because i know um michael from gimbal automation was saying they had an issue where the by now link wasn't working on their website
00:20:21
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:29
jamie peacock
or the checkout link wasn't working.
00:20:29
Curt
Oh, that's a bad...
00:20:31
jamie peacock
And he reckons they fixed that and their mobile sales, only on their mobile site. And then mobile their sales over mobile went up by like 60%.
00:20:37
Curt
Ah...
00:20:42
Curt
Yike, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:42
jamie peacock
A lot of people buy stuff on their phone. I mean, ahll surf the web on my phone and then I'll be like, okay, okay cool, i need to actually sit at a computer.
00:20:45
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:20:49
jamie peacock
And then I'll go sit at a computer and order this stuff.
00:20:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:51
jamie peacock
But a lot of the things I do, I'll just do it on my phone.
00:20:53
Curt
Well, and like your phone is linked to so many payment methods. like my eye My site accepts usually all the like Google Pay, Apple Pay, all the fast methods.
00:20:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:00
Curt
And almost all orders come through on mobile just because it's convenient.
00:21:01
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:04
Curt
And it's not a high enough dollar where people are really all that concerned about it.
00:21:04
jamie peacock
That's easier.
00:21:07
jamie peacock
Well, that's the thing.
00:21:08
Curt
So yeah.
00:21:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's not high enough dollar that people feel the need to go sit at their computer to do it.
00:21:13
Curt
Yeah, and maybe that's just our thing. Like, I don't know.
00:21:17
jamie peacock
It might just be the the the age range we're in like that that seems to be the thing.
00:21:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:21
jamie peacock
Yeah. You know, as millennials.
00:21:22
Curt
Yeah, but... yeah Yeah, so anyways, I'm kind of jazzed about that just to try to make my make my world a little bit better. And then I can do better branded marketing if I actually have people's names and like dumb stuff I've never collected in the past because I'm like, I don't want to get more information than I need.
00:21:34
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:21:37
Curt
But it's like, no, it turns out some of that stuff can be helpful. So, yeah.
00:21:40
jamie peacock
Some of it, yeah, can be very, very helpful.
Influencer Journey and Tech Challenges
00:21:43
Curt
Well, I don't want to spam people with stuff.
00:21:43
jamie peacock
Okay, now I'm just, yeah.
00:21:44
Curt
So, but just like being able to like, and like just dumb things like cross-reference an email to a name, to an address. So I can like ensure that you use your password, you bought your thing and you're shipping it to the correct.
00:21:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:55
Curt
So no one's scam. Like I can filter out scammers easier.
00:21:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:57
Curt
I can filter out just a bunch of stuff that, yeah, it's going to be a little nicer. So, and it's all, it's all available. I had to upgrade my package anyways, because I have enough emails going out that I've kind of blown through the certain tier limits.
00:22:08
Curt
So it just, it's all included. So i may as well make use of it. So,
00:22:10
jamie peacock
I
00:22:12
Curt
Yeah, totally. So, yeah, that'll be fun.
00:22:15
jamie peacock
um
00:22:16
Curt
But see. What's... a Right on.
00:22:17
jamie peacock
have a quick one that I want to cover that it's going to be just the tip laser cutting package
00:22:22
Curt
Okay. Mmm.
00:22:23
jamie peacock
So that's the week I do a canned episode next week because next week's episode is the Dylan episode.
00:22:23
Curt
Ooh, yay.
00:22:27
Curt
e
00:22:30
jamie peacock
So we're going can the episode and I think we're going to talk about laser cutting packaging and laser cutters because i yeah I think it would be a very interesting topic because you and I both use our lasers for that.
00:22:30
Curt
o yay
00:22:42
jamie peacock
And yeah, I think, yeah, look out for that one in two or three weeks time when I'm on holiday and we need canned episodes.
00:22:43
Curt
Oh yeah. What?
00:22:49
Curt
Yeah. We're crack heads.
00:22:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:50
Curt
Talk about how much they like crack. Yeah.
00:22:52
jamie peacock
There we go. Exactly. But yeah, I think we'll leave that one alone because i was making packaging this week. So, and then Joshua was asking about it. So I figured, hang on. That's a good canned episode topic because yeah I would do it differently if I was buying a laser now than the way I did it.
00:23:04
Curt
yeah
00:23:08
Curt
i have
00:23:09
jamie peacock
So, yeah.
00:23:09
Curt
I have the same have the same feelings and i'm I'm going down the same road right now. So yeah, that'll be a good one
00:23:14
jamie peacock
Okay. Yes, that'll be a very good... yeah I'm looking forward to that chat next week. Okay, cool. So, yeah, turns out Spinderella is awesome. I don't know if i told you this.
00:23:24
Curt
one. You've been exclaiming about it, but why is it awesome?
00:23:27
jamie peacock
Yes. Dude, I was having tool wear and that is it. I was chasing tool wear. Not chasing the machine shifting and ship moving.
00:23:34
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:23:37
jamie peacock
wear. Like I could literally track it across the pot.
00:23:39
Curt
Nice. Cool. Cool.
00:23:40
jamie peacock
And like all the tolerances are super generous because i designed the pot. So it doesn't need to have any type tolerances. But I could watch the the insert wear over the pots. Whereas that hasn't really been a thing. that wasn't a thing on Bertha.
00:23:53
jamie peacock
Like there's always a bit of slop in the system in Bertha. And yeah, I did a bunch of K110 and did that 303. Yeah, it it's full of magic. And then yeah, with the three-jail chuck that actually holds things, it's kind of cool.
00:24:04
jamie peacock
I did have to laser cut a little disc to go in its bum because it was shooting coolant right through with the U-Drill when I was pouring the things.
00:24:11
Curt
Okay, okay, yeah.
00:24:12
jamie peacock
I also bought an 11-millimeter U-Drill.
00:24:16
Curt
Okay, that's yeah that's beefy.
00:24:17
jamie peacock
So yeah, that's 433 thou.
00:24:21
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:24:21
jamie peacock
It's fricking tiny. Yeah. I didn't, I, you can actually get them 10 millimeter as well, but i was like, no, let me get the most rigid one I can get.
00:24:26
Curt
look at you
00:24:28
jamie peacock
Um, yeah.
00:24:29
Curt
ah like I like how you say tiny and I say beefy. Anyway, carry on.
00:24:33
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, no, I've got a, I've got a U-drill five times diameter, 24.5 millimeter. Like it's just shavin' edge.
00:24:42
Curt
Well, it's not a competition of who has who has the biggest U drill.
00:24:47
jamie peacock
I also have the smallest U-drill. Um,
00:24:49
Curt
Oh, okay. Now we're talking.
00:24:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, I know. So I bought, I bought that Udrill and wasn't that expensive. was like, I think about two, say hang on, maths aside about $120 or so for the Udrill because it's a 20 mil shank. I don't have any 20 mils. So I had to buy a 25 reducer and then I bought a box of inserts. Yeah. Came in at around, around just over 2000 Rand for the Udrill.
00:25:12
jamie peacock
So much better. I was drilling, then using a carbide boring bar. Now it's one tool, push hole, bore, done.
00:25:20
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:25:21
jamie peacock
And yeah, Spinderella really, and recycle ourcycle power, you are well within a thou.
