Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
Avatar
101 Plays4 days ago

The dust has settled, the champions have been crowned, and we've finally had a chance to catch our breath after an unforgettable 2026 National Whirlyball Tournament. In this episode of What in the Whirl: East Edition, we look back at the biggest weekend in the sport and break down everything that happened in Novi.

From championship runs and surprise upsets to breakout performances and controversial moments, we discuss what we loved, what left us scratching our heads, and what the tournament means for the future of Whirlyball. We go division by division, recapping every champion, highlighting the teams that exceeded expectations, and giving credit to the players who made the biggest impact all weekend.

Of course, no East Edition episode would be complete without a few spirited debates. We hand out our unofficial awards, revisit our pre-tournament predictions (for better or worse), and tackle the most important question of them all: Who is truly pure of heart enough to ride the Nimbus Cloud? Some players earned legendary status... others may have crashed before takeoff.

Whether you competed in Novi, followed the action from home, or just want to relive the highs and lows of Nationals weekend, this is your complete 2026 tournament recap.

Buckle up—because we're putting one last spin on Nationals before looking ahead to what's next.

#Whirlyball #Nationals2026 #WhatInTheWhirl #EastEdition #TournamentRecap #Novi #WhirlyballNationals #NimbusCloud

Recommended
Transcript

Podcast Resumes & Independence

00:00:01
Sully Shaheed
After a few week break of recovering from Nationals competition, 2026 in Novi, Michigan, we are one of the podcasts that is not contractually obligated to produce episodes. so we get to do what we want, say what we want and produce shows when we damn want, but we are back in the building. This is what in the world East edition, the real edition. It is time for the Nationals recap. Here we go.

Nationals 2026 Recap Introduction

00:00:40
Sully Shaheed
a And welcome in to what in the world East edition, the real edition, the Midwest edition. We are back recapping the 2026 national tournaments held in at Novi, Michigan. I am your host, Sully Ali Shahid, joined by, of course, Chili. Hola, Chili. Welcome back to the show, man. What is going on? What's new in the world of Whirlyball?
00:01:02
Chilly
Hey, man, it's glad to be back. Nationals was cool this year. yeah You know, excited to get our opinions out there. um I know the, ah you know, the other podcast streets and, you know, the the Texas guys there on Twitch, they don't dare come after us for being contractually obligated to do episodes. They know better.
00:01:24
Chilly
Just like we never made it to kangaroo court. My family never made it to kangaroo court for bedazzled scoops ah because they know they they know. Don't don't do it.
00:01:34
Chilly
um But now I'm glad to be back here, are you know, ready to keep it real on some topics and and just get ready to let's let's let's shoot the shit as they call it here, you know.
00:01:47
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, yeah, we're going to shoot some shit, man, because i am not, as much as I said off air, I love you, i am not. not talking to you for two hours about early ball. It's just not going to happen. Nor am I breaking this podcast up into multiple parts. We have the recap episode. And then we have, of course, the vaunted top 10 episode that will be produced next week or the week after, or whenever the hell we feel like it, because, know,
00:02:11
Sully Shaheed
this is what we do.

Teasing Top 10 Episode & Listener Engagement

00:02:12
Sully Shaheed
You know, I got a football podcast to start up with you as well. So like we, we, you know, yeah i got, we got stuff going on, man.
00:02:15
Chilly
We know
00:02:18
Sully Shaheed
I just, you know, I got kids, you know what saying? You got sports. Like I just, we in this world all streets when we can. Okay. So forgive us.
00:02:26
Chilly
do. we yeah Do we cheat plug the our top 10 episode? do we Again, if you want to... I'm not saying we can be bought or our opinions can be bought.
00:02:39
Chilly
If you want to be on the top 10 and you have an opinion or you want to point something else to it, a case to be made.
00:02:46
Sully Shaheed
A case to be made?
00:02:49
Chilly
The DMs are open. Timmy, I know you're going to want to be number one. Send me a paragraph. All right. Use AI if you have to. All right, Kyle, I know you're listening. I know you're going to want to be in the top three.
00:03:03
Chilly
i get it. um Again here, glaze me up. All right. um
00:03:09
Sully Shaheed
Right. Right. That's it. It's pretty simple.

Criteria for Top Players & Gooey Ducks' Performance

00:03:12
Sully Shaheed
It's pretty simple.
00:03:12
Chilly
I will say so far I'm almost done with Friday for a seating again ah for my list specifically you have to be playing an a ah that's just my set of rules Sully's will be different ah so basically if you're not a if you're not an a player you're not going to be on my list if you don't like it tough shit come up to a and deal with me and take it up up there but other than that fuck off
00:03:37
Sully Shaheed
what about so What about graduating a players? Because we'll get to it when we recap the tournament. But there' there's certain members of the Gooey Ducks that that are qualified for A now. would they be considered as A players?
00:03:51
Chilly
No, no, they won B.
00:03:53
Sully Shaheed
Oh.
00:03:53
Chilly
They won They absolutely bitch smacked their other Seattle team in the final. We'll cover that when we get to B. ah They apparently beat the hell out of the team that would beat some A teams in the final.
00:04:07
Chilly
i Thought that was a little bit thought but that was a little bit weird.
00:04:08
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:04:11
Chilly
You know, coming from the other podcast, I still got to finish. Again, we'll cover that when we gotta. ah But no, again, shout out to those guys.
00:04:17
Sully Shaheed
no
00:04:20
Chilly
They play great. They're B champs. They're not on my list. Congratulations to them. They can try to make the list next year if they are playing a I know Seattle will have to figure out all their shit out because they have nothing but an army of players.
00:04:36
Chilly
So, again.
00:04:36
Sully Shaheed
yeah Yeah, yeah. The Caval Code of Talent, as it were, in Seattle. Yes, yes.
00:04:43
Chilly
Yes.
00:04:43
Sully Shaheed
Very true, very true. Oh, chill. I was um actually, disclaimer, um because you you've already you've already crossed that line. um I was informed, and you know I didn't realize it at the time, but we now have adolescent ah listeners to the podcast, 13, 14, 12-year-olds. So we might have to reel back the language, as it were.
00:05:07
Chilly
Come on, man. Come on. If their parent...
00:05:10
Sully Shaheed
it's
00:05:11
Chilly
Listen, if they're listening to this podcast and their parents don't like it, their parent can parent. it right Turn it off. Be a parent.
00:05:18
Sully Shaheed
That's true. That's true. Well, my disclaimer is, you know, all the kids listening can off because don't really care.
00:05:20
Chilly
Be a parent. Yeah.
00:05:24
Sully Shaheed
So it is what it is, man.
00:05:25
Chilly
Yeah. Yeah.

Nationals Recap Structure & Highlights

00:05:27
Sully Shaheed
You're here to listen to some whirly ball adults for the most part playing the bumper car sport.
00:05:27
Chilly
Listen.
00:05:33
Chilly
Listen.
00:05:33
Sully Shaheed
We're going to talk about some vulgar topics.
00:05:35
Chilly
Listen, you know you know how many disgusting, weird things those kids heard in D from the one Chicago team?
00:05:41
Sully Shaheed
True.
00:05:43
Chilly
i
00:05:43
Sully Shaheed
True. That's true.
00:05:44
Chilly
they're point You know how many weird, disgusting things they probably heard at the center all weekend? We we are the least.
00:05:49
Sully Shaheed
o
00:05:50
Chilly
We are the least of their concern.
00:05:53
Sully Shaheed
You got a great point. I'll give you that. Point, point, point, Chile. Point, Chile. So we're going to do a little back and forth.
00:05:58
Chilly
Yeah.
00:05:59
Sully Shaheed
We're going to discuss some likes, some dislikes, our favorite moments, our worst moments from Nationals. Then, of course, obviously dive into the divisional breakdown, give some props to the winners, runners up, ah you know, who let us down, who surprised us.
00:06:13
Sully Shaheed
um And then kind of could just go, you know, back and forth to the shooting the shit podcast. You know, we'll get our jabs in every now and then. But, you know, there's going to be a lot of kudos to be, you know given out. However, going reel it back some too and and keep it real with everybody. So, chill. I mean, let's let let's start. let's Let's start with a little little back and forth. We're going to go to a little little compliment sandwich you know for for Nationals for a little recap real quick. to like, we're gonna dislike, like, dislike, you know, just make a make a nice Big Mac out of the National scene. So, why don't you hit me with something that you liked from Nationals? What what what did you like?
00:06:53
Chilly
I mean, in terms of what did I like from Nationals, um
00:07:00
Chilly
what did I like? I mean, I thought the play, I thought the actual play of Worley Ball was really good this year. um i think this year's D division was really strong in terms of talented players.
00:07:13
Chilly
ah So I appreciate that. Again, always keeping the sport growing. um I do appreciate the Novi Center for being huge and being able to ah you know you know host all of us in there, which is pretty cool.
00:07:24
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:07:30
Chilly
um Again here, so I thought the play of Worley Ball was cool. um I didn't really have any problems with the cars. thought the cars were fine.
00:07:41
Chilly
um Yeah, so those couple couple things that I liked. So, yeah, I thought the play of orderly ball was good from all four divisions. um So I think that was pretty good. Again, i think this year's D division talent was super strong.
00:07:57
Chilly
um a lot of potential A lot of potential A players in that class. So I'm excited for them.
00:08:04
Sully Shaheed
Excellent. So you like the you like the play and you like the the growing talent in the D division. I'll tell you what I liked, Joe. I liked the wide variety of uniforms, uniforms and team names. The sport is just growing exponentially to the point where we're getting props on the court. I mean, did you see the goofballs in World War C with the helmets?
00:08:25
Sully Shaheed
That shit was hilarious. The Mean Worlds with their awesome jerseys.
00:08:28
Chilly
I assume... I...
00:08:30
Sully Shaheed
I mean, like there was a lot going on.
00:08:33
Chilly
I assume they dusted off those helmets from Lee's cop closet. I assume those weren't store-bought, right?
00:08:38
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I'm sure Lee supplied all of those helmets.
00:08:40
Chilly
she point
00:08:41
Sully Shaheed
They were like, guys, I got you. I got you.
00:08:43
Chilly
Yeah.
00:08:43
Sully Shaheed
Don't worry. Don't worry.
00:08:44
Chilly
I actually fought in the war.
00:08:44
Sully Shaheed
I got it.
00:08:45
Chilly
Hmm.
00:08:47
Sully Shaheed
He served when he was like 50.
00:08:52
Chilly
Hmm.
00:08:53
Sully Shaheed
But yeah, I mean, i love the variety. I love the content that these guys get creative with the jerseys and the team names. They get funnier and funnier every year. um It's just a testament to how the sport is growing and it's awesome to see. So That's one of the things I liked about this year was was the wide variety of stuff. And I get to add to my collection. As you know, I collected Rafael's jersey from him winning A last year. This year, I get to claim a Gooey Duck jersey from Chief Keefe.
00:09:22
Sully Shaheed
So he he donated his jersey or one of his jerseys to me. It's going to go right on one of the a little plaque things that I'm going to get ah to go next to Rafael. So i think that's pretty cool. So Year after year, i like to put my support behind some players and some teams.
00:09:37
Sully Shaheed
And Chief Keefe and his squad didn't let me down. They went and got the job done. And I thought it was pretty cool that he was willing to give me his jersey. So thanks. Thanks, Chief Keefe. I appreciate that.
00:09:48
Sully Shaheed
Chili, hit me with something that you didn't like from Nationals.

Challenges & Improvements at Nationals

00:09:52
Chilly
We couldn't fix the goddamn backboard.
00:09:56
Sully Shaheed
You're right.
00:09:57
Chilly
We have all these all these fucking mechanically inclined people all this fucking time and we couldn't fix we couldn't fix the backboard? damn really
00:10:13
Chilly
this st god damn it
00:10:15
Sully Shaheed
That was rather annoying. You hit and bing, and then you're thinking, nope, no good. Then the ref's got to be on no good. You think the possession's over, but it's not over. But then you got to keep playing as it didn't go in and whatever. So, yeah, that that backboard thing killed me.
00:10:28
Chilly
Yeah. And, and again here, man, this is not a shot at the center specifically. um And again, we we've said it before ah set center food is just always subpar.
00:10:41
Sully Shaheed
that That was going to lean into my my first dislike was, remember, guys, there are vegetarians in the community. We don't eat meat. So you're fucking hot dogs.
00:10:54
Sully Shaheed
No one wants that. Well, not no one, but several of us don't want that shit. And I'm not saying you got to like be half and half or whatever, but like. Seattle, ah chef's kiss. Every freaking day had a non-meat vegetarian option. Whether it was burgers, they gave us Beyond Burgers. whether Whatever day they had, they had something for us. So like me, Rebecca Morris, I know there' morris there's there's other vegetarians in the community.
00:11:20
Sully Shaheed
Your food was ass, okay? And I get it. Clint Fisher pulled me aside and said, the one thing that they're bitching about is the food. I think I did a good job. Well, you know what? If I'm paying $285 or whatever the fuck I paid,
00:11:31
Sully Shaheed
Like, I want to eat good. You know what I'm saying? Because, and not even good. I just want to eat, to period. I didn't want to have a plate of fries and some goddamn salad that I paid for, you know, X amount to get, okay?
00:11:45
Sully Shaheed
I didn't eat the third day at all. So thank God there was a tubbies right up the street that I just walked to. But still, the food is ass. that that was that was' in That was a straight F for the year, period.
00:11:58
Chilly
Yeah. and And again, here, again, all center food. It's just, it's, it's never a good look for the most part. Hey, you.
00:12:07
Sully Shaheed
I don't know. Like I said, Seattle tore it up, man. ain't going hold you. Seattle was kind of raw. Seattle did a good job.
00:12:14
Chilly
Again, man, it's center center food, man. I'd rather just buy my own food. I'd rather just.
00:12:20
Sully Shaheed
Well, you can you can buy two hot dogs and whatever the fuck Paul was trying to sell at our center are here for six bucks.
00:12:25
Chilly
Yeah, listen say listen listen, our center food, you know, eat home when we host it, it's not the greatest, right? Let's be real.
00:12:36
Sully Shaheed
Right. I know. I know.
00:12:37
Chilly
Right.
00:12:37
Sully Shaheed
But still.
00:12:38
Chilly
know it We know it was ass.
00:12:38
Sully Shaheed
Still. Right. Right. ah Hit me up again with something that you liked. give me give me another Give me another layer to the sandwich. Give me some tomato on that sandwich.
00:12:47
Chilly
Man, the youth.
00:12:50
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:12:50
Chilly
Man, we mentioned it.
00:12:50
Sully Shaheed
Youth movement. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:52
Chilly
man Man, the youth, you know, it was cool to see all the, I mean, like all of these kids playing and not only were they playing, they were, the majority of them were actually better than the the people they were playing against.
00:13:06
Chilly
So it was, it was cool to see.
00:13:07
Sully Shaheed
Right.
00:13:08
Chilly
It's cool to see the youth movement out there. Hopefully they all stick with it. um You know, that way I could play against them in a couple of years or at this point, I don't play with them at an invite or something, but yeah,
00:13:15
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:13:21
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. by Eli cadence Owen. I mean like they there's youth movement, man. I like it. I like it.
00:13:27
Chilly
Yeah, so, man, the youth movement, that that was cool. that was That was cool to see.
00:13:32
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I'm go i'm actually going to tack on to that point. I'm going to say the gender movement as well. We had a lot of female representation.
00:13:40
Chilly
We did. We did, man. They showed up.
00:13:43
Sully Shaheed
Hell yeah. Yeah, we got some young Christie's out there, right?
00:13:44
Chilly
The women.
00:13:47
Chilly
Yeah, man, the women of Worley Ball, shout out to y'all, man. Y'all played amazing. um You know, yeah
00:13:54
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, unfortunately, we don't have time on this podcast to name every single one. I'm not going to do that, but just know the women of Worley Ball, we appreciate you, and you guys played excellent.
00:14:04
Chilly
Yeah, you guys, y'all killed it, man. So shout out. Shout out to the women of Whirly Ball. You guys were awesome.
00:14:11
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely. um I'm going to hit you with another like. The creativity, although majority AI generated, of the Burn book. I thought that was such a cool addition to the Whirly Ball community. Something fun um that people can participate in themselves.
00:14:28
Sully Shaheed
I thought that was really cool. And it was ah it was a motivating factor for someone because I made it four goddamn times. But, you know, it's just that's just love from the community.
00:14:37
Chilly
well
00:14:38
Sully Shaheed
So I i appreciate
00:14:38
Chilly
They like they like you I was in the burn book. I thought mine was hilarious.
00:14:43
Sully Shaheed
i thought I thought I didn't take offense to anything, and I thought it was absolutely hilarious. So I think doing stuff like that and things that you can contribute to with was definitely a like for Nationals 2026. Hit me up with another one, man. What what else did you dislike at Nationals?
00:15:04
Chilly
dislike. Um,
00:15:07
Sully Shaheed
Because if the dislike list is short, that's a good thing, right? I mean, like, I think we're doing pretty well.
00:15:12
Chilly
yeah, I mean, there wasn't too many things that really pissed me off other than the backboard really. And other than that, that yeah you know, got backboard food again. I thought the car was refined.
00:15:26
Chilly
It's easy to always point out the reffing, but I didn't really, i didn't have a, I didn't have a problem with the reps of my game. So ah I mean, losing sucks, but that's not the center's fault.
00:15:42
Sully Shaheed
Fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough. um I mean, my my only major dislike minus that was, um you know, and again, I guess it was. More so my fault was ah injuries. No one likes to play hurt. No one likes to play, um you know, ah down like your your maximum capabilities. Right. So I was hurt throughout. ah Gil got hurt a little bit. There was some people with some some travel issues, flight issues. I know Kalen's wife was going through some things.
00:16:10
Sully Shaheed
um You know, like it sucks when the community is affected like that. um You know, what was it? Matty Ice's family going through things as well. So, I mean, i hate it that health plays a factor in the game. I know it's a part of it. It's part of every sport.
00:16:25
Sully Shaheed
But if we could just come together once a year for a Nationals environment and not have anyone hurt, He wasn't having with family issues. That would be great. Like, just let's let's just limit the drama. you know what I'm saying? Like, so that was that was a dislike.
00:16:40
Sully Shaheed
But other than that, um I think it was a pretty solid

