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Episode 241: The Flavors of Foundations
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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome back to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast! This makes three weeks in a row with all three hosts!. Today we dig into the flavor and the Mechanics for Foundations!
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Introduction and Podcast Consistency
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to another episode of the Goblin Lore podcast. This is Hobbs Q, one of your three hosts. We are now here for three weeks in a row, which is amazing and wild and I don't know, I'm just really excited for it. We are continuing with Jumpstart because the set is just You know, we've we've kind of had like a high level approach to it. Last week, we kind of did looking at specific cards, things that we're interested in, talking about boxing league. um Apparently the podcast is up and running. If you want to join our discord, people are planning for after the start of the year, us doing a boxing league.
Deck Building: Hobbs Q on Alenda, Saint of Dusk
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um We don't have all the details worked out, but you're welcome to join our discord and find out more if you would like to play Some boxing league games with us and then this week we're gonna start in with our melt those discussion. So that is our discussion kind of about More of the flavor the flavor and the mechanics of the set so with that we want to kind of ask the first question that we have is what
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Commander that's new, I guess, or what what legendary that's new. Are you looking to potentially build around? um I'm actually going to go out there and go with Alenda, Saint of Dusk, who is an Orzhov, white, black, two, four, four, lifelink and hex proof from instances, instance instances of instance.
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ah Anyways, as long as your life total is greater than your starting life total, Linda gets plus one plus one and has menace. And then she gets an additional plus five plus five as long as your life total is at least 10 greater. I like white black.
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lifelink. And I haven't really built one deck around this in quite a while. So I think that this is just where ah yeah, I think this is where I want to be. So once again, I'm Hobbs Q. My pronouns are he him. And I'll pass it over to my hosts.
Taya's Perspective on Olesha and Card Art
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Hey, it's Taya pronouns are she her they them. I'm that my Most, I already talked about Olesha. I mean, I'm just happy she's in the set and she's obviously gonna go to Olesha, but um Commander, that are the new Commander card, I'm not gonna build around her, but um not only does she have great ah great art, great flavor text, and ah is gonna be perfect in my feather deck, but I'm talking about a Clay on Mary Champion. Mm-hmm.
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ah And she's a 2-2 for 3. She has double strike and she has heroic um impulse draw. ah So this is exactly the kind of thing I want to be casting my spells on in feather.
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ah Especially if I hit more cantrips off the impulse draw and she's already got double strike so I can make her really big.
Alex Highlights Takeo, the Ninja Turtle
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I wasn't sure if you were going to go with ah the new version of Kaikar. Well, that won't play in feather, right? But I mean, I it just yeah, I'm sorry, I was thinking of. Oh, and her flavor text is let us dance around the funeral pyres of our foes.
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um That is a very red flavor text ah to me. And I like that.
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um yeah i you know I'm not really a notorious commander person. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah. All right. Well, and I'm Alex Newman. My pronouns are he, him. Still have not pulled the trigger for blue sky, which means I am found on zero social media platforms. Oh, wow. Yeah. Still. Still. Look at you.
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for my for my answer here and i and like last week i talked about general crete the goblin soldier who's definitely going in my zada deck but yeah see um yeah i've talked about that card so much you talked about her last week as well but i think this week for for something new to talk about and to lead into some of the fun Melvos, Vorthos, flavor conversations that we're planning to do this this episode. I'm going to talk about Takeo, the patient avalanche, who might be the game's first Ninja Turtle, I'm not sure.
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And then we got one in common. and got our the Yeah. Perfect. That's right. That's right. Of course we did. yeah their yeah Yet another Ninja Turtle who in the art clearly has Shredder's little spiky arm pad thing, which is kind of fun.
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but this so big so the This creature, four, five, three to blue, enters tapped. But what is really interesting to me is the the middle text here. Whenever another creature you control leaves the battlefield, if it didn't die, scry one and put a plus one, plus one counter to KO. Also, when it attacks, you may pay blue or black hybrid, a blue-black hybrid. When you do, target attacking creature can't be blocked this turn.
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but when it That's both ninjutsu enabler and a ninjutsu payoff. Yes, so that is cool like A.N. fits as a ninja which is fun, but like the the idea of the the the middle one. like there's a Ninjitsu is a good way to pay that off because it it isn't specifically ninjitsu. Anytime a creature leaves, if it didn't die, you blink your creature, scry, get a 1-1 counter. Other things, is like bounce your own creature, scry, get a 1-1 counter. so like That's the kind of engine thing that I don't know that I'll build this because I'd love to have white in that type of nonsense.
Goblins Across the Multiverse
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but
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Still, this is enough that I'll probably pull a Scryfall search for Blue Black Commander for certain keywords and see if I can find a critical mass of cards I'm interested in that do that play with that text. Cool. Yeah, there are some fun stuff just both mechanically and flavor wise here in this set. So ah we've called out some of it before. um we you know as we've been going we're kind of getting new versions of legends um We get a lot of planes represented, which is one of the things that it used to be kind of the thing about corsets is. um Well, at one point it was like they didn't have planes to them. I mean, well, they they don't. Sorry, but that was why they had some weird things where. Yeah, well, and you had.
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There was a bit of a transition. You had the early ones that didn't have planes, really. Then they sort of retrofit a plane, like Alpha's kind of got turned into Dominario. But then when they did the with the core sets with Core Set in the name,
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those did have a plane those were specifically chandelar right well they did that didn't mean they printed cards from any plane though um yeah but yeah they did print a lot of cards like so the chandelar slivers were in one of the sets that's true the new cards in the core set were from chandelar but they also printed cards from all over the place yeah that's right Because because they had like, you'd have like, that was one things that that when they went to, they wanted more ah neutral wording. So they wanted things like, um you know, like Council of Suratami that came from Kamagawa, they wanted like divination for it, right? Like, you wanted ways to make it not that. Well, with this, they've decided, no, we're just going to have flavor and show you things from across a lot of planes, like we're just going to cross a lot of planes and tying
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Oh, frames. Yeah. yeahp Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If y'all don't mind me jumping right in on that, one of them I had has several cards because I just I wanted to point out a that whole thing that you're talking about that there's there's cards from all over
Unique Mechanics in New Cards
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the planes. But we have goblins from five different planes represented between the base set and jumpstart that I saw in like the new cards. And I just realized I didn't flip through all the old cards to to see that.
