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Primate
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In this episode, Nicholas is joined by Rosia Gooding (Movies With Bae) to discuss 2026's Primate! They discuss the movie's family dynamics, the relationship between man and chimp, the effects of rabies on humans and animals, and other topical and not so topical subjects. They also give brief thoughts on The Plague!
Primate and The Plague are both in theaters now!
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Appearance
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What's up, guys? It's Marble Curiosities, your favorite horror movie podcast, and we're back with another episode. I'm your host, Nicholas Ewers, and with me is a guest today, one of the co-hosts of the Movies with Bay podcast, Rocia Gooding.
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How are you doing, Rocia? hi I'm great. How are you, Nicholas? I'm doing fantastic. It's been a while. It's been a long time since we've talked, since we've been on the potty together.
00:01:39
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That was good. Thank you. Who is that? Is that Nickelback? ah That's Stained. All right, cut that off. um everybodys don't let the Don't let the world know. That you like Stained? No, that I got that wrong.
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You know? when I go, I think you should edit it so it's like, when I'm like, oh, is it Nickelback? Take Nickelback out and put Stained? What is it? and Stained. Stained. Yeah. Like put that exact clip and then cut the rest of it.
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Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. I'm great. Happy to be here. Thank you for coming on. ah
Overview of 'Primate' Movie
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Yeah, guys. Today we're going to be talking about the new movie that's playing in theaters. This monkey.
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Well, not monkey. Damn it. I've already got it wrong. This chimpanzee horror movie. Primate. Yeah. We got to see this one together. We're, we are very well known. We're famous for seeing movies together. Yeah. It's a thing. Yeah.
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I guess we can just hop right into initial thoughts unless you had any table setting, anything you need to address on mic. i was I thought we were going to have a little key first. i thought we were going to key key, but we're getting straight to business. All right. I would like you to start with your initials. Wait, have the little key? What do you mean?
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a key? A key key? No, I don't know what that means. like A learning moment. and nicholas this is Nicholas is learning, A-A-V-E. It's like have a a chat, a time, a fun time, back and forth, a dialogue, a laugh together.
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No, we don't do that on this podcast. This a deadly serious podcast. yeah No laughing allowed. No lulls would be will be uttered on mic.
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and Got you. Yeah, if you laugh, I cut it out, and you never return to the podcast. ah oh You're out. Oh, no. ah Pack your shit and go. Your paycheck, your last paycheck will be in the mail. Residuals? ah ah We don't really have advertising on this episode, so.
00:03:43
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Yeah. Yeah. Won't really be seeing any of that. Oh, no. I did it again. Wait, you did it, too. Yeah. Well, guys, we're done. Yeah. Podcast is over. I'm getting a text from a higher up.
00:03:56
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We got to shut this down. From HR, from management. From upstairs. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, you got anything you want to you know, shoot the shit about? Oh, oh now we're keying. No, no, no. I want you to start with your initial thoughts. I'm very interested in you kicking it off. Okay. um We were discussing...
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off mic that ah I'm still this is going to be work me working out my feelings for the movie um we saw it yesterday and I haven't really thought about it all that much since we've seen it I had to go on Wikipedia and read a little bit of ah what happened in the movie and Before we jumped on here, and we also have the trailer playing on repeat in the background, which gives away almost everything in this movie. but It's funny, you didn't have to reveal our secrets?
00:04:54
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What secret? The trailer in the background. Oh, my bad. Yeah. um But we're going to stay spoiler free for the initial thought segment of this episode. So...
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Yeah, for me, Primate, I guess I thought it was it was just okay, maybe. it a it was a serviceable horror movie.
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It's not really reaching for anything too great or too meaningful. It's kind of just supposed to be thrills. These people are trapped in a house with a wild monkey that starts attacking people.
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And that's what the movie gives you. I thought that maybe they could have worked to make the kills a bit more inventive. they The movie kind of, I feel like, ends up getting caught in a cycle of its own creation.
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And we'll get into what I mean by that a little bit more in spoilers. I feel like the movie could have done more than it really did with the premise of haunted house, but with um a wild chimpanzee.
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But overall, I think it works. I think it's an
Suspense and Special Effects in 'Primate'
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entertaining movie. If you're not that big into horror, I think this is really going to be perfect for you, especially.
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It would serve as a good entryway into horror. And I think it's better than your cocaine bears or horror movies that don't take itself seriously. This is a movie that I feel like is taking itself seriously. And it's trying to deliver something entertaining. And for the most part, I would say it's an entertaining movie that is just trying to be that.
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But overall, it works. Yeah, I'd say it works for me really well. I thoroughly enjoyed many aspects of this movie. like I think I'm going to discover, as we discuss, some things that i maybe didn't like.
00:06:59
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Off top of my head, the things that I... had something to say about were more so character behaviors rather than like the movie the plot and everything itself so i thought it was a pretty good watch i don't remember if i previously saw a trailer going in Did we see one in another movie?
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I'm not sure if you've seen a trailer for it I know I have, but you haven't seen every movie that I've seen in theaters, and you also don't go to see every horror movie that I saw. Like, I could have seen a trailer for this before, Keeper, because you didn't see Keeper with me. But we have seen posters for the movie. We have. There was some idea with the monkey, and you know what?
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I love the monkey. Saw the poster with a monkey on it and went, got to see that movie. You know, it's the good it's a good time for the monkey.
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um and The monkeys are doing great right now. Monkeys are up. So, yeah, I thought it was actually a really good watch, a very entertaining watch. It was a very...
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It's suspenseful, even though it's like, I mean, if you watch if you watch movies, you know it's going to happen, but it still kept you on your toes. My heart rate was actually pretty up for, you know, many moments in it. I feel my pulse. And it's not, gosh, it's not even just like what the scene is necessarily, but it's how long they would drag things out, which, you know, it gave it gave um It gave film.
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like It's like that's what they were trying. They were trying to give you film in a movie. They were trying to give you art Something to get your senses, you know, move your get your pulse running. Trying to give you a sense of dread moments. Very much
Story Techniques and Character Dynamics
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to that. Yeah. Yeah, no, I thought it was a good watch. I i loved the kills.
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We'll get into some of those. Because as I've said before, Anybody cares? um I love gore. And this did a decent job at gore, but I see what you mean when you talked about some of the kills. I i kind of agree.
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Well, i I do want to agree with you on that, though. This movie had really good special effects. I thought the gore looked really good. I closed my eyes during a lot of it because I was just like I couldn't handle some of the gore. It was i'm a very pretty visceral. Like, it was very real. Yeah, and I'm a big wimp with some of this stuff.
