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Young Justice Season 2 Ep 15-18
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The next installment of our deep dive into Young Justice Season 2 aka Invasion continues!!
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Young Justice Season 2 Episodes 15-18 Overview
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On this edition of the Animation Deliberation podcast, we are continuing our coverage of Young Justice season 2, Invasion. This is part 4 of our coverage, episodes 15 through 18. Stay tuned for that right after these ads. You're invited to take a vacation.
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Hosts' Introduction and Podcast Escapism
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One, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of our favorite action animated series. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah, feel free to hop in there anytime zoo, you know, I can't I just don't want to be like us off Well as as you heard with the song hopefully you guys are getting familiar with it by this time and you are singing along get stuck in my head I'm glad to hear that I like to think it's catchy. But we are we are back with another edition of animation deliberation. I'm your host Jay Scotty Sinclair and as a
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as I was just having a little back and forth with the man behind the other microphone. Mr. Zuhair Ali, how are you buddy? Doing pretty well, doing pretty well, how about yourself?
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No complaints here, no complaints here. It's always kind of nice to have this show to look forward to. I usually do a first run through just to get familiar with the episodes and then I do a second watch where I soak in further details and take some notes and whatnot. But man, even when life is kind of throwing some stuff at you and you know, it can,
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No, not to get off track here too much, but the show is really just such a delight to be able to turn to and kind of escape from things. So yeah, I always look forward to watching it and having these conversations with you. So I'm doing pretty good in that regard. How about yourself?
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Can't complain? All right, well, let's go ahead and get right
Justice League on Trial
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into it. As we mentioned, this is part four of our coverage, episodes 15 through 18. And episode 15 really moves the story along in terms of some characters that we hadn't seen in quite some time. That being the Justice League, like the episode basically opens up with them on trial on Rimbour.
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So we get a host of aliens. You know, I got kind of Star Wars vibes, just the variety of aliens that I'm speaking all these different languages. You got shadowy figures in the back making dealings and whatnot. We saw the Krollotayans made mention of a bribe or something like that. And then it's, yeah, yeah. You see the members all encased in like a laser cage, but it's Superman that's kind of standing in front of the rest of them, in front of this interrogator.
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basically, you know, saying that they weren't in control of their actions and that they were manipulated by an individual called Vandal Savage. And one of the things that stuck out to me about that scene is like the interrogator asks him, why would one savage, aka human, like do this to another? And Superman's face just kind of drops and he's like, still trying to figure that out. And that's just Superman struggle. Him being a kryptonite and, you know, being the Superman, being the best version of us all.
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That's kind of his plight being on earth is, you know, seeing the best in humanity and wanting us to rise to that occasion, but us continually not doing so. So what were your takeaways from this reintroduction to the league or the missing members of the league, I should say? I mean, the struggle of the whole situation for them is that they only knew that they were on this watch list for like maybe a few hours, if not a day before they ended up on trial.
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So, yes, the events happened five years ago, but they essentially went into this blind. Like, yes, they have Icon being their intergalactic lawyer, and they have the Green Lanterns on their side, but you see that there's limits to the Lanterns' jurisdiction as well.
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So it's really difficult for them because the accusers, excuse me for my lack of courtroom terminology, but Rimbour, the accusers, they've had five years to make their case on this. Whereas the Justice League is like, we have to do the right thing and go in here and talk to these people, but we're kind of going in blind because we don't entirely know what we did.
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Yeah, that's totally fair.
Intergalactic Politics and Reach Influence
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We're so used to seeing the Justice League as this competent and confident and just sure of themselves team. It is an interesting thing to see them put in this position where they don't even know what's going on. And that is really highlighted when the rumblings of what the reach is up to on earth start to make their way through this courtroom. Like Martian Manhunter, who you would think being a galactic being
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would have some knowledge of the Reach, but he asked Jon Stewart, he's like, what is the Reach? What's going on on Earth? And that's where Jon Stewart's able to provide some context that I guess back in the day, or millennia ago, the Reach were such a conquerous species that they had to make an alliance with the Guardians to basically say, if a planet invited them,
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they were good and like basically the rest, the rest of the galaxy would back off and that was Reach territory. So the fact that Earth is in this position and Earth has willingly invited the Reach is probably making them, well, we actually, we see it spelled out on their faces. They're, they're pretty aghast and confused about what's going on. But I mean, it's, it's interesting you say that regarding, regarding Martian Manhunter, because
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he's just from Mars. He doesn't know much outside of the solar system as much as Earth does. Yeah, we only know about Krypton due to the information given off of the ship that Superman came on and the fortress of solitude and whatever.
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artifacts in this universe that Superman has access to, but their knowledge of things outside of the solar system, I think the lanterns are the only ones that really get much exposure to that. I suppose that's a fair counterpoint. And to be fair, John does fulfill the role that he's supposed to, and he has that knowledge at the ready.
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speaking of like kind of the confusion that takes place in the courtroom and then some of the murmurings that take place, there's a shadowy figure which is revealed to be Vandal Savage who was just brought up by Superman who whispers into the ear of Mongol that the reaches position on Earth puts into question who basically the fate of the entire galaxy
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And that motivates Mongol to stand up, walk down, and quickly exit. And I have to imagine Superman heard what happened with his super hearing because he just kind of gives a knowing look as Mongol exits the scene. Do you think that's the case?