00:25:30
Curt
Oh, cool. That's good.
00:25:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, it repeats super well.
00:25:32
Curt
That's good. that's
00:25:32
jamie peacock
Got the got the tool post mounted as well with its fancy riser that I anodized green as well because could.
00:25:39
Curt
Nice.
00:25:40
jamie peacock
It also has a chip compare.
00:25:40
Curt
It's funny how... in your stories, how similar Spinderella looks to Bertha? Like, as I'm watching your stories, I'm like, oh, that's cool.
00:25:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:49
Curt
It's like, because you always kind of film from the same angle. And it's just like, they look, and the the door on it is similar.
00:25:52
jamie peacock
yet
00:25:54
Curt
And like, everything looks similar. It's kind of cool. It's more compact, but it definitely looks similar.
00:25:57
jamie peacock
yeah yeah way more like my shop is it's just as full as it was but it's a different arrangement so like now i was assembling the anchor points and i've got to walk from where i assemble anchor points to the opposite side of the workshop where the press is to press the pins in and do the assembly and there used to be a birther in the way now that's a straight walk because of the way i've rearranged the workshop which is just like, it's a small thing, but it makes a huge difference.
00:26:21
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:26:24
jamie peacock
You're not like zigzagging. um But yeah, ive mean I've been acquiring lots of bits and pieces. I need to do hard turning again. Yay.
00:26:32
Curt
Oh, fun.
00:26:33
jamie peacock
Yeah. ah Yeah, literally today, i finally finished up the Dutchman Squeezebox buttons.
00:26:41
Curt
OK.
00:26:41
jamie peacock
Because I ordered 8mm, I had 8mm aluminium, I ordered additional, and the ones I have are 8.05, and the ones ordered are 7.95. So the 7.95s feed beautifully, automatically. The 8.1s so the seven point non five feed beautiful dramatic aund ones do not so i changed the program then when it does bar push it pauses before unpause it moves back with the air and then grab the applies and pull the part forward had to do that for like 120 parts and then i dropped 998 parts into the good way today by accident uh they were the door and i opened the door was like was on the phone with my one customer and he's like you seem to be having a really good day i'm you have no idea and then yeah
00:27:10
Curt
ah
00:27:17
Curt
How did you do that? Oh. ah
00:27:27
jamie peacock
got called to pick them up for me and ended up losing about 10 of them into the machine. So I am done now with those things.
00:27:32
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:27:33
jamie peacock
I have 1,040-something. I need to make the flippy-flippy fixture. And there yeah, that's for the end of the week, that problem. And then we set up the Choppermatic today and processed 15 cages of wire. And my brother-in-law came... but My mother-in-law had a pot plant addiction.
00:27:49
jamie peacock
she Her friend's moving house. But my mother-in-law cannot abide leaving a pot. Even just an empty pot with sand in it. Cannot leave it at her friend's house. So Danica and her took my truck, went and fetched stuff, then needed help loading.
00:28:02
jamie peacock
Phoned my brother-in-law, because they knew if they phoned me, I would swear at
Innovative Fidget Mechanisms
00:28:05
jamie peacock
them. My brother-in-law drove through, like, a good 30 kilometers to help load pot plants. And then they they were there, so I went and had lunch with them.
00:28:13
jamie peacock
Left the choppermatic running. and went and checked on it a few times and as they're getting ready to leave i go back to the workshop to check if it's still chopping i can hear it chopping the bucket broke and dumped 10 kilos of pins onto the floor
00:28:25
Curt
ah but Nice.
00:28:30
jamie peacock
yeah it was one of those days i actually gotta to go pick them up i need to find a magnet to put in a plastic bag and then just magnet them up at least it's uh think 420 stainless so it's uh magnetic
00:28:33
Curt
Just...
00:28:41
Curt
Okay. And just to be clear, that's like potted plants? Or are we talking like weed plants?
00:28:46
jamie peacock
Yes. No, no. No, no, I'm talking about empty pot plant, like pot plant pots.
00:28:49
Curt
oh Okay. but Okay, fair enough.
00:28:52
jamie peacock
The one we had to move was just full the sand.
00:28:53
jamie peacock
There was fuck all limits.
00:28:54
Curt
I figured.
00:28:54
Curt
Okay.
00:28:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, no. is
00:28:57
Curt
yeah
00:28:58
jamie peacock
That lady, she has way too many pot plants and then freaking move them.
00:28:58
Curt
yeah
00:29:02
jamie peacock
So, yeah, no, no.
00:29:03
Curt
Yeah, that's awesome.
00:29:04
jamie peacock
It's not actual pot plants. That I'd be fine with. But yeah, potted plants, they suck. Fucking yeah, she has way, way too many of them.
00:29:10
Curt
Yeah, now we got, yeah. Plants are good. Plants are good. My house is full of them. They're good for you. man
00:29:15
jamie peacock
My garden's full of them.
00:29:17
Curt
Yeah, let's shoot where they...
00:29:17
jamie peacock
Everything is green as hell now, bro. It's been raining like hard. So everything is green as fuck right now.
00:29:22
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:29:23
jamie peacock
Now, like this place gets like brown in winter and then come summer, like it stormed this afternoon.
00:29:24
Curt
That's nice.
00:29:29
jamie peacock
It's now clear skies again. It'll probably storm at like 2 a.m. like last night. I only got in, I was in the workshop till just after 11. And then I got in bed and there was a storm and then I just couldn't fall asleep.
00:29:41
jamie peacock
Because now a storm and the doggo being a potato. Yeah, it was a little bit annoying.
00:29:48
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:29:49
jamie peacock
um Yeah, so wave springs, Kurt, wave springs.
00:29:51
Curt
Cool. Well,
00:29:54
Curt
yes. So I was looking for i this stupid mech. I've designed it. Like a said it a few times. It pinches, but it pinches on two things. It pinches on an OD and an ID. Think of an Oreo sandwich with a bolt through it.
00:30:05
Curt
um i want I want to pinch the Oreo just tight enough so everything slides, but I'm also pinching internal features that I have to pinch very hard. So I was... I did it dumbly, but just trying to make the tolerances perfect, which works. It's just ha like heinous to ah assemble because if if something is off by a thou, it's too sloppy. Or if it's a thou the other way, it just locks up.
00:30:29
Curt
So it's like, this is dumb. so I'm like you know I'm gonna do? I'm gonna put a wave spring. But trying to find a wave spring that is only seven millimeters in diameter and like, you know, a fraction of a millimeter thick. proved to be a little difficult so anyways i finally found one it's thicker than i wanted um i was eventually going to be like you know what i'm going my own die set i'm going punch them on like titanium and then fold them so i can make whatever i can get chimp stock and whatever thickness i'm like this is dumb let's make sure like let's see if this works first and then if i have to do that i can but i don't want to build all that to just realize it's not going to work anyways but anyways found them um i think they're goingnna work i can they're thicker than i want they're 0.4 millimeters i'd i'd rather than be 0.2 millimeters thick but
00:31:07
jamie peacock
Really could.
00:31:09
Curt
Well, the compression force is like enormous still at like, to like, cause I, I, your, your finger tightening them and I only want to squish maybe 10 thou at the most.
00:31:13
jamie peacock
Oh, okay.
