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Sully Shaheed: 2025 Nationals has concluded and we are finally back on the What in the World podcast East edition to go over everything that happened at 2025 Nationals in beautiful Seattle, Washington. I am joined tonight, of course, by Chillman. We're going to cover various topics from...
Sully Shaheed: Team winners, rosters, the reffing situation, the schedule situation, everything will be covered as best we can. And of course, we have some ideas to replace a certain tournament with a tournament idea of our own.
Sully Shaheed: Stay tuned. It's What in the World, East Edition. Let's get it
Sully Shaheed: Hey, welcome in to What in the World, East Edition. I, of course, am your host, Sully Ali Shahid, joined by my main man, my partner in crime, the chill man, William Aaron Ola. What is going on, my friend? Welcome back.
Chilly: matt It's good to be back. I'm ready to bitch and complain like normal. um We are on the mean edition. um it wouldn't be without us being Without us just complaining, it wouldn't be right. so i'm I'm glad to be back. ah I don't think we're going to curse out a lot of people.
Chilly: um Some of y'all kids might get cursed out. We'll kind of dive into that a little bit further. um but yeah man I'm ready to I'm ready 2025.
Chilly: I thought it was a fun year. I mean, before we really start complaining, but, you know, let's get ready to dive on in.
Sully Shaheed: Hey, listen, man, there's going to be positive things that come out of the podcast, okay? We're not all negative.
Chilly: couple.
Sully Shaheed: I think there's like a negative connotation in the community that we are just just angry people. And and we're not. we're We're actually some of the sweetest people in the community, to be honest.
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, to a point, like, we're really nice, and then, like, some dumb shit happens.
Chilly: All right. Like, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: That we may or may not have to comment on.
Chilly: Yeah. I mean, like, listen, we can be nice and mean. i think Jordan, I think Jordan is a prime example of that, you know, losing that a game and then kicking out the reps. Like it was our fault.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, we'll get to the tournament recap here shortly, chill. We will get there.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: But.
Chilly: Again, he's again, he's a sweetheart, but Dick,
Sully Shaheed: the oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jordan is a Jordan is an absolute sweetheart. But yeah, dick at the same time.
Chilly: Yeah, until they until they let Sam Kim walk it in for the game-winning layup.
Sully Shaheed: Well, well.
Chilly: Our fault.
Sully Shaheed: Well, we'll ah get there. oh Don't you worry about that.
Chilly: yeah
Sully Shaheed: Don't you worry about that. But, you know, like I said, this is the East edition of the What in the World podcast. Of course, the sister bastard child program of What in the World by our friends in Seattle.
Sully Shaheed: If you haven't checked out, there are two, count them, two podcasts since Nationals.
Chilly: Yeah, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: ah They had the chef, Luke, on for their second show. And then, of course, their first one was recapping what happened in 2025. So I think that if you want a more in-depth,
Sully Shaheed: breakdown of everything that happened in the tournament, I would tune in to them. If you want to hear our recap of it, of course, stay tuned to, you know, what in the world East edition, but just make sure to check out what in the world, um the OGs as they like to call themselves, the OGs.
Chilly: the the nice The nice edition, as we call it.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah. The nice edition with the ones with the hearts and the flowers.
Chilly: They're so... I mean, I listen to both of those. though They are so incredibly nice, and they treat their guests with like a lot of class. When we start getting guests, I don't know how it's going to go, but
Sully Shaheed: Oh yeah.
Sully Shaheed: well Well, Chef Luke has volunteered to be on the show, so anticipate Chef Luke coming on. Kyle Phillips has volunteered as well, along with Michael Langenfeld. So he will be a guest one day on the the East Edition.
Sully Shaheed: so Oh, yeah.
Chilly: Oh, man, I'm pretty, I'm some, that's good, man. We got a list.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, we got we got some people that want to partake in you know the the East Edition, which is pretty nice, man.
Chilly: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: Just remember, it's the keeping it real edition. Don't bring that nice shit over here.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, you got to keep it a buck.
Chilly: Mm-hmm.
Sully Shaheed: You know what I'm saying? I already put Luke on blast because, ah you know, he he was asked to name off his fantasy roster of, like, people he would play with. And he left me off it. And I'm like, listen, I'm the one that made you.
Sully Shaheed: I'm the one that brought you here. Okay? You wouldn't be Chef Luke without Sully Ali Shahid. All right? You'd just be Luke. And that's it. Remember where you came from, motherfucker.
Sully Shaheed: Remember that.
Chilly: you may You made them, huh?
Sully Shaheed: Anywho.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, man. i mean I made the moniker.
Chilly: Oh, you're like...
Sully Shaheed: I made the moniker. I'm not saying, I think, hey, listen, listen. Sometimes when you get a moniker chill, that instills confidence in a player.
Chilly: ah I've had one my whole life.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: That's what I'm saying. So like when you get we get blessed with a nickname, you know i'm saying? It's like, damn, now I got expectations. Now got to live up to him.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: So it's like, you know, he's got two banners now. You know, he won the he won the D banner without the moniker. And then he got the moniker, kind of got humbled the next year and then came back strong and won a banner the following year.
Sully Shaheed: Like that's it's hard work, man.
Chilly: Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think John Hanson should take some notes.
Chilly: Motherfuckers.
Sully Shaheed: Listen, did he where did where did he get the Johnny Buckets moniker from?
Chilly: Motherfucker. Motherfucker said I'm drowning in a goddamn pool. Fuck off. I swim.
Chilly: Motherfucker.
Sully Shaheed: Was this at an invite? Is that what happened?
Chilly: This was at an, I believe it was at a, at an invite. Yeah. Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Okay. Okay.
Chilly: oh
Sully Shaheed: Well, did did i did I give him that nickname?
Chilly: oh
Chilly: Who cares? Who cares who gave third place that nickname?
Sully Shaheed: Hey, listen, at certain, you're right.
Chilly: You really out here talking about third place?
Sully Shaheed: I mean, hey, listen, he's making an impact on the community, okay? And speaking of making an impact on the community, what did you think of post-Nationals Texas Roast?
Sully Shaheed: how did you How'd you like that one?
Chilly: It was hilarious. I'll give him some credit there. He may, you know, he may not be cut out for this whirly ball stuff, but podcasting, he should probably try.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, i would I would not pay actual American dollars to listen to Mr. Buckets every day. But if he wants to be in them streets, I think he's got a nice nice career path in front of him.
Sully Shaheed: Him and KB, they're both absolutely wonderful behind the microphone.
Chilly: only yeah. Yeah. Well, KB can actually play whirly ball, so he can stay. You know, he's got a couple banners, so, like, or a a banner.
Chilly: So KB could stay.
Chilly: But...
Sully Shaheed: I listen, I will play Wurley Ball with John Hanson any day of the week. Okay.
Chilly: so So you're coming in third?
Sully Shaheed: Any day.
Chilly: I thought you wanted to win.
Sully Shaheed: I came in like fifth last year, chill. So um third place would have been pretty nice.
Chilly: know he might You to go up two spots? There.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, man. Move up couple spots. Claim that third third best player on the third place team.
Chilly: There.
Sully Shaheed: I'm aiming for the Johnny Buckets Award next next year, chill, in Michigan.
Chilly: that Is that your goal? Is that your goal?
Sully Shaheed: but I set my standards low. So when I exceed them, I'm just, um I'm that much more happy about it.
Chilly: Should we put out odds for the Johnny Buckets Award? Wouldn't need like a top five for odds.
Sully Shaheed: Listen, well we well, we would need rosters beforehand, but like that would.
Chilly: Oh, we can kind of guess.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Chilly: or itgainst Or it gets people in some to go back down to see. Okay.
Sully Shaheed: For an award?
Sully Shaheed: Like, ah, I'm not cut out for this B thing. let me just go ahead and just drop back down.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Just so I can claim third place, third best player.
Chilly: Hey, it might be worth it.
Sully Shaheed: It might be worth it. It might be worth it. So, ah yeah, man, the roast was entertaining. I really enjoyed it. You know, there was there was some more Luke bashing on a yeah on that one.
Chilly: God.
Sully Shaheed: So that was fun.
Chilly: God, man. He really hates Luke.
Sully Shaheed: I think a lot of people secretly hate Luke, except me. I love Luke.
Chilly: I don't. I never played him.
Sully Shaheed: He's good guy.
Chilly: I haven't got to play him yet. think I played him at an invite. But in a national setting, I haven't got to play them yet, so...
Sully Shaheed: I played him, obviously, this year. ah and Luke is an asshole, by the way, because like his normal is like we were playing him a couple times and he's and he tried to shoot over me.
Sully Shaheed: And I'm about to send his shit back to fucking Minnesota. And he just gets this little little homo shot, you know, up to the freaking ceiling over me. And he's staring at me, smiling the entire time as he's shooting it.
Sully Shaheed: So i'm just like, yeah, at least, you know, at least, you know.
Chilly: you got You gotta learn how to get out the car, how to block it.
Sully Shaheed: Well, the one time i I guess I got out the car, I got called for an extension in game one. So I stayed in the car the rest of the by a certain ref, which we'll talk about in a little bit.
Chilly: yeah.
Sully Shaheed: We'll get there. We'll get there.
Chilly: oh yeah
Sully Shaheed: Anyway, um let's let's jump into a little recap, man. First of all, let's let's let's go to where it began. um You know, how was your travels in? How was the accommodations? How was how was everything leading up to the Whirly Ball?
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, everything was cool. ah That was probably like one of the smoothest plane rides I've ever been on, truthfully. So travel was good. ah Took that whatever train thing, you know little the system there, so got to avoid all that highway nonsense on Wednesday.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: So yeah, i didn't have yeah that was that looked awful as we were going past it.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: so ah No, man, trip was good. Hotel was good. i had no complaints about the hotel thought everything you know was good. so I had no complaints about the you know those types of items. so All around, good trip.
Sully Shaheed: yeah
Chilly: man I can't really complain from a traveling standpoint.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, same. um You know, my plane rides were really nice, real smooth. All the pickups, drop offs were cool. No delays or anything. So that was cool. ah Finally got to go see the Space Needle with Jarrett and Big Jim.
Sully Shaheed: So that was a fun adventure. Got to check that off the Seattle list. So Space Needle was awesome. um Everything I got to, you know, experience within the city was great, except that fucking traffic. Holy mother of God.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Like, I mean, is is there a city that we can visit that doesn't reek of bad traffic minus us? Like, getting around in Cleveland is so easy.
Chilly: i don't i don't I don't feel like...
Sully Shaheed: But then...
Chilly: Have we really hit bad traffic in Texas? They do like 90 miles an hour there.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, Texas is another good one, yeah. You can fly in Texas.
Chilly: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Texas is aight.
Sully Shaheed: ah Novi is fine, too.
Chilly: Yeah, yeah. Novi is cool too.
Sully Shaheed: Novi is easy money, yeah.
