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Another Top 10 List: What in the Whirl Keeps it Real
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In this episode, we break down the top 10 whirlyball players, showcasing the best of the best on both the offensive and defensive ends of the court. Whether you're looking for speed, skill, or strategic prowess, we've got you covered. Plus, we'll have a little fun by picking our dream team—who would make the cut in an ultimate fantasy lineup? Join us for an in-depth analysis and a lively discussion that every whirlyball fan won't want to miss!
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Introduction and Whirly Ball Top 10 Lists
00:00:00
Chilly
you
00:00:01
thedfsdeli
As we are continuing the off season here in Whirly ball, we are getting geared up for NFL season. And I figured with the NFL right around the corner, everyone loves a good top 10 list. So chill and I are going to be. collecting our our brains, mashing those bad boys together to come up with the two top 10 list, the definitive list of defenders and offensive players and whirly ball. So as you join us tonight on the what in the world podcast, East addition, I want you to strap up and make sure that you got some ice. Cause some people are going to get butt hurt tonight. Let's ride on in baby.
Podcast Community Growth and Inspiration
00:01:00
thedfsdeli
oh oh Welcome in to what in the world the East edition and as some people deemed it the real edition where we likes to keep it a buck on the show. It is NFL is right around the corner. So in this little bubble of a community, I figured since every year the NFL likes to release top 10 list of basically every metric and category of, uh, they could, they think of, I figured it would be appropriate that my co-host and I chill, man, sit down and, and, and collaborate and see if we can't come up with the top 10 list of defenders and and offensive players here in Whirly ball.
00:01:35
Chilly
Bye.
00:01:43
thedfsdeli
And obviously mentioned some some honorable mentions, some up and comers as we go down the list. So um yeah, I figured it would be a fun topic to discuss amongst the community. And hopefully we can rouse some people up, which is obviously my goal here on the East Edition of the podcast. So joining me tonight, of course, is my co-host, Chill Man. Chill, what's going on, brother?
00:02:07
Chilly
Oh, you know, not much. Like you said, the real addition. Some people are some people are going to like what we got to say. ah Some people will not like what we got to say. ah But, you know, I'll tell you right now, I didn't fucking make any of my list. So don't come at me. All right. So um again, if you don't like it, do your own damn top 10 list. ah Just let you know if you don't if you're not playing an A, you ain't on the list. You want to stop the
Chill Man on Rankings and Engagement
00:02:35
Chilly
episode now. You didn't make the cut. All right.
00:02:37
thedfsdeli
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00:02:40
Chilly
well
00:02:41
thedfsdeli
but let's let's stop the discrimination here chill okay cause there's so
00:02:43
Chilly
We're the real addition.
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thedfsdeli
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00:02:50
Chilly
Yeah, they're they're cool. but but Yeah, they're cool.
00:02:53
thedfsdeli
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00:02:56
Chilly
But again, we're making a top 10 list. You don't see anybody from ah you know the European League on the NFL top 100 list. all right yeah to yeah You don't see any XFL players.
00:03:04
thedfsdeli
Well, they're two different leagues. They're two different leagues.
00:03:07
Chilly
right Well, the same thing.
00:03:08
thedfsdeli
I mean, that doesn't define them as a player.
00:03:11
Chilly
but
00:03:13
thedfsdeli
It defines them as where they're that where they're at in in their their journey, their their careers.
00:03:19
Chilly
Listen, I'm sure there's a lot of up and coming great players and they're going to make it to A and they can make it to the list eventually, but not to them.
00:03:30
Chilly
Again, I didn't make my own damn list. I'm still changing my one list as we speak with this ah tasty adult beverage in my hand.
00:03:40
thedfsdeli
Well, listen, like, like the cool thing about it is, is 100% opinionated. So, I mean, there's no, there's no real definite, there's no definitive, this is the overall best of the best or the worst of the worst. You know, like we, we are subject to opinion and we have the right to express that here because we decided to set up the equipment, put on the headset and get behind a microphone. So again, if the, the, the offer still stands, of course, if anybody wants to jump on our podcast or the 17 other podcast that have spawned from what in the world created by you know Mark and and Noah and Steve, man, just reach out, we're here.
00:04:19
Chilly
I mean, we're ah we're one we're yeah we're one of the 17, but we're <unk> the real one.
00:04:25
thedfsdeli
Hey, I like to pride myself at at sparking the the the generation of saying we can create our own podcast because we while we appreciate everything that Steve and the boys have done, Like I decided to wanted to branch off and do my own thing with their blessing. And now like 50 other people are doing it. So, but again, we're just here to keep it real. So hopefully our topics are interesting enough. Again, the offer stands. If anybody wants to join us on a podcast episode, by all means
Encouraging Podcast Participation
00:04:56
thedfsdeli
hit us up.
00:04:56
thedfsdeli
We're more than happy to have you interviews, questions, whatever you want. Just come come on in.
00:05:02
Chilly
all we ask All we ask is that you have a working microphone and don't be boring.
00:05:03
thedfsdeli
on
00:05:08
thedfsdeli
yeah I, well, and some people are just naturally boring people. I mean, like I would say within a whirly ball community, we're not, you know, there's not really too many people that are like wall flowers in whirly ball. You know, I think a lot of people are still making names for themselves to be recognized in the community, but for the most part, we're pretty uppity to say the least.
00:05:21
Chilly
but I mean, that's true.
00:05:33
Chilly
I mean that you're not wrong, but again, we real edition.
00:05:39
thedfsdeli
We're just here to have some fun. And that's what it boils down
NFL Comparisons and Content Promotion
00:05:42
thedfsdeli
to. so And so as you know, every year the NFL likes to put out these top 10, top 50, top 100 players list. And then it's up to the local radio station stations to completely bitch about why Miles Garrett is leagues better than TJ Watt, even though he's not. um And then they get to go back and forth about who's one, who's two, why Deshaun Watson is ah is it not a top 30 quarterback in the NFL, even though he's a starter, things like that. but
00:06:08
Chilly
Well, he's trash.
00:06:09
thedfsdeli
I mean, we all agree on that, but, and we're from Cleveland, so.
00:06:15
Chilly
Yeah, you get questions like, how does San Francisco have seven of the top 30 players and lose the Super Bowl? Again, to say, don't even have a player on the list yet.
00:06:24
thedfsdeli
How sad, how sad.
00:06:25
Chilly
Until the top 10 when they get Kelsey Jones in the homes. But that's beside the point.
00:06:30
thedfsdeli
Yes, that's beside the point. Because I mean, we can spew all the NFL knowledge we want to on our other podcasts that will be opening up here soon. So if you're in the NFL, DFS, anything NFL related, please make sure to subscribe to the other podcast hosted by myself and chill and our other friend Baker. It is called the DFS deli. So if you want to get in there, make sure when you're done listening here, you subscribe over there.
00:06:57
Chilly
That's what we, this is what we call in the business a cheat plug.
00:07:01
thedfsdeli
Ah, yes. The old Mick Foley right here in Cleveland, Ohio.
00:07:07
Chilly
He said the name of my city.
00:07:10
thedfsdeli
I here. I live here. It's me. But yeah, I'm excited to get that going. Uh, NFL, like I said, right around the corner, my favorite season of the year. But again, you know, we, we play
Whirly Ball Podcasts and Impact
00:07:20
thedfsdeli
whirly ball. So, you know, we gotta, we got some things, some scenes to discuss, uh, first docket first item on the docket, I should say is, the what in the world podcast, the Seattle boys did release another episode, listen this morning into the afternoon at work. So once you're done checking us out, if you haven't checked them out yet, make sure you go over there and check them out. Very, uh, in depth interview with Jeff Jackson. So that was very cool to listen to. And I hope more, more interview esque type podcasts are going to be on the market. Um, I know that,
00:07:55
thedfsdeli
What is it Chicago still has in name their podcast, but they haven't released anything yet. Correct.
00:08:01
Chilly
I believe they're working on it.
00:08:04
thedfsdeli
Okay.
00:08:04
Chilly
I didn't see a date or anything. I just know they're working on it. If you've yet to listen to the Texas one that was released a little bit ago, go listen to that. That was entertaining.
00:08:19
thedfsdeli
Oh but yeah. We haven't discussed that yet. Have we?
00:08:21
Chilly
Yeah, that one was hilarious.
00:08:21
thedfsdeli
Cause we haven't been back. Yo, I was going to say, it did you enjoy that?
00:08:26
Chilly
I did. I mean, my family got roasted on it a little bit. I thought it was hilarious. I could take a joke. So kudos to them. I'm here. So it was a good time. I had it going. I was playing it at work. I left my ass off, and I thought it was a good time. So kudos to them.
00:08:45
thedfsdeli
It was an interesting perspective. Yeah, it was an interesting perspective. I enjoyed it. So I, you know, I hope they ah don't stick to their word and are one and done. I hope they come back for, you know, just if it's just sheer entertainment or sheer roast, I would like to at least get maybe once a couple months just to, just to hear from the boys. Cause they are really good behind the mic. So shout out to those guys that that's for sure. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.
00:09:09
Chilly
I enjoy it.
00:09:10
thedfsdeli
But I hope the Chicago guys got something cooking and I hope we can continue to grow this little community that we have going on here at Whirly Ball. So appreciate all y'all that listen and subscribe and do the things that help generate the buzz behind Whirly Ball.
00:09:24
Chilly
I agree.
00:09:28
thedfsdeli
So chill. You were, uh, I gave you, I gave you the homework assignment. Uh, we mentioned it, a few we mentioned a few weeks ago, actually, that we're going to be doing something like this, but tonight was the night that we decided to sit down and actually talk about it because again, I get, I get motivated when the boys over in Seattle put out an episode. So I'm like, you know, I got to get behind the mic, get a little topic going, you know? So you had three things to do, chill at three things. I needed you to give me a top 10 list of defenders in our game.
00:09:59
Chilly
That's the hard one.
00:10:01
thedfsdeli
a top 10 list of offensive players in our game
00:10:05
Chilly
Easy
Top 10 Defenders Analysis
00:10:06
Chilly
-ish.
00:10:06
thedfsdeli
and to formulate your dream team, which again, you're playing on, like you can't take five and then watch them play.
00:10:11
Chilly
I got two for that.
00:10:17
thedfsdeli
No, you have to match.
00:10:17
Chilly
I can't. You're saying I can't bring them the water.
00:10:21
thedfsdeli
Yeah, exactly.
00:10:21
Chilly
I can't ref.
00:10:23
thedfsdeli
Exactly. you You can't, you can't ref. You got, you can't watch these five guys play. No, you're on the court with these other four gentlemen and or women in our sport.
