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OPE Season 3 Episode 5 Season Predictions
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Aloha and welcome to another episode of OPE! This week, we give our thoughts on the final 53-man roster and give our season predictions! Also, we add another entry to our Shut the Fuck Up segment!
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Hosts' Vacation Return & Streamyard Price Hike
00:00:32
Speaker
Oh, hi and welcome to a new episode of the Hana Packers edition podcast, the podcast where Iowa, Joe and I are both just back from vacation. And thus we are whipping it together, trying to figure out new software as a stream yard is trying to hike us for a price increase. So we're flying a little bit by the seat of our pants, but when do we not, Joe? I don't know. I never do anything on plan.
00:00:59
Speaker
But as we said, where says this one is going to be a little rough around the edges, but the two of us are rough around the edges. So we fit right in with this one. We're going to preview the 2024 season, give our prediction on record.
Malik Willis Trade: Roster Surprises
00:01:12
Speaker
um But also, we're just going to start off with, excuse me, since we haven't had a show since um the final roster was since the 53-man roster was finalized and then re-finalized the day later. um We'll go over Things that we basically admitted were going to happen when we did our 53-man roster prediction and so many things did come true. Basically, as we said, we knew ours weren't going to be our predictions weren't going to be correct there because Goot and the team was going to do a bunch of some things and such they did, Joe. um Started off, we knew that the quarterback 2 situation was going to be kind of funky and
00:01:51
Speaker
through a curve ball and traded for Malik Willis and on top of that um the big one is Malik Willis as QB2 and Narvison being claimed as the kicker and bye-bye both to Anders Carlsen and Greg Joseph.
00:02:08
Speaker
joe We didn't think the team was going to stand pat on status quo and Groot basically said that and went forward with both. How are you feeling on both fronts of that of that equation?
Coaching Connections: Malik Willis Trade
00:02:23
Speaker
oh Well, I'll talk a little bit more about the Willish trade later on in our so our shut the fuck up segment.
00:02:35
Speaker
Um, cause I've seen a couple of bad takes on it. So I'll talk a little bit more of that. I mean, obviously they weren't happy with the way Pratt and Clifford played throughout the preseason. So you knew a change was going to come. I think it was out of the blue that Willis was the one that they traded for. Obviously the floor has connections with Tennessee. I don't.
00:03:07
Speaker
I don't know how many of the coaches there were there when he was... Right. ...coaching down there. I think the main one was just on Vribul at that point.
00:03:21
Speaker
Well, I don't know, like, the the coordinators and that, because I don't think they've come completely wiped that down there. Yeah. Yeah. um So I...
00:03:37
Speaker
That one, I think the head scratcher is keeping Clifford on the, and this is another one that I'll get into later, which shut the fuck up. um
00:03:50
Speaker
Because I think it it is surprising they kind of went with Clifford more than they wanted Pratt. It was interesting that Pratt ended up on a on the Bucks practice squad.
Unexpected Roster Choices: Wilson & Anderson Over Welch & Johnson
00:04:04
Speaker
I guess they were interested in in the draft from what I've been seeing little yeah bits of. Just the Packers kind of beat them to it.
00:04:12
Speaker
um
00:04:15
Speaker
the And I know we kind of had this disagreement when we were doing our predictions, but the one that really surprises me out more out of anything is the keeping Eric Wilson over Christian Welch.
00:04:34
Speaker
And I know we, and and it's not anything to do with the bias there because he was a former Hawkeye and all that. It just, it seemed like Welch really played his heart out in the preseason and did, and even Goody kind of said it in his press conference that he did everything that they asked him to and more. And it's like, well, if he did everything you asked him to and more than why the hell did he get cut? And you kept Wilson who hardly played.
00:05:01
Speaker
I mean, I suppose, you know, you're basing it off experience. And I know they're saying special teams and that, but watch played special teams too. And, and so I'm kind of confused on that one. Um, the big heartbreaking one, and I know you got it in your note here.
00:05:22
Speaker
And this is another head scratcher. These were the two head scratchers welch or wilson over welch and then zane anderson over anthony johnson jr And you can say what you want about zane anderson Special teams and you know, he really showed out during the preseason. Well, so did the anthony johnson jr Anthony johnson jr really showed out during the preseason and look like mission Yeah, and at the position you want you need help that too. So yeah, I think Yeah, we like you said we had our discussion on the Welch Wilson ah debate, you know, we we kind of Went went on both sides. We straddled that line from both sides. But to me
00:06:08
Speaker
like Like I know where you were you were coming on the side that Welch should have been kept because he has more upside on defense and is comparable on special teams. I was saying that they picked Wilson's overall experience in the league. The part of that equation that doesn't make sense is OK, like I see that you you picked experience there, but I don't understand picking the special teams only player at safety where you just I know you've put a lot of draft capital into it this offseason, but you've got just, you know, there are still question marks. I know that Bullard and Williams have played well in training camp and, you know, I've had their highlight moments in the preseason games.
00:06:47
Speaker
But they've also had their moments where they've made, you know, had questionable decision
Roster Strategy: Experience vs. Potential
00:06:51
Speaker
making. is they've They've been rookies. And then Oladapo hasn't played, you know, for all intents and purposes, Kitan Oladapo hasn't played in the preseason. And again, you're keeping a guy in Zane Anderson, who on the active roster, who you basically don't want to play the position he's listed at. And he is not listed as special teams ace or anything. He is listed as a safety. And it's a guy that you basically don't want to see play at the position he's listed at. I do think he's better than the guy he replaced in that regard, one Dallin Levitt, but you know that's a very low hurdle to clear. and And then to go a step even further, I thought the point where it was a little weird is ah they kept 10 offensive linemen and 11 defensive linemen and
00:07:40
Speaker
I don't know, I just think that Welch and Johnson Jr. were two guys who were much closer to helping at their position than whoever the 10th old lineman is between like Khadim Telford and Travis Glover and that 10th and 11th D lineman, which I think was the 5th and 6th D end in Mosby and um
Packers' Season Predictions: Wins & Losses
00:08:05
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Cox Jr. So it's like,
00:08:08
Speaker
I get that those guys have upside. The pass rusher is definitely more than the old linemen, but I just think that at two positions where you have big question marks in your linebackers and your safeties, I just didn't care for picking guys who I don't even think have necessarily that good potential but they're quote unquote more premium positions but I think whoever those last two guys at each of those positions that were kept um are way longer shots to amount to anything in the NFL whereas Welch was a guy who you know only played like two-thirds of the season but was one of your special teams leaders and Johnson Jr. was a guy who
00:08:50
Speaker
by all accounts improved by leaps and bounds over where he started last preseason to where he was this preseason and I just think you know Goody has kind of you know he has he has been something of a risk taker and a gambler but I I think he's hedging his bets in the wrong places. And who am I to complain over you know what likely came down to roster spots 50 to 53 kind of thing? But I just think that the way that he used those roster spot currency bits
00:09:25
Speaker
he kind of mismanaged them at the end and, you know, kind of used it on guys that I don't think are ever going to see the field for the Packers. Whereas Johnson Jr. and Welch were playing important and real snaps in playoff games last season.
