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Animation Deliberation Young Justice Season 1 Debut (Ep 1-2)
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On our debut episode we cover the first 2 premiere episodes of Young Justice in part 1 of our coverage! Season 1 Episodes 1-2
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Intro & Podcast Origins
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Welcome to the Animation Deliberation Podcast, the podcast where we take action animation and cartoons seriously. On today's debut episode, we'll be covering the first two episodes of Young Justice season one in preparation for Young Justice season four. All that and more after these ads that we have no control over.
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Welcome to the Action Animation Deliberation Podcast. My name's Jay Scottie St. Clair, and today I'm joined by my co-host and resident expert, All Things Young Justice, Zuhair Ali. How you doing, Zuhair? Doing well. Thanks for having me, bud. Yeah, of course. We've been talking about this for a little bit, but it's exciting to finally sit down and record the debut episode of this podcast.
Hosts' Background & Animation Influences
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Super excited.
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Yeah, so before we really get into the nitty gritty of Young Justice, I want to kind of introduce ourselves, give some of our background and our interest in the animation world and why exactly we want to do this podcast and why we thought it'd be a good fit for the network. So, Zuhar, do you want to start?
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Yeah, sure. Growing up, I was a Cartoon Network guy. Didn't do too much Nickelodeon stuff. I was kind of dead set on the one channel. Ed Edd and Eddie, Courage the Cowardly Dog. But more for storytelling stuff, I was into Spider-Man, X-Men, the Batman animated series, the Justice League one that followed.
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And then around middle school I was really into anime, so I was into Dragon Ball Z, Miyugio, Naruto, things of that sort is kind of what really built the interest for universe building and storytelling and all the fan fiction that comes along with it.
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Oh yeah, certainly. I would agree some of the series that you brought up were certainly big influences on me as well. I was definitely a Cartoon Network kid as well as a Nickelodeon kid. You mentioned Batman the Animated Series. That was definitely a big influence on me. I definitely remember going to see a mask of the Phantasm in theaters. That was a defining experience for me. I also think of some of the stuff that came on
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cartoon network like Dexter's Labs, Samurai Jack, that stuff from Gindy Tartakovsky. He really had a unique vision and a way of animating action that I think has influenced a lot of animators going forward.
Impact & Complexity of Animation
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So as far as the DC side of things,
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I have a cursory knowledge of the comics. I always like to say that I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of the comics. I certainly watched, you know, Batman the Animated Series, Batman Beyond, the Justice League that spun off of those. And I would certainly say that this series definitely kind of takes the torture, picks up the mantle from those. It's not a direct follow-up, but it is very much so influenced by those series. What do you think about that?
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Uh, for me personally, it was, um, I didn't, I didn't grow up reading comics, but I liked superheroes. So I haven't watched things like Batman Day Made series or Justice League since I was a kid, but it was something that I watched enough that the heroes and villains that came up often enough for stuff I just kind of remembered over time.
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Aside from that, it's just more recent movies and TV, so the Dark Knight trilogy, the DCU universe right now, and the CW properties such as Arrow, Flash, Legends of Tomorrow. So when it comes to like the really nitty-gritty references, I tend to miss out on a lot of those, but I know just enough to keep a general conversation going.
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Yeah, I think we're kind of on the same page as far as that goes. And you mentioned all these series and kind of how they've gone on to influence some of the, well, let me kind of backpedal there. I would say since we're of a similar age group and kind of grew up watching the same things, I know for myself, it was a lot of these animated series like Batman the Animated Series, the Spider-Man series from the 90s, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, they gave me a keen interest
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in these larger-than-life stories and, you know, kind of these action set pieces that I think it's interesting to see how iconic and influential those series were, that they're kind of, they're really influencing what audiences are kind of seeking out as far as the blockbuster stuff goes. It's really interesting to see. A lot of people don't want to take animation seriously, but I think you have to look to these series and look at them for more than a surface level
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perspective to really appreciate them and see the influence that they've had. And I hope that that's what we do on this podcast.
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And I personally am guilty of not giving a few of these series the credit that it deserves. When I first heard about Young Justice and when it was on Netflix, I was just kind of like, why would I want to watch a show about the sidekicks? And essentially, that's what the show is about, is more than just sidekicks.
Young Justice: Storytelling & Popularity
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And I felt the same way about Clone Wars and Rebels, which after I watched and finished, I was like, I want to start this all over again, like,
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It does start off in a way that does intrigue to children because they do end up inevitably on networks that cater to that. There is a perception that we have of it's animated, it's on Cartoon Network,
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This is a stretch and I hope it doesn't affect anybody's perception of the show, but I love Young Justice on an MCU level with how well they are at their storytelling and their universe building and kind of like keeping everything connected.
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Why would it be good?
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And Rebels and Clone Wars are two other shows that do a great job at that. And anime in general, it's like any good anime is one that can build a universe that can stay self-contained and just come up with the possibility of it as a fan fiction. So my perception has definitely changed. I was one of those guilty parties that was like, wow, I want to watch this. But now it's like, if you can give me quality, I don't care if it's live action or
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I love that you bring up your passion and love for the series and that it's on that level of one of the most popular franchises out there because it's kind of a good point to bring up why I thought you'd be a good co-host for this because as far as Young Justice goes
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For years, I've always heard about the quality of the show and how good the storytelling was and the continuity. Given the show's production history, it debuted in 2010, going on 11 years ago now. And after the first two seasons, it was canceled in 2013.
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but the demand and the popularity was so fervent and high that it actually came back for a third season in 2019 and now we know that we're getting a fourth season, which we expect will be coming very soon in the first part of 2021 here, which is why we're going back and revisiting this first season.
Animation Appeal Across Ages
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But another thing you brought up there, something that we will be hitting on frequently in this podcast is a lot of these shows, as you mentioned, they do
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they did originally debut on networks that are targeted towards kids. So for me, that's the fine line between
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a really solid animated series and something that's more just kind of going through the motion and is made to create toys. And there's always a little bit of element of that in all of these series. They are there to bring in the kids. But if you can kind of transcend that and bring in the adults and entertain the adults,
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And then on top of that, just the artwork and the quality of the animation, I'm always going to be there for that. If I can see that the work was put in and throughout, just initially off these first few episodes that we're going to talk about, I'm very, very impressed. And I can see why you have that kind of love. And I think that is part of the reason people get so endeared to a series like that when the time and energy is put in there and it's so evident.
