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Tonight, Blaze and Jeff will be reviewing and commenting on “Scrooged!” A twisted retelling of the classic Charles Dicken’s” A Christmas Carol.” Starring Bill Murry. Welcome and enjoy.
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Introduction and Movie Overview
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Hey, Jeff, do you hear me? Yeah. Oh, good. I'm an asshole. I forgot to. I was I was sitting there dancing along to the stupid song. I forgot to share this out. So go ahead. You're good. My audio trip there for a moment. I want to make sure everything was good. But tonight, guys,
00:01:54
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Jeff and I are going to watch and talk about Scrooge, starring Bill Murray, Karen Allen, and John Forsythe, directed by Richard Donner, and the writers Mitch Glaser, Michael O'Donohue, and Charles Dickens.
Initial Impressions of 'Scrooge'
00:02:10
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Charles Dickens gets writing credit because this is a story, a twisted retelling of A Christmas Carol. Correct. Yes. Which I've always had a problem with that story anyway.
00:02:23
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but go right ahead, Jeff. Well, okay. So before we start, I want to talk about my past with this movie. I never liked this movie. And the reason I say that is like, when I first saw it, granted, this came out in the 88. When I saw this movie the first time, I was like, wow, this movie is a big piece of shit. However, I think I've changed.
00:02:52
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Interesting, okay. For the simple fact, and I'll get to it when we get to the part, it's, I got a different feel on this one. If you want to go ahead real quick, don't forget to show our little QR code. If you people want to watch the movie with us, they can. didn't you um Didn't you pick this movie? No, this was all you, buddy. This was all you.
00:03:20
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I don't remember because I picked the movie before that. I picked last week. I think that was me. Yeah.
Movie Ratings Discussion
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Because last week we watched Die Hard. That was my pick. This is all you. In the next week is a Christmas story. Correct. So real quick, before we start on IMDB, this is 6.9 out of 10.
00:03:42
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So my, uh, popcorn meter, it's a 3.7 out of five, uh, five out of 10 on the tomato meter and 71%. Um, popcorn movie. Uh, yeah, I think that's all I got. id like to see How many, uh, how many pot leaves they get at the, at the end of this one? Yeah. Cause I think, like I said, I think I've changed my opinion on after rewatching.
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I honestly
Weekly Streaming Schedule
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hadn't seen this movie. my ten year old self is thinking i um I remember i remembered it being better. Really? I remember it being a lot worse. Yeah, i'm gonna hit I'm gonna hit play on it. Oh, wait, oh wait before we. Yeah, shout out to the network. bug Yeah, shout out to nonsensical network. um I do want to give our a lineup real quick. They changed a few of our options here on streaming arts. So Mondays, we have speed stories and cold blooded conversations. And then we go into men caring for men, which this Monday, there will be one, uh, Glick and I will be up there. Uh, Tuesdays, Glick's house of music.
00:04:58
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holidays are on us um you might see some uh repeats uh Wednesday you got what the fuck news Thursday is Jeff's garage Friday is and I got a couple of things I got I got in the works for Jeff's garage probably okay good good good good uh Fridays you're here with us uh remember bring your own fucking popcorn and Saturdays we have uh what do we have Saturday we have Cassius Corner in the morning Cassius Corner in the morning Yeah, I think it's around 11 o'clock when I see it pop up. It's not going to be right this time of year. Obviously, it's the holidays, so Cash is at his mom's this year. Next year, I think he's going to be at his dad's, so it's like you know year one year on and off. um But yeah, it's when Cash is home, they're going to do it in Cash's corner.
00:05:46
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ah And then that setting and Saturday evenings we have the flagship show, nonsensical nonsense, where we run amok, let anyone up on the panel and we just have a good old time. That reminds me this Saturday, please everybody tune into this Saturday show because I got us a little game to play that I think even you will like buddy. Is it pin the is it pin the the nose on Rudolph?
00:06:16
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No, no, this this is a this is a you know, in the past we did the starting five. I got something that might replace it. Mm. Reindeer. Yeah. Love it. Lick and I were talking about it. We already have the first one. Sundays in the week or start the week with unnecessary roughness, however you look at Sundays. And that brings us to back to where we are right now, Jeff.
00:06:46
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Okay, right I got everything shared out. Yeah, go ahead start the movie.
Character Analysis: Frank Cross
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Let's rock and roll Okay, okay so in the beginning of this movie, you know, obviously Bill Murray's character he's a he's the he's the president for He okay, so he is not the overall CEO of this company. He is, what he run he is the boss of a portion of this huge entertainment corporation controls. ah Yeah, he controls one part of it. He does he does answer to a boss. Again, this is a twisted retailing of a Christmas Carol.
00:07:31
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Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol, when I say twisted, originally this was supposed to be more R-rated. I guess maybe for 88 it might have been considered R-rated. I don't remember. Well, so there's something you're going to notice, and and I don't know if you noticed it, but I noticed it when I was rewatching. This movie is ahead of its time.
00:07:53
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and Explain why when we get there. You'll see it here in a minute. ah Something Bill Murray says in the very beginning of the movie, when because he's showing this trailer, and the trailer of course is for ah the movie they made called The Night the Reindeer Died. um story murray's character bill's Bill Murray's character is named Frank Castle.
00:08:21
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correct Which is funny because that's the same name as the Punisher. I didn't notice that. No, I thought it was Cross. No, you're right. It is. It is. It's Frank Cross. It is. Because there's something funny when you first meet his brother, who has actually lived at Bill Murray's real brother. Oh, I was going to make a comment about that on the window. with yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I noticed that and I was like, nice.
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Uh, but yeah, so this trailer, now this, this TV channel has three kind of made for TV movies. Yeah. The first one being the night the reindeer died. Uh, then the, the, there's one called, um,
00:09:10
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Love fever. Okay. Because it's a leave it to Beaver kind of thing. And there's another one. I can't remember what it is. It's going to show it here. Look at Lee Majors with a fucking... Lee Majors is a bad dude. It's Lee Majors. Six million dollar man. You've been watching that show. I've never seen a full episode. andra hill of but I watched that when I was a kid, man. I remember his truck. Well, that was the ball guy.
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Oh, that's what I'm thinking of. What? He wasn't Paul Guy, wasn't he? He was a star guy and a six million dollar man became came first. OK, so I'm confusing those two shows. So I need to go back. The night the night the right here died. So there's that movie. And then this is.
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that Oh, I got to turn off my thing. Bob Goulet is the old fashioned. Bob Goulet's old fashioned hated Christmas.
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or Or... Hold on, this is a... So out of these three shows, the... Mm-hmm. So, I find it weird, like the first... What's... He's out chasing Bieber. Father loves Bieber. Out of the three
Movie Trivia and Production Insights
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of those, which one are you watching?
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Depends on the mood, I mean. Well, what my thing is, it's like, I'm totally watching the Lily Majors movie. Because every father loves beaver could go either way. If I was into action, it would be that one. If I was in a softcore porn, it would be dad loves or father loves beaver. Right? It does sound like a softcore porn movie. His hair is terrible in this movie. So this has got to want to be more. Yeah.
00:11:06
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Well, he does later in the movement. I have a problem with this. So he just they just spent all that money making all those trailers. And my and then he makes his own. new york So he's kind of wasting money here because he's he's got that real. They'll never get it right. I better do it my own way. Oh, well, OK, so he's specifically talking about this show that he's doing. Right.
00:11:36
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Yeah, not so not the other ones. Right, right. Yeah. That's the one they did. this is in there he also does This movie also has Bob Goldway. I can't pronounce his name. Bobcat Goldway. See, look, yeah they just showed their trailer and he's like, that sucked. Let's leave mine. So they made that one.
00:12:03
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And then while they're making that, he made his own. you written my kids I love Mary Lou Renton in this. Everybody loves an acrobat. So that's an 80s, 80s reference right there. Oh yeah. Mary Lou Renton. She was the golden child of the gymnastics world. live tv show you guys haveve got an end Did he say 40 million?
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so ah but and problem fireplace Fire, fireplace. now
00:12:35
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What he says here is is kind of reminiscent of what is today. He says people need to be scared to miss the show. um Tell me that's not today's news. No, that's just today's media. I mean, that' what i'm saying oh I mean, like you got to be scared to miss it.
00:12:55
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you gotta be like that fear of missing out. It taps into that, we have this this thing we have to know. We have to, right i think I think that's why the MCU movies have done so well, even though they've gone downhill. It's like people have to like, what's happening next? I have to know kind of type bullshit. Interesting fact here, Bobcat Goldwyn was originally supposed to be played by Sam Kinison. Yeah, I was gonna say that a moment ago.
00:13:26
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But you kind of chopped me off there, buddy. I apologize brand i can help um <unk> the kind of thing i would have done Sam was asked actually supposed to play another part first got overlooked on that They got overlooked on this one. He got really pissed off because it was a a competing comedian at the time Well, I've never been a big fan of Bobcat I find even annoying I'm trying to remember other things he's played in, because, like, you know his voice and his face, but that's the thing. I mean, is his roles aren't as memorable. No, but, like, funny thing is, he doesn't actually talk like that in real life. Oh, I know. No, that's ah that's a whole voice he puts on. That's his stick, so to speak. Stage voice. That's his character. um I mean, it's downplayed in this movie, but...
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Uh, yeah. What else did he play it? So the trailer he made, all it was, was just, just violence, straight up violence. That thing had nothing to do with the story. So this is when, uh, Bob's character is confronting men, confronting him on the trailer. It's too violent, bullshit. Then he gets fired in like, and I first speak in his mind. Yeah.
00:14:54
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Well, it kind of shows the the the fact that that Bill Murray's character is kind of an asshole. Like if you talk back to him, he's going to fire. He's a dictator. Well, I mean, that's still business on data that's kind of the whole point of the retelling of a Charles Dickens show. Frank Cross is the Scrooge of this money. Right.
00:15:14
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was just looks like you know Bobcat Goldwing was also in some John Cusack movies, by the way. I just, he's not that great of a... you know He was huge. Like I'm not saying, I'm not saying Sam Kinneson would have been any better in this role. I think this role... It kind of goes either way. miss Honestly, I think nowadays they probably would have cast Kevin Hart at that in this role. Ooh. That's a shot, but yeah, I agree.
00:15:49
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They they'd cast. Who plays great then changes locks seen our desk Grace? Grace, OK, so she was on some cop show before she came. This is something I was wondering while watching this. Yeah, she had she got her know her crime show on television and then she came over to this movie. I really yeah. in the hell Like so this movie had the movie that when this movie first came out, it did well with audiences.
00:16:19
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but it didn't do well with the cisco's and ebert's of the uh of the movie review world at the time uh i think because it's kind of like a head of its time kind of thing move to a studio i don't think it's ahead of its time i just think it was because it was commentary on big business that people got right hurt my feelings why don't you kind of attitude when they watched
Frank's Selfishness and Relationships
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it oh that's a good point i didn't think of that as no video record
00:16:49
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Okay. Well, I mean, well, think about it. Think think of Bob's character later on, man. He fucking grat gets a shotgun that comes gunning down at this, at this quote unquote CEO. Uh, interesting fact. A VCR in 88 in today's money is like a thousand dollars, dude. No shit. A thousand to $1,500. Wow. Wow. You can write.
