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Episode 240: More Foundations and a Boxing League!

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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome back to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast! All the hosts are back for two weeks in a row y'all! This is the first time since early summer and hopefully is a signal of returning to "normalcy". Today's episode looks at specific cards from Foundations/Jumpstart 2025 and leads into a discussion of a Boxing League that Hobbes is currently in with other #MTGAmbassadors. Hobbes has to painfully describe how he ended up playing Sultai. His deck can be found here. A bit of a warning, we do discuss the election towards the end of the episode and the impact it has had on the hosts.

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Episode Introduction

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Podwalkers, and welcome back to another episode of the Godland Lore podcast. ah We have managed um two weeks in a row to have the whole cast here, and it is very exciting.

Revisiting Last Week's Topic

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We are here to talk about actually kind of same thing we talked about last week, only different, because there's a lot to talk about with this set. We're talking about foundations.
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ah Before that, I guess we can do some introductions.

Social Media Updates

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I'm Alex, phoned no longer on Twitter, as I said last week. I am currently between social media platforms. I have not decided if i if I'm going to create a Blue Sky account or not. it is It is downloaded on my phone, but I have yet to launch the app.
00:01:15
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So i agree with I'm currently only only found um on the goblin lord discord if you happen to be there. Otherwise, I am um just a ah voice in your podcast feed. um My pronouns are he him.
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And we have an opening question this week. I might as well get my answer out of the way and then let my co-hosts

Favorite Reprints Discussion

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introduce themselves. So as we're talking about foundations, we'll kind of get more into the specifics of this week's topic, but we will be talking about cards. So we just, nice easy, let's talk about what your favorite reprints from the set. And so I want to talk about Averna, the Chaos Bloom. I have three like main decks I've been playing for a long time, and I've talked about those three a lot.
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But I also have a couple ones sort of in the background that I really have i've built over the last few years and have really enjoyed, especially they are more casual. I put much less money in attempts to make them strong. And so these are my funds sit down and just do some goofy things. And Averna is one of my favorites. This is a 4-2 Elemental Shaman for green, blue, red with the the ability. As you cascade, you may put a land from the card exiled ah from among the exiled cards onto the battlefield tapped. So basically just a nice three-color payoff card for cascading. and So I just have this Teamer deck that is full of every cascade effect I can find.
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And it's fun to just be a big dirtle and cast random stuff all at game long. And so I just I love seeing this card kind of

Social Media Shifts

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come back. And this is just a gorgeous has a has a nice new art as part of the foundation's jumpstart set.
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Well, I am Hobbs Q can be found everywhere on the internet, including blue sky. Um, I did lock my Twitter account, uh, kind of after, after the election. So, um, after election night, I did lock down for a couple of days.

Card Features and Artwork

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I have myself open and that's mainly just because finishing up some of the, uh, cross posting that is to do with the ambassador program for foundation. So, um, I'm doing a giveaway over on blue sky. I'm giving away one of the beginner packs, which is pretty cool.
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Um, and if you want, you just have to follow me over on blue sky instead, because I am really porting all of my social media over to there right now. I still cross post, but ah that's really where I'm planning to kind of find a new home. Um, I actually found something hilarious when I was doing a search for these. So I had a good idea of what I wanted to do, but I would like to point out that they list a card under a reprint that is not, but it is a functional reprint.
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And it's a functional reprint. It's not my answer, but it's a functional reprint of our first ever goblin lore podcast preview card, which is, you see a pair of goblins has now become goblin surprise. And for some reason they listed as a reprint it's in both jumpstart 2025 and, and foundations, but it has not been reprinted before, but it is a ah straight up, just say Manicost at instant, but you can run two of them now.
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ah It really took away, I think what ended up happening was the cards from the D and&D set, they gave the choices names, which don't work in kind of a standard thing. So this is just, I mean, if you wanted to, you could run two copies of it now on your deck, which is you either get to give your creatures plus two, plus zero, or create two 1-1 red goblin creature tokens. Flavor text on it is amazing. It just says, hey, your door's broken.
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um I'm going to shout out two more because I could not keep myself because Cranko got reprinted with new art that I actually very much enjoy. But more importantly, got flavor text that says threats extortion. Good sir, you have me all wrong. I am a legitimate businessman. My colleagues and I are simply here to conduct legitimate business.
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So this actually goes to the card. It sure looks like it. ah Let's go to the card that I was going to choose, which is Witness Protection. but It's a recent reprint in which an enchanted creature loses all abilities, is green white citizen creature, and is a 1-1 named legitimate business person. So you can actually make Cranko a legitimate business person.
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that if you're playing against Krenko, because it's never done anything fair ever. This would be a very good use. I turned a coma into a legitimate business person today. I saw Zamone get turned into a legitimate business person the today. And let me tell you, it was amazing, little Zamone going to business school now.

