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Episode 258: Finalest Final Fantasy episode (maybe)
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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome back to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast! In a shocking turn of events Taya and Alex talk Final Fantasy! Highlight’s from the recent Universes Beyond set, their history with the games, and who the most hatable character is from the franchise.
Warning that this episode does have spoilers for FF as we know that some people might be coming to these games (as old as some of them are) through Magic the Gathering!
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Introduction and Hosts
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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome to back to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast.
Main Topic: Final Fantasy
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um Tonight, we are just two of us. As we kind of talked about in our our last episode, Hobbs is taking a break and also kind of works out well for this episode because as much as we love having Hobbs around recording with him, there's not a whole lot he could contribute to this ah particular topic. Tonight, we are talking Final Fantasy.
00:00:56
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I know we are already have story. Yeah, again. ah We've already got story and stuff for the next set coming out, but we never got a chance to really sit down and dig into like the main set for these cards. So I guess... thing you know Edge of Eternities has already got six episodes out, and I've only read the first one, so I've got a lot to catch up on for that.
00:01:18
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Yeah, I have six to catch up on myself, so that'll be a good topic for us to talk about probably next week. um And then then give us an opportunity here to just talk about this set that we, you and i both are very excited to talk about. And we've we have talked about in bits and pieces over the last two months, but never really...
00:01:40
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Drilled in on the main set. So I'm going to introduce myself ah less than two minutes into the recording. and I feel that is an accomplishment. That's great. My name is Alex. I am found on the Goblin Lord Twitter and nowhere else on the Internet. Currently, i am have almost entirely detoxed from social media and it is delightful.
Hosts' Personal Final Fantasy History
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My pronouns are he, him. And why don't you introduce yourself and then we can kind of do our opening question from there. Sure. I'm Taya. Taya transcends on blue sky ah and pronouns are she, her, or they, them. You know, and i'm I'm excited to um be back after Vegas, which Vegas was a lot of fun. And we'll talk about that a little bit today. That's right. Yeah.
00:02:31
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It'd be fun to hear about it. But first, we have a question to answer. Yeah, yeah. So because we have, you know, Final Fantasy is kind of the main thing. And as you and I have been talking about for on and off for a year after since they announced this, we're both big fans of the series.
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And so i was thinking, why don't we, this is a good opportunity. We can kind of just talk a little bit about our, each talk about our own history with the Final Fantasy video game series and kind of maybe some of the highlights and some things just from, from that.
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um And so I guess I can go first. I started with the the very first one I played was Final Fantasy VIII. Kind of a weird place to start. um Especially that Generation VII is the big one. ah And IX is a good one. that But it was like the last one. So like you've got a PlayStation. You're kind of looking at what's most recent.
00:03:23
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VIII is kind of weirdly sandwiched in the middle. ah But I really like that game. It's the first... jrpg i ever really played the first game i played that had like that much emphasis on story because that's a big deal for for sort of this genre and these games in general um and the just the ah full motion video uh yes cut scenes too were yes and and for you know At the time, which is is something I guess important to qualify for for folks who were younger and did not play those games, or might be playing looking at the games now and saying, how does this look good? Believe me, the full motion video of of especially eight, like seven blew people's mind, like the cut scenes, the video.
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The graphics of the actual gameplay were a little less powerful. cutting edge or, or they felt less realistic. Um, but eight and nine, especially got every drop of power they could out of the original PlayStation.
00:04:29
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Yes. and And I'll say one thing that is a nice thing for 9. I like 9. I wouldn't put it toward my top, though. i know it's it's one of your favorites. But ah it the stylized um look of 9 ages way better than 8 and 7 that both try to look for like realistic graphics that...
00:04:50
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don't look good in the year 2025. oh But I still really like that game. It had like the most in-depth mechanics of a game I'd ever played to the point where well, I got myself stuck and I had no idea how to play.
00:05:07
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But then when I went back after i don't know how many hours into eight, I was stuck somewhere in disc two, I think that was old another eight crazy thing from you know when I was playing final or Nintendo 64 games and it was a cartridge.
00:05:20
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And then you get to PlayStation RPGs and it's four discs long. It's like this is incredible. So much game. um But then when I i went back like ah a year, a couple of years later, later i was a little bit older teens.
00:05:34
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And going through the game a second time was when I really fell in love with Final Fantasy VIII because I learned, I knew enough of the ground, for of the mechanics. I was able to really learn how to to dig into them and exploit them. And I'm a person who has fun playing with spreadsheets and Final Fantasy VIII.
00:05:53
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feels more like that than most of the game final fantasy games so i really like the junction system final fantasy 8 had that really weird like magic stealing system yes yes you you your magic was limited uses rather than just having a spell that cost x amount of mana now instead you had like three uses of fire and that you would extract more from people and you could get it up to 99 keep draining the same monster for their best spells repeatedly until you capped it out with all three of your characters because then you would junction those spells into your stats and put fire to attack and now your weapon attack had fire damage on it
00:06:36
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And all sorts of other things. it was It was a bunch of nonsense when you really dug into it, but it there was a lot of barriers for people to have fun with it. So I understand it being being one that is is lesser regarded, but it was my first and I i really, really liked it.
00:06:53
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um I never actually played 9 back in the day. I played a bunch of 7. I got really into Final Fantasy X when it came out on the PS2. I remember being jealous of my friend who got his got a PlayStation 2 before I did and playing Final Fantasy X and watching the graphics, seeing the graphics of that game, just watching him play it sitting at his house and and just being like, i he and I must have multiple times said each other, like, graphics can never look better than this. This is so good.
00:07:22
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ah And then kind of, I didn't play much of the the the games um for for years. I i got 12. Actually, another thing about it, did get Final Fantasy 12 right when it came out.
00:07:35
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Because, I don't know, I have what I think is kind of a funny Final Fantasy 12 story. Because I got the game, I was playing it and Persona 3 at the same time. Two big JRPGs on the the PlayStation 2.
00:07:47
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And then I started playing World of Warcraft. And then I didn't play any other games for like three years. Yeah. and that'll That'll happen. Yeah. It just, it totally just completely took me from those games. So like those are two games I, I hadn't, I just didn't, I just dropped at that point in time. And then eventually I kind of started playing some other things. I got into some other franchises. I talk a lot about some of like Mass Effect, one of my favorites.