00:10:34
thedfsdeli
Okay.
00:10:34
Chilly
Unless if it's a Seattle team, that I'm allowed the ref, but if Clint's playing, I'm not allowed the ref.
00:10:40
Chilly
Too aggressive with the rules, like calling them.
00:10:45
thedfsdeli
There's no such thing as being aggressive. He's following the protocol.
00:10:50
Chilly
Hey, I mean, what can you do?
00:10:53
thedfsdeli
Exactly. Play the game and make sure you don't extend chill and you'll be I like how it's a running joke in the community.
00:10:58
Chilly
I got, I extend, everybody knows I extend.
00:11:04
Chilly
Yeah, dude, it's a running joke, and the refs are in on the joke.
00:11:05
thedfsdeli
yeah
00:11:09
Chilly
They still don't call it.
00:11:11
thedfsdeli
Fair, fair. Um, so let's get down to the nitty gritty, baby. Let's get into it. Let's debate. the top 10 list in whirly ball right now. So of course I'm going to start with the harder list for you in defenders. So these are not, we, we set the, the precedent of these are not just pure goalies. These are guys that are primarily goalies, but can play stout defense no matter where they are on the court. Okay. So just because you're stuck in the hole,
00:11:48
thedfsdeli
doesn't mean you automatically qualify for the list. And just because you sometimes play goalie and sometimes do this and that, the other that does qualify you for the list. But again, primary function is that on your team, you are not required to put ball in bucket. You are required to prevent ball from going in bucket. So chill. Number 10 on your list.
00:12:15
Chilly
All right, well, hey, I think we have to state that the people on this list are people that played at the last nationals.
00:12:15
thedfsdeli
Who you got?
00:12:24
thedfsdeli
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that is that is a great point.
00:12:26
Chilly
So if your name's
00:12:28
thedfsdeli
These are active roster players last national.
00:12:31
Chilly
Mike Wall, Driscoll, Trevor, Rich, Billy-O, you ain't on the list.
00:12:34
thedfsdeli
yeah
00:12:41
Chilly
You didn't make the cut. Again, these are active players, play at nationals, make the damn list.
00:12:49
thedfsdeli
Yes. Thank you for reminding me of that caveat. I appreciate you ah remembering that. Cause some people are going to be at home like, wait a minute. I'm a better going.
00:12:56
Chilly
Yeah.
00:12:56
thedfsdeli
Where are you at Chicago last year?
00:12:58
Chilly
Yeah.
00:12:59
thedfsdeli
Then if you come to Seattle next year and we do the updated list, you might hear your name.
00:13:01
Chilly
Yeah. Yeah. So the 20, so the 800 Seattle Hall of Famers, they can make the list. All right.
00:13:11
thedfsdeli
It's not that many of them yet, bro.
00:13:14
Chilly
Not yet. Fuck.
00:13:15
thedfsdeli
I so i said, yeah. Didn't I say yet?
00:13:17
Chilly
Yeah.
00:13:18
thedfsdeli
I said, yeah. Anyway, chill.
00:13:20
Chilly
Oh, so number 10.
00:13:22
thedfsdeli
Number 10 on your list, bro.
00:13:24
Chilly
Number 10.
00:13:25
thedfsdeli
Who you got?
00:13:25
Chilly
This would be cool if we could do like a cutoff, a segue, and number 10 and to show up.
00:13:30
thedfsdeli
Hey, listen, a side note, side note, I did try to find sound boards for that. And let me tell you, the internet is not friendly when it comes to free stuff. Make sure you log in, subscribe, $5 a month, $10 a month, $30 a month. Hey, how about you kiss my ass? I record in about an hour. So just know,
00:13:49
Chilly
I'd sell you, I'd sell you the five bucks.
00:13:51
thedfsdeli
yeah It just no, yes, there should have been a cutaway for just deep, dramatic guy in background. Number 10, 10, 10.
00:14:01
Chilly
All right, my number 10. This man finally played some goalie in Unlimited this year. We all kind of wonder why he doesn't do it more often. Could be an absolute juggernaut back there if he so chose to be. Let's go from Texas. Ross is number 10.
00:14:24
thedfsdeli
Ross Wunderlich, number 10 on Chills list. And he is also number 10 on my list. And we have Ross so low because like you said, he has made the transition to Picker primarily. But we all know as a defensive force how long he is, how active he is on the defensive end. So we got to put him down this low because again, his primary function has shifted. But because of the performance that he did unlimited playing back for the most part, although he did creep up a few times when they needed him. He's, he's a force. He's a force when it comes down to down low. So number 10, you and I agree Ross Wanda Lick from Texas slots in at the number 10 spot. Anything else we need to say about Ross before we move up the list?
00:15:13
Chilly
Yeah, play more goalie because that would be cool so I can move you up the list. That'd be cool.
00:15:19
thedfsdeli
I think, yeah, I think he would take the surge up the list.
00:15:21
Chilly
Yeah, I think you're better than some of the people I have in front of you. But since you don't play it, it's your loss, your 10.
00:15:27
thedfsdeli
But like, but by default, because of how like good he actually is and could be, he made the list.
00:15:32
Chilly
Yeah. Dude, he was, he was, he was, yeah.
00:15:34
thedfsdeli
Like he had to make the list.
00:15:36
Chilly
Yeah, he did great. He's kind of, he's kind of got like the Jordan love going where like you had a good eight games.
00:15:44
thedfsdeli
He had a half of a great season and you paid him.
00:15:46
Chilly
Yeah. Yeah, he got paid. Don't even get me started on football.
00:15:52
thedfsdeli
So he got paid as the number one. So you're saying if he pray played primary goalie, he would be number one.
00:15:59
Chilly
I think he has the potential to do so. Wouldn't you agree?
00:16:04
thedfsdeli
Yes. 100% 100% 100,000%.
00:16:07
Chilly
Like his upside is through the roof.
00:16:08
thedfsdeli
Yes.
00:16:11
Chilly
Like it's a high.
00:16:11
thedfsdeli
Facts.
00:16:13
Chilly
He's got a high ceiling. He's got a high ceiling.
00:16:16
thedfsdeli
Is that like, because he's that tall? Is that a tall joke?
00:16:21
Chilly
No?
00:16:22
thedfsdeli
Okay, I was just it could have been could have made it one anyway.
00:16:26
Chilly
Jesus.
00:16:27
thedfsdeli
Let's move on to dramatic guy in the number nine spot.
00:16:31
Chilly
I'll let you go first for number nine.
00:16:33
thedfsdeli
Oh, chill, chill. You want to let me to go to number nine? Because it's time to toot my own horn, baby. I'm coming in at number nine. And here's why. In C, even though, I i mean, I played C, but we, you know you know, I played B before, you know, I could have made the A team with Shaw, et cetera, et cetera. But because my primary function literally wasn't playing defense this year, when I did get stuck back, there's nobody in that division that had more blocks than me. And it wasn't close. When I'm back there, I'm scary. I'm very active on defense. You know this. And it was literally several teams in C were just like, stop shooting on this cat and move to the other side.
00:17:16
thedfsdeli
So I'm gonna toot my own horn because I've been playing a lot of defense for the years that you've played with me, that you've known me. Hell, you go against me in practice all the time.
00:17:27
thedfsdeli
So you you know what I can bring to the table, you know what I'm saying? And I wanna bring up my boy BJ with the ringing endorsement. He said, I am the toughest goalie he has ever faced that is under six foot tall. So even with the caveat, I appreciate the shout out. So I'm slotting myself in at number nine. Chill who you got.
00:17:27
Chilly
I do I do.
00:17:52
Chilly
All right, so at number nine, I'm going to give this individual. I'm going to give him some credit here. This man has played goalie since the day I met him. Since I think he was on the team Mean Green, which I think was a 2012 Plano team. I think that's when he started playing.
00:18:12
thedfsdeli
Mean green.
00:18:13
Chilly
I think it was Mean Green, man.
00:18:13
thedfsdeli
All right.
00:18:16
Chilly
I don't know. Somebody in the chat or in the comments
00:18:23
Chilly
you know, fact check me on that one. I'm going with one Kyle Phillips.
00:18:25
thedfsdeli
yeah Yeah.
00:18:28
thedfsdeli
Kyle Phillips. Yeah. I like that pic.
00:18:32
Chilly
I feel like I got to give the man some flowers. I played against this man the majority of my worldly ball life.
00:18:37
thedfsdeli
Mm-hmm.
00:18:39
Chilly
We've had some, we've had some epic battles down there. Again, Good goalie, solid, willing to play as a good team. His deep shot is better than his short range shot. Within two welds, he can't shoot. Four welds, he's solid. I think it's like almost every goalie, minus a couple of them that we'll get to, I'm sure.
00:19:01
thedfsdeli
He is a good three point shooter. He's got range.
00:19:03
Chilly
So, yeah, I'm sliding with one Kyle Phillips.
00:19:03
thedfsdeli
He's got range.
00:19:07
thedfsdeli
I like that pick. Very active on defense. Of course, the signature pink hat and probably the best referee we have in the game. Kyle Phillips moving on to number eight. Number eight, eight, eight, eight, eight. Chill back to you. Who you got at number eight?
00:19:23
Chilly
I got, I got Cleveland's own. I got the Slim Reaper. I got one, Jarrett Dobies.
00:19:31
thedfsdeli
Jared's eight feet tall.
00:19:33
Chilly
It's a good goalie though.
00:19:35
thedfsdeli
Yeah, you're right.
00:19:35
Chilly
Ross is, Ross is taller.
00:19:39
thedfsdeli
You're right.
00:19:40
Chilly
But again, we know why he's number 10.
00:19:40
thedfsdeli
You're right.
00:19:43
thedfsdeli
Yeah.
00:19:44
thedfsdeli
Yeah, that's fair.
00:19:45
Chilly
Honestly, honestly, without really checking, I do believe Jarrett probably got the most blocks in A, truthfully.
00:19:52
Chilly
Again a lot of people's time first time playing them so that that may have a lot to do with it So I got Jared here at number eight Reason why I probably don't have Jared a little bit higher. It's probably just probably driving a little bit Obviously with us being new and a we all gotta get better at driving so that's a us thing more than a him thing and
00:20:15
thedfsdeli
Sure.
00:20:16
Chilly
But I mean, we've all seen Jarrett's, his TikToks.
00:20:16
thedfsdeli
Yeah.
00:20:22
Chilly
We'll see him more as the, I mean, the goat made it, Sam made it, Joe may have made it.
00:20:24
thedfsdeli
He does.
00:20:28
thedfsdeli
He does put people on the highlight reel.
00:20:30
Chilly
He does put people on the highlight reel.