00:31:18
Curt
Um, and I'm sure I could find some online if I looked at it. Yeah. Um, I mean, I did look online, but. So anyways, these will work. I can compress them up to five thou, which is ample for my needs right now.
00:31:31
Curt
And they're cheap and I can get them like instantaneously. So I have a pack sitting here and I'm going to try machining them. I'm machining this whole damn thing out of titanium. Now I'm done with trying to print the parts because the accuracy is just not quite there.
00:31:43
Curt
And the when it wears, it wears funny and you get kind of a powder buildup from the resin and it's kind of jamming up the works.
00:31:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
00:31:49
Curt
And I have a couple beta
Material Challenges and Costs
00:31:51
Curt
units out there. And one one guy, I don't know if he listens to the podcast. If he do, thank you um he uses the crap out of it like he's beat all my testing rigs um and like i incessantly test these and he's like rocketed past me for use um and he's encountering all kinds of little weird issues that i would rather not have in the final version so i think i'm just going to make it all a titanium which is gonna make it more costly but it'll also make it last forever so i see you're linking me stuff on the podcast googling on
00:32:17
jamie peacock
look at that link quickly
00:32:25
Curt
Uh, yeah. Yeah, this would probably work.
00:32:27
jamie peacock
that is another option yeah another option um uh yeah but yeah these guys um yeah their stuff's really nice just freaking spendy and the shipping's brutal they're in the uk
00:32:29
Curt
Yeah, this would probably work. Yeah, it's about about the same thickness, but yeah.
00:32:44
Curt
Oh, that's still cheap in my in my land, but...
00:32:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, fair enough.
00:32:48
Curt
Sick. Okay, cool. Yeah, thank you. I'll look into them for sure.
00:32:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, no worries. Yeah, that's under the Springwatch. Dude, I warn you about their website. Tread lightly. They have all the things.
00:32:58
Curt
Well, I also... I also... I try to, like, limit the countries that I'm sourcing from just to deal with the stupid, like, CUSMA requirements of, like...
00:33:04
jamie peacock
Sure. Yeah.
00:33:07
Curt
So I try to get everything Canadian, which proved to be not workable.
00:33:09
jamie peacock
Yeah, but I mean, you could always make a die set.
00:33:13
Curt
ah you know Honestly, if this works, I will. I will make, like, a hardened steel punch and die set and crank them all out of titanium because I could make a thousand in a day and that would that was fill my need.
00:33:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. I'm upset. Why not? Yeah. Well, well, I have an eccentric press, skirt
00:33:25
Curt
Actually...
00:33:29
Curt
that is as would be perfect for this ti ti tic tick ti ti tick ti tik ti
00:33:32
jamie peacock
Kurt. Well, mine only single strokes, but anyway. chk catun aun
00:33:38
Curt
yeah i'll be like one of those videos you watch on youtube where like in some third world country and they're punching all like oil filters or something that's that'll be no or shoes yeah i can't show our shoes yeah and i need a dirt floor but it's amazing what people can produce with you know push comes to shove and
00:33:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, then you're not allowed to wear pants. You have to wear like a white dress thing. Yeah, or shoes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is quite impressive. Okay, that's interesting. so yeah, you're basically adding in a wave spring to tension it without having to have a super tight tolerance.
00:34:04
Curt
Exactly. Yeah. make my life a lot easier. So I think it'll work. um And if it doesn't, then whatever.
00:34:07
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:34:10
Curt
I don't know. I'll...
00:34:11
jamie peacock
Are you... sorry, you're going to move away from the printing of them? you're going to go to Delrin and Tartanium?
00:34:17
Curt
Yeah, I think I'll do. um like I was going to set up i was goingnna buy a chunk of Delrin and start machining it. And i was like, for the amount of work it's going to take me to like set up all the tool paths to get them how I want, I'm like, I'm just going to go titanium first because more people seem to be interested in an expensive version out of titanium.
00:34:30
jamie peacock
In the Tartanium, yeah.
00:34:31
Curt
So I was like, okay, I thought you guys want a cheap version. But everyone's like, I want a metal version.
00:34:34
jamie peacock
Didn't you buy Altum for this?
00:34:37
Curt
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I have the Ultim cores, which honestly, I'm probably going to switch to like bronze or something to add more mass.
00:34:38
jamie peacock
Ah, okay.
00:34:43
Curt
So now I have a bunch of rather expensive Ultim, but such is life.
00:34:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, okay.
00:34:47
Curt
Yeah, this this project has cost a lot of money so far, but it it will see the light of day.
00:34:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's how it goes.
00:34:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:34:54
Curt
um And if it doesn't, I'm just going to skip it across the water. And yeah, we'll never talk about it again.
00:34:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:34:59
Curt
But I've sunk enough money into it now that it's I got to make something work out of it.
00:35:02
jamie peacock
You kind of have to, yeah, have to do something with it.
00:35:04
Curt
Yeah, or or just make, if it's not going to work and I just can't make it happen in the way I want it to, I'll make like 10 of them and I'll just give them away on like YouTube videos or something like that and generate my income that way by like more people and eyeballs and whatnot, so.
00:35:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. Speaking of speaking of YouTube, how's your influencer life going?
00:35:26
Curt
uh influencer life that scanner it's a lot of fun um i have now paid for that scanner in time trying to get it to do what i wanted to do um which is fine i kind of assumed i would and i i wanted to go down this road as a as a hobby i have no real business need for it but uh
00:35:27
jamie peacock
With your scanner?
00:35:42
Curt
Yeah, it's a pain. um And I don't think it's going to work for my needs. But it's cool to have. And ah yeah, like I said, I have a few more weeks to shoot that video.
00:35:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:54
Curt
So it's it's going to happen. I basically reached out to them and like, hey, remember how I said I was going to use it for this? It's not going to work for that. And I warned you guys that I'm like, I think it's pushing it.
00:36:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:03
Curt
And they're like, yeah, no sweat. Like, do what you can do. was like, yeah, okay. So they're all right with it. But anyway, yeah.
00:36:07
jamie peacock
Okay. Well, that's not too bad then.
00:36:11
Curt
Yeah, it's it honestly for the for what's available for tech nowadays for that kind of in that price range of the sub $10,000 price range for like laser scanning quite impressive.
00:36:19
jamie peacock
Not, yeah.
00:36:20
Curt
Like, yeah, it's it blows
Community and Content Updates
00:36:23
Curt
my mind. What's how like how good it is. So it's pretty cool.
00:36:25
jamie peacock
year well you know what else is really good
00:36:28
Curt
All right. How about you? Yeah, what's what's up?
00:36:32
jamie peacock
our patreons are really good we have a fancy patreon that makes the wheels on the bus go round and round apparently i'm a train chew shoott
00:36:34
Curt
Oh, segue.
00:36:39
jamie peacock
um Yeah, our Patreons make the wheels on the podcast go round and round and make us not sleep on the street once we kidnap Kurt for IMTS.
00:36:49
Curt
Good luck.
00:36:49
jamie peacock
Big thank you to our top Patreons, Jade from Benchmark20, Luke from Fabtastic, AJ from Subtract Manufacturing and 24 other companies, Jason S, the Aussie Machinist, and Christian Olson.
00:37:02
jamie peacock
Thank you all. They are on the top tier. All the paid Patreons get access to the After Show, where Kurt and I today have got some stuff to discuss regarding the Retroid and the Retroid G2.
