Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
Glick's House of Music: Harley Olivia
14 Plays5 days ago
Tonight welcomes your new favorite neruospicy Rockstar Harley Olivia into Glick's House of Music!! Comedy get to know her and hear some kickass music @harleyolivia
Recommended
Transcript
Introduction and Network Promotion
00:00:05
Speaker
by may potential
00:00:12
Speaker
all five
00:00:18
Speaker
The show starts
00:00:47
Speaker
Musicians gather spirits.
00:01:16
Speaker
No hangouts, no time to spare.
00:02:19
Speaker
Music a vibrant call for one and all to give their all in this sanctuary where dreams ignite music's power.
Musical Community and Venues
00:02:47
Speaker
Rockin' interviews, stories shared.
00:03:03
Speaker
Music unites on HelloGround.
Anxieties at Music Events
00:03:11
Speaker
House of music, a place to be for every heart, wild and free.
00:03:38
Speaker
Here in this room, don't really know what to say Been round people all day, kinda feel out of place Wishing that I could go back home to my son Far away from this place, just a party of one Watching the walls, my eyes play tricks on my brain The people all slink around, in and out of their frames can't pretend I'm not feeling it I can't pretend it's not my fault again
00:04:59
Speaker
and naive as what's in part of my plan
00:05:19
Speaker
Quiet if deafening I can't deny this is deafening can't deny I'm a love controller come again Closed in my eyes I'm haunted by the rocks in my own head
00:05:48
Speaker
Taking my nails and my skin to release it Please just let me free
00:06:17
Speaker
Don't leave it this way! Close in my eyes, I'm haunted by the ghost in own head Nothing I do can stop me unraveling head out of the dead Digging my nails on the skin to release it, please just let me know
00:07:08
Speaker
Hell yeah!
Welcoming Guests and Music Preferences
00:07:09
Speaker
That's how you kick off show, ladies ladies and gentlemen. oh That's a good fucking song and cool-ass video. Welcome to Glick's House of Music.
00:07:19
Speaker
Happy Tuesday. Hopefully you guys are having a good week so far. If you're not already, go ahead and check us out right here on the Nonsensical Network. We've got all kinds of shows for you. We are everywhere. Facebook, Instagram, X, and TikTok shows live Monday through Sunday on Facebook, YouTube, Twitch. And don't forget, you can listen anytime, anyplace, wherever you listen to podcasts at, all at the Nonsensical Network, or simply go to bio.like slash Nonsensical Network. You guys know the drill.
00:07:45
Speaker
Give us a follow. Give us a like. Give us a share if so kind. Don't forget to tell your granny. She's going to love us, especially on Saturdays. But without enough about me and enough about us, we're here for a reason tonight.
00:07:58
Speaker
We've got a young lady joining us. Miss Harley Olivia. Hi. And the Lion and Tiger guy, not the one who got his head bit off.
00:08:09
Speaker
there yeah cigarette What's going on, guys? Welcome, welcome. Thank you. Appreciate y'all being here. Yeah. um
00:08:19
Speaker
Love the song, by the way. It was hard to pick a song. Because I usually pick one or two songs. i And I was like, what do I want to do? Obviously, i was going to Haunted. I think that was my favorite one.
00:08:31
Speaker
ah but But then there was digging that I really like. I was listening to you today at the gym, and you're not ready. I was like, well, which one do want to do? you've got some great covers on your YouTube channel as well.
00:08:47
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, home Haunted is definitely the heavier of the bunch. We've got some new heavy ones coming up. Yeah, like ah before doing my solo stuff, um I was in metal and rock bands. So it's kind of like a throwback to my old ways, I guess.
00:09:04
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, I like everything. So it's really hard to stick in one genre. So some of it's pop rocky, some it's rock, some alt rock, some it's heavier.
00:09:15
Speaker
Works for me too. Cause I produce everything. Yeah. they Work on. So yeah, it really the works. We both can't be tied down. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. makes your life easy.
00:09:26
Speaker
but No, you got it. You guys got a great sound.
Marketing Challenges and Authenticity
00:09:29
Speaker
Uh, and, and you've got a fucking voice for days. ja it's um I am a bit of a sucker for rocker chicks. So you got that going for you too. So ah like the, the way y'all, the way you guys sing and, and, and,
00:09:45
Speaker
project your voice and stuff like that is is is insane because you got you can do so much where a lot of like the rock guys they have their their own distinct sound like if Nickelback comes on you know Chad Kroger you know Scott Weiland you know these guys because their voice is just their voice sometimes you change it up and it's like is that Harley or is that somebody else I think the hardest thing that that i think the hardest thing um
00:10:16
Speaker
in marketing myself has been niching down or trying to be one thing because um even look at someone like Lady Gaga, like she ah she had to be consistent with her sound for a long time before she could start being herself and be crazy and wear a meat dress and all that stuff. All the crazy.
00:10:36
Speaker
Yeah, but she couldn couldn't come up the gate like that because she needed to have something that was sort of memorable um to get those initial fans. So, I mean, um Even though I would love to just be creative and wacky all the time, there sometimes I have to like be a little bit more realistic and be like, okay, like am i what am i what am I doing here?
00:10:54
Speaker
i can i like to make rules and then I can break them. So yeah, that's kind of kind of what we're doing. Yeah. i think I think one of the things that I think is cool about you is that you can kind of laugh at yourself. And I say this because my partner and I, him and I were talking today about Because he was like, oh, man, i he he went and listened to your music today. And he was man, she's really good.
00:11:17
Speaker
ah But your Instagram video that have pinned where you fell off stage. A lot of people are not going to put an embarrassing moment like that up there. And then just, you know, you might put it up, but you're going to hide it and let it just kind of.
00:11:30
Speaker
get you know get buried and everything but you threw it right up there and pinned it right to the top again that adds to your level of cool because you're like yeah fuck things happen yeah i mean i got back up i'm actually embarrassed i didn't even notice you fell off well you were on the stage and you were like oh where'd you go she I guess you loved. Yeah, and honestly, like usually for our shows, like we're not on big festival stages. like we're in ah like Or if we are on a festival stage, it's usually like a safe distance to get to the ground.
00:12:00
Speaker
And this one, it was starting to get late, so like the grass was all dewy. And usually I'd jump off the stage at some point during our live set, and I was like sussing it out while I was on the stage. like Every song, I was like, can I make it? i don't know.
00:12:17
Speaker
kids like But then I remembered the band before us, I saw the bass player on the ground. So I'm like, he must've jumped. It's probably fine. And then I jumped and then I hit the wet grass and I just went like legs up.
00:12:30
Speaker
Yeah, it was funny. He's probably walked off. Yeah, he's a bass player. He probably walked off. Definitely walked off.
00:12:41
Speaker
I didn't get injured. I'm happy with that. Yeah, you did. That's a plus, and any and you got a great and you got a great clip of it. So I mean, you know, so. So a lot of times you get something like that and you completely miss it. And actually, I've got a couple videos of me falling or like walking into the umbrella.
00:12:58
Speaker
I actually in a video of me walking into the umbrella at the studio here. I'm calling to Siegfried and then I like walk straight into it. And I was actually approached by like a ah video company and they wanted to buy it from me. Yeah.
00:13:15
Speaker
They're like, we need two licenses. We will pay you. And I was like, no, it's my video. You got to get a cut of that money, you know? but you always well yeah got get cut of that you got to get a cut of that money you know I know. Nothing's for free. yeah Yeah. How much, how much is that going for these days? hundred bucks. Like video. And then I would post it again. yeah like It's not worth it. but folks Yeah. I mean, you get you get royalties. I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of, uh, actors and and musicians out there that get that check every month from, uh, from royalties and they, they're happy to see it.
00:13:51
Speaker
You know, that's true.
00:13:55
Speaker
No, but, um, i can I can kind of tell by your sound, but I'm curious to know from you personally, um as far as music influences go, who who who are some of your artists that you that you really enjoy, or maybe you look up to kind of push you in the direction that you go to?
00:14:13
Speaker
um So I feel like the artists that we sound like are very different than the artists that we are really influenced by. oh big time so it's, it's always a fun question to answer because people are usually like, really?
00:14:26
Speaker
Um, but, uh, I mean, I was an emo kid. in high school. So, I mean, I was obsessed with My Chemical Romance. I was obsessed with Marilyn Manson back in the day.
00:14:39
Speaker
um But I also love Lady Gaga. I love, currently I love Mother Mother. ah They're a really great Canadian band. um Silver Sun Pickups, I think, are some of the best ah songwriters of our generation. Awesome.
00:14:53
Speaker
I'm on a skin. ah And then I also, I'm like a theater kid. So I love kind of like theatrical, um like rent. rent That's great.
00:15:04
Speaker
I loved rent. I wanted to be Mimi Marquez so bad. So yeah, I mean, that's my, ah influences and then Siegfried's got his own. He's ah i'm a little more well-versed and maybe a little older. I've been around for little while, but I absolutely love the Carpenters and that's not even a joke. Yeah. money All time favorite bands. And, but I like, you know, Sunday day real estate and and knapsack and, and dashboard back in the day and for those things forever and face to face and green day. And yeah.
00:15:37
Speaker
you know Oh, and John Tucker says, Lee Aaron. I get that all the time. you get that much I get so many people coming to me at shows being like, Lee Aaron? But none of it's intentional by any means. no but I listened to Lee Aaron back in the day. Now that I get that that association, I've obviously listened to her music and um I see it.
00:15:54
Speaker
we we love that kind I mean, I do love
00:16:00
Speaker
Lizzie Hale, Hailstorm and everything too. um but I grew up as an 80s kid like with like top 40 radio, like Casey Kasem. And then having older siblings, I grew up listening to like like ah hair metal that they loved.
00:16:15
Speaker
oh You know, Twisted Sister. They never grew out of it. Well, no, i had a mullet at one point too. Some of us don't. like yeah i'm I'm with you. I still got long hair. I just had to have a different style to to keep it long.
00:16:28
Speaker
Business and the This is in the front of the party in the back for a little while when I was into, you know, a hair metal in the eight late 80s. But then Nirvana and all that kind of took over. We all kind of changed our look a little bit. back But yeah. but yeah and And then, of course, producing records for all those years like.
00:16:47
Speaker
i'm going on 30 30 plus years at this point so there's lots of music has come through yeah and lots of music i've been a part of which is super super cool and if i wasn't so well versed at a young age i don't think i mean it's probably why i took that role on you know yeah yeah more music cards we we soak up everything that we do yeah
Musical Influences and Personal Impact
00:17:07
Speaker
I'm with you guys. thank I say it all the time. I'm i'm a big old music slut.
00:17:11
Speaker
I love it all. think I listen to some, sometimes I'm listening to something, somebody will look at me and go, you like that? I'm like, yeah, let me guess it.
00:17:22
Speaker
Like, you said Paramore. I will jam out to some Paramore. Yeah. I don't care. i like it. would Yeah, we really liked the early Caramore albums. I mean, I still, um every album of theirs has like really great songs on though. It does, it does.
00:17:39
Speaker
I think Riot is one of my favorite records though. Yeah, same. I think it's probably, yeah, is it's probably going to go down as probably one of my all-time. It might be, in my opinion, one of their best ones, but, you know, I still enjoy the music and still listen to it.
00:17:51
Speaker
Even like Avril Lavigne. Yeah, I know. I probably shouldn't like Avril Lavigne, but. No, Avril Lavigne. Travis Barker was pretty cool, actually. Yeah. I like that. And of course he drums on everything.
00:18:03
Speaker
i mean, i'm not rushing out to buy an Avril Lavigne album or anything anytime soon or like going to see her. and Well, I probably would go see her in concert. i was with her yeah Yeah. I, upon who all was there, I think I probably would actually go see her concert. She's, she's fun.
00:18:17
Speaker
she but She looks like she puts on a fun show. sound I agree. yeah i'm saying to you what in her mid forty s not early forty And she's aging Yeah, yeah she amazing she really is. She it's wild to see her now compared to when she was younger.
