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How to Stay Strong, Faithful, and Courageous Through Life’s Challenges
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In this heartfelt episode of Finding My Best Self, Mandi St. Germain sits down with Katey Scott, the latest Beyond The Cape Icon. Katey opens up about her journey through grief, self-discovery, and resilience after loss. She shares how faith, fitness, and intentional self-care have helped her navigate life’s challenges while inspiring others along the way. Listen in as Katey reveals the powerful affirmations behind her new athleisure collection and the mindset shifts that have shaped her path forward.
Tune in to hear an inspiring conversation about courage, faith, and finding your best self—no matter what life throws your way.
And as always, remember:
YOU ARE STRONG.
YOU ARE CAPABLE.
YOU ARE WORTHY.
I love you and I’m ENDLESSLY rooting for you!
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Intro
Introduction & Guest Introduction
00:01:04
Pamela Rivet
Welcome back to the Finding My Best Self podcast. I'm Mandi St. Germain and today I have Katie Scott with me. Katie Scott and I met a couple of years ago. We have similar interests and our daughters met at the school that they were going to.
00:01:16
Katey
And.
00:01:19
Pamela Rivet
And so Katie is going to share a little bit about her. But before we get into it, I want you to, if you can, by the end of the podcast episode, leave us a review. We always love to hear what you have to say.
00:01:31
Pamela Rivet
how you feel the episodes are going and also leave us some topics in there. We want to share the content that you want to hear and that you love. So,
Life as a Mom and Widow
00:01:40
Pamela Rivet
Katie, I'm going to let you kind of introduce yourself a little bit.
00:01:43
Pamela Rivet
Just tell us a little tidbit about you and um um I'll give it over.
00:01:49
Katey
So I'm Katie, like Mandy said, um I am a mama to a 13 year old, can't believe it.
00:01:58
Katey
And unfortunately approaching two years of widowhood,
00:02:07
Katey
you know, that it's just a journey with that in itself. I am luckily a stay-at-home mom. You know, in my husband and I's lives, we always prepared for the what-ifs. And thankfully, and you know, obviously I'd do anything to get him back and have him here, but I've been thankful and appreciative of all of his hard work over his lifetime that I'm still able to be completely present with Maddie
00:02:41
Katey
I didn't have to hop into finding a job and things like that. So stay at home, Mama. I love fashion, all the girly things, makeup, hair, everything that comes with that.
Challenges and Growth in the 30s
00:02:57
Katey
A big part of my life since Josh passed away has been the gym and mental health and just learning to take care of myself and it's okay to put myself first because if I'm not my best self I can't be there for other people. I am gonna be 32 this year. It's weird like that's one of those you turn 30 and you're like
00:03:33
Katey
Oh my gosh, you know, but then now everyone told me the 30s were the best years of my life or being in my 30s have been the best years of my life.
00:03:35
Pamela Rivet
I know.
00:03:42
Katey
And when I turned 30, you know, Josh had just passed away. And for me, I'm like, okay, you know, how are the 30s going to be the best years of my life?
00:03:50
Pamela Rivet
Right, how?
00:03:53
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:03:54
Katey
but given the circumstances, it's true.
00:03:58
Katey
Like I've, you are just so much more developed. And I've just learned how to soak in and appreciate the day-to-day and the 30s, my 30s have, you know, I'm only a few years in, but it really has been some pretty decent years.
00:04:20
Pamela Rivet
Well, coming from my elder 30, okay, almost 40. It is absolutely the best years of your life.
00:04:27
Pamela Rivet
And honestly, I'm kind of looking forward to 40, even though that they say that like body starts to decline. So I'm not looking forward to that, but it is. It's exactly what you're saying. like You feel like you finally like step into you and you know who you are.
00:04:40
Katey
Mm hmm.
00:04:42
Pamela Rivet
Thirty five is kind of that point where it starts to change again. But definitely if I could go back, I always say like 30 to 32 is like my golden years.
00:04:51
Pamela Rivet
Like I felt my best self then.
00:04:52
Katey
Yeah.
00:04:54
Pamela Rivet
Absolutely.
00:04:54
Katey
Yeah, I get that.
00:04:55
Pamela Rivet
So you're there. You're there. You're living in it.
00:04:58
Katey
I'm hoping this year is a little bit better than the last few years.
00:05:01
Pamela Rivet
Yeah. Right. Right.
00:05:04
Katey
Just in everything. I feel like the last few years
00:05:06
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:05:10
Katey
have been
Adapting to Life After Loss
00:05:10
Katey
just like an adjustment period, learning how to go about my days without Josh here, how to navigate decisions and situations and being a mom and just everything that comes with that when your world gets flipped upside down.
00:05:12
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:05:28
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:05:28
Katey
And, you know, going through grief, there's this numb period, you know, this, you're just tunnel vision, how to like go about each day.
00:05:39
Katey
And I feel like I'm now at that point to where I've kind of learned everything. So now it's like, now I'm tunnel vision for this year of, okay, I've done all of this.
00:05:49
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:05:51
Katey
I know how to process the feelings. I know how to navigate certain situations. So let's take that into this year and, and build off of it.
00:06:05
Pamela Rivet
Right. And I do think that too. I mean, I, I not totally think that God put it across our paths at crazy timing.
00:06:12
Katey
Oh, for sure.
00:06:16
Pamela Rivet
met Katie right before, you know, that happened. And I just feel like just watching you over the last couple of years, like Through all the struggle and through all the grief like to continuously inspire so many other people is just Beyond me because I mean most people would shut down I mean, and I'm sure I know you have your days and I'm not saying that every day is like oh I'm you know, miss inspirational over here, but I do know that
00:06:39
Katey
Oh, first turn.
Social Media and Sharing Journey
00:06:45
Pamela Rivet
you sharing that side of yourself and we're gonna tag katie's socials uh in the show notes because i mean she just lets she's real and she's honest and she has her hard days and you know you go through all of the grief and i do feel like like you've said before people don't talk about that people don't share that and i feel like just watching your journey over the last couple of years has been so inspiring to so many others because
00:07:05
Katey
No.
00:07:14
Pamela Rivet
You know, not, not everyone can relate to your situation, but we can relate to going through tough things and being able to see someone else going through something tough and still getting up every day.
00:07:19
Katey
Mm hmm.