Older Reprints and Standard Formats

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It seems like a waste after doing cross-dimensional mathematics. we We had some discussions about burnout.
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with her in her game today. Gosh, there's so many because I settled on those three. ah Yeah, there are. There are a lot. ho I had a lot of trouble picking just one and it probably. No, and I probably would have picked Krenko, but I knew you would mention him. and So I'm going to mention, you know, one of my favorite cards ever. The Tally Primal Storm got a reprint.
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Uh, and I just love playing other people's cards and getting us free spell from yourself too. This is one of those things. Like if you ever play it and don't have a way to get at haste, you're just so sad because there's almost no chance it's going to get around the table again. This one has to actually attack. Oh, yeah. so much work But then you get up to four free spells. Yeah, you do.
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every attack. Yeah. and I love the art, um original art. Unfortunately, we had forexianized Itali, which isn't as cool. um But yeah, I was happy to see So you're printed in. And also, I just want to give an honorary mention to Llanowar Ls because um for standard, at least one man of Manidorks have not been common for a while. So we get the good old fashion. Good old, just simple Llanowar Ls. Back to literally the beginning. Yeah. I always like to see one of those, you know, old alpha cards get show up in in standard.
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There was a really fun older reprints into standard. um Yeah. And I would like to see somebody make a Genesis wave deck happen.
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Yeah. Well, you know, you can do gates now. You can mazes end. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, mazes end is in standard. So that's that is fun. I actually am really excited about that. I didn't realize they printed mazes and that is awesome.
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and progenitus, progenitus and standard. Yeah, I don't think that's gonna catch in standard. I mean, you could attempt to progenitus and standard, sorry. So the that yeah, I guess the those were the starter boxes is where the mazes ended. Oh, are those standard legal too? Yes. Okay. All the temples will be there.
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um Yeah, and Maze's End. And I only know this because I saw people talking about Maze's End decks and getting ready to to build them.
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So yeah, as of its pre-release, it's now listed as legal and standard. So it's it's really kind of funny. I do love that. standard Yep. That I, the like the one standard format I played was, was Theros, whatever the hell came after Theros.
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Yes, there is. No, no, it was the other one. It was before cons came out that I was playing. Doesn't matter. yeah because That was RTR return to Ravnica. Oh, yeah, before that came out before there. That's right. I was playing return to Ravnica. There are standard. And so, yeah, that's the good old days for me is, you know, Temple Temple Scry pass the turn is how you start every game. Temple. screw Yeah, that's I am happy to start a game of commander like that still.

