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Sully Shaheed: Welcome in to the Saturday edition of the DFS Deli. We are joined today by, of course, by two of my best friends on the planet, Baker and Chill, to bring you a special secret menu where we break down all the under-the-radar plays on the slate and, of course, dissect the chalk, see if it's good chalk, bad chalk, break up the games you want to target and avoid, and help you navigate to the top of your DFS tournaments. So pull up the secret menu.
Sully Shaheed: Grab a chair, turn those open signs on, because this is the DFS Deli, secret menu.
Sully Shaheed: Welcome in to the DFS Deli. I, of course, am the proprietor of this delicatessen, and I am joined on this fine Saturday afternoon, breaking down the final descent into the main slate for Sunday with Chill Baker.
Sully Shaheed: Welcome to work. Thanks for joining me. Chill, how's everything going? You're fresh off the, uh, just waking up, uh,
Chilly: Yeah, I've been up for a grand total of 40 minutes, I think. But we're good, man. We did the hair. We brushed the teeth. got some water. ah that that's That's really all I need, truthfully.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I mean, you know, keep it simple.
Chilly: So, I mean, i'm ready to di I'm ready to dive on in, man.
Sully Shaheed: Baker, we caught you before your shift. Thanks for joining me on this fine Saturday afternoon. How's everything going with you?
Sully Shaheed: Is he muted now? What are we doing?
Chilly: oh oh no
Sully Shaheed: What
Baker: I did mute myself. My bad. Oopsie.
Sully Shaheed: the hell? Jesus Christ.
Baker: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was coughing, so I didn't want to hear and I forgot to unmute myself. My bad. That's my fault.
Baker: I'm sorry.
Sully Shaheed: ah God.
Baker: I'm sorry. What I was saying is Thursday pissed me off. I'm still pissed off for Thursday. Like, I am literally livid from watching Thursday night football. And the only reason I'm pissed is because they weren't on the main slate.
Baker: Like, the way to jam in.
Chilly: you wouldn' have play you wouldn't have applied You wouldn't have played Kyle Pitts anyway.
Baker: I would played Kirk O'Chainz.
Sully Shaheed: I would play cow pits.
Baker: I would have played Kirk O'Chainz, which probably would have put me on the Kyle Pitts.
Chilly: ah You're not allowed to play Kyle Pitts. All your blasphemy. This dude sucks and blah, blah, blah, blah. So you don't get to appreciate that 44-point burger he dropped.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, i made some ah I made some small prop bets on Kyle Pitts specifically, and apparently I set them too low. So ah that that kind of way too low.
Baker: Way too low.
Sully Shaheed: I put a hot 10 on Kyle Pitts anytime and plus 60 yards. I should have tripled that and would have been a little more profitable.
Baker: Yes.
Sully Shaheed: So.
Chilly: you should have bet his You should have put a hot 10 on his three-touchdown prop.
Baker: Yes, you should.
Chilly: You would have made like $300. No. No, it probably
Baker: Lord Jesus.
Sully Shaheed: That was way more than that. Three TDs.
Chilly: now no it would it a probably only think it only had him at like or okay think
Sully Shaheed: That's still a synonym for absurdity. But again, we we're not we're not worried about Thursday.
Chilly: facts
Sully Shaheed: We're worried about the 13 gamers. The big main slate eight early five late. We're going to break it all down for you here on the secret menu of the DFS deli. Let me go ahead and get into some injury news real quick for those that want to know about the shakers and movers of the Sunday slate.
Sully Shaheed: So um we do have two two new starters for the slate. Old man Philip Rivers is starting officially starting.
Baker: Let's go, i got oh
Sully Shaheed: So Seattle's defense is a lock. um Just go ahead and pay up for that. Kenny Pickett will get to invoke the revenge dagger for Sunday as he is officially starting for the Raiders.
Sully Shaheed: Mark Andrews, who was questionable leading into the week, is good to go. If you care anything about old man out of Camara, he is officially out. The Browns will be missing the Chief and Dylan Sampson for the week.
Sully Shaheed: T Higgins officially out opening up some value, which we of course discuss here. No starving Marvin due to a heel injury. Mason Taylor, if you cared about any jets, him and brought Brady cook are the starters this week. I mean, he's the starting quarterback. So Jacksonville's defense is right alongside Seattle's defense when it comes to a key plays at the defensive side. But those are all your big movers and shakers. We're waiting on, um,
Sully Shaheed: ah the Washington running back and Josh Jacobs, who might shake up the slate just a little bit if he is out. um So yeah, let's ah let's get into it, man. We're going to talk at the chalk report for the quarterback position, running back position, wide receivers, tight ends, defense, of course.
Sully Shaheed: see who we want to jam in, see if there's somebody flying under the radar. Let's see what we can do. So, Chill, I know you have some ownership projections um brought up. If you want to break down some of the DraftKings plays for us at the top, and I will look up what we got cooking on FanDuel and see if we can maneuver through that we we'll see how We'll see how both sites compare to one another.
Chilly: Yeah. I got both up, if you want me to do both. um but for
Sully Shaheed: How about that?
Chilly: Yeah, so DraftKings right now, it's basically really spread out. Baker kind of mentioned it off air. Right now, your top three highest owned quarterbacks on the slate, DraftKings-wise, is you're looking at Lamar, Jackson, CJ Stroud, and Stafford are your top three. And then you kind of get into a weird area of Mariota, Dart, and Lawrence kind of all coming in together.
Chilly: If we jump over to the old FanDuel, FanDuel, a little bit different. You're looking at Statford, Purdy, Lawrence, and then you're kind of looking in that same area again, Dart, Straub, Mariota.
Chilly: um So that's what you're looking at this week in terms of that. But it's like, again, like we kind of mentioned, it your your quarterback ownership is really kind of, Flat. um So, I mean, you know, there will be some low own plays that we'll get into here for sure, but it's kind of a flat week this week. um if it Chances are, if a quarterback really does have a super good game, it's not going to bury.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah. Yeah. I can agree with that. And Baker, like you said, you alluded to it. Ownership is kind of flat at the quarterback position. Our differentiators are going to be at the wide receiver and running back position. um So tell me.
Sully Shaheed: Where are you starting? If you got one or two rosters to build, who's the guy?
Baker: Well, for me, I mentioned it on Wednesday's show and kind of seeing where ownership is. I still think this is a spot where we see Super Josh kind of take over because the Bills need it. The Bills absolutely need to win. Like if they want any shot at if they want any shot at you know winning this Division I and II, having any shot at you know really staying in contention for a wildcard spot, they need this game. So in a game that shootout potential. Yeah, Super Josh is a thousand percent with no ownership.
Baker: One of my bigger plays for me.
Sully Shaheed: Well, Baker, we're here to play devil's advocate on the contrarian show, the secret menu.
Baker: Mm-hmm.
Sully Shaheed: Let me give you the scenario where Josh Allen does Josh Allen things. It's when he's pushed, right?
Baker: Mm-hmm.
Sully Shaheed: When he has to go out and win the game. As we saw in the first matchup, um yeah, there was a couple um touchdowns in the second half of that game, but it really wasn't like the explosion spot we were looking for. Obviously, the Bills lost that game.
Sully Shaheed: This is a must win for the game or must win for the Bills. to even have a outside shot of taking the division, but their playoff lot playoff lives are still on the line. But the scenario where he needs to become Superman is if the Patriots want to push him. And we've seen the Patriots play football.
Sully Shaheed: They just kind of want to win.
Baker: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: They don't really hang it on people like we want them to. um I don't think, and I mean, I'd be happy to be wrong, but I don't think this scenario where ah the Patriots going to drop 35 to 40 and Josh Allen has to put on a Superman cape to put on, you know, the fantasy display that we want for tournament wins. um And we saw how Buffalo likes to win games as well. If Josh Allen doesn't become superhuman,
Sully Shaheed: it's they want to run the piss out of the ball and get the hell out of there. I mean, we saw it against the Steelers that if the bills are in control, it's not through J 17. It's through James cook. And I get it. The Patriots are number one against the run this year, but if the bills can establish what they want to do, they don't need Josh Allen. Like out of the, you know, eight wins that they have, I would say three of them were Josh Allen games. The rest were just wins. I mean, so I don't know if,
Sully Shaheed: he's going to be able to put up that tournament winning upside, especially at that price. So, but I get where you're coming from. If we see the Superman cape. Yes. If we don't, then you just wasted a lot of money on someone that you could have put somewhere else. um So chill bakers on J 17 to become Superman.
Sully Shaheed: Who are you looking forward to for this weekend?
Chilly: Yeah, one one thing I'll just kind of add to the Josh Allen ah take there. Again, obviously you're playing a super, you know, probably the one of the best players in the league at no ownership.
Chilly: So I get the logic. um My only concern would be is actually the Patriots run defense, which used to be really good, is now down in the 20s. um James Cook basically has been Jonathan Taylor without the touchdowns, if you really compare them side by side.
Chilly: So I think he might be better off just playing James Cook, and we'll kind of get to that in the running back section. But like you said, my only concern is is both teams come out and try to run the ball. Yeah.
