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What in The Whirl East Edition: THE Top Ten List 2025
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Buckle up, East Coast whirlyball fans—it’s about to get heated! In this episode, we go all-in debating the Top 10 offensive assassins and Top 10 defensive enforcers in the game right now. Who’s dropping buckets with ease? Who’s locking down lanes like a fortress? No player is safe as we break down the skills, swagger, and big-game moments that separate the good from the legendary. Expect bold rankings, passionate arguments, and just enough trash talk to keep things interesting. This is whirlyball like you’ve never heard it before.
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Transcript
Introduction & Theme: Top 10 Whirly Ball Players
00:00:01
Sully Shaheed
We are back again to bring you the definitive, the only top 10 list in Whirly Ball for offensive and defensive players that matters.
00:00:11
Sully Shaheed
We are, what is it? see This is take two you know of this one, but take two-ish.
00:00:16
Chilly
Take two-ish. Take two-ish.
00:00:19
Sully Shaheed
The first one was actually hilarious, but this one we're going to knock out of the park. So stay tuned to the Word in the World East Edition, the real edition. Here we go.
Challenges in Ranking & Player Reactions
00:00:45
Sully Shaheed
Sorry to be so abrupt, but welcome in to the What in the World East Edition. I am your host, Sully Ali Shahid, and join me tonight, chill man, my main man, my partner in crime, my guy.
00:00:59
Sully Shaheed
What's going on tonight?
00:01:02
Chilly
ah You know, just have a couple of lists here. um Are we piecing the first one back are we just starting from the top?
00:01:09
Sully Shaheed
We're starting from the top. It's all at the top.
00:01:12
Chilly
All right, we're starting from the top.
00:01:12
Sully Shaheed
You know, so it's if you if you want to do if you want to do John Gruden again, you can. well We just got to get there.
00:01:20
Chilly
I don't know. lad It seemed like that was just an in the moment type of thing.
00:01:24
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I agree. That shit was hilarious.
00:01:28
Chilly
But, um man, not good. as again As I explained in the in the first one, that's going just be a director's cut at this point. ah Trying to put these lists together.
00:01:36
Sully Shaheed
Right.
00:01:38
Chilly
Giant pain in the ass. lot of fucking scribbles. i A players as a whole, y'all need to do better. i need more of you to stand the fuck out to make this easier on me.
00:01:50
Chilly
The top four on each list is pretty simple. um But, God damn it.
00:01:55
Sully Shaheed
Is it though? Is it though?
00:01:57
Chilly
God damn it. at least i could be like At least I could be like top four or top five, right? And then the rest, man. what it just it's this it's says It's something, man. I have so many goddamn scribbles on my sheets.
00:02:11
Chilly
There's just...
00:02:12
Sully Shaheed
Well, it's like I said, you you put a not a lot more analysis into your top 10. I put a lot more bias into mine. So remember that it is an opinion.
00:02:24
Sully Shaheed
It is our opinion. We are not the the dictators of the top 10. And, you know, I think a lot of people did come up to us.
00:02:31
Chilly
I mean, but are we, though? Are we, though? Because Kyle Phillips was sure up my ass a lot about being like, I'm too well on the list.
00:02:34
Sully Shaheed
I mean.
00:02:39
Chilly
I'm too well on the list. You got to have me hire. And you know what? He fucking made his case.
00:02:42
Sully Shaheed
He did.
00:02:45
Sully Shaheed
He did. did
00:02:46
Chilly
I give him a lot of credit. At least at least he he at leasts he tried to sell me. In our first a game, ah when we played him, he blocked FA couple times. He's like, am I moving up the list?
00:02:58
Chilly
He didn't care about the score the game. Yeah.
Significance of Rankings & Humorous Comparisons
00:03:03
Chilly
He's like, am I fucking moving up? You know what? Fuck it. Yeah, you blocked Anthony three times? I love that. Fuck it.
00:03:09
Sully Shaheed
Well, maybe our list does matter, Joe. You just sold it to me.
00:03:13
Chilly
don't know.
00:03:13
Sully Shaheed
You just sold it to me.
00:03:15
Chilly
I think it matters to some. I think deep down there are some people that are like, these goddamn fucking guys. Who they? Who the fuck are these two losers?
00:03:22
Sully Shaheed
right who Who do you think you are? am.
00:03:27
Chilly
I mean, like, I think what it is is, like, you and I are low-key. Like, we're starting out at this point as Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharp, although I do not want to be Skip Bayless. So, at this point, we can just be Shannon Sharp and you can be Stephen A. Smith.
00:03:44
Chilly
yeah At some point, us talking random nonsense is going to matter.
00:03:49
Sully Shaheed
Skip, skip, skip, skip, skip.
00:03:50
Chilly
Skip, skip.
00:03:50
Sully Shaheed
Now, now, now, now, now.
00:03:51
Chilly
What do you want? Both. B-O-F-F. Both.
00:03:52
Sully Shaheed
You get
00:03:52
Chilly
Both. Seattle, too.
00:03:56
Chilly
what do you want both b o f both
00:04:08
Sully Shaheed
a pawn, you get a guard, and James Harden.
00:04:09
Chilly
ah dont see
00:04:10
Sully Shaheed
Link is in five.
00:04:12
Chilly
like like seattletle two
00:04:15
Sully Shaheed
Seattle, two.
00:04:17
Chilly
yeah
00:04:21
Sully Shaheed
Horseshoe, gumshoe, blue chew, Seattle in two.
00:04:27
Sully Shaheed
Well, we are here again.
Diversity in Rankings & Personal Stories
00:04:29
Sully Shaheed
the the the As I stated before, the quote-unquote lower players should not be offended by anything that we say because there's going to be a lot of veterans on the list, lot of A players on the list.
00:04:41
Sully Shaheed
Certain cities are represented more than most as well. And a suggestion that I had is that maybe – if feedback is good enough that we make a separate top 10 list of excluding a players.
00:04:57
Sully Shaheed
So if the feedback is strong enough, we will do that for an upcoming podcast, but only, only if there's enough likes on the podcast, if there's enough comments on the Facebook post, I'm not asking for much, just a simple tap of the button.
00:05:04
Chilly
so but
00:05:16
Chilly
would we Would we do division by division or would we just rank B, C, and B all together?
00:05:22
Sully Shaheed
we Just clump them all together. Just clump them all together.
00:05:24
Chilly
i got I got a question for you.
00:05:27
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:05:27
Chilly
Where would or lord Ricky rank on your
00:05:32
Sully Shaheed
We're with who?
00:05:33
Chilly
ricky
00:05:37
Sully Shaheed
it
00:05:37
Chilly
That's your favorite teammate.
00:05:48
Sully Shaheed
How fucking dare you?
00:05:50
Chilly
but
00:05:53
Sully Shaheed
i
00:05:57
Chilly
I assume he's top five.
00:05:57
Sully Shaheed
Listen, um
00:05:58
Chilly
I assume he's in top five.
00:06:00
Sully Shaheed
disclaimer, um not a disclaimer, but a PSA. Again, if you haven't listened to the Nationals recap show that we did, ah make sure you listen to that. um Also, what in the world, the original, the OG, the OG, the gangstas out in Seattle, you know, go listen to them.
00:06:18
Sully Shaheed
There is a part two of a certain roast episode That's coming up um for from the Texas boys. So make sure you listen to that in the in the future. And of course, Chicago, the high tech live stream action.
00:06:32
Sully Shaheed
Make sure you pay attention to those guys. So there's plenty of Whirly Ball camaraderie within the podcasting community. So make sure you tune in into all those as well.
00:06:43
Chilly
Yeah, and like you said, ah long story short, at least for my list, again, if you played if you play d C, or B, and yeah and you're thinking you're going to be on any of my lists, just know ah it ain't going to fucking happen. I'm just going to go on a tangent where essentially just ends in get good at this point.
00:07:03
Chilly
um
00:07:04
Sully Shaheed
Do better?
00:07:06
Chilly
Do better. Again, if you have a problem with my list and you want to confront me, come up to A or invite me down to your division. um I mean, technically, by the rules, I could visit B if I wanted to.
00:07:18
Chilly
So if you've got a fucking problem with it, i can take i can take a nice stroll through there.
00:07:20
Sully Shaheed
Is it?
00:07:24
Chilly
um But no, again here.
00:07:26
Sully Shaheed
but Come on down. The water's fine.
00:07:29
Chilly
Yeah, again here, you know, strives to drives to, you know, get on the list, get acclimated, you know. You just be like, fuck those guys. I'm getting on the list.
00:07:39
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, you could definitely do that. I mean, but again, who are we? Who are we, right?
00:07:45
Chilly
I mean, you know, to some of the people out there, this matters.
00:07:45
Sully Shaheed
But, uh,
00:07:52
Sully Shaheed
facts, facts.
00:07:53
Chilly
Actually, don't even know if I say some people.
00:07:53
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen.
00:07:56
Chilly
To somebody, matters. It matters.
00:08:01
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen.
00:08:03
Chilly
Because it's have to fucking hear about.
00:08:04
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen.
00:08:05
Chilly
Ain't no John Hansons on my list, all right?
00:08:06
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen.
00:08:08
Chilly
Ain't no fucking third place average C goalies on my list.
00:08:08
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen. and
00:08:12
Sully Shaheed
All I know is that, and chill, you were a witness to it. At the banquet, what did James Gill introduce me as to his son?
00:08:25
Chilly
I don't... I was at the table.
00:08:26
Sully Shaheed
Do you?
00:08:26
Chilly
just... don't remember.
00:08:27
Sully Shaheed
He said, remember and remember who you're speaking to.
00:08:27
Chilly
I don't remember.
00:08:30
Sully Shaheed
You're talking to the ninth best goalie of all time in volleyball.
00:08:33
Chilly
he did If it came from James...
00:08:35
Sully Shaheed
James Gill. James Gill said this about me. So i just want to let y'all know that it matters.
00:08:42
Chilly
You think...
00:08:44
Sully Shaheed
This list matters.
00:08:46
Chilly
it I think to me that that's pretty apparent.
00:08:46
Sully Shaheed
It matters.
00:08:48
Chilly
You strike fear in Gil.
00:08:50
Sully Shaheed
Right. If the GOAT.
00:08:53
Sully Shaheed
says that I am on my own list, then you have to respect it.
00:08:55
Chilly
Yeah.
00:08:58
Sully Shaheed
I'm just saying.
00:08:59
Chilly
Oh... oh Owen will never know you as anything else but the ninth best goalie in the game.
00:09:03
Sully Shaheed
They're
00:09:06
Chilly
yeah
00:09:08
Sully Shaheed
like, oh, there's Sully. Yep. Somebody's about to get blocked.
Criteria for Ranking & Upcoming Events
00:09:12
Sully Shaheed
I know it. I know it. Oh, and the last disclaimer, of course, before we jump into it, is that you needed to be an attendee of last year's Nationals.
00:09:22
Sully Shaheed
um As we stated before, most of most of the list that, you know, were comprised of Texas guys. And, you know, unfortunately, no Bolte, no Carter.
00:09:34
Sully Shaheed
You know, recent Hall of Famer, Jeremy Bennett. I mean, he's not on there because you weren't there. So you have to actively participate in the years before as nationals to get on the list.
00:09:42
Chilly
Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. So again, just because you showed up, b Brian Crosby, Mike Wall, you're not on the list.
00:09:54
Chilly
You showed up. You didn't play. No Brandon Chapman's riches. No, you ain't on the list.
00:09:59
Sully Shaheed
We can't, i mean I mean, honorary, you know, for greatest. I mean, Brian Crosby made it. Mike Wall was there. I mean, like, how impactful was that?
00:10:09
Chilly
He was there. i mean, if yeah if if he would have stepped onto the court and played one game or one minute, I could have slapped him down here on the list. Nope.
00:10:21
Sully Shaheed
He definitely would have been on it.
00:10:21
Chilly
Mike lost out.
00:10:22
Chilly
I mean, out of all the out of all the greatest achievements Mike Wall has in his Whirly Ball career yet to appear on our list.
00:10:23
Sully Shaheed
He would have been on it.
00:10:30
Chilly
So that, to me, just screams scrub.
00:10:36
Sully Shaheed
I'm going to have to agree with you, Chill. And if anybody disagrees, say something.
00:10:37
Chilly
Yep. yeah And if Mike Wohl were to ever listen to this for some unforsaken reason, because God knows he never will, I'll see you in a buddy.
00:10:40
Sully Shaheed
Say
00:10:49
Sully Shaheed
Scrub.
00:10:50
Chilly
Scrub.
00:10:53
Sully Shaheed
All full disclaimer, we are going to jump back and forth between lists going from the 10 all the way up to the one. So we build anticipation on who made each other's list. Also, Chill and I have not discussed the list with anybody.
00:11:06
Sully Shaheed
So this is new information that is being slung between the both of us. So I'm intrigued to hear what he has to say. I'm pretty sure he's going to laugh at a lot of things that I have to say.
00:11:06
Chilly
No, God, no.
