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Makeup In Star Wars, Ships and Toxic Fandom w/ Crystal Kyber
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This week, we talked about creating Star Wars content, the best and worst parts of the fandom, makeup in and out of Star Wars and more! This episode features special guest Crystal Kyber!
This is the Wayseekers is a Star Wars podcast, with new episodes every other Friday @ 8:00am CT. Join your hosts Austin SWE, Jedi Chelsea and Scotty Holiday SW as they navigate their ways through the Star Wars galaxy.
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00:00:00
Speaker
oh my fucking god lumpy is back all i can say is i don't like it i don't know why my brain was just like gay rights let's just be honest speaking of
Humorous Intro and Guest Welcome
00:00:09
Speaker
makeup it is so terrible like i'm logging on they're drinking the red milk what is your opinion on zeb and callus oh husbands that's kind of that's how i ended up here
00:00:37
Speaker
We're all going to stare at Crystal until she says something funny. I didn't need to say anything. She would just sit there and serve looks. Yes, exactly. Okay. Perfect. That's me the whole time. You were just asking me questions and I'm like, please, genuinely, just do the whole podcast. Interpretive dancing.
00:00:58
Speaker
Oh, the 2003 model pose. Right. Like the Zoolander face that they do, like the, I can't, yes! Okay, okay.
00:01:11
Speaker
Well, there we go. That's the intro. Oh, God. Hello, everyone.
Meet Krystal: Content Creator and Star Wars Fan
00:01:18
Speaker
Welcome back to This Is The Wayseekers, a very special episode, because as you may see, we are doing our we are having our very first guest on the podcast. Her name is Krystal, as in Kyber Krystal's, as in the things from Star Wars, as she says in her intro. Krystal, how are you doing? Welcome to This Is The Wayseekers.
00:01:41
Speaker
Hi, I'm doing well. I'm honestly so excited to be here. Longtime listener, big fan of all three of you. So I feel very special right now. You should. We're a big fan of you.
00:01:53
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Like you may know Crystal from her YouTube, Twitter, TikTok, mostly YouTube, though. You've been doing a lot of great content on YouTube. And we recently met Crystal. Well, I'm recently met Crystal, Chelsea recently met Crystal. But Scotty, I want to ask you because you're the one who brought Crystal into our lives. So explain what
Connecting Through Star Wars
00:02:18
Speaker
happened there. How did this happen?
00:02:21
Speaker
It's kind of a funny story because Crystal and I both kind of lurked around in the pink milk live chats like pour one out for pink milk. And we kind of we kind of kind of connected through there. And it was funny because when Crystal started following me, she was doing like a hiatus with her content. So she started following me and I was like, who is this girl that like
00:02:45
Speaker
makes youtube content but isn't currently making content like she's a creator but she's like on hiatus it was odd but i followed her back because like oh she slays so like i'm gonna follow her back and from there we you know as i've met all of you basically
00:03:02
Speaker
Twitter, we just started commenting on each other's shit. And I was like, Oh, our humor seems to be the same. Like, we're vibing, I would actually hang out with her. So it was just like, let me send a little DM and be like, Hey, girl, that was so funny. And I mean, would you agree? Is there anything I'm forgetting?
Playful Banter: BDSM Padme
00:03:21
Speaker
No, not at all. I think Yeah, I just like really, like fucked with your content. Can I say that on here?
00:03:32
Speaker
Yeah, I just like really fucked with your content. I thought it was really cool. You know, try to support people that I really like. So I think what brought us really together was BDSM Padme.
Star Wars Ships and Relationships
00:03:49
Speaker
It was because I felt like I got what you were like I picked up what you're putting down. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Maybe we need to put a photo of BDSM Padme in post. Oh, it's on my YouTube channel. So Oh, you mean the one from Attack of the Clones?
00:04:09
Speaker
Yeah, it's with the chain, the little toy. When she's not supposed to be seducing Anakin, right. Yeah, but today we're going to be talking about lots of different relationships in Star Wars because Crystal is into ships, but not those types of ships.
00:04:26
Speaker
these types of ships, the romance types of ships. So I'm super excited to get into all
Choosing Jedi Roles
00:04:31
Speaker
that. But before we do, I want to introduce Chelsea and Scotty as well. My two wonderful co-hosts that are with me all the time. We're going to do a little icebreaker question today. So there are four different types of Jedi, I feel like. There's the Scholar, the Diplomat, the Explorer, and the Guardian.
00:04:51
Speaker
An example of the scholar would be like Jocasta Nu, you know, like the librarian, you know, keeping the information up or keeping it from people. A diplomat is someone like Qui-Gon Jinn, who is wanting to solve issues, go to different worlds and solve issues instead of trying to fight. He wants to protect the peace, but he doesn't want to fight. Someone like an explorer is like Cal Kestis. I thought that was a great example because
00:05:18
Speaker
Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor is a game about exploring. So by default, what is in there? And an example of a guardian is someone like Anakin, you know, just the typical Jedi who is out there fighting. So out of these four scholar, diplomat, explorer and guardian Chelsea, which one would you be?
00:05:39
Speaker
I would definitely be a scholar because like I was talking about last week, I'd be a very flop actual Jedi because of my anxiety. And also I always talk about how like I would love to just get endless degrees and not actually like have a job. So I feel like being a scholar would be like perfect for me like to just live in the fucking archives and be able to like mansplain shit to other Jedi, like info dump.
00:06:04
Speaker
About my like special interest of the one fucking book in the jet like I I think I'd really excel I also think yes I'd be a lot more fun than jacasta new like she's chill but especially after reading rise of the red blade I'm like lady you got a bit of a stick up your ass
00:06:21
Speaker
So I would be like the cool librarian, like the queer one where it's like the one teacher at school where you're like, oh, that bitch is gay and I can trust them. Like that would be me in the Jedi archive. So as much as I think it'd be fun to be an explorer or maybe a guardian, I'm definitely a scholar.
00:06:40
Speaker
I feel like you would be like the Miss Frizzle. Yes. I literally, I was picturing her in my head, but I couldn't. I was like, why can't I remember her name? And I was like, we even have the same color hair. So yeah, I would love to be a Miss Frizzle, but in Star Wars. And iconically voiced by Lily Tomlin. Very gay. So like, it's perfect. Very eccentric.
00:07:05
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. I think that fits you well, Chelsea. Scotty, what would you be out of these four?
00:07:13
Speaker
I had to really think about not what I would want to be, but like how I am and how my brain works. So I really think I would be the diplomat, which is not that exciting, but I'm always trying to like get both sides of the story and like really figure out what the issue is bringing people together. Like, yeah, I'll pull out my weapon if it comes to that, but like that's not gonna be my first focus. I don't really like violence anyway. So I probably would not be the best on the battlefield.
00:07:42
Speaker
And I think that that would probably where I would fit in. Plus, you know, back in the old days when lightsaber colors like match your like status as a Jedi, I would have a green lightsaber. Like I have no blue lightsaber. So that would be me, the diplomat.
00:08:00
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all about that green lightsaber agenda. Yeah, I think that fits you, that fits you well too. You're like the, you're a planner as well, like with the podcast, little behind the scenes thing here. Scotty is all about trying to like plan. Scotty's the one put like a calendar together. I don't, I don't do that. To my death for men, but yes. And with their own content as well. I'm like, wow, amazing. So yeah, I think that fits you well. Crystal, out of these four, what would you be?
00:08:30
Speaker
I would want to be the explorer. I think it would be so cool to check out all the planets, meet the people, meet the creatures. I also really love Pokemon, so I feel like it would be kind of like that, doing different missions. I don't know. I think that would be so much fun. Just something different every day.
00:08:52
Speaker
Yeah, I love that. I love that. And it's funny because I met you from Scotty's Jedi survivor streams. So that's how I met you from. Full circle. Full circle. Well, you guys all gave kind of wholesome answers and I'm going to be honest, I would want to be in your boat. But I feel like if I was in Star Wars, there's so much shit going on. I would be too chaotic. I would be the Guardian. I'm going to be like Anakin where, you know,
00:09:21
Speaker
The droids are fucking us up. I'm going to slice through them. I'm sorry, but I got to protect my piece, okay? And everyone else is in the process. I got to put me first. I got to put me first. We're a pretty well-rounded group. I think each of us said nobody repeated, right? We all said a different one.
00:09:46
Speaker
Hell yeah. I love that. I thought that we were all going to pick the same one. So this is actually kind of exciting. I was like, I'm going to be an explorer just like everyone else. Yes, we are the Jedi Council if they slayed. So exactly.
Krystal's Star Wars Journey
00:10:04
Speaker
Well, like we talked about, one thing that really brings us together is that we all make content creation. We do the podcast, we have our YouTube channels, our Instagrams, our Twitters, all this stuff. And it's really something that brings us together at the end of the day because we're all kind of like
00:10:21
Speaker
on the smaller side too where it's like we're kind of a community stick together and it's been really fun but i want to talk about how we got into that but i think first let's rewind it back all the way to the beginning and crystal i want to ask you the most basic question that you will ever get asked on the star wars podcast how did you get into star wars
00:10:45
Speaker
I feel like I've been preparing for this question my whole life. So buckle up. So I grew up on Star Wars. My dad is a huge Trekkie, Star Trek, sci fi nerd. So I pretty much have been watching Star Wars since I could remember. I loved
00:11:09
Speaker
Return of the Jedi, when I was little kid, like that was the movie that I would have on repeat, you know, kids like get stuck on movies, that was like me. And then I remember I saw Phantom Menace in theaters with my dad and my brother. And that was like, so cool. I remember thinking it was so cool. And I actually really loved the prequels. But I didn't know that they were like lame. Like,
00:11:36
Speaker
I didn't I didn't know that people didn't like them probably until I was like in high school and that's when I started to kind of like not really talk about You know how much I love stuff because people would just make fun of you, you know So I kind of like held back on that for a while and then the sequels came out and it was very exciting to be a Star Wars fan again and I saw I've seen every
00:12:00
Speaker
movie since the prequels in theaters with my brother. So it's like a really special thing for him and I. But yeah, that's it in a nutshell.
