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What in the Whirl: East Edition: What is this SCHEDULE?!?!?
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In this episode of What in the Whirl: East Edition, we’re diving deep into the Nationals preview with a spotlight on each division's biggest X factors and the crucial keys to winning it all. Who's primed to rise? Who needs a miracle? Also, a giant rant about the controversial schedule. We break it all down. Plus, a quick but pointed conversation about the current state of the Hall of Fame — who's in, who's out, and what it says about the game today. Tune in for sharp takes, solid analysis, and a little East Coast flair.
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Transcript
Introduction and Memorial Day Context
00:00:01
Sully Shaheed
It is officially national season, and by request of Josh Hirschman, Hirschsmith, Hirschmeyer, what's his last name, Joe?
00:00:08
Chilly
the Hirschman, the Hirschman,
00:00:09
Sully Shaheed
Hirschman? We need some in-flight entertainment for the upcoming national tournament, which is in two days. We are recording this on Memorial Day, and I think it's time for me and Joe to talk the old whirly ball one last time before nationals.
00:00:24
Sully Shaheed
So here we go.
00:00:43
Sully Shaheed
And welcome in to what in the world East edition, the real edition, the, the not so nice edition, the, the edition that people flame me on other podcasts because I make takes that are bold and say things that people aren't willing to say, but we're here chill.
Excitement for Nationals
00:01:01
Sully Shaheed
It's two days before nationals.
00:01:01
Chilly
We are here.
00:01:02
Sully Shaheed
It is, it is almost that time, man. Are we, uh, are we excited or are we excited?
00:01:08
Chilly
i mean, I'm excited. I'm not excited for this, you know, four-hour plane ride, but, you know, we're here. we'll ah We'll live with it and get ready to dive on into some Nationals takes and we'll go from there.
00:01:24
Sully Shaheed
That's it, man. So if you guys don't know, I am your host, Sully Ali Shahid. I am joined, of course, by my main my main man, chill man, who is representing the New World Order in the A division this year, as I am representing the classic, the throwback, Cleveland C.
00:01:41
Sully Shaheed
Ordered the shirt straight from Amazon.com. Two-day shipping arrived here fresh and-
00:01:47
Chilly
You got that pride. You got that pride.
00:01:50
Sully Shaheed
Oh, you already know I got that prime.
00:01:51
Chilly
That's hilarious.
00:01:52
Sully Shaheed
Come on, baby. Come on. I'm going to order them for $15 and I'm to sell them for $20 at the center. Watch. Make my profit. You know what i'm saying? But ah before we get into anything chill, it is Memorial Day.
00:02:03
Chilly
that's hilar
00:02:05
Sully Shaheed
So as we honor ah honor and remember those that have served. um So shout out to anybody that has known anybody or has represented any of our armed forces.
00:02:16
Sully Shaheed
um We thank you for your service on this beautiful Memorial Day. um Make sure to stay safe out there in your cookouts, your your barbecues, or however you are choosing to remember the fall. And so thank you everyone for their service on this beautiful Memorial Day.
00:02:32
Chilly
Thank you for your service.
00:02:32
Sully Shaheed
um
00:02:33
Chilly
Thank you for your service.
00:02:34
Sully Shaheed
Yes, yes, absolutely. And that is the last nice thing I'm going to say on this podcast. um No, that's just not true. That's just not true.
Team Names and Event Preparation
00:02:42
Sully Shaheed
So a lot of exciting things. We got team names. We got schedules. We got we got all the shebangabangs happening in the Whirly Ball community. And we are ready for Wednesday. Well, you are ready for Wednesday because you're playing on Wednesday.
00:02:56
Sully Shaheed
I'm not even playing on Wednesday.
00:02:58
Chilly
Yeah.
00:02:58
Sully Shaheed
So I get to go and yeah probably drop you off and just enjoy Seattle for a day. I might catch the game. They play the Nationals that night.
00:03:06
Chilly
i don't even I don't even...
00:03:06
Sully Shaheed
So.
00:03:07
Chilly
You won't even be at the center by the time we play. You'll be just in the airport.
00:03:13
Sully Shaheed
yeah So I land at one thirty.
00:03:17
Chilly
Oh, you land at 1.30 at the Seattle airport?
00:03:18
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I land at 1.30.
00:03:19
Chilly
oh
00:03:19
Sully Shaheed
I get the car at 2.
00:03:20
Chilly
Oh.
00:03:20
Sully Shaheed
So in theory, yes, I will be in attendance.
00:03:23
Chilly
You could be there. Alright.
00:03:25
Sully Shaheed
I could be there. Or I'll just pop on my phone and live stream it from... Whirly Freak is sharing Jeff Jackson's setup? Is that...
00:03:33
Chilly
I think so. i think so i Either way... Either way, shout out to the people that are running the live streams. We thank you.
00:03:40
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:03:42
Chilly
The people that aren't playing, thank you. So, but yeah, I believe, yeah, so I believe that, I believe that's what's going on.
00:03:45
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, so plenty of ways. So it is.
00:03:51
Chilly
But, so...
00:03:52
Sully Shaheed
OK. Yeah, I just want to make sure because, you know, there's going to be a lot of people that aren't traveling this year, don't get the opportunity to play that want to catch the live streams. And there is a multitude of ways to catch all of your favorite World ball players and World Warli action in Seattle 2025 this year so I think we went over it before chill, minus you know the city excitement that we get to enjoy. ah what What are we looking forward to the most for our Whirly Ball trip?
00:04:22
Chilly
um For me, it's just playing against other A players and new people, you know why playing against you guys at practice you know for the past five months. It's great.
00:04:33
Sully Shaheed
It's been a while, dude.
00:04:34
Chilly
it's been
00:04:34
Sully Shaheed
These practices have been so crazy, yeah.
00:04:35
Chilly
It's been a while. um But yeah, for me, and then again, seeing everybody and then enjoying the the family reunion, as most of us call it. So that's what I'm looking forward to the most.
00:04:50
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, that's our bastard side of the family, isn't it? These damn Worleyball players, man.
00:04:55
Sully Shaheed
Like, they are a unique bunch.
00:04:55
Chilly
I think some.
00:04:55
Chilly
I think some. Yeah.
00:04:57
Sully Shaheed
Some? Some?
00:04:58
Chilly
Yeah. Yeah, yeah yeah you got you got some you got some fucked up uncles in there and cousins.
00:04:59
Sully Shaheed
Some? so
00:05:04
Chilly
You know, try to avoid at all costs, but we love them.
00:05:09
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, there is no doubt about that. No doubt about that. um Yeah, I mean, all the Seattle folks, you know what saying? They're cool. I mean, like, I have zero problems with, like, seeing anybody, you know? But, like, just like at a family reunion, I tend to Irish exit real quick.
00:05:24
Sully Shaheed
but on people you know like love seeing everybody but boy you will not catch me at that center 90 of the time i i just can't do it but um just like you said man it's going to be a different experience playing against um different level players because you you and chill or sorry chill you're chill um and the dobies get to kind of have a different experience because like it's the inverse of what we get to experience right so like you guys are playing in the a division with um you know a lot of talented i mean everybody in worldly ball is talented to a degree but there's divisions for a reason right so you guys get to play against different a players whereas we've already been playing against our a players so like now we get to go against c players
00:05:25
Chilly
kill
00:06:12
Sully Shaheed
And it's a different world, right?
Tournament Logistics and Humor
00:06:15
Sully Shaheed
So, like, I don't have to worry about Jarrett, you know, 7'7", shooting over his ass, right? You extending your your brother's quick scoop.
00:06:23
Sully Shaheed
I mean, Brad doing whatever he does with his no-look pass and bullshit. The game is going to be, like, at a five-mile-an-hour pace.
00:06:31
Chilly
it should should be
00:06:31
Sully Shaheed
And no disrespect to NEC players, no disrespect, but y'all ain't my boys. So I had to play against that for five months. And now I get to play against y'all. It's about to be wraps, fam.
00:06:45
Sully Shaheed
It's about to be wraps.
00:06:45
Chilly
Yeah, I mean, the game should obviously be pretty slower. And then, yeah, there's no, ah you know, there's no Jarrett or I or anybody extending really to the degree we do and see.
00:06:56
Chilly
So you should be fine.
00:06:57
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:06:59
Chilly
But yeah. You know, you guys will do well. Playing against us will help a lot. So, you know, you guys will go to shoot the ball and be like, man, that guy's kind of short.
00:07:05
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:07:11
Sully Shaheed
Right. Or, wow, how big is this window? I'm going to yeah It's always the easy ones that are the hard ones, right?
00:07:19
Chilly
No, I'm like,
00:07:19
Sully Shaheed
It was just like yesterday. It was just like yesterday in practice when I think you got. ah You definitely got past me and then blew the bunny. And you're like, it's always the easy ones.
00:07:28
Chilly
Yeah.
00:07:29
Sully Shaheed
that Like, yeah. Like, you can shoot through five scoops. But when there's a wide open bunny, it's the hardest shot in whirly ball.
00:07:34
Chilly
Yeah. yeah Yeah. yeah the The shooting through five scoops. That's easy. That that wide open layup.
00:07:40
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:07:41
Chilly
oof It's tough.
00:07:42
Sully Shaheed
that's That's the worst. Percentages go down.
00:07:45
Chilly
Yeah.
00:07:45
Sully Shaheed
Percentages go down.
00:07:47
Chilly
That's so true.
00:07:47
Sully Shaheed
But... Before we get into the schedule, chill, I think I can recap a couple housekeeping notes that Noah and Steve, a shout out to the What in the World, ah you know, Seattle edition, you know, the West Coast edition, you know, the the West Coast edition.
00:08:04
Sully Shaheed
oh Some housekeeping stuff, you know, the no alcohol, you know, outside, you know, liquor license in jeopardy. They will not police you on bringing in outside food like some sinners.
00:08:15
Sully Shaheed
yeah Chicago! Chicago!
00:08:19
Chilly
Yeah, man, that was... Yeah, I couldn't even have like That... Right?
00:08:23
Sully Shaheed
A Dunkin Donuts coffee, bro. You got policed over a Dunkin.
00:08:27
Chilly
that Right?
00:08:29
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, people just wanted their morning coffee and they went off on you. But Seattle, not so much. Y'all are good.
00:08:37
Chilly
I mean, you always had the out you could just should this had the outside coffee bar as well.
00:08:37
Sully Shaheed
Bring in all your stuff.
