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Sully Shaheed: It is officially national season, and by request of Josh Hirschman, Hirschsmith, Hirschmeyer, what's his last name, Joe?
Chilly: the Hirschman, the Hirschman,
Sully Shaheed: Hirschman? We need some in-flight entertainment for the upcoming national tournament, which is in two days. We are recording this on Memorial Day, and I think it's time for me and Joe to talk the old whirly ball one last time before nationals.
Sully Shaheed: So here we go.
Sully Shaheed: And welcome in to what in the world East edition, the real edition, the, the not so nice edition, the, the edition that people flame me on other podcasts because I make takes that are bold and say things that people aren't willing to say, but we're here chill.
Sully Shaheed: It's two days before nationals.
Chilly: We are here.
Sully Shaheed: It is, it is almost that time, man. Are we, uh, are we excited or are we excited?
Chilly: i mean, I'm excited. I'm not excited for this, you know, four-hour plane ride, but, you know, we're here. we'll ah We'll live with it and get ready to dive on into some Nationals takes and we'll go from there.
Sully Shaheed: That's it, man. So if you guys don't know, I am your host, Sully Ali Shahid. I am joined, of course, by my main my main man, chill man, who is representing the New World Order in the A division this year, as I am representing the classic, the throwback, Cleveland C.
Sully Shaheed: Ordered the shirt straight from Amazon.com. Two-day shipping arrived here fresh and-
Chilly: You got that pride. You got that pride.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, you already know I got that prime.
Chilly: That's hilarious.
Sully Shaheed: Come on, baby. Come on. I'm going to order them for $15 and I'm to sell them for $20 at the center. Watch. Make my profit. You know what i'm saying? But ah before we get into anything chill, it is Memorial Day.
Chilly: that's hilar
Sully Shaheed: So as we honor ah honor and remember those that have served. um So shout out to anybody that has known anybody or has represented any of our armed forces.
Sully Shaheed: um We thank you for your service on this beautiful Memorial Day. um Make sure to stay safe out there in your cookouts, your your barbecues, or however you are choosing to remember the fall. And so thank you everyone for their service on this beautiful Memorial Day.
Chilly: Thank you for your service.
Sully Shaheed: um
Chilly: Thank you for your service.
Sully Shaheed: Yes, yes, absolutely. And that is the last nice thing I'm going to say on this podcast. um No, that's just not true. That's just not true. So a lot of exciting things. We got team names. We got schedules. We got we got all the shebangabangs happening in the Whirly Ball community. And we are ready for Wednesday. Well, you are ready for Wednesday because you're playing on Wednesday.
Sully Shaheed: I'm not even playing on Wednesday.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: So I get to go and yeah probably drop you off and just enjoy Seattle for a day. I might catch the game. They play the Nationals that night.
Chilly: i don't even I don't even...
Sully Shaheed: So.
Chilly: You won't even be at the center by the time we play. You'll be just in the airport.
Sully Shaheed: yeah So I land at one thirty.
Chilly: Oh, you land at 1.30 at the Seattle airport?
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I land at 1.30.
Chilly: oh
Sully Shaheed: I get the car at 2.
Chilly: Oh.
Sully Shaheed: So in theory, yes, I will be in attendance.
Chilly: You could be there. Alright.
Sully Shaheed: I could be there. Or I'll just pop on my phone and live stream it from... Whirly Freak is sharing Jeff Jackson's setup? Is that...
Chilly: I think so. i think so i Either way... Either way, shout out to the people that are running the live streams. We thank you.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Chilly: The people that aren't playing, thank you. So, but yeah, I believe, yeah, so I believe that, I believe that's what's going on.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, so plenty of ways. So it is.
Chilly: But, so...
Sully Shaheed: OK. Yeah, I just want to make sure because, you know, there's going to be a lot of people that aren't traveling this year, don't get the opportunity to play that want to catch the live streams. And there is a multitude of ways to catch all of your favorite World ball players and World Warli action in Seattle 2025 this year so I think we went over it before chill, minus you know the city excitement that we get to enjoy. ah what What are we looking forward to the most for our Whirly Ball trip?
Chilly: um For me, it's just playing against other A players and new people, you know why playing against you guys at practice you know for the past five months. It's great.
Sully Shaheed: It's been a while, dude.
Chilly: it's been
Sully Shaheed: These practices have been so crazy, yeah.
Chilly: It's been a while. um But yeah, for me, and then again, seeing everybody and then enjoying the the family reunion, as most of us call it. So that's what I'm looking forward to the most.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, that's our bastard side of the family, isn't it? These damn Worleyball players, man.
Chilly: I think some.
Sully Shaheed: Like, they are a unique bunch.
Chilly: I think some. Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Some? Some?
Chilly: Yeah. Yeah, yeah yeah you got you got some you got some fucked up uncles in there and cousins.
Sully Shaheed: Some? so
Chilly: You know, try to avoid at all costs, but we love them.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, there is no doubt about that. No doubt about that. um Yeah, I mean, all the Seattle folks, you know what saying? They're cool. I mean, like, I have zero problems with, like, seeing anybody, you know? But, like, just like at a family reunion, I tend to Irish exit real quick.
Chilly: kill
Sully Shaheed: but on people you know like love seeing everybody but boy you will not catch me at that center 90 of the time i i just can't do it but um just like you said man it's going to be a different experience playing against um different level players because you you and chill or sorry chill you're chill um and the dobies get to kind of have a different experience because like it's the inverse of what we get to experience right so like you guys are playing in the a division with um you know a lot of talented i mean everybody in worldly ball is talented to a degree but there's divisions for a reason right so you guys get to play against different a players whereas we've already been playing against our a players so like now we get to go against c players
Sully Shaheed: And it's a different world, right? So, like, I don't have to worry about Jarrett, you know, 7'7", shooting over his ass, right? You extending your your brother's quick scoop.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, Brad doing whatever he does with his no-look pass and bullshit. The game is going to be, like, at a five-mile-an-hour pace.
Chilly: it should should be
Sully Shaheed: And no disrespect to NEC players, no disrespect, but y'all ain't my boys. So I had to play against that for five months. And now I get to play against y'all. It's about to be wraps, fam.
Sully Shaheed: It's about to be wraps.
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, the game should obviously be pretty slower. And then, yeah, there's no, ah you know, there's no Jarrett or I or anybody extending really to the degree we do and see.
Chilly: So you should be fine.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Chilly: But yeah. You know, you guys will do well. Playing against us will help a lot. So, you know, you guys will go to shoot the ball and be like, man, that guy's kind of short.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Sully Shaheed: Right. Or, wow, how big is this window? I'm going to yeah It's always the easy ones that are the hard ones, right?
Chilly: No, I'm like,
Sully Shaheed: It was just like yesterday. It was just like yesterday in practice when I think you got. ah You definitely got past me and then blew the bunny. And you're like, it's always the easy ones.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: that Like, yeah. Like, you can shoot through five scoops. But when there's a wide open bunny, it's the hardest shot in whirly ball.
Chilly: Yeah. yeah Yeah. yeah the The shooting through five scoops. That's easy. That that wide open layup.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: oof It's tough.
Sully Shaheed: that's That's the worst. Percentages go down.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Percentages go down.
Chilly: That's so true.
Sully Shaheed: But... Before we get into the schedule, chill, I think I can recap a couple housekeeping notes that Noah and Steve, a shout out to the What in the World, ah you know, Seattle edition, you know, the West Coast edition, you know, the the West Coast edition.
Sully Shaheed: oh Some housekeeping stuff, you know, the no alcohol, you know, outside, you know, liquor license in jeopardy. They will not police you on bringing in outside food like some sinners.
Sully Shaheed: yeah Chicago! Chicago!
Chilly: Yeah, man, that was... Yeah, I couldn't even have like That... Right?
Sully Shaheed: A Dunkin Donuts coffee, bro. You got policed over a Dunkin.
Chilly: that Right?
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, people just wanted their morning coffee and they went off on you. But Seattle, not so much. Y'all are good.
Chilly: I mean, you always had the out you could just should this had the outside coffee bar as well.
Sully Shaheed: Bring in all your stuff.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's that's true. That's true. um Marijuana is legal in that state, so just make sure you keep the weed smoking at least 25 feet away from the building.
Sully Shaheed: Be respectful. Just don't do it outside of the front doors and things like that. um And yeah, that was basically it. ah they They said they got some swag, a little bit of swag, a couple discount coupons that you should expect with your Whirly Ball bags.