00:11:16
Sully Shaheed
So I think this is going to be a fun time. Chill, I think it's time we get... oh One last housekeeping note. If you're not signed up for the Minnesota Invitational that's right around the corner, make sure you get in there.
00:11:31
Sully Shaheed
More Worley Ball action is right around the corner. So go enjoy the peeps in Minnesota. Make sure you get your hotel rooms, your entry fees paid, all that good stuff. And if you're on the fence about going, jump over that fence and get in there for that Invitational. Minnesota's a great place.
00:11:48
Sully Shaheed
I'm pretty sure they're going to host a great invite. Make sure you get in there, man.
00:11:52
Chilly
As somebody who's been there during the first one, it's a great time. Truthfully, it's one of the cheaper invites you could do. a hotel is attached to the center. You don't even need to rent a car if you don't have to. You could technically take the hotel shuttle from the airport to the hotel, and you don't even need a car.
00:12:11
Chilly
Mall of America is literally a skip jump across the street. And... Heaven forbid, if you need a ride, I'm sure somebody there with a car will have one. ah Again, um if you get pissed off at me because you're not on the list, I will be at said invite.
00:12:21
Sully Shaheed
I
00:12:27
Chilly
So if that gets you there, God bless your soul. ah But again, if you're a lower player and you're not playing in an upper division, again, once again, get good and you can get on the list.
00:12:31
Sully Shaheed
will not.
00:12:38
Chilly
And ah yeah, i think I think we just we'll start from there.
00:12:43
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Oh, and, um you know, congratulations. I think he mentioned on another podcast, but I think Luke will not be in attendance at the invite. um Minnesota's own Luke, because he's having a baby.
00:12:55
Sully Shaheed
So congratulations to Luke on the...
00:12:56
Chilly
i think he's um I think he's on baby watch.
00:12:57
Sully Shaheed
Oh, baby, watch.
00:12:59
Chilly
I think the baby has a chance has a chance to be born during invite. I think that's how that went.
00:13:04
Sully Shaheed
Right, right, right. So still, congratulations on the pending...
00:13:07
Chilly
But if he was a really if he was a true Whirlyball player, he would be playing.
00:13:13
Sully Shaheed
I agree.
00:13:14
Chilly
Come on. Come on. you know you know how many You know how many healthy marriages Whirlyball has probably produced?
00:13:21
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, right.
Revealing the Top 10: Offense vs Defense
00:13:23
Sully Shaheed
Right.
00:13:23
Chilly
Right. Right?
00:13:26
Sully Shaheed
i mean, look at all the beautiful relationships that Whirly Ball has produced.
00:13:26
Chilly
It's not like, yeah, it's not it's not like my parents got divorced or anything. i don't know World of War had anything to do with it, but.
00:13:41
Sully Shaheed
Love it. Love it. So let's get into it, Chill. I'm excited. Let's bring it home.
00:13:46
Chilly
what are we Are we doing both simultaneously or are we doing like offense first and then we'll go over to the defense?
00:13:52
Sully Shaheed
Simultaneous. Simultaneous.
00:13:54
Chilly
We're going to go.
00:13:54
Sully Shaheed
We're going to go 10 and 10. 9 9. 8. Let's debate. Let's have some fun.
00:14:00
Chilly
debate by deb debateating by deb debate By debating, we're going yell.
00:14:00
Sully Shaheed
Let's get into it. Let's start.
00:14:03
Chilly
That's all that means. we don't Debate.
00:14:05
Sully Shaheed
We're not going to... You're not going to yell. Now, now, now, now, Skip.
00:14:08
Chilly
yeah
00:14:09
Sully Shaheed
Now, now, Skip, I don't see how you can think about putting this man
00:14:12
Chilly
There you go. There you go again. but There you go again.
00:14:19
Chilly
but
00:14:21
Sully Shaheed
door. Defender side, 10. ten Who you got?
00:14:26
Chilly
Who I got? At number 10, I have Texas' his own Doc. I got Doc at number 10.
00:14:38
Chilly
Doc did have one really rough game that did put him at 10. I think Barrett went for about 50. Snowy did apologize to Doc for letting that happen.
00:14:45
Sully Shaheed
ah
00:14:49
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, that's fair.
00:14:49
Chilly
ah Again here, Doc kind of comes in at 10. Doc tried to play a little bit more offense. He's got a good shot, so I know he's working on it. Becoming a more versatile player.
00:14:58
Sully Shaheed
Yep.
00:15:00
Chilly
Still a big scoop. Still fast for a man of his stature. um
00:15:04
Sully Shaheed
Yep.
00:15:05
Chilly
Again, i out of most out-of-towners, you know, struggle to drive the cars for the weekend. Kind of will grade this a little bit light on the scale. I got one.
00:15:16
Chilly
Doc. Number 10. What you got, Shannon?
00:15:20
Sully Shaheed
Number 10, I like your number 10. I like your number 10. I like your number 10. But listen, I'm going to kind of cop out on this one, Skip. I'm going to kind of cop out on this one because I couldn't decide who I wanted at the 10th spot. So I'm going to have to group these two individuals from Michigan together.
00:15:38
Sully Shaheed
I'm going with one, Zach Johnner and Driscoll. I wanted to put Driscoll more so on the list over Jonner because Jonner is a great picker.
00:15:49
Sully Shaheed
He's a great wing player as well. But he is, people forget how nasty of a defender that dude is. I'm talking active hands. I'm talking loose balls are his.
00:16:00
Sully Shaheed
I'm talking.
00:16:00
Chilly
I didn't forget.
00:16:01
Chilly
i didn't forget. i think it's a travesty. You got that man at 10. I think, I think, I think you got, I think you got genre too low, man.
00:16:05
Sully Shaheed
oh you think I got him too low? You think I got him too low? You think I got him too low?
00:16:10
Chilly
I don't, I think without genre being there, I think, I think Heisel, I think Heisel would have got cooked more. I think, I think you needed to have genre higher on the list.
00:16:22
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen, man, listen, i mac ma i might make the same I might make the same debate about Doc, all right?
00:16:22
Chilly
Hmm. Hmm.
00:16:25
Chilly
Hmm.
00:16:27
Sully Shaheed
Even though Doc's good shooter now, all right? That man's still a primary defender. And take him out of Seattle, that man is a stalwart on defense. Almost impossible to shoot over.
00:16:40
Sully Shaheed
All right, think you got Doc a little too low. But we'll get there.
00:16:44
Chilly
But guess what? Guess what? The game was played in Seattle, so fuck off.
00:16:49
Chilly
But there is some merit.
00:16:50
Sully Shaheed
one
00:16:50
Chilly
We do...
00:16:50
Sully Shaheed
once Once every five years, once every five years, some goalies are going to get cooked.
00:16:56
Chilly
it's longer than that now. We have 8 million, you know, Kakarot just climbed, you know.
00:16:58
Sully Shaheed
Oh, yeah?
00:17:01
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, that's true.
00:17:01
Chilly
everybody Everybody gets a nationals now, but
00:17:04
Sully Shaheed
That's true. That's true. And I wanted to group Driscoll here because he played more defense. And then he's obviously a tall, quick, active scoop. Again, you know, those guys that are over six feet are naturally tall. And he extends as well.
00:17:18
Sully Shaheed
So he's another tough shot.
00:17:19
Chilly
Man, I get so much grief for extending Driscoll's like all the way out the car. And he offensively extends.
00:17:24
Sully Shaheed
He is. He's the human extension.
00:17:26
Chilly
Why do I get so much grief?
00:17:28
Sully Shaheed
He's the human extension. He's probably extending right now. He probably extends when he drives a car. Like, I get it. His normal vehicle.
00:17:36
Chilly
think think You think he Ace Ventures it and he fucking he leans out?
00:17:44
Sully Shaheed
That's got to be the case, right?
00:17:45
Chilly
You think he pet detectives it and he's hanging his head out the window?
00:17:46
Sully Shaheed
That's got to be the case.
00:17:48
Chilly
Because the the screen is all cracked?
00:17:48
Sully Shaheed
That's Driscoll. That's Driscoll. 100%. hundred percent
00:17:52
Chilly
Yep. 100%.
00:17:53
Sully Shaheed
hundred 100%. 100%.
00:17:55
Chilly
He's definitely Ace Ventura.
00:17:55
Sully Shaheed
So you got Doc. You got Doc. I got Zach Johner plus Driscoll at number 10. We're going to slide over to the offensive side of the ball where controversy is bound to stir because at number 10,
00:18:09
Sully Shaheed
I have who had one of, and he admitted himself, a piss poor shooting performance with throughout the days, throughout the tournament. You can blame it on his illness.
00:18:20
Sully Shaheed
He got the Hall of Fame bid. I get it. But Joe Tiffany, you are at the bottom of the list this time. I am so sorry. Normally, without question, a top three consideration.
00:18:35
Sully Shaheed
But this year, my friend, again, I don't know if it was the illness. I don't know. i don't know what it was. But the shooting was, he looked human. He looked human for once.
00:18:47
Sully Shaheed
So Joe Tiffany, for me, comes in at number 10.
00:18:50
Chilly
I'm not going to disregard that. I know we're not supposed to take, you know... the, the, the, the past into account. So I, I'm not going to, I'm not going to discourage you from that.
00:19:00
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:19:04
Chilly
Um, I think on his team, he had to probably play a little bit more goalie than what he should have. Um, and I think he even, you know, I think he'll even tell you that he had a not so good shooting nationals.
00:19:10
Sully Shaheed
Right.
00:19:17
Chilly
So I think, I think it's going to be a little bit of a hot take.
00:19:18
Sully Shaheed
Right.
00:19:22
Chilly
Uh, you know, we'll see what he says, but, um,
00:19:23
Sully Shaheed
Hot. Hot. Hot.
00:19:26
Sully Shaheed
It's hot. Hot.
00:19:26
Chilly
hot thing it's ah It's a hot take.
00:19:29
Chilly
It's a hot take, you know.
00:19:29
Sully Shaheed
Scorching hot.
00:19:30
Chilly
you know But you know what?
00:19:30
Sully Shaheed
Scorching hot.
00:19:31
Chilly
this Again, you know, this ah he can move up. He can move up the list, you know. He can move up. So.
00:19:39
Sully Shaheed
And he will bonafide hall of famer bonafide argue. You know, he's, he's a LeBron James compared to, you know, James Gills, Jordan, you know, who's better in their prime, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:19:51
Sully Shaheed
But he had a down year. had a down year.
00:19:54
Chilly
Get it down there. He had it down here. I mean, he went unlimited still.
00:19:58
Sully Shaheed
For his standards, for his standards. I want to preface that with it.
00:20:00
Chilly
first Skip.
00:20:01
Sully Shaheed
For Joe Tiffany.
00:20:04
Chilly
Skip, he will never be Michael Jordan, okay? Where you have Joe Tippett? He's not even on Mount Rushmore, right? No.
00:20:13
Sully Shaheed
you know about re
00:20:16
Chilly
That would be a whole different podcast.
00:20:16
Sully Shaheed
you
00:20:17
Chilly
That would be a whole different podcast.
00:20:18
Sully Shaheed
I know, right? Oh, the Mount Rushmore podcast.
00:20:20
Chilly
Okay.
00:20:20
Sully Shaheed
Oh my God. That'll be some debating right there. But who you got at 10?
00:20:26
Chilly
Yeah.
00:20:26
Sully Shaheed
Who you got at 10?
00:20:28
Chilly
Uh, 10. Um, I'm gonna keep it within the family.
00:20:35
Chilly
I put my brother down there at 10. Uh, gets down there at 10 because he's still, he may have not have had the best shooting nationals, but still gets all of the respect of being covered.
00:20:40
Sully Shaheed
I respect that.
00:20:50
Chilly
Um, you know I may have had a better shooting Nationals than he did, but i don't get the open looks without him garnering all the attention. So I got one Anthony Ola at 10.
00:21:05
Chilly
um Still had games where he shot lights out. um So i still got I still got one Anthony Ola at 10. Now, Anthony and they will probably tell you himself he may he may not deserve to be on the list.
00:21:19
Chilly
So humble brag to him, but...
00:21:21
Sully Shaheed
Well, Anthony's a humble guy, and I'm the one that's going to stick up for him because there ain't no way you disrespected your own brother by putting him at 10.
00:21:22
Chilly
know why
00:21:29
Sully Shaheed
You're going to find his name a lot higher later on. I'll tell you that right now. Skip.
00:21:36
Chilly
Hey man, sometimes so sometimes you gotta keep it real with family, man. I got him at number 10. a
00:21:43
Sully Shaheed
Biased kicks in finally. And speaking of biased, we are going to back to the defenders as we sit down at the number nine spot. And if you don't know who's coming in at number nine, endorsed by one James Gill.
00:22:02
Sully Shaheed
yeah
00:22:02
Chilly
It's for the bit.
00:22:03
Sully Shaheed
It's me.
00:22:04
Chilly
It's for the bit.