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Um, uh, as they say in bingers assemble i'm gonna add a little bit of a chaser that like everyone's uh I guess intergalactic phones start going off and they get the news report that the reach have Arrived reached the reach have arrived on earth and you see the reaction of shock of um
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And even John's reaction of oh, well if the reach if earth has actually invited to reach in and the Guardians are the Green Lanterns can't even go back. Oh
Mongol's Arrival and Threat to Earth
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That's right. Yeah, that's a very interesting treaty and you see more of this Intergalactic politics happen with the discussion of the the reach trying to approach or speak to Mongol too It's like you don't have any jurisdiction. You're like you can't take over. He's like fuck you guys I'm gonna come in just because I want to and
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But yeah, I wasn't sure I didn't think about Superman using his super hearing or if it was more of like the vibe that he got like off of the power of
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Mongol because Mongol even had the dialogue with Superboy regarding like you're not the only planet that grew next to a red Sun So it's like maybe there was like an essence or energy or a vibe that Superman was just kind of like I don't like What I'm I don't I don't like what I'm getting off this guy
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Yeah, yeah, it totally could be that as well. I right after I said it, I remember that dialogue with with Superboy as well. So definitely something to make note of that he hails from a planet that has a red sun as well and speaks to his power level, which we saw on display. But and if John has like a telepathic link with the other members at this point during this dialogue and Superman heard, wouldn't he have said like, hey, that guy that we're talking about, he's in the stands right now.
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Yeah, I suppose. I mean, you would know better than I would. I'm going into this thing blind. So again, this is just... I'm not even basing this off of like, like, because I'm at that point where it's like, I haven't seen this in a while. So it's like, I'm not even sure how much I remember. So it actually is like, if Superman was aware that Vandal was chilling in the audience, like, why would he not call him out?
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yeah yeah ice ice that's fair um but we really didn't get to spend that much time with the league i mean basically as soon as mongol exits we shift our attention back to earth and the team and the thing to that is worth mentioning is like mongol didn't speak at all at this point at all we got the introduction he exits we don't hear a word from him it's not until he is there on earth mounting this attack that we get to hear him voiced by the
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the glorious Keith David and just got to shout him out because he does such an awesome job embodying the he's like you get the feel that he's so powerful that he's like somewhat detached because like he's just not even entertaining the idea of negotiations and there's just like so much gravitas and menace to he chooses his word so so careful he's he everything he says is so deliberate and intentional
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And yeah, I was just very, very pleased with the introduction of this character. Yeah. Mongols. Mongols character was interesting. I geeked out. So I mean, there were I can't remember who was explaining the mechanics of the ship. Was it just him having like an internal dialogue about how it's made and how it's self-sustaining and. Who was it that was talking about the.
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That is a good question. It was revealed to us through dialogue. Someone was explaining...
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Great question. Well, anybody, somebody was explaining the dialogue of this thing and they were talking about how it's a little larger than our moon. And I was like, wouldn't that mess up the tides? And of course, the next scene is, hey, evacuate any water areas because there's high tides. And you see Aquaman and red tornado, like evacuating people who are off boats or on shores who were like being affected by the sudden like change in water. And I was like, God, this show is so smart. I love it.
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But even cooler than that, they were talking about how when you when they're sitting in the chair, then you have access to the whole weapon and you think it and drones will come out in the hallways and missiles will fire off. And it's like, well, that's very impressive tech. Right. But who's the first person to stop that tech? Dr. Fate is infinitely awesome manner just comes in, just
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shoots up this giant onkin protects the earth and i was like this is so cool what an entrance my guy what an entrance
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Yep. We always say how it's become a reoccurring thing, how Young Justice did it first. But this very much felt like that moment from Captain Marvel, where you basically have the one person rise out to meet this armada. Because the war world is big enough to represent an entire army, and it has the capability. We saw the firepower.
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Yeah, and it's just one guy standing against him. But then he opens up the portal so you get almost like that in-game moment as well where Green Beetle and Captain Adam join him. But yeah, I was right there with you. The show has done such a great job with Dr. Fate and it's always such a pleasure to see him. And Rocket, who's really been helping on the defense in this arc.
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oh yeah yeah because she was protecting him while he was protecting the earth and i was like that's a great combo yeah yeah we got some interesting tidbits about rocket 2 that i want to bring up later um but in regards to the rest of the league we've been talking about how captain adam seems to be in like the leadership position in the series more than
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Superman and Batman were on season one so we get more of that where he's the one that's negotiating with Mongol trying to get him to ease up a little bit and he joins in the front lines along with Green Beetle who it's at the time it was nice to see him working with the team before we find out what is you know what his issue was and
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But working with Shazam, Captain Adam, and all those big hitters just taking out the turds, which that small of a group going against something that massive was really cool to watch. Oh, yeah, it really was. I mean, the show continues to do just such an excellent job with the action and upping the ante by taking things to a
The Misfits' Independent Actions
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cosmic level was definitely appreciated by me.
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But I know one of the groups of characters that you were excited to speak about, and we can kind of highlight them first. It's this group called the Misfits, which consists of Virgil, aka Static Shock, Eddie, Ty, who was Jaime's friend, and then Sam.
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They were experimented on by the Reach, and that's how their powers manifested as we covered in previous coverage. But basically the reason that they're brought back into the picture is because the last time we saw them, they were basically meeting with Lex Luthor and discussing a possible partnership with them. But now that the war world is here and
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You know, through the events of the previous episode, Mongol is incapacitated and we lose a few members through Blue Beetle's ultimate betrayal. But it's this group of misfits that decide to take up the challenge and they actually use a father box to boom tube themselves onto the ship and mount this rescue operation.
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you want to go ahead and just get right into it. I was really, really impressed with the reintroduction of them with the vandalism skateboarding scene, especially Eddie and Sam, the way they were able to use their powers and conjunctions with their skateboards. So cool. So cool. Yeah, I think that's the first thing I put in my notes, too, was just kind of how cool the skateboarding theme was.
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It's interesting how only two of them knew each other beforehand, but how strong of a dynamic they already have in such a short amount of time. So seeing them being able to communicate with each other when one leader goes down, they kind of like just kind of pick up like, okay, you're taking orders from me now. And they they work really well together. Mm hmm.