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Mm-hmm. And they definitely jumped right in with it, which I appreciate. Jump right in Give me the good, tell me what I'm getting into. There were actually a few jump scares in a movie that isn't scary. It's not scary movie. It's, yes you know what I mean? Like what you said earlier, but the story, everything came together very well. And it was bloody and scary and sad and victorious. And it good movie. I will say I feed off of your energy a lot of the times when we watch movies. And like I could tell that you were really tense throughout a lot of this movie. i had so much to say. I feel like I wouldn't shut up. I'm sorry. I was like, oh, my God. i was like, feel my pulse. Yeah, you felt my pulse a couple of times. I thought you were trying to see. i couldn't tell what you were doing. But then i got idea. Yeah, was like, am I crazy?
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Or... I got the idea that i was like, oh, this is really like working for you. And that made me like it a bit more. And I do think judging off of the audience, this was like a crowd pleaser, right? Our crowd seemed pretty positive on it, I'd say. Our loud ass crowd definitely loved it. I think people, and without even like going overboard, people reacted to moments that they definitely wanted you to react to, which I like. it's It makes me think,
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oh, okay, so we're all feeling the same thing right now. Okay, great, cool. it is Okay, yeah. And it was a pretty full theater. I think this movie is going to do well. You know, single location. I don't know if it's like a little person in a monkey suit or what the deal is with that. I want to say something, but I feel like it might be considered a spoiler. Are you serious? What? Yeah, i that's what it looked like to me. I think it's someone in a suit or maybe some kind of puppet. But to me, it it looked like somebody in a suit.
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But what's it called? i for Oh, yeah. But yeah, somebody in a suit, one location. it strikes me as low budget. And I think this thing's probably going to be pretty successful at the box office. So I think this movie is going to do well. And I think it's going to get pretty decent reviews overall. Because the budget says between $21 and $24 million. I don't know how. Really?
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The already done budget is not yet figured. I'm not sure. That could be a thing. feel like this could be like $5 million. So far has um gotten $5 million in the box office.
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I mean, if I'm wrong and that's a real chimp, then forgive me, but I... Oh, that's not a real chimp by any means. Okay. No. I thought that's what you were saying. No, will say later, it's not. Maybe that's why it costs $20 million.
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That's wild. But yeah, if you're ready, we can just hop into spoilers. All right. So, Primate, something's wrong with Ben. Ben's the name of the chimp. Ben is the name of the chimp, which I, not going to lie, call me slow. Took me a second to figure that Just a second, you know.
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And I was like, who is who are all these names? Because at some point they just start naming people. and Yeah, one of them is named Nick. and There's a Nick that comes in. For the past few movies we've been seeing, not even in theater, there's been a Nick in like at least every other movie. And for some reason, whenever a character is named Nick, people have to say that character's name a bunch.
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It seems to thing. Yeah, it's never, hey, you. It's always addressing that person by name. The movie I think I can tolerate it the most in is maybe Gone Girl. And that's just because, i don't know, I've really grown to dig watching Ben Affleck's character stumble throughout that movie. I've really grown to fetishize about my wife faking her death.
00:13:37
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And I hope happens to me one day. I don't want to get Gone Girl. Don't put that on me. sorry yeah um yeah so one thing i do want to say up top this movie begins in a way that i don't like and i was immediately they kind of just like okay we're we're in for a bit of a rough start the movie opens in media res are you familiar with that term media res yeah so media res i know Okay, so it's basically, you know how the movie began with like a scene that takes place in the middle of
Comparisons with Other Horror Films
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the movie? And then it cuts to 36 hours earlier. Okay, yeah. Yeah, it shows you something from later in the movie and then goes to the beginning.
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I don't... ah Horror does that a lot. I don't really like that as a use. I just don't really vibe with that in movies a lot of the time. It's kind of a hang-up for me. It feels almost like a studio note.
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Like a studio being like, this movie doesn't get exciting fast enough. You have to have something at the beginning to get people interested. And it's almost like they didn't trust... Like when you're writing, remember you would like write essays in school?
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I felt like a more confident movie would have trusted you with just getting into the story and introducing you to the characters. and Because even the way the movie introduces Ben initially, it it treats it like a reveal. Like we don't know that there's a chimp in the house and that there's going to be a chimp in this movie. I like that because we didn't see it in the beginning. We know it's coming, but it's like the way you can introduce somebody is allowed to be fun.
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but what I'm saying is it is played like we as the audience aren't supposed to expect there to be a chimp, but that's ruined for us because they put a scene at the beginning of the movie that reveals that there's a killer chimp in there. so I'm just kind of like...
00:15:43
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It's not something that I really like as a storytelling means or an editing choice. I kind of would just, I think, appreciate it more if we just started at the beginning of the story and they trusted that we would pick up on what the chimp and what was going on with the chimp.
00:16:02
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I mean, like I guess, yeah, it depends on the movie. I'm going to not fully disagree, but only because if every movie did it like that, it's okay. Like, I like the shaking things up.
00:16:15
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I mean, it's been done before. I'm not saying that as in it's innovative or anything, but it's, it's it's an exciting way to start and catch somebody's attention. I sure cat caught my attention.
00:16:28
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And also, like I said, even just the way they introduced him. Cause like, yeah, we knew Ben, we knew there was going to be a monkey at some point and he's going to be killing folks. um But the way they introduced it, allow the audience to almost not forget about that, but kind of think what,
00:16:48
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is going to happen because this is such a sweet little look at this little guy he's like fine i'll come out for a teddy bear like you look at that characteristic and you're like oh my gosh how does he get there that we saw exactly so it it just starts the question starts the ball rolling on you questioning everything you're seeing i so i agree with you and there are times where it does work for me Media res. I mean, um nothing in particular is coming to mind right now.
Intelligent Chimpanzee Narrative
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The only thing that I can think of is a case where I don't like it. And the case that I use most often is don't breathe, because I think don't breathe.
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just uses media res and it spoils a part of the movie later. And I'm like, why the fuck would you show that to me? It didn't even add any excitement. Whereas this could like, I could see it where you're like, okay, what I saw earlier doesn't reflect this chimp. Now, how does it get to that point?
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um I don't necessarily love that as a means of storytelling, but I can see the appeal behind it and like the excitement, like, okay, I know where we're going to end up. So like, what is like, how do we get there? Like, you're curious about the journey. It sets up some type of expectation, but. One issue that I have a little bit with this movie and the way it does it is this movie, it it pays homage to Jurassic Park once, maybe twice, but that intro felt like it was trying to do the intro to Jurassic Park a little bit where its worker at the park gets injured.