00:37:11
Curt
Ooh. o
00:37:14
jamie peacock
um Yes.
00:37:16
Curt
Nerdcast.
00:37:16
jamie peacock
So we've got some After Show stuff, kind of nerdy After Show stuff today, but it's always entertaining.
00:37:16
Curt
Nice.
00:37:21
Curt
necast nice
00:37:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's going to be a proper nerd cast.
00:37:22
Curt
and
00:37:24
jamie peacock
Also, we'll probably discuss books in After Show because I'm reading books again, or listening to books again. But yeah, thank you to the Patreons. After show for them, and then also on the website, there's some bonus content and other bits and bobs. Also, all the shirts, like this one, are All shirts are available until next week?
00:37:46
jamie peacock
Because some smart dick doesn't know it time works.
00:37:47
Curt
Right.
00:37:48
jamie peacock
Yes. Anyway, back back to the podcast.
00:37:53
jamie peacock
um Yeah, so, Fusion crushed the LK today.
00:37:54
Curt
Back to the podcast.
00:37:58
Curt
Yes, that looked sad. okay oh okay.
00:38:02
jamie peacock
It was. Thank goodness for Siemens being full of magic, because that was at 50% Rapids. And it stopped without damaging anything. Now, obviously it damaged the fixture, but like tool holder is still fine, spindle's fine.
00:38:11
Curt
Oh, really? Really?
00:38:15
jamie peacock
Tool disappeared. um
00:38:17
Curt
Did it did it overload or?
00:38:20
jamie peacock
ah No, i had so I had reset before it overloaded.
00:38:22
Curt
Oh, OK. OK, you hit it.
00:38:23
jamie peacock
I think I might have overloaded, but then I had reset, so I would have cleared the alarm.
00:38:24
Curt
OK.
00:38:27
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:38:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, but... less than ideal situation so i was machining the second side of the heatsink which was programmed by toolpath for the most part trying to think what i tweaked one or two things but yeah for the most part programmed from toolpath um i needed to add a flat toolpath to it so i'd run in like 50 minutes of cycle time already posted out the just the flat toolpath to the tops and the chamfers
00:38:40
Curt
Oh.
00:38:59
jamie peacock
Posted, went the machine, loaded the code, hit go, was standing there as it came down and fucking stir welded it in the wrong place. Like not even where it should have been according to the G code on the computer.
00:39:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:13
jamie peacock
So I had a look, I'm what the hell is going on? Why is it trying to go to G0 or Z0? Everything is at Z26-ish, somewhere around there. So I look at the code, I go back into the office, I'm like, it should have run a different tool if I hadn't reposted the code.
00:39:29
jamie peacock
Like it shouldn't have fucking crashed.
Machining Techniques and Improvements
00:39:31
jamie peacock
Reposted the code, walked to the machine, check that it was still at like z1, reloaded the code into the machine, like just went to the NAS, said execute, and it pulls up the code at the correct plane.
00:39:45
jamie peacock
So I don't know what the fuck happened in fusion. It just shut the fucking bed and was machining in the wrong place. So now I have trust issues with fusion.
00:39:56
Curt
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt, yeah.
00:39:57
jamie peacock
But the workflow was a bit retarded because ah couldn't get Toolparts refused to acknowledge my file if I had my fixture.
00:40:08
jamie peacock
So what I did is I sent the file up and then ah pulled the pull down the toolparts and I put that that file into my assembly and then just pulled the toolparts across.
00:40:19
jamie peacock
So I don't know if it was somewhere there that it caused but it was a little bit little bit peculiar and very concerning, but that's something I'll keep an on now.
00:40:22
Curt
hmm yeah
00:40:27
jamie peacock
But I ran one of those heat sinks. I machined my fixture a millimeter lower. Took off the stir welding marks. um But yeah, I ordered 12 feet of gasket from Cape Town. And then I ordered 20 meters or 30 meters from China now.
00:40:44
jamie peacock
That I have more gasket than I ever need.
00:40:45
Curt
okay
00:40:46
jamie peacock
Because, yeah, vacuum work holding is freaking magic. Like with a decent vacuum pump, I've got the part is...
00:40:53
Curt
OK,
00:40:56
jamie peacock
it's 90 millimeters by 280 so it's not not giant uh it's fair size so like just on four inches by uh by about 11 inches
00:41:00
Curt
yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
00:41:06
Curt
yeah, yeah.
00:41:09
jamie peacock
So a decent amount of surface area. Vacuumed that down to the vacuum to the big vacuum chuck. Probed it. Machine up one. It's on a six millimeter plate. so And the part's only three and a half mils thick. So machine it on the one side. Then it drops onto a fixture that locates it with a pin and another feature. So it's fully constrained.
00:41:27
jamie peacock
And then the vacuum just sucks it down.
00:41:30
Curt
Nice. Yeah.
00:41:31
jamie peacock
and but my uh my o-ring cord is a little bit shot so i was getting a little bit of uh cooling coming through after i stir welded the o-ring um but yeah he holds it flat as hell and then you know machine all the stuff i think the part's like not even a millimeter thick in some spots yeah so it works really really well you gotta to give a little bit of thought because like well the
00:41:40
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:41:49
Curt
Interesting. Interesting.
00:41:55
jamie peacock
fixture I made was out of a piece of material I had, which was a little bit smaller than I would have wanted, but it's the material I had, so I made it work.
00:41:59
Curt
Right.
00:42:01
jamie peacock
And yeah, it's it really works well. There's also quite a lot of surface area on OPT2 to hold it down with.
00:42:10
Curt
um might have I might have to bend your ear on it because, yeah, i have but for these for those mechanisms, um I think I'm going plate.
00:42:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:42:16
Curt
just the It's not the most inexpensive way, but it's the easiest material way.
00:42:17
jamie peacock
So the other
00:42:21
jamie peacock
So the other sneaky thing you can do is vacuum down a plate, machine halfway through all your parts, put some threaded holes that no one's ever going to see, and then knife-make a method that plate down and machine the rest away in OPT 2.
00:42:34
Curt
Totally. Yeah, that's very likely what I would do, but...
00:42:35
jamie peacock
that's Yeah, that that is a very, very sneaky workflow that works super, super well.
00:42:37
Curt
Yeah. ah
00:42:43
jamie peacock
Especially when you have a zero-pointed.
00:42:43
Curt
Well, like, I'll...
00:42:45
Curt
absolutely and i mean what i was mainly thinking for this is is to bulk out the rough because i can the design i designed it in a way where i can have mechanical fastening that i can machine away like the final op so i just need it for like the first the first little bit just to punch holes and countersinks to get like the fixturing and then i don't need vacuum but i yeah that's actually a pretty small plate that you were sucking down so i should i should look into that yeah
00:42:56
jamie peacock
Yes. Oh, okay.
00:43:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:43:07
jamie peacock
Yeah. Oh, dude. It's... Yeah. um What did I suck down the other day? Yeah, the amount of force you get, is it actually gets really silly really quickly.
00:43:18
Curt
No, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:19
jamie peacock
And, I mean, I'm running a vacuum pump that cost me less than $100. Yeah. from Harbor Freight to ETA place and then just put a coolant trap.