Sully Shaheed: So that was pretty cool. And obviously, if you're an out-of-towner, make sure you pay your registration fee ah to this moment. I have not because I am lazy.
Chilly: i I paid it on Saturday. I didn't want to, but I did.
Sully Shaheed: you You're a good man. You're a good man. I still have not broken out my wallet to do so.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, I will. i will. But yeah. I want to make sure like my team has done it. Because like like Ricky's on my team. And you know how that dude is.
Chilly: Well, when Ricky's in bed with with the guy, Ricky could play for free.
Sully Shaheed: You're right, though.
Chilly: We don't know.
Sully Shaheed: ah We don't know.
Chilly: it's riing It's Ricky and Tom.
Sully Shaheed: And I don't want to know.
Chilly: So, like...
Sully Shaheed: Right. ah
Chilly: Rick could literally be playing for free. We have no idea.
Sully Shaheed: And nor do I want to know.
Chilly: No. No.
Sully Shaheed: Whoever he's in bed with is his business and his business alone.
Chilly: Yeah. I'll tell you.
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: Billy O is paid. He can't operate the computer, but Anthony paid it for him.
Sully Shaheed: Ah, ah, you, you. The Ola's got to stick together.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Ola's got to stick together.
Chilly: So...
Sully Shaheed: So now that all the brouhaha is out of the way, um i know some people came in early to enjoy the sights and sounds of ah of Seattle. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I begrudgingly have to go to work tomorrow.
Chilly: same
Sully Shaheed: Which, like, I don't understand why I didn't take off the extra vacation day. But that's neither here nor there, right? It's neither here nor there.
Chilly: i'm this I'm just saving the eight hours. it it won't.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: It'll be easy.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I feel the same way because I'm just going to F off tomorrow anyway. I mean, I'll be honest. And I know no one at my job listens to my Whirly Ball podcast, so they can't call me out. And what are you going to do?
Sully Shaheed: Tell h r
Chilly: They'll tell
Sully Shaheed: Anywho.
Chilly: They'll tell you.
Sully Shaheed: Who?
Chilly: Nice.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, they would tell me to tell on me. Yeah, exactly. Ah, the perks of the job, chill. The perks of the job.
Sully Shaheed: But let's get into it, man. So we got the schedule release. um And we got, obviously, like I said, the team names associated with the schedule release. And before we get into the bullshit, let's get into something nice.
Sully Shaheed: Because as I did last year, i would like to award a special team that came up with the best team name.
Chilly: nice
Sully Shaheed: So if you are a member of this team that I'm going to announce as the winners of the best team name, A drink is on your boy Sully when you see me at Nationals.
Sully Shaheed: So make sure you pull me aside. Tell me I'm a member of that team. And I got you. So, so what do you think of the team names in general before we pick out the best team name?
Sully Shaheed: Are they original?
Chilly: i mean
Sully Shaheed: Are they, are they retro? Are they, are you know, what are we thinking of create creativity in the Whirly Ball community?
Chilly: I mean, i i think they're pretty good. i mean, you got some old faithfuls in there. That's for sure. ah With the outlaws and then, you know, the vintage Cleveland Sea.
Sully Shaheed: Yes. Yes.
Chilly: um
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: So, I mean, you got some you got some retro names in there. You got, um you know, they're they're okay.
Sully Shaheed: What do you think of teams that that send out the same same team name every year?
Chilly: I like it.
Sully Shaheed: So, like, yeah the Cleveland Steamers.
Chilly: ah
Sully Shaheed: they're They're the Cleveland Steamers. There will always be the Cleveland Steamers. The Outlaws. There's another one. Perfect perfect example. um what What do you think of switching names or what do you think of, like, you know, changing it up every year?
Chilly: I
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Chilly: i would like to have the same team name, personally. Because that way you can just alter your design and color a little bit. I think it makes doing the shirt easier.
Chilly: i mean, obviously I understand that some people can't ah can't have the same team name because obviously you're playing with new people every year, so I get it.
Sully Shaheed: Teams change. That's right.
Chilly: So i totally get it, but...
Sully Shaheed: That's right. Teams change.
Chilly: i do I would prefer to keep the same team name because I'm just old school in that sense.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I guess that's the primary reason why people do it is because team rosters do change. So, but again, if like and to your point, like you said, if there's the same team, I feel they should keep the same team name.
Sully Shaheed: And again, it makes designing the shirts a lot easier.
Chilly: Yeah. i think i think I think Minnesota with the Whirly-Sers, I believe they are a a reoccurring name.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Sully Shaheed: Yes, yes, the Whirly-sers.
Chilly: I believe.
Sully Shaheed: And just like everyone asks when we talk about Minnesota's team, is that the Jersey team?
Chilly: I think that's the only C team they have, right?
Sully Shaheed: I ah think so.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Luke's team?
Chilly: I believe it would be that team. So, yes.
Sully Shaheed: Let's say they are the Jersey boys.
Chilly: Yes.
Sully Shaheed: Good, good.
Chilly: Excited to see what jerseys they be wearing.
Sully Shaheed: I know. Like, was it last year the year before they were rocking the Tune Squad once?
Chilly: I believe so.
Sully Shaheed: That shit was hot. I will admit that that was hot. When they broke out the Tune Squad, that was pretty dope. I'll give them some credit.
Chilly: Yeah. I think it would...
Sully Shaheed: But yeah, i I'm excited to see what they can do. I mean, you know, we've obviously seen them perform before, you know, Chef Luke, you know, cooking up in the kitchen. you know I'm saying?
Chilly: If I don't ah if i don't see a Detlef shrimp jersey out there, I'm going be pretty pissed off.
Sully Shaheed: ah Not the Detlef shrimp.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: what about ah What about Rick Smith?
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: ah we we Yeah, we were watching the Pacers game last night dropping some retro names.
Chilly: an
Chilly: I mean, I need some Sean Kemp.
Sully Shaheed: Which one?
Chilly: Who...
Chilly: give him ah Just Just give me the Sonics.
Sully Shaheed: which Which Sean Kemp jersey?
Chilly: I want the Sonics.
Sully Shaheed: Okay, okay. Like represent represent the old school Sonic one?
Chilly: Yeah, yeah, represent. I want the glove.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: um I need the glove out there.
Sully Shaheed: Ah, some Gary Payton. Ah, man, we definitely need a Gary Payton jersey out there.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Definitely need a Gary Payton jersey. I'm in. I want to see if I can find a nice retrofit Sean Kemp jersey when we're out in Seattle.
Chilly: greg Did Kevin Durant play for the Sonics before they left?
Sully Shaheed: Did they already convert to the Thunder?
Chilly: That i don't I don't know yet. I don't remember.
Sully Shaheed: m We're going to have to research on that. See you a nice original KD jersey.
Chilly: i think... I feel like he played before they left.
Sully Shaheed: We'll have to look that up.
Chilly: Yeah. If not,
Sully Shaheed: Is there any other retro retro Seattle Supersonics that we need to mention that Luke's team could represent?
Chilly: I'm sure that people in the comments can, ah people could throw some players in the comments.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chilly: But ah ah I hope the Worley-Sers did their homework.
Sully Shaheed: Give them some suggestions before they get on the plane.
Chilly: I better see some Supersonics jerseys out there.
Sully Shaheed: Right now. Now they have some expectations.
Chilly: Yeah, if not, if not, going to pretty pissed off.
Sully Shaheed: Like they have expectations.
Sully Shaheed: Right. I mean, like, we got we got Jay from Seattle spending, you know, X amount of hours and money on, ah you know, his jerseys, team center stuff, and, you know, all that shit.
Sully Shaheed: We got Jared Dobies ordering $500 worth of shirts from, like, five different centers.
Chilly: he literally He literally has a box.
Sully Shaheed: A box, chill. A box.
Chilly: A whole ass box.
Sully Shaheed: My team shirt came from Amazon.com. Like, I don't care anymore. I just don't care. They're all different colors. I don't give a shit. But the ah the New World Order shirts that we got last night were pretty slick.
Chilly: Yeah, man. Shout out to Brad Dobies for doing the shirts. So kudos to you, sir. They are they are nice.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, even though Brad Petinia did not give him permission to use the name for the team.
Chilly: Is there there' going to be a cease and desist? Ha ha ha ha.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're going to come out in the court and it's going to be like, ah guys, you got to change your name.
Chilly: Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.
Sully Shaheed: And, you know, like, Bettinger comes out like. You can't play. So that's going to be interesting.