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They all kind of have their role. They refer to Ty as the heavy hitter. There's that moment when Black Beetle takes him out pretty easily and Eddie's like, don't tell me we just lost our heavy hitter in like three seconds flat.
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Yeah, that was that was a pretty interesting time. And Arsenal kind of came to the rescue in this. Oh, definitely. In regards to like first, he was like, I don't know who these people in who just popped in. So like, and at this point, Arsenal is on the run. So he kind of wants to say, like, somebody help me. I'm out of ammo, I'm out of resources. But he's so.
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Hesitant to trust anybody that he's like I think they're friendlies They're fighting the reach soldiers, but I'm just gonna follow along real quick And then you see them trying to rescue the team and take down black beetle and that's when I was just kind of like okay I'll intervene now, but it was kind of like his guidance and leadership to or kind of like hey we have to offset him and Excuse me for forgetting his name, but the one that can teleport is
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that's Eddie Eddie you see it was cool seeing him because Arsenal piss him off at the laser a little bit and then Eddie would just kind of be hopping around shooting the back and I thought that eventually black beetle would get to the point where it's like well I know he's gonna pop up behind me and then turn around and shoot him or pull out some crazy weapon from his back but he actually was just so overwhelmed in that moment
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between Arsenal and Eddie, like so efficiently hopping around and then, uh, static and tie and get in there as well and just start like beating the crap. I don't know. This is a really cool dynamic and black beetle is genuinely frustrated with people who have less experience in the newest members of the league.
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Yeah, yeah. And the fact that they were their captives not that long ago. And it's so cool to see them become so sure of themselves as well because Virgil even had that great moment when they were pretending to surrender. And then the Reach guy gets right up into his face and he's like, gotcha. And then the manhole cover comes flying in, electrified. Yeah, I loved it.
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But yeah, their partnership with Arsenal was definitely critical to their success and even being able to have a chance against Black Beetle, but Arsenal himself is a character. I mean, coming off of the traumatic things that he went through in season one and what
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such a focal point he was, man, the character has just continued to really be fascinating in the directions they take him and the exploration they're choosing because
Arsenal's Journey and Misfits Collaboration
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It's worth mentioning some of the things we kind of glazed over from the last episode. I mentioned Blue Beetle's betrayal, but when that's going down, Arsenal's main priority is not getting captured again. He is absolutely terrified about being put in a pot again. So he's willing to put everybody else at risk by opening the airlock and
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At the time, I was mourning Sphere. Sphere just got flung out into space. We had to wait three episodes to see what happened there. I was like, poor guy. New genosphere, where'd you go? But yeah, no. Arsenal, yeah, he really has. There's been so much angst and what's the word I'm looking for?
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There's a lot of depth and he seems like such a real character and the trauma that he's gone through is really there. So it was nice to see him strike up this kinship with this newer team. And then the fact that at the end there, when Nightwing kind of steps up and finds out some of the acts that he's been taking and his, you know,
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his lack of caution effectively gets him kicked off the team. It was nice to see that group kind of bandy about him immediately. There's a range of selfishness in there.
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Yeah, we are yeah because he brought himself on to the team because he needed the assets to like hit his own objective and like Everybody else doesn't matter because he hasn't had that growing relationship that The red arrow we knew from last season did so at this point like he doesn't know anybody in this group outside of
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Robin in Kid Flash? Yeah, yeah. Robin being Nightwing now? Dick Grayson in Kid Flash? And then Robin would have been younger than him before and now he suddenly has to deal with being effectively younger than Nightwing. Yeah, it's like 13 and 18. Yeah. I mean, I can't imagine that's easy for him. No. So he was like, I don't care about these guys. They're just means to an end.
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Yeah, but seeing that what I'm calling the misfit, I don't want to say that's their actual name. So anybody that's like a diehard DC fan, if there is a name for it or you'd like to let me know, feel free to hit us up on Animation Deliberation podcast at gmail.com. Love to know what the actual background of those characters are.
00:22:14
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Yeah, we've already gotten a little bit of feedback from some of, it's nice that we're already developing a loyal listenership, but some people have already hit me up and said that they like the fact that we don't know everything. So I'm glad our speculation is more entertaining than anything else.
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Yeah, so I'm calling them the misfits because the episode description called them a group of misfits. So it just seems appropriate. They could be called the runaways. They could be the misfits. I actually generally don't know. Oh, yeah, we have an episode that was titled runaways. Yeah, that's why I thought that would be their name. But I know that's like a Marvel thing, too. So I didn't want to say it. Exactly. And be like, you're in your universe. You'd be like, no, I'm just watching a show and don't know shit about this. No, you're good. Anyways.
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So yeah, he has that shared relationship with the Misfits because they were under Star Labs this whole time being experimented on and essentially toyed with because this whole metagene thing is a new thing to Earthlings like they understand that there's people who have powers due to incidents but they didn't realize that there was something like inside that could actually be manifested and
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So this research is something new and our misfit crew isn't a fan of it. They're not a fan of being bossed around. They didn't like, I mean, despite Ty being friends with Blue Beetle, they didn't like the way that Virgil was going and the way that
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Everybody was bossing them around to make them feel like they were just being used as tools instead of people anymore because of these powers that they developed. I haven't even seen their families. So Arsenal definitely clicked with them really quick. And in regards to the empathy of that scenario, he was like, well, I might as well work with these guys because they listen to me and work with me. And he kind of became a self-established leader at that point as well.
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Yeah, no, that's totally fair. And I like the fact that you referred to Arsenal using the team as a means to an end because it kind of shows that he is not, as much as he is using the, we'll call them the misfits as a means to an end in terms of escaping.