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But we had, and I won't talk about the specific cards, but I just want to name drop all of these. And if we want to talk about these cards, we can kind of do that. But there's goblin borders who are from Ixalan. We have goblin negotiation that was taking place on Ravnica, specifically namedrops Cranko.
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We have Seer Slicer that takes place on Kamagawa. In Jumpstart, there was the Dropkick Bomber that's on Zendikar. And the Goblin Surprise that has both a Tarkir or that has a Mardu and Teamer goblins from Tarkir.
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And so we have five very physically different goblins represented in the art, which is cool to kind of show, especially goblins. There's a few other, uh, a different creature types that are represented like this with goblins. Wait, which five, which five, because I want to make sure I'm not forgetting any. Ixalan, Ravnica, Kamagawa, Zendikar, and Tarkir are the five that I saw. Okay.
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OK, those were. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But those are all like very divergent from each other like goblins in particular. Well, I think goblins have more foreign variety than any other creature type in magic. I think so. And that's why I was trying to go through. I was like because I was even as you were saying that Alex, like I was trying to keep track of all of them because, you know, we have we have ah monkeys. Well, like sorry. Blue goblins.
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ah ah Blue monkey furry goblins. We have ah Yeah, the the Krenko one. Yeah, and I mean, I think even then I don't and I don't know where we're at in terms of I was trying to think about this of where we were in terms of um within Dominaria are there, you know, that we have different. And I don't know if we got differences here. Dominarian ones look pretty much like the Ravnican ones. Yeah, they do. But like you came from wrath. Right. That's what I was trying to think. I didn't think we I wasn't. I didn't think we got any more. There's still mugs in current day Ravnica. I'm actually not sure. You mean current day and Dominaria. im Sorry, that's the one. Yeah. Yeah. Current day Dominaria.
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Sorry, good bless it is a very good question. I don't know. princes Yeah. But yeah, so goblins just well represented and. I mean, it's nice, right? Like, because we're going to because this is what's going to be quote unquote standard for the next.
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Yeah, and but it's it's also being built, particularly some of the the side products around it, but it's being particularly framed as a new player entry point. which so there's a few and And as we get further into the episode, there's a few things on my list where I'm specifically talking about kind of like you know new players' first instance of this sort of mechanic that that's interesting.
Teaching Mechanics with New Cards
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All right, well, I guess I will go next. um I ah picked one that I thought was it's, you know, not Not surprising for me of doing these episodes, but I picked a common removal spell, ah which is stab, because it's just an instant target creature gets minus two, minus two until end of turn, which is exactly what the enchantment stab wound does. Yes. Plus getting the two damage turn on the wound, but this one just gives you, you get a quick stab, but... ah
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Perfect. That's so good. It's not. a It's so. Yeah, it's not. It's nots another one word card name, too. I'm really surprised this card name was still available. Do you know? Sorry, my brain just just because this is I love one name card names. ah There's a couple other ones in here that are really good. um But the fact that dissuade is not a counterspell. There's not a counterspell just named dissuade.
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Sorry, this came up recently for me. It'll it'll happen eventually because they're running out of. ah They're running out of. Yeah, sending them to saying no. No. Yeah. that's We got a different one of those in this set. Yeah. You can bring that one up after you get something else. Refute. Yeah. Yeah. Refute.
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It took me a moment. was going to bring up a different one word one, but yes. I almost missed that this was a new card. I honestly thought that this was just a reprint. And then I went, wait, no, that's not canceled. That's not, you know, whatever
Speculation on New Card Cycles
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the other one, just three mana counters that are, you know, generic blue, blue counter target spell. Yeah. Plus slight effect. No, this is a new one. Dissipate. Yep. That's another one. No, I was thinking a bolt wave.
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So Bolt Wave is one word, but but but what's cool is it's actually, it's this cool mechanic that is, so, okay, Bolt Wave is one red, deals three damage to each opponent, which is another lava spike. And it has Ralzeric flavor on it. ah So it does give like flavor text from Ralzeric about basically taming a storm. But why I like this is it shows the difference between how a card can be functionally similar, but be different, right? So it's another lava spike. Like theoretically this could take, you can now have lava spike, whatever, you know, four through or eight through. Yeah. Five through eight in burn, but it has that each opponent clause to it, which means you could play it in EDH. So you can kind of see how the differences might be there. Cause you could play it in something like under hebed deck where it is actually, it's like one manna get yourself nine.
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mana later right because you dealt nine damage so the differences in that is very fascinating to me of including a card that within the set it you know it's ah it's meant for standard but it has that overlap and so I like the mechanical differences between this and like a lava spike both still being sorceries both still being you know it's just yeah yeah no i i like that a lot i didn't i didn't catch that i think that's that's that's super cool to have those the cards on the set that help players to think about think about the game differently yeah you know so especially if you're a new player you've never played a card game like this not card games are a lot more common now than when magic first came out but if you've never played a game like this you
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you don't necessarily understand or haven't wrapped your header out. You can actually understand, but don't necessarily wrap your header on how card values can change in different contexts. I mean, we talk about it a lot. In Commanders specifically, where different Commanders can make cards. I talk about it a lot because Feather and Zada, two decks that we each have, are like that, where suddenly a combat trick is one of the most powerful cards in the deck.
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It it other has almost no value in Commander outside of like those two very specific decks or things that do what those two decks do. Yeah, and sort of on that um and that line, I want to talk about a card from Jumpstart, Shroofus Sproutsire, which is just A, just the the best name and fantastic art. So it's got good flavor there, including flavor text. His laughter and everything else about him was infectious, talking about this mushroom person.
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But it's a, so just to read the card, a two green for a one-one legendary saproling with trample. Whenever a saproling you control deals combat damage to a player, create that many one-one saproling creature tokens. So A, saprolings, it's like keying off of itself. It makes saprolings, saproling, and then those saprolings can make saprolings. But it's a one-one with trample wasn't a that has an ability that keys off of its power.
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with no way to pump it on the card. So this is very specifically a card to teach you how to start thinking about the way your cards interact with each other and put cards in that enable this to pump its power, to do more damage, to make more sapperlings and to just build an engine.
Planeswalkers and Game Mechanics
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So I don't know if this fits in here, but I was thinking I liked all the the anime arts because it's all on new legendaries. But I have to admit that one card had me already one like I started playing grammar with it, which is the red mayor of destiny.