Chilly: ah
Sully Shaheed: We're going to let him slide. We're going to let him slide. um I mean, speaking of expectations, again, before we get into the schedule and and name off the the winner. of You know what? let's Let's do that first. Let's do that first. And then we'll get into expectations.
Sully Shaheed: um So who has the best team name? In your opinion, who has the best team name?
Chilly: um so um I'm looking now at the at the schedule that we need to just absolutely tear into the ground, but... um
Sully Shaheed: Listen, before we tear the schedule apart, all right, I mean no harm to anybody that has done this schedule.
Chilly: ah
Sully Shaheed: Noah and any Jay, anybody that has contributed to the making of this schedule, I know how painstakingly annoying it is to make a schedule.
Chilly: Oh, it's terrible. It's terrible.
Sully Shaheed: But bad. It's bad. It's bad. But... it's bad
Chilly: what
Sully Shaheed: but
Chilly: the We'll get into that here in a second. All right.
Sully Shaheed: We'll get there, we'll get there.
Chilly: I mean,
Sully Shaheed: But let's keep positive for right now, let's keep positive.
Chilly: I mean, we could each go with our we should just go with our top three, and then we'll pick one.
Sully Shaheed: Who has the best team?
Chilly: so Oh, yours is already picked.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, mine's already picked. Mine's already picked. I rattled around in my head between several teams. So I will give you the top three, actually. So I was feeling, I was feeling somewhat, some chill squash.
Chilly: Okay.
Sully Shaheed: I was feeling some chill squash. uh um you know i i i got dirty in my mind and went with plan c uh that's the texas c1 team so plan c was hilarious in my mind and uh the i do believe it's a chicago d team um all smash no pass those are definitely my top three
Chilly: two Not the all pass.
Chilly: All smash, no pass.
Sully Shaheed: All smash, no pass.
Chilly: that is That is Chicago D1.
Sully Shaheed: So does that mean does that mean that team, Chicago D1, yes. So that means does that mean that team just like rips it like as soon as they get the ball? They've never seen a screenshot that they will not pass up on.
Sully Shaheed: Like there are no taking advantage of two-on-ones, like nothing.
Chilly: aye ah so i So my mind just went the dirty route.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, yes, it's supposed to go the dirty route. I think that's what they meant. However, could it be Whirly Ball related?
Chilly: that means That means they'd be banged. No, I'm not taking it Worley Ball related.
Sully Shaheed: No, not that.
Chilly: Not at all.
Sully Shaheed: No. Okay.
Chilly: No.
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: That means they'd be banging everybody out here.
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Sully Shaheed: All smash. No pass. yeah They're just like the Sonic. They're just like the Knuckles meme where like he's going through people and he's just like approved, ah approved, approved.
Sully Shaheed: That's that team.
Chilly: Approved. Yeah. They don't care. They give everybody love him.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, that should have been their team shirt.
Chilly: is Just knuckles.
Sully Shaheed: Just the Knuckles meme going approved. Just all smash.
Sully Shaheed: I swear to God, if that's their shirts, I'm losing it.
Chilly: Just has a line of women.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, just a line of women. i don't wait I need to find out who's on that roster because if there's a woman on that roster, I hope it's all dudes on her shirt.
Chilly: All smash, no pass.
Sully Shaheed: All smash. No bad.
Chilly: I'm probably going with All Smash, no Pass.
Sully Shaheed: I agree 100%. that is That is the best team name.
Chilly: I did...
Sully Shaheed: Congratulations.
Chilly: I did like the other one. I did like Plan c ah did I did like Chill Squatch.
Sully Shaheed: Fancy's hilarious.
Chilly: I did like Death by Taco.
Sully Shaheed: Yep, yep. Death by Taco was is another good one. Yep, yep.
Chilly: I did like Revival from Atlanta.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And it's got a subliminal message to it.
Chilly: So I...
Sully Shaheed: it's It's an extra meaning because the Atlanta boys are back. They're back, chill. And we're excited to have them back, just like the Miami boys. They're back.
Chilly: They're back. Outlaws is always going to be a classic.
Sully Shaheed: It's going to a...
Chilly: The Outlaws will always win the Vintage Award for Team Nave.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, yeah. Yeah. they They better have some hats for sale.
Chilly: Oh, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: You always got to cop an Outlaws hat.
Chilly: Always. Always.
Sully Shaheed: Always, always. So congratulations to all smash, no pass. You have won but best team name award. And again, if you see Sully at the bar, be sure to meet me and a drink is on your boy.
Sully Shaheed: Chill, you ready for this man? you ready You ready for this this schedule talk man?
Chilly: We're only bashing one day. Like, let's let's be let's be clear. We're really only bashing.
Sully Shaheed: We're only bashing Thursday?
Chilly: Yeah. Because it makes...
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: i mean, listen, they they could probably give me some written explanation on why it is the way it is. But it makes no sense.
Sully Shaheed: What?
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: What? So there's there's a block schedule. um those For those of you who haven't seen it, there is a nice little website that you can download the PDF version of this colorful beauty right here.
Sully Shaheed: um Thursday is F'd. um So, you know, from my personal standpoint, ah so the C block, well, one of the C blocks start promptly at 8 a.m. m um And guess what?
Sully Shaheed: One of my teammates is not even going to be in the state at that time. So already not playing with him. And then we go all the way down to a block where my personal ass game is at noon.
Sully Shaheed: And then my black ass has to be back at the center at 8.05 to play another set of games. So I am first on and last off on Thursday.
Chilly: Peace.
Sully Shaheed: Make that make sense, chill. Make it make sense. We are the first game on Thursday and the last game on Thursday.
Sully Shaheed: And yes, I am actually using my microphone now. So even when I get loud, it's going to sound just fine. so No one can bash me anymore about getting the hype.
Sully Shaheed: understand. It's a nice dichotomy between Chill and I that he's the calm one and I'm the fucking overhyped one. But guess what? I have a reason this time. How the fuck do you make a schedule that you look at and go, oh, this is fine, when one team is the first game on and the last game of the day?
Sully Shaheed: Make it make sense, Joe.
Chilly: I can't.
Sully Shaheed: Make it make sense.
Chilly: I can't.
Sully Shaheed: No, you can't.
Chilly: I can't. I just...
Sully Shaheed: ah you can't. That's weird. Who thought this and printed this and sent this to paper and was like, yeah, this is fine.
Chilly: I can't.
Chilly: Approved. okay
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, all proved. But, but, but, but, but Sully, you don't have to be back until 11 the next day. What the fuck? So that means first thing Thursday, I don't play at all Wednesday.
Sully Shaheed: At all. No games. No games. couldn't Couldn't move those up. No, no, no, no, no. No games Wednesday.
Chilly: but you know you wouldn't have you wouldn't have ricky on wednesday that's true
Sully Shaheed: And Thursday,
Sully Shaheed: I don't give a shit about having Ricky at all. let's make that Let's make that very clear. Okay? Like, as a boss and as a friend, we know that I love the guy.
Sully Shaheed: As a teammate, it's completely different.
Chilly: but comma
Sully Shaheed: But, comma, regardless if I wouldn't have a teammate or not, because, you know, you know are you know we we're taking Ty and we're going to be fine, right? Ty's going to play some C games. No big deal.
Sully Shaheed: But I got eight-hour gap in between the last games that I played, which means basically I get to go out and do nothing because right after that is the A block, which means my boys are still playing.
Sully Shaheed: So there's a little gap between B and when the D guys play, I need to bring my black ass back and finish off the night.
Sully Shaheed: And then be back at 11 the next day. And guess what, chill? That block's broken up too.
Chilly: Oh no.
Sully Shaheed: Because there's this little block right here and a little C.
Chilly: no
Sully Shaheed: There's little Cleveland C, right? There's that. And then we're all the way down here. So I gotta wait out the entirety of the A block just to finish up. And oh, oh, oh, guess who's the second game on, on Saturday.
Sully Shaheed: I'm damn near last off Friday, last off Thursday, first on Saturday.
Chilly: no no not this schedule At the schedule I'm looking at, i don't see you. On Saturday, you don't play until 1055. only have
Sully Shaheed: Wait, wait, wait. ah you ill I stand corrected. Wait, Saturday, Saturday. Yeah, you're right, you're right. So Saturday, I'll stop. My apologies about Saturday. I apologize.
Chilly: I mean...
Sully Shaheed: But those first two days are kind of fucked up, chill. So ah break it that break it down like a fraction.