00:43:25
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:43:28
jamie peacock
I actually need to re-plumb mine so that I can bypass the coolant trap and then seal it off and drain in it while the thing's still holding a vacuum.
00:43:37
Curt
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, because right now I can't, but that's fine. That's something I can deal with.
00:43:43
Curt
I know my old day job, we had a, we had a decently expensive vacuum pump for doing vacuum bagging of like big composite panels. So it was like a five by 10 foot bed, but we had like whatever, like 50 gallons of air tanks.
00:43:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:43:56
Curt
And then we would just vacuum them all down.
00:43:56
jamie peacock
okay
00:43:58
Curt
So then you could drop the bag on it. And then like, as soon as you crank vacuum, it'd like, boom. And like, you could pull full vac.
00:44:02
jamie peacock
yeah yeah yeah dude my my vacuum chuck i can't remember if it's a small one or the big one but literally has more hold on force than the weight of my machine
00:44:03
Curt
Like it was pretty cool. We always thought we was told like anybody that was bad, we're going throw them in the vacuum bed and just squish them down. Cause we're like, You work on the math, you're like, hey, like whatever, 20 inches, 30 inches of mercury. You're like, that's a lot of freaking pressure. Like that would be very uncomfortable.
00:44:25
jamie peacock
you could lift the machine by it easily.
00:44:26
Curt
Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:27
jamie peacock
Like it gets silly very, very quickly. Like especially when your plates get bigger. Like even now the Tufnel stuff, that's the full travel of my machine. I think the the biggest plate is 350 by 700.
00:44:37
Curt
Right.
00:44:40
jamie peacock
Like that's a shitload of area.
00:44:40
Curt
Yeah, you'll never move that. Yeah.
00:44:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, that's a hell of a lot of area.
00:44:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:44
jamie peacock
So don't I like the vacuum chuck.
00:44:45
Curt
Yeah, if you get good vacuum, yeah.
00:44:47
jamie peacock
Yeah. And I mean, I'm pulling, well, I dropped my gauge, it's not exactly accurate. I normally get about 26 inches of mercury on my setup.
00:44:55
Curt
Oh, yeah, you're almost near maximum anyways, so that's yeah that's a lot of power.
00:44:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, now and now I get above maximum because the gauge shifted.
00:45:01
Curt
this is this this is
00:45:02
jamie peacock
But the gauge is more just there so that I can see if there's a problem.
00:45:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:06
jamie peacock
Oh, shit, we're losing vacuum. That's what it's there for.
00:45:08
Curt
Right.
00:45:09
jamie peacock
um
00:45:09
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:45:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, my system is so cobbled together, it's freaking hilarious. Like, there's 15 connectors in the thing because I was using all the offcuts of tube that I had to rig it up.
00:45:14
Curt
Weird.
00:45:20
Curt
Nice. place
00:45:21
jamie peacock
yeah like now tomorrow morning i'm gonna get uh well i'll go drill the holes tonight and then tomorrow morning i need to get that in need to finish cleaning monica i'm gonna throw five liters of degreaser into a 20 liter bucket throw another five liters of water and then suck that through into monica to try and clean the pipes and then clean out monica as well and then just pump it down the drain because we live in africa and i don't really care uh it's degreaser it'll be fine
00:45:47
Curt
Clean your pipes.
00:45:47
jamie peacock
But I need Monica clean because I need to suck LK out before i start the Tuffnall.
00:45:53
Curt
Right.
00:45:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, I need...
00:45:54
Curt
Right, right, right.
00:45:54
jamie peacock
Oh, by the way, Monica's been renamed to Trump.
00:45:58
Curt
Oh, fair enough. Yeah, sounds good.
00:45:59
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:46:00
Curt
Maybe it'll suck better now.
00:46:00
jamie peacock
Danica... Yeah, Danica never called that, that I would rename it and that would work. um
00:46:06
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:07
jamie peacock
But yeah, I've got... actually got longer filters for it. So I was using a... What was it? A 20-inch filter? got 40-inch filter. So hold more ship before I need take it out.
00:46:16
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:46:19
jamie peacock
And then I'm going to take them, either put them in the sewing machine or just like stitch them hand, the bottom. So because what happens is they are, it's a tube and then they squash, they seal the bottom like heat seal the bottom.
00:46:32
jamie peacock
So when it gets full, the bottom is bigger than the fricking tube.
00:46:32
Curt
Yep.
00:46:35
jamie peacock
So you can't get it out.
00:46:36
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:46:37
jamie peacock
So I want to fold it and crimp it closed or put a bolt through or something so that the bottom is always smaller than the top. So when you want to pull it out, you can.
00:46:45
Curt
Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:46:46
jamie peacock
that is infuriating.
00:46:46
Curt
Yeah, makes sense.
00:46:47
jamie peacock
But yeah, I'm pretty sure my coolant tank is more than 50% shavings at this point.
00:46:52
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:46:53
jamie peacock
Because Monik has been out of commission for a little while, so I haven't had a chance to to clean out the coolant tank because, yeah, laziness.
00:46:53
Curt
Okay, fair enough.
00:47:02
Curt
Yeah, no, fair enough. Fair enough.
00:47:03
jamie peacock
And yeah, then my coolant's going to be ruined as well. going to be great. Because I'm running tough.
00:47:07
Curt
Right, yeah. stop but ah
00:47:08
jamie peacock
Like, I'm very much considering just pumping it into a drum and doing, i need to do the good way as well, just pump it into a drum and replace it.
00:47:15
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:47:16
jamie peacock
because the good way is making a whole arm have a rationale. I've been wearing bitch mittens because if I don't, my hands just get ruined.
00:47:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:25
Curt
I know you're very, very Dave Precise with your orange gloves, so.
00:47:29
jamie peacock
Dude, I hate wearing bitch mittens. There is nothing worse. Have you tried turning an allen key with bitch mittens? The freaking things get wrapped around the allen key and then, yeah.
00:47:39
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:47:40
jamie peacock
It is infuriating. But I've been doing it because my hands have been, ah they're now coming right again.
00:47:47
Curt
I know I always do a ah do final assembly with nitrile gloves on, and it's I hate it so much with tiny parts.
00:47:50
jamie peacock
here dude anodizing oh yeah no no i dropped a bunch of two millimeters of ball bearings the other day because i could just couldn't hold the things uh for my ano setup i will put the blue nitriles on the part will come out of acetone go onto the thing that's done with a hook then gloves on washed as soon as it's wrapped and in the caustic edge gloves off
00:47:52
Curt
yeah I'm just like, I hate this. I hate this.
00:48:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:16
jamie peacock
And then I just handle it by the racking because I don't want those things. Yeah. I've had them. I used to wear gloves when I did anodizing. One day I got a hole in my thumb of the glove. Had my hand in the costume.
00:48:26
jamie peacock
I didn't realize, my okay, is this glove so slippery? Yeah. I carried on with my day.
00:48:29
Curt
this is
00:48:29
jamie peacock
Take it off there's freaking bunch of finger soap.
00:48:33
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, because that's all soap business.
00:48:36
Curt
Yeah, oh.
00:48:37
jamie peacock
Fats and freaking lye. Yeah.
00:48:39
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:48:40
jamie peacock
But yeah, i was very impressed with the Anno setup.