00:08:43
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's that's true. That's true. um Marijuana is legal in that state, so just make sure you keep the weed smoking at least 25 feet away from the building.
00:08:54
Sully Shaheed
Be respectful. Just don't do it outside of the front doors and things like that. um And yeah, that was basically it. ah they They said they got some swag, a little bit of swag, a couple discount coupons that you should expect with your Whirly Ball bags.
00:09:10
Sully Shaheed
So that was pretty cool. And obviously, if you're an out-of-towner, make sure you pay your registration fee ah to this moment. I have not because I am lazy.
00:09:18
Chilly
i I paid it on Saturday. I didn't want to, but I did.
00:09:21
Sully Shaheed
you You're a good man. You're a good man. I still have not broken out my wallet to do so.
00:09:24
Chilly
Yeah.
00:09:26
Sully Shaheed
I mean, I will. i will. But yeah. I want to make sure like my team has done it. Because like like Ricky's on my team. And you know how that dude is.
00:09:35
Chilly
Well, when Ricky's in bed with with the guy, Ricky could play for free.
00:09:39
Sully Shaheed
You're right, though.
00:09:41
Chilly
We don't know.
00:09:42
Sully Shaheed
ah We don't know.
00:09:43
Sully Shaheed
And I don't want to know.
00:09:43
Chilly
it's riing It's Ricky and Tom.
00:09:46
Chilly
So, like...
00:09:46
Sully Shaheed
Right. ah
00:09:49
Chilly
Rick could literally be playing for free. We have no idea.
00:09:52
Sully Shaheed
And nor do I want to know.
00:09:54
Chilly
No. No.
00:09:54
Sully Shaheed
Whoever he's in bed with is his business and his business alone.
00:09:57
Chilly
Yeah. I'll tell you.
00:09:59
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:10:00
Chilly
Billy O is paid. He can't operate the computer, but Anthony paid it for him.
00:10:05
Sully Shaheed
Ah, ah, you, you. The Ola's got to stick together.
00:10:10
Chilly
Yeah.
00:10:10
Sully Shaheed
Ola's got to stick together.
00:10:12
Chilly
So...
00:10:12
Sully Shaheed
So now that all the brouhaha is out of the way, um i know some people came in early to enjoy the sights and sounds of ah of Seattle. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I begrudgingly have to go to work tomorrow.
00:10:25
Chilly
same
00:10:26
Sully Shaheed
Which, like, I don't understand why I didn't take off the extra vacation day. But that's neither here nor there, right? It's neither here nor there.
00:10:34
Chilly
i'm this I'm just saving the eight hours. it it won't.
00:10:36
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:10:38
Chilly
It'll be easy.
00:10:39
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I feel the same way because I'm just going to F off tomorrow anyway. I mean, I'll be honest. And I know no one at my job listens to my Whirly Ball podcast, so they can't call me out. And what are you going to do?
00:10:50
Sully Shaheed
Tell h r
00:10:57
Chilly
They'll tell
00:10:57
Sully Shaheed
Anywho.
00:10:58
Chilly
They'll tell you.
00:10:59
Sully Shaheed
Who?
00:10:59
Chilly
Nice.
00:11:00
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, they would tell me to tell on me. Yeah, exactly. Ah, the perks of the job, chill. The perks of the job.
00:11:09
Sully Shaheed
But let's get into it, man. So we got the schedule release. um And we got, obviously, like I said, the team names associated with the schedule release. And before we get into the bullshit, let's get into something nice.
00:11:20
Sully Shaheed
Because as I did last year, i would like to award a special team that came up with the best team name.
00:11:23
Chilly
nice
00:11:30
Sully Shaheed
So if you are a member of this team that I'm going to announce as the winners of the best team name, A drink is on your boy Sully when you see me at Nationals.
00:11:41
Sully Shaheed
So make sure you pull me aside. Tell me I'm a member of that team. And I got you. So, so what do you think of the team names in general before we pick out the best team name?
00:11:52
Sully Shaheed
Are they original?
00:11:53
Chilly
i mean
00:11:53
Sully Shaheed
Are they, are they retro? Are they, are you know, what are we thinking of create creativity in the Whirly Ball community?
00:12:00
Chilly
I mean, i i think they're pretty good. i mean, you got some old faithfuls in there. That's for sure. ah With the outlaws and then, you know, the vintage Cleveland Sea.
00:12:09
Sully Shaheed
Yes. Yes.
00:12:13
Chilly
um
00:12:13
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:12:14
Chilly
So, I mean, you got some you got some retro names in there. You got, um you know, they're they're okay.
00:12:23
Sully Shaheed
What do you think of teams that that send out the same same team name every year?
00:12:29
Sully Shaheed
So, like, yeah the Cleveland Steamers.
00:12:29
Chilly
I like it.
00:12:30
Chilly
ah
00:12:31
Sully Shaheed
they're They're the Cleveland Steamers. There will always be the Cleveland Steamers. The Outlaws. There's another one. Perfect perfect example. um what What do you think of switching names or what do you think of, like, you know, changing it up every year?
00:12:39
Chilly
I
00:12:42
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:12:42
Chilly
i would like to have the same team name, personally. Because that way you can just alter your design and color a little bit. I think it makes doing the shirt easier.
00:12:53
Chilly
i mean, obviously I understand that some people can't ah can't have the same team name because obviously you're playing with new people every year, so I get it.
00:13:02
Sully Shaheed
Teams change. That's right.
00:13:03
Chilly
So i totally get it, but...
00:13:03
Sully Shaheed
That's right. Teams change.
00:13:06
Chilly
i do I would prefer to keep the same team name because I'm just old school in that sense.
00:13:13
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I guess that's the primary reason why people do it is because team rosters do change. So, but again, if like and to your point, like you said, if there's the same team, I feel they should keep the same team name.
00:13:24
Sully Shaheed
And again, it makes designing the shirts a lot easier.
00:13:25
Chilly
Yeah. i think i think I think Minnesota with the Whirly-Sers, I believe they are a a reoccurring name.
00:13:27
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:13:34
Sully Shaheed
Yes, yes, the Whirly-sers.
00:13:34
Chilly
I believe.
00:13:36
Sully Shaheed
And just like everyone asks when we talk about Minnesota's team, is that the Jersey team?
00:13:43
Chilly
I think that's the only C team they have, right?
00:13:45
Sully Shaheed
I ah think so.
00:13:47
Chilly
Yeah.
00:13:47
Sully Shaheed
Luke's team?
00:13:49
Chilly
I believe it would be that team. So, yes.
00:13:53
Sully Shaheed
Let's say they are the Jersey boys.
00:13:55
Chilly
Yes.
00:13:56
Sully Shaheed
Good, good.
00:13:57
Chilly
Excited to see what jerseys they be wearing.
00:14:01
Sully Shaheed
I know. Like, was it last year the year before they were rocking the Tune Squad once?
00:14:06
Chilly
I believe so.
00:14:07
Sully Shaheed
That shit was hot. I will admit that that was hot. When they broke out the Tune Squad, that was pretty dope. I'll give them some credit.
00:14:16
Chilly
Yeah. I think it would...
00:14:18
Sully Shaheed
But yeah, i I'm excited to see what they can do. I mean, you know, we've obviously seen them perform before, you know, Chef Luke, you know, cooking up in the kitchen. you know I'm saying?
00:14:25
Chilly
If I don't ah if i don't see a Detlef shrimp jersey out there, I'm going be pretty pissed off.
00:14:32
Sully Shaheed
ah Not the Detlef shrimp.
00:14:37
Chilly
Yeah.
00:14:37
Sully Shaheed
what about ah What about Rick Smith?
00:14:41
Sully Shaheed
ah we we Yeah, we were watching the Pacers game last night dropping some retro names.
00:14:41
Chilly
Yeah.
00:14:42
Chilly
an
00:14:47
Chilly
I mean, I need some Sean Kemp.
00:14:50
Sully Shaheed
Which one?
00:14:50
Chilly
Who...
00:14:52
Chilly
give him ah Just Just give me the Sonics.
00:14:53
Sully Shaheed
which Which Sean Kemp jersey?
00:14:56
Chilly
I want the Sonics.
00:14:57
Sully Shaheed
Okay, okay. Like represent represent the old school Sonic one?
00:14:59
Chilly
Yeah, yeah, represent. I want the glove.
00:15:01
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:15:01
Chilly
um I need the glove out there.
00:15:03
Sully Shaheed
Ah, some Gary Payton. Ah, man, we definitely need a Gary Payton jersey out there.
00:15:07
Chilly
Yeah.
00:15:07
Sully Shaheed
Definitely need a Gary Payton jersey. I'm in. I want to see if I can find a nice retrofit Sean Kemp jersey when we're out in Seattle.
00:15:16
Chilly
greg Did Kevin Durant play for the Sonics before they left?
00:15:22
Sully Shaheed
Did they already convert to the Thunder?
00:15:24
Chilly
That i don't I don't know yet. I don't remember.
00:15:28
Sully Shaheed
m We're going to have to research on that. See you a nice original KD jersey.
00:15:34
Chilly
i think... I feel like he played before they left.
00:15:41
Sully Shaheed
We'll have to look that up.
00:15:42
Chilly
Yeah. If not,
00:15:43
Sully Shaheed
Is there any other retro retro Seattle Supersonics that we need to mention that Luke's team could represent?
00:15:50
Chilly
I'm sure that people in the comments can, ah people could throw some players in the comments.
00:15:56
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:15:57
Chilly
But ah ah I hope the Worley-Sers did their homework.
00:15:57
Sully Shaheed
Give them some suggestions before they get on the plane.
00:16:01
Chilly
I better see some Supersonics jerseys out there.
00:16:05
Sully Shaheed
Right now. Now they have some expectations.
00:16:08
Chilly
Yeah, if not, if not, going to pretty pissed off.
00:16:08
Sully Shaheed
Like they have expectations.
00:16:13
Sully Shaheed
Right. I mean, like, we got we got Jay from Seattle spending, you know, X amount of hours and money on, ah you know, his jerseys, team center stuff, and, you know, all that shit.
00:16:25
Sully Shaheed
We got Jared Dobies ordering $500 worth of shirts from, like, five different centers.
00:16:29
Chilly
he literally He literally has a box.
00:16:32
Sully Shaheed
A box, chill. A box.
00:16:35
Chilly
A whole ass box.
00:16:37
Sully Shaheed
My team shirt came from Amazon.com. Like, I don't care anymore. I just don't care. They're all different colors. I don't give a shit. But the ah the New World Order shirts that we got last night were pretty slick.
