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Ep. 46: The Spindle Witch Project
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Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including Spinderella’s royal crown upgrade, the great ABS hoard, Brick Shit House’s tournament domination, and Fondler 2’s triumphant debut.
They also dive into AI-assisted customer service, VFD tuning woes, round-bar philosophy, and why every shop should have bathroom SOPs.
It’s another week of chaos, craftsmanship, and coolant fumes, with a touch of royalty.
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction and Weekly Updates
00:00:00
jamie peacock
Welcome to the Lone Machinist podcast where we have no intro music because Spotify gave us a copyright strike last week and Jacob is dilly-dallying. What you got going on this week, Kurt?
00:00:11
Curt
My week is boring, but I will tease it as the best I could. i have a new packing workflow, maybe, Mulligan for a bunch of pen orders, and ah the shipping runaround that I'm just constantly always doing.
00:00:21
Curt
How about you? What are you going to talk about?
Concrete Lathe and Weather Stories
00:00:23
jamie peacock
vfd um kurt's concrete lathe and uh combat robots along with a bunch of other stuff this week but yeah let's get into it how are you doing this week kurt
00:00:27
Curt
Ooh.
00:00:34
Curt
I'm doing fantastic, man. Doing fantastic. Weather's warmed up. The snow has gone away again. And for November, that's crazy rare. So I'm a happy little camper. But yeah.
00:00:41
jamie peacock
nice yeah
00:00:43
Curt
How about your land? You look warm.
00:00:46
jamie peacock
Um, yeah, we went for walk this afternoon. soon and I was wearing new shoes and ended up ruining my feet and like sending Danica to go fetch the car and come fetch me. But I also realized, no, I realized I hadn't drank any water all day.
00:00:56
jamie peacock
So I was like, I'm like, okay, Danica, you need to go fetch the car.
00:00:57
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:01:00
jamie peacock
I'm not feeling like I'm going to fall over. So then I waited with the dogs and she was to fetch the car.
00:01:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:04
jamie peacock
And then I'd sit on the back of the truck because we only have truck at the moment with the doggos. So I stole a jacket.
00:01:12
Curt
OK, yeah, that makes sense then.
00:01:12
jamie peacock
Because yeah the drive home was a bit chilly and then it ya started raining now because the weatherman's a dick.
Lathe Maintenance and Personal Updates
00:01:18
jamie peacock
It actually rained so hard that the shack in the front yard with Carl's lathe in it, the tarp bowed and like ripped where the eyelets were.
00:01:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:01:28
jamie peacock
I went to pair scissors and shivved it so that the water would drain out.
00:01:29
Curt
Oh, really?
00:01:33
jamie peacock
Like we had another tarp over the machine under that, but yeah, we had, I think it was 45 millimeters of rain in like an hour and a half. So like, a shitload of rain.
00:01:41
Curt
Oh, that's enough. Yeah.
00:01:44
jamie peacock
The other day while we were we were out in the north, we had gone to see customers and stuff and then started raining, which made traffic even worse. But yeah, got back and then shivved the tarpaulin to get that sorted out.
00:01:58
jamie peacock
But yeah, yeah, just been chugging along.
00:01:58
Curt
it's Nice.
00:01:58
Curt
Nice. Nice.
00:02:02
jamie peacock
I don't know if you saw, yeah how's that?
00:02:03
Curt
how's that late How's that lathe coming along?
00:02:07
jamie peacock
Did you see my fancy tower light?
00:02:10
Curt
ah No, I've been like totally off Instagram all weekend.
00:02:11
jamie peacock
Oh, I made a little crown, because it's Spinderella.
00:02:13
Curt
so
00:02:16
Curt
Oh!
00:02:17
jamie peacock
So the towel adds a little crown, I printed it today out of clearre clear ABS, and then the user interface is now done.
00:02:18
Curt
Aw.
00:02:22
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:02:25
jamie peacock
VFD will arrive tomorrow.
00:02:27
Curt
Oh, hold up, hold up. Did you say clear ABS?
00:02:30
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:02:31
Curt
They have clear ABS filament?
00:02:33
jamie peacock
Yes. There's a wall over there.
00:02:34
Curt
I did not know this. I did not know this.
00:02:36
jamie peacock
yeah all my well this is like leading into like six different topics for today so uh we'll come back to the to the clear abs
00:02:37
Curt
Okay, that's cool.
Challenges with VFD and 3D Printing
00:02:44
jamie peacock
um in a bit but yeah the vfd will hopefully arrive tomorrow um then i'll so i'm buttoning everything else up got the uh the door chiller well connected to 110 volts today and i'm like
00:02:44
Curt
Yeah, yeah,
00:02:50
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:03:02
jamie peacock
this fan isn't spinning what the what's going on have a close look the whole the whole fan part of the fan had heated off so i opened it pulled the fan off found another one from somewhere else in the cabinet put that in there the chillers things working then I'm like okay last thing to do now is just hook up the analog the PWM to analog converter board hook it up, give it signal. It says calibrates at 50% duty cycle. So set the spindle to half speed, go to calibrate and one won't calibrate properly.
00:03:33
jamie peacock
So I'm hang on. This one I found in the bottom of the EMCOs box. I think it may be dead. So I ordered another two. They'll be here tomorrow. And then VFD arrives tomorrow.
00:03:45
jamie peacock
That is it. I can start doing test cuts.
00:03:48
Curt
Mm, mm, exciting.
00:03:49
jamie peacock
should be somewhat Should be somewhat interesting. I do think I need to tune the servos a little more. There's a bit of bounce at high speed, so I'm going to mess around with that a bit and see if I can get the tuning a bit better.
00:04:02
jamie peacock
But yeah, kind of need to start running parts now. So we're getting there. We're buttoning things up, like system by system. Hydraulics are in. M codes are written like it's hydraulics. The chuck opens and closes with the M code and with a button.
00:04:16
jamie peacock
The parts catchers, parts catchering.
00:04:17
Curt
Cool.
00:04:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's just like, it's all the little tasks now, and obviously the giant freaking VFD.
00:04:24
Curt
Right, right, right, right.
00:04:25
jamie peacock
Yeah, so, batting it up, slowly but surely. And yeah, tower light was one of the things that got dealt with, it was like a four-hour print. It wasn't exactly small. But yeah, it looks f freaking cool. And yeah, that's...
00:04:35
Curt
That's a good idea. Yeah.
00:04:37
jamie peacock
No, figured I might as well make a custom one.
00:04:38
Curt
ah
Combat Robots and Tournament Experiences
00:04:39
jamie peacock
When I did the Emco, I printed UI, I had like a piece of angle line at the top, and I put LEDs in there, and I printed in clear PLA. I printed two pieces that slotted on, so that that whole top bar glows, which looks really cool.
00:04:54
Curt
Yeah, that's what made me want to do one.
00:04:55
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:04:56
Curt
i was like, oh, that's so pretty. Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, so now the Spinderella had a tower light, had a freaking spinny light. So I took that off months ago and I had the plates on my desk and I modeled that and then I was like, I didn't know what I wanted. And then yeah, today was like, okay, screw it. Found a crown online, modified it in Fusion.
00:05:12
jamie peacock
Fusion hated its life because it top pulled in a STL.
00:05:14
Curt
I'm
00:05:16
jamie peacock
But yeah, got that modified and printed and yeah, up here must smelled like ABS for a while.
00:05:24
Curt
going
00:05:24
jamie peacock
But not my problem, I wasn't sitting here.
00:05:27
Curt
to have to absolutely print a crown for mine. my little My little people always love, they love the light because they love a change in colors, but if there was a if there's like a princess crown on top, it'd blow their fucking little minds.
00:05:35
jamie peacock
Yes. Oh, that, yeah.
00:05:36
Curt
They'd be like, what? I'm going to do that. Okay.
00:05:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, i are you mostly print ABS, eh?
00:05:44
Curt
uh i mean i have like a hundred rolls of abs because like the i had some old three mil like i have one printer that runs three mil still and one company was like no one buys this so they sold it to me for nothing so i have like 20 rolls of of white abs so i print a lot of things in abs just because i can
00:05:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:05:50
jamie peacock
Oh, jeez.
00:05:55
jamie peacock
Yeah. Oh, OK. Oh, jeez.
00:06:01
jamie peacock
Yeah, I mean, I've got, so there's the collection of buckets behind me, ah which you probably i't be able to see because the video gets cropped. But anyway, I've got four buckets. i've got an ABS bucket, a PETG bucket, a PLA bucket, and a TPU bucket.
00:06:13
jamie peacock
Which one has like three rolls of filaments in it, because I like to have lots of filaments apparently. But yeah, having it in a bucket with desiccant makes the world a difference. I was discussing that over the weekend, actually with some of the some of the robot cars, because we got a new guy came and bought some hardware and was asking questions about printing TPO.
00:06:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:32
jamie peacock
I'm like, dude, take a brand new role, open it, throw in the back of the desk for two days, and then print. And it makes the world of difference. So ah job we had a
00:06:41
Curt
Yeah. I've been
Future Plans for Robot Building
00:06:43
Curt
meaning i I've been meaning to make a dryer for it. I've just never, I've never dried my filament, but it's also pretty dry here all winter.
00:06:43
jamie peacock
really meaning to
00:06:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:50
Curt
just, eh.
00:06:50
jamie peacock
yeah I never used to bother and then PETG it's pretty much required where we are and I noticed it on silver PLA.
00:06:57
Curt
Hmm.
00:07:02
jamie peacock
I would get bubbling if I didn't dry it.
00:07:03
Curt
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:07:06
jamie peacock
So and that was the first time I noticed it. I'm like, what the hell's going on? Threw in the desk and bucket for two days, sorted. Same thing with PETG TPU. It makes a big difference with just print quality.
00:07:16
Curt
That makes sense.
00:07:16
jamie peacock
but The PETG literally just won't stick to the bed if it's wet.
00:07:22
Curt
Oh, really?
00:07:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, it will not stick, and then you grab a roll out of the bucket, put it in, sticks perfectly. Like, even on a clean bed, it really, yeah.
00:07:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:07:31
jamie peacock
it Printing's finicky, but super useful.
00:07:35
Curt
Yeah, yeah, no doubt. No doubt.
00:07:37
jamie peacock
But yeah, other so this weekend, I managed to break some robots.
00:07:37
Curt
Cool.
00:07:42
Curt
Ooh, OK.
00:07:43
jamie peacock
Yes, using my robot's face, Brick Shit House did the thing.
00:07:43
Curt
Do you guys have a tournament or?
00:07:48
jamie peacock
So we had a tournament and were a bit light on competitors.
00:07:49
Curt
Hmm.
00:07:52
jamie peacock
Two or three the guys couldn't make it. So I said to Danica, it's fine. I'll run two destructives. Thwank is currently out of commission because I don't feel like putting another motor on her. So I had my beater bot, which is just like a beater bot.
00:08:04
jamie peacock
And I had Brickshed House. And Brickshed House has been in like five or six tournaments, but it's always been my second pick. So if I could advance the other robot, I advance the other robot in favor of like over
Machinist League and Creativity
00:08:15
jamie peacock
Brickshed House.
00:08:17
jamie peacock
And this tournament on the side of Brickshithouse was the number one robot. So I literally just drove it to people till their weapons broke. It was great. And then when their weapon breaks, it's a pushing match and I'm a four-wheel drive brick.
00:08:28
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, so i ended up ended up winning the tournament with Brickshithouse and ended up coming fourth with Beda.
00:08:29
Curt
Right. know what
00:08:34
jamie peacock
But in that fourth place fight, or in the third place fight, I ended up losing the motor. And think a gearbox. i it was There was more damage done in this tournament than has been in any tournaments before.
00:08:49
jamie peacock
like Before the finals, everyone was rebuilding their destructive bots. Well, except for Brickshadows.
00:08:55
Curt
you know what you
00:08:56
jamie peacock
Brickshadows was fine.