00:17:18
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They were $500 a pop back then. Damn. I looked it up. So, and he's giving out top of the line. So, so when he gives out a VCR, they're not cheap. And you know what? At 44, a good bath towel, I'm not mad at either.
00:17:38
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They either get a towel or VCR. You have to be really special to get that VCR. In other words, You have had to have made him money to get a VCR. Right. jerry jo five hundred pus on pop If you don't, you get a $40 towel or a facial towel. is that like a grass to grace Grace had a choice of a bath towel or a facial towel? No, he said put yourself down for a towel.
00:18:07
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and yeah and That's just fucked up. Yeah, and then he threatened her. I'm like, fuck you motherfucker, I'm getting VCR. correct later and some of the think we're getting This is the owner of the company.
00:18:19
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yes ri didn't want Yes. And you can tell where like everybody else under him, under Frank, or subordinate wise, he's a total fucking dick too. Oh yeah, but he sucked up to the owner.
00:18:35
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He sucks up, but you can tell he really fucking hates it. Oh, the boss you mean? Yeah, he hates having to suck up to a boss. He hates having a boss. He hates not being in control. This guy actually makes a younger appearance and goes to Christmas past at the Christmas party. a study from hampstead university but shows Well, yeah, what part? and he he He literally tells Frank, he's like, you realize there's a fucking party going on. That's not that guy. That's a different. It's not the same guy. No, that's the guy. That's that's the ghost of Christmas yeah or. No, that's the buddy that tells him tells him. Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's your Jacob Marley. Yes, there. Yeah, that's that guy. OK, I can't remember his name, but google I can't remember. That's the guy that comes up like, dude, you realize there's a party going on.
00:19:30
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And that's when they flash back and that's when bolt Bill Murray's got that one. Work, work, work. But you can tell, like I said, Frank Cross, or Bill Murray's character just absolutely hates, hates not being in charge. Speaking of Bill Murray, apparently making this movie was very difficult because of Bill Murray. Bill Murray's a very eccentric person.
00:19:58
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very manic anxiety and it's in the writers of this movie, especially the Donahue guy absolutely fucking hated this movie because just about all everything that was written for Bill Murray, Bill Murray said fucking have just about this entire movie. Right. But this is the also the first movie that Bill Murray has to carry.
00:20:24
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Yeah, this is his first solo, solo, solo star movie. Yeah. Without, without Lex That's Lex Luthor. next lu That's Lex Luthor. From what? From Smallville. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Or not. That's Lionel. Sorry, Lionel Luthor. Okay. yeah That's Lionel Luthor. Sorry, Lionel Luthor. I apologize. Lex's father. Yeah, Lex's father. Yes. I need a 44. I've got a guy named Bryce.
00:20:53
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come Um, Bryce Cummings is not the bad guy here. I'm sorry. He's made out to be the bad guy closer to the other movie. ah But he's there literally there to help.
00:21:09
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yeah Yes, but in the corporate world, that also means he's also better. Yeah, it's agreed. I'm here. I'm here to help. I'm here to help you fuck or watch you fuck up and report you to the boss.
00:21:22
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Yeah, pretty much. That's what he's there. That's what he's he's there as a babysitter and in in the hopes of of getting well getting the reins. They actually think during that luncheon thing. This right here across is a thing. You know, when I read that, I absolutely lost my shit. I i like that. So I'm going to pause it real quick. So In Christian media,
00:21:53
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um in writings and stuff, and the this this this story is based on a Christmas car carol from Charles Dickens, is is a Christian based story. oh um Well, a lot lot of times like the evil person is betrayed as an atheist.
00:22:13
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And so we're like, yes, yes. There's a lot of bad stigma when it comes out. Especially, especially in the eighties, after this cold war, after the whole atheist and commies are bad. right A lot of atheists got a lot of shit because of that. Anyway, so I read this, that's that's where my mind went. I was like, oh, this is a pop shot at the big one. But at the end of the day, when you really think about it, like if my last name was Cross, I would have that on my wall because that's hilarious. Oh, fuck yeah, I would too.
00:22:49
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Now do you notice most of these musicians like Paul Shafer's there from the Tonight Show band? All these musicians are real musicians. much like Paul Shafer was playing that keyboard. I didn't realize that dude was actually his brother in real life. Yeah, that's his real brother. Interesting. He has four brothers and I think they're all in this movie. But he had three brothers.
00:23:16
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um an old family' be there
00:23:21
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I could be wrong, but I thought he had three brothers. I thought it was four. I have to check. He has four in there. Oh, OK. There's John, Joel, Brian, and Edward. And Andy. So it's five. Oh, geez. That's a big Andy. Brian Joel Murphy is actually his father. He actually plays his dad in the movie. That's his real father. Interesting. He's such an asshole. He just stole at Lenny's cab.
00:23:50
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Oh, yeah. ah Yeah. Well, I mean, they go out of the way to really make this guy look like he's a total fucking dirtbag. But it's New York. Everybody feels everybody's can't go. Well, it's New York. Everybody's a fucking dickhead. Well, that's true. always the chair So I love how he sits here and says, I'm going to cherish this fucking Mrs. Valuable Award and blah, blah, blah. And he just leaves it in the cab. Yeah.
00:24:18
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He's just he doesn't. Well, yeah, it's one of those things. It's like he's like, yeah, you know what? Dude, he he supposedly spends this entire time drunk, but but you never see him drink. See, he just dropped the bottle. He did his character devolves so quickly. Like he got fired that day. His wife's wife left him and he's on the fucking on side of the on the side of the street trying to get drunk with him.
00:24:47
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he just leaves he just leaves ah the the trophy left of the cab he's like fuck it i don't know yeah but but to him those are a dime a dozen that's what i mean like his what he really cherishes the money his acceptance speech was just empty platitude yeah lucky Like I said, I mean, they really go out of the way to make this character look like there's one abomination. But you look at people who act like this nowadays, and they're patted on the back for you. Oh, yeah. They're patted on the back. They're like heroes, too. They're like heroes. They're like heroes. Wow.
00:25:28
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Yeah, let's be honest. I mean, it if I was Frank Cross, granted I wouldn't fire people for no reason, but I would work as much as he does because I'm sure he gets paid a shit ton.
00:25:39
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full family like to Yeah, go ahead. All right. So what I did, no, go ahead. ah No, but like, you got to figure, we're we talked about CEOs, you know, on the other show, one of our other shows, and you know, some are making like $10 million dollars a year. Dude, if ah you're paying me $10 million a year, I need to be on call 24-7.
00:26:06
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You know what's really funny is this guy, he's rich and he's expensive suits, um expensive office, all that good jazz, but he drinks the cheapest fucking booze. Bacardi and Coke, dude. What the fuck? Well, he just pulled, he just poured a vodka, but it was like one of those cheap vodkas, not smear yeah on those other cheap ones.
00:26:35
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like and i was often and I've often realized that in movies where they'll have this big rich character, but because they're not thinking about it, they got cheap ass fucking booze they're drinking from. Well, what but but it's isn't that kind of like creature habit kind of thing? Yeah. like he because he washo He grew up poor. So at at him, he's like, I've always bought this crap shit. I'm going to keep buying the crap shit because I'm used to it.
00:27:05
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there was a dude I knew in Central Oregon. He was a he was a well off individual. He's a millionaire. He didn't work. He was retired but he was sad in life and he drank. He was an alcoholic like it was affecting his health like like if if if he if I find out this dude's dead in the next five years cuz alcohol won't be surprised right and he would buy he would drink like almost a fifth of day but that's gets expensive. So he draked yeah yeah not so If he's rich and drinking that much fucking cheap liquor, it might be because that's all I don't think he's drink. I don't think it he because he doesn't really drink a lot in the movie. Well, and and but I think he also takes his habits from his mentor, this guy, the the ghost, because the guy's drinking Bacardi and Coke and it's a little like a splash of coke.
00:27:57
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yeah And Bacardi is like cheap. Well, it's Tab, correct. It's Tab and Bacardi. But he literally says, take it easy on the Bacardi. Bacardi's like five bucks for a fifth, dude. Calm down. It's 1990, not right now. But yeah, it was yeah exactly. In the 80s, it's still- Bacardi's not cheap. Bacardi's cheap. Like, Rome is not expensive in general.
00:28:27
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the You know what I mean? Not a good run Because I mean if I was if I was that rich and I drank on occasion My my liquor shelf would have expensive fucking bourbon. I'd have good stuff, right? Yeah and but Yeah yeah um But I think it's kind of comes down to a creature or habit thing because the dude started it, you know, he started technically a dog costume and mukin but the poison by turn You know what I mean? and He drinks Russian vodka. Fucking poison by Chernobyl. Nice.
00:29:06
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I can't just smell his breath. He's like, yeah. Let's be on door let's be honest, Lou. He played for the women. That is a great line. you're a legend I do. I mean, no lie. I absolutely like the makeup. Yeah.
00:29:24
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Like as an undead person, it looks pretty dusty and decayed. It's pretty dope. Like the makeup was really good this week. I guess they won an award. They almost got an Emmy, or not an Emmy, but an Oscar for makeup in this book. OK. I think they got beat out by Beetlejuice. I could see that happening. I definitely see that. I think they got gypped because this dude's makeup is amazing.
00:29:54
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joke I don't know. Beetlejuice is free. And as a kid, but as a kid, the the third ghost scared the shit out of me.
00:30:06
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Funny enough. So as a kid, I watched a lot of horror movies. So in this, when I watched this, I watched it in, in the perspective of like a Christmas Halloween movie, like a Christmas horror movie. Yeah. Which it does have, I mean, it does have some,
00:30:23
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some what's it called? Shoot, it's another name for dark. Well, it's kind of like a noir thing. Yeah, well, yeah, it's not so much noir is a dark setting. Right. So much. a But but this is like a dark comedy. It is. Yeah. But there's a specific name for it.
00:30:49
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And Anthony Jeselnik is one of the biggest purveyors of that type of comedy. Oh, okay. What the fuck it's called. Oh, it's going to kill me. I'll remember it
Show Changes and Future Content
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later though. I have a question for you. um Yeah, because I'm about to answer your question and we're going to go. Well, actually, when we come back, when we come back, I'll ask my question because it or when she shows up, I'll ask you. Okay, let's go on a break. Just real quick, I want to give a shout out to our bio link.
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00:32:10
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oh Fallin' down drunk on Christmas Eve It's just, oh yeah, holiday I'm nukin' my family memories in the new old fashioned way Like my daddy knocked down my Christmas tree All blood old out on stocks He punched Grandma, broke her teeth, and the neighbors called the cops
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family snapshot is my daddy's naked rear net cop car Daddy P and RTV as the Christmas spirit passed EOD on LSD and it trashed the ambulance
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drunk tank I got him.