Roster Cuts and Waivers: Preseason Performances
00:09:40
Speaker
Well, the only thing that I can see about it, I can see it being closer between Wilson and Welch, because right now, Wilson in the unofficial depth chart was listed as a starter. Yeah.
00:09:54
Speaker
So I mean, it it's that one I can see. Yeah. But I think it would be easier to sneak Zane Anderson onto the practice squad than it was going to be Anthony Johnson Jr. And with the new rules where you can activate, you know, ah bring up guys from the practice squad so many times. If you really don't trust at that point, you know, after what is it like three weeks that they can do that in a row?
00:10:25
Speaker
yeah I mean three weeks period. and yeah So if after the three weeks you're still not trusting Anthony Johnson Jr. as whatever you want, then you can cut ties with him, sign Zane Anderson to the active roster and go from there.
00:10:43
Speaker
And then it would be easier to you can't ah slip Johnson Jr. through waivers at that point too, because it's less likely that teams are looking to fill roster spots in week six than they are at the end of everyone's roster cut downs. Yeah. So, and it was pretty, cause what was it? Three players from the Packers were actually picked up off of waivers. It was Anthony Johnson Jr.
00:11:11
Speaker
Oh, I'm blanking on the other two. Newman. Oh, Royce Newman and... um Oh, it was DuBose. It was DuBose. Oh yeah, DuBose. Okay, two of the three were really showing out during the preseason. Yeah. And and yeah it's kind of obvious which two of the three were really showing out during the preseason. And it was the Bucks that picked up Newman, wasn't it? Or was it Carolina? I think it was the Bucks.
00:11:45
Speaker
So they must really hate Baker me Mayfield or something. Uh, cause I know it was Miami picked up to Bose and the Giants picked up Anthony Johnson
Kicker Debate: Narveson vs. Anders
00:11:58
Speaker
Jr. Yeah. Yep. Box claim, which I mean, okay. So, I mean, I understand the DeBose one. You're taking your chances. He still has to grow. You know, you were hoping that.
00:12:13
Speaker
the little bit of film that's on him. I get it. Whatever. We had that discussion already. He's got a lot of bodies to leapfrog to make an impact. So yeah, i'm right I understand the DuBose one. It was simply a numbers game. He's wide receiver seven. And you know, even if it's by hairs, he's wide receiver seven. So not much, you know, not there's not much spilt next milk to cry over there.
00:12:39
Speaker
the like you said the johnson jr one and the welch ones are the ones where and like i said it's not just as The Johnson Jr. won more on a, like, that guy got picked over me as the last safety on the spot. Whereas, like you said, at Linebacker, it's a little more, you know, there's different ways to slice it and justify it. But when you look at the overall roster construction and you kind of say, like, they kept that 10th lineman who probably you never want to see play in a game, or a 11th D lineman who's, like, never gonna be activated. So, yeah, it's those kind of ones where I kind of, like... Well, not even just like the...
00:13:20
Speaker
Not even just the extra alignment and the extra defensive lineman. I mean, just think of all the safeties that they kept. You know, obviously Xavier McKinney was going to be kept. Javon Bullard was going to be kept. Evan Williams was going to be kept, but then you come down to Oledapo and and ah Anderson.
00:13:43
Speaker
And Oledapo, you have no clue because he only played just that short amount of time in, in the last preseason game because he was out for most of it with injury. So, ah and there's, don't get me wrong. I get the loyalty of keep what he was a fifth round pick. Great. You know, that's great to have loyalty to your picks.
00:14:08
Speaker
But it might have been easier to get him to the practice squad than it would have been Anthony Johnson Jr. So. And I do want to apologize to Catan Oladapo. I called him Kitten when I saw him up in Green Bay and he quickly ah he cle ah corrected me. i I had a Midwest moment where we don't yeah do the... I'm just a white dude from the Midwest. Please forgive me. That was that that was not me speaking ill of you. yeah i'm I'm pronouncing it as I read it. I'm having a Ron Burgundy moment.
00:14:48
Speaker
oh oh But at least I got the right person and it wasn't the completely wrong person on that so oh But yeah, I mean we can keep beating this dead horse, but yeah, just I I mean of course Goody gets paid a hell of a lot more money than we do ah to do what he does and and and stuff like that, but it's still, I i think the Anthony Johnson Jr. one is going to bite him and kind of the butt. And I mean, it's not going to be anything major. I'm i'm not saying that
00:15:35
Speaker
Uh, he's going to go on and be the second coming of like Ed Reed or anything. But I think when push comes to shove, you're going to have some injuries in the safety department. There there's no doubt about it. Cause it just, that's how things happen.
00:15:54
Speaker
and it's gonna get to the point where you're gonna have to play Zane Anderson and it's gonna be the Ladarius Gunther all over again. Yeah. and the way i The way that I alluded to it on Twitter is I said,
00:16:06
Speaker
um Anthony Johnson Jr., he might not be the solution to the answer, the solution to the safety question, but he was a decent answer and with upside to be somewhere between a good answer to a full-on solution. And there's substantial value in it when you're relying on, yes, Xavier McKinney's really good, but he is but one man and you need two safeties.
00:16:30
Speaker
you He had he went out with egg on his face through the preseason like I know he had a rough play here and there in each of the three games But overall, I thought he was like 85 90 percent smart no calling good Yeah, I know. I thought 85 to 90 percent have of the time a lot of good lottery tickets in your three draft picks but why not have another decent one that you've had in your The cyclone had a solid day at the office and you know, it was just a bunch of you know Like polish up technique kind of stuff not like oh my god, like that's a massive hole in his game That's never gonna get resolved kind of stuff. So
00:17:15
Speaker
like you said well you go back to the fact that you go back to the fact that he's only played safety for like two years yeah yeah so yeah we could beat this dead the horse i guess the only other thing to really talk about is the ah how did you pronounce his last name narveson i think it's narveson i i don't know i i was Even though I was at Lambo, even though I was was quite at Lambo.
00:17:47
Speaker
Well, it wasn't like I went around to the players and, how do you pronounce your name? And I really didn't have access at the moment to, I mean, I was seeing it go through Twitter, but it wasn't like I was listening to people say his name. So that one really,
00:18:10
Speaker
In a way, you got to feel sorry for Greg Joseph. Because for like a whole hour, he had won the kicking competition between him and Anders.