Chilly: i only have a i mean I mean, like, Wednesday's cool. we we play against We play against two Seattle teams. That's cool. no no No qualms there.
Chilly: and Wait, is it two Seattle teams? We're full and four up. Yep. And then, um yeah, I just don't get what the breaking of the schedule, what the point is. Because, like, we have a four-hour gap or five-hour gap.
Chilly: now we'll We'll call it four. a little under four to we have a four hour gap and we play three more games. Why?
Chilly: What?
Sully Shaheed: it It doesn't, I mean, it beats an eight hour gap like me.
Chilly: It does. I just don't, I just, I just don't, I just don't get the logic with why can't we just play three more games and move everything down
Sully Shaheed: It does.
Chilly: And have it as a true block scheduling.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, this is not a true block schedule. It's all helter skelter. I don't understand how.
Chilly: And like, if you want if you want to if you want to break up the C guys, I get it. But why not just...
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, but even but even if you want to break us up, at least put us on a block. Put us all the way up top and don't have any like some some other C teams be done. And then the rest of the C guys that didn't play the early block can play the late block.
Chilly: Yeah, I...
Sully Shaheed: There is zero reason for my team to be first on and last off in the same day. Zero reason.
Chilly: I agree.
Chilly: i
Sully Shaheed: You're working me into a shoot, chill. little pissed off.
Chilly: not ah The Worleysters, I think, have the worldly sirs have the same thing.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, they're first on, last off?
Chilly: they are Not only are they first on and last off, they are they are first on last two games off.
Sully Shaheed: They sure are. Yeah, on one court, then they got to jettison to the other one.
Chilly: And then the one Seattle team plays three games in a row.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah. Yeah.
Chilly: But it looks like it looks like that that Seattle team doesn't play early.
Sully Shaheed: ah
Chilly: Or they play one game early. So one.
Sully Shaheed: I got nothing, man.
Chilly: So...
Sully Shaheed: ah got nothing.
Chilly: so so that So that one Seattle team looks like they only play one game early. And then they have to come back. They have to be there at night and play like.
Chilly: Yeah, so that that one Seattle team literally plays four games at night, but one game early.
Sully Shaheed: ah I mean, and again...
Chilly: Controversy. Controversy.
Sully Shaheed: controversy indeed. Again, I'm seeing on Friday, my last game in the afternoon, not last game. So no, there's a four hour gap between the last game in the afternoon.
Sully Shaheed: And then the next game, which is at three 50. And then, yeah, there's, there's an entire C block. So, I mean, I'm okay with that, but it would be different if you, a guys would just shift up and the C guys shift down and then just put them all together.
Sully Shaheed: because there's a four-hour gap between divisions.
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there may be some logic to it, but...
Sully Shaheed: That's crazy.
Sully Shaheed: And there may be some adjustments, so some of this may be mute. But, again, the biggest gripe. There's no way in any realm of possibility that a team should be first on last off.
Chilly: i
Sully Shaheed: Ever.
Chilly: What if you...
Sully Shaheed: When does that ever happen, Chill?
Chilly: it i don't know. It's probably it's probably happened before.
Sully Shaheed: And no one has bitched about it like me, apparently.
Chilly: Yeah, I just don't, uh, I just don't like sitting for four hours and then playing three games. But, okay.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, that's rough, that's rough. ah what ah What else do you have to bitch about the schedule, Chill, before I move on to some more positive stuff?
Chilly: I think everything else is fine. Like, for for a everything else is fine. um you know, there's, uh, The, you know, the unlimited teams get a practice game. That's cool.
Sully Shaheed: That's fine.
Chilly: Then we do the group picture.
Sully Shaheed: I don't.
Chilly: Then unlimited is cool. ah
Chilly: I mean, everything else is everything else is cool. I mean, as you can see there, we're running C and B playoffs first on Saturday.
Sully Shaheed: Yes, yes. Mm hmm.
Chilly: So that's cool. ah And then A and D playoffs on Sunday, which is cool. So oh no no, really, i might my biggest bitch is just Thursday.
Chilly: But whatever. That's how it goes. like it Like I said, I don't want to do the schedule, so if this is what I got to live with.
Sully Shaheed: like I don't want to do it.
Chilly: So, so be it.
Sully Shaheed: yeah
Chilly: ah You know, I
Sully Shaheed: You know That's fair. That's a fair point. Like, listen, I don't want to fucking do it either, but.
Chilly: it i mean, it is what it is. So, you know, only one Seattle team has to play after sitting for four hours.
Sully Shaheed: Hmm.
Chilly: Huh.
Sully Shaheed: Weird.
Chilly: Weird. Weird.
Sully Shaheed: Weird.
Chilly: Weird.
Sully Shaheed: Let's just so let's think about that for a second while we dwell.
Chilly: Yeah. yeah
Sully Shaheed: Hmm.
Chilly: oh
Sully Shaheed: Hmm. Who thought that was a good idea?
Chilly: Yeah, we have to play three games. Only one Seattle team out of the three has to play once.
Sully Shaheed: Anywho.
Chilly: Laser focused. After sitting for four hours, you too have to play one game. Actually, their sit is longer. They got to play at 8.30.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, Jesus.
Chilly: they got to play at eight thirty So they they literally will be sitting
Sully Shaheed: Well.
Chilly: five hours
Sully Shaheed: I got nothing. I got nothing. I'm gonna let it go. gonna let it go. gonna let it go. but's ah let's get to some Let's get to some fun fun fun topics.
Sully Shaheed: Fun topics. Let's do that. Oh, that's another thing I wanted to bring up. Do you think that if we wanted to recreate the name of another team, would we have to ask for copyright from that team?
Chilly: No, this is working.
Sully Shaheed: So, like, like let's say let's say I wanted to go into next year, regardless of division, regardless of team, and rename my team the flick of the wrist. Do I have to ask the Atlanta guys?
Chilly: No. No, you don't.
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: I mean, you could.
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: You could be courteous, right? But i'm pretty sure i'm I'm pretty sure people have accidentally taken other team names.
Sully Shaheed: Could be courteous. Or just do it.
Chilly: Pretty sure that's happening.
Sully Shaheed: New World Order. New World Order.
Chilly: we had it first We had it first in leaks.
Sully Shaheed: New World Order.
Chilly: I think.
Sully Shaheed: I don't know. Did the years sync up where they played it at Nationals? You guys played it in the leagues?
Chilly: think we had it first. I can't remember.
Sully Shaheed: Controversy.
Chilly: Controversy.
Sully Shaheed: Controversy. All right, anywho. I'm going to name off a couple teams in each division. And they're going to be...
Sully Shaheed: Well, I don't want to say like not favorited to win, but you know, any team can win any division at any time. So let me just preface that with that. But I'm going to name a couple of teams and I want you to give me the X factor of that team for the key to success for them potentially winning their division.
Sully Shaheed: Does that make sense? So going to name you team.
Chilly: oh
Sully Shaheed: Hopefully you remember some of the people on the roster.
Chilly: Oh God.
Sully Shaheed: And I'm going to ask you to give me their key to success. Okay? Are you ready?
Chilly: I'm ready.
Sully Shaheed: All right. Let's start in the D division where most of the unknowns happen.
Chilly: Oh God.
Sully Shaheed: Most of the unknowns happen. What is the key to success for the mixed D4 team, the Tri-City All-Stars, which features two members from Cleveland?
Chilly: ah the The key for them winning the D division is how well can they gel?
Sully Shaheed: What is their key to winning the D division?
Chilly: um You know, these are going to be five people who have never played together. These are five people that are going to get out there and going to have to figure it out during seating.
Sully Shaheed: Right, never.
Chilly: There's no practice time for these for these individuals. um Can they find some sort of, you know, what works for them? You know, who does what?
Chilly: um I mean, they do have a gill on the team, so probably just get that they probably get that guy the ball.
Sully Shaheed: Dude, have a go.
Chilly: um
Sully Shaheed: We don't know anything about this guy except his last name, chill.
Chilly: Just get that guy the ball. Let's just assume, right?
Sully Shaheed: Just give him the ball. Just give him the ball.
Chilly: Let's just assume, right? um
Sully Shaheed: Right, right, right.
Chilly: No, again here, it's how well can they gel? um When they hit a rough patch, will the team rise up? Or will they start getting mad at each other?
Sully Shaheed: All right.
Chilly: That team is a little bit on the younger side with some of their people.
Sully Shaheed: Yes, yes, yes.
Chilly: So will the maturity level, you know,
Sully Shaheed: Very young, very young.