Star Wars and High School Experiences
00:12:10
Speaker
It's really funny. And like, I feel like you can tell that we're the same age, Crystal, because my story is very much the same as yours, where I was super into Star Wars as a kid. I kind of did the opposite where I saw The Phantom Menace. That was my first intro to Star Wars. But then after that, I wanted to consume all the content.
00:12:30
Speaker
And my stepdad introduced me to the original trilogy. So like it was like Phantom Medicine original trilogy in like a rotation because watching the same movies over and over again. Right. Right. And I also learned people didn't like the prequels. And on top of that, people were like, ew, Star Wars is for nerds. And I'm like, well, I want to be I want to be cool. So I'm going to talk about it. And so in high school, I also kind of took a step back
00:12:56
Speaker
from Star Wars as well. And around the time that, you know, Lucasfilm was acquired by Disney, that's kind of when I got back into the fandom. So it's so funny that our stories are so similar, but I think that makes sense why Robesti's. Right, right. Yeah, when I heard your story like a few episodes ago, by the way, everyone go listen to it, it's really good.
00:13:22
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I was like dang Scotty makes sense that we're like always on the same page. Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:32
Speaker
Yeah, and we did talk about it a few episodes ago, kind of our story, Chelsea, Scotty and I. But it is funny that everybody, like Scotty mentioned and like you mentioned, Crystal, everybody kind of like got back into it once the sequels were coming out and then it became like an event, you know, every single year in December until they fucked it up that one year and did it in May, it ruined everything.
00:13:59
Speaker
They should have known that there was a pattern there to stick to it. But I think that's something that a lot of people can relate to, you know, just getting into Star Wars from the sequels. Because Chelsea, you that was kind of you as well, right? Like once The Force Awakens was releasing, you kind of got back into it.
00:14:16
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's essentially it. Like I like here and there in my childhood, my dad like like Star Wars, who wasn't like a huge fan. So like, I had a little bit of exposure. I've talked ad nauseam about how my first like intro to Star Wars was the Ewok animated series. So big jump from that to the sequels. But yeah.
00:14:36
Speaker
But the sequels were what, yeah, like really got me back into it. And then it just makes me laugh because you guys check about, oh, the prequels in high school. And I was like, oh, the force of weekends came out my senior year of high school. So it's funny how the times change though, genuinely, because at the time you guys were at that age, it wasn't cool to talk about it versus like everyone in my school was talking about Star Wars. Like it's a really, it's just interesting how it changes and like weren't bullied for it. Cause trust me, I was a super hula bitch. So I was very much,
00:15:05
Speaker
bullied for talking about my interests, but not with stuff. Yeah, I was I was too busy trying to not be queer in high school to worry about nerdy shit.
00:15:20
Speaker
Speaking of doctored who Chelsea, I've been wanting to ask you about this. I don't know if you saw on Twitter that in the Brotherhood book, there's a little reference that he was dropped off at the Jedi Order in a blue box 25,000 years ago. I love that. I love that little. That's so great.
00:15:38
Speaker
I did. I didn't know about that. I didn't know about wait, but I've read brotherhood. Have I not? How did I miss that? It must have been one of those things rushing through it so quickly to not be spoiled, but I'll have to like go through my book to trying to like actually see it myself. But yeah, no, that made my little
00:15:55
Speaker
my little hoovy and heart happy. I just also, I love David Tennant so much. He's an incredible ally too, by the way. I believe one of his children is non-binary, so he always wears a little non-binary pride pin, and he wears shirts saying, protect trans rights. And when people are like, oh, I don't like that shirt, he's essentially like, fuck off, you're stupid. So we love him as Hu Yang and as the doctor.
00:16:20
Speaker
Yes, shout out Professor Huang. I also didn't realize, someone pointed this out too, like I'm not just really oblivious when it comes to all things Dr. Hu and Huang, but Professor Huang is kind of like, because Professor is doctor and then Huang, Hu, Hu.
00:16:38
Speaker
I never realized that, but that one might be a little bit of a reach, but I'll give it to you. I mean, I don't know because there's like so many in the Clone Wars, like there's that droid that's based off like Kobe Bryant, right? And he's like purple and yellow. I know what I'm talking about. I know it's a thing. I want to put a picture in that.
00:16:59
Speaker
Sorry, audio people, there's a lot of pictures. We're going to try to do our best. We're going to try to do our best to explain it as well as we can. So there's a difference between being a Star Wars fan and, you know, being normal, probably mentally healthy. And then there's the people in the Star Wars fandom like us. So, Crystal, how did you get into the online spaces in the Star Wars fandom?
Motivations for Star Wars Content Creation
00:17:31
Speaker
Well, I decided to start making videos because it was right around the time of Mandalorian season one. That was really the thing that really sparked my love for Star Wars again. I wasn't a huge fan of the sequels when they came out. It was just exciting because it was Star Wars, but it wasn't my thing. But then the Mandalorian came out and I was just obsessed.
00:17:55
Speaker
And that's when I like dived fully into like watching the Clone Wars and Rebels and like started interacting with people on Twitter. I don't even know that there was a thing called Star Wars Twitter. I actually had like a not like a sock account, but I had like that picture of Palpatine like
00:18:15
Speaker
with his Starbucks, you know? That was like my profile picture. And that's how I would like interact with people always like through that. And I would just like shit pose and like go nuts. And I think the people in my life were just so sick of me talking about Star Wars all the time. Even my dad, who, like I said, is like a really big sci fi nerd, I would like bring up like these really crazy like ideas to him and he'd be like, all right.
00:18:47
Speaker
Cool. And so I was like watching an episode of the Clone Wars and I was like, oh my God, I need to talk about this. Who do I talk about this to? And I'm like, I need to make videos. I'm going to start making videos. And that is where it started because I was already creating content at that time. I had like a separate YouTube account. And so I was like, oh, I should just make videos about Star Wars.
00:19:12
Speaker
Right. Well, I wanted to ask you about that. Like you did content before and then it was like just makeup content or what did you do on that previous channel?
00:19:26
Speaker
I did a lot of makeup content just because, you know, I'm a makeup artist. So it's pretty easy for me to do that. And I would do a lot of vlogging because I really like vlogging. I would just like do videos throughout my day. I also do art. So I would do like art vlogs or like art, how to get out of like an art rut or I don't
00:19:48
Speaker
I don't really know what I was doing. I was just kind of doing whatever. I did like, yeah, I did like a lot of tattoo vlogs. Like I was just kind of doing whatever I was into. And I think like the idea of niching down, I hate that idea. But once I found Star Wars or like this new fire for Star Wars, it just made so much sense.
00:20:08
Speaker
right? Yeah, I think that it really shows with your content how well put together it is. I was watching your CTP video today. I was like, what the hell? This is professional. Where's the subscribers here? We need to bring them in.
00:20:26
Speaker
you deserve so much more like I feel like it's just so it's just looks so good and well put together so I feel like you can really tell that you've had experience coming into this and Scotty I think you kind of relate to that too kind of talked about a little bit of like having some experience coming into creating content so it's kind of your content creation story. I have to laugh because
00:20:52
Speaker
It's like and I don't know Austin and Chelsea if y'all dealt with this, but I can completely relate to the basically
00:20:59
Speaker
getting further into the fandom than the person that got me into Star Wars surpassing their dirtiness for it. Because my stepdad, I used to ask him questions. And now he asks me questions. And he's like, are the inquisitorious? Is that the same thing in Ahsoka as an Obi-Wan? And I'm like, yes. Just little questions like that. Do X-wings have a hyperdrive? He'll just text me random shit. And I'm like, yes, no.
00:21:27
Speaker
well actually like here's here's what it is and it's kind of the same to where when i got into the fandom i got into it so late i was watching silently
00:21:38
Speaker
from like probably 2014 or so.
Queer Representation in Star Wars
00:21:41
Speaker
Didn't even know how YouTube worked. Didn't really know how Twitter worked. I mean, Austin, you already kind of alluded to the fact that I was making music at the time. I was already doing like promo and marketing and stuff online. So I had all these accounts, but I don't know what it was. I didn't understand how to grow my following. So while I had like my Twitter account, I've had it since 2011.
00:22:03
Speaker
But I didn't start getting like a following until I got into the Star Wars fandom. For me, one of the big things was we're all the queer like Star Wars creators. Like there has to be other queer people who like Star Wars because, yeah, I can nerd out with, you know, the straight guys about it, but they're not going to be like, oh, Cal Kestis is so hot. Like, right.