Innovations & Rules Suggestions for Whirlyball

00:16:43
Sully Shaheed
tournament. Big ups to Clint Fisher and Cheryl for taking care of that sweet, sweet schedule. I thought that was pretty cool. They kept everybody on time and on task. So we were never really backed up. The only time we were backed up was because some D game wanted to go to four fucking overtimes.
00:17:01
Sully Shaheed
So that was cool. Thanks for pushing everything back. Assholes, four overtimes.
00:17:08
Chilly
It was a good game.
00:17:09
Sully Shaheed
You know what we should do, Chil? Is this should be like soccer, right? after regulation, after stoppage time, they should go to penalty kicks. Instead of penalty kicks, you take your goalie and you take your best shooter and you got 10 seconds to go one-on-one and score a bucket.
00:17:27
Sully Shaheed
If you can't do it, switch sides. And then that we go back and forth, first to three points. I think that would be a sweet way to solve an overtime game.
00:17:34
Chilly
now Not mad. I think you just do it. Uh... So I think you play your two overtime periods. Okay.
00:17:41
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:17:41
Chilly
And if it's still tied, then like you said, we go to like penalty kicks. So, ah but it's, again, there's five people. so best of five, right? So, you know, you could you could do a coin toss.
00:17:51
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:17:54
Chilly
You could choose whether you're going to, you know, ah you know, defend or, or attack. You can choose what side of the court you want to play on. Maybe you want to play.
00:18:04
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, cars.
00:18:05
Chilly
Okay.
00:18:05
Sully Shaheed
Cars matter. Cars matter.
00:18:06
Chilly
No, I'm not even going to say cars, man. have to say, again, you're good this everybody can have the same car. You know who you're going up against. So so do you want to play towards the crowd or away from the crowd?
00:18:13
Sully Shaheed
True. True. True.
00:18:21
Sully Shaheed
Big thing because everybody's going to be banging on the glass.
00:18:21
Chilly
and
00:18:24
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true.
00:18:25
Chilly
Right, right. And then, obviously, you know, you'll send up, you know, each team will ah each team will designate their goalie, and then it'll be cool to see, you know,
00:18:36
Chilly
what order do you put your team in? You know, you'll have a set order. It's like, it's like, man, do we put, do we put James first? Do we put on third?
00:18:45
Sully Shaheed
All right. Establish, you know, establish some points early, right?
00:18:45
Chilly
we Right.
00:18:48
Sully Shaheed
do Like, what do we do?
00:18:49
Chilly
Right.
00:18:49
Sully Shaheed
yeah. yeah
00:18:49
Chilly
Yeah. Yeah, man. So one shot, you get one shot.
00:18:54
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, one shot. Yeah, of course. Of course. One shot. Like imagine just like the five cars on the opposite end and like the other the five attackers are sitting in the cars and then the one goalie is just waiting.
00:19:06
Sully Shaheed
And then like who you're shooting out first.
00:19:06
Chilly
yes
00:19:07
Sully Shaheed
And then that person just puts their foot on the gas and goes and it' like it's time. And then you put 10 seconds on the clock. You got 10 seconds to create a shot for yourself. And that's it, man. That's it.
00:19:18
Chilly
Yeah, man. i Well, you just do it like soccer, right? you know All the soccer guys are like arms you know on the my halfway.
00:19:24
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, yeah
00:19:25
Chilly
So all everybody else can just be you know at half court. So your team's on this side, their team's on this side. You're all just you're all watching.
00:19:34
Sully Shaheed
yeah. I think after two overtimes, it should come down to something like that. like That would be a hilarious and fun and interactive part of Worley Ball.
00:19:44
Chilly
I mean, we do have an invite coming up We can always just change the rule there.
00:19:48
Sully Shaheed
You could test the rules at invite. Yeah, you definitely could. Definitely could pull that off.
00:19:53
Chilly
I'm in.
00:19:53
Sully Shaheed
Hey, I'm game. I'm game. Like, it is in Cleveland.
00:19:56
Chilly
I'm in.
00:19:57
Sully Shaheed
We do make the rules, so.
00:20:01
Chilly
It's our canvas. We get to make and break the rules here.
00:20:05
Sully Shaheed
That's right. That's right. We'd be the litmus test for the new OT rules. um'm I'm down. I'm down. Chili, what was your favorite or favorite moments from Worley Ball Nationals 2026? What stood out?
00:20:19
Sully Shaheed
what what's that out
00:20:19
Chilly
ah
00:20:22
Chilly
I feel like because of because of Cleveland, I feel like extensions get called way more often now. And it's not even on us.
00:20:31
Sully Shaheed
ah
00:20:33
Chilly
So I don't know.
00:20:33
Sully Shaheed
Oh, here we go. Oh, no. You're adding more fuel to freaking Brad and Jared's fucking fire. Oh, my God. Why did you have to bring up that word?
00:20:42
Chilly
But here's the thing. like i was watching some games and like poor Jordan. Jordan got called on some extensions and like this dude didn't even extend. I'm like, that's a choice.
00:20:52
Sully Shaheed
Hmm.
00:20:54
Chilly
But like we, we didn't get called on too many, but man, everybody else did.
00:20:54
Sully Shaheed
Hmm.
00:21:01
Chilly
i was like, yeah, you're all welcome. know? Hey.
00:21:07
Chilly
So I thought everybody getting called on extensions was, was pretty funny.
00:21:14
Sully Shaheed
Fair enough. Fair enough. Um, yeah, it's, it's funny because like, you know, I'm, I'm a, I'm a pretty experienced ref, but there's things in the game that I still don't know that I'm still learning as I go. And, uh, I think like the proper reaction to certain calls are like pulling that person aside after the game and like telling them, right? Unless it's like a detrimental call that you know you effed up and then it affects the outcome of the game. Like I think yelling and screaming at the ref doesn't help because that that puts like the eagle eye like right on them, right?
00:21:50
Sully Shaheed
So like I had an instance with ah you guys when you were playing Texas when I called Brad for extension. But I didn't call whoever was mugging the shit out of ah Ross's ah hand.
00:22:01
Sully Shaheed
And I was like, Ross, I didn't know. Like, I honestly did not know that. Yeah. So he pulled me aside after the game. He said, literally, wrist up is a no-go. And I'm like, I don't experience that at home.
00:22:13
Sully Shaheed
So it's like, I couldn't call it. But he calmly put me aside and then explained it.
00:22:15
Chilly
right
00:22:19
Sully Shaheed
And then I was like, yeah. Bet. Done. Didn't hear a word from him the rest of the time. You will call Brad for an extension. He's posted on Facebook. He won't let it go for five days. He's still going on about it. You lost the game by 12, Chili.
00:22:33
Sully Shaheed
It had no impact on the game. None.
00:22:37
Chilly
hey don't don't you don't don't yell at me i was there
00:22:37
Sully Shaheed
So, stop.
00:22:41
Sully Shaheed
I wasn't yelling at you. I'm sorry. I just get riled up when people, it's an extension. Even if it's not an and what the ref says, it's it goes.
00:22:47
Chilly
if you
00:22:50
Sully Shaheed
I'm sorry.
00:22:51
Chilly
yeah Hey, you want know a fun you want to know a fun fact about that game?
00:22:51
Sully Shaheed
It is what it is.
00:22:56
Sully Shaheed
Sure.

