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Tumblereads 24: Reading Old Books
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AKA culture shifts and reader preference shifts and how they play together.
Full show notes at smutreport.com/podcast
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Transcript
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Na na na na smut report!
Introduction and Experimentation with Style
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Well hello and welcome to the Tumble Reads podcast with your favorite smut reporters. I am your fearless leader Ingrid and I'm here with... Erin.
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And Holly. That's right. I don't know if I like this new introduction thing we've got on. I'm trying to not sound silly, Erin. I'm growing as a person and a podcaster. just i think It was just an experiment I did. You guys didn't have to follow my lead. we can't help that I'm a trendsetter.
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are a trendsetter. You are. You you are the glue that holds us all together. Anyway, i i get to talk. I get to bring up whatever I want because that's the rule. And then they have to talk about it with me. So
Impact of Revisiting Older Media
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that's what we're gonna do today. yeah And what I wanted to talk about, yes, was ah I have had multiple instances the past couple weeks of reading or watching older stuff.
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And i had some feelings about it. And i really wanted to talk about it with Erin and Holly. So the first one, I reviewed it on the on the blog for um one of the super Wendy librarian interviews.
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monthly you know what i'm talking about say it again the tbr challenge for people who do not know what she's talking about it's super don't know how you couldn't get that from what said but okay just kidding it was nonsense super wendy who blogs at misadventures of super librarian hosts it she's been hosting it for many years i think this is our fifth year do How is that possible?
Disturbing Content in 'Warrior Song'
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a long time i like i don't even know but it's fun every month there's a theme and you try to read a book that you already own and for some reason my tbr has not
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gotten any smaller you i pre challenge it just gets bigger straight it does But anyway, so um i read a book by Catherine Coulter that I got from Erin from A Little Free Library. What was it? Which one was that one, Erin?
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What's it called? Warrior Song? Warrior warriors Song Catherine Coulter. So you can read the review, but in a nutshell, I went into it with my sweet, sweet, naive brain thinking, surely this won't happen. Surely this can't happen. No, they wouldn't do this to me. And all of it happened. It was...
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terrible. I was having a nice cup of hot tea on my patio. It was a lovely afternoon. i was thinking to myself, how wonderful to read an old romance novel on my patio in January of all the luck. And then there had to be underage rape on page. So, um, super growth that was not immediate book close. And I usually think of myself, I have a very little issue putting on my reader goggles and separating myself out and, you know, well, who would like this? And, you know, no one, no one would like that anyway.
Revisiting 'Pride and Prejudice' Over Time
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Um,
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Then I happened to rewatch Pride and Prejudice, opposite end of the spectrum. And all of a sudden, of course, the Colin Firth one, let's be real here. And um oh my gosh, watching that with forty middle-aged eyes, completely different experience. I got so much more out of it.
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I want to read the book again. i I'm so excited. It was wind beneath my reader wings. I loved it. It was so much fun. So I wanted to talk about rereading older books and reading What it's like now to read older content, right, with the new goggles that we have on from age and experience and just growth culturally and individually. Social changes. yeah Yes. I just want to talk about it.
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Tell me what you've read that rocked your socks or horrified you. That's what want to know. So before I talk about what I've read that, because I have, I have a couple thoughts about the, that is funny Pride and Prejudice story. So like, we all are Colin Firth, Pride and Prejudice people, yeah right? Because of how old we are. Yes. Right? are old. Because the Kiara Knightley came out when we were in top college. Full grown. Or like maybe like high school. No, I don't think it was high school.