Sully Shaheed: So would it be um advantageous to them to either like have a mentor as a coach? I don't know who's going to coach that team. Maybe it's Mr. Gill. Maybe it's someone else that wants to get involved with this team.
Sully Shaheed: But would it behoove them to actually like meet before seating and sit down and talk before you get on the court?
Chilly: well ah Well, when one of their teammates is missing their first two games on Wednesday, that doesn't help.
Sully Shaheed: Let's dwell on that as well.
Chilly: Shout out to the...
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, i guess that is a ah I guess that is a detriment to the gelling of the team now, isn't it?
Chilly: That is a detriment. I mean, I'm trying to get the games moved. If possible.
Sully Shaheed: Right, right. I mean, it's the same for us. Like I said, Rick and Sean Morad are on that same flight. So.
Chilly: They are. We apologize on behalf of the Morads for coming in on Thursday.
Sully Shaheed: Right, right, right.
Chilly: Take. at
Sully Shaheed: No, don't need no damn apologize. Fucking get in on Wednesday. i just want to save a couple of bucks, you know, and I have to stay that extra night at the hotel.
Chilly: take
Chilly: rick rick ricke Rick be struggling.
Sully Shaheed: blah ah
Chilly: Rick be struggling for money. He'd be struggling.
Sully Shaheed: o Oh, my God. god What are you talking about?
Chilly: life
Sully Shaheed: You're struggling for Ricky. Okay.
Chilly: it
Sully Shaheed: You're right. You're right. My bad. I didn't know he was going through it. My bad.
Chilly: He sold the center for pennies on a dollar.
Sully Shaheed: Pennies on the dollar.
Chilly: The dollar.
Sully Shaheed: The dollar. All right. Well, let's move on. I'm give you two teams from the C division.
Chilly: All right.
Sully Shaheed: Their keys to success. How can this team. Win a C banner for their center. Chili, I give you Chicago C2.
Sully Shaheed: Franken beans. How are they going to win C?
Chilly: I'm going to need the roster for that one.
Sully Shaheed: Keys to victory.
Sully Shaheed: Bring up the roster while I give you the second one I want you to comment on. And that is... You know the roster of this team, the Cleveland Steamers.
Sully Shaheed: How can the Cleveland Steamers win the C division?
Chilly: All right, as I'm bringing up the roster, so bear with me here for Franks and Beans. But the Steamers, oh, the Steamers, the team that I'm coaching. Yeah,
Sully Shaheed: Well, yeah, I mean, you got to give us the insider information, you know?
Chilly: yeah yeah right.
Sully Shaheed: You got to give us that. You got to give us the juice. You got to give us the sauce.
Chilly: Not the juice. I got to fix my shame right here for a second.
Sully Shaheed: I need the sauce. I need the juice. i need all that.
Chilly: I got fix my camera. All right, so the team i mean the team that I'm coaching, you know, can their coach get them ready to play?
Chilly: It's not me. know No, I think they're keys to success.
Sully Shaheed: a
Chilly: It's going to be a couple different things, right? um they They need to limit their turnovers.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Chilly: I think they they they do have a tendency for for turnovers. They do have a, ah so again, turnovers, up rebounds.
Chilly: I think we both can agree.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, man. Yeah, they they are a piss-poor rebounding team. and That is true.
Chilly: i mean I mean, theirre their rebounding ability is a little, we'll call it sketch. um
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Chilly: Like, I mean, that could be any team. And, yeah. and you know at the end of the day, can they, can they come together? Can, uh, there are two people on that team that do have a little, uh, they do have a little friendly banner back and forth trying to fit.
Chilly: So can those two keep it under wraps and get, be friends. Um, and then, you know, for them, you know, can they put ball bucket?
Chilly: You gotta be able to put ball and bucket.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: I mean, they're a solid defensive team. Um, But, you know, can they, can they, can the offense get clicking? So, turnovers, rebounds, ball and bucket.
Chilly: That would be my keys to success for for them. So, I'm still trying to.
Sully Shaheed: and Okay, okay. And how are you feeling about Franken beans, a Chicago two? Because they have to go against a favorited Chicago team who's apparently going to go undefeated.
Chilly: I'm.
Sully Shaheed: So they have to beat them at minimum. How do they beat them?
Chilly: So this is the...
Sully Shaheed: Or should the entire C division just quit because another team is going to run the train anyway.
Chilly: This is...
Sully Shaheed: So like, why are we even going? Should I cancel my flight now?
Chilly: don't cancel your flight, because there's a lot of pressure. that's ah that's ah That's a lot of pressure on them. I am just looking for the roster.
Chilly: you apologize to Franks and Beans? Because I don't fucking know. Alright, so...
Sully Shaheed: I mean, we don't know rosters off the top of our head, you know, so it's okay to they go on the old Facebook.
Chilly: All right, so so this looks like the team that does have the the women of Chicago on it.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Chilly: Their keys to success. All right, let's take a look. ah So I think for them, it's going to kind of be the same thing for the Steamers. They're going to need to limit their turnovers. ah They're going to need to be able to put ball in buckets.
Chilly: um Again, they got they do... Let's take a look here.
Sully Shaheed: I need an X factor chill. i need I need some, who, who, who is going to put the ball in the bucket? Who should be, who who, who should we be weary of on this team? That's going to put the team on a back for the squad.
Chilly: Who's going to put the team on their back?
Sully Shaheed: Who's going to do it?
Chilly: Well, I know...
Sully Shaheed: Because again, it's the it's the wonderful women of Chicago.
Chilly: Well, Well, know Sarah Doherty is the best Doherty in the house, in their household.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, that's not even a competition.
Chilly: Yeah, so I do know that. i mean, but her husband's going to go undefeated and see, so I don't know how that's going to play. His ass will be...
Sully Shaheed: That's a weird dichotomy, isn't it?
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Like something's got to give, right?
Chilly: Something's got to give.
Sully Shaheed: Something's got to give.
Chilly: Or... da Something's got to give. Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Huh.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: Yeah. ah let's let's just Let's just make Sarah Doherty the X Factor.
Sully Shaheed: Okay. right. All right.
Chilly: let's let's make her Let's make her the X Factor here. But no, I mean,
Sully Shaheed: She is coming off a ah championship last year, right?
Chilly: de she is. She is.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, so there's some championship pedigree being added to the squad. So yeah, I like that answer as an X factor. like that. I can definitely get behind that.
Sully Shaheed: I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. You are whipping that camera's ass, you good? All
Chilly: i'm a I'm doing some things. I'm doing some things here.
Sully Shaheed: right, fair, fair.
Sully Shaheed: Okay, well, Sarah Doherty, X Factor, Frank and fraing Beans, can they take it home? Moving on to the B division, four Seattle teams.
Chilly: Who's your... Hey, for you, who's your steamer's X-Factor?
Sully Shaheed: The Steamers?
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, it's it's Josh. He'll shoot you in or shoot you out. Period.
Chilly: Do people know Josh?
Sully Shaheed: If you can line them up in the middle of the court, drain them.
Chilly: I wonder if people in the community, do they know Josh Hirschman?
Sully Shaheed: ah they do they know now because I mean you know every team stinks so no matter what team you post your team stinks so I mean you know but they don't know about Josh they're gonna learn today so but no I mean you know if they can rotate well I think they'll be well off and again like you said they give up a lot of second chance points you know because they're piss poor rebounders they stink at it but if
Chilly: there's no there's There's no Dennis Rodman on that team.
Sully Shaheed: No, no, they they cannot rebound a fucking, no, they they suck at rebounding. um But other than that, I mean, again, Josh shoot you in or shoot you out. 100%. He's the C division Chris Flores.
Sully Shaheed: Listen, he's going to put the team on his back and shoot you in or shoot you out.
Chilly: How can you? How can you? How can
Sully Shaheed: He is the reason you lost or you won. It's him.
Chilly: you?
Sully Shaheed: Period. Period.
Chilly: and did
Sully Shaheed: You like that one? That's Josh Flores right there.
Chilly: Josh Flores.
Chilly: Oh my god. Does he even know it?
Sully Shaheed: I'm glad you appreciated that one.
Chilly: Can he even speak Spanish?
Sully Shaheed: I highly doubt that.
Chilly: Same.
Sully Shaheed: highly doubt it, but.
Chilly: Fucking same.
Sully Shaheed: I don't know. There's not a lot of all or nothing players in Whirly Ball, right? Like. I mean, Flores stands out as he's shooting you in or shooting you out.