Chilly: Again, the the way to beat the Bills is by running. The way to beat the Patriots is by running. So, like, I just can see this game being, you know, in the 20s, and you just don't know where the touchdowns are going on either side.
Chilly: So that's really my only concern in this game with which Josh Allen, truthfully. But, again, I get the logic. playing ah Again, i've I've said it before. You play a really good player in a questionable matchup. If he hits, then you don't really have to get different in your lineup, so I totally get it.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, you just fly past the field. And yes, James Cook would be Jonathan Taylor with the touchdowns, but he needs to stop, you know, um what's that thing? Fumbling. That would be pretty cool. um but
Chilly: i mean, and plus he has Josh Allen to steal his touchdowns as well.
Sully Shaheed: And Ty Johnson. but ah But yeah, outside of that, I mean, where where where are we looking? If we're going to feed into the ownership and then we'll get to the place that we want to kind of steer away from the ownership.
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, the two guys, there's three guys that I'm looking at. They're really not like too low on, but they'll still be lower than most. um The first one is Marcus Mariota.
Chilly: um the The Giants have, the Giants starting three defensive linemen are all not playing. um So he's going to have time. Plus, I believe he's averaged 30 rushing yards in all his starts as well.
Chilly: So he's got, you know, the old Russian floor. um And he's been averaging like 19 points when he starts. ah Terry McLaurin looks basically super healthy. um His last start, you know, he did kill the Broncos, which is a great defense. And Washington as a whole is basically like now kind of healthy.
Chilly: So, um and basically, i think we've seen it before. Jackson Dart is going to run no matter what the team says. Even if it's not a designed run, he's still going to run. So the Giants can certainly push this game on the other side.
Chilly: So I like Mariota. um If you want to get really gross, I'm kind of interested in Cam Ward. um I think, yep, hi yep, yep, yep.
Chilly: Cam Ward. The reason being is that San Francisco does not pressure quarterbacks whatsoever. um And sam basically, I think that's the more sneakiest shootout game on the slate, believe it or not, is going to be that one. Yeah, I know, right? It's gross. San Francisco is going to score.
Chilly: they they They are going to score. which is going to put the Titans in a in a passing situation. um And I can pull a little bit more stats here later. but um Plus, if you stack Cam Ward, you're getting a stack for under 10K, which allows you to put the Avengers around him.
Chilly: um So i'm I'm not against it in the slightest. Honestly, if you want to get really gross, you just do Cam Ward with double tight end with Chig and Gunner.
Sully Shaheed: What in the Billy maker type shit are you talking about right now?
Chilly: And but I'm telling you, man, for small field, for small, for a small field where it allows you to get Puka, a JSN and like a CMC, it works, man.
Sully Shaheed: um I'm here for this. I'm here for this. I'm here for all of this. Baker, can you get worse than cam ward doubles?
Baker: No, it's not even a cam ward double cam ward double tight end cam ward. What? No, I can't get worse than that.
Sully Shaheed: don't you want that Don't you want the guy that returns punts for them at least? so Maybe you get a cheap one in ah in dk like
Baker: No, no, no, no, I can't.
Chilly: The same.
Baker: I literally can't get grosser than that. Like, um, but this is a week in which I don't think there's as much perceived value in paying down, but I think that the strategy can still be paying down at quarterback to, you know, to get the Avengers as Chil said around, you know, get a lot of these expensive pieces that Jamar Chase, the Pukunikulis, the sun gods into your lineups.
Baker: I do like the Mariota call. I like the Jackson dark call just because we know once again, like you said, he's going to run. He has, you know, zero regard for his body. and his messed up head.
Baker: I think outside of the Cam Ward play, which obviously you know I love the Cam Ward play, absolutely love the Cam Ward play, but I think the the quarterback on the other side of Cam Ward is very viable as well.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Baker: um I do believe that Brock Burdee very much so in play this week. Obviously, Christian McCaffrey is going to garnish a lot of ownership and for right for right reasons. Tennessee's run defense has been a little bit better and their past defenses has just been leaking all over the place where early in the season, I think the perceived notion was that their run defense was terrible. And it was, but a lot of that was inflated by Jonathan Taylor doing Jonathan Taylor things.
Baker: What's really been the Achilles heel of this defense has been their past defense. So on Sunday afternoon, would it surprise me if Brock Purdy throws, you know, three or four touchdowns and like say one of them can still go to CMC, but Brock Purdy might be a way to go.
Baker: in that game and potentially leveraging a very popular CMC.
Sully Shaheed: um um I'm here for that as well. um I'm going to get the the main play of my rosters and then the gross one because the main play is going to be, and I haven't played them all year, but for some reason, because it is the press price, I'm going to pull the trigger for this one week and it's going to be Lamar.
Sully Shaheed: Now, I and understand that he was trash at the last Bengals game, but if you really get into it, You take away the Zay Flowers OPI, which was not an OPI. Let's be real here. um Isaiah likely is what 70 yard touchdown that he fumbles on the one yard line and another wide open play to Mark Andrews that was tipped at the line.
Sully Shaheed: Lamar was close to breaking the Thanksgiving slate. I mean, it was right there for the taking, but you know, circumstances led to that not being the case, obviously, but in a 100% must win for the Baltimore Ravens. I think that because of the exploitation of the defense's inability to guard the tight end position,
Sully Shaheed: I think we can funnel our stacks of Lamar to maybe one or even both of his tight ends with Mark Andrews being healthy this week. Maybe Isaiah likely shakes off the anti-touchdown thing that he's got going on and can push the Bengals into a victory.
Sully Shaheed: um The runbacks on the Bengals are easy because they're concentrated. You're going to go through either their tight end, Gasicki, the punt play of the slate in Tinsley, or pay up to Jamar Chase, and then I think you'll be just fine. So my number one quarterback is going to be Lamar.
Sully Shaheed: I hate doing it because every time I play him, he sucks. But here I am back advocating for Lamar Jackson. And then just like I mentioned on Wednesday, if you haven't checked out the Wednesday show, make sure to go back in the playlist and check that one out as well. I'm sorry, man. I'm still going with the revenge dagger of Kenny Pickett.
Sully Shaheed: Okay. Just because it's the same thing that chill said. Double stacking Kenny Pickett costs you absolutely nothing. And then form the Avengers. You get one of the best tight ends in the NFL in Brock Bowers, and he gets to throw that guy. And I mean, at zero, probably negative ownership on Brock Bowers. And then throwing a John Beck, who's going to get some increased opportunities because of injuries.
Sully Shaheed: I think you could do worse and then just form the Avengers around him. um I have no interest in Phillip Rivers. I have no interest in any of the pay down options besides Kenny Pickett only because like I said, he's an unknown. He's going against his old team and he has arguably one of the best tight ends in the game and Philadelphia stinks, man. I mean, they, they got some shit going on. I understand this might be a get right spot. And I know Chile you're on Jalen hurts as well because Jalen hurts was third on my list, but
Sully Shaheed: I know they want to have a get right spot. Let's say Philadelphia does get right. If Kenny Pickett's trailing the entire game, garbage points counts the same as regular points. So I will take the lax environment that a Kenny Pickett can provide against Philadelphia.
Sully Shaheed: So oz sir those are my guys.
Chilly: Yeah, plus they – so one thing I will say in Philadelphia's favor, which does help Kenny Pickett, is that last week Sirianni did start calling a little bit more of the plays, um and they are really trying hard to adjust and fix their passing game. um I don't think Philadelphia is going to stop scoring if they are on a run. Yeah.
Chilly: they They need to – like, they're going to put up 40 points with their starters. um I don't see them pulling out their starters because they're going to want to flip this narrative that, you know, it's everything is, you know, okay there.
Chilly: So, um and the passing game wasn't doing too bad. um It's just that they were playing the Chargers, who are a good football team. um It's really different playing against the Raiders.
Chilly: who are you know traveling from the West Coast to the East Coast. So in the sense that Kenny Pickett can get garbage time, it makes a ton of sense. But it also is more of an advocacy here for Jalen Hurts.
Chilly: ah As Sol and I learned, it's probably easier to play Hurts on DraftKings rather than FanDuel. So um I think Hurts is worth a look as well because they are trying really hard to make this passing game relevant.
Sully Shaheed: And because he's an expense, I mean, he's expensive to the point where people will avoid him. So his ownership is gonna be sub 3% easily.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: And he's one of those guys that uses legs that could break a slate because of his legs as well. So yeah, I'm i'm behind the Jalen Hurts call right there. Also, um side note before I let you guys finish up, if you've got any more plays of quarterback, if if you're building Matt Stafford lineups and your one o'clock guys don't hit, you still got Jarrett Goff that you could swap to at sub 3%.
Sully Shaheed: So late swaps are a thing. Don't let your lineups burn just because something happened at one o'clock. Jarrett Goff is easily capable of putting up a 30 burger on the Rams and at no ownership so if you're if you're sitting there with puka and stafford and your one o'clock's didn't hit and you're sitting there with you know your cmc's your pukas and you're just swap to the lions and you'll be okay or you might be okay it'll give you a fighting chance baker did we miss anybody
Baker: Well, to your point of it can give you a fighting chance, you can like Michael Wilson last week. And then I swap off of Michael Wilson and he just buried that team even further. That's also a possibility. Just kind throw it out there.