00:22:28
Speaker
they're not gonna nerd out about or they're not gonna gush about Cal Kestis with me. And I'm like, I know there's other queer people or like queer adjacent who will like enjoy talking about this like dumb dumb like ships and characters that are hot with me. And from there, it kind of was similar to crystal where it was just like,
00:22:49
Speaker
I have this love for this. I don't really have anybody to talk to on my level, IRL. And on top of that, I was like, there's this void of queer Star Wars content on YouTube. Let me try to fill like this void that I'm looking for. I mean, at the time, like there was pink milk, there was, you know, chase that gay Jedi. So I also, you know, we talked about being a part of that community. They also kind of helped me
00:23:14
Speaker
have the confidence to start making my own content. I wanted to do it for so long, but I was like, oh, I don't know if people really watch. And like I said, there wasn't really a lot of queer creators. And eventually, you know, I was just like, I have to be the content that I want to see. If nobody else is doing it, you know, why don't I do it? And if it doesn't work out, oh, well, I tried. But if I have fun with it, which obviously I'm having fun with it, I'm just going to continue doing it. It's crazy how we all kind of
00:23:44
Speaker
it's relatable to where we wanna fill that space or have that outreach to talk to people and actually nerd out about this stuff with people who also are on the same level.
00:23:57
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, it's an amazing thing that we're able to come together like that. And I fully relate to you about surpassing the love of Star Wars from the person that got you into it. Because as we talked about before, my dad got me into Star Wars, didn't even tell me about the prequel trilogy. He was only into the original trilogy. So totally relate to that. But
00:24:17
Speaker
Yeah, I think what's cool too is that you guys kind of got into content creation after watching like a bunch of creators and stuff, right? Like, I feel like I've heard you guys talk about that a lot, like some of the Star Wars creators you used to watch in the past are still may watch. Let's just be honest. Say it, Austin. Go ahead.
00:24:44
Speaker
Okay, well, I think a lot of people can relate to this, so I wanted to talk about it.
00:24:50
Speaker
I think that there are sometimes a lot of Star Wars creators in this space who are, you know, people use the word toxic all the time as kind of like a buzzword. But I mean, that's that's kind of what it is. There's a lot of people on here who are trying to like sell this narrative to make money. They just act like everything is absolutely horrible because that's how they bring in viewers because people agree to that or relate to that, you know.
00:25:17
Speaker
they see something and they're like, Oh, I may not, I may not be loving what's going on in the Star Wars fandom either. Oh, here's all these videos that explain why I feel like that. You know, like it's that type of thing. And it makes so much money for these people. And I think sometimes people get caught up in that, but it's nice to see when people come out of that. And I think that you guys can relate to that, right?
Toxicity in the Fandom
00:25:41
Speaker
Yes, well, it's really hard to avoid redacted Star Wars theory. Because he's the biggest Star Wars content creator. If you type in Star Wars review, Star Wars, whatever, he's going to be the first one that pops up. And especially because he is so controversial, the clicks are there, the views are there, the comments are there. So it's kind of unavoidable, you know, and
00:26:10
Speaker
I think that it becomes like a echo chamber and people don't want to get out of it or they like refuse to see past it. Um, but yeah, I'm glad that I got out of that space too, because some of the stuff I was just like, dang, you guys are really drinking Kool-Aid here. For real. They're drinking, they're drinking the red milk. Definitely not the big milk. Okay. Disagree with this person, you know, like,
00:26:38
Speaker
Something I talked about because I was also into theory back in the day. And when the sequel started coming out with that echo chamber, eventually I got to the point where I was like,
00:26:50
Speaker
this creator is making me not like the thing that I have so much love for. And like, sure, I may not be vibing with like perfectly with what's coming out. But that doesn't mean there's not good portions that I do like, there's not little pieces I do care about. And on top of that, there's a ton of other stuff that I still love about the fandom, and about these movies about these shows, books, comics, you know, whatever.
00:27:15
Speaker
And I was like, I have to I need to get out of this because it's making me feel negative about the thing I have so much love for and that not to get all like mushy, but the thing that's like a really big part of me and who I am. Right? Yeah, absolutely.
00:27:31
Speaker
Yeah, and I think too it even goes like beyond someone like Star Wars theory like there's lots of people who kind of made it into this kind of culture war thing. We all know what that means for like queer people like us or marginalized communities and stuff, and it kind of
00:27:48
Speaker
That's why I think it's important for us to kind of fill in those voids. We have someone like Scotty whose content is very centered around the fact that they are queer and being able to embrace who they are and how that kind of goes within Star Wars. Crystal, you're someone who is a woman in this space, and it's a very male dominated space. And so that's important. And you have a unique side too with makeup and everything as well, which
00:28:16
Speaker
That's something I want to get into as well. You know, let's do a little pick me up here. How did you get into makeup? Because I know that on top of doing Star Wars content, you're also in the makeup industry and that's your full time job. So how did you first get into that? And can you talk about being in the makeup industry?
00:28:40
Speaker
Yeah, I would love to. Let's see, I started doing makeup professionally in 2014. I think it was like around that time. And I was interested in makeup because so I wanted to be a model when I was younger, but that's another here or there. Not tall enough.
00:28:59
Speaker
Also, I wasn't like the beauty standard back in the day, you know. So I was like, okay, well, I love doing photo shoots. Like I love the collaboration of like making something and like seeing it and being part of a team. So I wasn't interested in photography or styling. And I was like, let me just try hair and makeup. And like, thank God I was good at it.
00:29:21
Speaker
I didn't know what else I was going to do. And then I started doing makeup in theater. That's like really where I started to like learn how to be a makeup artist. I think we're all theater kids. Are we?
00:29:40
Speaker
I dabbled for a little bit in eighth grade, but I was a band kid in color guard. So adjacent. Okay. Visual performing arts, like we all got it covered. Right. We would have been sitting at the same table. Yeah. Yeah. We would have been bullied by the same people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. We would have definitely walked off each other in the halls at least, you know? Yeah.
00:30:09
Speaker
Um, and so I just started building my portfolio and luckily because I was like trying to model before that, I already had like a large, um, amount of photographers that I knew. So it was really easy for me to just be like, Hey, I'm doing makeup. If you need.
00:30:26
Speaker
want to do makeup like let me do it and there's like way more jobs behind camera than there is in front of the camera and so it just kind of just like really worked out.
Krystal's Makeup Industry Journey
00:30:36
Speaker
I'm pretty good at networking like I reach out to people all the time and then you know it gets to be like word of mouth too. Yeah it's been almost 10 years since I started doing makeup. I now do
00:30:49
Speaker
Like commercial work and like film stuff, but not not a whole lot. I mostly do like beauty and like print so a lot of like Brands like yesterday. I just did a shoot for Nike and Nordstrom. So that was pretty cool Yeah, and they're one of my regular clients. So I'm always like So cool
00:31:13
Speaker
You seem pretty humble about it still, so that's good too. You're not getting caught up in the scene. I feel like you have to be, especially because it's such a small community. Everyone knows each other. If you're going to suck to be around, no one wants to hire you.
00:31:30
Speaker
right right well since crystal's humble we'll be the one to say that she's fucking amazing at what she does and you can also follow her on instagram because she'll post like on new stories like some of the shoots that she's done with nike and and whatnot and also just your own content you know
00:31:46
Speaker
your content is very makeup focused as well. Like I was watching your YouTube videos and they'll be talking about different topics and such. Like I was watching talking about the books and shipping and stuff, but you're also doing a makeup look at the same time. Like that's a very unique thing. So talent. Yeah. Thank you very much.
00:32:06
Speaker
It's amazing. And Chelsea, I feel like you kind of the same way, you're super into like collecting Star Wars pins and you're into Star Wars Rebels. And that's kind of your brand when you go to Jedi Chelsea on Instagram, that's what you see. So talk about your journey in getting into the Star Wars fandom and content creation, podcasting.
Chelsea's Star Wars Fandom
00:32:28
Speaker
It's so funny to me that y'all are like, you're so well known for your pins. And I'm like, I think that's just because you guys don't collect pins. So you see and like I have a massive collection. So I've just automatically become like the pin person to you. But no, I'm like, I feel like again, I've told the story.
00:32:46
Speaker
so many times, I'll try to keep it brief. But like, similar to how Crystal and Scottie were saying, I originally made the Pinsta because I was tired of pestering and posting about pins on my personal Instagram. And I was like, I want to talk about Star Wars some more, right? So and now it's like, I've done that with multiple interests. So it's like, I have three Instagrams and three Twitters, like I keep all my niches separate.
00:33:09
Speaker
But yeah, so I joined because I wanted to collect and trade pins and actually interact with the pin creators and the artists within the community. And then I kind of stumbled upon Austin's Discord server and became friends with them that way.
00:33:26
Speaker
And then eventually they were like, do you want to be on the podcast? I was like, sure, I never shut the fuck up. I feel like I could do all right on a podcast. I have things to say. And so that's kind of that's how I ended up here. And then I don't I don't do content like y'all y'all are like doing YouTube and all these slay amazing things. And I'm just like,
00:33:46
Speaker
When I feel like posting about my collection, I'll post a picture of it. But I've been trying to do more of the kind of write-ups, because I do like doing those, especially when I can bring in social work theory, use the degree that I got, at least a little bit. And I think it ties in very well with Star Wars, because you can have very intense discussions about social justice and social movement, social change.
00:34:14
Speaker
I don't know why my brain was just like gay rights. I mean, that's part of it. But yeah, so I've been trying to do more of that. But yeah, just kind of like we've all already discussed, like really just wanting to become part of a community to talk about something that I love and that is really important to me.