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Oh boy, do I have things to say about the animation quality in this show. Oh, get into it a little bit. Yeah, what do you want to say? You ready to dive right in? Yeah, let's go for it. All right, so this is just talking about episode one and two. I've watched this series before. This is probably my first rewatch in a couple of years. So I'm trying to keep it to the perspective of just trying to contain myself to these two episodes.
Character Design & Symbolism
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But one of my favorite things about this is that it is a very, like the characters and the style is very simple.
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They don't give everybody unique outfits. It's stuff that's true to their original looks. It's very simple, very clean, but it doesn't take away from how good the movements and everything are. You see these basic designs, these basic color palettes that they use for all the characters, but as soon as the first fight scenes kick in,
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like these guys move it's not Dragon Ball Z level arms just flailing around like they actually have solid fight choreography between their punches their kicks the way their weapons move around the way their powers are displayed and that's something that
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I don't think I fully appreciate it until I watched it just now because when I watched it the first time I was in college for photography and I was talking to animation students about it. But now I've actually like been in my photography career for a while and I'm a martial artist as well. So it's like I'm looking at this with a whole new set of eyes of like, they put a lot of detail into this a lot. Oh, yeah. You bring up the designs and how they're kind of
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I can't remember exactly what you said. You said that they don't really stand out, maybe. And they are very simplistic, but to me, that's what's so nice about it. They are so simplified.
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But the fact is that we're dealing with, more often than not, we're dealing with three, four, five characters on screen. And what I'm really impressed by is I have no issues following the action and following where all these characters are at any given point in time, what they're doing. You mentioned the choreography. You can tell they really storyboarded this out, and I've already just alluded to the time and energy. It's there, and the action,
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It's not gratuitous because, again, it is geared towards kids. They don't want to scare anybody. But there's impact. There were several times in just these first two episodes that I kind of found myself kind of sitting back in my chair a little bit and go wincing for the characters, especially Robin. He gets it pretty rough at one point. Oh, yes.
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But yeah, I think the designs are really striking. They are very simplistic, but there's a lot of sharp angles as far as like the shoulders go and whatnot in the musculature. But I think it gives it a really unique sense of style and identity. So I dig it.
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I think it tends to pay a little bit of homage to the series that we talked about before with Batman, the animated series. It's not to say that it's basic in a bad way, it's just a very intentional, simple, clean look.
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And it does pay some respect to like the original Look of some of these superheroes and then that style that of a show that we actually do admire Even now it's something that's worth rewatching and just just just hats off to like
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how how simple they kept it so that it's easy to depict the character like you said you always know who's on screen and who's doing what and like nothing ever really gets lost like you look at these characters and you can say like oh i recognize him from this or i've seen him in this or he's popped in and that like
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It's a look that can be passed on from the age of like when Batman comes onto screen for the first time, you have that comfort of understanding this is Batman. This is Superman. This is Aquaman. There's no crazy looks. There's no super redesigns. It's just kind of like they're going off of what you know so that people who have comic book background can get excited about it. But people who have never seen these characters before
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Can actually just admire the way that they look and be like who is this person definitely? and we can kind of get into the characters since we've been talking about their design so much, but I
Sidekicks' Roles & Dynamics
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We can go kind of any particular order here if you want to go by the ones that people are most familiar with, or if I think it would be kind of cool to go by our favorite characters just initially right off the bat. One that I didn't have a lot of exposure to, and I really like the way he's adapted for this series as far as the way he's designed. His power set, the voice actor behind him does a really excellent job, but for me it's Aqualad, aka Calderon.
00:13:51
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who is the protege of Aquaman. He's the Atlantean protege of Aquaman. I actually, I didn't know Aqualad was a person until I watched the show. Okay. The only reason I knew of
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I'm actually not sure if I knew of Kid Flash beforehand because I know he did make an appearance in the Flash CW show. Correct. But he may have popped up in that after Young Justice. I'm not sure we'd have to check some release date times on that. Just off the top of my head, I want to say that's correct because Young Justice would have came out in 2010. The Flash was coming out around 2014. Okay, so yeah, when I was initially watching the show,
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I didn't know who Speedy was. I didn't know who Kid Flash was. I didn't know who Aqualad was. And Robin, as the series intended, in my head was just Batman Sidekick. So all of their introductions were very interesting and it's actually something I wrote into my notes. One of the things I was very impressed with is you understand a lot about their personalities and how they think and what their attitude is like before the opening theme song even kicks in. Oh yeah, that's a great point.
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So the show starts off with every sidekick making their appearance because the cold family is attacking on different cities in the United States and every sidekick comes up with their mentor and they're talking about what they're excited about.
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At this point as an audience, we don't know what they're excited about, but it turns out that they're going to see the Hall of Justice for the first time. They're actually going to be working with the Leaguers, which is a big deal for Cytix, because what would you say the age range of these characters are? Maybe like 14 to 17? I'd say that Calderon's probably the oldest. Yeah, Calderon definitely comes across as the oldest, and I'd say, or maybe Speedy. Speedy and Calderon are probably around the same age, but 14 to 17 seems pretty fair.
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Okay, that sounds right. So taking the opportunity to see how they connect with their mentors, how they work together, and then what their personality traits are like. So the first one that comes up is Robin, and they're going against Mr. Freeze. And you hear the snicker.
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And then Mr. Freeze is initially on guard like, oh snap, Batman's here, what's going on? And then you hear the Robin laugh and it's just kind of like, oh, it's just you, it's just boy wonder. But he gets a good hit in with his batarangs onto Mr. Freeze's helmet, like he's got him on his knees. So it's kind of like, you can talk shit all you want, like you're still on your knees against a kid right now. And then you see that excitement
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but low-key that sense of being terrified when Batman comes up. Oh yeah. Because it's like I wasn't talking to you. Mr. Freeze comes around Batman comes up and it's like as much as you love the character he is a character that demands respect. Oh yeah. And he's a character that demands that you like shiver a little bit when you see him. So it doesn't matter if you're watching a cartoon if you're watching him live-action when Batman comes on screen your eyes wide enough and you're just like uh.