00:48:40
Curt
Yeah, Fight Club taught me that.
00:48:42
jamie peacock
okay um Yeah, I was very impressed with the Anno setup. It actually kept temperature really well. I put in two bags of ice to start.
00:48:50
Curt
good. That's awesome.
00:48:52
jamie peacock
I think I put in another two bags through the whole day to keep it at like 10 degrees. So i was running it nice and cold as well.
00:48:59
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:49:00
jamie peacock
Oh, man.
00:49:00
Curt
That's good.
00:49:01
jamie peacock
I guess I need to pay for that thing now. Calls, fades, converted.
00:49:04
Curt
yeah
00:49:05
jamie peacock
We're putting it through the business. Commissioner sending me pictures of parties running on Big Bertha.
00:49:10
Curt
Oh, nice. Good is getting used. That's good.
00:49:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah, no, he's programming shit by himself now. Like, yeah. I'm like, dude, if you get stuck, just phone me. And he doesn't phone me. I feel lonely.
00:49:20
Curt
ah
00:49:20
jamie peacock
He came past on Saturday because he didn't feel like working either. So he came past to visit me, said we could talk shit and didn't have to work.
00:49:27
Curt
Beautiful. Yeah.
00:49:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:49:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:28
jamie peacock
The problem is I meander around in the morning and then end up in the shop till 11 o'clock at night.
00:49:34
Curt
Yeah, well, that's such is life when you keep your work by your house.
00:49:34
jamie peacock
Less than ideal. But yeah, that is the thing.
00:49:38
Curt
yeah
00:49:40
jamie peacock
um
00:49:41
Curt
Yeah, so um I will say I will go ahead, shoot.
00:49:42
jamie peacock
yes oh okay cool
00:49:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, what's up with Tangaloy?
00:49:51
Curt
Tangaloy is a lovely company. I have been using their inserts for my lathe. I have no, like they don't cut me any deals other than just like a minor discount of whatever.
00:49:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, remember you you told me about them.
00:50:01
Curt
They're so nice. they like i They're a company that like they'll let me buy online, which every tool manufacturer, please let us do that.
00:50:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:50:08
Curt
That's all I want to do. I don't want to talk to people or distributors. I will pay you more. Just let me buy your shit online.
00:50:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:50:14
Curt
It's why people use McMaster. Like, I don't care. I'm paying more. I just, I don't have to talk to a person and it comes to my door. Anyways, Tungaloy, I could buy this shit online.
00:50:18
jamie peacock
Yeah. They're actually paying attention.
00:50:20
Curt
Their tooling for lathes is fantastic, especially in titanium, especially on low power machines. I've turned on a few people to them. And the cool thing is I'm not a huge customer. I've spent all of maybe $300 with Tungaloy, like over last year or so.
00:50:34
Curt
And they not only remembered me, they remembered that I referred few a few other people to them. And they said, hey, thanks, Kurt, for referring blank, blank, blank to us. Like, we appreciate it. I'm like, that is cool.
00:50:45
Curt
You're a cool company. And us they're like, we noticed...
00:50:47
jamie peacock
they actually paying attention
00:50:49
Curt
Yeah. They're like, we noticed you try to set up a, like a web store account. They're like, um is there something we can help you with? I'm like, Oh, I'm just trying to not bug you guys by just ordering online. They're like, well, they're like, we'll have to set, send you like a terms of credit.
00:50:59
Curt
They're like, do you want us just to bill you on a credit card and send you the product? I'm like, please do like, that's fine. Like, sweet. It's on the way.
00:51:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's...
00:51:04
Curt
I'm like, Thank you for being awesome.
00:51:05
jamie peacock
Nika, nice!
00:51:06
Curt
So yeah, like, and they reach, they watch my stories and they've reached out to me, be like, Hey, we have this tool.
00:51:06
jamie peacock
Yeah. Nice.
00:51:12
Curt
This might help you when I was doing all the torque screw stuff. They like recommended some tooling to me. Like I am a small fish and they're treating me like a huge company. I will use Tungaloy as long as I possibly can. Cause they're good people and they, they don't treat you like a dick.
00:51:27
Curt
Like anyways, that's my, that's my rant on them. So yeah, it's just, it's so yeah.
00:51:30
jamie peacock
No, it's always nice when you've got customers like that. Or suppliers, sorry, suppliers like that.
00:51:36
jamie peacock
Or even, know,
00:51:36
Curt
Yeah, when suppliers realize that small companies become big companies and like, it's just like.
00:51:40
jamie peacock
Well, Midway Tools, like they started out supplying hobbyists and now supplying whole bunch of the industry. um
00:51:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:47
jamie peacock
i ordered, I mean, we ordered from them today. Carl ordered a bunch of odds and ends, a drill chuck and a live center and a bunch of tools and things. And we sent the quote, so we sent the RFQ, I got a quote back an hour later and an hour after that it was shipped.
00:52:02
jamie peacock
Like, their service is amazing.
00:52:02
Curt
Right. Yeah, yeah.
00:52:04
jamie peacock
And I mean, we we had a bit of a snafu and we went there. um they gave us the wrong they invoiced the correct one but gave us the wrong tool holders for for carl's machine so his is a ap they gave us a a or a p and uh tool holder so i'm missing okay uh we got the wrong ones here i'll send them back in the morning can you send replacements so i couriered them back to the middle of a hundred bucks i'm like there you go i have them back and they sent me new ones like their services is top-notch
00:52:35
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:52:36
jamie peacock
like I like dealing with them. I actually need to order NMLS because I've now smashed through two in the last week, which is mildly less than ideal.
00:52:44
Curt
Yeah, it's so cool finding a company that realizes that their wealth is based on customers.
00:52:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:49
Curt
like
00:52:49
jamie peacock
Well, that's the thing. You talk fondly of them, and that goes a long way. Yeah.
00:52:53
Curt
Absolutely. and like And I will continue to do that because they're nice. They're just nice. like That's all you have to be. I don't even need a good deal. I didn't even ask for a deal. And just by being nice, he's like, hey, I can cut you a little bit better deal on those inserts.
00:53:04
Curt
was like, that's cool. I appreciate it.
00:53:06
jamie peacock
Awesome, yeah.
00:53:06
Curt
like It's just like, I don't know.
00:53:09
jamie peacock
Yeah, I need to actually address um mean to arrest people tomorrow.
00:53:10
Curt
I will. Yeah.
00:53:13
jamie peacock
It is, sort well, today. It's now the second when this podcast comes out, and customers have not paid, so I'm going to go light fires in their buildings.
00:53:19
Curt
Right.
00:53:22
Curt
Ooh. Yeah.
00:53:24
jamie peacock
um Yeah, there's two customers haven't paid yet, which is a bit annoying. Maybe I'll wake up in the morning there'll in my account. um But yeah, I've got a quote for more hydraulic holders.
00:53:35
Curt
Ooh. You like them?
00:53:38
jamie peacock
uh yeah just am not that rich um so the the shunk 20 millimeter hydraulic with the five reducer sleeves is uh sorry that's my idea like 500 ish dollars and the shunk tento silver for the six millimeter animals is 250 dollars it will take a bit i'm like
00:53:54
Curt
Okay.