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so The first game is my favorite game of all time, even if it isn't the best game in the series, for sure. But I just love that game so much. But eventually I did get back to Final Fantasy XII.
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um I started playing in 2020. I was looking for things to do while I was stuck at home. And I got the PS4 version. They did like an update of it, brought it in some of their content that was in like Japan exclusive versions and things. And so I was i was having a lot of fun with Final Fantasy XII, the Zodiac Age.
00:08:44
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And then like a month, a few weeks into playing that, was like, kind of want to go back to wow and then i dropped final fantasy 12 a second time to go back to world warcraft classic for this again so wow wow sidelined me from and like vanilla world of warcraft sidelined me from final fantasy 12 twice but then about a year or so after that i i got that out of my system and i I had other social outlets. Like, honestly, for me, WoW was a big social outlet at that time.
00:09:16
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And I don't regret playing it. It just was kind of funny that playing Final Fantasy XII made me want to stop playing Final Fantasy XII start playing WoW again. And so i when I finally did about a year later, I dropped that. I went back to Final Fantasy XII. was like, I'm going to actually finish this game. So I picked up my save.
00:09:32
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It had only been a year. It was enough that I could pick it up and finally finished that game and then i realized that was the first jrpg i'd finished since final fantasy 10 2 on the ps2 originally came out and kind of started playing some of those games again and that's when they announced this set and i then went on a bit of a sprint last year and i played through 10 well between last year and this year's about 18 months i played through 10 final fantasy games getting one through six I was one through six, nine, 13, 15, and 16.
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ah Filled in all of the non-MMOs.
Taya's Final Fantasy Journey
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12 was pretty recent. Seven, I think I know well enough. I played seven, eight, and 10. ten i I knew well enough that I felt okay going into the set without having played them more recently.
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And it it was a lot of fun. And I got to say, like six, I think I would still probably put eight or 10. up there for my favorites. I really liked 10 just aesthetic wise. 10 is so good.
00:10:36
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Yeah. That was the first one that had like modern graphics really. Yeah. And, and, and some really gorgeous, um, just places, locations that yeah don't look terrible today.
00:10:50
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wow it's getting like graphics are way better than they were back then, but a lot of that stuff still looks pretty good. The water looks surprisingly good. this you know This year.
00:11:02
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But like six really surprised me. Honestly, four was okay. I know a lot of people liked four. Four was ah my assessment going through these games in 2024 and 2025, having never played them before with no nostalgia.
00:11:18
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Four felt like the first one that was really big with the story. Two and three had ah good amount of story in them, but also they didn't come out in the US at the time. So a lot of folks around here, four is the first one you to play that had a lot of story to it. The first kind of it was a little iffy and not bad way. But in a late 80s, there was not a lot.
00:11:40
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They were learning how to build these games. There's a lot of formula from one that carries all the way through. But in in in ah retrospect, it was like pretty threadbare compared to two new things that were all built on top of that systems. But four did really built a lot of good story.
00:12:01
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Otherwise the game was kind of okay. But, and I kind of was expecting that out of six, especially after five, I really liked the job system in five. I think they did a really good job with the job system in five, but then six, it was good.
00:12:16
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Six was really good. I'm replaying six on my phone right now. And, uh, yeah, it's just bringing back memories of how good it it was. Uh,
00:12:27
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yeah they They did some funny things, some funky, cool things with Gameplay to mix stuff up. there was think we talked in one of the last episodes, like but I think it was one where we talked about the Commander decks. like Basically, every character in 6 is at least decently likable, except for the one character you're supposed to hate, and he's very, very hateable. It's so...
00:12:50
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um I just today was watching, um there there's a YouTube series or channel called Villainpedia, and they have an hour-long episode on Kefka.
00:13:02
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oh God. It was fantastic. That's fantastic. Beautiful. So that's kind of my my history with the series. I never really played the MMOs. I played a little 14, never touched 11, very intentionally did not pick either of those up as part of this project. like, I'm trying to play through 10 games. I'm going to avoid those.
00:13:20
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Yeah. So... um Um, my first one was Final Fantasy two, which is really for it. It was the second one released in the US. Um, I had seen the first one in Nintendo power and read all about it, but it was like $75 and you know, a nine year old me couldn't afford it.
00:13:41
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Yeah. Like literally 75 back then carts were wildly expensive sometimes. Yeah. Some of the bigger carts were very pricey. um ah So i had ah i had never gotten to play the first one on the original Nintendo, but I traded like three games for the second one on the Super Nintendo.
00:14:05
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And when I got it, um it already had a save state at the last save at the beginning of the Moon dungeon. ah So, of course, the first thing I did was beat the game after having never played it. far i had experience with other JRPGs. I had i had been a big Dragon Quest fan.
00:14:24
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ah ah So I knew what to expect from that point of view. But ah yeah, I just went like straight to the final boss because that's where the save file was. And then like, okay, that was fun. Maybe I should play through the rest of the game.
00:14:38
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ah Nice. this is um So ah yeah, for those of you too young to remember, your save games used to be on the cartridge themselves, not anywhere else.
00:14:52
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So if you've got a used game, there is a good chance that you would have the save file from the previous player on it.
00:15:01
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Um, but, uh, so that, um, kind of really sparked my love for the final fantasy games. Uh, when three came out or six, you know, in the actual numbering, uh,
00:15:18
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dumped probably hundreds of hours into that game, maxing out every character and, um doing everything I could possibly do, that I could possibly find in the game.
00:15:31
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you And this was pre-internet, so you either had like word of friends from your mouth about yeah word of mouth from your friends saying, oh, I found this really cool thing, you know maybe you should go look for it. Or you know you had an Nintendo Power or something that talked about things. But otherwise, you you had to find it all on your own.
00:15:53
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Yeah, and that and that magazine thing, sometimes it was limited, and sometimes like you had to be at a current game, too. If you're picking it up used a year or two later, you may not have those issues. Yeah.
00:16:05
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So, ah you know, i played I played the heck out of that one summer, um and then, you know, played all the modern ones after that when they ah when they finally released the rest of the originals on the DS, I think not in the DS, the, uh, Game Boy, uh, advance, I think is when they re-released all the originals. Uh, I went through and played the rest of them, at the time.
00:16:37
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um I remember one of them, I got really frustrated on. I don't remember if it was three or five, but I got like super frustrated and just like dropped it like partway through. um uh, because it was really, um, grindy. Yeah.