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And it seems like Certain horror movies are kind of trying to do the Jurassic Park intro a little bit. I feel like I've seen other ones almost like paying homage. And what I'm talking about when I'm saying the Jurassic Park thing is this raptor kills ah an engine worker at the beginning of the movie as they're putting it in the cave. Not you spoiling Jurassic Park. Well, it's the beginning of the movie. Oh, It's the beginning of the movie. But the difference between that is that's not media res, though. like it's In order of like time, that is the first event that happens in the story of Jurassic Park. That's not a later event that we're seeing earlier. And what the movie did set me up for before 36 hours earlier was...
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hours earlier was I don't know. I thought we were going to be plopped into the middle of a killer chimp scenario as opposed to the chimp eventually becomes bad. Well, then it directly puts you against the monkey if you already weren't, right?
00:19:41
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You know people are with animals. Do you think you're supposed to be on side of the monkey in this or the chimp in this one? So I think that they want the audience to get a glimpse so that they can see why because the big question we're all like sitting here like how did this become somebody shoot this monkey somebody do something you guys are waiting for him to get more and more violent So basically, they want I think they want maybe the audience to kind of empathize with the people who take care and own the monkey.
00:20:19
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um lost my train of thought. Oh, I thought you were looking for the character names Lucy. No. ah Who's that person? And Aaron. um Those are the sisters? Yeah. Yeah. So basically, I do think that. Maybe that was done because they want us to kind of feel for them a little bit.
00:20:37
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You know, feel for the monkey a little bit, feel for the family. you know, this is a family. This is part of their family. It made me feel for the dad. Well, no, it made me really care about the dad's character and invest in him more, seeing their relationship with Ben.
00:20:53
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Because the dad is a away at like a book signing. I didn't even catch what the fuck his book was. um i actually want to look into the dad. honestly, didn't know either, so The dad, he is actually, I want to say he's an Oscar winning actor. He was in this movie Coda, but he actually is ah a deaf person in real life. And that's part of the reason why it was a big deal that he won the Oscar that he did. I think he was the first deaf actor to win an Academy Award. That's awesome. Yeah, and so it was cool. Actually, like when I saw him, I recognized him immediately, but I wanted to look it up now just before I threw out possibly incorrect information. But when I saw him in this, I was like, that's so cool. Like he got an Oscar and now he's in this just small horror film, this a little monk or a chimp horror film. I keep almost saying monkey. um
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And I did just realize this is a a Paramount film. Yeah. But no, so seeing that connection Ben had with the family really made me invest in the dad and hoping that he got home because I felt like there would be security and safety with the dad. Yeah, I really relied on him too.
00:22:08
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So should we kind of start it from the beginning? Walk through. We can kind run through the plot. You kind of mentioned how it, I mean, we don't have to go scene for scene or anything, but you kind of mentioned already how it starts. Yeah. So off bat, we got Dr. Lambert.
00:22:27
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What is he, an exotic vet or whatever? Yeah, he comes in to go check on Ben. He hasn't killed anybody at this point. We're seeing his first victim at the beginning of the movie, basically. Right.
00:22:41
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Yeah, he goes in and, i mean, we're in spoilers at this point. Ben has rabies. You did mention that earlier, so we're safe. I mentioned that. He said, let's get into it. We'll and do some spoilers. Yeah, he he has rabies. If we forget to mention throughout the plot, he was bit by a mongoose.
00:22:59
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And so that's why he's on this rampage. but What type of animal is a mongoose? I don't know. i meant look it Because in my mind, it was some sort of mammal animal. I think right? Yes, but like a large mammal.
00:23:13
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And in the movie, it's a small raccoon-looking, opossum-looking rodent. m Yeah, I've never seen a mongoose, or at least I don't think I i have.
00:23:29
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But ah yeah, this vet tech basically goes in see what's up with Ben, and he gets his face ripped off in a pretty horrifying sequence.
00:23:41
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This is part of, I mean, other things bite too, but it is, it's a mammal. It is carnivorous. This thing has the ability to hunt venomous snakes. Yeah, I knew that actually. yeah, a monkey has no chance, no chance against this little, is it related to the possum? It looks like it. Sorry, carry on.
00:24:02
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But yeah, so Ben rips off this vet's face. And one thing that... That was just very reminiscent of a news story that I remember hearing as a kid about this pet chimp that I think ripped their neighbor's face off and their neighbor had to get surgery to have their face put back on. And it was...
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ah just a deeply upsetting story. And part of me was kind of surprised that the movie would go there.
Real-life Chimp Incidents
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That is, it feels a little bit like low-hanging fruit. Too soon?
00:24:37
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ah Maybe a little too soon. It feels like low-hanging fruit. Like, okay, we're really going to just to play on the tragedy, like the one case people reference when it comes to why you shouldn't own a chimp.
00:24:50
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I feel like that's the big one people point to. Okay. Okay, yeah. But there have been other animal horror movies. So it's almost like it's safe now. I mean, no but just that. And I mean, Nope kind of does that. We just don't see the person's face get ripped off in Nope.
00:25:08
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ah Potential spoilers for Jordan Peele's Nope. I do got to say, even though Nope isn't a chimp movie, the chimp stuff in Nope was way more terrifying and way more disturbing than Primate, I will say. Have you seen Jordan Peele's Nope?
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I've seen Nope, but I must have not been paying attention because I don't know what you're talking about. I think the movie begins with it, but it's... ah Spoilers for Nope ahead, but Steven Yeun's character, the like cowboy guy in that movie who is putting on the show, you know who I'm talking about?
00:25:48
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We just saw him in a Sorry to Bother You last night, a movie that I love. I think Rocia thought it was just okay. um I don't remember exactly the words he used, but... I don't remember the movie.
00:26:03
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and You did fall asleep for the, like, back half of it. There you have it, folks. ah His character, there's scenes we keep cutting to where it's him. He was a kid actor on a TV show where he played alongside a chimp, and one day that chimp went, like, crazy.
00:26:21
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And we just see everybody like dead or brutalized on the set of the show while this kid's hiding, terrified under the table. And this chimp goes to fist bump the kid and he's got a bloody fist. And these people come in and shoot the chimp dead in front of this kid. You don't remember any of that. It's like a very disturbing moment. I remember that now.
00:26:42
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Yeah, it's deeply upsetting. Maybe it traumatizing. that That really fucked me up. Nope is one of the most upsetting movies I think I've seen in a very long time. So because it's been a while since I've seen it, I kind of wrote it off.