00:22:04
Sully Shaheed
yeah It's It's me, okay? The most flamboyant, dominant defender in the lower divisions has to be your boy, Sully. once again, if he's not endorsed, but who else who else got endorsed by James Gill this year as the ninth best goalie, not just at Nationals Chill, but out of his mouth of all time?
00:22:29
Sully Shaheed
So I got to put myself at nine.
00:22:29
Chilly
he did he did He did say it at the table. i was there. i can
00:22:33
Sully Shaheed
I, I'm just saying, I'm just saying.
00:22:34
Chilly
give vouch
00:22:36
Sully Shaheed
So if you look at the, if you look at the tournament game that we won, who had the game winning block and had the flash, the nine in front of someone's face.
00:22:36
Chilly
it's bad
00:22:44
Chilly
what's what's What scrub did you block?
00:22:46
Sully Shaheed
I'm just saying, uh, Oh boy from Michigan. Um, and he's not a scrub. He's a good guy. Why can't I think of his name right now?
00:22:56
Chilly
Are you talking? Did you?
00:22:57
Sully Shaheed
Uh,
00:22:58
Chilly
There's only one. You blocked Keegan?
00:23:00
Sully Shaheed
Keegan, thank you, I blocked Keegan.
00:23:01
Chilly
Okay. All right. Let me strike it from the record. Keegan is not a scrub. He's cool.
00:23:06
Sully Shaheed
Right.
00:23:06
Sully Shaheed
Keegan's good dude, man. Keegan's cool, cool.
00:23:07
Chilly
He's cool.
00:23:08
Chilly
he He's cool. so He's cool.
00:23:09
Sully Shaheed
He's a good player, he's a good shooter, too.
00:23:10
Chilly
He's cool. He's cool. All right. All right. That's fair. Man, but for the bit, number nine, man, you are you're sure? You sure? You're ah you're a ninth best plays a offense.
00:23:22
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I know. But that was for my team.
00:23:24
Sully Shaheed
But hey, but listen, the team dynamic is subject to change this year. So your boy might be in the hole a lot more. And I'm fine with that.
00:23:24
Chilly
yeah
00:23:35
Sully Shaheed
So I think that I can return to the dominant spot that I'm at sitting right in the hole.
00:23:43
Chilly
Hey, that's fair.
00:23:43
Sully Shaheed
But having said that, having said that, I've been shooting a little bit. You what I'm saying? I've been shooting a little bit. You I'm saying?
00:23:51
Chilly
we don't We don't want to talk about that first game out of practice.
00:23:54
Sully Shaheed
Oh, God.
00:23:57
Sully Shaheed
You can tell ain't played for a month.
00:23:57
Chilly
yeah
00:24:01
Chilly
My man came out struggled to hit the bottom of the backboard.
00:24:04
Sully Shaheed
No, see, no, that's the funny thing. The first shot that I took went in. And then everything else fucking hit, missed fucking everywhere.
00:24:14
Chilly
it It was so true.
00:24:16
Sully Shaheed
but then But then that last game, though, the last game, your boy lit it up.
00:24:18
Chilly
Last game you came alive. Last game you came alive.
00:24:22
Sully Shaheed
Your boy lit it up a little bit.
00:24:24
Chilly
Yeah. Two welds and up.
00:24:24
Sully Shaheed
But anyway, two welds it up, baby.
00:24:26
Chilly
if
00:24:27
Sully Shaheed
welds and up. That's right.
00:24:28
Chilly
Two welds and up.
00:24:29
Sully Shaheed
That's right. So what you got for number nine on the offensive side or defensive side of ball?
00:24:32
Chilly
On
00:24:34
Sully Shaheed
Defensive side of ball.
00:24:36
Chilly
the defensive side of the ball, this is my only grouping together.
00:24:42
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen, I did it, so you can do it too.
00:24:45
Chilly
I do got the Dobie brothers
00:24:52
Chilly
yeah at nine, respectively. I have Jarrett and Brad. I got to pump up my teammates here on the list.
00:25:00
Chilly
I do have them, respectively, there.
00:25:00
Sully Shaheed
Oh, look at you. Bias is really kicking in today. First, you put your brother on one side. Then you take both teammates of yours on the other side. I mean, we is Patrick going to be number one goalie?
00:25:09
Chilly
We... Hey!
00:25:12
Sully Shaheed
I mean, what's going on here?
00:25:15
Chilly
Spoiler. He's not. that should play well Patrick played a lot of good floater for us, so I can't really complain.
00:25:17
Sully Shaheed
Not yet.
00:25:22
Chilly
um But no, I got the Dobies there. ah They could be a little bit higher, but um they dig it a there was a decent amount of extensions called, so that that that kind of hampers them.
00:25:34
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, you get penalized, yeah.
00:25:37
Sully Shaheed
Right.
00:25:37
Chilly
But they they they did play great when they were back there.
00:25:41
Chilly
ah do have the slimmest of Reapers and Brad... tied respectively and number nine.
00:25:49
Sully Shaheed
Another disrespectful ranking from you. Another disrespectful ranking from you.
00:25:53
Chilly
your lists don't even count.
00:25:56
Sully Shaheed
Bitch! What the f- you mean by this no count?
00:26:00
Chilly
Your lists don't even count.
00:26:01
Sully Shaheed
Anybody want to come at me, come at me.
00:26:04
Sully Shaheed
I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
00:26:04
Chilly
Come on.
00:26:06
Chilly
Mmm.
00:26:06
Sully Shaheed
Come on. Come on.
00:26:07
Chilly
Mmm.
00:26:08
Sully Shaheed
Come on. right. All right. Haters going to hate, man. Haters going to hate.
Ranking Criteria & Personal Connections
00:26:12
Sully Shaheed
And that's that's the type of that's the type of animosity I'm looking for. If you ain't got haters, you better go find you some is all I'm saying.
00:26:20
Sully Shaheed
um Offensively, back to number nine. Chill. Who puts up the points at number nine on your list?
00:26:28
Chilly
At number nine, I got one Brad Peters at number nine.
00:26:34
Sully Shaheed
You are just full of disrespect tonight for these freaking players.
00:26:38
Chilly
I'm not. I'm not.
00:26:39
Sully Shaheed
You are full of it.
00:26:41
Chilly
Although, Peters almost fell off my list because that man had a terrible... He shot like shit in the A tournament itself. He was awful.
00:26:53
Chilly
he was He was fucking dog dog water. All right.
00:26:57
Sully Shaheed
Man, some people have bad days, man.
00:26:57
Chilly
right
00:26:59
Chilly
Yeah, yeah, and bad days is what can, one bad day can just absolutely, you know, tarnish you on this list.
00:27:00
Sully Shaheed
Overall,
00:27:06
Sully Shaheed
You're talking about an unlimited champion.
00:27:09
Chilly
Yeah, like three years running now.
00:27:11
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, and and somehow.
00:27:12
Chilly
Yeah. but I'm sorry, was he was he dominating Ben Heisel and them in the key?
00:27:16
Sully Shaheed
Nine?
00:27:18
Chilly
i don't think so.
00:27:18
Sully Shaheed
Nine? Nine? He could have. Brad Peters lives in the key.
00:27:25
Chilly
I've seen him miss layups in the A tournament.
00:27:28
Sully Shaheed
He just, I mean, I'm just saying.
00:27:29
Chilly
yeah but
00:27:30
Sully Shaheed
say ah
00:27:32
Chilly
He sucked.
00:27:32
Sully Shaheed
You're just so disrespectful tonight.
00:27:34
Chilly
He sucked in the tournament. Now, throughout seeding, great.
00:27:36
Sully Shaheed
You're so disrespectful tonight.
00:27:40
Chilly
He shot great. he He played great. But you could literally watch in the one in the one game. You see joe you know old Joe Tiffany come out there and just do this.
00:27:51
Chilly
ja
00:27:53
Sully Shaheed
Old Joe.
00:27:54
Chilly
no Yeah. Yeah. It was like, hey, man, maybe you should move your fucking arm inside.
00:27:57
Sully Shaheed
Old Joe.
00:28:01
Sully Shaheed
yeah Old Joe.
00:28:02
Chilly
Oh, Joe, he came out there.
00:28:04
Sully Shaheed
Old man Joe Silver there. All right, so Brad Peters. Wow, Brad, beat nine, holy crap.
00:28:14
Chilly
Nine, bro. Nine.
00:28:15
Sully Shaheed
Okay. Okay. Well, you know, at my nine spot, I got to kick it back to my Michigan roots. Okay. I got to go with one Douglas Troyer. All right. He ain't fell off.
00:28:26
Sully Shaheed
You know what saying? All he does is light up nets. And the man is still one of the biggest sharpshooters in the game from any well to any spot of the court. This man is still to be feared to this day.
00:28:39
Sully Shaheed
So I gots to go with Doug Troyer on this one.
00:28:42
Chilly
Doesn't winning have to matter?
00:28:42
Sully Shaheed
Give me Doug.
00:28:46
Sully Shaheed
I need to know how often you can put ball in bucket, all right?
00:28:50
Chilly
Now, they knocked us out.
00:28:51
Sully Shaheed
And Doug does it at a high frequency, a very high frequency.
00:28:57
Chilly
Listen, they knocked us out this year to their credit, right? So kudos to them. But the rest of the tournament, I just, again, I think Doug was in consideration for the 10th spot on my list.
00:29:10
Chilly
I think i had i had a group.
00:29:11
Sully Shaheed
um
00:29:11
Chilly
we we can we can get to the We can get to the clutters when we need to of who almost made the list, who didn't. um
00:29:18
Sully Shaheed
The old honorable mention, yes.
00:29:20
Chilly
The honorable mention, like, you know. But don't know, man. I think winning's got to matter. Winning has to matter. Come on, Shannon. Two-time Super Bowl champion.
00:29:31
Sully Shaheed
Listen, listen, if was the only thing, Darko Miletic would be in the Hall of Fame, okay?
00:29:33
Chilly
Two-time Super Bowl champion. You know how to win, damn it.
00:29:40
Sully Shaheed
Who got a championship first? Was it LeBron? No. Was it Chris Bosh? No. It was Darko Miletic. Now, if you want to talk about that winning and all that matters, put Darko in Hall of Fame then.
00:29:51
Sully Shaheed
Put him up there. Put him Winning all that matters. Winning's got to matter. Where's case for Darko? Huh?
00:30:00
Sully Shaheed
That's what I thought.
00:30:03
Sully Shaheed
Swinging back to number eight on the defensive side. The disrespect stops for Doc. I'm putting Doc at number eight on the defenders list.
00:30:13
Sully Shaheed
Still sans one game. Again, a lot of defenders got cooked this year in the key. lot of defenders got cooked. But minus that, still, again, playing a little more offense now.
00:30:24
Sully Shaheed
Threat to be reckoned with when it comes to shooting the ball. But still a stout, solid defender. And if you didn't think I was going to not put any Texas love on here, you're sadly mistaken.
00:30:35
Sully Shaheed
Because Doc,
00:30:35
Chilly
Are you a fan of Texas?
00:30:36
Chilly
in No way.
00:30:38
Sully Shaheed
i'm afraid um I might be. ah might be.
00:30:40
Chilly
Wow.
00:30:40
Sully Shaheed
Wait until you're number seven.
00:30:41
Chilly
Who
00:30:42
Sully Shaheed
Might be.
00:30:45
Sully Shaheed
But Doc, solid eight. Got to go with my boy Doc on this one.
00:30:53
Sully Shaheed
Who you got?
00:30:54
Chilly
do I got?
00:30:57
Chilly
Who do I That's good question.
00:31:00
Sully Shaheed
Like you don't got the list right front of you.
00:31:01
Chilly
but its I do. I do.
00:31:05
Sully Shaheed
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00:31:08
Chilly
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00:31:18
Sully Shaheed
Hashtag I totally could be though.
00:31:18
Chilly
That's shy.
00:31:21
Chilly
At number eight, I do have one John Weber at number eight. Again, winning has to matter somewhat. um Again, played goalie on one of the top three teams, majority goalie.
00:31:37
Chilly
Lord knows he would be nowhere near the offensive list because shooting was horrendous. But he does he did.
00:31:44
Sully Shaheed
He prides himself good as a defender and he did his job well.
00:31:48
Chilly
He played well. um i do I do got Weber. Played great defense. Allowed Barrett and you know the other four unlimited people on his team um to should try and do their thing. um So, yeah, i got I got Weber. I think Weber played well.
00:32:07
Chilly
Um, you know, they almost, uh, they almost got to the championship game, but you know, there was points on the board and then the points got taken away. and then, uh, yeah.
00:32:19
Chilly
So like I got Weber.
00:32:20
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, there was some stuff going on. Yep.
00:32:22
Chilly
it's got Yeah.
00:32:22
Sully Shaheed
There was some stuff going on
00:32:23
Chilly
Yeah. yeah So I got Weber. I got, I got Weber at eight. Kudos to Weber.