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And they got that presence within like the half a second that he popped up in that moment. Oh, yeah. And what were your thoughts on just Robin and Batman? Yeah, no, I definitely agree with the points that you brought up there. Batman definitely does a good job of striking fear and terror in the few seconds of screen time he gets there. But what I loved about it is that he's able to do it in broad daylight. And one of the things I took away from that scene is this series, as opposed to a lot of
00:18:02
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other shows, like I noticed it gives us dates. So this takes place on July 4th, which here in America, that's Independence Day, which is the name of the episode. So it's kind of appropriate that all these ice villains are attacking. It just kind of gives you that nice
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summary feel. But you also alluded to the fact that we get our characters personalities in such a short amount of time. And this, I love the fact that this is the first time that we get a reference to a joke that's going to come up over the couple of episodes here. But Robin likes to do play on words, including the people, the fact that people like to say that they're underwhelmed, overwhelmed, or aren't people just ever whelmed.
Character Exploration: Robin & Speedy
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And we get the first instance of that here.
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I've been using the whelm thing for so many years now, and because nobody watches the show, they never get what I'm saying. It's like, how are you feeling today? I'm just whelm. What? Just watch Young Justice, you'll get it.
00:19:03
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So after Batman and Robin, it was Green Arrow and Speedy that popped up. I think they were on a bridge. I can't remember if it was San Francisco or not. It looked like the Golden Gate Bridge. If it wasn't supposed to be, it was supposed to be somewhat like it. I know the comics. Green Arrow is based out of Star City. Gotcha. So what were your thoughts on their appearance and the personality that you picked up on first view?
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Yeah, so Speedy definitely does a good job of broadcasting his impatience. He doesn't even seem like he wants to entertain this fight for a second. He's very brash, cuts the villain off, doesn't want to do the chit chat. I think he's the first one to actually say, today's the day. Let's get on, let's get at it.
00:19:48
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Let's get this thing done. Today's the day. Um, which is interesting, you know, given green arrow, he's always kind of the smiley guy given my previous exposures to him. It's kind of funny that his protege has so much angst, but, uh, it was a good introduction. I, I, again, I liked the.
00:20:06
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the action that was broadcast, did a good job of showcasing his skill with the arrows as well as the versatility of the different types of ammo he uses as such the exploding arrows.
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Yeah, after watching the Arrow TV series for so long, because Stephen Amell, as Oliver Queen, was taking more of the Bruce Wayne Batman approach than he was, that light-hearted, goofy nature, it was interesting dialing back to him being a goof and just kind of being out in a vat. He's jokey. He says what's on his mind. He tries to find a way to laugh at whatever crack jokes and whatnot.
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But yeah, Speedy was definitely harsh and to the point and ready to kick butt and he means business. Personality-wise, he is definitely the opposite of Oliver Queen. Yeah, and just one last quick little thing on Speedy. I thought it was kind of funny given his gruff personality and kind of harshness there. It was kind of a funny juxtaposition given the way that they decided to dress him in his full
00:21:18
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Classic comic book from like the Golden Age regalia where he's got like the yellow hat and the red suit with the yellow Yellow finishes and whatnot. He's not very conspicuous at all stands out pretty blatantly Yeah, that Robin Hood looking Hat, right, right, right. Yeah, he definitely had sidekick written all over him, but don't let him hear you say that I
00:21:44
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I can't remember which show or movie set it, but I vaguely remember a line, I think it might have been from Titans, where they were like, remember when you always used to wear red and yellow, like you were the target, you were supposed to take the shot. Yes, this was definitely from Titans, Jason Todd said it.
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where he was like, we're supposed to be the sidekicks were supposed to be who takes the attention away from Batman so that the other so that Batman can do his thing, we're the human targets, and he was proud of it. And he was happy about it. So with Robin, and speedy wearing those colors of like,
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look at me, I'm the human target, shoot me so that greener could look. It's interesting seeing that consistency between the characters in regards to the color choices. Because now that I'm thinking about it, Aqualad wears a red top and Kid Flash is all yellow with hints of red. So it's like yellow is the official sidekick color, the official shoot me color.
00:22:51
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Yeah, and I kind of wonder not to take too much of a sidetrack here, but I know like given the comics history, sidekicks were something that were introduced to kind of to get comic books back to that kind of kid friendly nature. There was a period of time where they got a little bit more mature, but the sidekicks were definitely a way to kind of get the kids back into it, which is, you know, appropriate given that this is a kid show. So.
00:23:17
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But that's that's really an interesting point that you bring up. I don't have a lot of exposure to the Titans TV series, but That's definitely a it puts a different light onto it. I'll say that much so but very dark light. Yeah, that's right That's right. But as far as you brought up Aqualad and His introduction there is or you brought up his character design He's got the the red vest and whatnot as well as the tattoos that light up and they are actually a
00:23:47
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They're pretty significant to his power set. Do you want to get into a little bit about that? You might have some...
00:23:54
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more experience into the actual ins and outs of what he's pulling off there as far as the bioelectricity goes. So my favorite thing about his character is the swords. That could be the martial artist in me, but what it basically is is he has two handles and he manipulates the water that's around him. So whether he has some water on him or whether it's the water around, like he can make, he can manifest weapons from that.
00:24:22
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so he'll make a mace, he'll make a sword, he'll make whips, thinks of that sword, thinks of that source, excuse me. As far as the bioelectricity go, I feel like that is a source of magic of his. I'm not sure if they've addressed it in the show at any point or if this is something you're supposed to know about the character, but the tattoos that are going down his arm
00:24:45
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You can see on the back of his hand it's actually the head of a snake. Oh, okay. So it's two snakes going up the arm and into the back. Interesting. I hadn't picked up on that. That's cool though.
00:24:58
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Yeah, so I honestly can't remember. I think the electricity is part of his powers because magic is a very prominent thing in this TV series, as we'll see with future characters and episodes that use it heavily. But I can't remember specifically if it's something exclusive to Aqualad or if it's something that he's been taught in the magic realm because
00:25:25
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Aquaman's wife is a Queen Mira? Yeah, Queen Mira, that's correct. Yes. She hasn't been introduced yet, but like she's heavy on magic too. And Atlantis actually has like a school and when they're training the warriors, everybody has a basic knowledge of how to use water or magic.