Team Challenges & Memorable Games

00:22:58
Chilly
So that was our first seeding was our first seating game
00:23:01
Sully Shaheed
Yes.
00:23:02
Chilly
And ah we only scored two points in the second half. And I believe DeWitt was the scorer of the two points. We were so bad. we we all this We could not score. We were so bad.
00:23:19
Sully Shaheed
It happens, man. It happens.
00:23:21
Chilly
And happens. And then, we well, we lost to them, and I think we won our next, like, four games. So we, like, we ended up 4-1 that day. Yeah, 4-1. And they...
00:23:32
Sully Shaheed
Of course, the game you lost is the game I riffed. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. cool cool
00:23:36
Chilly
We lost by 12. The extension wasn't doing anything.
00:23:38
Sully Shaheed
I know. know. I know.
00:23:39
Chilly
we were we were so We were so bad.
00:23:40
Sully Shaheed
I'm just bullshitting.
00:23:47
Sully Shaheed
have have a couple I have a couple favorite moments because they still crack me the fuck up to this day. So um we were playing. So, you know, C was a pretty top heavy division. So like there was what, 13 of us.
00:23:58
Sully Shaheed
And ah so some of the teams you only got to play one time, you know, and Texas was one of them.
00:23:58
Chilly
Yeah.
00:24:02
Sully Shaheed
We really wanted to play Texas twice as a litmus test, you know, just to make like these are one of the teams that. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Like we had to look out for him. So we're playing in the Texas game and both moments actually happened from that game.
00:24:15
Sully Shaheed
So it was one time, i think it was like relatively back-to-back possessions. The one time that our offense broke down and I was sitting at half court And I'm screaming at the top of my lungs for the ball.
00:24:29
Sully Shaheed
i was like, hey, hey, hey, hey. And I just fucking it just yelled at the top of my lungs. They finally got me the ball. I hit the three. And then you can hear Josh Hirschman behind me. That's my dog. That's my dog.
00:24:44
Sully Shaheed
I cried laughing going back to defense. I'm like, that is my dude right there. And then, oh, of course, when Josh was trying to make ah a case to get on the list, every time he got a block, he would just yell my name. That shit was hilarious.
00:24:59
Sully Shaheed
But it was another instance where I got stuck at cherry picker and I was trying to work my way back, but I couldn't do it. So then Billy, your freaking father yells, get the fuck back on defense. And I was like, no, how about you take this fucking two on one? So I picked the guy out and then me and Billy ran a two on one and I scored.
00:25:21
Sully Shaheed
Then I was like, you get back to fucking defense. And he was just, he put his head down and Moseyed on back to defense. That shit was hilarious.
00:25:32
Sully Shaheed
So those are those are some fun moments, man. Those are some fun moments. um What was your most disliked moment of the tournament?
00:25:42
Chilly
getting knocked out.
00:25:44
Sully Shaheed
Oh.
00:25:44
Chilly
yeah No, I mean, no, no.
00:25:46
Sully Shaheed
Well.
00:25:48
Chilly
no ah Dislike. Oh, there was ah when we played James and them the second time out of all people, I wasn't allowed to play.
00:26:03
Chilly
That was that was shitty. It was like,
00:26:06
Sully Shaheed
Is that why you were speaking to James the way you were? next You said next time you play, could you could you let me and Anthony play? That would be cool.
00:26:13
Chilly
Yeah, man, but like I'm so used to it happening to Anthony. I'm like, oh, man, that sucks for that guy. I get to play. And no like I was like, what the fuck is this? Why me? i mean, I know I was shooting really good, but, like, why me?
00:26:28
Sully Shaheed
You just said it! Because you're shooting really good.
00:26:32
Chilly
Like, and we I think they took that second game personally because, like, we beat them. We beat them in our first seeding game against them.
00:26:41
Sully Shaheed
Facts.
00:26:42
Chilly
Um, i think we beat them by like, I don't know, eight. I don't think it was 10 points. So maybe six or eight points. So, um, but like, it wasn't our fault. They'd let Adam get two on one to death. You know, it was, that was on them. Um,
00:26:59
Sully Shaheed
x
00:27:01
Chilly
But either way, so that was that was pretty funny. ah or this like I think one of my light moments was is I raced ah i raisedd Billy from Four Welds and I won.
00:27:15
Sully Shaheed
yeah Good man.
00:27:15
Chilly
yeah Yes.
00:27:17
Sully Shaheed
Good
00:27:18
Chilly
So you know i had to I had to put old Mr. Tigger. I had to be like, hey. You're done. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:27:33
Chilly
yeah
00:27:34
Sully Shaheed
ah shit was good. Oh, that's another one too. real quick before I get into my most dislike moment, cause I was heated for the rest of the fucking tournament after the bad moment. But, um, We were playing Owen's team.
00:27:46
Sully Shaheed
And, ah you know, he wants to smoke. he's been He's been talking shit. you He wants to smoke. And his first possession, I think, he had me one-on-one. And he he dunked on me. I mean, he got me pretty damn good.
00:27:59
Sully Shaheed
And i just I gave him the nod and said, good job, young man. i You know, shout out. And at that point, he thought that his team stood a chance. Well... Moving on forward down the game, I get stuck at Cherry again.
00:28:13
Sully Shaheed
And I had i had a one-on-one or a two-on-one or something like that. And I was trying to pass the ball. And Owen was defending me from the other side. And ah somebody, oh, you're in the key. And I was like, oh.
00:28:26
Sully Shaheed
And I looked at Owen. I was like, hey, watch this. So I turn around between two scoops and forehand it in between the two defenders and make it. And then I look back at Owen and I was like, that's how it's done, kid.
00:28:37
Sully Shaheed
And he's like, He tipped the cap and drove back to freaking defense. And I'm like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about, son, kid. So I'm not an offensive guy, as many of you know. However, when I have those little fleeting moments of of greatness, I'm going to let people know about it. So I had to I had to get that one over on him just to give him little one upsmanship. But again, shout out to Owen, man. You know, he's a he's young guy. He wanted to smoke.
00:29:03
Sully Shaheed
And he he took it with with grace and honor. And, you know, I look forward to watching him play as ah years go along. So shout out to him, man. He's he's a cool kid. And he's definitely on my good side. so But who's on my fucking bad side?
00:29:15
Chilly
Yeah.
00:29:17
Sully Shaheed
I'm not even going to hunt for his name. I'm not going to look at the team he's on. I don't fucking care. However... Whatever team we were playing, we had a three on two and I take it from the wing and this loser, I have no idea who his fucking name is, nor am I going to fucking look it because I don't care. You're not known in the community enough for me to even shout your ass out.
00:29:40
Sully Shaheed
But he literally yells, he can't shoot. Don't guard him. And I'm like, I stopped mid play. Turn around. Who the fuck is this guy?
00:29:51
Sully Shaheed
Like, who are you? Like, literally, who are you? So we complete the two on or the three on two. I think Hirschman wound up scoring. And the whole game was a vendetta against him.
00:30:03
Sully Shaheed
Like, I sent his shit packet like four times. and I'm like, I can't shoot. You can't shoot. And then the whole tournament, I'm just watching. I'm like, this guy is ass. I mean, like, you can't call me out.
00:30:15
Sully Shaheed
for something that I don't even play on my own team and then not be a afterthought in the fucking community, bro. Like, don't don't come at me like that.
00:30:25
Sully Shaheed
So shove this C banner up your ass, buddy, because we are not friends. I do not want to be your fucking friend. And I think you fucking suck. Whoever you are. don't even know you are, but you know who I'm talking about.
00:30:38
Sully Shaheed
You know.
00:30:39
Chilly
I know.
00:30:39
Sully Shaheed
That's all that matters.
00:30:41
Chilly
I know who you're talking about.
00:30:43
Sully Shaheed
Now, again, you want to talk shit to me?
00:30:43
Chilly
Yeah. yeah
00:30:46
Sully Shaheed
Please, by all means, do it.
00:30:47
Chilly
and
00:30:49
Sully Shaheed
Fucking everybody in Seattle. Steve can talk all this shit. Noah can talk all this shit. Mark can talk all this shit. They come on the podcast. They put it. They say it with their fucking chest. OK, I know those guys. Those guys have banners. Those guys are winners. Those guys are from a reputable town.
00:31:05
Sully Shaheed
Anybody in Michigan can talk shit in Texas, whatever. Be known. Before you come at me. You know I'm saying? Like me of all people. Nah, don't, don't, don't do that to yourself, man. Don't do that to yourself.
00:31:18
Sully Shaheed
So sadly, I won't be sending your shit packing and fucking see again because I'm out. So good luck next year. I wish you the worst.
00:31:30
Sully Shaheed
Sorry.
00:31:30
Chilly
Damn. I know who you're talking about. I don't think...
00:31:34
Sully Shaheed
Don't say his fucking name.
00:31:35
Chilly
Oh,
00:31:35
Sully Shaheed
He don't need to, he don't, he don't deserve any recognition.
00:31:39
Chilly
my God.
00:31:40
Sully Shaheed
None. None.
00:31:41
Chilly
yeah
00:31:43
Sully Shaheed
Honestly.
00:31:45
Chilly
um
00:31:45
Sully Shaheed
No door to me. Who are you? Like, who who are you? like Get out of here. Okay. we have
00:31:56
Chilly
if
00:31:56
Sully Shaheed
We have a tournament to to go through. Shout out some winners. who Who let us down? Who disappointed us? Who rose to the occasion? who Who shocked us?

Acknowledging New Talent & Community Growth

00:32:06
Sully Shaheed
Who we owe an apology to?
00:32:09
Chilly
There's one team we all.
00:32:09
Sully Shaheed
On this podcast, there's one team. There's one team we owe an apology to.
00:32:11
Chilly
There's who We all. Yeah, that's on us.
00:32:16
Sully Shaheed
yeah that's and Yeah, right. we We come on our podcast. We say things with our chest. Some things are controversial. Some things make a lot of sense. Others, you know. Oh, real quick. can i Can I please take two seconds to give a shout out to someone that I i vaguely met, but met through Facebook apparently because, you know, it We're a community. We're a family, except whoever that other idiot was.
00:32:43
Sully Shaheed
um He can exclude himself. But um can I give a shout out to a young man named Jason Huff real quick? Do you know who Jason is?
00:32:53
Chilly
I don't.
00:32:54
Sully Shaheed
He's a relatively unknown. You know, he's a newer player. And I just want to give him a shout out because he he left me a very. Very nice comment on my Facebook post when I posted about, you know, all the injuries i overcome, blah, blah, blah. blah And I just want to say that I appreciate you. So can i can I read this verbatim because it touches my heart so much, Chili? May I do that?
00:33:16
Chilly
Man, we sound like the other fucking podcast with all this shit going on.
00:33:20
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen, man, i we get flowers on this podcast too.
00:33:22
Chilly
You want me to talk about how you're a good dad for 20 minutes?
00:33:26
Sully Shaheed
Our garden is not that big it's to give that many flowers out.
00:33:29
Chilly
ae
00:33:30
Sully Shaheed
However, we do game recognize game, Chili. So we we do give them out. I just went on a 10 minute rant about some other idiot. right. Can I reel it back?
00:33:39
Chilly
but again But that's fun.
00:33:42
Sully Shaheed
Can it be
00:33:46
Sully Shaheed
can it can I just reel it back for one moment? Will you allow me to do that?
00:33:48
Chilly
I mean, I mean, if we're being honest, it is your podcast, so I really don't have a say in the matter.
00:33:55
Sully Shaheed
Philly, it's our.
00:33:56
Chilly
You can mute me. You can actually mute me, and you can actually screw you go on.
00:33:58
Sully Shaheed
I can. i can. i can. But I'm not.
00:34:01
Chilly
Yes.
00:34:02
Sully Shaheed
I'm not.
00:34:02
Chilly
you You can go on go on ahead. and ah So I believe, ah as you said, Jason Huff, I believe he was from the Texas D team, the 30%ers, I believe, is is the team.
00:34:13
Sully Shaheed
You got the rosters in you, right?
00:34:15
Chilly
I do, yeah. So the thirty the thirty percenters so shout out.
00:34:18
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, just you know just a quick shout out to him. And thank you to all the D players that introduced themselves to me um that I didn't know, that I want to get to know. um Because like i said, you guys are the future of the game, man. And I look forward to your growth and development.
00:34:31
Sully Shaheed
um you know As an older gentleman now, um it's nice to see some up and comers. Like like I said, Maddie, shout out to her she took her. She took her time out to introduce herself to me, um which was awesome, I think. And she was on the winning D team, which we'll talk about here in a second.
00:34:47
Sully Shaheed
um She played excellent.
00:34:47
Chilly
I'm not gonna lie. I had a lot of people come up to me and say, yo what up, Chili? And I'm just like, fuck, I don't know your name.
00:34:53
Sully Shaheed
ah
00:34:55
Chilly
I'm like, right, all right. I'm gonna figure it out. I figured out some of my own, all right?
00:35:00
Sully Shaheed
Right, right.
00:35:01
Chilly
I did it. So, nah, shit ton of people.
00:35:03
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
00:35:05
Chilly
I shit ton people. i'm like, oh, no.
00:35:07
Sully Shaheed
Oh, no, no, no, it's it's hard to know everyone in the community.
00:35:08
Chilly
I'm a terrible person. Yes.
00:35:14
Sully Shaheed
That's just just part of it.
00:35:14
Chilly
I could do better.
00:35:15
Sully Shaheed
you know
00:35:15
Chilly
I could do better. I could do it.
00:35:17
Sully Shaheed
Again.
00:35:17
Chilly
I'm in the media.
00:35:19
Sully Shaheed
Get out there get out there and make a name for yourself.
00:35:20
Chilly
I should be in the media. Or if you want to come on
00:35:25
Sully Shaheed
And then we will know who the hell you are. Right? So there that is.
00:35:29
Chilly
or if you want or if you want to come on our
00:35:30
Sully Shaheed
Hey, you can do that.
00:35:33
Chilly
worth mouth
00:35:34
Sully Shaheed
You can do that. um ah Real quick, let me let me read this. And then speaking of podcast guests, we have to get Luke on because he's got some awards that he's been passing out.
00:35:44
Sully Shaheed
So we got to get Luke to break down how the process of his third team, second team, first team, C, and then other divisions are going.
00:35:45
Chilly
Yeah.
00:35:53
Sully Shaheed
So I really want to hear Luke's input. I really want to hear that.
00:35:58
Chilly
I'm game.
00:35:59
Sully Shaheed