00:18:32
Speaker
ain't mad at her. Good on her. Do your thing. But um yeah i kind yeah, I listened to, I grew up like you, 80s, 90s. I grew up listening to all that stuff. And, you know, I still listen to it because it's hard to find.
00:18:48
Speaker
It's hard to find really good music today. You got to. I dive into the local and the up-and-coming bands. That's all I listen to anymore. don't listen to mainstream radio anymore.
00:18:58
Speaker
ah ah That's awesome. That's also really nice about Spotify and playlists because if you're listening to something and then there's like a recommended afterwards, even when I listen to like a Carpenter's playlist and it goes on while I'm in the shop soldering and then all of a sudden all this other weird 70s and eighty shit starts popping up and I'm like, don't remember the song or maybe I don't know it. When you reach the end of the Carpenter's playlist,
00:19:19
Speaker
Yeah, richpi it's quite a repertoire. but a dollars done away And then I do actually at the end of it. And then like David Foster and shit starts coming on. Oh my God.
00:19:30
Speaker
And I'm like, ah kind of i am all the I reached the end of the top on my browser. Isn't that wild? Yeah, I didn't think that was the top.
00:19:40
Speaker
It's awful. It's awful. It's 99? I don't know. It was like you have you've reached the end. You've exceeded the limit. don't know all those tabs. I don't understand. I don't know. My computer shuts down and then I'm free.
00:19:56
Speaker
Insane. I can see that I can john said that annually reminds you I can see that I can absolutely see that. um Yeah, my brains like that I have 101 tabs open in my brain at one point in time and i've exceeded the limit by about forty so yes yes i actually cleaned up my desktop today because i knew you were going to do this as you're doing i want my and please my computer he keeps saying well word memory disck is full and it keeps threatening to like not
00:20:32
Speaker
be able to run and i was like i need it to do this but yeah every every few shows i get that warning on on my on my laptop because i have so much music and and and old shows that I, you know, and download the audio and stuff like that. i'm like,
00:20:47
Speaker
You know, what really reminds me about laptops right now and is they're cranking out all these these Macs with really, really small drives as base systems, and you can't change the drive size.
00:20:59
Speaker
So if you didn't decide from the get-go that you wanted a two-terabyte, well, then you're shit out of luck. And a two-terabyte Mac drive in a laptop would cost you like an extra $1,500 for two grand. Yeah, you got to go get an next and an exterior. Somebody asked me that a couple weeks at lunch. what what do you What's your...
00:21:16
Speaker
And it's not on your exterior. And I'm like, what's an exterior drive? but They're like, oh, my God. handy simply Traveling and you want just your laptop and you forget you drive it on. You're like, oh, fuck, it's on the extra drive.
00:21:28
Speaker
Yeah. You know, so it's because shit like I had bigger drives like 10 years ago on my laptop than anything I would have now. It's stupid. And the files are bigger than ever. Anyway, I'm going to. right What grinds your gears? I told you guys before we started, we just go where the conversation goes at the end of the day. I'll try to get this train back on the tracks, and if I don't, fuck it.
Coping with ADHD and Anxiety
00:21:58
Speaker
It's normal for me. I like the attempt of John Tucker's spelling evanescence. I still can't spell it, so...
00:22:04
Speaker
Good job. and i think i think that yeah i think I think there's an A in there somewhere. Yeah, I just typed in Amy Lee. 11TZ. Yeah, I just typed Amy Lee. I'm not trying to spell it. Amy Lee's band.
00:22:15
Speaker
did that on purpose so people would know her. No. So...
00:22:22
Speaker
yeah's a brandndy lee'span me but just on po but people will know her he no so i I'm curious about a few things here.
00:22:36
Speaker
oh First and foremost, I've been seeing this a lot on, on on and we'll say entertainers, Neuro Spicy. I actually did Google this.
00:22:49
Speaker
I was like, what is Neuro Spicy? So I know what Neuro Divergent is, but I didn't know like, are we do like what's going on here?
00:23:00
Speaker
So for you being Neuro Spicy, Are you ADHD like? Yeah. Um, so I got diagnosed with ADHD oh last year, I think.
00:23:14
Speaker
But, uh, yeah. And I mean, I've got anxiety and, um, when my life is not, um like stable, like when I was working as a flight attendant, and I was like, at my breaking point, I was having like really awful OCD as well.
00:23:32
Speaker
um And that was so now I kind of have learned. um And I was trying to treat the symptoms of these things. um And then I realized, oh, no, I need to like my brain needs a little bit extra help.
00:23:45
Speaker
And so when I want to treat the symptoms of it, I am now trying to, you know, like eat healthy, exercise, um take care of my brain and get enough sleep, um take breaks from my phone, um try not to burn myself out every week um and try to take care of myself so that my symptoms aren't as bad.
00:24:05
Speaker
um And it's been helping so far. Yeah. But yeah, definitely ADHD is the main thing. um And I kind of, but I get a lot of questions about the neuro spicy term. And I think I love it because it's like, it's a beacon for people who know what it means.
00:24:20
Speaker
um And for everyone else, they're kind of like, well, they either think it's something to do with OnlyFans or they, are or, or they're like, because said like, what is it? Yeah.
00:24:32
Speaker
and I definitely didn't think it was anything to do with OnlyFans because I've seen it on a few and I'm like, now that I know it, I like i could i think I'm going to Neuro Spicy Podcast. I just think it's like, oh.
00:24:43
Speaker
Yeah, I'm ADHD and I got anxiety. right now you guys can't see it. but My legs are going 100 miles an hour. I actually got my hand on it because i anxiety ah and all that all that all that fun stuff.
00:24:55
Speaker
But that's where i I spend a lot of time at the gym. And Lord knows I don't sleep because it's like, oh, I'm tired. Come back here, lay down and turn turn everything off and put my phone down. And then my brain's like, hey, guess what?
00:25:06
Speaker
Let's think about all the things that we shouldn't be thinking about right now and stay awake and stare at a ceiling. I know. That's the worst. Sleeping is so hard. Like, people will sleep instantly. And I'm like. Yeah, I fall asleep instantly. But then I wake up at like 2 a.m. and I like go back to work.
00:25:22
Speaker
yeah hour or two and the cat comes and follows me and it's probably you know yeah literally falling asleep out of sheer exhaustion I can do that I can fall asleep but then I'm awake and then then i'm so you once I fall asleep um but that I think as I get older my OCD is starting to get worse where like certain things like numbers have to be even for me you know
00:25:51
Speaker
and So I'm going to add that to my bio. Neuro Spicy Podcast. Even when I walk on a sidewalk, I have to actually walk on all the all the cracks and things. I do the opposite.
00:26:03
Speaker
and you have You want to break your mother's back. No, no, no. it that's It's not even about the saying. It's literally about or. I'm going to love your mom. yeah The truth comes out. The truth comes out. and There's always something I'm like either avoiding or not avoiding.
00:26:18
Speaker
when i When I walk, it's weird too. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. And I play little games or like trace shit with your eyeballs, like trace the ribs or. laptop or like, yeah, I have a little like, uh, what do they call those? so there's with OCD, there's obsessions and then there's like the rituals that you do to sort of like quality obsession.
00:26:37
Speaker
Um, yeah. So when I was at my like breaking point at the airline and I was like not sleeping. Um, so, and that's, that's actually, I realized is one of the worst things for ADHD is like, if like I was probably pulling an all nighter or being up for at least 18 hours, like six days of the month, seven days of the month, because I'd be on a night flight, not sleeping at all, get there, not and want to make the most of my layover in 24 hours, and then go see things, then come back exhausted, um and then work the flight back, which would probably be like 10 hours, and then get home and just be so out of sorts and feel so sick.
00:27:14
Speaker
And then I would be like, um yeah, like tapping the light switch three times, or else everyone I know is going to die. Like, it was so... awful. um just for and And I don't know, don't know who to talk to about that, because it's such like a weird thing to say.
00:27:31
Speaker
but yeah no, exactly. i feel you because like, I don't do like the the light, like I don't, but what'll get me is if I forget, if I lock the door or not and I doze off, I'll start to have nightmares that somebody's like broke. So I've got, so there's some nights where I'll check and make sure I've locked the door two or three times before I can come back and and fall asleep. And it's just like,
00:27:58
Speaker
You just do the strangest thing to me. I know I locked the door. You know how many times we have left the studio and been like halfway, or maybe not halfway, but a ways away, and we're like, did we lock the door? Is the cat okay? Is the cat in? Or is the cat get out? Is the cat okay?
00:28:13
Speaker
Did you see the cat before we left? And it's just like, we gotta drive back. gotta drive back. And actually, do that when we went to NAMM in Anaheim for the the convention there,
00:28:26
Speaker
And the night before our flight, our flight was at like 6 AM. So we got a hotel closer to the airport the night before we flew out and we had a camera set up to watch the cat and he was not showing up on it at all.
00:28:41
Speaker
How has he managed to avoid every camera? and wall So we got like our neighbor to go over and check on him. He's fine. He's a ninja. He's just a ninja. <unk>s been he's He's a ninja, exactly. Yeah,
00:28:58
Speaker
yeah but your mind definitely gets the best of you in those situations, and you always think the worst.
Life and Energy in a Band
00:29:04
Speaker
And actually being being in this band, like being in this partnership, I think was a huge part of me sort of ah managing the NeuroSpicy stuff because um i don't know if you're familiar with the term body doubling. Yeah. So for ADHD,
00:29:18
Speaker
yeah so for eighty It's something that you can do that sort of helps you stay on track if you've got ADHD. And basically, the the point is, is that people with ADHD tend to kind of be empathetic to other people. And so if the other person is working or doing a job, you're more likely to do a job, too.
00:29:38
Speaker
And so Siegfried is a workaholic. He's always doing stuff. So when he's working, I'm like, oh, I should be working. And so i tend to be more productive and stay on track just because he. So what you're saying is life.
00:29:51
Speaker
why sure how me You're causing her a Well, he works. That makes sense. Well, as I told you guys, you know, when we were getting started, I was doing 14 things at once.
00:30:06
Speaker
Because I do. I have those squirrel moments. and or so Oh, shiny object. you know so i have to I'm always doing The guys here, my right-hand man, Blaze, he's constantly like, take a break.
00:30:20
Speaker
Take a break. You got too much on your plate. take I'm like, I can't. Because if I stop, then my mind starts racing. And I'm thinking of all the different things. And then I want to go do everything at once.
00:30:33
Speaker
That's probably your autonomic nervous system telling you that you need to kind of sit and think and be with your thoughts and calm yourself down. So, I mean, maybe you should have some days where you are disconnected from the tasks at hand and sort of like slow your breathing down and meditate. i like I do that. I do that on Sundays. I unplug on Sundays. I unplug. I don't worry. I do one show on Sundays, but after that,
00:30:59
Speaker
I unplug. I try to stay off my phone. i just, I don't, even like if it's like, I got to clean my house. I force myself to just relax, find some terrible movies to watch, some terrible horror movies to watch, play some video games, whatever.
00:31:14
Speaker
But yeah, I do. I force myself to shut off one day a week. Also, when I go to the gym, I put my earbuds in and it's like the one time where and everything just shuts off in my brain. And when I'm at the gym and I listen to music and do what I do,
00:31:29
Speaker
And then it's like, soon as I walk out the door, oh yeah, that reminds me, I've got, yeah but but I don't do doctors. So i've I've looked up like, you know, like the exercise and hey different things you can eat, you know, as far as foods and stuff go.
00:31:46
Speaker
I'm trying to exercise this as well for our live shows, because I'm jumping up and down on stage a lot for, and singing at the same time. screaming, all that stuff. So I need to exercise not only for my brain health, but for like to actually be able get through our set without dying. Speaking of that, speaking speaking of that, your stage presence, because a lot of your, a lot of your music videos and a lot of your videos are you guys live.
00:32:16
Speaker
Yeah. And you're a hundred miles an hour girl. Yeah. um more yeah have you is that Have you always been like that? Even like when you were a flight attendant, have you always just kind of been vulnerable at that?
00:32:31
Speaker
I mean, honestly, the flight attendant version of me was a shell of myself. I was quiet. I was like hiding in the back, wanting to just read my book and just be miserable.