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so i'm falling Down drunk on Christmas Eve on my
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Hey, this is Arnold Schwarzenegger. Thank you for listening to my music. Make sure you listen to my other tracks like Billy. It's all here. Pick one. And this is Movie Nerd's 12 Days of Christmas. Until next time, I'll see you choir boys at the movies.
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00:37:06
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Welcome back. We are about oh a little less than a third through scrooged. Um oh yeah we do have discord but you know it is what it is. and I do i have we do have some changes. I'm gonna take a moment tell some changes that are coming up to the show for the new year after next week after we do a Christmas story. We're gonna be doing more heavy on fan made films, fan made trailers, bring some content, some some visuals to the eyeballs out there and some reaction from Jeff and I, especially if we haven't seen it. I'm sure we'll pick some stuff we haven't seen. So I was going through YouTube. There's so much of stuff on there. There's Vimeo and stuff. So yeah, so we're going to bring more fan films, maybe a single one. or maybe two or three, depending on the length, because they vary, so. and And the beauty of that is, you and I were talking about before, is we can actually reach out to the people that made it, and even they can be there so we can talk about the move. When we get to that that hurdle, that is a hurdle. and That level, yeah. Yeah, all right, back to the move. Burn that bridge when we get there, but yeah. but Yeah, yeah. So here's my question.
00:38:28
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Actor Performances
00:38:30
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ex girlfriend, what is your main thought on her? maybe not i don't know but i and She's a people pleaser. fuck no matter what its Yeah, I don't I don't know if I like remember like the actress. I like the actress. She does a great job. I don't see yeah I see her as a major love interest. Like she's you know, it's you know, it's you know, it's funny is behind the scenes. They they're acting styles clashed.
00:38:59
Speaker
Oh really? Not that she was like mad about it. It was frustrating but I guess she said in an interview once like he's got one of those acting styles that he just can't mimic. He can't recreate. You know it's it's his own. Right. So yeah he's he's he's he's kind of a one-off. Yeah well Bill Murray's always been one of those actors that like his. He's not a facial baler.
00:39:26
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Yeah. His personal. Yeah. Well, no, no, no, no, no. You missed it. She he gave her the option. You want the regular towel or do you want a facial towel? Oh, I didn't catch that. Yeah. So, that's so fucked up. I read what I was saying.
00:39:46
Speaker
What was I saying? I'm not sure. i well Dude, isn't that kind of like child abuse? They're gonna light that kid up with Christmas lights. I think that was kind of fucked up because everybody's laughing about it. The kid looks sad and his mom's the only one there that notices that. Well, when you find out out why the kid doesn't speak, it's really fucked up. What do you think about this character? this ah I don't know if she's a secretary.
00:40:17
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No, I think she's, uh, like, I think she's one of the producers, not a producer, but like... she has solicitor She's so far up his ass. Right? Yeah. Um, so... His reaction is 100% nowadays. This scene right here, the they're discussing the trailer that he made gave an old woman a heart attack.
00:40:43
Speaker
And she died. And he's like, you can't fight publicity like this. So his fix is to put a warning at the beginning of the trailers. And if you're old, it's in the room. But it's one of those things. It's like, I love this line. Why not? Specifically, you can see her nipple. I want to see her nipple. I want to see her nipples, he says. Well, Charles Dickens would have wanted to see her nipple. Charles Dickens would have wanted to see her nipple.
00:41:12
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har There it is. You know, he's not, are really looking you know, he's not lying because if you think about it, though, the workers, the guys working around, they're going to be like, Oh, shit, dude, you see? Yeah. Well, and that's, that's kind of the thing of the watch out. That's eighties. They, they, they, they try to push the limit.
00:41:39
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this This sensor lady gets beat up in this movie. she Speaking of violence in this movie, there was actually real onset violence. Oh, no shit. Yeah. So um there's a few parts of the movie where he actually gets hurt because he falls. Oh, that's right. Yeah.
00:42:05
Speaker
And then with the ghost of Christmas as present, yeah the fairy. She ripped it out. Yeah, he actually had to take some time off to heal. They had to close down. And he also got sick because of the fake snow.
00:42:23
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Yeah. It made him physically ill, but yeah like and the po stuff is like kids it was his suggestion that the fairy got that violent. He's like particle is, is like physicality. So put a little bit of physicality in it. So those slide I thought she went too far in certain, no yeah like he wasn't mad about it. Like he encouraged her. No, no, no. I get that. But what I'm saying is I think she takes it too far and I'll get, I'll talk about it when we get there. Okay.
00:42:53
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the sea shall be a nimbble So she gets she gets hit in the head of course lay on the floor and he's just jerked her head look yeah like what a dick he's selfish he's just a selfish person they can't think outside of himself well off your number and the most annoying thing he does here he starts talking about the hammering but he is more annoying than the hammering cards most people call me mrra
00:43:24
Speaker
um sorry i'm new here and i got a problem i love this guy but guy with the mouse ah to try staples try state it's so fuck up work and we tried stables stable dare you staple that moment And that's the biggest contrast between these two. And it makes him happy that she gets so passionate about being good. Right. But he's so passionates he's so passionate about being an asshole. Well, I don't think he's passionate about being an asshole. He's like, we just got to make it work. No, he's passionate. Because the only reason that mouse is in there is because the the his boss is like, we got to start pandering to animals because they're watching more TV.
00:44:07
Speaker
this is this is true. And he was that's the mice are in there. And he did think that was a dumb idea. So yeah, that yeah, he's like, I don't really care about these fucking mice fucking use the state. yeah shit yeah like Yeah, I get that.
00:44:21
Speaker
Okay, even if, even if the kid was running around on Hollywood set to treat a kid like that, isn't it? Yeah, he's, he's an asshole. Yeah. like Like, I would have knocked him the fuck out of there. Like whose kid is this, but not grab the kid by the fucking shoe. Well, here's my other problem. She walks in the, his ex-girlfriend here, she walks in like she owns a fucking joint. It's not that easy to get onto a set. I don't care who you know. Is it? I don't know.
00:44:51
Speaker
I'm assuming. I remember walking on set before. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like, you see it in movies all the time. Like, one guy, he was playing a role. He was telling a story about he was playing a role. And for the role, he's a method actor. So he bought a shitty Corolla and he couldn't get on the lot. Because they're like, there's no way in hell the star of this movie will be driving a shitty Corolla.
00:45:19
Speaker
Her eyes are pretty fucking awesome. I like her eyes. She, she has moments of like, she's very sweet. And then she's like, Oh my God, I get over her very quickly. And then I'm like, she's sweet. again She played, i go back to war she played in an Indiana Jones movie. harvey ever home Yeah. And she played in something else. those are doing a couple of movie i mean Can't remember what it was.
00:45:45
Speaker
actually but She wasn't that like big of an actress I don't but god and your own body Hold the fucking hammering Carrie Allen is her name yeah <unk> in the face and got her attention and probably some She was in Raiders of the Lost Ark and came from the crystal skull um Oh, she was in the newest one ic or Well, no, she was in Crystal Skull, the one with the... ah ah is Wasn't that the newest one? I don't know. No, the newest one is the the time dial or something. Oh, no. Is it any... She was in the Sandlot. She played the mom in the Sandlot. All right. Been a bunch of movies. Is the newest Indiana Jones any good? It was all right. It wasn't great. A bit much. sad
00:46:38
Speaker
He's this is the lunch scene or the dinner scene as we spazzes out. Do you recognize the the waiter? Yes, I do. The fact that this guy walks around his own silverware and his rocket is very pretentious. And it's gold. And it's gold. And so he starts wiping his utensils off. Yeah.
00:47:08
Speaker
because he's mocking his boss. He's trying to. Is it is that what do you think he's doing or he's just doesn't trust that he's clean? No, no, no, he watched his boss start cleaning his utensils. So, he started. So, he copied eyes. Like he wants to.
00:47:24
Speaker
ah the green over but he he wants he wants to be a good employee I guess for him well yeah he wants to be like he doesn't want to be a good employee right he's like i'm smarter than you i'm in the trenches so to speak yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a yeah yeah i got it like you're you're you've lost touch with the public because you're a boss yes that's a very good i see where i say yes I see where you're going with that
00:47:56
Speaker
um lot of I Let these close-up scenes are pretty cool. They're creepy. They're very creepy You know I I see I see where he would be a threat to like this um Lionel Luther's character, whatever his name is, would be a threat because he's LA and they're New Yorkers, you know? There's a kind of rivalry when it comes to the business. Oh, he's from LA. I didn't pick up on that. Yeah, he's character from LA. Oh, so he's got that. That's why he's like, I'll have a Pellegrino and they're drinking scotch, you know? Yeah, I'll have a healthy California lunch.
00:48:39
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a sparkling water because i'm ah but um'm but I'm a hippie liberal from the West Coast. Yeah.
00:48:47
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So he's instantly hated by them. But the waiter is played by Socrates from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. So crats. So crates. So crates. You know, there is some debate if so if Socrates actually existed. There's some debate in academia. Oh, really? All the writings about Socrates was written by, quote unquote, his student, Plato. And i you think Plato made him up?
00:49:16
Speaker
Well, no, because no. Well, gentlemen that's the thing. Nobody really knows if if Plato made him up or not. Because even like ah like an omnipore. Well, it's OK. So then me like a no, a lot of philosophers back in the day and it kind of suits kind of like it kind of like stopped in the in the 1800s where the philosophers would when they typed when they wrote a manuscript, a lot of times he would do like a dialogue.
00:49:46
Speaker
It'd be like two people exchanging questions and answers in order ah to get to a point or to expose a bad argument or such and such. So a juxtaposition? No, it's not a juxtaposition. It's an actual diet. This line, he's like, I thought you were Richard Pryor.
00:50:11
Speaker
You know, you get that joke, right? No. You don't get that joke. Richard Pryor caught on fire. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at up Richard Pryor caught on fire. This was like I did not know that 80s. That's why he said that's why I was like, that's a fucked up. Oh, shit. i Richard Pryor. ah But. but but but
00:50:43
Speaker
Oh yeah. He was freebasing during the time. During a making of film. Attempted suicide by setting himself on fire the free but after freebasing several days in Northridge, California home. ah Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now that you know that, that makes us joke. Oh, that is such a fucked up joke because that, yeah you know granted it's it's it's in Frank's imagination, but that dude was engulfed in fire. Oh, I thought you were Richard Pryor. That's why he threw the water on him. That is so fucked up. yeah That makes it that much funnier. Makes it that much more. I know that's fucked up, but that's so much funnier.
00:51:29
Speaker
Uh, what do we think about the, the Ghost Grumps was fast? I love this This guy is funny. I like this character. de Like he's not very well known. That's what it's called. Dark homies also known as gallows humor. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Which that Richard Pryor joke would be gallows humor. Okay.