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Because it's a Pegasus that has flying and lifelink and whenever you cast a Pegasus unicorn or horse creature spell copy it and then it says other pegasi unicorn and horses you control get plus one plus one and and I am still Really could not get a consensus answer on if it should be pegasi or Pegasus since Oh, see, I thought it was pegasi, but that's because of a weird relatively early YouTube video from like 15 years ago that just said pegasi. It's a, it's a strange thing. Well, that's where I got that plural. Sorry. Yeah. Cause I, I always know of it as like the classic example of being octopuses is actually more correct than octopi, but both are theoretically correct. But I just thought it was really funny that I also thought that Pegasus might also be a word like moose that was already plural. The language is theoretically correct. Yes, just what I do um But but this one and then next to it another new one is that there is a named a Johnny's pride mate So I like this take so we've been kind of looking at ah so we have the remaining returning five planes walkers So from a flavor perspective, I think that's neat because we got the five planes walkers But they're also not necessarily the five that we've had
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historically right it's it's not the the like the og just og5 straight up yeah well jace is off being a villain so we got kaido instead yeah yeah well and we also got um vivian vivian vivian has replaced garouk for a long time in the corset so but it's just sad like I guess the set still is making me ask, where's Garak, right? like Yeah. like Yeah. I mean, we haven't seen him since the original L drain set. It's like, what what's what's the man been up to? What? You know, there's a fire exit invasion, but no, but I do like that that we got Koala, a Johnny's pride mate. Yeah, I was going to mention this one, too. So yeah. So I'll let you take it with the with the. Yeah. So.
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You know, we've got, ah she does exactly what the generic card of Johnny's Pride make does, which is whenever you gain life, you put a plus one, plus one counter on her. And she's a little bit bigger, but she also has a way to gain life herself. And then um it's, ah sorry, I lost that one for a second.
Representation of Female Goblins
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So yeah, whenever you gain life, you put a counter on her, but then when she attacks,
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other attacking creatures you control get plus X plus zero. Okay. Yeah, that was all right. Yeah. I was still looking for the card. I had closed that window, apparently. So, yeah. So, yeah. So she buffs your whole team. She's just she's just basically ah a legendary take on a Johnny's pride mate. Yeah. So i I really like that. That was another one of those like flavor with the abilities on the card itself. And like you said, being able to give ah with herself right that looks femme yeah it definitely does uh that you gain that you have the ability to gain a life to kind of trigger so speaking of ladies we have multiple lady legendary goblins because both general crete and zada yes
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And they both have an unambiguous ah flavor text ah but to go along with that, just to make sure. But yeah, that that that we have two lady goblins. I love legendary lady goblins. That's sorry. Yeah, there's not nearly enough of them. They keep making in them and there wouldn't be enough of them. But yes. Yeah. All right. Well.
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um Do you want to go next, Alex? It's been a little while since you've been going. Yeah, yeah, I can go. um So I'm going to go one that I just finished parsing the art, even though I've been looking at this Scryfall thing for three episodes of this podcast.
Plagueon, Lord of the Beach Mechanics
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I'm going to talk about Plagueon, Lord of the Beach.
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Okay. um Mechanically is fine. is it's It's a mechanic that I'm not super interested in, but i'm it's a cool representation of this. So 0-3 for Tuna Blue, when it enters the battlefield draw card for each creature you control with toughness greater than its power.
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and then has an activation that's a hybrid white-blue target creature. You control a science combat data but damage equal to its toughness rather than its power at this turn. So this is usually in green. So it's kind of fun to see this outside of green. White has it a lot. Every so often we'd see it within blue. So it's kind of nice to have a white-blue ah legend that does this. But its just I just realized while we're recording this that this legend is a legendary creature, starfish wizard. Yeah.
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Yeah. And the art is a starfish wearing a jellyfish for a hat to make it look like a wizard hat riding on a turtle and its flavor text is no more lurking in the shallows we ride. And this might be my favorite card in the set now. Nice. Yeah, that's a pretty good package there. The art is really cool. All right. I'm going to go with a ah
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one of the the kind of cards that I really enjoy. um And those are deck can have any number of them. And there's one from the set is heir apparent. Yes. And ah this is the it's a ah two two for two that when a creature enters create a number of one one white rabbit creatures tokens equal to the number of other creatures you control named heir apparent. And then a deck may have any number of cards in heir apparent.
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This is amazing. Yes. Yeah, so I I was trying to figure out what I was gonna do with this card um and I decided I'd also just happened to be I picked up a sketched artist proof of This card recently too. So it's gonna I'm gonna make a kadira collar of the small deck with these guys in them. Yes So you still need these seven copies I have sitting here for you. Yeah I'm gonna need a lot more. ah And for those who don't remember, Kadira is a 3-3-4-1 in Selesnya with Trample, and whenever she deals combat damage to a player, for each token you control, create a 1-1 white rabbit creature token. So she'll double all of your rabbits.
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every time she deals combat damage. That deck is a lot of breeding. Yeah. A lot. That's awesome. Yeah. I ah had this note in in my notes for this card, and the note for it just said Arpan's Milthos.
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Yeah. Because if you didn't if you didn't catch the pun, the creature's name is hair. H. A. R. E. A different word for rabbit hair apparent, obviously, but also referencing the air apparent, which is a nobility thing because this creature is also a rabbit noble. line Yeah. Come on. Come on. Common. Common. I sorry. Now we're getting the rant because this means that we have a common Yet somehow, somehow, Goblin King is Goblin King not noble.
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Just neat need this thrown out here. Goblin goblin King is not noble. The flavor text on this card is, ah most families have trees. His has an entire forest.
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ah And with how many rabbits I'm going to make with that deck, I think that's going to apply there. Definitely. Yes. but Yes. You know, Goblin King should have been a noble a long time ago. Mm hmm. Long time. Long time. I'm just saying.
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All right. Absolutely. Do you have a do you have a card to end the rant so you can talk about? Well, I did. I did not have. I'm going to just keep ranting. But I wanted to go back to plug on. Play gone. Oh, yes. I ended up like top 16 in a CEDH tournament. This weekend, it's like somebody had come out with it. Yeah, like built a deck around it for CEDH. And that card did amazing. So, yeah.
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I wanted to go with Erebo, the first fang. So this is something that the flavor text in particular, so we've had Erebo, which was green
Erebo's Connection to Cats
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white. um But this plays off of, I believe we talked about this briefly previously, but about like the er dragon, which is the fact that Erebo is called the first fang. And it is also said that all cats in the multiverse trace their lineage back to him.