00:32:42
Speaker
So like now that I'm actually, you know, like living the life and that I wanted to live and I made the choice to go for my dreams and I'm doing it all, i'm like 125 million miles an hour. Like, let's go for it.
00:32:55
Speaker
So, um and and the bands that I loved were always like really energetic on stage. Same. um Another great Canadian band that I love is Sumo Psycho, Sky Sweetenum.
00:33:06
Speaker
ah She's just like so fun to watch on stage. And and Matt, do you? Matt's awesome. Yeah, Matt is great. She like rides his shoulders on their during their shows. They're great. Yeah. ah like I remember in my old band seeing them live for the first time. And that was the moment for me where I was like the penny dropped and I was like, Oh, I can do that.
00:33:26
Speaker
Like I could like meet that person on stage. Okay. Like it was really fun to to watch them and I get really inspired by their show. So, um, yeah, like why not?
00:33:37
Speaker
No, that's great because I mean, that's part of the experience when you go see a, when you go see a live show,
Live Music Experiences and Stage Presence
00:33:41
Speaker
you know? Yeah. The music can sound great. I'll tell you uh, talking Aaron Lewis, um, Your music can sound great, but if you stand on stage and you hold a microphone and you do this for an hour, it sucks.
00:33:53
Speaker
Stained? Aaron Lewis, you're talking about here? ah Yeah, I seen him ah twice, years ago. and he stood on and And now, and now like a couple years ago, I've seen him ah i've seen him again, and he was a totally different guy.
00:34:07
Speaker
But now his story's out there, and you also realize like he was mentally wrecked back in the day when Stained first came out and the record labels had him just destroyed. So he was, he was a miserable person.
00:34:18
Speaker
Now he's like doing his own thing and having fun. So it was like two different versions. When I seen him, I seen him about five or six years ago and he was having a good time. He was i like, is that the same guy? you know but Well, and it's funny. Cause like, so I am a vocal coach as well. i have a bunch of singing and screaming students. And um even though i love to coach singers on technique and performance, like,
00:34:44
Speaker
um the most important thing to me is the the connection from on stage. And I would rather watch someone who's like really connected and emotional than someone who sings with perfect technique.
00:34:55
Speaker
um But why not have both? i mean if you get If you can have both, have both. But I mean, at the same time, don't mind if i go like and don't mind if I go to a live show and the singer is running around, dancing, doing whatever, having a good time and in their voice cracks or Yeah.
00:35:12
Speaker
It's a little off key or they miss a word or something. Like, i and okay. I want to hear perfection. is running around lego maniac Yeah. Pink is like, think is insane. that's just people Yeah. Pink is stomach to like prepare for shows. Maybe that's what you need to do. I'll stand. you stay
00:35:30
Speaker
no you don't want that no yeah no like if i want to hear the perfect everything in a key and and all that i'll buy the album i've probably already bought the album you know what i mean so it has to be a little bit different yeah and actually like uh i was like sometimes for fun we'll like put on ah a live concert of like a festival or something and just like watch bands wasnt And we watched Moniskin. I think they did like, it was a Glastonbury or something.
00:36:03
Speaker
and the damien lead singer my favorite part of that whole show is he like goes up to the audience and he's like being all like like hamming it up and then he forgets the words and he just goes like and then it's so endearing because it's it's him so human and present in the moment and he's just you can see he's a little embarrassed and honestly i've watched that clip like 100 million times so that made me as the performer be like oh like i don't have to be perfect i can people actually want to see you be real and human on stage so that takes the pressure off a little bit too totally yeah as as yeah as fans that adds to the experience yeah because you're like holy shit because you see this person uh on music videos or hear them on the radio or you know whatever and sometimes people forget that you guys are normal human beings as well so we get to see that real side of you and it's just like oh she's just like me
00:36:58
Speaker
but I wouldn't accept a teleprompter on stage at this point. We've seen a couple of those that are like shields. It's like glass. It's clear. well and And in the music world, a lot of – I saw Tom Petty years ago, and he had – the monitor in front of him was actually not a monitor. It was a teleprompter.
00:37:17
Speaker
ah And so he had two monitors around him because we were side stage. And you know thought, that's pretty clever. you know Someone's controlling that. and Yeah. But then you can make Tom Petty say anything. Here's the thing.
00:37:30
Speaker
When you've got a massive repertoire of songs, I get it. yeah People don't want to hear you forget lyrics to like half the songs. because then Yeah. yeah if you're hi if you're If you're doing one of the like one of the hits and and you screw up the lyrics, it's like, come on, man. This is what I'm here to see. yeah yeah So I get it at that level if you're like, you know.
00:37:53
Speaker
But I think for right now it's the London. Yeah. I'm actually surprised. like I think it's because we've been rehearsing so much as of late that I actually get most of the backup vocals.
00:38:04
Speaker
but For the longest time, I was like, I would eat mix them up from verse to verse. and You know, but now it's it's like muscle memory though, right? like Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know, and rehearsing, of course, is very important. We could always rehearse more. Yeah, we probably should.
00:38:17
Speaker
Yeah, we're going to have to be able to get walk. A show's coming up in June. Well, in the summertime, the your show's kind of become your rehearsals. They are. In June, we have a show every single weekend, so it's going to be like...
00:38:30
Speaker
A rehearsal. But we should rehearse before that first one. Oh, we definitely need to. wing it. Just wing it. Fuck it. Whatever happens. I'm talking in the ninety s like We would rehearse maybe once a week, tops. and We'd go through the set once, and then we'd like, yeah, good. If it was a new song, we might work on it. But otherwise, we'd be like, yeah, cool. We're ready to go. like i don't know. I mean, I wasn't really one to sit there and hammer out like...
00:38:56
Speaker
Let's work on that verse 50 times over and over. Well, I think there's like, I have to rehearse my songs so that for my words and like knowing the lyrics and and knowing where to breathe. And i basically coach myself through my own music. Like I coach my students.
00:39:10
Speaker
um So I'm making sure that I'm what I'm bringing to the table for our rehearsal is my best. And then at least then for our actual band rehearsal,
00:39:22
Speaker
it's it's not me trying to work out parts it's yeah it's us like trying to just like gel together and have fun and see what what could happen in the live show and if siegfried messes up a guitar part then we do it again look get your get some shit together man come on you usually it's me for forgetting words yeah i remember uh seeing all time low a bunch of years ago and I don't think any of those guys play anything in that band. They might, but I'm not sure.
00:39:52
Speaker
Well, they're too busy, like catching panties that are being thrown at them. and but You know, not really doing much of anything else. Okay. All right. But I thought, you know what?
00:40:02
Speaker
Who cares? It's fun to watch. Like, yeah, I didn't really care. ah Yeah. My, a live show is as much of a, of a visual performance as it is Sonic. So whatever, I mean, to me to be honest, maybe that's the 80s, like top 40 hair metal dude coming out of me too, because I like produce things.
00:40:23
Speaker
And, but I also like really raw, grungy punk rock stuff too. So, yeah but I mean, in the end, when I'm watching a band, I don't care what it is, if they're if they're trying to be the sex pistols and they're spitting on the audience, or if they're catching underwear and it's all backing tracks, am I entertained?
00:40:40
Speaker
Yeah. I suppose that's all that matters in the end.
Longevity in Music Careers
00:40:43
Speaker
That I go home and sing their songs and humming them and have a good time. Yeah. Yeah. yeah I mean, that's... I think... Yeah, like I said, I think ultimately when you go to a live show, and this has always been for me, like, I'm not the biggest Kiss fan in the world.
00:40:59
Speaker
I like some of their music. I also... I'm also... but Nice. Of course she's wearing a Kiss shirt. Of course she's wearing a Kiss shirt. I was... so i like dude i like disco kiss and i like no makeup kiss i don't know a weird like that i like so i like but i like some of their music but not the biggest fan but i got to see them several years ago when they did their psycho circus tour oh my god did these guys put on a show there's lasers there's explosions there's monsters there's there's just so i'm like
00:41:31
Speaker
Are they even singing at this point? There's so much going on. And my buddy that I went with, he was a Camich Kiss fan. I saw him in 2001 when it was kind of like that whole thing too. And it was all fire and explosions. And I wasn't close enough to really tell if it was real, but didn't give a shit. I like, fuck, this is awesome.
00:41:49
Speaker
Yeah, like, my buddy's like, aren't you glad you came? I was like, when he was like, hey, man, I got this extra ticket. You want to go see Kiss? i was like, I can think of like a thousand other things I'd rather do than go see Kiss. But it's a once in long time shot. At this point in time, you you might only ever see the avatars.
00:42:06
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. like or like a tribute because that's what they're planning on doing right so yeah know well supposedly I guess supposedly I guess they they quote unquote they didn't sell the rice but the band is still going to be on tour because they have new guys that are going to be filling in while the other guys stay retired while Jean and the guys stay retired but kiss is still gonna be doing a thing out in Vegas or something like traveling fair or something is yeah so weird
00:42:40
Speaker
Oh, whatever. just Just another way for Gene to make money because you know that dude's going to sell anything and everything. you're out And I get it. I get not wanting to give anything up like that. Like, i don't know if you saw, like, Black Flag last week came out with, like, the new lineup, and it's, like, the original dude from Black Flag and, like, three children.
00:42:56
Speaker
They're literally, like, teenage or it looks like three teenagers. And I'm like, is that is that even Black Flag anymore? Like, at this point? but I don't want to give it up.
00:43:08
Speaker
Somebody else is doing – I think – I think like one of the last remaining Beach Boys is doing that. and are there somebody two of them Then you yeah have the Jason Bonham experience or something like that. And it's just like, it's it's not the band.
00:43:24
Speaker
It's just you and a bunch of other people. People don't want to let go. And and maybe it is their livelihood. Maybe financially it's all they have in their life and their in their 70s or whatever the fuck. you know so yeah yeah it's it's Until we get to that stage of our lives...
00:43:41
Speaker
there's We can't really have an
Songwriting Influenced by Personal Stories
00:43:42
Speaker
opinion. Yeah, we'll report back. we We'll report back. We're going to be the Harley-Livvy experience, and it'll be me and a cat. I'll have you back on the show when you would you've reached that point.
00:43:58
Speaker
You won't even be in the bed anymore. It'll just be me. yeah I'll be off somewhere, and you'll be just you and bunch of cats. Me and cats. but We're cat people in case you didn't know. Yeah, we love cats.
00:44:12
Speaker
I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. Actually, my blog even says I'm a cat lady. There, crazy cat lady. we we We all have to have goals. Yeah, I mean, pets in general, I think are pretty awesome. animal All animals are pretty awesome. actually watched this TikTok yesterday about this cat dying, and I came up upstairs. I was bawling my eyes out. was like, I'm not ready for him to go.
00:44:35
Speaker
And I started crying. I can't deal with this right now.
00:44:40
Speaker
yes i would Yes, I would love you if you're an earthworm. Go away. I don't know why you're crying. Just go away. like god yeah i i I don't normally do that, but yesterday that got me.
00:44:53
Speaker
The TikTok got me. It happens. It happens sometimes. You know, people yeah around Christmas time, the the Hallmark, and there's a grocery store chain down South Publix, and they're notorious for getting people in their fields because they're... commercial I'm like,
00:45:11
Speaker
just sell your damn grocery stop it. So that's you like send me to the therapist after i just needed some apples. And Sarah McLachlan and her damn dog I will remember. Is that commercialized? I don't know.
00:45:31
Speaker
It's at any cost. That's a great song for licensing. Yes. Oh my gosh. She's set for life, that song. Oh my God. Oh yeah. Alzheimer's.
00:45:44
Speaker
Oh yeah. Oh God. will. Will you? Will you remember? just Sad ballot. We're going to sad ballot that anybody could really relate to and then we'll be fucking millionaires.