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It's really Lex Luthor who is using the team as a means to an end because as Roy Harper reveals, they were basically just a distraction for Deathstroke to sneak in and steal this key to the Warworld, which is pretty critical to both the reach, obviously to Mongol to power the Warworld, and then obviously the League has a vested interest in it because
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for the same reasons basically they all have that everybody wants to check that power that is the war world because we already talked about that that sequence it's capable of taking out an entire planet just with its lunar lunar disrupting powers it's really funny that uh arsenal just can't get away from luther he's just kind of like seriously like you're working for him
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But then that encourages the misfits to be like well if you're not a fan of them Then we're not a fan of them because we don't want to be bossed around anymore. We'll be our own little team But it also like Brings up to confusion of like you see Luther and the light working with the reach so efficiently like why are they going out of their way to like Kind of sabotage them. Yeah
00:25:36
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Well, not to get too ahead of things here, but at the very end there, Queen Bee, who we know to be an active leader in the Light, she had a line of dialogue to her team where basically she reveals that they threw the fight just to basically put the reach, the team, as well as the League into the exact position that the Light wanted. So, I mean, that's the thing about the Light. They're always
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shining on. 15 steps ahead. They're moving at the speed of light. That's right. That's right. But I had two kind of like moments that gave me pause or just I guess questions I kind of want to follow up on.
Father Box Origins and Consequences
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Where did Lex Luthor get the father box from? Was that from last season?
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And then number two, what happens when you destroy a father box? Like what is the fallout of that? Because Sam just destroyed the laptop and the father box. That's seems like a big deal.
00:26:39
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to my immediate recollection the only time we've seen the father box is the episode where um The guys from new what's it called met superboy and new genesis new genesis Yeah, I think that was the last time that we saw a father box Yeah, that was the forever people. So I know you liked bear He was your guy. Yeah
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I was like, why did I like him? I know there was somebody that was, there was like somebody with like a cloak and double pistols who was like very hunter like from Destiny. But I was like, why did I like Bear? Oh, yeah, because he's Patrick. That was Serafin, I want to say. Yeah. But, you know, as we were discussing the Misfits team, one of the members, Ty, I mentioned has a pretty close background in relationship with Jaime Reyes and
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who we found out was voiced by the same guy that voices Patrick Star.
00:27:44
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I feel like we're kind of bearing the lead by not talking about Jaime Reyes because Blue Beetle has been such a integral part of the story and you know Kid Flash impulse not Kid Flash Bart Allen impulse Gave us this prophecy this this
00:28:05
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this warning to look out for, that Blue Beetle would betray humanity and basically help the region slave the planet. And it seems like everything is going that way.
00:28:18
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But I just what did you think about, you know, some of the machinations there with the reach ambassador being the one to control and you got the dialogue between not only Jaime but the scarab with the ambassador in there as well. And not to mention, I mean, we can kind of couple Nightwing in there because I felt like some of the most like tense moments for for Nightwing were when he was either talking to Jaime Reyes or, you know, when he saw him on on TV being broadcast as the as Earth's hero.
00:28:47
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Yeah, my notes specifically say f*** the Beatles because their relationship and how much they screwed over the team just really frustrated me because we have this awesome sequence of
00:29:01
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We were talking about how the Justice League were attacking the war world from the outside, but it was really impressive how quick the team broke up into their three fragments, or I think it was just Alpha, Bravo, and Gamma.
Blue Beetle's Betrayal and Team's Response
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And you and you see them like so efficiently and so quickly like go in and they go off the schematics of green beetle So it's like let's hope he's right and it's like yeah He actually knows what he's doing because the reach need the team's assets at this point But then we get to the point where blue beetle just betrays everybody almost killing everyone in the process and then just becomes a hero afterwards like
00:29:45
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Seriously, fuck them for that. Like, I thought Green Beetle was so cool when he first came up, too, and just like... Oh, yeah. I was all on board for Green Beetle. I was intrigued with how the Reach was like, you know, you could hear Jaime in the back instead of the Scarab. The Scarab was more speaking out, and the Reach was speaking out, but it was like, ugh, just that whole, like... I, like, you just...
00:30:13
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the show really makes you attached to these people and that level of betrayal like genuinely pisses me off where it's like how could you type of thing um and one of the notes that i had for nightwing since you kind of put him in this was sure it's great that the bat family has detective ability because he didn't buy blue beetle story for one second he had no reason to not believe blue beetle but he was like
00:30:42
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Nope, something's fits you about this, I'm gonna look around anyways.
00:30:45
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And that's just like the Bat family just being efficient at what they do. We see Barbara Gordon's leadership quite a bit in here, too, and how effective she is. And Tim Drake and her are always so quick to fight these people who they know they don't have any ability against. Sure. Even when Blue Beetle got his conscious back and they were talking about, what was the line? I know I wrote it down. It kind of cracked me up.
00:31:13
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Are we 100% sure this time because we dealt with this before? Something to that effect.
00:31:22
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I hear being a hero with no superpowers is optional But Tim Drake says the line he just kind of has that confidence of like no we were we were trained to handle this and you see that being the way that they portray themselves and how quick Tim Drake and Barbara Gordon are in to our to go into action and Dick Grayson shows that as well where it's just kind of like we don't we don't take things for granted There's you know Batman's always had that
00:31:47
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instinct of like what if your own team turns against you and that really came in handy of trying to put the pieces together and keep the rest of the team safe until they figure out how to pursue this because we know that Zatanna already had
00:32:01
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a potential solution for getting the Beatles free in case that they were. So you know that there was something, there was suspicion going within the team and within the league that there could be some reach interference and they had their guard up ready to kind of deal with the situation. And thankfully it worked out in the end.