00:26:55
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Like trying to remember that scene, which I remember, but it's foggy. I don't connect it to what I remember from Nope. Like hearing that, I'm like, that's the same movie? Yeah, and there's more upsetting stuff in that movie, too. I got um i owe that movie a rewatch. It's probably my least favorite of the Peels. I probably owe it a rewatch, too, just to see what you're seeing in um the horror of it all.
00:27:24
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There's a lot. And I can tell you, there's some things that are implied that I'm just like, man. hate implied horror. It is not scary. You have to work really hard to make implied horror terrifying. don't think so. Like that cloud monster floating down and you hear people's screams and it's like, what the fuck is that? And then later you see the scene of them getting abducted and they're digesting alive inside of that thing. They look like they were just moving. No, they're digesting alive in there. And so when that thing is flying and you're hearing the people screaming, that's people just digesting inside of it. But then you see them, right? Don't you see them and they're just like being moved around?
00:28:02
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i don't remember them being like chopped up or pulled apart. No, I assume they're probably like frying in like some type of yeah body acid or something. Yeah, I would have rewatched. They're digesting alive inside that thing.
00:28:16
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Yeah, nope. They're up there. All right. Okay. What now? Yeah, no, nope is a very upsetting movie, I think. But and like I was saying, the chimp stuff, I i think is way more effective in that movie than this. But the crowd pleaser, this movie, nonetheless.
00:28:32
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But I guess, yeah, we can kind of hop into a little bit more of the plot. So, like we said, it starts off with Dr. Lambert, the exotic vet who goes to basically give Ben the antibiotic because the rabies that he has contracted from the mongoose, which at this point we don't know, they have to treat it within 48 hours.
00:28:56
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Otherwise, you become crazy. So, I like the way this movie, like... tells you things later on because you're like how the heck is everybody so okay and like moving slow i get it's hawaii everything's chill they're like island time but to me i'm like y'all are a little too chill the dad comes to the table at some point in the scene i'm skipping a little bit ahead here before everything goes to shit the two daughters are sitting at the table eating like breakfast or whatever
00:29:27
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And he comes in and drops the mongoose, the dead mongoose, on the breakfast table in a, not even a biohazard bag, just like a giant Ziploc bag. And at that point, we're like,
00:29:39
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that's nasty. Also, you're telling me to it bit the chimp. At this point, we're all like, okay, you should probably treat that chimp right now. At this point, I feel like the audience is already ahead of its characters. where Yeah. Some of these characters should be ah talking about the possibility of rabies. But the dad said there's no rabies in Hawaii. and And that, did you know that? I didn't know that. I don't know if that's true. But then he sends that in a text and the response is like, okay, thank you for your expertise, doctor, or whatever. And I was like... Oh, yeah, the lab. Well, I was like, is that a sarcastic text message? That was 100% sarcastic. It felt very sarcastic. That was definitely sarcastic, yeah. How are we supposed to know? The movie, that's a weird way. Because people don't speak like that.
00:30:28
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Well, we, I feel like that's something people talk about in real life. Like it's hard to read sarcasm in a text message. And it's weird to do that in a movie. If I said something to someone regarding, I don't know, something about their job and then they responded, thank you for your expertise.
00:30:46
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Yeah, that's sarcasm. Well, i didn't know if this is not guy is a vet. Hold on. Is this guy a vet? What does he do for a job? The dad? Yeah. No, he's a writer.
00:30:57
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Well, is he a writer? This seems like it's his first book. He seems like he doesn't know his way around a fucking book signing. This lady's got to hold his hand and be like, what do you doing? You're going to blow this. I'm like, is this movie presupposing that just deaf people are dumb or something? Oh my gosh, Nick. No, he is stressed because you back to the daughters. seems pretty clueless.
00:31:19
Speaker
Just know there's a whole thing with the daughters and him not being around and being as present as they would like. So like, Lucy comes home from college, right? And she's also not present either. In what way? What do you mean?
00:31:35
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She's been away for a while, at right? Doesn't her sister say something about how she's been away for a while? Yeah, I thought she was at college. Oh, maybe she went to college and never came home yeah on breaks and shit like that. Maybe that's the case. They didn't clarify, like, what. Maybe they did and I missed it.
00:31:55
Speaker
But, like, he is just feeling kind of guilty. So his brain, like, his mind is just not there during the whole time. From the first, like, Zoom meeting we saw, he was trying to get off the Zoom. He shut that computer down to try to pay attention to his daughters. And he's like, I'm so sorry. I have to go to this thing. I absolutely have to. But I will be back as soon as possible. And we're going to I'll figure out what we're going to do. We're going fun.
00:32:22
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We're going to do something. So. That's part of why he's off. But again, the chillness. And the lack of urgency, whether rabies is on the island or not.
00:32:37
Speaker
My guy, your chimp got bit hardcore. i don't know if you saw the bite or whatever by something, something carnivorous. No, I would just be less chill. I think if it was like my cat. He does say that Ben got bit by the mongoose.
00:32:55
Speaker
And yeah, that's why the vet comes and checks him out. Yeah, when he it on the table. And then they sent the mongoose in for testing. And then when he got the result, when he was at the signing, it's like, yeah, weird. Positive for rabies. He's like, nah, can't be. There's no rabies in Hawaii. And...
00:33:11
Speaker
She was like, um well, it's positive, but sure, we'll test it again. Because what do we know? Yeah. And I mean, even before this chimp gets aggro, he's already kind of weirding people out and creeping them out. So, like, along with Lucy and her sister and the dad who eventually leaves, it's their friend Kate, their friend Nick, and this girl Hannah, who Lucy, like, hates or something like that. She's not too happy about Hannah being there.
00:33:44
Speaker
And there's two guys that they meet on their fucking plane ride over to Hawaii
Audience Reactions and Expectations
00:33:50
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or something. Two little douchey college students that try to, like, flirt with them. You didn't think they were super cool in the best part of the movie?
00:33:57
Speaker
I thought that they were going to end up as bait. You know what? I was like really hoping this movie was going to subvert my expectations and do something so fun.
00:34:11
Speaker
And these two walk in and they're drunk and they seem like they're annoying idiots. And I kind of wanted them to come in. No, but I'm saying I want them to like, I thought it would be fun if they give off this impression, almost like um an old Jackie Chan movie or something where it's like, oh, man, these guys aren't capable of holding their own. And they walk in and then they totally go toe to toe with the chimp. I didn't want them to beat the chimp, but I wanted them to actually like fight the chimp in some kind of substantial way and then be killed and maybe have it be a funny thing where them being drunk kind of plays into it. But they do really just get brutalized. Even like the black kid who's there, I thought he like he sees the shovel. I was like, yeah, we're going to get a fight scene. And he just gets fucking his face smashed in too.