00:45:59
Speaker
That's all you got to do. Yeah. you yeah you know, and cue in the cue in the the the the hair bands you need a ah power ballad man yeah yeah yeah totally yeah honestly i would love a ballad yeah you've said that a lot i've been saying this on probably every podcast i need a ballad because agree pop like but bouncy like upbeat songs and i'm like no more tears is a ballad it really is but it's it's there's fucking strings in the bridge but it's a belty ballad Yeah, well, it's some more. Like, listen to Celine Dion. Listen to Whitney Houston. The but the ballad's kind of... I need something a little softer to breathe.
00:46:37
Speaker
I hate to keep bringing her up, but I have an essence. I mean, she's got some... you need You need something like that. i agree. I'd actually love, and this is just me as a fan. I would love to hear it. I agree. You need a ballad.
00:46:49
Speaker
Okay, so we'll do a really cool, like, ninety s shoegazy, like, really slow, like, slow dive. you know the man's slow dive? Remember those guys? Like, something just really cool and chill, and you'll just be, like, kind of meander your vocal little bit.
00:47:02
Speaker
That'll be the ballad. It just baptist doesn't do it for me, though. All right. Aidy Stiles guitarist already offering his services for the ballet. Oh, that's Jonathan. Hi, Jonathan.
00:47:13
Speaker
There you go. Oh, Wildman! Fucking Wildman! There you John Tucker. Close my eyes forever. Ballad style. Wildman! Oh, fuck. Here we go again with the Wildman. He's just this crazy fan that follows us on every live stream. Nice. Nice.
00:47:32
Speaker
Hey, you know what? Nothing wrong with that we all need that. We all need those crazy fans. oh
00:47:41
Speaker
He's looking at you, wild man. Wild man. as well As long as you follow the host, that's all we say. 100%. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, he's like stalking us. Yeah, if you're going to stalk him, you've got to follow the host of the podcast.
00:47:55
Speaker
That's not creepy or anything. I should clarify, he's a friend. yeah well that's that's not creepy or anything i clariy and nava He's, yes, he was actually one of my students when I was teaching at a recording college last year. And actually he's one of my vocal students. He's become a dear friend. i actually do coach him.
00:48:14
Speaker
A dear friend and great colleague. Yeah, he's awesome. Are you guys reading that or are you ah you in danger? Blink twice if you're in danger. We like him, he's nice. Is Jonathan back there in that dark room behind you? It's your old you, we'll be hosting.
00:48:30
Speaker
I sounded but so the very prepared, guys. but was yeah He's really nice.
00:48:39
Speaker
He's a great guy. oh he's right He's great. and His family's awesome.
00:48:48
Speaker
There ain't nothing wrong with that. There ain't nothing wrong with that. Speaking of writing songs and whatnot, I know, Harley, you you you said you guys write together. Mm-hmm. do So when you're when you're writing a song, um do you guys write from experience? Because i know you do some, you you kind of focus a lot on mental health and stuff like that, which is great because Lord knows we've we've all been through some shit and and and music is therapy at the end of the day because I'm one of those guys that will be feeling some sort of way and decide to go jump in my car and go for a drive and put the windows down and
00:49:29
Speaker
crank the music up at 100 miles an
Creative Process and Collaboration
00:49:31
Speaker
hour. But when you guys get to writing, do you guys write from personal experiences or is it more about trying to write something that's relatable?
00:49:41
Speaker
It has to be about personal experience for me because that's the only way that I can kind of um tap into whatever it is I'm writing about. um I mean, of course, there are I've heard of like different writing exercises. and then maybe in the past with old bands, that like maybe I'd watch a movie or um read like a newspaper clipping of something that spoke to me. And then I'd do like a writing exercise of trying write it from that perspective. like There's so many things you can do where you can still connect to it.
00:50:13
Speaker
but this I want to do more of that, personally. Yeah. yeah And I mean, even look at Billy Talent, like River Below, like I doubt that Ben is actually wanting to blow everybody up. I'm sure he was inspired by a story and that's why he was able to write as like the lunatic. But um but no, I think so far I've mostly been writing from personal experience.
00:50:32
Speaker
um because I had so much to say, um especially after working a job for 10 years that I was feeling the, probably the, like the worst I've felt in my mental health in a while.
00:50:45
Speaker
um I needed to sort of get that out on paper. um And then before I started this band as well, like, um lots of toxic relationships thrown in there. So um I always joke with Siegfried. I'm like, I'm sorry, we're writing another song about my But yeah, so we, we need to like, ah but that's the thing, right? Like you, you write what do you know, and and um I never want to write something that's going to like,
00:51:19
Speaker
hurt anybody or that anybody's going to know what I'm saying, but for me, it's therapeutic. Okay. He wants to hurt people. would like to do that. that's i feel i feel that. I've been there before. And then I remember I'm a podcast host and I have a microphone so I can say whatever the fuck I want, whenever I want. And if you don't like it don't listen so and if you think it's about you it's probably about you so yeah and honestly like there's probably been times where maybe someone thought it was about them and it wasn't so yeah um
00:51:52
Speaker
Yeah, it's definitely therapeutic. I've been there before too. Yeah, but super therapeutic. And one my favorite, when people ask me about songwriting and how they can get started, is my favorite thing to do is when I'm really emotional, just say I'm mad about something or hurt or I don't know, I saw TikTok and it made me cry.
00:52:12
Speaker
Whatever I'm feeling in that moment, I just like open the notes app on my phone and I just start writing exactly the thoughts that are coming into my brain. I write them all down so that they're real and genuine and they're exactly what I'm feeling in the moment. They're not fake. They're totally, totally real.
00:52:27
Speaker
And then um forget about it. And then when I write a song, I open up my notes app and I'll see like these, these like true feelings and then whatever chord patterns or whatever things are going with the way that Siegfried's writing the music,
00:52:44
Speaker
maybe one of those little things that i wrote clicks and I'm like, ah that makes me feel that. And then it kind of all comes together. I tried that too once and then all I got was like toilet paper.
00:52:55
Speaker
know So how's the new
00:53:04
Speaker
how's the how's the new how's the new cat song coming along since and watch the tiktok video that made you cry oh god We do have a song about dogs coming out at some point. We have a joke song that we wrote and we're like, we have to release it because it's going to go viral. It's so good. i go Yes, but we're not singing it because it's going to be, it's not going to be perfect. and mean, you need it to be perfect when it releases.
00:53:31
Speaker
I mean, Glick's House of Music is the home of exclusives. I get all kinds of exclusives. yeah look I actually, this is how ADHD I am. I have the lyrics written on a cardboard box from Amazon because that's when the whole emotion hit me or whatever. Where is this cardboard box? I have this?
00:53:51
Speaker
I took a picture of it. And now it's in my app on my phone. So I have to Google cardboard box in order to find it. Because I'm but it's all because and Because I'm old, I actually have a notebook here that's just full of shit. and it's Things you'll never look at again.
00:54:10
Speaker
it's It's random show ideas or yeah shit that pops. like I'll be doing a show and I'm like, oh, I don't want to forget this. I have said a million times, this notebook, I have somebody in charge of when I die, this notebook or any other notebooks like it need to be burned immediately.
00:54:25
Speaker
Not because there's anything bad in them, but if anybody ever reads them or looks at them, they're going to think I was an absolute lunatic because it's just. No wonder he died. Yeah. Well, it's surprising he made it this long because it's just shorthand. Only I understand it. You know, like.
00:54:42
Speaker
Honestly, you I have like probably 200 notebooks and they're all half used and then they get discarded. um But I also used to write write down my dreams every morning. oh And let me tell you, my mom told me one time she like read through it. She was like, what's going on with you? I don't know.
00:55:00
Speaker
She told me she saw it. She opened it one She thought it was a diary. And she was like, what happened? And then she was like, oh. and then and then i realize And then I think I wrote like a T-Rex or something home. And she was like, oh, it's a dream diary. yeah took a two nice one lie it was not i have ah I have a journal that is buried deep within the depths where nobody will ever know or find it because if anybody ever looks at it, because sometimes I'm just going through shit and I just got to, whatever's in my head, I just got to write it down, you know, because I can't, I can't, I can't come out and say everything I want to say. So I just have to sometimes write shit, out and write shit down. And I hope
00:55:34
Speaker
Actually, I think I've lost it at this point, which is a good thing and a bad thing. I'll find it again. Yeah. When I'm on my deathbed, I'm going to be like, I need, I need wheeled over to this, you know, this shelf over here real quick. and Yeah. You're like, you can't move. Cause now you don't know where it is in the house. Yeah.
00:55:53
Speaker
But yeah, no, I got this notebook. And like I said, it looks like the ramblings of a madman, but it's just those shorthand notes. So I don't forget stuff or ideas or, Whatever, you know, like you said, and like ah it's it's not good by any means. They're like, ooh, we let him out in society? Okay. I think that would make a killer song.
00:56:15
Speaker
What, my notebook? Yeah. or I see what you're doing.
Balancing Style with New Influences
00:56:20
Speaker
I see what you're doing. Yeah, it might be an album at this point. yeah Speaking of speaking of John asking the chat and Chatters box, you guys that are watching, you guys are welcome to ask questions.
00:56:31
Speaker
You know, I'll throw them up here. And if they want to answer them, they can. If they don't, well, then they don't have to. But he had said, would you guys ever consider recording a song written by somebody else?
00:56:41
Speaker
I mean, we've done like covers, um so we have done that. um But like does he mean... um Like someone else writes it for us? like ah like like Like an original for you guys? Yeah,
00:56:56
Speaker
I mean, it would have to um yeah it would have to be kind of a genuine connection to the song and the material, for sure. But yeah, I'm not opposed to it.
00:57:09
Speaker
ah Yeah, it hasn't really presented itself in any way. I know there's a lot of artists that, you know, I mean, you go back to like Elvis days, like the producer wasn't involved with actually getting music for Elvis, you know, because Elvis didn't write the music, you know, but then you've got the Beatles, which is the exact opposite of that. Yeah. So, but think I think, I mean, we are pretty staunch writers in our own right.
00:57:31
Speaker
So I don't know if that would be something we even like actively, i think ah writing would be something that we're probably more interested in, especially with others who maybe have a little bit of a profile.
00:57:44
Speaker
You know what i mean? Like, yeah like actually like seek out someone who's doing well, you know, in the rock or the metal in our, our industry and in our nation who we like. Yeah.
00:57:54
Speaker
And have like a co-writing session. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Totally. Yeah. I, I came from a collaborative theater background. So um we always said like, um if you are, if if you're not open to other people, then you're essentially saying that you think you're the smartest person in the room.
00:58:15
Speaker
And I don't think either of us think that. We definitely are cool. If we're going collab, we're going to collab. So um I'm down for that. yeah I think the biggest reason we don't at this point is, A, we're still pretty new. Yeah, we're still a new organization.
00:58:30
Speaker
I think it comes down to finances and it comes down to rights. and we're And we're still enjoying like writing with each other. yeah and We haven't felt the need to reach out. Yeah, it hasn't presented itself yet. But we we do have some artists in mind that we want to talk to yeah um that we be really want.
00:58:46
Speaker
So stay tuned for this. So what they're saying is they're the smartest people in the room and they don't need you fuckers to write songs you. They're Canadian. They're polite. I'm American. I'm an asshole. You're welcome, John.
00:59:04
Speaker
and well you know and you You don't have to spill any beans. This is more of like ah a bucket list or a wish list thing for you. are there Are there any songwriters or or artists out there that you guys would love to have the opportunity as you as you grow and get bigger? Because the end day, it's going to happen. you guys are gonna You guys are going to blow up at some point.
00:59:21
Speaker
um I'd write with Matt Morgan from 1975. That'd be pretty fucking legendary. You've written with everyone at this point. What else would I write with I'd love to write with like, you know, I've done a couple of records with face to face.
00:59:38
Speaker
So I would say Trevor Keith from face to face and Scott Shifflett. I think ah any of the guys in the band actually, um who else? like There's a songwriter that I love and I just need to remember his name.