00:32:20
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Yeah, yeah. And part of the reason I brought up Nightwing is because there was that whole scene where Jaime keeps saying, you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's all my fault, it's all my fault. And then Nightwing says, no, whoever did this will be sorry. And like, oh, I just like hung on that moment for a second. It's like, yeah. Because then when he finally saw him on the TV, he's holding Robin's
00:32:46
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What are those those called? They're not they're not batarangs, but What's the Robin version? They were just Berta rings Berta rings? Okay. Yeah when he's holding that and he just snaps it It's like oh man he and his eyes narrowed It was just like as much as we got the Batman vibe from him being a detective when those eyes narrowed I was like, oh, yes, we know That Dick Grayson is not Bruce Wayne But he's still his first protege. There's still some of that there and when I saw his eyes narrow I was like, oh
00:33:18
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Yeah, it's almost as if like it's kind of weird to say it's like Bruce Wayne is one parent and the team is the other and you see like Because those two things are what's raised him to be the person that he is, right? Like his interactions and his experiences with the team So you see it it's it's the team that made him go like I don't want to be entirely like Batman But at that moment is just kind of like nope
00:33:44
Speaker
And as intense as that scene was of him like watching the newscast and breaking the birder ring It was when the portal opened and he walked through like center screen and you had that sense of like someone's in trouble That we got with Batman a lot whenever he came in. It's like what did you guys do now? But yeah, he just comes in and he was like what happened to my team and I'm just like Yeah
00:34:12
Speaker
Yeah. And I haven't given enough praise to Jesse McCartney, but you know, he's, he's been voicing Nightwing Robbins since season one. And he really does a great job, even though like he's essentially doing the same voice. He's able to embody this, this anger and maturity. And there's a real, you can tell how responsible he feels as a leader when he says that, where is my team? So.
00:34:39
Speaker
Just, yeah, any opportunity I can to give kudos to the voice actors, because they're all phenomenal. Especially because I listened to Jesse McCartney in the Disney Channel days, so to hear that he's on one of my favorite all-time shows now is like, yay. That's hilarious. I was a little bit older, so I was like vaguely familiar with who he was, but I never... Oh, you got to listen to Beautiful Soul after this. Beautiful Soul? I think you'll have noted. Yeah, that was his Disney Channel song. It was so good.
00:35:07
Speaker
Okay, good to know, good to know. But one of my other favorite interactions that Nightwing had was a little bit later, but it was with McGann when they are basically, they're in the bioship and they're
00:35:24
Speaker
circling the war world and they're trying to get any signs of any of the missing members, and they basically have their guilt off. And such a great moment. These are two characters that have had a long-standing relationship. They've had some great moments across the seasons, but they haven't got to spend the most time together in this season. So I really love that moment, especially the callback.
00:35:52
Speaker
to one of Robin, Nightwing slash Robin, one of the things he'd said in season one. And McGann says something to the effect of, as a 13 year old used to say, that's just what we do. It's just what we do.
00:36:06
Speaker
It was just the pep talk that he needed. And it's funny to see the tables turn because it was so often that he was the one providing those pep talks to her and the team. So I love that moment so much.
Nightwing and McGann's Reflections
00:36:17
Speaker
So as you started that part, I went towards my notes of what I thought of that interaction. I apologize for backtracking a little bit, but after that note, I got a little cheesy. When Arsenal went in when he was saving everybody to grab their weapons,
00:36:35
Speaker
I wrote down how nice of Arsenal to scoop up everyone's arsenal. I'd be sad if I didn't throw that in there. But yeah, the interaction with Nightwing and Miss Martian was more especially unique because you don't see very many one on one interactions with them. It's typically like in the team vibe or on a mission or when they're like passing Intel. But
00:37:05
Speaker
for them to sit and have a conversation, I can't recall that happening on a regular basis. The last time that comes to mind off the top of my head would have been back in like season one, when we had the, it was the Hello Meghan, I think the episode was called Image, where they travel to Bialia, and it's basically Robin is the team leader. And they basically have to have that heart to heart about why they should even stop in the first place. Yeah.
00:37:34
Speaker
So yeah, so it's been a while. We don't we don't get just um Dick Grayson and McGahn interactions very often. So it was really unique to see like Not only their relationship and how open they are with each other but their growth and their development We hear them as you mentioned reference the things that he said when he was 13 now he's 18 19 but the the maturity the things they deal with and the things they cope with and
00:37:59
Speaker
a lot more responsibilities on their shoulder because of other lives that are at stake and other lives that are their responsibilities. It was a really good moment to see all of that progression over time. I mean, and outside of her interaction with Nightwing there, Megan's a character that's gone through, you know,
00:38:23
Speaker
Over the course of the show and even in the season, we've seen quite a progression with her. The last time we left her off, she was trying to undo one of her biggest misdeeds and that was destroying the mind of Aqualad.
00:38:43
Speaker
Prior to her rejoining the team and having that opportunity to have that interaction with Nightwing, and part of the guilt off is she talks about how it was her not being willing to dive deep enough into Green Beetle to get that level of clarity. She just kind of took it at a service level.
00:39:02
Speaker
But anyway, going back, she's on Black Manta's ship. We get to spend time with her as well as Aqualad and Artemis, AKA Tigress. And basically, they're at the end of the rope here. Black Manta is giving them a deadline, basically, Fix Calderon, or she's dead. She's got this inhibitor collar that's basically blocking all of her powers except for her
00:39:32
Speaker
Like psychic or telekinetic? No. Yeah, I wouldn't say telekinetic. That's the lefty thing. Yeah, exactly. Is it telekinetic? Ignore me. Keep going. No, no, you're good. You're good. Actually, I got a little thrown off there. But no, what was super effective about that introduction of those characters is I loved how they revealed to us that Calderon was okay.
Aqualad's Undercover Status Revealed
00:39:55
Speaker
because they were just like kind of like talking about him like he wasn't there and he's doing such an excellent job. He's such a stoic character anyway, but he's just like perfectly still staring forward. And he's like, they're talking about until Calderon is cured. You know, basically that's, that's how long I'm alive. And then Calderon is like, then we must not let him know that I'm cured. I was like, hell yeah. Good to have you back buddy. Good to have you back.