Baker: um I think the only other person we didn't mention was Jose Brose. I think if like, obviously, if we're interested interested in Lamar, we're interested in Jamar.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Baker: that but That rhymes. So it must be true. Um,
Baker: like We have to talk about Jose Brose. I understand he's more efficient with T. Higgins on the field. That's 1,000% factual. But if that game's going to shoot, like Lamar can do it with his legs.
Baker: and i like Joe Burrow doesn't have the rushing upside, but if we flip over the cards and he has four touchdowns with 350, would it surprise anybody? it's like Lamar can get there and Joe Burrow can get there, but if Lamar, like Derrick Henry can also get there If the Bengals are getting there, it's coming purely off the right eye of arm of Jose Jose.
Baker: So I think putting him in that pool with Lamar Jackson makes a lot of sense.
Sully Shaheed: that that Shawn Michaels lost his smile interview doesn't like deter you away from Joe Burrow
Baker: No, no, not not at all, actually.
Chilly: if that is to scream in Andrew Luck or he's getting traded.
Sully Shaheed: Well, I mean, he's got the option after next year. So, but yeah, I got some Andrew Luck vibes out of that.
Chilly: But if you... believe I mean, there is definitely one team that could use him that makes a ton of sense.
Sully Shaheed: I'm not going lie.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, would you like a drum roll or would you like to reveal that?
Chilly: Oh, yeah.
Baker: Thanks.
Chilly: Yeah. So he had two really good college wide receivers. I think he just goes to play with the other one.
Chilly: Are you telling me that Minnesota doesn't go to them and give them three first round picks and J.J. McCarthy?
Sully Shaheed: I'm here for this. I'm here for this. I'm down. I'm down. But we all know Minnesota's front office is fucking idiots. So ah I don't think that's going to happen. But it makes, it almost makes too much sense, chill. It almost makes too much sense.
Chilly: Yeah, then he I mean, Jamar Chase would be sad. Justin Jefferson would be pretty pumped about it.
Baker: Justin Jefferson, he'd be so fucking public. Like, ain't got to play with nine trash asses no more.
Sully Shaheed: ah Let's roll over to running back. Get some sneakiness in there. Divulge the chalk. Chili, why don't you hit me with some of that ownership at the running back position?
Chilly: Yeah, Chalk, um your I'll just go top five. You're looking at Woody Marks by a large margin, a very large margin. um Christian McCaffrey, Mr. Gibbs, Saquon.
Chilly: Everybody still loves Ken Walker III. God bless him. um So that's who you're looking at in terms of ownership on DraftKings. On FanDuel.com.
Chilly: you are looking at, again, much of the same, McCaffrey, Marks, Gibbs, Walker. And on FanDuel, you get a little bit more James Cook, Derrick Henry, um which does make sense.
Chilly: More of a touchdown-dependent side, so I get it. um But that's what you're looking at in terms of ownership in the running back position.
Sully Shaheed: Baker, are you with me in the, we got to stop this Ken Walker shit.
Baker: absolutely
Sully Shaheed: Like the guy sucks. I mean, like he doesn't, he doesn't know.
Chilly: It's going to happen. It's going to happen.
Baker: no stop
Sully Shaheed: It's not like, no, it's not dude. Like I'm not playing chalky Ken Walker for what bro. For what? I mean, I get, so like, you know, sifting through the chalk, I get the Woody Marks thing. He's affordable. He's going against the Cardinals. Nick Chubb might not play. So he has Daria Gumbawale as his backup.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, he gets the touches. He's a workhorse. ah Houston wants to control the game. So I can understand that he can do that against the Cardinals. CMC is CMC. He has been super, hyper inefficient, but he gets so many touches that he makes up for that. So I get the i get that in the matchup.
Sully Shaheed: The questionable ones are the broken um offensive pro the broken office of prowess of the Eagles with Saquon. And Chili, I mean, like, you you've invited him on the bus multiple times.
Sully Shaheed: I don't trust Derrick Henry, even against the Bengals. That scares the living shit out of me. i get it.
Chilly: Well,
Sully Shaheed: in Himber and all this other shit. Man, them snow tires are still at the shop waiting to be put on.
Baker: Ha ha ha ha ha.
Sully Shaheed: So I don't know, man. but But yeah, thank you, Baker, for being a lockstep with the Ken Walker shit. It's got to stop. It's got to stop.
Chilly: one thing ah One thing I forgot to mention in the quarterback position, um just really quick, um Sam Darnold is playing the Colts, and the Colts are missing their two top corners.
Chilly: They're missing Ward and Sauce Gardner. Just going to throw that out there.
Sully Shaheed: I'm not paying 10K for JSN on FanDuel. It's not going to happen.
Chilly: I understand it, but just to let just let the public know you know that the c Colts are literally missing their secondaries.
Sully Shaheed: So, uh, chill. I'll start with you. Who, who at the top are we, jamming into our lineups?
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, it goes with Banker's Buffalo tank. Nobody's playing James Cook. um I think people are still on the narrative that the Patriots' run defense um is good, and it hasn't. Like I said, it's fallen into the 20s.
Chilly: ah Buffalo wants to establish the run. Yeah. So, I mean, at this point, nobody's playing James Cook. He's going to go in probably less than 7%, 5%, somewhere in that range. um So, again, i would be looking at James Cook. Obviously, you do have the pitfalls of um him fumbling, Josh Allen, heaven forbid, some random dude off the bench for the Bills gets a rushing touchdown because that's a thing.
Chilly: Um, but James Cook would be the, would be the interesting click there.
Sully Shaheed: I'm here for that. ah Yeah, that's a good top end play. um I'm behind that. um Mid-range and, um you know, I'll slide it to Baker for his top and mid-range guys. But the ownership that I'm, and again, it always happens with me when I play him, he sucks.
Sully Shaheed: But I think there should be significantly more ownership on Travis Etienne Jr. I mean, he gets the Jets against their third string quarterback. When are the freaking Jets going to be on the field?
Sully Shaheed: Like, and we saw last week when Bajel Tootin fumbled, he got shadow-realmed. He didn't see the damn field. So we're going to get Travis Etienne and more ownership on Trevor Lawrence as well. I think mid-range, Travis Etienne should be like the one guy that you should have some confidence in, especially after last week scoring two touchdowns. We've seen blow up games from him. If there's no by shell tootin, uh, stealing some touches inside the red zone. The only thing that I worry about with Travis ETN is Trevor Lawrence has been rushing more. So, you know, I've seen some design quarterback draws to get him in the end zone and that's going to tilt my face off.
Sully Shaheed: But I think Travis ETN is probably like mid range guy. Like, just sitting there. So, I mean, that's, that's my take on the mid range, upper range guys. I mean, CMC has got the safest floor in the game. I think if you're looking for a foreplay combined with ceiling access, CMC is, you know, a great pay up option. And um yeah, like I said, I just don't trust, I don't trust Saquon and I don't trust our King. I just, I'm very weary of the matchups are great, but Fuck, they've been so dusty.
Sully Shaheed: But like I mentioned in the thread, if Lane Johnson plays, I think you can trust Saquon a little more. If Lane Johnson still remains out, I'm not going to do it. So I know offensive lineman news, right? um yeah
Chilly: Hey, it matters.
Sully Shaheed: It matters. It matters. It matters. um Baker, who you got at the top? Are we sliding in the mid-range? And do you have some cheap punts that you would like to discuss?
Baker: A top end will first of all speak on kind of Jameer Gibbs. I think he's I think his ownership is projecting high only because of the game environment, which makes sense.
Sully Shaheed: Thank you.
Baker: Obviously, this Rams run defense has been phenomenal this year, but obviously Jameer Gibbs can you know we had an 11 catch game what two weeks ago. So him getting there via the air. I think he his ownership is kind of depressed because of the matchup, but it's also high because of the environment, but I think it should probably be a little bit higher.
Baker: I'm not sure if I'll be able to get to him because obviously he is a priority play if you're building around him, but I think he deserves a little bit more attention just because of the electric nature in which he is. it's It's so sad to because I normally start lineups. Who's playing Cincinnati? Running back, put in lineup. And I kind of feel the same way you do, Sully, about Derrick Henry because I haven't been doing that on my practice builds, which scares the living shit out of me.
Baker: um But yeah, like the Ravens offense looking broken. It came to life a little bit last week for via Lamar, but it's it's still not Derrick Henry. Would it surprise any of us if Derrick Henry has two or three touchdowns tomorrow? No, we'll just be sitting here tilting our face faces off.
Baker: And 100% agree on Travis Etienne. Literally 100% of the time I play Travis Etienne, he sucks. Was it two weeks ago where he was uber mega chalk and he did negative why production? Like it was absolutely freaking absurd. and then last week he scores two touchdowns um but i feel like in a lot of lineups where you're jamming in the pukas and the uh jamar chases you like you're not going to be able to afford the cmc so hence the reason woody marks is gaining so much ownership because he is uh so low price and it's a great matchup i said it i said it on wednesday and i still kind of feel this way i feel that chuba chuba hubbard's price is just criminal i New Orleans isn't a glaring matchup. You know, they're kind of mid-pack in against the pass and the run. And we know Carolina wants to run the ball.