00:32:30
Sully Shaheed
going Another disrespectful spot. But that's right. oh
00:32:35
Sully Shaheed
You will hear Weber's name in a little bit. Trust me. Trust me. Well, let's swing back to the offensive side. Eight. Who is sitting at eight for you?
00:32:47
Chilly
At eight.
00:32:49
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:32:49
Chilly
I think this might i think this may be this might be the hottest take. I actually think I have this individual too low.
00:32:57
Sully Shaheed
I put Joe Tiffany at 10, all right? Can it get hotter than the Hall of Famer at 10?
00:33:01
Chilly
yeah It can't get hotter. It can't get hotter. But got one Carl Strom. got but i got one karl strom
00:33:10
Sully Shaheed
Carl Strom!
00:33:14
Sully Shaheed
Okay, okay.
00:33:17
Chilly
I got Carl.
00:33:17
Sully Shaheed
Talk to me about Carl Strom.
00:33:17
Chilly
Hey, man.
00:33:19
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:33:20
Chilly
Every game I watch Carl play, that that dude lit it up. there's i mean, he whipped our ass, basically, in the game we lost him. We only got to play that one time. But, man, Carl carl does the same, man. He's a great shot.
00:33:35
Chilly
One of the smartest players out there. Can do everything. Carl shot great. Played great. got Carl. Number eight.
00:33:44
Sully Shaheed
Solid pick out of out of, honestly, very surprising. Very surprising, but respect.
00:33:51
Chilly
Yeah, if you if you go if you if you go back there and you watch a lot of the games where they're so focused on Joe and like Carl just tears these teams apart.
00:33:51
Sully Shaheed
Respect to Karl Strahm, respect.
00:34:04
Sully Shaheed
Respect, respect. At eight for me, I got the fastest gun in the West. Eric LaPlante. I'm going with Eric LaPlante sitting at eight.
00:34:15
Sully Shaheed
I think he is still a dominant shooter from wherever he is. And again, even with being so short in stature, the man rarely gets blocked. And again, that trigger is bam. That ball is out, whips it, and it is in.
00:34:30
Sully Shaheed
So every time that Eric is on the court, he needs to be feared. And I think that if he were a volume more of a volume shooter, because he doesn't have to be, he could carry an entire team if he wanted to.
00:34:43
Sully Shaheed
So I'm going to go with one Eric LaPlante on this. Eric LaPlante. Give me Eric LaPlante.
00:34:49
Chilly
Eric LaPlante. I mean, I think that's good. i You know what? I think you have him a little low.
00:34:56
Sully Shaheed
Oh! I think I got him little low, huh?
00:34:59
Chilly
I think you have him little low.
00:35:01
Sully Shaheed
Okay. right. We're up for debate here. We're up for debate.
00:35:05
Chilly
think you him little
00:35:07
Sully Shaheed
let's ah Let's swing back to defense where my Texas bias continues. I'm going to go with my opinion. but better The best goalie in B this year was on a makeshift team that had some fun, but he was still doing his thing in B. Dropped down from A,
00:35:24
Sully Shaheed
That's KB. KB, a partner on the Texas podcast, still did his thing in B, and I think that he is a still solid defender, and he proved himself this year to take that makeshift team, make a little noise, but I still think he held his own, did his part in those cars.
00:35:42
Sully Shaheed
KB, give him to me at seven. Give him to me at seven.
00:35:48
Chilly
You can have him at seven.
00:35:49
Sully Shaheed
I am having him at seven.
00:35:51
Chilly
Listen.
00:35:51
Sully Shaheed
That's the homie, and he's still a beast.
00:35:53
Chilly
Listen. KB is the homie. um But the man was running from A. Running. Running.
00:36:03
Sully Shaheed
Listen, if I don't get to play with Carter and breeding and hey all those cats, I'm not going either. I'll take a step back too. I'm good.
00:36:13
Chilly
Again, I love the homie.
00:36:14
Sully Shaheed
I'm good.
00:36:14
Chilly
I love the homie, but damn. Seven? Seven?
00:36:20
Chilly
a
00:36:20
Sully Shaheed
Seven. Seven.
00:36:22
Sully Shaheed
KB, baby.
00:36:22
Chilly
Damn.
00:36:23
Chilly
i mean I mean, your list is just, at this point, it's disqualified. um
00:36:27
Sully Shaheed
First of all, this is, you are a co-host, remember that.
00:36:30
Chilly
yeah Your list is just...
00:36:36
Chilly
Listen, yeah you're not getting any better than me, all right? Start my own podcast.
00:36:39
Sully Shaheed
This is, this me.
00:36:41
Chilly
I got no kids.
00:36:41
Sully Shaheed
This is my show.
00:36:43
Chilly
I got no kids or girlfriend.
00:36:43
Sully Shaheed
This my show.
00:36:44
Chilly
Sad face. I can record episodes of all day. don't have the life.
00:36:48
Sully Shaheed
This is my show. This is my camera. This is my mic. I run it all.
00:36:56
Chilly
You know what happened to you is what happened to the real Skip Bayless. You'd be off the air without me.
00:37:01
Sully Shaheed
ah
00:37:02
Chilly
now Now, I ain't no Shannon Sharp. I ain't paying no OnlyFans model $100 million, dollars but you know that's ah de andho and a whole different podcast. Spend your money how you want to if you want to spend it on OnlyFans or prostitutes or whatever they're called.
00:37:16
Sully Shaheed
It's not even, ah it's not even allegedly either. That's like, yeah that's a thing.
00:37:21
Chilly
Yeah.
00:37:24
Sully Shaheed
Who you got at seven dog? Who you got at seven?
00:37:25
Chilly
At seven, i have one Ace Ventura himself, Mike Driscoll.
00:37:32
Sully Shaheed
ok Okay, okay. Driscoll's coming up. All right.
00:37:34
Chilly
I got Driscoll. Again, played goalie. Yep, there you go.
00:37:39
Sully Shaheed
Extended.
00:37:40
Sully Shaheed
little extension.
00:37:40
Chilly
Yep.
00:37:41
Chilly
You need to extend and then wave your scoop backwards. You need this.
00:37:44
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:37:45
Chilly
Yep, you got to wave it backwards.
00:37:47
Sully Shaheed
Yep, yep.
00:37:47
Sully Shaheed
Facts. Facts.
00:37:47
Chilly
Yep.
00:37:48
Chilly
Yeah, i got I got Driscoll at seven. I think Driscoll played well. ah You know, whenever Clint did his random things on defense, Driscoll held down the fort.
00:37:58
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:37:58
Chilly
I got Driscoll.
00:37:58
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:38:00
Chilly
I got Driscoll number seven. I think Driscoll played great. ah Did the best he could throughout even, you know, Unlimited. Again, also, I'm just going to tell you now, Unlimited plays no factor into my list.
00:38:11
Sully Shaheed
Okay, okay.
00:38:12
Chilly
Just letting you all know now that the challenge game doesn't factor in.
00:38:15
Sully Shaheed
All right, respect, like I said, I had him at 10, grouped together with Zack Jonner, respectable spot at seven, I get it. Who you got at seven on the shooters list?
00:38:28
Chilly
And number seven, you might you might say I have this individual too high.
00:38:30
Sully Shaheed
Yep, seven. Too high.
00:38:36
Chilly
Too high.
00:38:37
Sully Shaheed
Uh-oh, okay.
00:38:38
Chilly
I got one. ah got one brand-new Worley Ball Hall of Famer himself.
00:38:46
Chilly
One Joseph Tiffany.
00:38:49
Sully Shaheed
Just Joe clocking in at seven.
00:38:51
Chilly
Just show. Clocking in at seven. A lot of the games, again, i don't think Joe shot as well as what he normally shoots. I think he had an off year. i mean, maybe he felt bad because he gave everybody the fucking sickness he brought in with him.
00:39:06
Sully Shaheed
Yes, he did.
00:39:07
Chilly
Yeah, he did. um you know That'll be a great you know story to tell people 15 years from now. Hey, come here. There's this guy. He got us all fucking sick before the tournament started.
00:39:19
Chilly
That him over there. that ginger That gingery fuck over there, that guy.
00:39:25
Sully Shaheed
I shared the same sickness as a hall of famer.
00:39:25
Chilly
But, uh...
00:39:29
Sully Shaheed
I'm honored. I'm honored.
00:39:31
Chilly
Did you shoot like him too? Did you shoot bad as well?
00:39:35
Sully Shaheed
ah Yes.
00:39:38
Chilly
can No, I mean, I think he had one game where he absolutely went the fuck off against Atlanta from what I remember watching.
00:39:48
Chilly
It may have been their playoff game. Where he fucking destroyed everybody. But other than that, we didn't have those Joe Tiffany-esque performances that we're used to.
00:39:57
Sully Shaheed
Right. Right.
00:39:59
Chilly
He's got to fall down the list. I think he'll admit it himself that he had an off year. Joe Tiffany, my number seven.
00:40:09
Chilly
Floor is yours.
00:40:09
Sully Shaheed
Listen, listen, y'all about to get a surprise. And it might be a little biased, but I don't care. Just like my entire list is 100% biased.
00:40:21
Sully Shaheed
But remember, it's my opinion and I can say what the fuck I want. This seven is probably going to be unexpected. um It might be a little sneaky if you consider it.
00:40:34
Sully Shaheed
Because on my seventh spot is one Rafael Portita. Rafael has ascended as one of the best shooters in Whirly Ball.
00:40:47
Sully Shaheed
That sneaky bastard. If you want to say winning is a factor, all he does is win. All he does is drop buckets. Again, if not Eric LaPlante, probably him as the fastest shooter in Whirly Ball.
00:41:02
Sully Shaheed
Rafael needs some respect, and he's getting it from me right now. Seven, Rafael Porteira.
00:41:11
Chilly
It's a good pick. It's a good pick. I do i do like it. um you know um I'm not going to argue with it. That one I'm going to leave alone. that's I think that's a good pick.
00:41:22
Chilly
i think you got your so i think I think you got yourself we would call in this business a real Groot and Grindr right there.
00:41:22
Sully Shaheed
Man.
00:41:28
Chilly
Groot and Grindr, yeah.
00:41:28
Sully Shaheed
ah He's a real grunt grinder.
00:41:31
Chilly
I think you got yourself you got yourself a ball player right there.
00:41:32
Sully Shaheed
Like
00:41:35
Sully Shaheed
I said, signed jersey in my den right over there. Getting the frame for it before Christmas. It's going to go up on that wall over there, right in the middle. I got a spot reserved behind the couch for it.
Future of Whirly Ball & Listener Engagement
00:41:47
Sully Shaheed
Rafael Porteira, baby. Number seven. Number seven.
00:41:50
Chilly
Are your kids going to look at that jersey and be like, that's... Are your or the girls going to look at that and be like, that's what we need? I mean, they made their...
00:42:01
Sully Shaheed
One day, I hope my girls look up to Raphael.
00:42:07
Chilly
One day, maybe they could make the list. you know maybe we Or maybe they could put together better lists than you.
00:42:12
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen, they were out there practicing on Sunday. They're out there practicing.
00:42:15
Chilly
They did. they were there They were there. They were there with the old Uncle Ant on the old Court 2.
00:42:18
Sully Shaheed
Yep. Yep. Putting in that work. and my My goal is to still raise the youngest national champion. I need her in that car at 10. And I need her to get stuck on a D team where she gets carried and wins the wins the division.
00:42:33
Chilly
yeah
00:42:36
Sully Shaheed
She's just there, but she's on the team. 10 years old, I'm shooting for it. Youngest national champion ever. I'm shooting for it.
00:42:45
Chilly
there's a There's a funny joke I can make here. I'm not going to, but ah I'll tell you off air. um I'm to keep it real nice.
00:42:53
Sully Shaheed
It's a funny joke that
00:42:56
Chilly
I'm going to keep it nice here on the Mean Edition.
00:42:59
Sully Shaheed
Whoa, you're gonna keep it nice on the mean edition?
00:43:02
Chilly
For this individual, I am. Just know it has to do with they're just there.
00:43:08
Sully Shaheed
Just, the oh God.
00:43:13
Sully Shaheed
Listen, the family goal in the Shahid household is to have Aaliyah Shahid win a national championship before her daddy. So that's the goal.
00:43:24
Chilly
Well, mean, she's got good genes, you know. Dad's the ninth best goalie.
00:43:28
Sully Shaheed
I mean,
00:43:30
Sully Shaheed
If the goat says it it must be true.
00:43:34
Sully Shaheed
We're gonna slide over number six. Are we here
00:43:35
Chilly
i know about I was going say, i but if I was you and i and I had some kids to come home to, it that would be the first thing I told them I got home from the trip.
00:43:42
Chilly
It would be no I love you. be like, girls, listen, the goat called your daddy. The ninth best goalie.
00:43:52
Chilly
Put some respect on my name.
00:43:52
Sully Shaheed
Of all kinds, of all, it's a person with respect of my name.
00:43:56
Chilly
They could take you to show and tell.