00:18:24
Speaker
And then the next thing you know, he's getting his ass cut because like they claim somebody else. Now, this is going to be controversial with him no matter what happens. I know he had a successful preseason.
00:18:39
Speaker
But the one thing that that's pissing me off, something fierce when it comes to Anders and Narveson and Greg Joseph and all that. When you bring up stuff with, obviously last week I called out Pete Bukowski on his, his shit ass take about comparing Anders and Mason Crosby.
00:19:02
Speaker
This week, I got a little bit of egg on my face because it didn't end up neither one of them, you know, but they went in a completely different direction. But, uh,
00:19:14
Speaker
I, whenever he would bring up something with Anders, it was always, well, he was a shitty kicker in college. He had a terrible completion rate in college. Go look at Narvison sometime.
00:19:30
Speaker
I think it was like 76.7 percent.
00:19:37
Speaker
That's not a great kicking percentage. And if you're going to try to pull that shit on Anders, but you're not going to say the same thing about Narveson or I love you armor, but I really this was I should put this at the fuck up, but I'm really not. Uh,
00:19:59
Speaker
You are one of the ones that I was seeing pound their chest more than anything. Well, you I don't care what he did in college as long as he's showing in the pros. OK, so what about Anders? He did shit in college, but he had a better kicking percentage in the pros. Now, I know this is a mute point because they've already moved on.
New Kickoff Rules Impact
00:20:23
Speaker
i They're pretty adamant that they're not going to bring Anders back unless something major happens. I don't know. Did he end up anywhere? I saw somebody have like a Photoshop of. OK.
00:20:37
Speaker
him But it. It's the hypocrisy of it all. Because you go from saying, well, he was a shit college kicker. Would we expect in the pros to we get another guy that was a shit college kicker, but because he did better in the preseason, he's the answer to everything. You know, that that's, that's the epitome of hypocrisy. Were you looking it up? Wasn't it like 77% or 76.7%
00:21:22
Speaker
Wow.
00:21:44
Speaker
So even then he was never over 80%.
00:22:12
Speaker
Well.
00:22:36
Speaker
And I get all that and I'm not trying to be right and I'm not trying to be biased on any of it either.
00:23:14
Speaker
Should we do an over under on how long it takes people to get pissed off with him too?
00:23:50
Speaker
And see, we're going to have problems with the new kickoff thing anyway. I don't like i like the concept that they have of it. I like the kick zone. I like all that. But now to bring it up to the 30 yard line, I think that's ridiculous.
Packers' Game Predictions
00:24:04
Speaker
um
00:24:39
Speaker
Well, and didn't somebody come out and didn't want to like, uh, didn't like, was it a news reporter or was it one of the GMs or something that came out and said that if they still weren't having what they liked with this kickoff, they were going to move it to the 35 next.
00:25:04
Speaker
And see, you might as well just. Not even have kickoffs and just say everybody starts at the 35. I would. I wouldn't even bother. I wouldn't even bother returning the ball. If you're getting the ball at thirty the 35, that's damn good field position.
00:25:25
Speaker
OK, rant over. What are we talking about tonight?
00:26:16
Speaker
I don't know, man, you kind of sprung this on me earlier and I've been trying to fight through this whole thing, trying to decide a win-loss record for him. Week one and week two, I've kind of flip-flopped in my mind a hundred different times already. um I did finally settle on the Packers taking a loss against Philly, but I think it's going to be one of those weird because of travel and and You know they always seem to do that when when they went to London yeah, they they kind of had a weird ass experience there And so I just I don't know I I can see with it being a new defense The offense not really playing a ton in the preseason. They're gonna have to knock off the roast and I ah just I don't know I
00:27:15
Speaker
I think as much as I don't want it to be, I, I, I'm one of those that it's, you know, 21 and O every year and shit like that, but, um, kind of to be different from you. And, and like I said, I flip flop with week one and week two, a hundred different times. I put, I put it for a loss.
00:29:06
Speaker
Well, that's what I mean. I think it's going to be a ah sloppy game either way, but.
00:29:57
Speaker
oh i Think the biggest reason why I have this as an iffy game is Kind of like I just said with Mike dropped out ah kind of what I just said with um The Eagles that I just think it It's going to be one of those sloppy
00:30:28
Speaker
Not as. I think it's going to be one of those sloppy games. i And and really the thing about the Colts is they're putting together a sneaky good team. Yeah. And I was trying to pull up their roster because they've they've got. They've got players and I do think it's going to really. Really screw with the Packers.
00:30:58
Speaker
I mean, you got Anthony Richardson that maybe doesn't have the... Oh, what's the word for it? He's got an arm to him, but it's it's a wild arm. It's not a refined arm. It's early Josh Allen. It's early Josh Allen kind of thing, yeah. Right, but he also can move with his legs.
00:31:22
Speaker
and and
00:31:25
Speaker
with not knowing what this defense can do right now. Good Lord. The guy's six four to 44. That's huge for a frigging quarterback. Yeah. Um, so I mean, without knowing what this, this, uh, defense can do, it kind of scares me when you've got a quarterback that can run and has a good, has a strong arm. It may not be a good arm right now, but it's a strong arm and he, and he's got,
00:31:55
Speaker
weapons to throw to I mean ah The speedster, I mean you got ad nine Mitchell Alec Pierce Michael Pittman jr. You know just those three right there are are You know weapons to be afraid of so Yeah, I mean I got it at a whim just because I like I said I was flip-flopping week one and week two and But I could see that be an issue being an issue, depending on how the defense comes out of out of Brazil. Yeah. And just be ready for a certain bunch of Packers fans to be insufferable about that game for two of those names at the receiver room that you listed. Pittman Jr., which is a stupid one because Love looks like he is the next coming. And Pierce,
00:32:47
Speaker
you know depending on whichever side you fall on the Christian Watts infant so be prepared for insufferable Packers fans who just can't be happy with anything. um Well you might even get some because of Adnai Mitchell. Oh yeah. Because I know he was another one that was being talked high up by certain Packer fans. Yeah so to each their own but just mentally prepped for that one.
00:33:12
Speaker
but um Week three nobody get it and it's gonna be a hell of a shut the fuck up next week. I can tell you that um um One thing that I wanted to note um Before just overall I do like It's tough on the travel because they're gonna be flying all over the place But most of their travel is gonna be kind of staying to the East Coast more Eastern or Middle America region, but I do kind of like that. They're not you know in the first day six weeks of the season you're not getting a super huge sway of like they're playing too many games on the road or too many games at home that you're gonna be super lopsided come the down the back stretch of the season so I do like that they start the season like going
00:33:56
Speaker
Road home, road home, road home and stuff. So, um, on to week three at Tennessee, I got this one as a win. Kind of similar to what I said about Indy where I think, but I think you'll agree a little more that Tennessee is a couple years from being a couple of years away as opposed to being a year from being a year away. It's going to depend on how Will Lavis, uh, right develops and go from there. He didn't have the,
00:34:26
Speaker
the luxury of doing what Love was able to do and sit behind and didn't have the luxury of what Rogers could do and sit behind. And that one I've always had circled because one of the biggest comps for Will Levis going into the draft was Jordan Love. So and that one's going to be an interesting one.