00:34:34
Speaker
with people who aren't toxic and aren't like doing this like baiting negative like shit on YouTube. And I will say I was marked safe from Star Wars theory because again, I joined I made my pizza in 2021. And then when I like, I didn't know shit about anything, right? Because like when I joined Austin's Discord server, I didn't follow Star Wars editor. I had no idea who that I genuinely
00:34:57
Speaker
I really need to like go back into Austin's discord server and find the invite link I use so I can thank the random person on my pinstagram who shared that discord because my life would obviously be very different now if it weren't for that but anyway um
00:35:13
Speaker
Yeah, I really had like I had an idea that the community was could be toxic. And there was like a certain perception of Star Wars fans, especially, you know, the men. So that's I think part of the reason I kind of avoided it for so long. And then when I was it's been really cool to find a community
00:35:34
Speaker
where it's like, yeah, we can disagree about the things we like or dislike, but it doesn't become this whole thing. And we can all stand together when it comes to important moral issues and things like that. So that's been really great to be a part of that community, even if I'm on the quiet side and lurking most of the time.
00:35:55
Speaker
No, but I think you bring an interesting perspective to the podcast and that's why I brought you on top of being your friend at the time.
Austin's Content Creation Start
00:36:04
Speaker
I mean, you're the first person that I ever like flew out to go see and like hang out with and stayed with for a week.
00:36:11
Speaker
You know, you could have been a murderer for all I know. You could have been a really good actor, put it on Oscar worthy performance, but I made it, no. But yeah, I really appreciate it.
00:36:28
Speaker
stuttering is gonna make it seem like i am a murderer or something you've got a gun to awesome yeah i just green screened in my background i'm actually in the room with Austin right now
00:36:44
Speaker
I thought I heard some feedback. No, but I really appreciate having you as a friend too because what was fun too was that you didn't know who any of us were. And I think that was super fun because we have this Discord server where there's a bunch of us Star Wars creators in there and we invited Chelsea. We're just like, we want to hang out with them. We don't care if they don't have a page or whatever.
00:37:13
Speaker
I want to hang out with them, but it was fun. We would be like on BC every night, all of us, and we had the book club at the time.
00:37:21
Speaker
Yeah, what's funny about, because we're talking about content-cation and how we got into it, what's funny is I'm the youngest one here. When it comes to Star Wars content, I'm the elder. I love saying that. You're not reminding us. Yes. I'm the old man when it comes to Star Wars content because I started in 1962. No, I'm just kidding.
00:37:48
Speaker
I started in 2016, just before Rogue One, and then I was in the fandom before that. And unfortunately, I'm not marked safe from Star Wars theory, like Chelsea. But my thing was different, because I knew those people. Because being back in the fandom that long ago, and being a creator, there were way less of us. So it was like, everybody kind of knew everybody, even the bigger creators. Because I mean, some of the bigger creators,
00:38:18
Speaker
And even gotten there yet, you know what I mean? And so it was much more like a community space because when I joined Instagram, I didn't know like I wasn't trying to get followers or whatever. I did these little stupid edits of like.
00:38:34
Speaker
ships like the Star Wars spaceships. Sorry, Crystal, not like to talk edits about like, I got confused. I was like, when did you do that? Yeah, no, it was like more like these animation of like ships. But and I just posted those because I met these people that wrote like fan fiction on Instagram. And
00:38:59
Speaker
Because I was looking about that because it's going to be seven years this year in November, November 1st, 2016, and also seven years since Rogue One.
00:39:09
Speaker
fuck off. That's not real. But yeah, I started way, way long ago. And so it's been interesting because by the time I was like, I want a platform, I kind of have that already like built in. And so then I remember I downloaded Photoshop and started implementing that into my posts and doing like facts and whatnot. And then I started doing reels and then YouTube in the podcast and
00:39:37
Speaker
Now I do a million different things, but also it feels like nothing at all at the same time. But yeah, so that's kind of our journey into Star Wars concentration. And honestly, I encourage anybody to who wants to try it to try it or interact with people, interact with the fandom, because, you know, once you kind of curate your space and kind of find the people that aren't horrible,
00:40:05
Speaker
aren't trying to put laser eyes on Kathleen Kennedy. You kind of love Star Wars even more. It's nice to embrace Star Wars. I mean, we talk about voice chats after new episodes of things and talk about it. And it's been so fun. It's been fun to have people.
00:40:25
Speaker
There's a line from the sequel trilogy come on my sequel trilogy people that I can't remember that's like we're out here There's more of us or something like that. Do y'all remember the line is simply they're more of us Oh, it's a post says what I don't even remember. I don't know. I was gonna say it's from rise of Skywalker, right? Mm-hmm. There are more of us. Oh There's too many of them
00:40:48
Speaker
I'm sorry. And then it's like, there are more of us. So there may be a lot of toxic people, but there's a lot of little corners of people who are going to celebrate everybody as long as they're not a shit person. And we're going to uplift each other. So like Austin said, if you want to get into creation, try it. You may hate it. It may not be for you, but you also may love it. You never know until you try. Right. Yes.
00:41:15
Speaker
Yeah, I think one of the most satisfying moments I've had was recently with all of you where we were in Discord just hanging out. And I think we were talking about Rogue One and just Star Wars for like hours. And when I got off the video call, I was like, you know what, this is why I'm doing this. I just felt like so fulfilled to be able to like nerd out with people who are like on my level and like wanted to get into like,
00:41:42
Speaker
the nitty-gritty or like talk about like really particular things and like five different ways like I live for that and I'm just like so Appreciative to like found people who want to do that with me. It's so sick. Yeah Yes Love y'all. Love
Challenges for Female Content Creators
00:41:59
Speaker
y'all. Okay enough of that shit So crystal your your guests and
00:42:08
Speaker
in the hot seat because we're going to ask you questions now. You are the focus of the rest of this podcast. I am a Libra, so I love it. I was going to say, perfect. You're so ready. Libra, I love Libras. Sorry. I already knew I loved you, but when you just find something where it confirms the bias you already had, I'm just like, yes. Anyway, enough astrology. I'm so sorry. We could do a whole separate podcast about that.
00:42:34
Speaker
There we go, Austin. Next podcast you want to produce is the astrology podcast. Yeah. You could do like what character, like Luke would be like an air sign probably. Yeah. Oh my God. We should totally try and chart a bunch of Star Wars characters charts. We're doing sun, moon, rising, Venus, Mercury. Austin is like, I'm logging off. No, I will, I will gladly sit here and react to you guys doing that, but there's no way in hell I'm going to be like,
00:43:04
Speaker
I know my own signs. I know how to point the signs out. I can tell when someone is my sign. I'm a Taurus. I'll see a Taurus and be like...
00:43:13
Speaker
I see you. I kind of hate you. Okay, so Crystal, we all know this fandom is very male dominated. And one thing that I love about your content and how you've kind of talked about it is it's very much for the girls and gays. And so what is the most challenging part of navigating this space as a female creator?
00:43:35
Speaker
It's very difficult. I had been making Star Wars content for a year and a half, two years now, and I feel like I'm just now finding my people. And before that, it was kind of like an uphill battle of wanting to have my content be seen, but not by people who wanted to correct me all the time or who wanted to be weird about things. That's not what I'm trying to do.
00:44:01
Speaker
And I think by incorporating things like doing makeup in the videos, I think it really is targeting people who aren't into makeup, whether they're women or femme presenting or have any kind of interest in makeup. I feel like that's a good way to weed out those people.
00:44:22
Speaker
I don't know. And I want to talk about the things that maybe straight men are not super interested in. What straight man is out here talking about? Ships. Calcastas shoulders.
00:44:37
Speaker
You know what I mean? So it's like, um, those are the people that I want to surround myself with. And I want to be around people who are excited about the same things that I'm excited about. And I also think, um, when I was trying to come up with like, how, how is like my content different than everyone else's content? Like there's so many creators out here. I could sit and talk about this episode, but like, who cares?
00:45:01
Speaker
Why? And yeah, I could be like a girl, you know, but like, what else? You know, what else about what else about that? So I thought, like, oh, I could do makeup at the same time and really just cater to people who are into that, like the femmes, you know, like, you got to be a fierce ally these days, because if you're not, then it's like, what are you doing? Yeah, true.
00:45:26
Speaker
Love that. Yeah, you definitely bring a unique perspective to content creation and making unique content in that way. And that's why I feel like you bring in so many different people as well, because, you know, I feel like your content really can be for everyone. Like I'm not into makeup, but I'm sitting here watching them like, oh, like I read Dark Decide. Well, I'm interested to hear more about that.
00:45:49
Speaker
Yeah, I, I also hope that like the content is good enough that like if you're not into the makeup, like you can still like follow along, you know, I don't want it to just be like, Oh my god, like, I love makeup. You were you were still entertaining, you take the makeup away, you still make entertaining content. So if you ever worried about that, I
00:46:09
Speaker
At least to me, I'm like, I'm not necessarily going to be doing, you know, a fierce eyeliner look and, you know, uh, more than a smoky eye. So, but I'm still going to watch your video and I'm going to watch you throughout your process and just enjoy you talking about one of the things you like. You know what I mean? And something that you like. Exactly. That's, that's a little move from the videos too. Yeah.
00:46:36
Speaker
So the reason I started doing makeup in videos actually was I have two friends that I'm very close to and we will do like FaceTime dates. And it's pretty similar to like our VC hangouts where we will end up being on the phone for like hours. And something that we like to do is like we'll put on makeup at the same time. It's like three of us, they're married. And so like the three of us will just sit on FaceTime putting on makeup and just like gabbing about Star Wars and like getting into it. And I was like, why?