00:35:04
Speaker
It would have been nice to see that, too. I agree. Would have been nice because we from the beginning are like, these guys are doofuses, dumb and dumber, like complete idiots, beavis and butthead. Like we don't like them. So it would have been a nice turnaround. It would have been some brownie points or something.
00:35:23
Speaker
I wanted them to be like, subvert the expectation, make you think, oh, this movie is setting you up to hate these guys. And then by the end, you just fall in love with them for a second before they die. But they kind of just make them irredeemable and scummy from the whole ah time. They're kind of just undesirable characters.
00:35:44
Speaker
very undesirable and you know in every good movie you have to have some undesirables i mean i would argue that most of these characters except for the dad are pretty undesirable would do you like would you say you like any of these characters
00:36:05
Speaker
You see, you like Lucy and Kate, right? i know i Remember earlier when I said though the the behaviors of some character? Just pissed me off. Just... Ugh, I can't even really get into it. I can't.
00:36:19
Speaker
No. One... The one I did appreciate... Well, this the get into it. The one that I did appreciate... Um... um Ended up doing something else stupid. The friend. Who's the friend? Hannah?
00:36:32
Speaker
Is that her name? Hannah. The one who makes it out to the car. Hannah. Yeah, the one who makes it out the car. She won me over by the end of it. I was like, yeah, Hannah, you're finally doing... Even though she had her flubs, I was like, you're fucking making it out here. Go.
00:36:46
Speaker
And when she died, i was like, okay, this movie can't even give you that. This movie is just... one of those horror movies where we're going to get down to the final girl, basically, or the final two girls, final Yeah, thought it may have been a final girl. I'm not going to lie. Well, they basically did that, but it's like the final sisters, the final family. Just only the family survives. And...
00:37:08
Speaker
I am a little tired of that in horror where we're just going to whittle everybody down to the core characters or the one character. Give me a little surprise in there. You know, make it like Alien. The surprise of that, spoilers for Alien, like 50, almost 50 year old movie, something like that.
00:37:31
Speaker
Like Ripley making it to the end, she's not like set up as the main character. ah There's she's not the leader of the crew. I like it when you kind of end up with some oddballs at the end, not the most expected characters. The sister gets injured, but she just becomes dead weight throughout the whole thing. Doesn't really do much. Kind of a non-contributor.
Escalating Violence and Suspense
00:37:54
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She is very much. ah She has just a few lines in this pretty great gig. So I do want to talk a little bit more about Ben because Ben is not a regular chimp. He ain't no regular pet monkey. He's half human. He's half human. He's an AI. He's actually their like third child. um The there as in obviously the dad and the mother who has passed. So he is a single dad. um
00:38:22
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The mother apparently was a linguist. And that's how come Ben is able to understand English. He has a special tablet formulated and he speaks through the tablet and understands. Like, it's wild. We've seen this before. it' It's a real thing. I actually imagine their mom being Amy Adams from Arrival.
00:38:46
Speaker
I am not picturing that white woman right now. i can't. so It may be who I'm thinking of. You don't have the patience? No, I just don't know who that is. For sure.
00:38:57
Speaker
Like if someone came to mind, but I don't think it's the right Amy come to mind. Fair enough. But um yeah. So mom's, you know, no longer with them.
00:39:08
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Ben, it's ah it's like even it makes the family bond even more. They've lost a family member. You know, they're tighter knit almost like obviously Lucy was having a hard time with it. buth blah Whatever. So Ben is very intelligent. Someone in your family, you become a tighter unit.
00:39:25
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When someone passes, you either get tighter or you get looser. You know? Mm-hmm. So, um yeah. So, Ben is a very, very intelligent primate.
00:39:37
Speaker
Ben can do so much. And throughout the movie, as Ben gets more rabid, you may forget that. Depending on what you think rabies um displays like...
00:39:52
Speaker
You may forget that Ben is intelligent because he's like going crazy. You're like, how can somebody with intelligence and logic be? Well, this is a monkey with rabies.
00:40:02
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OK, foaming at the mouth, which is absolutely crazy. Please. It's a chimp. It's. Oh, I'm so sorry. It's a chimp. It's monkey. We have a lot of chimp listeners. I'm it all interchangeably. They play this podcast at zoos, chimp exhibits.
00:40:18
Speaker
I don't recommend that. And if you are doing that, where are my checks? Anyway, so he's very intelligent. And we see that.
00:40:29
Speaker
We forget that. But then we start to see it more and more as he kills. Like at some point, they, you know, Lucy's like at the sliding door and has it locked. It's not Lucy, it's Hannah. Has it locked?
00:40:44
Speaker
It's one of them. See how they're like mixed. My guess would be Lucy because, well, I don't remember. Exactly. See, you say one and then you're like, no, but I can. Because I thought Hannah was the sister at first. And I was like, well, no. It is a short, dark hair friend. So, well, she's barely holding the door. And, you know, Ben's like trying to wiggle it like, you know, wiggle the handle open. Like a dumb chimp would. And then he gets upset. Yeah. Starts banging on the glass. Gets upset. Like, oh, I can't open it. As expected. Dumb, emotional chimp. As you would think. But then it's almost like you remember at the same time that Ben remembers who Ben is. Not so dumb and emotional after all. Ben's like, wait a fucking minute here.
00:41:28
Speaker
I have rabies. Okay. I am the Hulk in this situation. You think that Ben is like, let me back up real quick because I'm about to bust through this window. And that's exactly what he did. He's like you you think you're going to hold me back? I could just break it.
00:41:43
Speaker
So he did. um a really gnarly moment that I hated for Hannah is that she took the wrong car keys when she went to run out to escape because she finally escaped.
00:41:55
Speaker
I feel like we're missing like a huge part of this. But basically Ben toys with people. yeah knows. We forget that he's intelligent. And then it like almost like comes out more and more and more as the rabies progressed.
00:42:10
Speaker
Yeah, he it's like he screams it's like he's seen Scream 5 before. and he Because this bit is in Scream 5 where they there's this back and forth of locking, ah not the car, it's a house, but locking wherever you're in and the person trying to get you from the outside is unlocking it and you're in this back and forth. But then Ben decides to go through the trunk and get them, which I felt like... Literally everybody in the theater was like, oh.
00:42:39
Speaker
Yeah, I felt like I saw that in another movie. And maybe I'm thinking of weapons, a moment like that. But I felt like recently I had seen something like that where a killer went through the back of ah the car to get somebody. But yeah, she goes into the wrong car.