00:20:31
thedfsdeli
That's that's true.
00:20:33
Chilly
We know Timmy's made it. So, yep, I'm going with Slim and number eight.
00:20:39
thedfsdeli
only Only reason why I would put Slim as an honorable mention is because I'm so used to playing with him at home and his primary function is offense. So I get it. He's a terror when it comes to defense because of his length and he's very, very quick when it comes to getting out of his car and disrupting passes and things like that. I feel like he's one of the two way players that you can count on. If I would remake this list in a year. I would probably put him on it or because our primary functions are different. Like, let's say if, you know, there was a time where Jared and I play together because again, in, in Cleveland, we do play together.
00:21:16
thedfsdeli
He ain't on defense. I'm playing defense. So, but I get, I get your logic. It makes a thousand percent sense, 100%. And again, who else puts out highlight reels of the box, right?
00:21:28
Chilly
Yeah, and the only reason why I have him I had a Kyle is because the one game we did play Kyle I think Jared dunked on him for like eight in a row Yeah, it's where it has nothing to do with the defensive side of the ball But I can't put one guy over the other if the other guy was fucking shitting on him.
00:21:36
thedfsdeli
That's fair, that's fair.
00:21:44
thedfsdeli
Well, which is why this man comes in at the number eight position speaking about getting shit on for a little bit but otherwise solid.
00:21:49
Chilly
I
00:21:50
thedfsdeli
I'm going with KB from Texas as number eight on my list minus Ross absolutely destroying him. He's a solid defender. He's very tough to move, active scoop. And again, he knows his role on the squad. So I gotta say KB and again, I think you mentioned KB about one of those guys that's just like for some reason he's tough to shoot him around. He always gets you, you know things like that. He's very, very active nimble when it comes to the car. I would have slotted him higher if it wasn't for Ross embarrassing him.
00:22:25
Chilly
I mean, and that's fair. Yeah. I, uh, KB lovable guy at one point was a rival. Uh, I do think I won this year in terms of that rivalry. Uh, so, um, but Hey, nothing, nothing against KB.
00:22:41
thedfsdeli
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. All right. We go into number seven, seven, seven, seven and chill. I got it. I got to define. I got it. He's probably the definition of active when it comes to defense. Okay. At number seven, I'm going with Seattle's on John Weber. On the A championship team, again, I feel like he filled the role that they needed being hands, he'd be an active, excellent driver. And we've known him being on the defensive end for years and years and years. This year, on top of a solid defense, the opportunities that he had to even put the ball in the bucket, he capitalized on. But as a defender, he is a menace.
00:23:27
thedfsdeli
And again, very active when it comes to defense. No one's out driving John Weber, okay? And if it happens, it's rare. So I gotta give it up to number seven, John Weber. That's my number seven, who you got?
00:23:43
Chilly
all right so my number seven uh it's probably one of the most calmest uh defenders out there uh he's solid uh great overall player it is one uh it's carter from texas yeah
00:23:58
thedfsdeli
Oh, you gon' get some Doug Bates? You puttin' Carter this low?
00:24:03
Chilly
i got carter at number seven i'm sorry i i just think the uh i think the other people i i have ahead of carter are i think they're i think they're better
00:24:04
thedfsdeli
Damn!
00:24:13
thedfsdeli
Mmm!
00:24:15
Chilly
I think I think they're better.
00:24:15
thedfsdeli
Mmm!
00:24:18
thedfsdeli
Mmm!
00:24:19
Chilly
This is what the comments are for, bro.
00:24:22
thedfsdeli
yeah I mean, hey, that's what that's why it's an opinion-based show. ah you know These are not facts. Well, I mean, some of them are facts, by the way. But yeah, hey, I'm not going to argue with your logic, OK?
00:24:35
Chilly
Yeah, the man's got the man's got the sweet shot there from the three point line.
00:24:40
thedfsdeli
Mm-hmm.
00:24:40
Chilly
He just lined it up again. Good goalie. A lot of the Texas guys obviously do drive their cars really well. Good drivers. So I would give it to one Austin Carter and number seven.
00:24:58
thedfsdeli
I like it. Number six, six, six, six. You got
Defender Rankings Debates
00:25:04
thedfsdeli
chill. Number six, as we climb up the list, because there's some people that you've mentioned that I haven't mentioned when they're going to hear their names on the, is they hired? Did I make the list? I mean, what's going to happen? So you got a number six.
00:25:17
Chilly
I got one back to back unlimited chap. He's only number six because he got it got cooked by Bolte a little bit is one Jordan Huffman.
00:25:29
thedfsdeli
Ooh, Jordan, Jordan Huffman, Huffman, Huffman, Huffman. Man, what a solid freaking player all around he is. um Menace, like he said, when it comes to defense, get get up tall in a car. um Yeah, I mean, i hey, no no no debate here.
00:25:45
Chilly
He said, He's a do-it-all defender for them.
00:25:48
thedfsdeli
It truly is.
00:25:50
Chilly
Again, still not ultra great on the offensive side. He can bury shots. But again, I'm sure he'll get way better at that eventually. But obviously, great defender. We got Jordan at number six.
00:26:06
thedfsdeli
Well, my number six is guy you have lower your list, but he's higher on mine. I'm going with Kyle Phillips at number six, all the way up top, even for a goalie. That's basically the same height as me. Um, the guy knows how to be active in the car. He knows how to disrupt passes and plays breaks up two on ones really well. And I think that anytime you see Kyle back there, you got to think twice about the shot. You might want to back up a welder too. So I got to go with Kyle being a little higher on my list, bro. I got to do it. I gots to do it. Now my high, my high guys or your lower guys. I'm really interested to see when we get into number five, five, five, five.
00:26:53
Chilly
That's you, who we lead off with.
00:26:55
thedfsdeli
Oh man.
00:26:55
Chilly
Who's in the top five?
00:26:57
thedfsdeli
Oh, man, we coming back to Texas, because you know the big man with the plan that holds it down wherever he stands. It's got to be Alex from Texas. Big Doc on the block with the blocks. He is always a menace to deal with, works the living shit out of his car for a bigger gentleman. And he's got the height to back it up. So anytime, once again, you think of Doc and you looking at that two, three well screenshot. Think again because you might need to get a little loft on it because Doc is going to send the SWAT back to your block.
00:27:33
thedfsdeli
So I gots to go with Doc. Number five.
00:27:38
Chilly
You know what's funny?
00:27:38
thedfsdeli
Oh.
00:27:40
Chilly
We obviously didn't talk about our lists.
00:27:42
thedfsdeli
Correct.
00:27:43
Chilly
But at number five, I got Papa Doc as well.
00:27:46
thedfsdeli
Yeah, we've agreed two times a hot two times number five and number 10. Both Texas guys. What the fuck?
00:27:56
Chilly
I again Doc is a great defender obviously like you described it I mean the man's tall he does get out of his seat he can argue that he doesn't or not you can't you can never tell but he does cheat a little bit again great defender and if I had more alcohol I would
00:28:12
thedfsdeli
We all cheat a little bit.
00:28:17
Chilly
I would take a drink for Doc. We all know The Man operates a movie theater.
00:28:21
thedfsdeli
I will.
00:28:22
Chilly
Deadpool and Wolverine came out this past weekend. He probably worked 100 hours, so shout out to him.
00:28:29
thedfsdeli
Facts.
00:28:30
Chilly
Also, great movie for any of those who haven't seen it yet. Go. You'll laugh your ass off.
00:28:37
thedfsdeli
I'm in, I'm in.
00:28:38
Chilly
But yeah, Doc. Doc comes in at my number five.
00:28:43
thedfsdeli
Papa Doc slide in at number five. Who you got at number four, four, four.
00:28:49
Chilly
I got the Hall of Famer, the Whirly Ball dead mother, one Clint Fisher, the most aggressive goalie you'll ever see in your life.
00:28:59
thedfsdeli
Clint Fisher, Clint Fisher.
00:29:07
thedfsdeli
Well, well, chill, you know, I liked Joe track so much that I'm gonna just go ahead and hit repeat because I got Clint Fisher at number four. Again, we make fun of, we make fun of the fact how active Clint Fisher is by mimicking and mocking what he does when we're practicing together. Cause when I'm in your cart, you best believe I'm yelling Clint Fisher.
00:29:27
Chilly
Yeah.
00:29:30
thedfsdeli
But the thing is with Clint is that. It's his ball, you have it and he wants it.
00:29:36
Chilly
Oh yeah.
00:29:38
thedfsdeli
So he's coming to get it. Simple as that. So you want to talk about the man that's really willing to give you a kiss. He's so up close in your damn cart. Every time you got the ball, it's gotta be your boy, Clint Fisher. So we are, we are in an agreement on three rankings. Chill.
00:29:57
thedfsdeli
Wow.
00:29:57
Chilly
I mean, people talk about Texas players being aggressive.
00:30:01
Chilly
I'm like, y'all ever play against Clint?
00:30:03
thedfsdeli
Right.
00:30:03
Chilly
This man will fucking murder you for that ball.
00:30:03
thedfsdeli
Have you not seen Clint Fisher?
00:30:08
thedfsdeli
Max.
00:30:08
Chilly
Literally, if he could play with a knife, he would. I'm pretty sure he would.
00:30:13
thedfsdeli
Oh, we would all leave with stab wounds playing against Clint Fisher with a knife.
00:30:16
Chilly
Yeah, yeah. That dude is, he'd kill your first born for the ball.
00:30:22
thedfsdeli
Facts. Absolutely. If an unlimited trophy is on the line, your kid is dead, son.
00:30:28
Chilly
facts he may he may sacrifice his own son for the ball he's
00:30:32
thedfsdeli
Well, you know, he plays now. So it's like, maybe I agree.
00:30:35
Chilly
still he doesn't care Clint's getting that ball bro getting that block he's getting to your wrist your hand your elbow in the car with you driving he would drive with you
00:30:39
thedfsdeli
100% rib cage, right.
00:30:52
thedfsdeli
Which brings us to chill number three, three, three. Chill, if you don't mind, I'm gonna go ahead and stay on the same team, okay? Because slotted next to Clint Fisher is the man that's slotted next to Clint Fisher. I gotta go with one, Ben Heisel. Always the unlimited team, always the goalie on the limited team. Active hands, one of the best drivers in the sport. You gots to go solid rock defender Ben Heisel as one of the premier defenders in our game. Show who you got.
00:31:32
Chilly
at number three.
00:31:35
Chilly
So I'm going to perfect. Let me let me say this. So my top three only because I putting a little bit more. More of the defensive things side of it into my top three.
00:31:50
thedfsdeli
Hmm.