00:07:25
Pamela Rivet
Like you said, putting your mental health and your fitness and your just overall health first. then being able to transcend to this year, cause I do, I truly feel this is your year.
00:07:35
Pamela Rivet
Like I just. Everything that that you have planned and we're gonna talk about that later today.
Recognition as Beyond the Cape Icon
00:07:41
Pamela Rivet
so kind of segueing into that Katie was chosen as one of our beyond the cape icons we choose these icons based off of our mission and vision with MBS and We call it the woman beyond the cape because outside of everything that we do whether we're a mama a wife a sister a daughter
00:08:04
Pamela Rivet
we are our own people. And so Katie's story has just been something that
00:08:07
Katey
Mm hmm.
00:08:11
Pamela Rivet
has inspired multiple people. I mean, anyone that you talk to, that she talks to follows. story has just been something remarkable. And so we wanted to honor you with this amazing opportunity. And so what does that feel for you to be the next Beyond the Cape icon and just kind of stepping into that world?
00:08:34
Katey
I don't know. To a certain extent, it feels unreal. and MBS is new in the sense of things and just getting started. But I, in my heart, I feel like it's this big, grand,
00:08:51
Katey
thing that i'm like oh my gosh they chose me like i'm i'm it me oh my goodness and so it it it's just it i don't even know it and i told y'all this when we had the call that y'all gave me the news it's just like this speechless overwhelming feeling like i'm so honored and
00:09:00
Pamela Rivet
Well yeah, of course!
00:09:19
Katey
And then to be a part of the podcast with that, it's like to share my story and to let people know, just like you said, we all go through tough times and it's no matter what you go through, it's gonna be okay. You may not see it in that exact moment and it may take some time, but it's gonna be okay. And like I said, putting yourself first and taking care of yourself and being your best self helps helps navigate through some of that.
00:09:53
Katey
And
Importance of Self-Care
00:09:53
Katey
so, to be a part of MBS, my best self, like, need I say more, you know?
00:09:54
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:10:02
Pamela Rivet
That's it.
00:10:03
Katey
I'm like, that's my motto right now is,
00:10:05
Pamela Rivet
Yeah. Right. It is.
00:10:08
Katey
is to be my best self.
00:10:10
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:10:11
Katey
And so I just, it's a blessing. um Us crossing paths have been a blessing that has led to so many amazing things.
00:10:21
Katey
And like, I'm just, I'm so honored and appreciative of you and Pam.
00:10:27
Pamela Rivet
Well, and are appreciative of you. Like I said, it's just been the way that things have just, we say, worked its way out. But really, it's been God's plan all along that I just feel like i even with Maddie and Chloe, our daughters, they're both around 13.
00:10:43
Pamela Rivet
And that's just the perfect age for us to also show them to be their best self. And so I just think it's perfect timing that, you know, we're able to share your story and to share all the things that that you're doing.
00:10:48
Katey
Yeah.
00:10:56
Pamela Rivet
And so part of being a beyond the cape icon is that Katie gets to choose the after the I am affirmations for the next ah pieces in the collection and the collection name.
00:11:08
Pamela Rivet
So we're going to kind of move into that a little bit because I definitely this is why I love that we're doing this with the podcast because on our website you'll be able to see the little snippet of the descriptions of everything but to hear why and to have you share why you chose these affirmations in the collection name is just gonna to add to it even more.
Inspiration and Personal Collection
00:11:29
Pamela Rivet
So kind of going into it, it's a two-piece collection and so I'll let you kind of go into what affirmations you chose and kind of why you chose those.
00:11:40
Katey
Okay, so for the collection itself, this one I struggled with, all of them I struggled with, and the previous collections, there's been three items and then the collection name.
00:11:52
Katey
So it was like, yeah, it's just one more affirmation, but I'm like, I don't know how Brandy and Gabe did it, how they picked that one more, because I was like, I have no idea what I'm gonna do.
00:11:57
Pamela Rivet
I mean it hurt.
00:12:03
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:12:03
Katey
But for the collection itself, and you've said it numerous of times, it is called I Am Inspiring.
00:12:08
Pamela Rivet
Mhm.
00:12:12
Katey
And it's kind of for that reason, like my journey and my vocalness about what this journey has been like, how I've gotten through the day-to-day situations, the grief, I learned that me sharing that, and not only to people who haven't lost a spouse, but to my widow community that I have just grown to love and those friendships I've built, the amount of just messages and the thank yous and
00:12:36
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:12:52
Katey
You've reminded me that I am capable. You've reminded me that it's going to be okay. You know, all of these kind heartfelt comments I've received from them on top of people who haven't lost a spouse, but have, you know, maybe lost a child or whatever, or who only lost extended relatives. People on the outside just looking in, staying,
00:13:20
Katey
You're such an inspiration. You're so strong. You're, which that's, I don't know. The strong word is like a love hate for me being through this journey.
00:13:32
Katey
But I, I don't know. It just kind of came to me where it was like, you know what? I am an inspiration. and And I'm not saying that in like a cocky way or anything, but
00:13:45
Pamela Rivet
I don't think so either.
00:13:47
Katey
People don't talk about it. People don't. It's one of those topics that kind of just gets brushed under the rug. Like going into this, I had no idea what it was gonna be like.
00:13:56
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:13:58
Katey
Like all you really hear about is, oh, you have a funeral?
00:14:02
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:14:04
Katey
Grief sucks.
00:14:06
Katey
time goes on, you know, there's there's no of the in between like the struggles and the things that come up that not everyone thinks about when they think of loss and grief.
00:14:07
Pamela Rivet
Right, right.
00:14:17
Pamela Rivet
Right. Right.
00:14:22
Katey
So that is the name for the collection. And it's one of those like when it just came to me, it came to me, but
00:14:29
Pamela Rivet
I know it's perfect. It really is like, I mean, we've said, like you said, we said it at the beginning multiple times.
00:14:34
Pamela Rivet
It's just that inspiration because, and I want to kind of connect it too, because even if you haven't lost someone, I feel like the way that you share the day to day is even for, I mean, people that go through depression or that are, you know, going through hard times within themselves.
00:14:51
Pamela Rivet
A lot of the things that you relate back to, They can relate it to so it's such like a ah ah deeper side that like people just don't share on social media, but we need to because if it's not talked about people are just suffering in silence or they can't find people that have the like minded mindset.