Boxing League Format Exploration

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i I put temples in all my commander decks. I, I, uh, surveil lands were also very good between the two of them. I, uh, I love them. I love the, I don't, yeah. I love surveil. Nice. There's some really good surveil cards in this set too. All right. Well, do we want to get into the topic? Yeah. We have a topic. Talking cards. Talking cards. Yeah. well Yeah.
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Yeah. And you are going to talk about your boxing league, too. I do want to talk about boxing league, too. So where do we want to start? I'm fine with whatever. Oh, let's just, I guess, start with some cards and. And. I know I mentioned Sire of Seven Deaths last week, so I don't need to. Oh, I was going to talk about that one too happy to start with that. I will say after sure we can start with that.
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after playing with it today. That card is bonkers. like It is absolutely bonkers, especially with the the ley line acts that's in here. Oh, yeah. Like double strike and plus one plus one on it is such a ridiculous life swing. It's not even funny. And, you know, war to pay seven life is just Yeah. Yeah. See what's funny is the deck that I want to put this in isn't the deck you'd expect. You'd be like, Oh, it's an Eldrazi. You put this in your Kozilek deck, right? like yeah I'm not going to put that in my Kozilek deck. My Kozilek deck wins with Kozilek or it doesn't. Please tell me you're putting it in Zada. No, no, I'm not. This is one of those cards that is not going any of my, in in any of my main three decks. Okay. This is going to go into my Cathril Aspect Warper deck. Yes. Does anyone remember that card from, uh,
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Nope. What was the Kaiju plane? Ikoria. Ikoria, yes, from the Ikoria. I forget that happened. Yeah, so this is that the Commander Cathril is two white, black, green for a three, three nightmare insect that has when it enters the battlefield, put a flying counter on any creature you control of a creature card in your graveyard has flying.
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ah yeah right Repeat to this process for first strike, double strike, death touch, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, menace, reach, trample, and vigilance. Then you put a plus one, plus one counter on the the commander for each counter you put on a creature. So Sire of Seven Deaths has six of those seven six abilities on that list.
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um And that is the most on any card in the entire game, I think. not Maybe not like there's a Chroma that might be better than that, but it's up there. No, I don't think there's anything that has more than stepping towards. Well, Ward is not on the list, so I'm only getting six off of it.
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Only six. Only six. Well, but I mean, I don't think there is anything with seven keywords. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yes. And it would have to have seven keywords and be the right seven. But anyway, so yeah, I'm putting sire. I'm definitely getting a sire of seven deaths to go into my Catherine deck. That's, that's one of those like my Averna deck that is, is Not a deck I've done a ton of work on, but I kind of have it and have tinkered with it. And you can kind of tell the last time I really built a bunch of decks because they're all from that area. Commander Legends or Ikoria, basically. um I really am a big fan of the Leyline Act, so I mentioned it with in terms of that, but I love Leylines in general.
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ah Having it on an equipment is interesting and and I am thinking of just I it also gives plus one plus one double strike and trample So I'm yeah, that's like everything you want all together. Yeah, so it's probably gonna go into Sir Gwen Like that's an easy inclusion in the Sir Gwen and yeah because you need more disgusting weapons in that deck Yeah, like yeah, sometimes you just need to win through combat through commander damaging, you know, I Double strike would help it be a little quicker. Yeah. No, I definitely need to consider that one for Muri as well.
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um
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Well, the, the borderless version, I was going to tell you, Alex of sire of seven deaths is really cool because it lists the keywords in like, uh, templated center justified straight down with no, yeah, with no rules, textets or not. yeah with no remembering a gu And there's not any of them, like i on the actual card they there's a couple, um, but there's a couple on there, like, uh, on the same lines. Oh, no, there's no explanation, but yeah, they aren't in the center.
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yeah and Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That special printing is also quite expensive. Yeah. ah Crystal Barricade is another card that um is in that vein of things that I enjoy. It's like a zero four wall that gives you hex proof and it prevents all non-combat damage that will be dealt to other creatures you control. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of just well, it prevents me from doing anything to you with my Imodain deck, but all I have to do is target another player stuff and that's going to still hit you.
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Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is true. But it does basically make it so I can't zap any of your creatures. And i was I was happy to see how many, you know, between this and the other sets, just how many good old fashioned walls there were. There are quite a few defender creatures. I was actually wondering what the number is.
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Yeah. And not just defender, but actual walls to, you know, get the old throwback. Okay. Got you. Cause the other one I was thinking of, I know was actually a wall, um, rune sealed wall. Yeah. That is a zero six that you just tapped to surveil one. And like I said, I really love surveil. So. so
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Yeah, it's basically, well, it's a bigger version of a rune scar or the, uh, or rune crab or whatever the, um, scry crab is. Yeah. Oh, starfish. That's what it is. The starfish, not the crab, the sigil starfish.
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So a few more before we kind of talk a little bit about boxing league, um, cause we're going to do next week. our Our plan is right now, everybody that's listening, we were planning to do kind of a little bit more deeper of our, um, Mel and Vorthos dive, looking at a lot more of the mechanics in the flavor. Um, so we were just kind of looking at some cards that we thought were good call outs. And then we were going to discuss a little bit about a boxing league that I'm doing one that I love is homunculus hoard.
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So whenever you draw your second card each turn, so if you have ways to keep drawing on other people's turns, if you can draw multiple on, on, on not yours, yours, you create a token. That's a copy of it. And then each token would then create two tokens. It's like scoot swarm for drawing cards. Yes. Yeah. It gets exponentially out of control. Um, but there's still just two twos, right? So it's just like this giant, like army of two twos. And I, I kind of love all that.