00:31:51
Chilly
And truthfully, it's because I didn't want to argue with two and three, so I didn't make either one of them number one. So my.
00:31:59
thedfsdeli
I get docked in the rankings because you did one argue the two. I like it.
00:32:05
Chilly
So hopefully hopefully I'll just make them both play defense against me next year be one Barrett Davis Oh,
00:32:09
thedfsdeli
There you go. There you go.
00:32:14
thedfsdeli
Who Barrett made the defensive list.
00:32:18
Chilly
yeah Yeah, I mean again a Barrett's a great defender that dude's tall he's up there in terms of length with Jared and
00:32:20
thedfsdeli
Wow, I like it. I like it.
00:32:30
Chilly
uh, again, athletic as fuck.
00:32:30
thedfsdeli
Yeah.
00:32:32
Chilly
Uh, again, I don't mean to curse, but, uh, again, great defender, uh, hard to shoot over, gets a ton of blocks. Uh, again, kudos to him, but number three.
00:32:46
thedfsdeli
Wow. He didn't even make my top 10 because I feel like I think of him so much as an offensive player, then I just left them off the defensive list. So you know what, you know what?
00:32:56
Chilly
Yeah.
00:32:57
thedfsdeli
Chill. I'm going to go ahead and slot him at 11.
00:33:04
thedfsdeli
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Right. And we'll we'll we'll find some room for Mr. Barrett. All right. I respect that. So sliding in, we're almost to the home stretch of defensive side of the ball. Chill. We're ready for number two. who who who
00:33:27
Chilly
Well, if number three should tell you anything about number two, he's just running mate. They'll never play on the same team, but they'll play on the same unlimited team. We ain't talking about Eric. We've already mentioned Jordan. We'll never call him by his legal first name or just his legal first name.
00:33:49
thedfsdeli
Right.
00:33:50
Chilly
It's one, Joe Tiffany.
00:33:50
thedfsdeli
I get it. I get it.
00:33:54
thedfsdeli
Joe Tiffany getting on the defensive side of the ball, man. Like I said, I think my mental, my mental has him as an offensive player, but I respect your opinion and it makes a ton of sense. It's just to be that high on defense. When he's so known for putting ball in bucket, I,
00:34:14
Chilly
I mean, if you ever watch him play, he always starts out as the goalie. Or on defense, always.
00:34:24
thedfsdeli
This is true.
00:34:25
Chilly
And then he'll start to wake his way up. Plus, in Unlimited, he did play goalie 90% of the time.
00:34:32
thedfsdeli
He did have a nice block party. And I have to, yeah, um I respect that. I respect that. But I got to go with the actual, you know, the primary goal here on that squad. I'm putting Jordan Huffman at number two. Forget whatever bad performance he may have had one time all I know that he was getting dubs defensively in unlimited dubs. All right, so I can't leave.
00:35:01
Chilly
So this is where we need a moderator for our own debate show. Skip!
00:35:06
thedfsdeli
skill skill skill now now and out now now now skill now.
00:35:06
Chilly
Skip! Skip! Skip! Now you want to tell me, when Jordan was getting cooked, who replaced him?
00:35:16
thedfsdeli
Listen.
00:35:16
Chilly
You want to tell me?
00:35:17
thedfsdeli
Listen, i'm talking about I'm talking about the man's overall resume, okay?
00:35:18
Chilly
Skip!
00:35:22
thedfsdeli
Okay, I'm talking about the man's overall resume. Now you guys sit here and tell me that they don't put him as a primary defender because he can't defend, okay? The man is blessed on the defensive end, all right? And again, tall, physical, great driver, he's tough to shoot over. And yes, he may have had a bad game chill. But that's one little blip on the resume. That's one misspelled word on the resume, bro. The rest of them shits is clean.
00:35:55
Chilly
I got a tough list.
00:35:55
thedfsdeli
And that's why he's going to two.
00:35:57
Chilly
You're a lot kinder on your list.
00:36:00
thedfsdeli
I am I'm a nice in fellow bro. Cuz again, maybe I'm maybe I'm a little more sensitive to the defensive end because that's where I primarily play. So, you know, for now, but you know, i mean we'll see, you know, I just like the boy Jordan, you can hold it down.
00:36:13
Chilly
I should lie.
00:36:16
thedfsdeli
So who who who chill who I ask takes the number one spot on your list.
00:36:17
Chilly
I should lie and put myself number one. I'm joking.
00:36:25
Chilly
So for so for me again because I was looking at it for more of a true defender For me, it's going to be one Ben Heisel Yeah
00:36:37
thedfsdeli
Ben going all the way up to number one on the boys list. Tell me a little bit about Ben Heisel that I didn't say.
00:36:41
Chilly
Yeah, man again great driver the dudes tall he's deceptively quick He's got really fast hands. He does a very good job of communicating to his guys. He's a great voice back there. He gets those guys in the position. Coach as well back there, which I think is a lot of underrated. I don't think a lot of people talk about that about him. But again, his positioning is good.
00:37:12
Chilly
overall, great goalie. I think, I think we both agree. I think, I think he's the best goalie that Michigan has. I think he's a little bit better than Clint, personally.
00:37:21
thedfsdeli
I had them higher. Yeah, he's better than Clint.
00:37:24
Chilly
So, I'm going to go with Ben, Ben Heisel at number one.
00:37:29
thedfsdeli
Well, number one chill on my resume spot list. All right. It's taken by the man that you had kind of low on yours, but he's all the way up to the top on mine. I'm talking about one, Mr. Carter, Austin Carter. If I was the only one, somebody to hold down my defense. If I know I ain't got to turn around cause I know it's being held down. It's gotta be the boy Carter. And the thing about Carter is not just defense, even though that's what we're talking about, the man can spray threes like no one's business. So give me a little bit of that offense when I need him and he gets right the hell back on defense, blocking shots, big body to move. I gots to go with Carter at number one on the list. But sure, we agreed three times, three whole times on the defensive list. I'm proud of ourselves.
00:38:23
Chilly
So out of curiosity, because this is always fun, who was on the bubble? Who was looking in?
00:38:30
thedfsdeli
Oh, on the outside looking in.
00:38:32
Chilly
Yeah, who was looking in? Who almost made the list?
00:38:34
thedfsdeli
Um. You know what, man? I'm going to give credit where credit um a good credit where credit is due, man.
00:38:36
Chilly
Who got 11?
00:38:39
thedfsdeli
You know I was going to put you at number 10 if it wasn't for Ross. I know how much of a menace you are when it comes to playing defense. And like I said, the walking joke is the walking extension that you are. So I mean, if you made highlight reels and put them on TikTok, I can almost guarantee you got almost as many blocks as our boy Slim Reaper. So I gots to say, give credit. credit where credits do spread the love where it's needed. Chill you are a solid defender out there and you are in my you're in my class to the under six foot tall class.
00:39:14
thedfsdeli
So we're already out of handicap. Okay, being short. So you know we makes up for we might be 5859 in real life but on the court we get up to 6465 you know what I mean?
00:39:19
Chilly
We are.
00:39:27
Chilly
I agree. So I think for me, number 11, I had one, I had Jace.
00:39:40
thedfsdeli
Interesting.
00:39:42
Chilly
Yeah. Uh, Jace, Jace is a, again, good goalie, good communicator back there. Uh, unfortunately just his team didn't perform so well. Um, but again, all around tall, good goalie. Uh, I think Jace is, is a little underrated. Uh, again, I think he's a good defender.
00:40:00
thedfsdeli
Nice.
00:40:02
Chilly
Um, and then, uh, I'm only, I'm the person I had at number 12.
00:40:02
thedfsdeli
It's good pic.
00:40:08
Chilly
I don't really remember the last time he played defense. He probably rotates a little bit back and forth, but he's a very good defender when he's back there, and it's Zach Jonner.
00:40:21
thedfsdeli
John or man. He's just all around like his, his sliders are literally 90 in every position.
00:40:27
Chilly
Except for the effort level, that's a 99. The work, the car. The work.
00:40:35
thedfsdeli
Well, fair, fair, fair.
00:40:36
Chilly
Well, yeah. genre is a very uh... is a very underrated defender once he's back there tall good reach deceptively quick great awareness smart always has his car in the right position, hasn't played defense in a while like that specifically. But when we first played against each other, that man was a very good goalie, essentially got moved up to A because he was an elite level goalie early in his career. So again, Johnner. And at number 13, for honorable mention, I did have the other Dobies brother and Brad Dobies.
00:41:21
thedfsdeli
Respect. Respect. Well, chill. We talked about the guys that prevent the ball from going to the bucket. Now let's talk about the guys that actually have to put the ball in said bucket. Let's go to the top 10 offensive players and whirly
Transition to Offensive Players
00:41:34
thedfsdeli
ball. You said this list was easy. I said this list was a little more difficult for me. So I would like to see where we unite as one and actually agree on something. So sliding in at number 10, 10, 10.
00:41:46
Chilly
Thank
00:41:47
thedfsdeli
You started off last list. I'm gonna start off this one. I'm gonna start in the bloodline chill. I'm gonna go with Anthony Ola cracking the top 10.
00:41:52
Chilly
you.
00:41:54
thedfsdeli
Anthony has always been the threat that says stop that guy. And now that you have such a well rounded team, it's not just stop that guy, but even in your epic playoff loss, it was literally stopped that guy. And when he got past three Wells, Behind half court, he's still buried shots like it was nobody's business. Anthony always been the ever present offensive threat. I gots to go with your brother cracking the top ten at number ten. Anthony Ola, who you got?
00:42:24
Chilly
Again, yeah, the bottom of this list was actually really tough. I'm gonna slot this gentleman at number 10. I'm gonna slot one Timmy at number 10.
00:42:37
thedfsdeli
You would tear me a TIN?!
00:42:39
Chilly
I'll put Timmy at 10.
00:42:42
thedfsdeli
DAMN!
00:42:51
Chilly
I got Timmy at number 10. Again here, I gotta put Timmy at number 10. For me putting Timmy at 10, it's clear that he needs help.
00:43:08
thedfsdeli
You got a hell of a list if Timmy's at 10, boy.
00:43:10
Chilly
I got Timmy at 10. I think the controversial pick might be at number eight, but we'll see. Obviously, Timmy's a great shooter. I think as the years progress, he will obviously move up this list pretty quick. He did get the him and Anthony both met the same treatment In a so kudos to them in stopping, you know that guy So again a shout out to both of them, but I do got one I do got one Timmy at number 10 the reason why I do have him at number 10 is is because when Timmy has to kind of take over the game and he has to be the guy by himself, that's where he kind of struggles a little bit. Obviously that's going to be a little tougher in A, but seeing it the past two years in B, he struggled to do so. I mean, but again, I'm going to put Timmy at number 10.