00:43:59
Sully Shaheed
Oh yeah, don't don't talk about my career. no no no no no no no ah no no no, no, no, no. I need you to know that in this sport of whirly ball, nine.
00:44:12
Sully Shaheed
Listen, it's time for number eight. It's time to flip that nine upside down and go to six. Six on the defenders list. I have a name that appeared on the shooters list. Number six is one Joe Tiffany.
00:44:12
Chilly
no
00:44:25
Sully Shaheed
Now Joe Tiffany
00:44:28
Chilly
I got to defend.
00:44:28
Sully Shaheed
Played a lot of defense this year.
00:44:30
Chilly
That's so low.
00:44:31
Sully Shaheed
And he was nasty. Again, he's kind of in that genre category where you forget how good of a defender the man actually is.
00:44:34
Chilly
That's so low.
00:44:42
Sully Shaheed
I'm talking active, blocks, everything. Joe Tiffany can do it all. And he's showing he can do it all by appearing for a second time on this. It's higher a defender than an offensive player.
00:44:54
Sully Shaheed
Joe Tiffany, number six.
00:44:58
Chilly
Man, that that's that's disrespectful.
00:45:01
Sully Shaheed
What?
00:45:02
Chilly
That's disrespectful. You got that man too low on the defensive side.
00:45:05
Sully Shaheed
Oh, God.
00:45:07
Chilly
That's good.
00:45:07
Sully Shaheed
Oh, here we go. Here we go. Here we go.
00:45:09
Chilly
Come on That's too low.
00:45:10
Sully Shaheed
Come on.
00:45:12
Chilly
Well, for my number six, i got i have essentially his ah his counterpart within his center. His, you know, is is basically his running buddy.
00:45:28
Chilly
The James to his Carl. The Carl to his James.
00:45:31
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:45:32
Chilly
yeah I got one. Barrett Davis. Number six.
00:45:39
Sully Shaheed
Solid. Solid choice. Solid choice.
00:45:41
Chilly
So, a Barrett would probably normally be, Barrett normally plays a little bit more defense. Didn't necessarily have to this year. The man lived in the key.
00:45:49
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:45:50
Chilly
and um But still. Good goalie when he is back there. um I got one. Barrett Davis, number six.
00:45:58
Sully Shaheed
Good pick. Good pick. Good pick. Excellent. Excellent. Is he, is he a spoiler alert going to appear again on the shooter list?
00:46:09
Chilly
We'll have to see. Keep tuning Give us a like.
00:46:10
Sully Shaheed
We'll have to see.
00:46:13
Chilly
Give us a follow.
00:46:13
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, that's right. That's right. Make your predictions down below, even before you get to this next section, because we're about to enter the top five after we get through number six shooter. Put your predictions down below. Who is making each other's top five?
00:46:26
Sully Shaheed
And I would like to know, i would like to know your opinion on at least a top five. Don't break down a top 10. and There's a whole podcast that we're doing for that. Just throw it down in the comments for us.
00:46:37
Chilly
You can break down the top ten and be like, wow, fucking A was a headache, just like I did.
00:46:37
Sully Shaheed
I think it'd be great.
00:46:44
Sully Shaheed
Let's slide over to number six where I'm going to stop the family disrespect because as the honorary Ola, okay, as a as a member of your family, I'm putting...
00:46:51
Chilly
You are the...
00:46:55
Chilly
You are.
00:46:57
Sully Shaheed
My pseudo cousin at number six, Anthony Ola, is still a feared and respected shooter as he are he will continue to be.
00:47:08
Sully Shaheed
Now, statistically, I would probably say you shot better than him. But again, with the opening looks that he creates for you, you're like the you're like the five hitter that's hitting 300 because no one wants to pitch to the four hitter.
00:47:22
Chilly
Bro, I'll say it to this day. We are just the great value version, the off-brand version of James and Carl. we may We're not going to the we're not gonna we're not gonna get up to those great prices.
00:47:31
Sully Shaheed
Not GV.
00:47:35
Chilly
You know you ain't you ain't paying no $10.99 for me and Anthony. All right?
00:47:41
Sully Shaheed
there they their Their target brand?
00:47:43
Chilly
but But there is a...
00:47:43
Sully Shaheed
Their their market district?
00:47:45
Chilly
But there is a struggling family out there that's like, I'll take those two. And they'll take us home.
00:47:56
Sully Shaheed
I'll allow it. But again, Anthony, still feared, still a deadly shooter. Give me Anthony Ola. Number six. That's my guy. Give it
00:48:05
Chilly
So my number six, um I just want to know, how in the hell do I have your favorite player ranked higher than you?
00:48:18
Chilly
Yeah. I got Raph. Number six.
00:48:21
Sully Shaheed
Let's go!
00:48:23
Chilly
I
00:48:26
Sully Shaheed
Let's go.
00:48:30
Sully Shaheed
Let's go.
00:48:34
Sully Shaheed
pick. Good pick. Good pick. I mean, it's a tough list, man. It's a tough list.
00:48:40
Chilly
put him higher.
00:48:42
Sully Shaheed
i can't just, he didn't make the list last year. I didn't want him, I didn't want him to ascend all the way into like the top five, top six, year one, he makes the list, you know?
00:48:50
Chilly
Bro, my number one goalie didn't even make the top ten.
00:48:55
Chilly
I don't want to hear it.
00:48:55
Sully Shaheed
Well, people people can drop out. Like, just ascend to the top.
00:48:58
Chilly
He dropped pretty hard.
00:49:02
Sully Shaheed
Like, yeah.
00:49:03
Chilly
it's It's six, man. It's six.
00:49:07
Sully Shaheed
That's it. that's ah That's still a solid spot. A solid spot, man.
00:49:11
Chilly
It's still...
00:49:12
Sully Shaheed
Solid spot. Solid. Solid. No qualms. No arguments. Great pick. Great pick. Great pick. oh Yeah. I mean, what else can be said about Ralph?
00:49:23
Sully Shaheed
I mean, he's doing his thing. He always wins. It's just, pretty elementary at this point. So I'm with it. I get it. ah Let's slide back over to defenders.
00:49:36
Sully Shaheed
And who do you have at the number five spot?
00:49:40
Chilly
Number five, I have one.
00:49:42
Sully Shaheed
It's top five time, baby. It's top five time.
00:49:47
Chilly
have one. Mr. From Michigan, Zach Johnner, number five.
00:49:57
Chilly
Like I said, I don't think a lot of people are aware of how good of a defender he really is.
00:50:04
Sully Shaheed
First thing I said.
00:50:07
Chilly
Again, because when he first started playing, he was playing defense.
00:50:11
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:50:12
Chilly
So, again, man, Zach is ah is an elite defender. um I truly think he bailed out Ben and saved Ben a lot this year defensively for their A-team.
00:50:23
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:50:26
Chilly
Again, fast. He's got quick scoop. Great. Obviously one of the better drivers in the game. And Zach is elite, man. I got Zach number five.
00:50:37
Chilly
i guess that.
00:50:38
Sully Shaheed
You know, what one of these days we're going to have the the player cards, you know, that'll flash on the screen and like just swoop in, you know, as we're announcing them. Like one of these days, we're going to get the production value so high that we're going to get to that point.
00:50:54
Sully Shaheed
That's a goal of mine. That's a goal of mine. um Number five for me is the, man, you disrespected by putting too low. Another one you put too low is John Webber.
00:50:54
Chilly
Yeah.
00:51:06
Sully Shaheed
John Weber slotting in as a top five defender my eyes. Again, nice run in the playoffs. ah He was, you know, a champion last year but or the year before.
00:51:17
Sully Shaheed
um he prides himself on defense. Very active. Obviously, he had a little bit more of advantage because he was driving his own cars. So he looked a lot better as well this year. So I'm going to say John Weber cracks the top five on my list.
00:51:32
Sully Shaheed
John Weber. John Weber.
00:51:34
Chilly
You got Weber ahead of Joe.
00:51:34
Sully Shaheed
not
00:51:35
Chilly
You got John Weber ahead of Joe.
00:51:36
Sully Shaheed
yeah
00:51:38
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, yeah, I do.
00:51:38
Chilly
Holy shit.
00:51:40
Sully Shaheed
I do.
00:51:40
Chilly
Dude, Joe might fly into Cleveland tomorrow and pay you a visit.
00:51:44
Sully Shaheed
Good thing I don't live in Cleveland anymore. So he can come to Cleveland all he wants. I ain't there.
00:51:52
Chilly
by Joe, I got you. I'll tell you where he
00:51:56
Sully Shaheed
right.
00:51:58
Chilly
I got you. ah I'll drive you right to
00:52:00
Sully Shaheed
a
00:52:05
Chilly
I'll bring him to your door I don't even know if you'd call it a front door, right? Because it's not even...
00:52:10
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it is a front door, yeah. You gotta to go up the little...
00:52:13
Chilly
Is it a front door? is it like technically...
00:52:14
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:52:16
Chilly
Technically, it's still... But you're on the backside, so it's the backside of the door, technically.
00:52:18
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. Yeah, but it's my front door.
00:52:20
Chilly
government
00:52:21
Sully Shaheed
It's my front door.
00:52:22
Chilly
It is your... Technically, it is your front door. Wow, I can't believe that. Goddamn.
00:52:30
Sully Shaheed
Listen, at least Joe...
00:52:31
Chilly
It's ain't no disrespect to Weber because weber is Weber by far is probably one of the most prideful people in Worley Ball. I mean, I don't think anybody takes it to the to the level emotionally as as Weber does.
00:52:45
Chilly
So, again, to his credit,
00:52:48
Sully Shaheed
Austin might have something to say about that.
00:52:52
Chilly
I don't know, man. Weber goes pretty far. I ain't saying that that you know that that your cousin don't, but
00:52:58
Sully Shaheed
I know. I know. I'm just putting it i'm just i'm just happy I'm just happy that Joe Tiffany will have something yell at me about differently this year when I see him outside of him yelling at me about Chris Flores being my favorite player Worley Ball.
00:53:00
Chilly
I said, man, Weber, Yeah, man.
00:53:15
Sully Shaheed
Oh.
00:53:16
Chilly
I mean, he he he just needs about this much of alcohol, and that's it. As soon as you go through those doors in Michigan.
00:53:21
Sully Shaheed
um
00:53:22
Chilly
Sully.
00:53:22
Sully Shaheed
Yep, he's...
00:53:22
Chilly
Sully. Sully. Hey, come here.
00:53:24
Sully Shaheed
What the... What the...
00:53:25
Chilly
What the fuck?
00:53:26
Sully Shaheed
You think I'm a worse defender than John Webber?
00:53:27
Chilly
Uh-huh.
00:53:29
Sully Shaheed
You think... I'm just gonna... Yep, it's... Yep, um I'm asking for it, aren't I?
00:53:33
Chilly
Yep.
00:53:34
Sully Shaheed
I'm asking for it.
00:53:35
Chilly
To say, sorry, Dad.
00:53:35
Sully Shaheed
Hmm. Hmm. Maybe I gotta to reorder this list real quick.
00:53:44
Sully Shaheed
Listen, top five shooters, top five scoring offensive players. I got to go with Shaq at number five, man. I got to go with Bear Davis.
00:53:56
Sully Shaheed
I got to go with Shaq.
00:53:58
Chilly
You got Shaq at five.
00:54:00
Sully Shaheed
I got Shaq at five.
00:54:02
Chilly
You got Shaq at five.
00:54:02
Sully Shaheed
I got Shaq at five. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, post play dominant this year, but primarily ah you said defense and fourth up. He's a deadly shooter from the outside. Normally this year, you didn't have to do it as much, but having said that he is still highest percentage probably in the game this year, you know, because of his dominance in the key.
00:54:24
Sully Shaheed
So yeah, albeit like I said this year a little closer to the hoop he still put ball in bucket at a high frequency gotta go at Barrett Davis number five number five
00:54:37
Chilly
Number five, i got, you know, as you dubbed, the the quickest trigger literally in the West. Because, I mean, technically he's in the West.
00:54:50
Sully Shaheed
you right
00:54:51
Chilly
One Eric LaPlante. Number five.
00:54:58
Sully Shaheed
Listen, I gotta i got got a bone to pick with you right now, man. Because we're entering the top five.
00:55:06
Sully Shaheed
We've entered the top five.
00:55:06
Chilly
Yeah.
00:55:08
Chilly
We've entered the top five.
00:55:10
Sully Shaheed
i got I got a problem with this offensive side because it it's pretty it's pretty bunched up as we get up there. And I'm noticing that you left Doug off the list.
00:55:22
Chilly
we can't We'll get there when we need to.
00:55:25
Sully Shaheed
Unless, unless he has cracked all the way into the top five. Oh, we go. Oh, that's. Oh, my God. Okay, we got problems. We got problems. We got problems. We got problems.
00:55:36
Sully Shaheed
We got problems. But listen, we'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. Let's slide over to number four on the offensive side of the ball or defensive side of the ball. Again, you disrespected him earlier, but I'm going to put some respect on his name.