00:51:56
Speaker
Yeah. ah This guy, I don't know who this guy, I looked him up briefly. David Johansson. Yeah, I don't remember him being anything else at all. He was kind of big in the 80s. He was in kick. He actually was a singer on kick ass. Like the movie kick ass?
00:52:17
Speaker
Yeah, the movie kick ass. he he He we're all in love was the name of the song. hit He wrote that song. He just can't get a drink in. Yeah.
00:52:33
Speaker
I'm trying. He was in car 54. Where are you? That was a huge movie. So this was the other part that Sam kennison was supposed to get was the tax right which makes sense, which I think you would have been better in that part. But this guy does a good job. So I mean, I'm not saying switch it. So I think he was like musician. He's a musician. Oh, okay. So he did a bunch of music videos. Okay. Was he like a rocker? I have no idea. I've seen some pictures of them. I was like, it do looks like a, but like, I know. it's from he
00:53:10
Speaker
he was in the movie car 54 where are you which has uh john c mckinley in it and i love john c mckinley that's an old fucking show right well it was actually the movie version he was in oh okay um apparently in that cab bill murray almost died because he couldn't breathe with all the smoke dan just like that So he's in his past and they're the only house with no Christmas lights. Dude, but his dad owned his own business. yeah Because on the back of the car there, it says cross meets. It does. His dad was a businessman too. wrong guy But what fill it on but it's dadly if you, but if you, but if you, well, no, actually it betrays that they don't make decent money. Like he's struggling as a, as a, as a butcher.
00:54:06
Speaker
well In all honestly, does Frank Cross's character really have a bad childhood? I mean, let's be honest, as a kid, all we want to do is watch TV. So right so one of the one of the biggest problems I have with Christmas movies, and this goes for bridge about all of them, is if you're a person that doesn't celebrate Christmas or you're just like whatever, it's like you get heat for that.
00:54:35
Speaker
right for not for not participating in the reindeer games.
Frank's Childhood Debate
00:54:40
Speaker
You know what I mean? You get shunned for not participating. And I think that I think this has some this scene sort of has that in it, that element in it. Like you're being shamed for not putting up Christmas lights in song, right? But yeah, this is that Bill Murray's actual father. Oh, plays his dad in the movie.
00:55:02
Speaker
here friends see it looked like it was christmas lights in the in in the window uh... do five pounds of deal that's not a cheap yeah but ah you don't give a fucking kid meat first fucking christmas i mean i'm i'm a fucking i'm only four i can't work like
00:55:34
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See this, i he might be, this family might be like right under middle class, but not exactly in the whole poverty, but they're not. So Veal was priced at $20 a pound back then, dude. Okay. But if he's bringing home five pounds of fucking Veal to give to his son, why isn't it being bought? That's a good point. I mean, yeah, he's a butcher. but So he's kind of a shitty salesman.
00:56:02
Speaker
Probably not the best butcher or something. Yeah But I mean, yeah, I don't I don't know things well off like like you say But his motherlaw him and he's on side Squeezing out Niagara Falls. Well, he you know, they imply something here that this is not the only person this ever happens to like this happens every year and
00:56:32
Speaker
with somebody different, you know what I mean? Or or like 45, 30 people a year get Scrooge. They need a new, they need to remake Scrooge, but if instead of a ah media outlet boss, it's like maybe like a yeah podcaster. A podcaster. or Or a YouTuber. Or Amazon CEO.
00:57:01
Speaker
Well, like, okay, if you were going to recast this, if you were going to recast this. I don't, I don't know about, before we get to the recasting, I'm talking about modering not, modering not, modering nice, modering bringing up to date the whole setting, like a, like Bezos as Scrooge, you know, or, you know, with himself.
00:57:24
Speaker
Like in his anti-union busting or his aunt is union busting shit. Or the CEO of Walmart. why he's at that Yeah, something like that. I think that would be cool. Office party time. You know what? I'm not mad at that copier.
00:57:43
Speaker
So this is... So the guy you were talking about, they just showed him in that sports place. Yeah, that is the guy. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. um But if you're gonna recast this movie, tell me that the ghost of Christmas past isn't Steve Davidson. Steve Davidson. Not Steve, what's his name?
00:58:06
Speaker
yeah in new but what's What's the guy that dated Pete Davidson? Sorry, Pete Davidson. That's Pete Davidson in five years right there.
00:58:17
Speaker
pete davidson you have to be a little bit more specific he didn't ki kardashian oh shit I really don't know. ah don't know yeah I'll get you a picture. I think it's like if I was a driver or that goes to Christmas past. I don't know. It's a good one but why is he got elf ears? I never noticed his ears. I think that's literally how his ears are in real life No, they're not. no There's no fucking way. I don't know. This is Pete Davidson, dude. yeah Tell me that's not Pete Davidson in a couple of years. Yeah. All right. He'd be perfect. I hate fucking Pete Davidson, but he'd be perfect. just the ghost christmas pass Where have I seen that dude? I've seen that guy somewhere before. He dated Ariana Grande and in one of the Kardashians. Like, I don't know what the hell's up with the guy, but he's dated a lot of gorgeous women.
00:59:17
Speaker
i got that big money I don't know. saying so right now like why Why Frank has the nickname Lumpy? He knocked him out as she was walking into.
00:59:31
Speaker
tell you what alber cute I just noticed that the number on the door that hit him at 666. Really? I just noticed it.
00:59:44
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If they show it, you might have to rewind it a bit, yeah way but like right behind your head, look at it. Six, six, six. Yes. all Six, six, six. Marking the beast. Nice. Good catch. I i didn't notice that the first time, i like I haven't seen this movie since the first time I saw it until I watched it. I think it was yesterday.
Real vs. Fake Christmas Trees
01:00:10
Speaker
say yeah Oh, God. it' like to go to a christmas party that's going on I think I watched this, it's been at least over a decade. ah Like I said, I never, when i when I was younger, the first time I saw this movie, I was like, this is a big piece of shit. Like I was like, I know Bill Murray's way funnier. I got a question when it comes to Christmas. Fake tree or real tree? Oh, fake all of you. I don't want to deal with blind needles. Really? fake I'm a fake blind tree. I like real trees.
01:00:42
Speaker
I know, it's too I know the needles, I know the needles are a pain in the ass. And there are ways to help keep that down, like keep moist and all that. But it's the, it's the smell. Like I love the smell of that pine tree. Yeah, dude. I can buy pine salt. Get that smell. and My wife won't let me buy pine salt because she hates the smell. But, but yeah, I'm a fake tree guy. Okay. All right.
01:01:06
Speaker
like i and just I mean, I'm not opposed to a fake tree. I've had fake trees, but ultimately, if I had a choice... I mean, it at least has to be green. yeah I'm not gonna get... Like, my mother-in-law has one that's silver. It drives me insane. Dude, I watched Harold and Kumar holiday fucking movie the other night, and it was to say, yeah, fucking he has that white tree, and his father-in-law played by Danny Trejo. Fucking, like, what the fuck is that shit? Yeah. I agree.
01:01:36
Speaker
trees aren't white yeah yeah okay so him talking about giving her the ginsengives that's actually he thought practically like we don't need much we don't have a lot of money but we'll sharp eyes i've never liked to grow enough together 11 ways or 12 ways to kill me That's a good point. i'm I'm more of a practical gift giver and ah me me and my ex-wife, that was one of our biggest fucking fucking clashes. You know? Right. Like I would prefer, like, that's a good fucking gift. I mean, he gives, she gives her the book on Kama Sutra, which I'm sorry, kind of an insult. What are you talking about? I don't know what I'm fucking doing. No, that's not an insult. That's not saying it doesn't mean.
01:02:26
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i all she doesn like to she lets She likes to mix it up. Yeah, which is kind of cool. She's she's more secure in herself than he is. You think so? Oh, absolutely. It's part of it. That's the reason why he acts. One one of the reasons why he acts the way he does is because of insecurity. I see.
01:02:49
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That line he's like it says here. There's a way place you could touch a woman make her bark like a dog. She starts barking like oh yeah That's a good line. I wonder if she's female. Let's flip her over by now The 70s So this is quote unquote a couple ten years. I Have a very big problem about how she breaks up with him here. I we go on to the scene. Yeah, we go ahead. Go ahead. We're about halfway through. Yes. but We're literally halfway through. I know. Hey. Oh, we are. Nice. Yeah. So far, I want to thank everybody for joining us as far as you have. We're going to take a quick break real quick. I played that one. Let's go with. Oh, real quick. Where can people find them? Go ahead. Where can people find the movie where they can watch it?
01:03:46
Speaker
Oh, so where's it streaming? streaming for free. If you live in the UK for channel or channel four, um you can you can rent it on YouTube, Amazon. And it's on one of the other ones like I don't cry. Yeah, I did say Amazon is fine. Okay. And I think ITV or whatever Apple does, I think are the ones that but it is a holiday season, you're probably gonna spend a couple bucks to rent it. So Yeah. But if you own it on VHS, you can watch it in your VSVCR, which was fine.
01:04:39
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01:04:51
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01:05:08
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Is this the right way? I'll take that as a yes.
01:05:16
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01:05:28
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01:05:45
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Do you need the most trusted battery this holiday? Maybe not.
01:06:01
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your sleigh repossessed, and end up living in the middle of nowhere with the only friend you have left in the entire world. no Or you could just trust Duracell.
01:06:11
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01:07:00
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01:07:31
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Christmas without Kevin just wouldn't be the same. If he didn't return, how would Katie explain?
01:07:43
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Kevin the carrot? What are you doing here?
01:07:59
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That magical moment was finally Christmas, everyone.
01:08:17
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Does Santa Claus himself need the most trusted battery this holiday season? Maybe not. Maybe he could trust any batteries will do.
01:08:49
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Batteries without Christmas are Christmas without batteries is a sad, sad state of affairs and kids. Right? Nothing worse than getting a toy that doesn't come with batteries, I'm just saying. Well, I've noticed when I when i look up ah commercials, especially with like a theme, like it's Christmas, ah like ever since Halloween, it's like Duracell. Mm hmm. So.
01:09:15
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Oh, right. Welcome back. and We are halfway through Scrooge. We're at the scene where he's going through his past. He's at where he worked at. In 1971, he was a frisbee the dog. Frisbee the dog. It's like a kid kid's kid show. It's kind of like, it's their version of Barney. Oh, okay. You see, you know, because it's, you know, stuffed dog.
01:09:43
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The Ghost of Christmas Bath is so excited to be there. You're lucky, dog. He looks familiar. Yeah, that is Dick and Lauren. On that tree, it said Dick and Lauren, whoever Dick and Lauren is.