00:44:16
thedfsdeli
I respect it. Let's go over to number nine. Nine. Nine. Who you got at nine? Chill.
00:44:22
Chilly
Uh, you mentioned them before at number 10, I got one. I got, I got, I got, I got, I got the big brother here. I got, I got my brother. I got Anthony Ola and number 10.
00:44:32
thedfsdeli
All right. Hey man, shot signs and respect you. I got them at 10. You put them up to nine. Still one of those top flight shooters, knockdown draggy type of guys. So I respect your pick and I also respect this game. So I can't disagree with the pick seeing as how they're pretty close to one another on our list.
00:44:50
Chilly
Yeah.
00:44:50
thedfsdeli
So Anthony Olac solid pick.
00:44:51
Chilly
When you, uh, When you have upper players when you're first starting out playing say, hey, I want to shoot like that C player, you get a little bonus points with me. Obviously, Anthony's a great shooter. He's got a high shot. I brought us back in the game against James and them by hitting three threes in a row there, or two threes, whatever it was.
00:45:14
thedfsdeli
Mm-hmm.
00:45:14
Chilly
Obviously, the rest of us did carry our own weight there.
00:45:18
thedfsdeli
Absolutely.
00:45:19
Chilly
He was content with playing defense, so kudos to him. But obviously, somebody who always walks onto the court and all eyes go to him. So thank you for the open looks that you get us by not doing anything. So shout out to you.
00:45:34
thedfsdeli
yeah Right? fair game fair game. Well, there's gonna be the first of several Hall of Famers that make this miss but I'm a um a list. I'm gonna go ahead and mention off one at number nine. I'm gonna go with the Hall of Famers Sam Kim slide in at number nine. Only reason the only reason he's kind of this low quote unquote is that I feel that a Some people has surpassed the shooting acumen of Sam at this point, but he's still especially from those tough, tough angles. One of the most consistent knockdown shooters that we still have in the game even after all these years.
00:46:15
thedfsdeli
He's still one of the best, but that just shows how A, the game has progressed and B, how crazy of a list this was to come up with that we got Sam Kim. I have Sam Kim as number nine on the list. So, but again, Hall of Famer can't knock it. So, you know, gotta put Sammy at number nine as we go ahead.
00:46:38
Chilly
Yeah, I mean, again, I understand it. I think, uh, I was gonna let you know, Sammy gonna be a little bit higher on my list. Uh, but I also, I also took into account who did they play with and what would happen if they switch spots.
00:46:50
thedfsdeli
All right.
00:46:56
thedfsdeli
I see, man. Now you're getting a little in depth. I ain't worried about the team stuff I was talking about. Man, I need you to bang, bang, bang, no matter who you play with. So you know i got I took it into account lightweight. But I mean, Sammy is still one of the ghosts. You know what I'm saying? He's still up there. So ah let's s slide on into number eight, eight, eight, eight, eight. I think it's my turn on the list to start off with. And this might be controversial, but I'm staying the same center.
00:47:28
thedfsdeli
Gotta go with one Douglas Joyer. Sorry, man, your boy.
00:47:33
Chilly
You got him at eight? You got him at eight?
00:47:34
thedfsdeli
I got Dougie.
00:47:35
Chilly
I thought it was controversial when I put him at eight.
00:47:37
thedfsdeli
And that's what I'm talking about. Dougie Fresh making both our list at number eight. One of the most prolific knockdown shooters in the game and he's and crew improved his post game as well.
00:47:44
Chilly
Oh.
00:47:53
thedfsdeli
So I mean, the man can drop dimes from anywhere on the court. I'm glad we agree. That's one, that's one out of 10 so far. So I mean, you gotta put, I gotta put Doug at eight.
00:48:05
Chilly
Man, yeah, so I, you're gonna have to give me a head of Doug.
00:48:06
thedfsdeli
Go ahead and explain your logic, chill.
00:48:16
thedfsdeli
No spoilers. No spoilers.
00:48:18
Chilly
Oh my God.
00:48:21
thedfsdeli
Spoiler alert, Timmy's ahead of Doug on the list.
00:48:21
Chilly
Oh my, oh my God. Doug may drop down to sea to whip your ass.
00:48:27
thedfsdeli
I will go up to B to avoid him.
00:48:32
Chilly
Again, against Doug this cool comic collected great shot again great shooter he's been a great shooter for a long time now fun to play against is one of the very few I did I didn't get a solid block on him I got a lot just I got a couple tit touches so yeah
00:48:54
thedfsdeli
It's hard to block stuff.
00:48:57
Chilly
again a good shooter Again, I have them. I do have them. I had a Timmy just solely on the fact. I think Doug at right now can do it a little bit more with less help than what Timmy needs. But again, great shooter. But yeah, I got one. I got one one Douglas and number eight.
00:49:23
thedfsdeli
All right, we slide on number seven. Number seven. Seven. Who you got?
00:49:27
Chilly
Uh, I have my one and only Texas player on the list.
00:49:32
thedfsdeli
Only one Texas player made the list. Holy moly donut shop. Talk to me.
00:49:38
Chilly
And it's one, uh, one, Mr. Bolte and number seven. Uh, yeah, I, again, with the way both he performed and unlimited, uh, I think that has to be taken into account. Uh, it had a great showing there shot. Well, uh, I think he's, uh, I think he's Texas's most consistent shooter. Um, unlike some of the other shooters, I don't think he will shoot a team out of the game. Um, he's kind of not a head case either. He'd say he's calling cool and collected. I've seen this man get blocked two in a row and come back and make three in a row.
00:50:11
Chilly
He's not thinking about it. He has one of the best post-up games, but one of the best like fade away shots when he just shoots around the back of the car.
00:50:19
thedfsdeli
Yeah, yeah, agreed.
00:50:20
Chilly
I got a reward for the great showing and unlimited. So again, doing it against some of the best defenders, obviously the game has ever seen. I got to slide the man at number seven.
00:50:33
thedfsdeli
Man, you gotta be number seven, you gonna hate where I have him. Trust me, you will be waiting a while. But at seven, I got Mr. Deadly Silent Assassin himself from Seattle, Eric LaPlante. I got easy E sliding at number seven, the quickest trigger in whirly ball hands down. The man can hit from anywhere and guess what? You ain't blocking him because he's too quick on that trigger, baby. So I gotta go with Eric on this one, man. He is just deadly.
00:51:04
thedfsdeli
And just when you think he's not prepping to shoot, he's already prepped the shoot. The gun out of the holster before he steps on the court, okay? He's ready to just slang them shits. So I gotta to put Eric at number seven. Gotta put him up there. I actually wanted to slot him higher, but then I'm looking at these other guys like. yeah Number seven still doing him justice. So ah you ready for number six? Chill.
00:51:33
Chilly
I'm ready for number six. You ready for number six?
00:51:37
thedfsdeli
I'm ready for number six because you s slide them in on your defensive list where he missed mine because I'm thinking of on the offensive list.
Offensive Player Critiques
00:51:43
thedfsdeli
I gotta go with Barrett. I got to get Barrett in here. I mean, the the man with the left hand so dominant wherever he stands, its just you just can't. There's no counting Barrett out Mr. Intensity on the court. He can just spray from the post outside two, three, five welds. It don't matter. Barrett Davis can put ball in bucket. I got to put him at number six, but who you got?
00:52:12
Chilly
I mean, I got a man from Seattle as well, but it ain't Barrett. His name does begin with a B though. It's one Brad Peters.
00:52:24
thedfsdeli
The man with the post-up plan, the best in the key scorer in the game, Brad Peters.
00:52:31
Chilly
Yeah, again, for me, this kind of goes back to unlimited again. If you're showing out against the best players in the world, I think you deserve to make the list this year. So I got one Brad Peters at at number six.
00:52:46
thedfsdeli
I love it.
00:52:47
Chilly
Again, he had a great showing, obviously was a had a good, was a good factor on the A team as well with Joe, John, Raphael and Christie. So again, I go with Brad Peters.
00:53:05
thedfsdeli
Uh, I like it. I mean, I, Hey, listen, no, no, no qualms from me, my friend, no qualms, but I gotta hear who you got at number five though. I gotta know.
00:53:16
Chilly
I got him at number five and I don't know how I feel about it at number five. Again, obviously this man's had a lot going on in life, you know, and things like that. I don't know how much practice time he has. If this was maybe a couple of years ago, I think he would be higher. He is our new Hall of Famer.
00:53:40
thedfsdeli
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:53:42
Chilly
It'd be one Jeremy Bennett at number five.
00:53:46
thedfsdeli
Jeremy Bennett, the newly crescent Hall of Famer. Man, what a great selection that is. So I'm gonna stir up a little controversy chill, because you ain't say his name yet. I know he's on your list, but I'm gonna say it right now. And I'm gonna make coke people mad. Number five is the GOAT, James Gill. at number five and only say this because I know the man can still put ball in bucket at a high consistent level. I just think when other players that are above him on this list to me are ah hotter, they are scorching hot and they can put more points on the board. Mr. Gill still known for his post game that high shot can shoot it from anywhere on the court and make buckets.
00:54:40
thedfsdeli
Doing it for a long time, obviously, one of the Hall of Famers on this list. But I got to slide them in at number five, because I think there's just, at this point of the game, I just think there's four more better four better shooters, scorers, ah offensive players than him. So maybe I stir up Scott's versus maybe I don't. I don't know. We'll see.
00:55:00
Chilly
I think that may be a little low for the goat.
00:55:04
thedfsdeli
Amen. You know, I'd still, Hey, listen, he's LeBron. He's, he's still LeBron.
00:55:10
Chilly
I think he's RMJ.
00:55:13
thedfsdeli
He's he can be MJ, but remember he ain't in his prom no more.
00:55:16
Chilly
I think he's... But he's a little bit better than the wizards.
00:55:22
thedfsdeli
He ain't in his prom no more. No, he definitely ain't. He ain't wizards. He ain't wizards level yet. All right.
00:55:31
Chilly
Thank you.
00:55:31
thedfsdeli
Ain't wizards level yet. Let's move on, let's move on number four, man. Let's move on number four. Let's see what we got here because you mentioned that number five, I'm gonna put him right at number four. I gotta go with the newly christened Hall of Famer, Jeremy Bennett. Number four, when the man is hot, he wins titles by himself. He was a little cold this year. Maybe that's not you know indicative of his play overall as the as the Hall of Famer that he is. But I've seen the man literally set an entire building ablaze with his shots. So I can't knock the guy for a down year. So I gots to put Mr Bennett number four on my list who you got number four.