00:15:00
Katey
Yes.
00:15:11
Pamela Rivet
and no to, I'm getting up the next day and I'm going to, and you love that you share the hard days where you just, because you're very fashionable and I love it.
00:15:11
Katey
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:21
Pamela Rivet
So if you you want outfit ideas, go ah follow Katie. But on days where you just don't want to get dressed, you're very open with that. And you're like, nope, today's just one of those days. And so it's just that real authentic like vulnerability that we need to see more of in our world because not everything's picture perfect.
00:15:40
Pamela Rivet
And so the I Am Inspiring was just the perfect name.
00:15:45
Pamela Rivet
So I like to go into the pieces. I'm going to be quiet.
00:15:47
Katey
okay um The next one, I guess I will do the tank. For the tank, I chose I am faithful.
00:15:57
Katey
that one was an easy, it came to me immediately. Pam and Mandy and I had our call. they gave me the news that they chose me as an icon for this collection.
00:16:09
Katey
And you know, we had our chit chat and everything. And as soon as we got off the call, it was like a God thing. It was like, you have been faithful.
00:16:19
Katey
you know, look, look what that faithfulness is bringing to you. and, and then like this morning and I texted Mandy and Pam, I'm sitting down, getting ready, doing my makeup and, Oh, I see it now I'm going mind
00:16:35
Katey
Um, CC Winans, what's the name?
00:16:39
Pamela Rivet
Goodness. Goodness.
00:16:40
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:16:43
Katey
um,
00:16:44
Katey
Brain fog, it's a thing.
00:16:46
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:16:47
Katey
And not just with grief, but with so much stuff. But anyway, goodness of God comes on. And one of the repetitive verses is, all my life you have been faithful.
00:16:57
Pamela Rivet
Yeah. Oh, I would be in tears.
00:17:00
Katey
And every time I hear that song, it's so many times I have to be like, next, next.
00:17:02
Pamela Rivet
Like, in tears.
00:17:06
Katey
Because I'm like, this isn't a crying day.
00:17:07
Pamela Rivet
I I said today.
00:17:09
Katey
And I had just put my makeup on.
00:17:09
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:17:12
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:17:12
Katey
And I was so close to hitting the next button and I didn't. I just
Faith and Resilience
00:17:17
Katey
let it play, but I kept my composure because it just felt like a full circle moment of being faithful and just trusting in God to lead me down this journey and the opportunities he has brought to me just
00:17:20
Pamela Rivet
Yeah. you're like, no.
00:17:24
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:17:25
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:17:31
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:17:37
Katey
the people he has brought into my life and so many things. And I wholeheartedly thank God for that.
00:17:47
Katey
And I believe it is because I have been faithful.
00:17:48
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:17:51
Katey
I have trusted in him to guide me and lead me in in this journey.
00:17:57
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm. I had a personal
00:17:59
Katey
And then, yeah, and so then The next piece is the leggings. And for that one, I chose I am courageous.
00:18:11
Katey
This one was kind of a hard one because, you know, I wanted, as I said, I have a love-hate relationship with the word strong, but I have learned not to take offense to that when people are like, oh, you are so strong.
00:18:23
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm. So strong. Yeah.
00:18:26
Katey
And it's like, I'm not strong. Like I just have to get through this.
00:18:29
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:18:29
Katey
But in reality, like I am.
00:18:32
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:18:33
Katey
And anyone you talk to who has been through some trauma that hears that they're like, you know, that word is like almost a cringe, but like that was my first choice.
00:18:41
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:18:46
Katey
But obviously we already have our I am strong layings from Brandy's collection and which are my absolute favorite right now, but side note,
00:18:46
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
00:18:58
Katey
And so then I was like, okay, I feel like I need something else. And so then I had thought like of a couple other affirmations and I'm like, I just wasn't feeling it. And then courageous came to mind and I feel like courageous with all of those affirmations like in one, it wasn't just like this one
00:19:20
Katey
this one word, because courageous to me is being strong.
00:19:21
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:19:36
Katey
I've dealt with the battles. I've chosen to get up each and every day. whether I've chosen to get up and then move to the couch and just, yeah,
00:19:50
Katey
I've chosen to nourish my body.
00:19:53
Katey
I've chosen to go to the gym. You know, ah a lot of people are like, oh, okay, well, that's just your every day. But when you're in that mindset and that grief has just taken over of the, I can't, I'm not capable.
00:19:53
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:20:01
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:20:08
Katey
I'm not strong. I'm not this. It's like, no, I am courageous because I am capable. I am strong and I can do this and I will do this.
00:20:16
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:20:19
Katey
And so coming up with that one, you know, it took a little bit of thinking, but.
00:20:26
Pamela Rivet
No, I love that because I honestly think the same thing and that bible verse kept coming up Whenever you sent pam and I the af the affirmations That bible verse the the joshua.
00:20:38
Pamela Rivet
I think it's one nine where it's the strong and courageous I was like, this is literally katie's verse like and so for you to choose that word it's it is it's like all encompassing of everything you stand for because not only that but you're courageous to share your story because
00:20:53
Pamela Rivet
A lot of people would not. And like you said, you know, getting into those darker days, you have to be strong to get up and go to the gym. And I mean, I admire you every day that I see you out there because I'm the one that's like at home, like I'm struggling to i do anything. And here you are crushing it every single day. I just feel like all of those encompass and embody everything you stand for.
00:21:16
Pamela Rivet
And so to be able to share that and for other women, whenever they do put these clothes on to feel that, and you know, that's part of our mission is for when you step into these pieces that you tell yourself the affirmations, you know, you look at yourself and say, I am courageous.
00:21:29
Katey
Yeah, yeah.
00:21:32
Pamela Rivet
I am faithful. And I'm just so excited for you to get your pieces on and to be able to see it all come together.
00:21:43
Pamela Rivet
And that kind of goes more into your faith and just being faithful like you were saying. And I know that we've talked about this before, but is there anything that you do every day that kind of keeps you on track? I mean, know days have to come and go where they're just unbearable some days.
00:22:03
Katey
Yeah.
00:22:04
Pamela Rivet
And so, mean, obviously I know that you work out and things like that, but is there anything that you do to kind of set your, so your mindset back up to kind of keep yourself going every day?