00:08:57
Curt
You have to like bend the rules so you can build like a, like NPC or and NPR robots, like little AI robots so that when there's not enough competitors, you could drop just like a dumb little robot in that just does, you know, like a pat, like just, just like another little person to play.
00:09:11
jamie peacock
Just avoids the pits,
00:09:13
Curt
Yeah. Just one that avoids the pits and tries to hit people. And like, that'd be cool. Yeah.
00:09:18
jamie peacock
So we ended up all having to rebuild rowers. It was a lot of fun. It was the most destruction we've seen so far. Brickshed House just didn't care. It's freaking aluminum billet block. And then I had my new bot, Fondler.
00:09:27
Curt
Right. Right.
00:09:30
jamie peacock
um or fondlet 2 my new non-destructive and that's printed in abs because it's a bit lighter and because it prints better with the overhangs i have like it's amazing you go from printing pl i printed the first one in pla and then the overhang looked like shit so i switched to abs and the overhangs are just perfect because it's abs yeah ah and prints like jelly not like liquid um but yeah that that went well i think i came second in uh
00:09:50
Curt
right
00:09:59
jamie peacock
in the non destructive.
00:10:01
Curt
That's cool.
00:10:02
jamie peacock
So clean up over the weekend, it was great fun.
00:10:02
Curt
That's cool.
00:10:05
jamie peacock
But yeah, we, I think our next tournaments only in the new year, because now and we're actually we're gonna, I think we're gonna push our league year to July, because we seem to have the most interest around the middle of the year.
00:10:17
jamie peacock
So we're going to push the league, we'll push this year to July, and then next year will be July to July. In an attempt to have you have it when is the most people engaged.
00:10:23
Curt
I see.
00:10:28
Curt
Right, yeah, so you can have your whatever. end the year tournaments or whatever.
00:10:30
jamie peacock
yeahll likek are you Yeah,
00:10:31
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:10:33
jamie peacock
But yeah, it was lots of fun and broke lots of things.
00:10:33
Curt
That's cool.
00:10:36
jamie peacock
I like breaking things. It's fun. But yeah, now I have plans afoot for some new robots.
00:10:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:41
jamie peacock
I think Brickshard is going to be retired or just put into, like, back rotation. If we need a bot, we can throw it in. Or for Rumbles, I can throw it in. It's one. I'm content. Like, I drove into the guy's weapon until it broke. i'm fucking stoked.
00:10:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, that way it was like a very good weekend. very good weekend But yeah, so yeah.
00:11:00
Curt
Man, here and you hearing you talk about that just gives me that like ah every every podcast we do, I just get more and more of an itch to like build robots. i just I used to build robots like all the time.
00:11:07
jamie peacock
So
00:11:10
Curt
I loved it. and it's like I haven't done it in so long. I've got to get back into that world.
00:11:13
jamie peacock
the nice thing is you've got all your drone racing stuff. So you have most of the things.
00:11:17
Curt
I've got shit tons of parts.
00:11:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:18
Curt
Yeah, tons of parts.
00:11:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:20
Curt
So it's like, there's nothing stopping me.
00:11:21
jamie peacock
That's I mean, That's how I got back. Well, that's i got back into RCs with combat robots. But I don't know what AJ1 is like.
00:11:27
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:11:28
jamie peacock
If there was a league nearby, he would compete. Apparently, Mr. Gray is looking for some information on that he might start a machinist league, which would be quite cool.
00:11:35
Curt
oh that would be a brutal league. That would be a brutal
00:11:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, it would be rough league. Even now, I've got plans afoot for a Froggo v two which is going to be a belt drive dual disc spinner made out titanium. Folks are going to shit themselves because everyone's like, TPU, TPU, TPU don't stand a chance against a sharp blade.
00:11:53
jamie peacock
So yeah, I've got stupid plans afoot there, but it's also case of just finding time to do it.
00:11:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:57
jamie peacock
I mean, I designed a robot on Thursday night. In about 45 minutes, I reworked Fondler into Fondler 2, put it on the printer, went to bed, woke in the morning, tested some stuff, reprinted it that evening, and assembled it and competed the next day.
00:12:12
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:12:13
jamie peacock
Like, I can't justify taking a shitload of time to do it.
00:12:18
Curt
Yeah, yeah, I know, I get that.
00:12:18
jamie peacock
ah yeah So, tell me about your pi your better packing workflow.
00:12:21
Curt
fun.
00:12:24
Curt
Uh, so I had to order a bunch of packing sp supplies cause I just had enough to do my last order. Um, and I usually your order from Uline, but Uline's kind of, as a company, I love how they run. Um, the owner of the company, she's, or I think it's, I'm pretty sure it's girl.
00:12:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:38
Curt
She's a huge piece of shit. Like she, she has some horrible, horrible takes on the world. So I try not to support them. Um, so I ordered, uh, boxes from another. So anyways, I ordered boxes slightly different size so that like the, like water activated tape,
00:12:51
Curt
would like be perfect size and they're like their pizza box so they slot in the front it sounds so dumb but like this way i can i can prep a bunch of boxes with tape already on them so like when i get an order parts go in and just like i just flip the two pieces of tape around it and it's done and like because i like calculate how much time i just spend like putting tape on boxes and it's like i spend like an hour taping up you know an order of boxes just because it's like every single box you have to do something it' so anyways
00:13:05
jamie peacock
Okay, yeah. Yeah. Not really.
00:13:18
Curt
i'm excited about that which is the most dumb thing to be excited about but like so i i bought a whole new line of of uh packing stuff so i'm kind of jazzed to see how that's going to work out um so hopefully that'll kill the kind of and it just like dumb things like putting my stamps on boxes and just trying to like streamline everything because like doing 10 20 not a big deal if i want to do a thousand of them it's just like i will cry so it's like yeah
00:13:21
jamie peacock
but really
00:13:37
jamie peacock
not a problem. Yeah.
00:13:40
jamie peacock
Well, yeah, that's my thing right now packing anchor points is not too much of a slip. But if I need to do large quantities, it's going to be annoying as hell. Especially with the paperwork side, like I can bring in stuff into tunnel, but it doesn't work super well.
00:13:49
Curt
Totally.
00:13:56
jamie peacock
Ooh, exciting. It made it through Memphis.
00:14:00
Curt
Oh, your package?
00:14:02
jamie peacock
the package made it past the elvis impersonators and is in oxnard right now should be delivered in the next probably two hours or so
00:14:13
Curt
Yeah, I'm kind of um' kind of sweating because this last draw, like I did it with ah like CUSMA so I don't have to charge tariffs or anything, but the package is still showing.
00:14:21
jamie peacock
yeah yes
00:14:22
Curt
It'll show pending probably until it hits like the next clearing stage, but it kind of freaks me out because it's it's a bulk package. So from like a third party it, so like all the orders get packed into a huge box and I ship that out and then the third party breaks that package open and then distributes it to all the other people.
00:14:34
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:14:39
Curt
um And it's insured right now, which is good because it's a very expensive box. um But I'm still scared because it's like a lot of cash.
00:14:45
jamie peacock
Well, speaking speaking of insurance, I'm still waiting on the insurance. Like I messaged them today. I messaged channel today. I'm like, hey, what's happening with my claim? They're we are waiting. It's still in process.
00:14:58
jamie peacock
We are looking for another insurer now because I think they're getting...
00:15:00
Curt
Oh, really? oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:15:03
jamie peacock
No, no. It's going on three months now. Like, not fucking cool. Like, I've shipped out the replacement part, or the replacement anchor point. Like, cool, but yeah, I want that fucking money back.
00:15:17
jamie peacock
So yeah, yeah they said to me today they're looking for a um for a new insurer because there's been massive delays from these guys. So a little bit frustrating, but not the end of the world.
00:15:29
Curt
Yeah.
00:15:31
jamie peacock
It will be delivered today, and I will be happy that it's delivered.
00:15:35
Curt
That's awesome. That's good.
00:15:36
jamie peacock
then assume, well, it'll be delivered yesterday if you're listening to the podcast on the day of release.
00:15:37
Curt
That's good.
00:15:44
jamie peacock
Forget we work in a time machine.
00:15:44
Curt
it
00:15:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, actually, Danica's going to be done recording tonight.
00:15:46
Curt
Exactly. yeah
00:15:49
jamie peacock
Danica's coming upstairs to hit post-process and get the podcast ahead because she's got meetings all day tomorrow.
00:15:55
Curt
Oh, wow.
00:15:55
jamie peacock
Yes, because my bar loader is now going to be gainfully employed.
00:15:56
Curt
Wow.
00:16:00
jamie peacock
So with the Java courses she's teaching next year, she's interviewing the candidates to make sure that they're actually going to be successful at the course, making sure they have the correct aptitudes and stuff.
00:16:10
Curt
Hmm.
00:16:12
jamie peacock
And yeah, she rejected one today because they scored a bit low on the logic stuff. And then She asked him a question about what do you do if you almost finish with the project? And the customer says to you, oh, but um it doesn't do this.
00:16:27
jamie peacock
And the guy's answer was, oh, no, we see how quickly we can develop it. I'm like, no. You've got to look at the scope of work. If it's not in the scope of work, it's lot to get fucked. Like...
00:16:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:36
jamie peacock
And then was like, okay, fine.
00:16:36
Curt
yeah
00:16:39
jamie peacock
Asked him another question about, you've got her you've just dev'd a website. It works perfectly in your local install. You push it to the server and it doesn't, it just crashes. What do you do?
00:16:50
jamie peacock
And he's like, uh, uh, uh, I'm like, I'm not a fucking developer. How am supposed to do it? She's like, what do you do on the machine if it does something done? Fucking single block it. You figure out where the problem is. Like you look at the log files, like you locate the issue.
00:17:03
jamie peacock
where it's crashing and then try and solve it. Otherwise you can chase yourself circles. So very interesting. But yeah, she's working that tonight because she's got meetings all day tomorrow.
00:17:14
Curt
Oh, well.
00:17:14
jamie peacock
Should be fun having a game for an employed wife.
00:17:14
Curt
Well, thank you, Danica.
00:17:17
jamie peacock
Very fancy.
00:17:18
Curt
Yeah, that'd be nice. Yeah.
00:17:20
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:17:20
Curt
Sugar mama. Yeah.
00:17:22
jamie peacock
100%. I was saying to her like, yeah, fucking take some stress off. It'll be great. I can.
00:17:26
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, it helps.
00:17:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, because it helps a lot.
00:17:28
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:29
jamie peacock
So yeah anyway, um
00:17:33
jamie peacock
Did you happen to go on Instagram on Friday and see my story?
00:17:37
Curt
up I believe, tell me what what story, what story was, and I will tell you if I can.
00:17:41
jamie peacock
The one with the mountain of sawdust on the floor and in the air. Oh,
00:17:45
Curt
Oh, no, because I would have called you out on that. No, what are you what are you doing?
00:17:47
jamie peacock
no, not in my workshop. Fuck no. um
00:17:50
Curt
Oh, okay, good.
00:17:50
jamie peacock
Well, yeah. No, no. I had to replace...
00:17:52
Curt
thought I lost you.
00:17:52
jamie peacock
No, no. I had to replace a linear guard on a router.
00:17:58
Curt
Ooh.
00:17:58
jamie peacock
My favorite brand of router, iscm o is and is em e SCM
00:18:04
Curt
Are those...
00:18:06
jamie peacock
not the pneumatic scum.
00:18:06
Curt
are those But you help them out pretty frequently, like a few times a year.
00:18:10
jamie peacock
So I've got two customers. ah Yeah, I've got two customers that have their that flavor of machine. So there's the guys the five access ones that I've replaced guards on, put oilers on. I do their maintenance for them when they break them.
00:18:22
jamie peacock
Since I put oilers, they don't break because I'm that skilled. um You'd swear they were sails. They just never break. um So those guys, I still make pins for them and odds and ends. yeah I kind of do less and less maintenance for them, which is nice.