00:40:22
Speaker
The teams all together, kind of mentally. Kind of. Here's. It's a little bit of a diversion, but we're underwater, so I guess that's kind of relevant. Sure. When McGann goes to pick up Ligon to basically have the breakup talk. OK. They say that they're in Poseidonis.
00:40:47
Speaker
Oh, is that where the location tag was? Yeah. And this isn't the first time that there's been a huge shift in the underwater city because there was another dialogue. I can't remember at what point it was, but they specifically said King Orm. So I was like, I do remember Aquaman's not King Arthur anymore. And it's not Atlantis. It's Poseidon or other other cities underwater or.
00:41:14
Speaker
I mean, I'm not the most, I don't know the most about the Aquaman lore, but just even based off the movie we got for the DCEU with Jason Nomoa, I guess uniting the seven, which is mainly used for Justice League and Batman V Superman, could very much pertain to, you know, the seven seas and the seven, what was it, the seven nations? Yeah, something along that line.
00:41:43
Speaker
Yeah. There's basically different factions of the oceans. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just having Ligon there at all, we saw the one like squid-like creature that basically told the story of Gar. Oh yes, I do remember him. Yeah. Yeah. But other than that, we really haven't seen more of the wild Atlanteans outside of Ligon. So, but her breaking up with him does show a certain level of maturity.
00:42:14
Speaker
but I couldn't help but notice that he asked if it was because of Connor and she says, no, it's not because of him or because of you. It's because of me. And I was like, that's a good answer. Like I buy that. But then the first thing she asked when she gets back is, is Connor there? Nope. He is on a date with Wendy.
00:42:33
Speaker
Yes, and it's good to bring up Windy because we had TJ Stafford hit us up in the Stranded Panda Facebook chat, and he let us know that Windy, as well as another one of the characters, was from Super Friends. Let me pull this up. All right, yes, yes. So on the subject of Windy, here is TJ Stafford's comments. He says,
00:43:02
Speaker
In one of the latest editions of Young Justice, you guys talked about the Halloween episode. You guys mentioned that Kid Marvin, you mentioned that Kid Marvin. One of the other girls they hang out with is named Wendy. Wasn't sure if you guys knew this, but those two are supposed to be the reincarnations of two sidekicks of the Super Friends in the 1973 series. Just a fun fact, I noticed on my second or third watch of season one. So that doesn't make me feel quite as bad about not picking up on it on my
00:43:29
Speaker
my first watch but great to get that feedback and again just shows the homage and the respect that this series pays to the whole DC mythos and lore.
00:43:41
Speaker
And in the one time that we do see Wendy in season two with her interactions with Superboy, like she mentions that they went to high school together. And I tried not to say it in season one, but Mel and Bumblebee were two people who were like in the high school things who ended up being heroes on the team. So it's nice seeing that somebody else in that high school like has interactions with people on the team now. And apparently has some sort of comic book background as well.
00:44:10
Speaker
Yeah, and while we're on the subject of Mal and Bumblebee Karen, we can go ahead and speak on them. They didn't get the most amount of time, but in episode 15 war, when they were infiltrating the war world, they kind of had their bickering and they came full circle where Mal, who is acting as our guardian now since donning the guardian armor,
00:44:32
Speaker
He's feeling a little neglected as we've seen throughout the course of the season and feeling a little dumb in comparison to Karen. And Karen doesn't have much patience for him initially, but he's the one that provides the idea to reroute the power. And that's what ends up incapacitating Mongol at all.
00:44:53
Speaker
And she calls them a genius, you know, and they have their nice tender come full circle moment and kiss. And then just to kind of tie it back to Arsenal, when they got that kiss, he's like, what do I have to do to get one of those? And then Wonder Girl gives him a little peck on the cheek and he's like, yeah, it's a start. So I'll keep you keeping my eyes there. I mean, I can't imagine she's too happy with him after he busted the airlock, but.
00:45:15
Speaker
How about saying it was such a cute moment and then I ended up hating Arsenal right after. But I loved Mel's dialogue of, really? Right now in the middle of the nation? Woman, when are you not on a mission?
00:45:31
Speaker
such a sassy ass for the whole time dude like I was like I'm amazed that she has not broken up with your ass yet but like that's the vibe that they were going for and that is what he essentially noticed about himself and then her just kind of being like you know what like you have been trying to be there for me and take care of me I haven't been appreciative of you either so
Character Development Through Drama
00:45:52
Speaker
I mean, like I said, I don't waste my time really talking about the high school drama of this show because it was a Cartoon Network show. It was catered towards a certain audience and so much good storytelling that it's just not worth mentioning on a regular basis, but when it is so relevant to the story like this and they know what they're doing and they're trying to develop these relationships, then it's just really well done. Yeah, they do a good job of doling out in small doses as well, so it's never
00:46:20
Speaker
never unbearable. And like you said, it's always really well done. So that's why I say I've never wanted to be like, oh, ship them, but I will be keeping a little bit of an eye on Wonder Girl. I do love Superboy and Wonder Girl as like a power duo. Like there's no like relationship stuff there, but this isn't the first time where both of them had to like team up to be the heavy hitters. First, it was against Black Beetle. I'm sure there's one that I'm missing, but then they had to go against Mongol as well.
00:46:47
Speaker
And when that shot came in and they were just taking turns pounding on him, I was like, that is awesome. I'm going to take this opportunity for a quick prediction. OK. Given the show's history of like taking characters that we got to spend little bits of time with like over a couple of episodes and then bring them back later, I'm predicting Superboy and Wondergirl will get to go up against Tommy and Tuppence Terror at some point.