00:55:49
Sully Shaheed
I'm leaving his brother off it. They don't come as a tandem. All the way at four. The slim Reaper Jared Dobies.
00:55:58
Chilly
Oh, my God.
00:55:58
Sully Shaheed
All the way at four.
00:55:58
Chilly
Dude, dude, Brad.
00:55:59
Sully Shaheed
All the way at four.
00:56:01
Chilly
Oh, my God. the next time The next time you and Brad practice, this man is going to be out for blood. He's going to be out for blood.
00:56:07
Sully Shaheed
That's fine.
00:56:10
Chilly
I mean, he was he was already mad about the team.
00:56:10
Sully Shaheed
That's fine. Joe Tiffany's already going to kill me.
00:56:14
Chilly
Oh, I mean, listen, Slim, Slim at four, right? That's where we're at.
00:56:19
Sully Shaheed
All the way.
00:56:19
Chilly
is
00:56:20
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, four.
00:56:21
Chilly
Yeah.
00:56:21
Sully Shaheed
All way up.
00:56:21
Chilly
again Again, Slim. Slim is great. He saved us a shit ton of points. No qualms about it. ah The reason why I may have not.
00:56:29
Sully Shaheed
The penalties, huh? Penalties. Penalties.
00:56:32
Chilly
So penalties penalties, and he's a little bit more on the offensive side, developing his offensive game, which we do enjoy. ah Great shot, working on his post-up game. So that's why he's a little bit further down for me.
00:56:46
Chilly
um But again, damn. To do Brad?
00:56:50
Sully Shaheed
All the way at four.
00:56:51
Sully Shaheed
All the way at four. And no disrespect to Brad.
00:56:52
Chilly
Dude, I can't.
00:56:53
Chilly
I can't.
00:56:54
Sully Shaheed
There's no disrespect to Brad.
00:56:55
Sully Shaheed
There's no disrespect.
00:56:55
Chilly
you can't just say You can't just say with all due respect and then get away with saying whatever you want.
00:57:00
Chilly
That's not how that works.
00:57:01
Sully Shaheed
I didn't say with all due respect, he sucks. I didn't say that because he doesn't. He's a he's a quality defender. But I mean, if you want somebody to strike fear in the hearts of people going up the chute, it's Jarrett. I got to go with Jarrett, man.
00:57:17
Sully Shaheed
All the way up at four. Top five. Mid top five. Top five. Top five. Who you got at four?
00:57:25
Chilly
f four I got the man himself that petitioned to be higher on my list. they They couldn't stand where I had him before.
00:57:38
Chilly
He's in the top four now. Not even top five. He's in top four. i don't think I have one pink hat himself.
00:57:42
Sully Shaheed
ah Four.
00:57:49
Chilly
Kyle Phelps.
00:57:52
Sully Shaheed
great pick, that's great pick, that's great pick.
00:57:54
Sully Shaheed
Now I'm curious, I'm really curious to see the three people that you have better than Kyle Phillips. Like this is, woo!
00:57:54
Chilly
here
00:58:04
Chilly
i don't i think I think the three people I had of i have head of head ahead of them, there're I don't think there's an argument to be made yet.
00:58:04
Sully Shaheed
yeah who
00:58:13
Sully Shaheed
Woo! Woo! Man, well, Kyle slotting at four.
00:58:16
Chilly
we we'll probably we'll probably We'll probably fight about who I have at number three, but we'll fight about it.
00:58:20
Sully Shaheed
Oh, yeah, we'll fight about it. We'll fight about it, because we'll fight about We'll fight about it.
00:58:24
Chilly
We'll fight about it.
00:58:24
Sully Shaheed
Well, let's slide back to offense. And speaking of fighting, I think you took one performance into consideration when you dropped him so far down the list. But as a whole, I took unlimited into consideration.
00:58:39
Sully Shaheed
I took the entire seating and everything into consideration. Brad Peters has cracked the top four on the list. Brad Peters is still yes disgusting when it comes to that shot.
00:58:54
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I get it. With the elbow in.
00:58:58
Sully Shaheed
Struggling a little bit. saw him in the A tournament. I also saw in Unlimited, okay?
00:58:58
Chilly
Did you see them in the A tournament?
00:59:05
Sully Shaheed
That man was...
00:59:05
Chilly
It doesn't count.
00:59:06
Chilly
It's a challenge game.
00:59:07
Sully Shaheed
You don't count.
00:59:08
Sully Shaheed
You don't count.
00:59:08
Chilly
It's a challenge game.
00:59:10
Chilly
It's a challenge game.
00:59:10
Sully Shaheed
You don't count. Well, he stepped up to the challenge. And he stepped up to the challenge for three straight years.
00:59:14
Chilly
So if i play a if i play a fuck it if i if I play a fucking pickup game and I shoot a fucking 10 for 10 out there, am I cracking the top 10? No. No, I'm fucking up.
00:59:22
Sully Shaheed
Did you get a trophy? Did you get a trophy? Did you get a trophy?
00:59:25
Chilly
i
00:59:25
Sully Shaheed
Did you get recognized?
00:59:25
Chilly
I'll get a fucking... I'll do the Cleveland way. I'll get a fucking napkin.
00:59:33
Chilly
i'll get i'll write it I'll write my name on a goddamn napkin.
00:59:38
Sully Shaheed
And I would respect you for it. However, it's not going to ascend you into the list.
00:59:45
Sully Shaheed
ah Screw you. Brad Peters, number four. Deal with it.
00:59:52
Sully Shaheed
Now, here's where.
00:59:54
Sully Shaheed
Who do you?
00:59:56
Chilly
Who do I got at number four?
00:59:56
Sully Shaheed
Let's slide back. ah Slide back to defenders. i No, no, no. Yeah, you're right. Offensive player. but number
01:00:03
Chilly
do I got at number four?
01:00:04
Sully Shaheed
It ain't Doug.
01:00:06
Chilly
no, ain't Doug.
01:00:06
Sully Shaheed
I can't, you got Doug off the list. I got Doug off the list.
01:00:08
Chilly
It ain't Doug. Listen, Doug, I love Doug. I love Doug. Doug has beaten us enough.
01:00:14
Sully Shaheed
Hmm.
01:00:17
Chilly
It's great. And he'll continue to rain shots on us, I'm sure. at number four, i have one
01:00:28
Chilly
Sam Kim.
01:00:33
Sully Shaheed
Hall of Fame resume, still a sharp shooter.
01:00:35
Chilly
Hall of Fame. Yep.
01:00:37
Sully Shaheed
Good pick, good pick, excellent pick.
01:00:38
Chilly
yeah i got I got Sam at number four. I thought Sam shot pretty well. um Again, man, when you when you have ah you know some of the other people on your team that can put ball in bucket, it's nice to get a little you know little release there. so
01:00:52
Sully Shaheed
A little breather, little breather sometimes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:54
Chilly
Yeah, so so i got so I got Sam at number four. i think Sam had a great tournament. Obviously, they had a great run through the playoffs. um I would have loved to see, you know, ah because if you do go back to that A final game too, like Sam was kind of open from the three-point line.
01:01:09
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hm.
01:01:12
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hm.
01:01:13
Chilly
And, you know, somebody selfishly did pass the ball, but
01:01:18
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hm.
01:01:19
Chilly
ah got I got Sam number four. F-F-F-F.
01:01:25
Sully Shaheed
Foe.
01:01:26
Sully Shaheed
Foe. right, top three time. Here we go. And I'm very curious about who you have above the man that I have at number three. The petitioner, the lobbyer, the man with the pink hat, Kyle Phillips slides in at my number three.
01:01:26
Chilly
well
01:01:42
Sully Shaheed
Dominant goalie, still a deadly shooter as the fourth up, but defensively, man, active as anybody on the court. No matter, you know, he's not one of those six foot guys either. He's still a tall he's still a shorter guy and can still dominate on the defensive end.
01:02:00
Sully Shaheed
So Kyle Phillips made his case, proved his case, and he slotted in at my number three spot. as the top three defender in Worley Ball. Now, here's where I think a lot of these names are going to start repeating themselves, but I'm okay with that.
01:02:16
Sully Shaheed
So, Cal Phillips, three, who you got?
01:02:21
Chilly
At number three, i got
01:02:28
Chilly
just Joe.
01:02:31
Chilly
Joe Tiffany.
01:02:34
Chilly
Number three.
01:02:46
Sully Shaheed
I can't, all the way at three.
01:02:48
Chilly
At three. Hell yeah, three.
01:02:52
Sully Shaheed
Over Kyle Phillips?
01:02:54
Chilly
i have
01:02:54
Sully Shaheed
I think you,
01:02:55
Chilly
I got Joe over Kyle, bro.
01:02:58
Sully Shaheed
yeah, Joe's going to fight me.
01:02:59
Chilly
i think, I think, I think, um again, man, I think Kyle played great.
01:03:00
Sully Shaheed
Yep, Joe's going fight me. That's fine. That's fine.
01:03:06
Chilly
I think Kyle drove great. I think playing at home helps Joe um my list. I still, I think ever so slightly.
01:03:12
Sully Shaheed
Ever so slightly.
01:03:15
Chilly
i still take Joe. is still one of the best goalies in the game today. i do got Joe over Kyle. Again, kyle Kyle can start petitioning now if he wants.
01:03:28
Sully Shaheed
yeah
01:03:28
Chilly
I do believe ah do believe he's going to be on the roast.
01:03:32
Chilly
So if Kyle wants to go on that roast and say he's a better goalie than Joe Tiffany, I would need to remind Kyle ah the game where Joe was an offensive powerhouse was against him.
01:03:44
Chilly
So just in case we need to start getting out tape. um But I do got Joe at number three.
01:03:54
Chilly
Hashtag fuck off.
01:03:55
Sully Shaheed
Solid. Solid. Solid. Solid. Hey, hey, compelling case. Compelling case. Compelling case. Let's slide over to offense where you've heard his name at number four, where he's sliding in at number three for me.
01:04:09
Sully Shaheed
Hall of Famer, Sam Kim. Top three shooter. Still to this day. To this day. To this day. Still deadly from the angles. Deadly from the corners. Can rip it from anywhere.
01:04:21
Sully Shaheed
Sam Kim. Still as dominant as ever after all these years. Sam Kim. Number three for me. Who you got?
01:04:32
Chilly
At number three, i got so I can't call him Shaq because we know who the real Shaquille O'Neal is. and In our era, i think um I think he's kind of like a Jokic, right? peace He's big.
01:04:47
Chilly
he He does some crazy shit. He's got crazy passes, crazy shots. He's got the game. You build around him.
01:04:54
Sully Shaheed
Okay. okay
01:04:57
Chilly
want Baird Davis, number three.
01:04:59
Sully Shaheed
There it is. There it is. So are we talking like Orlando Magic Shaq? Or are we talking like Lakers Shaq?
01:05:07
Chilly
Well, Mike Wall is Laker Shaq.
01:05:10
Sully Shaheed
Oh, that's, yeah.
01:05:12
Chilly
In terms of just a dominant run, like where he may not make the Mount Rushmore, but in terms of like pure dominance for a short period of time that we got to see him, Mike Wall and Shaq is literally it.
01:05:12
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:05:22
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
01:05:30
Sully Shaheed
yeah that's Yeah, that's that's a good comparison. Yeah, I'm with you. Oh, hey, no debate. No qualms. You're right.
01:05:38
Chilly
So, yeah, i think I think, so again here, because I was going to, like, I didn't want to disrespect Barrett and call him, like, Dwight Howard, right?
01:05:38
Sully Shaheed
You're right.
01:05:46
Chilly
Although Dwight Howard, NBA champion.
01:05:48
Sully Shaheed
Yeah?
01:05:50
Chilly
But I felt like that was disrespectful. So I feel like Jokic, I feel like him being Jokic, because Jokic does some crazy shit in the lane. Barrett does some crazy shit.
01:05:59
Sully Shaheed
does.
01:06:01
Sully Shaheed
Hey,
01:06:01
Chilly
Now, I will petition here that Barrett offensively extends on a lot of dunks, all right, from what I've watched so far.
01:06:09
Chilly
Alright, so, but again here.
01:06:10
Sully Shaheed
and listen, if driscoll if Driscoll can make the list, i and he's the walking extension, we can we can let we can let Baby Shaq get away with a few extensions.
01:06:21
Sully Shaheed
It's fine.
01:06:21
Chilly
Yeah.
Controversial Players & Anecdotes
01:06:22
Chilly
Yeah, which is fine, because nobody's ever going to call it offensively.
01:06:22
Sully Shaheed
It's fine.
01:06:25
Chilly
We know that. Because there's a lot of people there's a lot of people who wouldn't be allowed to shoot the ball if you could.
01:06:26
Sully Shaheed
Correct.
01:06:30
Chilly
And again, at this... Shoots the jumper, man. Shoots the jumper. Your cousin.
01:06:41
Sully Shaheed
I can't help how family is, man. What do you want me to do?