00:25:43
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So if I remember correctly, the magic was included with the bioelectricity, but don't quote me on it. Okay. You brought up the weapons that he wields and that's definitely a standout feature of the character. They're really cool. It's awesome to see them in action. And as far as his introduction goes, he and his king Aquaman, they're facing off against Killer Frost.
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And it's interesting. I think he has one of the more unique positions in terms of his relationship to his mentor and the fact that Aquaman is his king. He's got the utmost respect. And when Aquaman asks him if he's excited, he's kind of like, let's get the mission done first. I want to make sure I serve you and make you proud. And then now that that's done, yeah, of course I'm excited. This is a big day.
00:26:36
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What did you think about his interactions and how he was able to broadcast or maybe not broadcast his excitement?
00:26:44
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I think we see enough of the younger characters that are always like brash and don't want to listen to their mentors and go off and do their own thing. So with a collection of people who are already like that, it was nice seeing somebody who respects their master. I'm sorry, respects their mentor, use better words. They respect their mentors, they value what they have to teach, they value the skill set, and they showed that level of regard.
00:27:14
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Because he is a warrior, he is a soldier, so in his head it's like, if my higher up tells me to do something, I need to be done. I have to be mission focused, I have to be a leader, I have to be prepared. And that's not something we see in young characters as much as we should. So it's nice that they're starting off the show showing that he has this ability of showing respect and working with other people. Yeah, that's an excellent point.
00:27:44
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Even with our limited exposure to these characters in the first two episodes, as they're kind of coming together, meeting each other, and becoming this team, it's really apparent from the start that he is probably the most level-headed of all of them.
Character Exploration: Kid Flash & Aqualad
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Robin certainly has
00:28:03
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It can keep his cool, but you mentioned some of the younger characters. If I'm not mistaken, I think Robin might be the youngest of the bunch, whereas we kind of previously mentioned it's either Aqualad or Speedy that are the oldest. But anyway, that leads us to our last member. He kind of falls somewhere in the middle as far as the age range goes, and that is Kid Flash, Mr. Wally West, who is
00:28:29
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very much the chief source of comedic relief, not unlike his mentor was in many iterations of the Justice League. What were your thoughts about Kid Flash and his introduction?
00:28:41
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Yeah, he's definitely the goof of the crew. They make it pretty clear that Kid Flash and Robin are pretty tight. Like you know they keep in touch when they're in their own respective cities. And whenever they meet up, it's like they had just seen each other yesterday. So it's a cool...
00:29:02
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bond that they have especially with their mentors all being in the justice league you know they come across each other's paths pretty often but for them to actually have that friendship was a cool thing to see but he's definitely like his mentor uh flash and kid flash are both just goofs and reckless with their powers and don't know how to keep track of time and which is ironic being the fastest people alive right right
00:29:26
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It's just it's just it's fun nature. You know, he's still kind of getting a grasp of his power He's a little bit reckless because you can see that when he's fighting Whoever it was in the cold family, like he actually took a hit to the shoulder when he was captain cold. Yes. Yes He actually took a hit to the shoulder because he was just like He was rash at that point. He was like, I want to keep going I don't care that this guy's like attacking me right now. Like I'll take this hit. Yeah Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because that was definitely something I noticed about the scene
00:29:54
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It's kind of a trope among speedsters that there is a certain amount of impatience there, and as he and Flash are kind of circling around, yeah, as you mentioned, he makes the call to kind of butt in there, takes the hit to the shoulder. It's not fatal, but he's able to get the gun away from Captain Cold. But that doesn't really end up mattering all that much because ironically the two speedsters are the last ones to show up.
00:30:20
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Wally West makes that very clear that he's not happy about it, but it's like you see the the smile on Barry Allen's face like yeah, what's new?
00:30:28
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Yeah, and one of my favorite things is they're approaching the Hall of Justice here, and it's finally this day. We've been introduced to the core members of this crew here. They're excited for this stage. And we're almost, or we should be just as excited as them after seeing all this action and whatnot. But as they're approaching the Hall of Justice, you hear all the people in the crowd like, oh, there they are. Who's this? Who's that? And somebody says something along the lines, oh, is that Speedy? He's like, no, no, that's Kid Flash. Speedy is Green Arrow's sidekick. And he's like, well, that makes no sense at all.
00:30:57
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You're not wrong. That makes me laugh every time. That was a great moment.
00:31:04
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It's Flash Jr. and that's one of the things too. It's an ongoing thing in the series where it's like they're trying to get the respect of their name and people just aren't having it. They're just like, you're not one of the big heroes. We really don't care. You're just a celebrity with a face in front of us right now. And they're very frustrated with it being that scenario.
00:31:28
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well frustrated is a good word to use because the the tone kinda shifts as everyone was so excited and looking forward to this day
00:31:39
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kind of a deflating moment as we actually get into the Hall of Justice and they're like, all right, you guys have access to the gym and the library. Make yourselves at home. We're gonna take this more important and confidential call over here. And everybody but Speedy is pretty cool with that. They're like, all right, let's just slump down on the couch. But Speedy's like immediately like, hold up. This was supposed to be the day. And that's when we find out that green arrow
00:32:08
Speaker
was not as protective with some information as he should have been as far as the actual headquarters for the Justice League goes. He knows that it's actually located in a satellite that orbits space, which was another one of my favorite moments there. The first time I watched it, I noticed that Batman definitely gave Green Arrow a menacing look, but it's not just Batman. It's also pretty much every member that's there, their eyes narrow on him. You're invited to take a vacation.
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00:33:41
Speaker
But there's something about Batman doing it where you look at him and you're just like, oh, you're in trouble, Ollie. That's right. But I was I'm actually I was legitimately surprised by how unrelenting Speedy Roy Harper was and his lambasting of not only the Justice League and his mentor, but, you know, his his fellow sidekicks and he's pretty
00:34:06
Speaker
clear about the fact that he thinks they're being treated like kids or even worse sidekicks. And it really doesn't take much beyond that for him to quit. And I was a little surprised that Green Arrow didn't put up much of a fight at all. I know they got that call for another mission that came in that kind of distracted them, but the moment still wasn't lost upon me. What'd you think about Roy's departure?