00:22:13
Katey
Yes, so, you know, obviously, the gym is kind of like a non negotiable for me, in the most part, you know, there's some days where I'm just like,
00:22:24
Katey
I've got to rest, you
00:22:25
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
Building Relationship with God
00:22:25
Katey
know, like as bad as I want to go to the gym or sometimes I'm like, I'm not going today.
00:22:31
Katey
Like it's just, it's, I've got other stuff I need to do.
00:22:31
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:22:34
Katey
I gotta to run errands, whatever. But 80% of the time the gym is kind of my top five non-negotiable.
00:22:41
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:22:43
Katey
My number one is obviously like just my trust and my faith in God.
00:22:46
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:22:48
Katey
I,
00:22:50
Katey
I'm trying to think like how to, so I have developed developed such a strong relationship with God since Josh has passed away.
00:22:58
Pamela Rivet
-hmm.
00:22:59
Katey
and it's not even necessarily something that I didn't have before, but when something like this happens, you're like, I don't know what else to do, you know?
00:23:10
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:23:10
Katey
So I'm like, I'm giving it to God and I'm going to pray every day and
00:23:12
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:23:15
Katey
read my Bible and so on and so forth. But there came a point in this that I wasn't opening my Bible at all.
00:23:24
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:23:28
Katey
And the main reason for that was because it was like every time I opened it and I was doing whatever Bible study or just to read my Bible or whatever it may be,
00:23:38
Katey
You know, I have my notes all over the place and it was like everything I would see would bring me back to... told myself I wasn't gonna cry for this, but it would bring me back.
00:23:48
Pamela Rivet
I know. I'm not right.
00:23:49
Katey
It would bring me back to Josh being here.
00:23:54
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:23:55
Katey
And it just got to the point where it was like my relationship with God was bringing me happiness, but it was like every time I would open my Bible, it was bringing me sadness because it was just a different time in my life.
00:24:04
Pamela Rivet
Right. You were reminded.
00:24:08
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:24:08
Katey
And as great as it was to see those things, it also made me miss those things even more.
00:24:13
Pamela Rivet
Mm
00:24:14
Katey
seeing the different things we went through in our relationship and the the growth and all of the struggles, all of that, it was just like, okay, I can't do this anymore.
00:24:27
Katey
And so it just got to the point where I would pray every day, morning and night, throughout the day, whatever, you know, timing. um um But I wasn't, you know, I was going to church or watching church, you know, there's times where I'm like, I'm not going.
00:24:44
Katey
A lot of it had to do with because it's like every time I'd go to church, I felt like Pastor Tommy was just speaking to me.
00:24:51
Pamela Rivet
well yeah well we had those yeah we had those conversations and i feel like too it was probably a lot of the people in our community that would would see you and so that's kind of one of those things too because and i do feel that i mean we were going to the same church at the time and it was i mean the whole time i'm listening to it and i knew you were there and i was just like oh my goodness like i know that that just has to be
00:24:52
Katey
And I'm like, and I'm having to get up and leave.
00:25:03
Katey
Yeah.
00:25:19
Pamela Rivet
he was talking to you, by the way, like every time I'm like, Oh gosh, Katie. which was a good thing, but at the same time, I'm sure it was very overwhelming and just very much like heavy.
00:25:26
Katey
Yes.
00:25:28
Katey
It was.
00:25:31
Katey
Yes. And it got to the point where it was like, you know, on top of the not opening my Bible, it was like, I'm not going to church right now. Like I'm just not in a headspace to keep my composure.
00:25:39
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:25:43
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:25:43
Katey
And not that it's embarrassing, but it's kind of embarrassing to be sobbing and you have to get up and walk out and then poor Maddie's Maddie's there.
00:25:52
Pamela Rivet
Right. Especially if people, people, yeah if people don't know the situation, cause I mean, I wholeheartedly believe that too.
00:25:56
Katey
Right.
00:25:59
Pamela Rivet
I mean, that's with anything that happens in church, like even now that, you know, if I start crying, it's like, you're just like hiding.
00:26:05
Katey
I know, you're like...
00:26:06
Pamela Rivet
Like, let me have a moment. Let me have my moment. Like I'm going to be okay. But like people just don't know. And like you said with Maddie, she's probably just like, mom, like get it together.
00:26:15
Katey
I know. And then it's like, I get myself together and I come back and she's like, are you okay? Or she would follow me and like try to comfort me and be there.
00:26:21
Pamela Rivet
Oh no, she's such a sweetheart.
00:26:24
Katey
And I'm just like, Oh my gosh. So there became a point in time where church was kind of not happening either. I was watching at home because I'm like, if I have a meltdown, I'm at home.
00:26:35
Pamela Rivet
Yeah, right.
00:26:36
Katey
So it's okay.
00:26:38
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:26:38
Katey
Um, but so at the end of this past year, I was just like, I want to, I want to build that relationship with God again and deeper than what I have, you know, rather than just talking to him and, and letting him guide me. I'm like, I really want to get back into my Bible studies and things like that. So I ordered myself a new Bible.
00:27:11
Katey
and all the things to go with it, you know, the tabs and the notepads.
00:27:15
Pamela Rivet
Oh yeah, look, I got mine right here.
00:27:17
Pamela Rivet
It's all ready to go. Highlighters, you know, all the things.
00:27:21
Katey
yes. And so I got all of that and prepped it and got it ready. And so I was like, that way when January 1st hits, I can hit the ground
00:27:33
Katey
And so that's what I've done. And so this year that is something I have implemented back into my routine. I try to do it every morning just because I feel like what better way to start your day than to
00:27:48
Katey
have coffee and talk with God and read his word and study the Bible.
00:27:50
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:27:54
Katey
And it, again, it's one of those things just like going to church. It's whatever my study is for the morning that I'm doing, I'm like, I know you're speaking to me right now, but, so it is
00:28:04
Pamela Rivet
Like I did it. I did it. Yeah. That's the best ones though. I mean, that's the best that you're just like, okay, like I i hear you. I see it, you know, and yeah.
00:28:13
Katey
Yes, I know. And sometimes I'm like, give me a sign and then I open it up. I'm like, I wouldn't mean in that kind of sign. you know So, so far this year that has been a non-negotiable for me, you know, my number one thing, because I feel like I start my day with God. Everything else just kind of falls into place. The other thing, which to be completely honest, I've struggled with so far this year, you know, the holidays are hard.