00:42:56
Speaker
that that was ah That was heartbreaking. I wanted her to get out. but But Ben kills her by smashing her chest in. Yes, she was calling 911, but did she plan to leave everybody? Because let's rewind a little bit.
00:43:13
Speaker
These girls are stuck. She was going to go get help or something. I felt like she had a plan. Yeah, I'll tell you what I think about the potential plan. So these people are stuck. They basically are hanging around the pool, all of the teens.
00:43:28
Speaker
And that is when they you know Ben comes down and he starts really acting um aggressively. They end up going into the pool, jumping into the pool because they're like, Ben is literally attacking us. We don't know what's going on, but he can't swim. Now, the thing with rabies, they like define it in the beginning of the movie as a hydrophobia, just fear of water animals go insane. I actually meant to look that up because surprisingly, I don't know too much about rabies, just treatment wise. Were you saying rabies makes them afraid of water?
00:44:02
Speaker
Right. I thought ben they were just saying in general, Ben was afraid of water. Which what I was going to say Ben can't swim is what they're saying, but they're not also connecting that the rabies makes him. That's why he like kind of breaks at the pool also, right? Like he gets down to the pool. He's looking at the water at some point. There's a scene where the camera's below the water and like you're looking at Ben and he's like getting irate.
00:44:29
Speaker
and So they don't actually say that's why they don't say that the water is triggering him but that is the thing. In the beginning of the movie, in the definition, it says it. It says that. Okay. Wow. That's good that picked up the definition. It was the definition of hydrophobia, actually.
00:44:48
Speaker
Which, um, because it used to be called, think it, I don't know. I'd have to look it up. But, They're like now also known as rabies or whatever in the beginning. So he gets pretty irate.
00:45:02
Speaker
That's part of another reason he will avoid the water, which technically keeps them safe. So they're all hanging out in the pool and basically trying to escape the pool as best as they can when Ben is distracted, you know, killing everybody, including those two funky ass college boys that actually showed up.
00:45:24
Speaker
Well, so you mentioned them getting stuck in the water, actually. And when we were in the spoiler-free section, that's kind of what I was talking about when I was saying this movie gets stuck in a cycle of its own creation. They almost make the water as like this free base, like they're playing tag or something. And water the water's this free spot where this antagonist, this villain, can't touch them.
00:45:54
Speaker
And it did kind of bother me at a point where the, that they had this safe spot because it didn't feel like a true haunted house. Some type of thing is hunting you down the creature feature type of movie, because whenever they would get caught in a situation, they would just cycle back to the pool. So it was like in the pool, out of pool, the pool, out the pool, out of the pool.
00:46:20
Speaker
You know what I mean? Some characters were stuck in the pool. It added some strategy to it, though, which is nice because you're you're as the audience, you're like, I mean, the whole movie's not going to play out. You're not going to stay and die in this pool, are you?
00:46:35
Speaker
Let's see how you get out of such a sucky situation. How did Aaron not die in that pool? Not just any pool, but the one side of the pool is literally off a cliff. Yeah. Which I don't know why people build houses like this. But so it's I mean, it was life or death anyway. But there's another layer to it because you are literally stuck in a pool. One side, there's a killer monkey. The other side, there's a cliff. Well, there was a point where, too, that monkey was on the edge of that cliff. And I was thinking, man, if they just had a pool volleyball or something, they could just like spike it right at that monkey. Or, you know, those, um, the pool cleaners, the long nets, they could have grabbed one. There were so many ways to prevent all these deaths in here. I'm not saying that I would have done any better in this situation. Well, look, we're watching the trailer right now. Not a pool cleaner in sight around this pool. They have ropes for some reason. What the fuck are going to do with a Do rich people not have their own neck? Do they just hire the pool cleaners and the pool cleaners bring their own equipment?
00:47:36
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. You'd think that would be right next to the pool. But the Nick character, I think, is the first one, aside from the vet to actually He had all of the good ideas. Every good idea in the beginning to try to get rid of this primate came from him. So he's the first to actually die, though. The sister, Erin, she gets bit right before they enter the pool. And that, I think, is kind of what makes them go into the pool, like one of their decisions. But right when they enter it, she gets bit, and she's bleeding out.
00:48:11
Speaker
And then Nick, I think one of them, I think it might have been Nick, has the idea to get him over to the ledge to try and push him out off. But ah Ben ends up yanking Nick and throwing him over the ledge. And his like face gets smashed. And I like flinched when that happened. Worse than that. You had a reaction. Because it wasn't his face that got smashed. Well, by by the chimp, I don't know. It was he landed off of that cliff.
00:48:39
Speaker
And you heard him scream all the way down and everything. And you thought maybe he was going to land in the water. Well, he didn't. He landed on rocks um head first. And so you were able to see and hear the crunch and the bend of the neck in the break. And it was ooh it was gnarly.
00:48:57
Speaker
It's pretty gnarly. Yeah, i felt like our audience, I could hear them react when he died. that like group The next to me laughed when I laughed. Uncomfortably.
00:49:10
Speaker
The group of people that you were accusing of being loud, um it felt like they gasped or screamed when that guy, when he like the impact happened on the ground.
00:49:21
Speaker
think there was a consensual gasp. Everybody was like... weve When have you seen a death like that?
00:49:31
Speaker
You know, we see a lot of smashing, stabbing, shooting. We see people splatting, but he didn't even splat. A splat almost would have been less gruesome than what we did see. After he dies, um i think, I don't know who dies first, Hannah or Kate, but Kate gets, yeah, she, Kate gets, like, cornered or stuck. She falls down the stairs, actually, and I remember, like, my body hurt when I saw her fall down the stairs. Do you remember what I'm talking about? I do, yeah, because her, ah she sucked. thiss She didn't suck, sorry. Her death sucked because she was um trying just trying to get away, and he got her ankles. Yeah. So what does he do exactly to Kate? um he
00:50:14
Speaker
and ends up smashing her head in with like a rock, a giant rock that he finds somewhere. I don't know why he didn't use his hands. He used his hands everywhere else. Yeah, he does Hannah in when they're in the car with his hands. And I felt like she unnecessarily got it the worst, which kind of made me think that the movie is supposed to think that we're supposed to hate her.
00:50:38
Speaker
Well, actually, maybe the boy got it the worst. was like, she did not get it the worst. Well, she gets kind of scalped beginning. Somebody had their entire jaw ripped off, and then that monkey snacked on it. Yeah, but Hannah gets kind of scalped at the beginning.
00:50:51
Speaker
i And I don't know. It felt like the movie was kind of saying that we're supposed to like her the least out of this friend group because of how bad that she gets it.