00:59:49
Speaker
What is his name? You keep talking and then I'll just put him on the spot but all the spot. Yeah. It's, it's, it's an odd thing these days. And I almost feel like, uh,
01:00:03
Speaker
Is it gonna get to the point where we could actually use AI to co-write? Where you say, you know, give me some inspiration in the vein of, and then you hear a couple of patterns or chords, progressions, and then you go, oh, fuck, now that's gonna take me into, like, that could be just another tool future. Like a prompt, mean. Yeah, like, not as like, a write me a song, just like it, but like, you know, help me get inside that person's head. Because once all of our data can be scraped, and- sort of a graph that we can just say hey and let's do a little bit of you know i want to sound a little bit like avril and i want to you know let's throw some some billy joe armstrong in there and like make it i mean guess i don't know i i don't like writing has okay i found my person tell me so justin tranter would love to write a song with him
01:00:52
Speaker
he Justin Tranter, he's like... It's the Darkness dude, isn't it? No, no, he's from... semi Well, he was in a band called Semi-Precious Weapons, but he writes with Lady Gaga. He wrote... I who you're talking about. He wrote that... He co-wrote the Honey, Are You Coming? Which is one of my favorite. he loves that song. I love that song. Justin Tranter, he's such a good songwriter. um But then when it comes to artists and stuff, like...
01:01:21
Speaker
I would love to write something uh, ah I mean, Mother Mother would be really fun um because I think the lead singer, he writes um about his own sort of mental health experiences as well. And I think that's why I really connect with what he writes.
01:01:35
Speaker
um I see myself in a lot of the things that he speaks about in his song. So it would be interesting to um work with but him, with Ryan. But I'm kind of afraid because you hold some of these people up on so on a bit of a pedestal and then I'd be afraid to like, like meet them and do it and then realize you know maybe it wasn't as good as you expected know what i mean yeah and it kind of ruins the experience a little you know yeah i don't know yeah i think i'd be afraid yeah i mean there there is that little twinge when you meet your heroes and you're like
01:02:13
Speaker
oh God, is this going to be everything I dreamed of? But is something like a management team or a record label. They would, you know, they would put you in touch with, you know, especially if you're on a label that you're actually with a bunch of bands that you respect, you know, then the, or even a management team that you're on a bunch of artists that you really respect.
Managing Mental Health Through Music
01:02:32
Speaker
The likelihood of ah actually having those meetings and working with those people would be greater and then at least your manager your label would say you know what you guys would pair really well together you know so you'd have someone else that at least would have a bit of a outside perspective yeah on what would kind of work better that's true yeah i think
01:02:55
Speaker
does that answer your question don't know there's a lot of done I get that. you know that but There's that old saying, you know you never want to meet your heroes. And then, like you know like you guys said, you you expect this you go into it almost expecting one type of experience. But if you get something totally different, then you're just like, oh, that's disappointing.
01:03:16
Speaker
I don't want it to ruin it. Yeah. We'd have to be very careful if we chose. Yeah. you know I would almost rather just do it with someone who I didn't really know that well. And then you both sort of like blow up because it did well. or Or even if they were already really, really famous but I didn't really know who they were or something. I'd be like, cool. i don't There's nothing like personal that I would have to lose if I'm like, that guy's a fucking douche. yeah yeah like a And then you have to promote the song and you hate them. Yeah, I don't know.
01:03:47
Speaker
We write songs together quite unique. and We've got a ah number of In the past, I've always been in bands where we just wrote the music first and then the lyrics and the vocal melody would generally come after. But you do the exact opposite.
01:04:00
Speaker
Yeah, I hear like little melodies in my head and then I sort of might meditate on one sentence that I think could be a hook. And then um the more I sort of like go into...
01:04:14
Speaker
thinking about what the song is about and kind of playing around with that melody either on a walk or in the shower or in the car um or on the treadmill. That's where a lot of these songs get written to.
01:04:25
Speaker
I usually am like running and then I'm like, okay, pause, pause, pause, pause.
01:04:33
Speaker
I come up with these little voicemails. And then once I flesh them out and they've got a verse and a chorus, then i bring Siegfried in and I say, here's the song. Like you've generally got a key.
01:04:45
Speaker
you already have like a good good idea of a structure you already got a good idea of a tempo yeah and then i usually figure out what what chords work over it yep and you either say you know to punk rock or to emo or to this or to that yeah change it up until until i'm happy with what i've come up with and then you're also happy with what i've come up with yeah and then we just kind of continue building from there it's And it's fun because like on one of our last songs, we needed like this cool, we really wanted like a cool riffy guitar part that went into the chorus.
01:05:16
Speaker
And Siegfried as a joke was like, oh, well, you you love like, I can't remember the band. I think it might've been Mother Mother or something, but he's like, you love Mother Mother. You probably want something like this. And he did this cool chord structure or like a brown, brown, brown. I just did a fucked up thing that I thought was the stupidest thing. And I was like, just love it. was like, oh, yeah.
01:05:38
Speaker
but It totally does remind me of them. We're doing it. And he was like, yeah an apartment um One of my favorite parts of the song. Trouble.
01:05:48
Speaker
oh if What up, Arliss? How you doing, brother? Go to hell, Rick.
01:05:56
Speaker
Oh, we got a question. Oh, what's the question? that What do you think is harder? Finding lyrics to a melody that you love or vice versa?
01:06:07
Speaker
that to me is the hardest. What is but like putting lyrics afterwards? Cause my problem with that is when I do come up with a song and I have a structure and then I do ah a guide vocal for myself, I'm going through this right now with the song that I'm working on.
01:06:22
Speaker
And I, come up with a way that I like that feels melody wise and phonetically. i get so married to it, like demo-itis that I'd want to write a lyric that's also then going to flow and fit into the little. See, that's my favorite part. Can't stand it. I love that part. There's something about, well, I studied like phonetics and in college and theater and stuff. So and there are certain,
01:06:48
Speaker
um vowel sounds that lend themselves out to things that ring out. There are certain consonants that feel. But then you've a lyric that fits. I know, but that's the fun. That's like a puzzle to me. is a Good. I like that part. Then I'm going to Give me some words. Yeah, yeah.
01:07:07
Speaker
I will. Good. That's what we're going to do. Yeah, no, I actually, I would say that's my favorite part. And maybe the me finding out the melody is maybe fun part. Oh, the melody is my favorite. Melody is super easy.
01:07:18
Speaker
The melody is super easy. The chords come up with like fucking 8 million melodies. yeah Making lyrics work and phonetically fit and and sound cool and roll off the tongue nicely. yeah That's the hard yeah
01:07:32
Speaker
hard Two halves of a brain. hey you know you you guys You guys work together like i like my guy Blaze and I work together. may we we go we just we Literally, something will sound great in our head and then we'll message each other and go, hey man,
01:07:47
Speaker
you know show ideas or stuff like that like hey man what do you think sometimes it's and i won't speak for him but sometimes i'll start once i start to hear the shit come out of my mouth and it's out of my head i'm like wow that sounds really fucking dumb and then there's times where blaze is like yeah that's dumb dude or other times there's like actually you might think it's dumb but it's a good idea you know you know you gotta have that you gotta have that other half of the brain where you guys can feed off of each other and bounce off of each other. Sounds like you guys have that perfectly between each other. I thought he said beat off. He did. like yeah he did say you should
01:08:20
Speaker
but so was like He didn't say beat off. He said feed off each other for sure. You should beat off. I mean, you should beat off at least two or three times a day. It's good. It's good for you. I can't say I have never. it's It's good. It's good for your mental health.
01:08:32
Speaker
You know, it's''s it's good for energy. It'll also help you take a nap if you want to take a nap in your wrestling. So just saying. have two people talking at the same time. Shut but I know. I know. i We all do it. Don't be shy.
01:08:45
Speaker
Don't be shy. We all do it.
01:08:50
Speaker
the Feed off. Feed off. Please don't hurt. Please don't hurt. Please don't hurt. I'm not beating off.
01:09:00
Speaker
Yeah. If you guys are beating off on each other, I mean. Maybe it's a good writing exercise. It's totally fine. It might be a good writing exercise for you guys. It's a two-way street there. my God.
01:09:11
Speaker
Yes. Welcome to the Nonsensical Network, Harley. God. on my god be all yes ah welcome to the nonsensible network harley
01:09:27
Speaker
um rick's on a roll here uh doing the music she's finding oh there go hey there's your let's take on the melody comes easy it's the words i you know i think i might i might be i might be overstepping but i know for me you know a lot of ideas i think it's that adhd break or adhd break man when you said the lyrics are easy because I mean, doing this random shit is easy for me. Some people are like, we don't know how you do it. like And it's like, some people are like, how do you do a two hour show?
01:10:02
Speaker
Well, fucking easy. Two hour show is a walk in the park. You should see me on Saturday nights when we do six hours. They're like, well, how do you do six hours? I'm like, exactly yeah, it's a lot, but it's not that hard because it's just, oh, squirrel. Hey, let's talk about this. Yeah.
01:10:19
Speaker
I used to teach three hour classes and and they, even though it was, you know, relatively worked out in terms of the content, they, it would go by fast. It would, three hours would go by pretty quick.
01:10:30
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it's funny. Even my, like, um I remember my parents came to watch me, well watch us play a a show and I'm up there running around screaming, singing, we're like dancing and ah going crazy. And then um I'm still a new driver.
01:10:49
Speaker
And so my mom was like, oh, do you want to drive home? And I was like, no, I can't. She's like, how can you do that? And then have like a panic attack when you go sit in front in the front seat of the car. And I'm like,
01:11:03
Speaker
It's just our brains are wired differently. You're getting better. Yeah, i'm I can go to the store now. You've driven home. that and my yeah that that shit's real. I used to, I do this.
01:11:15
Speaker
And Arliss, who was in here earlier, he's the lead singer of the Southern Outlaws band. I MCed a show for them. I was a mess. i was i don't I don't like doing publics. And they're like, how do you do your podcast? And then you're afraid to speak in public.
01:11:30
Speaker
And it's just like, I don't know because I can see them looking at me when I'm doing this. The only people that are there are my guests. If I'm doing an interview or my guys that, you know, I hang out with weekly, they're my friends, but yeah. And man, my social anxiety used to kick my ass.
01:11:48
Speaker
Like I would drive around for three hours and not like be able to go to McDonald's. and I'm like, fuck I'm just going to go home and eat peanut butter and jelly sandwich. cause it seems it's it's It's crazy how like different things will trigger
A Flight Attendant's Musical Journey
01:12:01
Speaker
stuff. so and i think like but with the ADHD brain, um it's an interest based nervous system. So the things that we love and that we like and really feed us are the things that we get really good at because our our brain is like, Ooh, I can get some dopamine from that, but I'm not getting dopamine from learning to check my mirrors and turn left at the intersection. I'm terrified because it's like a hundred times in order to feel confident because it doesn't stick the same way that, um,
01:12:33
Speaker
i don't know learning my lyrics for a show does so um yeah it's uh good times yeah it's fun yay for crazy brains we're awesome the scariest performance i ever gave was singing my sister's first dance song at her wedding uh like full on like panic because, and this was before um I started doing the solo stuff and I was singing in a metal band at the time. And ah so I was used to like singing in sort of shitty venues with bad sound. And if, if my voice was tired, I could just like throw a scream on there and they can't really hear what I'm saying anyway. So I forget the lyrics, who cares? Like add more beer. Like it was all that kind of vibe. And then when I got out there in front of,
01:13:23
Speaker
in my entire friends and family in one room and had to sing to an acoustic guitar and be like beautiful. I was like, wow, this is really vulnerable and really hateful.
01:13:35
Speaker
And I can't throw a scream on this. So um it's one of the things that actually perpetuated me wanting to do the type of music that we're doing now, i really wanted to push myself vocally as a singer and not hide behind my crutch, which was sort of like a more aggressive singing and see if I could really get to a point where i wasn't just doing the screaming or just doing the aggressive stuff because it was the only thing I felt comfortable with. I wanted it to always be the choice that I was making.
01:14:03
Speaker
And so I think when we came right out the gate with the first Harley Olivia songs, they were very, I'd say they were more poppier. And now, so, I mean, so we we kind of went all the way the other way and now we're kind of doing more in the middle. Now it's more like rock. quiet yourself but when You were still learning yourself.