00:56:15
Chilly
At number four, I still think, I mean, as of today, and I think this will, I think this will change, I think in the next year or two.
00:56:20
thedfsdeli
Today, today.
00:56:27
Chilly
But the still the most feared shooter in Michigan is still one Sam Kim.
00:56:34
thedfsdeli
Oh, you got Sam up to the list. Okay. Okay.
00:56:37
Chilly
right I again I still see the I still see the Seattle teams again they they they double Sam they don't let Sam shoot anytime you played Sam's team this year it was literally stop Sam yes he had other players on that team but again he they didn't have another elite level shooter yet on that team
00:57:02
Chilly
Obviously, you know, BJ's first year in a Beckett without a center. But again, man, Sam will still get my respect there at number four. Obviously, Sam has Timmy and Doug kind of calling up the list here, but I'm still going to slide in Sam at number four. Obviously, with Jeremy, we'll see what center or if he plays next year again. He's going to become a family man now. But again, I'm rolling with one Sam Kim in number four.
00:57:38
thedfsdeli
And then one was selected a Hall of Famer right outside the top three. But now that we're here, number three show you slotting in with the, with the elite of the elites resume.
00:57:47
Chilly
It's a resume pick.
00:57:51
thedfsdeli
Oh man.
00:57:52
Chilly
It's still, yeah.
00:57:52
thedfsdeli
You, you're putting the credentials in front. Oh man.
00:57:56
Chilly
Yeah, because I still think if you ask, if you still ask everybody Everybody I think is still taking one, James Gill.
00:58:05
thedfsdeli
The goat has made the top three in Chills list. Okay, okay.
00:58:10
thedfsdeli
All right.
00:58:10
Chilly
I mean, James, James obviously, I mean, he just got, I think, I believe going internationals, he just got that shoulder surgery.
00:58:20
Chilly
James' team is still one to be feared with James. He's still the scariest person that I think when you're literally sitting on the three-point line. at the beginning of the halftime or the game and there's not a damn thing you could do about it. You automatically just think you're going down three.
00:58:41
Chilly
Obviously he cooked our team, me included. Shout out to James.
00:58:47
Chilly
I think what James right now, obviously, just with age and maybe some health there, I got a slot James in at number three. So, you know, one of, if not one of the most feared offensive players in the game still today.
00:59:05
thedfsdeli
I love it. I love it. I'm not going to knock a Hall of Famer. Okay. I'm not going to be like, you can't put that guy there. I mean, come on. you know He's the goat. You know what I'm saying? I gotta respect that. But here's the pick that you're gonna hate. Here's the pick that a lot of people are gonna hate. And I don't give a damn. I watched and commentated that A Championship game and the team was put on this dude's back. You need to rewatch that series of games because you clearly didn't see Timmy put the whole squad on his back and almost take A.
00:59:48
thedfsdeli
This man was on a literal bender when it comes to shooting. No matter what angle it was, the dude was knocking it down. And I'm not saying just based off that game, but I think the resume was, I think his stamp was cemented. I think he got the seal of approval after that game because man, as much as like, I really can't stand the dude. Actually, I think he's a decent guy, but you know, on the court, different story, but comma, this dude can literally put an whole team on his back, which he did, by the way, as far as ascending scores.
01:00:31
thedfsdeli
We've all known his reputation from C and what he did in B or whatever, which was not a lot, but he still needed a little team around him. He got another team with Doug and Austin to A and got to the championship based off him putting ball in bucket. So as far as ascending shooters, he's like the new hotness. You know what I'm saying? He's the young gun. He's ah and Anthony Edwards. That's who I would compare him to right now.
01:00:58
Chilly
He's an ant man.
01:01:00
thedfsdeli
Hey, he's Ant-Man, he's Ant-Man. You know what I'm saying? So Timmy has cracked the top three in my book. I gotta go with Timmy.
01:01:08
Chilly
I mean, listen, I'm not going to argue against it, but I'll just put new blood at 10.
01:01:08
thedfsdeli
Hurts me to do it, but I gotta go with Timmy. Hey man, i like it I like the new blood, man.
01:01:16
Chilly
I got to put new blood at 10.
01:01:18
thedfsdeli
I like the new blood. I like the new blood. The old guard is changing over, it's changing over. So we got two slots left, chill. There's one dude that you and I have not said yet. Is he here or is he at one? Joe Tiffany's at number two for me.
Concluding Offensive Rankings
01:01:41
thedfsdeli
and no At number number two, one of the, one of the best high shots in the game can spray from anywhere on the court. Again, James Gill wants to take credit for teaching him that high shot. Guess what?
01:01:58
thedfsdeli
You made it a hot line, James. Joe Tiffany made it a hot song. That's what he does.
01:02:03
Chilly
Well, you put them at
01:02:05
thedfsdeli
But he's just not quite at the number one spot.
01:02:09
Chilly
number two.
01:02:09
thedfsdeli
I wanted to put him there, but it pains me to say that he's gonna go with two in my book. Who you got at number two?
01:02:17
Chilly
Damn.
01:02:19
thedfsdeli
Yeah, yeah.
01:02:20
Chilly
That's going to get some love in the comments.
01:02:25
thedfsdeli
I'm here for it. I'm here for it.
01:02:27
Chilly
Hilarious. At number two, I got, well, I don't think anybody has a question. Well, I got it, number one. I got number one to run it, mate. I got one Barrett Davis at number two.
01:02:41
thedfsdeli
okay okay hey
01:02:45
Chilly
I got Barrett Davis at number two. Again, high shot. I saw him single-handedly put away Texas with, what was it, seven threes, eight threes. Again, great shot. High shot. Has one of, if not the best race shot in the game right now.
01:03:06
thedfsdeli
Okay, okay, hey man, you know.
01:03:08
Chilly
and has one of the best post-up games, Tall Reach. If that man posts you're up, you're done. Don't care who you are. So I'm going to take one, Barrett Davis there at number two.
01:03:23
thedfsdeli
And finally, since we've already spoiled your number one, do you need to sing the praises of Joe Tiffany anymore than we've done?
01:03:28
Chilly
I do. I do. We got to give the man the flowers.
01:03:34
thedfsdeli
Go right ahead. Go right ahead. Tell me why. you Tell me why he's your number one.
01:03:45
Chilly
I don't know how much he would credit to James, but obviously Joe is probably one of the most, if not the most well-versed player in the game right now. Again, can knock down, again, post-up game, high shot, three-pointer, doesn't matter. All eyes on him when he's coming down the court. You want to talk about the looks. Anthony opens up for us. I can't imagine the looks. He opens up for some of these other guys. unselfish offensively. Again, I think right now he's just the best overall offensive player in the game. I have in my head of Barrett solely on the fact that he's, I think Barrett's a little more streakier than Joe is. I think Joe's more consistent right now than Barrett.
01:04:34
Chilly
But obviously, going to Seattle, I'm sure Barrett will shoot just fine. Just a hunch.
01:04:39
thedfsdeli
Uh, you think?
01:04:42
Chilly
But I think Joe is just more consistent. I think Barrett has a little more off games than Joe does. But obviously, both are amazing offensive players. But yeah, I got to put Joe Tiffany on number one, bro. Again, doesn't matter where on the court. He's literally a walking bucket. I got one. Joseph Tiffany at number one.
01:05:08
thedfsdeli
I respect that. Obviously it was a tough debate for me to put them at number one or do I slide them at number two? Because again, you had them and I'm mad at you because you put them a little too low on the list.
01:05:21
Chilly
I had him just right, bro.
01:05:22
thedfsdeli
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, listen, listen.
01:05:24
Chilly
I had him just right. Skip! Steven, hey!
01:05:32
thedfsdeli
and If a Texas player is go make it, he going all the way to the top. Chris Bolte is my number one. And I'll tell you why.
01:05:45
Chilly
Hey, hey, hold on real quick. If your team had the number one offensive player and the number two defensive player, or all right, so number one offense, number one defense, they were on the same team.
01:05:51
thedfsdeli
Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:58
Chilly
Were they finished?
01:05:58
thedfsdeli
Yeah.
01:05:59
Chilly
Were they finished?
01:06:01
thedfsdeli
In a or in unlimited.
01:06:02
Chilly
Oh, no. Hey,
01:06:06
thedfsdeli
but Where did they finish?
01:06:08
Chilly
they got knocked out by Barrett and his eight threes.
01:06:11
thedfsdeli
Amen. Is the team comprised?
01:06:13
Chilly
Steven A.
01:06:14
thedfsdeli
Is the team comprised?
01:06:14
Chilly
Steven A.
01:06:15
thedfsdeli
Is the team comprised of two? Now, now, wait a minute. Now, wait a minute.
01:06:20
Chilly
Steven A.
01:06:21
thedfsdeli
is the team comprised of two players of five players. They make up two players on a five man team. and I'm not saying it's anybody else's fault, but when you put number one with number one, you must be surrounded by some number fifties.
01:06:33
Chilly
You got docs on that team.
01:06:36
thedfsdeli
Okay.
01:06:40
thedfsdeli
Doc was what I put him at defender five man.
01:06:42
Chilly
He was fine.
01:06:44
thedfsdeli
That team underachieved that team underachieved.
01:06:53
Chilly
I wonder if there's this all blaming Brad reading.
01:06:56
thedfsdeli
right. Ross is in our top 10. Oh, he was on the other team. He was on the other team, right?
01:07:02
Chilly
No, Ross was on that team.
01:07:03
thedfsdeli
Oh, wait. Ross saw that team. He was picking. Oh my God.
01:07:06
Chilly
It gets worse.
01:07:08
thedfsdeli
It gets worse. Oh man. It's Brad's fault. It must be brass. well
01:07:17
thedfsdeli
ah Damn All these all stars, you know, picked up on both our list respectively. Maybe I'm just a Texas fan. Maybe maybe I'm just a Texas fan.
01:07:27
Chilly
I mean you mentioned Flores is one of your player, one of your favorite players.
01:07:33
thedfsdeli
I'm just a Texas. I'm just a Texas player.
01:07:34
Chilly
I mean,
01:07:34
thedfsdeli
Oh, oh, oh, we'll get to that chill. I will get to that.
01:07:40
Chilly
I get to see. I think Joe Tiffany might be on the flight here to confront you again.
01:07:46
thedfsdeli
Listen, man, I love Joe Tiffany.
01:07:47
Chilly
That man wasted 10 seconds seeing you in the center and had a word with you.
01:07:52
thedfsdeli
several words with me.
01:07:56
Chilly
Again, all in fun, Brad Reading. I don't know how your team got knocked out other than Barrett hit a shit ton of threes.