00:28:41
Katey
with grief and, but it's such a busy time that it's just the getting through and the getting by, but it's like the hangover of the holidays that really hit.
00:28:51
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:28:56
Katey
And then it's like on top of that. So Josh's accident happened on March 3rd. And so it's like that holiday hangover, but it's also like, I know what's coming.
00:29:07
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:29:07
Katey
And it's this time of year between the holidays and March. It's just such a dreaded time for me. And so typically one of my other get through the day things is getting up and getting dressed and making myself feel good.
Coping Strategies for Difficult Days
00:29:25
Katey
Because like I said, I am a stay at home mom and you know, we live in middle of nowhere. So it's not like there's places for me to go when things for me to do when,
00:29:35
Katey
I don't like driving 20 or 40 minutes either direction to have to go do things.
00:29:40
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:29:41
Katey
Um, so a lot of the times I am home, and that can get hard. And so I find if I do this, then I'm okay.
00:29:51
Katey
You know, it, it gives me that boost of energy, that, that confidence and that, just that rush of I feel put together. I feel I'm gonna accomplish things today and so on and so forth. And so that's another thing. And then, let's see, my Bible, my time with God, the gym, getting ready. I mean, really, those are like my top three. And just,
00:30:22
Katey
On the hard days, another thing is just allowing myself to feel the emotions of it all.
00:30:32
Katey
Because for a long time, just like the topic of grief, I was just like, pushing it under the rug.
00:30:40
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:30:40
Katey
And like, I don't have time for this. I don't have the mental capacity to deal with this today. like it's overwhelming, I don't want to, and that never ended up well because it was just like all that overwhelming mental capacity, can't handle it, this, this, and this, that you just keep pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing.
00:30:58
Katey
It's eventually gonna come back to bite you in the ass. And then when you are least capable of dealing with it is when it's all gonna come out.
00:31:01
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:31:08
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:31:09
Katey
And I learned that after many times that, okay, Well, when you're feeling like this, deal with it in that moment because if not, it's gonna be the most inconvenient time where it's just all gonna hit you.
00:31:16
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:31:23
Katey
And then you're gonna be pissed off at yourself because you're gonna be like, why I did this to myself, you know, and it could have been prevented.
00:31:27
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:31:32
Katey
So I think those are kind of my must and and the things that that I do and then on the days where I don't get up and I don't get dressed and I'm allowing myself to feel I just I try and just take it easy, you know, and not overwhelm myself with the day to day tasks as hard as that is. But laying on the couch and reading a book or rotting and binge watching something or eating things that I'm gonna regret later, you know, like, it's okay to do that.
00:32:05
Pamela Rivet
No, right.
00:32:09
Katey
And, and I think that's something everyone of like, Oh, well, that's unhealthy. Or, you know, eating like crap isn't beneficial.
00:32:18
Katey
And no, it's not. But it's okay.
00:32:21
Pamela Rivet
No, right.
00:32:21
Katey
Like,
00:32:23
Pamela Rivet
And I feel like it goes with those expectations.
00:32:25
Pamela Rivet
Like, you can't expect to be on 10 every single day.
00:32:27
Katey
It's like nobody's perfect.
00:32:29
Pamela Rivet
Like, everybody's not out there. No.
00:32:31
Katey
Yes. And there's no perfect way to deal with anything, you know?
00:32:35
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:32:36
Katey
And it just, you do what you feel is best for you. And for me, sometimes it's eating a whole bag of Doritos or a frozen pizza, you know?
00:32:44
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:32:48
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:32:48
Katey
And that's something the mom guilt sets in sometimes where it's like, I'm not cooking dinner tonight.
00:32:54
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:32:55
Katey
I'm not cooking dinner tomorrow night. I'm not cooking dinner all week. And it's just like, Well, shit, I feel shitty because we ate out every night or we just may do with what was at home and I haven't given my kid a home cooked meal for a week, but she understands and honestly, she's like, oh, we get to eat out a a again tonight, okay.
00:33:03
Pamela Rivet
Yeah. Mm hmm.
00:33:18
Pamela Rivet
Well, as I say, we call it girl dinner over here because when Kenny was deployed, that was a hundred percent what we would do.
00:33:18
Katey
Yeah.
00:33:24
Pamela Rivet
I mean, there was just, just some days you're not, you're just not there.
00:33:28
Pamela Rivet
And you're, you know, we go back to that whole, I have 10% to give and dinner is just not one of those things that's going to make it, you know, like we'll survive.
00:33:29
Katey
Yeah.
00:33:38
Pamela Rivet
We can eat ramen noodles all week and still be alive.
00:33:41
Pamela Rivet
Like it's going to be okay.
00:33:42
Katey
I know. And it's just like, and I think the biggest thing for me, it's like, it's not even necessarily the cooking, it's the cleaning up afterwards.
00:33:44
Pamela Rivet
So.
00:33:50
Pamela Rivet
Yes. Yeah.
00:33:50
Katey
I'm like, my kitchen is clean. And having a clean kitchen brings me peace.
00:33:53
Pamela Rivet
Yeah. Exactly.
00:33:55
Katey
And so I'm like, I'm already unmotivated to cook. I know I'm going to be unmotivated to clean afterwards.
00:34:02
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:34:02
Katey
So we're just not doing it.
00:34:05
Pamela Rivet
Yeah. This is not, this is not happening.
00:34:07
Katey
Yeah.
00:34:08
Pamela Rivet
I agree. I do. And I do think, and I did, I'm kind of glad that you brought up Maddie too, because, Like I said, just kind of going into having a teenager and being able to kind of go through these things with her there and obviously having to, you know, take care of her emotions and the things that she's going through.
00:34:27
Pamela Rivet
So do you find that a lot of the things that you do, y'all kind of do together? Cause I do feel like you're very much like that inspiring, empowering mother that, you're an open book.
00:34:32
Katey
Oh, yeah Oh, yeah for sure like I mean she is My everything and my absolute best friend, you know, obviously I am mother first but we
00:34:39
Pamela Rivet
And so I'm assuming that's the same way with Maddie and just trying to work through that with her too.