00:16:55
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I'll say one thing that was nice for me is they relatively recently released the pixel remaster collection. Yes. I, I have, uh, I, as I mentioned, I'm replaying through six on my phone on the pixel remaster one. Uh,
00:17:10
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It's been pretty great. i I got my shiny new Switch 2, and the first thing I've been playing on it is the Final Fantasy IX remaster. Nice. ah Which, even that is six years old, so it's not cutting-edge by any means, but they did update the graphics from the original PlayStation graphics a fair amount.
00:17:32
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Yeah. And made it playable on modern systems. yeah and and thing i'll say i enjoyed the history lesson i am glad i played them with quality of life opportunities yes like there were definitely points playing through all of the first six games where i was just like and now it's time to grind set experience to 4x go out and just cut that grind time into a large to much smaller piece yeah uh i've I've been enjoying that as well. I'm kind of bummed that and the nine one ah doesn't have an XP boost. It only has set characters to max level.
00:18:11
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Oh yeah. was i'm just I found, yeah, it didn't have the XP boost, but I found there was something that helped me like crystal grind faster. You can, you can really up the combat speeds and get rid of the combat animation, which helps a lot.
00:18:26
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Maybe that's what I was doing. Cause yeah, i I played through that. That's how I played through nine recently too. uh, but yeah, so I've been, I've been a fan of the series since the start, even if I didn't get to play the first game until after it was re-released years later. um but it's definitely, you know, my kind of thing. I've always loved JRPGs since playing the first Dragon Quest on the Nintendo.
00:18:53
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Um, you know, it was, uh, kind of a formative experience for me. it's, probably my favorite genre of games, even if I don't get to play them much anymore. I don't, I think I've talked about, I don't get to play single player games much at all anymore, just from lack of time.
00:19:12
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um So like, that's like when I'm replaying nine right now, my partner's watching me play it. so that's kind of how we've been spending evenings together ah little bit. um But yeah, I think, you know, and then, yeah, as I've mentioned before, i put an ungodly amount of time in the 14. I absolutely love 14.
00:19:36
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um it's a It's one of my favorite games of all time. So I was very happy to see how much love it got in the cards. And it actually got the most cards out of any game, followed by seven.
00:19:51
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um the two most popular easily. Yeah. And 14 is really, you know, five different games because yeah of all the expansions that have been released for it.
00:20:04
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Yeah. I mean, and it's kind of two different games too with, and don't know if there's a lot of fans of the original, original version, but no, I don't think so. And, and the original, original version, ah I don't think even counted for this because, you yeah yeah know, they they have the cards that are named after the expansions and we get Realm Reborn, which was the reboot.
00:20:27
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Yeah, um the that's the closest the closest you get to referencing the original game is it had to be reborn from something. Yeah, that's
Card Game Mechanics Discussion
00:20:35
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yeah. I did like that touch that they released cards with the names of the, ah even though some of them are on the bonus sheet, they did release cards with the names of the expansions.
00:20:47
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That's cool. See, and I noticed a few, but I did not, i I filtered about enough and I didn't realize there was one for all the expansions. That's cool. I actually don't know if there is one for Stormblood.
00:20:58
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um But the other, well, there's one for Shadowbringers, there's one for Endwalker. Endwalker. ah There's the one for Realm Reborn. ah i don't know if any of the other ones got them.
00:21:14
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ah Several, at least. That's that's cool. I got you to Realm Reborn, and I probably noticed one of the others, but it didn't stick to I'm bummed that Shadowbringers, which is my favorite one, is on Dovin's Veto, because fuck Dovin and fuck Counterspells.
00:21:31
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Yeah, yeah. um That's fair.
00:21:36
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OK. So yeah, I think we've got got quite a bit to talk about. um Since the last time we talked, the full set was released. Obviously, it's out now to play. um The rest of the ah special guest cards were released. There's a lot of them in this set. And from people who actually play limited, I've heard they're kind of reeking format on the limited, know,
00:22:04
Speaker
just wreaking havoc on the limited format. ah But I really don't play limited. I don't play on arena. So I don't know much about that other than what I've heard secondhand, but yeah.
00:22:19
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These are common enough from, from what I saw opening them. There's one in roughly every three packs. So they show up fairly commonly. and yeah,
00:22:33
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and therere there's a lot of really powerful ones for a limited game. a
00:22:42
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Yeah. I don't know if we want to start. You said you had a list of cards, so maybe you can start one of those. Yeah, let's start with a weird one. So like i said, like a lot of my stuff is, is more Malthose, which is kind of what we do for these tend to do for these set reviews anyway. So I want to start with a battle menu.
00:23:05
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So one of the things that I think it was super cool, I mean, clearly there was a lot of stories and events and characters that they wanted to represent to these cards, because that's kind of the whole point of basing an entire set on a property like this.
00:23:21
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But I think it's also really cool that they they made a bunch of cards around just like mechanical parts of the game. Yeah, we got battle menu, starting town,
00:23:35
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what are What's the other? ah There's a combat combat tutorial. Combat tutorial. That was the other one I was thinking of. Yeah. And and also random encounter.
00:23:46
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Yep. and is that counter Is another interesting one. So yeah, we just, those, those sort like battle menu in particular, I think is, is a fun, it's, it's a modal spell, which I always love modal, but then it it's, it was a D and D set, the boulders gate, or maybe the first D where they like introduced this, where they just put like the italics,
00:24:05
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Yeah, that was the first ah and for Adventures in Forgotten Realms was the first time. Oh, okay. Adventures Forgotten Realms. So and that is super cool here too, like that technology to create like flavor text within the mechanics sort of. So here, you know, the choose one, create a 2-2 knight, target creature gets plus 0 plus 4, destroy target creature with power 4 or greater, or you gain 4 life is a fine card, but doesn't feel really tied to to final fantasy but when you can change those to when you can like tag those as attack ability magic item that feels really like true to most final fantasy games are gonna have a battle menu that have those options how many you stop walking on my keyboard it's really excited to talk final fantasy she is yeah she uh
00:25:00
Speaker
She has opened my browser in full screen mode, and I have to figure out how to get it back. Oh, no. did Did she randomly select a card?
00:25:11
Speaker
ah No, she just scrolled all the way back to the beginning, so I lost the card I was looking at. Oh, counterproductive. That's true. Yeah.