00:34:32
Speaker
Yeah, being told that a villain is trying to block the sun kind of takes priority over trying to chase after a kid. But I feel like we discussed Roy Harper's potentially being the oldest in the crew and I feel like that's kind of a factor on the way he reacted because
00:34:49
Speaker
Kid Flash and Robin probably haven't had to have dealt with it as long as Roy has. So if there is a four or five year difference between them, and he finally gets his opportunity, and he knows information that the others don't, to still be told, hey, you're not ready, it's kind of like, well, screw you, like, I've done this by myself before, I've worked on my own, I've been dealing with this nonsense for X amount of years, like, if you guys don't want to have me, then I'll just go do it by myself.
00:35:19
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Yeah. So I see his frustration compared to the other three because from my understanding, I think I remember this correctly, but Wally West is Barry Allen's nephew in this show.
00:35:34
Speaker
Correct. Yeah, Wally. So he's grown up with it being in the family. Robin was adopted by... This is Dick Grayson, by the way. Dick Grayson, Robin. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if they mentioned that. I don't think it's been established. I was assuming that we're working with Dick Grayson, but I don't think there's been any concrete evidence that has stated that to be a fact and what I've viewed so far. Surprise is Dick Grayson. Like I said, I assumed as much.
00:36:01
Speaker
So yeah, Dick Grayson was adopted by Bruce Wayne, so it's like he's grown up in this. For the two of them, for the three of them, even Aqualad, it's just kind of like you don't disrespect your king, so if he says something, you kind of go with it. So for the three of them, it's a matter of like, all right, like we grew up with this, if you need us to wait, we'll wait, like they're frustrated, but it's not like the end of the world either until Roy kind of pokes at them to like,
00:36:25
Speaker
Maybe he has a point and then it comes down to like kids being kids Just want to be like rebellious against what the grown-ups told them one fun thing about the Zeta tubes is that you see them like give a code number and then their name the numbers are actually in the order that they join the Justice League and
00:36:44
Speaker
Interesting. I did wonder because I noticed it kind of hopped around a little bit. The one that stuck out to me was Red Tornado being 16, and I wondered because the other one started with zero. I assumed that was because he was such a late edition, but I thought maybe it was the fact that he was an android. Maybe there was a different designation for artificial beings, but that makes sense. That's the order that they joined. Good catch there.
Justice League & Young Heroes' Frustration
00:37:11
Speaker
Yeah, you actually end up getting a lot of backstory of Red Tornado and how he was made and not going to get into it, but they actually do dwell into his backstory. And I actually do have the list of active Justice League members at this point in the order that they were initiated, if you're interested in that. Yeah, go for it. That'd be cool to hear, yeah.
00:37:30
Speaker
All right, so it starts off with the original seven. So the founding members in order of initiation were Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Hal Jordan, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter. So their numbers go in that order. So it'll be like zero, one, Superman, zero, two, Batman. And then after that, it was Green Arrow, Hawkman, and then Hawkwoman. He was zero, eight, right?
00:38:01
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Yes, Green Arrow would be 8, Hawkman would be 9, Hawkwoman would be 10. Zatara is 11, Captain Adam is 12, Black Canary is 13, John Stewart Green Lantern is 14, Captain Marvel aka Shazam is 15, and then Red Tornado is 16. And these are the active members at the beginning of season one. Very good. Cool.
00:38:28
Speaker
Kind of moving on from there, we kind of mentioned part of the reason, you know, Roy doesn't get the attention that he necessarily deserves. I mean, he didn't really seem like he wanted anybody to go after them, but we get not one distress call, but two distress calls simultaneously. The first of which was a fire at Cadmus, which immediately gets Batman's attention. He says something along the lines that he'd been looking into Cadmus for a while.
00:38:56
Speaker
And then the second mission you mentioned it was something blocking out the Sun like I didn't pick up on that as well I saw that the character was a Magician type. I didn't pick his name up Exactly, but it sounded like he was connected to Zatanna. I'm familiar with Zatanna as a Magic user in the DC universe, but I'm not quite sure who that gentleman was. Can you give me more details on on that? It sounded like you you knew what was going on there a little bit more than I did
00:39:24
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I don't remember who they mentioned, but they said that somebody was doing something to block out the sun and all leaguers are requested to assist. So Superman started off with saying, like, hey, there's this fire, we should deal with it. And then Zatara, who is Zatana's father.
00:39:45
Speaker
is the one who came up and he was like, hey, I need everyone's help. I guess it doesn't really matter who it was at the end of the day.
Cadmus Mission & Discoveries
00:39:51
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The fact of the matter is it's something that required the full league's attention and kind of put us in this position where these young heroes, having just kind of felt like they were put to the side,
00:40:04
Speaker
they see hey this is a perfect opportunity you guys have something bigger to deal with let us take care of this fire and their mentors are like uh no i know flash specifically says you're not trained and kid flash says since when and he says you're not trained to work as part of this team which is pretty critical because i think that's a major thrust going forward we see
00:40:28
Speaker
them take up the mantle and decide to go on this mission anyway. But there are definitely some growing pains and they have to learn to work as a team. And it's a pretty cool thing to see, but we can kind of get into the exact details of that as we move on. But they do decide to go against their mentor's orders. And if I'm not mistaken, it was kind of Robin who leads the charge there, right?
00:40:52
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Yeah, they kind of bring it up. Aqualot kind of briefly says, like, oh, well, what can we do about it? It's like, well, the computer does use the Batcave system, which I'm capable of hacking into. And real quick, the magic villain is Wotan. OK, cool. Cool. Thanks for looking at that. I'm not going to say any more about him because he comes up later, but he is a magic user and an enemy of Zatara. OK. Based on name alone, I don't recognize him.