00:47:17
Speaker
Okay. Just a just a prediction. Perhaps. But Superboy was definitely a character that was definitely in the background. I think Ligon might have gotten more dialogue than him in this particular set of episodes. Yeah, which it was I mean, he didn't even show up in the last minute, too. So I think this whole arc was very focused on the the misfits and just kind of
00:47:49
Speaker
going with Megan and Calderon's story. Well, and Tigress too, there was some nice development for Artemis as well as far as her relationship with, you know, Cheshire and Sportsmaster, her father.
Sportsmaster and Cheshire's Dynamics
00:48:06
Speaker
Sportsmaster is just such a piece of ****.
00:48:10
Speaker
Their their motive of revenge is so weird like Cheshire's not being vocal of the fact that she like genuinely misses her sister You know, she throws out line. She was like, I'm just mad that you don't get to babysit your niece Right. Um, but like she genuinely cares for her little sister and was like genuinely heartbroken But sports master is like can't kill my reputation Yeah, yeah his fight scenes were awesome and
00:48:37
Speaker
I was gonna mention, that was one of my notes about that episode. I was like, all the action this episode, it's like, yeah. A character like Sportsmaster, I said it before, but he should not be cool, but they make him so cool. He had Black Manta. If nobody had interfered, he had Black Manta, dead to rights. There's something to be said for that. That dad fight between the two of them was just so awesome. It was so high-paced with the punches and the swings. It was just so good.
00:49:07
Speaker
So when are we gonna get the exchange between Calderom and Artemis? My dad's stronger than yours. It's been proven. My dad beat your dad up. We both hate our dads, but...
00:49:21
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. What I was going to say is when Sportsmaster has that moment where he's like, this is all about my rep, baby girl. And Jade gives him that scoff. He's like, you're not that different from me. And she kind of looks down and she doesn't vocalize anything. But you can tell there's a moment of self-reflection that just shows what a terrible daddy is and how he really has set
00:49:50
Speaker
set her on a negative path. She seems like she's a really likable character and there's complexity there and the fact that she really does care for Artemis and the fact that she got together with the cloned version of Roy Harper and has a kid in this world. I like Cheshire from day one so I always relish any opportunity to spend time with her and she's got a really cool character design too and I love that moment where
00:50:16
Speaker
she did have tigers pinned to the ground and she says like nice get up it reminds me of me yeah i didn't notice the like hair color similarities and all that until she said that i was like oh they do look related now
00:50:29
Speaker
Yeah. And she even had a nice moment with McGahn, where it's like, we'll probably never be friends. And she's like, no, scratch that. You can scratch the probably. We're not going to be friends. But they still do what they need to do to keep Artemis safe. Yeah, the way that they played it off was really impressive. I'm like, yeah, you're a scoundrel, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And that's the bullshit that I'm going to make up to get out of the situation right now.
00:50:57
Speaker
Yeah, because not only did they have to fool Black Manta, they also had to fool Deathstroke who came into the picture. Who was so good at this universe. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:51:06
Speaker
And it allowed for that moment where McGahn tells Tigres, sorry, she gives her a preemptive sorry, and I made sure to make note of that, the preemptive sorry. Sorry for what? Just flings Deathstroke right back into her. And I know that Tigres kind of had her uniform and everything before Deathstroke popped in, but I like how they both work for Manta and they match perfectly. Because Deathstroke's like the black and orange, not the blue and orange.
00:51:33
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Sportsmaster definitely has a little bit of that vibe as well, but then I know not to mix universes up too much here, but like Deadpool, there's obviously a lot of similarities there, even in like, as far as the name goes, like Deathstroke's actual name is Slade Wilson and then Deadpool is Wade Wilson.
00:51:56
Speaker
Wasn't that intentional to mock DC? Yeah, it was. They also had a really cool moment when
00:52:06
Speaker
I think Sportsmaster was about to kill Artemis and Cheshire was about to kill Calder and Megane put them in the memory and Cheshire was like, how dare you go into my mind and pull out this memory. And that's when Artemis was like, no, this is my memory. But Sportsmaster still wasn't buying it. So Artemis being her cocky self is just kind of like, I'll convince him.
00:52:31
Speaker
And she's like, I showed you that move. It's like, now you believe me. So it's like, it's funny how much Artemis despises her dad for being a villain and the actions that he takes and the things that he does. But like,
00:52:48
Speaker
She uses his knowledge to her advantage, where it's just kind of like, I know how to speak her language. I've been with you long enough to know how to communicate with you. I don't like it. I don't live by these morals, but I know how to get what I need from you.
00:53:03
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, he does, I'm still, he's not winning father of the year anytime soon, but he did, he did do the one thing she asked and return that favor. And he just like exploded the control room that would have had evidence that she was the one that tampered with the inhibitor collar, I guess. Correct. Yeah, okay. But yeah, I suppose like, I feel like we've pretty much hit
00:53:31
Speaker
most of the characters and their big strides. So I guess the only thing it really makes sense to do at this point in time is to kind of tie it back to Blue Beetle and just kind of refer to the fact that he spent the majority of his time under the Reach's control like we talked about. But we did get this
00:53:51
Speaker
Sequence in Bialia where we got the return of one of your favorite characters. I made a point of just writing down Zatanna with an exclamation point because I knew. Zatanna! Yeah. And I loved how much of her dialogue, how much of her spells we got to see showcased this time because it had already been hinted at the fact that everything she was saying was just backwards. But the fact that I got to see so much of it on screen this time, I was actually able to identify certain words that she was saying backwards and stuff like that. And I think I pulled out
00:54:20
Speaker
the god Isis was involved with the Scarab ceremony. And then of course you get that great joke from Rocket where she's like, girl, you got to tell me how you have to teach me how you learn these words backwards so fast one day. Practice, practice. But I said something about Rocket and I said we would bring it back up.