But anyway, um Jason Huff, shout out to you, man. um I'm looking forward to your your development and your progressive or your progression in the game of Worley Ball for sure. But here's the cool comment that he left on my post.
00:36:13
Sully Shaheed
Man, it was great watching you play. Your talent definitely showed and your banner was much deserved. Right now, your level of play is a goal of mine to achieve in the upcoming years. We didn't get to really... we didn't really get to meet at nationals, but I got to watch a bunch of your games. And it's crazy seeing how huge the gap of what a new C player like me is and to what a new B player in yourself is.
00:36:36
Sully Shaheed
That meant the fucking world to me. So thank you, Jason Huff. I appreciate the kind words and I look forward to your development as well, man. So get out there, do do your thing, man. And I want to see, I want to see you move up soon, man. It's just get good kid.
00:36:52
Sully Shaheed
And we'll see you soon. So. Shout out to that guy.
00:36:55
Chilly
Is this the part of the segment where I talk about you're a good dad?
00:37:01
Sully Shaheed
No, no, you don't, you don't have to do that. You don't have to do that. My kids don't play whirly ball. So, you know, I mean, I'm a, I'm a great dad.
00:37:08
Chilly
you should get it.
00:37:10
Sully Shaheed
Don't get me wrong, but they they don't play yet. Yet.
00:37:14
Chilly
I think it's time.
00:37:16
Sully Shaheed
Oh, he turns 10 this year, so we can get her out there.
00:37:19
Chilly
i think it's, I think it's time.
00:37:21
Sully Shaheed
Think that time.
00:37:23
Chilly
we need We need some. We need more. We need D players.
00:37:27
Sully Shaheed
I know. I know. We got some up and coming D players that are definitely going to be moving to C next year if they choose to travel. um I can't wait to see the progression of Kate and PJ and, you know, big old big Larry out there. You know what I'm saying? So it'll be it'll be cool, man. Well, that's a good segue. Right. So let's talk about the v D division um again, minus that outstanding and fun for overtime game that occurred during, ah during playoffs. um
00:37:58
Sully Shaheed
The D division champs were crowned by, go ahead and list them all for me.
00:38:03
Chilly
Yeah, so this year our D Division champions ah reside in Seattle. ah We got Hollowback Whirl. Again, I'm not going through last names. We got Maddie, Alex, Maria, DJ, and Cody.
00:38:21
Chilly
Shout out to y'all. Y'all play great.
00:38:25
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, man, they did their thing. um Like I said, they and and if you want the more in-depth breakdown, ah please listen to the Seattle guys. They just put out a part one and part two about each division. They go, you know, team by team, basically player by player.
00:38:37
Sully Shaheed
um So if you want a more in-depth analysis, go check those guys out. They put on a great podcast. Also, real quick, I forgot to mention, if you haven't listened to The Roast, From Texas, take 38 minutes or 1.25 speed that I listen on and take your 30 minutes and listen to that.
00:38:53
Sully Shaheed
It was a fun. It was a fun listen. And they did a great job. They do a great job every year. So go listen to that.
00:38:58
Chilly
Yeah.
00:38:59
Sully Shaheed
But again, more in-depth analysis on each division, player by player, whatever. Go to go listen to Seattle, please. But yeah, man, they played great.
00:39:07
Chilly
Yeah.
00:39:08
Sully Shaheed
um I mean, since we're homers, what did you think about how our C team performed or D team? Sorry.
00:39:15
Chilly
I thought our D team played great. um You know, obviously they had a little bit of, you know, circumstance, you know, the, you know, that Monday of nationals, you know, losing a, you losing's Losing, losing a teammate, unfortunately, due to a shit attitude, if we're being honest.
00:39:31
Chilly
Um, obviously Pete, uh, correct.
00:39:33
Sully Shaheed
He took his ball and went home.
00:39:36
Chilly
Uh, obviously PJ showed out this year. Um, I think everybody, oh my God, there was a lot of man crushes for PJ. Wasn't there?
00:39:46
Sully Shaheed
Buff Beckett, right? Is that what he's been deemed?
00:39:48
Chilly
Uh, I think there was, he was called buff Beckett. He was called shoulders. Um, I think Dan Doherty or somebody was calling him Donkey Kong or DK.
00:40:00
Sully Shaheed
ah
00:40:00
Chilly
dear man The amount of love that that guy got, i man, good on him. good Good on him.
00:40:09
Sully Shaheed
That boy got glazed like a donut, man.
00:40:11
Chilly
Oh, yeah, man. He's a compliment after compliment after compliment. So, Kate.
00:40:17
Sully Shaheed
who who who told him Who told him to go back and play shirtless volleyball?
00:40:22
Chilly
that was hand That was the roast.
00:40:22
Sully Shaheed
Was that the roast?
00:40:24
Chilly
Yeah, Hanson said, i don't know why you're this good looking and that in shape to be playing you know our sport. He said leave, basically. um i don't know if Hanson knows, but ah we met PJ through volleyball.
00:40:34
Sully Shaheed
Hey, Hanson. Go ahead.
00:40:40
Chilly
We play volleyball with PJ. Yeah.
00:40:42
Sully Shaheed
Right, so ah Hanson, he does play shirtless volleyball already.
00:40:47
Chilly
although Although, I will say he does not play shirtless. He's playing in a cutoff. He does play in a cutoff.
00:40:53
Sully Shaheed
My bad.
00:40:54
Chilly
ah so But, I mean, yeah, we met him through volleyball. So, actually, what you said makes a ton of sense.
00:41:02
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, because that's the literal basis of where we grab PJ from was volleyball. so He already does play volleyball, man.
00:41:08
Chilly
Facts. Yeah. ah And then obviously Kate, you know, she played really well. Unfortunately, the day of the tournament, I know she got real sick. So she was basically doing the Jordan flu game. You know, she was powering through.
00:41:25
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:41:25
Chilly
ah you know, we had the ah double dip. You know, Ty was dying out there playing in two tournaments.
00:41:32
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, he was sick as well.
00:41:33
Chilly
Yeah. yeah so uh but ty played great uh shout out to larry ah for being the ultimate team player and just doing what we needed him to do larry played fantastic uh shout out to mr eli ah yeah what a what a player right that that kid came in lights out um
00:41:53
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to good.
00:41:56
Chilly
oh Yeah, man, he played as a team, did everything we asked him to do, ah you know helped get our guys in the right positions. And, man, Eli was just fantastic.
00:42:07
Chilly
So shout out to him and his his future as well. i assume he'll be back on a Seattle team sooner rather than later. So shout out to him, man.
00:42:18
Chilly
they And, again, thank you to him for playing with the team. you know It's not the easiest thing to do.
00:42:22
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:42:23
Chilly
So huge thank you to Eli.
00:42:23
Sully Shaheed
Right.
00:42:26
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Who's the, ah and again, I'm bad with names, unfortunately. you know, if I don't know you, I don't know you. But you know who you are. The dorky freaking kid from Texas.
00:42:39
Sully Shaheed
Like, you know who you are, bro. You know who you are.
00:42:42
Chilly
Yeah, man.
00:42:43
Sully Shaheed
Your shot is wicked, bro. Like, stick with it. He's got a nasty little shot. And he's going to be carrying a team sooner than later. So he's going be a good player.
00:42:53
Chilly
yeah Yeah, man. No, that kid was fantastic. Shout out to Levi for carrying his team. um
00:43:01
Sully Shaheed
Yep.
00:43:02
Chilly
Yeah, man. this ah he was like He was like a floor general out there, that guy. Yeah.
00:43:07
Sully Shaheed
Facts.
00:43:08
Chilly
Yeah, and then again, man we'll just we'll put over the youth. ah You know, Cadence. I think Cadence was better than some of the C players. ah
00:43:17
Sully Shaheed
Bringing the bedazzled game to the game. like i First of all, who is this little girl? And what is she? She's scoring buckets. oh oh Cool.
00:43:28
Chilly
A monster.
00:43:28
Sully Shaheed
Cool, cool.
00:43:28
Chilly
She was a monster.
00:43:29
Sully Shaheed
She can play. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. cool cool cool
00:43:32
Chilly
i think she's already she's already trying to I think she's already trying to play B next year.
00:43:32
Sully Shaheed
So.
00:43:37
Chilly
i think she's trying to skip C.
00:43:42
Sully Shaheed
Relax.
00:43:44
Chilly
are yeah are you Are you saying that because you don't want to play against her
00:43:45
Sully Shaheed
and
00:43:49
Chilly
Yeah.
00:43:49
Sully Shaheed
No, no, no, no, no. If Cades wants to smoke, she can fucking get it too.
00:43:52
Chilly
except
00:43:54
Sully Shaheed
ill get I don't discriminate by age, race, or sex in this motherfucking house, all right? If you want to smoke and be, come and fucking get it. However, I would advise you to enjoy the ride. Like,
00:44:10
Sully Shaheed
gain like court time is invaluable man like just just trying to put a jet pack on your back and skyrocket to whatever division is just not the move man so yeah play c dominate c if that's how you feel about it and then we'll see you later i like the attitude i like the attitude i certainly do i mean all first team d right
00:44:19
Chilly
but I mean I
00:44:24
Chilly
um i mean but she's she's got the right attitude though
00:44:31
Chilly
Yeah.
00:44:34
Chilly
If they put out a D one, I would think so. Right.
00:44:38
Sully Shaheed
Right. Hey, listen, can we influence this real quick? can we Can we name five players we would take in D and make an all-star team? Can we influence this like right now? Can we do it?
00:44:48
Chilly
um I mean, we can, you you know, by the way, you know, we're 40, you know, I know you don't want to talk to me for two hours, but we're 45 minutes in.
00:44:50
Sully Shaheed
Let's let's do it.
00:44:55
Chilly
Yeah.
00:44:57
Sully Shaheed
Okay, we only got C, B, and A, and unlimited to get through. Unlimited was a joke. So we don't, well, not a really a joke, but one of the games was a joke.
00:45:02
Chilly
All
00:45:04
Sully Shaheed
So that'll last five minutes. C, we dominated, and I'm not going to glaze myself the entire fucking time. So that'll be quick. And then B was small. So, I mean, we we got time, dog. We got time.
00:45:17
Chilly
So, so you want to put together our top, the basically T, you know, team number one in D is what you want to put together.
00:45:26
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, one a first team all D. Like, i would like i'm being I'm being a little biased, maybe, because I think I honestly would start with P.J. Not start, but I would add P.J. to that team.
00:45:39
Chilly
i think i think pj I think PJ makes the cut.
00:45:43
Sully Shaheed
I think P.J. makes the cut. I think he's a first team all D player.
00:45:45
Chilly
I mean, hit I don't know anybody that in their literal first seeding game of their ever Worley Ball career came out and just stroked a three.
00:45:57
Sully Shaheed
Ray sure as fuck did, didn't he? He's like, let me say this right now.
00:46:00
Chilly
I don't think there's anyone.
00:46:03
Sully Shaheed
Bang.
00:46:04
Chilly
Bang. I'm like, oh.
00:46:06
Sully Shaheed
Excuse me. Excuse me.
00:46:08
Chilly
and And they were worried about Ty.
00:46:08
Sully Shaheed
Ray.
00:46:13
Chilly
Yeah, so I would id probably say, so PJ, i would, ah Maddie, for sure.
00:46:20
Sully Shaheed
Okay, I'm with that. Matty's got some skills, man.
00:46:22
Chilly
right.
00:46:24
Chilly
I would say Cadence.
00:46:27
Sully Shaheed
um I'm with that. Let's ah let's go with cadence. I'm not going to disagree. The kid from Texas, man.
00:46:31
Chilly
Oh, man.
00:46:32
Sully Shaheed
The kid from Texas. You got to throw him on there, man.
00:46:33
Chilly
God. Yeah, man, that kid's shit.
00:46:35
Sully Shaheed
I think he makes it, bro. That kid could stroke, man. He was a one-man team, basically.
00:46:41
Chilly
Yeah, i would say him. And then, man you start, it's getting a little tough. You know, you got, you got Levi. I know from Michigan, ah Michigan. I, you know, I believe they're really good shooter was John.
00:46:58
Chilly
ah He was really, he was really good, man. That fifth spot at this spot's kind of tough.
00:47:04
Sully Shaheed
Up for debate.
00:47:07
Chilly
So, I mean, those are the, I think those are the four I'm putting on for sure. i think five we can leave open.
00:47:11
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, yeah. I think we set a nice foundation for for Luke and the boys. How about that?
00:47:17
Chilly
Yeah. Yeah. If, ah if the.
00:47:19
Sully Shaheed
Fifth spot for debate. ba ba to Debate the comments of the ah of the Facebook post. How about that?
00:47:25
Chilly
Hey, doesn't the media influence that shit anyway in real life? Don't we get a.
00:47:29
Sully Shaheed
Right.
00:47:30
Chilly
yeah
00:47:30
Sully Shaheed
Right. We certainly do. We're giving the wink, wink, nudge, nudge to to those four at least.
00:47:37
Chilly
For sure.
00:47:38
Sully Shaheed
And then we'll, we'll figure out the rest down the line. I mean, your team watched the tape. Maybe we'll, maybe we'll check out some D games and be like, damn, we did miss this. You know, we could.
00:47:48
Chilly
oh but listen, there's probably something or somebody we miss for sure.
00:47:51
Sully Shaheed
For sure.
00:47:51
Chilly
We're not perfect for sure.
00:47:52
Sully Shaheed
For sure. Are we good on the D division? You want to move to
00:47:57
Chilly
uh again man last thing i can say man shout out to all the d teams uh the d division is the most important division it's often the most entertaining division and the funnest tournament to watch so shout out to d
00:48:12
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, when I wasn't playing, I was definitely checking out the D games. They were a lot of fun to watch. That's 100% facts. So, yeah, keep playing. hopefully just Hopefully you see a bunch of you at invites here in Cleveland and then make your way to Minnesota next year. Even if you make the Texas one, too, that'd be awesome. so and And if I don't know you, introduce yourself.
00:48:31
Sully Shaheed
Introduce yourself.
00:48:31
Chilly
Yeah. Yeah. Come find us.
00:48:33
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, confined as fuck. I'm not saying we're like, you know, top of the fucking food chain in fucking Whirly Ball because we're not. We're just members of the media by proxy thanks to you know other podcasts that influence us.
00:48:44
Chilly
Listen, listen, listen, i we're kind of a big deal. You, you so you, ah you speak for yourself. Fuck off.
00:48:55
Chilly
Kind of a big deal.
00:48:57
Sully Shaheed
That's right, baby. That's right. right, C Division.