01:10:09
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uh I would wonder no it's not no know my gosh you know hearing like a little over a week it's fucking 2025 yeah oh wow yeah like of course guess and so this guy like the guy he's supposed to like emulate as a boss really seemed like a really cool guy It's a bit of a womanizer, but yeah nicer, not so stiff-collared. Right. Here's where I have a problem with her. Bill Murray's character has just gotten a once-in-a-lifetime offer to meet with the president of the company
01:10:59
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one And as a best friend, like if they're if they're my best our best, my wife and I's best friend and we're supposed to hang out and and my buddy calls me and say, hey, dude, we can't make it because my boss just gave me a once a lifetime offer to talk about my career and maybe get something bigger. I'm not mad at him for like, fuck our friends. They're our friends. They'll understand. We'll call them. we like well come
01:11:31
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I agree, partially. I mean, the fact that he's dumping his friends for a bit of greediness to it, I don't like. But I understand the fact that, ah right depending on who you are and how you prioritize your life,
01:11:53
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Christmas might not just be on that list. that's okay agree well And But it's not only that. it's like A president of a company literally has, you know, we saw this and in in the movie Mrs. Doubtfire, you know, during his, during, uh, what's her name's birthday. He ends up going to both dinners at once. and you know <unk> so Now the movie isn't really.
01:12:20
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so The movie is kind of in a way saying his decision was a bad decision. I do get it. But I don't think it was a bad decision. And I don't either because it's his own personal decision. I think what it really highlights is the complication and strain that it put on their relationship. right you know regard like It's not even about really her friends their friends, but in that scene it was about them as Colin. I'm just saying she's a shitty girlfriend. If he's like, dude, I got a chance to make it so really never you never have to work again. I wouldn't say she was a shitty girlfriend. I would just say that she looks at life different than him. And this is one of the reasons why they didn't. Yeah, they're opposites. Some people have this idea, it's like, oh, they don't make each other happy. That's bad.
01:13:13
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Well, it's only bad if they try to stick it out. You know? But that's kind of the way I look at it.
01:13:27
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But like, you know, obviously he's gotten to the point where if they if they stayed together and they got married, she doesn't have to work. She didn't do those all the volunteer shit she wants. Mm hmm.
01:13:40
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So, so her life wouldn't have changed. She would just have money to do it and she would help soften him up. you you want use that That's, that's actually not a bad point. Um, because good they'll, and we'll get to the, the, the ghost, the ah future past or whatever. And they do show a clip of her if, if they would have stuck together. No, no, actually no, because she repeats a line. He, he says to her at the homeless shelter.
01:14:09
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Frank's Relationship with Girlfriend
01:14:11
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yeah yeah but but when trying why it she takes it to heart What I'm trying to say is yes, quote unquote, a hypothetical future if they would have stuck together, he would have been the same. She would have turned into like this cruel Cruella de Vil type rich snobby bitch that just, you know,
01:14:31
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like, looks down her nose at- Oh, I see. I see where you're going. Yeah, yeah. Now, I think that is, uh, that is, like, the worst potential, but what you're saying is it could have been the outcome where, yeah, now she has all this money. She's a philanthropist, you know? Right. She donates charity to- She could have, exactly. Yeah, yeah. She could have, she could have run this shelter way better. Yeah. And I think, I think that is a point in the movie that,
01:15:01
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Isn't it's it's not it's not even an option According to the movie makers. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah like there's only one outcome and that she's gonna be a cunt Yes, which which I based on her character. I don't see her becoming that way I don't mean like she's too caring. So ifs any if anything you would have helped soften him up exactly yeah I mean, she probably would have got a little bit more rigid when it comes to where the money should go, more discipline that way in some way, I think. yeah Right. But I think her intention her good intentions will always be a step forward. Agreed.
01:15:43
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01:15:47
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he doesn't want to touch He doesn't want to touch his lips because, you i wouldn i know. no and no um i don't I don't like talking down on on homeless or anything of that. It's not homeless. That's mama for Tilly from the Goonies. I wouldn't I wouldn't drink after that person either just because I don't I don't even drink after my own kids or my family. I agree. I don't bother me. My own kids or my wife or anything. My wife's the same way. She's like, no, you just drank out like woman. I've had you know, yeah body in my mouth. I I'm I'm
01:16:21
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I'm the exact same way, dude. I will sit there and go, I will lick, I will lick the vajayjay, but the moment that same, same person puts their lips on my fucking drink, nuh uh, nope. ah Really? It's weird. I just find that so, I'm like, like, you just ate that woman's ass? Great guy to her class, dude. What's his fucking problem? I don't know, man. I don't know. a lot yeah
01:16:49
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well I don't understand. I don't see, I don't, okay. So I've never, but nice I've never been to homeless shelter. So i neither I've been once, I don't think it was really in the shelters, like the kitchen part. I've, I've, I've helped dish out food before for Thanksgiving. And I don't ever remember booze being allowed in. Yeah. You know? Yeah. But I think, I think this is like,
01:17:16
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it It doesn't look like it's been there very long. You know, this thing it's like it's new. Look in the back and you see the Miller High Life fucking brand on on the side of that box right there. Yeah. But like I said, I think this is a new shelter because, you know, it's it's it's kind of the whole oh no You know, it's it's like she started it up and she said, like, we don't have a fuse. You know, they there's all these problems. I think it's a new shelter. So they haven't been able to really, quote unquote, get the riffraff out, you know, like, OK, like the rules are no alcohol. You know, the turkeys are thing know I think it's just wo um it's under a I don't know if it's new or just underfunded, but well, that's probably it's always underfunded. Yeah. girls
01:18:04
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love that that's fine That's like, that's one thing I have an issue with charity. Like I, I'm not anti-charity. I want to, I don't want anybody to think that, but I think sometimes that charities don't spread the money everywhere it needs to go. It's very selective where the money goes. And I think there's some issues with that, wait one i spen but, you know, well, by law, you only have to give 20% of the charity to the charity.
01:18:32
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I know, I think that's bullshit. Which is kind of bullshit. I think it should be opposite. When you were in the military, remember getting those fucking big, those booklets when it's time to fucking, they ask for charity and it goes through and it tells you how much of the money donated goes to that. Dude, I fucking love that shit. Cause you can sit there and picture like this one, they only get 20% and the other 80% goes in their pockets. And they're like, this one's like 90% goes to the actual charity and 10% goes to like,
01:19:01
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that's the one i was lights on keep the lights on shit like that i think it's this this line right here the guy says hey can i borrow a couple bucks to keep warm my place uh i don't see it sticking with him you know what i mean can always did i just go back too far i think i did i about the turf and oh wow one like well I think he might have double clicked it. let's I think I did because I think it was a really short commercial. Yeah. Well, I, I try to get rid of the commercials. Yeah. No, I get it. Just let it play because I think it literally just is a couple of seconds of
01:19:44
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Yeah, i found out so when I record these movies, I do use our StreamYard account. um Right. i I found out when I do just a record, I can pause the recording in the StreamYard to keep a lot of the commercials out. Right.
01:19:59
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but so all right so pump those Those dancers are showing a lot of ass for a Christmas movie. You know what? But I don't even see how the censor said there was nipples showing. like Yeah, because they're wearing full-on like sports bras. Yeah. Let's be real. I mean, you could see some top cleavage, but that was about it. Yeah, but it's cleavage. what but What was the rating of this movie?
01:20:26
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ah actually i have the um go I have the IMDB up here. buy It is... sleeping on PG-13?
01:20:38
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the Yeah. Okay. It doesn't say on IMDB. See, i when this when this movie, when they first started talking about making this movie, it was presumed it was going to be a rated R. I kind of wish you would have. Right? and I think it would have been really better.
01:20:58
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Because I would love to see a rated- Yeah, it was PG-13, sorry. That's what I thought. Excuse me. That's a pretentious dick move, what this guy does.
01:21:14
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um like like So during the making of this movie, it went through, during the filming, they shot this and it went through the holiday season of 1987 and 88.
01:21:27
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It's been filming during that time. It released in November of the studio. Well, yeah, after usually after shooting, they'd have months of editing and shit. Right. And then going on, you know, which editing out of how how we want to edit this and all that anyway. They were supposed to film during that holiday season by the studios what they wanted to do. The director, apparently, I don't know if this is how true this is.
01:21:54
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decided to fire everybody and then rehire them after the holidays. So not to save money. Yeah, he's like, I'm not screwed. I might be shooting a movie about it. what That's kind of a dick. Okay, so let's talk about Carol Kane. Okay, she right they actually had a professional ballerina for this part. However, she learned to dance and because of the way her character is, they thought it was amazing.
01:22:25
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Yeah, well, they thought it was funny. Yes. well Apparently, she was pissed because they thought it was funny. Because she worked hard at it. And she was pissed when the when the camera guy was laughing. Really? Oh, that's it. Yeah. So she's getting violent. I find her oddly cute in this movie. This right here. That's why she literally ripped his lip. Yep. Oh, and you could tell, too. That looked like a herd dude.
01:22:54
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oh you I find her oddly cute in this, but she takes it. She takes it way too far. So there's a new zombie movie on Netflix right now called ah The Dead Don't Die or some shit like that. And it stars Don Murray. And she's in this in that movie as well. It just came out last week. Oh, cool. And it's funny it was funny to see them on the screen again. But if you haven't seen it, it's actually a pretty funny movie.
01:23:24
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pretty dope. I like that. Dude, she marked his face on where she's gonna hit him. And whack. And that looked like her. Knocked him the fuck out. She she likes it. Yeah.
01:23:42
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me yeah I'm afraid what she would do with that that wand in bed. Yeah. The star first. like Like, well, not only that, like, that's the kind of woman that if you go to bed with, you don't sleep all night because she's gonna kill you in the middle of the night. So she'll find it funny, you know? That's when you call it Uber. Yeah, you're like, you know what, I'm late for anything. She's gone, Uber.
01:24:13
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yeah frosty says no oh and actually only said ho ho didn't have a third ho i just noticet that myself well kidss does this woman have three hoser one too many i guess ah cant ba um it's four kids i think the grandmother yeah Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:24:43
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That's a fireplace fake as fuck, though. He's a smart kid. if i So I think this child represents I don't know if autism is kind of like a tiny Tim. Well, yeah, I mean, analog wise, he's he's the tiny Tim of the right. But I think he's a representation of autism. I don't think so. You don't think and the reason the reason why I say that is childhood trauma.
The Ghost's Silence Explained
01:25:13
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It's childhood trauma because she actually the ghost is going to tell him The reason why he doesn't speak is because he saw his father die Okay, that's definitely true either kill himself or five years ago Yeah, his father was killed five years ago and he saw it his husband has died free you that period when she So he saw his father get killed remember wearing Okay, it's definitely child. I didn't catch this child. Yeah. And I didn't catch it until I watched it yesterday. I was like, Holy shit. That's dark as fuck. Well, is he gonna be okay? Because and the I was thinking autism as well. you can think it's He said he saw his father died five years ago. I that's dark as fuck. Free the South America. I like that poster. That's anti apartheid. Yeah, it was uh, the apartheid. Yeah.
01:26:11
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Yeah, there's the older brother. The apartheid, sorry.