00:41:20
Speaker
It's pretty cool looking. Anyway, picking up after a little bit of deliberation, not much at all, I'd say at this point the three of them are pretty much on the same page in terms of wanting to get this done. They make their way to Cadmus where we kind of get to see
00:41:43
Speaker
those initial growing pains. Kid Flash is the first one to kind of rush in and Aqualad makes the comment, does he always do this? Just rush in without a plan, we need a plan. And he goes to look over to Robin and Robin's not there either. But Robin actually saves Kid Flash from an untimely fall there, but they make their way into the Cadmus lab and things are not what they seem pretty quickly. We get exposed to some unsightly testing
00:42:12
Speaker
and projects going on. Yeah. On the, on the entry of the building, I actually made a note that said they're definitely all used to working alone with Aqualad being the only like, cause he's part of like, I guess, Atlantis military. So he works with people. He's worked with warriors before, whereas the other two only really work with their mentors or go on patrols on their own in their respective cities. Sure.
00:42:40
Speaker
So for Aquila to just kind of want to come up with a plan and then you see him Saving some of the firefighters on his own and Robin's like I knew you got it So it's like Robin does have that The intel of knowing who's good at what who's proficient at work working working with enough people to understand how they operate But you see that lack of working in a team environment
00:43:02
Speaker
And yeah, as you said, you go in and you see the genomorphs, which is this alien species that's been working on the sub-levels of Cadmus. The Cadmus building itself is a front for all these experiments that are going on.
00:43:18
Speaker
you see Guardian being a hero that's like head of security but these genomorphs because of their telepathic abilities are actually putting him under mind control so the head scientist that's there is like bossing around so every time he's being a hero and trying to like doubt and think logically it's like oh what's Robin doing over here like we need to go talk to them and not just go attack it's like no we're gonna go attack and it's like Jedi mind trick of
00:43:46
Speaker
I will go attack. And it's like, yeah, we can't let anybody know this is here because our... How did they describe it? The Cadmus board of directors? Correct, yeah. Would be very... The guy's Dr. Desmond. He constantly refers to the board. And I know at some points he says that they'll have his head and the board serves the light.
00:44:14
Speaker
Don't have a lot of clarity on what the light is, but I think we start to get some idea by the end of this two episode arc. But one of the things about the genomorphs, I don't know if the term genomorph existed before or after the Alien movie, but I gotta believe that that's some kind of weak and nod to the xenomorphs from the Alien movies. Genetically altered xenomorphs? Maybe?
00:44:44
Speaker
Yeah, let's, let's go for that. I mean, they kind of resemble them in a lot of ways, but there's a lot of variants. You get like these ones, these lumbering ones that are kind of, they walk on their, their front limbs, kind of like a gorilla and they're kind of like cave trolls. And then there are smaller ones that are a little more agile and reptilian.
00:44:59
Speaker
And then the ones that are like three stories tall that are able to like help with construction projects, and then the ones that actually operate, they walk and talk like humans. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But we find that Cadmus is they're basically creating these, they're genetically engineering an army, these living weapons, and as they make their way deeper and deeper,
00:45:21
Speaker
they come across the ultimate of these weapons. And it's not something I think anyone was expecting to see our characters chief among them, but it looks to be a young Superman. So after some deliberation, they decide to release him, which in the immediate consequences turns out to be not the best idea because this,
00:45:48
Speaker
young Superman, I guess he's a clone, we'll say a genetically engineered clone of Superman. He is under the influence of these Genomorphs and immediately does what he was made to do, be the ultimate weapon. And he pretty quickly incapacitates the three heroes. And it's pretty brutal. I kind of talked to you before we started recording, but the intensity of this battle in particular
00:46:17
Speaker
is pretty intense without ever getting too graphic. There's way to every punch, the power set that Superboy has, the super speed. I felt myself being very concerned for these heroes. I was afraid that there was gonna be maybe not everybody was gonna make it out.
00:46:35
Speaker
And after they get captured and like Superboy starts to contemplate and like get his conscious of like, should I help them? Like you, you see him actually question or was it kid flash who actually says like, should we probably shouldn't piss off the person who could like blast us with heat vision? He was like, Oh, look at you guys. No heat vision. Yeah.
00:46:53
Speaker
I'm not going to get too deep into it, but one of the things that I really appreciate about this show is that one thing I, I'm not going to say hate, that displeases me about DC Comics and DC Properties is when Superman is the strongest thing in the world and like nothing can ever poke him.
00:47:14
Speaker
They constantly show in this series that that's not the case. Like, I want to say that him, Captain Adam, Shazam, and Aquaman are about the same physical power level. Interesting. And they show that with the fight between Superboy and Aqualad as well, because they can go toe to toe. Their power level is about the same. They just have different powers that, like, one beats the other type of thing.
00:47:39
Speaker
Sure, Superboy is stronger, but you can see that they can actually get into an engagement. It's not like Aquila just punching him in Superboy to stand there like, haha, this tickles. Yeah, that's a totally fair point. It is pretty well balanced between the heavy hitters, and Robin in particular knows that he's not the heaviest of hitters, and strategy is one of his key components when it comes to taking on
00:48:07
Speaker
enemies outside of his weight class and they express that really well after they they break out superboy and he says he basically joins the team at that moment and then when dr. Desmond takes that potion I guess the project blockbuster
00:48:26
Speaker
yeah which made him like this giant hulk like behemoth um you see that kid flash is obviously rash like he's trying to use his speed to get the hits in super boy is like anger filled punches but like you see he has
00:48:45
Speaker
Like he's actually aiming for certain things So it's like when he was going up against aqua and pin him against the wall like he was going and getting those kidney shots He was getting the leg shots. He knows that a block he knows that if so he has fighting experience Yeah, yeah, but the whole time Robin is just kind of like I know I can't do this So it's like let me observe analyze and come up with the solution which ended up being taking down the columns and dropping the whole building and
00:49:08
Speaker
Which, I didn't, it didn't click to me the first time I watched this but before recording when I watched it again I was like I love how they went there because the building was on fire and now they're leaving with the whole building just being on the ground. Yeah, yeah. There's no more fire! It's like yeah, despite the consequences, good job. But it's kind of, I like the fact that you mentioned that
00:49:33
Speaker
Superboy and Aqualad are kind of on equal terms in regards to their power level. Because it is Aqualad, there's kind of a begrudging mutual respect there. Aqualad is kind of the one that's able to get through to him. And I guess it's revealed that Aqualad has some level of telepathic ability because he's able to reach in and get through to Superboy despite the genomorph influence. And that's when, you know,
00:50:02
Speaker
I'm actually gonna, I'm gonna cut you off on that. I thought about that and it actually isn't telepathic ability. It's Aqualad understanding Superman's powers enough to know that he has super hearing.