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It was definitely. were full grown adults. If it was high school, Holly, we would have gone to it in the theater. Yeah. We did not do that. We didn't see it together in the theater? know what? I can solve this problem. Ingrid should look it up. All right. i'm pretty sure we didn't. But it it was it was definitely out when I was in college. Right. Because i watched it during my one of my English classes all right are you ready yeah I don't know if I am 2005 oh yeah so college so college yeah or high school if you're me yeah but um you know but Ingrid my next door neighbor uh is she's
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maybe four years younger than i am. And she came up on the Keira Knightley one. um that and she has younger sisters. So it's like she and her younger sisters would watch it together a lot. Mm-hmm. um and she's never seen the colin firth one but like is obsessed with the kira knightley one i told her the last time we hung out i told her she had to watch it and she's like okay i'll put it on my list um and now you know but it's been 20 years so it's time for a new one so like netflix is coming out with the new pride and prejudice short front door i did see that yeah i i haven't what i'll i'll see if i can find a trailer that i feel crotchety about that I know. very crotchety about that. So I haven't watched a trailer or anything. I just know that it's happening.
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um So we'll see what Netflix does and if it's going to be just a movie or if it's going to be a miniseries. i don't know. Netflix likes the miniseries. They They do. Maybe. um But anyway.
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But Pride and Prejudice is delightful. It's so delightful. And then, and you know, and there's also older ones. So probably when the Colin Firth one came out, there were people who were like, mer I like the one from the 70s. I just wish they do these things on the stage like it was meant for. yeah um Yeah.
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I don't know. i I don't know if I've seen an old Pride and Prejudice, but I'm ah but i'm thinking like Little Women has does the same thing, right? Yeah, where it's like, it's like, I watched, like, I know you guys are Pride and Prejudice, but like my sister and I would watch Little Women together. But the Winona Ryder version, right? Yeah. And now there's the, like the new one with whatever, Saoirse Ronan, I think. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, but there's the old one with like Katherine Hepburn in it.
Outdated Norms in Older Romance Books
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That's right.
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think Elizabeth Taylor's in that one too. That's wild. There's one with Elizabeth Taylor in it as Amy, which is ah like, perfect casting obviously yeah um anyway anyway that's a whole tangent but like it's funny that like there are these old old pieces that you have to that they like let's keep recycling it every 20 years each generation needs their own but some things can't be recycled this is what i wanted to talk about because because i'm reading this catherine coulter book and i remember reading catherine coulter yeah we read in the day i read catherine coulter in high school that's why i picked it up out of the little free library And for the record, I did not read this before sending it to Agrid. I was also like no i was just like, I got a bag of stuff. Our mom was going between spaces. was like, I'll just throw this in here with a couple other books because I'm not going to get to them and maybe she'll have fun with it.
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No, it wasn't fun at all. I i felt very uncomfortable. um But it's one of those things where, I mean, in the book, what I found surprising was that it says in there, well, you're 18 now. You should have been married years ago.
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Right. Well, technically, OK, it's an it's takes place in medieval times or whatever, you know, it's old. So, yeah, that's technically OK. Yes, that's accurate.
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Is it still really, really weird to read about their adolescent bodies in these scenes? Yeah, I don't think I can do that. Like I did it bother me when I was that age.
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No, I was totally fine with it. Yeah. not the Probably not the rape. I don't think I would have been okay with that. Probably the rape. Yeah. The struggles that I've been having with the difference between now and young and dumb is like, oh my God, I'm not ready for my children to be teenagers. Sorry. what i want what I specifically am interested in, because one of the things I was thinking about specific dynamics that I don't think I can talk handle anymore. Mm-hmm. And one of them that is so obvious to me is like purity culture, good girls say no.
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Right. It's a huge shift. Like, yeah, it's a huge shift. And it's so it slap you in your face. Obvious when you read those older books, you don't think about it as much now because we talk so much about consent. There's an undercurrent of consent, even if it's not overt, you know. um Shoot, there's even people who, you know, they look for consent, like consensual non-consent or whatever. There's there's it's a dynamic people look for. Right. And back then, no, good girls say no. Girls say no.