01:14:22
Speaker
Yeah. i was still trying to figure out what I wanted, but it was really a test to see how far I could push myself as well. as well I mean, as far as the wedding goes, I mean, you could have really shocked some people if you throwing a couple of screams in there randomly. but yeah I mean, i think I think that's part of the musical journey. And and and and and at least me, I was going ask you, you know, you're doing the flight attendant thing and you're just like, but it sounded like you you hated it. It almost sounded like you were borderline miserable. like i'm just It had its moment. I did it i did really enjoy some of the layovers in like Europe and stuff. I was going to say
01:15:00
Speaker
That had to be cool to get to travel basically. I mean for free, I'm assuming yeah you got to go everywhere and Yeah. And I mean, that's why I stayed for as long as I did because there were so many cool perks and it's really hard to walk away from something that you're like, this is like being a flight attendant in itself is kind of like a once in a lifetime opportunity. Like what other job are you going to have or you do get to paid to see the world? So I was very aware of of the, well, yeah, but I was very aware of the like the privilege of being in that position
01:15:33
Speaker
um And so I just felt so wracked with guilt when it wasn't making me happy anymore. And I was like, there's something wrong with me. Why am I not so grateful for this experience? But it's not that it's it's not that it's a bad job, even though there are a lot of bad things about it. um it was It wasn't meant for me.
01:15:51
Speaker
i had a lot of I was put on the surface to do something else. And oh clearly the scariest part, especially someone with anxiety and ADHD and and OCD is I had to not only leave a career where I potentially was going to have like a pension and health insurance and ah retire and be able to have free passes for life around the world to then not join an already established band that's winning Grammys, but do a basically a startup and bet on myself and hope that this is going to take off. Like that's such a risk.
01:16:26
Speaker
And I was risking a lot. So I still have nightmares about it. You left that comfort zone, that comfortability, man. I get that. I'm like, that's just I'm the same way.
01:16:39
Speaker
yeah yeah I'll get into a job and I'm like, cool. I'm good. I'm comfortable. And then when it's time comes and it's like, oh, I got to find a new job or you know, um you know, an unfortunate event happens and in and you you leave um or you have to leave or whatever it's just like oh man i don't want to do something different i was comfortable within your brain starts going all that all that stuff starts to kick in and and you start to worry and i mean it was same thing with starting this podcast it was like not that we're you know hopefully one day we'll make money from it hopefully one day it'll lead me to quitting uh my nine to five job but in the meantime it's just like
01:17:19
Speaker
oh man, this is scary as hell. This is one of the scariest things I've done. And then you put all that pressure on you too because you don't want to let the others around you down. Whether it's your fault or not, you're going to feel like it's your fault if if it doesn't work out. you're like, oh shit, I just screwed this up for everybody else around me. My bad.
01:17:38
Speaker
It's funny you say the term, like, what if it doesn't work out? Because that's the name of one of our new songs is What If It Doesn't Work Out. And that's exactly what it's about. Because that's the only thing i was thinking about was like, what if it doesn't work out? what What are you going to do? um
01:17:57
Speaker
Arliss, they are in Canada. They're Toronto-ish area. Yeah, we're in Ontario. Yeah, just in Ontario. one They're just a couple hours away, as we learned.
01:18:08
Speaker
And it was like five hours from Ohio or something? Yeah. ah Let's see what's going on. Let me check out. yeah Yeah, thanks for reminding me, Arliss. I'll be better next time, though, if there is a next time.
01:18:22
Speaker
mar all this is yeah Arliss said, Glick, you're only emceeing for multi-award winning Grammy nominated artist. No pressure. No pressure at all.
01:18:32
Speaker
Yeah. Thanks for not telling me today. ah Gotta fly. Heed my words. These two are going to be the next huge Canadian artists that appeal to many people. I'm 56 years old. Metalhead from the 80s. And they hooked me. I agree with you.
01:18:45
Speaker
I agree with you. I have no doubt in my mind. um Well, thank you for being here. What up, Sarge? um but So how long ago?
01:18:58
Speaker
it sounds like you've been into music a good I'm assuming a good chunk of your life. Have you something that you've wanted to do or something like about how long have you been in the music? Like, how long ago did you start doing music? and was like, I'm done doing the flight attendant thing. and And now I'm going to pursue music.
01:19:17
Speaker
Well, I was, i mean, I've been in bands since I was 16. I've been in singing lessons since I was 13. So years and years and years of being in the music world. But um I was in a band called Anthems and Ashes while I was still a flight attendant. And so I was trying to do both for a really long time. And then that band dissolved during COVID.
Finding a Musical Niche
01:19:39
Speaker
And then I was doing this.
01:19:41
Speaker
ah but think we started writing songs like 2020. I think that the first song we released was like 2021 or something. um But I was once again, still trying to balance flight attending and performing.
01:19:54
Speaker
And I did, I think we did that for a couple years, at least two or three years. And then i really only quit the airline You're better with dates. Two years ago, year and a half?
01:20:05
Speaker
It would have been July of 2023 was your last flight. So he's good with dates. And then i think you actually only have quit either that October? Yeah. yeah Well, it's very recent. Maybe only like a year and a half. But um i was doing i was doing this before I finally hung up my wings or whatever you want to say.
01:20:29
Speaker
Yeah. So, yeah, it so it sounds like you're still trying to find your like you were saying earlier, you're still trying to find that your niche, so to say, you know, what you worry, what you want to do and stuff, which is great because it's fun to experiment and play.
01:20:44
Speaker
Yeah. And I think. This is our, we're recording our second EP now. um And it's... might turn out to be full-length. He keeps saying that. I don't see that. But we'll see. We'll see what what whatever the people want.
01:21:01
Speaker
ah Yeah, so we're we're definitely starting to kind of feel out what our style is and what we really like. What it comes down to, actually, is like what we like to do on stage.
01:21:13
Speaker
There are we songs that we love writing and then we perform them on stage and they just aren't as fun. So I think for me, yeah, they might be good record songs. Yeah.
01:21:23
Speaker
But I really love like, there's certain, there's a certain kind of song that I really love to perform on stage. oh we We want to write more of those because that's the best part.
Strategies for Releasing Singles
01:21:32
Speaker
not Yeah, exactly. It sounds like, it sounds like, and and in not only that, but from looking at your social media and stuff like that, you love to be on stage.
01:21:43
Speaker
Yeah. and and you've got the personality and and the look and everything. You're just like, here I am, fuck it. But as far as the music goes, like you said, you got the you were talking about the EP and stuff. Are you guys more focused on releasing singles, or do you want to go full-blown album?
01:22:03
Speaker
I mean, I'm old. I'm old, so I'm always going to stop them. Obviously, singles make more sense for a lot of new artists. I mean, singles are great for like, we're we have a limited budget. We're an independent artist. We're not backed by a label or anything like that. we're But it's hard in the past 35 years. No, but i'm I'm saying like, so to do a single and kind of drip them one after another is like this really...
01:22:31
Speaker
great tool that indie artists like us can do to get more people to hear our songs. If we just release them all at once in an album, they tend to get hidden and you don't get to, you don't get that time in order to like, push the algorithm of Spotify and yeah do like a release campaign around each song. So at this at this level, like that's kind of what you have to do these days, but I kind of like it because it means that you get to give each song its moment.
01:22:59
Speaker
um And we worked so hard on that. It's really nice to be able to be like, what's this song about? Like, what content can we make around this song? Like, how can I really convey this message? Yeah, when you do a whole record, I think some of them will will always fall in mind.
01:23:11
Speaker
Yeah. And so this way we get to really give each each song its, like, kind of moment in the spotlight, which was kind of cool. And now
Nostalgia for Albums and Booklets
01:23:19
Speaker
you're 100% right. Yeah. pretty much almost all the artists that I interview here on this show that I hang out with, they all have to say the same thing, man. we We want to focus on the singles. And then, you know, as you grow, and this is where being old comes into play, because um'm I'm an old man too.
01:23:36
Speaker
um i remember back in the day looking forward to albums being released so that I could plug them in and and sit there and listen track one all the way to track 14 all the way through but the more you guys release and then the bigger you get you're gonna you're gonna build that presence where the bands that are that are huge today they can drop an album and they know their fans are gonna go listen to them where um you know being new and like you said coming up in the indie scene and and and being independent and what not you might drop an album and people might only listen to a couple songs from it and they're like oh you didn't get the full experience man like like us growing up
01:24:16
Speaker
yeah We waited for that. and We wanted that full album experience. We're reading we're reading the cover to cover, the little well pamphlet, the little booklet that was inside. We want to see the pictures, the backstage pictures. It's supposed to be a journey like a book.
01:24:29
Speaker
so i mean yeah To me, you're like reading a couple of chapters or like cold milk. and Then you're like, you didn't really get the whole picture. You don't really understand. or you watch the trailer of a film. like
Storytelling Versus Viral Hits
01:24:40
Speaker
so yeah an album i mean and i think an i think a lot of newer artists who are actually big I've Taylor Swift say this, I've heard Billie Eilish say this, that they want to continue to focus on album formats because they think it's, you know We like, we we may release them as singles, but they will always be on an album that makes sense. They get dripped out as singles because they get the attention of the surge.
01:25:04
Speaker
That's why the label and then and they make the decision that you're only going to get two singles off ah an album. That kind bums me out a little bit. Yeah. You know? Well, that was the other great thing. you know I remember the artists that I really enjoyed. did you get there Back in the day, you get those two, maybe three songs that would come out on the radio.
01:25:25
Speaker
But when the album would hit, I didn't listen to those songs. I instantly went to the unreleased stuff. yeah But there are some artists, like you said, and you guys like to tell a story. And you guys want to and and and each song, you know you you put it in a format the way that it needs to flow.
01:25:42
Speaker
Artists that do that, I love that. storytellers I mean, anybody can, I mean, we've seen it a million times over, thanks to TikTok. Somebody gets famous because they can put a hook on a stupid beat, but they have absolutely no talent whatsoever.
01:25:58
Speaker
But the artists that that that write songs and tell stories, that I think that's what we're missing today. And I miss that. And I think that's the cool thing about the the independent artists, because a lot of you guys are still telling stories and and you're you're youre you're you're doing basically a book and an album.
01:26:14
Speaker
or as your songs are released, they tell a story. And
Upcoming Releases and Live Shows
01:26:18
Speaker
it's the only form of songwriting is telling a story, whether you go back to tribal times or you go back to country and Western of the late eighteen hundred s early 1900s, or the Beatles, you know? yeah Yeah.
01:26:31
Speaker
As goofy as some of their albums were, Yellow Submarine. It was still fun to listen to. Yeah. It was still fun to listen to. Yeah, yeah. yeah
01:26:42
Speaker
sure It was still a good story. Yeah. So it's summertime. It's a big time. Well, summertime's basically here. It's big time. um What do you guys got? What do you guys got coming up? what you know I'm sure there's listeners or people that are going to hear this that are in your neck of the woods or maybe in an area where you guys may be. what do you guys got coming up as far as like shows and you even new music that's going to be coming out?
01:27:12
Speaker
so So, actually first thing that's coming out, um, So that metal band that I used to be in that I mentioned, Anthems and Ashes, um we did break up during COVID, but ah we had actually released or, sorry, recorded an entire EP right before COVID. So, and Siegfried produced it.
01:27:37
Speaker
So, how much and and it's awesome. And it was just so sad that it never got to see the light of day. So, um, surprise surprise we're gonna i'm gonna uh like i think it's a five song ep on may 30th um so that's that's coming out so it's it's me singing but it's my old band and um it's just i'm really proud of those songs i'm really proud of what we all um did with it right so that's gonna come out and that's like a little surprise haven't announced it yet but um if someone's an old anthems fan they'll they'll be excited
01:28:09
Speaker
um And then as far as our stuff goes, we we've got weekend ah shows every weekend in June. We're opening up for Mice on the Hurricane in Guelph on June 7th. And then we're playing North by Northeast in Toronto on June 13th.
01:28:23
Speaker
um which I'm for. And then we're in Windsor. So we're like right close to the border, yeah um and June 21st. and And then i think we're playing a Greg Fest ah end of June. And then got a couple shows that it we're booking for July.