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Yeah, I like cat collector a lot. um um Well, I'm no one's surprise. Yeah, Callie just me out at me right before I mentioned it. But I love that it comes with food to attract the cats. And then when you gain life, you make a one one cat. um And then the flavor text is why so many because they need a home just like I once did. And so, you know, this lady is just thrown by cats. So we have it.
00:18:07
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good old fashioned cat lady on a car just called cat collector. They absolutely love it. It does everything I want it to do. um It would totally go in my cat stack, but it's itself is not a cat. So it does not get to go on my cat deck. Oh, see, so I was wondering on that because like there's I have this in in I wasn't able to get a proof there. There's none out there. He doesn't own anymore.
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um i Thought about so like I was trying to decide if I was gonna ever include a non goblin What would be the like where would I in the proof deck right like what would I acceptably? ah Choose and I thought that I would include mob catcher Because it lets you tutor up any goblin, but it's just weird cuz they're catching goblins but I yet. Yeah, so i I didn't know I didn't know if you would allow the cat collector to be Yeah, no, it's kitties only in the deck. I don't even you know, it's an appointment based deck and I don't even have a stoneforge mystic on it. um And then but I did I did commission art of a stoneforge mystic as a cat and just in case I ever wanted to put in a proxy.
00:19:24
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ah of it. That's awesome. I still have a very old, at this point, set of sleeves. from Do you remember when when Star City Games was doing card art, as but except with squirrels? Oh yeah, the cute animals, card art. I have a set of sleeves that is Stoneforge Mystic as a squirrel. Yeah.
00:19:49
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If we're talking, uh, and you know, if we were talking jumpstart, cause this is that weird, i mean we can talk about it. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't really matter what legality it has for talking about cool cards. Cause my brain thought about this, right? Cause I had thought I'd been looking at getting a purpose for a very long time for the goblin proof deck. And I never had been able to, and I was kind of justifying, right? Like, can I play this God or not in there? Except now it doesn't matter because we got general Crete, the bolt bringer.
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which is great anime art, by the way. um But this is whenever one or more goblins you control attack, create a one-on-one red goblin creature that's happened attacking, great ability. But also whenever another creature you control enters, it deals one damage to each opponent. So it's it's half of a perp rose, but is a goblin. Yeah. i would mean I would feel much better seeing this in the command zone than a perp rose.
00:20:43
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Perphoros is so hard to remove that I hate playing against it as a commander. Yeah. See, that's the thing. This is the well, it like I said, that though, this is the fairer version and it goes in a goblin. And and that art is freaking awesome. Yes. And it's a lady goblin. Also has a great punny flavor text to cross swords with her is as shockingly bad idea as there's lightning coming off of her sword in the art.
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Also auto include for Zada for me. like this Zada is the one of my of my three main decks. Zada is the only one that really has any cards in this set in either of you know piece of it. And there's a bunch. Zada's eating good. Well, jumpstart alone. I mean, jumpstart has Zada. Zada, yeah. That was one of the other new art cards I had noted down. There's a cool-looking Zada in there.
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Yeah, it's the guest artists. It also has kind of that anime-ish flavor, right? I mean, it's one of the Japanese artists. Yep. yeah Is that new flavor text? Oh, on the Zata here? i um Yeah, it is. It is, but yeah.
00:21:54
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yeah She pulverates each Hedron and consumes the dust absorbing the power within. Yeah, it's her original flavor text as the Hedron holds magic for a thousand years or less if need be. Yeah, that's right. That's right. God, do we need way more story on Zada. She's such a badass. I love Zada. I have a couple more Zada cards I can throw out there.
00:22:18
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which are also have fun flavor text because goblins, is is as we have learned through the course of this this podcast. So um in in the main foundation set, there's Seer Slicer Goblin.
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It was a two-one for one in a red with raid. At the beginning of your end step, if you attacked this turn, create a goblin token. Just cool. I'll just, I need more token creators in that deck. Also fantastic flavor text. Iko hadn't intended to start a riot, but now that it was underway, he was having a lot of fun. yeah Very goblin flavor text. And this is a Kamigawa goblin. Yeah.
00:22:56
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And then, yeah, and this is this is fun too, where you you have these cards from all over. So you have that Kamagawa Goblin there, you have a Zendikar Goblin, and the Dropkick Bomber. Other goblins, get put you control, get plus and plus one. Also great for that set. It's a mostly goblin deck, but... ah So having more pumpers are great. And then has red until end of turn, another target goblin you control gains flying. And when this creature deals combat damage, sacrifice it. I love the flavor. ah and i don't interrupt the flavor text But I just meant in general, the flavor of this card. Okay, yeah. And then the flavor text, I've always enjoyed kicking stuff. So this was an ideal career opportunity. Yeah, it just
00:23:39
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it it it it It is up there with the the the flavor text for Mog Fanatic of, I got it. And then um the goblin, ah the the other one that says goblin word for flying is translated as like falling slowly or something like that. yeah um Just the idea that goblins really shouldn't fly. Yep. No.
00:24:02
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yeah I absolutely should not about a goblin being promoted to first boulder or something. Yeah, some better flavor text. I think it is. Yeah. not The other favorite for flying, which is inflate the toad. That's. Yeah. That's got a balloon brigade.
00:24:21
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Yeah, probably, that sounds about right. Oh yeah, ah yeah s Sling Gang Lieutenant, ah freshly promoted to first rock. Zazz is eager to make an impact. First rock. Yeah, that is great flavor text. I love goblin flavor text. Yeah, goblin balloon brigade is the enemy is getting too close to quick inflate the toad. Yeah, that's a classic one.
00:24:47
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Yeah. hu
00:24:51
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okay we want to You know, let's talk about boxing league.