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And it was really – mean, the idea that – yeah, it's very difficult for me to read those. It's very difficult for me to read the young girls and the older dudes, and it's very difficult for me to read. because they're always, like, teenagers – like, maybe they're 18, but – They're like 17 and 35. 35-year-old guys frequently, right? Yeah. Although, so I remember very distinctly when Erin gave me These Old Shades, which is by Georgia and Hair. going to say that is – I can't let that one go. Right? And Erin gave it to me, and it's like 16-35 age gap. Yeah.
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And he like calls her like child. Enfant. Enfant. Well, child in French, the whole book. And I read it when I was in my early 20s, probably mid twenty s Erin gave it to me and I was just like, oh, yuck. I don't like this. But see, I wonder if I read it now, if I could be like, okay, I see what she's doing. And like, she's playing with it in this way. And like, yes, this is gross, but actually, at least they're acknowledging that, yeah that age gap dynamic. which The Duke does have some feelings about it. Right. Which then a lot of these like 90s and early 2000s Dukes were not acknowledging this age gap dynamic.
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um Or worse, overtly exploiting it with no consequence. Like that's, to me, I don't seem, and this is where I was wondering where your lines in the sand are, because for me, there are sometimes i can handle it because I'm like, it's it's historically appropriate and handled, the character you know, the characters aren't gross about it, you know? Okay, I can usually tolerate it-ish then. Or if it's, you know, from the 90s, and again, it's handled in a way where, you It's not exploitative. Like it doesn't feel icky. I don't get the ick from it. But then it's like, well, it's this is again, where's that line? Like, how how do we handle this? And um yeah, so for me, it's just. Yeah. OK, so I do have a have a very recent.
Critique of Coercive Dynamics in Romance
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experience with this also that's a little different from Ingrid's um so i reread Benedict Bridgerton the Benedict Bridgerton book from the Bridgerton series an offer from a gentleman because I was what you know my husband and I were watching it and I was like oh i I mean I don't remember this and consensus is widely that like book Bridgerton is the worst and it's the worst book um and but I was not prepared for how awful it the dynamic actually is in the book which they i've only watched the uh at the time of recording i have not watched the whole show yet so i don't know how they're gonna handle kind of some of the fallout but they change the order of events significantly between the book and the show to make it uh less gross and coercive
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Oh, good. Right? But was... But even still, the whole situation is slightly coercive. The whole situation is coercive. Even in the show, there's still some stuff. Right. So for people who are interested in romances but don't watch Bridgerton and want a little update, basically what happens in this season of Bridgerton, which is about Benedict, is he...
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Meets his dream girl at a ball and it's a Cinderella thing, but then he can't find her again. She's wearing a mask. and then he rescues this maid from an unfortunate situation with an employer and helps her get a job in his mother's home as a lady's maid for his sisters.
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and in in the show and ah and of course they are the same person obviously naturally he does not know this he does not recognize her and he and they're like kind of like dancing around each other and he kind of likes her and then he's like be my mistress who basically and she doesn't want to be a mistress because she's an illegitimate daughter of a lord and so she has all this baggage about like being protected and also because of generic verisimilitude you can't be a mistress can't be a mistress it's only true love if youre wife even if like socially it would make sense to be a mistress okay but in the book in the book he asks her to be his mistress before he gets her a job with his mom they're like at
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a cottage in the countryside and he's like recovering from an illness and he's like, be my mistress. And she's like, no, thanks. I'm just going to go get a job. And he's like, uh, well, if you won't be my mistress, you have to come with me to London to come work for my mom. And she's like, what? No. And he's like, actually, um and if you don't, I'm going to report you to the local magistrate for theft and then suggest that the magistrate release you into my care. um Because, you know, I'm the local lord and I can do that. And so then you can just come to London with me, whether you like it or not. And a yes, so he and she's just like, ah okay, so basically he blackmails her. into working for his mother and then is a sex pest.
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Gross. Yeah. And it's so gross. And so they got, they get rid of all this timeline where he's already gotten her the job when he asks her for the, for, asks her to be his mistress. And there you Yeah, like it's still cringe, but it's less cringe than that. Yeah, so it's still cringe, but less cringe. And honestly, I reread the Colin book when season three came out and was also like, ooh, like this dynamic between them is not... None of them, because Daphne and her Duke, I mean, like all of them are yeah not great.