00:47:04
Speaker
Why are we not recording? But they don't want to be on camera, so I respect that. So I'm like, I'm just going to do this on my own then. But it kind of took something for my real life. And I was like, all right. It makes sense, because I want people to feel like they're hanging out with me. And how do I hang out with my Star Wars friends as I put on makeup with them?
00:47:21
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Yeah. And your videos have such that hangout vibe, just like you're on the phone. So I love that. Right. That's how I feel when I listen to the pod, because I see all of you so often that when I'm listening to the pod, I feel like I'm just hanging out. I'm like, yeah, listen to my friends.
00:47:41
Speaker
You find yourself responding. You're like, well, I actually think that Canaan is a great Jedi master, Scotty. I'm already typing up my comment on YouTube. Well, that makes me want to ask another question because anybody who follows your content, whether that's on one of your many platforms, definitely in your YouTube videos, knows that you love, not Grogu, but baby Yoda.
00:48:11
Speaker
And what is it about Baby Yoda that you love so much? And keep in mind, we're talking about Baby Yoda from the Mandalorian comics. I think you said it in another episode, Chelsea, where you're talking about how you love
00:48:32
Speaker
the animal from the new Outlaws, Nyx. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And you were saying like, you're a sucker for any cute animal. I was like, yeah, me too. I was right there with you. I was like, I'm getting the game for Nyx, period. But I don't know what it is about him. Like, I just love him. He is so adorable. I would own Grogu everything if I could. He's just so cute and adorable. And he has so much personality and
00:49:02
Speaker
He's not like a dog, but he's not like a baby, but it's like the same appeal of like having dog fever, like baby fever. I don't want babies, but I want a grow. I don't know what it is. It's unexplainable. It's like transcended everything for me.
00:49:19
Speaker
I mean, it transcended Star Wars at this point too in the real world. That's what I was going to say. I was like, watch Austin's Rise of Grogu video essay. It's fantastic. But no, this is going to be real. I have a Grogu doormat where it's just Grogu and it's outside and it says, welcome, I'm all ears. It's cute.
00:49:38
Speaker
But for DoorDash, for my delivery, I know I can put it, oh, leave it on the Baby Yoda doormat. And people know exactly, I've never had anyone question where to find me because it's transcendent. And maybe I'm sure there are some of my DoorDashers who are avid Star Wars fans, but I'm sure there are some who have literally never seen Star Wars, but I'm sure they know Baby Yoda. Like it really has like just
00:50:01
Speaker
He's iconic. It's like minions. I hate to know. Cut that part. Cut the cameras. And the recording. We're done.
00:50:15
Speaker
don't ever compare baby Yoda well i just in the sense like you see that video in the sense like you're on trial no but i like in the way that we see him everywhere literally everywhere if it's in the Macy's day parade then
00:50:35
Speaker
It's popular. Boomers on Facebook are making memes, you know? Right, right. And for those who haven't followed Krystal's content, she has a whole video where she just eats baby Yoda things all day long. I love that one. It's very entertaining. It's very entertaining too, but baby Yoda is everywhere. Right. That's the best video I've ever made, honestly. I need a part two baby Yoda supremacy, honestly.
00:51:06
Speaker
I have like a baby Yoda comforter set that my man will not let me. Is it the one from Target? I don't know. It has like one side is like Grogu and his like carrot circle thingy and other side is like a Mandalorian print. It's like blue teal. I think I know you won't do the Mandalorian. You just do the baby Yoda print. I have a different one. Yeah. Well, because I finally
00:51:30
Speaker
where I live in my apartment upgraded to a big kid bed. I've been on a twin and the reason I stayed on it so long is because I had like Star Wars Rebel sheets and I have a Mandalorian set of sheets for my twin bed, which now they're all at my mom's and my mom has a twin bed or I still have my twin bed at my mom's. So like when I go over there to relax, I can see my baby comforted there, but I think- Relax.
00:51:56
Speaker
I get it. I get it. Believe me. I'm right there with you. No, he should. We're gonna fight because he should allow you to use that. Like, come on. I have the... Yeah, I mean, I have so much baby Yoda. Like, if I'm gonna buy anything, I'm gonna check if it's in baby Yoda first. I'm that person.
00:52:16
Speaker
Of course. And there's just like so much good stuff. And it never stops. Like I have a collection of Grogoos. I have the giant squishmallow one. When I went and visited Austin earlier this year, I was like, let's stop by Build-A-Bear. Because if they have Grogoo, maybe I'll make them. And then as soon as I saw Grogoo, I was like, all right, my grown ass is building a fucking Grogoo right here. And I named him Grogert, though, to be a little bit of an individual. Because you know how Build-A-Bear can see the birth certificate?
00:52:44
Speaker
Build-A-Bear, sponsor me, please. I love you.
00:52:48
Speaker
Anyway, and make more Star Wars ones. They make a lot of good Star Wars ones. But anyway, I've now completely lost the plot. I'm so sorry. I can vouch for Chelsea that they have tons of Grogu stuff at their mom's house because I've also been to their mom's house to relax. And there was tons of Grogu stuff. And Chelsea has soon, soon to everything. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I have two students who just wrote a poem. I'm trying to go hang out.
00:53:17
Speaker
in your mom's house with you. Please try to relax.
Asian Representation in Star Wars
00:53:22
Speaker
I'm so sorry. I'm fucking moving on. So now that we've already asked the very hard hitting questions about Grogu, I want to dive into something maybe a little less serious.
00:53:47
Speaker
So, so much of Star Wars is inspired by Asian cultures like the costumes, the themes, the combat styles, and just like so much more. As an Asian person, what are your thoughts on AAPI representation in Star Wars?
00:54:01
Speaker
I'm actually really glad that you asked this and you know that it's like so inspired by Asian culture. I think that Star Wars is getting better. I think that there's still like a lot of room and improvement. I mean, I think that Asian culture or having more Asian people within Star Wars is like one of the many things that they could keep working on, you know. But you know, we have like Sabine who's like
00:54:25
Speaker
leading a new show who's an Asian person. Yeah, speaking of Sabine's makeup, it is so terrible. It's like they're trying to do Western makeup on her and she has Asian features. And so I think maybe hiring, to me that very, very clearly shows that it's not an Asian person doing her makeup or someone who knows how to work with Asian features.
00:54:49
Speaker
So maybe they need to be hiring more Asian people behind the scenes to kind of help with that. Like Star Wars, you can hire me to do Sabine's makeup, Asian person here. And then we have like the acolyte that has multiple Asian people in it. So I think it's getting better. And I think it's like so weird when we had, what was it?
00:55:11
Speaker
The anthology series I love the ant which one is that one? Oh? Visions excuse me Yeah visions and how many people were like so not for it being anime it was just so weird to me because I'm like you guys know that Star Wars is based off like Asian culture like this makes so much sense to see like samurai's with lightsabers because that's
00:55:35
Speaker
literally stolen from that culture. So I think there's like a lot of work to be done with like Star Wars itself and the community with like acknowledging the fact that we are referencing like Asian stories and a lot of Asian things. Like look at Padme from A Phantom Menace, taken from like I think it's Hmong culture. Like where's that? Where's that representation? Yeah.
00:56:02
Speaker
100% they seem to always take from cultures, but I think one thing you've talked about is someone like Mon Mothma. Her and her family's clothing were very inspired by Asian culture.
00:56:17
Speaker
There's no, you don't see Asian people in the scenes with them. You don't see, apparently there was no one behind the scenes either. And so it's one thing to like bring that stuff in and respect it and have the people actually from those cultures bring that in. But when it's not, it just kind of feels like they're trying to like get brownie points, if that makes sense. Like they're, it's just kind of empty representation. Yeah.
00:56:45
Speaker
It happens all the time. Like you see like, like authors in the books, like they try to represent a community that they're not necessarily a part of. And then it's just offensive. Like in the end, it's just like, you know, and so great. Yeah, I think that's really important to talk about. And I really like what you brought up about Sabine, like, there should be someone who knows how to do her makeup, you know, for an Asian woman.
00:57:11
Speaker
Right. And I know when we talked about it before separately, I always knew something was not right with her makeup, but I couldn't put my finger on it. And when you pointed out the fact that it was because the person doing her makeup either doesn't know how to do makeup on people with Western features or whether it is just they don't know in general, like I was like, oh, I see it now. It makes so much sense. And like you said, Lucasfilm, Star Wars, higher crystal because I do it.
00:57:39
Speaker
Right it's just like a little weird to me because Lucas films Disney is such a huge Corporation like they have the money they have the resources like why are we not? Hiring people behind the scenes that can do it correctly or do it in a way that's respectful And then also why are we not like? Casting them in the shows like you said that scene all the stuff with Andor like Mon Motha's era or her
00:58:06
Speaker
House is very tired. Yeah, but like we're in the Asian people like you have the ability to cast Asian people like mom Martha's husband could have been Asian could have been an Asian man No, nothing has like shown us that he's like a white man. So I don't know I just I just think there's a lot of missed opportunities and I am I am personally confused about it. I
00:58:27
Speaker
Mm hmm. It's crazy to be it's crazy because then we think back to like the sequel trilogy and with Kelly Marie Tran, Rose Tico, all the racist and like horrible things that people had to say about her, literally for no like they weren't critiquing her acting. They were just critiquing that she was a Asian person in Star Wars. They just came down to racism, it felt like, and misogyny as well. Yeah, I loved her. She did not deserve any of that.