01:28:41
Speaker
um we might be going to Alberta maybe. yeah everyone trying we are really in the province We really, really, really want to get to Alberta because our top two listener monthly listener cities are um Calgary and Edmonton. So we were like, we can make it happen. It would be so great in the fall to get there. So we're looking into that. I know Johnny Tucker's gone now, but he's from Alberta and he's been like begging us to get over there. He said it a few times tonight. He said it a few times tonight. You guys got to get up to the Alberta area so that he can come see it.
01:29:17
Speaker
Yeah, so we'd love to we'd love to do that. um Yeah, so I mean, and then... knee deepep into the record Yeah, and we're already started ah recording the new EP.
01:29:28
Speaker
And actually tomorrow we have a drummer coming to the studio to record our new drums for our next single.
Humorous Performance Recollections
01:29:35
Speaker
yeah
01:29:39
Speaker
Singbreed's producing it. Surprise! and no I just didn't realize tomorrow was already Wednesday. I thought tomorrow was Tuesday. Tomorrow's Tuesday. Today is Tuesday.
01:29:50
Speaker
these Today's Tuesday. What the hell happened to Monday? yeah You know, Monday don't matter. yeah buts ah You're in Toronto. and just yeah I just finished like six-song EP with a band that was here for like four days from Ottawa.
01:30:03
Speaker
And literally from the time they showed up to the time they left, it was just like a blink. ah Yeah, Siegfried has this really amazing studio that he built um near Lake Huron. And it's he's a producer. He's very humble, but he wanted Juno. Oh, nice.
01:30:19
Speaker
Yeah, so he's a badass. And that's <unk>s why I love writing songs with him, too, because he's really good at it. And your music, your production always sounds killer. So, um yeah, we got a lot bands out here, and he does a lot of mixing as well.
01:30:33
Speaker
I think that's the issue is I'm always so busy with what my day job is of producing and mixing records and and mastering too. and that we don't i wouldn't say Harley comes second, but sometimes you have to because...
01:30:50
Speaker
But i I pay you in love.
01:30:56
Speaker
That's currency. You can't use that at the grocery center but not store. Cats pay rent. Yeah, that's the new TikTok trend right now is that you're collecting rent from your your cat, your tenant, and you're just like kissing the face aggressively. I'm going to this this video and think that all I do all day is watch cat TikTok. So you do. I mean, yeah the crazy yeah you the great you you are the crazy cat lady.
01:31:21
Speaker
yeah what the tax you yeah i was Oh my gosh. We did a Halloween show and the night before we were like, what are we going to do? We need a good costume.
01:31:32
Speaker
And so we went to the Goodwill. I dressed up as like a sexy cat. And then we made him the crazy cat lady. And he had like fuzzy, ah like dressing gown, housecoat with his hair and curlers, like red lipstick.
01:31:49
Speaker
and he And he, we got him a pooper scooper and he was like playing the guitar with the pooper scooper. then favorite part was he had a cat toy and then i was like and then my favorite part was he had a ah cat toy and then i was like
01:32:04
Speaker
it was weird where's the video where's the video of this and that's what there yeah yeah my favorite uh thing about that night was um as we packed up i had to carry all the gear on this like trolley thing and it was going over these like subway tracks on the road and like all the gear slip fell and we got a little short with our with each other and then we're just kind of like a little bit tense we're like kind of like yelling each other in the street and we realized we look totally fucking nuts in
01:32:36
Speaker
What's going on in the street? yeah that's that's something That's some shit you see in Florida right there. A crazy cat lady and a sexy cat yelling at each other in the street. Oh my God.
01:32:54
Speaker
You were scolding the cat. That was so funny. Prayer in the face with water bottle. Oh, I think it was the music that we're putting on in the water. Yeah.
01:33:04
Speaker
Nice.
Band Management Responsibilities
01:33:05
Speaker
Things we're doing this summer. We've moved on past that. Have we moved on past that? I think we did. I don't remember. We're talking about past shows now and dressing as cats. Did we? Yeah. If that wasn't an extension of it was but the of what the is going on. Keep up with the kids with ADHD. Come on. You got to keep up with the Neuro Spicy Kids because we're already on another subject. Yeah. It's not worth it.
01:33:34
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. We're pretty busy. where We've got a lot of things happening, a lot of things going on. so Yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah. I mean, I wear many hats too. Like it's, I have to be emailing, booking my own shows, applying to festivals, creating show posters. When I do get a show, ah sometimes I'll put lineups together and I'll basically be the promoter of the show and try to get that together. And um yeah, then we're doing rehearsals. i just ordered um like,
01:34:11
Speaker
Band merch, so the t-shirts are coming and gotta pick those up. um ah New designs for stickers, like it's just, it's constant, it never stops. But this is my hyper focus. So um yeah what's that's what's cool about it is like, instead of now hyper focusing on my favorite bands, like when I was 16, now I'm hyper focusing on my career and I'm using that superpower um to kind of try to grow that at an exponential rate without burning myself out.
01:34:40
Speaker
Yes, that is the key. yeah i did um like my we we We have merch and my ex was going to handle that. And now it's like, now I got to learn how to use all this fucking equipment.
Releasing Covers Before Originals
01:34:52
Speaker
And I have promised shirts to former guests of Clicks House of Music.
01:34:57
Speaker
And it's just like, and I've got other stuff and I don't know how to use any of this shit. And I don't know where to get any of this shit from. And it's just like, ah, um but you know, I, eventually I'll... You're going to have to bring her access in. No, I would say yeah that's a game over. I just need to i need to find a new one that can do the things that does. That's what I do.
01:35:16
Speaker
That's what I do. You say exactly. It's clearly worked out for you. yeah One of the requirements of dating me is that you have to make shirts. Do you know how to make shirts? Okay, well, we'll go ahead and cancel. At least be willing to learn to make the shirts.
01:35:35
Speaker
Well, that's another option too. Would you be willing to have all the equipment? Is it okay? Yep. Compromise. Shirts, hats, cups, you know, all that stuff. So I'm slowly learning, you know, it's one of those things on my list of let's, let's learn to do that. Eventually I started doing cups. So I think I'm getting, think I'm getting okay on the cups, but that's easy. That's just wrapping You know, it's not pushing buttons and temperatures and pressing and timing and,
01:36:03
Speaker
Things I have to pay attention to, which Lord knows I won't.
01:36:09
Speaker
Because there's always squirrels running around at the end of the day. Yeah, there's squirrels in the room too. So Robert asked, do you guys currently have any albums out? or is it just the same? We have the EP.
01:36:26
Speaker
ah The EP is called Hiding Little Pieces. um So that's our first like cohesive release. And then, um yeah, the next one we're going start releasing. There's a lot of singles, too, like some covers and things. Yeah, well, yeah, there's a bunch of covers, too, on Spotify and stuff.
01:36:43
Speaker
um There's a bunch of covers on YouTube too. and Yeah. yeah but so That shows off your your vocal range and and everything like that as well. Yeah, and a lot of those covers I started doing during COVID um because I had songs written, but I wanted to sort of like build up my fan base on YouTube first before I started releasing like originals, because had no audience.
Experiences in a Clown Punk Band
01:37:08
Speaker
So I was like, just sort of covering songs that I liked, like Lady Gaga and Dua Lipa and like kind of more pop stuff. Because like I said, i was trying to push myself vocally and kind of get out of that crutch of screaming. And then now I'm like, yeah, screaming is fun.
01:37:22
Speaker
And now it's like Linkin Park and My Chemical Romance. And um so, yeah, we' there's definitely a range of ah artists that we've covered. And then, um yeah, then the EP is out. And then the next EP is going start sort of dripping out. It'll trickle out. There'll be a summer single coming in the summer.
01:37:42
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Nice. You have that really cool um version of You're Not Ready. ah featuring Emily Bones. Yeah. She's got a voice on her.
01:37:53
Speaker
You two together is is really cool. You guys mesh very well. um thank you Thank you. That came on when i was at the gym today and I was like, Who's the other shit? Hold on a second.
01:38:08
Speaker
I had to stop what I was doing and and and grab my... Because I just had my phone sitting in like the cup holder on the machine I was on. and I had to stop what I was doing and grab my phone and and and look and see. i was like, wow, this is really fucking cool.
01:38:22
Speaker
so She's the singer of the Auntie Queens. um We have been... in the same music community for so long. Like um I think she was, she's always been in the anti-queens since I've known her, but I was in like anthems and, um and then now this, ah so we were, and I was in, I was also in a clown band for a while, a clown punk rock band um with my best friend.
01:38:46
Speaker
that Is that a thing with, is that a thing with, with, with you female rock? I had another chick that was on here and she's still, it's like, she, she's got one band. and and But she's also active in ah in a clown, like punk rock band.
01:38:58
Speaker
Like, ah like ah what is it? Was it the same one as me? Because we had multiple singers, so. Oh, God, I got it. Now I'm going to have to. oh my God, who was that? The band that I was in. think she was in New York.
01:39:09
Speaker
But she was in New York, I think. Yeah, different differentin clown punk rock bands. But I mean, it was it was the craziest time of my life because my my best friend was in that band as well. And she is like a ah circus performer, kind of like she does freak shows at Canada's Wonderland and stuff. She's crazy, but in the best way.
01:39:28
Speaker
um But I like ah part of the act was like I would staple gun Christmas lights to her and then she'd like rip them off her arm or like it like I can see your face.
01:39:39
Speaker
That's not terrifying or anything. Yeah, no, so we do that on stage and like um she sometimes would like hammer a nail into her nose. like We were just like crazy, ah you know just normal fun stuff.
01:39:52
Speaker
Yes. joggling and normal Just normal. It's it's Tuesday or Thursday. We don't know. We're just stapling Christmas lights and shoving nails up our nose.
01:40:05
Speaker
I feel like pussies. yeah but Yeah, I mean, that's that's where's where I
Comedy and Personal Anecdotes
01:40:12
Speaker
came from. And that's... You've definitely calmed down.
01:40:17
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think... ah I mean, i wanted I wanted to have a good time and have as many experiences as possible. And ah being in a clown punk rock band seems like the best way to do that.
01:40:29
Speaker
um So are you going to be stapling Christmas lights to sing anytime soon? No.
01:40:38
Speaker
but it's obvious yeah um not I got this nail, Sig. I got an idea. I got this nail. I need you to shove it up your nose is right in the middle of a sweet-ass guitar solo. I'm also not into it. I'm not one of those dudes.
01:40:58
Speaker
by the way i'm also not in reason i'm not one of those we we do we do it we don't keep We don't kink shame here on the Nonsensical Network. You're fine.
01:41:09
Speaker
but One time in my in my youth, I was in my late teens, and I had had some trouble urinating. And I went to the doctor for the test. And back then, they couldn't do just a regular...
01:41:21
Speaker
you know urine tests like they do today for those things. and Although I thought this is what she was doing and she brings up this giant fucking Q-tip thing and I thought she was just going to swab the end of it and like take a sample. She just grabs my dick and shoves it in and I i almost passed out.
01:41:42
Speaker
yeah I'm with you. I'm with you, man. I don't want any sharp objects near it. I don't want anything going inside of it. like if if If it's life or death and I need a catheter, just let me die. I've had a good run, people.
01:42:00
Speaker
i've had I've had a good run. Just let me go. i like kids. I love them. Thankfully, today, you can do all of those tests with just a urine sample. Yes.
01:42:10
Speaker
I never got stapled. that I didn't want that either. i just i did the stapling. yeah I don't know if I'm going to get I'm also the resident splinter getter outer. love it. Oh, yeah, you're great at that. Yeah, I'm really good at it. You got good eyes.
01:42:21
Speaker
She's got eyes like a hawk. Yeah. You should be worried, Sig. She wasn't getting stapled. She was doing the stapling. So... As long as they can stop with my urethra, I'm good. Yeah.
01:42:35
Speaker
Stable me wherever you want as long as it's not there. I don't think that word is going to come up today. What, urethra? Yeah.