00:51:01
Speaker
Along with those two boys, they get it pretty bad, too. I will say, I guess the jaw has to be the worst death in this movie. Well, getting your face ripped off is pretty horrifying, too, that fat guy. And he really didn't have any of that coming.
00:51:15
Speaker
Yeah, he I mean, everybody was mostly unsuspecting, but he definitely was the most unsuspecting. However, as a professional who deals with these exotic animals and like dealing with potential rabies, like you knew you were going in to give preventative treatment for rabies.
00:51:38
Speaker
What? It wasn't even preventative. You knew that he was bit. And then there was either he knew about the positive test or he knew that he just was bitten. Did he think he had more time for the rabies to take hold?
00:51:52
Speaker
Possibly because the 48 hours was like a big deal to mention. And I'm assuming that at some point maybe I missed it, but maybe they were cutting it close to the time. And that's why I was saying they weren't taking it as serious as quickly. Like the dad wasn't taking it as serious as quick. And I was like, maybe it's just a chill thing. Maybe because he doesn't think rabies is on, you know, on the island or whatever. But they weren't as fast.
00:52:20
Speaker
And the vet strolling in like that, knowing what he's treat about to treat, not knowing that he's rabid, but knowing what he's about to treat. I would have thought to maybe come in with a little more protection in a way. He was wearing a Hawaiian shirt and some cargo shorts.
00:52:38
Speaker
yeah One thing I kind of didn't buy, too, is the vet being dead is what alerts them to something really being wrong with Ben. that There's the bloody bear that they find, too.
00:52:51
Speaker
But the vet guy... They call his phone and they hear it from so far away in the enclosure. And I was just thinking, I don't think you'd be able to hear that phone. What are the chances it wouldn't just be on vibrate too? I know, right? Who who keeps their w ringer on, honestly?
00:53:13
Speaker
Yeah. am imagine own Speaking of that, who keeps their ringer on My phone went off in this movie. So it's so ironic that I just said that bullshit. Like, who keeps their ringer on? And I mean, speaking of things making noises, these people were making noises every two seconds throughout the movie. By these people, I mean the characters. But they kept every opportunity. They would step on something. They would, you know, bump into something that would make noise, like turning on the TV or a bad phone call would happen.
00:53:46
Speaker
Well, they they weren't noise restricted. Only when they were sneaking around the house, I guess, and they didn't want the gym to hear. But outside. no that's in general. Like whenever they were trying to be sneaky, they would always bump in or like cause the loudest noise. Have you never seen like Scooby-Doo and stuff? That's what you do when you're sneaking around. You make the noise. make the loudest noise ever.
00:54:11
Speaker
You constantly accidentally turn TVs on that are on volume 100 or something. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, I was reading hydrophobic and unable to swim. That's why Ben watches the group and stalks the perimeter of the pool. um There are so many opportunities to, you know, cut cut Ben short.
00:54:34
Speaker
after the two failed attempts from Nick, one of them, I think it was Nick that asked like, you guys don't have a gun here here in the house? Like you don't have a gun? I do remember asking that. I was like, yeah, let's, somebody go get the gun.
00:54:47
Speaker
We end this right now. No, that's our family. He's pet. Well, you're is him or you, bro. Oh, yeah. You don't get that. Hannah was talking about putting him down. You will. You have to kill him now. I did kind of think I will say i was thinking, OK, this Hannah chick, she's jumping the gun a little too quickly. You're going to killing him after one incident.
00:55:13
Speaker
That's a bit extreme. Yeah, eventually. By the time we're in the pool and this thing is really trying to get us, that's when I'd be like, okay, we need to put this thing down. By the time he's yeah villainously hitting the screen saying, die, die, die. i And that's where the intelligence kind of comes back in too. You're like, oh yeah, this monkey isn't. So now you're doing it on purpose.
00:55:37
Speaker
What part of, you can't like tap into the part of your brain that used to love these folks, Ben? You just want them to die? you know, I don't know a whole lot about rabies, but ah do they make you really want to just go after everybody you love in that kind of way? i know they make you mean and aggressive, but do they make you go on a killing spree?
00:56:03
Speaker
Does rabies make animals go on a killing spree? Yeah, like when's the last time you've heard the family dog gets rabies and murdered the whole family, like slaughtered them, bodies spread across the whole property. in a while. It happened creative ways. The dog used weapons. Jesus, the dog. Yeah.
00:56:22
Speaker
Well, we haven't taught the dog the things that Ben knows quite yet, right? Yeah. And also, aren't we close to... price I mean, you never know. not really You watched a video of dogs like scaling buildings. You had to teach... that Someone had to teach the dog that. What if it's one of those dogs? Oh, you know what I just discovered?
00:56:41
Speaker
The hydrophobia part of rabies? It's something that happens in late-stage infection. Mm-hmm. And... it says It's referring to a person. So the big thing that we're we've kind of skipped over is with this rabies, people can get it too.
00:56:58
Speaker
And so far, he has scratched the crap out of Erin, the younger sister girl. Well, you only get it through kissing. It's the kissing disease, if I'm correct. Nobody's kissing raccoons. I'm not kidding. I think I'm thinking of mono, mononucleosis.
00:57:15
Speaker
Yeah, sure. or sharing sodas. yeah one time I got it from sharing a soda because when I got a positive test in the doctor's office with my mom, I said, I know who gave it to me. I wasn't out here kissing nobody. i just wanted a great pop.
00:57:31
Speaker
Anyway, rabies is contagious. It's contagious. oh yeah and um there was this My big frame of reference for rabies is the Scrubs episode that was like very sad and deep that centered around Dr. Cox losing a whole bunch of patients.
00:57:50
Speaker
And that's when they drop the line, like in that Scrubs episode, they say something about there's only like, I think, six reported rabies cases a year. And that's when I turned to you in the theater and said, after ah Aaron gets bit, I said, there's only six reported rabies cases a year. So if she doesn't report it, I think she'll be good. Yeah, I thought you were going to say something almost like helpful, and then you're like, all she has to do is not report it.
00:58:18
Speaker
Boy. Yeah. sir Yeah, yeah, I guess. Technically. Do you want to learn a little bit more about rabies? Or should I like shut the hell up about rabies? No, you can give some more facts about rabies, and then we can kind of get into the end of this thing. So more so on the human side, because...
00:58:39
Speaker
Animals are a little bit different, but obviously we don't want either one getting rabies. But the hydrophobia doesn't really translate the same to humans because it's not the fear of water. It's the increase in salivation that happens or increase in saliva that happens.
00:58:58
Speaker
There's throat irritation. There's throat spasms that are really painful, like in the larynx. So when you like try to drink anything, that pain occurs. And so the person's like, I can't drink anything, which actually helps the virus because the virus thrives in your cell saliva.