01:08:02
thedfsdeli
That team was so good.
01:08:03
Chilly
Probably not your fault. It's a great team. It was fun to play against, too.
01:08:07
thedfsdeli
Fudge dude. Oh man.
01:08:09
Chilly
Yeah, I mean I block for us
01:08:09
thedfsdeli
But yeah, you know, but and Back to back to but the original point, I think ball T is just a menace, no matter where how he's shooting. Again, he's got one of the best step back games in the in the in the whirly ball um can hit from anywhere on the court. I mean, just like a lot of these guys, all of these guys, actually, but I mean, just one on one, the dude is damn no unstoppable. So I mean, I got to factor that into there. And again, the unlimited performance, probably same thing. Um, but yeah, I got I got to take bolte as my number one man.
01:08:41
thedfsdeli
I gotta do it, gotta do it.
01:08:44
Chilly
So, uh, why would you who was on the bubble who didn't make the cut?
01:08:44
thedfsdeli
So, let's go ahead, go ahead.
01:08:50
thedfsdeli
Oh, the bubble was hard, man, because I had to leave Brad Peters off the list, man.
01:08:54
Chilly
Oh You left Peters off the list So
01:08:57
thedfsdeli
Yeah, like I really wanted to, I really needed him to be on the list, but I was like, who am I gonna take off? Like, do I take your brother off? Probably not. like dude like It was just so hard, man. like Brad Peters is a monster. An absolute menace.
01:09:14
Chilly
So I had a tie for 11. I had a tie for 11. I couldn't literally decide. So I copped up. So I had Eric and I had Dave Bernard at 11.
01:09:30
thedfsdeli
I was about to say, where the fuck is Eric LaPlate, baby? The hell?
01:09:35
Chilly
Listen, man. Listen, again, Eric is, although he's got the trigger, again in our game he shot great but it's the consistency I look again my shooters got to be consistent and I think everybody on this list I think minus one who I'm gonna keep to myself and
01:09:59
thedfsdeli
All right.
01:10:00
Chilly
it's not even family because I'll fuck Anthony but there is one person on this list who I probably would say is not consistent and they're in I'll tell you they are
01:10:03
thedfsdeli
Fair, fair.
01:10:12
Chilly
They are six or below.
01:10:15
thedfsdeli
Okay. All right. Well, looks like we got to rerun the footage.
01:10:18
Chilly
But I had Eric and Dave Bernard, and then I had Brad Botenya at 12.
01:10:19
thedfsdeli
You got to rerun the footage.
01:10:27
thedfsdeli
That's a that's a good one, too. Ah, Dave Bernard too, man. Damn. That's yep. That's another, that's another goat.
01:10:33
Chilly
it was tough. Like I said, man, the Michigan guys were so hard to rank and like what like Austin like Austin Willis, man, when he got his opportunities, although it wasn't a lot because he was setting up the other two that that man played great too. So but Austin was doing a lot of he's doing a lot of parking, as I call it.
01:10:53
thedfsdeli
Yeah. I mean, if we extended the list to 15, I think Austin makes it at 15.
01:10:57
Chilly
But, uh, Uh, and again, another one, another interesting one for Michigan was Johnner. Johnner doesn't shoot a lot from the outside, but man, it just works his car. Uh, again, and then, um, I think the other, and then the other one I really had truthfully was, uh, Carl from Seattle.
01:11:18
thedfsdeli
I so good inside.
01:11:21
Chilly
So Carl, uh, I thought it's a whirly ball, all the home, uh, hot Carl.
01:11:22
thedfsdeli
No homo.
01:11:26
thedfsdeli
ah You know what? No, no, no pause resume.
01:11:28
Chilly
Yeah.
01:11:28
thedfsdeli
You're absolutely right. You're right.
01:11:30
Chilly
No lube, no lube.
01:11:30
thedfsdeli
You're right. Yeah, without question without question.
01:11:34
Chilly
Aggressive. That's how we like it here on the East Coast edition.
01:11:37
thedfsdeli
Hell yeah, where we keeps it real.
01:11:39
Chilly
Real.
01:11:39
thedfsdeli
No protection. Okay. ah So yeah, one more homework assignment chill before we wrap it up.
01:11:46
Chilly
I got two answers.
01:11:49
thedfsdeli
I told you, I told you to make a team, bro.
01:11:51
Chilly
I did. I got two teams because one
01:11:54
thedfsdeli
How you gonna make two teams? No, no, I don't want to hear no two team bullshit.
01:11:56
Chilly
No, no, no, no, no, no. It's a real addition. I'm still a member of this. I can make some rules too.
01:12:02
thedfsdeli
Listen, man.
01:12:03
Chilly
I get one. One is heartfelt. And then the other one's my legit team.
01:12:06
thedfsdeli
Okay. Okay, heartfelt.
01:12:09
Chilly
It's heartfelt.
01:12:09
thedfsdeli
All right, let's spew off the heartfelt squad.
01:12:11
Chilly
The heartfelt squad is Chileola, Anthonyola, Billy Ola, Johnny Ola, and then the only person I think in Whirly Ball that can play with four Olas and not go crazy, Jeremy.
01:12:35
thedfsdeli
I'm glad you're speaking from the heart.
01:12:38
Chilly
That's the heartfelt theme.
01:12:39
thedfsdeli
Okay, okay i'll i'll let I'll let that one slide.
01:12:40
Chilly
I don't know if I'll ever get the opportunity again to play with the other two older Olas. But that one's heartfelt.
01:12:50
thedfsdeli
I respect it. I'll let that one slide. I'll let that one slide. So again, the the other squad I asked you to put together. Remember, these are guys that you have to you play with no matter how good, quote unquote, they are, but guys that you feel like you would mesh with, win with, and ultimately have fucking fun.
Crafting a Dream Team
01:13:08
thedfsdeli
Because that's what the game is about.
01:13:09
Chilly
Yeah, well, I have fun when I'm winning.
01:13:09
thedfsdeli
Let's have a little fun out there. So.
01:13:13
Chilly
So there you go.
01:13:13
thedfsdeli
Oh, man. Let me guess. Joe Tiffany, James Gill.
01:13:18
Chilly
There you go.
01:13:18
thedfsdeli
um
01:13:19
Chilly
There you go.
01:13:19
thedfsdeli
but
01:13:20
Chilly
You got two, right?
01:13:22
thedfsdeli
Brad Peters and Barrett Davis.
01:13:25
Chilly
Now, wait. Now, I do got a question for the list. Is it current players, or am I allowed to go back in time?
01:13:31
thedfsdeli
Current, current, current.
01:13:32
Chilly
It's got to be current.
01:13:32
thedfsdeli
Now you know now if you want to throw in a retro pick, okay, yeah, throw in a little retro because we got to respect the people that paved the way.
01:13:35
Chilly
I do got a retro.
01:13:38
Chilly
All right.
01:13:41
thedfsdeli
So by all means, go right ahead.
01:13:43
Chilly
All right. So I got me. as the captain of
01:13:47
thedfsdeli
so wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait before before we before we guys cause i've already spoilt two of them so we'll go we'll go one by one okay so we can fill out the roster
01:13:57
Chilly
the ship.
01:13:58
thedfsdeli
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01:14:17
Chilly
It's one, can't call him by anything else, but one, Joseph Tiffany.
01:14:23
thedfsdeli
Well, you know, since, since Joe Tiffany, of course, would be off the board and he would just yell at me the entire time on the court, you know, I wouldn't going to pick him anyway. So, you know, that's fine.
01:14:33
Chilly
He's definitely flying here.
01:14:35
thedfsdeli
He could do whatever he wants. I'd love to have a few, few drinks with him and, you know, power out, talk some whirly ball and so he can curse me out, whatever. It's fine. But you know, first person is coming off the board for me is of course, you know, your boy ball T. If he's number one on the offensive end, he's got to come to the squad. So me and Bolte are going to be pairing up to go to start off with. Got to go with Bolte on this one. So will you take it? Will you take it second if you got Joe Tiffany?
01:15:06
thedfsdeli
I mean, I know the GOATs on your team is the GOAT, the second pick.
01:15:08
Chilly
yeah i mean i mean i need i need a guy to set screens so i'm uh going with james gill i
01:15:15
thedfsdeli
You're going to have James Gilson.
01:15:19
Chilly
mean i need somebody to get me the ball and set me some screens so uh i i made that shot it's one for one that play is one for one
01:15:24
thedfsdeli
Bitch set me a screen. Damn right. That's the that's the classic play in Cleveland. Don't ever try to steal it by the way. It's bitch set me a screen.
01:15:49
thedfsdeli
You need go energy out there. You need go energy. Well, speaking of energy, you know, I got, I need somebody that's gonna, that's gonna a set me some screens. You know what I'm saying? I need somebody that's go occupied to inside Mr.
01:16:01
Chilly
you know I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm
01:16:02
thedfsdeli
Intensity of himself. I need Zach Johnner on my squad, bro. I need Johnner on the squad.
01:16:06
Chilly
That's a good pick. That's a good pick.
01:16:09
thedfsdeli
I need you.
01:16:09
Chilly
Good pick.
01:16:12
Chilly
That's a good pick.
01:16:13
thedfsdeli
Got to
01:16:17
Chilly
That's good pick.
01:16:18
thedfsdeli
get Johnner out there. Got to get Johnner, man. You got intensity on the court, bro. I need it. I need it in my life.
01:16:23
Chilly
That's good. That's good. That's good.
01:16:26
thedfsdeli
Nice director out there, you know?
01:16:29
Chilly
All right.
01:16:29
thedfsdeli
Gotta have him. So who start overall on your squad? Who start overall?
01:16:35
Chilly
I mean technically it's fourth if you include me, but third here.
01:16:40
thedfsdeli
We were captaining, so we're not picking ourselves.
01:16:42
Chilly
Yeah, so I need a little bit of Michigan love.
01:16:42
thedfsdeli
You've already picked ourselves.
01:16:47
Chilly
I need somebody who's gonna play for the team. I need somebody who could light them up. I need one Jeremy Bennett.
01:16:56
thedfsdeli
Hey, listen, man. if If it was a snake draft, okay, I would have picked Bennett in front of you. Because Jeremy was on my squad too. But if we want to differentiate, you know what I'm saying? You keep Jeremy, I'll let you have more Hall of Fame clout. All right, I'll let you have it.
01:17:17
thedfsdeli
But I got it.
01:17:18
Chilly
Well, my team's my team's all Hall of Famers, including me eventually.
01:17:21
thedfsdeli
That's including you, of course, of course.
01:17:23
Chilly
Probably not.
01:17:25
thedfsdeli
So if you would take the old guard, the Hall of Famer, you know what? I would switch the game up and take the young gun.