Audience Interaction and Social Media
01:42:42
Speaker
You never know what's going to happen on the Nonsense School Network. That's all I got to say. Of course, there's not a day that goes by where the word urethra doesn't come up in my life.
01:42:53
Speaker
I can't remember the last time the word has come up in my life. so but
01:43:01
Speaker
It's a first for everything. so you guys, you know, I don't want to keep you guys too long over the, yeah, too hard. You guys have been great. You guys are awesome. oh Thank you.
01:43:12
Speaker
I got it up on the screen, but let everybody know where they can find you guys at, social media-wise, all that fun jazz. Oh, you want the spiel now? The spiel.
01:43:22
Speaker
Promote yourself. Yeah. So, ah yeah, I'm very active on Instagram, ah at Harley Olivia Music. i'm Also very active on TikTok, so at Harley underscore Olivia.
01:43:33
Speaker
And, I mean, we've got a website, HarleyOliviaMusic.com. That has our show calendars. you're ever curious about um if we are coming to your province or state, we're check on there because I try to update that pretty regularly.
01:43:47
Speaker
um Yeah. YouTube, any music videos that we do end up on YouTube. So um you can find us there too. um Yeah. I mean, um' I'm pretty active on social media. I think it's important to connect with the audience and it makes it way more fun because then I'm not just like talking to myself.
01:44:07
Speaker
I'm actually talking to humans. Like, yeah. People that come up today, like Celso and Johnny, like those are some great um followers of mine that are just awesome people and I've got to know them. And that makes it more fun for us when we get to put faces and names to it. So come join us at Harley Living Music. I also have a little broadcast channel on Instagram.
01:44:29
Speaker
um It's called The Homies. um So join that. I put fun things in there and polls and behind the scenes content that I don't post to my main feed. So um yeah, it's a good time.
Open Invitation for Future Visits
01:44:40
Speaker
I'm going to follow you guys. I'm just kidding. yeah This is about you. No, but he is ah a fucking awesome producer. It's about you too, man.
01:44:52
Speaker
Yeah. And I mean, posts a lot. There's not too many Siegfried Meyers. If you type in my name, it'll it'll just take you right there. And actually, he goes if you like our music, like Siegfried does mixing workshops and um production workshops at the studio. And and he's always posting about that on his feed too. So if you go on, if you follow Siegfried Meyers,
01:45:14
Speaker
um on Instagram you, and if you're a producer or a mixer or master or a music audio engineer person, um you can learn a lot from him. So yeah. Or we can just nerd out.
01:45:28
Speaker
Yeah. you That's good to talk about gear. I don't want to hear about it anymore.
01:45:34
Speaker
Olivia does respond and I know that because she was quick to respond we were quick to set up this interview and it was one that I was definitely looking forward to because you know sometimes it's hard to get a read on people just from texting but other times there's people like yourself that it's just like oh yeah she's going to be fun she's going to be cool we're going to have a good time on the show Um, so I got to do my homework. I got to go follow you guys on TikTok and I'll follow you on Facebook and Instagram and and and YouTube and all that fun stuff.
01:46:04
Speaker
So now I got to go follow you on TikTok and, uh, be the, but Be the weird guy who likes everything. Like, like, like, like. it and And I get a lot of comments lines from people being like, oh, like, remember us when you get to the top. And it's like, of course I'm going to fucking remember you guys. Like, for the longest time, I was just sort of screaming into the void and I'd known to talk to. So I really grateful for every single comment and like and share. Because, like I said, at this point, at this level, being an indie artist with no, like, label backing us.
01:46:37
Speaker
um it's it's the fans. It's the people who really like the music that are helping us. And um honestly, that's what makes it fun. So I really appreciate you following us and finding me and inviting us here today.
01:46:50
Speaker
And
Show Wrap-up and Final Thoughts
01:46:51
Speaker
this is yeah this has been awesome. You guys you guys are you guys are welcome back anytime. You got new stuff coming up. You want to promote stuff, hit us up. send Send me stuff you know on social media. We'll promote it. We'll share it out.
01:47:03
Speaker
um As long as you guys are okay with it. And this is where got to put the ammo in the gun because fuck you, YouTube, and fuck you, Facebook. As long as you guys are okay with it, we're going to keep playing your music here on the network. Yes, you can play my music.
01:47:15
Speaker
Yes. I suck at YouTube. How's that? Yeah, Dave. yeah ah But yeah, well you know anything you guys, anything we can do for you guys, you guys are welcome back anytime. You got new stuff coming out. Hey, click.
01:47:28
Speaker
Can we come up again? Yeah, let's look at the calendar. You know you want to promote something. Or if you just want to hang out, we don't give a damn. I don't give a damn. But um I do want to play, if you guys want if you guys want to and if you can, I want to play one more song and then just kind of come back and close the show up and get some final final thoughts from you guys.
01:47:45
Speaker
I was talking about it earlier. I didn't do the version that I but i that i was talking about. I wanted to get a, oh, no, I'm sorry. It's wrong. Maybe.
01:47:55
Speaker
I don't I don't know what i'm talking about anymore. I wanted to get a video of of of your live performance. And like I said, you do a lot of you do a lot of music videos of live performances. And that's that's really cool. So you guys can get a little taste of what you're going to see if you go see these guys live. If you see Harley live, be prepared. Because she's going wear you out. And you're not even going to do anything. You're just going to get wore out watching You'll be jumping goddammit.
01:48:21
Speaker
Yeah. here's ah Here's a little Harley. Harley Olivia with You're Not Ready.
01:48:33
Speaker
You begged me to tell you just what I was thinking. Now you won't look at me. You tore up my dress and my heart is now thinking. Now you won't look at me.
01:48:47
Speaker
Dirt in my hair and my fingers.
01:48:52
Speaker
We'll be right back.
01:49:30
Speaker
I thought, should I try to endure this? Will you ever see? I won't pretend that your coldness is charming. You're just like empathy.
01:49:43
Speaker
tried to tell you just how I was feeling. This is not real love. Now I'm mess looking at ceiling. took too long. This is wrong, just want you out of here.
01:51:44
Speaker
Yay! Hell yeah. I love it. I love your energy. I love the music. Like I said, I'm a new fan. I'm digging it. I can't wait to see you guys. This is the fun thing about me, is doing the indie thing, doing the local thing. I get to watch you guys grow.
01:51:59
Speaker
I get to watch you guys blow up. uh which i have no doubts gonna happen for you guys if you ever get down to ohio let me know ah will uh i will gladly i don't care where you're at in ohio i'll gladly come and see you guys live and uh say hi we definitely want to come down at like ah at some point we have to come to the states so what what what's the biggest city in ohio where where would we play We have Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati. Well, oh well I guess since since he's got a pretty nice music scene, Columbus does as well.
01:52:32
Speaker
u times Yeah, since he's down southern, is basically we've been trying to give Cincinnati to Kentucky for years. They just won't take them. but they're down on the border. But Cleveland and then Columbus. Columbus has got a pretty good music scene.
01:52:47
Speaker
Surprisingly, my little my little neck of the woods is pretty good for for music as well. So we've got a couple different areas, couple different spots that they bring people in from all over the place, especially out at the lake.
01:52:59
Speaker
This summer is just getting ready to pop off, and I was already looking at the calendar going, kids aren't here this weekend who's performing where am i going on the lake this summer to see music oh stop don yeah so so before i let you guys go first and foremost thank you guys you guys anybody listening y'all out there catching the replay uh first and foremost go give harley a follow go give her go give her some love come join me yeah go say hello, go give her some love. Tara Glick sent you and, uh, you drop a, drop a like, drop a comment on the, on, on this, on this show, on the replay, that way it boosts the algorithm and it'll help you guys out as well.
01:53:39
Speaker
Um, but no, thank you guys so much. You guys were great. Uh, looking forward to hearing more music. And, uh, like I said, looking forward to, uh, definitely seeing more bigger and better things come out of you guys. Awesome.
01:53:49
Speaker
Thank you. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for having me. It's been fun before I let you, before I let you get out of here. Um, Anything you want to leave the people with any words of wisdom, any final thoughts, any, uh, anything like that?
01:54:07
Speaker
Just protect your urethra, people. it area body Make sure that, you know, you keep it well guarded. Yeah.
01:54:18
Speaker
Hashtag protect your urethra. Keep it safe. It's like that thing that Bob Barker would say at the end. He's like, help control the population.
01:54:29
Speaker
Help control the urethra damage. my God. Protect your urethra. Yeah, I think that's the best way to add it. We're a condom all the time. All the time.
01:54:41
Speaker
All the time. Thank you. oh it's wearing all the dog thank you
01:54:49
Speaker
Jonathan Small. Jonathan Small. She agrees. Yes. You agree with him. Thank you. Yeah, you guys are you guys are great. um I just got to close out. I got to my closing spiel on that fun jazz and play the outro. You guys are welcome to hang out.
01:55:07
Speaker
If you got to go, you got to go. Don't worry. I won't hold it against you. But, no, again, thank you guys for all hanging out. Yeah, man. Checking it out. Hopefully you guys enjoyed the interview. Hopefully you guys enjoyed our Harley's music.
01:55:20
Speaker
Go give her a follow. Go show her some love, like I said. Check us out as well. It's not all about Harley because it's it's my show. It's got to be about me a little bit. and Now, check us out, bio.link slash nonsensicalnetwork. Check out all the shows. ah i Speedway Stories with Wally on Mondays, Quick House of Music with me. What do I got coming up next week?
01:55:43
Speaker
I have no idea. I can't keep track of my calendar. I just learned how to use my Google Calendar on my phone, by the way. when I started doing this show.
01:55:52
Speaker
Next week, oh, I got Bo Haas and his wife coming to hang out with us. That'll be fun because they're part of the Roland Duet family and Jake Young family. So he came highly recommended. So looking forward to hanging out with Bo and his wife. Great musician has been around for a long time and made a lot of great music.
01:56:11
Speaker
Wednesdays, we don't know what's happening on Wednesdays. Something. Blaze and I are working that out. Thursdays, Wally's talking all things ah reptiles fridays blaze and mike are back with nonsense and chill it's a movie show they're doing movie stuff saturdays you guys know what saturday is the inmates take over the asylum we do the open door challenge we drop the link in the chat and we invite you fucking weirdos to come hang out with us we just ask you to keep pecking your pants because it's i have to ask that because it's happened to us and there's the ninja and we make it an appearance yeah
01:56:46
Speaker
Oh, he's adorable. Oh, fluffy thing.
01:56:51
Speaker
ah And then Sundays we do Unnecessary Roughness, our sports show. Don't forget every other Saturday. Cash and I here are here doing all things wrestling on Cash's Corner.
01:57:03
Speaker
That's my my youngest son, and him and I do a wrestling podcast together. So check us out, bio.link slash nonsensicalnetwork. We appreciate you guys listening. We appreciate y'all listening. and Don't forget to tell a friend. And, again, go check out Harlan.
01:57:15
Speaker
because she's awesome. Sig is awesome. And their ninja cat is awesome.
01:57:21
Speaker
and Actually, Rupi's on my merch, too. You can get a t-shirt with his face on it. And you never know. You might see a sexy cat and a crazy cat lady in the middle of the street in Canada yelling at each other if you go to one of their shows. Yeah, you know, it could happen again.
01:57:39
Speaker
But no, thank you, guys. You guys are great. You guys are awesome. I got a fender. got to figure out how to find my buttons. There we go. And we're going to end this thing. So thank you guys again. And like I said, you're more welcome to hang out.
01:57:50
Speaker
It'll just do an automatic intro and then kick us backstage. If you got to leave, feel free to leave. All right. We'll be here.
01:58:07
Speaker
Nonsensical network, different flavor every day. Movie talks, new flips, hitting the display. Microphone magic, musicians spill the praise. From reptiles to motorsports, burning rubber craze. Football clashes, touchdowns, epic plays.
01:58:22
Speaker
News spinning, catching on the latest phase. Bleaming cars, engines roaring up the pace. Street tales, urban stories. we embrace tune
01:59:00
Speaker
but the vibe's just right, tune in, tune in, wait
01:59:11
Speaker
on repeat