00:25:22
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But yeah, Battlemen is a really cool design. ah The art from Final Fantasy VI. Yep. Yeah. And I guess if you're still looking at like combat tutorial one, I just mentioned too. I love tuna blue sorcery target player draws two cards, put a plus one plus one counter and up to one creature you control.
00:25:41
Speaker
It's again, not like wildly remarkable card. They flavored it for final fantasy 10. Most of these games have a combat tutorial. You could have done this with, but this is, this is like, all this also is just strictly better divination.
00:25:54
Speaker
There's that. Oh God, there is that. But like, Every set, one of the one of the things with Magic is that every set's going to have certain cards.
00:26:04
Speaker
You're going to have a draw spell. You're going to have some combat tricks of of specific types. You're going have some removal of of different kinds. And so to take something like this, draw two cards...
00:26:19
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you know but then add the plus one, plus one counter, this ah you know allows them to create the flavor of this, capture the flavor of this thing while putting it into this mundane task, or mundane slot that you kind of just need for the set to work.
00:26:32
Speaker
But you're right, this is strictly better divination, and I did not catch that. Yeah. ah So the one i want to so that the ones I want to discuss are the set of the side quest cards.
00:26:48
Speaker
Ah, yeah. um i got We got one in each color. um They all have... Final Fantasy has been known for minigames for a long time. I think since VII, really, when they added the whole Golden Saucer thing and the Chocobo raising and all that. ah ah that There's been minigames in every Final Fantasy since then. Yeah.
00:27:13
Speaker
And so we got we got a whole cycle of them ah this time. ah And they all have a um goal on the front side, something to achieve, and then they transform into a reward on the back side.
00:27:29
Speaker
ah Like if we're looking at card collection for one, which has been a thing since Final Fantasy VIII where they have mini card games inside the game. Yeah. It's also a nine. It's, it's a pretty big mini game in 14. Uh, I liked playing the card game, which the one in 14 is, I think the same as the one in eight or and a newer version of the one in eight, at least a triple triad, uh, which also had its own card. Um,
00:27:59
Speaker
But ah so this one is when it enters, draw three cards and discard two. So for four mana, you get some card selection. ah You're even on card advantage. But then at the beginning of your end step, there are eight or more cards in your graveyard. You transform it and it becomes this one becomes a vehicle, ah which is actually it's it's a mount you can get in Final Fantasy 14, which is just a a magic card ah from the card game.
00:28:25
Speaker
Uh, and here it's a four, four flyer with crew one. um so it's a very, um, it's a very good rate vehicle. A crew one for four power is a four power flying is a nice, uh, rate.
00:28:40
Speaker
And these all have pretty nice rewards on the backside. Yeah. Yeah. And they all, they all kind of fit side activities doing in that, which is funny. Cause like, ah i wouldn't I wouldn't consider those side quests. Those are like mini games or things like that where there's actual side quests in the game too, but it it kind of fits to sort of represent those together.
00:29:02
Speaker
But like you have like the Blitzball one is the big game in Final Fantasy X where they have like their own version of soccer-ish football that is underwater and also like is an entire... like You go and recruit players. You have your own team.
00:29:20
Speaker
And within this other big JRPG, you can just go recruit players to play in your team and their seasons and championships. And it's this... sort of pared down full on sports game that exists. I didn't like football very much.
00:29:34
Speaker
I loved it. But part of that was my friend had the player's guide. So I knew how to where all the best players were. Oh yeah. that probably helps Which helps a lot. But I love that the flip side of this one is um Waka's ultimate weapon. I think.
00:29:50
Speaker
where in like in final fantasy 10, some other games do this too. I think most, ah us especially some of the newer ones, I think we'll do this, but like in 10, every character had a specific ultimate weapon that took a lot of effort and a lot of work for that character to get. And I want to say this was Waka's that you probably got from doing Blitzball stuff. It's been long enough. I can't remember that for sure, but I love that they kind of captured both of those pieces within this one card.
00:30:18
Speaker
Yeah. Um, And this one, again, has a really good rate. Equip Creature gets plus two, plus oh, and double strike for Equip 3, which is a nice rate on an equipment.
00:30:32
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yeah so these, yeah, those are all fun. I had the Catch a Fish on my list, which is the Final Fantasy XV one, which is a funny one because, i don't know, I don't, there is some things I really like about that game, and there are some things I really don't like about that game.
00:30:48
Speaker
But the the road trip with the boys at like aesthetic for the first third or so, maybe a little more than that, of that game was was really cool. I really liked how they set that up. And that was one of the things you'd go.
00:31:03
Speaker
You literally had fishing, which you then caught fish to go to camp and cook, which then is the flip side of this is cooking campsite cooking. that was yeah That was the first one they showed off, and that was just like a real flavor win, especially if you played 15.
00:31:19
Speaker
Yeah. um Okay, cool. So... ah You brought up the side quest. Want me to grab the next one? Yeah, sure. Go for it.
00:31:32
Speaker
um So while we're talking about Final Fantasy 15, here's a quick throwaway one. It just, I don't know if I'm going to call this a flavor win or what, but it entertains me to no end.
00:31:46
Speaker
um That Instant Ramen is now a card in Magic. Yep. ah I just think that's incredible. Yeah. That's a pretty cool card.
00:31:57
Speaker
Yeah. It's Final Fantasy 15 for folks who aren't as familiar with the games is, is easily like the most modern one. It is, it is set in a fantasy secondary fantasy world. So it's not earth, but it is analogous roughly to where we're at in earth.
00:32:13
Speaker
Their technology, like literally the, the main characters have a car and they go on a road trip in their car. And so getting, getting instant ramen into the cave is beautiful.
00:32:26
Speaker
Yeah. um And I wanted to, you know, as long as we're mentioning items, basic items, the one I really want to talk about was Phoenix Down. Yeah.
00:32:37
Speaker
which is ah one in a white air just white for an artifact. ah and So you know it's an item you collect, you keep it in your inventory, and then when you need it, ah you can pay one and white and tap it and exile it to either get a creature ah man of value four or less from the graveyard back to the battlefield tap, so you bring something back from the dead, or you can exile a skeleton spirit or zombie, which um in a lot of the games, using a Phoenix down on an undead is an insta-kill spell.