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From the meekest kitten to the mightiest lion. So this is just one of those like really awesome I think takes on a oh, yeah, this absolutely will be going in my Miri deck Yeah, ah and of course Aravo is in that deck and and ah the original one and it's one of the best carts in that deck It turns out ah His Eminence ability is good even if he's not a commander. That is factually correct, yes. yeah ah But yeah, so Erebol coming there and then right along with that is Sire of the Seven Deaths, which is a 7-7 Eldrazi for seven with seven keywords.
Sire of the Seven Deaths Mechanics
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And it says born of the infinite void between realities. The Eldrazi have one goal, which is to consume. So this one just plays on the number seven. Yeah, I was really disappointed. There's only six syllables in the card name. Oh,
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Oh, now it's bothering me. Maybe somebody speaks with a really weird just twang or something and it wizards. Sorry, it was a perfect card, but now it's just ruined for me. Okay. Well, to to help the palate cleanser of that terrible flavor fail, I would like to talk about Strix Lookout.
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which is a bird that is probably going to go in my Ishae Vile Smasher deck if I ever put that back together, which is actually just a Dovescape deck. But um this is just a bird, one and a blue for a one, two with flying and vigilance.
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but it has blue one tap draw card to discard a card. So just nice to have some looting to kind of keep things going. But also ah the flavor text wise, watchful, fashionable, which is perfect because in the art, ah this owl is wearing just a very fashionable helmet with little goggles. And it's perfect. Yeah. It's a really cool take on the loot ability too, I will say.
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um so Yeah, the next one I want to talk about is Rite of the Dragoncaller. ah And this is a six mana enchantment ah that does something very simple, but a Feather is going to love it. Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, create a 5-5 red dragon creature token with flying.
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ah Just what I want to do having more giant fliers to go wide in that deck that I can cast ah spells on. And this just makes them doing for her doing the thing I'm going to be doing anyways. So I will almost always have a one mana spell I can cast immediately after casting this to make sure I get at least one dragon off of it.
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Yeah, that's that's on the list for for Zata probably as well. Also yeah but instances are streets. Yeah, so many. And I have a decent number of them that give haste in that deck too. That could be that could be real fun. Um,
00:29:21
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So but my next one is actually, it's the question of like, this this is one of those things that's like, what makes a cycle? So it's Blasphemous Edict. So it is a play off of Blasphemous Act, at least so far. ah it it It has a cost reduction based on more of, except it needs to have at least 13 of something to be able to deal the damage. So Blasphemous Act just costs less than you could do.
00:29:49
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your take on it, but you have the ah the the simple fact of the matter is that you had the um ah You did 13 damage. This makes everybody sacrifice 13 creatures. So it is yeah it is a lot more permanent. It is way better. It is. I mean, it is. Well, outside of exceptions of things like stuffing all effects where you want to deal damage. I mean, obviously it's not just straight up better, but it's good. um The question though is, is so is this part of a cycle now? I. i Maybe when when when you have one, it's an nice in isolation. As soon as you have two, people are going to start asking for it. I mean, look at the swords from Mirrodin. Yes. Yeah. So like that, I thought about that. Right. Like then, you know, even if it's not, people are going to be asking for it. Yeah. Well, at this what is it now? Yeah. At this point in time, though, we're kind of at a point in the game's history where the developers would probably do this intentionally.
00:30:47
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And I think the only other color you could do this in would be um would be ah white, because blue and green don't get mass creature. I mean, blue could be bounce all creatures, I guess. but Blue could be bounce. Yeah, it could be bounce. Green doesn't get destroy all creature effects, though. So that would be hard to have a green one. That's what I was trying to think of. Like, what would be green's take on this? Because I think you you could, I just don't know what it would be yet. Yeah, by all creatures. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, that could be a way to do it. Turn them all into something specific into a different creature type or token. Because this white could be exile. Yeah, yeah, right. Like white can be exile. Blue could be bounce green is the weird one.
00:31:44
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Yeah, but no, that's a good call. Let's say like the elk version is is probably the only thing that elk and elking creatures like turning them into a creature token. I know. Well, elking is more keeping an enchantment on him, I guess it'd be like, beasting them or would be stimul to it to yeah, well, i wait that's what I like pongify because I like or ovenize. Yeah, let's get real old overnight sheep. Yeah. Yeah, those were those were the older versions with that has been more in green lately. Yes.
00:32:20
Speaker
Yeah, Oko just created tokens, that's right. Yeah, then there but then there was the Kenris transformation, which actually turned something into a 3-3-0. Yeah, I mean, and that's what he did within the story, but... Yeah, exactly. The card was a little different. Well, yeah. His original card actually did. Anyway, sorry, go ahead.
00:32:43
Speaker
Well, my next one is going to be ah in the same line as my last one. It is another red enchantment. but ah It is 2 and a red for Frontline Heroism, which is an enchantment that when it enters a battlefield, you get a 1-1 Soldier creature with haste.
Token Creation and Spell Copying
00:33:02
Speaker
Okay, no piggy, but whenever you cast the spell, it targets only a single creature you control. Create a Soldier token and copy that spell. This copy targets on that token. So again, this is a perfect card for Feather or Zada, where it just makes more fodder for you.
00:33:19
Speaker
and gives you more copies of your spells, that you ah well more copies for Zada and copies for um ah Feather.
00:33:31
Speaker
ah Well I was wondering Alex, speaking of red spells that do certain specific things, ah bulk up. Yes. Also, ah also as auto card. Yep. Yeah. I was gonna say, did we have this? Did you have this down bulk up? I i have it. I had that. Yeah.
00:33:49
Speaker
I, I love the fact that this card has, um, ah it is a goblin. So already we're off to a good start. Um, but it is a goblin, uh, art where you, uh, I saw somebody said that, uh, he skips leg day. Uh, he just, yeah, yeah top and the, the, the, uh, flavor texts is North would win the arm wrestling contest this year at any cost, but it doubles a target creatures power until end of turn.
00:34:17
Speaker
Yes, and it's an instant, so in Zada that reads one and a red, double all of your creature's power. Yeah. Yes, it does. In Feather it reads somebody's dying of commander damage this turn. Yes, it does.