00:16:51
Chilly
Yeah, man. Shout out to Brad Dobies for doing the shirts. So kudos to you, sir. They are they are nice.
00:16:57
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, even though Brad Petinia did not give him permission to use the name for the team.
00:17:02
Chilly
Is there there' going to be a cease and desist? Ha ha ha ha.
00:17:07
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're going to come out in the court and it's going to be like, ah guys, you got to change your name.
00:17:08
Chilly
Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.
00:17:12
Sully Shaheed
And, you know, like, Bettinger comes out like. You can't play. So that's going to be interesting.
00:17:21
Chilly
ah
00:17:24
Sully Shaheed
We're going to let him slide. We're going to let him slide. um I mean, speaking of expectations, again, before we get into the schedule and and name off the the winner. of You know what? let's Let's do that first. Let's do that first. And then we'll get into expectations.
00:17:37
Sully Shaheed
um So who has the best team name? In your opinion, who has the best team name?
00:17:43
Chilly
um so um I'm looking now at the at the schedule that we need to just absolutely tear into the ground, but... um
00:17:51
Sully Shaheed
Listen, before we tear the schedule apart, all right, I mean no harm to anybody that has done this schedule.
00:17:54
Chilly
ah
00:17:59
Sully Shaheed
Noah and any Jay, anybody that has contributed to the making of this schedule, I know how painstakingly annoying it is to make a schedule.
00:18:09
Chilly
Oh, it's terrible. It's terrible.
00:18:12
Sully Shaheed
But bad. It's bad. It's bad. But... it's bad
00:18:18
Chilly
what
00:18:18
Sully Shaheed
but
00:18:18
Chilly
the We'll get into that here in a second. All right.
00:18:21
Sully Shaheed
We'll get there, we'll get there.
00:18:22
Chilly
I mean,
00:18:22
Sully Shaheed
But let's keep positive for right now, let's keep positive.
00:18:25
Chilly
I mean, we could each go with our we should just go with our top three, and then we'll pick one.
00:18:25
Sully Shaheed
Who has the best team?
00:18:30
Sully Shaheed
Oh, mine's already picked. Mine's already picked. I rattled around in my head between several teams. So I will give you the top three, actually. So I was feeling, I was feeling somewhat, some chill squash.
00:18:30
Chilly
so Oh, yours is already picked.
00:18:46
Sully Shaheed
I was feeling some chill squash. uh um you know i i i got dirty in my mind and went with plan c uh that's the texas c1 team so plan c was hilarious in my mind and uh the i do believe it's a chicago d team um all smash no pass those are definitely my top three
00:18:46
Chilly
Okay.
00:19:12
Chilly
two Not the all pass.
00:19:15
Chilly
All smash, no pass.
00:19:16
Sully Shaheed
All smash, no pass.
00:19:18
Chilly
that is That is Chicago D1.
00:19:18
Sully Shaheed
So does that mean does that mean that team, Chicago D1, yes. So that means does that mean that team just like rips it like as soon as they get the ball? They've never seen a screenshot that they will not pass up on.
00:19:30
Sully Shaheed
Like there are no taking advantage of two-on-ones, like nothing.
00:19:32
Chilly
aye ah so i So my mind just went the dirty route.
00:19:38
Sully Shaheed
I mean, yes, it's supposed to go the dirty route. I think that's what they meant. However, could it be Whirly Ball related?
00:19:43
Chilly
that means That means they'd be banged. No, I'm not taking it Worley Ball related.
00:19:47
Sully Shaheed
No, not that.
00:19:47
Chilly
Not at all.
00:19:47
Sully Shaheed
No. Okay.
00:19:48
Chilly
No.
00:19:49
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:19:49
Chilly
That means they'd be banging everybody out here.
00:19:50
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:19:56
Sully Shaheed
All smash. No pass. yeah They're just like the Sonic. They're just like the Knuckles meme where like he's going through people and he's just like approved, ah approved, approved.
00:20:08
Sully Shaheed
That's that team.
00:20:09
Chilly
Approved. Yeah. They don't care. They give everybody love him.
00:20:13
Sully Shaheed
Oh, that should have been their team shirt.
00:20:15
Chilly
is Just knuckles.
00:20:17
Sully Shaheed
Just the Knuckles meme going approved. Just all smash.
00:20:24
Sully Shaheed
I swear to God, if that's their shirts, I'm losing it.
00:20:27
Chilly
Just has a line of women.
00:20:30
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, just a line of women. i don't wait I need to find out who's on that roster because if there's a woman on that roster, I hope it's all dudes on her shirt.
00:20:38
Chilly
All smash, no pass.
00:20:42
Sully Shaheed
All smash. No bad.
Team Dynamics and Strategic Discussion
00:20:45
Chilly
I'm probably going with All Smash, no Pass.
00:20:49
Sully Shaheed
I agree 100%. that is That is the best team name.
00:20:54
Chilly
I did...
00:20:54
Sully Shaheed
Congratulations.
00:20:56
Chilly
I did like the other one. I did like Plan c ah did I did like Chill Squatch.
00:21:00
Sully Shaheed
Fancy's hilarious.
00:21:02
Chilly
I did like Death by Taco.
00:21:06
Sully Shaheed
Yep, yep. Death by Taco was is another good one. Yep, yep.
00:21:09
Chilly
I did like Revival from Atlanta.
00:21:12
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And it's got a subliminal message to it.
00:21:12
Chilly
So I...
00:21:15
Sully Shaheed
it's It's an extra meaning because the Atlanta boys are back. They're back, chill. And we're excited to have them back, just like the Miami boys. They're back.
00:21:24
Chilly
They're back. Outlaws is always going to be a classic.
00:21:25
Sully Shaheed
It's going to a...
00:21:27
Chilly
The Outlaws will always win the Vintage Award for Team Nave.
00:21:30
Sully Shaheed
Oh, yeah. Yeah. they They better have some hats for sale.
00:21:34
Chilly
Oh, yeah.
00:21:35
Sully Shaheed
You always got to cop an Outlaws hat.
00:21:35
Chilly
Always. Always.
00:21:38
Sully Shaheed
Always, always. So congratulations to all smash, no pass. You have won but best team name award. And again, if you see Sully at the bar, be sure to meet me and a drink is on your boy.
00:21:56
Sully Shaheed
Chill, you ready for this man? you ready You ready for this this schedule talk man?
00:22:02
Chilly
We're only bashing one day. Like, let's let's be let's be clear. We're really only bashing.
00:22:08
Sully Shaheed
We're only bashing Thursday?
00:22:10
Chilly
Yeah. Because it makes...
00:22:11
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:22:13
Chilly
i mean, listen, they they could probably give me some written explanation on why it is the way it is. But it makes no sense.
00:22:21
Sully Shaheed
What?
00:22:22
Chilly
Yeah.
00:22:22
Sully Shaheed
What? So there's there's a block schedule. um those For those of you who haven't seen it, there is a nice little website that you can download the PDF version of this colorful beauty right here.
00:22:33
Sully Shaheed
um Thursday is F'd. um So, you know, from my personal standpoint, ah so the C block, well, one of the C blocks start promptly at 8 a.m. m um And guess what?
00:22:49
Sully Shaheed
One of my teammates is not even going to be in the state at that time. So already not playing with him. And then we go all the way down to a block where my personal ass game is at noon.
00:23:04
Sully Shaheed
And then my black ass has to be back at the center at 8.05 to play another set of games. So I am first on and last off on Thursday.
00:23:13
Chilly
Peace.
00:23:22
Sully Shaheed
Make that make sense, chill. Make it make sense. We are the first game on Thursday and the last game on Thursday.
00:23:32
Sully Shaheed
And yes, I am actually using my microphone now. So even when I get loud, it's going to sound just fine. so No one can bash me anymore about getting the hype.
00:23:44
Sully Shaheed
understand. It's a nice dichotomy between Chill and I that he's the calm one and I'm the fucking overhyped one. But guess what? I have a reason this time. How the fuck do you make a schedule that you look at and go, oh, this is fine, when one team is the first game on and the last game of the day?
00:24:03
Sully Shaheed
Make it make sense, Joe.
00:24:05
Chilly
I can't.
00:24:05
Sully Shaheed
Make it make sense.
00:24:06
Chilly
I can't.
00:24:07
Sully Shaheed
No, you can't.
00:24:08
Chilly
I can't. I just...
00:24:09
Sully Shaheed
ah you can't. That's weird. Who thought this and printed this and sent this to paper and was like, yeah, this is fine.
00:24:11
Chilly
I can't.
00:24:17
Chilly
Approved. okay
00:24:18
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, all proved. But, but, but, but, but Sully, you don't have to be back until 11 the next day. What the fuck? So that means first thing Thursday, I don't play at all Wednesday.
00:24:33
Sully Shaheed
At all. No games. No games. couldn't Couldn't move those up. No, no, no, no, no. No games Wednesday.
00:24:40
Sully Shaheed
And Thursday,
00:24:40
Chilly
but you know you wouldn't have you wouldn't have ricky on wednesday that's true
00:24:44
Sully Shaheed
I don't give a shit about having Ricky at all. let's make that Let's make that very clear. Okay? Like, as a boss and as a friend, we know that I love the guy.
00:24:55
Sully Shaheed
As a teammate, it's completely different.
00:25:00
Chilly
but comma
00:25:01
Sully Shaheed
But, comma, regardless if I wouldn't have a teammate or not, because, you know, you know are you know we we're taking Ty and we're going to be fine, right? Ty's going to play some C games. No big deal.
00:25:13
Sully Shaheed
But I got eight-hour gap in between the last games that I played, which means basically I get to go out and do nothing because right after that is the A block, which means my boys are still playing.
00:25:32
Sully Shaheed
So there's a little gap between B and when the D guys play, I need to bring my black ass back and finish off the night.
00:25:43
Sully Shaheed
And then be back at 11 the next day. And guess what, chill? That block's broken up too.
00:25:47
Chilly
Oh no.
00:25:48
Sully Shaheed
Because there's this little block right here and a little C.
00:25:49
Chilly
no
00:25:53
Sully Shaheed
There's little Cleveland C, right? There's that. And then we're all the way down here. So I gotta wait out the entirety of the A block just to finish up. And oh, oh, oh, guess who's the second game on, on Saturday.
00:26:09
Sully Shaheed
I'm damn near last off Friday, last off Thursday, first on Saturday.