00:18:37
jamie peacock
These guys, I retrofitted their machine just before IMTS last year. And then they had a bearing go out in March. And I put an oiler, and then they had two bearings go out in their x-axis now.
00:18:51
jamie peacock
And it's a cantilever story. This one's actually not too horrible to work on. It's not a case of chop a piece of allen key this long, put the piece of allen key into the head of the bolt of the hex screw or cap screw, then put the socket on.
00:19:04
jamie peacock
You can't put them together then put them in. You have to do them in this order. Then lift an extension through the weldment, click it, and then put another extension through a hole. ah This one wasn't that bad. But yeah, they lost, ah they had two bearings, the ends exploded. So I went and just made a plan of the oiling system and then ordered them proper oil manifolds this week. So they'll be in like three weeks, then I'll go and install those for them.
00:19:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, helped them out. And then also ran into my old boss's son at his other son's place where I bought the linear guards from because his other son's the THK... THK rep, well, agent.
00:19:39
jamie peacock
So, like, I've got a good relationship with both of the sons. Ran into Mark. I haven't seen Mark in seven years. So, caught up with him for a bit and saw his wife and whatnot. And then chatted to the other brother, Dave.
00:19:52
jamie peacock
Had a chat to him for, like, 30 minutes because they're trying to get an agency for a one of the robot brands here. They basically because THK do the linear tracks for the robots.
00:20:03
jamie peacock
And he's like, listen, yeah, i will trade you a linear track for a robot. You can put a robot as a demo in our place. You can do what the fuck you want without the track. um So yeah, they're waiting to hear back from Kuka and Yaskawa, someone else as well.
00:20:18
jamie peacock
ABB.
00:20:19
Curt
Cool.
00:20:19
jamie peacock
So yeah, kind of cool. Like I'm changing. I'm like, I look at the the way Dave runs that business and it's like he's got a vision of where he wants to be and he's moving towards that. Which is yeah very interesting.
00:20:29
Curt
It's kind of a wise yeah wise way to go
00:20:30
jamie peacock
Yeah. Interesting to chat to someone who's got a direction he wants to go. in He wants to go to a certain point and he's everything he does is in service of getting to that point.
00:20:42
jamie peacock
It's also one of the the like most lean slash clean slash everything has a freaking SOP shops I've ever been in. Like i went to the bathroom and it's got things on the back of the door about follow the procedure then and I'm like, fucking cool.
00:20:50
Curt
Cool.
00:20:55
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:56
jamie peacock
Because normally here it's just freaking YOLO.
00:20:59
Curt
Right, right, right.
00:21:00
jamie peacock
back
00:21:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, there's a lot of YOLO here. I mean, even some of the wood places where the 5-axis machines are, they do the spindles between the legs on oak chairs.
00:21:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:10
jamie peacock
They're all color-coded. when the guys make them, they get a colored sticker put on, they get racked. When the guy needs it, he just grabs that color one and it doesn't have to think about size. They try to make it as simple as possible for the guys to assemble.
00:21:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:21:24
jamie peacock
Really cool seeing that kind of stuff actually implemented here.
00:21:28
Curt
Yeah, that was my, yeah ah the last like little bit of i had at my day job, I got like a lot of time was put into like, same thing, like quote lean, like project flow through the shop and just like trying to find ways to make things Like i had I had the code for all the ah products we made just in QRs because the Masso control that was on one of the CNCs that I retrofitted there. You can just scan the QR code and the and the G code is populated. And like, so I had a binder with the guys laminated and was like, open it up, scan the first one. And it tells you like, put this material on, scan it, go.
00:21:58
Curt
Next one, scan it, go. Because like, then you can have less skilled people. yeah I love that. That was a lot of fun.
00:22:02
jamie peacock
100%. You can have it run by an idiot and it'll still be fun.
00:22:03
Curt
Yeah, that was a ton fun. Oh, and then they you find out where like you're like, huh, I never would have thought you would have done it that way. It's just like, that's okay.
00:22:13
jamie peacock
you try and make it idiot proof and they make you better they make better idiots yeah
00:22:13
Curt
I found another. Yeah.
00:22:17
Curt
yeah Exactly. Yeah. You're like, I didn't think a brain would work that way, but okay, let's figure out how to not do that again.
00:22:23
jamie peacock
well that's like i've got lot of people i'll push them to use fusion they're like okay give me training i'm like no sorry not happening i'm not giving you training because there's a million things i'll take for granted that i'm not going to teach you like there's just things that i've literally been a freaking draftsman for 20 years
00:22:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:35
Curt
yeah
00:22:42
jamie peacock
It's not good. I've been like, I literally have been playing on cat for 20 years at this point. These things I take for granted, I'm not going to teach you. And that is going to be that is going to make your life difficult. Is that I like to make stuff of course, go pay $110 and go do that course.
00:22:55
jamie peacock
It teaches you everything and the correct way to do it. Not the Jamie way to do it. The correct way.
00:23:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:01
jamie peacock
Because just because I can do it and it works doesn't mean it's the right way to do it.
00:23:02
Curt
Absolutely.
00:23:05
Curt
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
00:23:07
jamie peacock
So also trying to steer away from doing dumb shit.
00:23:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:11
jamie peacock
It's kind difficult.
00:23:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, so um what's happening with your refills?
00:23:16
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, man.
00:23:19
Curt
Uh, so, so I kind of had a little bit of a panic cause I contacted the, like, I, I use a third party company in Canada. Once again, I can't order my refills directly from Germany. I've talked to them. They're like, we don't do that. We have a distributor in Canada. You must use them. Like, okay, whatever, fine.
00:23:31
jamie peacock
Pardon?
00:23:32
Curt
And I've talked to a few of the other big Canadian makers of pens and knives and they do the same thing I'm doing.
00:23:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:23:37
Curt
Um, so I'm like, Hey, did you try to like approach him and be like, I'll be the Canadian, and like the Canadian distributor. They're we play that same game. I was like, fuck. Okay. That's that game I played too. So anyways, I contacted the Canadian company, just ghost. no Like i Googled their website, nothing shows up. Like I Googled their where they used to be, nothing shows up. I'm like, do they go out into business?
00:23:55
Curt
So I emailed the German company. I'm like, hey, like I'm trying to order, but the Canadian distributor is done. So ordered from a third party because I was freaking out that I'm not going to able to get my refills because there's a huge lead time on them. And then meanwhile, I think the German company contacted the Canadian company was like, hey, what's the deal?
00:24:10
Curt
Because they immediately got back to me. They're sorry for the huge delay. What do you need? i was like, Son of a bitch. I thought I had you now. I thought I was going to be the distributor. So anyways, it all worked out, but I ended up buying like way more refills than I wanted because I panic bought a bunch because I thought I was going to get screwed.
00:24:19
jamie peacock
yeah
00:24:25
Curt
And then I can't sell anything if I don't have refills. I mean, I technically could, but it kind of seems lame to sell someone a pen without a refill.
00:24:28
jamie peacock
yeah but he has a pin that doesn't pin
00:24:32
Curt
So yeah, exactly. Like find your own. It's like, oh you're spending this kind of cash. Like, so anyways, I got it all sorted, but it's just like, ah like so much, like, I don't know That's like the lean has its place for sure.
00:24:44
Curt
Like, you know, like, Oh, I have one thing left. I'm going to order four more. That's great for certain things.
00:24:48
jamie peacock
yeah
00:24:49
Curt
And for certain things I like to take, what is it like the Glock approach of like, we have two years of, yeah.
00:24:52
jamie peacock
i got two years here
00:24:54
Curt
and Sometimes I was like, you know what, for a cheap product, like a refill, which is like, you know, doesn't cost very much. I'm like, I'm just going to order like a year supply. Cause I'm like, I don't have to think about it. And the lead time is massive. So it's like, yeah, I don't know.
00:25:05
jamie peacock
No, that's what I've started doing with torque screws because I need M2x5 torque screws for a job that hasn't come through yet, but there's three weeks lead time on them.
00:25:05
Curt
Just,
00:25:16
jamie peacock
So just order $1,000. It's like $20.
00:25:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:20
jamie peacock
Just fucking order $1,000. Put them in the cupboard. You'll use them for something else. like Rather have them and not need them than need them and not have them.
00:25:24
Curt
yeah
00:25:27
jamie peacock
It's just like the generator.
00:25:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:28
jamie peacock
I ran my generator today just to keep the battery charged.
00:25:29
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:31
jamie peacock
I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
00:25:35
Curt
Yeah, and like you said, if it's not hugely cash, you know, detrimental, i I'm good with just stocking up.
00:25:35
jamie peacock
no
00:25:39
jamie peacock
yeah yeah no 100% that's um my tool drawer is that exactly like multiple copies of fucking everything
00:25:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:48
jamie peacock
that when I need a spare, it's there and then I can order it and I know I've got time to order a spare and not be dead in the water.
00:25:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:55
jamie peacock
I mean, even even anchor point stuff.
00:25:56
Curt
Yeah, what?
00:25:58
jamie peacock
I've got 50 ish pull studs in stock with like 50 slide valves in stock, all the stuff that's got long lead time is just order it. It's not particularly expensive. You just need to have it on hand for when you need it.
00:26:10
Curt
Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah, it's yeah.
00:26:12
jamie peacock
Well,
00:26:13
Curt
i mean, that's probably why we do so much of our like own, like you build so much of stuff in house. I build so much my stuff in house is just because I'm just like, okay, material.
00:26:18
jamie peacock
Yep.
00:26:21
Curt
All I got to do is source material. everything else I can make from material. He's like yeah, it costs time, but like now I'm not like, oh, sorry, we don't have those. We won't have them for six months. And it's like, oh, that just totally screws me. So it's like, yeah.
00:26:33
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm thinking of making a phone call tomorrow and arranging an urgent meeting at the Diesel Guys with the CEO.
00:26:39
Curt
Hmm.
00:26:40
jamie peacock
Because don't know if i mentioned to you that I got an email from, think it was last it would have been after the podcast. Yeah. Anyway, got an email from them requesting a quote for 250 tubes. like, what?
00:26:53
jamie peacock
um So I emailed back and said, listen, yeah lead time of one month. I warned you that I wouldn't have a machine. It's down for maintenance. Maintenance, as I retrofitted.
00:27:03
jamie peacock
I warned you about this a month ago. You didn't order stock. That's not my fucking problem. So I emailed them, obviously put a bit more polite to that.
00:27:03
Curt
All
00:27:08
Curt
right.
00:27:10
jamie peacock
But then the second half of the email, we have a surplus of this part. Would you consider buying it back? Because we've changed the design since because... Apparently it wasn't problem, it's fucking problem.
00:27:21
jamie peacock
So I was like, Danica, please will you come and respond to this email for me? Because if I do, it's going to be get fucked cunt. Three words. So she responded, she's like, as per our terms of service attached in every single email you've ever received, as per this section, this section, this section, like just citing all the fucking sections.
00:27:41
jamie peacock
In other words, it's correct to the drawings, get fucked.
00:27:44
jamie peacock
Like...
00:27:44
Curt
Right.
00:27:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:45
jamie peacock
Sorry, you want me to buy it back or you want drugs?
00:27:46
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:48
jamie peacock
I'm not going to take that $600 or $700 worth of parts. I'm like, sorry, no. Order new ones.
00:27:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:54
jamie peacock
So I had a look at who was in the email chain and I noticed the CEO of the company wasn't. So I added him. Just at the end of the CCs, my tolerance for their shit is now gone.
00:28:04
Curt
Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:06
jamie peacock
like I'm going to give them a call tomorrow and like, hey, we need to have a chat about what's going on with your gas supply chain because orders for this year close in four days. Like we sent out an email in the beginning of the month saying, everybody,
00:28:20
jamie peacock
Effectively, if you want shipped by the end of January, it needs to be ordered by the 15th of this month. Our suppliers close in December. Like, they only close on the 10th of December, but you can bet that those last 10 days, they're going to either be super busy cutting every everyone's urgent orders, or they are going to be not wanting to work and wanting to go on holiday.