Chilly: Yeah, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: yeah That's fair. So hotel is great. Traffic and sucks. But other than that, you know, everybody seemed to, you know, have their travel accommodations, you know, ah correct.
Sully Shaheed: Except, ah you know, certain people that decided to come in a day later and miss a chunk of games and, you know, whatever. And then, you know, sandwich our schedule together.
Sully Shaheed: That was fun. Yeah.
Chilly: You talking about yo teammate? Sounds like talking about yo teammate.
Sully Shaheed: I don't know if I'm talking about my teammate. Am I talking about my teammate? I could be talking about my teammate. Because, I mean, Chili, you saw the games. You saw the footage, okay? We played three games without freaking Rick.
Sully Shaheed: One all three, and, like, two of them were in dominating fashion. I mean, by, like, 25, 26 points. And all of a sudden... This man steps on the court and every game we played was a 1.2 point game.
Sully Shaheed: Every game. Weird.
Chilly: It sounds like you guys you guys need to put the ball in the hole more.
Sully Shaheed: Weird. Or, Chili, wait, hear me out. Hear me out.
Chilly: you
Sully Shaheed: A replacement of a certain teammate gives us the opportunity to put the ball in the hole more.
Chilly: uh i'm just so
Sully Shaheed: Oh, my gosh. Well, I guess we can get into the I guess we can get into the whirly ball aspect of it. um where do Where do you want to start? You want to start up top, which is really down low and just get unlimited discussions out of the way.
Chilly: well do we want to talk do we want to cover like the center and how the tournament ran and then we can kind of get into yeah to to that you want
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I'm cool with that. Yeah, we all know that we all know that Seattle is a tiny lunchbox of a center and.
Chilly: yeah I think an actual lunchbox is bigger.
Sully Shaheed: and
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, literally the actual lunchbox is bigger than that damn center.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: However, um the, your, their next door business neighbor was gracious enough to grant more parking spots. So that was cool. um A very nice accommodation.
Sully Shaheed: um So that was helpful ah inside the center. Yeah. You know what? I'm just going to freaking say it. It was too many motherfuckers in there. Ain't no goddamn space already.
Sully Shaheed: And anybody that brought y'all little bratty ass kids, all right, and fucking clogged it up even more, pretending it was a goddamn playground, y'all all can fuck off.
Chilly: Okay.
Sully Shaheed: Okay? I understand. They want to see mommy and daddy play fucking whirly ball. I completely understand. There is a live stream for that. All right, you can put them on the big screen TV and have play in their own little fucking living rooms, okay?
Sully Shaheed: But to bring them all in there, I mean, every single person that had a freaking kid decided to show up at the exact same time.
Chilly: but yeah
Sully Shaheed: It ain't enough room for us. And everybody was like, ah, bring the kids, bring the kids, bring the kids. Like, what? Come on, man. Come on. What are we doing?
Sully Shaheed: What are we doing? but who What were we thinking? Someone tell me, tell what were we thinking?
Chilly: Well, not only that, you also had like the older players visiting as well, and then they brought their kids.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah?
Chilly: yeah o
Sully Shaheed: Listen, legends of the game, Mike Wall, b Brian Crosby, like those guys are always welcome to come up and visit the Whirly Ball, okay?
Chilly: pieces you Get a pass. Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: However, Cy, what are you doing here? Remember me? Yeah, I remember. No, I don't actually.
Chilly: I remember him when he was supposed to play on our C team and then he bailed and then he showed up.
Sully Shaheed: That's what I remember about Cy.
Chilly: Yeah, he was a piece of shit. yeah
Sully Shaheed: That's what I remember. Yeah, yeah.
Chilly: Yeah, remember he was supposed play?
Sully Shaheed: yeah
Chilly: Yeah, but the year we got screwed?
Sully Shaheed: yeah
Chilly: Yeah, he was supposed to play on our C team. He said, oh, I couldn't make it. And then that first day was literally there playing pickup games. Fuck, dude, you could go rot in hell.
Sully Shaheed: Huh.
Chilly: Yeah, huh?
Sully Shaheed: That's why i vaguely remembered him.
Chilly: yeah Yeah. Yeah, so if you vaguely burn to remember, like, why do I hate this fucking guy? That's why.
Sully Shaheed: Huh. So he's one that fucked us out of a C-banner that year. Essentially
Chilly: Potentially, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: my ass. We all know what happened that year, Chili.
Chilly: We do, we do. we've We've kicked this dead horse enough, man. We've kicked it enough.
Sully Shaheed: No, no, no. He is laying over there, right, in a pile of his own fucking shit and flies.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: And I'm going to keep on kicking that motherfucker, man.
Chilly: any
Sully Shaheed: That experience in Seattle was ass.
Chilly: It was bad for everybody. 2014 was just... It was terrible.
Sully Shaheed: But fast forward to 2025, and I think the tournament was ran very well.
Chilly: was great. Yeah. ah
Sully Shaheed: However, why are we always an hour ahead?
Chilly: They're...
Sully Shaheed: Every day. Not 20 minutes.
Chilly: They're...
Sully Shaheed: Not 20 minutes. A whole ass hour. So you already can't park. So it's like...
Chilly: I mean...
Sully Shaheed: Like, everybody get down to the center. It's better run ahead, of course. Like, you you want to run ahead.
Chilly: Right, right. I mean, give, know, obviously kudos to Jay and Noah for, I mean, the tournament ran great as a whole. I have no complaints there.
Chilly: The hour ahead or behind didn't really affect me because I was there every day as the center opened. So it didn't really affect me.
Sully Shaheed: Nerd.
Chilly: Hey, man, I got... I got games and then I got teams to coach. All right.
Sully Shaheed: Nerd.
Chilly: All right. You out there trying to coach Gary?
Sully Shaheed: Fucking nerd. No, I'm not out there. No, no.
Chilly: Yeah. Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Hard pass.
Chilly: I think James and I deserve a trophy for that.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, we'll get to it when we go by divisions, but I mean, they play it well. they they They came together.
Chilly: They did. It's hard to win two.
Sully Shaheed: they They came together.
Chilly: It's hard to run. it's It's hard to win with a two-man offense.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, Timmy won like three times with a one-man offense, so is it that hard?
Chilly: he He had. Yeah, because he actually had people setting him screens.
Sully Shaheed: He won D by himself. He won C by himself. He won fucking.
Chilly: Oh. Well, what? I don't remember. You didn't say B. That's weird. I wonder who kept him out of that.
Sully Shaheed: I did skip B.
Chilly: Hmm.
Sully Shaheed: I did skip that. However.
Chilly: Yeah, yeah. Couldn't win that. Couldn't win that by himself, could he? Big shot.
Sully Shaheed: Missed the big shot.
Chilly: Mr. Big shot.
Sully Shaheed: Hey,
Chilly: Couldn't even get to the championship game and be
Sully Shaheed: man. B was a tough year. was a tough year. You guys, you know, home field advantage. A lot of tough C teams, especially the Seattle team that, you know, placed play second I mean, that that seat that B team has a current A champion on it now.
Chilly: It does. It does.
Sully Shaheed: It does.
Chilly: It does. The rest of his team wasn't allowed to play A, but he was.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, don't know, man. You can put anybody with Rafael and you'll win.
Chilly: I mean, that's that's basically true at this point.
Sully Shaheed: You know? You can put anybody with Rafael.
Chilly: I think he should be a captain next year.
Sully Shaheed: Rafael should be?
Chilly: he should be a Seattle captain. i don't know which one of the – yeah.
Sully Shaheed: oh
Chilly: I think –
Sully Shaheed: i don't I don't get into Seattle politics.
Chilly: Yeah, I think he should be one of their captains. I think Gil should be in like the player pool.
Sully Shaheed: Imagine you got the first pick and you're just like, hmm, hmm, hmm.
Chilly: e
Sully Shaheed: What do we do here?
Chilly: e
Sully Shaheed: yes, quite, hmm.
Chilly: I mean, as you did say on our other podcast, James was playing on Raph's team.
Sully Shaheed: Everybody looked at me funny. Sully's being facetious. No the fuck I wasn't. It's fucking Ralph's team. And he proved why.
Sully Shaheed: ah right he was the main he was the main cast member. And the rest y'all is just supporting actors. Okay. All supporting cast for Raphael's fucking show. All right.
Chilly: They were they they definitely yeah they werere definitely a unit.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, yeah, yeah. But before we get into the divisions, let's talk about, let's so you know what?
Chilly: ah
Sully Shaheed: What'd you think of the food? What'd think of the food?
Chilly: did It's center food. i like i don't It was okay. It's just food. I'd rather pay less and get my own food, but like for what it was, it was cool. i I ain't going to the fool, but
Sully Shaheed: i I admittedly appreciate everything Seattle did. Because they catered to the vegetarians and vegans. There was always a vegan option.
Sully Shaheed: And it was greatly appreciated the first year that that was accomplished. And I am ecstatic through the moon about that. Not fucking George offering to me salads.
Sully Shaheed: You Oh, we could have got you a salad. Bitch! I eat more than fucking salads. You see how big I am? You think this is all fueled by salad? But Seattle had that hooked up. So kudos on the food.
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, the food was good.
Sully Shaheed: Kudos on the food. I always appreciate
Chilly: I really had no issues with the food. Food was cool. I mean, a lot of options for the food, you know, that that they put out. So no complaints here. I don't like paying, but I mean, I'm not mad that I had to pay for the food. I guess is what I'm saying.
Chilly: It was good.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
Chilly: And kudos it kudos to them for giving out the options with people that obviously have the dietary restrictions or their improved eating habits.
Sully Shaheed: It's greatly ah appreciative and I am over the moon that you know somebody thought of ah little little old me and other individuals like me. Thank you very much.
Chilly: Yeah, so yeah, kudos to them. um Tournament as a whole, again. It was great. They did a great job. yeah Like the actual tournament itself, I had no problems with. the The cars were great. Courts were great.
Chilly: ah So all of that, you know, kudos to Seattle. Anybody that had a helping hand in that, again, you know, thank you. Much appreciated. um do we have Do we want to talk about a certain individual before we, you know, before we kind of move on?
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah, let's but let just rip the bandaid off.
Chilly: Yeah. you You want to? You want to start?
Sully Shaheed: You wanna to just rip the bandaid off?
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Let's just let's just rip the bandaid off.
Chilly: Yeah, yeah. i'll let you go.
Sully Shaheed: um
Chilly: I'll follow your lead, my lord.
Sully Shaheed: While I am appreciative of the time that a certain someone stayed in the ref stand, I know I don't wanna do it all day. I think breaking up the teams to have certain blocks to referee,
Sully Shaheed: It's beautiful, it worked out perfectly, don't have a problem with it. But this certain individual thought he was king shit and he is not, okay?
Sully Shaheed: So Bo was a fucking problem. If you get a spotter and he makes a call, honor that call. Work the board, bro.