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Yeah, so I'm like, ooh, like these, like Julia Quinn books were ones that I feel like we all read and were like... We all liked were fairly popular and had decent staying power, obviously, since got optioned. I mean, it wasn't Baratrice Small. I mean, Julie Quinn was pretty mild. From what I remember, I wouldn't think of her as being one of the ones that was really edgy or seat pushing the boundaries. Well, that's the thing. It was just like, and Benedict has a little bit of growth where at the end of the book, he's like, yeah, I shouldn't have coerced you like that. That wasn't cool of me. And it's like, well, I'm glad you had that growth moment.
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But yikes. Yikes. Yeah, I think, well, there's, especially in something that's 20 years old or more, as in Ingrid's case, we're looking at like these really old books where significant social changes happen. And also, you know, writing goes through phases where yeah where you're developing the generic verisimilitude that then future offers author bo ah offers future authors are going to build on themselves and change and play with and shift. So if we're looking at stuff that was published in the early aughts, we tend to find these... I think we should have a conversation about text shorthands. But stuff that's just like, oh, yes, this is something that happens to, like, keep things going. And it happens frequently. It happens frequently enough in romance books that it's not a surprise. It's something that we simply accept until we don't anymore.
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Right. And, you know, even in something like The Bride, which has great staying power. I was just thinking about that. It still has.
Analyzing 'The Bride' and Its Appeal
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i mean, if you think about it, like. She has to get married. She doesn't have a choice. he just like carts her off and is like deal with it. and She's like well I guess I gotta deal with it. And I don't like it but I'm fine. well and then There's an evil other woman. The bad guy has you know mental health like there are other things happening that were also common that are also socially unacceptable you know that make it harder to read these books but at the same time like there's the relationship in their bride is so oh it's so good interesting and fun with their back and forth and their very strong personalities that like that one has pretty good staying power and honestly I think uh what's the letter the loretta chase that we're always oh the lord of scoundrels thank you that one also i think had some interesting stuff going on with the interpersonal dynamics that's like yeah this isn't great but like the situation isn't great don't know that it would get published now
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but but with the way that you know publishing the bride it's it's yeah exciting and not totally i think the problem is ah just to conclude my thought i guess is and this is ah an issue that i have frequently is like red flag situations on stuff that's written as green flag like i don't think that the bride characters are written as a hundred percent green flag people you know what i mean and so they're tangling with each other and stuff is not as problematic to greed is that as well and same with like lord of scoundrels like it's not green flag behavior we know it's not green green flag behavior it's not presented as green flag behavior so the red flags that are thrown up are less distressing is that well yeah right and i think if you to use that term i think that's part of the problem with the benedict book because it's trying to like even though he does it's like oh he made an oopsie
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Yeah, which is you just code which is a little bit different. them yeah Like, this is, like, to me, it reads a serious red flag behavior, but I think at the time, it was meant to be an oopsie by a genuinely good person.
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for You're meant to believe that, yeah. Well, and that's what what i was going to say about The Bride is that I think one of the interesting things, when I was rereading it for the, I don't know how many the time, the other, last winter, um i what I picked on that was interesting is that the first big, like,
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like, current like, moment in the bride where it's like, well, I don't think they'd write that now is when it's their wedding night. And he's like, they're in the woods. And she's like, well, you can't, you can't do that now. And he's like, yeah, no, we're gonna, we're gonna have to do this now. And she's like, but I don't want to. And he's like, we're gonna have to do that now. And it's one of those things where, like, you could not have that.