00:34:52
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:34:55
Katey
do everything together and i am kind of an open book to a certain extent you know there's there's boundaries and things like that but i mean i at first i wasn't you know once josh passed away it was like have a smile on your face all the time because you want her to be happy but then i quickly learned she can see right through it she could see right through it and she would pick up on
00:35:01
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:35:20
Pamela Rivet
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:25
Katey
the littlest things and I'm like, you know what? Why why hide it? Show her that it's okay to have a bad day, to have a bad week.
00:35:30
Pamela Rivet
Right. Should we go on through it too? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:35:35
Katey
Show her it's okay to struggle because that's
00:35:37
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:35:38
Katey
Life is not sunshine and rainbows. There are trials and tribulations and if I can help her,
00:35:41
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:35:50
Katey
learn that at 13, then I feel like I am helping her out in the long run and setting her up for success, you know, as an
00:35:52
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:35:57
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:36:01
Katey
because, you know, growing up myself, I know my parents had their own struggles, but they hid a lot of it from us.
00:36:10
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:36:10
Katey
And so, and I know they did that to protect us, but then you go into adulthood and you're like, oh shit, you know, reality hits you in the face.
00:36:19
Pamela Rivet
Yeah, this is real. This is real life.
00:36:23
Katey
And you're like, dang, okay. And so if I can,
00:36:26
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:36:29
Katey
help prepare her for that now, then I feel like I'm doing what I should be doing as a mother. And you know, in regards to our day to day life, you know, she's in dance and it is very time consuming. But when she does have free time, like she does come with me to the gym. And, you know, back on taking care of yourself and being healthy and your mental health and things like that.
00:37:03
Katey
I started doing yoga and meditation again. And so just like doing that around her. So she sees like taking time for yourself is such a positive thing.
00:37:04
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:37:14
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:37:17
Pamela Rivet
Mm
00:37:18
Katey
And having her join in, we love to travel and we love eating out and trying new foods.
00:37:28
Katey
And I'm a total foodie and I'm rubbing off on her completely, which I love because a lot of kids nowadays are like mac and cheese and chicken nuggets, you know?
00:37:37
Pamela Rivet
Right, right.
00:37:38
Katey
And don't get me wrong, she loves a good mac and cheese and some chicken nuggets, but like this child loves oysters and steak and sushi.
00:37:45
Pamela Rivet
She's willing to try.
00:37:46
Pamela Rivet
That's good.
00:37:47
Katey
anything yes but it's it's we've learned that to a certain extent like we are all we have you know we live here middle of nowhere Louisiana and we don't have family right next door to us you know my parents and a few of my siblings live in Houston and then
00:37:47
Pamela Rivet
She's willing to explore.
00:38:10
Katey
the rest of my siblings and family live in Lafayette, which are an hour and a half, hour and 45 minutes away from here. So it really is her and
00:38:19
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:38:19
Katey
We have neighbors around and friends here who, if we needed anything, would step up in a heartbeat.
00:38:23
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:38:25
Katey
But in your day-to-day life, it is just us.
00:38:27
Pamela Rivet
Day to day, yeah. Mm hmm.
00:38:30
Katey
And so we depend on each other with everything.
00:38:35
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:38:36
Katey
And I just, I love it so much because I just know as she gets older and once she becomes an adult, I know I'm doing everything I can to prepare her and set her up for success and to be able to navigate life.
00:38:56
Katey
And I understand life changes every day and times change because back when we were younger,
00:38:59
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:39:04
Katey
It's not what it is today. You know, you have social media and technology and the internet and all the things.
00:39:06
Pamela Rivet
No.
00:39:10
Katey
But it's like, when we were younger, you had to go play outside. You had to go do this. You walked down the street to go see if your friends were home. And, you know, there wasn't this, hey, duh, duh, duh, duh.
00:39:24
Katey
So it's also learning to navigate this new age, this technology. I want social media, no.
00:39:33
Pamela Rivet
Yeah, no.
00:39:35
Pamela Rivet
Absolutely not.
00:39:35
Katey
We are not there yet. But all my friends, I don't care what all your friends have.
00:39:37
Pamela Rivet
Not until you're 40.
00:39:39
Katey
We are not.
00:39:41
Pamela Rivet
Yeah, we're going through the same thing. And I think I'm at the point now where they're going to have to be out of high school.
00:39:43
Katey
Yeah.
00:39:49
Katey
Yeah.
00:39:49
Pamela Rivet
I really feel like that's where I'm at.
00:39:51
Pamela Rivet
And I know that they're going to probably hate me for that, but they're just not ready.
00:39:54
Katey
They will also thank you one day, you know?
00:39:56
Pamela Rivet
they're just not ready developmentally to be able to handle all of that.
00:39:57
Katey
No. No.
00:40:00
Pamela Rivet
And so
Empowering Her Daughter
00:40:01
Pamela Rivet
I feel like once they go into college and you know, then you're, I mean, research, your brain is not developed to your five.
00:40:08
Katey
Oh yeah.
00:40:09
Pamela Rivet
So it's like, no, we're not dragging all that into into it.
00:40:11
Katey
Yeah.
00:40:13
Pamela Rivet
So I'm 100% with you, like, but
00:40:14
Katey
Yeah. It's a no go.
00:40:19
Pamela Rivet
Yes.
00:40:21
Pamela Rivet
Well, yes, navigating teenagers will be a new thing for us and definitely kind of helping them through everything. But I do feel like both of us kind of have that same mindset where Putting yourself first whether it is for a little bit of you know your day or anything like that That's gonna set the tone for how they they treat themselves how they feel about themselves and being able to know that It's worth it like they're worth it.
00:40:41
Katey
Yeah.
00:40:47
Pamela Rivet
They're you know, they're worthy and capable of so much more and oh oh I do think that everything that you're doing is is setting her up for success and she's already a beautiful amazing girl, so
00:40:50
Katey
Yeah.
00:41:01
Pamela Rivet
I'm excited to kind of see how all that goes with y'all, but kind of getting into a piece of advice that you want to kind of leave with our listeners today, just with, you know, we have the Bible verse attached to everything with MBS and it's the strength and dignity, Proverbs verse. And I just feel like that one is so fitting for you because you do, you carry your strength, your dignity, you're constantly clothed in that, you know, just like the Bible verse says. So what's something that you could leave today as like a little piece of advice for our followers and just something that they can take with them?