Sully Shaheed: Let us make the calls. That did not happen a lot of the time. And I'm not particularly happy about it. And I know there was some score keeping mistakes throughout the tournament. There was some controversial calls or non calls throughout the tournament.
Sully Shaheed: And yeah, next time we want to get a catch all referee, make sure the referee is, what's that word? I'm looking for a chill. Good at referee.
Sully Shaheed: So um maybe next time we go to Seattle in a few years, Bo can stay his ass at home. Okay? We good with that?
Sully Shaheed: Are you good with that?
Chilly: i'd be i'd be I'd be very good with that.
Sully Shaheed: Okay. Okay. Okay.
Chilly: Yeah, again, like he said, very appreciative of the hours that he soaked up in the ref stand.
Chilly: However, like
Chilly: like he said, we have spotters. Spotters are there make calls. make calls Like he said, you honor those calls.
Chilly: um
Sully Shaheed: Period.
Chilly: just Just run the board, bro. And that way you can stay up to date on the score, the key, the 30. Spotter is there literally to spot and help you with the the key.
Chilly: um But again, just don't be so emotional in the ref stand.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, right, right. That's that's ah another, yeah. It'd be so damn emotional.
Chilly: I will also suggest that um when you get removed out of said ref stand, um you need to watch what you say and how you say it, um especially when your city's team loses.
Chilly: And you kind of need to watch how you say Now, again, i think he was fair, but what you say and how you say it could be taken – In a very bad way. Especially when there was four of us around it. And we all shot you the same look.
Chilly: Of like did he just fucking say that? I won't say what he said here. If you want to message me.
Sully Shaheed: I don't need to say it.
Chilly: yeah You want to message you want to message me on the side? And you know. I'll break it down there. But again. i think I'm just going to state. I think he was fair throughout the tournament. He called.
Chilly: I know he called calls on Seattle. He took points away from Seattle. I know in the game where Barrett's team lost to Sam and them, they had points, and then points got taken away because he didn't listen to his spotter.
Chilly: So there was that mass confusion. But I think ah I have no issues with Bo. It's just if Bo's there next time, just run the board, bro.
Chilly: Just run the board.
Sully Shaheed: Run the bro. Run the bro.
Chilly: Run the board, man.
Sully Shaheed: Hey, remember when we you and I used to work at Wurley Ball? And if we were on the schedule with either Mark Norris or Mark Ratcliffe, we knew they were in the stand. But we knew that they we weren't getting any tips like at all that day because they weren't good refs.
Chilly: Yep.
Chilly: Yep.
Sully Shaheed: They were plotting in the stand and just taking up the hours.
Chilly: Oh, yeah. It was terrible.
Sully Shaheed: That was Bo.
Chilly: Let's take up the hours.
Sully Shaheed: That's Bo. If you and I wanted to make money, if you and I wanted to make money, we needed to get into the fucking stand.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: And we're like, hey, listen, either you put me on the second court or you kick one of those marks out of the fucking stand. Because I know what I'm doing and I want to make some damn money today.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: So just like this situation, there's a lot of quality reps in Worley Ball.
Sully Shaheed: He may be the bottom tier of them. um I'll leave it at that. I'll leave it at that.
Chilly: Yeah. Again, man, again, kudos for sucking up the time and doing something that a lot of people at that center will absolutely refuse to do.
Chilly: um Just next time, just don't be emotional and run the board. Run the board.
Sully Shaheed: Hey, chill, got one more complaint.
Chilly: Okay, I'm here.
Sully Shaheed: I one more complaint, not about Bo, about whoever the hell, cuz remember, a lot of us were in a a closed space, a lot of hugging, fist bumps, handshakes.
Chilly: Okay.
Chilly: Oh, I know what you're going to talk about, I think.
Sully Shaheed: All of us got sick, all of us.
Chilly: that was That was Joe's fault, right? Essentially, are we going blame Joe Tiffany?
Sully Shaheed: No, it started with Joe, but I don't know if Joe's the one that passed it. However, if he had a sliver of illness left, well, if someone brought that shit in and then Anthony caught it, brought it back to the hotel.
Chilly: It's probably... It was probably one of his kids. It was probably one of his kids.
Chilly: Oh, no.
Sully Shaheed: I caught it.
Chilly: I caught it first.
Sully Shaheed: You caught it.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Sean caught it.
Chilly: Oh, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Jarrett caught it. We're all fucked. Jim caught it.
Chilly: I'm pretty sure a lot of people caught it.
Sully Shaheed: We're all fucked.
Chilly: I know Beckett wasn't feeling great. i like There was a lot of people there.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, Beckett was dead. Yeah.
Chilly: yeah yeah it was a Yeah, the first two days, like Thursday and Friday, I was i felt like dog shit on the court. I'm like, this is great
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I felt it. I finally caught it on the way home. I mean, you can listen back to like the commentary I did. I had no voice. And it wasn't because it screaming on the court. It's because I fucking caught whatever was going around.
Chilly: Yeah, i did like I did some light commentary. i want to say it was maybe Thursday. i i like i Maybe Thursday or Friday. I think it was Thursday.
Chilly: And like you could just hear my voice you can hear me just trying to... I'm struggling to breathe.
Chilly: But yeah, whoever whoever brought in the sickness, you can go to hell.
Chilly: Again, I don't know if that was Joe Tiffany. i love... Again, i love i love him
Sully Shaheed: Right, we love you, but you fucked us all up.
Chilly: But if you, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Because I brought it home.
Chilly: So. know
Sully Shaheed: I brought it home, and I got my girlfriend sick, and that was great. So I had to hear that for a week, and it was... Ugh, whatever.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Anyway, that's my last complaint.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: That's my last complaint.
Chilly: yeah Yeah. you know Mass virus outbreak at the center.
Sully Shaheed: Right? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: At least Michigan's a lot more wide open. So, like, I could stay the hell away from people.
Chilly: yeah right yeah let's recap
Sully Shaheed: Oh, man. ah So you ready to ready to recap the tournament a little bit?
Sully Shaheed: Let's start with the the the tournament that no one gives a shit about. Unlimited. um Seattle won.
Chilly: shocker seattle uh yeah you'll never get yeah you'll never guess what happened you know seattle sploder uh
Sully Shaheed: Is that it? We good?
Chilly: Took Ben Heisel to school. and we Nobody saw that coming. Now, to Michigan's credit, to their credit, they did play well in game two.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, the game two was exciting, I will admit.
Chilly: Game two? Game two, admittedly, was it was good. um Game one, not so much. Although, like, Michigan caught momentum, I'd say, in the second half of game one.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, mm-hmm.
Chilly: Because they I think they definitely, i don't know if you want to say they outplayed them, but they definitely outscored them, I think. But, uh, Yeah. you know yeah Unlimited. Cool.
Chilly: Way to go, Seattle. You are now like 50-0 at home.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, like I said, Baby Shaq took over, little Barrett. Baby Shaq did his thing.
Chilly: He's Dwight Howard.
Sully Shaheed: um
Chilly: He'd be Dwight Howard, right? He ain't Superman because that's still Wall at this point.
Sully Shaheed: ah Yeah, you're right, Mike Wall is the OG Shaq, you're right.
Chilly: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's like that last that last performance in Seattle where that was like 0-3 Shaq.
Sully Shaheed: You're right.
Chilly: Mike Wall, 2019.
Sully Shaheed: Legendary.
Chilly: Dominant. When you make...
Sully Shaheed: Probably one of the greatest Whirlyball performances I've ever witnessed in my life.
Chilly: Yeah. when when When Clint Fisher walks off the court questioning his literal life and he's looking at Christie, basically he basically had a tear in his eye. like He's like, what do we do?
Sully Shaheed: What do i do
Chilly: This isn't a fucking whirly ball out here.
Sully Shaheed: What do i do This isn't Whirlyball.
Chilly: What do we do?
Sully Shaheed: This isn't Whirlyball. Although,
Chilly: Help! Help me! Help!
Sully Shaheed: although,
Chilly: Me!
Sully Shaheed: all'll go
Chilly: They certainly could have used them.
Sully Shaheed: ah
Chilly: but
Sully Shaheed: Help me.
Chilly: Me! he
Sully Shaheed: yeah No, but the the controversial thing for me, even before that tournament started, was why Clint Fisher was left off that team.
Chilly: Maybe we need a Michigan representative talk about that.
Sully Shaheed: You know what? You're probably right. I'm going to.
Chilly: Timmy's not afraid. Timmy, get on the podcast. Yes. And don' don't give us the but give us the political answer of it was to a vote.
Sully Shaheed: You know what?
Chilly: Come on. so Give us the real answer.
Sully Shaheed: Ayo, man, as much as I love Timmy, don't want to talk to that motherfucker on a podcast. I'm good.
Chilly: No, you don't like him?
Sully Shaheed: Oh, no, I love him. I just, don't want to talk to him. There's a difference.
Chilly: I can talk to him. You can put him on mute.
Sully Shaheed: Okay. I'll go take a break.
Chilly: Yeah, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: No, I'm kidding. If Timmy wants to come on a podcast one day, by all means. But please, more than welcome.
Chilly: or or you know Or genre.
Sully Shaheed: More than welcome to.
Chilly: The genre wants to come on.
Sully Shaheed: Johnner would be ah great guest.
Chilly: pretty Pretty dope. he he would be che
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, Johnner would be a great guest.
Chilly: We might not be the podcast for him. He's so nice.
Sully Shaheed: um I think he would break out of that a little bit.
Chilly: Maybe.
Sully Shaheed: I think he would break out of it a little bit.
Chilly: don't know. <unk>s He's nice.
Sully Shaheed: Because I've seen, hey, listen, remember last year it in Chicago when that motherfucker got mad on the court during the unlimited games or A or something? think it was unlimited. That motherfucker was pissed and he went to work when he got pissed.
Sully Shaheed: So that's the genre that I need on the podcast.
Chilly: or Or when Jonner, know Jonner would get mad at, ah you know, old Billy Tigger playing against them.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah, that'd be a good time.
Chilly: That'd be that a good time.
Sully Shaheed: That'd be good time. Johnner, if you're out there, because I know you are, I know you listen to the podcast. Come on. Come on.
Chilly: Yeah. Again, i mean, Seattle still wins, but I think Clint would have been the move.
Sully Shaheed: Give us a date and time. Come on.
Chilly: Of course, it's all in hindsight. Clint definitely would have been the move, right?
Sully Shaheed: Hey, yeah. Of course, hindsight is 20-20, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, absolutely.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: um Anything else fun we need to say about Unlimited?
Chilly: No.
Sully Shaheed: No?
Chilly: No.
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: No.
Sully Shaheed: um Let's go down to the D division. Who was the team that claimed victory in D?
Chilly: right. So in D, we had the only stands. Alex Peck.
Sully Shaheed: Yes.
Chilly: Kyle Vaughn, James Reed, Grant Kramer, and Kelsey.
Chilly: Only Stan.
Sully Shaheed: It's good team.