00:34:33
Speaker
hear Yep. These are all things that are true. Yes. and And looking at my notes. Sorry, you finished this and then. No, that was it. and i was fine okay Okay. This was one of those cards that like I also had in our goblin because I was trying to figure out this. Let us get ah another plane. yeah but Yeah. It does look a lot like a Dominarian. I thought it looked Dominarian. Yeah.
00:34:58
Speaker
laura
00:35:01
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, there's there's a lot um that that are kind of in that that look.
Flavor Text and Lore Integration
00:35:07
Speaker
They'll create just Calvinists a little more bat looking ears. So I don't know if that's a different goblin species or not. But I think your I think your count was wildly off Alex.
00:35:16
Speaker
Well, I think it's it was at least five wildly. But we're at least at seven. Speaking of speaking of flavor text, I realized we missed the one of the reasons I wrote for blasphemous edict down in my notes. Oh, yeah, yeah, Liliana flavor text. Referencing the packs. A demonic pack is all fun and games until the bill comes due, which is great. It's perfect for for the story of her story. I really like this too because um it made me think of something from ah we talked about like right the purpose of the set being that it's going to be to teach people right and and and ways that they're going to be able to get exposed to things. This made me think of a this is a really let's go way back in the podcast. ah Alex, do you remember when I back in the day ah when I did the episode with
00:36:07
Speaker
um Hunter Pence, the baseball player. And what he talked about was he had really only ever played um on he like he had only really ever played this game based off of Arena. And so he was only learning like I was asking him questions about you know like I did a lore based question like which which character would be the base baseball player and he was like I don't know right he's just like I don't i't know this is another example of like he was like well I could see that I get some information off of art or flavor text like
00:36:39
Speaker
This is one of those ones that I think of that's similar that you were getting information about a demonic pact. So yeah you can go then and learn more about. Yes. and And this is a character who is also in the set. There is a Liliana vest card in this set that someone can pull and then find this flavor text from her.
00:37:01
Speaker
which is is cool to have that attribution to start to make those connections. And obviously we have you know a bunch of cards with attributions to other other characters, some that are in the set, some that aren't. I see Skyship Buccaneer has Kari Zev flavor tags. And so there's characters who who aren't present, but it's it's cool to have those ones who are. It speaks to a wider world, right? right Yeah, exactly. it it's like it it is a Once again, if we're thinking about this as we've been talking about it, is what the purpose of the the actual like set is.
00:37:29
Speaker
Yeah, it and by having some that are characters who are in the set, some are not. It speaks to that water world, while also kind of giving you some of those connections where you can go, hey, this is this is this card I, you know, this mythic rare I pulled out of a booster pack. Isn't that cool that there's this reference here? Yes. Yep.
00:37:49
Speaker
right So those are just things that I'm like that, you know, like, you know, this is like how it's bringing new players on to the, to the sets basically. Speaking of, of new players, I got the question for you all about this card. So it's green, black in foundations warden of the cycle.
Teaching Strategic Choices
00:38:05
Speaker
Ah, yeah. So looking at this, um well, just read the card and then i ask my question. So it's one black, green, green for a three, four elf warlock with morbid. At the beginning of your end step, if a creature died this turn, choose one. You gain two life, or you draw a card and lose a life.
00:38:23
Speaker
So i my suspicion about this is a like that Draw a Card and Lose a Life is so almost always going to be the right choice, unless you have a very specific engine. But I wonder if this has ah has the gain to life choice, because new players love life gain. name And this gives them an opportunity to learn tock to draw a card and lose a life without feeling like they're going to fall behind, because then they can turn it to life gain later if they yes yeahp they feel like they need it.
00:38:54
Speaker
Yeah, so that's it's, it's, it is a very good learning card to realize that, you know, life is a resource and the card is worth way more than a life or even three life in this point because it's kind of a three life swing, whether you pick one over the other. Yeah. Yeah. Card is worth a lot more than a healing self.
00:39:19
Speaker
Yeah. um ah Sorry. are we are i Sorry, my brain, it's already jumped into the next card that I was going to talk about. All right. Well, I'll go first and then you can. OK, you do that. I got one. Yeah. i'm ah that This one's from the special guest, which is the the reprint only one.
Art Appreciation: Akroma's Memorial
00:39:40
Speaker
I'm going with the reprint of a Chroma's Memorial because it's just purely on the art. This is an absolutely beautiful stained glass. I would.
00:39:49
Speaker
piece of art by ah Carly Mazur, who did a lot of the stained glass art in Dominaria United. This this ah card is stunning in person. She does that style art and ah yeah, it's really good. And I just recently, well, they just put up the auction for the stained glass Rada from Dominaria United and I was lucky enough to win it. So I'm going to have a stained glass ah art on my wall. um And one of my favorite characters, I love Rada. ah She's so cool. um But yeah, I just did this. It's, it's a great card. It's good to see even though it's a limited scope reprint, since it's on special guests. It's still always good to see this one reprinted.
00:40:40
Speaker
the ah And this one's got new flavor text, ah those who do evil shall face wrath unrelenting its a memorial inscription in one of the versions of Akroma's Archangel of Wrath.
00:40:55
Speaker
great
00:40:58
Speaker
So I wanted to bring up a very much a um ah card that is that the card that the reason I'm bringing up this card is because of a mechanical play on something that we kind of have seen, um which is simply ley line acts.
Ley Line Acts and New Mechanics
00:41:17
Speaker
So we have an equipment. Yeah, you talked about this a little bit last week. Oh, but this is this is the this is a completely different version of what we've seen from the other ley lines. Yes, it is ah an equipment that comes in for free and you can begin the game with it. It's so strong, but just ah ah yeah, I forgot that I had talked about it. That's how my brain ah works. But yes, well then.
00:41:41
Speaker
That's all. I just love this card. I love, I love different takes on things. So a similar one is scrawling crawler, which is a take on psychosis crawler, except that's a little bit psychosis crawler basically, but it's also a fire actually. And it's a mini like fire exe and arena. So at the beginning of your, except it's weird, the beginning of your upkeep, each player draws a card. And then whenever an opponent draws, they lose a life.
00:42:08
Speaker
Yeah, it has the Nekusar text on it. So that's the Nekusar. Yeah. um And it's it's, yeah, I'm glad Nekuzar isn't very popular anymore because this card would be dumb in that deck.