01:26:18
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Did he get hit with the toaster yet? No, I think it's coming up. Oh, dude, I don't know how real that was. I don't know how. She's flicking in the nose.
01:26:31
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Oh, yeah. And this real too. She's like she's fucking actually doing it. It's yeah. Well, it it was all on it was his suggestion too. like So she's got five kids. Five kids. only soft Yeah, because there's four kids there plus the kid that doesn't talk. No. Oh, wait. No, there's four. There's a boy on the floor and three girls and then the kid that didn't talk.
01:26:59
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I didn't see the other boy, but you're right. The other boy was the one that we're wrestling with. Yeah. He just rolled him down some fucking stairs, man. I thought she was going to shove that wand up his ass. I seriously, when I saw it, I was like, Jesus, what's she going to do with that wand, man? You know, so nobody can see him with the dog's teeth. The dog. Yeah. They always apply dogs conceit things.
Actor and Role Insights
01:27:25
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Uh, his brother's wife is, uh, uh, she's actually famous now. She was on, um, uh, I can't remember her voice is so fucking annoying. It's like friend dressers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing, nothing against the name. He was a good show, but friend dresser right your voice sometimes.
01:27:59
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<unk> This is a try and look out which one of the brothers this is. Because that's that's that's actually Bill Murray's brother, both of them. Yeah, both those guys are Bill Myers brothers. What did he get last year?
01:28:20
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i
01:28:22
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Shower curtain. Fucking shower curtain. Like, there's practical and there's just downright fucking shit. Uh, by the way, the woman that plays his secretary, she's been in a lot of shit, dude. She was in Die Hard. She's been 12 years a slave. She was a private practice. Dale Magnolias, the, the secondary one. She was in True Blood. Grey's Anatomy. She's been in a ton of shit, dude.
01:28:50
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yeah I'm pretty sure she was in. I'm a loyal VCR. That is a nowadays. I mean, that's it's not a bad gift, I guess, in 87 or 88. Right? i mean ah to I mean, I don't... went that with I VCR. John Murray. John Murray. That's that's the brother.
01:29:20
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How much was the VCR in 1987? Well, did they show the box? i Probably, but I don't think you they showed the whole thing. How much was the VCR in 1985? There we go. um but but but but but and Well, you've got to put top of line. The third recorder released in 1975 by somebody with a 1400.
01:29:50
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In 1985, more than 15,000 video rental stores were operating. but but bla bla VCRs ranged. you right So from the 80s to 87, it ranged in price from 200 to 400. I guess if you count it for inflation, it would be... Well, not only that, not only that, it's top of the line. So it's about 500 bucks. In 88.
01:30:16
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or $87.88. So firm in now, it's like bucks. And we're from 1000 to 1300 bucks. And now we we just pay for subscriptions. Yeah, which costs way more. Did you see those fucking icicles jiggle? Yeah. Oh my gosh, they do. They jiggle as people walk over. That's messed up.
01:30:43
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They're so fake. They don't even look like they they they look like ooze or chill. Glue gun icicles. This scene right here is sad but over dramatic. I don't understand why it affects him so much. He only met that guy today.
01:31:05
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happy idea to hear her come on man Because by this time his heart's starting to melt. Well, I think also is like that dude asked to borrow two bucks. Mm hmm. So the two bucks he could have gave him could have saved his life. Two bucks in in in the 80s was 80s. It's like two bucks. Now, two I think two bucks in the 80s, you can go to Taco Bell and get full. Oh, yeah. Well, and not only that, he's sitting with a a electric blanket.
01:31:38
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i So we he would have been able to plug it in or something like that by buying an extension cord.
Weather and Electric Blankets
01:31:43
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Speaking of electric blankets, it's going to be an electric blanket weekend here in the back of the woods. Dude, it is frigid. The room I'm in in the house, I mean, it's it's not freezing, but the heat kind of takes a while. So I have to supplement with an electric blanket. I'm going to have to switch to shorts when I go to bed tonight. It's like 400 degrees.
01:32:07
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Oh, man, I always I sleep in. It is 75 degrees outside right now. I fucking hate you. T-shirt shorts weather man. Year round dude. If I can get like 60s last week for a couple days and I was wearing shorts. who So this is the snow that look she gets fucked up again. The sensor gets hit again.
01:32:34
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I told you she get fucked up in this movie. I forgot that part. A part of the set falls on her later on. Oh, does it? Yeah. He picked that lady up to walk himself. It already fell on her. It's when they stopped the hammering on the part of the set. Oh, OK.
01:32:56
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there's dear off and so he's He's kind of losing it. and know that's why say Oh, he's right yeah, you know, he's he's he's been hallucinating all night or according to him. Well, I mean, in the movie, he's actually seeing ghosts in real life. He would actually be seen inside of a padded cell. So boy yeah like if if you told me you were seeing ghosts, I'm like, yeah, let's go see the men with the white coats, boys. Or you just say or you just do ketamine and that's fine too. i Like, yeah, stop smoking weed, dude.
01:33:31
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yeah her ana costity This is, this is the, the in movie character that goes to Christmas. Right. But the one for him, dude, the effects are pretty small. I dig it. i dig but i But they show the face child as a TV. Yeah. And he grew up watching TV. It's kind of like a real cool way to do it. Yeah. It's different.
01:34:01
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And I can and i could see ah as a child watching this, she'd be like, oh my fuck. Oh yeah. it's But Bill Murray doing the triple take where he's like, you know, it was really kind of like, holy shit. it's it's It's like only somebody like Bill Murray could do that and get away with it. It's like if if I was an actor and I was doing it and I opened it three times, like, what is he doing? What a moron, you know? What a moron. You can tell it's the 80 because they're smoking in the room.
01:34:32
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Yeah. very lo red You can smoke anywhere in any building. It didn't
Weekly Show Lineup
01:34:39
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fucking matter. You can, there was a smoking section on airplanes while you're in the air. You could fucking smoke. I love it. I miss it. All right. Before we get on with the movie, I'm wanting to go ahead and before we go into a break, I'm going to go ahead and plug the weekly lineup Mondays, speed away stories and cold blooded conversations with Chris Wally. His real name's Chris, but we all call him Wally because we got too many Chris's. It's a high school joke. Yes. And then ah later on after that, we have men caring for men. There is going to be some changes. Connor's schedule is kind of
01:35:21
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walking at the moment. So we're going to do some pre records and upload them on Friday. Sorry, Monday nights. However, there will be live Mondays. Example this coming Monday will be live will g click in myself click will be hosting and I will be co host guests and we're going to be talking about holiday depression, I believe. ah Tuesday might actually not up for that yeah Well, yeah. ah Tuesdays, we have Glitz House of Music. Again, holiday season, everybody's doing the family things. You might see some reruns or just maybe nothing. Hopefully not. Depends on how lazy we get. but Yeah. I mean, we got holiday shit going on too. I mean, this week's been crazy. I didn't even get a mini review out this week. I have a couple I'm making, but they'll they'll come out soon. and then
01:36:15
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Wednesday we got what the fuck news with ah Jeff and Glick and then Thursdays we have Jeff's garage. I got a couple things I'm working on. Cool, cool. I might do a couple solo shows because like kind of it's like a automotive review of some YouTube channels. Keep telling you so much you can do in a garage that doesn't involve cars. I know but I'm i'm a car nut so.
01:36:44
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You should, you should go on Google and type in crazy shit. People have user garage project wise might even find a porn one. Anyway, moving on. That's my garage. fully my garage That's this whole office dude. Jeff's garage. What you can't see behind the camera is all porn.
01:37:06
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ah what no Oh, Friday nights. What's Friday nights, Jeff? That's this show. fucking not chill. Or you just get to come watch some fucking movies on discord with us and chit chat. Again, we are making some changes. We're going to do more fan film, creative comments so I can show them online. And we're going to open up the panel more so people can come up. I want to get Brian up here. Brian is such a huge Star Wars nerd. Well, he's just a nerd when it comes to stuff like that.
01:37:38
Speaker
And there's a lot of Star Wars stuff out there. I think I've seen some Lord of the Rings fan films. So you'll, you'll get a kick out. of I'm going to be, I'm going to be, I'm going to be sick on that day. I'm telling you now, I can't stand Lord of the Rings. Okay. Well, I'm not a Lord of the Rings guy. I'll be there, but I'm going to, I'm going to shit all over him. I'm calling it now. Which, which fantasy? Oh, it's Harry Potter. You're a Harry Potter. That's what it is.
01:38:04
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Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, I'm in. Okay. game one of the things i was yeah get into it I haven't found any Harry Potter fan made films, but I haven't looked specifically, but I'm sure there's some out there. I'm sure there are.
01:38:17
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And then on Saturdays around 11 o'clock in the morning, uh, to around noon, we have Cassius corner. We're clicking to sun talks, wrestling, uh, picks main events coming up and et cetera. And then of course, later that night we have non-sensical nonsense, the flagship show where we cut up, get rowdy and have some fun, open up the panel to audience and come on up and chit chat and join in on the fun and making fun of Jeff or Glick or myself.
01:38:47
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yeah um Yeah, nobody's immune from being made fun of on this. No, nobody, let's be nobody. And then Sunday we round out the week with unnecessary roughness where Glick and Rick and sometimes Cam. what i think oh my I know there's somebody else. ah Oh my gosh, I can't remember a guy's name. But one of the musicians from Glick House of Music, he comes up as well. yeah Is it Luker?
01:39:14
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No, I thought it was, uh, uh, Oh my gosh. I can't remember the guy's name. I know. We got so much shit going on. So many people in the network. Now it's amazing. Uh, they, yes, they, we run off the weekend. They talk football, which I think there's only like a couple of weeks left. I think Superbowl is coming up and then I don't know what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing after unnecessary roughness when football season, football, football to football.
Social Media and Merchandise
01:39:46
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And you can you can find all our socials at bio dot.link backslash nonsensical network. And you can also click on them in the links in this description. And of course, if you want to support us and wear us onto you bre us on spread us on you. Damn it. That needs to die. I'm killing it. No, no, no. I'm going to use it until the day we die.
01:40:17
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ah yeah non physicalical dash nonsense.myspreadshot.com. Get hats, hoodies, bags. I think there's some tumblers on there. some yeah shit Yeah. And and there's going to be more to come. Nikki's learning more and more and she's, uh, she would put on more and more merch once she gets, uh, settled in and ready to rock. That way you save some money too.
01:40:41
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woo he And all right, so we're getting back to the movie I say we got about 20 minutes left of it. Yeah, we're about to get into a ghost of Christmas future
Bill Murray's Filming Challenges
01:40:55
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Yes, but gold gold ah Bobcat Goldway shows up with a shotgun. Oh Yeah, he goes all fucking Luigi goes all postal. Oh Yeah, I say I see you did there are nice Yes, I'm waiting for the game where you got Luigi with a gun and you got Wario getting shot in the back. I know what I'm doing tonight.