Baker: And we saw before their bye week, once again, like Chuba Hubbard was just as involved as Rico, if not more. And when it comes to like, they kind of ride the hot hand a little bit. If Chuba starts breaking off runs at the beginning of the game, it'll be a Chuba game.
Baker: So at 4,600, I'm still willing to kind of lean into that variance of Chuba Hubbard just for that simple fact. Outside of that, I think that R.J. Harvey, who was you know stupidly popular last week in the mid-price, the role's still there. The matchup's a little bit tougher, but the role's still there. And Denver's kind of just leaning on just run the ball, run the ball, run the ball. Let's get the hell out of here, too. They're not, depending on Bo Nix, nearly as much the past month of the season. So I think R.J. Harvey is definitely a very interesting play at his price tag coming off of a two-touchdown game.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, opportunities, opportunities, opportunities. RJ Harvey ain't really splitting that much with his backfield mates. So I'm here for that. Chill, quick question. um Do you think if we do not get Josh Jacobs tomorrow and Emmanuel Wilson becomes available, do you think he takes that ownership away from Woody Marks or would it be like, I don't know, Tyrone Tracy Jr. or um Ken Walker III? Like, where does that ownership go? Because even though,
Sully Shaheed: the matchup sucks, honestly. I mean, it's not a great matchup for a main Wilson, but he's a cheapie that allows you to fit stuff in. Does the ownership get pulled from, uh, some of those guys?
Chilly: No, people are going to see the Denver Broncos defense. They're going to see the red number next to him, and they're not going to play him.
Sully Shaheed: I'm here for that. All right.
Chilly: I think everybody everybody's going to stick with Marks.
Sully Shaheed: Uh,
Chilly: I do believe from what I read, Lane Johnson isn't playing, but his backup, Fred Johnson, is playing. Okay. it
Sully Shaheed: Wrong Johnson.
Baker: Thank you.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: um And then one other matchup, and I don't know if anybody mentioned him, but Gentie's ownership is kind of is really low as well.
Chilly: um And Jalen Carter got ruled out for this game, which does make a really big difference.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: um So I don't mind Gentie at all.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Chilly: um He's probably – he's almost a direct pivot from Woody Marks at that point, a little bit more expensive. At least on Fandle, I think he's a little bit more expensive. I actually don't the price, but he's pretty close. So, um, it if you want, if you want to go directly from the Woody Marks chalk, it would probably be Gentie.
Sully Shaheed: Ashton Genshi is 6,300. Woody Marks is
Chilly: Yeah. So, um, I just would kind of be remiss. I would just mention Gentie. Um, one more, we we'll get the hometown narrative in here. um nobody's playing Judkins tomorrow. Um,
Chilly: And ah Samson, Samson, right, got ruled out. Jerome Ford got put on the IR. So Judkins does figure to get a little bit more work in the passing game as well.
Chilly: um The Bears don't really have a great defense. They just get a lot of turnovers. But um we know
Sully Shaheed: Opportunistic is the word, opportunistic.
Chilly: that would be – that's a big word. um But –
Sully Shaheed: Ever since I got the prescription for my glasses, I've become astute.
Chilly: But,
Sully Shaheed: So, you know I'm just throwing them out there now. All of a sudden, my IQ went up like 23 points because of these. so
Chilly: yeah yeah um but yeah, I do like Jenkins here. Again, the Bears' defense isn't particularly well. We know the Browns and Shador, their second favorite play call is Screens.
Chilly: um So like I get to see, I mean, Judkins gets a screen. um Josh Jacobs did have a pretty good game against these guys last week. um So, again, I understand the Bears are at home. It doesn't look great, but i do like Judkins this week as a low-on play.
Sully Shaheed: Well, I'm going to play devil's advocate, chili, and go to the opposite side and say you can play one of these Bears guys at less than 3% ownership. we saw
Chilly: It would be, it would be Mononga guy.
Sully Shaheed: We saw what? we Yeah, I would take my one guy over anybody, but over Swift. But um we saw we saw last week that Tennessee absolutely went nuclear on these guys. And to the Judkins' point,
Sully Shaheed: All five of their starting offensive linemen are out. I mean, they have no one on their offensive line. The Browns are so hurt right now that literally their starting unit from the beginning the season, they're all gone.
Sully Shaheed: So they just lost their starting center. So it's like now Shador's got to operate under someone else. So it's just like, I don't think they couldn't run the ball. period, to begin with.
Sully Shaheed: So you're telling me with a brand new offensive line, they're going to be able to run against the Bears on the road in negative 15 degree freaking wind chill? No. I would rather take the Bears side on, we know what the Bears want to do.
Sully Shaheed: They want to run the living piss out of the ball. And if the Browns show anything that they showed last week and their inability to stop Tony Pollard, then I'm just going to go to the opposite side. I'd rather take the home guys against the Browns because we all know The Tennessee Titans did exactly what they were supposed to do. They ran at Miles Garrett.
Sully Shaheed: Because we know he's coming for that sack record, but it's hard to get a sack when you're not attempting any passes. He's going to be literally what um Mitch Trubisky was when all he did was play all they did was play defense and he was attempting 12 passes a game.
Sully Shaheed: Whatever it unders you see on Caleb Williams passing yards tomorrow, take it.
Sully Shaheed: Kyle Mamongai and DeAndre Swift will have combined 40 attempts. Book it.
Chilly: what is so mean
Sully Shaheed: And if you're giving me those type of opportunities, I'll take it
Chilly: So I won't disregard. i won't disagree with anything you said. Makes sense. I guess the only devil guy at the devil advocate I will play here is that if you are Chicago going into the playoffs, you need Caleb Williams to be playing well because how he's playing right now is not going to win in the NFC.
Chilly: It might win in the AFC, but it's not going to win in the NFC for sure. Yeah. this would be the spot where you would want to try to pass, wouldn't it?
Chilly: to to try to get To try to get that
Sully Shaheed: No, i'll always i only say that yeah because they're the seven seed right now. Like, they're still in must-win territory. Even, like, the NFC is that stacked.
Chilly: But, like, at the end of the day, like, you should be able to beat the Browns no matter what you're doing.
Sully Shaheed: So,
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, the Titans agree.
Chilly: he um But, yeah, I mean, again, it makes total sense. um I'm not going to disregard anything with it.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I'm going find me some props on Caleb Williams tomorrow. this guy's He's probably only like at 160, 160 probably, but i'd still I'd still take the under. um Let's slide over to wide receiver chill, man.
Sully Shaheed: Hit him with it.
Chilly: Yeah, so on DraftKings here, wide receiver-wise, um We are looking at Puka Nakua. We are looking at ah Jamar Chase, Amon Ross St. Brown, Jackson Smith, Njigba.
Chilly: Everybody got hit to Mitch Tinsley is up there in ownership on DraftKings. um And then you're looking at Nico Collins, Terry McLaurin, Jameson Williams.
Sully Shaheed: Makes sense.
Chilly: Switch over to the old fan duel.
Chilly: We are looking at,
Chilly: doesn't really change by too much. Others do small field. For FanDuel, you are looking at Wandale Robinson, Jacoby Myers, Jamar Chase, Jamison Williams, Amar Ross St. Brown, Jawan Jennings.
Chilly: ah More of the large field stuff, kind of the same there. You kind of get Puka and Devontae Adams kind of sprinkled in there. But that's what you're looking at in terms of ownership. So a little bit different from site to site there.
Sully Shaheed: Baker, can we stop with the Wondell Robinson shit?
Baker: Yes.
Baker: I can't like I can't definitively back that one like a back end walker.
Sully Shaheed: I can, here you go. So Wondell Robinson's two good games, two usable games were with quarterbacks not named Jackson Dart. His two best games, Russell Wilson and j and ah and our our boy, our our poster child of the show, a famous Jameis.
Sully Shaheed: When Darius Slayton is on the field, he only has one more target than the man. So I can't justify him being chalk at a more expensive price than Darius Slayton when they're literally the same dude.
Sully Shaheed: And again, Jackson Dart is starting. So I'm not going to see. He has not had one positive game with Jackson Dart.
Baker: Thank
Sully Shaheed: So why is he chalk? Like, I think we could find some better, cheaper pieces to fill in lineups than Wondell freaking Robinson. Like, i'm I'm sorry. That was my rant. I'm over it.
Sully Shaheed: Baker. i
Chilly: I will... So, I mean, I got some numbers here for you. When Jackson Dart is on the field, his target distribution to Wandale Robinson is 62. Theo Johnson is 48. Darius Slayton is 29.
Chilly: Bellinger is 20. And then the running backs are 10 and 9. So he does throw the ball to Wandale Robinson, or at least targets
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, but you got to remember that half those starts that Jackson Dart was in, Darius Slayton was out. Like, he literally didn't play in half those games.
Chilly: him. But I mean...