00:50:14
Speaker
So it's Aqualad speaking softly enough that Dr. Desmond and Guardian don't realize he's talking, but Superboy can actually hear him down the hall. Oh, that's awesome. I'm so glad you clarified that. Yeah, that makes so much more sense. I'm glad. But either way, it still endears him to Aqualad in some way. So he comes back and that's when you get that kind of funny comment about
00:50:38
Speaker
Do you really want to, you know, tick off the guy that could fry us with one look and he's like, that's when he's throughout this episode, we got, we kind of get to see him test his abilities. He doesn't have heat vision. Um, you know, they're down there on the 42nd level.
00:50:55
Speaker
when, you know, Dr. Desmond releases all the genomorphs on every single level, and that's when it's kind of like this escape from the tower. That's when they really come into their own and have to figure out how to work as a team to get up these 42 levels, and that's where you get to see, you know, Superboy be the brawler. But as far as him testing his powers, you have that really nice moment in the elevator where he goes to jump up and he's like, oh, a Superman can fly, why can't I fly?
00:51:21
Speaker
And you can tell it really hard broken. Yeah, you can really tell it really hit them. But then, of course, while he's right there, it's like, hey, man, it looks like you can you can leave buildings in a single bound. That's not bad. And those are the little things where it's like if you've watched prior shows or read comics or whatnot. So it's those little one liners where it's like, I know where you got that from. They're really holding true to like the source material. But but their creativity is really something else. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.
00:51:48
Speaker
But in the final confrontation here, Guardian does get taken up pretty easily. And then it really does come down to them fully working as a team.
Superboy & Team Dynamics
00:51:58
Speaker
And that involves employing Robin's Pinship for strategy. They're able to take out all the pillars and effectively drop the building on Dr. Desmond and incapacitate him.
00:52:10
Speaker
I guess it's important to kind of rewind a little bit. There was a character that was like the chief. I find myself wanting to say Xenomorph. I have to actually like focus to say. But I guess his name was Double X and he kind of reveals that he was the chief instigator or catalyst for this whole series of events. He's the one that started the fire at Cadmus because he wanted to give Superboy the opportunity to choose and he ultimately chooses freedom.
00:52:39
Speaker
yet there's definitely um... again without trying not to get too much in the future episodes but there is a big story with them and extraterrestrial characters on a whole level because as i mentioned there's two green lanterns who are ready in the justice league and they they they're actually like ambassadors and uh... i'm forgetting
00:53:06
Speaker
Liaisons, they're liaisons with the Lantern Corps. So they are actually protecting their sector and there's a lot of stuff that happens. So the world is familiar with aliens. They don't know about the Watchtower, which I like that they pointed out, that like the world doesn't know the Watchtower is there. No one knows that's where the Justice incorporates.
00:53:23
Speaker
that actually is a Justice League secret, but aliens are not so much a secret because they do operate outside of the planet. And that's something that happens a lot in this series. Yeah, you bring that up. It was a really cool moment after, I guess,
00:53:44
Speaker
Desmond after he takes project blockbuster that's actually a nod to a character from the comics because you know Superman refers to him as the blockbuster creature later on but it was really cool to see like the full league kind of descend upon our heroes in this in the midst of this rubble and you know I definitely noticed at least two or three green lanterns amongst them. Captain Adam it was kind of cool to see him Shazam you definitely see hot girl
00:54:12
Speaker
And definitely one of the things that kind of stood out to me about the scene is when Superboy gets to see the moon for the first time, they told them that they would show him the moon and Superman, but he gets to see both simultaneously. And it's a little bit of an ominous moment. Superman is obviously visibly disturbed by the presence of Superboy, as is the entire league. Superboy kind of announces himself, I'm Superman's clone.
00:54:38
Speaker
But it's really interesting to see Superman. He's normally so sure of himself and so such a stalwart representation of what it is to be a hero. It's kind of interesting to see him unnerved and not not sure what to do in this situation, even though it's a very brief exposure with Superboy that he has there.
00:55:01
Speaker
You catch that in Batman's dialogue too, where he, like, obviously he doesn't have many facial expressions, but the way that he says, is that what I think it is? Like, that's something they've worried about before. Right. Yeah. Um, but, um, for like, when I first watched the show, like I didn't watch any trailers, I didn't know anything about it. It was just kind of like, okay, these people keep talking about him. I was like, give it a shot. So if the ending of the first episode of seeing Superboy didn't make me go, Oh shit. Yeah.
00:55:31
Speaker
all the Justice League members fly again. Like I was ecstatic. Like at that point when I realized that not only are these characters involved, but they come up frequently and they're actually a part of the story and they actually matter. That's when I was like, Oh, I'm sold. This isn't just a show about sidekicks. Like sure. It's heavy on the quote unquote sidekicks, but these guys are a huge factor in everything that happens going forward.
00:56:00
Speaker
Well that definitely bodes well and that makes me excited to continue to cover the series. I mean it's obviously
00:56:07
Speaker
got an audience that's so passionate about it for a reason, but you compared it to one of your favorite fandoms before as far as being up there with the MCU for you. And I think one of the things that is so successful about the MCU is that interconnectivity, that it rewards people for coming back, for repeat viewings, for catching those references, for understanding those relationships between characters. So if that's something to look forward to,
00:56:34
Speaker
It definitely, definitely makes me excited. But just to kind of put a little capstone on these first two episodes in terms of the arc that we see our characters take, in terms of the Justice League, you know, descending upon them and kind of voicing their concern. I won't say disapproval, I'll say concern. They kind of make it seem like they're going to put the kibosh. It's like, all right, we appreciate the results here, but this kind of thing is not happening again. And that's where you get to see Superboy and his full angst kind of come out and say,
00:57:05
Speaker
This is happening. You can either get with it or get out of the way. And that's a really cool way to end the episode because that's really what these kind of heroes are all about. It's stepping into their own, making their own decisions, and fighting the good fight. I think Batman later on in the series, he says... Actually, I think it was in this episode when they make their way to their new headquarters, he says, if you guys are determined to fight the good fight, you're going to do it on leaked terms.