00:33:09
Speaker
So they they they captured that flavor perfectly in this thing. that It just sits around as an item until you need to use it.
00:33:18
Speaker
ah And I love how they captured the flavor on that mechanically. Yeah, it's it's great. like Like similar to that, i I forgot to grab that one, but I got ether in my list, which is a similar thing where ether is another item that you get that like healing potion they also have. But I think that makes a little more sense if you aren't familiar with Final Fantasy. That's say a common fantasy trope outside of even Final Fantasy and and RPGs like this.
00:33:48
Speaker
But like Ether is the mana equivalent in Final Fantasies. It restores your mana, which is why the Flavor Texas restores 20 MP. But then it it's similar to Phoenix Down. You exile it. you You add a blue. When you cast your next instant or sorcery, you copy it, which is, I think, is a really interesting way to try to capture...
00:34:07
Speaker
that like in in final fantasy most of them your magic is you have a bad you have a pool of magic points that then spells cost a certain amount of points and you restore them through things like ether magic doesn't magic the gathering doesn't use spells that way um and so this was an interesting way to kind of try to synthesize it to do something similar Yeah, and then they have the big brother to both of them, Elixir, which are a limited item in the games where you can only find so many of them, but they're a full health and mana recovery potion.
00:34:46
Speaker
ah and the art on this card is amazing. Yes. ah It's one of my favorite arts in the set, and this set has a lot of amazing art in it.
00:34:59
Speaker
So much good art. yeah um But I think the next one I want to talk about are the tiered spells.
00:35:12
Speaker
oh Yeah. Final Fantasy has long followed the system of you know having a spell that starts as a base version. So I'll use Fire Magic as an example. You just have the first level is called Fire.
00:35:28
Speaker
And then you replace that eventually with Fire Arrow. ah which is basically Fire 2, and then you get Fire Agra, which is Fire 3 at some point.
00:35:39
Speaker
And they represented this by having ah cards that cost a base mana level for the first ability, and then they have increasing mana costs for each of each increasing ability and effect.
00:35:53
Speaker
So like this one, for a red, it just deals one damage to each creature. For two and a red, it deals two damage to each creature. And for five and a red, it deals three damage to each creature.
00:36:04
Speaker
Now, you're really overpaying for that last one. um You know, that's just Anger of the Gods, ah which is like one red red, I think, something like that.
00:36:17
Speaker
Yeah. ah So you're paying a lot more of it, but you're getting the you're getting the options out of it. So it's not unusual for these modal spells that cost more overall um because you get the options. But I just like how they did this ah for a lot of the famous spells in the game.
00:36:36
Speaker
That was a pretty ingenious way to do those. yeah Yeah, and that's I would not have thought of that. I'd have thought of those being maybe three different cards, but this is such a better way to have room for other things in the set, but also to represent how that works. Those spells are are sort of linked in some way.
00:37:01
Speaker
Yeah, those those are cool. Yeah, there's a lot of just neat designs in this set. There really is. And... and um A weird, maybe a weird one, but I think it's cool. Moogles Valor.
00:37:15
Speaker
Oh, that card blew me out so bad in the pre-release. I got got by that card. Yeah, it's, uh, yes, I could see that happening.
00:37:26
Speaker
But also, I just love that they're representing this moment. It's a weird, okay, so the the card is three white, white for an instant. For each creature you control, create a one, two white Moogle creature token with lifelink.
00:37:40
Speaker
Then creatures you control gain indestructible until end of turn. Like, so really good card. Um... protects your stuff, makes a bunch of creatures.
00:37:51
Speaker
But I love this because this is representing, honestly, for for me too, it kind of hits because this is really one of the earliest moments in six where I went, okay, this game is more than I was expecting.
00:38:05
Speaker
they're They're doing things with the design and how the game plays that I was not expecting. So this is the early, early on when you're running from soldiers trying to capture Terra And you run it. So these soldiers are coming in this cave. And so it's like okay, we're going to do this battle thing where you just split your party up.
00:38:25
Speaker
But there's only two people in your party at the time. There's three with Tara, but I think she's unconscious. And so these Moogles show up to help you out. And then you kind of break your party up with between the Moogles and the main characters that you have.
00:38:39
Speaker
And then you kind of, you have three strategic parties that you can kind of swap between to move around this area to kind of choke point Yeah, at the time you just have Locke and Terra, and Terra's unconscious. Oh, it's just, it is Locke and Terra. I thought there was someone else with him. No, it's just Locke.
00:38:54
Speaker
Okay. And then, yeah, so you get you get, you meet Mog there for the first time. He becomes a party member much later in the game, but... um Yeah, and then you get the other Moogles.
00:39:05
Speaker
But yeah, it was it was just a cool there' a cool moment there, but also it's it's fun that, again, like there's 16 games and more if you count like all the different expansions with the two MMOs.
00:39:17
Speaker
There's so much game to represent, and I think it's really fun that they took, like, no, we're going to take this moment from 6 that is basically a tutorial. Yeah.
00:39:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, as they they do that split up party combat a couple of times through six, and it's kind of your tutorial on how to do it. Yeah, and when they bring it back much later, you have more party members, and so then they don't need to fill them up with Moogles, but it's it's it's fun to have that moment.
00:39:51
Speaker
Yeah. um But it's it's a good card. It is... ah It's not ink shield level of blowout for five mana, but it's, ah it's pretty brutal.
00:40:09
Speaker
Um, so yeah, uh, the next thing I want to talk about are the summons, uh, which we, I know we discussed on one of the other episodes, summons have been around for almost as long as the game has existed. there are,
00:40:28
Speaker
always this idea of basically calling on a higher power of some sort that'll come work for you temporarily and then leave. A lot of the games, it's just instant. They show up, they do an attack and then they leave.
00:40:41
Speaker
Some of them, they stick around for a while. ah ah just depends on which game you're talking about and how they implement it. But the idea they came up with of the saga creatures was genius for these.
00:40:54
Speaker
okay And, and yeah, I, I, I think that worked really well. Yeah. Uh, they play really well too.
Significance of Ultima and Crystal Cycle
00:41:04
Speaker
I, I'm actually the, the, the deck that I'm working on from the set is the five color Tara, um, which is going to be a summons deck.
00:41:16
Speaker
Yeah. Cause you, you also get, um, So there's some of the like some of the earlier ones, and I love how they represented summons in a couple of different ways depending on the games. Because you get in like 13 and 16...