00:28:34
Curt
Yeah. No. Mm-hmm.
00:28:39
jamie peacock
So we're trying to get out ahead of it, and they ordered 250 tubes. They're going to try and place an order in December, I'm going to be like, sorry.
00:28:46
jamie peacock
I'm not interested. Your lack of planning is not my merchant um emergency.
00:28:46
Curt
yeah
00:28:53
jamie peacock
I warned you. I've given you months of warning. So I've kind of at my wit's end with them and I think I'm just going to go and speak to the CEO and just be like, hey, dude, this is the situation.
00:29:05
jamie peacock
Also, you haven't had a price increase and hourly rate has gone up. So sorry for you. The price is about to go significantly.
00:29:13
Curt
yeah
00:29:14
jamie peacock
Because it's been three years and I've been like, we've been making the parts quicker and quicker, but I don't really care. I like money.
00:29:22
Curt
I think me you need to both read the pumpkin plan book because I think that's i think that's the i think that's a shitty pumpkin.
00:29:25
jamie peacock
I think we do.
00:29:28
Curt
think that's a pumpkin that might need to go away.
00:29:30
jamie peacock
Yeah, like the problem is there's, there's promises there that are be smushed.
00:29:31
Curt
Or at least sh... Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:29:36
jamie peacock
There's like promises.
00:29:36
Curt
yeah
00:29:36
jamie peacock
and Yeah, they the thing is the issue they've got there is they've got middle management trying to bring new products to market and promising promising and then hitting snags and delaying.
00:29:48
jamie peacock
And they don't see the the downstream effects of those delays.
00:29:53
Curt
Right, right, yeah.
00:29:54
jamie peacock
Like, I'm the one eating shit with the delays.
00:29:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:57
jamie peacock
So now anything going forward, like, the product the prototype costs are going to be through the roof. Like, 20x what production's gonna cost to cover my fucking bases. Because, sorry, yours have fucked me around long enough.
00:30:11
jamie peacock
But yeah, I think they might need to just get wade.
00:30:11
Curt
yeah
00:30:13
jamie peacock
But currently they still pay the bills, so I tolerate their shit.
00:30:18
Curt
I get it. Yeah, it's it's tough.
00:30:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:20
Curt
yeah and You're getting money from them, but you want it. Yeah, I get it.
00:30:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, I actually want to print out what we've...
00:30:23
Curt
and There's always more to it. Mm-hmm.
00:30:28
jamie peacock
I must print out a report for this financial year. And, well, since je like ah just the actual year. And see what the actual versus what was promised and what we did last year is. Because what we did last year was like four five times what we've done this year.
00:30:43
jamie peacock
If not actually a bit more.
00:30:44
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:30:45
jamie peacock
So it's like, guys, what the fuck's going on here? This was one of your core products. What the fuck? So, yeah. Anyway. enough of those those counts but i think i'm just going to give them a call and light some fires because i can
00:30:57
Curt
Yeah. Well, like you said, sometimes communication is all that needs, especially when you're talking to the CEO. He like, yeah.
00:31:02
jamie peacock
well that's a thing like danica was saying he probably doesn't know what's going on yet and i know i know he doesn't want to lose me as a supplier because he he knows he can bring his r and d shit to me and i sort it out for them
00:31:06
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:31:13
jamie peacock
Like um this year I've done more in R&D with him than I've done in production.
00:31:13
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:18
jamie peacock
Like where they want to bring in new products, they want stuff printed or want a design done. Like he comes to me because he knows the problem will just go away.
00:31:25
Curt
Yeah, yeah. There's value in that too, for sure.
00:31:27
jamie peacock
cloud Yeah. Speaking of things that don't go away, our Patreons. We have a Patreon, yes. And the Patreons are supporting the podcast so that we don't sleep on the streets for IMTS of 2026.
00:31:36
Curt
Yay.
00:31:43
jamie peacock
um Yeah, the money for from that is basically going straight to there to find us an Airbnb and also kidnap Kurt. um Special thanks to our top tier Patreons, Jade from Benchmark20, Luke from Fabtastic, AJ from Subtract Manufacturing and 21 other companies, EJ from Octurnal Welding, Jason S and the Aussie Machinist.
00:31:55
Curt
Thank
00:32:02
jamie peacock
Thank you guys, and thank you to all the other Patreons as well, who got to name Spinderella. It's one of the perks of being on the Patreon, is you get to vote on things, including naming my Laid something kind of interesting.
00:32:13
jamie peacock
I don't hate it anymore. I did hate it in the beginning, but I've gotten used to calling her Spinderella.
00:32:19
Curt
Well, I will, ah i think Spinderella is also a DJ from like way back in the day. so yeah, you got that going for you too now.
00:32:25
jamie peacock
if Well, Carl's Laid's name is the Spin Doctor. Yeah.
00:32:32
Curt
That's cool. Yeah, that works.
00:32:32
jamie peacock
So we've Spinderella and the Spin Doctor. dear. So, speaking of lathes, I put another VFD on Bertha.
00:32:41
Curt
Yes.
00:32:44
Curt
ah Jamie's VFD Emporium now.
00:32:46
jamie peacock
Dude. So, okay. Remember I mentioned Bertha was possessed?
00:32:52
Curt
you Right. Yeah, yeah, you did.
00:32:53
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:32:53
Curt
You did.
00:32:53
jamie peacock
I did exorcism and I took that piece of shit VFD off and put a different VFD on. So I put a...
00:32:57
Curt
Okay.
00:32:58
jamie peacock
um four kilowatt VFD on because I had it. It doesn't run this lathe. So I just was like, hey I'll put it on there. Dude, I wish I had done that like two years ago. I've had that VFD kicking around for so long.
00:33:11
jamie peacock
The machine spins up in like five seconds to 2000 RPM.
00:33:16
jamie peacock
And it stops and like it's supposed to. And it's just frickin awesome.
00:33:16
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:33:19
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:33:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I was there on on Sunday for only two hours this time, not a whole day. um So we fitted that got that working check that when it goes in reverse, it doesn't possess the drives.
00:33:33
jamie peacock
And yeah, that's all now fixed. The Commissioner saying he had to figure out how the homing switches work because there was a shaving on top of one. So it wouldn't home. because they're inductive.
00:33:44
jamie peacock
So he figured that out without me.
00:33:44
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:33:46
jamie peacock
um And he's like, go I'm like, when are you going run the thing with without me? He's like, he's a bit scared. I'm like, dude, if you want to run it, just phone me. He like runs in the evenings and on the weekends. It's a side hustle. like, dude, just phone me. I'll come and I'll stand and watch you crash the machine.
00:33:57
jamie peacock
Like I don't mind. ah Until he builds confidence, I really don't mind getting my truck and driving there. It's like freaking, it's all of 10 minute drive and I'm there and get him comfortable with running the machine. But we pulled the, hu we pulled the collar truck off.
00:34:08
Curt
right
00:34:11
jamie peacock
Oh my word, it was grungy inside. um Full of four years worth of shavings. And then we pulled draw the hydraulic cylinder and draw tube out because he's going to put a 200 millimeter manual chuck on it for now.
00:34:17
Curt
ah Okay.
00:34:25
jamie peacock
So we pulled that out It's got a 67 millimeter through ball.
00:34:31
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:34:32
jamie peacock
It's freaking huge.
00:34:33
jamie peacock
Look.
00:34:33
Curt
that's a Yeah, that's big.
00:34:34
Curt
and Yeah, that's big for sure.
00:34:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, ah but I need to get a cable for this thing. I stole the cable and I yeah don't have one.
00:34:39
Curt
Yeah, yeah. Oh. Oh, I have mine here. Here, like that.
00:34:44
jamie peacock
Do the maths Kurt.
00:34:46
Curt
ooh it beeped ooh it's beeping ooh interesting and in my headphones just turning on and off ah yeah so 67mm is yeah two and just over two and a half inches
00:34:48
jamie peacock
beeping oh oh when you plugged in okay 67 yeah
00:34:59
jamie peacock
yeah it's a freaking giant ball like that machine's a tank so he's putting a turn i designed all the adapters because uh china refuses to send me an a2-5 adapter
00:35:01
Curt
yeah
00:35:12
Curt
Is it because ah you're, I don't know. Why won't they send it to you?
00:35:16
jamie peacock
I don't know.
00:35:17
Curt
Oh, they just.
00:35:17
jamie peacock
So I had one turned round. Then I'm like, okay, cool.
00:35:20
Curt
Right.
00:35:21
jamie peacock
If I can issue a refund, um ordered another one. A week and half later, it got turned round as well. Issued a refund. Trying order a third one. And the seller emailed me or messaged me on Aliexpress. It's like, hey, sorry, we're out of stock. Can you please cancel order?
00:35:39
jamie peacock
I'm like, what the fuck?
00:35:39
Curt
Hmm.
00:35:40
jamie peacock
So I'm a little concerned about making one because of the It's a dual contact taper. So it's the face and it's also the...
00:35:48
Curt
okay
00:35:49
jamie peacock
So the stupid plan I've come up with is to bore that taper or bore it square. So we'll have a flat face. Square bore at I think A2-6 is 106 point something millimeters in diameter, the bottom of the taper.
00:36:07
jamie peacock
We're going to go to 107 and just going to put an O-ring in the end. So when you put it on and you tighten it, the O-ring will compress it. It should get you pretty concentric and then you can just tap it in as you tighten it. It'll be fine.
00:36:18
Curt
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:19
jamie peacock
It's got a few kilowatts going through. It'll be okay. So yeah, we're making three of those now. One for Bertha, one for Spindokta, and one for Spinderella.
00:36:27
Curt
Oh, nice, okay, yeah.
00:36:28
jamie peacock
Yeah, Commissioner's actually going to turn them, the guy bought Bertha, on his manual lady. He's going to blank them out for us. Then I'll bring them here, put them in soft jaws, and poke all the required holes in for all of us. And then we'll put them in, and we'll turn will'll indicate them, skim the OD, turn in the locating boss for the chucks, so it's all done in situ and will be as true as possible.
00:36:51
jamie peacock
The nice thing with the... a2 spindles is they've got a drive dog so it can only go in one way it's got a drive pin so it'll only be able to fit one way so your concentricity should be better than if it could index so yeah that that is the plan for the coming weeks uh to make all the adapters ever look well it's almost goingnna be a little bit cheaper as well surprisingly
00:36:58
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:37:05
Curt
Right.
00:37:12
Curt
I mean, bummer that you have to, but at least you have a way around it still.
00:37:18
jamie peacock
We're to make them out of EN19 condition T, like decent steel.
00:37:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:22
jamie peacock
So nice and hard, but yeah. That's, uh, commercial will do the, the blank of the turning, then I'll do the milling, and then we'll do the final turning on the, on the machines that they're going on. Because, yeah, he wants to put a, yeah.
00:37:33
Curt
are you are you so Are you going to harden them, or are you just running them just as hard they are?
00:37:37
jamie peacock
Nah, just as hot as they are.
00:37:38
Curt
Okay.
00:37:39
jamie peacock
It's a decent quality steel.
00:37:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:41
jamie peacock
Like, I'm not, I'm not too phased that it's going to wear out. There's fun while touching it. Um, and if it does wear out, you just make another one.
00:37:46
Curt
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true.
00:37:49
Curt
Yeah, let's advantage that for sure, yeah.
00:37:49
jamie peacock
But i yeah, like the material is probably going to be $15, $20 each. It's not a huge amount of material. And then, yeah, blanking them out is like half an hour's worth work.
00:38:02
jamie peacock
And milling them is another half of an hour. Just make another one. It's not the end of the world.
00:38:07
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:38:08
Curt
Sick.
00:38:09
jamie peacock
um Ooh, okay. We'll come back to your last topic. Let's first talk about the mulligans on your orders.