Chilly: was a good team.
Sully Shaheed: because they were Because they were coached by Stan.
Chilly: Stan.
Sully Shaheed: I just kicked Stan.
Chilly: I just kicked Stan.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, what a great choice of a coach, first of all. And from the limited games that I saw and commentated, the tournament was overall super competitive. So I enjoyed watching those games.
Chilly: Yeah, man. D. Yeah, man. The D tournament was cool. I had, again, coaching the, uh, the other team in it, of course, but yeah, man, D was, D was exciting as it normally usually is.
Chilly: um
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, D always puts on a good tournament.
Chilly: I mean, I mean, ultimately, I think that team did have the best player in D, which certainly helps, uh, uh, again,
Sully Shaheed: so It's always fun.
Chilly: a believe it would have kyle man that guy knew how to drive the cars he's tall played both ends man so he definitely would get the uh the mvp for d so you know kudos kudos to that to that young man hope hopefully he travels um hopefully he gets that itch so but yeah uh again kudos
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, once once you win something, once you win something, that itch, you know, you gotta scratch that itch.
Chilly: yeah yeah ah You know, know, you know, you know like like Luke's got that itch, you know, the itch for John Hanson is probably non-existent. But.
Sully Shaheed: It's probably turned into a venereal disease at this point.
Chilly: Yeah, he probably needs to see the doctor for it for sure. um Yeah, but kudos to them again.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Chilly: I'm sorry for the Texas D team. I know they lost their best player. They unfortunately got stuck with Josh. Our apologies. Yeah. We're sorry.
Chilly: um
Sully Shaheed: We're sorry, we're
Chilly: We're so sorry. ah We're sorry. i mean, that was that was Snowy's choice. DTV, y'all blame it on Snowy. If you were unhappy about the selection, know I would have been. only.
Chilly: you know
Sully Shaheed: The Hirschman is is very fun to play with. Just, you know it's it's hard to be A, run two tournaments and B, be thrust into like a pseudo leadership role too. So it's gotta to be tough man.
Chilly: No, I mean, again, we're sorry.
Sully Shaheed: but
Sully Shaheed: But what about that makeshift Tri-City All-Stars team?
Chilly: That was coached by Gil and i
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, man.
Chilly: they
Sully Shaheed: Old young Owen Gill made himself some friends in Sean Morad and Ty.
Chilly: The old Sean Murad. and th yeah yeah i mean that was probably Yeah, I mean, that was probably one the
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, man. Gonna come on up to Cedar Point and hang out with him. Yeah. Yeah.
Chilly: more hilarious points of the tournament after their first game, they got rocked by 20 and, uh, Noah took them into the, into a back room, into a dark alley and, uh, established that it was Ty's team.
Chilly: Um, he did.
Sully Shaheed: He did. He did.
Chilly: so that that, that was, that was good. nah, man, kudos to them. They, they did the best they could. um you know, shout out to, shout out to Bob. Oh, Bobbo, as we were calling them.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, Bob, oh.
Chilly: Uh, uh,
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Chilly: a I mean, to his credit, when we, when we kind of got him on the same page and we did ask him to play a little bit defense and transition, he, he did the best he could, ah you know, shout out to Gary, Gary long, you know, played, he played the best he could, you know, played the best he could, shout out to tie for, you know, trying to rally the team together and coach the best he could, something that he's definitely not used to.
Sully Shaheed: but that's good
Chilly: And then, uh,
Sully Shaheed: Oh no, he never had to do that at home.
Chilly: no and and
Sully Shaheed: Never will.
Chilly: And then, um and again, Owen and and Sean ah basically just kind of getting yelled at by James and i um So kudos kudos to those boys. ah so But, no, man, they played great.
Chilly: Unfortunately, it's hard to kind of win when you're only running a two-man offense. ah But, I mean, they they they certainly did the best they could. So kudos. Kudos.
Sully Shaheed: Made it very, very entertaining, very entertaining.
Chilly: yes Yes, they did. So kudos to the boys. I know Owen had the itch. That man was dying to play after the tournament was over. Obviously.
Sully Shaheed: oh Yeah, he was ready to get back out there. He's like, turn the damn courts on.
Chilly: Yeah. Yeah. So, and then obviously ty and Sean, you know, they were at practice yesterday. Well, Sean played a couple games and then his fingers hit the blisters from golf and his fucking back hurt.
Chilly: Motherfucker, you are like 16 years old.
Sully Shaheed: oh
Chilly: How the fuck do you have?
Sully Shaheed: Oh, poor guy.
Chilly: Aww. My back hurts.
Sully Shaheed: poor man.
Chilly: Get out in the fucking Worley ball car and play.
Chilly: my got blisters. got blisters from too much golf.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, well, shout out to Ty, he showed up, put in some work.
Chilly: you he i want Yeah, shout out to Ty. You know, that's why ty got the fucking captain spot.
Sully Shaheed: Damn right, damn right.
Chilly: Yeah. Damn right. But no, man, that that team is cool.
Sully Shaheed: All right, let's move on up to C, man, which was claimed by Minnesota's own Whirly-sirs. So, congratulations them. Played a hell of a tournament.
Chilly: and
Sully Shaheed: Number one seed and ran Z-table.
Chilly: Yep. Yeah, Worley serves. We got Luke, John, Alex, Chris, and Tyler. Tyler, do i I do believe, was like a last-minute fill-in. had never played Nationals before, so I don't know how all UC teams fucked that up, but congratulations to Minnesota.
Sully Shaheed: Might have had a hand in that. yeah Might have had a small hand in that, but, you know, whatever. Whatever. It's fine.
Chilly: right
Sully Shaheed: um So should we talk about them a little bit, or should we talk about the third-place team?
Chilly: i think we should talk about yeah yeah um i think uh i think we'll give the minnesota boys their their flowers first get let's get let's give the boys their flowers man they play great uh i have
Sully Shaheed: Or should we talk about the team that was supposed to run the table? there There's so much to talk about and see.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Chilly: Had the luxury of reffing the C final. It was a great final between them and Chicago. So, again, kudos to the Chicago team because they did play well come tournament time ah coming out of the loser's bracket.
Chilly: So, again, kudos to Chicago before we go tear them down. um So, that again, they played. ah Minnesota played great. You know, shout out to Kyle for coaching them.
Chilly: ah Welcome to B. uh it'll be it'll be fun if y'all decide to play b i know you guys said that's the plan but obviously things could change but uh but man yeah welcome to b you know i i don't think they should i think they should and i think yeah i think they should i mean if it's better for their center for them to split up then obviously you do what's best for your center but okay i can play b
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I
Sully Shaheed: yeah hope they roll out and be I really hope they do. i hope they keep their their their core squad together. And yeah, I agree 100%. and percent
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, just play
Chilly: Fucking play B, you know.
Sully Shaheed: Damn right, you earned it. You earned it.
Chilly: i mean play
Sully Shaheed: Get on out there.
Chilly: I mean, like play be and then obviously when Nationals being in their center, or maybe not necessarily their center because it'll be at the bougier one.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: But, you know, play B.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hm.
Chilly: Get a year of B under your belt and then win it at home.
Sully Shaheed: Damn right. Damn right. Yeah, I like that. um Do we have anything negative to say about ah Death by Taco? Or just the fact that the ah the the fortune sport and didn't come to fruition?
Chilly: Well, I mean, they were going – I mean, they were going – remember, they were going undefeated and then lost to the no practice C team at our center.
Sully Shaheed: In the first game.
Chilly: First game.
Sully Shaheed: Out the chute. I'm literally driving home, driving from the airport. You text me. I just start dying laughing.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: ah Come on At least give us an interesting run.
Chilly: I mean, yeah, I mean – Again, it was none of those guys who said it. their their coach but Their coach put a lot of extra pressure on him, like he should.
Sully Shaheed: Correct.
Chilly: um Just, damn, to lose the first game? Like, come on.
Sully Shaheed: Come on.
Chilly: ah Come on, man.
Sully Shaheed: Come on. Come on.
Chilly: man. Come on, man.
Sully Shaheed: Come on, man. um I think it was decided on the ah Seattle podcast that um
Sully Shaheed: the third best player on the third best team that gets the Johnny Buck's award was, um gosh, why can't I remember his name right now? The young man from Minnesota. Brady?
Chilly: Brady?
Sully Shaheed: Brady. Yeah, I think i think they're i think they i think you're going to give it to Brady. and And I think I agree.
Chilly: So we're not going to give John Hansen his own award?
Sully Shaheed: He's not the third best player on the team.
Sully Shaheed: Arguably.
Chilly: Thinking about that.
Sully Shaheed: Arguably. i think I think that's Brady.
Chilly: So is John better than Brady or is he below Brady?
Sully Shaheed: think he's better than Brady.
Chilly: So, okay.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, Chili, he might have a spot in a certain top ten list that's gonna come out soon. So I'm just saying.
Chilly: Oh, yeah. I mean, how could I forget?
Sully Shaheed: You can't be top 10 in all of Whirly Ball and not be one of the best players on your own team.
Chilly: tuned.
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, it's kind of embarrassing.
Sully Shaheed: Just saying.
Chilly: It's kind of embarrassing to maybe make a top 10 list and you're still in C. Or it's a detriment.
Sully Shaheed: Could be.
Chilly: I mean, we'll see.
Sully Shaheed: Could be.
Chilly: Stay tuned. Spoiler.
Sully Shaheed: Spoilers. Right, spoilers.
Chilly: Spoiler.
Sully Shaheed: But no, i think everyone i think everyone played well in that division.
Chilly: Spoiler.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, no no real qualms about it I think the, I commentated the play-in game ah between the young ladies from Chicago.
Sully Shaheed: ah What was it? Frank and Beans.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: And Nina's team. Untouchables, I do believe.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Man, that was one of the most exciting games I've ever commentated in my life. That was so fun to watch. It was the battle back and forth that did big shot after big shot and defensive stand. Oh, man.
Sully Shaheed: That was the best playing game I've ever seen. And then when Frank and Beans won, it was just like, You can just tell this like this this elation, this excitement that was on their faces, man. It was so freaking cool.
Sully Shaheed: They played so well in that damn game. It was awesome. So if any minus the championship game, which I was checking out at the hotel. But um that game was probably the most exciting game that was in that C tournament.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Arguably.
Chilly: Yeah. I mean, again, shout out shout out to them. Again, that was a great game. I do remember vaguely watching that game. so
Sully Shaheed: Oh, man, if you do yourself a favor. Do yourself a favor and go back on YouTube and watch it. Curler C of The Worley Freak. But, yeah, go back and watch it, man. It was it was a lot of fun.
Sully Shaheed: A lot of fun to watch, man. it was a great game.
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, again, see ah see again to me, C was uber competitive. So yeah I think all around it was a solid division. um Again,
Chilly: i think any team that finished realistically within the top, you know, I don't think people were separated by a ton of games, you know, one through four, one through five.