00:58:57
Speaker
I agree. Bring her back. Bring her back. And what frustrates me most about that is then the people who made the movies listened to them and wrote her the fuck off. And that is the thing that's extremely frustrating when
00:59:13
Speaker
you barely have the representation in and of itself, and then they face backlash. That is just racist, misogynistic backlash, not anything genuine, not a critique of her character or what she represents. Because she's a very important character. And I don't know the whole quote right now. I'm sure Austin could say it, but she says that one quote that's really important and it's really slipping my mind right now. About not fighting what you hate.
00:59:40
Speaker
It's not about saving what you love. Right. And that's quintessential Star Wars, right? And so the fact that, again, they listened to the hateful people, or maybe they didn't directly listen, but it certainly influenced, I think, the smaller roles she played. So again, not only is it, I sidetracked myself with my own point.
Backlash Against Rose Tico
01:00:01
Speaker
So not only is it frustrating that there's not really enough representation as there is, but then
01:00:09
Speaker
it gets taken away because of the very shitty people who, like, that representation is not there for them. Like, because they're going to hate anything that doesn't reflect them and what they want. And so that's just, you know, that's very like the pisses me off, to be honest. And, you know, we see it happen with other communities in Star Wars constantly, like with Riva, like all the backlash, like her character got, which is like extremely frustrating. And yeah.
01:00:39
Speaker
Yeah, for the star of this show to make a statement to help people to not be racist. Like, right. That's nuts. Hopefully things will be better when that High Republic show comes out. Mm hmm. I may just have to log off for that one. I'm like, right. For my own piece, because I was like, I'm not about to argue with a fucking transphobe. I'm not. Or I'll just respond pee, pee, poo, poo to everything they say.
01:01:08
Speaker
You cannot escape that. Anyway, sorry. It's going to be a very queer series as well, because you can't have Vanessa Rowe in the series and not have it be queer. No. But there's going to be lots of elements in that show that I feel like people are really going to target. So it's going to be important. One, Disney and Disney, all the studios, AMPTP, pay your bucket actors and writers, because we're going to be defending the luck out of that show on our podcast.
01:01:37
Speaker
So do that, please, before that comes out. Yeah, absolutely, as we should. Yeah, yeah, 100 percent. We kind of talked about this and brushed on it a bit, Crystal, but your content is both Star Wars and makeup oriented, which is unique in terms of Star Wars creators.
Intersection of Makeup and Star Wars
01:01:57
Speaker
So how does your love for both go hand in hand? You know, like, does Star Wars inspire your makeup and does makeup inspire your love of Star Wars at all?
01:02:07
Speaker
I would say yes to both of those. Sometimes I'll see really cool characters and I'm like, oh my gosh, I need to do that. Specifically, the dark side force users, they just look so cool. They have such cool character designs and it would be really cool to interpret that on myself.
01:02:25
Speaker
Just to play around with that, it makes me want to try something different with my makeup. Something with content creating for me now is because I am on camera more, I do want to do something different. I don't want to do the same smoky eye that I love on myself. I want to try colors that I'm not used to or different shapes or
01:02:49
Speaker
You know, I just did a C3PO video where my look was inspired by C3PO using a C3PO palette. You know, like I really want to like step outside my comfort zone because I can be very like, oh, cat eye and eyebrows type of girl, you know, which I love, but like, I don't know. I need to, it gives me the ability to try something new and different. And I really, really like that.
01:03:14
Speaker
Yeah, I love that. Because obviously your content with Star Wars and makeup go hand in hand. So I was wondering if that really influenced your love of either. And also you have a bunch of like character palettes, right? Like you have CPBO, I saw your recent video or Grogu palettes. What I'm gonna say you got the Grogu Colourpop. Colourpop, they?
01:03:37
Speaker
I don't know what they're on. They have like three new palettes out every week. I had a mini beauty guru era in the beginning of like, or March, 2020, where I was collecting everything from Collar Pop. I had so many, I had so much makeup for no reason, but yeah. The Star Wars stuff is cute. I still have the, I have the Grogu palette. Yeah, it's so cute. I have the Mandalorian one too, or the Din Djarin one. I'm actually, that's what I...
01:04:05
Speaker
love it on for y'all and uh i got like the main star wars one and the darth vader one but sometimes i feel like it's too safe like they didn't even put a black eyeshadow in the darth vader palette yeah i do remember seeing because the kind of general star wars when you're talking about right is like it's like the dark blue kind of like rectangular it has like what like probably three rows of eight or something i remember
01:04:32
Speaker
Then teasing that and I was like, Ooh, I haven't bought makeup in a while, but maybe this will slay. And then I remember seeing the color story and I was like, I'm kind of unimpressed, but okay. Right. Right. I can agree. I have a couple palettes and nothing is as bad as when you get a bunch of dark grays, you know, some lighter grays, a sparkly gray, but I'm like, where's the black bestie? Like, everybody needs a good black.
01:04:58
Speaker
We're doing a Darth Vader palette. There should be a black. There should be a glitter black. There should be a metallic black. The whole thing should be different shades of black. You know where those can go? In the Wayseeker's X Crystal Kyber collab palette coming soon. And we all have the shades of blue and black and all types of...
01:05:21
Speaker
and then and then we'll film a tutorial it'll be great oh my god i would love to do that where crystal like takes us through a tutorial and we all do it together and see how it looks i think that'd be so fun maybe we could put that on your channel yeah oh my gosh let's do it that would be so much fun i would love that i consider doing my makeup on a what
01:05:42
Speaker
I was just gonna say we could all buy the same palette and it would be easy to follow. Oh my god. Let's do it. I'm so down. That would be so much fun. Yes. I was gonna say I actually considered doing my makeup while we were talking. Oh. That would have been so fun. Point essential. Point essential to Crystal Piper. It might be too distracting. I was like, I need to focus. I need to just be ready.
01:06:07
Speaker
oh my god period oh but aside from makeup you also have very sliced star wars nails oftentimes so which has been your favorite set so far we've seen like padme and asoka right and then how do you work with your nail artist to come up with these designs because they're not just like straight up the character they're like very subtle like with maybe a symbol but like the color like it's just like
01:06:31
Speaker
if you know you know kind of thing but to like anyone else you'd be like oh those are nice nails like so what's that process like?
01:06:39
Speaker
Right. Oh my gosh. Thank you for noticing, first of all. My favorite stuff that I have ever worn in terms of Star Wars nails is my baby Yoda nails, of course, because it has to be. But for coming up with the designs, when I was looking at Star Wars nail designs on Pinterest, it's all hyper-realistic portraits of each character. And yeah, that's not my thing.
01:07:09
Speaker
Thank you. That's my exact reaction. Let's try to be nicer about it. No, speak your truth. Leave it. Leave it to me. But I wanted the nails to feel like a nail set that I would wear. I'd want it to feel like a cool, trendy nail, but Star Wars. And it's like, how do we incorporate that? How do we make that happen? And I think it's, like you said, incorporating the color palette.
01:07:37
Speaker
Maybe something like a nod to the original character. Like someone in my Padme Nail video was like, oh, these are way more Sabine. And I'm like, dang, they are. But Scotty, you actually said that they're like Padme from where? Oh, God. I see the outfit in my head. I see. I want to say it's Thrawn Alliances. Was she in that?
01:08:04
Speaker
Yeah, you're right. And because she wears the same outfit in some seasons of the Clone Wars or in some episodes that like purplish, right? It's like a burgundy and like a golden kind of tan. Or else she wears it. Force is a destiny.
01:08:21
Speaker
And sometimes he has the best with it, right? It's like a little mess. Yeah, the best. Go me. I fucking, I'm glad I remembered. I just pulled it up on Star Wars.com and I'm like, hell yeah, that's Thrawn Alliances. No, I haven't read it, but I still know.
01:08:35
Speaker
number one timothy zan fan right here timothy zan stan we have to for mj we have to say it right timothy's on we know
01:08:51
Speaker
But yeah, I think trying to incorporate Star Wars in a way that feels authentic to me has been really fun. How do I interpret this character as nails or a makeup look or into even style and fashion? It's challenging, but I think I really enjoy that kind of work, the interpretation or the essence of things and turning it into something else. I really, really like that.
01:09:19
Speaker
And I love that because it's so cool to see how different people express themselves. So for you, it's like the nails and the makeup. And for me, I always have Star Wars earrings on. That's what I was known for. On the first year of Zoom University for my grad school, I was always wearing a different set of Lego Star Wars earrings or lightsabers and people would be like, oh, who's that? And that was my way to
01:09:40
Speaker
because I am not creatively talented in terms of makeup. I also, I'm a terrible nail biter, so I, my stuff's just naked all the time. But I just, I love seeing that stuff. And it's nice because, you know, like you said, you kind of see the more typical, like,
01:09:56
Speaker
over the top portrait stuff, which is a sleigh for the people who love it. I feel like if I was going to a con for a weekend, yeah, maybe I'd go all out. But for like day to day life, you know, it's it's really fun and important to express yourself and your interests. And I love that, like, you found a way to do that even with like nail art. And I'm just curious, do you have any characters in mind that you want to do next?
01:10:19
Speaker
Yes, I want to do, the next one I want to do is going to be Din. I want to do like something chrome, like dripping chrome. I've gotten some suggestions. I think Scotty suggested to do a massage. Or like a night sister nail, yeah. Yeah, so I think that would be a good one for Halloween too. There's so many good ones. A Rex one would be good. Ooh, you can have little jag eyes like on your nail, that would be cute. Yeah, like something like this or...