00:38:14
Curt
ah Fuck him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so ah like I said last week, I had a password leak. bunch people got things. So I sent out an email to basically everybody that got a password.
00:38:26
Curt
I sent another email and be like, hey, if you got cart sniped, like that's that shouldn't happen on a lottery. It kind of defeats the purpose of a lottery when you can't buy. So I sent out an email saying like, anybody that wants, just shoot me back. So like I got a gang of emails now. So unfortunately, i think like the next batch is basically sold, which is which is lovely for me. Yeah.
00:38:45
Curt
So, yeah, i was it it was good. It was good to get everybody because a ton of people didn't actually message me. Then when I sent them an email, they're like, hey, they're like, yeah, I thought that was weird.
00:38:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:38:53
Curt
So they're like, thanks for sending us. I was like, okay, cool. I feel better. like I feel the whole customer service aspect feels better as opposed to someone just being like, well, I guess, I don't know, whatever, the like just kind of losing faith in it.
00:38:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:04
Curt
So that felt nice. um
00:39:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:06
Curt
But i I've basically just gave myself a lot more work now. So that's not a problem. not Never a problem. I can't bitch about it.
00:39:13
jamie peacock
Yeah, you were trying to knock down your lotto list, though.
00:39:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:15
jamie peacock
So that's the only issue
00:39:17
Curt
Yeah, it's kind of stagnant. um I can also cross-check all the people that like kind of wrongfully purchased.
00:39:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:22
Curt
I can cross-check their emails and plug it into the list and kill them off the list.
00:39:23
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:39:26
Curt
So it's kind of like people were like, oh, that isn't fair.
00:39:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:28
Curt
I'm like, well, technically those people were on the list, most of them. And now they're just getting removed off the list.
00:39:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:34
Curt
Kind of. So it's like not removed, but like ah selected as purchase.
00:39:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:37
Curt
It works out. It's just not ideal, but.
00:39:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, just ideal, yeah.
00:39:42
Curt
Yeah, best I can do in this situation. So until I find a simpler, better option, just, yeah.
00:39:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, exactly.
00:39:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:50
Curt
Bigger.
00:39:50
jamie peacock
That's, yeah, a bit of a
00:39:51
Curt
Bigger production. ah
00:39:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, that's a thing, but also limited manpower.
00:39:57
Curt
Limited manpower, but yeah, like it's, yeah, I got, i don't know. this i some of Who sent me that? still there's still I still have a fusion model of like a nice, like, because I do so much like polishing of parts.
00:40:07
Curt
Someone sent me a fusion model of, ah that they're working on like, um
00:40:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:13
Curt
ah like a centerless grinder to do centerless grinding.
00:40:15
jamie peacock
Ooh.
00:40:16
Curt
So yeah, i was like, or centerless sanding, if you want to think of it that way.
00:40:18
jamie peacock
Qualishing, yeah.
00:40:20
Curt
Yeah, so I was like, ooh, I still got open that and look at I haven't even looked at it. And so I appreciate you. Yeah, I think you're a listener to the podcast. I appreciate you sending it to me. I'm sorry, I haven't spent time looking at it.
00:40:30
jamie peacock
looked at it yet.
00:40:32
jamie peacock
yeah I've actually, so speaking of polishing things, I've got the fuck, what call them? The Dutchman's Squeeze Boxes. ah
00:40:32
Curt
feel like a jerk.
00:40:41
Curt
Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:40:42
jamie peacock
Yeah, those guys coming past this weekend, they want me to make some aluminium buttons for them.
00:40:47
jamie peacock
for the they want make 1000 buttons.
00:40:48
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:40:48
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:40:50
jamie peacock
So they're coming past and we're gonna see what I can do for them that might require polishing stuff. But I think if I tumble them through all the different medias, I can get a pretty good finish that'll polish up pretty quickly for them.
00:41:05
jamie peacock
So it should be to be somewhat interesting.
00:41:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:07
jamie peacock
But yeah, hand finishing you.
00:41:08
Curt
Oh. It was Fabtastic. Fabtastic sent to me. So thank you very much, Feinster.
00:41:11
jamie peacock
Okay, Luke,
00:41:13
Curt
I think I've imported it into Fusion and just ah haven't even given it the time of the day.
00:41:16
jamie peacock
Send me a copy of that, please.
00:41:18
Curt
Absolutely. Yeah, he sent it to me in May.
00:41:20
jamie peacock
Because if it's not...
00:41:20
Curt
So it's been been been a spell.
00:41:21
jamie peacock
Oh, jeez, okay. If it's not, like, I'm assuming... Well, yeah, send it to me. Let me have look at it. It might be something that I can knock out for you quickly if you want.
00:41:30
Curt
I think it's just basically the concept. I don't think it's like an actual...
00:41:33
jamie peacock
okay.
00:41:34
Curt
Yeah, you know what? While we're while we're chatting, I can open it.
00:41:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, wait, hang on. What we do is we do this, which is going to mess with Dylan, which is great.
00:41:39
Curt
On the podcast. Googling, Googling on the podcast.
00:41:44
jamie peacock
ah Did you listen to the new Within Tolerance?
00:41:48
Curt
ah i
00:41:49
jamie peacock
With Devin Lippadoni.
00:41:51
Curt
Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. yeah i'm through I'm like 90% of the way through.
00:41:53
jamie peacock
I'm pretty sure was that podcast where they referenced you where you tend to work for three weeks of the month and then prototype for the other. It was either there or some other podcast.
00:42:02
Curt
Oh, yeah?
00:42:03
jamie peacock
Someone referenced you in your Within Tolerance episode, but I can't remember where it was because I've been listening to a shitload of podcasts.
00:42:06
Curt
Oh, cool. Ooh. Ooh, I feel special. Oh, right on.
00:42:12
jamie peacock
yeah um speaking of awesome podcasts while you open your google um there's a new podcast out by nathan fullion and uh alec turen from firefly called once we were spacemen dude wasn't dude i'm in was in stitches today listening to the first episode
00:42:24
Curt
Okay.
00:42:27
Curt
Oh. Oh, i didn't know it' was from Firefly.
00:42:34
Curt
ah really?
00:42:34
jamie peacock
It's basically them. Yeah. Like, it's just them talking about the movie the TV and movie industry and whatnot. And having, yeah, it's going to be good. It's going to be really good. Like, this episode, they were just talking about, like, how they met and whatnot.
00:42:45
Curt
I love...
00:42:48
jamie peacock
Dude, worth a listen. I was in stitches laughing at these two. Because I enjoy both of those actors.
00:42:53
Curt
Oh, I love it.
00:42:54
jamie peacock
So, yeah, really, really good.
00:42:55
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:42:56
jamie peacock
And they're going to have a bunch of people on that, other actors and things that like, mostly sci-fi related.
00:43:04
Curt
Yeah, yeah,
00:43:04
jamie peacock
Yeah, so figured you might enjoy that. It's called Once We Were Spacemen.
00:43:08
Curt
yeah. Oh, I love the Firefly series. Yeah.
00:43:10
jamie peacock
I do, Firefly's great. Like, that's where they actually became friends. They had met before that, and the story of that is freaking hilarious.
00:43:14
Curt
Oh, OK.
00:43:18
jamie peacock
oh So, yeah, the the episode's really good, very well produced as well.
00:43:23
Curt
Nice. Okay. i so Sorry, I finally opened the centerless grinder dealio here. I will send it to you. I will link the fusion link to you, Mr. Jamie. I'm not going it in the show notes. I don't know if Mr.
00:43:34
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, that's fine.
00:43:34
Curt
Fabtastic is cool with me sharing it to the world, um but I'm going to share it to Jamie. So if you're mad about that, Mr. Fabtastic, I'm terribly sorry. But yeah.
00:43:40
jamie peacock
I probably sent it if I lost.
00:43:43
Curt
And yeah, if you if you if you if you're cool with sharing with the world, ah'll let me know and I'll put it in next next week's show notes. it's ah That's cool looking and little little design. So anyways.
00:43:51
jamie peacock
So I was Googling how to make lathe chuck adapters.
00:43:58
Curt
Okay, because that's what you're obviously doing nowadays, yeah.
00:44:00
jamie peacock
Yes. And guess what video came up?
00:44:01
Curt
Uh-oh.
00:44:06
jamie peacock
Yes, part four or five of Kurt's concrete lathe.
00:44:10
Curt
Oh, don't listen to that guy.
00:44:10
jamie peacock
So I ended up...
00:44:11
Curt
He doesn't know shit about that.
00:44:12
jamie peacock
Dude! Yeah, it's actually, it's really entertaining listening to, even like listening to myself from back then. Like if I go look at some of the flight test videos and things I did back then, it's like, wow.
00:44:23
jamie peacock
ah But yeah, was it's been very entertaining to watch.
00:44:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:27
Curt
ah Thanks, man.
00:44:27
jamie peacock
Like making your toolposts.
00:44:28
Curt
Yeah, I think I...
00:44:29
jamie peacock
It's like, I don't want ship it, so I'm trying get it perfect. I had to ship it. And I'm like, that's like a brilliant.
00:44:32
Curt
ah Yeah, like...
00:44:35
jamie peacock
But yeah, that machine was a big chunk of concrete.
00:44:39
Curt
It was a big chunk of concrete. It taught me a lot, and it was it was actually decent, but yeah, it was it was so...
00:44:41
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, that's it.
00:44:44
Curt
i had ah I had a secondary... so I think I actually uploaded the finalized design to Instructables. where I had like, I was going to make um like my own linear guides um for the rails essentially and to make it work better.
00:44:51
jamie peacock
Oh, nice.
00:44:55
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:44:57
Curt
And like I had them all machined out of aluminum and like, ah yeah, it was still, it would have still been chattery as hell, but was, it was fun.
00:45:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's never going to be as rigid as a proper machine. But yeah, that was back in our youth.
00:45:08
Curt
No. Back in our youth.
00:45:11
jamie peacock
Yeah. now
00:45:12
Curt
Doesn't even feel long ago. It feels like last week.
00:45:14
jamie peacock
ah That is the freaking thing. Well, I realized last week, i don't I don't think I mentioned on the podcast, but I have worked for myself longer than I had a job.
00:45:25
Curt
Oh, cool. That's cool.
00:45:26
jamie peacock
Because I had a job for a year at one place and just shy of six years at another place. And we just rolled into so year seven of me being full-time JSpec.
00:45:34
Curt
Oh, that's cool. That's cool, man.
00:45:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, i was like, that's f freaking cool. Like, I've literally been self-slash unemployed for as long as ah have um ever had a job.
00:45:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:46
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, kind of weird.
00:45:48
Curt
So it's it's working. You haven't died yet. like You're making it work, which is which is a cool feeling.
00:45:51
jamie peacock
Yes, making it work.
00:45:53
jamie peacock
Stressful as fuck, but making it work.
00:45:53
Curt
yeah
00:45:56
Curt
Stressful as fuck, but at least it's, yeah, it's, i don't know.
00:45:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's my own stress.
00:45:58
Curt
We only get so much on this frickin' world. Like, yeah, play your play your own games. Do what you want, folks.
00:46:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly.
00:46:04
Curt
You're gonna die soon.
00:46:04
jamie peacock
That's, that's it.
00:46:05
Curt
Oh,
00:46:06
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, exactly. Uh, flip. So yeah, um, the Tufnel order's back.
00:46:14
Curt
yeah, the stinky tufnel?
00:46:16
jamie peacock
they paid the deposit today. Yay, I get to ruin my coolants again. So yeah, that's got to be out by the end of the month. Four sets, but I need to phone Roger tomorrow who doesn't to our podcast anymore because he doesn't listen to podcasts anymore because he's busy because there's been design changes to one of the parts.
00:46:22
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:46:28
Curt
Ooh. Ooh. Yeah,
00:46:31
jamie peacock
So want to get everything else done and then that one lost. And I might just throw it at Toolbox and see what happens.