00:41:29
Speaker
thirteen and sixteen like the character, just the way they work, especially 16, like the character becomes their summit. That's why all like, like Jill is the first one I found here. Shiva's dominant. They call them dominants. Cause then if she calls in so Shiva, she kind she becomes Shiva.
00:41:49
Speaker
And so for those ones, rather than the sum, like they're the back face of a creature. So you have a legendary creature on the front. Some circumstance causes them to become the, the summon.
00:42:02
Speaker
Then at the end of when it runs out through its saga, then it flips back to the creature as opposed to the, most of this, like the proper cards that have summoned in them are just an enchantment creature you put down, you run through the saga stages and then you sacrifice them because they're leaving the battlefield. Like, like they do. Mm-hmm.
00:42:22
Speaker
And then you have the weird ones like the, uh, the guardian forces from eight where they just put GF in the name to represent. Well, these are from eight because they're all called guardian forces because eight because reasons.
00:42:35
Speaker
Yeah. It was weird. Yeah. Don't even get into the whole child soldier factory. that's a whole thing. Yeah.
00:42:48
Speaker
Okay. Well, um, guess I can talk about... want to talk about Ultima the Spell. Yeah, there's a lot of there's a couple of Ultimas.
00:43:01
Speaker
But the the white sorcery that is just called Ultima, and this shows up in a bunch of games. They're representing XIV in this particular art. um I'm not familiar with where that came from XIV.
00:43:14
Speaker
It's kind of the... It's like the big um ending fight from A Realm Reborn. Okay. ah they ah The evil emperor revives the Ultima weapon, and ah it, of course, goes out of control and blows up his whole castle.
00:43:36
Speaker
um And if it wasn't for Hydaelyn saving your asses, ah you would have been turned to dust. Yep, that's... that about makes it that That makes sense for how like Ultima gets used in in various games. You have Ultima weapons in a number of games.
00:43:54
Speaker
um You have Ultima as a spell in some games. um But I like even not even comparing the flavor to the thing, because this is one of the the games I can't really talk to, but I love.
00:44:07
Speaker
this is a a sorcery for three white, white. Destroy all artifacts and creatures. End of the turn. I love that mechanic. i Yeah. I don't know It's just such a wild thing they can put on a card. Because it does all sorts of stuff.
00:44:24
Speaker
Yeah, it does. So being on a sorcery, it does it does make this just a bad board wipe, though, because you have no chance to do anything after you cast it Oh, that's that's fair. and And it also means that the some of the the biggest end of the turn shenanigans you don't get to partake in.
00:44:42
Speaker
um Because I'm going to read this reminder text because end the turn sounds like, oh, okay, it's just over. it's like there's so many things that you have to do to end a turn. So there is one line and a single word is the main text. Destroy all artifact and creatures, period. End the next line, turn.
00:45:01
Speaker
That's the end of the normal text. Then there's four... almost five full lines or four and a half lines of reminder text to tell you what ending the turn does exile all spells and abilities from the stack including this card the players who turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size damage wears off and this turn and until end of turn affects it so again like you said as a sorcery you don't get to use this to counter spells which you can do with an instant that ends the turn You don't get to you know rebuild from the board wipe. There's some of those other things. But and I just love seeing those three words on a spell. Yeah. It makes me... ah Yeah, I was kind of disappointed when this was that previewed because ah i expected Ultima to be a board wipe of some sort, but I would have liked one that was actually playable.
00:45:53
Speaker
um There is the version that is in the secret layers, which is just Day of Judgment. ah which I think is quite a bit more playable than this one.
00:46:07
Speaker
And the art on that one's kind of amazing too. The art on this one's good too. It just shows the shows um the ultimate weapon blowing the place to bits.
00:46:20
Speaker
which was a really cool scene in the game. Oh God, you weren't kidding about that day of judgment from the secret layer. That's sin from 10. Just like taken out the town. um Besaid village.
00:46:36
Speaker
Maybe. Yeah. Okay. That's cool.
00:46:42
Speaker
um So the next ones I want to talk about are the crystal cycle. um which crystals are a mainstay in all the Final Fantasy's back to the first one.
00:46:55
Speaker
ah You're either trying to rescue or collect the crystals, find the crystals, save the crystals, take them away from the bad guys.
00:47:06
Speaker
They're chosen by the crystals. and the Yeah, there's always something going on with crystals, and they're aligned with the elements. ah so we got a we got a cycle of five of these all of them in a different color so we got the base four elemental crystals and then we got the darkness crystal uh which the darkness one was specific to it is that final fantasy three yeah final fantasy three yeah i think the all all of these ones i was looking at were three Yeah. Three is one of the ones where you collect all the elemental crystals.
00:47:41
Speaker
Yeah. i there Crystals kind of show up as a theme everywhere, but I think three, some, they're more prominent than others. And three was very prominent. Yeah. 16 was another very prominent one. They're also very prominent in 14. You spend, especially in a realm reborn, you spend the whole game collecting the elemental crystals. Yeah.
00:48:04
Speaker
But all of them have an ability that makes their spells cost one less to cast. So Darkness Crystal makes black spells cost one less to cast. Then they have a static ability. ah The black one is if a non-token creature an opponent controls would die, exile it instead, and you gain two life. So exiling creatures is always good.
00:48:22
Speaker
And then they all have an activated ability as well. And this one is four black black. Put a creature exiled with a Darkness Crystal onto the battlefield, tapped under your control with two additional plus one, plus one counters on it.
00:48:34
Speaker
ah I just like how they basically, they they took the series of legendary artifacts and made them do ah you know a cost reduction plus a passive effect plus an active effect that are kind of quintessential to those colors.
00:48:52
Speaker
yeah yeah and if if it's like especially from three the crystals are what gives you your classes too they let you unlock different jobs and so all of them have more than one effect as you well unfortunately as the bad guy is breaking them you the crystals is their like last thing is like well here's more classes go save the next one and then yeah it breaks and then you have to go to the next one and Yeah.
00:49:18
Speaker
So, um, yeah, i like the blue one involves milling. um the white one of course involves life gain. you know, the red one is a damage increaser. I think if I remember correctly,
00:49:35
Speaker
um I do love my damage increasers. Oh, red ones haste and copy token copy. That's right. Um,
00:49:46
Speaker
And then the ah the green one is counters, because of course it is.