01:41:21
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That sensor is seriously, she's fucked up, dude. who was was that it Was that a button that said hip hop on it? Hold up. It did. it was ah It was like a CD track. was like guess It was
01:41:35
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there eighty eight free Africa free hip hop. I just find it I was at a button or was that like a I don't know. I don't know. It just said hip hop. It's weird. It's a weird flex. All those two TVs. Yeah. Brings back. Brings back the memories. You know what that that TV they have in their living room here. That dude's drinking out of a can. Tap.
01:42:06
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tab look like it's um ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent vodka in a drop of tab I love it I think the vodka he has a stroller it's Russian vodka and this guy pat himself on the back with the with the cats look at the mice
01:42:33
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He had vodka all over his present from his brother. Like he tipped it up and poured off. Well, if you notice when he was pouring, his hands were shaking. He is shaking. And I wonder how much really nice. you bring So Bill Murray, um, in this movie, because it was this solo breakout, he was very nervous about being in front of the camera. He would have anxiety, bad anxiety. He was manic and.
01:43:01
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they would actually like at one point in time, he was like depressed. So the film crew would get together and do things and do silly things to try to make him laugh and put him in a better mood. Okay. So you think that was like a real picture of him and his brother when they were kids? Oh, because they are real brothers in real life. That's possible.
01:43:24
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It wasn't my point I was making, but that's very positive. No, but I get, I get, I get, i get yeah. I'm just saying maybe that was something like, they're like, oh, we can throw this in the fucking bunny whack it. I I have never fucked around with fake snow. So I've never breathed it in or messed with it. Apparently it's like asbestos. But I have been to places that have used snow, like making artificial, not artificial snow, but using water to make real snow. to sub know There was this huge sled hill in Oregon that you would pay eight bucks and you would have to, write eat I mean, it was a long walk or you can take the little little sit down and go up. That is, as a kid, this was the creepiest shit ever, man. And he just misses.
01:44:17
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You see that? Because Bobcat shows up, the ghost is like, oh shit. Dude, watch him reload. He takes forever in a day to reload this shotgun. Hello, rabbit. Hello, rabbit. Hello, little rabbit. Fucking love that rhyme. But watch him. OK, so he's shot both shots. Bill Murray could have literally gone over and attacked this dude. Watch him. He takes forever to reload. But he shot three times, David. He shot three times, too. Hmm.
01:44:53
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Hollywood and they're following wood and their their gun antics, I swear. Yeah. Wife left him. How many days? little baby like It's been like two. That's what I thought. Two, maybe three at the most. And I think there's a stretch. right like look I get it. like
01:45:18
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it's something you would get fired but to leave him just because of I'm calling his wife a cunt he didn't do shit other than talk up like yeah fucking bitch man yeah she's a cunt dude and that wife is never shown in this movie but just by that whole storyline she's a fucking 100% cunt
01:45:43
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like the most unsupportive wife in film history. ah Very much so. I mean, you know. That's a fast closing elevator. I just want to say. Right. And he's wearing cowboy boots. This is true. So this costume is pretty bad fucking ass. I dig it. Dude, I'm telling you, I love that line. It may work with the chicks, but not with me.
01:46:11
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I think this movie I think this movie could be played during Halloween to still agree. But like for Halloween one year, I want to dress up and as a ghost. Because it's a joke of a present of Christmas present. No, Christmas past. Yeah, no, because this is Christmas future. So you look at that screen in his face, that's so fucking like and and I'm sorry.
01:46:40
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worst fucking insane asylum ever that the floor is unleveled and the walls are really so the floor really wasn't unleveled the camera was unleveled he made it seem like he was actually okay but the walls are like a big triangle yeah but he just turned the camera I get that but yeah they did it in the same the same sort of camera angles were used in the original Batman show with Adam West when all the villains they would tilt the camera to make to give it that uh that off feel that unsettling feeling yeah disoriented and that's all that's all this is this look he he was willing to help because he said I know the head of pediatrics he's like I got this fixed we don't have to do this shit
01:47:33
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now so Now, the reason she's like this now, because this is future, is because at the homeless shelter, he said, you need to ditch these fucking people and care about yourself. Scrape em scrape them off the bottom of your shoe or some shit like that. So he assumes that this is an assumption of what she'll be like because of what he said to her. Find that bullshit. At least 20 years of my life. You know what I totally forgot to do?
01:48:03
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play the fucking break. Oh, yeah. Well, let's do that now. Oh, man, I said it all up. I. That's all right. Man, I. We still got time. OK, last break. This all right this one is about an existential frosty, the snowman.
01:48:30
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I suppose it all started with the snow. It was the feist snow of the season, and as any child will tell you, there's a sight and magic to that
01:48:51
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This snowman looks great, Karen. Thanks, but it's missing one last thing. Happy birthday. Oh wow! A talking snowman! That's amazing! Thank you kids so much for bringing me to life today. I can't wait to be best friends with you forever. Hmm... I actually don't like the way that hat looks. Yeah, same. If you say so. I'm just happy to do whatever- Woah. Did I do that? Happy birthday. Weird. Things went all dark there for a min-
01:49:31
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Happy birthday. Gosh, there it was again. I what? I went up the upshits. Frosty's in the house. Who wants to do like 12 whippets then fuck up a Walgreens?
01:49:47
Speaker
You kids sure are fun to play with. Hold on, I've got an idea. Happy birthday. Hap, hap, hap, hap, hap, hap, hap, hap, hap, happy, hap, hap, hap. Happy birthday. You're a genius. Hey kids, I don't know how much more I can take of this. Uh, yeah kids, that's why I think the Packers are gonna take it all the way to the end this year. You know, they just gotta buckle down and hustle when they, uh... This is genius! Come here. Closer.
01:50:25
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hello sir You want to hear the truth? You want to hear the real truth? Everything you learned in school is bullshit. The Earth is flat. NASA has been lying to you for years. We're all living on a disk protected by a 300-foot ice wall. And the government!
01:50:44
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While I do declare children, it is ever so cold out here today. But I just can't wait for Daddy to come home for the war for Christmas. He said he's bringing us more presents than we could ever imagine. What's this? A letter? In my bonnet? From the army? Daddy's not coming back? He got blown to pieces? In the war? Oh no, Daddy! Are there any hats left in there? Just this red one.
01:51:15
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wait
01:51:18
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you crazy so ne and pizzagade was never disproven hillary and the rest of thera snowflakes were in a child sex slavery from the back of a pizza shop and this is something that all of us trump supporters actually believe look it up look at
01:51:39
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Wait, no, not that one!
01:51:44
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Motherfucker! What are you kids doing to me? I don't know who I am. I don't even know what life was until 10 minutes ago and now all I want to do is die. What? Oh wow. Please, please, just take this hat off. I can't do this anymore. Just take off the the hat. Okay, okay. Are you sure you want to do this? Yes.
01:52:16
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Okay. Assisted suicide. Here goes. One. Two. Happy birthday. Three.
01:52:27
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Whoa. That was intense. Karen, I think we've learned a very important lesson here today about the value of life and how it's not up to us to play God. Yeah. Hey, wanna go push Santa off the roof so our dad has to become the new Santa? Yup.
01:52:50
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That's so fucked up.
01:52:57
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That's so fucked up. Go check out, go check out this shit. They're pretty funny. That was a, that was a slow man. They did the Tim Flaw hat on him and he started to, and he's like, wrong to me. Existential dread. Just, just kill me now.
01:53:17
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Jesus. All right, that was almost forgot to play that. Okay, so we got we got a little bit left to move. Let's go ahead and get back into it. All right. Fine, thank God. It's been a nice session. See, that's what she's remembering what he said to her. Straight from off. Save yourself. So she'd be kidding. You know, that's not her if she would have stayed with him. That's her because of what he said to her.
01:53:45
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If you look at her face the way the makeup is, it makes her just look not like, it makes her look ugly. Like, the yeah. like Like, ugly as in, like... Ugly on the outside and the inside. Yes, but the character, not of course the characters, but yeah. No, the actress is a beautiful woman. Great. a Yeah. that's great She instantly becomes a stuck-up cunt as soon as she's got that makeup on.
01:54:14
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Like you can but you believe it. Yeah. Well, the makeup helps betray her ugliness. Right.
01:54:23
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It's a real Kardashian look. Let's be honest. Very posh. Yeah. Very posh. Because I don't think crematoriums actually look that nice wherever they burn the body. No, they don't. But not only that, who the fuck spends that kind of money on a but Casket just to burn it Yeah, they don't my only thought is is You know because it's Bill Martin Murray's character. He's bought that casket. He's planned for it because he's planned out every second of his life then So he's he's like, you know what? I got this, you know in there Put me in a poppers grave. I don't give a shit the moment I die. I don't care about nothing
01:55:13
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I still want to be buried and see. I mean, you can push my body off a cliff. It doesn't matter. I don't care. Exactly. What did I die? Death is death is just the end of life.
01:55:28
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why is we can't do anything damage Xavier is his middle name. Francis Xavier across. No. I. um Oh, shit.
01:55:44
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this scene with him in it. I get it. It's camera tricks but it really looks like Bill Murray's in there because his feet catch fire and the way they show it. i love I'm I'm alive.
01:56:04
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so
01:56:08
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I'm alive. I'm alive. I'm alive. I'm alive. I'm alive. I'm alive. I'm alive. I'm alive. But he's a completely changed individual now. Well, I mean, this is a real life-changing situation, so to speak. Seeing your own death? Yeah. your body You go ahead and see your dead shotgun in your pocket. That's an excellent line.
01:56:38
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Long soul. um one thing High fives and shit like that ain't the thing anymore. Thankful. No, it's not ier took that but So he's coming he's giving dude back to his Twice the original salary and he's giving him his office so because he's pretty much yeah what you gotta take a shower He Because he interrupts the show, it's pretty much guaranteed he's going to get fired. So he he basically gave it a talk to this guy. And i if I was this guy, I would not take my wife back. I wouldn't either. I'm like, you know, you love me a bit. And I'm going to use all my money to get my kid from you. I'm getting so fucking custody because you're a cunt. I wouldn't go back for it.
01:57:34
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i would I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that. she I couldn't. She quit him because. so Yeah, she quit him. She didn't quit the kids though. Because she quit him because. That's even if they have kids. I don't control him. No, because he said she took his little girl. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. and angry yeah yeah She got all banged up.
01:58:02
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yeah that social order the sensor. I'm sensor. yeah um this sensorsor Whatever that means. Like usually I don't think I don't I don't know if that's how live shows are made with a sensor there. I think ah well, I think sensors check everything. So even if this guy did get his job back, he's always seen not going to stay employed there because he just walked in the fucking Yeah, with a shotgun in the booth. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, they're all fucked. Yeah.
01:58:35
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That is a good point. So this end speech in the movie, what the hell just happened? Did you pause it? No, oh I had a little bit of an issue. It'll, it'll. Okay, go ahead. yeah It's like one of the, like, it's what made, it's what made the movie. It's like, this is. Right.