Sully Shaheed: I'm talking when they're on the field together.
Chilly: I mean, i he's still he he still throws him the ball.
Sully Shaheed: Again, look at his box scores with Jackson Dart.
Chilly: Okay, so, hey, I'm still going to play him.
Sully Shaheed: He's put up zero usable games. Zero.
Sully Shaheed: I mean, hey, I support anything that Dele does. I'm just not going to play Wondell Robinson.
Chilly: good Him or Theo, but that's neither here nor there.
Sully Shaheed: I'm with that. Baker, if you're starting at the top, because I know you want to play one of these high priced guys, which one is it? And which one are you willing to fade?
Baker: Would you believe me if I said I'm not willing to fade either?
Sully Shaheed: I would, I would believe you. You'll find ways to jam it in.
Baker: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Okay. All right. Well, who are we jamming?
Baker: Both of like that that's that's That's a lot of my strategy this week is playing Puka and Jamar Chase together and finding ways to get different around that. I understand they're the two. ah like They're projecting in the 20s and 30s. When we turn the cards over, they're going to be in the thirty s and 40s.
Baker: um And I'm fine eating that because I definitely see the the variance of them both putting up 40 points game being very high or the variance being very low, sorry, um as far as them both putting up 40. And if they both put up 40 together, there's ways to construct lineups in which you need those two 40-point games because it's going to take 230, 240, maybe 250 to shift lineups this week, I think, with so many games on the slate and so many good plays.
Baker: good place high price plays that can absolutely put you to bed. So baiting both of them is not an option. One of them is on every single team. And it's going to be a priority to try to get different other places and build with both of them together for me this week.
Sully Shaheed: I muted myself. So that means you're leaving out JSN and and the God of the sun.
Baker: Yes, yes, JSN is probably going be up eight.
Baker: We're going to find ways to get Amon Ra in here. I'm not going to fade Amon Ra. I'm probably going to end up fading Jackson Smith and Jay, but I think he's the one that even left, even,
Chilly: Again, I will just say, Indianapolis' is secondary is not there. And he's not fighting.
Sully Shaheed: Non-existent.
Chilly: And he, and I mean, he is not fighting anybody for targets. I think on FanDuel, you want to fade him at ten k That's fine. On DraftKings, you want to fade him?
Chilly: thing Good luck.
Baker: So, I mean, I'll use last week as a perfect example. Jackson Smith had a two touchdown game. He had almost 100 yards and Puka absolutely shattered that. The afternoon window started and you didn't need JSN.
Baker: You know, you're you're getting, he's, you're paying a hundred more dollars for Puka. I think Puka has a higher ceiling. You're paying $500 cheaper for Jamar Chase. I think Jamar Chase has a higher ceiling. With those two thought processes in my brain, at least, I think that even if JSN has 102,
Chilly: I personally disagree on the higher ceiling narrative. Again, JSN is literally trying to shatter every receiving record this year. So I totally disagree on the, he has the higher ceiling.
Chilly: I totally disagree.
Sully Shaheed: Well, only and I only disagree with your disagreeing because baker to Baker's point, he's got the two game environments that would warrant the ceiling access. Whereas the Seattle Seahawks could be up by 14 and say, right, we're good, right?
Sully Shaheed: let's just Let's just go.
Chilly: the seahak But the Seahawks don't do that. They get up by 30 or 40 and do that. So I totally disagree.
Sully Shaheed: They get it by 30 or 40 because they they have the one of the best kickers in the damn game.
Chilly: That's why.
Chilly: Hey.
Sully Shaheed: ah Look, we're in the red zone again, field goal. Look, we're the red zone again, field goal.
Baker: Well, I mean, obviously this is an outlier game, but you think back to when the original bro was out there, Max Brouserman, and like nobody on the offense did anything.
Baker: Like the offense was completely shut down. i understand the Vikings have a good defense as well, so that's part of it. But like all their points came from other things. And, you know, I don't play much. I haven't played much Jackson Smith and Jigba this year.
Baker: Overall, that was one of the weeks in which I had a decent amount of Jackson Smith.
Chilly: but And Jamar Chase literally did nothing in that shootout against the Bills.
Baker: I understand, I completely understand.
Chilly: I mean, so you can counterpoint.
Baker: and if
Chilly: We can keep counterpointing each other all day. No matter what. No matter.
Sully Shaheed: Counterpoint, there's no T.
Chilly: it good
Sully Shaheed: Higgins.
Chilly: He was.
Sully Shaheed: T.
Chilly: he
Sully Shaheed: Higgins was in that Bills game. I'm just saying.
Chilly: He did get injured and Jamar Chase still didn't do shit.
Sully Shaheed: He came back in, made a nice one-handed grab for another touchdown.
Chilly: And then RIP.
Sully Shaheed: He was still dizzy as shit.
Chilly: Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Like, he barely, is this a football? Like, get it.
Chilly: I mean, at the end of the day, you can't play all the good plays, so it's neither here or there.
Sully Shaheed: Correct.
Chilly: So, like, I think on'm on FanDuel, I don't even think it's a question. You just fade JSN at 10K.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah, I'm here.
Chilly: I think and on DraftKings, it's awfully terrifying.
Sully Shaheed: Right. Well, I mean, and you know ah we we'll get to it because there's another high-end receiver that's probably not going to get any ownership because of the other guys that we mentioned. um No one's going to play Rasheed Rice.
Chilly: Can he catch?
Sully Shaheed: This week, potentially?
Baker: He read the syllabus this week. He he he he knows what he spoke to them.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah.
Chilly: i don't
Sully Shaheed: Get his hands together. Get his hands together.
Chilly: I don't know the stat for sure, but there there's an insane stat that I heard that when you play at Kansas City at night, like that boosts up like the drops rate by a lot.
Chilly: Yeah, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: just we just got we just got stats for everything. like is Everything has to do.
Chilly: Yeah. So, um but also, too, like, that was the biggest game Rasheed Rice has ever played in.
Sully Shaheed: Mm-hmm.
Chilly: So I think there was nerves there for sure. But, yeah, there was an insane stat about playing at Kansas City at night and with drops.
Sully Shaheed: um well, let's talk about some other under-owned slate-breaking potential receivers in that in Philadelphia. Sub-5% owned Slim Reaper, sub-5% owned A.J. Brown.
Sully Shaheed: A.J. Brown is way more palatable on DraftKings, so his ownership might be a little higher, but definitely not on FanDuel. um So is there a way we can get to? Because we like Jalen Hurts.
Sully Shaheed: because the ownership you want to make your lineup completely unique sub percent own slim sub sub five percent own slim sub five percent on aj brown sub five percent own jalen hurts and you could just chalk it up if you'd like so again it's the raiders bro like is this the get right spot we want to find a way to jam in one of these guys if not both baker eagles question mark
Chilly: Oui!
Baker: I mean, I think the only eagle I'm probably going to get to this week is Saquon. Just because I've been the thought process is like the Eagles get right. They hang something stupid. And I think they hang something stupid via just establishing it ah very similar to the way they did versus the Giants.
Baker: I don't think this is a game in which they're going to actually need Jalen Hurts to do anything because the Raiders don't have much pushback in them. So getting
Chilly: I don't think it's a matter of need. i think it's just a matter of want. they this I think the Eagles want to defeat this narrative that they're not in a Super Bowl hangover like they were but the last time they won the Super Bowl, where they were the best team and then got absolutely fucking annihilated by Tampa Bay in the playoff game.
Chilly: they like The Eagles are just trying to break narratives in this game. That's what they're going to try to do. But you're right.
Baker: That's fair.
Chilly: But you're right. Because, like, especially on FanDuel, it's a little sketchy. DraftKings, just...
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, DraftKings, you can do it. DraftKings, you can do it.
Baker: You could definitely go to DraftKings.
Sully Shaheed: um Baker, you had a you had a punt play that's not Mitchell Tinsley.
Baker: Yeah.
Baker: It's not Mitchell Tenson.
Sully Shaheed: Spice it up for him. Spice it up for him.
Baker: Well, before I spice it up, look ki them sand sand let me let me warm up
Baker: Obviously, once again, we're talking about the game. I think Jamison Williams' ownership is criminally low for wanting to get into that game. I mean, I'm seeing a projected 10% ownership. That's probably closer to 15%, 20% in actual when we put over cards.
Sully Shaheed: It's crazy, it's crazy to me.
Baker: I still think that's too low. You know, since the injury to Sam Laporta, this guy has, you know, been so involved in the in their passing game to the point where I think that, like, that ownership should probably be higher than Devontae Adams, who's touched down or nothing.
Baker: And the fact that he's coming in from what I'm seeing right now, lower than that, i think Jameson Williams is one of the best plays on the slate dollar for dollar.
Sully Shaheed: Jameson Williams is averaging 18 points a game. With a zero in there over the past six weeks. So, yes, I'm i'm with you. I'm on Ross St. Brown. It's like 19.2.
Sully Shaheed: Jameson Williams, at significantly less ownership and price, is averaging what this man is doing. And he had a zero in there. so we want to talk about accessing stealing.