Origins and Impact of Boxing League

00:24:55
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So what boxing league? So what is it, Hobbs? Yeah, boxing boxing league is um it was kind of, you know, if i'm I'm remembering my my history as well as I can, but all the way back to the year 2020, which I believe was the first time that this was kind of run as a like an actual league where we we added packs throughout. But it was the brainchild of BDM and Sheldon. And basically they were looking for a way to kind of, I think,
00:25:24
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Do variants on commander that that gives building restrictions because building restrictions oftentimes actually makes things better. i I find I like having restrictions and the idea was you buy a sealed box of a set and.
00:25:40
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You create a deck out of the contents. So it's singleton hundred cards um I've played it a couple of variants people have done I think Tay you mentioned the league and I was in one like this that You started with less packs and started with only a 60 card deck and then kind of built up each week Adding so many packs or every couple of weeks. out Yeah, I did that for commander legends to the Baldur's Gate set Okay And did you guys extend beyond then, like to the point of then bringing like adding packs from other sets in there? No, we didn't. Once we finished that environment, we didn't go beyond that. So so the first time we we we did this.
00:26:21
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ah It was ambitious. ah it We were adding six packs every week, which quickly just kind of got out of hand. ah um so i I also did one for Lord of the Rings. I forgot that because I had ah i ended up with a really good elf stack in that one. so that With that one, did you do the same thing where you started with like the 60 cards and then built up to the 100?
00:26:43
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Uh, yeah, we did because I was changing decks pretty much every week. Gotcha. So with this right now, we've only gotten as far. So it's, um, um, some of the other people that have received product from wizard, some of the ambassadors, I think, um, uh, Amy Cole, Amazonian also joined us because she has sponsored. So she had a ah box as well. And we, we, we all built and I, okay. Longtime listeners of the show.
00:27:12
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One thing you need to know about Hobbs and probably do know is that he is not a c Simic mage. He is not all about that Simic bullshit. and Okay. Let's get that out of the way now. Just going to state it. I am not a Simic mage.
00:27:28
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I am protesting the fact that this box felt trolly because I started off with the first real legend that I had that felt strong enough to build around being Coma new coma, you know fixed coma, right? Yeah, really? Yeah fixed 8 12 for 7 with trample Ward 4 Can't be countered. Yeah, it's that makes more things. It's it's that makes if it does any damage Makes three more four fours Fair card, so I open that
00:28:11
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with a doubling season. but but And it just proceeded to spiral out. Speaking of good, um they good reprints, though. Yes, needed a reprint. Doubling season feels like I think it will end up at hopefully ah ah a reasonable price, I will say. Yeah, it's already dropped to like 35 and the set hasn't even been officially released yet. Because there's there's There's multiple different, like, you know, there's the, the Japanese style. Yeah. That's going to be like a $500 card. That's going to be a lot, but, but, but the normal version I could see be, be very fair. Right. I mean, I'm, I for one am not looking forward to seeing more doubling seasons and commander. Okay.
00:29:02
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um You know, I want to let people I want to play having season instead. I love having season. So if people have not seen this, it's an unknown card. I sent Taya a copy of it, I believe. Yeah, you did. yeah It's just the black, um the black mirror of doubling season. Yes. ah But for opponents only, right?
00:29:28
Speaker
Uh, probably that would make more sense. I think it is. I think it is one sided that way. So I continued to open this box. I then opened the moon.
00:29:41
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Who is a doubling season that brings along counters with her? Well, she's got, she doubles counters. But having seasonless opponents only, I still have it sitting right on. It's like, it's sitting literally behind my mock Sapphire and my cool cards box on my desk.
00:30:01
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Um, so I open Simone. ah Like I said, doing doing her thing after, I guess, she's it's she's a paradox sculptor at this point. But at the beginning of combat, you get to put plus one, plus one counters on up to two creatures. Then you can just double the counters on up to two target creatures and or artifacts for two. So I open that and then I open Tatyova.
00:30:31
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And then I open loot. And then I open Genesis Wave.