00:42:27
Speaker
um But there is also, and this ah this is that that take of the the what we're bringing from Flavorwise, I already saw a Vorthos person pulling out their translation guide to try to figure out the wall scroll here.
00:42:41
Speaker
for a Scrawling Crawler. And ah both artworks have different Phyrexian text in it. because there's an alternate take art on it that also has basically like a diamond. No, what is that? six Excited hexagons that have fire, actually, and scroll on it as well. So it is this thing of like that. This is that this is where you make a set that is both going to make new people excited, but also is going to be a way to hopefully like keep your core audience happy. Now I need to know what it says. They're working on it. So.
00:43:17
Speaker
so Fun. um To go to something that I don't like. um that I'm going to talk about fishing pole. ah oh ah so So let me read the card and then I'll circle back to why I don't like this. um So it is a equipment artifact for for one generic meta. um It has, a quick creature has one generic tap fishing pole, put a bait counter on fishing pole. Whenever a quick creature becomes untapped, remove a bait counter from this equipment. When you do create a one-one blue fish token, equip two. I thought, oh, this is kind of a fun little thing. and
00:43:56
Speaker
it's It's a very mechanically... This is a very metal card. It is mechanically resonant with what it is doing. like the The mechanic fits that flavor. I say i guess more of a full Malthus thing there. Because this fishing pole is putting bait on it. Then you're getting fish from that. it's I like that. But the bait is being removed. But then I realized that you equip this to a creature. And I read this text again.
Criticism of Confusing Mechanics
00:44:23
Speaker
the activation is tapping the equipment that is equipped to a creature and I think that is a bad idea just in general but particularly in a new in a new player set. We don't really tap equipment. There might be one before that has but most don't for the same reason that they don't tap enchantments because it's confusing to have a thing attached to a different to a creature and have the creature be untapped, but the equipment or the attached card be tapped. And it's weird. And I don't like that. That's fair. That is fair. that is fair I love that.
00:45:08
Speaker
The next card I'm going to talk about is is one I picked just because I'm kind of selfish. ah It's another common, it's another combat trick, but this one's not going in feather because it's not very good. ah But that's Hearts on Fire, ah which is new card with Helena and Elena art on it. ah And also really good flavor text says with you by my side, I am unstoppable. ah So I love our Innistrad lesbians are back for another visit. I was lucky enough to win this art too. So I'm going to have, I'm going to have some. ah You like this set is what I'm hearing. Yeah. Well, the other one was from Dominaria United. It just went up for auction now. Oh, okay. Okay. That's what I did. Yeah. Yeah. ah But, uh,
00:46:01
Speaker
No, this one, you know, I'm just glad to get more representation from them on cards, you know, and it's necessarily something that's, you know, it's, it's jumpstart, but it's still targeted for the the
Diverse Representation in Art
00:46:13
Speaker
new players. And you get to see some of that representation and magic on cards that new players are going to be seeing. Yep. Yeah. And their, um, their Innistrad Crimson Valkard is in the the main set.
00:46:26
Speaker
It is. Oh yeah. I just happened to notice I was flipping through and I was like, I think this was in here somewhere. And so I just did a quick search. Yeah. In the main set. Oh, yeah, I wasn't paying attention to many of them. Yeah, same thing. There's a lot of reprints. There's some really good reprints that I'm happy about, both for new players and just in general to get more copies of the game. ah Yeah, that's a little less relevant to the conversation we were going to have. So yeah, yeah, I was gonna say because I was like thinking it about well, i you know, it's kind of ah one of them is relevant, which is Liliana Dreadhorde Captain, or Dreadhorde General, because
00:47:02
Speaker
It's that weird thing, right? Like we got two, so they, they brought back five planes, walkers to get new cards. Three don't. So I thought that was kind of an interesting split that they're all returning planes, walkers, but like Dredhor general needed a reprint. I mean, like I would say Ajani probably did, but like the Vivian, the Ajani and the Liliana, but Kaido and Chandra are brand new.
00:47:31
Speaker
I don't know. I didn't even notice that either. Yeah. And the Chandra one is pretty sweet, but it's a seven drop planeswalker. Just right. Just so. Which it's good. But if I'm going to spend seven man on something, I want something that is like Carter Ogin good. Especially if we're talking about this being for standard. Right. Like this. Yeah. At this point, that that that means that this is the whole thing. These will be legal for at least five years and.
00:47:58
Speaker
I don't see a seven mana Chandra. That's that scene play. Yeah. which is kind of a bummer versus, and like, I guess you could say the same Liliana is six, but yeah it's got a static ability as well. Well, that Liliana has been one of the best printings of Liliana ever. Yes, and it's a static ability. I mean, it also can immediately kill a bunch of stuff on board. So can this Chandra, but then she's down to two. Yes. And that Liliana draws you cards when it kills, when you use the sacrifice ability, so. Yes.
00:48:33
Speaker
um And Kaido also has a static ability which is kind of cool because it is teaching players about what static abilities are on planes walkers. Yeah. I really do want to put Chandra in my Riku deck though just because her plus one makes a copy of a creature. ah And that means exactly what I want to be doing in Rico.
00:48:56
Speaker
ah The so one that I was thinking of in terms of like when a player may experience this is they may experience this coming off of the recent sets.
Continuity with Recent Sets
00:49:07
Speaker
um And so it's kind of interesting that they pulled forward things like banner of kinship, which has a very Bloomberg style feel to it because you want those players because we don't have blocks. Did you all know this? We don't have blocks anymore.
00:49:19
Speaker
um So like for a lot of these these are things that we may not revisit for quite a while, mechanic wise as well as characters. And so to see, okay, we're trying to show you all that there is this once again, I guess wider world, but like, here's Simone who you just saw in Duck's Morn. Now she's sculpting. But also there's the banner of kinship, like you say, like goes right into bloom into a bunch of bloom borrowed X.
00:49:46
Speaker
If you're if you have a mouse deck because of Mabel or whatever banner kinship goes right into that deck. Go right into the rabbit deck, right? yeah You know, so um it's a very interesting. Also, a banner of kinship is a kind of an interesting difference with door of destinies. So door of destinies is it's it's really so they do similar things in that they buff your creatures based on. Creatures you control already.