00:41:41
Katey
I think the one thing and it's something I preach often for those who do follow me on social media, it's have those tough discussions with your spouse and if you're not married or you don't have a spouse, have the discussions with the your closest family member of what if situations because you know I mentioned a little bit earlier it's like Josh and I always prepared for the what ifs and and but it was more so the financials of the what ifs you know to make sure Maddie and I would be taken care of or you know just savings and life insurance and all the things like that but
00:42:30
Katey
we had just moved here and been here only nine months when he passed away. And, you know, we had talked about, okay, when we pass away, this is what we want.
00:42:35
Pamela Rivet
Mm-hmm.
00:42:39
Katey
We want to be buried next to each other and things like that. And then he passes away and we're in this new place. And I'm like, well, I don't want to bury him here because what if I don't stay?
00:42:50
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:42:50
Katey
But I didn't want to bury him back in Houston because what if I do stay? And it was an internal struggle and, and, Sometimes something I still struggle with like did I make the right decision and you know, ultimately I did decide to have him pre-made it so that way Bring him with me wherever I go, you know and later on I can
00:43:09
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:43:13
Katey
him in a cemetery that's always an option you know but right now like at that point it was like oh shoot like we didn't talk about this and so it's just having those tough discussions and not even necessarily about death but you never know what's gonna happen
00:43:24
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:43:33
Katey
I hate the fact of just thinking of how many other people there are out there that had to make those decisions. And just knowing that almost two years in, it's still something I struggle with that I often think of and often find myself like, are you mad at me?
00:43:54
Pamela Rivet
I feel like crying in my...
00:43:54
Katey
Did I make the right decision? I know, I'm sorry if that's not what you wanted.
00:44:00
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:44:01
Katey
And so many other things in life since he's passed that I've learned I've had to navigate and didn't realize how much I depended on him for a lot of those decisions of just like having his confirmation.
00:44:16
Pamela Rivet
Right. Oh, for sure.
00:44:20
Katey
And I know no matter what, he's proud of me and he's,
00:44:24
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:44:25
Katey
happy for the most part of a lot of the decisions I've made. I'm sure sometimes he's like, Katie, really? That's the choice you made. But I just, I think of like his little banter and the comments he would make and it, but it just brings me joy.
00:44:36
Pamela Rivet
Oh, yeah.
00:44:39
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:44:40
Katey
So anyway, it would just be have those tough discussions, have those unwanted discussions, have the nitty gritty
00:44:45
Pamela Rivet
Mhm.
00:44:50
Katey
And like to add to that, get life insurance, even if it's ah enough to cover the funeral. And the younger you are, the cheaper it is. Do it, you know, and especially if you have a spouse and kids, you know, like it's just, it is hard to navigate financially. And at first I was like, Oh my God, what am I going to do? You know, it, it like,
00:45:18
Katey
I'm going to have to get a job and do this and do that. And I knew we had life insurance. I knew all these things and the things we prepared for and what if, but when you're in that moment, it's just like this immediate stress of how am I going to survive this financially on top of everything else?
00:45:35
Pamela Rivet
on top of everything else, right on top of grieving, trying to, you know, work schedule and do all the things that they asked you at that time, like, that's just a lot.
00:45:38
Katey
Yes.
00:45:43
Katey
Yes.
00:45:46
Pamela Rivet
And it's super heavy. And I can only imagine having to navigate that. And like you said, even just going through the what ifs with anything, like, I feel like that can go, like you said, not even towards death, just in general, what are we going to, how are we going to navigate any of these hard things?
00:46:02
Katey
Yes. Yeah. And I feel like a lot of discussions are always like, we'll talk We'll deal with it tomorrow.
00:46:09
Katey
It's that we're gonna put it off and put it off and put it off. And the next thing you know, it's too late, you know? And in all different kinds of topics, you know, it's make time for it.
00:46:20
Katey
If you're laying in bed at night, instead of scrolling on your phone or watching TV, turn it off. and have that discussion together. And even even if it's surface level, like just bring it up and talk about it and, or bring it up and be like, okay, that's a good point.
00:46:39
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:46:39
Katey
Let's give some time to really think about this and let's touch base again in tomorrow night or at the end of the week.
00:46:46
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:46:47
Katey
You know, it's just, I really feel like,
00:46:51
Katey
That's something i i I wish we would have done was every scenario. And it's not always, you don't always think of every scenario, but I feel like the more you talk about it, the more you think of other things to add on to said topic.
00:47:00
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:47:09
Katey
and that kind of brings me to, you know, and I had told you in Pam, I'm hoping, so Josh's birthday is August 17th and mine's August 18th. which is another crappy month for me, but I'm hoping by that point I have been working on a kind of how to get through and prepare for loss.
Tough Discussions and Life's Uncertainties
00:47:36
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:47:39
Katey
And those questions and those tough questions to talk about with each other. As I've gone through this, not all the questions that Josh and I talk about, but I wish we did, you know, because I've done my research and a lot of those
00:47:50
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:48:00
Katey
is almost all financials, which is great.
00:48:02
Pamela Rivet
Yes.
00:48:03
Katey
And don't get me wrong.
00:48:04
Katey
Like, I mean, that's something that should also be done, but it's also the day to day life stuff, you know, and, and how would you recommend I handle this situation or, you know, just,
00:48:22
Katey
have this discussion about this topic, have this discussion about this topic. So it's in the works, but it's something I'm very passionate about and something I preach often to my followers that have those tough discussions. And like I said, you don't always think of the topic. So I'm doing the work for y'all.
00:48:41
Pamela Rivet
I love that though. I think that, and that was, you know, kind of segueing into what's next for you, because I honestly think creating a guide like that, that kind of goes off of experiences that you've had, things that have come up, because like you said, not everything's out there.
00:48:57
Pamela Rivet
Like that's not out there. The, the like,
00:48:59
Katey
Yeah.
00:49:00
Pamela Rivet
random things that might pop up that you don't think about it in your everyday life because it is a lot of its financial I mean um Kind of going back to like Kenny being in the army we had to fill out stuff But it's all financial like if something happens to him like this is what and so kind of watching you through your journey it has opened my eyes to there are a lot of things we need to discuss because
00:49:14
Katey
Yeah.
00:49:24
Pamela Rivet
You just you're not gonna think about it unless it happens and so I love that you are creating something for people to have for the what-ifs and I'm super excited for that and I love that you're kind of doing it around that time.