00:46:38
Curt
yeah.
00:46:38
jamie peacock
Because speaking of those guys, a it's full of magic. Once you dial it in, it's full of magic. um I threw a part at it. um So my workflow tends to be I will do these setups with the material that I have, like so I can define material size.
00:46:57
jamie peacock
No toolpath, just off the toolpath, off back, exactly how I would have machined it.
00:47:03
Curt
Oh, that's cool. That's cool.
00:47:04
jamie peacock
And then I went to the estimates tab. And obviously, I've configured my estimates to be correct material price, correct shop rates, all that stuff. Spat out the exact figure I was looking for.
00:47:15
Curt
Really? That's cool.
00:47:16
jamie peacock
exactly where I was going to quote the job. So yeah, very, very happy with that. I'm going to be throwing more stuff at it. ah There's a community call with them every Thursday. So I'm going to hop on that this week and be like, hey guys, this shit ain't fucked.
00:47:25
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:47:29
jamie peacock
um And yeah. as it ah So ah did get screwed around by a little bit. I actually chatted to Justin about this.
00:47:36
jamie peacock
Where I was doing a mag base, sent it to toolpath, brought it back, machined one, oh, need to adjust the size, adjusted the size, regenerated toolpaths,
00:47:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:36
Curt
Oh.
00:47:45
jamie peacock
sent to the machine size hasn't adjusted. What the hell? Maybe I didn't post it post it again, machine a third one, still the exact same size. but What the fuck's going on? Then I go look at the tool bar.
00:47:57
jamie peacock
And the way it's done. Yeah, the way it constrains its its two bots is really clever and really dumb and really clever. So more clever than dumb. But it's in so the model, the model goes to tool bar tool bar generates sketches of the model and constrains the tool parts with sketches.
00:48:14
jamie peacock
So if you go and you tweak something, you need to delete the toolpaths, send it back toolpath and bring it back down so that it can generate new geometry.
00:48:15
Curt
Okay.
00:48:22
Curt
Oh, I see.
00:48:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, took me took me four attempts to figure that out.
00:48:24
Curt
I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:27
jamie peacock
But like I was trying to adjust it. like, yeah, it's a bit of a weird one to change your workflow, to just delete and regenerate. But I'm like, fair enough. I understand why it happened, and I'm fine with why it happened. I just gone and tweaked a bunch of shit in there because I was in a rush.
00:48:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:41
jamie peacock
So know it's it was interesting. But yeah, getting more and more into that workflow and yeah, working very hard to justify toolpath.
00:48:44
Curt
That's cool.
00:48:50
jamie peacock
Because it's not at our shop right here, it's a fucking difficult one to justify. But I'm working on justifying it.
00:48:50
Curt
Yeah, that's cool.
00:48:59
Curt
Sure.
00:49:01
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, the one of the yeah chatting to Ben about it, and you're saying you're one of the customers are you sending this only has to save me 11 hours a year?
00:49:01
Curt
Sure, sure.
00:49:09
jamie peacock
to justify it. And I'm like, yeah, that's closer to 60 for me. With our current shop rates, as to it has to save me 60 hours a year for it to be worthwhile.
00:49:15
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:49:21
jamie peacock
But I'm pretty sure it's going to do that.
00:49:24
Curt
Well, I mean, honestly, with that slogan, you could probably sell that slogan a Toolpath of that you just came up with. Toolpath, this shit isn't fucked. I'm sure they could use that. That's probably worth something to them.
00:49:32
jamie peacock
I know, don't worry. I said that in the meeting with because the community meetings got all the the like L's in there, a bunch of the guys in there.
00:49:35
Curt
Right.
00:49:41
jamie peacock
And I'm like, don't worry, I've got some parts that I'm planning next week.
00:49:41
Curt
Right.
00:49:44
jamie peacock
I was like, why are you doing the evil hands? I'm like, don't worry, you'll find out.
00:49:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:48
jamie peacock
Because I'm not going to just give it easy parts. I'm gonna give it the dumbest shit I can think of and see what it does. And I don't expect it to get it right first time. And when it does, awesome. But yeah, like, there's been quite a lot of dialing in the tool libraries, and the presets and all that stuff to get it to do what I want it to do.
00:49:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:06
jamie peacock
But yeah, it's getting closer every week. And I've been there. I've been with them for just over a month now. And the the software has changed significantly in that month.
00:50:19
Curt
That's good.
00:50:19
jamie peacock
the urs The UI is upgraded, there's better cut configs like no, dude, yeah, it's really sweet.
00:50:19
Curt
They're iterating on it hard. Yeah.
00:50:24
jamie peacock
talk I can't say enough good things about them. don't want to sound like an ad, but dude, yeah. Like for your case, you program a thing once a year, but for job shopping type stuff, it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:36
Curt
absolutely yeah you know ah you know i' do i'm gonna get you a neon sign um like you said if it's rather expensive for in your neck of the woods we'll get you a big neon sign that you can put behind the podcast it just says like buy toolpath now and and we'll have it on every show and we'll we'll spend like 45 minutes every show just slinging it until yeah not that's cool i like talking about things that are legitimately cool in the industry and that like legitimately work and
00:50:41
jamie peacock
yeah
00:50:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, there we go. I'll sponsor it. I like this plan.
00:50:59
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. like, since since I heard about it, I'm like, okay, cool. Like, even at IMTS, I'm like, cool. I don't think it's for me. I don't quote enough parts to justify it.
00:51:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:09
jamie peacock
And at that time, it was just a quoting software. It's since IMTS that they've rolled out the actual CAD cam side of it, or the cam side.
00:51:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:17
jamie peacock
Dude, for me, it takes the mental inertia out of making a part. Because to have a model and to have a model to machine, that's the bit.
00:51:22
Curt
That's the point, yeah.
00:51:25
jamie peacock
The model to machine is what kills me. It's not because it takes long. It's not because it's difficult. It's because in my mind, it's a huge task. Now just, tool part, bring back, send it.
00:51:33
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:35
jamie peacock
And yeah, it cuts that that out for me. So yeah, I like it.
00:51:41
Curt
Well, that's the way. Think 10, 20 years in the future, like one of those services, toolpath kind of like services, is going to is going to take.
00:51:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. 100%.
00:51:51
jamie peacock
ah hundred percent
00:51:51
Curt
like Because why are we doing this?
00:51:53
Curt
Robots could do it so much better.
00:51:53
jamie peacock
like Exactly.
00:51:54
Curt
but yeah Yeah, for sure.
00:51:54
jamie peacock
yeah Exactly. Like the, yeah, one of the guys on the community thing was like, it goes, like he's forcing it to do five access, which it doesn't really want to do. But like to program a good five access toolpath, let's say it's a hand like on a part, it's 150 clicks.
00:52:03
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:52:08
jamie peacock
Toolpath's making it that it's only 60 clicks for him.
00:52:12
Curt
Totally.
00:52:12
jamie peacock
And that's it.
00:52:12
Curt
Yeah, yeah. Yep.
00:52:13
jamie peacock
It doesn't need to get me 100% there. If it can get me 90% there, I'm happy. Like I don't need it to do everything.
00:52:18
Curt
yeah
00:52:19
jamie peacock
I just want to get the stupid shit done.
00:52:22
jamie peacock
No, no, no.
00:52:22
Curt
Yeah, that's why I don't program on the machine anymore.
00:52:24
Curt
That's why I program through a cam kernel because it does the stupid part.
00:52:25
jamie peacock
Well, no shit. No one programs on the machine.
00:52:31
Curt
But I guarantee you, rewind 50 years, or maybe not 50 years, 30 years, people would be like, you can never get a clean toolpath as you can drawing out of the control.
00:52:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:37
Curt
It's like, yeah, you probably can't, but I can also do 100 times what you can do. And it's like, that's all I want.
00:52:42
jamie peacock
Yeah. And that by the time you've typed it into your controller, I've already run four bots.
00:52:46
Curt
Absolutely.
00:52:46
jamie peacock
Like, yeah.
00:52:47
Curt
Yeah, absolutely.
00:52:48
jamie peacock
No, the amount of that shit that still goes on is kind of kind of insane.
00:52:53
Curt
Yeah, um I'm waiting for like toolpath or whatever service to get to the point where like I can feed it like my toolpaths be like, these are the decorative toolpaths I use.
00:52:53
jamie peacock
but yeah i'm not You can literally do that now.
00:53:00
Curt
Like I need this. I want these cusp heights. I want this. And then let me save those as kind of presets of like, this is my finishing surface. This is what I want it to look like. I don't want it to be geometrically accurate. I want to look like this.
00:53:12
Curt
And then like, that's not far off. Like, oh, really? Interesting.
00:53:18
jamie peacock
Yes, it requires setting up different cut configs, but it can be done.
00:53:18
Curt
Okay.
00:53:22
jamie peacock
Like the ultimate toolpath is get rid of your Fusion library.
00:53:27
jamie peacock
Like, their CutConfig is better than the Fusion library, and it exports the tools back to Fusion. So, because Fusion makes a duplicate of your tool in every for every file, just have it properly set up in Toolpath, and it'll send it back over.
00:53:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:36
Curt
yeah
00:53:44
jamie peacock
So, like, I've still got my libraries in Fusion, but then I've got a Toolpath library that only has basically my core tools in it, so that i don't it doesn't try and surface with some tool that doesn't live in my machine.
00:53:57
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense.
00:53:58
jamie peacock
I actually got programmed, I needed to program an adapter for the last week for the frigging the Blisk. I needed to make the fixture and I pushed it to toolpath and then it wouldn't import because Fusion was dumbing.
00:54:15
jamie peacock
So I ended up programming it manually. And then I got on a service call that evening, got it sorted. When I pulled it in, guess what? It did exactly what I did.
00:54:24
jamie peacock
The only thing it didn't do was the thing I forbid it from doing because it did it to me once.
00:54:24
Curt
cool.
00:54:24
Curt
That's cool.
00:54:29
jamie peacock
It surfaced with my roughing end mill because it has a corner radius. It sees it was allowed, so I disallowed it.
00:54:33
Curt
Right. Hmm.
00:54:35
jamie peacock
But that was the only thing it did differently. Everything else was literally the same toolpath that I had programmed. So yeah, it's it's good once you've got your cut configs done. So yeah, sort your cut configs out and then it just freaking works.
00:54:48
jamie peacock
Turns out it also won't chamfer if you don't have a chamfer mill. I've always just set up my chamfer mills as NC spotting drills, and then i'll just chamfer with them. And it needs a chamfer mill configured.
00:54:57
Curt
totally
00:54:59
jamie peacock
And once that's done, they've now, this this week, they pushed out the chamfering, effectively the same as Fusion, the what's effectively known as the magic chamfer tool. where it will also detect there's an intersection.
00:55:12
jamie peacock
So now it tells you there's a deviation from your model because you can chamfer to a corner infusion. So there's a deviation.
00:55:17
Curt
Sure.
00:55:17
jamie peacock
it'll ah just It just handles it all now. And every week there's more stuff that they're pushing out.
00:55:21
Curt
Sick.
00:55:22
jamie peacock
it's quite yeah It's sick. Anyway, enough advertising for Toolpath. um Okay, we're going to do my last one and then we're going to do your awesome topic.
00:55:27
Curt
As they pull their end mills out of our mouths and.
00:55:31
jamie peacock
And then we actually have questions from last week still. So this might go a bit long.
00:55:33
Curt
Goo.
00:55:35
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, the anodizers didn't scrap my parts.
00:55:38
Curt
Yay. What did you send him?
00:55:39
jamie peacock
Yeah, ah magnetic holsters. So i wanted them matte gray, matte black.
00:55:43
Curt
Okay. Mm hmm.
00:55:44
jamie peacock
And dude, the anna is so good.