00:50:15
Speaker
or creatures you control, sorry. um But like, Door of Destinies comes down and does nothing, but theoretically keeps getting stronger as it keeps going. Banner comes down and gets a fellowship for the number of creatures you have on the board, so it gets it right away if you play it. But you need to play it into a board that's built up versus Door of Destinies you don't. So I think that's, again, that learning thing I saw. if You see very little of Door of Destinies anymore because it is a five-mana artifact that Can do nothing. Nothing. Yeah. Until you build it up. Yeah. Versus dropping this into. so Yeah. So speaking of do nothing, I'd like to talk about basic lands. Nice transition, Alex. That might be maybe be one of your best in a while.
00:51:05
Speaker
Thank you, I appreciate that. So um I noticed, did y'all notice that these 10 full art basic clans feature the five planeswalkers and five mono colored legendary creatures? I had not looked on them yet, but yes, this is really cool. On different planes. Yeah, all on different planes. Yeah. um It took me a little while to find one of them. um Unfortunately, the forest with the monolith is not about that monolith. It's about who's open the tree. so
00:51:34
Speaker
probably because he got kicked up there like he deserves. And then and then there's Kellen on a horse because of course there's Kellen on a horse with his cowboy get up on um the non Chandra Mountain but oh well. The Liliana one is amazing. Yes. and And that Kaito Island is so good looking. The funny part about the forest one is that one got brought up in the bullish chat today.
00:52:01
Speaker
Because at first it looks very, well, and it still could be, it's very Amonkhet themed. It does kind of look like that. So somebody was, ah I think it was Andre Garcia was talking about going out and buying a bunch until he found loot in the art.
00:52:14
Speaker
um
00:52:18
Speaker
But yeah, I
Full Art Basic Lands and Thematic Elements
00:52:19
Speaker
would. Yeah, if I was building a zombie deck though, that Liliana Swamp would be my land of choice right now. So good. And these are 10, and it's all 10 different planes too, which is, I really like the, I like the, um Tiny bones in the marshes the tiny bones one is nice, too But I don't know the Liliana one would just be for a zombie deck. Oh, yeah, di so perfect Well, the the the the Johnny one is perfect for a cat neck. I mean, yeah, like there I actually might have to replay y'all replace all the basics in the cat deck with yeah that um ah Yeah, no, these are really good
00:53:01
Speaker
I had not even looked at the lands because they've just gotten so common now. I yeah really want to know what plane Chandra is supposed to be on. It looks almost like Radia from the building. Oh, yeah. But I don't know what the symbols on the mountains. Just would be wild.
00:53:22
Speaker
oh Yeah, i' I'm trying to see if anybody said anything about the plane. I would have to guess. Yeah, I'm sure there's, there's some much more knowledgeable Vorthos folks out there than myself, who are going to be able to find a lot more information than me looking at these, but. Yeah. I don't think Raviya has giant mountains so that the city looks correct, but the rest of the background doesn't. This is a desert plain.
00:53:54
Speaker
Although it does look sort of deserty in the foreground. So who knows? Oh, our buddy Tiny Bones is back. I love Tiny Bones. Yeah. ah I already have mentioned this one again, but I am going to point out that preposterous proportions, the alt version has ah
Humor and Whimsical Art Styles
00:54:16
Speaker
a... um ah Call back to two previous flavor taxes, which ah well well no sorry a callback to a flavor text and then a callback to an art so the original art would have been
00:54:30
Speaker
Hyloponorus Lemur which does now have updated art but originally the the best story ever in magic in my opinion is that it has it is meant to be this malevolent spirit the artist Richard Thomas did not know this he drew a lemur with wings because you could give the card flying and negative one zero and he drew a lemur when it was meant to be a lemur And then they followed this up with flavor text on visit lemures in time spiral that said lemurs. Is that all finally something harmless? buddy Nor in the wary. And then now we get preposterous proportions, which actually has like life's like, like, like kaiju size lemurs. And the flavor text is, I think you mean giant lemures, a type of malevolent spirit that Oh God, what is that?
00:55:24
Speaker
Uriah, the smug last so good. Yeah, I love that version. I mean, the one with the squirrels on it is going to go in my Tuftsky deck. But but that I like that version. I mean, much better I love that. This is literally something that is from Ice Age. We are now carrying forward of a thing from Ice Age. So like this is a deep, deep cut. Oh, oh, and it's one of my favorites.
00:55:52
Speaker
Hobbes, there is actually another reference within the the reprint of Hylopter's Lemur. It has Norn the Wary Flame Protects saying, I was wrong, not harmless at all. What?
00:56:06
Speaker
Yeah, Dominar, so it's like as refer, it's so cool. but Again, this is that's not why we love the Vorthos stuff so much. Yeah, yeah, I did not realize that the new version of the the reprint from Dominar, how it remastered, of an Ice Age card. yeah Oh my gosh, see? Yeah. But that's one of my favorite stories of all time of magic. I have said it on this show before, but when that dropped and I saw that flavor text,
00:56:35
Speaker
Yeah, outside of being bummed that it wasn't nor in the wary just because I would love we haven't had a good noran reference in a while. I mean, we actually got him in a second. It's not enough. Yeah. um This is like one of those ah like Simpson things. It's like whenever noran is not on stage, everybody should be asking where noran is. Yeah. Yeah, just a lot because it's noran. So he's not on stage. He's disappearing.
00:57:02
Speaker
Speaking of silly things though, my next pick is another common. It is a Big Fin Bouncer, ah which is 3 in a blue for a 3-2 when an ET beads return a creature and opponent controls to its owner's hand. But this has some really classic um ah just whimsical style art, like the the the look of the guy in the back of the ship in the painting just almost reminds me of the same art style that sounds like Recycle from Tetris. It looks like Foglio. I was about to say it looks like Recycle. It does look like Foglio art. That's exactly what, yeah. Yeah.
00:57:38
Speaker
It's really funny because as soon as you start talking, I was like, wait, that is a yeah. And it's it's a shark pirate. And he's just getting ready to toss someone overboard. And it says, you know how to swim. Don't you chum? Which is just a perfect, ah you know, one as well. Yeah. her Because he's going to be shark bait. But ah yeah, the no, the the it is like very ah The shark is more realistic, but the the two guys are very exaggerated. Yes, they are very much Foglio style art. Like I said, that one on the back, as soon as you said that, I was like, dang, did they just lift the dude from recycle like that? Yeah.