00:34:49
Speaker
oh Honestly, without looking it up, I don't know much about Tennessee's team I think they still got ah Hopkins, don't they? i Yeah, I think so. But no more, what's it called? We don't have to worry about um Derek Henry anymore, so.
00:35:12
Speaker
Yeah, so I i mean, sorry, I got something caught in my throat. oh Yeah, I mean, they've got players too, but they're not as scary as But I mean, you've got like Jeffrey Simmons, who's gonna tear things up. ah They did. ah I mean, they got a lot of names. If this was friggin Madden, you'd worry about it a little bit more. But you know, like Harold Landry, Arden Key, ah Kenneth Murray, guys like that, the
00:35:52
Speaker
You know, they have the name value to them, but do they still have the ability to play? They have my favorite running back though. So maybe we, even though they don't have Derek Henry, it's still going to be scary with Tijay Spears. Um, I love that guy. And then of course, this one's going to be another one that people are going to bitch about because they, we didn't end up with trailing Berks. Oh, and that was another Packer fan favorite. So yeah.
00:36:21
Speaker
I got it as a win also.
00:36:25
Speaker
week four is the first division game minnesota in lambo um i think yup we both have this as wind Yeah, if the Packers dropped this one to a Sam Darnold led team, then they're in all kinds of fucking trouble.
00:36:41
Speaker
I think, yeah, and honestly, unless there's been some injuries, I don't think this is a week that you worry about the quote unquote, ah the the annual Packers dumb loss of the season. I don't think that'll be the case. I think um I think you're going to see a little bit of a redemption tour for Jordan, where you know he had one of his worst games of the season against the Vikings in Lambeau last season. And I think he's going to be looking to ah right the ship in that
Schedule Rhythm and Performance
00:37:09
Speaker
regard. So um yeah, I got this one as a win for the Packers as well. so I mean, you've got the guys that you've got to be worried about. Obviously, you've got to worry about Jordan Addison. You've got to worry about Justin Jefferson. And really, that's about the extent
00:37:27
Speaker
of things on offense. And as much g grief as Packers fans gave Kirk Cousins, he was night and day better ah better quarterback than Sam Darnold. So like you said, if they get lit up by Darnold, they've got they've got issues. So um I better hope that they're injury related and not like, oh, halfly socks or, you know, a bunch of players are underperforming things like that. So yeah. And they're still not even they don't have the names on defense anymore either so i mean they don't even really scare you over there and they just cut their their first round pick from like two or three years ago so uh their their genius gm is not showing too well so um yeah
00:38:17
Speaker
It's the Vikings, everyone. Alright, week five at the Rams. So this is our next split fork in the road. I've got this one as a loss. I just think that um Like I said, while most of the travel has been, um you know, kind of outside of the Brazil game, but you've got a couple extra days to deal with that one coming back home to Lambo after. I think, you know, that first West Coast road trip is always a little wonky for a team. And I know that did the good thing is that this one isn't on like a short week or anything like that, but it always does just
00:38:55
Speaker
kind of and the Packers are still a young team I know that they've got a bunch of guys with playing experience but they're relying on a lot of rookies you know you don't you got they're not used to the quick turnarounds and all that kind of stuff so I just see this as one where Stafford's able to pick on some of the rookies and score enough points to beat us at in ah SoFi Stadium
00:39:19
Speaker
I've got it as a win just because for some reason out of everybody that's come out of the Shanahan tree, LeFlore has only been able to hand McVeigh his ass. The rest of the time he can't beat any of the former coaching mates, but for some reason McVeigh is the one, you know, LeFlore is McVeigh's kryptonite or whatever. yeah I mean, they've got a good team. Uh,
00:39:49
Speaker
and like I i just mostly picking it off of the travel like if this game was in Lambo, I think I would pick the Packers but because it's That you know that that first like cross-country road trip kind of thing and it's not to Open the season, you know, it's in the midst of the season rolling and stuff I do think that that might trip them up a little bit And they do have your boy at running back back there so Uh, yeah. Uh, don't do good. that So I don't know. yeah So yeah, I got it as a win just because and the floor is seem to always roll McVay.
00:40:30
Speaker
So math skills providing, like I said, slightly sleep deprived for both of us. We've both sitting at four and one moving through week five, week six. Uh, sorry. Another thing I failed to mention. These games, the Packers, other than week one, they're playing just your, um, standard times on, uh, Sundays so far through week six, uh, really through week, uh,
00:41:02
Speaker
not till week 13 do they play another primetime I mean I know that um you know the um what did they call it what's the networks yeah flex scheduling and bliata yada yada but so far the Packers are playing the first basically two-thirds of their schedule on standard like just Sunday programming, except for, like I said, this
Mid-Season Strategies Against Strong Teams
00:41:24
Speaker
Friday's game. So that also sets, you know, you get a young team, get them in a rhythm, get them in a routine and stuff. So that that does help promote learning skills and all that kind of stuff. Week six, the Cardinals come to down. I think we both think the same about the Cardinals. Not a very good team and a game that Green Bay should win.
00:41:46
Speaker
Also, I do not have this as one of those. I don't have this as the dumb loss of the season. so ah that's I mean, it's possible. yeah Anything's possible, and it's also dependent on what the health of the team is.
00:42:06
Speaker
Going in and that's that's why it's so hard to predict any kind of game. Yeah, and you don't you can't predict ah But like you said reason all that. and Yeah, but just purely as an on-paper kind of thing This is a game that Green Bay should win by at least a couple scores. So um They should be rolling at this point week seven. This is gonna be one of the big first ten The Eagles, you know, we the Eagles game should be a big test, but it's week one. Week one is weird. This week seven game against Houston, I will i'll be shocked if this doesn't get flexed at least to the um the America's Game of the Week portion of the schedule. Right now, it's a noon kickoff in Lambeau, but we both got this one as a loss.
00:42:54
Speaker
i think i dont And not from my point of view, I don't think because of love I think this is one where um a Good Texans offense is going to be able to take advantage of a still um Learning how to fly Packers defense under half Lee. So that's kind of how I got this one chopped up.