01:10:47
Speaker
I don't know, something. But I'm also trying to like, it's so easy to get caught up in like the numbers. I'm sure y'all can relate where it's like, oh, if I do this, is this gonna like do numbers or, you know, but I have to remind myself I'm doing this because I like it. And if other people like it, that's cool. But like the Padme ones, I was like, I don't think anyone's gonna like these new. And they didn't pop off like my other ones did. But you know what, like,
01:11:16
Speaker
they're for me and I have to like remind myself that you know. I think if I'm not mistaken is it your Ahsoka nails that popped off and even starwars.com gave you a little shout out about them?
01:11:28
Speaker
Yeah, starwars.com gave me a little shout out on the Padme ones, which I was like, oh, it's real. Um, but the sofa ones like really popped off, like they're on like all over Pinterest and people always send me their versions of it too. And I think that's really cool. Like I've made like a lot of connections over people that want to talk about nails. So that's really cool. I think it's like another way to like kind of really target that audience that I want to target. So.
01:12:00
Speaker
Well, speaking of your audience and just people we surround ourselves with.
Supporting Queer Creators
01:12:05
Speaker
I mentioned this before you and I connected through basically pink milk in a very queer corner of the Star Wars community. And, you know, we're queer so like it's just, it's a normal thing for us but for someone like an ally, what is it like navigating through like the queer corner of the Star Wars community.
01:12:23
Speaker
You know, I thought about this question a lot because I was like, what does that mean for me? I was like a street person existing in like a queer space. And I think for me, it's just like really understanding when it's time for me to like take a seat back or like let queer people have the moment to say like what they need to say or what needs to be said. Besides, like, of course, like standing up for when things need to be stood up for.
01:12:53
Speaker
I think it's also just letting queer people have the space because if I'm not going to make space, it's just going to get taken. I think that is what it feels like to be an ally, to lift up other creators, queer creators, I should say.
01:13:12
Speaker
Yeah, but like I also um i've grown up in a queer household So it's it feels very normal to me Like this is a very normal space that I exist in like all my friends most of my friends are very queer. So um That's why I was like, huh, it's not very different for me But I think that's when I realized yo, it's just about letting other people have their moment and like uplifting them so
01:13:38
Speaker
I'm so glad you touched on being surrounded by queer people, because I always have the joke, I'm like, the queers and queer adjacent. Right, seriously, I love that. I think that's so funny, actually.
01:13:52
Speaker
Yeah. And it's just the queer spaces, it's always, in my experience, it's always the nicer part of the fandoms, the places I want to be, the places I want to hang out. So, you know, because I feel like even when, because one thing I feel like is a huge misconception is like,
01:14:14
Speaker
non-toxic spaces, you have to love everything. You got to be a Disney shell, as they say. And one thing I thought was really interesting about you, Crystal, is that because I was going through your Twitter and YouTube videos and stuff for this video or this podcast. And we're going to get into those hot seat questions later. But one sweet bet, Scotty and I were reading this this morning and we were laughing. Oh, no.
01:14:40
Speaker
It said something along the lines of like, I almost turned off my TV and hashtag the Mandalorian.
Critiquing vs. Toxicity in Star Wars
01:14:49
Speaker
And so I wanted to ask you, like, what is it like? You know, how do you separate being like a toxic person and just simply disliking and critiquing the thing you love? You know, we all love Star Wars.
01:15:08
Speaker
So how do you separate that in your mind? I feel like toxic positivity can be just as bad as people harping on it. But I try to be very careful with expressing my unhappiness with Star Wars. And I try to frame it more as my opinion and my feelings about it. I'm not going to say something about, oh, well,
01:15:37
Speaker
the fandom likes this and I don't like them. So everyone who likes this doesn't know what they're talking about. Like who am I to say that? Right. You know, all I can say is I don't like it. And if someone tells me what can someone say to that?
01:15:52
Speaker
Like I didn't like it. You can't say anything to that. I didn't say that you couldn't like it. So I really try to just like focus on like myself, but it does get hard because, you know, if I don't like something and people are like, oh, people who don't like it, they don't know what they're talking about. I hate that. And I'm like, and they try to lock you in with like the other people. And yeah, because I think all of us here, we all have the things in Star Wars, the entire projects that we just do not like, do not fuck with.
01:16:21
Speaker
That doesn't make us toxic. Like, we still love Star Wars. And it's not like we're hating on it to make money and have this narrative of like, well, actually, there's this insider coming in at Lucasfilm and holding everybody accountable. Kathleen Kennedy fired while Larson was coming in. Right. Lee Larson got everybody to come in at Lucasfilm, like, Lucasfilm Civil War. Oh, my God. People need to. I know.
01:16:51
Speaker
That's the kind of stuff that like trips me out. I'm like, we don't have to agree. Yeah. The one thing, the one thing I always try to remind myself is that my least favorite part of Star Wars, maybe somebody else's favorite part. And that's kind of how I try to think about it when I'm critiquing something. Because if I don't like something, like, I'm not gonna
01:17:12
Speaker
y'all know me I'm not gonna hide my opinion but I'm also gonna understand that like somebody else may love that and that's cool too there's so much there's so much in this galaxy that we can all like like we have our little communities within the Star Wars kind of fandom just like in the galaxy there's these little pockets that we all kind of gravitate towards
01:17:32
Speaker
And I think even with the four of us, layer things that we don't agree on, but that doesn't make me not like you or not respect you or your opinions. We could go in about why we don't like something versus why someone else likes something and I'm going to listen because that's your opinion and I respect that.
01:17:53
Speaker
In fact, it might even not sway me, but I'll have an understanding of it. That different outlook definitely comes in handy. I'm not going to lie. Hearing people talk about what they loved about the sequel trilogy has made me go back and try to find things I also love about it. Like I said, I was watching those toxic people back when the sequel trilogy was coming out, those toxic creators. I already had this negative connotation. Then finally listening to people talk about what they liked, I'm like,
01:18:23
Speaker
Like there are good moments in this that I actually really enjoy. And just because I don't love the whole thing doesn't mean it's horrible. Right. Right. Yeah.
01:18:33
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's something that I always got to keep in mind because I honestly, I don't know if they all feel the same. There's not really a Star Wars project out there where I can't say like one good thing about it. You know what I mean? Like even the worst absolute bottom of my list. I'm like, I still like to do this element. I liked this performance, you know? Right. Like a bubble that wasn't that bad. The holiday special. Okay. The holiday special.
01:19:02
Speaker
I needed to relax more before I watched that one and maybe I would have enjoyed it because I sat down and watched that and I was like, this is scarier than any horror movie I've watched and I've watched a lot. That genuinely may be the only thing
01:19:19
Speaker
where off the top of my head, I can't identify an element that I like. That's
Chewbacca's Family and Lego Humor
01:19:26
Speaker
okay. You know what? Lucas hates it too. I'll just say that what Chewbacca's child, Great Glove Shiddo, love his little round face. There's my positive thing about that. It's his name, Lumpy? Yeah. He's got a great name. Okay, two things. Sorry. I just love, I love that kind of shit anyway.
01:19:48
Speaker
I feel like the holiday special for me is a huge sign that like, no matter how bad something is in Star Wars, if it shows back up, I'm gonna be like pointing out my screen and shit because I feel like even though I fucking hate the holiday special, if Chewbacca's family showed up in some shit, I'm gonna be like, oh my fucking god, Lumbee is back!
01:20:08
Speaker
Or like, or like in the, in the Lego special when the Lego holiday special. And it was like, they're celebrating life day. Like just little, it's like a little Easter egg, but like, if you know, you know, if you don't like, it's something like you said that you pointed the screen, Leonardo DiCaprio meme of like a hashtag for like, bring Ezra home. We need that for lumpy. Let's get that started on Twitter. Everybody, everybody, after watching the episode, go tweet out hashtag, bring lumpy home.
01:20:38
Speaker
um we're starting this agenda here and now um maybe maybe we should say let Chewbacca go home to be with his family yeah i guess yeah because they miss him i'm sure he's just off he don't give a fuck he's just
01:20:58
Speaker
Maybe, I mean, maybe he got a divorce. Who knows? He went for a pack of cigarettes 20 years ago. Oh,
Rapid Fire Star Wars Questions
01:21:07
Speaker
no. Well, I want to get into these really hard hitting questions, Crystal, and we're going to we're going to do this quickly.
01:21:19
Speaker
We're going to, it's going to be kind of like a rapid fire thing because, you know, I want to really put you on the spot here. So rapid fire questions, hot like Mustafar. For some, bringing it back. So first of all, this one's kind of tame. Sorry for the tame one. Crystal, everyone knows that you love shipping and not the flying kind. You love the romantic relationships. And so what is your most chaotic, toxic, you're going to get canceled ship.
01:21:53
Speaker
I don't think any of my ships are that toxic, I should say. In terms of how semi or firework-y some ships are, I think Jin and Cassian are my favorite. I feel like they would just be really explosive, but they're not toxic.
01:22:11
Speaker
but
Ezra's Dark Side Debate
01:22:12
Speaker
I love them. The chemistry. Okay. Jin and Cassie and Jin and Cassie and I like that one. On January 14th, 2021, you tweeted, I only tweet about Star Wars and yearning. What are you currently yearning right now?
01:22:28
Speaker
Hmm. What am I yearning? I don't know. It's hard because I'm in like a really good relationship. So it's hard to yearn when you're getting your needs met. But this was like my pin tweet for like ever. Cause it's just like, man, that's all I want to talk about. Star Wars and yearning, but now I'm in love. So it's hard to yearn. Right. Is there like any Star Wars characters yearning for?