01:06:46
Sully Shaheed
They ain't calling it. Keep on shooting baby. That's what I'm talking about. Top two. Top two, chill. Who is your number two defensive player in Whirly Ball right now?
01:06:59
Chilly
Number two, um
01:07:01
Sully Shaheed
Number two, two, two, two. Woo! Woo!
01:07:04
Chilly
I think he is the Ric Flair of our sport. ah think he's dead I think he's the dirtiest player in the game in the nicest way possible.
01:07:08
Sully Shaheed
Woo!
01:07:12
Sully Shaheed
Woo
01:07:16
Chilly
This man would sell his firstborn son, who does play whirlyball, to win at all costs. he doesn't care if He doesn't care if there's blood.
01:07:23
Sully Shaheed
all um
01:07:27
Chilly
He would sell Caleb in a heartbeat. To win AR Unlimited. Although the man wasn't good enough to make his own Unlimited team. they probably couldn't you problem they problem they probably could't They probably could have used them and lost by less.
01:07:36
Sully Shaheed
That is still probably one of the most controversial things we had to experience at Nationals, by the way.
01:07:46
Chilly
They still would have lost. But again, the dirtiest player in the game. The Hall of Famer himself. Clint Fisher. Coming in at number two.
01:07:59
Chilly
The man will live in your car. The man will rape your fingers. I didn't say rake. I said rape.
01:08:05
Sully Shaheed
Ha ha ha ha
01:08:09
Chilly
The man created the rules but doesn't follow them. If knives were legal, he would use one. Clint Fisher.
01:08:20
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen, you've you've literally said everything I would have said and more. So the the the the verdict is in. Number two on my list as well is Clint Fisher.
01:08:32
Sully Shaheed
ah Again, there's nothing more to be said about the Hall of Fame resume of one Clint Fisher, the organizer of the sport, great ambassador for the game. But when you're on that court with him, don't.
01:08:46
Chilly
ah he doesn't He doesn't give two shits about your livelihood. It's win at all costs. Like I said, he would literally he would literally sell Caleb for a win.
01:08:52
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:08:58
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:08:59
Sully Shaheed
I agree.
01:08:59
Chilly
Literally.
01:09:00
Chilly
If there was some if there was a dark, ghostly figure that resembled a Grim Reaper at a crossroads where it was, if you give me Caleb, you can win unlimited in A to the left, or you keep your son and lose and go to the right, he's going left.
01:09:01
Sully Shaheed
i
01:09:17
Sully Shaheed
I can't disagree with that.
01:09:19
Chilly
He's going left.
01:09:19
Sully Shaheed
Can't disagree with that. Hey, listen, I remember one of my proudest moments in my Whirly Ball career was when they came up to practice with us, like, two years ago, I do believe. um Maybe it's it wasn't last year. Yeah, it was two years ago.
01:09:33
Sully Shaheed
And I was picking against him. and i and And I don't know what he was doing, but I finally pinned his ass in the key. And I was, give me the goddamn ball. And someone got it to me.
01:09:43
Sully Shaheed
And I was, like, too late. Stared right into his soul and dunked on him. And he's, like, you had me I was, like, I will never. have a more proud moment against Clint Fisher ever in my life.
01:09:55
Chilly
Yeah.
01:09:56
Sully Shaheed
Dunking on Clint Fisher that day was the the magnum opus of my practice career without question. So I know that the player like him will never let anything like that happen again.
01:10:09
Sully Shaheed
But just to know that one time I did it, I'm proud of myself. So dunking on the number two goalie, number two defender, I should say, in all-worldly ball, one time.
01:10:20
Sully Shaheed
One time. Remembering the Little Giants? You know, all it takes one time. How many times I beat them down that hill? All it takes one time. So number two, Little Giants, man.
01:10:32
Chilly
Quoted the little giants, the little giants.
01:10:35
Sully Shaheed
One of my favorite movies, dude. Like Little Giants is so ah ahead of its time.
01:10:40
Chilly
That movie was hilarious.
01:10:41
Sully Shaheed
I wonder how old that girl is that played, what, the Fridge, right? Was that her nickname?
01:10:47
Chilly
You talking about the dude's niece, the the guy's daughter. I forgot what her actual name was.
01:10:50
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
01:10:52
Chilly
don't
01:10:54
Sully Shaheed
wonder what she's doing right now. She's probably like 50.
01:10:58
Sully Shaheed
Has to be, right?
01:11:00
Chilly
Probably. Probably.
01:11:03
Sully Shaheed
40s or fifty s I gotta to look that up later. That's neither here nor there. Sorry. go If you haven't watched Little Giants, we can't be friends. um Number
Top Player Debates & Comparisons
01:11:11
Sully Shaheed
two. Offensive side of the ball.
01:11:15
Sully Shaheed
I got the return. The return of the GOAT.
01:11:24
Sully Shaheed
The return of the GOAT.
01:11:25
Chilly
oh no.
01:11:26
Chilly
Oh, no.
01:11:26
Sully Shaheed
The greatest of all time.
01:11:27
Chilly
You put him at two? You put him at two?
01:11:29
Sully Shaheed
The greatest, the greatest, the greatest, the greatest, the greatest of all time.
01:11:29
Chilly
Oh, my God! You put him at two? Oh, my God.
01:11:40
Sully Shaheed
He came back for a heel run. You're the one that argues that winning matters. That's all that matters. It's got to be taken into consideration. Who won A?
01:11:52
Sully Shaheed
The return of the GOAT.
01:11:55
Chilly
You put him at two.
01:11:56
Sully Shaheed
James Gill is still, is still the best.
01:11:58
Chilly
oh my goodness. Oh, my.
01:12:05
Sully Shaheed
One of the best shooters, offensive players,
01:12:09
Chilly
You put him at two.
01:12:11
Sully Shaheed
Ever. Ever. Number two.
01:12:15
Chilly
oh my goodness.
01:12:15
Sully Shaheed
Second best offensive player in the game.
01:12:18
Chilly
Oh, my God.
01:12:18
Sully Shaheed
The GOAT. James Gill.
01:12:21
Sully Shaheed
James Gill.
01:12:21
Chilly
Oh, my.
01:12:22
Chilly
You put him at number two.
01:12:25
Sully Shaheed
Two.
01:12:27
Chilly
he
01:12:27
Sully Shaheed
Number two.
01:12:28
Chilly
He beat my number two, and I assume he beat your number one when we crossed that fucking bridge.
01:12:29
Sully Shaheed
Number two. You're right. You're absolutely right.
01:12:37
Chilly
I got one Tim Austin at number two. Again, Timmy was great, but you know who he fucking lost to in the A-final?
01:12:50
Sully Shaheed
Hey, listen.
01:12:52
Chilly
But we'll get there.
01:12:52
Sully Shaheed
Wait a second.
01:12:53
Chilly
Let me finish complimenting Timmy. Timmy played great.
01:12:55
Sully Shaheed
okay
01:12:56
Chilly
He shot great.
01:12:56
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
01:12:57
Chilly
The man is a force. He's a factor out there. he is When he's on the court, he's fucking open. ah So I don't want to deter our argument from how great Timmy shot this year because he he shot great.
01:13:13
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
01:13:13
Chilly
Again, i will feed into that young man's ego. He played great. He shot great. We'll cross the argument bridge when we both get to number one.
01:13:26
Chilly
But I can't believe the man gave you the biggest compliment his son at dinner. And you put him at two.
01:13:37
Chilly
oh my. James, if you're listening, I apologize. I apologize. James, if you somehow listen to this, just know I'm sorry for the disrespect here.
01:13:46
Sully Shaheed
does listen to the podcast, obviously.
01:13:49
Chilly
i'm so I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Like, if you haven't fallen asleep or taken a nap by now, and my loud voice woke you up here. oh my goodness. it this i Just...
01:14:01
Sully Shaheed
Number two.
01:14:02
Chilly
Oh, it's just so...
01:14:03
Sully Shaheed
Number two.
01:14:03
Chilly
We're going to share the number one goalie, so we can get back to this stern argument here in a second. You want to just...
01:14:09
Sully Shaheed
Let's just...
01:14:09
Chilly
You want to go... You want to plop number one? You want
01:14:13
Sully Shaheed
We all know who the best freaking defender is in Whirly Ball. Let's just that's just get past this right now so we can go back to why Timmy is the best shooter, the best offensive player fucking Whirly Ball right now.
01:14:22
Chilly
so
01:14:25
Sully Shaheed
Let's just say it. It's Jordan fucking Huffman.
01:14:27
Chilly
and half
01:14:28
Sully Shaheed
Let's get out the way.
01:14:28
Chilly
Agreed.
01:14:30
Sully Shaheed
Let's just...
01:14:31
Chilly
Agreed.
01:14:33
Sully Shaheed
No one driving wise, defender wise, no one's on Jordan's level.
01:14:33
Chilly
George... but
01:14:38
Sully Shaheed
Sorry. It's just, and he and he just happened to be playing in Seattle this year as well to solidify his case all over again. a champ, unlimited champ.
01:14:49
Sully Shaheed
It doesn't matter. He's the best. Let's keep it pushing.
01:14:54
Chilly
Yes, Jordan played great. Although, man, the the my so I almost put him at number two because, you know, he kicked he kicked us out the fucking ref booth because it was our fault.
01:15:01
Sully Shaheed
Oh.
01:15:05
Sully Shaheed
you
01:15:07
Chilly
They fucking lost. I'm going on a tangent. I don't got to do with the list. Did we allow the wide open layup to Clint Fisher? No. Did we allow Sam to get into the fucking key for the game-win layup?
01:15:19
Chilly
No. That was your fucking bum ass, even though I have you as the best goalie. What the fuck happened? And it booted us out?
01:15:30
Chilly
With that being said, Jordan played great. He was a great goalie. He was an amazing floor general out there. Kept his team in check.
01:15:39
Sully Shaheed
Oh my
01:15:43
Chilly
Jordan played great. he was deb I think he was the best goalie kind of hands down this year.
01:15:45
Sully Shaheed
god. That was awesome.
01:15:48
Chilly
He played amazing. He played great. The way he kept his team, he kept his team composed. Again, I think you and I even knew going into it. I don't even think we needed to talk here.
01:15:59
Chilly
i think number one was Jordan.
01:16:00
Sully Shaheed
Nah. Nah. It
01:16:02
Chilly
ah Best defender on the best team in All right, now let's let's get ready to fight.
01:16:05
Sully Shaheed
was Jordan. was Jordan.
01:16:08
Chilly
um Because my number one,
01:16:12
Sully Shaheed
a
01:16:13
Chilly
he returns back. The Michael Jordan, the GOAT, James Gill.
01:16:25
Chilly
Who whooped, who beat your number one in the championship game? Okay.
01:16:38
Chilly
James, James is better.
01:16:39
Sully Shaheed
Listen, all all I'm saying
01:16:42
Sully Shaheed
Now, now, what now, now,
01:16:42
Chilly
James is better right now.
01:16:49
Sully Shaheed
ah when win win when arguably but arguably now
01:16:53
Sully Shaheed
now that is all of fame clo
01:16:53
Chilly
We could, we could,
01:16:55
Sully Shaheed
his hall of fame cloud gar on no no
01:16:55
Chilly
we it truthfully We could truthfully have a skip enchanted argument right here because I'm rolling with Michael.
01:17:02
Chilly
You're rolling with fucking bum-ass LeBron. All right?
01:17:06
Sully Shaheed
now Now, listen, championship clout aside, all right? Hall Fame clout aside, Hall of Fame career aside, Skip, all right? I said on our podcast before that whoever played with Rafael was going to elevate their level of play, okay? And that's exactly what happened.
01:17:21
Sully Shaheed
I say I put him at two because he played second fiddle to another person that I put low on the list. I'd say, I'd say now, Skip, now if it wasn't for Rafael, all right, giving him those open looks, giving where he's at, okay, he wouldn't have any of the success this year that he had because he's been faltering, okay, he's been faltering over the past couple years now, Skip.
01:17:33
Chilly
you
01:17:44
Sully Shaheed
Now, now, now, now, you put him on a team, okay, with Rafael and all of a sudden he just turns to the hall of famer that we know he is now now if was for Rafael all right I don't think James Gill is the a champ all right this man we're talking about a guy that that that didn't even make the unlimited team okay has made in the past three years all right now now now it's to say now Timmy now Timmy now now now Timmy OK, he made the unlimited team.
01:18:14
Sully Shaheed
He was the unlimited team. OK, Skip. Now, now, now, now, if it wasn't for Timmy, who is constantly being triple teamed out there. OK, from five whales, six whales, eight whales. Hell, it don't matter where he's shooting at.
01:18:29
Sully Shaheed
Man steps out the bus. He is open and that ball can go in the hole. Now, now, you can't say that about a lot of people now, Skip. You can't say that a lot about people now, Skip. Now, Timmy, you can say that about, okay?