Memorable Former Players
01:17:33
thedfsdeli
Me and Timmy can play together. I think me and Timmy can do it. Give me Timmy to light up a scoreboard on that ass. I would take Timmy on the squad. And all these people that we done routed off, I would want to take the young gun. Give me Timmy. I want to roll with Timmy.
01:17:55
thedfsdeli
me to boy who who's filling out the roster who's filling out the roster chill i
01:18:01
Chilly
Now, so again, so I had to ask, or again, because you said all time when you texted me earlier.
01:18:09
thedfsdeli
did so we could i mean you can do you can do one you can do uh a former player current player because i swear to god if you're about to say mike wall i'm gonna punch you in the mouth motherfucker
01:18:09
Chilly
So,
01:18:12
Chilly
I mean, you better get ready to punch me in the mouth, son.
01:18:21
thedfsdeli
dude
01:18:21
Chilly
I'm taking one, Mike Waugh. Give me Shaquille O'Neal. prime Shaq that's Lakers Shaq. This man made Clint Fisher cry the last time I saw him play unlimited.
01:18:36
thedfsdeli
And listen, man, if we're going back in the past, I would have to just counter pick and get Trevor.
01:18:41
Chilly
I'm still taking Mike. I'm still taking Mike.
01:18:43
thedfsdeli
I mean, I get it. I get it. I get it. But but if what if Mike's not eligible, let's say, because he wasn't on the current roster of last year, who would fill out the squad show?
01:18:53
Chilly
Alright, so if I'm taking out Mike, I'm gonna let you go with you. Let me uh let me snake through my list here.
01:19:03
thedfsdeli
Chill, you already know who I want to play with the most in whirly ball.
01:19:07
Chilly
Bro, there ain't enough balls.
01:19:09
thedfsdeli
Oh, there is pretty, there's this, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
01:19:10
Chilly
Him and Timmy? Him and Timmy? No way. No. He hit that no fucking way bro button.
01:19:15
thedfsdeli
I'm saying it, I'm saying it, I'm saying it.
01:19:18
Chilly
Hey, no way.
01:19:19
thedfsdeli
No, I control the soundboard.
01:19:20
Chilly
No way.
01:19:21
thedfsdeli
I control the soundboard, okay?
01:19:22
Chilly
Hey, no way. There's not enough balls on the court for Timmy.
01:19:24
thedfsdeli
Nah fam, nah, fuck you, fuck you.
01:19:28
Chilly
Ain't no way bro, no way.
01:19:30
thedfsdeli
Nah, wait, wait. Bro, if you already know who I'm talking about, my favorite player in the game. You want to talk about intensity. You want to talk about passion. And if Joe Tiffany was in the background, he ain't won nothing. Fuck him. No, fuck you, Joe. All right. I'm playing with Chris Flores and I'm gonna have a good fucking time doing it. That's my man's. That's some my homie. And I would roll with that man to the day I die on this court.
Anecdotes and Humor
01:20:01
thedfsdeli
Texas, if y'all ever got a spot, and I can play with Clis Flores, let me the fuck know. I'm in no questions about it. Put Flores on my motherfucking team, please. Fuck your Hall of Fame squad. Fuck Mike Wall. Fuck them all, all right? Me and Flores is about to go ham on these motherfuckers.
01:20:28
Chilly
I'm the only one team, only one team's getting fucked here.
01:20:28
thedfsdeli
That's not, not, not fucked up.
01:20:32
Chilly
All right, let's be real.
01:20:32
thedfsdeli
We'll see what I mean. Well, we won't see, but we can, you know, we can throw it in the AI simulation and see how many times the squad would win over mine.
01:20:40
Chilly
Put it in chat, GPT, all right?
01:20:42
thedfsdeli
Yeah. okay You think that she knows, have our players, you know what, for S's and G's, I'm going to type it in.
01:20:46
Chilly
Nope. I feel like, hey, out of this list, who wins?
01:20:53
thedfsdeli
It's going to be like, I'm unfamiliar with it. You're going to pull the shack. I'm unfamiliar with their game.
01:20:59
Chilly
I'm.
01:21:02
Chilly
All right so for me here so I'm taking a look here gathering processing. Guys I could do it all right.
01:21:10
thedfsdeli
Oh, it's so hard to pick around my wall.
01:21:13
Chilly
I mean it's a little tough he's our he's an all right player. Is I.
01:21:17
thedfsdeli
Slightly good, slightly, slightly above average, I would say.
01:21:19
Chilly
He's okay he's okay he's like he's like Seattle's thirteenth
01:21:25
thedfsdeli
Damn, right.
01:21:28
Chilly
and he'll drop fifty on this next year.
01:21:32
thedfsdeli
And the first half
Final Team Selections
01:21:33
Chilly
Bro, right? Yeah, he'll literally take a four-point penalty. He's just walking off the court.
01:21:34
thedfsdeli
of a seeding game.
01:21:40
thedfsdeli
Oh yeah.
01:21:40
Chilly
Be like, yeah, well, you guys only need four now.
01:21:42
thedfsdeli
Hey, was it? Wasn't this the cat that literally took someone else to scoop that one year in Cleveland and put it in his cart and stomped it and then threw it out his cart?
01:21:49
Chilly
That was in Michigan. That was Brian Crosby took Tommy Scoop.
01:21:55
thedfsdeli
Ah, Brian Crosby. Yeah.
01:21:56
thedfsdeli
That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right.
01:21:56
Chilly
Yeah, he took Tommy's scoop, stomped it out.
01:22:00
Chilly
Tommy was looking at the ref like, question mark? And yeah, Crosby literally did a river dance on that scoop. Hilarious.
01:22:09
thedfsdeli
What a moment.
01:22:10
Chilly
Yeah, it was hilarious to see. All right, so I need...
01:22:16
thedfsdeli
Come on, man, let's wrap it up, dawg.
01:22:17
Chilly
Hey man, hey man.
01:22:17
thedfsdeli
You got one player out of all these motherfuckers, man.
01:22:20
Chilly
Hey, man, I'm a thinker. I'm a thinker.
01:22:22
thedfsdeli
Got weeks to think about it.
01:22:23
Chilly
I'm going to get a little Texas representation. I'm going to tell this guy. He's fucking playing some defense, whether he likes it or not.
01:22:32
thedfsdeli
Ross.
01:22:32
Chilly
It's Ross. I mean, especially after I blocked his ass one on one. Yeah, you got to play a little defense, bro. You got to play a little defense.
01:22:40
thedfsdeli
Damn.
01:22:42
Chilly
You can't shoot over me.
01:22:42
thedfsdeli
Let him know.
01:22:43
Chilly
You can't shoot over me. Come on. What are you doing against that team? Knock it off.
01:22:46
thedfsdeli
He just thought you were KB for a moment and then was like, Oh, easy money. Barbecue chicken.
01:22:50
Chilly
Yeah, yeah, nah, nah.
01:22:54
thedfsdeli
Oh man.
01:22:54
Chilly
I'll tell you, I'll get a little Texas representation. I'll take me one Ross.
01:22:58
thedfsdeli
I got my Texas representation. When me a floor is like that ass up son.
01:23:02
Chilly
You got two Texas guys.
01:23:04
thedfsdeli
Oh, I do. Yeah. Me and boltie. Yeah. That's right.
01:23:07
Chilly
Yeah, and then Timmy and Flores are shooting 99% of the shots.
01:23:12
thedfsdeli
That's fine. Whenever they go cold, just give it to boltie and get out of his fucking way.
01:23:18
thedfsdeli
genre will just be the consistent team player. yeah Just setting everybody up.
Draft Thoughts and Community Feedback
01:23:24
thedfsdeli
It'll be nice.
01:23:27
thedfsdeli
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01:23:54
Chilly
Yeah, I mean, we can put it in the chat. Who's list one? I mean, we can see what the community says.
01:24:00
thedfsdeli
Oh, I'm just going to get past. I don't fucking care.
01:24:03
Chilly
Also, if we would have had a little more time here, we could have did the poll of, we talked about it at nationals, but older siblings versus younger siblings.
01:24:19
thedfsdeli
That sounds like another. That sounds like another show, bro.
01:24:21
Chilly
It sounds like a game that just needs to happen at Nationals on an open court. Us younger folk would whip that ass, but I mean, I got the guy. I got fucking Superman on my team.
01:24:39
Chilly
And I got Slim. I'm ready to go.
01:24:42
thedfsdeli
You got you, you do get the Reaper.
01:24:44
thedfsdeli
You do get the Reaper.
01:24:44
Chilly
I do get the reap.
01:24:48
Chilly
But yeah, man, I think that game would be highly entertaining.
01:24:53
thedfsdeli
Alright, you want to do younger versus older siblings. I want to do ah black versus girls.
01:25:00
Chilly
Ooh, ooh, hold on. Wait a minute. So hold on. Ooh, that would be, that could be, that would be entertaining.
01:25:08
thedfsdeli
the I think so. You know, ah we're no, you know, we're just talking Christie, right?
01:25:16
Chilly
That's when Cheryl light them up.
01:25:23
thedfsdeli
really I just need one person to stay on freaking ah Georgia's wife. And we cool. Me and Carl is just gonna dog Christie and fucking just let it rip from there. Just let Austin go to work one on one down low. We could, we should be cool.
01:25:40
Chilly
I mean, going back to Seattle, you may have a little more women representation on their end as well, so that would be interesting to see.
01:25:47
thedfsdeli
Yeah, but we won't have more black representation. So I mean, what the fuck?
01:25:50
Chilly
Now you may get one, and we'll actually call him Joseph.
01:25:54
thedfsdeli
Uh?
01:25:55
Chilly
We played a long time ago. His name was Joseph Tinsley.
01:25:59
thedfsdeli
Well, if...
01:25:59
Chilly
And we actually called him Joseph, but we can't call. We have to call him Joe Tiffany. Joe Tiffany.
01:26:04
thedfsdeli
Well, if he wants to come and and play, that makes five, because right now our fifth is Chi-Kwon, so...
01:26:10
Chilly
The yellow team
01:26:12
thedfsdeli
Yeah, man. Black and yellow. Black and yellow, black and yellow, black and yellow.
01:26:17
Chilly
don't need black.
01:26:19
thedfsdeli
Well, they ain't got a full squad, what the fuck? They got five Asians?
01:26:24
Chilly
work there they're probably close right so we got uh we got sam we got batenya qi kwon steve question mark steve steve are you asian so we put it in the chat
01:26:40
thedfsdeli
On that note, thanks for everybody for listening. We'll see you guys on the next one. Peace out. Oh my god.