00:43:17
Speaker
I Think a lot of it is gonna be how CJ Stroud handles his sophomore season um You know, they're going to have a hell of a a defense just because of who their head coach is. And they are stacked as hell when it comes to wide receivers. Yeah. Tank Dell, which I'm really surprised at how well he's been able to to take on the league. I, I remember having the discussions last year about tank Dell that he was a hell of a frigging athlete. It's just, could he handle it with his body size?
00:43:53
Speaker
ah x Xavier Hutchinson, John Metchie, Robert Woods, and Stefan Diggs as your two ah veterans of the group. And so it just, they've got a hell of an offense going on there. They're tight ends. Scholz and Jordan added Cade Stover there.
00:44:20
Speaker
I think their offensive line is still their kind of weakness, isn't it? A little bit. Their tackles should be good, but yeah, everything else on that line is a little iffy, so um we'll see.
00:44:31
Speaker
and um Yeah, Nico Collins. Nico Collins is their there um their breadwinner at wide receiver. So that'll be a, and that'll be very interesting because we'll kind of, we'll kind of find out how healthy um Stokes is by that point in the season, because you don't really want Jair on Collins because Collins is six foot four and uses his size very well. Um, that's, you know, that's the kind of guy that Jair has had trouble against in the past. So, um, you're going to want to see. But then again, you've, you've faced the other side of it where do you stick
00:45:09
Speaker
Jair on tank dell or do you stick stokes on tank dell with the speeds? I mean Jair is fast too but stokes as I would I would put Jair on dell because I think dell I don't I don't think Stokes will be able to stay with dell other than in a straight line So that's where I've kind of gotten that one. I just don't think that you can you know be kind of like um telling, like, um, Rizool to stay on a shifty white, you know, that's what Dell is. He's fast, but he's also really shifty. So, um, asking Stokes, who's, ah you know, similar to Zool, you know, he's faster than Rizool, but similar where he doesn't gear down and change directions very quickly. Just, you know, that's kind of the effect of being on an over six foot one cornerback. There aren't many that move as quick as a receiver. So, um, yeah.
00:46:02
Speaker
yeah you know just kind of to put a bow on it what we're talking about right now the matchups are just not really in Green Bay's favor unless some of these young secondary players take a take a jump or as you kind of alluded to if the defensive front can just own this game if that happens then all bets are off but just looking at it on paper the weapons that Houston has to bring to the table um Stroud might be able to just kind of get the ball out quick and let his guys do work kind of things so but That's why they play the game, but so far we both have the Packers sitting at um five and two at this point of the season. Week eight at Jacksonville. This is another one of our splits on the season. I've got this one as a win, you as a loss. I kind of think I know where you're going on this one, but tell me what you're thinking.
00:46:56
Speaker
oh you probably do and it's not for some reason the packers can't handle going down to fucking florida yeah and it's been two different quarterbacks yeah yeah exactly yeah so i i mean whatever it is anytime they've ever had to play in jacksonville they just get their ass handed it's not even the jag wars right so i i mean overall the team doesn't scare me on paper but it's just one of those they got Yeah, this one is definitely opening the door. And like you said, Jacksonville isn't a terrible team. But there, you know, there's somewhere between a decent to a good team, depending on what you think of Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence. But I do leave the door open to this being a dumb loss for the Packers where
00:47:42
Speaker
Like, and I say dumb, where it's like, this is either a game that slips away late because they don't put it away early like they should, or um they just make too many mistakes. And it's, you know, it's a game, the whole the adage of like, they dominated this game on the score on on the stat sheet, but not on the scoreboard kind of thing and stuff. So I can I can see that running out this way. Like you said, weird shit happens to the Packers in Jacksonville and and this time it is actually the jag war so yeah we'll see how that one turns out and it'll be a josiah daguaro revenge oh god he's gonna catch some
Division Rivalry Matchups
00:48:22
Speaker
he's gonna catch a fucking titan league play like uh the the musgrave touchdown against dallas week nine in detroit another measuring stick game but we both have this one as a win
00:48:37
Speaker
I've got the Packers marching into the Buy Strong, Joel, same idea. Well, not just that, but I just, I think the Packers will stand up strong against Detroit at home.
00:48:53
Speaker
I don't think they're going to let Detroit come in and beat them that way. I think they're still sour after what happened in that Thursday night game last year. um And there're the Packers are a better team than they were at that point. you know they were They had a broken offensive line going into that game. They were still feeling out. you know That that ah offense was still feeling itself out. So yeah, um I just think they are the better team but at this point. I know Detroit fans will say otherwise, but alas.
00:49:22
Speaker
Week 10? Well, I mean, Detroit scares me also because oh yeah just because of the play. But I just don't think the Packers are going to let them come in and beat them in that land vote. Yeah. Week 10, the Packers will not lose a game because they're on a buy. Quick note, I do like that the buy is almost smack dab middle of the season. um And then to add on to that, we'll get into it when we get to that part of the scheduling. But not only do they have the buy in the middle of the season, but they're going to get that mini buy after they play some Thursday night games. So I do like that their schedule is going to kind of massage itself out that way where they'll have some extended rest for guys
00:50:03
Speaker
on the middle and then kind of down the back half of the season. Week 11. Week 10 is usually when the college season is done, isn't it? Or is it week 12? It's going to be more week 12 because it's kind of that Thanksgiving-ish area. Yeah, because I was just going to say because that would be about the time that any any of the rookies yeah start suffering from fatigue because they haven't played. The safeties.
00:50:32
Speaker
So week two, it was a good time to have a yeah buy. And then they come out of the buy and they go to Chicago and we both have that as a win. I don't care about what anything the the Bears fans say. You're starting a rookie quarterback. You have no idea what he can and can't do. You still have issues on the team, even though you have some solid players over there.
00:51:03
Speaker
I still don't trust that O-line. and Yeah. And that's the thing is like... Kill him, and this is nothing against Kill... I do think he is as talented as he is touted to be. His problem is like, he just had a season where he was playing behind a shitty O-line, and if the whole point is to have him learn to be a, quote unquote, NFL quarterback first, he ain't gonna do that if he's running for his life behind a kind of shoddy offensive line, so...
00:51:31
Speaker
we'll see you know We'll have a decent idea of what he is and isn't by that point in the season, because you know he'll have you know half his games under his belt as well at that point. But I just think that um Green Bay is just in the Bears' mind, kind of like how the Patriots just were in certain teams' minds as well you know and over the Brady years. I just think that you know the the Bears, they talk strong and all that kind of stuff. but I think it hurts them that we haven't even had the same quarterback. Like, you know, it's been Farb, it's been Rodgers. Even throw Brett Hundley. Like, they couldn't beat us when we had Brett friggin' Hundley starting for us. And now Love is 2-0 against them as well. So, yeah. I just think that it's a mental block for them.