Sully Shaheed: That's the guy, right? Can we think of any other examples like that?
Chilly: I think back in the day, you know, a couple years ago, you'd probably say, Timmy would shoot you in or shoot you out.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, yeah, that's another good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chilly: but For sure.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, Timmy's up there. Yeah. Huh. We'll roll that we're all that in around in our head.
Chilly: Uh...
Sully Shaheed: But, again, the division. um Four Seattle teams that you have to deal with. With ah Miami, Chicago, and Texas being the other three representatives. um As far as May 26th, I don't know the fifth member of that Texas team.
Sully Shaheed: So, did any updates on that? Because I offered. I offered, but I didn't hear anything back. I'm take my offer back.
Chilly: um Not that I know of.
Sully Shaheed: So I won't ask about that team, but I will ask you about the Miami Outlaws.
Chilly: The Outlaws. Dolly!
Sully Shaheed: Their return to the game.
Sully Shaheed: Dale!
Chilly: Dolly!
Sully Shaheed: For the key, key, for the key!
Chilly: the key! For the key!
Sully Shaheed: For key, for the key!
Chilly: What? but key
Sully Shaheed: And you know the members of that team. So what is the X factor? What is the keys to victory? How can Miami take home a B banner this year?
Chilly: How well does Nanshut not playing?
Chilly: He is one of the... he I mean, obviously, he's one of the best shots on Worley Ball. he's got ah He's got a great shot.
Chilly: How long will it take him to knock off the rust? Can he knock off the rust?
Sully Shaheed: Right.
Chilly: You know, so, and then obviously with them, uh, driving will be a little bit tough. Uh, again, it's just, yeah, especially they're still playing with Carl, right? Too.
Sully Shaheed: Yes.
Chilly: Yeah. So, um, Ben Hanna will be a huge help to them. Um, so, but it's going to be how well can, how well can man shoot and, uh,
Chilly: And what that looks like. So it'll be cool to watch. But,
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, they're always a good breed Worley Ball, that's for sure.
Chilly: yeah. So how well can Nance shoot? And then ah can they play just about this much of defense?
Sully Shaheed: Oh, just a modicum of defense is all they need.
Chilly: Just, yeah. Yeah, just a little bit. just Just a little bit.
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: You getting a dab?
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: Dap up?
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I had to dab up girl. What are you wanting to do
Chilly: Dap up? Yeah, can they play about can they play defense for a couple possessions?
Sully Shaheed: Dab her up.
Chilly: A couple.
Sully Shaheed: Okay, just a couple and just give Nan at the top of the key because you know he ain't playing no defense.
Chilly: Just a couple. Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: So get that out of your brain.
Chilly: No. No.
Sully Shaheed: Get that out of your head right now.
Chilly: So Nat can fall into that.
Sully Shaheed: and Okay, okay.
Chilly: I'm going to shoot you in, I'm going to shoot you out.
Sully Shaheed: I was gonna say, i think he falls in that category.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: I'm shooting you in or shooting you out. Simple as that.
Chilly: you You may have a teammate that's similar. What?
Chilly: yeah it
Sully Shaheed: Billy. there's a There's a phrase at the center and it's called Billy Ball.
Sully Shaheed: Billy will shoot you in or shoot you right the fuck out of a game. We've lost plenty of games because of that man. We've also won plenty of games because of that man.
Chilly: it's got to be ah It's got to be in the name, right? Billy?
Sully Shaheed: Yes, it it's got to be a Billy thing, right?
Chilly: It's got to be a Billy thing, right?
Sully Shaheed: like you I mean, you've practiced with us for the past five months. How many times have I been coming down as the fourth guy with the entire side of the court to myself and demanding the ball, waving there with my fucking nutsack out of the damn cart, and this dude is shooting between five scoops instead of just, here you go.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, you're wide open? That's cool.
Chilly: But Sully, he had a window.
Sully Shaheed: No.
Sully Shaheed: But Sully, he had a window.
Chilly: it
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: yeah
Sully Shaheed: All
Chilly: oh
Sully Shaheed: right.
Chilly: Or when or when he gets blocked when he gets blocked, it's because they're extending.
Sully Shaheed: Let me give you two eight. Go ahead.
Sully Shaheed: Extension.
Chilly: We're extending.
Sully Shaheed: Extension.
Chilly: works
Sully Shaheed: Him or Ricky. Him and Ricky. You blocked, you extend it.
Chilly: They sound like the rest of the country. They're extending.
Sully Shaheed: Did he call it?
Chilly: we're not going to act like We're not going to act like Clint Fisher or Driscoll don't stand about 10 feet out their car.
Sully Shaheed: Driscoll don't know what the seat is.
Sully Shaheed: Like, that seat is there for show.
Chilly: i'll stop it I'll stop extending what we call offensive extension.
Sully Shaheed: That dude is always extending.
Sully Shaheed: Listen, if I'm reffing any Michigan game and Kalen shoots, I'm calling offensive extension. He's got the biggest jump shot in whirly ball. Why your ass got to lead a seat every time you shoot?
Chilly: Hey man, leave your cousin alone.
Sully Shaheed: Why? and Why?
Chilly: All right.
Sully Shaheed: Tell me. Explain.
Chilly: and man leave your leave your cousin alone
Sully Shaheed: That's my family, so I get to talk about them. If there's anybody that gets to talk shit about Austin and Kalen, it's me. Okay?
Chilly: hey
Sully Shaheed: Jump shooting ass motherfucker. I'm going give you two A-teams, chill.
Chilly: all right
Sully Shaheed: And I need a way they can win A. I need to know. How can,
Sully Shaheed: how can the Atlanta revival win A?
Chilly: ah The way they can win A, um Jacob is going to have to play well. um His first year in A, playing in probably one of the toughest environments to play in.
Chilly: um Going to Seattle um Can he do enough I mean obviously the other four are really good With with Kyle Mears Batanya and Beckett um
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Chilly: But They can't make up for him In A It's just hard So again and again without They don't have a center either So the they will come in with some You know, some rust, but the though they'll they'll get rid of it pretty quick in driving. So, um yeah, I think it's going to kind of just hinge on Jacob. I mean, we obviously know they got a lot of guys who could put ball in bucket.
Chilly: mere You know, Mears is obviously going to be really good driving those cars.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, yeah.
Chilly: They're going a really good team. um But it's really going to just kind ah fall on, you know, can Jacob give them enough? you know that they need to to get them over the hill.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I like that answer. That's really good. That's really good. um How can
Sully Shaheed: the New World Order win A? I'm putting it your hands now.
Chilly: <unk> it
Sully Shaheed: How can your team win a
Chilly: How can we win a Well, I think we need to be a little bit taller on defense. We're pretty short back there. um it
Sully Shaheed: ah you you want to A? You want to talk to me about that height thing on defense? Can you elaborate
Chilly: Yeah.
Chilly: No, but...
Sully Shaheed: you got a but You got a bunch of Jay Fannyas back there on defense.
Chilly: je
Sully Shaheed: little little Little tiny guys with weapons in their pocket, apparently.
Chilly: Yeah. Yeah. I think think Patrick and and... He's got a knife. He's from Jersey. He's got knife.
Sully Shaheed: He's from Jersey.
Chilly: Jersey.
Sully Shaheed: He's got a knife.
Chilly: Jersey Shore.
Sully Shaheed: Jersey.
Chilly: ah No, but seriously. ah ah For us, it's just going to probably, you know, just do the little things. You know, transition will always always be key.
Chilly: um You know, wall, you know, wall be key. Driving will be big there. You know, we won't have as much of a driving,
Chilly: disadvantage as most of the other centers. I mean, we will, because Seattle, obviously, it's still Seattle and it's their cars. um
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, just minor adjustment, yeah.
Chilly: Yeah, and I mean, you know, all of us, all of us can put ball in bucket.
Sully Shaheed: Well, minor, minor. Yeah.
Chilly: um You know, can we can we just catch back up to the speed of the speed of the game for A? um And then, you know, it'd be good, you know, just basically do the little things, you know, cover that and try not to get walled in our key and,
Sully Shaheed: Brother.
Chilly: you know, let's, you know, but, ah you know, it's going to be good, you know, just rotating quick, transitioning quick, keep the court awareness high, football and bucket, you know, so, you know, can the other, can the other shooters carry as well, you know,
Sully Shaheed: Don't bring up those repressed memories.
Sully Shaheed: Good.