00:49:55
Speaker
Yeah. um But yeah, that was that was a cycle I really liked, though. um was We only get flavor text on the blue one, I think, because there's just no room on the rest of these with three abilities on each one.
00:50:11
Speaker
ah which is a bummer because I love my
Legendary Characters and Cultural References
00:50:14
Speaker
flavor text. But um yeah, so that that is another really cool cycle that was. Yeah.
00:50:22
Speaker
Yeah. um That's for my my next card. It's just another mainstay of the of the franchise that I'm sure they had on the list day one. We're representing this somehow is the Marlboros.
00:50:35
Speaker
Yeah. Those are present in basically every game. I don't think it was number one, but when they showed up, they have shown up every game since. They're a nightmare. Yeah. Just awful, awful things to deal with, which is also why they are creature plant horrors.
00:50:50
Speaker
Yeah. But I love the bad breath here because ah so when this creature enters, each opponent discards a card, loses two life, exiles the top three cards of the library. Because the really awful annoying thing about them is they tend to have an ability called bad breath that just gives your all your entire party every status ailment that game offers. Yeah.
00:51:12
Speaker
which is awful. Yeah. They are brutal. They some of the worst enemies in the game because when you're all, when all of your people are confused or petrified, they can't, you can't even cure them. you just kind of get your ass kicked at that point.
00:51:27
Speaker
and And you stop playing. You just sit there and watch the game play itself while the characters get killed from poison and hitting each other. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of awful, but also a great, great card to represent. Like it,
00:51:43
Speaker
there's going to be a Marlboro, of course. Yeah. um So, and there's there's a lot of those, like Toneberry was one of my favorite ones. I got a Toneberry stuffy at the Square store at ah Vegas.
00:51:57
Speaker
um It's adorable.
00:52:02
Speaker
But ah we talked about that one previously, so I don't need to talk about it more. um I think just in kind of a ah larger and I think this will be common with all the universes beyond sets just because of how character focused they are but just how many named characters we get here there's like 96 legends in this set just in the main set that doesn't even count the commander set or the um special guest cards yeah or even the um like learn starter kit that has legendary too to
00:52:41
Speaker
There's seven, eight, eight legends, unique new legend cards in that starter kit. Yeah. So there're there's a lot of legends in this set.
00:52:54
Speaker
um Yeah. And it's cool. Similar to the Lord of the Rings set, some of these characters get multiple cards. And sometimes it's through multiple. Like you have a cloud in the starter kit. You have a cloud in the main set. You have a cloud in the commander deck.
00:53:09
Speaker
Yeah, of course Cloud was going to get you know the full three printings. that i like yeah Yeah, but even like Ultimacia and Lightning both got multiple cards. Yeah.
00:53:21
Speaker
Yeah, I was kind of surprised about Ultimacia, to be honest, getting multiple cards. Yeah, the villain sort of of eight and it's cool. Yeah.
00:53:33
Speaker
I can't complain about that. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so we got it in there, you know, from Uncommon up. So they show up all the time.
00:53:46
Speaker
yep ah And yeah, there's just a, you get a huge variety of them. And I think they covered, you know, I i couldn't think of a major character they left out really. Yeah.
00:54:06
Speaker
Obviously, there were so many more named characters in XIV that could have gotten cards that didn't because the game's been around so long, but they got all of the huge characters into the game. Yeah, and and for the single-player games, I think they basically got ah free major protagonists and antagonists every every character who enters your party, at least, and most of the major people you fight.
00:54:33
Speaker
And they got Absolute Virtue from Final Fantasy XI, which apparently was a raid boss. Yeah, ah even I had heard about that one because it was like a 24-hour fight to defeat it. Oh, I had not heard that. Yeah, that's cool.
00:54:47
Speaker
It's cool that that got represented. let's say Final Fantasy XI definitely got the least representation in this set, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And it's still around, but like 14 is way bigger than it.
00:55:01
Speaker
And then the I think the single player games are all more well known, more widely known at least. and Yeah. At least, I mean, I can't say what it evolved to, but I played it when it came out and Final Fantasy 11 was not fun when it came out.
00:55:15
Speaker
ah you know You know, I'm guessing the fact that it's still around shows that people play it. So they must've done something right. ah but I did not find it remotely fun when it first came out. Yeah, the the closest I got to playing it was standing at a Borders bookstore, flipping through the player's guide, trying to convince myself to buy it because I loved World of Warcraft so much. Like i I dabbled in a lot of MMOs after starting WoW and then just none of them stuck because I got so into WoW.
00:55:50
Speaker
Like, oh, what was the superhero one? Oh, City of Heroes? Yeah. I think. So I got played Death for a little while. Yeah. I got... i got Yeah, there there was a bunch I got into. The the closest was... Star Wars The Old Republic, I actually genuinely got to Endgame for a little while. i played a lot of Star Wars Old Republic. I maxed out multiple character classes.
00:56:18
Speaker
Each of the classes had its own unique storyline, too. And Bioware, like, story love me sit Some some old now older Bioware RPGs, they haven't managed to hit the same highs recently, but they did some good stories on a lot of voice those fully voiced things.
00:56:37
Speaker
But yeah. I don't know. one I want to talk about one quick cycle, in particular one of the the cards I'm here, but the Adventurelands. I think are another cool one to talk about.
00:56:50
Speaker
So just in general, like it's fun that Final Fantasy, a game that generally is about some character leaving home and going on an adventure got, you know, this representation of um a adventure lands.
00:57:05
Speaker
But then like for me, like the, the most, the the, the coolest fitting one, I think, and maybe this is just my biases, Anarkand the, the green one Because the the adventure for this, called Lasting Faith, ah create a 1-1 colorless hero token, put a plus-1, plus-1 counter on it for each land you control. And I promise it's not just because I love land mechanics, but like part of how Final Fantasy works. Like in 10, in that world, you had real simplified thing, and we talked about this a bit in our past episode when we went through the Commander Decks,
00:57:45
Speaker
But like the summoners would go on a journey across the whole world. This was kind of the point was they were going to hit all of these places along the world, ending in Zanarkand, where they would kill do the get the final summon, defeat Sin, and then 10 years later, Sin would come back. But the world would get a calm when Sin wasn't there, wandering around just blowing things up the whole time.