00:52:20
Speaker
And I mean, the offense is going to be a solid depending on on Caleb Williams, but their defense just doesn't. Yeah. Doesn't. I know it turned up at the end of last season, but they were placing a bunch of part pieces as well. And ah you know, Montes sweat, he played really well, but it was kind of like a career and contract year kind of situation for him. So we'll see how that pays itself forward, moving forward and.
00:52:47
Speaker
They got a bunch of other guys that are still question marks on that roster. Um, okay. I'm going to kind of lump week 12 and 13 together. Cause I think you and I sort of had similar thoughts on these two games where they're going to win one and lose the other one. Is that kind of what you were getting where you were coming from on that one a little bit? Kind of. Um, I think.
00:53:15
Speaker
Because for some reason, when it comes to the regular season, the Packers can beat the 49ers. But when it comes to the the postseason, they can't. And with the being at home, um I think. They'll play them a lot harder because they if you remember, right. Outside of a couple of dumb plays in the postseason, the Packers had the 49ers on the ropes as is. Yeah. So.
00:53:45
Speaker
You know, I think they can handle them. The Miami game, I don't know. I don't think Tua is going to have the quote unquote back injury again that knocked him loopy for a whole game. And, and I think the Packers young team is going to struggle with the speedsters at wide receiver that that Miami has.
00:54:09
Speaker
yeah this is one of those where i just can't see them winning both these games um the thing you worry about too is like
00:54:18
Speaker
They might get so physically beat up by that when they play Miami on that short week. It's like oh shit Like that's a lot of speed that you got to deal with and all that kind of stuff So yeah, I know I know I have it as a loss to San Fran into the wind verse Miami But yeah, I hear what you're saying that it's probably more likely that they you know They go into that game pissed off the good way kind of pissed
Season Issues: Rookies & Defense
00:54:40
Speaker
off. So, you know, they play harder Tougher kind of thing and come out on top and then they might just kind of be physically spent by the time they get into the Miami game but that would be the ideal you get a Big win over one of your NFC rivals and your loss is a you know, it's a it's a non-conference loss So it you know, it counts it quote-unquote counts the same as one loss in the standings But you go to the whole tiebreakers and all that kind of shit. It it makes a big difference So that would be the ideal way for it to go
00:55:10
Speaker
week 14. Okay. And like I said, week 13 and 14 are oh actually, as the schedule lays out 13 week 13 through week 16 is the Packers, uh, prime time slate after week one. So we go Thursday night football on the 13 Thursday night football on the 14th. The week 13 one is the Thanksgiving day game and then week 14 is their thing is their third is their mandated every team must play a Thursday night game game so Week 14 another split decision for the two of us um Why you just think that um it's gonna be kind of we're hitting that point where the Season is a slog for the rookies and all that kind of stuff
00:56:01
Speaker
No, I just think Detroit had, unless something major happens with Detroit, I do think that they're a tough team now. And that's what I was kind of hinting at earlier when I was saying that I don't think the Packers are going to let Detroit win at Lambo. But that doesn't mean that the, you know, the Lions aren't going to be a tough team going forward. So I think that they do split the the series with Detroit.
00:56:30
Speaker
and Detroit just takes it at home on that shitty ass field.
00:56:38
Speaker
Yeah, fair enough, fair enough. then week 15 we've both got it as a loss at Seattle the Packers will be coming off 10 days yeah their mini buy after the week 14 Thursday night game but this one this one is my dumb loss of the season I just think you come off of that kind of rough stretch of San Fran Miami Detroit Three games in a, what is that? Six. Three games in an 11 day window. I know Green Babe did well in that scenario last year. He had the tide turning winds against the Chargers, but the Lions, and then you beat the Chiefs coming out the back end of it. But I just think, like kind of like how I had the Rams game, I think that going from that Detroit game into a West Coast trip, it's just gonna kind of
00:57:32
Speaker
Plus you might have rookies who are running a little bit on fumes. I just think the team might um have that off game where you're just like, you look back at the end of the season and go, how the fuck did they lose that game? So that's where I'm kind of going with that one. Yeah, I kind of agree with that. I mean, on paper, the Seahawks shouldn't really be scary. But you are going up to Seattle. You are dealing with maybe some fatigue. There's probably going to be some Injuries that they have to worry about so yeah, I can see it being a dumb loss Week 16 the team's lone Monday night game of the season ah We both have this as a win over the Saints
00:58:19
Speaker
I think this Saints team is going to suck really bad this season. they they I think they're still rolling with Derek Carr. I don't really understand what the direction this franchise is moving in. Can they even do anything? Yeah. Are they still that far in the cap hill that there's
00:58:41
Speaker
Yeah, I think sinkum I think that they're just there. Yeah, it's a whole bunch of different factors. But I just think that they're at a loss for words at this point. So yeah, I got I got this as a pretty big win for the Packers. And I do think this will help further as they get themselves ready for the postseason. So ah they kind of start to ratchet it up for some postseason play here.
00:59:06
Speaker
Week 17 at Minnesota um Sunday game. Two wins. i think I think by this point the Vikings will be packing in the tent. um Who knows if Darnold will even be starting at this point. and They might just kind of kind of like they did last year when we played them in week 17. They might be giving it to some young quarterback just to see if that player can be the backup to JJ McCarthy moving forward. but I just think that this will be kind of a tune up. um What I will say is what's just totally brain farting on the um Flores. I do think that Flores's unit will throw the kitchen sink at the Packers in both games. So I do think it'll be good for love to you know see that kind of attacking defense on the doorstep of the playoffs. But I just don't think Minnesota is going to have any
00:59:58
Speaker
um
01:00:01
Speaker
Motivation or want to to win this game, you know, I know that it's a it's a rivalry game and all that kind of stuff But I just think the Vikings are gonna be a battered roster by this point of the season mentally physically. and Well, here's the Here's the three quarterbacks they have on the roster right now Sam Darnold Nick Mullins and Brett ripen ripping
01:00:24
Speaker
but i I don't care if you've got the second coming of frickin' Jerry Rice on your team. That's not scary.
01:00:36
Speaker
ye and i think that i don't even see an extra qb on their friggin practice squad and that's only like i said it's a too as much as i say it's a tune up for the the packers the packers offense i think this defense will be trying to um you know polish off some stats at the end of the season and stuff so i i think this could be ah um a bloodbath kind of game for the packers um in their favor put that out into the universe ah And then closing out the season, just like last year, the Packers are hosting the Bears. I hope it'll be less stressful than it was last year, but kind of the same as Minnesota, as much as Bear fans want to believe otherwise, I don't think the Bears will have much to be playing for. Who knows if Williams will even be starting at that point, whether, you know, pending his health.