00:26:15
Chilly
no no not this schedule At the schedule I'm looking at, i don't see you. On Saturday, you don't play until 1055. only have
00:26:28
Sully Shaheed
Wait, wait, wait. ah you ill I stand corrected. Wait, Saturday, Saturday. Yeah, you're right, you're right. So Saturday, I'll stop. My apologies about Saturday. I apologize.
00:26:38
Chilly
I mean...
00:26:40
Sully Shaheed
But those first two days are kind of fucked up, chill. So ah break it that break it down like a fraction.
00:26:43
Chilly
i only have a i mean I mean, like, Wednesday's cool. we we play against We play against two Seattle teams. That's cool. no no No qualms there.
00:26:55
Chilly
and Wait, is it two Seattle teams? We're full and four up. Yep. And then, um yeah, I just don't get what the breaking of the schedule, what the point is. Because, like, we have a four-hour gap or five-hour gap.
00:27:14
Chilly
now we'll We'll call it four. a little under four to we have a four hour gap and we play three more games. Why?
00:27:28
Sully Shaheed
it It doesn't, I mean, it beats an eight hour gap like me.
00:27:28
Chilly
What?
00:27:33
Chilly
It does. I just don't, I just, I just don't, I just don't get the logic with why can't we just play three more games and move everything down
00:27:35
Sully Shaheed
It does.
00:27:47
Chilly
And have it as a true block scheduling.
00:27:50
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, this is not a true block schedule. It's all helter skelter. I don't understand how.
00:27:52
Chilly
And like, if you want if you want to if you want to break up the C guys, I get it. But why not just...
00:28:02
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, but even but even if you want to break us up, at least put us on a block. Put us all the way up top and don't have any like some some other C teams be done. And then the rest of the C guys that didn't play the early block can play the late block.
00:28:16
Chilly
Yeah, I...
00:28:16
Sully Shaheed
There is zero reason for my team to be first on and last off in the same day. Zero reason.
00:28:24
Chilly
I agree.
00:28:28
Chilly
i
00:28:28
Sully Shaheed
You're working me into a shoot, chill. little pissed off.
00:28:30
Chilly
not ah The Worleysters, I think, have the worldly sirs have the same thing.
00:28:36
Sully Shaheed
Oh, they're first on, last off?
00:28:39
Chilly
they are Not only are they first on and last off, they are they are first on last two games off.
00:28:47
Sully Shaheed
They sure are. Yeah, on one court, then they got to jettison to the other one.
00:28:52
Chilly
And then the one Seattle team plays three games in a row.
00:28:57
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:00
Chilly
But it looks like it looks like that that Seattle team doesn't play early.
00:29:01
Sully Shaheed
ah
00:29:08
Chilly
Or they play one game early. So one.
00:29:13
Sully Shaheed
I got nothing, man.
00:29:15
Chilly
So...
00:29:15
Sully Shaheed
ah got nothing.
00:29:16
Chilly
so so that So that one Seattle team looks like they only play one game early. And then they have to come back. They have to be there at night and play like.
00:29:30
Chilly
Yeah, so that that one Seattle team literally plays four games at night, but one game early.
00:29:38
Sully Shaheed
ah I mean, and again...
00:29:40
Chilly
Controversy. Controversy.
00:29:42
Sully Shaheed
controversy indeed. Again, I'm seeing on Friday, my last game in the afternoon, not last game. So no, there's a four hour gap between the last game in the afternoon.
00:29:54
Sully Shaheed
And then the next game, which is at three 50. And then, yeah, there's, there's an entire C block. So, I mean, I'm okay with that, but it would be different if you, a guys would just shift up and the C guys shift down and then just put them all together.
00:30:13
Sully Shaheed
because there's a four-hour gap between divisions.
00:30:16
Chilly
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there may be some logic to it, but...
00:30:16
Sully Shaheed
That's crazy.
00:30:21
Sully Shaheed
And there may be some adjustments, so some of this may be mute. But, again, the biggest gripe. There's no way in any realm of possibility that a team should be first on last off.
00:30:27
Chilly
i
00:30:35
Sully Shaheed
Ever.
00:30:36
Sully Shaheed
When does that ever happen, Chill?
00:30:36
Chilly
What if you...
00:30:38
Chilly
it i don't know. It's probably it's probably happened before.
00:30:41
Sully Shaheed
And no one has bitched about it like me, apparently.
00:30:44
Chilly
Yeah, I just don't, uh, I just don't like sitting for four hours and then playing three games. But, okay.
00:30:53
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, that's rough, that's rough. ah what ah What else do you have to bitch about the schedule, Chill, before I move on to some more positive stuff?
00:31:03
Chilly
I think everything else is fine. Like, for for a everything else is fine. um you know, there's, uh, The, you know, the unlimited teams get a practice game. That's cool.
00:31:19
Sully Shaheed
That's fine.
00:31:20
Chilly
Then we do the group picture.
00:31:20
Sully Shaheed
I don't.
00:31:22
Chilly
Then unlimited is cool. ah
00:31:28
Chilly
I mean, everything else is everything else is cool. I mean, as you can see there, we're running C and B playoffs first on Saturday.
00:31:35
Sully Shaheed
Yes, yes. Mm hmm.
00:31:37
Chilly
So that's cool. ah And then A and D playoffs on Sunday, which is cool. So oh no no, really, i might my biggest bitch is just Thursday.
00:31:51
Chilly
But whatever. That's how it goes. like it Like I said, I don't want to do the schedule, so if this is what I got to live with.
00:32:00
Sully Shaheed
like I don't want to do it.
00:32:02
Chilly
So, so be it.
00:32:03
Sully Shaheed
yeah
00:32:05
Chilly
ah You know, I
00:32:06
Sully Shaheed
You know That's fair. That's a fair point. Like, listen, I don't want to fucking do it either, but.
00:32:10
Chilly
it i mean, it is what it is. So, you know, only one Seattle team has to play after sitting for four hours.
00:32:21
Sully Shaheed
Hmm.
00:32:22
Chilly
Huh.
00:32:22
Sully Shaheed
Weird.
00:32:23
Chilly
Weird. Weird.
00:32:25
Sully Shaheed
Weird.
00:32:26
Chilly
Weird.
00:32:28
Sully Shaheed
Let's just so let's think about that for a second while we dwell.
00:32:28
Chilly
Yeah. yeah
00:32:33
Sully Shaheed
Hmm.
00:32:34
Chilly
oh
00:32:35
Sully Shaheed
Hmm. Who thought that was a good idea?
00:32:38
Chilly
Yeah, we have to play three games. Only one Seattle team out of the three has to play once.
00:32:47
Sully Shaheed
Anywho.
00:32:48
Chilly
Laser focused. After sitting for four hours, you too have to play one game. Actually, their sit is longer. They got to play at 8.30.
00:32:57
Sully Shaheed
Oh, Jesus.
00:32:58
Chilly
they got to play at eight thirty So they they literally will be sitting
00:33:01
Sully Shaheed
Well.
00:33:04
Chilly
five hours
00:33:08
Sully Shaheed
I got nothing. I got nothing. I'm gonna let it go. gonna let it go. gonna let it go. but's ah let's get to some Let's get to some fun fun fun topics.
00:33:19
Sully Shaheed
Fun topics. Let's do that. Oh, that's another thing I wanted to bring up. Do you think that if we wanted to recreate the name of another team, would we have to ask for copyright from that team?
00:33:32
Chilly
No, this is working.
00:33:32
Sully Shaheed
So, like, like let's say let's say I wanted to go into next year, regardless of division, regardless of team, and rename my team the flick of the wrist. Do I have to ask the Atlanta guys?
00:33:44
Chilly
No. No, you don't.
00:33:46
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:33:47
Chilly
I mean, you could.
00:33:48
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:33:48
Chilly
You could be courteous, right? But i'm pretty sure i'm I'm pretty sure people have accidentally taken other team names.
00:33:50
Sully Shaheed
Could be courteous. Or just do it.
00:33:58
Chilly
Pretty sure that's happening.
00:33:58
Sully Shaheed
New World Order. New World Order.
00:34:02
Chilly
we had it first We had it first in leaks.
00:34:02
Sully Shaheed
New World Order.
00:34:06
Chilly
I think.
00:34:06
Sully Shaheed
I don't know. Did the years sync up where they played it at Nationals? You guys played it in the leagues?
00:34:12
Chilly
think we had it first. I can't remember.
00:34:14
Sully Shaheed
Controversy.
00:34:16
Chilly
Controversy.
00:34:17
Sully Shaheed
Controversy. All right, anywho. I'm going to name off a couple teams in each division. And they're going to be...
00:34:29
Sully Shaheed
Well, I don't want to say like not favorited to win, but you know, any team can win any division at any time. So let me just preface that with that. But I'm going to name a couple of teams and I want you to give me the X factor of that team for the key to success for them potentially winning their division.
00:34:49
Sully Shaheed
Does that make sense? So going to name you team.
00:34:51
Chilly
oh
00:34:53
Sully Shaheed
Hopefully you remember some of the people on the roster.
00:34:55
Chilly
Oh God.
00:34:56
Sully Shaheed
And I'm going to ask you to give me their key to success. Okay? Are you ready?
00:35:04
Chilly
I'm ready.
00:35:05
Sully Shaheed
All right. Let's start in the D division where most of the unknowns happen.
00:35:07
Chilly
Oh God.
00:35:10
Sully Shaheed
Most of the unknowns happen. What is the key to success for the mixed D4 team, the Tri-City All-Stars, which features two members from Cleveland?
00:35:24
Chilly
ah the The key for them winning the D division is how well can they gel?
00:35:24
Sully Shaheed
What is their key to winning the D division?
00:35:33
Chilly
um You know, these are going to be five people who have never played together. These are five people that are going to get out there and going to have to figure it out during seating.
00:35:37
Sully Shaheed
Right, never.
00:35:43
Chilly
There's no practice time for these for these individuals. um Can they find some sort of, you know, what works for them? You know, who does what?
00:35:54
Chilly
um I mean, they do have a gill on the team, so probably just get that they probably get that guy the ball.
00:35:58
Sully Shaheed
Dude, have a go.
00:36:02
Chilly
um
00:36:04
Sully Shaheed
We don't know anything about this guy except his last name, chill.
00:36:08
Chilly
Just get that guy the ball. Let's just assume, right?
00:36:10
Sully Shaheed
Just give him the ball. Just give him the ball.
00:36:12
Chilly
Let's just assume, right? um
00:36:13
Sully Shaheed
Right, right, right.