Chilly: So it'll be fun.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, absolutely. It'll be fun. That's all that matters at the end of the day, Chill, is that we have fun, right? We're here to have fun. We're here to have fun. I have to keep reminding myself, even though i'm the first game on, the last game off on a fucking day, but I'm here to have fun, right? We're here to have fucking fun.
Sully Shaheed: Sorry. It's a lot of censors. I gotta make sure that don't curse that much.
Chilly: we're the mean We're the mean edition. We don't have centers.
Sully Shaheed: You're fuck right. You're right. Chill, I think we need a quick recap. Because if you didn't tune into the last episode, you may and may not have heard me because of my microphone issues.
Chilly: Thank you.
Sully Shaheed: However, they've been rectified. and think we need a recap of who we chose to win every division real quick before we get into the last controversial topic of the day, which will be a quick one. It's more of opinionated one, but a quick one.
Sully Shaheed: But we need to recap the winners of each division. Who do you got in D? Got D3, Seattle Team Orange. Only stands, Seattle D2, D1. The average shows that Tri-City All-Stars team, the winners of the name game of the team name, all smashed, no pass from Chicago.
Sully Shaheed: And Wiffle Stompers, Texas D1, who are you taking?
Chilly: I went with the Tri-City.
Chilly: went with the Mixed Molk team. I went with our boys. and hot
Sully Shaheed: I'm in lockstep with you. I'm in lockstep. We're going to go put on the books. We're going to bet the Tri-City All-Stars to take D. NC, of course, Chicago represented by who's going to sweep the entire tournament anyway, Death by Taco, Franken-Beans.
Chilly: That's what I heard.
Sully Shaheed: Right, we don't even need to name off the rest of the teams, right? We can just move on to B.
Chilly: Allegedly.
Sully Shaheed: right, for for for argument's sake,
Chilly: Allegedly.
Sully Shaheed: Frank and Beans, the women, and I think Dalton's on that team, right? Is he re easy rolling with them again?
Chilly: no no No, he's with the Seattle team.
Sully Shaheed: Or he's rolling Seattle?
Chilly: Yes, sir.
Sully Shaheed: Seattle team. Okay, right, right, right, right.
Chilly: Yep.
Sully Shaheed: ah We got the two Seattle teams, the Untouchables, the Narwhals. Of course, two Cleveland representatives, Cleveland Seat, classic. Cleveland Steamers.
Sully Shaheed: From Minnesota, you got the mean things. I'm sorry, from Michigan, you got the mean things. And from Minnesota, of course, Chef Luke and the Whirly Sirs. Who you taking and see?
Chilly: So I believe for this one, I picked a Chicago-Cleveland final. I'm
Sully Shaheed: You did, yes, you did. But who's taking the gold?
Chilly: taking the gold. ah um the oddest I'll just be a homer here.
Sully Shaheed: Who's bringing the banner? Who's bringing the banner?
Chilly: I believe one of the Cleveland C teams is bringing it home.
Sully Shaheed: Nothing wrong with being a homer, chill. There's nothing wrong with being a homer.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Because again, once again, we are in lockstep. And of course, i am taking my own goddamn team, the retrofitted Cleveland Seat. Because, you know, I got 80 plus years of experience on my team, man.
Sully Shaheed: You can't beat that. Between two players.
Sully Shaheed: Don't forget that.
Chilly: We have a combined age of more than 120.
Sully Shaheed: The B team, Seattle sending four. Lazy Sunday, Wu Crane Clan, Chill Squatch, Stick Jockeys, and Miami bringing the outlaws back. Manoworld from Chicago, and the A team is actually AB team from Texas.
Sully Shaheed: Who you got? Who's taking B? Who's taking the banner?
Chilly: Who's taking the banner?
Sully Shaheed: Who's taking the banner?
Chilly: Who's taking the banner? i believe with this one, I did i roll? i think this one, I did go with the B3. So would have been Justin DeWitt, Kiefer, Vaughn, Gage, and Stan.
Chilly: i believe they will...
Sully Shaheed: Stand.
Chilly: I just kicked Stan.
Sully Shaheed: Just kick stand.
Chilly: I believe in the finals they would be playing against the B2 team with Steve Vogt, Jeff Jackson, Brandon Stewart, Adam Miller, and Sean Etchison. I believe is what I picked.
Sully Shaheed: Who's winning it?
Chilly: I'll go with DeWitt, Kiefer, Vaughn, Gage, and I just kickstand.
Sully Shaheed: Chili, we have to stop agreeing on things because I, too, am selecting Chill Squatch. So we're moving over to A, representing Seattle sitting three teams, the Ripple Effect, four up, laser focused, Michigan, 3-1-3, and the crash outs.
Sully Shaheed: Of course, your team, the New World Order, Atlanta bringing back the revival, Spare Parts from Texas, ah what an apropos name, right? And Blood in the Water from... Chicago making their A debut.
Sully Shaheed: Who's taking a Chile. Well,
Chilly: um So this one, taking us out of it, because I did take us out of it, I went with...
Sully Shaheed: ah you're playing.
Chilly: I did, i did. So, I know, but still...
Sully Shaheed: i mean, you're in.
Chilly: I'll take us out of it. i So this one, I believe, I had a Joe Tiffany... Joe Tiffany's team against the other Michigan team, which is Doug, Zach, your cousins, and Ben Heisel.
Chilly: I believe was my final.
Sully Shaheed: It's a good team. It's good fucking team.
Chilly: And then if the whole the homework the homer pick in me said we'll be playing Joe Tiffany's team in the final.
Sully Shaheed: They're all good teams. They're all good teams. all good teams.
Sully Shaheed: There's nothing with the homer pick. Ever. Ever. And again, i mean, I'm representing whoever Rafael is representing because this man always freaking wins A's somehow.
Chilly: Okay.
Sully Shaheed: So whatever team Rafael is on, that's who I'm taking.
Chilly: no
Sully Shaheed: It's Rafael's team.
Chilly: it's rough used
Sully Shaheed: It's Raphael's team. So I'm just going to go with Raphael on this one.
Chilly: I mean, Raphael is actually on Noah's team, and they they got they got some bum-ass guy named James Gill.
Sully Shaheed: Wherever he's playing, he's winning.
Sully Shaheed: Oh.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: About that.
Chilly: James is playing on Noah and Raphael's team. They could be co-captains.
Sully Shaheed: That's fine. As long as James Gill knows his role is Raphael's team.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: All right.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Play the background. All right. Congratulations to the Hall of Fame. Being the greatest of all time. Whatever. It's 2025. And it's Rafael Steve.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Fucking deal with it.
Sully Shaheed: I like all those selections. Speaking of Hall of Fame, chill. I think we got a quick take on um how we feel about... a certain inclusion and exclusion of the Wollie Ball Hall of Fame.
Chilly: Hmm.
Sully Shaheed: As I do believe every year we nominate, or not nominate, but ah send in a new member of the Hall of Fame. And for years, there's been a controversial one in the Hall of Fame. ah You want to break that down for me?
Chilly: I mean, like, we don't have enough time to really get into my true truth thoughts and feelings on this. um
Sully Shaheed: It can be the the the linchpin for another podcast. So when we return from Nationals, yeah, we will return from Nationals with fresh thoughts, recaps, and more controversy we can stir up because we got to keep this thing going.
Chilly: Oh, it's i think it's... I think it's definitely the linchpin, but...
Chilly: i just I just don't. I think the Hall of Fame needs to be reworked. I don't have a problem with anybody who's in the Hall of Fame, like so don't get that twisted. think everybody's worthy of being in there except for one person, and it's actually from our center.
Chilly: so that that's
Sully Shaheed: Thank you.
Chilly: so But I just don't agree with the way it's set up. I don't agree with how it's voted. Yeah. You're basically telling me if nobody knows anything about Whirly Ball and they just look at the Hall of Fame, you would just think it was full of... You would just think it's Seattle and Michigan players playing in it.
Chilly: Are we going to act like that no nobody from Texas belongs in the Hall of Fame? Are act like nobody from Atlanta belongs in the Hall of Fame? I mean, we we certainly have a lot of better older players back in the day who who helped Michigan get their start.
Chilly: We're going to act like they... They don't belong.
Chilly: um we Again, I'm not taking a shot at this, but like we created they all suddenly created the Lifetime Achievement Award. There are people that get that award.
Chilly: There are people that definitely get that award in the Hall of Fame. But, I mean, again, here, I'll just say it. are Are we going to act like that Billy O doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame?
Sully Shaheed: You get no qualms from me, sir.