01:58:56
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Okay, so I have to admit when I was watching this yesterday, close to the end of it, I kind of got a little bit choked up, dude. I was like, oh, single tier didn't come out. But I was like, oh, because like, my show out of all movies, I did not think this is the one that was going to choke me up.
01:59:19
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can go Really? Yeah, because I, like said I said, I've hated this movie for a long time because I thought it was a big piece of shit. here guy who oh I, um, I never thought the movie was a piece of shit, but I don't think it's like one of his greatest movies. It's one of his better movies, not one of Billy Lee's greatest movies. No. But this is like when, in his career really, where he's really starting to get his shot.
01:59:46
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Like before this movie, he had taken like three or four years off from acting. He did. So Bill Murray, like I was going to say this earlier, Bill Murray is very, his family and his personal life's a big priority. And he will take, he will take hiatus, his self-appointed hiatus is from making movies just to enjoy. Do you see what his brother did? It's a pioneer. It was a pioneer VCR. Yeah, but he used the VCR to prop the TV on it.
02:00:17
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Like, he didn't even hook it up. It's just not even out of the box. They just set it on top, set the TV on top of it like that. I think his brother's got his character's money. I guess brother's character's got some serious money. I didn't know Pioneer made a VCR. Oh, god, yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to find one.
02:00:43
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oh You can find one on **** eBay for 100 bucks. That now. That now. Yes, definitely not think is eBay wasn't a thing in 87.
02:00:56
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ah but has ah that way Yeah, but you haven't watched MTV. Come on now, right? It's the BH 900 BCR. How much was it? That's what I'm looking the party come on it christmas z i like we're go shamp thanks for two hundred I, um, and to me so you know it's naturally on christmas eve to have fun what would you do in this situation?
1980s VCR Costs
02:01:27
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If you were working on that set and your boss started fucking going off like this, like some mad man. Oh, I was like, fuck it. Let's rock, dude. Coke. It was $899.
02:01:40
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Holy first came out. Oh, no, wait. Nope. Sorry. That was the DVD. Oh, okay. Still, holy shit. I would think the first DVD player I bought, about one of those multi-discs was like 400 bucks. This was like in early 2000s.
02:02:02
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So he, um ah so was wasn't he, isn't he in the process of trying to get his woman back and he does this? I'm sorry. I just think it's kind of, kind of goes. Whoa.
02:02:17
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in 1986 and 87. That VCR went for $1,100. $1,100. How much would that be in today's money? That's what I'm checking. SD something, 600.
02:02:37
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that i left a long time Dude, he just got done kissing the dancer. You don't want to kiss him after that. That's a lot of seconds, yo. it it's like it's like tell me you wouldn't have kissed that dancer she was That's like, like him drinking out of her bottle of Coke and then sharing it with her. That's just disgusting.
02:02:58
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I didn't share the coke with that dancer. She was gorgeous. ah See, if this movie had more more lines of coke, it'd probably be more funny. some So today, if that VCR was, and the you know, was sold today, it'd be three three thousand nine hundred and thirty three dollars and fifty eight cents. In today's month. Man, technology's gotten cheaper. Yeah.
02:03:29
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and more playful too. I mean, but, but at the same time. Dude, I can buy a 32-inch TV nowadays for under a grand. Yeah. I don't, I mean, that's good and that's bad. What's that, uh, planned all, all the lessons or whatever it's called? Yeah. Obsolete. Obsolete. Yeah. They just don't make things like they used to. It's a different type of technology. It's not like industrial area shit where You know you're not expecting an upgraded fucking version, of right? for a couple of hours all year are This is where he's talking about so he's like hey You know if you if you're kind during this time of year it'll become a dick And then you're kind the next day in the next day and next thing you know you're kind every day of the year i such room that's actually are the yeah That's that's ah that's one of those Christmas fantasies
02:04:24
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Oh, 100% because I may be nice today but tomorrow I'll be an asshole because I stub my toes the more and I'm gonna take it out on the **** world. You know, I hear you.
02:04:38
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get What's that? You spend all year being a **** once you get to Christmas, you gotta to put on fake happy. Oh, I do that anyways. for and on um and it' happen a night you believe every time you show you baby spear you just believe all you have to do is believe and you can be happy well he's also saying he's not necessarily saying believe in christmas he's saying believe in kindness happened to you i don't let's and and i get there's there's a difference between being a complete fucking asshole all year and just being a decent person but the thing is iscars and that whole year round
02:05:22
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Yeah, this company is just going to hire a new asshole and start to cost us the next day. um Because that's what happens in the real world. Here it comes. This is where I get choked up. Did I miss something, buddy?
02:05:38
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God bless us, everyone. Is that what made you cry? Is that what made you cry? A little bit. Because I was really paying attention and I was like, aw. Aw. God bless him. Little man spoke.
02:05:52
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her clap. Gotta get that God in there one more time. Rub it in. Rub it in. Yeah, just grind that shit. I do like her freckles. Nice project. She's kind of cute. Oh, yeah, she was a attractive woman. Is she still alive? Oh, yeah. Yeah, she was in the latest Indiana Jones movie, I thought, too. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's right. You just got them saying that.
02:06:21
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i might have to watch that i might watch that tonight it's not bad it's uh... apparently uh... a lot of people are saying it's too woke and shit she was in their animal house too anybody who says anything is too woke does anyone want to know that i mean it's just a stupid thing to say like cancel culture well no but like It's it's called the Great Circle. Oh, no, that's a video game. The Great Circle. What are you? Dial of Destiny. Sorry, it's the Dial of Destiny. Indiana Jones, the Dial of Destiny. Yeah, that's the new one. Okay. When did that come out? um
02:07:09
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Excuse me. 2023. That was last year. Yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah. This song right here wasn't originally ever made to be a Christmas song, but this movie, because they were playing this song a lot during this time, it came out that came out during holiday season, you got so much radio play over time, it just became a Christmas song. Yeah. Well, it and Bill Murray breaks the fourth wall here. And and I'm curious on how many people in the theater actually sang along? Nobody.
02:07:49
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And if, well, I'll take that back. The only people who sang during the movie, the ones that got popcorn thrown out. Yeah. See, because he's like, come on everybody out there. Just the guys. Just sang in theater. He's the one that did the- He did all the music, yeah. He's a music composer. Which I guess the original guy they had the to do the movie, a music composer ended up quitting because he didn't like He didn't like the way it was going or something.
Composer Change and Music Style
02:08:21
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Anyway, he ended up um ah hooking up with Tim Burton doing his some of his movies as a musical composer. His a his is the dark darkness he was looking for in the music he didn't match the movie he felt. so Oh, I see. Yeah. Well, that was scrooged.
02:08:43
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yeah So like I said, when it comes from me, i when I was a kid, I did not, I i didn't see this as a good move. however when i went And tonight being the exception because we were, I was barely paying attention because I just watched it yesterday. But when I watched it yesterday, I put it on, you know, I put it on my phone and I'm sitting here watching while I'm working. And I was like, you know, it gets to the end and I was like, oh, I got not choked up where I sat here and cried for 20 minutes.
02:09:14
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But I was like, doug yeah that's fucking sweet as hell. You know, the kids spoke. And so my rating on this, I'm going to give it a higher rating than I would have. It's not it's not a great movie. It's it's not my favorite movie by any means. So um I think it's this one. Yeah. So I'm going to go a three and a half. OK.
02:09:41
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All right. Like I said, it's not my favorite Bill Murray movie. It's not, you know, when it comes to Bill Murray movies, I think this is one of his worst. ah Because it.
02:10:01
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I think I have a bias because I hated it so much as a kid. No, it's hard to get over that old bias, you know what I mean? Three and a half, three and a half. um I'm a Bill Murray fan, so he's got points for that. and I like his style of acting.
02:10:20
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I like a lot of his older stuff. However, I'm i'm just not big on Christmas movies. Especially this one. Never been a big fan of A Christmas Carol. I do like the fact that this was more of a twisted retelling. I think they should have went for a full R rating. I think they could have been much better. I think it should have been more of an adult movie, more or less than a ah family movie. i think i agree they would have it would have been a hundred percent different movie Yeah, I think that's how it felt for me because they took Charles Dickens and already quote unquote family story and they twisted it to make it darker and more adultish but they didn't actually. So you're just saying they didn't go far enough.
02:11:09
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No, no. So, but with that dancers topless, you wanted to see that. I get it. No, it's not even about seeing the nipples. I just get tired of seeing them. But PG 13 movies all the time. by as I agree. I agree. I, I, I, I skip over. Uh, anything not, you know, like they don't curse in this movie at all. No, you're in New York. If nobody curses in New York, you're not in fucking New York. Let's be honest.
02:11:39
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So I'm, I'm giving it three pot leaves, three gold pot leaves. So yeah. So, uh, this is not our worst movie we've ever written. This is ours. Uh, we, I Jack drastic world Exodus is our worst. Uh, for you, this is your second worst. Uh, I'm sure there's going to be a lot worse coming up because we're gonna get heavy in the fan films and some of them are just atrocious. But that's part of the fun. Yeah, that's part of the fun of this. And you know, and everybody's entitled to their own opinion. I just, this movie, it's, it's not top of the line, Bill Murray. And I agree. I think they should have gone, they should have gone way darker. I do too. Like, like,
02:12:37
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at least a couple of F-bombs would have made it better. Yeah, I will. I think there was a lot of missed opportunities for some even darker comedy. But with that being said, um I do want to bring up the movie lingo because I'm just now remembering to do it. Today's movie lingo is theme now and it's And it's, is the inferred stance taken on the central topic or message of the story? The theme of the movie Scrooge is that overbearing bosses suck ass. That's not the whole overarching. No, but, but yeah, I get it.
Theme of 'Scrooged': The Impact of Greed
02:13:19
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Greed is bad. I don't believe that theory. Greed is bad. being I think greed is bad, but.
02:13:29
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Well, the caveat to that is lack of greed is just law. No, I don't think so. yeah to have You have to have some, you have to have some greed. You have to be and yeah television my dear like being overly greedy. I think you're confusing motivation with greed, being motivated, being greedy. I mean, you can be, greed can be a motivator, but So can curiosity and just wanting to do something. So, I mean, not necessarily. Well, what I'm saying is like, like
02:14:06
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like, I don't know how to explain it, but I just don't think be like being overly greedy, like everything for me and fuck everybody else. That's bad. But greed, greed itself is, is, is.
02:14:23
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bad because you're usually involves taking away from a less fortunate.
02:14:31
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I don't see a front sorry scraped that <unk> your problem. them off bottom. Yeah, you know he he might have cried anthony in this movie, but I don't think he picked up what it was stepping on. I agree. I agree. All right.
02:14:53
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And Jeff, that brings this episode to a close. Do you have any yeah you have any last last words for the audience out there? We'll see you at the movies, and hopefully a better one. And bring your old fucking popcorn. Good night, guys.
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