01:22:58
Speaker
Jin and Cassian always. Like the AO3 tag that I'm always on. Love that. It's Jin and Cassian. So good. Crystal, you're one of my besties. One of my favorite people. But one of your biggest flaws in my opinion is that you want dark side Ezra. Period. What is that about?
01:23:26
Speaker
said what I said and I'll say it again. I just think it would be so interesting as Scotty can elaborate Ezra flirts with the dark side. And I just think it would be so cool. We haven't had that story of like a Jedi going to the dark side like that. I mean, we have but we haven't seen it. You know, and I think it'd be a really cool redemption for him. Like we already love him. Like I think it would just add like a little bit more like
01:23:52
Speaker
longie. Maybe I yearn for that. I feel
Star Wars Character Ships
01:23:57
Speaker
like I have to say something now. Yes, don't get us wrong. We want Ezra to dabble more in the dark side, but we do want him to be redeemed and come back to the light in the night when arc. My only thing is, I just feel like they already had the chance so many times in rebels that if they're going to do it at this point, that's just like character assassination, because I feel like he went through like the arcs to like avoid that. You know what I mean? I mean, he could have taken it a step further. But you know,
01:24:22
Speaker
Well, like I wouldn't because when Rebels was coming out, I wasn't against the idea of him turning to the dark side. I mean, this picture right here, like I'm beginning this season. So when I was like, Oh, shit, like I really thought he's going to turn to the dark side for a second there with like mall and everything. Like I was like, Oh.
01:24:39
Speaker
They're gonna, this is like Clone Wars, they're gonna, they're gonna get dark with the audience and grow up with it, which they still did, but, you know, as they're turning to the dark side, so. Crystal, like I said, I met you from the Jedi survivor streams. I wanna ask you, do you ship Callan Dagon more or Callan Bode more?
01:25:01
Speaker
What's Dagen? Dagen. That's good choice. Look at them. Oh my look at that. Like we need to blur that.
01:25:13
Speaker
right but there's three of them in there so oh what's going on holly going on in this photo the more i look at it the more i'm like wait yeah and the lightsaber duels in Jedi survivor kind of feel like sex scenes so um there's some some pent-up frustration
01:25:40
Speaker
This next was actually not for you crystal Scotty What is your opinion on this character from Jedi survivor? She's got a beautiful singing voice
01:26:05
Speaker
Nice. Die. Wonder where you
Imagining Zeb and Kalis
01:26:09
Speaker
are. Okay. I've said this before and I'll say it again. She's got trauma and she needs to be with her family. So why don't we drop her off at Auntie Akuna's house and then get back onto the story. Like, we don't need her.
01:26:38
Speaker
Well, since this podcast is about Crystal, what is your opinion, Crystal, about Kata or whether she should stay with Kal and Maren or go to her little auntie's house? She should go to her auntie's house. Who's her auntie, Crystal?
01:27:01
Speaker
That's not for us to know. Aunty Akuna. Oh, I don't know. Probably got killed by another Inquisitor here. Goodbye. Next. Back to Kisto. What is your opinion on Zeb and Kalis?
01:27:21
Speaker
Oh, husbands. I just don't understand why Zeb is not in this new show with his husband. Where are they? He's expensive to get. Zeb is living lavish. We just need visual confirmation because I know that the voice actors, they think it too, they ship them, but they're enemies to lovers.
01:27:50
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Kiss. Kiss. Oh my gosh. When I rewatch that episode, I'm like, this is always what they intended. Yeah. Yeah,
Favorite Character Pairings
01:28:02
Speaker
I think so too. Kira and Han or Leia and Han? Han and Leia.
01:28:12
Speaker
I think that yeah, I just love them together. They're like, so they're just so funny and like nitpicky. I love Kira. But like, I don't know. I feel like Kira needs like someone else she can do better. Scruffy looking. Love the one place where Crystal and I disagree.
01:28:33
Speaker
I'm on Crystal's side. I like my ships a little toxic, a little argumentative. And like, yeah, Kira and Han are like, I wouldn't call them a healthy couple necessarily. But that just like that bickering, that like that energy where it's like, I hate you. And then they just like kiss like that energy that Han and I have. That's my show.
01:28:54
Speaker
And like in this scene specifically, he's like, you're gonna miss me. And she's like, no, I'm not. And then she just like follows him around. And he's like, just admit it. And she's like, no, don't leave. I love it.
Zero and Sy Snootles: A Humorous Take
01:29:07
Speaker
Just say it. Just say that you guys love each other. The ship show part of the way. So we're talking about shipping, so. Zero.
01:29:24
Speaker
Zero incised noodles or what? What would their ship name be? Zirudels? What would be? Do you mean what is their ship name? Oh, look at this picture. Okay, zero is a homosexual. Yeah. I feel like they both are. Look at them.
01:29:54
Speaker
they're each other's beards. Actually, size noodles is a fucking drag queen. Let's be honest. Look at that. Look at that. There's your next look crystal. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. I like that. Actually, I love those colors together. And they have each other's colors too. She's green with purple on his purple with green. Cute. I
Reylo and Sequel Opinions
01:30:19
Speaker
shit.
01:30:20
Speaker
They're together for the benefits. Yes. The tax write-off. Reylo? I don't really have an opinion on them. I wish that I did because I know people ship them so hard. They ride for this ship. I also want to ride for this ship, but I've only seen the sequels once.
01:30:44
Speaker
Right. Right. Interesting. Interesting. I guess. Okay. Now you go. No, I'm, I'm, I'm a Reylo from, I wouldn't say day one from boys. Because I, I was young and I was like, Ray is Luke's daughter. So back
Preferred Star Wars Series
01:31:02
Speaker
when you were 12, when the first thing came out and you were 12. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Um,
01:31:12
Speaker
Rebels, Clone Wars, or Resistance? I'm a Clone Wars girly.
01:31:21
Speaker
period, period, period. Rebels all the way, I think, but it's okay to be wrong sometimes. I know you ride for Rebels, both of you, but you know. Yes. Yeah, we've been arguing about it. Chelsea. Don't forget, Chelsea's the sole resistance rider, too. Yes, but Rebels is always my number one, for sure, but so.
01:31:45
Speaker
Chelsea,
Toxic and Unlikely Pairings
01:31:46
Speaker
if you had the option to save Kanan, but instead, Nikku dies, would you take that? I wouldn't, because Kanan made the choice to sacrifice himself, and I respect him too much to take that away from him, and I also love Nikku. Okay. Okay.
01:32:13
Speaker
We have to admit though, this is Canaan's hottest look so Okay, last but not least crystal, what is your opinion on this picture?
01:32:34
Speaker
Natch, Slade, game over. This is A, this is the look, this is everything. She's serving. Who is she? Who is she? Can you describe what this is for audio? So it is Harris and Dula with the correct makeup on.
01:32:55
Speaker
This is Harrison Dula that Scottie edited with Crystal Space Alfred. What's that Lady Gaga mean? Beautiful. Amazing. Fantastic. Throw it up. Spit it back out. Like it goes on for 10 minutes. I love that. Eat it. Yeah. Regurgitated. Does she have a point to like shit it out? Like, yeah.
01:33:22
Speaker
Well, that's going to be fun to add it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I want to know what each of your toxic ships are. I have to genuinely think about that for Star Wars for a sec. So someone else has answered go first. Oh, well, I know my best one. Actually, my number two. Callen Dagen.
01:33:46
Speaker
Okay. Simple as that. Toxic. But I love to see it. I don't know if this would necessarily be toxic, but when I read the first Thrombuk, Eli Vanto and Thrawn are boyfriends. Hell yeah. That's why he's trying to get back. They're definitely boyfriends. He's trying to get back to the galaxy to reunite with the boyfriend, his cowboy boyfriend. Timothy Zahn confirmed.
01:34:14
Speaker
It's biblically accurate. I don't give a fuck. Mine, again, is not toxic in that they're toxic for each other. Well, maybe a little bit, but it's toxic in that they probably won't ever end up together. So it's devastating to care about them so much. But Thane and Sienna from Lost Stars. Have you read Lost Stars, Crystal?
01:34:34
Speaker
Oh my God, full of yearning, full of star-crossed lover. You would genuinely, I think you would love it. So I highly recommend Lost Stars. That's my favorite Star Wars book. So I recommend it to everybody, but I really feel like in my bones, you would love it.
01:34:50
Speaker
I was gonna say,
Farewell to Krystal
01:34:51
Speaker
anytime I talk about how much I love Dark Disciple, everyone including Chelsea is like, okay, next you need to read Lost Stars. And I have it on my bookshelf back here. So I'm gonna read it. There's just a lot of Star Wars books. I got a lot of years to catch up with.
01:35:06
Speaker
But crystal this has been amazing Thank you so much for being our very first guest on this is the way seekers podcast It's been such a pleasure And you know, I think that it was very obvious that you'd be the first person to come on Because you've been so supportive of us ever since we restarted the podcast. So Where can everybody keep up with you outside of here? I
01:35:33
Speaker
You can find me on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok, and YouTube, Crystal Kiber. Some iteration of Crystal Kiber, whether it's like crystal.kiber. I'll probably pop up if you look for Crystal Kiber. But thank you so much for having me. I love all of you so much. And I'm just so thrilled to be here. Thank you. We love you. The feeling is very mutual.
01:35:58
Speaker
Yes, we appreciate you being on. We're going to do a new thing now where if you want to keep up with me, Chelsea and Scotty on social media is going to be in the descriptions, but you can follow our main social medias at voice seekers pod on Twitter and Instagram. May the force be with you always. Bye.