Chilly: So, yeah, no.
Sully Shaheed: In seeding? No, no, was all by one game.
Chilly: So it was all about who got hot. but the at the right time. But yeah, shout out to Minnesota. ah It'll be interesting to see what Chicago does finishing in second. Do they move up to B? Do they go back?
Chilly: um You know, interested to see because they'll have some D guys moving up. Obviously, you got the other Chicago team with the you know, Frank and Bean and and stuff. So, you know, interesting to see what they do.
Sully Shaheed: And they'll be in cars that they're semi familiar with as well. So when we go to Michigan.
Chilly: and That'll help. So, know, yeah, kudos to them.
Sully Shaheed: It's a big help. It's a big help.
Sully Shaheed: All right, well, let's move on up to B, moving on up. No B was claimed by the stick jockeys. The stick jockeys.
Chilly: Yeah, we got Devin Brown, Rob Vaughn, Brandi Jones, Chris Bandlow, and Nathan Dahl.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, baby doll. That's what they got to fucking. Don't look like a goddamn baby to me.
Chilly: that's don't ever don't ever Don't ever say that again. That was embarrassing. How
Sully Shaheed: Baby doll. That's what they call him. Baby doll. His last name's doll.
Chilly: about...
Sully Shaheed: And it's not spelled anywhere close to the word doll.
Chilly: thought I was calling him fucking Nathan or Champ. Call him Champ.
Sully Shaheed: Baby doll. Baby doll. Listen, man. I'm um i'm disappointed an old chill squatch didn't come through.
Chilly: I needed, for my own selfish reason, for my own selfish reason, I needed that fucking team to win for my own selfish reasons.
Sully Shaheed: Kiefer? Kiefer?
Chilly: There's a certain...
Sully Shaheed: Are you allowed to discuss for selfish reasons?
Chilly: there's just There's a certain individual on that team who is on a team that he doesn't even remember that he's on, but we need him to get more A experience. yeah This might come back up in a topic of conversation later in this podcast, but, you know, it'd be nice to get him some fucking experience, all right?
Chilly: No, I mean, no, I mean, like, so truthfully, like...
Sully Shaheed: Go Mio-Yo team.
Chilly: Yeah, we'll get him in the shape. But no, I mean, the B Championship game, was was really that was a really competitive game as well.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chilly: I would advise and anybody to go back and watch that game as well if you didn't get to see it.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, yeah.
Chilly: It was a really good game. There was a clutch three in there by Mr. Rob Vaughn, I do believe. Hit a very clutch three to kind of put it away a little bit.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Chilly: So... ah No, a man, that the B championship game, man, those ah chill squash. There was a lot of ah hard out there. um So I think a lot of those guys, man, I think those guys are going to come back ready to go for Michigan, you know, depending on who's traveling. But ah B was cool. i thought miami played ah thought Miami played great, you know, in the tournament.
Chilly: You know, of course, we did have, you know, Nangot injured.
Sully Shaheed: I was like, why, why, why, why did all of a sudden they play a little better chill? Why?
Chilly: Because Nana's 105 fucking years old. That's why. Alright?
Chilly: I'll say it.
Sully Shaheed: What that got to do with me? like
Sully Shaheed: So you're saying that they got a small upgrade come tournament day?
Chilly: i don't I don't think it mattered who they took. It was going to be an upgrade. I don't think that's i don't think that's a wrong assessment.
Sully Shaheed: Regardless, they play it well.
Chilly: They played well, man.
Sully Shaheed: And it was it was exciting to watch. It was exciting to watch, that's for sure.
Chilly: It was great, man. It was great, man. Miami played great.
Sully Shaheed: ye
Chilly: ah MVP of that team, I believe, was Carl. I thought Carl played of his mind, man. so again
Sully Shaheed: Did he get to A, man? And again, shout out to the Outlaws um Lifetime Achievement Award. So, congratulations to them.
Chilly: Yes, sir. Yeah, so shoutout shout out to the Outlaws. Yes. Congratulations.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah. Yeah, make sure you get your Outlaws hat signed ah because they Worldly Ball royalty now. So, kudos to them.
Chilly: Yeah, kudos to them. ah I think it would have been cool if they could have had more of their team here. Again, I'm just being selfish, but but it it was ah it was a nice touch on the weekend for them.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: I thought they but they had a great weekend, truthfully, as a whole.
Sully Shaheed: Excellent. Actually, I agree 100%. hundred percent 100%. And A was claimed by, of course, whoever played with Rafael.
Sully Shaheed: So I don't care who's on that team. You don't even need to say the roster.
Chilly: I'm going to say the roster.
Sully Shaheed: Rafael's team.
Chilly: i think
Sully Shaheed: Rafael's team won A.
Chilly: Rafael's team. So Rafael carried Brad Oki. He carried Noah. He carried Jordan. And he yeah he carried Gil. He carried three unlimited champions.
Chilly: So shout out to him.
Sully Shaheed: So, so, in 2025, who are the five best Seattle players?
Chilly: Fall time.
Sully Shaheed: Rafael, Rafael, Rafael, and Rafael because he spits hot fire.
Chilly: no Rafael. Rafael.
Sully Shaheed: I'm just saying. Like I said, now a signed jersey of his is immortalized in my den right over there. So thank you, Rafael, for giving me that. That was, it meant a lot.
Sully Shaheed: It meant a lot to me. i It meant everything to me. So thank you for that. um I think the conversations that you and I had by having the pleasure of sitting with Mr. Gil at the banquet was was awesome.
Sully Shaheed: A lot of insight on some things.
Chilly: Oh, yeah, that was... Yeah, that was that was that was cool.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, man.
Chilly: I definitely appreciated sitting with James at the banquet.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm, yeah, thank you, James, for letting us, for entertaining us throughout that time.
Chilly: think I... Yeah.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: That was a lot of fun.
Chilly: yeah Yeah, so shout out to James for that. No, A as a whole, um I mean, I think A was a was competitive. um Obviously, you had the the three Seattle teams were 1, 2, and 3. Yeah.
Chilly: ah
Sully Shaheed: Mm-mm.
Chilly: At that point, ah the Michigan 3-1-3 team with Timmy, Clint, Sam, Driscoll, Dave, ah that team was four. We were five.
Chilly: And then kind of just a mixture of the other teams below. But, ah you know, hey, shout out to Chicago for giving it the old try. They got a welcome to a moment. So, though, you know, they took their beatings. They also, I mean, they won some games, man. So, again, kudos to them.
Chilly: ah We had a very close game with them. low-key, I hit a game-winning three against them. was luck. um That was basically the shot of...
Sully Shaheed: Sitting next to your mother during that game, I thought she was going to knock my ass out the seat.
Chilly: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Chilly: I'm sorry.
Sully Shaheed: As soon as that bitch left your hand, I was like, oh, boy, that's good.
Chilly: don't know.
Sully Shaheed: And then bang. And she fucked. Bam.
Sully Shaheed: I'm like, okay.
Chilly: rich I'm sorry.
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: um'm I'm so sorry.
Sully Shaheed: Thank you. Thank you for that.
Chilly: I'm i'm sorry. I apologize.
Sully Shaheed: That's my son! That's my chili! Chili!
Chilly: I'm sorry. she can go into that She can go into that kid's discussion of like leave your moms at home.
Chilly: I'm sorry. She took up space.
Sully Shaheed: your mothers at home. Let children at home.
Chilly: Leave your but
Sully Shaheed: Just let us play fucking whirly ball.
Chilly: yeah i mean so it was cool um obviously you know we had our own little you know controversies but obviously then you had uh you know when it came down controversy uh you know you know with the top three seeds being seattle they uh you know they
Sully Shaheed: I'm sorry. Mm-hmm.
Chilly: It's again, they were arguing that the third seed got the best spot. That way they could pick what, you know, thing in the bracket they wanted to be in and like Just a so much bitching out of those, out of them three. um This fucking play, man.
Chilly: i think, I think, i think one reasonable idea I had, i think ultimately if you want to solve that issue, i think if the one seed just wants to say, Hey, just play where you're seated. i think they should have that option.
Chilly: So they can either pick their seed or the one seed can play like, listen, we're just going to play where everybody's seeded and you go on your way.
Sully Shaheed: Thanks.
Chilly: So it still gives us something to play for. So that way, you know you know, teams aren't wanting to play against one another. But again, that's a Seattle problem. They can ah they could fuck around and find out on their own.
Chilly: um so And then, you know, getting booted out of the ref stand.
Chilly: Holy shit.
Sully Shaheed: ah I wonder if a certain Joquette had something to say about that. Heaven forbid a Michigan or fucking Seattle team loses for some reason. And here comes Tom swinging his big fucking ground.
Chilly: Yeah. I mean, again, you go back,
Sully Shaheed: And then had the nerve, then had the nerve to ask y'all to get back in the rep stand.
Chilly: yeah, it was, yeah, as he showed up.
Sully Shaheed: And then Anthony casually told him to basically fuck off.
Chilly: Um, And I politely told him no because so i didn't want i didn't want to take I didn't want to take Jordan out of the game if I would have made a call. Because I would have made one call, Jordan would have been fucking furious. um And maybe rightfully so.
Chilly: um But, ah no. I mean, like, if you go back and watch that game, because, like, they were bitching about, like, the clocks. You go back and watch it, man. the Key was on.
Chilly: Clocks were good. Like, I call...
Sully Shaheed: I have no doubt.
Chilly: Yeah, I missed, like, truthfully, like, I will admittedly, I missed one call. I think Clint was on Rafael's hand, and I missed that call. But other than that, like, it's like,
Sully Shaheed: I'm willing to bet Raphael made the shot anyway because he's fucking Raphael.
Chilly: I mean, I mean, again, Jordan, again, Jordan apologized after the fact. So, again, it's all in good fun. But, I mean, if they would have lost, you know, known what would have happened. But, again.
Chilly: We're just over here. And ah kudos to the Michigan team as well. for
Sully Shaheed: Played their ass off, man.
Chilly: na yeah They played great. So they played great that whole tournament. Kudos to them. um I will give a little bit of kudos to Atlanta. Atlanta played well on tournament day.
Chilly: i mean, for a bunch of guys that looked like they were going through it, you know, Thursday through Saturday. I mean, if you want if you want some good laughs, go back and watch some of the Atlanta games and just watch Kyle Phillips have mental breakdowns.
Chilly: Like, ah dude, they're they're great, man. Dude, like, he may not do it with his voice, but you can look at this man's face and, like, dude, his mannerisms were hilarious.
Sully Shaheed: His mannerisms are just.
Chilly: So if you want a good laugh, go back and watch them.
Sully Shaheed: All
Sully Shaheed: right, we're approaching the one hour mark. Two minutes on the banquet. Go. Thoughts.
Chilly: Banquet was good. It was good. For me, I have no complaints.
Sully Shaheed: I guess we need to, of course, congratulate, um you know, the only sport that inducts Hall of Famers who are in their prime, um Joe Tiffany, the new Hall of Famer.