Commander Choices and Strategies

00:30:38
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At this point, my box was telling me very clearly that I was going to be playing Simic. Now this entire time I kept going through and seeing really cool. I opened like the Blasphemous, eat it.
00:30:51
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Oh yeah, that but art looks amazing. The art is fantastic. The, the card itself is, is, is cool. It's a take on blasphemous act, except the black version of it, which is you, well, you may pay, it's got an alternate costing cast of black. If there are 13 or more creatures on the field and each player sacrifices 13 creatures, the sacrifice makes it very nice. You damage usually will.
00:31:16
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he Literally opened every Simic commander in the set. Oh, cool. I thought there was a fourth one. So that makes me feel good. that like No, I mean, there's pretended this and then there's the one you're going to talk about in a minute, but you got all the ones that were strictly Simic. You got all of them.
00:31:33
Speaker
So I was going along with this, and like I said, I opened up Blasphemous Edict, I opened up like the Abyssal Harvester, which is a really cool exile creature from a graveyard that was put there this turn, create a copy of it that's a nightmare, and then you exile all other ones. so That is a really cool card, I like that one. I opened that, I opened like the High Society Hunter, which is a better version of the Six Drop one that ah Was it whenever another non, whenever another non token creature of yours dies draw a card. This is any non token creature dies you draw a card. So I was opening all these black cards. I did not hit a legendary with black and this speaks to the set.
00:32:13
Speaker
I would say, you know, we talked about this before. This is not a commander set, even though there is good stuff for commander. And with that starter deck and starter box, since it does comes with like your soul ring, your arcane signet and your like command sphere, you can at least be started. um And I do like the commanders that are available, but they they're really I did not hit one with black in its color identity until Pac 32 or 33. It was far along and it was Lathril at that point.
00:32:43
Speaker
So I had resigned myself, dear listeners, to playing Simic in this league. And in Pac-36, I basically squeaked when I realized that Moldrotha, the grave tide, was in the set. Yeah. We got to play all those cool black cards you opened to. Yeah. So I got the place to build tide. While still dealing Simic Bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Built on a built on a a scaffolding of c Simic Bullshit. if you we We played the first game of this today on hilariously. The decks were Moldrotha.
00:33:21
Speaker
Coma. Zamone and Muldrotha. Do you think Simic might be good in this set? I think so. um I am playing again this week on Thursday and I do know, you know, I think I'm playing with Beth who opened Niv-Mizzet, which that new Niv-Mizzet is just absolutely ridiculous. I know somebody built Elesha. So people did. I have to say though, we we were having this discussion that with it, if you do have even just Simic,
00:33:52
Speaker
is the way to go. Muldiratha just takes it to another level. Oh yeah. Muldiratha's always been a disgusting commander. Yeah. I never played it until today. I um i became arch enemy pretty quickly because I had that sire, which the other Muldiratha player did not have. Rub in just how many mythics you've gotten at one box.
00:34:19
Speaker
Yeah, I also got a Fiend Artisan with a new art. Let me see, I'm just going through my list real quick. ah Yeah, like I said, Loot Meteor Golem turns out really good when you can keep replaying Meteor Golem.
00:34:35
Speaker
yeah Scavenging Ooze. I got Solemn. Which let me tell you. Another good card to replay. Uh-huh. I got witness protection in Prison in the Moon doubling season.
00:34:50
Speaker
Oh, I got to do probably the best play and I did it. I didn't even know if it was the right moment to do it, but I sent a message very early on. Uh, the coma player hit seven manna and they were acting all, you know, like, I was like, well, I'm going to just play my land here for the turn and just pass turn with six open manna. And they were like, well, ha ha ha whatever. And they were like, you know, I was like, well, I've got six open manna. You can do what you want with coma. And they were all trying to figure out, they were like, well, he can pay the Ford Ford, but what card can he have?
00:35:21
Speaker
can't be countered i got to time stop a coma i i knew that's what you were gonna say when you said you had six man upload it really was people like six and that that the other players that were not aware that time stop was in this sense yep i love that card so much I love it. um I love my favorite version of it is obviously the one you can't reprint into a foundation set. Because it's the foil version that just says end the turn. Yeah, no other text on it. Yes, this this is a card if you you look up a copy of it. It's I think it's hilarious. Because I remember the the original version of friend had to show this to me is like, yeah, the the actual rules text is three words long, then the rest of the text box is taken up with a parentheses to explain what that means.
00:36:10
Speaker
it's it is It is six lines of text. Yes. Yeah. Because it has to explain what ending the turn does. Yeah. when you just It's an instant that ends the turn. It stops everything that's happening. It also exiles itself, by the way. Right. And this is ah this is one of the only variants of this ability you can play on an opponent's turn.
00:36:34
Speaker
ah So yeah, six mana sounds like a lot, but this ability is extremely powerful. And it was funny to do it through a commander.