00:55:47
jamie peacock
It's almost like they know I'm a picky dickhead. um Last time they did them, there were runs i ended up coloring in someone with a sharpie. These ones are all perfect so far. So I need to just tap and assemble those and then get them off to the customer. So they've got to be lasered, tapped, assembled, and then yeah they can go out.
00:55:47
Curt
o
00:56:06
jamie peacock
But yeah, they they they didn't fuck it up.
00:56:06
Curt
Oh, sick.
00:56:06
Curt
Cool.
00:56:08
jamie peacock
I'm quite impressed.
00:56:09
Curt
Oh, that's exciting.
00:56:11
jamie peacock
Because even the magazine gauges I'm making are going to them for anodizer as well, because I don't feel like anodizing them.
00:56:11
Curt
That's exciting.
00:56:17
jamie peacock
So they'll go there for like a matte or, I don't it depends how good they look.
00:56:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:20
jamie peacock
They might just go for a straight up electro-polished blue, and then we'll laser engrave in them afterwards. but are making holsters for the competition shooting, or not holsters, gauges for the competition shooting guys, because your magazine length is limited,
00:56:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:34
jamie peacock
your your magwell width is limited, and the gun has to be two inches off the body. So it's a gauge that does all these things.
00:56:43
Curt
Oh, I see. OK, cool.
00:56:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, dumb stuff, but I like dumb stuff.
00:56:47
Curt
yeah Yeah, for sure.
00:56:47
jamie peacock
It's fun.
00:56:49
Curt
Cool, man.
00:56:49
jamie peacock
So, tell me about your nightmare for next year's release. Ha
CAD Model Challenges and Solutions
00:56:54
Curt
Oh, well, that's going to be it. Yeah, because I'm running out of serial numbers. So I decided this weekend I better finish the CAD model for my ClickPen, which is really cool. And if I had my screen sharing set up properly, I would flip to my Fusion tab, but I don't right now. um So um it's ah I think it's going to work.
00:56:56
jamie peacock
ha.
00:57:08
Curt
like yeah On the CAD model, everything looks like it should work just fine. um But the clip is going to be a fucking nightmare to machine. It basically is the same as like ah Grimsmo's kind of clip, if you want to think of it that way.
00:57:19
Curt
ah
00:57:20
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:20
Curt
So it's like my standard my standard pocket clip that just whatever looks like this. um But instead of bolt, I can't ah can't put a bolt through there because there's mechanisms in here. So the only way I can do it is to have this part be integral with like a ring around it.
00:57:32
Curt
So almost exactly like how Grimsmo is doing So you have basically a billet pocket clip with a ring.
00:57:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:39
Curt
I mean, it's going to be cut from round bar because...
00:57:39
jamie peacock
CX is live to live.
00:57:41
Curt
Yeah, basically. um It's going to be cut from round bar because round bar is so much cheaper than flat bar.
00:57:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:47
Curt
um And then I can just minimize the amount of things I have to order. um But to like hold, I think I can, I'm going to have to do it in the mill, obviously. I don't want to do it in the fourth because I want to be able to like batch a bunch of them.
00:57:57
jamie peacock
batchy Azure.
00:57:58
Curt
Yeah, like I could put them in the fourth for sure and machine it in one setup, but it's like, then I have to, I can only do one at a time. And like, it's not a long enough cycle where it's like, I mean, maybe it will be if I put enough cycles.
00:58:08
jamie peacock
I have some thoughts.
00:58:10
Curt
I'm curious to hear him. um But yeah, I think I can, I think I can put them on like basically like a, the first off is easy.
00:58:12
jamie peacock
I have some thoughts, but yeah.
00:58:16
Curt
It's just going to do the tops. And then I think i'm going to lay them down with like basically blocks, kind of like, ah kind of like five C call it blocks almost where you can lay a bunch of them and then you can index them to to the other sides.
00:58:25
jamie peacock
Okay. I have a plan to not index.
00:58:27
Curt
I think that's going to do. I don't know how I'm going to, I don't know exactly going machine it yet. I still kind of have to start drawing up the cam and just seeing how I can access Cause I've, of course I've made every side of fucking curve.
00:58:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:58:37
Curt
There's the, like nothing is like everything is, has a radius on it.
00:58:38
jamie peacock
That seems out of character.
00:58:42
Curt
All the flat spots are now gone. I just, I want to make it look more modern and I want to make it look like it wasn't machined, which is always the hardest things to machine to make something look not machined.
00:58:45
jamie peacock
Yeah. yeah
00:58:51
Curt
And like organic curves. So it's like, okay, everything is surface. Every side is surface. So yeah, it's going to be. And then like of course, like the round part, I want it smooth.
00:58:56
jamie peacock
I have a stupid plan.
00:58:59
Curt
i want to faceted. So I might turn that part. I don't even know what I'm to do yet So, but yeah, which is stupid plan.
00:59:02
jamie peacock
I have a stupid plan, Kurt.
00:59:05
Curt
I'm curious.
00:59:05
jamie peacock
Okay, so yeah, my thought is you turn the OD, you turn your ID where your where it's going to interface with the pen.
00:59:11
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:17
jamie peacock
So yeah, you turn that section and if you can you bore the whole thing out. um
00:59:21
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:21
jamie peacock
Or most of it out, then you put it on to a expanding mandrel.
00:59:26
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:59:27
jamie peacock
with the bottom of the, where the pocket clip actually will be on the bottom, resting against a matched surface.
00:59:35
Curt
Right.
00:59:35
jamie peacock
You come in from above and you fucking surface everything. Machine it all away.
00:59:41
Curt
Okay.
00:59:42
jamie peacock
And then you can 3D surface the backside of the clip because it's facing the sky.
00:59:45
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:59:46
jamie peacock
Do all your shit in there.
00:59:46
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:59:47
jamie peacock
You've got a beautiful turned OD. So it's all smooth on the outside. And then you could do in one op.
00:59:53
Curt
h
00:59:54
jamie peacock
And then obviously if you want to engrave around it or whatever, you could put it in the fourth because that's a quick operation.
00:59:59
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. I got to wrap my head.
01:00:00
jamie peacock
That could be ah it could be an interesting workflow to attempt.
01:00:05
Curt
Yeah, I think I'm goingnna I'll drop up some things and i'm probably actually going to pick your brain on it because it's always curious to hear someone else who programs a lot more fucking parts than I do to be like, oh, don't do it that way.
01:00:11
jamie peacock
wall Well, it's also the case of you ask 10 machinists how to do something, you'll get 11 answers. Like...
01:00:19
Curt
Oh, 100%. 100%. Yeah.
01:00:20
jamie peacock
Just thinking, so in my mind, how can I do this with the least number of setups?
01:00:21
Curt
It's like, why you doing
01:00:25
jamie peacock
But then say, okay, you want surface everywhere. So then my thought was, was going to say mount it sideways and just use the side of the end mill to do the inside of the clip. But you want it all surfaced. So then rotate it down 90 and a little bit of shenanigans, you could make that work.
01:00:35
Curt
Yeah. Well, then I...
01:00:41
Curt
And I also want, like... I'm starting to realize why Grimmsmo does things the way he does. Because I want, like... There are certain places where I want the toolpaths to be visible. But I also want the visible toolpaths to basically...
01:00:49
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:00:52
Curt
not They don't have to line up. But, like, there's going to be defined spots where they change. Because that's the orientation change in the machine.
01:00:57
jamie peacock
Yes. Yeah. Yes.
01:00:58
Curt
But you could hide... you can hide the basically orientation change instead of trying to like, like pretend you were trying to make like, you know, a four axis surface or five axis surface part with like ah a groove all around.
01:01:05
jamie peacock
yeah
01:01:07
Curt
it' It'd be a nightmare because like trying to get a line to work in multiple setups is hard. But if you deliberately make like cuts or like, you know, geometric feature changes, you can hide that really easily.
01:01:19
jamie peacock
Well, yes, I know all about this.
01:01:19
Curt
So.
01:01:21
jamie peacock
That's why the top of anchor point is crosshatched so that I don't have to make a smooth surface.
01:01:24
Curt
so Right.
01:01:26
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, it's designed for manufacturing.
01:01:26
Curt
Absolutely. Exactly. Exactly. And it looks, and you look at it and you're like, yeah, and it's beautiful.
01:01:31
jamie peacock
Like it's purposeful. Yeah.
01:01:34
Curt
And the regular customer wouldn't realize that until you're like, if you look at it with an objective eye, you're like, oh you did that to hide this.
01:01:37
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:40
Curt
And they're like, oh, a smart little cookie.
01:01:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:43
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:43
jamie peacock
No, that's the thing. There's a million ways to solve the problem. So yeah, when when you're ready, we'll have a chat about that because I think you could do it in a lathe op and a mill op and then yeah, some decorative shit on the fourth maybe.
01:01:48
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:58
jamie peacock
If you want to like wrap text or something, you do that last because then it's a short operation.
01:01:58
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:04
jamie peacock
It's not roughing everything away.
01:02:07
Curt
I will set my screen share up so that in the after show I can briefly show you and you can chastise me.
01:02:10
jamie peacock
Okay, cool.
01:02:11
Curt
This will be perfect.
01:02:11
jamie peacock
No, that's fine. and don't know if you saw that. I'll put something in the after after show notes that we can discuss if you're keen.
01:02:18
Curt
Oh, of course, of course.
01:02:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, because I'm curious. just i'm I'm curious why.
01:02:21
Curt
Oh.
01:02:21
jamie peacock
But yeah, we'll we'll discuss that in after show if you want to share it.
01:02:24
Curt
Nice, nice, nice.
01:02:25
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:02:26
Curt
Yeah, of course.
01:02:26
jamie peacock
um
01:02:26
Curt
Anytime.
01:02:27
jamie peacock
Okay, cool. So, yeah, ah dude, I'm keen to see this this click mechanism. I guess that's one of the perks of being a patron.
01:02:32
Curt
Me too.
01:02:36
jamie peacock
You get to see it, maybe. Or just the clip, one of the two.
01:02:38
Curt
Ooh, yeah, of course. Why not? i I'll share whatever I want. I don't care. Go ahead. You want to do it?
01:02:42
jamie peacock
Just blur most of the clips.
01:02:42
Curt
Someone want to do it better and cheaper than me? I'll buy them from you. like I don't care. I'll show whatever I'm doing.
01:02:48
jamie peacock
So, last week we did a Q&A, or I did a Q&A on Instagram, and we had some questions come in after we recorded.
CNC Strategies and Toolware Monitoring
01:02:55
Curt
Hmm.
01:02:56
jamie peacock
So,
01:02:56
Curt
Yay.
01:02:57
jamie peacock
um well, just trying to figure out how to read this name. So, Dave Kerr Trails says, do you use toolware monitoring in your CNC milling machine?
01:03:10
jamie peacock
Does your controller support toolware tracking? I know I can measure tool diameter. I don't use it. know I can measure it, and I'm pretty sure there's a cycle to check if it's within tolerance.
01:03:20
Curt
I think so. Yeah.
01:03:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, ah but I don't think either of us really use it.
01:03:26
Curt
I don't think the, for me, I don't think the accuracy of checking where in the, with the check is just good.
01:03:29
jamie peacock
No.
01:03:32
jamie peacock
No, it's not going to be good enough.
01:03:32
Curt
I mean, maybe if it was like a bloom or something, yeah, maybe I would trust it.
01:03:35
jamie peacock
I know. I've tried.
01:03:37
Curt
Yeah. So yeah, I, I do know.
01:03:39
jamie peacock
Okay, speaking of milling things this week, I milled a shit ton of steel.
01:03:45
Curt
Ooh. Oh. Mm-hmm.
01:03:45
jamie peacock
And I've had endless shit with this these end mills where my little cheat sheet says I need to run them way too fast. So I ended up just messing with the overrides, went from running them at 6,900 down to 4,200 for this batch.
01:03:53
Curt
oh
01:04:00
jamie peacock
And then even still, it wasn't happy. Dropped it to 1,700 RPM.