00:36:16
Chilly
No, again here, it's how well can they gel? um When they hit a rough patch, will the team rise up? Or will they start getting mad at each other?
00:36:25
Sully Shaheed
All right.
00:36:27
Chilly
That team is a little bit on the younger side with some of their people.
00:36:30
Sully Shaheed
Yes, yes, yes.
00:36:30
Chilly
So will the maturity level, you know,
00:36:31
Sully Shaheed
Very young, very young.
00:36:36
Sully Shaheed
So would it be um advantageous to them to either like have a mentor as a coach? I don't know who's going to coach that team. Maybe it's Mr. Gill. Maybe it's someone else that wants to get involved with this team.
00:36:48
Sully Shaheed
But would it behoove them to actually like meet before seating and sit down and talk before you get on the court?
00:36:55
Chilly
well ah Well, when one of their teammates is missing their first two games on Wednesday, that doesn't help.
00:37:05
Sully Shaheed
Let's dwell on that as well.
00:37:13
Chilly
Shout out to the...
00:37:14
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, i guess that is a ah I guess that is a detriment to the gelling of the team now, isn't it?
00:37:22
Chilly
That is a detriment. I mean, I'm trying to get the games moved. If possible.
00:37:28
Sully Shaheed
Right, right. I mean, it's the same for us. Like I said, Rick and Sean Morad are on that same flight. So.
00:37:34
Chilly
They are. We apologize on behalf of the Morads for coming in on Thursday.
00:37:39
Sully Shaheed
Right, right, right.
00:37:41
Chilly
Take. at
00:37:43
Sully Shaheed
No, don't need no damn apologize. Fucking get in on Wednesday. i just want to save a couple of bucks, you know, and I have to stay that extra night at the hotel.
00:37:46
Chilly
take
00:37:49
Chilly
rick rick ricke Rick be struggling.
00:37:50
Sully Shaheed
blah ah
00:37:51
Chilly
Rick be struggling for money. He'd be struggling.
00:37:54
Sully Shaheed
o Oh, my God. god What are you talking about?
00:38:03
Chilly
life
00:38:04
Sully Shaheed
You're struggling for Ricky. Okay.
00:38:06
Chilly
it
00:38:07
Sully Shaheed
You're right. You're right. My bad. I didn't know he was going through it. My bad.
00:38:12
Chilly
He sold the center for pennies on a dollar.
00:38:14
Sully Shaheed
Pennies on the dollar.
00:38:16
Chilly
The dollar.
00:38:17
Sully Shaheed
The dollar. All right. Well, let's move on. I'm give you two teams from the C division.
00:38:28
Chilly
All right.
00:38:28
Sully Shaheed
Their keys to success. How can this team. Win a C banner for their center. Chili, I give you Chicago C2.
00:38:39
Sully Shaheed
Franken beans. How are they going to win C?
00:38:43
Sully Shaheed
Keys to victory.
00:38:44
Chilly
I'm going to need the roster for that one.
00:38:48
Sully Shaheed
Bring up the roster while I give you the second one I want you to comment on. And that is... You know the roster of this team, the Cleveland Steamers.
00:38:59
Sully Shaheed
How can the Cleveland Steamers win the C division?
00:39:04
Chilly
All right, as I'm bringing up the roster, so bear with me here for Franks and Beans. But the Steamers, oh, the Steamers, the team that I'm coaching. Yeah,
00:39:17
Sully Shaheed
Well, yeah, I mean, you got to give us the insider information, you know?
00:39:20
Chilly
yeah yeah right.
00:39:20
Sully Shaheed
You got to give us that. You got to give us the juice. You got to give us the sauce.
00:39:23
Chilly
Not the juice. I got to fix my shame right here for a second.
00:39:25
Sully Shaheed
I need the sauce. I need the juice. i need all that.
00:39:28
Chilly
I got fix my camera. All right, so the team i mean the team that I'm coaching, you know, can their coach get them ready to play?
00:39:40
Chilly
It's not me. know No, I think they're keys to success.
00:39:41
Sully Shaheed
a
00:39:46
Chilly
It's going to be a couple different things, right? um they They need to limit their turnovers.
00:39:53
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:39:53
Chilly
I think they they they do have a tendency for for turnovers. They do have a, ah so again, turnovers, up rebounds.
00:40:07
Chilly
I think we both can agree.
00:40:07
Sully Shaheed
Oh, man. Yeah, they they are a piss-poor rebounding team. and That is true.
00:40:10
Chilly
i mean I mean, theirre their rebounding ability is a little, we'll call it sketch. um
00:40:18
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm.
00:40:19
Chilly
Like, I mean, that could be any team. And, yeah. and you know at the end of the day, can they, can they come together? Can, uh, there are two people on that team that do have a little, uh, they do have a little friendly banner back and forth trying to fit.
00:40:35
Chilly
So can those two keep it under wraps and get, be friends. Um, and then, you know, for them, you know, can they put ball bucket?
00:40:47
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
00:40:47
Chilly
You gotta be able to put ball and bucket.
00:40:48
Chilly
I mean, they're a solid defensive team. Um, But, you know, can they, can they, can the offense get clicking? So, turnovers, rebounds, ball and bucket.
00:41:02
Chilly
That would be my keys to success for for them. So, I'm still trying to.
00:41:07
Sully Shaheed
and Okay, okay. And how are you feeling about Franken beans, a Chicago two? Because they have to go against a favorited Chicago team who's apparently going to go undefeated.
00:41:15
Chilly
I'm.
00:41:20
Sully Shaheed
So they have to beat them at minimum. How do they beat them?
00:41:27
Chilly
So this is the...
00:41:29
Sully Shaheed
Or should the entire C division just quit because another team is going to run the train anyway.
00:41:29
Chilly
This is...
00:41:34
Sully Shaheed
So like, why are we even going? Should I cancel my flight now?
00:41:38
Chilly
don't cancel your flight, because there's a lot of pressure. that's ah that's ah That's a lot of pressure on them. I am just looking for the roster.
00:41:50
Chilly
you apologize to Franks and Beans? Because I don't fucking know. Alright, so...
00:41:54
Sully Shaheed
I mean, we don't know rosters off the top of our head, you know, so it's okay to they go on the old Facebook.
00:41:58
Chilly
All right, so so this looks like the team that does have the the women of Chicago on it.
00:42:07
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:42:09
Chilly
Their keys to success. All right, let's take a look. ah So I think for them, it's going to kind of be the same thing for the Steamers. They're going to need to limit their turnovers. ah They're going to need to be able to put ball in buckets.
00:42:28
Chilly
um Again, they got they do... Let's take a look here.
00:42:36
Sully Shaheed
I need an X factor chill. i need I need some, who, who, who is going to put the ball in the bucket? Who should be, who who, who should we be weary of on this team? That's going to put the team on a back for the squad.
00:42:51
Chilly
Who's going to put the team on their back?
00:42:53
Sully Shaheed
Who's going to do it?
00:42:54
Chilly
Well, I know...
00:42:54
Sully Shaheed
Because again, it's the it's the wonderful women of Chicago.
00:42:56
Chilly
Well, Well, know Sarah Doherty is the best Doherty in the house, in their household.
00:43:02
Sully Shaheed
Oh, that's not even a competition.
00:43:04
Chilly
Yeah, so I do know that. i mean, but her husband's going to go undefeated and see, so I don't know how that's going to play. His ass will be...
00:43:12
Sully Shaheed
That's a weird dichotomy, isn't it?
00:43:14
Sully Shaheed
Like something's got to give, right?
00:43:14
Chilly
Yeah.
00:43:15
Chilly
Something's got to give.
00:43:18
Sully Shaheed
Something's got to give.
00:43:18
Chilly
Or... da Something's got to give. Yeah.
00:43:20
Sully Shaheed
Huh.
00:43:21
Chilly
Yeah.
00:43:22
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
Player Impact and Division Analysis
00:43:23
Chilly
Yeah. ah let's let's just Let's just make Sarah Doherty the X Factor.
00:43:29
Sully Shaheed
Okay. right. All right.
00:43:32
Chilly
let's let's make her Let's make her the X Factor here. But no, I mean,
00:43:35
Sully Shaheed
She is coming off a ah championship last year, right?
00:43:39
Chilly
de she is. She is.
00:43:41
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, so there's some championship pedigree being added to the squad. So yeah, I like that answer as an X factor. like that. I can definitely get behind that.
00:43:53
Sully Shaheed
I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. You are whipping that camera's ass, you good? All
00:44:01
Chilly
i'm a I'm doing some things. I'm doing some things here.
00:44:04
Sully Shaheed
right, fair, fair.
00:44:08
Sully Shaheed
Okay, well, Sarah Doherty, X Factor, Frank and fraing Beans, can they take it home? Moving on to the B division, four Seattle teams.
00:44:15
Chilly
Who's your... Hey, for you, who's your steamer's X-Factor?
00:44:21
Sully Shaheed
The Steamers?
00:44:22
Chilly
Yeah.
00:44:23
Sully Shaheed
Oh, it's it's Josh. He'll shoot you in or shoot you out. Period.
00:44:29
Chilly
Do people know Josh?
00:44:29
Sully Shaheed
If you can line them up in the middle of the court, drain them.
00:44:32
Chilly
I wonder if people in the community, do they know Josh Hirschman?
00:44:38
Sully Shaheed
ah they do they know now because I mean you know every team stinks so no matter what team you post your team stinks so I mean you know but they don't know about Josh they're gonna learn today so but no I mean you know if they can rotate well I think they'll be well off and again like you said they give up a lot of second chance points you know because they're piss poor rebounders they stink at it but if
00:45:03
Chilly
there's no there's There's no Dennis Rodman on that team.
00:45:06
Sully Shaheed
No, no, they they cannot rebound a fucking, no, they they suck at rebounding. um But other than that, I mean, again, Josh shoot you in or shoot you out. 100%. He's the C division Chris Flores.
00:45:22
Sully Shaheed
Listen, he's going to put the team on his back and shoot you in or shoot you out.
00:45:23
Chilly
How can you? How can you? How can
00:45:29
Sully Shaheed
He is the reason you lost or you won. It's him.
00:45:31
Chilly
you?
00:45:33
Sully Shaheed
Period. Period.
00:45:34
Chilly
and did
00:45:37
Sully Shaheed
You like that one? That's Josh Flores right there.
00:45:44
Chilly
Josh Flores.
00:45:48
Chilly
Oh my god. Does he even know it?
00:45:50
Sully Shaheed
I'm glad you appreciated that one.