Chilly: yeah
Sully Shaheed: Give me, yeah, Jameson Williams, I'm thousand percent with you.
Chilly: but thanks the thanksgiving The Thanksgiving Day game does does inflate that a little bit with Amon Rod not being there. But last...
Sully Shaheed: This is true, however, the other four games, includ net zero he was there.
Chilly: Well, it was the zero. Amon Rod was gone. He did play with the Cowboys. And we...
Sully Shaheed: yeah
Chilly: it So ah we do we do miss our Cowboys.
Baker: We do.
Chilly: really Hey, exactly would you would you have guys have – we'll get back to wide receivers here in a second in Baker's Take, but would you have guys have played nine?
Baker: We do. absolutely. Yes.
Sully Shaheed: This would have been a whole Viking show if the Cowboys were on the damn slate.
Baker: oh absolutely
Sully Shaheed: Yes.
Chilly: Man, we did a complete 180 on this show. Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: Cowboys.
Baker: You had me at Cowboys.
Chilly: question And then he would have thrown like four touchdowns to Oliver and we all just been pissed off and be like, why don't play number nine? I'm a fucking idiot.
Sully Shaheed: And Jalen Naylor back in the end zone again.
Chilly: specific but go Go on, Baker.
Sully Shaheed: You're so right, you're so right, you're so right.
Baker: Absolutely.
Sully Shaheed: God dang it.
Chilly: I'm sorry. Yeah.
Baker: it's It's okay. It's okay. um ah Two other receivers that I really like. I mentioned on Wednesday, or three other receivers. Michael Wilson, I mentioned, has a great play. understand the matchup's difficult.
Baker: Mentioned him on Wednesday. He's a great play with the chalky when he marks as he still doesn't have as much ownership because of his inflated price and the matchup. Still love him. And two other receivers that I love before I get to this pump play, which is absolutely delicious.
Baker: It's
Sully Shaheed: yeah Absolutely delicious.
Baker: absolutely delicious. ah
Sully Shaheed: ah
Baker: I hate you.
Sully Shaheed: I love it.
Baker: They're actually they're actually in the same game. um Chris Alave and Cedro McMillan. I mean, both defenses are just kind of middling. Obviously, we have no elements. Games in the Superdome tend to be or not Superdome. Mercedes-Benz dome tend to be a little bit more high scoring, but both defenses can be had. So I like T-Mac, even though he doesn't like being called T-Mac. I'm still call him T-Mac. And I like Chris Alave for those reasons, because just think that game can have a little bit of points in it, not something that I'm really targeting that game. But I like those two players. And now for the deliciousness, the returning 114 pounds dripping wet.
Baker: Just got the that notification on my phone five minutes ago that he's officially active activated off the IR. Tutu Atwell for the Los Angeles Rams. I think that obviously Devontae Adams, he is a he's a touchdown machine.
Baker: He has 19 fucking end zone targets versus man coverage alone, which which is what the Detroit Lions play a lot of. Pukunikua, his splits versus man coverage, absolutely absurd. I think when the ball's not going to one of those two, I think there's a very good possibility that Sean McVay, who...
Baker: schemes his games individual for teams. And it's not like, you'll go 13 personnel, he'll go 11 personnel, he'll go 12 personnel, depending on what the matchup kind of dictates. Understanding that this team's going to play a lot of man versus him. He's going to be like, all right, you want to do this?
Baker: let me get Let me get these three wide receivers out here and let you try to cover these guys one-on-one all day. And I think there'll be certain shot plays that they that we'll see to two, two, two, that we will see two, two, two And um I mean, if if you're just praying for a long touchdown, I think he's just as good a bet as anybody, especially Mitchell Tinsley, to catch that long bomb. And and once again, you're just targeting of the game that you're really looking forward to.
Chilly: my recommend I was going to say, my recommendation is if don't play Tutu Atwell on DFS, but just go bet his touchdown prop then.
Sully Shaheed: Baker.
Baker: That's a spoiler, Chiu. That's what we call a spoiler for later in the show, sir.
Chilly: Hmm.
Sully Shaheed: Don't you dare put freaking Tutu Atwell in our parlay.
Chilly: Hmm. yeah
Baker: Hold on.
Sully Shaheed: We actually want to hit another one.
Baker: Hold on. Don't you come at me because you have made some of the dumbest picks in this fucking parlay since we started doing this. And the last time you X-Nate one of my picks was a Jameis Winston fucking anytime touchdown, which fucking hit.
Chilly: He did. He did
Baker: I want to hear your shit right now.
Chilly: hit.
Sully Shaheed: First of all, first of all, I left the dumb shit in the past, okay? And I gave you two good ones this week, and we hit it, all right?
Chilly: he did he did hit
Sully Shaheed: So now that it's now that it's Saturday, and I've recollected my thoughts, and I'm going to give you smart plays, picks for the parlay this week, okay?
Baker: Okay. Okay. Okay.
Sully Shaheed: But what I was going to say is I will take your 2-2 Atwell versus my Jack Beck.
Baker: Oh, give it to me all day. Let's go print money.
Chilly: is jack back is jack back or is it john back is it jack okay i know it was a jay
Sully Shaheed: I'm here for this.
Sully Shaheed: Jack. Yeah, it's one and a Jack Beck. ah Anybody else? Anybody else that we missed?
Chilly: yeah um
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I went there. Yeah, I went there, Baker. Yeah, I went there. Yeah, went there.
Sully Shaheed: One and a.
Chilly: Yeah, um I would be kind of failed or missed. The Titans guys, Alec, DK. um I do like the Titans guys. um One other guy, um again, boots on the ground here. Denzel Ward is not playing tomorrow.
Chilly: um And Tyson Campbell allows like the second highest receiving yards to wide receivers. um Nobody is touching Roma Dunze tomorrow. um But again,
Chilly: But I'm just saying um with with a worn out tomorrow, um could be a Roma Dunze type of game.
Sully Shaheed: Let us pray, let us pray. um And before we slide over to tight ends real quick, I will say again for your late swaptions, if you build with Puka and your one o'clock stone hit, swap to Devontae Adams, at least save some ownership, help your cause. And again, like Baker mentioned, James Williams, super under owned um compared to relative to the environment he is under owned.
Sully Shaheed: So that's another guy you could probably swap to. And if you're really desperate, Tutu Atwell, there you go. ah
Chilly: What about Stephon Diggs in the revenge game again?
Sully Shaheed: He already extracted his revenge in the first matchup. We are not going to any New England pass catchers this week. I can't do it.
Chilly: I'm not. I'm not, but just toss it out there.
Sully Shaheed: I can't do it. Tight ends bake or sorry, chill hit them with it.
Chilly: Yeah, tight ends. Nothing too crazy here. Harold Fennin Jr., ah Mark Andrews. Theo, Isaiah, Likely, ah Kittle, Gesicki, Colby Parkinson, AJ Barner.
Chilly: That's on DraftKings. On FanDuel, I'm sure we'll get much of the same. Yeah, Kittle, Andrews, Fannin. um ah Mostly it's just George Kittle on FanDuel. So...
Chilly: So once you kind of get past Kittle, it's flat. um I mean, Andrews, i probably put Andrews up there. He's 12%. Kittle's at like 20%.
Chilly: So basically if you don't play George Kittle on FanDuel, he's cheap. He's only 6,300. And we just saw here.
Sully Shaheed: He's very cheap.
Chilly: and we just saw the brown And we just saw the Browns tight ends nuke the Titans.
Sully Shaheed: it's very cheap
Chilly: So it makes sense. um And again, the the Titans are a pass funnel or turning into the league's pass funnel. Um, Yeah, FanDuel. Then you get like Hunter Henry, Theo, Dalton Schultz, Doctor Strange, Gesicki.
Chilly: ah Nobody's playing Isaiah Likely on FanDuel. So, my...
Sully Shaheed: And that's crazy to me. Holy shit. What are we doing in these DFS streets where realized there's a tight end that is going against the freaking Bengals.
Baker: uh
Sully Shaheed: He's a tight end.
Chilly: I mean...
Sully Shaheed: Jackson Hawes or Spencer or whatever hell his name is scoring against the freaking Bengals. And we're not going to play Isaiah Likely. That's crazy.
Chilly: It's because they're all playing cause they're playing Andrews.
Chilly: yeah That's crazy.
Sully Shaheed: It's crazy to me. It's crazy. I'm playing Isaiah likely God dang it. I don't care if it's ineptitude to get in the damn end zone or at least fumble the bag when he gets there. I'm playing Isaiah likely God dang it. That's crazy dog.
Sully Shaheed: That's crazy. But I mean, and, and chill, you've alluded to it multiple times, but sometimes, You just play the better players even in bad matchups. So we're talking about unowned Brock Bowers and unowned Trey McBride.
Sully Shaheed: why what What slate in existence are you going to get these two sub 3%?
Sully Shaheed: This is crazy to me.
Chilly: yeah i mean trey mcbride is still really expensive so i get that brock bowers
Sully Shaheed: But he's so good at the game of football, Joe.
Chilly: yeah you just yeah you just really need houston to fucking put him down and then trey mcbride will come alive with bursette um
Sully Shaheed: Like really good.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah. That's fair.