Sully Shaheed: um Once again, the only sport that does that, which is weird and needs to be revisited. But he's a great player and, you know, obviously deserves it.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: However, he's going to be playing for 20 fucking years and he's already in the Hall of Fame.
Chilly: Yeah, ah again, yeah. Joe deserves to be there. Like Jeremy, even the year before, deserves to be there. um Like you said, it makes really no goddamn sense. um
Sully Shaheed: Oh, just did just this in from the NFL, Patrick Mahomes is in the Hall of Fame. Has been inducted. ah wait. He's still playing? still Still plays the game?
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Wait, he's he's still still in his prime?
Chilly: I think we could have a
Sully Shaheed: He's still really good?
Chilly: I think we could have a whole podcast on the Hall of Fame, which we probably need to do at some point.
Sully Shaheed: Huh.
Chilly: um
Sully Shaheed: Huh. Hmm.
Chilly: I mean, I mean, still
Sully Shaheed: No, LeBron James has been elected to the NBA Hall of Fame. He's still playing?
Chilly: playing.
Sully Shaheed: Still playing? That's weird.
Chilly: I wouldn't actually have a problem. If they put him ah if they put LeBron in now, i don't think I'd really have a problem with it.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, if he's like on his like farewell tour, okay.
Chilly: Right. Right.
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: Joe.
Sully Shaheed: But we're still talking about this dude being one of the highest paid players in the NBA you know and still putting up triple doubles every damn night. like Come on.
Chilly: Right. Yeah. So again, joe joe like you said, Joe's probably playing for another 20 years, 15, 20 years least.
Sully Shaheed: So let's be patient.
Chilly: twenty years at least
Sully Shaheed: Sure, Yeah.
Chilly: you know so
Sully Shaheed: yeah
Chilly: But again, again it's not it's not a slight to Joe because he deserves to be there. He had a great speech. um So again, it was it was good, man.
Sully Shaheed: I know, it was cute, it was cute, I like this.
Chilly: It was a good it was a good speech. he was he was this He was trying to hold back the tears. This man gave me grief.
Sully Shaheed: It came from the heart.
Chilly: This man gave me grief for having tears when I had to present my dad with the Lifetime Achievement Awards. He was giving me grief. and He's over here trying to hold it in. He's lucky he got those hugs.
Sully Shaheed: Bitch.
Chilly: hugs Those hugs saved him.
Sully Shaheed: Punk bitch. Getting all emotional and shit.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Hope.
Chilly: a So true.
Sully Shaheed: But yes, congratulations. And everybody that was involved with um putting together the banquet, the place, location, everything, everything I thought was great. And again, thank you ah to James Gill, who gave us the pleasure and honor of speaking with him um throughout, you know, that that banquet.
Chilly: ye Yeah, that was yeah yeah we had a we had a lot of good, healthy conversations with James.
Sully Shaheed: That was nice. That was nice.
Sully Shaheed: that wasn' it That was worth the price of admission for you and I.
Chilly: gang Yeah, yeah, I didn't even need the food at that point. ah You know, about the game of Worley Ball, where it's potentially going, and then, you know, you know we discussed the Hall of Fame with James, too, so um i think I think we do.
Sully Shaheed: and when we basically shut them down didn't we
Chilly: We basically did. i mean, James kind of agreed with us, so
Sully Shaheed: but no kind of but no kind of but again another discussion right for another whole another podcast you're absolutely right absolutely right
Chilly: Yeah, he he really had nothing. But, you know, we'll talk about it. Yeah, for another time. Yes, sir.
Sully Shaheed: Chill. I think it's time to have some fun. Listeners, if you made it to the one-hour mark in the podcast, thank you. We greatly appreciate it. No matter what platform you're listening on or watching on, if you're on the old YouTube, make sure to hit the like button.
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Sully Shaheed: And make sure you go listen to Mark Money Mills, Noah, and Steve. on the OG edition of What in the World? And of course, Chicago Boys.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: And if you haven't listened to The Roast by one John Buckets and KB, go listen to that. It's a lot of fun, lot of Worley Ball content to consume.
Chilly: yeah
Sully Shaheed: So make sure you do all the things.
Chilly: Yeah. Yeah. Make sure you give everybody a like, a follow, ah share a share, comment. You know, go do all those things, man. it's it's It's a lot of hard work by everybody, so, you know, make sure you just give them a little bit of love.
Sully Shaheed: Hell yeah. So if you're done with the Nationals recap, thank you. You can get the hell out of here. But if you want to know Chill and I's thoughts on a potential national replacement for Unlimited, if not in addition to the Unlimited tournament, stay tuned because we have a healthy discussion coming up about what we can do to spice up the Whirly Ball community.
Sully Shaheed: So if you're here for that, keep on listening. If not, we appreciate your time and we'll see you on the next one.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: So chill, you and I came up with the idea along with some contributions from some other people about um some fun ways to ah spice up the tournament and some creative ways to have other players from other centers kind of collaborate into a competitive environment or a tournament setting.
Sully Shaheed: So we've listed several pairings of tournaments or tournament teams that we could introduce in a national setting.
Sully Shaheed: Okay?
Chilly: Yes, sir.
Sully Shaheed: So, and some of them could be extended. Because remember that, I think, was it Clint that mentioned how many father-son pairings that we had?
Chilly: i think he's I think he said like 17 is what the number was.
Sully Shaheed: s That's a lot.
Chilly: It is a lot.
Sully Shaheed: That's a lot. And I saw a couple of pictures and, you know.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: So we figured, why not have a game between the father-sons in a tournament setting?
Chilly: I think we also i think and think we have to stress that we are trying not to double dip out of the categories.
Sully Shaheed: So there's a lot of options.
Sully Shaheed: Trying, trying, trying.
Chilly: Try.
Sully Shaheed: There's one category that unfortunately...
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: We'll be forced to double dip, but we we we may be able to get out of that. So underneath the link of the of the video or the the the podcast link, make sure if you fall into one of these categories that were not mentioned, please make sure to leave a comment below.
Chilly: Yeah. Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Okay?
Chilly: Yeah, yeah. It's ah it's essentially it's it's the Worleyball version of the census. You know, this we need...
Sully Shaheed: Yes. Yes, if you're if if I forgot you were married to a whirly baller, if I forgot you were a sibling of a whirly baller, if I got if I forgot you were dating whirly baller, if I forgot that you're actually black and don't seem black, you need to let me know if you are Asian or Latino and I didn't include you in these teams, you need to let me know.
Chilly: If we didn't...
Chilly: If...
Chilly: Or...
Chilly: if you have If you have siblings that we didn't know that were playing, let us know.
Sully Shaheed: Let me know. Let me know. so So let's start with father, son. And here's the roster I constructed.
Chilly: Okay. Okay. Let's see it.
Sully Shaheed: Now feel free to substitute, okay?
Chilly: right we All right.
Sully Shaheed: Because this one has some options, all right?
Chilly: right. All right. All right. All right.
Sully Shaheed: So the father team would be represented by Eric Schrader, John Weber, James Gill, Clint Fisher, and Gary Long.
Sully Shaheed: Meaning the Suns team will be Ty Schrader, ah Jaron Weber, Owen Gill, Caleb Fisher, and Dalton Long.
Sully Shaheed: Now, there are options, okay? We can make substitutions.
Sully Shaheed: Because remember, you two, being yourself and your brother Anthony, they're out.
Chilly: yeah we're Yeah, we're at the best.
Sully Shaheed: Because you have another game to play in. So-
Chilly: We're at the primetime game to go play in.
Sully Shaheed: So Billy O, Billy O can't be represented on the father team.
Chilly: <unk>
Sully Shaheed: Now, if you would like to substitute Rick Morad and Sean Morad, you can.
Chilly: Okay, okay.
Sully Shaheed: And I think what, and I'm missing the DeWitts, right?
Chilly: Yes, the DeWitts, correct.
Sully Shaheed: So the DeWitts can be subbed in on this team. So, but but what do you think of this proposition right here?
Chilly: Correct.
Sully Shaheed: Would that be a competitive father-son game?
Chilly: Oh, dude, that's fathers all day.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, it's gotta be fathers all day, right? However.
Chilly: That's fathers all day. James ain't losing to his son. you kidding?
Sully Shaheed: But remember, have Gary.
Chilly: It doesn't matter, bro. you know you know how many You know how many terrible people James has probably carried the A titles?
Sully Shaheed: No matter.
Chilly: He's been doing it. Like, he carried Gary.
Sully Shaheed: Listen, I just went one time, Dalton, to shoot around James Gill.
Chilly: You think James is playing defense? Come on now. James is picking.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, yeah. I got to look at that roster.
Chilly: yeah
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, Weber's playing defense.
Chilly: James is picking.
Sully Shaheed: Weber's playing defense. Yeah, yeah.
Chilly: Yeah, man. You got Weber and Clint back there.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, that's, oh. Oh, the the but fathers would have a good run in that tournament now that I think about it.
Chilly: it yeah they they they'd be
Sully Shaheed: Now that I think about it.
Chilly: ah not Until they face one of the sibling teams and then they got Gary. They need to sub. they need They would need to sub.
Sully Shaheed: They need DeWitt. They need Justin DeWitt.
Chilly: I think they would need no DeWitt by all by far.
Sully Shaheed: Or they need Ricky.
Chilly: Oh, God, Ricky.
Sully Shaheed: DeWitt? Okay. Okay.
Chilly: Yeah, they need DeWitt for sure.
Sully Shaheed: Okay. I'm with that. I'm with that. Okay. So so tell us tell us in the comments what you think about the father-son team. All right.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Then we're going to move on. right. You got any other comments about that before we move on Because because guess we got to talk about seeding.
Chilly: No, the the Fathers are winning that game by far.
Sully Shaheed: We got to talk about seeding after.
Chilly: but
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: Well, we know. Let's just put it in into perspective. We'll get what the primetime game we'll get to, but those those are the top two seats.
Sully Shaheed: the Oh, you're talking about the older older younger?
Chilly: The siblings. Yeah, we're technically the top.
Sully Shaheed: well they if Well, no, because you would have to play the first game.
Chilly: Oh, you just want to sing it.
Sully Shaheed: So why are y'all going to losers?
Chilly: Oh, yeah. Well, I feel bad for whoever has to face one of those teams. I'm the losers.
Sully Shaheed: Because, I mean, let's say, okay, let's say they're at the top of the bracket, right? And then the Suns get destroyed, which they would.
Chilly: Yep, they would.
Sully Shaheed: That means that younger, older team, if they're on that side of the bracket, have to face what the sibling
Chilly: Oh my god. oh my god. Them boys are getting taken to the fucking shed.
Sully Shaheed: did. All right, well, let's go ahead and talk about it. Let's go and talk about it. Older, younger, in the primetime game, older sibling, younger sibling,
Chilly: and so The primetime game. Yeah. Alright.