Cleveland's Triumph & National Competitiveness

00:49:00
Sully Shaheed
um Obviously, like, you know, where it was claimed by Cleveland, the only team to stop Seattle's reign of dominance in sweeping the divisions.
00:49:08
Sully Shaheed
um
00:49:09
Chilly
Yeah, you guys are you guys are welcome. You guys are welcome that we stopped the Seattle I mean, honestly, what is with Seattle not being able to win C?
00:49:14
Sully Shaheed
yeah Yeah, yeah. Every other center, you're fucking welcome. All right? So...
00:49:24
Chilly
They would have swept two years in a row, but they couldn't win C.
00:49:27
Sully Shaheed
It's always, yeah, it's been that division. Like, it just can't do C.
00:49:30
Chilly
Yeah, fuck fucking C players.
00:49:32
Sully Shaheed
Right, fuck it. And they had the most, they had four teams to give it a shot, too.
00:49:34
Chilly
Every year.
00:49:37
Chilly
you think they do You think they go back they're like, oh, we won A, we won B, oh, fucking C. Oh, we won D, you know.
00:49:43
Sully Shaheed
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
00:49:44
Chilly
right oops
00:49:46
Sully Shaheed
Hey, fuck those guys. No, it's a cavalcode of talent. Like i said, a lot of young talent there, too. Mixed in with some old, obviously. But, um yeah, it's just like we said on our podcast, man. It was like, did you did you spread yourself thin? I know you wanted everyone play, which they did. you know They had a big turnout, of course.
00:50:04
Sully Shaheed
But you know was it to the point where it became their detriment, right? Because there were a lot of solid players scattered amongst each team, but like they didn't put together like, all right, guys, I know we have a process for this, but...
00:50:18
Sully Shaheed
Three of y'all gonna get your ass beat. But this team, this is the team.
00:50:23
Chilly
No, no, I don't think so.
00:50:23
Sully Shaheed
So.
00:50:24
Chilly
No, because they don't build teams that way. i think
00:50:27
Sully Shaheed
I know, I know, I know.
00:50:28
Chilly
i think i think every Seattle team had a had somebody on the team that was not helping their case. ah
00:50:38
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:50:40
Chilly
Players that wanted to do what they wanted to do or were very limited. Again, nothing against them. Kudos for them for playing, but... um I mean, and they only get more talent with this D team who won.
00:50:52
Chilly
Right. So
00:50:53
Sully Shaheed
yeah It just gets thicker, right? like the fuck
00:50:56
Chilly
also, also don't forget, they have a couple of people who didn't play. I mean, the one kid broke his back, remember? So, so they, they have even more talent.
00:51:03
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:07
Chilly
So, I mean, I wish I had that problem. I wish we had that problem at our center to have 8 million people.
00:51:12
Sully Shaheed
Seriously, yeah.
00:51:12
Chilly
So yeah, So kudos to them because eventually they're going to put out a team that's going to be unbeatable and see. So it's going to happen.
00:51:20
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:51:22
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, that's why I'm glad I got out now because I don't got to deal with it. So not for not for a year or two. That's that's nice. But um but yeah, man, you know, shout out to obviously my team. ah Josh Zanko, your father, of course, Billy and Sean. We we did the thing. um You know, I guess according to Hanson, hell did officially freeze over and I got myself a banner, which was cool.
00:51:43
Sully Shaheed
um But yeah, man, it was a fun tournament. Like I said, Michigan put together a squad. Minnesota came out of absolutely nowhere, in my opinion. They came out of nowhere, got the two seed, and was knocking teams out left and right.
00:51:54
Sully Shaheed
And then i think we can can we issue the apology now you are to the to the Mean Worlds? Can we do that?
00:52:00
Chilly
yeah so um when we were going through the breakthrough and we did apologize did apologize uh at the banquet or when they were all sitting there uh meme world's we're uh we're sorry that we called you uh developmental team uh you knocked out two cleveland c teams so uh again we're we apologize uh
00:52:15
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:52:25
Sully Shaheed
We are deeply sorry for our comments that were made in the previous podcast. We were unfamiliar with your game. And now we know mistakes were made.
00:52:32
Chilly
Mistakes were made. um Yeah, mistakes were made.
00:52:35
Sully Shaheed
So shout out to the mean worlds.
00:52:37
Chilly
Shout out to the main worlds.
00:52:37
Sully Shaheed
Yep. Yeah, man, they, they, they went into the loser side and just started, smacking some people up you know and it's funny because like the team that gave us the most problems is a team they kicked out too so it was just like what the fuck y'all were doing y'all couldn't do this against y'all did this against us we couldn't do that against them and you know i could tell there was a shift in either mentality or coaching or whatever the hell it was but i get it like you know it was our first game of the day
00:53:09
Sully Shaheed
And I had to run to the chiropractor after like, I was worried about the tournament later, but like our first game against them and seating that day of the tournament, they tied us. And then I'm just like, why are we getting walled at four fucking wells in our side of the court? Like, where is this coming from?
00:53:23
Sully Shaheed
Like the first seating game we got in that ass. And then the second game, who fuck is this team? Like Teresa, Teresa was just making it rain out there.
00:53:30
Chilly
I mean... So...
00:53:33
Sully Shaheed
Like what, what the fuck is this? What is this chick? what does this mean?
00:53:36
Chilly
so I mean, ah funny you should mention that because we watched some of the tournament games on Monday. You know, old Billy O wanted to put them on.
00:53:44
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, sure.
00:53:45
Chilly
And so we watched that game because he was like, want to know what the hell happened. um If you actually go back and watch that game, if they could have just made two-on-ones, they had so many two-on-ones that they just didn't finish.
00:53:55
Sully Shaheed
I
00:53:59
Chilly
Y'all should have lost.
00:54:01
Sully Shaheed
agree!
00:54:01
Chilly
Yeah.
00:54:04
Sully Shaheed
yeah
00:54:06
Chilly
Like, I'm like, ooh. Like, when I watched it back, I told Billy, I'm like, I'm so as your coach who wasn't there, I'm happy y'all tied them. Y'all got outplayed. Shit.
00:54:16
Sully Shaheed
Oh, boy, do we oh do boy do we get outplayed. Holy he shit. But, yeah, man, you know, big ups to them. They made a hot run in the tournament, and i think I think if they stay together, if they want to, um they're going to make a lot of noise in the C Division next year. So I think i I'm very excited to watch them play again.
00:54:35
Sully Shaheed
And, you know, I think every team, you know, for the most part had moments of greatness right i think that you know and the perennial fifth on basically everyone's team dalton every year they never got down they never got sour they never got angry at one another they just played and developed together um i know it's a tough situation for him because it's like you know you don't have your own players to go against you're just practicing or like doing stuff on your own and then like to join a team um you know, and try to do your best. It's just it's tough, and I understand that. But they did have some moments every now and then, and, you know, we expressed that. It's go out there and have fun for the most part, and I think they did. You know, he he had his moments where he's just getting very excited when he hit a couple shots and, you know, when their team was competitive in a couple games. That was awesome. um
00:55:23
Sully Shaheed
But I think that and to my point, I don't think there was really I don't think there was really a disappointment in that division.
00:55:34
Sully Shaheed
I guess if you want to put like the finish around it, Texas, I guess, because they finished in fourth. i expected I expected more from you.
00:55:42
Chilly
I mean, well, I i mean, hey, you want to play you but you you want to play that?
00:55:46
Sully Shaheed
I expected more from my men.
00:55:50
Chilly
You want to play that music one more time?
00:55:53
Sully Shaheed
m
00:55:57
Chilly
Here we are today. Thank you, everybody, for gathering the bit of Johnny Bucket's finishing in third place ah passed away on at the tournament.
00:56:13
Chilly
He is now a fourth place finisher. um Also, shout out, Snowy will no longer be coaching that team as he is disappointed.
00:56:25
Chilly
Snowy so snowy thought he knew how I coached. um Clearly not the case. But again, sure.
00:56:35
Sully Shaheed
Johnny! Johnny!
00:56:40
Chilly
He is no longer on the podium.
00:56:41
Sully Shaheed
Fuck it!
00:56:42
Chilly
He is a little bit off the podium now.
00:56:47
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, man. um it's It's funny because like Snowy came up to me after the game and was like, well, after we beat him and eliminated him. And I know, wait, did we eliminate him? No, and we were never Luz's bracket.
00:56:56
Chilly
no you... Yeah.
00:56:57
Sully Shaheed
So we sent them to Luz's bracket.
00:56:58
Chilly
Correct.
00:57:00
Sully Shaheed
But um he's like,
00:57:00
Chilly
Correct.
00:57:02
Sully Shaheed
you're he's like i'm sorry you're more than just billy o i apologize we should have called off the dogs at some point and uh and we said it before like we were talking about it i'm like oh no i get to let zanko shoot open screenshots they get to let josh you know take away billy o i was literally telling you we're not just billy o like he's billy o was a cog in the wheel Period. Like that was a team that won C. That was not the Billy O show. That was not the Josh Hurstman show. That was not the Mike Zanko show. That was not the Sully Ali Shahid show or the Sean Mooney show.
00:57:39
Sully Shaheed
It was a collective five working together to win a division. So it was it was awesome to see. And you know what? We didn't really come together until like literally the last two months of practice.
00:57:51
Sully Shaheed
Like maybe even the last month. Like, because we were having our trials and tribulations the entire time, ah you know, building up to that point.
00:57:58
Chilly
If you get and you guys would have just listened to your coach earlier in practice, you wouldn't have had that problem.
00:58:06
Sully Shaheed
Listen here, bitch. All right.
00:58:08
Chilly
and
00:58:08
Sully Shaheed
we
00:58:09
Chilly
think
00:58:11
Sully Shaheed
No, no, no. I mean, like I said, we we appreciate everything you did for our squad. And, ah you know, the film study was huge. um Working together and just like just talking shit out as opposed to playing, like get out there and play. Like court time is important, but any center that's, you know, listening or want to get better or whatever, like look at film.
00:58:30
Sully Shaheed
Honestly, if you have a coach and a team that wants to sit down and just watch yourself play, you realize how bad you're A, fucking up, or B, like what can you do in said situations to correct these things? So when they actually happen on the court, you're like, hu oh, I remember watching this. And then you go back and and execute it.
00:58:48
Sully Shaheed
So... Yeah, it was it was a lot of fun. it was it was great playing with those guys, and I would would love to do it again next year. Like I said, we've talked about it. We think we want to come back as a team.
00:58:59
Sully Shaheed
um Obviously, we have some center decisions to make ah when it comes to our lower guys, who's going to travel, who's going to do blab but bla blah, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, i loved I loved every moment playing with those guys.
00:59:10
Sully Shaheed
We yelled at each other a lot, like a lot, a lot, um but it was
00:59:14
Chilly
what our senate it's what our That's our center's calling card.
00:59:18
Sully Shaheed
Right. It's what Cleveland does. This is what we do is fucking yell at one another.
00:59:22
Chilly
At least at our center, you know nobody's talking shit behind your back.
00:59:27
Sully Shaheed
Facts. It's literally straight to your fucking face. ah
00:59:30
Chilly
It's for better or for worse, but...
00:59:31
Sully Shaheed
i still Yeah. I still remember ah it was the championship game when fucking Zanko was yelling at Billy O and he was too busy yelling and he got us a delay a game call.
00:59:46
Chilly
Oops.
00:59:46
Sully Shaheed
Like the ball's literally behind him and he's screaming at Billy. And I'm like, oh no, he's going to get called. And he got called. I was like, don't worry about it.
00:59:54
Chilly
It's
00:59:55
Sully Shaheed
Like just don't worry about it. It's cool.
00:59:57
Chilly
all right.
00:59:58
Sully Shaheed
It's cool.
00:59:58
Chilly
It's one point.
01:00:00
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, it was it was a point, you know, it was a point.
01:00:02
Chilly
Do do you want to do... Well, ah we got cover two things here before we leave c one Obviously, with the the invite now, you avoided the kiddie pool.
01:00:09
Sully Shaheed
What up?
01:00:15
Sully Shaheed
Yes, yes, I am the lifeguard of the kiddie pool now. Yes, 100%.
01:00:20
Chilly
I mean, if we're if we're being honest, it's probably better off that you're in lifeguard.
01:00:20
Sully Shaheed
I am the lifeguard.
01:00:25
Chilly
All right? No offense to... All right. So, ah is it Buckets and Keegan, well ah they will be in the kiddie pool.
01:00:33
Sully Shaheed
Yes.
01:00:36
Chilly
we
01:00:36
Sully Shaheed
Remaining in the kiddie pool. Yes, yes.
01:00:38
Chilly
Yes, they need ah they need floaties, and we need a pool so we can get ready for that.
01:00:43
Sully Shaheed
Yep, we got it. Mm-hmm.
01:00:44
Chilly
Yeah, yeah. you know, if you are coming to the invite... you can look forward to that.
01:00:52
Sully Shaheed
Be ready. Be ready.
01:00:55
Chilly
Do we want to, do we want to, do we want to guess a first team C, you know, the Sonesta select awards?
01:00:55
Sully Shaheed
It's going be good time.
01:01:02
Sully Shaheed
That shit was hilarious. As soon as that sonestas brother.
01:01:07
Chilly
That was good.
01:01:07
Sully Shaheed
I was like, good good job out of you, Luke. Good job. Luke and whoever is helping out with that in Minnesota, man. Good fucking job. Like, that was awesome. That was awesome. Do we want to guess the first team and see?
01:01:22
Chilly
Yeah.
01:01:22
Sully Shaheed
Do we want to guess it?
01:01:23
Chilly
Why not?
01:01:24
Sully Shaheed
I think so. I think there's going to be some some home flavor, some some favoritism, as it were. So I think Brady makes that team.
01:01:32
Chilly
I think Brady deserved to be there
01:01:35
Sully Shaheed
OK, I'm here for it. I'm here for it.
01:01:37
Chilly
i think there. think Brady deserved to be there, man. that He played great.
01:01:44
Sully Shaheed
Fair. I mean, he was he was one of the reasons. I mean, that Minnesota team was a team. You know, it wasn't just Brady and the boys. It was it was a solid team effort. They did fantastic. They just, you know, unfortunately lost to Michigan to get to the championship game. Would have been cool to go against um Minnesota. But at the same time, we did predict that it would be, you know, Michigan, Cleveland in the final. And that's what happened. And we we turned out you know victorious. But Brady played excellent.
01:02:07
Sully Shaheed
So. As far as first team nods, because of the, you know, the home, home cooking, home flavor, I think Brady makes that team for sure. um
01:02:15
Chilly
the it's The seasoning.
01:02:17
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, the seasoning, seasoning. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, let's let's pull the elephant out of the fucking bag real quick. You know what I'm saying? I'm making that fucking first team. And if I don't, then what are we what are we doing?
01:02:32
Sully Shaheed
Like.
01:02:32
Chilly
you would You would play at MMB next year if you don't.
01:02:36
Sully Shaheed
yeah yeah Facts. Facts. So, ah yeah, i mean, I already played them technically.
01:02:40
Chilly
No, I...
01:02:44
Chilly
I think... ah Oh, yeah, it's true. Yeah, I think and think you should be on the list. ah How many people...
01:02:53
Sully Shaheed
i think i think it probably should be minimum two from our team, if not three, to be honest.
01:02:54
Chilly
How many...
01:02:59
Chilly
Maybe not three, because you got second team.
01:03:02
Sully Shaheed
And we did win.
01:03:03
Chilly
ah
01:03:03
Sully Shaheed
I mean, you know, I'm saying we did win as a team. So like as far as standouts go, we won as a team.
01:03:09
Chilly
I think Billy... I think Billy O... should probably be first team.
01:03:17
Sully Shaheed
I'm here for it. I'm here for it.
01:03:19
Chilly
think Billy, I think Billy O should be first team.
01:03:24
Chilly
So now we're up to three.
01:03:27
Sully Shaheed
Tilly.
01:03:28
Chilly
Oh, Tilly for sure. Yeah. Tilly was going to be my next one.
01:03:32
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, tillie Tilly tillli should make And no get no offense to Keegan.
01:03:32
Chilly
I, I, I think if that team want to let him shoot the ball more and got him more up the court and played for him, they did I think they could have won.
01:03:47
Sully Shaheed
Obviously, he played fantastic. i think he's this i think I think you throw him on the solid second team.
01:03:54
Chilly
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
01:03:54
Sully Shaheed
Right?
01:03:55
Chilly
Yeah, Keegan would be second team for sure.
01:03:55
Sully Shaheed
Right. like yeah Yeah, for sure.