Chilly: Regardless if he's my dad or not, like, are we going to really act like that dude doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame? Really?
Sully Shaheed: My dad, bro, my dad.
Chilly: Really? Really. i mean, again, we're going to watch another Seattle or Michigan player go into the Hall of Fame. We're going to act like pet like Gary from Texas doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame?
Chilly: We're
Sully Shaheed: That's another good one.
Chilly: going act like Brad Battenia, who was Atlanta's, like, best player for however the fuck long?
Sully Shaheed: God knows how long, right?
Chilly: Does it belong in the Hall of Fame? Like, we're telling the history of Worley Ball without people from Texas, Atlanta, Cleveland, eventually Chicago.
Sully Shaheed: Sure.
Chilly: It's just Seattle, Michigan players. it Again, the way the way it's done.
Sully Shaheed: There's a sprinkle of Cleveland. There's Ricky and Junior, which you know we that's who you were alluding to.
Chilly: Again,
Sully Shaheed: let's Let's just rip the Band-Aid off.
Chilly: yeah. Yeah, junior won Hall of Fame, 100%.
Sully Shaheed: Junior does not belong in the Hall of Fame. He's done absolutely nothing to deserve that.
Chilly: ah hundred percent
Sully Shaheed: He was just old. And that's why you put him in. He did nothing for the sport.
Chilly: That's why riy Ricky, Ricky.
Sully Shaheed: He did nothing to operate it. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Chilly: Yeah. Ricky, Ricky, he is Rick's cousin.
Sully Shaheed: He was old.
Sully Shaheed: Yep, that's it. And Ricky is a Hall of Famer for business reasons.
Chilly: He. Correct.
Sully Shaheed: And, you know, there's some player accolades as well. But Junior, no effing way.
Chilly: Junior, Junior, Junior should have the Lifetime Achievement Award.
Sully Shaheed: You're away. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Without question. If you've been playing the game for X amount of years, that is an award that you deserve.
Chilly: So.
Sully Shaheed: Period. You know, Dave got it.
Chilly: Period.
Sully Shaheed: Little Dave got it last year. He deserved it.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: You know, and and recognizing him is perfect.
Chilly: but But also for Dave, but also like little Dave plays the game for fun.
Sully Shaheed: He does.
Chilly: He does.
Sully Shaheed: And he has a lot of fun playing it.
Chilly: And he has a lot of fun playing it. And that man and the biggest smile playing it. And that's great. There are people that should get that award. I mean, there are people that went into the Hall of Fame that didn't give a fuck they were going to the Hall of Fame.
Sully Shaheed: Hmm.
Chilly: like We're voting in current players,
Sully Shaheed: Yes.
Chilly: which which which is great, but if we're voting in current players, why shouldn't the current players not have a vote?
Chilly: Or why should not representatives don't have a vote? You mean to tell me people in the Hall of Fame know what these people are actually doing and playing?
Sully Shaheed: Right. Right.
Chilly: So do we want to take a guess on who may go into the Hall of Fame this year?
Sully Shaheed: Insert Seattle player here.
Chilly: Yeah, I would assume it's Joe Tiffany, right?
Sully Shaheed: i mean, if Jeremy got in last year, it's gotta to be Joe Tiffany at this point, right?
Chilly: I would think so. and Unless there's some seattle ah Seattle fucking Luminati that's keeping them out.
Sully Shaheed: The Illuminati.
Chilly: But, like, again, we're going to sit here and act like some like a Texas player.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: Like I said, how is Gary not on the Hall of Fame? After all the shit he's done for the game? Are you fucking kidding me?
Chilly: Again, man. like
Sully Shaheed: yeah
Chilly: Again. What? It's just it is bullshit. it's justs all It's all pure bullshit. The way it's done is bullshit.
Chilly: like It is what it is.
Sully Shaheed: It's another thing in Whirly Ball, just like a limited, that we're going to have to reevaluate. I mean, like, I feel. You know, and and and it's a great time to do it because as the sport grows, like, the amount of change that we've occurred or incurred from like just seven or eight years ago, you know, with the live streaming, with with podcasting, with different centers opening, ah different opportunities to go to nationals through a different center. Like we're going to be in Minnesota one year and that's cool.
Sully Shaheed: You know, like as we grow as a community in all these different avenues, I feel like the integrity of the game and things that are attached to it need to be evaluated as well.
Sully Shaheed: So Unlimited was one of them.
Chilly: Yeah, so like...
Sully Shaheed: The Hall of Fame is another one.
Chilly: Yeah, and again, like...
Sully Shaheed: Let's do it.
Chilly: Again here, you don't need to win the biggest prize in your sport to be in the Hall of Fame. We can name X amount of athletes who never won the Super Bowl, and NBA championship.
Sully Shaheed: oh Sure, yeah, of course.
Chilly: So, again, is But they're in the Hall of Fame.
Sully Shaheed: But they're in the Hall of Fame.
Chilly: It shouldn't a requirement. I get it. Seattle and Michigan... Often will have the best players. I get it. Or that's at least how it was in the past.
Chilly: I get it. But again, it's not like the NFL when they're voting for the Hall of Fame is like, well, I guess we're just going to put in the entire Kansas City Chiefs.
Sully Shaheed: Right. I mean, there's a prerequisite for the NFL. You got to be gone out the sport for five years before you even think about you.
Chilly: Yeah. Right. So...
Sully Shaheed: We're putting people in the hall of fame in their prime.
Chilly: Literally in their prime.
Sully Shaheed: In their prime. They're going into the hall of fame. That, Tell me the logic behind that. Like, let's put Patrick Mahomes in the Hall of Fame right now. Actually, let's do it three seasons ago, even though he's just entering his prime.
Chilly: Literally.
Sully Shaheed: That's what Worley Ball does.
Chilly: Yep. Yeah. Like I said, the system's broke.
Sully Shaheed: Make it make sense.
Chilly: The system's broke. I don't want to take away anything. Again, everybody who's in the Hall of Fame belongs there, minus who we discussed earlier.
Sully Shaheed: Stans Jr.
Chilly: ye But again here, the the way it's voted and again, you know, it's, it's just the good old boy system. You know, if you're not part of the group, you're not in.
Chilly: If literally, if you're not part of the group, you're, you're, you're not in.
Sully Shaheed: Fair.
Chilly: So again, if anybody wants, if anybody in the hall of fame wants to come up to me and have an honest discussion about it, come find me.
Sully Shaheed: Facts.
Chilly: But like,
Sully Shaheed: facts And you'd be wrong.
Chilly: I can't tell you the number of Seattle players and people in general who thought Billy was already in the Hall of Fame.
Chilly: And you would be wrong.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, Lord. Well, before we get fired up for another 45 minutes, I think, again, that deserves an honest discussion on a different version of our podcast. ah Probably post-nationals.
Sully Shaheed: We can bring some stuff like that up so we can just go on and on and on and on and on about it because we totally can. But you and I have been conversing for about an hour or so. I think that's going to provide enough in-flight entertainment for those with shorter flights.
Sully Shaheed: Not for us because our flight is five hours. So... um Might have to listen to several different podcasts on the way, but um I hope that we have a fun, safe,
Sully Shaheed: trip to Seattle, a, a, an enjoyable time at nationals. Um, those are competing. We wish you all the best of luck unless you're not on my team. Then fuck the rest of you. Actually, I don't really care.
Sully Shaheed: No, but it not seriously, but I look forward to seeing everybody and, uh, just having a good time in Seattle. Uh, chill. Any closing thoughts before we go ahead and get on up out of here?
Chilly: Oh, excuse me. Um, everybody safe travels. Uh, so again here, man, safe travels from wherever you're traveling from, however you're traveling. If you're doing, you know, plane, car, train, if you're local, even if you're local, safe travels, um,
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, cuz you know it's out of towners don't know how to drive. So we're, you might get hit on the sidewalk.
Chilly: facts uh right i since this is memorial day again thank you for those who have served thank you for your service um again if you're having a cookout today have fun eat a lot of food enjoy your families your friends uh but again man safe travels for everybody going to seattle can't wait to see y'all we love y'all and uh we'll see you soon
Sully Shaheed: Yes,
Sully Shaheed: yes, 100%. Yes. hundred
Sully Shaheed: yeah
Sully Shaheed: Hell yeah. And on that note, we're going to close it up and, uh, nationals time. It's almost here. Two days. Let's get it.
Chilly: Peace.
Sully Shaheed: See you then.