01:01:26
Speaker
um I know this is not me saying I hope he gets hurt I just think that you they're gonna get to a point where he either is hurt or you're kind of like does it matter for us to get him beat up one more time or do we save his body some hits kind of thing and stuff so I honestly do think that that's where the bears are gonna be I don't think they'll be top pick bad but I think they will be like top 10 Like I said, Bears fans are delusional. They're hoping on hope that the turnaround is here, but I don't think it's anywhere close. That roster needs a lot of work and that coaching staff surviving last season, I have no idea why or how. I don't know. I'm not the biggest Caleb Williams fan, but I'm also not a doubter of his. I mean,
01:02:17
Speaker
There were just some things that I saw on the sidelines with him that kind of does he have his full heart in it when he was playing at USC last year? So I know it's a different, completely different scenario right now, but I just don't see how the Bears can go from the worst team in the league to the best team in the league and in just a single season. So They're going to have their ups and downs. They're going to still figure out what their team is all about. But they're not going to be a great team. No. You said you don't know how they're going to be turn it around and be a great team. I know the answer to that, Joe. Be a Bears fan. They have all the answers. No shit. So wrapping it up, ah I've got the Packers at 13 and 4. Joe's got them at 11 and 6.
01:03:16
Speaker
I know that sounds like a lot, but I'm being probably overly optimistic on a lot of these scenarios. Joe's, I don't think being pessimistic, probably just being, I would say, more realistic. It's hard to win 13 games. um Winning 10 games is hard in the NFL, and um as good as this roster is overall,
01:03:38
Speaker
It's going to swing on how quickly Halfly can get this defense rolling, how quickly or you know like how quickly the young safeties can play well, or how much Halfly is able to adjust on the fly to cover up and you know paper mache over holes. and you know if he can hold the water back as he gets those guys um up to snuff you know to be you know they're not going to be all pros as rookies expecting that is um setting yourself up for doom and gloom but if he can get them to be you know and this is gonna sound stupid to a lot of people if he can get them to be league average passable players that is a huge step for rookies i i think people underestimate how big of a leap that is for
01:04:23
Speaker
an incoming rookie especially non first round picks to come in and be you know heavy contributors on a playoff contending team that has Super Bowl aspirations and to play at a league average or you know slightly better level that is a big return on investment for the Packers and what basically they
Misleading Sports Articles: A Critique
01:04:43
Speaker
signal to us that they're hoping and expecting to get based on how they constructed this 53 man roster but Joe, that's a wrap on our season. Yeah, like you said, it's a little bit of crash course, but um this is going to be our last ah you know products you know preview show of the whole season before we get into the 2024 regular season. um So I lobbed the softball to you. What you got in your shut the fuck up segment for this week?
01:05:14
Speaker
Well, it was kind of hard to find some just because of being on vacation. But low and behold, when I got home, there were several of them. The universe always provides.
01:05:25
Speaker
And like I kind of mentioned oh earlier, one of them is about the Malik Willis trade. And it's from Lombardi Avenue. And it's by Freddie Boston. And this is the the title of the article.
01:05:44
Speaker
um Malik Willish trade looks even worse for Packers after Matt LeFlore's latest comments. It could be Sean Clifford time again. So basically he goes through and talks about how many thought they would go for an experienced quarterback. Then he lists Mike White and Tyler Huntley as possible of players available and Ryan Tannehill and
01:06:14
Speaker
so on and so on. And then he quotes Matt Schneiderman, saying that Matt Leflore says he'll take the week to determine who will back up Jordan Love on Friday, whether it be Malik Willis or Sean Clifford, elevated from practice quad. Basically, my shut the fuck up moment for this thing is it's a but it's a clickbait article, because he answers his own question at the end of the article. It's Willis needs time to learn the offense, so it won't be surprising if the Packers go with Clifford for week one. No fucking kidding. They traded for the guy at the end of the preseason. He's had less than a week in the system. Would it surprise anybody if Clifford is backing up a Jordan Love week one or two?
01:07:06
Speaker
wouldn't surprise me one bit. It shouldn't. It takes, I think people, not I think, people don't respect or appreciate how long it takes to learn a playbook. And to go a step further on the, you know, all the Malique Willis stuff and, you know, this and that and all.
01:07:23
Speaker
Is it the route I would have gone? Probably not, but... Okay, to kind of explain the whole like Clifford, Pratt, Willis, how does that all fit? Basically, how I read the tea leaves that Gudukunz has put down is that, um you know, Pratt was their lottery ticket, you know, quarterback prospect, you know, ah you know whatever label you want to put on it.
01:07:49
Speaker
but Willis you got for a seventh round pick which okay that's another one that I've seen some wild ones that it's like you've got in these guys but at the same time it's like you don't list the 20 other guys that Goot has picked taking flyers on that didn't make it or amount to anything um and you use that on a guy who yes he hasn't played well necessarily but when he's played for Tennessee he hasn't had a lot of helping him out and His NFL snaps are more than whatever Clifford's gotten in terms of kneel down opportunities. And he still has far more upside than Clifford and might have more upside than Pratt, honestly. So I think it's a good gamble. And, you know, I know Pratt's been there since the draft, but, um,
01:08:41
Speaker
I don't think he's, you know, Willis would be that far behind the learning curve in terms of picking up the offense because who knows how much of the playbook Pratt really learned between the time he was drafted to now, you know, they they teach rookies segments of the playbook to make sure that they have it down pat as they go through and then it's like,
01:09:01
Speaker
You know, it's it's like when you do like an online course and it's like make sure you can pass the quiz at the end of this section kind of thing Can you pass it? Can you pass it? Oh you passed it. Okay, here's section two kind of thing So it's not different from learning an NFL play with they're not gonna just keep giving you sections and you don't learn any of them You keep fucking the plays up every week. So yeah, it's gonna take time no matter what And Here's where the hypocrisy steps in again You just ragged on how, or you just went nuts on how the kicker that they just brought in did a lot better in the preseason than Anders. So you're happy to have Narveson on the team, but yet you're throwing this clickbait article out there on how the Willis trade was bad and, and that it still may go for Clifford.
01:09:58
Speaker
But yet Malik Willis had a better preseason than either Pratt or Clifford. Exactly. So. Which is it? You go by their preseason record or their past.
Player Trades Impact: Jones for Jacobs
01:10:13
Speaker
You can't have it both ways there, but so in the words of Iowa, Joe, shut the fuck up. Next. goes And then the last. ah i've I've got two more and I'm debating on which one to go with.
01:10:29
Speaker
They're both kind of, I already did a clickbait article, so we'll go with the other ones. Uh, this is a tweet from Raheem Palmer at, I am Ross Stradamus on Twitter or X or whatever. Quote, the Packers letting Aaron Jones walk for Josh Jacobs is going to be one of the reasons they don't win the division this this year, and maybe even missed the postseason. This loss isn't being talked about enough at all.