00:58:27
Speaker
her um Homunculus hoard has some of my flavor flavor for ability ah because they're basically homunculus' that just keep getting more and more of them based on drawing your second card. So whenever you draw your second card, you would could create a token that's a copy of this. So then they start scaling. I think I mentioned this one in a previous episode. but um I played that against that recently in draft and was like, oh, maybe I won't kill it right now. And I will tell you, that's a mistake. That thing is kill on sight and limited. That is it gets scary quickly. Yeah, anything that can go expotential usually is. ah You got another one, Alex? like
00:59:12
Speaker
this is This is a weird one. This is the kind of stuff, that the the weird kind of stuff that i I look at and think, this is notable, though it really isn't a notable card. um ah Shardless Outlander, a 6'5 artifact creature construct scout for seven that has trample and basic land cycling. um But what's super relevant here is the flavor text says, the Conflux proved that a lot of strength came from unity, not division.
00:59:39
Speaker
um This is a ah reference ah direct reference to Alara, a place we have not been or talked about in a long time. And I'm wondering if this is a little bit of a reminding people, seeding some future, some reminders that this place exists. A reminder Alara exists. Yeah, we did start getting a lot more reminders that Tarkir exists about a year before they announced the next set.
01:00:05
Speaker
me And Kamagawa had a lot of cards showing up in commander sets for a couple of years before we had a Kamagawa set. so it's it's Does anybody really want to go back to Olara, though? Is it is it a popular thing? I've heard people say for years people are saying, well, I want to go back to Kamagawa. But I've never heard someone say, I really want to go back to Olara. I really want to go back to Olara because yeah I love that it introduced shards.
01:00:31
Speaker
Yeah, to actually be yeah like named three colors. It was also the return of bolus. I mean, in terms of it was the first time we got him as a planeswalker. Yeah. And we just had a wonderful flavor text talking about him getting his ass kicked again. Did we, though? okay ah The other thing I was going to say about Shardless Outlander is it also looks very much like Golos.
01:00:58
Speaker
yeah And we don't really, I don't think we know a ton about Golos. No, other than him being banned. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah but then that also artifact that is basic land cycling kind of ties into the... Right, there is the whole cycle of big expensive cards with a land cycling ability on them. Now I will say Golos was also a scout.
01:01:20
Speaker
yeah So I think that this might actually be, so but we we might be getting a little bit, with that art choice, I think we are also learning a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and there's also the thing of, if this is ah this is a construct, where did the construct come from? Was this built on Alara or is this a scout from somewhere else? Now that we have Omen Pass, I can give people to Alara. I don't know. yeah I wouldn't mind returning to Alara. It did get us our only all gold set.
01:01:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, as of recent, most of our multicolor sets have been like pairs. We've got like Ravnica is very good at pairs. Even when you go to like Strixhaven and stuff, that's color pairs. Yeah. I'm really interested to see how things go on Tarkir. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. That's a good point. Yeah, we got Tarkir. Yeah. But maybe that follows then Alara in a year or two, because then that's the other side of the three color sets. Yeah.
01:02:18
Speaker
All right. And maybe not. My last card for tonight is Abyssal Harvester, which is a Demon Warlock, which is a creature type line I'm all for. ah It's ah one black, black for a 3-2 that has a really cool ability. You can exile a creature card from a graveyard that was put there this turn and create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a nightmare, and this one's other types, and then exile all other nightmare tokens you control.
01:02:46
Speaker
um Okay, that's really cool. The reason I'm talking about this card is the flavor text though. Till the soil, spare no soul, need the darkness, nightmares grows. And this is called a children's nursery rhyme. yeah So it's on Innistrad. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. We have We have children's nursery rhymes are about like the black plague. Yeah. true Yeah. We have some dark ones, but this one, yeah. And that is but yeah exactly what I think this is calling back to the fact that we have some dark ones, but this one is really dark.
01:03:23
Speaker
Uh, I have one last one for myself. Uh, that is tragic banshee, which is a take on tragic slip. So we have that and again, uh, except it's a creature that has the morbid ability that when it enters, if it, a creature, an opponent left it, or a creature gets minus one, minus one. If a creature died, it gets minus 13, minus 13. So you get it.
01:03:48
Speaker
Yeah. and Instead of a one minute instant. Yeah. Tragic slip is probably one of my top three favorite removal spells of all time. Especially a multiplayer because it's. Yes. Yes. I like it made me think of the the the conspiracy drafts where you could convince an opponent to like have a creature die so that you could turn on morbid. Yeah. Yeah, that was. ah Yeah, this is this is a cool card. It's a good callback. um I'm guessing tragic slip is just too good to print back in this standard so they didn't actually print tragic slip. Yes, that would probably be ridiculous.
01:04:35
Speaker
So that was the last one I had.
01:04:38
Speaker
Alex, you got anything else? and I just yeah had a note about Slammy Piper. and oh I know. just My note, and this is just a, I don't even have the card pull ups. I can't remember the mechanics. They weren't super special, but my note says, I don't know why we have a fungus bard, but it makes me happy. Oh, that's true. There are yeah cool there are some cool jewel creature types in here. I mean, there's just so much more. This set is, it's huge. It's spread across a couple different products.
01:05:06
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yeah there's a lot there's there's a lot here the set has a ton i mean we're i knew that we would not have any issues doing multiple episodes around this set we could do that i mean it yeah it's i am excited to have this as a jumping off point again and it and and having something that feels like a place to onboard like players i just i I'm excited with that because magic changes, magic grows, but we haven't had a way to keep people around that didn't involve needing to have in franchise players kind of teaching. Yeah. My girlfriend that hasn't played magic in a long time just bought a box of foundations and the the starter set. So yeah, it seems to be doing what it's intended to be doing. Yeah.
01:05:56
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Yeah. Well, and this, I have a, I have a friend who, uh, some co-worker who plays the, um, final fantasy card game, which is a thing I didn't know existed. But when I was telling him that magic is going to have a final fantasy set next year, he's like, well, maybe it's time for me to learn. It's like, well, now I know there's a good product for, for that. If he is actually interested, I have someone to kind of point to him. Yeah. Or, or, you know, get a beginner box and teach. Yeah. Like, yeah. So, huh. Well.
01:06:25
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I don't know what we're talking about next week, but we sure talked about foundations. We sure have, um, you know, we just Thanksgiving week. So maybe we will have a week off. I don't know. we might Yeah. But talk to you whenever we see you next. Go check out our discord, especially if you're interested in learning about boxing league and perhaps taking part in one. Come join us. We love people in our discord.
01:06:55
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