Sully Shaheed: Okay, older siblings on my roster, and tell me if I'm wrong, are represented by Anthony Ola, Eric LaPlante, Brad Dovey, Barrett Davis, and, oh gosh, I'm missing one.
Chilly: Alright.
Sully Shaheed: Who's the other one?
Chilly: be Or be double dipping the Willis's.
Sully Shaheed: Oh yeah, that's why I left them off, the Willises, that's right.
Chilly: Correct. So it
Sully Shaheed: So again, that'd be Caleb, Eric Kalen. So if there's another sibling duo in Whirly Ball that I don't know about, please comment down below so I can not use the Willis's in this game.
Chilly: yeah
Chilly: would be Kalen. Yeah. I do have, we do have two siblings that we could. It depends if you want to pull siblings out of retirement.
Sully Shaheed: Talk to me.
Chilly: right, so we have the Huffmans, Jordan and Colby.
Sully Shaheed: The Huffman's, okay.
Chilly: And then um I hit Anthony with this one and he took him a second.
Sully Shaheed: Not the Ola's. Not Johnny Owen. Really, O?
Chilly: speed Anthony said absolutely. Billy O would go to the older siblings. Younger siblings would get Johnny.
Chilly: it
Sully Shaheed: Oh, that'd be so good. That'd be so good.
Chilly: hear
Sully Shaheed: So, as of active players, if we don't use retirees,
Chilly: If we...
Chilly: I think we have to take the Willis.
Sully Shaheed: The Willis's would have to double dip. So that means the younger team would get Austin.
Chilly: Correct. Correct.
Sully Shaheed: So you're you're content on the younger siblings winning you this game.
Chilly: Oh, yeah. We're fucking winning, bro. me It's me, Jarrett, Joe, Austin, and then we have Gage. By the way, Gage is the one who needs the one B. I need that boy to get some A experience.
Sully Shaheed: I know who you were talking about. I know who you're referring to.
Chilly: i don't the the I don't know if the mass is new.
Chilly: But selfishly, i need Gage to get to A. Because this game is way more important than any A championship and unlimited game.
Chilly: You can't lose the fucking family.
Sully Shaheed: Man,
Chilly: You can't lose the fucking family. Are you kidding me?
Sully Shaheed: that's, that'd be a tough game, dude.
Chilly: Yeah, man. I remember I remember i told Eric LaPlante this at the at the last Minnesota invite. I'm like, there's knocking out a team in the tournament, and then there's knocking out family in the tournament because I knocked out Anthony.
Sully Shaheed: It's a big difference.
Chilly: Game went shot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you can't you can't be out here losing the fucking family. Are
Sully Shaheed: Man.
Chilly: you kidding
Sully Shaheed: Oh, that, oh. I don't know if I can pick a winner of that one, man. That would be a, that would be a very competitive game.
Chilly: me? Yeah, you can. Come on. Come on. You know who you're picking.
Sully Shaheed: don't know. I'm not putting myself on blast anymore than I already do on this podcast, okay? gonna let that, I'm go leave well enough alone for that one.
Chilly: Come on. Come on.
Sully Shaheed: Nah, nah.
Chilly: Come on. Younger. Younger siblings or whatever, bro.
Sully Shaheed: I don't know, man. Anthony, LaPlante, Barrett.
Chilly: Come on.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, my gosh. Ooh.
Chilly: Come on. Knock it off.
Sully Shaheed: Comment below. Who wins?
Chilly: Come on.
Sully Shaheed: um
Chilly: Come on.
Sully Shaheed: Then on the other side of the bracket, you got the blacks versus the Latinos. And we have to split the bracket now because the Willises will have to double dip. So that means it's myself, Austin, Kalen, Carl, and Kendrick Brunson.
Chilly: mean
Sully Shaheed: And that would be going against, and and it's contingent because he didn't play this year, but we we're assuming he's playing next year. It'd be Chris Flores, Eddie, Greg Garcia, Mario, and Rafael.
Chilly: It's a good game.
Sully Shaheed: That's a good game.
Chilly: I think... I do think... that i think i think the Latinos are winning in that one.
Sully Shaheed: Only because it's Rafael, if I have another Latino, I kick his ass off the fucking team.
Chilly: That's why you need the comments below.
Sully Shaheed: Okay?
Chilly: That's why you need the sentences below.
Sully Shaheed: I know. That's why we need to, if you're a Latino that wants to play Wurley Ball, and I don't know you're a Latino, you need to let me know.
Chilly: Yeah. Yeah. I'm...
Sully Shaheed: So, but I think, I think, I think that team is unfortunately going to be held back a little bit by the inexperience of Kendrick. That'll be, and that's what I think is going to be your team's problem with Gage.
Chilly: Nah, man.
Sully Shaheed: Gage can play.
Chilly: Listen.
Sully Shaheed: Gage has skills, but he has nothing compared to experience compared to everybody else.
Chilly: Listen.
Chilly: Listen, Gage will be all right. Gage will be just fine.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, okay.
Chilly: Come on. We got Joe Tiffany, bro.
Sully Shaheed: All right.
Chilly: Okay.
Sully Shaheed: All right. Okay.
Chilly: It sounds like you're picking the older sibling team.
Sully Shaheed: What did that matter? What did that matter?
Chilly: and so
Sully Shaheed: What did that matter in A this year? What did that matter?
Sully Shaheed: How your activities team do this year? Huh? How'd they do? I'll wait.
Chilly: Listen.
Sully Shaheed: I'll wait.
Chilly: Listen.
Sully Shaheed: ain't got nothing but time. I'll wait.
Chilly: Listen.
Chilly: All right. Would our team be better than his A-team?
Sully Shaheed: What, the older siblings, or the younger sibling team better than his A team?
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: With Gage?
Chilly: Gage is all right. Hmm.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, Gage's a good player. He's just not there yet. Not yet.
Chilly: Listen, i think i think I think Gage could potentially be better than maybe one person who's 18.
Sully Shaheed: don't know.
Chilly: I won't name drop, but
Sully Shaheed: Maybe, maybe.
Chilly: maybe.
Sully Shaheed: And then the other side of the bracket, along with the blacks and Latinos, will be husband, wives, or couples. Couples, we decided to just go couples because we needed to add an extra team, right?
Chilly: Yeah. Well, and unless we didn't have five, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: So,
Chilly: so But couples, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: right, so we have um Austin and Kelsey Carter.
Chilly: Correct?
Sully Shaheed: Dan and Sarah Doherty, Sean and Cheryl Mooney, Tracy and Bill Z, right?
Chilly: Correct?
Chilly: Yep.
Sully Shaheed: ain't trying to pronounce the last name. I'm a butcher it, so.
Chilly: Yeah, no. Fuck it.
Sully Shaheed: And then we had to add one couple, right?
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Who was the couple?
Chilly: ah believe Scott McCarthy and Julie, believe, right?
Sully Shaheed: I hope that's accurate. If we said it wrong, we apologize.
Chilly: I hope if you all are together, I'm sorry about your luck.
Sully Shaheed: Right, you are now for this game.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: So...
Chilly: i I mean, Facebook says they're still official, so...
Sully Shaheed: So, Chill, I think your upset of the tournament happens right here.
Chilly: You think so?
Sully Shaheed: I think the wives can take the husbands.
Chilly: if she
Sully Shaheed: Because, I mean, the husbands, they have only a whirly ball game to lose.
Sully Shaheed: But at home... They have everything to lose.
Chilly: I mean, listen, Mooney commented last night that he said he's willing to sleep on the couch for the win.
Sully Shaheed: Listen, but you got to have four other teammates on the same page. I say, i say if it happened, so the husbands just casually throw the game and work their way through losers because they face the loser of the blacks and the Latinos.
Chilly: it
Sully Shaheed: So I say they have a better shot at beating one of those teams. And just let let the wives face the winner of the blacks and the Latinos. And just go from there.
Chilly: I mean, we'll see. I mean, because, listen, but do you really want that? Could you imagine? You're in the middle of a fight with your wife, and she'd be like, ah remember when we beat you at Whirly Ball? It'd come up.
Chilly: It'd come up. You know it would.
Sully Shaheed: Yes.
Chilly: You know it would.
Sully Shaheed: But it would be so worth it.
Chilly: Listen, if i if I had a spouse, if I had a spouse that I was playing against, um yeah, dude, I'm winning. don't care. It's winning at all costs.
Chilly: Can't be second best.
Sully Shaheed: man, my- In your own home?
Chilly: You can't be second best in your house.
Chilly: Yeah, you can't be second best.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, doesn't Dan have to deal with that already?
Chilly: Yeah, so this game, I mean, this would be Dan's Super Bowl at this point.
Sully Shaheed: It'd be the redemption arc.
Chilly: Mm-hmm.
Sully Shaheed: So listen, all right, so so hit me with it. who say who So on the one side, it's older, older or younger, father, son. We're taking the fathers, right?
Chilly: yeah Yeah, we're taking fathers.
Sully Shaheed: So that means it would be, so you're taking younger. it'd be younger versus fathers in the next round.
Chilly: Yeah.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Who you got?
Chilly: I got us.
Sully Shaheed: now now now Now, we substitute Gary for DeWitt.
Chilly: You have to. if If they... You have...
Sully Shaheed: If we put DeWitt on that team, it's DeWitt, Clint Fisher, James Gill, John Weber, and Eric. And then you, Joe T- Yeah, you you guys are winning, aren't you?
Chilly: it Yeah, dude, it's literally Wedge James.
Chilly: Just don't let James play, and we win.
Sully Shaheed: You think he can single-handedly win a game, though?
Chilly: James?
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Sully Shaheed: Ooh, that'd be a tough one.
Chilly: Don't let James play.
Sully Shaheed: That'd be a tough one.
Chilly: Yeah. No, we're winning, though.
Sully Shaheed: So then on the opposite side, so you're taking the husbands.
Chilly: Yeah, I'm taking the husband.
Sully Shaheed: You're taking the husbands and you're taking the Latinos.
Chilly: Yeah, i'm taking the Latinos.
Sully Shaheed: So who wins between the Latinos and the husbands?
Chilly: oh that the the
Sully Shaheed: gotta be the Latinos, right?
Chilly: yeah, had the LWO, the Latino World Order. Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: The LWO?
Chilly: ah They definitely win, yeah.
Chilly: they they have they they They're definitely winning.
Sully Shaheed: Listen, Chili, you can fuck off, all right? We're beating the Latinos, right? We're beating the husbands, and then we're going to get absolutely ransacked by you motherfuckers.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: However, actually, no, it would still be fucking competitive. and I think, yeah, that's that's a good team. We just need to get Kendrick up to speed, and it would be all right. Unless it's in Michigan.
Sully Shaheed: If Kendrick don't travel, you know who we get then, right?
Chilly: You get our uncle, Uncle Carlton.
Sully Shaheed: We get Unk.