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, Bowers is probably the intriguing one. um You know, the last time he was unowned, he dropped like 40. So, I mean, I know that was like way back in week five or six or whatever it was. But, yeah, it's kind of it's kind of crazy. Philadelphia doesn't have the greatest defense, so.
Sully Shaheed: I'm just saying, man, if you're Kitty Pickett, I'm throwing a one dude. And it's not Jack Beck, even though i like Jack Beck this week. But come on, man. We we got to find room to at least one. If you build 10 rosters, one of them should have Brock Bowers in it or Trey McBride or whatever. like Because we've seen that the high-priced elite tight ends can put a slate to bed.
Sully Shaheed: Period. We've seen Trey McBride do it. We've seen Brock Bowers do it. And I mean, I get it. Even if Brock Bowers like goes off or whatever, like we could look up on our non-Brock Bowers rosters and go, well, no one played him. So it's really not affecting you. But if you're the guy that played him, that puts you significantly ahead of everyone else in the damn field.
Sully Shaheed: So I'm definitely going to take a shot on Brock Bowers tomorrow. without question. And even if you want to, like, spice it up, find your early only roster and be like, all right, I'm to play Brock Bowers in this because he's still going to be unowned in early only, too.
Sully Shaheed: So...
Chilly: Oh, yeah. He'll be unknown by a lot. um I'll just give you one take here. know we we've we've done nothing but trash Phillip Rivers. um But if we do know one thing about Phillip Rivers, he's going to throw to the tight end.
Chilly: And This might be one of the best tight ends he's played with, of course, outside Antonio Gates. We don't foresee Phillip Rivers chucking this ball 20, 30 yards down the field. um Seattle is not the greatest against tight ends. They actually do allow, like, the fifth most points to tight ends. Yeah.
Chilly: Again, man, it's a gross click, but again, good players and bad matchups. You could just play Warren here against the Seahawks here.
Chilly: Makes a ton of sense.
Sully Shaheed: Can he still throw it 20 yards
Chilly: they They did release video of him throwing the ball like 30 for, you know, yeah that that motion, but. So, um I mean, I guess that would be that would really be the only take that I have um
Sully Shaheed: I put that shit, son.
Chilly: yeah at this point, truthfully.
Sully Shaheed: Baker, can we get weird at tight end?
Baker: Can we get weird at tight end? I got weird. Like, come on. This is me we're talking about here. ah if like you Here's a mid-price tight end for you. Now, this is an absolute punt play, all the way punt play.
Baker: Obviously, we saw the gruesome injury to Zach Ertz last week, ah potentially potentially career ending.
Sully Shaheed: Ah, yeah.
Baker: um It's very uncertain in that tight end room, in my opinion. I think John Bates is listed as the starter, but we have their second-year tight end. I do't believe this is his second year, Ben Sinat. former second-round pick, so who could be an expanded role, bare minimum, why the hell not?
Baker: like That's literally a why-the-hell-not play. I'm not saying it's a great play. I'm just saying why the fuck not? It gives you the opportunity to jam in whatever the hell else you want on top of playing of one or two other. You play him in Tutu Etwell, do whatever you want.
Sully Shaheed: No interest in Jeremy Rooker, Baker?
Baker: I'm not all about the Rucker, okay? I'm not about the Rucker. But I do think Trey McBride is actually the the pivot off to off of Puka. I think that is probably like you got Puka in your flex, you swap to Trey McBride and pray Puka fails.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I mean, it is it is nice that you know we got some we got some flexibility.
Chilly: Well, Trey McBride plays in the early window, i do believe.
Sully Shaheed: Okay, aren't they in Houston?
Chilly: They're in Houston.
Baker: Oh, crap. you That is a one o'clock game.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah they they do play at one.
Baker: My bad.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah.
Chilly: i was like, hold I was thinking, I'm like, shit, am I wrong?
Baker: My bad.
Chilly: Hold on. Hold up.
Sully Shaheed: As they hold up, hold up.
Chilly: I'm like, I'm the one who, I get the game times wrong here on this show, damn it.
Baker: I thought I thought
Baker: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to take your thing.
Chilly: You steal my bit?
Baker: I'm sorry.
Chilly: Yeah.
Baker: I didn't say dive on in.
Sully Shaheed: How dare you steal the bit?
Chilly: she
Baker: i didn't say dive on in. We're good. Sheesh. But my tight end pool is pretty small. Mark Andrews, Isaiah likely more than likely playing together with with with.
Sully Shaheed: lama
Baker: With Lamar. Thank you. Uh, Harold Fannin, like I'm just out of that Chicago Cleveland game because of the weather.
Chilly: I love you.
Baker: Otherwise I think Harold Fannin would be a great play. Um, everything else is just quarterback, uh, dependent. I'll play Dalton Kincaid with my Josh Allen lineups just because he's the only pass catcher I think we can rely on there.
Baker: Um, I,
Sully Shaheed: Parkinson in your Stafford lineups question mark.
Baker: I'm playing two, two. So no, I'm not triple stacking, uh, Matt Stafford, Mass Stafford, even though it's possible it's just not going probably going to do it.
Sully Shaheed: It's a 52 and a half point total, man.
Baker: Matt
Sully Shaheed: I mean, why not the triple?
Baker: Stafford, not i've never been a fan of triples doubles is I feel comfortable in doubles I don't I don't I don't really feel comfortable in triples.
Sully Shaheed: Is where you stop.
Chilly: If you're playing large field, I think triples is fine.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, yeah. it Depends on the field size for sure.
Chilly: One other guy I'll just mention, um you know, Dr. Strange. Trevor Lawrence has been pretty convinced where the ball is going. um If you do figure that the Jags will have a lot of possessions in this game, um I don't think it's the worst thing you could do. Obviously, it's not the greatest thing, but i don't know. Warren and Strange at this point would be who I'll toss in there.
Baker: Yes, he's selling to everybody but Brian Thomas, Jr.
Sully Shaheed: ah Poor Brian Thomas.
Sully Shaheed: a Poor guy. ah Let's slide over defense and slap that. Hit this parlay and ah get Baker off to work. So ah chill. Hit him with the defense ownership, baby.
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, at this point, ah it's it's not it's kind of flat. You're looking at the Texans, Seahawks, Bears, Jags, Eagles, Raiders, ah your top six there on DraftKings. On FanDuel.com, you are looking at ah Houston, Carolina, the Giants um are your top three there. Yeah.
Chilly: And then you New Orleans, question mark, is like your fourth. And then it's pretty much flat from there. But um that's what you're looking at defensive-wise.
Sully Shaheed: The Jaguars are playing a creative player. Find the money to get to Jacksonville. That is all.
Chilly: Yeah, I mean, for real. Yeah.
Sully Shaheed: but I mean, I get Seattle against Phillip Rivers. Understandable. Again, I mentioned that the Browns have literally no offensive line. The Bears. That's fine. Even though there's not probably not going to be a lot of dropbacks in that game.
Sully Shaheed: But if you want the shutout, ah the Bears? Question mark. But yeah, Jacksonville.
Chilly: I mean, do you want to go on do you want to go on the narrative that Stefanski is trying to ruin Sanders' career so he might just make him pass a lot in this game?
Sully Shaheed: You know what, after that two-point conversion bullshit last week? um Yeah, I'm here for that.
Chilly: It feels like a thing, like boots on the ground. It really does.
Sully Shaheed: Feels like a thing.
Chilly: It does feel like a thing almost.
Sully Shaheed: Feels like a thing. Feels like a thing. Baker, who you got on defense, man?
Baker: So Adam Scheffler just tweeted this out with running back Josh Jacobs questionable for Sunday due to the knee injury the Packers elevated quarter running back Pierre Strong Jr. for Sunday's game so it looks like if they're elevating there could be some concerns with Josh Jacobs just wanted to throw that out there.
Sully Shaheed: Yep.
Chilly: mean, that makes sense, but, like, you know Jacobs. Jacobs will be out there with, like, half a body stealing carries.
Chilly: I mean, for real, dude. that That dude is so ignorant. He's, ah, I'm not playing, I'm not playing. Then he goes out there. He gets 15 totes for, like, 80 yards, no touchdowns. It's like, bro, I could have just played the backup here. God damn it.
Baker: But as far as defensive takes, I don't give a fuck.
Sully Shaheed: cool you're playing Jacksonville with me find the money for Jacksonville got it uh Chili who got oh yeah
Chilly: For defense? ah Yeah, at this point, Bears, Jags.
Chilly: if you if If you got a punt, if so
Sully Shaheed: I got a feeling there's going to be a good amount of punting on defense this week because we want to jam in so much.
Chilly: ah but if I'm going to punt, maybe the Chargers?
Chilly: Eh.
Sully Shaheed: just play the Just play the Raiders at 2K. Philadelphia is broken, bro.
Chilly: I just don't feel – if I'm playing Jalen Hurts, I just don't believe. I don't think Philadelphia is going to be broken. But, I mean, if I –
Sully Shaheed: And you're not Jalen Hurts, Stax.