B Division Draft & Team Dynamics

01:03:59
Chilly
So...
01:03:59
Sully Shaheed
ah One more.
01:04:00
Chilly
yeah
01:04:01
Sully Shaheed
do you take another Cleveland guy or do you take like someone from Texas? Who was, who was, who was a standout on Texas?
01:04:09
Chilly
I mean, ah yeah, Austin was solid. ah But what about what about somebody like Owen?
01:04:19
Chilly
oh and I think that Seattle team lasted the longest.
01:04:26
Sully Shaheed
I think they, I remember them barely losing their first game.
01:04:26
Chilly
See, see.
01:04:30
Sully Shaheed
The one I watched.
01:04:30
Chilly
No, I think they made a run. So,
01:04:33
Sully Shaheed
Okay. Okay, I'm with it.
01:04:39
Sully Shaheed
I mean, what about someone from our Shocker team?
01:04:40
Chilly
yeah
01:04:41
Sully Shaheed
What about the Mean Worlds? but I mean, they were a team though. They played really well as a team.
01:04:46
Chilly
i think I think the Mean Worlds, I think they should have so probably somebody on the second team. I don't think they had anybody on the third team, but we'd have to look at
01:04:53
Sully Shaheed
No, they did not. But they i yeah, I agree. I think they definitely deserve somebody. Minimum, minimum on the second team. I mean, they played... Out of this world. I'm behind that.
01:05:03
Chilly
it. see what you did there. ah
01:05:05
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. That's our guest. That's it.
01:05:07
Chilly
i I think I would put Owen in that spot. And then I would probably have Austin on the second team. I think either one is interchangeable.
01:05:20
Sully Shaheed
um behind that yeah
01:05:22
Chilly
Because, i mean i i mean, it's tough, right?
01:05:23
Sully Shaheed
that's ah that's our that's our that's our guess that's it
01:05:26
Chilly
Because, like, you could argue, you know, Daniel, Daniel or Austin. But I think I'm taking Owen on the first team. Because I think you know Owen did play as a team.
01:05:42
Chilly
Owen was a force in the paint.
01:05:44
Sully Shaheed
huh
01:05:45
Chilly
And i think ah to put I think I'm taking Owen on first team.
01:05:46
Sully Shaheed
Yep. Big time.
01:05:50
Sully Shaheed
I like that. We'll see how accurate we are here in about two weeks, I think, because I think their next list is, I think it's sometime this week for second team, right?
01:05:58
Chilly
No, I think i think they're i think second team second team is next week.
01:05:59
Sully Shaheed
Or is it weekend?
01:06:02
Sully Shaheed
Okay. Okay. So yeah we'll find out in a little bit, but yeah, let's see if our guests hold up. And of course it will correspond with the official and only top 10 list that matters in Worley ball because we make it.
01:06:14
Sully Shaheed
And what we say is gospel and we piss people off by doing it. So, but he also makes some people happy. I'm sure. But you know, Chill's got the stat book. He's been keeping track, watching the film.
01:06:25
Sully Shaheed
We're going to have a nice little discussion before pod and then ah roll out that episode next time, man.
01:06:26
Chilly
Brother, I yeah.
01:06:31
Sully Shaheed
So that'll be fun. Are we ready to go over to the B division draft?
01:06:36
Chilly
Yeah, the B division we probably can keep short. I mean Seattle with ah with Mark and Steve ah being on the team, man, they covered a lot of B on their second podcast. Yeah.
01:06:48
Sully Shaheed
I agree. Like i said, more in-depth analysis. Head over to Steve Ngo and Mark Mills podcast, man. They did a great job of analysis, but we are just going to kind of glance over it. Like I said, personally, getting the experience that I got in B-Series,
01:07:06
Sully Shaheed
getting used to the cars, playing against upper-level competition, whatever it is. I think it was awesome for me personally. um And there is no disrespect, shade, or hate towards those Atlanta guys and Roy. I loved playing with those guys.
01:07:20
Sully Shaheed
The only detriment was... We never played together. You know, like it took us a full calendar year to get to where we were in C with that team. And then to come out and try and figure it out through seating, it stinks, you know, and especially where you're dealing with guys that were not in, they don't, they don't have a center.
01:07:41
Sully Shaheed
So, you know, they're not playing like the last time Carl played was at last year's nationals.
01:07:42
Chilly
stuff.
01:07:46
Sully Shaheed
So you just can't get better that way. You know, Carl would be so nasty if he could play the entire freaking year and just get better and work with people. I know he wants to come to invites. I know he wants to come to a few practices when we have the joint ones. It'd be awesome to see him playing with Trey was great.
01:08:04
Sully Shaheed
So I had a great experience with that Atlanta team, even though we were two and out, but we, you know, in our first game against the eventual champs, the gooey ducks, we, ah we, we made a ferocious comeback, tried to give them a little sweat at the end. That was awesome.
01:08:17
Sully Shaheed
But ah yeah, man, shout outs to the Gooey Duck for handling their business, going through the the loser side to get back to the championship game and going back to back to win.
01:08:28
Sully Shaheed
um I think that, you know, they played well as a team together as well. I think Jeff Jackson was just literally on fire, like couldn't fucking miss a damn shot. um And then, you know, Seattle's, the other Seattle team, their issue, not well, issue, but they were they were Dan Carney.
01:08:44
Sully Shaheed
It was Dan Carney and friends. Like, let's be honest. Let's be honest. Like, Brandon, or not Brandon, ah you know, the the rest of their team, because Brandon was on the winning team, he did a solid solid job at ah holding down the defense. He wanted to get some flowers on our list, by the way.
01:09:00
Sully Shaheed
So, just, you know, when but you don't but you don't you don't put B players on your list. But he he was he came straight to me about it, by the way, because I put B and C players on my list. So... But ah yeah, man, if if they slowed down Dan Carney, which they did, and then obviously on the opposite end, they couldn't stop Jeff Jackson. I mean, that championship game was a rout.
01:09:20
Sully Shaheed
I mean, it was an ass whipping, like flat out.
01:09:22
Chilly
Yeah. What was it? 38 to 14 the half or to at the half.
01:09:26
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I mean, it was GGs at half and it was just like, man, they got the momentum. You know, Kiefer did his thing. um you know, is he was a team player the entire time, setting screens or shooting little lob shots, whatever. He did his little thing in the key sometimes. But they just they just created space and they avoided the wedge. They picked the wedge out 90% of the time. They just had clean screens, man, just draining everything. So, but yeah, man, shout out to them. I hope that the natural attrition for promoting A players in Seattle. I mean, if that, if the case is they have a fifth A team, okay,
01:10:03
Sully Shaheed
Whatever. You know, like it is what it is.
01:10:05
Chilly
no they they No, they only had three, they would have four.
01:10:08
Sully Shaheed
Oh, four, four. I'm sorry. So it'd be a fourth a team. I apologize.
01:10:11
Chilly
Yeah.
01:10:12
Sully Shaheed
So it is what it is, man. I want to see those guys in A. You know, I think they deserve it. I really do. I don't want to see, I want to see Brandon Stewart freaking, you know, get held back because of whatever, or like Kiefer, same thing.
01:10:24
Sully Shaheed
um You know, they they earned it.
01:10:26
Chilly
Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, there is a thing, you know, earning it, of course, but, you know,
01:10:27
Sully Shaheed
They earned it.
01:10:33
Chilly
Make yourself undesired, you know, make yourself desirable.
01:10:37
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, make yourself undeniable.
01:10:38
Chilly
know?
01:10:39
Sully Shaheed
Say, I'm a fucking A player, bitch. And then handle your business.
01:10:42
Chilly
Yeah. Hey, man, like, if show up to their practices. Show up to their leagues, man. Show that you're improving. make them have Make them have to put you on an A-team.
01:10:50
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, but they...
01:10:55
Sully Shaheed
Absolutely. 100%. So... um so
01:10:57
Chilly
I mean, if you want if you want me to give one big recommendation to them, just kind of watching their B games and then watching their games through their live streams and stuff, work on y'all's court awareness.
01:11:10
Sully Shaheed
Fair.
01:11:11
Chilly
work Work on your court awareness, man.
01:11:12
Sully Shaheed
Fair.
01:11:13
Chilly
that's It's absolutely huge in A. um As somebody who has gone through and watched the majority of the A seeding games, like i said, I'm almost done watching all of them back.
01:11:26
Chilly
Um, a lot of B players subbed up in a this year, whether it was for one game or two, again, man, i know it's a lot just to go in there and sub, um, a lot of you, i know a lot of you are good players. A lot of you looked like the moment was bigger.
01:11:43
Chilly
um again, man, I watched poor Dan Carney go up there and like five out of his first six shots got swatted. ah Um, I mean, poor guy, ah you know So again, man, so just, again, man.
01:11:56
Sully Shaheed
Welcome to the big leagues, kid.
01:11:59
Chilly
Yeah. So, I mean, again, man, watching some of those other Seattle guys, again, man, it's this court awareness, man. It is this court awareness. um It's got to be, you know, on level 10, especially for A, man. You got to know what's going on, man. yeah A second to later, too early, and and you're and you're screwed, right? So, yeah.
01:12:21
Chilly
That's just my big tip, man. this Just court awareness. Just work on it. Listen to your upper players.
01:12:26
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, 100%. And, you know, I know they got some decisions to make, you know, because obviously they finished one and two, you know, who goes up, who mixes up, what changes they want to make, you know, whatever, if going to remain in that division, at least a chunk of them and see what kind of team they can put out for next year. But. You know, I think they all play well. You know, it's like Chicago play well.
01:12:47
Sully Shaheed
um The Minnesota boys, they had and they had another good showing out there. They're developing as a team. I think they're going to get nothing but better and they get the home field advantage next year. So I expect a good showing from them.
01:12:59
Sully Shaheed
um And like i said, man, you know, if the Atlanta guys, their core, they want to stick together. I just would love to see him at some invites and, you know, fly up for some practices, whatever the case is, just to get some court time and because it just makes you exponentially better.
01:13:13
Sully Shaheed
So it was fun. Like I said, it was a ride playing with them. And I'd do it again in a heartbeat if if they gave me the opportunity. So, but yeah, man.
01:13:21
Chilly
Yeah, and shoutout shout out to my Texas team that I became the coach of while I was there. um Snowy passed that responsibility on to me because they were stretched thin in the coaching department.
01:13:36
Chilly
Snowy and I were co-coaches. um So for that team, basically being a no-practice team, they they lost it to the Gooey Ducks in playoffs by a point.
01:13:47
Chilly
um and certainly could get that team a run for their money. So shout out to, you know, Dave, Josh, Josh, Greg, and Troy. So again, man, thank you for allowing me to coach y'all. So it was fun. It was fun.
01:14:04
Sully Shaheed
you know the first thing i think about when i when i see greg where's the rest of you like i mean that's un-fucking-recognizable
01:14:11
Chilly
Dude. Dude, he literally could have just went by a different name and played D.
01:14:20
Sully Shaheed
I was just like, I thought, wait, that's Greg? Like, oh, my God. mean.
01:14:26
Chilly
you know and You know how many people were like now many people were like, man, I don't even know i don't even know it was Greg. People were like, I didn't know i was people were like i don't even know I was talking to Greg.
01:14:33
Sully Shaheed
Bravo. Bravo to freaking Greg for going on that for going on that health journey, man, and getting himself right.
01:14:39
Chilly
Yeah, man.
01:14:40
Sully Shaheed
Like, he looks awesome. He played awesome. Like, shout out to you, bro.
01:14:43
Chilly
Yeah, man.
01:14:44
Sully Shaheed
Like, good shit.
01:14:46
Chilly
Shout out to Greg.
01:14:48
Sully Shaheed
Hell yeah.
01:14:48
Chilly
you want You want to do you wanna do first team B?
01:14:48
Sully Shaheed
ah
01:14:53
Sully Shaheed
B, so Jeff Jackson.
01:15:00
Chilly
Okay.
01:15:01
Sully Shaheed
Oh, debatable. Okay, okay, okay.
01:15:05
Chilly
It's a...
01:15:05
Sully Shaheed
ah Dan Carney.
01:15:07
Chilly
I put Carney on there. it's this It's interesting. I'm okay with Jeff. It's just interesting from, again, because they that team played so well as a team.
01:15:18
Sully Shaheed
It's team ball. Team ball wins championships.
01:15:20
Chilly
the It is team ball, but first team doesn't care about team ball.
01:15:25
Sully Shaheed
True. Yeah.
01:15:26
Chilly
Okay.
01:15:26
Sully Shaheed
Good point. Good point. Good point.
01:15:29
Chilly
Um, this might be controversial, but I think Carl should be first team.
01:15:30
Sully Shaheed
Great point.
01:15:36
Sully Shaheed
That's not controversial at all.
01:15:38
Chilly
think Carl should be first team.
01:15:39
Sully Shaheed
It's not controversial. It's not controversial at all. um
01:15:42
Chilly
All right. So we have, so we have Carl, we have Carl, we have Jeff, we have Dan.
01:15:44
Sully Shaheed
You're.
01:15:49
Sully Shaheed
Josh?
01:15:56
Chilly
That's tough. It's tough. Josh.
01:16:01
Sully Shaheed
Josh, little Dave?
01:16:05
Chilly
yeah but I feel like they're almost... It's it's tough. because like Are we only grabbing one person from the from from the Ducks?
01:16:15
Sully Shaheed
i I mean, like i said, it was a it was such a team. It was such a team. It's hard to say. I mean, they won, right? So i it would be justified if we take two, but...
01:16:25
Chilly
Do we ah do we i give Luke the media buff?
01:16:31
Sully Shaheed
media bump! Yeah! Luke's the second teamer.
01:16:36
Chilly
right, so let me see. that If we go we go Jeff, Dan, Carl.
01:16:38
Sully Shaheed
I think Luke's the second teamer.
01:16:45
Chilly
See, um'm I'm okay with putting maybe a bit underrated, but what about so, again, i you have two from Chicago. yeah You have Dead and then Michael Langenfeld.
01:16:59
Sully Shaheed
ah Yeah, oh that's That's a good debate.
01:17:02
Chilly
And then you have Luke, and then you could argue, i think, um I mean, the Gooey Ducks played so well, so I don't know if I'm kind of obligated to give them two. i mean, Brandon held it down.
01:17:14
Chilly
Beast's tough.
01:17:17
Chilly
i mean I mean, honestly, both Brandons played really well.
01:17:23
Sully Shaheed
<unk> good That's a really good debate. that's ah That's a really good debate.
01:17:29
Chilly
See, I have a feeling like the second team would almost be like the remaining Gooey Ducks.
01:17:34
Sully Shaheed
Of what? Yeah, yeah exactly.
01:17:39
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, that's tough, man.
01:17:40
Chilly
Yeah. I think i think i mean and yeah my pay I might put Luke on the first team.
01:17:41
Sully Shaheed
i said
01:17:46
Chilly
I might give him the media buff.
01:17:48
Sully Shaheed
Okay, you give him the media bump. I'm going to bump him down. I'm going to second team. Now watch. I'm going to talk my shit now. It's not even talking shit. like He played excellent. like His team played excellent. But he's going like, oh, you want to put me on second team?
01:18:00
Sully Shaheed
Bitch, and he's going to move me off the first team.
01:18:01
Chilly
Got to switch my eye.
01:18:02
Sully Shaheed
I'm going to go second team.
01:18:07
Sully Shaheed
I'm like, well, you know what? No, Luke, first team. Absolutely. ah
01:18:14
Chilly
got twitching my eye
01:18:16
Sully Shaheed
Absolutely. First team. Media bump.
01:18:23
Chilly
good But no that but again again, shout out to the to the to the Ducks, man.
01:18:23
Sully Shaheed
Oh, man.
01:18:28
Chilly
They played great. um Shout out to both of the Chicago B teams. I thought they both played really well. So huge shout out to them, Again, moving up a division, moving up a whole bunch of people.
01:18:43
Chilly
um
01:18:43
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:18:43
Chilly
not the easiest thing to do.
01:18:45
Sully Shaheed
No.
01:18:45
Chilly
Kudos to them. Kudos, again, B division, often the most overlooked division. ah was competitive. um