00:36:45
Speaker
like that a seven mana commander like it was it was very enjoyable um some other all-stars that i did not get well i i was trying to set up a turn so i became scary quickly um with having the swift boots i was scarier than the other muldratha player oh yeah i was finding ways to keep like recycling things and i was keeping uh her board in check Um, so she built up a decent amount of presence and just early played preposterous proportions. Which this is the card that has two different printings, one of which has the lemur versus lemur flavor text on it. But the ah version that we had was the, um, the, the, uh, what the squirrels
00:37:35
Speaker
Yeah. And but basically it gives all creatures you control plus 10 plus 10 and vigilance. So, uh, I rightfully was killed the turn that I cast. I don't know if you all have seen this card revenge of the rats. It's basically spider spawning, except it, um, they come in into tapped, but you get a one, one black rat token for each creature in your graveyard. So I basically had a turn where, uh, and it has flashback.
00:38:03
Speaker
But I basically the final round before I died, I cast doubling season with Revenge of the Rats with four creatures in the graveyard. And I was planning to untap with 13 creatures and play preposterous proportions. No, you got that too. I have that too. Yeah. Yeah. I'll have that. Yeah.
00:38:29
Speaker
the The the poor coma player was trying to shut down my sire of seven deaths and I was able to They tried to essence scatter it. I gave them an offer. They couldn't refuse Yeah, they then attempted to just like kill it outright including paying the seven mana or the seven life and I was able to um I was able to oh Snake skin veil Just put a plus one plus one on it and it gains text proof. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. Like the deck was doing ridiculous stuff. I will say scavenging news being in the set. That was what they had to kind of like conspire on was one of the the coma player dropped a scavenging news and they were able to finally slow me down. But this deck is actually having me be like, wow.
00:39:26
Speaker
Maybe I like value engines and I'm having to reevaluate everything in my life right now. So I, I don't know. I'm pleasantly surprised as I just looked up the price of the kitty doubling season and the regular one is running about 76 and the, uh, shatter foil or whatever they're calling it this time around is like a hundred and.
00:39:50
Speaker
11. So it's actually a lot cheaper than I expected. I thought that was the normal foil. I thought the shattered foil. The shattered one is running. Yeah, there I had it backwards. The shattered one. Scryfall is saying 76, but I wouldn't be i'd be really surprised if it was that cheap. The fractured foil. Yeah. one Okay. There's something going on with TCG player's price. It says market price $76, but the cheapest one listed is 500.
00:40:17
Speaker
Yeah, and that's I've been seeing them sell on Facebook for that. Yeah, I would believe it. but But like this deck, like I said, it was, uh, I, I was, I was, I did blasphemous edict the board because everybody was playing Simic. And so the board got just really bogged down. Uh, I will say in boxing league that can happen, which is one reason that something that can grind out some value is really good. Yeah. That happened a lot in our Lord of the rings one too. because Yeah. Uh, eventually someone would get their ring high enough that they just start
00:40:50
Speaker
Getting through and dealing damage to everybody though. Yeah, so like that was the thing. Blasphemy made a big deal. Flyers and rogues passages in this at uncommon so everybody kind of had access to that. um That actually kept life totals fairly reasonable like I had been being attacked. i gained I gained a redunculus amount of life from Syro the 7 death because it has lifelink and I was doing that just to stay paced with what was being taken down each turn. um I even let my Syro do first strike damage blocking a coma and then killed the coma before second before regular strike just to get the lifelink.
00:41:33
Speaker
Um, some other standouts from this, uh, wary thespian, which did come from mom, I guess. I think that was mom. Yeah. It just, whenever it enters or dies, surveil one. And then the other is cephalid ink mage. So I think cephalid ink mage is new.
00:41:53
Speaker
um It is so it's an uncommon for three. It's a it has threshold but then it when it enters it it surveils three so that I Was able to keep rebuying that with most Rotha and Like surveilling three putting a land in a creature into the graveyard is really good. Yeah, I mean you're doing exactly what you wanted to so I For the power, yeah, for like a boxing league, this was very, um I missed a couple of cards, so I've had, you know, this is a kind of fun thing. um I didn't realize that ven vengeful blood witch, which is also new. It's an uncommon, oh no, that's not the one that I was thinking of. Not vengeful blood witch, vampire gourmand.
00:42:42
Speaker
ah Which is also new though, but whenever it attacks, you may sacrifice a creature if you do draw a card and it can't be blocked. Oh, yeah, that's really good. And I missed that on my first time through. That's why it's kind of an interesting thing. um ah the mis The the Mossborn Hydra landfall that doubles the plus one plus one counters every time you landfall. Yeah. Yeah. ah Yeah. So good just how many on color rares and mythics did you have? ah Let's sort by rarity and let's figure this one out. ah Let's let's.
00:43:18
Speaker
group Well, it's grouped by rarity. um I am playing 14 rares and four mythics. Out of a single box, that is very impressive. Yeah. So that is 18 on color rares or that. Yeah. So it it was a wild box that pushed me there. And I will say that the trolling from Wizards ah continued.