00:45:51
Chilly
Can he even speak Spanish?
00:45:55
Sully Shaheed
I highly doubt that.
00:45:56
Chilly
Same.
00:45:58
Sully Shaheed
highly doubt it, but.
00:45:58
Chilly
Fucking same.
00:46:00
Sully Shaheed
I don't know. There's not a lot of all or nothing players in Whirly Ball, right? Like. I mean, Flores stands out as he's shooting you in or shooting you out.
00:46:12
Sully Shaheed
That's the guy, right? Can we think of any other examples like that?
00:46:16
Chilly
I think back in the day, you know, a couple years ago, you'd probably say, Timmy would shoot you in or shoot you out.
00:46:21
Sully Shaheed
Oh, yeah, that's another good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:46:24
Chilly
but For sure.
00:46:26
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, Timmy's up there. Yeah. Huh. We'll roll that we're all that in around in our head.
00:46:31
Chilly
Uh...
00:46:33
Sully Shaheed
But, again, the division. um Four Seattle teams that you have to deal with. With ah Miami, Chicago, and Texas being the other three representatives. um As far as May 26th, I don't know the fifth member of that Texas team.
00:46:54
Sully Shaheed
So, did any updates on that? Because I offered. I offered, but I didn't hear anything back. I'm take my offer back.
00:47:03
Chilly
um Not that I know of.
00:47:07
Sully Shaheed
So I won't ask about that team, but I will ask you about the Miami Outlaws.
00:47:13
Chilly
The Outlaws. Dolly!
00:47:14
Sully Shaheed
Their return to the game.
00:47:18
Sully Shaheed
Dale!
00:47:19
Chilly
Dolly!
00:47:19
Sully Shaheed
For the key, key, for the key!
00:47:21
Chilly
the key! For the key!
00:47:23
Sully Shaheed
For key, for the key!
00:47:24
Chilly
What? but key
00:47:27
Sully Shaheed
And you know the members of that team. So what is the X factor? What is the keys to victory? How can Miami take home a B banner this year?
00:47:35
Chilly
How well does Nanshut not playing?
00:47:41
Chilly
He is one of the... he I mean, obviously, he's one of the best shots on Worley Ball. he's got ah He's got a great shot.
00:47:49
Chilly
How long will it take him to knock off the rust? Can he knock off the rust?
00:47:53
Sully Shaheed
Right.
00:47:55
Chilly
You know, so, and then obviously with them, uh, driving will be a little bit tough. Uh, again, it's just, yeah, especially they're still playing with Carl, right? Too.
00:48:07
Sully Shaheed
Yes.
00:48:08
Chilly
Yeah. So, um, Ben Hanna will be a huge help to them. Um, so, but it's going to be how well can, how well can man shoot and, uh,
00:48:24
Chilly
And what that looks like. So it'll be cool to watch. But,
00:48:27
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, they're always a good breed Worley Ball, that's for sure.
00:48:31
Chilly
yeah. So how well can Nance shoot? And then ah can they play just about this much of defense?
00:48:40
Sully Shaheed
Oh, just a modicum of defense is all they need.
00:48:42
Chilly
Just, yeah. Yeah, just a little bit. just Just a little bit.
00:48:45
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:48:46
Chilly
You getting a dab?
00:48:47
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:48:47
Chilly
Dap up?
00:48:49
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, I had to dab up girl. What are you wanting to do
00:48:52
Chilly
Dap up? Yeah, can they play about can they play defense for a couple possessions?
00:48:54
Sully Shaheed
Dab her up.
00:48:58
Chilly
A couple.
00:48:59
Sully Shaheed
Okay, just a couple and just give Nan at the top of the key because you know he ain't playing no defense.
00:49:00
Chilly
Just a couple. Yeah.
00:49:05
Sully Shaheed
So get that out of your brain.
00:49:06
Chilly
No. No.
00:49:09
Sully Shaheed
Get that out of your head right now.
00:49:12
Chilly
So Nat can fall into that.
00:49:12
Sully Shaheed
and Okay, okay.
00:49:14
Chilly
I'm going to shoot you in, I'm going to shoot you out.
00:49:16
Sully Shaheed
I was gonna say, i think he falls in that category.
00:49:16
Chilly
Yeah.
00:49:18
Sully Shaheed
I'm shooting you in or shooting you out. Simple as that.
00:49:22
Chilly
you You may have a teammate that's similar. What?
00:49:28
Chilly
yeah it
00:49:33
Sully Shaheed
Billy. there's a There's a phrase at the center and it's called Billy Ball.
00:49:41
Sully Shaheed
Billy will shoot you in or shoot you right the fuck out of a game. We've lost plenty of games because of that man. We've also won plenty of games because of that man.
00:49:52
Chilly
it's got to be ah It's got to be in the name, right? Billy?
00:49:56
Sully Shaheed
Yes, it it's got to be a Billy thing, right?
00:49:58
Chilly
It's got to be a Billy thing, right?
00:50:01
Sully Shaheed
like you I mean, you've practiced with us for the past five months. How many times have I been coming down as the fourth guy with the entire side of the court to myself and demanding the ball, waving there with my fucking nutsack out of the damn cart, and this dude is shooting between five scoops instead of just, here you go.
00:50:22
Sully Shaheed
Oh, you're wide open? That's cool.
00:50:23
Chilly
But Sully, he had a window.
00:50:23
Sully Shaheed
No.
00:50:27
Sully Shaheed
But Sully, he had a window.
00:50:27
Chilly
it
00:50:31
Sully Shaheed
Okay.
00:50:32
Chilly
yeah
00:50:33
Sully Shaheed
All
00:50:36
Chilly
oh
00:50:36
Sully Shaheed
right.
00:50:37
Sully Shaheed
Let me give you two eight. Go ahead.
00:50:37
Chilly
Or when or when he gets blocked when he gets blocked, it's because they're extending.
00:50:41
Sully Shaheed
Extension.
00:50:42
Sully Shaheed
Extension.
00:50:42
Chilly
We're extending.
00:50:43
Chilly
works
00:50:43
Sully Shaheed
Him or Ricky. Him and Ricky. You blocked, you extend it.
00:50:47
Chilly
They sound like the rest of the country. They're extending.
00:50:54
Sully Shaheed
Did he call it?
00:50:55
Chilly
we're not going to act like We're not going to act like Clint Fisher or Driscoll don't stand about 10 feet out their car.
00:51:01
Sully Shaheed
Driscoll don't know what the seat is.
00:51:05
Sully Shaheed
Like, that seat is there for show.
00:51:08
Chilly
i'll stop it I'll stop extending what we call offensive extension.
00:51:08
Sully Shaheed
That dude is always extending.
00:51:16
Sully Shaheed
Listen, if I'm reffing any Michigan game and Kalen shoots, I'm calling offensive extension. He's got the biggest jump shot in whirly ball. Why your ass got to lead a seat every time you shoot?
00:51:29
Chilly
Hey man, leave your cousin alone.
00:51:29
Sully Shaheed
Why? and Why?
00:51:31
Chilly
All right.
00:51:31
Sully Shaheed
Tell me. Explain.
00:51:34
Chilly
and man leave your leave your cousin alone
00:51:39
Sully Shaheed
That's my family, so I get to talk about them. If there's anybody that gets to talk shit about Austin and Kalen, it's me. Okay?
00:51:49
Chilly
hey
00:51:49
Sully Shaheed
Jump shooting ass motherfucker. I'm going give you two A-teams, chill.
00:51:55
Chilly
all right
00:51:56
Sully Shaheed
And I need a way they can win A. I need to know. How can,
00:52:05
Sully Shaheed
how can the Atlanta revival win A?
00:52:11
Chilly
ah The way they can win A, um Jacob is going to have to play well. um His first year in A, playing in probably one of the toughest environments to play in.
00:52:26
Chilly
um Going to Seattle um Can he do enough I mean obviously the other four are really good With with Kyle Mears Batanya and Beckett um
00:52:39
Sully Shaheed
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:52:41
Chilly
But They can't make up for him In A It's just hard So again and again without They don't have a center either So the they will come in with some You know, some rust, but the though they'll they'll get rid of it pretty quick in driving. So, um yeah, I think it's going to kind of just hinge on Jacob. I mean, we obviously know they got a lot of guys who could put ball in bucket.
00:53:09
Sully Shaheed
Oh, yeah.
00:53:09
Chilly
mere You know, Mears is obviously going to be really good driving those cars.
00:53:14
Chilly
They're going a really good team. um But it's really going to just kind ah fall on, you know, can Jacob give them enough? you know that they need to to get them over the hill.
00:53:27
Sully Shaheed
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I like that answer. That's really good. That's really good. um How can
00:53:36
Sully Shaheed
the New World Order win A? I'm putting it your hands now.
00:53:41
Chilly
<unk> it
00:53:41
Sully Shaheed
How can your team win a
00:53:45
Chilly
How can we win a Well, I think we need to be a little bit taller on defense. We're pretty short back there. um it
00:53:57
Sully Shaheed
ah you you want to A? You want to talk to me about that height thing on defense? Can you elaborate
00:54:04
Chilly
Yeah.
00:54:07
Chilly
No, but...
00:54:08
Sully Shaheed
you got a but You got a bunch of Jay Fannyas back there on defense.
00:54:10
Chilly
je
00:54:11
Sully Shaheed
little little Little tiny guys with weapons in their pocket, apparently.
00:54:12
Chilly
Yeah. Yeah. I think think Patrick and and... He's got a knife. He's from Jersey. He's got knife.
00:54:20
Sully Shaheed
He's from Jersey.
00:54:21
Chilly
Jersey.
00:54:21
Sully Shaheed
He's got a knife.
00:54:22
Chilly
Jersey Shore.
00:54:23
Sully Shaheed
Jersey.
00:54:26
Chilly
ah No, but seriously. ah ah For us, it's just going to probably, you know, just do the little things. You know, transition will always always be key.
00:54:36
Chilly
um You know, wall, you know, wall be key. Driving will be big there. You know, we won't have as much of a driving,
00:54:51
Chilly
disadvantage as most of the other centers. I mean, we will, because Seattle, obviously, it's still Seattle and it's their cars. um
00:54:58
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, just minor adjustment, yeah.
00:55:01
Chilly
Yeah, and I mean, you know, all of us, all of us can put ball in bucket.
00:55:01
Sully Shaheed
Well, minor, minor. Yeah.