01:04:05
jamie peacock
Same feed, I actually pushed the feed per tooth up from 0.04 to 0.06 and pushed my step over bigger. And the machine sits at like 40% spindle and it just nice and well, relatively quiet till the end mill starts dying.
01:04:17
Curt
Happy. Yeah.
01:04:20
jamie peacock
I was actually doing tool brake detect on a 10 millimeter end mill because I snapped the first one. Because that's the problem is that it was a roughing end mill. It was rough to begin with. But yeah, hogged a whole hit load of steel.
01:04:32
jamie peacock
And yeah, faster is not always better is the gist of that.
01:04:36
Curt
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
01:04:37
jamie peacock
Like I just let it let it shoot. It actually was a shorter cycle time because I was taking a bigger step over, but I was running too fast and the in-mill was bouncing. It wasn't actually cutting nicely. So yeah, bigger cutters can be better.
01:04:49
jamie peacock
Um, then Wes, um,
01:04:50
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:04:57
jamie peacock
So another great episode always interested interesting content being discussed. I have a question. What are you guys using for fourth axis programming? Do you use fusion add ons?
01:05:09
jamie peacock
I'll make different programs because i don't actually have a fourth axis. I have indexing units. So I'm a bit of a savage. umll just make different setups with different orientations and then loop the button when I need to.
01:05:20
Curt
Yeah, I do the, if I can get away with like the, the built-ins, of course I'll use them, but there's a lot of like, there's a ton that don't.
01:05:21
jamie peacock
Kurt's more fancy.
01:05:28
Curt
Um, so I, right now I, I'm not doing enough for taxes programming to justify buying the add-on. Cause like I said, it program quarterly. So I'll program three or four times a year and just run production.
01:05:37
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
01:05:40
Curt
Um, But ah I do like there's fusion as flex credits. um So you can buy like the the only problem is they expire in a year, which is fine.
01:05:50
Curt
It's still fine. So I think you can buy $500 of credits um and then you can just use them for like a 24 hour period. So think it costs you like 20 or 40 bucks a day to have the ah manufacturing add-on and then you can just like so you can have all your stuff ready to post and then just post everything during the day so if it's something like me where you're doing like minimal amounts programming a lot of production that's what i would use and then you can access all the fourth access tool paths and then they go away and then when you need them again you just spend more credits on them so don't know that's the way i would do it yeah
01:06:16
jamie peacock
On that note, protect your toolpath and then you don't have to regenerate it. Because I used 3D Debo on these mag holsters like two years ago, i used my free trial. And when I opened the file again, I quickly protected the toolpath.
01:06:30
jamie peacock
And I ran it again, posted fresh code, didn't have to regenerate the toolpath.
01:06:34
Curt
Oh, okay.
01:06:35
jamie peacock
So it didn't have an issue.
01:06:38
Curt
Oh yeah. Like, see, I, I usually save the NC files and like piecemeal them together. Cause I'm just doing so many weird things, but, um, which is dangerous as hell, but yeah, exciting.
01:06:46
jamie peacock
You mean exciting?
01:06:49
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. I run it slow the first time, whatever does it does at once it would do it a thousand times. Um,
01:06:52
jamie peacock
That's exactly it. If it didn't crash the first time, it isn't going to crash the second time.
01:06:56
Curt
Yeah, i wish I wish Fusion would strip the fourth axis out of the manufacturing extension because there' was like there's so much in the manufacturing extension
Tech Searches and Personal Life
01:07:03
Curt
that I don't need. I just need the fourth axis.
01:07:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:05
Curt
But I mean, it's also only like two grand a year, so it's not heinous. And if I was using it more than you know more than two or three times a year, I would just buy it.
01:07:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, if you're doing constant fourth-axis work, sure.
01:07:13
Curt
but
01:07:14
jamie peacock
If you've got a five-axis, you pay for it because otherwise you're just cropping about.
01:07:17
Curt
Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:21
jamie peacock
that's kind of necessary. Yeah, anyway.
01:07:24
Curt
Yeah.
01:07:25
jamie peacock
um on that, what is in your Google box, Kurt?
01:07:30
Curt
Oh, let's ah let's let's take a gander. Or you can lead if you if you have yours.
01:07:33
jamie peacock
Did you not prep it?
01:07:36
Curt
Oh, no, mine's... I'm ready. I'm ready. i have it all.
01:07:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:07:40
Curt
I have it all.
01:07:42
jamie peacock
ah yeah i'll I'll run through it first quickly because mine's all in the document.
01:07:42
Curt
ah
01:07:45
Curt
Shoot.
01:07:46
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, I've been Googling A2-5 adapters, tracking my VFD and the anchor point that will be delivered today, looking at PWM to analog dinguses because the one I have died, and once we were spacemen, there will be a link for that because that's a freaking awesome podcast.
01:07:46
Curt
Yeah, you're special.
01:08:06
Curt
I'm pumped. Check that one out.
01:08:07
jamie peacock
Yeah, dude, you're going to enjoy it.
01:08:10
Curt
Sick. I'm pumped. Um, I've been Googling, uh, like a little bit of that, um, silly Revo scan thing. Cause it's come, it's coming to be here too on Wednesday. Um, so I'm, I'm excited to try that.
01:08:19
jamie peacock
Yes.
01:08:21
Curt
That might end up scanning my lathe. Uh, cause I still kind of want to see you and see the lathe and that would be a really good use to have a nice accurate model of my entire lathe. I won't have to measure it. So it might be cool use for that. Uh, clear ABS cause you told me it exists and it does exist, which is super cool.
01:08:35
Curt
Um, local Local AI, because I talked about that last week of how i want to run local local AI for a bunch of baloney stuff. So I came across something called literally localai.io. It's ah free open AI. So don't know. I don't know anything about it yet. I'm just kind of exploring it.
01:08:52
Curt
I do like that it's ah open source. um Yeah, I'm going to definitely run the local and use it as my ah my friend to help me here with some boring ass stuff.
01:09:01
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, the clip from last week made you sound like a bit of a psychopath. It was great.
01:09:08
Curt
i don't i think i so I think I saw it. Danica prepped it and was... Yeah, I don't...
01:09:11
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, i sent them to you on WhatsApp.
01:09:15
Curt
I know and I should have posted it but I'm a bad bad podcast promoter.
01:09:16
jamie peacock
Yeah. Don't stress it. Yeah, I posted, I didn't post your one the one with you, I posted the one with me because the one with you sounded a bit psychopath-y.
01:09:26
jamie peacock
But wanting to palm off palm off your customer relations to an AR. Oh
01:09:26
Curt
Yeah, you're sounding...
01:09:33
Curt
Yours ah your sounded good. Yours was good clickbait because it was like, I flooded the world and it's like, holy shit, what's going on?
01:09:37
jamie peacock
yeah.
01:09:39
Curt
Yeah, so, but no I was...
01:09:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, I know. she we know Turns out when Danica's doing other people's podcasts, ours gets better. It's kind of cool.
01:09:46
Curt
Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, she's doing a fantastic job for not someone who's in-game paid.
01:09:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:09:50
Curt
um
01:09:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, it's freaking great.
01:09:51
Curt
Great work. Or maybe you're maybe you're paying her. I don't know how you pay each other, but...
01:09:54
jamie peacock
Nope. Well, not paying her with money.
01:09:56
Curt
I don't what that means, but whatever.
01:09:58
jamie peacock
yeah class for days on this podcast.
01:10:03
Curt
Anyway, so that's that's what I got going on here.
01:10:03
jamie peacock
Oh, geez.
01:10:05
Curt
And then a bunch of boring shipping stuff that I won't even post because it pertains to nobody but...
01:10:06
jamie peacock
Oh.
01:10:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:10:10
Curt
ah Oh, I was looking at self-centering vices because Jamie makes an anchor point and I want to populate my machine with it because every day I hate myself a little bit more and more of having to swap out soft jaws and whatnot.
01:10:14
jamie peacock
Ooh.
01:10:21
Curt
um So I was looking at getting the little self-centering and ah like the the dirt cheap but like AliExpress ones just to piss around with them.
01:10:22
jamie peacock
nice which ones from where oh i'll send you a link yeah i'll send you a link to the one the the ones that i use that i really like for op ones wouldn't trust them for op twos but for op ones they're great i'll send you i'll send you a link to those they are i feel a little bit better than the zendai ones because they're not yeah ah we'll discuss it we will discuss it in the after show
01:10:37
Curt
Yeah. No.
01:10:45
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:49
jamie peacock
because why not self center?
01:10:49
Curt
Ooh.
01:10:52
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:54
jamie peacock
I think I should get a louder keyboard.
01:10:54
Curt
That's all I need him for is just op one. Totally. Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, ah these cherry blues are not quite loud enough. I had cherry blacks and then I poured a brandy and coke into them by accident.
01:11:02
Curt
I think that's an I'm brought.
01:11:05
jamie peacock
And yeah, luckily the keyboard just a lot special.
01:11:06
Curt
Oh, bummer.
01:11:09
jamie peacock
Anyway, where can people find your you and your stuff?
01:11:11
Curt
Yeah. confounded machine.com and it links to this podcast where you can buy shirts like the one that me and jimmy we're both wearing gray sweaters and the same insert inside shirts look like psychopaths
01:11:18
jamie peacock
Like
01:11:22
jamie peacock
yep i don't know it's got holes in it my mother-in-law was poking the holes um today i was like i'm gonna have to walk funny now you just poke my holes she's like no no yeah because it's got like four or five holes in the front of it from grinding and welding because this is one of my older shirts yeah my shirts live a tough life um
01:11:26
Curt
oh mine doesn't oh
01:11:45
Curt
No kidding. How about you?
01:11:46
jamie peacock
yeah
01:11:47
Curt
Where can people find your wares?
01:11:47
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, you can find you can find the ongoing shenanigans at jspec underscore engineering on Instagram or jspeceng.com where you can find the shirts, the anchor points, the flux.
01:12:01
jamie peacock
I'm probably going another batch those at some point. Most because i like playing with the amortizing.
01:12:06
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:06
jamie peacock
But yeah, you can find us there and theloanmachinists.com for the podcast website where there's bonus content and a companion guide for all the fun words I use. It occurred to me on Friday night that I was using some language during the Discord hangout on the Taps and Patients Discord.
01:12:25
jamie peacock
And yeah, people didn't understand that. so We'll discuss that in the after show as well ah for our Patreons. I'm like on full bait mode tonight.
01:12:36
jamie peacock
What do you have to today slash tomorrow?
01:12:36
Curt
No kidding.
01:12:37
jamie peacock
well today for you, tomorrow for me. What do you have to today, Kurt?
01:12:40
Curt
Today for me, i have to finish some of the some custom orders from this last run of pens, some anodizing and whatnot. I ship those orders out, and that's about it. And then basically start. I actually might start running the lathe, run screws.
01:12:55
Curt
um Production as usual. How about you?
01:12:59
jamie peacock
Nice. I'm going to sit and wait for a VFD. Busy finishing up a bunch of pieces for the re-rollers I built. So tomorrow morning I need to quickly go get degreaser so that I can clean the parts and paint them.
01:13:12
jamie peacock
And they can bake in the oven for the day.
01:13:13
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:13:14
jamie peacock
And I can assemble. And then I need to... move shit so I get to my anodizing setup because since we rearranged the workshop like two weeks ago there's been a tumbler in my anodizing setup so that's on the list of things that needs to be rearranged because I need to tumble parts now ah that I'm machine today so yeah gonna be rearranging the workshop a little bit and running bits and bobs trying to keep the machines busy while I wait for material and other stuff but yeah that is the plan yeah anyway thank to everybody for listening
01:13:30
Curt
Mm.
01:13:42
Curt
Exciting.
01:13:45
Curt
Cool. Take care
01:13:46
jamie peacock
we will see you next, well, we'll see the Patreons up shortly, and everyone else, we'll see you next week, have a good one, and yeah, thank you for listening.
01:13:57
Curt
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