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It just couldn't happen. You just wouldn't see it. But it's one of those things where it's the first time they're really the whole book, the whole plot is formulated on him being him being kind of him being the. how do you put it he's kind of the hard ass he's the one who's like this is what's going to happen and you're going to like it and then she's she's constantly thwarting him and and like throwing him for a loop that's the whole dynamic that's the first time it happens because he's like this is going to happen and i promise i'm gonna take care of you going to make you really happy but you're going to be the wife i want you to be and in the morning she's like
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She thinks it through. She's decided she's, you know, she's going to make the best of this. And she strides forward with her own agenda. And he's just like, what the hell just happened? And it's it's an important part of the book, right? So like, yes, you couldn't have that now. But the way that it's executed in the book, it's important contextually. It's like ah the foundation upon which the rest of the book of their relationship runs. So this is one of the things that this is why I think it's such an interesting conversation, because One, it's subjective. We all have different triggers, different things bother us, right, as readers.
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Two, though, the idea of just chucking them all out because there are these, you know, unsavory and antiquated, outdated, interpersonal exchanges or whatever, you know, that's not obviously not the answer either, you know. So it's just kind of, it's, again, I just find it interesting to figure out where other people's boundaries are on different things. so like,
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Well, and that's that's the problem. I mean, so i love collecting old books.
Collecting Old Romance Novels
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Oh, yeah. Because they're so beautiful. And I have all of these like oh old bodice rippers. And sometimes I'll pick one up and try to read it And sometimes I'll read 50 pages. I'm like, oh, this isn't for me. And sometimes I'll read it. I'm like, this book is a delight. Like, I'm like, this book is so like has some huge problems, but I'm having so much fun. And you can't tell in advance what you're going to get if you're, you know, if you're going to be like, if it's, and it probably depends on the reader too.
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Like I remember reading Stardust Dreams by Marilyn Campbell, which i like I picked up solely because of the cover. It's like a shirtless guy with flowing hair and an eye patch and like a girl in a negligee.
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being like ah and it's a space book and like it's ridiculous and it I thought it was going to be awful and it's so fun in a lot of ways and the sex the way their sexual relationship is portrayed is so awesome and it's super sex positive and the heroine has a bionic arm and is a total badass and you don't get any of that from the cover that's amazing right ah and I thought it was gonna be awful um but You know, but then there's like the book with the pig on the cover and which I also like, there's just like, they're having a picnic and there's like a pig on the side and the step back. And like, why is there a pig? I don't know, but I have to have this book. There's a pig. um That book I read 50 pages. i'm like, nope.
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Can't do it. Can't do it. So you you know, it's impossible to tell. It is impossible to tell unless you listen to a lot of people talk about stuff. But even then people yeah but like these highlight different things. Right. And these books from, you know, like the 80s and early 90s, like you, we only people only remember five books, you know, like the best ones. Yeah. Yeah. Not that. ah when i When I Googled, when I finally caved, because I had this, it was like a growing sense of horror when I was reading the Warriors songbook. Because it was one of those things where I was like, no, no, no, no. no no no no no no no no no no no And it got to a point where I stopped and I was like, it literally was.
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the moment of contact. And I was like, I can't do this. And I Googled it. And it was one of those things where I i was like, maybe I should Google all older books before I read them so I can avoid these moments of horror and and dismay. But then it it was like, no, I just, i don't I don't want to do that. And I think that, you know, it was a good experience for me as a reviewer to sit there and, because I almost never DNF. I mean, I i really do read just about everything to the to the end. As mad as I am, I'll read the whole thing. Because, you know, sometimes it's turned around. This one, there are certain things just...