Unlimited Division Recap & Seattle's Dominance

01:18:54
Chilly
So again, man, shout out to them.
01:18:56
Chilly
I think we can move on up to... You want move on update you wanna move up on up to A, or do you want to knock out Unlimited real quick?
01:19:01
Sully Shaheed
You know what?
01:19:05
Sully Shaheed
Unlimited only because like I would like the show to actually be listened to all the way through. Cause if we end with unlimited, that means they'll just stop at a and just cut the show off.
01:19:16
Sully Shaheed
So for, for listen time specifically, but's let's talk about unlimited real quick and then end with a, and then closing thoughts and get the fuck up out here. So.
01:19:25
Chilly
Yep.
01:19:26
Sully Shaheed
Um, Texas keep working. I think there's definitely a shot to win some games and unlimited for sure. They played excellent. Bolte was a freaking menace out there. Brad played. ex I mean, like they, they all played great. Like Ross was great.
01:19:42
Sully Shaheed
Um, you know, they they, they, they definitely have some time to develop as an unlimited squad. I want to see it back. I want to see, you know, that, that third team in there. Um, and Texas can make some damn noise.
01:19:53
Sully Shaheed
So it was fun watching them play.
01:19:53
Chilly
Yeah, i wonder you know i wonder if I wonder if Snowy will make it back to the unlimited team.
01:20:00
Sully Shaheed
Hey, never know. Never know.
01:20:03
Chilly
they
01:20:03
Sully Shaheed
Would be cool.
01:20:03
Chilly
they they They won when he was on the team.
01:20:07
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, that's true. But maybe he was inconsistent. Like, you know, like tapioca. Oh,
01:20:13
Chilly
Oh.
01:20:15
Sully Shaheed
I'm sorry. My bad.
01:20:17
Chilly
Oh.
01:20:17
Sully Shaheed
My bad. But yeah, no, no. Like I said, i maybe he does. You know, I think they have a code of talent and they they can definitely put together a squad.
01:20:21
Chilly
I got it.
01:20:24
Chilly
Again, unlimited is better when Texas is involved.
01:20:30
Sully Shaheed
Facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There that is. Yes. It's better when Texas is in it.
01:20:35
Chilly
Yep, 100%. hundred percent
01:20:37
Sully Shaheed
In the first game, it was, well, Texas went down and then we saw Michigan go Seattle and it was a furious comeback in that first game where Barrett hit a clutch three and then, ah you know, Joe Tiffany did his thing, hit another three.
01:20:54
Sully Shaheed
However... They forgot that Timmy was rolling on the other side of the court wide the fuck open, and he makes the layup for the dubs. So, I mean, Michigan ends up winning that first game.
01:21:03
Chilly
Well, the well they they all had to push the offense to get the bucket.
01:21:05
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, 100%.
01:21:10
Chilly
It's it's kind of a catch-22, so...
01:21:13
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, but that was a heads-up play to get the ball down to Timmy. That was wide open for the layup. He banged it, and they won that game. So that was the end of the excitement.
01:21:26
Sully Shaheed
ah so That was the end!
01:21:27
Chilly
Yeah. Yeah. um You know, as somebody who refed it, yeah, it was basically the end of the excitement. um Seattle came back. They they beat Texas.
01:21:38
Chilly
um Again, solid game. just texas is this Texas will get better. They'll improve. And then they come back to the losers bracket. Yeah. And then, man, Michigan just lost both unlimited games on their home court, especially that last game. They absolutely got mopped.
01:21:58
Chilly
um I mean, to get beat down like that on your own floor in the biggest game for a lot of those guys, that one's going to hurt them for a little bit.
01:22:10
Chilly
um I mean, Seattle literally just took Timmy out of the game, and the other guys just couldn't put ball in buckets.
01:22:19
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, it was that there was no adjustment to Brad Peters literally starting eight for nine, you know, because Barrett was just getting double teamed. And it was a couple of plays back to back where he had a scoop on his cart.
01:22:32
Sully Shaheed
because they were leaving Peters wide open. He's like, he's going to shoot and he's going to make it. Like, look at the film again. He literally stops playing in the key when he's getting double teamed, puts his scoop down.
01:22:44
Sully Shaheed
And Brad Peters, bang bang, bang, bang, bang. I'm like, y'all have to stop this. And there was no adjustment. And then it was a runaway from there. So yeah, that's that was unlimited in a nutshell.
01:22:55
Chilly
Yeah. I mean, basically Seattle wedged out Timmy and Sammy Austin, Austin couldn't put the ball in the bucket. i will give kudos to Johnner.
01:23:06
Chilly
Johnner was doing everything in his power to try to will his team and put energy, um, but back into the team, man. He was, he was fucking trying.
01:23:17
Chilly
He was trying his damnedest.
01:23:18
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, man.
01:23:19
Chilly
So i get, man, let me give kudos to Johnner. um
01:23:23
Sully Shaheed
He was a man on a mission. That's for sure.
01:23:25
Chilly
But Austin and Sammy and them, they just they couldn't score. They couldn't put the ball in the bucket. I mean, they literally wedged out Timmy and shots didn't fall. They end up getting blown out on their home court again.
01:23:39
Chilly
ah that one That one's going to hurt. But I think this is, what, four or five years in a row of Seattle dominance.
01:23:47
Sully Shaheed
Yep.
01:23:48
Chilly
So I guess we'll see what the future holds for Unlimited. So we'll go from there.
01:23:53
Sully Shaheed
I said, I had this conversation, I think with Joe Tiffany and maybe a couple other people. Is this the greatest five ever assembled?
01:24:05
Chilly
for Unlimited.
01:24:06
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. No, just in general. Like, what other five could you take from other centers to run like Seattle Unlimited versus the world? What other five would you take to try and beat that team?
01:24:19
Sully Shaheed
It doesn't have to be from a center. I'm saying Seattle Unlimited, as it stands now, versus the world. What world team would you take to try and combat that? know it's never going to happen because Unlimited is not cool and you guys don't want to spice shit up.
01:24:34
Sully Shaheed
But if we could... Five to go against that team.
01:24:43
Sully Shaheed
Like you're starting with James Gill, right?
01:24:43
Chilly
ah yeah
01:24:47
Chilly
Yeah, yeah, of course you're going to start with James. we can
01:24:50
Sully Shaheed
Right. So like what other four are tagging along with James Gill to try and take that team down?
01:24:57
Chilly
You need four other people that can put the ball in the hole.
01:25:02
Sully Shaheed
So Timmy.
01:25:08
Chilly
Off air, I think I could answer.
01:25:10
Sully Shaheed
Okay, think about it. We'll talk about it. Because, mean, we're naming first team All Unlimited right now.
01:25:13
Chilly
yeah
01:25:16
Sully Shaheed
know what I'm saying? what do you put over it?
01:25:19
Chilly
Oh, first team All-Unlimited. That's probably...
01:25:22
Sully Shaheed
Seattle.
01:25:24
Chilly
yeah right?
01:25:25
Sully Shaheed
Now, why don't why don't, so, like, let's say, okay, just just for S's and G's. Would a team of Gil, Timmy, Bolte, Carter?
01:25:37
Sully Shaheed
Carter?
01:25:41
Chilly
Carter played well.
01:25:42
Sully Shaheed
I know Carter play fantastic. Like, ooh, who would be a good fifth on that team? Oh my God. Oh my God. Hmm.
01:25:54
Sully Shaheed
I'm gonna dwell on that while we talk about A. How about that? Because I know there's gonna be some players that should name and I'll be like, aha! yeah
01:26:04
Chilly
Yeah.
01:26:05
Sully Shaheed
You take like like yourself, Anthony, Jarrett, like you still got like defense and offense. Guys that can put the ball in bucket. Guys that can prevent the ball from bucket. I think that'd be a hot squad.
01:26:18
Chilly
Could be. Could be for sure. Be fun.
01:26:21
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. Bolte Carter. Oh, oh, are oh, oh, I'm so sorry. um If you don't put Carter, Jeremy Bennett.
01:26:32
Chilly
Oh, yeah. Oh, Jeremy for sure.
01:26:33
Sully Shaheed
one He's won unlimited several times.
01:26:37
Chilly
Yeah, I think you got put Jeremy on there.
01:26:37
Sully Shaheed
Bolte, Bolte, Bennett, Gill, Timmy, Carter, and or random Cleveland A player.
01:26:47
Chilly
Yeah, I think that'd be fun.
01:26:50
Sully Shaheed
I think that'd be a good time. i think that'd be good time.
01:26:53
Chilly
they think it'd be a real good time.
01:26:55
Sully Shaheed
Yep, just throwing it out there if you guys want to spice shit up. Minnesota. Unlimited versus the World Challenge. Just put it out there. Maybe throw in an extra game. I don't know. Just put it out there.
01:27:07
Sully Shaheed
Minnesota, ball's in your court.
01:27:12
Chilly
I mean, I don't mean to tempt you with something, but I do have a... ah ah um I'm trying to come up with a concept. ah I'll let you dwell.
01:27:22
Chilly
I'll talk to you about it off-air, but i'm trying to i'm trying to come up with ah with ah with a new concept for Worley Ball, like a new type of ah a tournament, per se.
01:27:24
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
01:27:33
Sully Shaheed
Oh, is this the three-on-three thing that I heard about?
01:27:36
Chilly
No, no, it's not the three-on-three thing.
01:27:37
Sully Shaheed
Okay. Okay.
01:27:39
Chilly
So this is this is something that's cooking up
01:27:39
Sully Shaheed
Okay. All right. Cool. Cool. Cool.
01:27:42
Chilly
that I'm trying to cook up.
01:27:44
Sully Shaheed
Okay. Well, let it dwell that that's that's what we like to call a teaser in the industry.
01:27:50
Chilly
Yeah.
01:27:50
Sully Shaheed
That's we like to call a

A Division Tournament & Player Selection Debate

01:27:51
Sully Shaheed
teaser. so So tune in next time for or for the top 10.
01:27:52
Chilly
ae epi
01:27:54
Sully Shaheed
Maybe maybe ah break down that and ah see some new concepts for the game Worley Ball. I mean, we already gave them the overtime rule.
01:28:02
Chilly
Dude, yeah, right, we should.
01:28:04
Sully Shaheed
So I'm just saying, there's a lot of stuff we can do at Invites here in Cleveland, Ohio. So um A was claimed by the GOAT and the GOAT herders. Gil got himself another one with ah another solid team around him.
01:28:18
Sully Shaheed
You guys, of course, showed out. You finished in second seeding. And, ah you know, unfortunately, it was there early out for you guys. you know But other than that, how was your experience in A? And what was other what did you think of other teams in A?
01:28:32
Chilly
I mean, A was competitive across the board. um if you go back and look at seating, a lot of the teams, like you're only arguing over one to two games for C. I think we were only a game behind James and them um for first.
01:28:48
Chilly
So yeah. In A, man, every game matters, um especially if you're trying to improve your seeding. And, yeah, man, A is great. all the to it's It's so much fun. um You know, you're you're never playing a bad team in A.
01:29:06
Sully Shaheed
No!
01:29:06
Chilly
ah you So, so um yeah, man, so it was fun.
01:29:07
Sully Shaheed
No!
01:29:12
Chilly
we got to play We got to play some of the Seattle teams twice, which is cool. considering I think like last year we really didn't. So it was cool to play. we got to play James twice. We got to play Joe twice.
01:29:26
Chilly
ah but So that was cool. ah playing And again, man, you're just constantly playing against legends of the game. So, you know, it was cool to play against some new faces out there, you know, Billy and stuff.
01:29:40
Chilly
But yeah, man, it was competitive. It was fantastic.
01:29:45
Sully Shaheed
Hell yeah. I like to hear it. It was a, it was a, it was cool watching you guys. Like I said, I was rooting for you. You know what saying? Obviously, you know, home center, you know, I got closest friends are on that team.
01:29:55
Sully Shaheed
So it was nice to see. Um, but then like, again, i have, I have a Texas, a little Texas bias, you know, even though a lot of friends I have in Seattle as well. I mean, the whole community are my friends and family with of course the exception of whoever the fuck that was. Um,
01:30:11
Sully Shaheed
But yeah, it was it was an awesome tournament. It was awesome to watch. And ah yeah, man, you know I look forward to whatever Seattle decides to do with some of the guys that want to move up, ah if they move up, if they're going to incorporate another team to split those guys up and you know maneuver things around.
01:30:31
Sully Shaheed
um And then it was a lot of surprising 0-2s. We don't see some of the players that got 0-2'd ever put out like that. So you could tell the competitiveness went up a notch.
01:30:44
Sully Shaheed
So Atlanta had a nice showing as well.
01:30:44
Chilly
Yeah.
01:30:46
Sully Shaheed
Like I said, those guys don't get to practice at all.
01:30:47
Chilly
Yeah, they played great.
01:30:50
Chilly
Yeah, man. Like I said, man, everybody played great. atlanta Atlanta started to find it that Friday. um They won their first playoff game against Chicago.
01:31:02
Chilly
um So, yeah, man, Atlanta was finding it. I think not playing any games on Saturday i think is what hurt them.
01:31:09
Sully Shaheed
Gotcha. Fair enough. And of course, Chicago, like I said, they incorporated Jeremy Bennett seamlessly. He's one of the most ultimate team players you can, you can have out there. He's a court general.
01:31:19
Sully Shaheed
um You didn't play defense to play defense, you know, play offensive play offense. It doesn't matter. He's in every play. He's a step ahead of the game. And i hope he stays with that team because that's a solid team as well. And I hope they continue to grow.
01:31:32
Sully Shaheed
It'd be lovely to see him in Minnesota. Well, Minnesota. um But yeah, I mean, I was impressed by everybody that I watch a tournament is always a joy to watch and it was cool. So, you know, I was playing a little bit on the other courts, but you know, getting out early, I got to support my team and,
01:31:44
Chilly
with
01:31:49
Sully Shaheed
It was ah an unfortunate early exit for you guys, but at the same time, it just gives you room to grow and improve.
01:31:54
Chilly
I mean, the thing was, is like yeah, it was a little bit of an early exit, but it wasn't really an early exit because we technically we had a bye, and then we won our first game.
01:31:55
Sully Shaheed
Right,
01:32:03
Sully Shaheed
right. Right,
01:32:04
Chilly
so like So technically, it's the furthest we ever made it. And for this being
01:32:07
Sully Shaheed
right it was a deep run, yeah.
01:32:09
Chilly
take taking Yeah, and then technically, you know, for this only being our third year in A, the seed second, that's that's so that's a huge win for us. So where where where <unk>re we're getting to where we need to get to.
01:32:19
Sully Shaheed
That's a big step. hu
01:32:23
Sully Shaheed
Hell yeah. That's what I like to hear.
01:32:25
Chilly
Do you even want to first team A? Because that's going to be a pain in the ass.
01:32:31
Sully Shaheed
not.
01:32:34
Sully Shaheed
Oh, you know, knock out one spot, James Gill.
01:32:37
Chilly
Yeah, so if we're being real, right, generally speaking, the like the first like technically all team selections are done before playoffs, right? so So I do feel like the goat herders, I feel like they do get two.
01:32:48
Sully Shaheed
Right, right, right. That is true. That is very true.
01:32:55
Chilly
Now, whether you're going James and Peters or James and Eric, because whichever one doesn't make it definitely goes to the second team.
01:33:03
Sully Shaheed
Facts. Facts. That seems specifically because like Peters does offer a little more defense as well. um I'd probably go Gill and Peters.
01:33:15
Sully Shaheed
Not saying Eric didn't play no defense because he just certainly did. But, you know, Peters is little forced down there. So, ah yeah, Peters and Gil.
01:33:22
Chilly
and that I feelly ah feel like we get one.
01:33:27
Sully Shaheed
I think so. I mean, you're in the second seed.
01:33:31
Chilly
Yeah, so we we probably get one.
01:33:34
Sully Shaheed
And then whoever doesn't make it is probably second team, I would think.
01:33:37
Chilly
Right. I think i think i think we get one, and then, oh shit, almost probably two of us go to second team. One of us for sure go second team.
01:33:44
Sully Shaheed
And then Michigan, you would think one the the top Michigan team?
01:33:46
Chilly
we got well ah Well, yeah, so you you get out of there and then you probably Bolte from...
01:33:55
Sully Shaheed
mean, both these first team, boys.
01:33:57
Chilly
Well, date they were third. They seeded third.
01:34:00
Sully Shaheed
Both these first team, boys. Sorry.
01:34:03
Chilly
and then and a
01:34:03
Sully Shaheed
Both these nasty.
01:34:04
Chilly
And then you would be arguing ah that fifth spot between um the Michigan team with Doug, Austin, Dave, and them. And then ah you would be with Joe, Christy, Noah, Jay, and them.
01:34:23
Chilly
dude, it gets so hard. It gets so hard. Yeah.
01:34:27
Sully Shaheed
I mean, like, oh, God.
01:34:32
Sully Shaheed
ah I'm tempted to say Austin, but then Doug was lights out too, man.
01:34:33
Chilly
yeah ah
01:34:39
Chilly
dude
01:34:39
Sully Shaheed
Like, Doug can spray it from any part of the court. Austin's pretty much a key guy.
01:34:46
Chilly
a man i'll tell you this is watching the film man doug was doug was really good am i mean that team in general played just phenomenal
01:34:52
Sully Shaheed
You are team watch the tape. You are team watch the tape. So.
01:35:00
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I think ah I think without community feedback, ah Luke and the boys would have a bitch of a time trying to do a like a bitch of a time.
01:35:13
Sully Shaheed
But we tried to help try to get the media bump. There you go. So that was our that's our input.
01:35:17
Chilly
be about
01:35:19
Sully Shaheed
That's our input.
01:35:20
Chilly
you ready to wrap this up.
01:35:23
Sully Shaheed
Nah, man, let's talk about let's talk for something random about for the next 25 minutes. What's your favorite flavor of Mountain Dew?
01:35:30
Chilly
Oh, code red code red without question.
01:35:36
Sully Shaheed
Listen, man, if you disrespect Baja Blast one more time.
01:35:39
Chilly
Oh, I thought maybe you were a live wire kind of guy.
01:35:43
Sully Shaheed
I've never had a Livewire in my life. I'm not going to start now.
01:35:46
Chilly
Bro. how do you How do you never have a live wire and you play Call Duty as much as you did? How
01:35:53
Sully Shaheed
I played lot of Call
01:35:55
Chilly
the fuck does that work?
01:35:58
Sully Shaheed
of Duty. 300 pounds, Sully. Freaking playing Modern Warfare 2 and Modern Warfare 3 and Black Ops 2 to the wee hours of the morning.
01:36:09
Sully Shaheed
That was, ooh, I got a lot of time on that game. And that was a lot of Code Red. But the Baja Blast was associated with Taco Bell. So if I needed a