Collector Box Opening Insights

00:43:50
Speaker
I did get a collector box. I opened four comas and five, no, three comas and four copies of the new flash fairy. That's mono blue, which are open for less doubles in my collector box. Yeah. That would, that's some pretty bad collation in 12 packs. The manifold oils are beautiful.
00:44:15
Speaker
So I don't know if you, it's kind of the, I don't know if you, do you remember the, the stepping complete ones? Yeah. like It's kind of like that, but it's got like the manna symbols in them and they have like a ah texture to them. What one did you get? I got an omniscience with some really good alternate art. That is sweet. And it's going yeah straight into Angus. Yeah, I need one of those for Nira. I like the art better than the original art.
00:44:42
Speaker
So like I said, I don't know what we're doing fully with this. um This one, like it's just like said, it was a bunch of the, you know, ah creators that are doing the ambassador program. We're just like, you know, we have we haven't a reason to just.
00:44:58
Speaker
do a boxing league, right? Like we can collaborate

Community Initiatives and Support

00:45:01
Speaker
this way. We're all kind of getting to experience this and boxing leagues are fun. Like that. And I don't know if we're going to ever add more packs or what we're going to do for this one. We haven't talked that far out. I like the idea. If you're doing one with friends to do kind of what you were saying, Taya, with um starting with the 60 car deck, just so you can make your box last a lot longer before you're buying other packs.
00:45:23
Speaker
because it can obviously get expensive if you're, you know, if you just started with a full box and then keep adding packs every couple of weeks, it can get paying how you do it. No, I would love to do one with the discord if people would be interested in doing that.
00:45:39
Speaker
I think we could get a Discord game going. So if you want, I mean, if you're listening to this and you want to join our Discord, this is a good time to remind everybody, we do have a ah very active Discord. um And I think ah you know overall a very ah just welcoming Discord, I would say. you know there's I mean, i ah ah yeah, i find it I found the Discord this week to be a supportive place to go to when I was struggling. Yeah, I think we all need that.
00:46:10
Speaker
And we do need that. I know that kind of far afield of magic when you know we um recorded our last episode the night before election. um So I was realizing that ah today as we were starting to talk a little bit about um just what's been and going on, it just occurred to me that we really, ah this is our first episode and the first time the three of us are sitting in talking since the election. so Yeah, I'm coping with legal substances in the state of Washington. And I can't really call it coping, but... Well, you can. It is. It is a form of coping, and it's... Yeah. Yeah, i'm i'm I'm going through a series of audiobooks that I was talking about a little bit in the Discord, just some some gay little books about some people being
00:47:07
Speaker
Happy just having having some adventures and being happy and it's oh wow. Okay. Sorry books So yeah fiction obviously fiction fiction. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, um yeah I am I mean, i'm I've been leaning into ah I Don't know ah trying to do stuff with my my kids and my my wife Yeah, I've been playing a lot of dia Diablo with the Xavier because that's a good distraction as well. I went and played board games all day on Sunday with some friends. Another helpful distraction. I've been keeping myself busy. I'm not just sitting around totally messing things up. I've been trying to keep busy.
00:47:57
Speaker
Well, you, I mean, you, you did some intentional self care, right? Like you, you planned it and you actually did it. And, um, yeah, that's what I've been doing my best at. Um, and, and realizing that, yeah, it's just and the hard part of it, right? Is this is, uh, there was actually a really good, uh, Jen and I went to a talk this weekend and it was about like parenting during difficult times. And it was funny to see a lot of the stuff that we talk about on here.
00:48:27
Speaker
to do with grounding and to do with um present moment focus. it A lot of these tools that the parenting consultant was recommending were things that we talk about on this show a lot for ourselves and just how to maybe bring kids into it, which is a, you know, I think obviously the audience that they were talking about was more probably kids that were older than and mine. It was kind of reassuring though to hear that you know, the things that we think of or that we kind of talk about on here, whether it's, you know, using that warm cup of tea to kind of bring yourself back to the moment or, you know, doing the paced breathing or having a warm hug, whatever it is that you need, the physical touch for people, just that is what we can do right now and the,
00:49:22
Speaker
The future is going to come and uncertainty is something that I personally struggle with and I've had to focus a lot more this past week for me on present moment. i've I've shared a lot of memes with people over the last week because we're all trying to find a little bit of joy. Yeah. And you're allowed to, right? Like we're allowed to have joy. I think it's important to remember.
00:49:51
Speaker
And this is a really weird area that we've ended up on this episode, but. I mean, not, sweet we took a tangent. Yeah. really Yeah. Like the discord got brought up and I decided to take us down like sad lane, apparently. Yeah. No, but and the discord has been really helpful. Yeah.
00:50:12
Speaker
It was my way to kind of encourage people to come to our Discord if you're not already there. Yeah, if you want to come be sad with other sad people, you know please join our Discord. You know, from a self-compassion standpoint or from a compassion standpoint in general, common humanity is one of the main pillars. And realize that we are not alone in that. It's the difference between wallowing versus feeling connected.
00:50:39
Speaker
And that discord makes me feel connected. And i I think that this is my long roundabout way of saying, Hey, we're thinking of doing a boxing league with the discord at some point.
00:50:52
Speaker
I just decided to take a really sad way to get us there.
00:51:03
Speaker
So thank you everybody who who joined in for this downer of an episode. I mean, only the final couple of minutes of it. I actually still am really excited for Foundations. um I've been seeing more people talking about picking up starter kits or the beginner boxes in particular to teach people.

Podcast Conclusion

00:51:21
Speaker
One of my girlfriends is picking up, they're getting a box tomorrow and I was like, oh wow, I might actually have a partner that plays magic. Oh, that's awesome. Finally.
00:51:32
Speaker
Wait, I thought the whole point of being but like being Polly was to have a just ready to go commander. like I mean, somehow I've screwed that up. yeah This has been the Goblin Lore Podcast. Thank you for listening. We can be found both on Twitter and Blue Sky at Goblin Lore Pod. Check out our link tree for our Discord and our discounts. We appreciate you listening and welcome feedback via social media or Discord. Until next time, Podwalkers, remember that goblins, like snowflakes, are only dangerous in numbers.