00:55:06
Chilly
um You know, can we can we just catch back up to the speed of the speed of the game for A? um And then, you know, it'd be good, you know, just basically do the little things, you know, cover that and try not to get walled in our key and,
00:55:25
Sully Shaheed
Brother.
00:55:27
Chilly
you know, let's, you know, but, ah you know, it's going to be good, you know, just rotating quick, transitioning quick, keep the court awareness high, football and bucket, you know, so, you know, can the other, can the other shooters carry as well, you know,
00:55:28
Sully Shaheed
Don't bring up those repressed memories.
00:55:42
Sully Shaheed
Good.
00:55:51
Chilly
So it'll be fun.
00:55:51
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, absolutely. It'll be fun. That's all that matters at the end of the day, Chill, is that we have fun, right? We're here to have fun. We're here to have fun. I have to keep reminding myself, even though i'm the first game on, the last game off on a fucking day, but I'm here to have fun, right? We're here to have fucking fun.
00:56:10
Sully Shaheed
Sorry. It's a lot of censors. I gotta make sure that don't curse that much.
00:56:14
Chilly
we're the mean We're the mean edition. We don't have centers.
00:56:19
Sully Shaheed
You're fuck right. You're right. Chill, I think we need a quick recap. Because if you didn't tune into the last episode, you may and may not have heard me because of my microphone issues.
00:56:25
Chilly
Thank you.
00:56:29
Sully Shaheed
However, they've been rectified. and think we need a recap of who we chose to win every division real quick before we get into the last controversial topic of the day, which will be a quick one. It's more of opinionated one, but a quick one.
00:56:41
Sully Shaheed
But we need to recap the winners of each division. Who do you got in D? Got D3, Seattle Team Orange. Only stands, Seattle D2, D1. The average shows that Tri-City All-Stars team, the winners of the name game of the team name, all smashed, no pass from Chicago.
00:57:04
Sully Shaheed
And Wiffle Stompers, Texas D1, who are you taking?
00:57:09
Chilly
I went with the Tri-City.
00:57:14
Chilly
went with the Mixed Molk team. I went with our boys. and hot
00:57:17
Sully Shaheed
I'm in lockstep with you. I'm in lockstep. We're going to go put on the books. We're going to bet the Tri-City All-Stars to take D. NC, of course, Chicago represented by who's going to sweep the entire tournament anyway, Death by Taco, Franken-Beans.
00:57:32
Chilly
That's what I heard.
00:57:34
Sully Shaheed
Right, we don't even need to name off the rest of the teams, right? We can just move on to B.
00:57:39
Chilly
Allegedly.
00:57:40
Sully Shaheed
right, for for for argument's sake,
00:57:40
Chilly
Allegedly.
00:57:43
Sully Shaheed
Frank and Beans, the women, and I think Dalton's on that team, right? Is he re easy rolling with them again?
00:57:48
Chilly
no no No, he's with the Seattle team.
00:57:51
Sully Shaheed
Or he's rolling Seattle?
00:57:52
Chilly
Yes, sir.
00:57:52
Sully Shaheed
Seattle team. Okay, right, right, right, right.
00:57:53
Chilly
Yep.
00:57:53
Sully Shaheed
ah We got the two Seattle teams, the Untouchables, the Narwhals. Of course, two Cleveland representatives, Cleveland Seat, classic. Cleveland Steamers.
00:58:05
Sully Shaheed
From Minnesota, you got the mean things. I'm sorry, from Michigan, you got the mean things. And from Minnesota, of course, Chef Luke and the Whirly Sirs. Who you taking and see?
00:58:15
Chilly
So I believe for this one, I picked a Chicago-Cleveland final. I'm
00:58:19
Sully Shaheed
You did, yes, you did. But who's taking the gold?
00:58:25
Chilly
taking the gold. ah um the oddest I'll just be a homer here.
00:58:28
Sully Shaheed
Who's bringing the banner? Who's bringing the banner?
00:58:33
Chilly
I believe one of the Cleveland C teams is bringing it home.
00:58:39
Sully Shaheed
Nothing wrong with being a homer, chill. There's nothing wrong with being a homer.
00:58:43
Chilly
Yeah.
00:58:43
Sully Shaheed
Because again, once again, we are in lockstep. And of course, i am taking my own goddamn team, the retrofitted Cleveland Seat. Because, you know, I got 80 plus years of experience on my team, man.
00:58:58
Sully Shaheed
You can't beat that. Between two players.
00:59:04
Sully Shaheed
Don't forget that.
00:59:05
Chilly
We have a combined age of more than 120.
00:59:17
Sully Shaheed
The B team, Seattle sending four. Lazy Sunday, Wu Crane Clan, Chill Squatch, Stick Jockeys, and Miami bringing the outlaws back. Manoworld from Chicago, and the A team is actually AB team from Texas.
00:59:34
Sully Shaheed
Who you got? Who's taking B? Who's taking the banner?
00:59:39
Chilly
Who's taking the banner?
00:59:41
Sully Shaheed
Who's taking the banner?
00:59:44
Chilly
Who's taking the banner? i believe with this one, I did i roll? i think this one, I did go with the B3. So would have been Justin DeWitt, Kiefer, Vaughn, Gage, and Stan.
01:00:05
Chilly
i believe they will...
01:00:06
Sully Shaheed
Stand.
01:00:08
Chilly
I just kicked Stan.
01:00:09
Sully Shaheed
Just kick stand.
01:00:12
Chilly
I believe in the finals they would be playing against the B2 team with Steve Vogt, Jeff Jackson, Brandon Stewart, Adam Miller, and Sean Etchison. I believe is what I picked.
01:00:28
Sully Shaheed
Who's winning it?
01:00:31
Chilly
I'll go with DeWitt, Kiefer, Vaughn, Gage, and I just kickstand.
01:00:40
Sully Shaheed
Chili, we have to stop agreeing on things because I, too, am selecting Chill Squatch. So we're moving over to A, representing Seattle sitting three teams, the Ripple Effect, four up, laser focused, Michigan, 3-1-3, and the crash outs.
01:00:57
Sully Shaheed
Of course, your team, the New World Order, Atlanta bringing back the revival, Spare Parts from Texas, ah what an apropos name, right? And Blood in the Water from... Chicago making their A debut.
01:01:11
Sully Shaheed
Who's taking a Chile. Well,
01:01:14
Chilly
um So this one, taking us out of it, because I did take us out of it, I went with...
01:01:20
Sully Shaheed
ah you're playing.
01:01:21
Chilly
I did, i did. So, I know, but still...
01:01:22
Sully Shaheed
i mean, you're in.
01:01:25
Chilly
I'll take us out of it. i So this one, I believe, I had a Joe Tiffany... Joe Tiffany's team against the other Michigan team, which is Doug, Zach, your cousins, and Ben Heisel.
01:01:43
Chilly
I believe was my final.
01:01:45
Sully Shaheed
It's a good team. It's good fucking team.
01:01:47
Chilly
And then if the whole the homework the homer pick in me said we'll be playing Joe Tiffany's team in the final.
01:01:49
Sully Shaheed
They're all good teams. They're all good teams. all good teams.
01:01:58
Sully Shaheed
There's nothing with the homer pick. Ever. Ever. And again, i mean, I'm representing whoever Rafael is representing because this man always freaking wins A's somehow.
01:02:08
Chilly
Okay.
01:02:10
Sully Shaheed
So whatever team Rafael is on, that's who I'm taking.
01:02:11
Chilly
no
01:02:13
Sully Shaheed
It's Rafael's team.
01:02:15
Chilly
it's rough used
01:02:17
Sully Shaheed
It's Raphael's team. So I'm just going to go with Raphael on this one.
01:02:20
Chilly
I mean, Raphael is actually on Noah's team, and they they got they got some bum-ass guy named James Gill.
01:02:21
Sully Shaheed
Wherever he's playing, he's winning.
01:02:25
Sully Shaheed
Oh.
01:02:30
Sully Shaheed
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
01:02:32
Chilly
Yeah.
01:02:32
Sully Shaheed
About that.
01:02:33
Chilly
James is playing on Noah and Raphael's team. They could be co-captains.
01:02:38
Sully Shaheed
That's fine. As long as James Gill knows his role is Raphael's team.
01:02:42
Chilly
Yeah.
01:02:42
Sully Shaheed
All right.
01:02:44
Chilly
Yeah.
01:02:44
Sully Shaheed
Play the background. All right. Congratulations to the Hall of Fame. Being the greatest of all time. Whatever. It's 2025. And it's Rafael Steve.
01:02:56
Chilly
Yeah.
01:02:56
Sully Shaheed
Fucking deal with it.
01:03:00
Sully Shaheed
I like all those selections. Speaking of Hall of Fame, chill. I think we got a quick take on um how we feel about... a certain inclusion and exclusion of the Wollie Ball Hall of Fame.
01:03:07
Chilly
Hmm.
01:03:11
Sully Shaheed
As I do believe every year we nominate, or not nominate, but ah send in a new member of the Hall of Fame. And for years, there's been a controversial one in the Hall of Fame. ah You want to break that down for me?
Whirly Ball Hall of Fame Debate
01:03:25
Chilly
I mean, like, we don't have enough time to really get into my true truth thoughts and feelings on this. um
01:03:33
Sully Shaheed
It can be the the the linchpin for another podcast. So when we return from Nationals, yeah, we will return from Nationals with fresh thoughts, recaps, and more controversy we can stir up because we got to keep this thing going.
01:03:37
Chilly
Oh, it's i think it's... I think it's definitely the linchpin, but...
01:03:49
Chilly
i just I just don't. I think the Hall of Fame needs to be reworked. I don't have a problem with anybody who's in the Hall of Fame, like so don't get that twisted. think everybody's worthy of being in there except for one person, and it's actually from our center.
01:04:04
Chilly
so that that's
01:04:04
Sully Shaheed
Thank you.
01:04:06
Chilly
so But I just don't agree with the way it's set up. I don't agree with how it's voted. Yeah. You're basically telling me if nobody knows anything about Whirly Ball and they just look at the Hall of Fame, you would just think it was full of... You would just think it's Seattle and Michigan players playing in it.
01:04:24
Chilly
Are we going to act like that no nobody from Texas belongs in the Hall of Fame? Are act like nobody from Atlanta belongs in the Hall of Fame? I mean, we we certainly have a lot of better older players back in the day who who helped Michigan get their start.
01:04:41
Chilly
We're going to act like they... They don't belong.
01:04:46
Chilly
um we Again, I'm not taking a shot at this, but like we created they all suddenly created the Lifetime Achievement Award. There are people that get that award.