00:54:03
Curt
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
00:54:04
jamie peacock
I can buy both of them for the price of just that kit because the kit's like 30% off currently till tomorrow, well, till today. um So yeah, I have until this podcast comes out to decide whether I want to spend money or have money in my bank account for year end.
00:54:19
jamie peacock
They're also the Blazer agent and I'm trying to get me to switch to M600 or something from them.
00:54:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:24
jamie peacock
I'm like, eh, I kind of like my Flexi Lube.
00:54:28
Curt
Yeah, if it's working for you, you
00:54:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's working for me. It's just I've got a bit of contamination in the good way. And the LK is probably due for a change just because of the tufnel. Like the tufnel is fucking that coolant up something silly.
00:54:39
Curt
know. Right, right, right, yeah.
00:54:42
jamie peacock
But now this song this time around, I don't have any corn cobs. I'm running full normal end mills so that I can sc scrape all the shavings out the back. Because when you run the corn cob, it just blocks everything up.
00:54:55
jamie peacock
Whereas the proper end mills don't.
00:54:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:57
jamie peacock
So I bought three flutes, aluminium end mills for it. So we'll see how they ah they go.
00:55:01
Curt
Oh, nice. Okay.
00:55:04
jamie peacock
it's not exactly like I go slowly while machining it.
00:55:09
Curt
Cool, man.
00:55:09
jamie peacock
tell
00:55:10
Curt
Well, I did, and I thought it would be a very interesting video, and i clicked it, and I was like, it's a link to me.
00:55:10
jamie peacock
ah Did you see the link to the very interesting video, Kurt?
00:55:16
Curt
Now I feel seen.
00:55:17
jamie peacock
yes yeah i know it popped up in my feed so i was watching it as well yeah why wait what network am on interesting that should not become why is that on i'm trying to out why my mother-in-law's tv's on the wrong network because i have control of it on my phone right now and i like sitting and pausing her youtube videos just to mess her she thinks that and then i get a phone call wasn't it broken it's like it's not broken it's me
00:55:17
Curt
So...
00:55:23
Curt
Oh, creepy. Yeah.
00:55:32
Curt
Networking on the podcast. m m
00:55:40
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:46
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's just me being a savage. So what is in your Google box, Kurt?
00:55:46
Curt
It is I, Jamie.
00:55:50
Curt
Cool. Cool.
00:55:53
Curt
I say, let's... ah As it's getting near Christmas, I'm going to probably have more and more wildly weird, nerdy things. So if you're listening to this and you need Christmas ideas for yourself to send to a significant other, because that's probably...
00:56:07
Curt
I don't know. it's like That's my biggest issue is trying to find shit that I haven't bought for myself that someone else can buy for me. like so Anyways, I'll have of lots of those weird ones today.
00:56:13
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:56:15
Curt
so um First thing is the Suno Music Generation, S-U-N-O. I think ah ah Jacob turned me on to that from Taps and Patients.
00:56:25
jamie peacock
I lost.
00:56:26
Curt
I think he's flipped me on to it. um Anyways, it's I've been trying to generate us some intro music. So I did some like 8-bit retro synth stuff and I tried to use a robot voice with it and it sounded terrifying. So then I just went some plain music. Some of them I'm ah actually pretty happy with. Anyways, I've been pissing around with that.
00:56:43
Curt
ah Solo miners, like Bitcoin solo miners. I've always wanted one of those. It's just, it's basically a lottery ticket. um So the chances of you like mining, have you seen those?
00:56:54
jamie peacock
I've seen the the Bitcoin lotto lotto boards where it just tries to mine a coin by itself.
00:56:54
Curt
They use like
00:57:00
Curt
Yeah, yeah you just you set up a mining pool for yourself. Your chances of like cracking a coin are still 1 in 100 million or something like that. but it uses like like I have an old Bitcoin mining rig. Actually, if you watch my old YouTube videos, you can see it in between my printers. It's like a big fan on the front.
00:57:15
Curt
um So I used to mine when it was profitable.
00:57:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:18
jamie peacock
Well, ah the guys behind where I used to work used to mine when it was profitable. um They even mined little bit till it wasn't profitable.
00:57:18
Curt
Sorry, what?
00:57:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:57:26
jamie peacock
What miner did you have?
00:57:28
Curt
It was an old Antminer S1, so it was like the first gen Antminer.
00:57:31
jamie peacock
They used to import and sell ant miners.
00:57:34
Curt
Yeah, and like they still make Antminers, but like mine is like measured in like, I think it was like mega hashes or maybe giga hashes, and now everything is in tera hashes.
00:57:40
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:43
Curt
So it's like, it doesn't even make sense to run it for heat because it's just, it can't even compare.
00:57:44
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:47
Curt
um Anyway, so BitAx is a company that makes a really cool little solo miner that actually runs at like
00:57:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:53
Curt
a few tera hashes. Um, and it uses like 10, 20 Watts. so you can just leave it run on your desktop and maybe one day you'll magically wake up and be a hundred thousand dollars richer.
00:57:57
jamie peacock
Oh, NOS. Yeah.
00:58:02
Curt
Um, so I kind of want one of those, um, book nooks. Have you ever seen like book nooks? And my wife has one. We have like a big library. i like them. I found a
Personal Interests and Consumer Goods
00:58:12
Curt
2049 one, like a cyberpunk one.
00:58:12
jamie peacock
I have seen them. NOS.
00:58:15
Curt
Um, I kind of want that.
00:58:16
jamie peacock
I'm assuming, yeah, again, Nerdforge has made a whole bunch, and yeah. Unfortunately, Danica watches Nerdforge videos on my YouTube.
00:58:21
Curt
I like them.
00:58:24
jamie peacock
She also watches climbing videos and carabiner reviews and sorts other shit on my YouTube.
00:58:27
Curt
oh
00:58:29
jamie peacock
So she contaminates it.
00:58:31
Curt
and then the last one is the uh nasa artemis watch uh which is a pretty freaking nerdy looking watch kind of want to buy one of those and machine a big titanium case for it it's like an esp32 watch with a big oa o l led it's yeah it's dorky but it looks cool anyways i'll be you what's in your what's in your nerd box or google box
00:58:38
jamie peacock
okay.
00:58:43
jamie peacock
Uh, okay.
00:58:51
jamie peacock
Well, Retroid G2 setup, been looking a little bit into that and benchmarking and whatnot of them because yeah we're going chat about that in the after show. dear g because I'm trying to track where the fuck my G2 is, Retroid didn't put my email address on the package.
00:59:00
Curt
Oh.
00:59:06
jamie peacock
So I had to phone DHL and give them my email address and whatnot so they could send me the customs clearance documents. So it should be here tomorrow, either tomorrow or Wednesday.
00:59:13
Curt
Oh. Oh.
00:59:16
jamie peacock
I'll have it in hand. Guess which color I got, Kurt.
00:59:17
Curt
say ah purple
00:59:20
jamie peacock
Game Boy Color.
00:59:22
Curt
oh game boy color nice like a bit
00:59:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, just because you wanted one. Yeah, don't know, whatever. One of the ones. i think it's the i think it's the it's the gc one. um yeah uh anyway ain't got that just because uh i know you wanted it and uh i thought i'd go uh and then yeah looking i was looking through my google box had 30 tabs open um looking at the local bamboo agents just to see how much they want to rip the ring on a bamboo printer which is actually hilarious um i think what i'll check is me um
00:59:32
Curt
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool.