Chilly: and What about the – I mean, I know he's banned from Burly Ball, but maybe you should get the black James Gill out of retirement.
Sully Shaheed: We get on.
Sully Shaheed: We have a better chance of getting Lenard out of retirement.
Chilly: yeah yeah Yeah. Well, when you're when he's not – I mean, one person's shadow banned, the other one's not.
Sully Shaheed: I know we get this and shout out to Lenard. Who's got his cute little family. He's doing well, doing big things, but man, I miss that man.
Chilly: But he needs to be he needs he needs to be in this race war that, you know...
Sully Shaheed: He needs to be in this race war.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Exactly.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Exactly.
Chilly: You know.
Sully Shaheed: but so
Chilly: What was that?
Sully Shaheed: So we're missing a we're missing one group, and that's the Asians.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: we need ah We need a group for the Asians for a play-in game.
Chilly: no no No, no, no. The Asians, we can fill. We can fill the Asians.
Sully Shaheed: I know we can fill it, but we they don't have an opponent is what I'm saying.
Chilly: We can tell. Come on. You know who their opponent is. It's the dream team. minus Minus the younger sibling team. But
Sully Shaheed: We're not putting the whites on the team in this tournament.
Chilly: it's the whites. Did we?
Sully Shaheed: That's not even fun. It's not even fun.
Chilly: yeah Listen, did did we? So the whites, right? We were trying to take somebody from every center at that point, right?
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, we're going to take one person from every center, yes.
Chilly: so So I think the whites, we were going to take, what, Brad Peters? And then Snowy?
Sully Shaheed: Oh, no, no, no, way wait, wait, wait, wait. What you can do is do the non-wives of Whirly Ball. You can do the girls.
Chilly: We do need the girls, yes.
Sully Shaheed: We can do the girls.
Chilly: We can do the girls.
Sully Shaheed: So, against the Asians, the women, Christy, right? That's the captain of that team, without question.
Chilly: Without question.
Sully Shaheed: Alex is another good one from Chicago.
Chilly: ah bre Brandy.
Sully Shaheed: Brandy, B champion.
Chilly: Yep, Brandy. Yep.
Sully Shaheed: um
Chilly: They got two A players on that team.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: who would Who would fill out that team nicely, though? Because we have a lot of women to s select from.
Chilly: ah
Chilly: We do. I mean, I think they would have to scout.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I think they'd have to scout for those for those last two spots.
Chilly: They to scout. They would have to scout. Yeah. Yeah, because technically julie technically Julie got taken, so she's out.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, so... so
Sully Shaheed: So Brandy and Christy, if you're listening, scout for those last three spots because you got to go against the Asians in round one.
Chilly: Yeah. so hit
Sully Shaheed: so what we got, Sam Kim, Sean Morad, Brad Patinia, Cheekwon, and ah who's the other?
Chilly: Sam, Brad Batanya. Yeah.
Chilly: Well, we got Steve.
Sully Shaheed: Steve, right?
Chilly: We can also use Rick Morad because technically he didn't make a team either.
Sully Shaheed: But he's like a scout.
Sully Shaheed: He can get in on, he can get on the older team, a couple teams.
Chilly: boy oh do or do we need do we need ricky do Or do we need Rick to ref the Hall of Fame game?
Sully Shaheed: No, because he's the 10th player. i don't have 11.
Chilly: if we If we break people out of retirement, like if the Michigan guys play, right?
Sully Shaheed: He would have to play in the Hall of Fame game.
Chilly: So that's that could be potentially three.
Sully Shaheed: Wait, who's the third? We got Tom Bedavides.
Chilly: Billy? Billy? Arkell and Billy?
Sully Shaheed: Arkell and Billy. That's right. That's right. So, yeah, we got the Hall of Fame game. Because Gil's got to play twice.
Chilly: Yeah, I think Gillsman.
Sully Shaheed: oh Carl.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Joe's got to play twice. Clint's got to play twice. Christy's got to play twice.
Chilly: yeah Yep,
Sully Shaheed: Sam's got to play twice. And ah Jeremy. Jeremy.
Chilly: and then Rick's reffing.
Sully Shaheed: And then Rick's reffing, the Hall of Fame game.
Chilly: Rick's reffing. Just know that game will be within two points until the last minute, no matter how it goes.
Sully Shaheed: backs Facts, facts.
Chilly: Because Rick with his fictitious fictitious scoring.
Sully Shaheed: So.
Sully Shaheed: So let us know in in the Whirly Ball community on future podcasts, would you like to see a format like this? Either you have a tournament or a race war or a sibling war or a Hall of Fame game instead of the dry ass, stale ass, boring ass, unlimited teams.
Sully Shaheed: What would be more entertaining? Let us know.
Chilly: Are you not entertained?
Sully Shaheed: I mean, they're great players, but we're we're we're staggering those great players now in the sibling wars and the race wars and the husband-wife wars and and the father-son wars.
Chilly: I'm telling you, man.
Sully Shaheed: You still get to see your favorite Worldly Ballers play, just in a different format.
Chilly: I'm telling you, man. The, uh, that older, younger sibling game would be the, uh, that'd be the most important game of my weekend.
Chilly: I ain't fucking losing, bro.
Sully Shaheed: Hey, I want see it.
Chilly: I ain't fucking losing.
Sully Shaheed: I want to see all of these games. Except father-son, because that's that's a blowout.
Chilly: I do too.
Chilly: Nah, man. I, I, I,
Sully Shaheed: Father-son is a blowout.
Chilly: It's a blow up. I still want to see it.
Sully Shaheed: i would I would like to see women, I would like to see the women of World of All versus the Asians.
Chilly: Yeah. yeah
Sully Shaheed: I'd like to see that.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Christy going against freaking Sam Kim, like the good old days. Well, the current days, technically.
Chilly: Yeah. yeah Still current.
Sully Shaheed: Current days.
Chilly: Still current.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, man, that'd be so much fun.
Chilly: Oh, hey, the women's team, you can put Nina on that team.
Sully Shaheed: Nina, right?
Chilly: Yeah, right.
Sully Shaheed: Right? Right?
Chilly: Am right?
Sully Shaheed: Right?
Chilly: i Am I right?
Sully Shaheed: um I mean, am I right? Am I right? So comment down below, ah he said who would you what would you rather see? Would you like to see this in addition to? the unlimited tournament because I know tradition and blah, blah, blah, blah. blah bla blah bla blah blah But I think the whirly ball community needs some spice.
Sully Shaheed: We need a little bit of spice. And I think chill and i have come up with the way to do it. Just saying.
Chilly: I feel like somebody's going to argue for the the Brad's team. The all Brad's team.
Sully Shaheed: I don't give a fuck if your first name is Brad. You got the most generic name on the damn planet. Fuck off, Brad. we can go Brad, Brad, Brad.
Chilly: yeah
Sully Shaheed: Fuck you if your name is Brad, okay? right, Brad Elkey, fuck you. Brad Dobies, fuck you. you know Brad Patina, fuck you.
Chilly: Peters.
Sully Shaheed: Peters, nah, I like Peters. but That's my homie. That's my homie. What's the other one? oh Reading.
Chilly: breathing it's a double just a
Sully Shaheed: Who would they go against? Who would they go against? What other common-ass name is left in Whirly Ball?
Chilly: i'm just saying it doesn't have to be a common name i'm just giving out categories
Sully Shaheed: It has to be. ah my name's Brad, and I'm good at Whirly Ball. You ain't want to see that shit. Brad.
Sully Shaheed: Fuck all Brads. Except Peters. That's my homie.
Sully Shaheed: Anywho, I think we did a great job tonight, chill.
Chilly: I think so, man. This is one of our longer, one of our longer podcasts.
Sully Shaheed: ah Any?
Chilly: We certainly covered a lot.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, because, you know, there's fun categories. There's fun categories. And the next fun one is going to be the top 10 list.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: So that'll be a good time.
Chilly: Yeah. Yeah. So just to let you know, our, uh, our, our, our next podcast will be the top 10 list. Uh, if you want to start kissing our ass in the comments, um,
Sully Shaheed: To make ye list.
Chilly: to make the list uh just know if you are unless if you are an a player you're not going to be on mine just pointing that out now
Sully Shaheed: See players you got a chance on mine baby.
Chilly: it all right so but uh yeah uh i know uh i i know one man that's been lobbying to move up on the list and you know i'll i'll give him a little taste here i eat kyle you're i think you're gonna move up so you know just
Sully Shaheed: i I think it's about time we move up Kyle.
Chilly: yeah I think I'm going to move up Kyle. so you know But we'll see here.
Sully Shaheed: Thanks for time.
Chilly: I'm still watching all the ah the games here. So um i do I do.
Sully Shaheed: and We got film, we got film to watch.
Chilly: I do. I do got film. So just know I'm putting a lot of thought into these lists.
Sully Shaheed: Thanks, Whirly Freak, of course, thank you to the Whirly Freak.
Chilly: Poorly Freak, Jeff Jackson.
Sully Shaheed: Shout out to Gus.
Chilly: Thank you.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, all the everybody that contributes ah to the production that has grown this game, it is it's, it's incredible how far we've come in just a matter of years, um, with production pictures, podcasts.
Sully Shaheed: Um, it's, it's, it's truly awesome to see. And I appreciate that. And, you know, we want to thank, uh, obviously Noah, Steve and Mark for, you know, giving us the green light to do our own thing over here. It's been awesome. And, um,
Sully Shaheed: We look forward to continuing this thing.
Chilly: Yes. Thank you.
Sully Shaheed: So be on the lookout for the top 10 list. Be on the lookout for interviews with Luke ah and Kyle Phillips, Michael Langenfeld. They'll be on soon enough to get in these Worley Ball streets.
Sully Shaheed: And yeah, man, I think that's it for the night, bro. I think we had a good time.
Chilly: Yeah, man.
Sully Shaheed: Make sure listen those other podcasts.
Chilly: Yeah, man. Again, listen to, again, the Seattle podcast, ah Chicago. i i assume Chicago. is probably going to put out some content soon. Again, they do a great job.
Chilly: I know they have a more, a more elaborate scheme.
Sully Shaheed: Elaborate.
Chilly: So I know there's probably a little bit tougher, but they do a great job. ah So again, give them a like, a follow. I think they, what do they do on YouTube and Twitch?
Sully Shaheed: Twitch, Twitch, yeah.
Chilly: me Yeah. so yeah So again, man, give the Chicago guys some love. They do great. Yeah. And thank you to everybody that ran the tournament. Thank you to the staff. Again, thank you to everybody, Jay, Noah, and Jeff Jackson, ah Gus, for all probably the stuff y'all do.
Sully Shaheed: The mechanics.
Chilly: Mechanics, thank you.
Sully Shaheed: The mechanics. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yep. All right, man. Well, we hit the hour and a half mark. We did a great job. I think we're going to call it there. And we'll see you with the top 10 list on the next episode of War in the World East Edition.
Sully Shaheed: Peace!