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Yeah, no thank you. Oh, thank you. Well, I think there are couple other things. So we focused a lot old books and we're coming to the end of our time. So I don't really want to open a new can of worms. But just a flag for maybe future consideration is, oh, I had a thought too that was like in between you guys. Like you can read an old fun thing and maybe it'll be bad or maybe it won't. And maybe that's part of the journey. Oh, the thought I was having was that happens with me now with contemporary
Modern Romances Feeling Outdated
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stuff. Sometimes I read stuff and like, wow, this is cringe. why this person writing that happens that happens with basically any book published at any time probably could pick up a romanticy book and like not be able to tell which one it was because they all look the same i'd be like oh yeah it's got blood and ashes and thorns on it on in the title so it must be that one that ingrid recommended crown probably it's not crown of blood and heaviness Crown roses and thorns, crown of ice and magic. It's like that every time. And it is formulaic. And I will say this. I will say this. In the older books that I have been reading lately, there are couple of things just not to open up the can arms, as Erin said, but we talked about the things that we don't like. And here are some of the things that I miss that I wish were present more in books now.
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s the best vocabulary. Amazing vocabulary. Yeah. Rich descriptions. It's the pace is a lot more intentional. You don't have to have authors. You don't have to have a cliffhanger on the end of every chapter. i guess if you're doing Kindle Unlimited and you get paid by the page than you do. But in these older books, you write you you you were if you sold the book, you sold the book. If people didn't like it, fine, but they already paid for it. do you know what i mean? so So the the craftsmanship of the flow, the tension, amazing, right?
00:25:32
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You have to slow down and pay attention in a lot of these older books because the word choice and the sentence structure is just richer. Yeah. And i I love that about older books. You know what I mean? So definitely, definitely some things that when I've been looking at some older throwbacks, fantastic. Fantastic. That's a good point. Yeah, we were really bleh. But that's true. Okay, the other two things that I was going to flag that are semi-related is I think this isn't just a year's thing either. Well, I said that kind of already with the I pick up books now. But the other thing is I was just going through –
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Every single i just like on this, like going through my TBR journey. And there are books on my TBR that I put on there back in 2019 whatever, 2020. Because I read, like, for example, I read um the Billionaire's Wake Up Call Girl. I wrote a review on it on the blog. And then i added maybe the next book that was going to come out to my TBR, but I never read it. It's still on my TBR. um and I don't think as a reader, i want to read that kind of book anymore. You know, like at the time, i kind had fun reading it. i was new to contemporary romance. Like, oh, what's
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And now I'm like, and it's not that much. It's been five years, 10 years. Yeah. And so and that's already a shift just in what I want to read or what I am curious about. And then the other thing is I've been reading all this, you know, M.M. Romance the past few years. And lately I've been reading some of them like, oh, gee, I'm using air quotes, M.M. Romance.
00:27:08
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Which is also only about, i mean, a lot of there is some that's older, but a lot of it is like 10 years old. It's not that old. um And there's some stuff that I'm like, oh, the presentation, like the that culture has shifted significantly in just 10 years. Hmm.
00:27:24
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um And yeah, so it's I think we've talked a lot about old books, quote old books. I'm using air quotes again. But it's it's I think it's a really interesting conversation in general ah a to look at not only culture shifts, but like reader preference shifts and like how they play together. Because like I said, I had fun reading those couple contemporaries and I removed those books for the rest of the series off my TBR because I was like, I don't want to read those anymore. Yeah. They're not my vibe anymore. So it's it's like it's such a huge scope, I guess. Yeah, I think it's not just one thing unless, Ingrid, you meant to just have it be like really old books with maximum. cre Yeah, I mostly just wanted the ones with the scantily clad ladies and the. men with long Fabio hair. It was kind of what I was thinking, but I liked that you took it and ran with it because that's... Shirt unbuttoned, but still tucked in.
00:28:16
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Always... Only wearing a leather vest. One shoulder completely exposed for the ladies. Yeah. Yeah. Why is she outside in her lingerie? Yeah. We don't frolic outside in the... Yeah. Anyway, even in the winter, if you have a winter book with those step backs, the lady's going to have one shoulder completely exposed. Anyway.
00:28:36
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You know, but a fur robe. Yes, fur robe, but one shoulder exposed. um o And blue eyeshadow on all of them. Anyway. Okay, so that's it pretty much for um this conversation.
Conclusion and Encouragement to Enjoy Reading
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00:29:21
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00:29:39
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