01:04:58
Chilly
There are people that definitely get that award in the Hall of Fame. But, I mean, again, here, I'll just say it. are Are we going to act like that Billy O doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame?
01:05:12
Sully Shaheed
You get no qualms from me, sir.
01:05:15
Chilly
Regardless if he's my dad or not, like, are we going to really act like that dude doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame? Really?
01:05:21
Sully Shaheed
My dad, bro, my dad.
01:05:22
Chilly
Really? Really. i mean, again, we're going to watch another Seattle or Michigan player go into the Hall of Fame. We're going to act like pet like Gary from Texas doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame?
01:05:33
Chilly
We're
01:05:35
Sully Shaheed
That's another good one.
01:05:37
Chilly
going act like Brad Battenia, who was Atlanta's, like, best player for however the fuck long?
01:05:44
Sully Shaheed
God knows how long, right?
01:05:45
Chilly
Does it belong in the Hall of Fame? Like, we're telling the history of Worley Ball without people from Texas, Atlanta, Cleveland, eventually Chicago.
01:05:57
Sully Shaheed
Sure.
01:05:58
Chilly
It's just Seattle, Michigan players. it Again, the way the way it's done.
01:06:03
Sully Shaheed
There's a sprinkle of Cleveland. There's Ricky and Junior, which you know we that's who you were alluding to.
01:06:07
Chilly
Again,
01:06:07
Sully Shaheed
let's Let's just rip the Band-Aid off.
01:06:08
Chilly
yeah. Yeah, junior won Hall of Fame, 100%.
01:06:09
Sully Shaheed
Junior does not belong in the Hall of Fame. He's done absolutely nothing to deserve that.
01:06:12
Chilly
ah hundred percent
01:06:14
Sully Shaheed
He was just old. And that's why you put him in. He did nothing for the sport.
01:06:18
Chilly
That's why riy Ricky, Ricky.
01:06:20
Sully Shaheed
He did nothing to operate it. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
01:06:23
Chilly
Yeah. Ricky, Ricky, he is Rick's cousin.
01:06:24
Sully Shaheed
He was old.
01:06:27
Sully Shaheed
Yep, that's it. And Ricky is a Hall of Famer for business reasons.
01:06:29
Chilly
He. Correct.
01:06:33
Sully Shaheed
And, you know, there's some player accolades as well. But Junior, no effing way.
01:06:36
Chilly
Junior, Junior, Junior should have the Lifetime Achievement Award.
01:06:39
Sully Shaheed
You're away. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Without question. If you've been playing the game for X amount of years, that is an award that you deserve.
01:06:43
Chilly
So.
01:06:49
Sully Shaheed
Period. You know, Dave got it.
01:06:50
Chilly
Period.
01:06:51
Sully Shaheed
Little Dave got it last year. He deserved it.
01:06:53
Chilly
Yeah.
01:06:53
Sully Shaheed
You know, and and recognizing him is perfect.
01:06:54
Chilly
but But also for Dave, but also like little Dave plays the game for fun.
01:07:00
Sully Shaheed
He does.
01:07:01
Sully Shaheed
And he has a lot of fun playing it.
01:07:01
Chilly
He does.
01:07:02
Chilly
And he has a lot of fun playing it. And that man and the biggest smile playing it. And that's great. There are people that should get that award. I mean, there are people that went into the Hall of Fame that didn't give a fuck they were going to the Hall of Fame.
01:07:19
Sully Shaheed
Hmm.
01:07:19
Chilly
like We're voting in current players,
01:07:23
Sully Shaheed
Yes.
01:07:24
Chilly
which which which is great, but if we're voting in current players, why shouldn't the current players not have a vote?
01:07:32
Chilly
Or why should not representatives don't have a vote? You mean to tell me people in the Hall of Fame know what these people are actually doing and playing?
01:07:41
Sully Shaheed
Right. Right.
01:07:43
Chilly
So do we want to take a guess on who may go into the Hall of Fame this year?
01:07:50
Sully Shaheed
Insert Seattle player here.
01:07:52
Chilly
Yeah, I would assume it's Joe Tiffany, right?
01:07:56
Sully Shaheed
i mean, if Jeremy got in last year, it's gotta to be Joe Tiffany at this point, right?
01:07:59
Chilly
I would think so. and Unless there's some seattle ah Seattle fucking Luminati that's keeping them out.
01:08:07
Sully Shaheed
The Illuminati.
01:08:11
Chilly
But, like, again, we're going to sit here and act like some like a Texas player.
01:08:11
Sully Shaheed
Yeah.
01:08:16
Chilly
Like I said, how is Gary not on the Hall of Fame? After all the shit he's done for the game? Are you fucking kidding me?
01:08:25
Chilly
Again, man. like
01:08:26
Sully Shaheed
yeah
01:08:26
Chilly
Again. What? It's just it is bullshit. it's justs all It's all pure bullshit. The way it's done is bullshit.
01:08:37
Chilly
like It is what it is.
01:08:38
Sully Shaheed
It's another thing in Whirly Ball, just like a limited, that we're going to have to reevaluate. I mean, like, I feel. You know, and and and it's a great time to do it because as the sport grows, like, the amount of change that we've occurred or incurred from like just seven or eight years ago, you know, with the live streaming, with with podcasting, with different centers opening, ah different opportunities to go to nationals through a different center. Like we're going to be in Minnesota one year and that's cool.
01:09:06
Sully Shaheed
You know, like as we grow as a community in all these different avenues, I feel like the integrity of the game and things that are attached to it need to be evaluated as well.
01:09:18
Sully Shaheed
So Unlimited was one of them.
01:09:19
Chilly
Yeah, so like...
01:09:20
Sully Shaheed
The Hall of Fame is another one.
01:09:23
Chilly
Yeah, and again, like...
01:09:23
Sully Shaheed
Let's do it.
01:09:24
Chilly
Again here, you don't need to win the biggest prize in your sport to be in the Hall of Fame. We can name X amount of athletes who never won the Super Bowl, and NBA championship.
01:09:40
Sully Shaheed
oh Sure, yeah, of course.
01:09:40
Chilly
So, again, is But they're in the Hall of Fame.
01:09:41
Sully Shaheed
But they're in the Hall of Fame.
01:09:43
Chilly
It shouldn't a requirement. I get it. Seattle and Michigan... Often will have the best players. I get it. Or that's at least how it was in the past.
01:09:54
Chilly
I get it. But again, it's not like the NFL when they're voting for the Hall of Fame is like, well, I guess we're just going to put in the entire Kansas City Chiefs.
01:10:05
Sully Shaheed
Right. I mean, there's a prerequisite for the NFL. You got to be gone out the sport for five years before you even think about you.
01:10:10
Chilly
Yeah. Right. So...
01:10:13
Sully Shaheed
We're putting people in the hall of fame in their prime.
01:10:16
Chilly
Literally in their prime.
01:10:18
Sully Shaheed
In their prime. They're going into the hall of fame. That, Tell me the logic behind that. Like, let's put Patrick Mahomes in the Hall of Fame right now. Actually, let's do it three seasons ago, even though he's just entering his prime.
01:10:31
Chilly
Literally.
01:10:31
Sully Shaheed
That's what Worley Ball does.
01:10:33
Chilly
Yep. Yeah. Like I said, the system's broke.
01:10:35
Sully Shaheed
Make it make sense.
01:10:36
Chilly
The system's broke. I don't want to take away anything. Again, everybody who's in the Hall of Fame belongs there, minus who we discussed earlier.
01:10:44
Sully Shaheed
Stans Jr.
01:10:45
Chilly
ye But again here, the the way it's voted and again, you know, it's, it's just the good old boy system. You know, if you're not part of the group, you're not in.
01:10:57
Chilly
If literally, if you're not part of the group, you're, you're, you're not in.
01:10:58
Sully Shaheed
Fair.
01:11:00
Chilly
So again, if anybody wants, if anybody in the hall of fame wants to come up to me and have an honest discussion about it, come find me.
01:11:11
Sully Shaheed
Facts.
01:11:11
Chilly
But like,
01:11:12
Sully Shaheed
facts And you'd be wrong.
01:11:12
Chilly
I can't tell you the number of Seattle players and people in general who thought Billy was already in the Hall of Fame.
01:11:24
Chilly
And you would be wrong.
01:11:27
Sully Shaheed
Oh, Lord. Well, before we get fired up for another 45 minutes, I think, again, that deserves an honest discussion on a different version of our podcast. ah Probably post-nationals.
01:11:38
Sully Shaheed
We can bring some stuff like that up so we can just go on and on and on and on and on about it because we totally can. But you and I have been conversing for about an hour or so. I think that's going to provide enough in-flight entertainment for those with shorter flights.
01:11:51
Sully Shaheed
Not for us because our flight is five hours. So... um Might have to listen to several different podcasts on the way, but um I hope that we have a fun, safe,
01:12:04
Sully Shaheed
trip to Seattle, a, a, an enjoyable time at nationals. Um, those are competing. We wish you all the best of luck unless you're not on my team. Then fuck the rest of you. Actually, I don't really
Conclusion and Memorial Day Tribute
01:12:15
Sully Shaheed
care.
01:12:15
Sully Shaheed
No, but it not seriously, but I look forward to seeing everybody and, uh, just having a good time in Seattle. Uh, chill. Any closing thoughts before we go ahead and get on up out of here?
01:12:25
Chilly
Oh, excuse me. Um, everybody safe travels. Uh, so again here, man, safe travels from wherever you're traveling from, however you're traveling. If you're doing, you know, plane, car, train, if you're local, even if you're local, safe travels, um,
01:12:42
Sully Shaheed
Yeah, cuz you know it's out of towners don't know how to drive. So we're, you might get hit on the sidewalk.
01:12:47
Chilly
facts uh right i since this is memorial day again thank you for those who have served thank you for your service um again if you're having a cookout today have fun eat a lot of food enjoy your families your friends uh but again man safe travels for everybody going to seattle can't wait to see y'all we love y'all and uh we'll see you soon
01:12:49
Sully Shaheed
Yes,
01:12:54
Sully Shaheed
yes, 100%. Yes. hundred
01:13:03
Sully Shaheed
yeah
01:13:12
Sully Shaheed
Hell yeah. And on that note, we're going to close it up and, uh, nationals time. It's almost here. Two days. Let's get it.
01:13:19
Chilly
Peace.
01:13:19
Sully Shaheed
See you then.