01:18:43
Sully Shaheed
Timmy, Timmy, okay, single-handedly has won divisions by himself, okay? Now, Skip, Timmy is the reason why why do ah Michigan had to switch their unlimited roster now, okay, to to to play around Timmy.
01:18:57
Chilly
First of all, Timmy couldn't let me!
01:18:57
Sully Shaheed
Now, Seattle, switch, switch, Seattle, Seattle, switch there, Seattle,
01:19:02
Chilly
couldn't fucking let me by himself!
01:19:04
Sully Shaheed
yeahtle Seattle switched the unlimited team and left James Gill off of it. Okay, Michigan changed their entire team and forms it around Timmy. Now, now, now, you can say that back in the day.
01:19:16
Sully Shaheed
You can't say that tuesday today. We talk about 2025 now, right, Skip?
01:19:18
Chilly
Listen, if we are like a true...
01:19:20
Sully Shaheed
We talk about 2025 now, right, Skip?
01:19:22
Chilly
if we are like a true Combative sports talk show radio This is the point in the argument where I bring up stuff Related to the discussion that actually has No relation ah Shannon you want to tell me how many A titles Does Timmy have
01:19:37
Sully Shaheed
ah now Now, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. You know the answer to that rhetorical question there, Skip.
01:19:41
Chilly
How many Good How many unlimited titles Does Timmy have
01:19:49
Sully Shaheed
ah Again, another rhetorical question.
01:19:50
Chilly
again Against against each other against each other in the finals <unk> each other in the finals, what is Timmy's record against James?
01:19:52
Sully Shaheed
Another rhetorical question there.
01:20:02
Sully Shaheed
Doesn't have any victors there, Skip.
01:20:05
Chilly
technically act Technically, he does have one. He's 2-1.
01:20:08
Sully Shaheed
Championship, championship, titles, titles, titles.
01:20:09
Chilly
James, yeah, yeah if we're going with championship games, and we're going just, you know, both games.
01:20:11
Sully Shaheed
Doesn't have any titles. Doesn't have any titles there, Skip.
01:20:14
Chilly
So technically, Timmy's 0-1.
01:20:16
Sully Shaheed
Doesn't have any titles there, Skip.
01:20:17
Chilly
Just like just like you know when Tom Brady was beating up on the old Patrick Mahomes here. you know So, again, James, number one.
01:20:28
Chilly
Now, I will give you to your credit. The Seattle Unlimited team without James has not lost.
01:20:34
Sully Shaheed
Hmm?
01:20:35
Sully Shaheed
Hmm?
01:20:35
Chilly
They have not lost.
01:20:35
Chilly
So that is it that is a point U.
01:20:36
Sully Shaheed
Hmm?
01:20:39
Chilly
But, again, James is a GOAT, man. James is GOAT.
01:20:44
Sully Shaheed
See, there you go again.
01:20:46
Sully Shaheed
Living in the past. Living in the past.
01:20:46
Chilly
GOAT.
01:20:49
Chilly
go
01:20:49
Sully Shaheed
You don't want to make room for the new era. you don't want to make room. for the new error you want to make room
01:20:53
Chilly
i hope I hope at next year's banquet, James asks you to leave the table.
01:21:01
Chilly
it I hope he asks you to leave table. i hope I hope he tells Owen to stay far away.
01:21:11
Chilly
If Owen goes.
01:21:13
Sully Shaheed
the respect. Hey, listen, Owen made friends. Remember he's Sean's boy. Now our boy, our way tie, right?
01:21:19
Chilly
They are friends. they are They are friends.
01:21:22
Sully Shaheed
And he going to Cedar point. I mean like their boys now. So Owen has to show up, but I'm just saying that we want to talk about dominant offensive players.
01:21:33
Chilly
and we want You want to talk about Timmy winning divisions? Winning divisions?
01:21:35
Sully Shaheed
Right.
01:21:36
Chilly
He won DNC.
01:21:39
Sully Shaheed
Alone alone.
01:21:41
Chilly
He didn't win B alone.
01:21:41
Sully Shaheed
No.
01:21:42
Chilly
Couldn't win B alone.
01:21:43
Sully Shaheed
Well,
Reflections & Community Engagement
01:21:44
Sully Shaheed
Well,
01:21:44
Chilly
now now Now, Shannon, Shannon, you want to tell me who kept him who kept that man away from B?
01:21:51
Sully Shaheed
there was a, there was a, there was a pretty good team there that year playing at home.
01:21:58
Chilly
Even in the Dallas year, his first year B, he only got third, Shannon. He only got third.
01:22:03
Sully Shaheed
Only, only, only, only, only.
01:22:04
Chilly
Only. He only got third.
01:22:06
Sully Shaheed
I mean, we, we give out award. We give out awards now for the best player on the best team now, Skip.
01:22:11
Chilly
Listen, listen, listen.
01:22:12
Sully Shaheed
So don't,
01:22:13
Chilly
We don't even bring...
01:22:13
Sully Shaheed
Don't, don't, don't discredit third now.
01:22:15
Chilly
Listen, we're out we're an hour and 23 into this. We do not even, like, that man doesn't even know the list exists, okay? That's how far away he is from it.
01:22:27
Sully Shaheed
That's, that's true too. That's true too.
01:22:30
Chilly
If we had three lists, he may be on the third one.
01:22:36
Sully Shaheed
Well, you got to let us know in the comments below. do you want Do you want anything excluding A? Do you want Skip back to debate?
01:22:46
Chilly
Skip! Skip!
01:22:48
Sully Shaheed
yeah now Now, Skip, I don't care, man. this this This list right here, definitive, proven track record of success.
01:22:59
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
01:23:00
Sully Shaheed
now Now, before we go, Skip, all right.
01:23:00
Chilly
Yeah.
01:23:02
Chilly
Now listen, and listen, only you and I can have the debate show because, you know, we're the only interracial show. White and black.
01:23:13
Chilly
Listen, nobody ever watched the debate show with two white guys.
01:23:19
Sully Shaheed
You bring up a fair point.
01:23:19
Chilly
Am I wrong?
01:23:20
Chilly
Am I wrong?
01:23:20
Sully Shaheed
You're not wrong.
01:23:21
Chilly
I'm not wrong.
01:23:21
Sully Shaheed
You're not wrong. You're not wrong. You're not wrong.
01:23:25
Sully Shaheed
So you're saying that you're saying that we need to cultural diversity.
01:23:25
Chilly
and ah but and when window
01:23:28
Chilly
Nope.
01:23:28
Sully Shaheed
I'm not leaving.
01:23:30
Chilly
And when the pseudo black guy left, the show tanked. So and I guess kind of rides on you.
01:23:37
Sully Shaheed
I'm not fucking leaving.
01:23:39
Chilly
I'm not leaving.
01:23:40
Sully Shaheed
I'm not fucking leaving. not fucking leaving. not fucking leaving
01:23:43
Chilly
Also, I mean... But, I mean, also, too, I mean, again, put it in the comments. I think there's a couple other topics up here for debate. We could debate some other top five. We could do, like, top five.
01:23:54
Chilly
We could do top five duos. We could do top five floaters or cherry pickers.
01:23:57
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:23:59
Chilly
We could do, know, the cherry picking list would be fun.
01:24:00
Sully Shaheed
Chain picking list would be fun. Chain picking list would be fun.
01:24:05
Chilly
that That would be fun.
01:24:05
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:24:06
Chilly
Again, we could do the top five dirtiest players in the game. I don't care. I can i can get you a top five.
01:24:10
Sully Shaheed
Cliff Fisher, number one, moving on.
01:24:12
Chilly
We can get the top five extenders in the game. I think I may make that list.
01:24:15
Sully Shaheed
Driscoll, number one, moving on. Driscoll, number one, moving on.
01:24:18
Chilly
Oh, I don't know, fam. I think I i think i i can be in contention for that one.
01:24:23
Sully Shaheed
You do be staking claims, though.
01:24:25
Chilly
I think I can be in contention for that one. But, ah you know, we got that. Again, we got duos. We we could do duos. We could do that. Let us know in the comments.
01:24:37
Chilly
What you craving for?
01:24:37
Sully Shaheed
Yes, absolutely. Hey, a couple, couple of honorable mentions before we leave.
01:24:39
Chilly
What you...
01:24:41
Sully Shaheed
Um, the Atlanta boys almost made my list, Batania and Beckett. Beckett shot has been incredible and he almost cracked the top 10. Batania always been a consistent, absolutely fantastic shooter.
01:24:57
Sully Shaheed
Um, honorable mention without question, uh, defensively, um, ah We had Ben Hanna, who was up there as a great defender.
01:25:08
Sully Shaheed
Same with Frank. They both did their their nice little run in the tournament. They're both great defenders. Almost made the list. So a couple honorable mentions there. um But yeah, I mean, there's obviously there's a ton of B guys that, you know, are waiting in the wings to get up.
01:25:24
Sully Shaheed
And play A next year, um you know, they're they're on the cusp, of course, but it takes a little bit to establish, you know, establish yourself as a great, quote unquote, great player.
01:25:36
Sully Shaheed
I mean, there's Hall of Famers we left off the list, you know. Billy O, sharpshooter still, didn't make it. k Christie, same thing, Hall of Famer, sharpshooter. I would consider her, but with like good a group of guys like this, and it's it's tough.
01:25:52
Sully Shaheed
I mean, it's tough. So, you know, there's there's a lot of respect in the Whirly Ball community, and I think it's only getting better. And I think the competition is getting a ton better.
01:26:03
Sully Shaheed
And I think a lot of people are going to make some noise in any division this year.
01:26:08
Sully Shaheed
So players could... make the list and not be on it the previous year. Some players could be number one on the list and not make it entirely the next year. so
01:26:08
Chilly
Yeah, I think...
01:26:21
Sully Shaheed
there's a lot that goes on, man.
01:26:21
Chilly
Oh, poor...
01:26:22
Sully Shaheed
There's lot that goes on.
01:26:24
Chilly
I think my honorable mentions offensively at 10, again, honestly, between... This could have been 9 and 10. Again, um again doug i think snowy I think Snowy went a little under the radar.
01:26:43
Chilly
i think Snowy shot pretty well. So I had Snowy, and then I did have um ah Sean from Chicago, who I thought played really well.
01:26:48
Sully Shaheed
Hmm.
01:26:54
Chilly
i wasn't considering Bill because he did have to leave. ah He had his daughter's graduation. So again, when you when you kind of miss a day, like that kind of hurts you. um i think all of them have all of them could have been way better truthfully than Anthony at number 10.
01:27:13
Chilly
Um, but Anthony kind of gets it on the fear factor. Um, and ah obviously again, Doug, ah Doug as well, you know, Doug, I'm sure Doug will come out against us next time we played strap 30 and be like, bitch.
01:27:25
Chilly
So,
01:27:26
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
01:27:28
Chilly
so, but again here, ah so those were my honorable mentions. Uh, again, ah The Atlanta guys, although they came alive in the tournament, just not enough through seeding games to kind of get there. um You know, they they they they had a slow start.
01:27:48
Chilly
They were slow and struggling. But, again, they they played a great tournament. So um that's kind of where I was at on the off offensive end. Defensive end, man, it was tough.
01:27:58
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:27:59
Chilly
Defensively, man, that that was tough.
01:27:59
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:28:00
Chilly
um You're looking at guys like Ben Bird, Ben Heisel, um again, even Snowy potentially there on the defense event. ah So again, honorable mentions.
01:28:15
Sully Shaheed
Well, my hope is that next year, some of the Texas boys that were completely off the list, make a return, stop having kids come back to the game, please. That would be awesome. Um,
01:28:26
Chilly
You can disrespect them too, like you did James.
01:28:30
Sully Shaheed
I would never disrespect Carter.
01:28:31
Chilly
Guy gave you the biggest compliment your life, and you put him at number two.
01:28:38
Chilly
we had a good We had a good show for about an hour and 15 minutes, and then it just went off the fucking rails.
01:28:47
Chilly
It went off the rails, bro.
01:28:47
Sully Shaheed
Who? You know what? Let's let the freaking Worldly Ball community decide. Who is the best offensive player in the game? You put below. is it James or is it freaking Timmy?
01:28:59
Sully Shaheed
You let me know. You let us know. And let's have a friendly debate. But I think that'll do it for the night, man. I had a lot of fun. um Pay attention to the Whirly Ball community with the roast coming out soon.
01:29:13
Sully Shaheed
um Part two from the Texas boys. You're going to look out for Chicago, of course. And obviously, you know, the ambassador himself, Steve, Noah, and Mark Money Mills. I'm sure they'll be back on the air soon.
01:29:23
Sully Shaheed
And keep this community alive, man. Good luck at the invites to all those that are going. ah Have a blast in Minnesota. And then we'll probably, since you're going and get to experience it, we'll probably have a pod about that. You let us know about your experiences there.
01:29:37
Sully Shaheed
And I think that'll do it, man. I think we'll see you all next time for a Chill. I'm your boy, Sully. This has been the World Pro East Edition. We'll see next time. Peace!
01:29:48
Chilly
Peace.