Chilly: ph
Baker: Edgerbet, Edgerbet. There you go
Sully Shaheed: Hedge, hedge, hedge, hedge.
Sully Shaheed: Oh, shit, I'm here for it. I'm here for it. um Well, I mean, we've been talking for a while, but, ah you know, I think these contrarian shows, like, get us into the correct mindset going into Sunday. But we got to make some extra money.
Sully Shaheed: We got to put some money out there. Pigs for the parlay. It is time to pray for the parlay. So if you haven't already, make sure you like and subscribe. First of all, hit that follow button on your podcast streets. Make sure you catch every new episode of the DFS Deli brought to you by, of course, Chill and Bake and myself.
Sully Shaheed: But we got to make some extra money, man. We got to get six legs, a hot 10 that we hit last week for the parlay. So if you need some extra coin,
Sully Shaheed: Join us and follow the parlay. So, Baker, who are your picks for the DFS Deli special, the Hot 10? Who is the Hot 10 for you?
Baker: so like i tease before we go we're gonna work
Sully Shaheed: I'm not fucking playing 2-2 fucking Atwell. It is not going to happen. You better get an alternate because I am not spending my hard-earned American dollars on 2-2 Atwell. It's not going to happen.
Chilly: his any's His anytime touchdown, I don't feel like is high enough. It's only a plus 370.
Sully Shaheed: Maybe Vegas knows something. But then remember, remember Taysom Hills was plus 120 that week when I picked them. So I don't want to fucking hear it.
Chilly: and rather I'd rather, I honestly would rather play Tesla in that same game Tutu Atwell.
Sully Shaheed: Well, all he does is catch touchdowns, though. I mean, Tesla is a good bet for a touchdown.
Chilly: Tesla. and But Baker, it seems like Tutu Atwell is getting the boot, so we play him.
Sully Shaheed: It's
Chilly: Hmm. Hmm.
Baker: I'm so when this parlay hits for me, because I play to Hatwell, just know you people missed out
Sully Shaheed: just you.
Baker: And I'm only talking to YouTube, not the people watching this on on the Internet. YouTube missed out on thousands upon thousands upon hundreds of thousands of dollars because you need up cause you did not play Tutu Atwell.
Sully Shaheed: Hundreds of thousands.
Baker: you guys' fault, YouTube.
Sully Shaheed: Got it. Hit him with it, Zoe.
Baker: Bada boom, realest guy in the room. How you doing? All right. So if you don't want, if you don't want to, you want to take Tutu away from me, which I think is absolute blasphemy.
Baker: Like, I am so, I am so beyond limit with you right now.
Sully Shaheed: Heh.
Baker: All
Sully Shaheed: If you pay Tutu Atwell, just going to put Jack Beck in it and really fuck it up.
Baker: right. In that case, come back to me. let Give me a second because I was, I was had doubt dead on Tutu, so give me a second. Come back.
Chilly: Listen, how about this?
Sully Shaheed: Chill. Hit me.
Chilly: We will do a secondary parlay. We'll do three picks.
Sully Shaheed: Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Chilly: The guys...
Sully Shaheed: All right. Yeah, yeah.
Chilly: Okay, and the guys got to be like plus 200 and above. Alright?
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, a secondary three leg, a gross three leg, and a solid six leg.
Chilly: Yeah. A gross three leg. Alright? We'll do a gross three leg. That way everybody can get everybody can get their fill in.
Sully Shaheed: I'm here for this.
Chilly: me Give me some Brown...
Sully Shaheed: I'm here for this.
Chilly: a give me some aj brown
Sully Shaheed: Okay.
Chilly: and then uh my second pick um give me some george kittle
Sully Shaheed: Ooh, okay. A little squiddle me bit. All right. I'm here for that. um Since Baker's still contemplating, I am going to take Isaiah Likely to to get out of the ah the the cursed realm of actually scoring touchdowns.
Chilly: so
Sully Shaheed: And, hmm. I mean, you already took your 49ers, so I'm not going to jam in CMC. you know, CMC is very obvious, but... You know what? J-Mo.
Sully Shaheed: Jamison Williams. I'm going to go with J-Mo on this one.
Sully Shaheed: Baker, who you got for that six-legger?
Baker: So you took my second one. And Jamison Williams, you piece of shit.
Sully Shaheed: Nah. Should have went first.
Baker: ah That's fair. So I didn't really talk about him, but I did mention him on Wednesday as well. On the other side of Josh Allen, I think what pushes Josh Allen, once again, is this run game.
Baker: So give me Trey Beyond Henderson.
Sully Shaheed: Trey Henderson.
Sully Shaheed: And the last leg of the parlay, make.
Chilly: Sorry.
Baker: And the last leg. oh if you're going Isaiah likely i'm playing the two of them together does that mean I take mark Andrews.
Sully Shaheed: You want both Baltimore tight ends on the same parlay?
Baker: Mike Nobley, i'm playing him in DFS might as well play them here together to.
Sully Shaheed: Mark Andrews.
Baker: Mike Nobley, might as well, are you going explain this one for me to.
Sully Shaheed: Nope.
Chilly: i I personally don't like it, but that's okay. We live, we ride.
Sully Shaheed: We ride, chill. We ride. Let's ride. ah Chill, who you got for the gross parlay? The gross three-legger.
Chilly: let me ah Let me find ah let I'll get you a gross one. young i needda I'm to need to wait for that one. ah let me Let me look up the numbers.
Sully Shaheed: You're good.
Sully Shaheed: Well, Baker's going 2-2 Atwell, correct?
Baker: The numbers, Mason, of course.
Sully Shaheed: I'm going Mr.
Baker: We are, oh my God.
Sully Shaheed: Beck.
Chilly: Our deli parlay is plus 27,972.
Sully Shaheed: Yeah, I'm doing it.
Chilly: That's...
Sully Shaheed: What?
Chilly: that's That's what I got. A hot 10 wins you 2.7.
Sully Shaheed: I'm here for it.
Chilly: Shit, I should.
Chilly: Yeah, like.
Sully Shaheed: Might throw 25 on it. Wow. That's not bad.
Chilly: Well, the funny thing is, is Isaiah likely does fit into the gross parlay at plus 220.
Sully Shaheed: really
Chilly: Yeah, at least I'm a fan duel, yeah.
Sully Shaheed: wow let's say
Chilly: But hold on, let me place this bet, and then going to look for a.
Sully Shaheed: that's not bad
Chilly: ah guy here.
Sully Shaheed: While chills looking Baker, who's your favorite stack for this week? Who should the people glob on to?
Baker: So ah like the Matt Stafford double. um I like that. I like all jokes aside. I do actually really like Tutu. So Tutu, Puka, Matt Stafford.
Baker: I really like that with a JMO run back. I do like the way it differentiates you with Lamar Jackson playing both his tight ends. um And then I like, i like my Josh Allen stuff.
Baker: um Running Josh Allen where fit with, with Duncan Kade. So those are, I give you three of them. You asked for when I gave you three.
Sully Shaheed: Well, that's fine. I mean, obviously my, my, I'll give you three, two, seeing as how two of ours match Lamar with X tight end, um Matt Stafford with, you know, Devante or Puka, if you can fit it.
Baker: Thank you.
Sully Shaheed: And, you know, Cody Parkinson, if you want to just throw in the extra person. um And then, like I said, that Jameson Williams run back is pretty hot. And I, I, You know, like i said, if I'm super punting, it's going to be the Kenny Pickett revenge dagger. I really want to find a way and a reason to play Brock Bowers this week. Yes, I feel like he can be a one-off. You don't definitely don't have the Jack Kenny Pickett with you. But um with his price and what it allows you to fit in the rest of your lineup um kind of makes you absolutely different. I mean, you can do that and chalk and still have a shot.
Sully Shaheed: So those are but those are my three picks right there. So... Chill favorite stacks and a gross pick for the parlay.
Baker: Tighten
Chilly: a Gross pick for the parlay. Give me some DK.
Sully Shaheed: Chimary DK.
Chilly: if And then ah and it adds stacks for the week.
Sully Shaheed: Okay. Hot 10 on a three-legger.
Chilly: um Eagles. Again, ah I do like the Eagles stuff. ah Titans, because this is the growth show. ah Titans.
Chilly: um On the same side of that game, San Francisco. um i don't think a lot of people are playing the San Francisco passing game. That could be more of a swaption for you. If you really need to get weird, you just swap to that game and pray.
Chilly: um So those two. And then, you know, kind of from there, it's just, again, it's really spread out. Burrow, Lamar, both sides of that ball as well. So there's just a ton of good options you can honestly go to this week. So I'm really not going to try to condense myself to one.
Chilly: ah But i like for sure, i will have the Eagles in some sense.
Sully Shaheed: I'm with it. Well, if you made it to this point in the show, we appreciate y'all. We of course wish you the best of luck on your main slate rosters and your tournaments this week. Get weird. Have fun.
Sully Shaheed: For Baker, chill. I've been your boy, Sully. This has been the DFS Deli, the secret menu. And we were going to close up the shop. And of course, see you all at the top. Peace listening. Peace.