00:54:42
Speaker
I can't remember if it was Blue Beetle or the Reach, but when she encases him in her power bubble, they recognize it as, was it the cooperation? Yeah, it's an alien, alien tech or alien thing that they call cooperation, which we've learned that ICON has
00:55:05
Speaker
Like I don't know too much about the hero and his background and comic book knowledge and whatnot, but he's mentioned that he has knowledge and communication intergalactically. So it makes sense that his power and his skillset is alien and that he shared or... Rocket's his daughter, right? I'm unclear. I'd have to do... I think Rocket is ICON's daughter, but don't quote me on that. Okay. Okay.
00:55:33
Speaker
Um, so you see that, uh, there, there is some alien tech. We see a little hint of how, how, how small this, this universe actually is and the reach actually being familiar with that. Um, but it is cool because we saw the villains mix science with alien with magical lot, but now the league is doing it really efficiently too. Yeah.
00:55:59
Speaker
regard and we've we see that Zatanna has been working with dr. Fate a lot because he has a knowledge teacher like you can't find a better mentor than that but it's also we know that that's her dad that's under the helmet so she's finding ways to like spend time with her dad as much as possible even it is through this badass lunatic so rocket being able to a set to provide that assist to dr. Fate and Zatanna in this
00:56:28
Speaker
same season is really cool because you see how much they're working together and how much they're playing off of each other and coming up with uh techniques and strategy to make the the league more efficient and more powerful. Yeah and there's something to be said for the fact that they they're continually paired together because they were the two that graduated to the league they had that that moment with Nightwing like you know
00:56:50
Speaker
Or was it with, I guess McGann was there too, where they said the invitation is always open to join the league, and they were the two that decided to. But I hadn't really considered that, but it makes perfect sense that that's part of the motivation for Zatanna to join the league, is just to get more interactions with Dr. Fate. Oh, for sure. Yeah.
Blue Beetle's Legacy and Evolution
00:57:10
Speaker
She misses her dad.
00:57:13
Speaker
But one of the other things I really loved about that was after Jaime was freed and we got kind of like the history lesson from Tim Drake Robin about the legacy of the Blue Beetle. And I had a tangential knowledge and I knew who Dan Garrett was. I obviously knew who Ted Kord was, but it was just great to see that history lesson and like it all put out there for everybody to know. I know, um,
00:57:41
Speaker
I think the scarab being alien technology was a retroactive thing in the comics because initially I believe Dan Garrett thought it was a magical scarab, but at any rate, I really appreciated that. It was super well done.
00:57:59
Speaker
especially with the Egyptian history and Egyptian background you see that dr. Fate kind of takes a lot of like especially with the onk a lot of Egyptian symbols so it's like The Egyptians in this universe at the time were very proficient in magic and magic was something that was frequently used between humans on earth at the time Mm-hmm
00:58:24
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Well, I mean, the world just continues to be built and expanded, not only into the cosmos and into the stars, but we get more context about some of the history that has already taken place on this version of Earth.
00:58:39
Speaker
I think that that'll probably bring things to a bit of a close here as far as our coverage of these episodes. We've only got two episodes left for season two, so definitely a lot to cover in a short amount of episodes. This season is a few episodes shorter.
00:58:59
Speaker
than the first season, but I'm really excited to see where things go. I think Jaime is going to be back in the fight with a vengeance.
Anticipation for the Season Finale
00:59:06
Speaker
It's awesome to have both Blue Beetle and Green Beetle off mode so we can actually have that awesome character be on our side for real this time. Other than that, I'm just really curious to see what Lex Luthor and Queen Bee are up to. So I kind of went down a rabbit hole
00:59:26
Speaker
ICON is an alien who arrived on Earth as an infant in 1810. Wow, okay. He, at some point later in his life, he established himself in Dakota City and became a lawyer. He met a young girl, Raquel, who's a rocket, who convinced him to become a superhero in May of 2010.
00:59:47
Speaker
Okay, because we had the bridal shower for Rocket, I wondered if she was marrying Icon, but that didn't really make much sense given that he was off planet. His powers are energy blast, flight, invulnerability, and super strength. Superman type, yeah. Rocket is a human. Okay.
01:00:13
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There's a lot of scrolling to do here. Equipment. Rocket has no inherent superpowers, but with the belt she wears, she has the following abilities. Flight and the force bubble. Rocket can create blue bubbles of kinetic energy and growing stronger if kinetic force exerted on the target. She can also use a bubble as a projectile. Okay. Does it say anything about the origin of the belt? Hmm.
01:00:42
Speaker
Nope, I guess it's just assumed that she either made it or icon gave it to her. Well, I don't know. I mean, they said, they said the alien cooperation. So, I mean, I think there's gotta be something there. Like we, we said with this show, no small detail or nothing's without intention, but yeah, it's just, it's just not a character I know very much about.
01:01:09
Speaker
Yeah, but that's a little more inside into the character. Yeah, well, I appreciate that. It's good to get one of the little nuggets we can get. Yeah. We only got two more episodes, dude.
01:01:23
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I was saying. A lot to take place. We've got the league, the team, the reach, the light. How's it all going to shake out? The misfits with Arsenal? Is it going to have a happy ending? Are we going to get another big cliffhanger before season three? Man, don't even talk to me about cliffhangers because... Uh-oh.
01:01:49
Speaker
Season two ended in 2014 maybe 12 or 14 and They canceled the show and Then it didn't come back until like a couple years ago when I say 2017 that was the first year of DC Universe and
01:02:13
Speaker
Yeah, so I think 2013 was the last uh season two episode it was like five six years of like You know how they're doing like release the Snyder cut And now they're doing like restore the Snyder verse. It was young justice season three for like five years Yeah, um, so yeah That was that was a long wait
01:02:40
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01:05:07
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