Community Engagement & Light-hearted Banter

01:36:19
Sully Shaheed
break in between sessions, go to Taco Bell,
01:36:23
Sully Shaheed
get my little TBR, my little tvbr i'm a little Taco Bell run, and then it would be the Baja Blast. So i've never I've never had a Livewire. I just haven't. Sorry.
01:36:32
Chilly
Yeah, ah Code Red for sure. That's the Supreme Mountain Dew.
01:36:34
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, i think I think it's Code Red.
01:36:36
Chilly
It's Code Red, come on.
01:36:36
Sully Shaheed
i think I think it's Code Red.
01:36:38
Chilly
We're not even going to entertain that it's not.
01:36:38
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:36:42
Sully Shaheed
mean,
01:36:46
Chilly
We're a Code Red podcast.
01:36:48
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I remember i remember Code Red came out and when I was in high school, and then they actually had it in the vending machines, and then it was like sold out every day. So literally, they moved, I think was like eight buttons you know to get different flavors or whatever.
01:36:57
Chilly
Every day.
01:37:02
Sully Shaheed
They moved four of them to Code Red.
01:37:06
Sully Shaheed
So it was half the vending machine. That was Code Red. That was it.
01:37:06
Chilly
Hell yeah.
01:37:12
Chilly
As it should be.
01:37:13
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, and we were just, yep, mm-hmm, take my dollar. this every Every table, you just see fucking mountains of Code Red. That shit is so bad for you. oh my God.
01:37:27
Sully Shaheed
However, it is delicious.
01:37:29
Chilly
It's good.
01:37:32
Sully Shaheed
Admittedly, delicious. So, yeah, you're right. you're We're a Code Red type of podcast. You're 100% right. 100%. hundred per cent
01:37:40
Chilly
I mean, we can give out our traditional, again, here, go go and support the other podcasts. The Seattle guys have put out two podcasts. Go listen to them.
01:37:50
Chilly
ah Snowy and Buckets stream generally, what, every Sunday? I actually think they're getting ready to stream now almost, so I don't know what's going on there.
01:38:00
Sully Shaheed
Wednesday night?
01:38:02
Chilly
I'm kind of looking into Discord, so it kind of looks like they they may be getting ready to do something. ah So again here.
01:38:07
Sully Shaheed
Nice.
01:38:10
Chilly
um So again here. But usually they're on every Sunday, I believe, at like 7.30 Eastern time. So figure out your own damn time zone.
01:38:20
Chilly
ah
01:38:21
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hm.
01:38:21
Chilly
Again, Cleveland invite is October, October 3rd, and 4th.
01:38:28
Sully Shaheed
Yes.
01:38:29
Chilly
Again, please come on and out to our center. You get to see the boys in the kiddie pool. ah
01:38:36
Sully Shaheed
point.
01:38:37
Chilly
maybe that maybe Maybe you don't want to come because you have to see the guys in the kiddie pool.
01:38:41
Sully Shaheed
yeah
01:38:42
Chilly
must um
01:38:44
Sully Shaheed
good point
01:38:44
Chilly
But again, here, man, ah come on out to our center. ah Again, our center, they've done a lot of work, you know painted some stuff and all that cool stuff. So,
01:38:55
Chilly
ah come on out again, man. Give us a like and a follow on our podcast.
01:39:01
Sully Shaheed
Hell yeah.
01:39:01
Chilly
ah And hopefully, hopefully the Chicago guys, I know obviously going through what they're going through. Hopefully the Chicago guys get back out here in the streets sooner rather than later. Again, be on the lookout for Luke and his awards or the Minnesota guys and their awards. Kudos to them. That's awesome.
01:39:18
Chilly
Any, any final word over there?
01:39:21
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. Like I said, it's, it's hard to mention every player on every team to go through everybody. I know people want their shout outs and their flowers. i understand that. However, It's tough to get through everybody. I just know that we're one big giant freaking family. I love and respect all of you. If I don't know you or if you don't know chill or anybody in the media or anybody that you want to like hit your wagon to, you know, like to become that player or look up to that player, like go up to him, talk to him, man. Like we're all cool as shit.
01:39:51
Sully Shaheed
um I mean, well, you know, we we you don't need to mention who is not. um Cause if you're going put me on blast, be known in the community first before you try calling me out.
01:40:03
Sully Shaheed
But absolutely not.
01:40:03
Chilly
Would you leave this man alone? Leave this man alone.
01:40:07
Sully Shaheed
Absolutely not. as hey As a top 10 defender in World League War, all right?
01:40:11
Chilly
Leave this man alone. Just leave him.
01:40:18
Sully Shaheed
As a member of the media team, the heaviest crown needs to be worn by us, okay?
01:40:24
Chilly
Damn, man. this You won't see. Just walk away.
01:40:28
Sully Shaheed
It's probably you just walk away.
01:40:29
Chilly
Just walk away, brother.
01:40:30
Sully Shaheed
No, I want all the smoke. I need more smoke.
01:40:32
Chilly
walk away. Just walk away. Just walk away. steve and them were beaten Steve and them are beating A-teams.
01:40:37
Sully Shaheed
Hey, you're right. You're right. My bad. Him and four even four guys can beat half the guys that are named in Seattle.
01:40:43
Chilly
I love...
01:40:46
Sully Shaheed
So they just want more smoke. I'm good with the smoke, man. We got to bring more smoke.
01:40:50
Chilly
I love... I do i'll give them kudos. love the confidence. And if they do if they do get moved up to A and put with somebody that can coach them, that's cool.
01:40:54
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:41:00
Chilly
Again, like you said... They've won B, so you know come on up to
01:41:05
Sully Shaheed
We want more smoke in the community, man. The community needs more smoke.
01:41:09
Chilly
I know when they mentioned it, even Noah hesitated for a second.
01:41:13
Sully Shaheed
He was yeah, I don't, don't, don't give people bulletin board material. Nah, man, I want my, just like I made in the burn book. I want all my shit plastered on everyone's bulletin board.
01:41:25
Chilly
going to let you all know. Do not do bullet-to-board material in Don't. don't do it don't do it
01:41:34
Sully Shaheed
Fair enough. Fair enough. Hey, um real quick before I finally cut this podcast off, because I know a minute of an hour and 40 plus minutes is is a long time. I hope you break this up in chunks. Like, just listen to us on the car ride.
01:41:48
Sully Shaheed
just Just chop us up a little bit.
01:41:49
Chilly
yeah if you if you get if you get stuck in traffic with us we're sorry
01:41:50
Sully Shaheed
Don't don't try to do this consecutively, because listen to Whirly Ball podcast. they They wear on you. You know what I'm saying?
01:41:59
Sully Shaheed
Right. Yeah, I know Seattle has to do with a lot of like rush hour traffic, and they got like one highway in and out that motherfucker. So I know they can listen to the whole thing on the way to work in the home.
01:42:10
Sully Shaheed
Um, I got one random question for you before, before we get out of here. Are you familiar with dragon ball Z lore?
01:42:22
Chilly
It depends on how far we're going back or forward.
01:42:25
Sully Shaheed
The original Dragon Ball. So this is this is ah this is a Nimbus Cloud question. Because remember, in order to ride the Nimbus Cloud, you have to be pure of heart.
01:42:36
Sully Shaheed
That's the only requirement.
01:42:36
Chilly
Okay.
01:42:37
Sully Shaheed
Goku was pure of heart, so he got to ride the Nimbus Cloud. What Whirly Ball player or players would be able to ride the Nimbus Cloud?
01:42:47
Chilly
Troy Montgomery.
01:42:49
Sully Shaheed
Shut the fuck Shut the fuck
01:42:52
Chilly
if mean, am I wrong?
01:42:57
Chilly
think
01:42:57
Sully Shaheed
gonna say I was going to say John Hanson.
01:43:01
Chilly
Oh, yeah. Hanson, for sure. could write Yeah, but Troy.
01:43:03
Sully Shaheed
Hanson can ride the Nimbus cloud. I think he can ride the Nimbus cloud.
01:43:06
Chilly
Man, we're naming a bunch of Texas guys that can ride the Nubis Club.
01:43:11
Sully Shaheed
It's only two Texas guys. I don't think anybody in Michigan can ride the Nimbus cloud.
01:43:17
Sully Shaheed
Kalen, maybe. An argument can be made.
01:43:21
Chilly
uh anybody in michigan on the nimbus cloud i feel like hyzel i feel like hyzel could probably ride
01:43:28
Sully Shaheed
i think I think Kelsey Carter can ride the Nimbus cloud.
01:43:35
Sully Shaheed
Oh, yeah, Heisel. Heisel is pure heart. Yeah, you're right. yeah that's ah that's a That's a good shout.
01:43:42
Chilly
i feel like hyzel i feel like hyzel could ride the nimbus cloud
01:43:42
Sully Shaheed
That's a good shout. ah Teresa Barlow.
01:43:52
Chilly
Yeah, yeah.
01:43:53
Sully Shaheed
I think she can ride the Nimbus cloud.
01:43:55
Chilly
as I think ah yeah Sarah Doherty could probably ride the Nimbus cloud.
01:43:59
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen, no, half the members that created this burn book, they're not pure of heart, okay?
01:44:00
Chilly
Nope.
01:44:05
Sully Shaheed
They had a part in that. So maybe that disqualifies Teresa too. You can't be pure heart if you're, yeah, I don't know.
01:44:14
Chilly
I'll put, I'll, let's see. Anybody from our center on the cloud?
01:44:20
Sully Shaheed
Hell no! Are you kidding?
01:44:26
Sully Shaheed
Larry, maybe?
01:44:31
Chilly
Yeah, yeah, none of us are on the cloud. We're terrible. Um, like, I was going to make an argument for Ty, but, like, Ty said some out-of-pocket stuff while we were there about some people.
01:44:34
Sully Shaheed
No, exactly.
01:44:43
Chilly
I'm like, bro.
01:44:44
Sully Shaheed
Sure as hell did. You know who his dad is?
01:44:45
Chilly
It's like, goddammit, Ty.
01:44:48
Sully Shaheed
Like, right, he ain't riding the Nimbus cloud.
01:44:49
Chilly
Um,
01:44:51
Sully Shaheed
Sorry. Sorry.
01:44:52
Chilly
ah
01:44:53
Sully Shaheed
He's he's not riding the Nimbus cloud.
01:44:55
Chilly
Yeah. I feel like DeWitt ah feel like dewi can go on the Nimbus Cloud.
01:45:00
Sully Shaheed
Ooh, ooh.
01:45:02
Chilly
I feel like DeWitt makes the cloud.
01:45:05
Sully Shaheed
I think DeWitt could ride the Nimbus cloud.
01:45:07
Chilly
and think he can ride the Nimbus Cloud.
01:45:09
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. That's, yeah. that's That's a good shout. That's a good shout. Who is, oh my God, I can't think of his name right now. He is like, I think he plays C. I know he plays C. He's like the nicest. freak You know what?
01:45:24
Sully Shaheed
I'm sorry. Dalton can ride the Nimbus cloud. How did I not say Dalton first? Dalton is definitely allowed to ride the Nimbus cloud.
01:45:35
Chilly
Is he a pure of heart
01:45:36
Sully Shaheed
He's probably the most pure heart guy there.
01:45:40
Chilly
heart? Is he? I'm
01:45:42
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:45:44
Chilly
joking.
01:45:45
Sully Shaheed
I would hope.
01:45:46
Chilly
yes I'm joking.
01:45:48
Sully Shaheed
You know something about Dalton, we don't.
01:45:55
Chilly
are you ah you are you ah Are you talking about from Chicago?
01:45:55
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, Dalton, you're right, the Nibis Clout.
01:46:00
Chilly
Are you talking about are you talking about brendan
01:46:05
Sully Shaheed
Yes, yes, yes, Brendan.
01:46:06
Chilly
um fifty three
01:46:09
Sully Shaheed
Oh, my God. He's the nicest in person on the planet. If anybody is pure of heart and can ride the Nimbus Cloud, it's Brendan. Yes.
01:46:22
Sully Shaheed
Brendan, thank you. Thank you. He can ride the Nimbus Cloud.
01:46:28
Sully Shaheed
Definitely. Sorry, I had to go on my tangent real quick. Now now now I'm approaching the two-hour mark, and I'm not even salty about it. fun conversation. So yeah.
01:46:39
Sully Shaheed
it What's that?
01:46:39
Chilly
I'm
01:46:41
Sully Shaheed
What are you about say?
01:46:42
Chilly
trying to think of anybody else that could be on the Nimbus.
01:46:46
Sully Shaheed
Listen, if you've made it to this point of the podcast, put down in the comments, who is pure of heart and whirly ball and can ride the Nimbus cloud? Because that's, that's something that I need to know.
01:46:57
Sully Shaheed
Okay. It's, it's important to me. If Brendan can ride the Nimbus cloud, Dalton can ride the Nimbus cloud. And Johnny Buckets are my top three to be able to ride the Nimbus cloud. That's baby Goku's incarnate right there, okay?
01:47:13
Sully Shaheed
we just need We just need to finish the Johnny Buckets comeback story, and he needs to just go Super Saiyan one tournament and just win outright. Sweep all the way through brackets, seeding, everything.
01:47:24
Sully Shaheed
We need to bring it home for Johnny Buckets, man. it It's got to happen. It's got to happen. I got a feeling it's going to happen like sooner than later, so...
01:47:36
Sully Shaheed
you know we give him grief about you know whatever place in third place and blah blah he gives himself enough shit if you haven't listened to the roast but like he's he's one of the good guys in whirly ball one of the few that are left remember i'm just turning the community into assholes like me
01:47:56
Sully Shaheed
Having said that, Chili, it's been a blast. I appreciate it. Thanks for coming in. Make sure to tune in to the top 10, the official top 10 list next week or the week after or whenever we feel like it because we are not court mandated to make podcasts.
01:48:11
Sully Shaheed
And um yeah, man, it's it's been a fun one. And we will see you all on the next edition of What in the World East Edition. I've been Sully. That's your boy, Chill. Peace out.