00:49:27
Katey
Yeah. Mm hmm.
00:49:37
Pamela Rivet
I think that will bring joy to that season and definitely
00:49:37
Katey
Yeah. I know. And that's kind of what I told myself was like, you know, the holidays and March, because he passed away in March and our anniversaries in March. And then August is our birthdays. And like,
00:49:52
Katey
those kind of three seasons in my life are struggles for me.
00:49:57
Katey
And so that was exactly it of why I chose those around that time was because I want it to be meaningful, but I also want something to give me joy in a hard time and something that I'm like, I did that.
00:49:58
Pamela Rivet
Yeah.
00:50:17
Katey
I'm proud of that I did this because of us and just to honor Josh. And, you know, it's it was definitely kind of my my it's my motivation of that timeline.
00:50:32
Pamela Rivet
Right. I love that. Well, is there anything else that you're working on this year or is that like the big thing or anything else that you want to kind of leave us with today?
00:50:42
Katey
So that's kind of like my main focus. Another thing that I also had mentioned with you and Pam is so I previously had a podcast with a fellow widow called widowed by 30. And
Podcast Revival and Future Insights
00:50:58
Katey
it is something I am definitely thinking of picking back up. And now that I have gotten some time under my belt of, you know, what this journey has been like. And, you know, I journal quite often or not necessarily write down journal, but like, I have note files in my phone, ah never ending of just like thoughts and things and how I've processed and so on and so forth.
00:51:28
Katey
that I'm just like, I haven't shared it on social media or I've very much talked about it like surface level. Because I feel like on social, you can only go so in depth with it.
00:51:39
Pamela Rivet
Right. So deep.
00:51:41
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:51:42
Katey
So I'm really, really, really praying about it right now.
00:51:48
Katey
But I do think it is something I want to get back into. um I feel like there's just so much information that's not out there that needs to be given. And I feel selfish keeping it to myself. And so I think me starting up a podcast again and probably solo is definitely in the works for me. I still got to kind of line out some things and make a few more decisions about it.
00:52:19
Katey
It will, I will keep you all posted on that. And then, you know, y'all can let MBS, MBS's followers know. And if that's something they're interested in, they can check it out.
00:52:29
Pamela Rivet
absolutely And I am going to tag the The podcast to our show notes too because I do feel like even the past episodes that y'all did together That they're so beneficial just to hear the different perspectives, but I definitely
00:52:38
Katey
Yes. Yes. Yeah. And that was something when we went, you know, we decided to part ways and in the podcasts for me, it was like, well, everything we discussed and recorded, like we're keeping it, you know, we don't want to take that away from people.
00:52:57
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:52:58
Katey
So it is still on.
00:52:59
Pamela Rivet
Right.
00:53:01
Katey
Spotify, YouTube, and Apple podcasts. And then we have kind of little snippets and stuff on our Instagram and I think our Facebook also.
00:53:14
Pamela Rivet
to widowed by 30. That's a little plug there. But I definitely, something else came up kind of going back to just everything that you've got going on and moving forward.
00:53:25
Pamela Rivet
I was listening to a video earlier. I don't even know where it came from. And it was talking about, a verse in the Bible is talking about like how the silver goes into the fire.
00:53:38
Katey
Mhm.
00:53:38
Pamela Rivet
So like whenever they heat up silver in a fire, they have to watch it. And they keep their eyes off of it because if they leave it in the fire too long, then it damages it.
00:53:50
Katey
Yeah.
00:53:50
Pamela Rivet
And just the analogy plays so much into your story because what happens is I think the question was, well, how do you know whenever the silver's ready?
00:54:00
Pamela Rivet
And it's because you can see your image in it. And to me, that was just like everything that you have been through, you've been in the fire. And so now it's like, you're ready.
00:54:09
Katey
Mm hmm.
00:54:11
Pamela Rivet
Like, that's why I said, I feel like this is your year because the image of God is in you. Like that, that part where you're inspiring, you're been on your faith journey, you're moving forward.
00:54:23
Pamela Rivet
And I feel like he has just continuously prepared you for all the things that you have. going on this year and so we're gonna continue to follow your journey obviously with being the beyond the cape icon we have a photo shoot coming up that we're going to have you in and have all your information on our website and obviously once the collections launched we're gonna have all that tagged in also but definitely If you're not following Katie, go follow her. She is, uh, everything and very consistent on social media. She's like my, my daily go-to whenever I go to look at it, what's, what's she doing today? But, so thank you so much. And I just appreciate you being on the podcast today and ah being able to share your story and being able to share why you chose the affirmations and the collection name and everything like that.
00:55:11
Katey
Yeah, and again, I love you and Pam so much. And I appreciate y'all in this opportunity and opportunities in the future.
00:55:21
Katey
And I am so excited to see where this goes for MBS.
00:55:28
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:55:29
Katey
I know this great things, you know, it's not just
00:55:30
Pamela Rivet
Mm hmm.
00:55:35
Katey
Y'all aren't just other people out there like, oh, I wanna start a small business.
00:55:39
Katey
Y'all have made this faith centered. Y'all have made it more than that. Y'all are thinking of the customers and just, I don't
00:55:55
Katey
Every time I try and talk about it, I'm literally speechless. It just brings my heart so much joy I feel like it's just this amazing and it's gonna go places and I'm just so overjoyed that I get to be a part of it and to share the pieces and own all the pieces.
00:56:20
Pamela Rivet
She definitely rocks them.
00:56:20
Katey
In every color, I am committed, y'all.
00:56:22
Pamela Rivet
Yes.
00:56:24
Pamela Rivet
Yes.
00:56:24
Katey
They are just amazing.
00:56:27
Katey
So I'm super happy for y'all and thankful for this opportunity.
00:56:28
Pamela Rivet
Thank you.
00:56:33
Pamela Rivet
And we love to have you on this journey with us. wouldn't want it any other way. So we appreciate you so much.
00:56:39
Katey
Well, thank you.
00:56:40
Pamela Rivet
To kind of wrap things up, we always kind of ends with little saying. So you are strong, you are capable, and you are worthy. We love you, and we're endlessly rooting for you.
00:56:51
Pamela Rivet
So make sure to leave a review if you haven't yet. Tell us any topics you want to hear, and be on the lookout for more episodes to come. Thank you all.
00:57:01
Katey
Bye!