00:59:38
Curt
and
00:59:56
jamie peacock
what i'll do is in the after show in the after show i'll uh do the screen sharing thing and i'll show you guys the the prices on bamboo printers it is hilarious in south africa like it is ridiculous the markup that they put on on the printers oh i need to update the the code on the imperializer because the rand dollar is way different to what it was like to the point that i want to really think about the price of the anchor point
00:59:56
Curt
Dox myself.
01:00:07
Curt
Nice, nice.
01:00:16
Curt
Ooh.
01:00:19
Curt
Oh, exciting.
01:00:25
Curt
Oh, really?
01:00:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, dude, it's significant. But we'll save that for the after show where we discuss ah exchange rates.
01:00:30
Curt
Sounds terrific.
01:00:33
Curt
Ooh. So if you don't stay for the nerd content, stay for the dork content.
01:00:34
jamie peacock
There we go, adding it to the dock. Yeah, there we go.
01:00:38
Curt
yeah
01:00:40
jamie peacock
ah yeah that's ah yeah, that's all that's in my Google box currently.
01:00:41
Curt
Go.
01:00:44
jamie peacock
Although having said that, speaking of Google boxes, Danica went, so she's going to be teaching teaching Java programming next year. She went to go assess these guys final year projects.
01:00:44
Curt
Go. go
01:00:57
jamie peacock
One of the kids goes up and do their presentation, goes to their web browser, starts typing a yeah URL with a P in it as the first letter.
01:01:05
Curt
Uh-oh.
01:01:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:06
Curt
Uh-oh, no!
01:01:07
jamie peacock
She's like, like, really?
01:01:07
Curt
Oh,
01:01:08
jamie peacock
You didn't clear your browser history before doing a presentation for your final project?
01:01:12
Curt
oh
01:01:13
jamie peacock
I was like, that is brilliant.
01:01:14
Curt
bummer. do did
01:01:16
jamie peacock
Like, oh, that's, yeah, amazing. So, yeah, those
Content and Product Updates
01:01:21
jamie peacock
who know, know. Okay, where can people, yeah, PYs.
01:01:22
Curt
Yeah, be careful of their kids.
01:01:26
jamie peacock
um
01:01:27
Curt
yeah
01:01:29
jamie peacock
Where can people find your stuff at, Kurt? Yeah.
01:01:32
Curt
uh confounded machine.com contact page there's an email box if you're not on my newsletter list i will be sending a big message out to everybody that'll dictate the new lottery stuff i will post it on social medias i'll post it everywhere but yeah you can't buy anything else um but that is the best way forward right now how about you master jamie where can people buy your sold out at anchor points we're almost sold out
01:01:55
jamie peacock
They're not sold out yet. There's three of batch one left. um That's at jspeceng.com. You can find the Anchor Point, the Framelot, the Titsy Knife, and the Fancy T-shirts, which will be available for another week and a bit.
Pre-Holiday Production Plans
01:02:07
jamie peacock
um Yeah, you can find me at jspec underscore engineering on the Instagrams, and that's can follow the day-to-day shenanigans in the shop. And then the podcast, you can find that at theloanmachinists.com, where you can find a link to the merch store with the shirts, as well as the companion guide and some bonus content when Kurt and I decide singing is fun.
01:02:28
jamie peacock
And my wife finds out.
01:02:32
Curt
Oh no. Oh no.
01:02:34
jamie peacock
oh What are you up to today, Kurt?
01:02:38
Curt
Today I'm going to do a little bit of anodizing because i like to punish myself. I haven't done anodizing in a while just because I killed that.
01:02:43
jamie peacock
Hang on, we skipped a topic!
01:02:46
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:02:46
Curt
I killed it because it was kind of boring.
01:02:48
Curt
um But yeah, just anodizing at scale.
01:02:49
jamie peacock
Sure.
01:02:50
Curt
It's getting more difficult to do anodizing at larger volumes. as my That's why I've done like a bunch of satin pens, titanium pens, just because it's a lot easier than trying to do 50 green pens, which makes me want to
01:02:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:02
Curt
walk into traffic um so anyways uh yeah i'll be doing a little bit of anodizing today and packing up orders contacting a bunch of customers i got cart sniped get this kind of clear off my conscience and then uh start the next batch which will be done i'm shooting before christmas um get that one done too i'd like to do two more batches but o let's see we're running out of hours so but yeah that's yeah yeah that doesn't well yeah yeah
01:03:12
jamie peacock
yeah
01:03:23
jamie peacock
um just sleep less work more good that's my policy right now it's bit unhealthy
01:03:32
Curt
How about you?
01:03:32
jamie peacock
talk
01:03:32
Curt
What are you up to? Are you going go back to work tonight?
01:03:35
jamie peacock
I think I'm going to go back to work tonight. um Go and try get the vacuum chuck into the machine or at least be ready to put it in in the morning. um And then yeah i might actually have a bit of an earlier night tonight because it's been like four nights in a row that I've been out there till silly late, which is beginning to affect the mental state.
01:03:51
Curt
Yeah.
01:03:52
jamie peacock
So yeah, don't know. I'll probably go fuck around there for an hour or two and then call it quits. And then tomorrow's Tufnel. Woo! Because that's still...
01:04:00
Curt
Wee!
01:04:01
jamie peacock
I think about three hours per plate, I've got eight of them to do. And those need to go out this week.
01:04:05
Curt
o
01:04:06
jamie peacock
Yeah. So hopefully by Thursday I'll be done with that, and I can go deliver it to them because they're going to start jumping up and down for it.
01:04:06
Curt
o Yeah, it's lots of work.
Closing Remarks and Future Teasers
01:04:15
Curt
Cool, man.
01:04:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, less than ideal. But anyway, thank you everybody for watching. If you've seen our faces, then you're obviously on Zencast like AJ, YouTube or Spotify. ah If you are listening with just audio, you can find us on one of those three places. And if you want to just listen to us, that that is also acceptable.
01:04:32
jamie peacock
That's how I consume our podcast. i don't want to look at my face at you. But yeah, thank you very much for thank you very much for watching.
01:04:36
Curt
No, nor do I.
01:04:39
jamie peacock
If you enjoyed it and want to share it, please do. And we'll see you next week. Well, actually, no, we won't. We'll see you in two weeks. Next week's a can kind of canned episode.
01:04:47
jamie peacock
It's the Dylan special. Yeah. There will be an episode, but it's from the past.
01:04:47
Curt
I mean, technically, technically we'll see them, but you won't just
01:04:52
Curt
Yeah.
01:04:54
jamie peacock
Dun, dun, dun.
01:04:54
Curt
We'll see you in the future. That was a good podcast. if you've If you've skipped every other podcast, listen to the Dylan one.
01:04:59
jamie peacock
Really good.
01:05:02
Curt
It's a good one.
01:05:02
jamie peacock
Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. Like, I'm really looking forward to listening to it again.
01:05:04
Curt
Me too, actually. I forgot. I forgot the conversation by now. Say I'm jazzed.
01:05:08
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's going to be exciting. Anyway, have a good one, and thank you for listening.
01:05:13
Curt
Take care, all.