00:58:11
Speaker
And so the idea that the you have a hero who has gets plus one, plus one for every land you have for them to journey through, just I love that.
00:58:22
Speaker
I love that that mechanical representation of that like flavor. Yeah. And it's also got good flavor text, too. It's a city dead for a thousand years, the end of Eunice's journey.
00:58:34
Speaker
Yeah. I like this cycle just because slapping an adventure on a land was just a great idea because then you can just play it as your land for turn two after getting the spell effect.
00:58:46
Speaker
Yep. Absolutely. And I think most of these are pretty cool. Like ah the white one is 14 and I can't speak to, but it's a cool. Yeah. The, the, uh, Ishgard is your,
00:59:02
Speaker
um
00:59:05
Speaker
you're You're like Catholicism inspired Holy City for the game. Okay. ah And they're in a constant war with the dragons. ah So I think Faith and Grief kind of references that. It's just... ah um
00:59:27
Speaker
And yeah, they all worship the god Halon.
00:59:32
Speaker
but Yeah, you spend most of the the first expansion there um as kind of your base ah and heaven's word.
00:59:44
Speaker
ah And it's ah yeah it it's a pretty interesting city. ah i like ah i like the Lindblom one, the red one.
01:00:02
Speaker
It just makes sure makes a black mage for you and then for two and a red at instant instant speed. I think if that's the only one that's an instant. All the rest are sorceries.
01:00:14
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:17
Speaker
Which is appropriate for the red one. yeah And that's a really cool picture of Lindblom as well. Yeah. Yeah. Like of these of like the base normal, I think that might be my favorite art. These five, the Midgar one is okay.
01:00:34
Speaker
I don't think that's the best angle of the city. Yeah. There are multiple other pieces of art of Midgar in this set that I think are better. Yeah. Or show the city better.
01:00:46
Speaker
And then the other, just the ah other tap lands, the the common cycle all, all have ah just scenes from different games in them. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
01:00:58
Speaker
Just super cool to see all these different locations. Yeah, and they all have flavor text about the location too. ah Yeah, so um that is, ah I think the the other thing, and it's a big sub theme throughout this, but it makes sense with the game is just ah equipment in general.
01:01:26
Speaker
ah there's there's a fair amount of it in the main set, but then when you add in the commander set ah and the yeah starter set, you get even more. and it's just yeah It's an RPG.
01:01:42
Speaker
Of course you've got equipment. ah yeah Yeah, all sorts of of different ways of doing it, too. yeah or Traditional equipment, you have the ones that come in with a hero that they're equipped to yeah Yeah, the job select ones. Job select ones, yep.
01:02:01
Speaker
So yeah, just just a bunch of different things. and again lot Job select's a really cool mechanic too. Yeah. I like that. but um i was I was kind of surprised it made the list with Excalibur 2 because it's an equipment that most people have never even seen.
01:02:24
Speaker
Because in order to get it, you have to get to the end game of Final Fantasy IX in under 12 hours. That's the only way you can get get the ah even get the equipment in the game.
01:02:37
Speaker
That's kind of wild. Yeah, so um
01:02:43
Speaker
so most people have never even seen this equipment, and it's Steiner's ultimate weapon in the game. And the flavor text on the card is actually just what the description in the game is, too.
01:02:55
Speaker
oh that's fun.
01:02:57
Speaker
Yes, speaking of flavor text, this is a piece of flavor text that read out of context to someone who hasn't played these games would just think there's something wrong going on.
01:03:12
Speaker
I love the quote on Lunatic Pandora. Again, Final Fantasy VIII being just a weird game. ah so Inside the Lunatic Pandora is this thing called a crystal pillar. It calls monsters from the moon.
01:03:23
Speaker
Yeah. Because that is a plot point in Final Fantasy VIII. You learn that all the monsters in the world come from the moon because they needed to explain that for some reason. Yeah. i I totally forgot that about VIII until this game.
01:03:39
Speaker
I forgot about that too until I read that flavor check. Oh yeah, they made up this weird world building thing for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. I also had completely forgotten about the poo-poo UFO until they printed that one too. Yes.
01:03:57
Speaker
That's another thing you can easily miss in the game.
01:04:01
Speaker
ah Yeah, that's and that's one thing that that these games have, to a greater illicit degree for some of them, but there are some really esoteric things.
01:04:12
Speaker
some Some hard-to-find, hard-to-reach things for people who are really devoted to just doing all the stuff. Yeah. um But yeah, I think that's a pretty good discussion of Final Fantasy. We've spent like two and a half episodes on it. So, um you know, hopefully next week we can start talking Edge of Eternity. ah There's 11 mainline stories for this set, I think is what I read, plus side stories. So we've got a lot to catch up on and discuss.
01:04:45
Speaker
Yeah. And the side stories, I think they said we're going to be from different different authors again. which they've been doing recently. And I think that's really fun where you get like the one main story from one author, that one voice through the whole thing.
01:05:01
Speaker
And then you get a bunch of little, you know, little pieces of the world represented through a bunch of different people's different voices and and writing styles and things.
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01:05:10
Speaker
Yeah. And I, um, I don't know if it carries through the, the framing, uh,
01:05:19
Speaker
the framing view from the, uh, first story, it's a little weird, but I don't know if it carries through to the rest of them, but I'm interested to see how that goes from there. yeah, the, the first story has links embedded in it and you jump around a little bit in the story, depending on what choices you make.
01:05:39
Speaker
Oh, interesting. Yeah. ah and, uh, yeah, it's, That's pretty cool. I need to sit down and read the rest of it when I'm have a little bit of free time. Okay.
01:05:55
Speaker
Well, cool. moreha Thanks everybody for, for listening to us like geek out about some like like this nice fun crossover of things that we, we both love.
01:06:08
Speaker
um The, this was a good time. And yeah, we'll we'll start talking Edge of Eternity. We'll kind of see where where things are. we With Bob's taking a break, we are, Tay and I do intend to continue to record.
01:06:21
Speaker
We'll see what our consistency is with with two people. It's a little harder to to fill in all the time, but we will we will continue.
01:06:33
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So everybody have good night, I guess. I want to throw a shout out to our Discord, which I don't think we've done in this episode yet. if If you do want to come hang out, we have a nice community in there that's always fun.
01:06:44
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01:06:56
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