01:11:01
Speaker
OK, that doesn't make sense when the Packers still made the playoffs last year while missing Aaron Jones for half the season. I'm one of the biggest Aaron Jones supporters you're going to want to meet. I love the dude. He's a great guy. His whole family is a wonderful family. But that's a horrible thing. Josh Jacobs is younger, has A better track record when it comes to injury or being healthy has great stats for being on shitty Raiders teams. and all In all likelihood, just being on the pessimistic side, it's a wash. Giving up Jacobs for, or I mean, giving up Jones for Jacobs.
01:11:55
Speaker
on the optimistic side, they got a lot better. And that's from a guy who really loves Aaron Jones. And for you to say that, and he did kind of try to follow up, if Michonne Lloyd emerges and is what they thought he would be out of USC, then you can disregard this. But the explosiveness of Aaron Jones is a big part of what made the Packers offense so good.
01:12:26
Speaker
Yeah, but Jacob's is explosive. He's bigger. He runs the same. His body can handle it a little bit more.
01:12:39
Speaker
And and. Again, he's younger. He's got a better track record when it comes to help. So. You can't just say, oh, well, they're going to do shit because they lost one player.
01:12:53
Speaker
Well, as much as I love Aaron Jones, one player does not make a team.
01:12:59
Speaker
Yeah, and that's pretty bold to say that the they're gonna like you said it's the part where it's like they're not winning the division because of this move like No, if they don't win the division, it's because they're deep their new defense doesn't work The rookies can't get up to speed the love has a I know it's not his second season but his second is he has a slump or The receivers are all hurt again or also all have slumps. So it it won't like you said Everyone is, everyone outside the Packers is throwing all of this on the Aaron Jones thing because they remember the two playoff games. But like we said, and I hate having this conversation, same as you, I hate having this conversation on a guy like Aaron Jones who is beloved and should be beloved, not because of the the stuff he does on the football field is secondary to the person he is off the football field.
01:13:56
Speaker
But we discussed it in leading up to the playoff games. We discussed postsees it you know, in the offseason before the whole Jacob signing and Jones release happened is how much of that is you can count on Aaron Jones being week in and week out and how much of his last month of the season and playoffs production was because he missed the first half of the season.
01:14:23
Speaker
and I think people making comments like this completely forget how ineffective he looked when he tried to come back from his hamstring injury in the middle of the scene because I think they forget that he had the hamstring injury week one that he came back against the Lions looked completely unplayable and then kind of was like in and out of the lineup for Four to five more weeks kind of thing and it wasn't until you hit that sort of stretch run down the end of the season Where it was like, oh my god, Aaron Jones is back in the Packers offense is perfect again Yes, like Jones opens it up and He's more explosive from just like uh, you know from one view of putting it but Jacobs is gonna give you the best
01:15:13
Speaker
outcome of what you wanted AJ Dillon to be for this team. That's what people aren't looking at this properly. And then to say that, and no, Emmanuel Wilson is not a household name. Marshawn Lloyd hasn't played enough to prove anything yet, but if either of those guys is able to be a functional second back,
01:15:37
Speaker
That's more than enough for this offense. And you can bet heavily that Lafleur is going to incorporate Jaden Reed as a, you know, as a backfield option. Um, you've got, you know, Tucker Kraft, who's probably gonna, you know, get the, the George Kittle, um, um, the hat, you know, the like reverse handoff kind of thing. They're gonna do some funky ass stuff. You're gonna get some reverses and some jet sweeps and shit like that. Yeah. so
01:16:09
Speaker
I think that, you know, and like we talked we spent all of last offseason talking about all the shit that Rodgers didn't want in the office. Love is going to use, you know, LaFlores putting it back in the offense and love is going to do it. And we saw that over the course of last season. And I think that because of the AJ Dillon injury, because they don't want to, you know, and that's the thing is like, everyone's like, oh, why doesn't Aaron Jones get 25 carries a game?
01:16:34
Speaker
because he kind of wears down at the end of the season. Same thing for Josh Jacobs like he's more robust and sturdy than Jones's but you also don't want his legs going out in November so you know I do expect that early in the season there is gonna be like a 15 to to 10 carry split they're gonna do something but yeah I think that talk of the demise of the Packers season because of swapping um Jacobs for ah for Jones for Jacobs I guess from the Packers point of view is irresponsible and just negligent reporting.
01:17:18
Speaker
Well and that also you got to remember the guys that they brought onto the practice squad too uh Michael P. Ryan and Ellis Merryweather so They're going to have playmakers from that spot. It just. so Yeah, that's the whole point of it. You're not losing anything by trading Josh Jacobs for Aaron Jones.
Season Conclusion & Expectations
01:17:44
Speaker
If anything, it is a slight upgrade because. Again, Jacobs is a bigger back to where he can handle the punishment where Jones was struggling with a lot of that shit, so.
01:17:59
Speaker
Again, I love Aaron Jones, but what was your name again? Raheem Palmer, shut the fuck up. All right. I think that we have pulled ourselves across the finish line tonight. um We will be doing our Thursday, you know, this is going to be so weird because the game is on Friday, but our opponent preview podcast will be coming out on Thursday. So keep an eye out for that. We're getting the ball rolling on that one. Um,
01:18:27
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Because the game is at 2.15 for me in the afternoon, I'm going to have to see if I can find a little area that I can question myself to and do the pregame space. But I am going to try and get that going so that you know we can get in ah um I'll get in the habit of doing that. it'll If I am able to do it, it'll be a half hour before kickoff.
01:18:47
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01:19:12
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01:19:50
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You know, we're still working on the um the polls. I know this one is going to be a quick turnaround, but I will kind of post one for the pregame space to see, you know, what we want to go into, things like that. You have to be following that Twitter account to be eligible for any drawings that we have. I know that we are slowly climbing in our follower counts.
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01:20:25
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joy I have spoken the packers are gonna have a great season. We're gonna make the playoffs All positive thinking here. Um, the season kicks off Friday. Um, like I said eight Who knows what time is it? They say eight twenties. Yeah the the ball is gonna get kicked off on Friday evening afternoon depending on what part of the country you're in and the Packers are gonna be playing the Eagles oh one more thing they are going to wear green all of those talks that Brazil bans green jerseys and shit in their stadium that was all for not though one thing that is popping up now is that Twitter might be banned for reporters or I still don't understand how that's gonna work out so that'll be funny as shit. But no know we're not in Brazil so we will be tweeting about the game as it goes along. Follow along with us as we get the 2024 season kicked off. That's Iowa Joe, I'm Mike Kuana. Go Pack Go and Aloha.