Young Justice's Future & Praise
00:57:35
Speaker
But that's when we get introduced to a few more characters. You want to talk about any of those?
00:57:39
Speaker
Yeah, Superboy's definitely got some balls for only being 16 weeks old and talking up to Batman like that. So yeah, they do go to their new lair and Batman makes it very clear that the Justice League is so busy with the big stuff and the big villains and the stuff that the population of the world can see that they need a covert team. And that's what the four of now five of them because they introduced Miss Martian at the end of it.
00:58:24
Speaker
And they are the guys to do it. They're like, all right, you guys have enough skill set, but here's the rules. You work under the Justice League, red tornado's gonna be your, what do they call it in Boy Scouts? The den scout, the den mom? The scout leader or the?
00:58:39
Speaker
You'll see more about
00:58:43
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I wasn't in Boy Scouts long enough to be able to pull that one off the top. I think it was a Den Mom or something like that. But yeah, Red Tornado's gonna be like the RN of the dorms. He's gonna be living there, he's gonna be supervising, and then when the lead needs him, he goes out. Black Canary comes in.
00:59:00
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Not only is she there in charge of their training, but she actually She feeds the role of like a psychologist down the road, too So it's like there's a lot of debriefs that happen with her So she's making sure that everyone's mental state is good just as much of their physical state
00:59:16
Speaker
And then my favorite part of it, because I love Batman so much, Batman actually assigns the missions. So before they go out, Batman goes into their lair and he is like, here's the problem, this is what you guys are gonna do, like you guys report to me and me alone.
00:59:34
Speaker
It's just like, I get to see Batman in every episode, yay! Yeah, it's pretty cool. You kind of get a feeling for how the series is going to go forward in terms of the roles that everybody's going to be serving. And Batman is very much their M, if you're a James Bond fan, or their Charlie for Charlie's Angels. That's probably outside of this particular Phantom's taste, but you get the reference.
01:00:03
Speaker
But just to kind of encapsulate what took place over this, we get to see the formation of this Young Justice team battling against Cadmus. And it just does a really good job of showcasing what everybody brings to the team, doing a good job of giving us a nice taste of their personality.
01:00:30
Speaker
I've already really praised the animation style as well as the action, but I think it's worth bringing up that the voice acting is top notch. There's not a single weak performance in there. It's all believable, never takes me out of it. So I mean, if this is the level of quality we have to look forward, I'm really excited.
01:00:52
Speaker
I know we said that I don't keep up with the behind the scenes stuff too much, but when I was watching the credits, I totally forgot that Jesse McCartney was the voice of Robin. Oh yeah, yeah.
01:01:03
Speaker
for all the Disney fans singing days. I saw that beautiful soul just got stuck in my head right away. There was just one more note that I had that I wanted to mention. When everybody was encapsulated, Dr. Desmond started to say, begin the cloning process of the sidekick.
01:01:26
Speaker
I loved Robin's line of the Batcave is crowded enough as it is. There is a lot of little nods like that, that hint to the fact that there's more characters and more stuff going on behind the scenes that all come in later. Interesting. And this being, um, Dick Grayson, you know that there's other characters in the Bat family that could potentially be popping up. Hmm. All right. Well, that's a good thing.
01:01:56
Speaker
good knowledge to keep in the back pocket there. I guess the only really last thing I've got here is I guess this will kind of inform some of the threads for the season going forward. I mean, for all intents and purposes, this is a pretty self-contained story arc here, but we do get a little stinger at the end where we see
01:02:15
Speaker
uh... the board or i i don't know if this is the border the lights who they're supposed to be exactly but it's it's basically you get it's kind of a classic look where it's a a board of anonymous anonymous leaders where they're all kind of obscured in their own these uh... digital monitors but uh... they're they basically alluded to the fact that's even though superboy got away and he's a part of this team it's not necessary a loss on their and they can still find ways to use them to
01:02:42
Speaker
use him to their advantage so that's definitely something I'll be I'll be keeping an eye on that wasn't lost on me I'm just going to sit and listen to your speculation of who you think who they are and what their goals are because I don't want to accidentally spill anything well it'll be interesting to see because I have to kind of think that their
01:03:03
Speaker
Their purposes aren't entirely nefarious because when Superboy first introduced himself and he's kind of talking about the things that he learned from the genomorphs is that he was created to replace the Superman should he ever perish.
01:03:17
Speaker
or destroy him if he ever turns from the light. So that's the question. It's like, what does it mean to turn from the light? Because obviously they seem okay with how Superman is currently operating. And maybe there's something going on that I don't know about. I mentioned the fact that this is a Superman that seems a little more unnerved than previous iterations. So maybe there is. I can see you kind of biting your lip there, so. But this seems like a good place to kind of wrap up our thoughts here.
01:03:48
Speaker
I think this was a good conversation and a great debut episode for animation deliberation for our listeners. I certainly hope they enjoyed it and they'll continue this journey with us as we tackle not only the various arcs of season one, but we'll cover season two, season three. And then I'm hoping sooner rather than later here, we get an official release date for season four and we can really kind of schedule things out and attack this thing with a lot of momentum.
01:04:18
Speaker
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this rewatch because there's so much speculation after every episode and that's why I hold it to an MCU regard because the possibilities of where they go and what they do are endless and they find ways to surprise you.
01:04:36
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All right. Well, I think that unless you have anything else you want to offer there, uh, we'll kind of wrap things up here for the animation deliberation podcast. My name is Jay Scotty, St. Clair. Uh, you can find me on Twitter at Jay Scott for real. Thank you for joining us today. Stay well. Yeah. We'll look forward to hearing from more from myself and zoo hair and, uh, look forward to all the great shows on the stranded panda network. We've got the MCU podcast, the star Wars universe podcast, the Star Trek universe podcast.
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as well as DC on screen. It's a great family of podcasts that are geared towards entertainment along these lines. If you're geeky, nerdy, have any level of interest in any of these kind of fandoms, Stranded Panda is the place for you. So all you animation fans, tell your friends, tell your family, take care.
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Stay well.
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