00:59:16
Speaker
So the more you salivate, the more the virus is like braiding. It loves it. And then you as a human bite somebody. That's how they get it, too. And then that's how quarantine happens. Not rec, though. They change it for quarantine. I'm pretty sure it's rabies in that one.
00:59:34
Speaker
Do you notice how um Ben was foaming at the mouth? Uh, no, not really. Was he at certain points? So it got progressively more and more. And I liked how, like, a lot of the scenes with Ben is so dark.
00:59:48
Speaker
It's pretty dark. You can't truly see his face. Sometimes you don't even see the scars and cuts and stuff. Yeah. But. It's good for hiding a person in a suit. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But he starts salivating more and more and more. It's just gooey and goopy. So earlier when you mentioned the suit, my first thought was CGI. Then I'm like, no, this is not CGI. It's a little too sloppy.
01:00:12
Speaker
And then I'm like, maybe it is a person in the suit, but if they did movie magic and it's like a regular size suit but then camera angles I don't know but the more he started salivating the more gross it got the faker that monkey mask looked I didn't notice the foaming at the mouth I'm kind of disappointed that I didn't pick up on that it was very gooey and very realistic it wasn't even a foam it was just like gooey saliva, which was definitely more realistic. It was interesting. Realistic, ironically, again, because it started to look more and more like a Chuck E. Cheese type of monkey. Animatronic. Yeah. it was Oh, my gosh. I did appreciate the old school monkey suit because it reminded me of the Planet of the Apes movies from the 60s and 70s.
01:01:02
Speaker
It's too bad we're in 2026. Why is that? You said something about the 60s. So I said, too bad we're in 2026 because we should be beyond that. You know, we should be more advanced on the monkey suits. Well, I would say this is a more advanced than what they had in Planet of the Apes. The Planet of the Apes one didn't look as good as this. But it does make like see the zippers in the back. it yeah I'll show you some pictures. They look like rubber masks, kind of. They look like they'd be very hot to wear. Yeah.
01:01:29
Speaker
But... i It did make me think, like you know, this mocapp these mocap Planet of the Apes movies are pretty cool, but what if we went back to just dudes in suits and did that for a little bit? Wouldn't that be kind of fun? No.
01:01:46
Speaker
no No. Nobody? Just me? Okay. I know Doug is listening to this ah six months from now when the movie's on Amazon Prime HBO And he's like, yep, he was right. Yep. I agree with that statement.
01:02:00
Speaker
Yeah, man. and You want to hop into the back half of this thing or do you have more rabies facts? No, that's the important part. All right. So to kind of like bring this thing around to the end, the dad eventually makes it home after blowing his opportunity at the book
Climax and Conclusion Analysis
01:02:18
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signing. His PR person is like, don't blow this.
01:02:21
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But he like can't hear because he's deaf. I don't know why she's not signing it to him. Because she can't sign. There's an interpreter. And he wasn't looking at not one of them. He said, I'm out.
01:02:32
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I don't give a fuck what you're saying because I quite literally can't hear you. The interpreter didn't sign don't blow this to him. Might have. Didn't look at him or her or whatever. Yeah. I didn't catch what the big opportunity was. Did you?
01:02:44
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Something about the novel. I don't know. Definitely. we I didn't care because at that point I was like, get the fuck home. What is his dad's name even? Get the home. Get the home. Adam.
01:02:57
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Get the home. Get the home, Adam. him Adam, yeah. who told you to go and buy this whatever million dollar home off a cliff? Off a cliff. There's no other home around. That's part of why they all were going to die. And why did he bought? Oh, the wife had the chimp. Yeah, because she was a linguist. I'm like, and why does he need a chimp? No, seriously. Yeah, because it's so infuriating. You're like, why is this even happening? Yeah. How irresponsible is this? But I forgot. Yeah. His wife is a linguist.
01:03:25
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um yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he eventually makes it home and whatever. He like, I mean, I would see the dead boy in my daughter's body and be like, oh, she had a boy over. OK, what the fuck? In the bed. Remember? justine Yeah, she had Justin Bieber over.
01:03:42
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And then he got his jaw ripped off. That kid doesn't have a jaw, which brings me to a question I was just thinking I want to ask you. What was your favorite kill? My favorite kill was probably the m It's got to be the vet, maybe.
01:04:01
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Classic. Face rip off the bat. Get her done. I don't know why. And not because of the face getting ripped off in general, but I felt like... It was a very well shot sequence, him kind of coming out of the dark and just forcing the audience to look at the face slowly getting ripped off.
01:04:22
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That worked for me. The effects looked really good too in that moment. So that would probably be my favorite. The jaw getting ripped off was just too, you really had to sit there and take that one in, ah which which would be your favorite your favorite though. You definitely know it's the jaw one because... Because he was Justin Bieber.
01:04:44
Speaker
Why do you keep calling this man Justin Bieber? This man is nowhere close to JB. Don't even disrespect JB like that. He looks like a young Justin Bieber. Please stop disrespecting Justin Bieber. Oh my God. ah i'm gonna I was never even a JB stan, but I have respect for good artistry and you're disrespecting JB right now. I'm so sorry.
01:05:03
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To all the believers out there. um Anyway, my favorite. I didn't criticize his music or anything. I just said this guy looked like Justin Bieber. I didn't even say Justin Bieber looks like him. Yeah.
01:05:13
Speaker
Well, Justin Bieber, it's still an insult because this guy looks like a booty hole. ah Wow. So that's what I'm saying. You're you're missing what i'm getting at. Justin Bieber's booty hole.
01:05:25
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You know what? Close enough. Better. Better. than the face anyway my favorite gill was definitely the jaw rip um i did not like the way gonna get detailed here the way the skin looked stretching off because i don't think that's i don't think flesh opens and peels like rubber does when you're pulling it apart i could be wrong i've never ripped anybody's jaw off so i could be totally wrong You think it would tear like paper kind of? I think it would ah it would tear almost like ah you know when you give birth and you have that type of tear. It's very irregular. It's jagged. But it's it's like so you you have elasticity in your skin, but like it's going to snap. It's not going pull like that. I don't know. I could be wrong. No, I know what you mean. It's fucking gross think about. think also being dental, you you didn't enjoy that very much. But that's just like, it's just so messed up because he didn't die right away, which also I appreciate because let's be realistic.
01:06:31
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People don't typically die instantly from most of these injuries. i feel like you mentioned that recently. We recently saw something where somebody's jaw got ripped off. It might not have even been recently. It might have been when we were watching Smile 2 because somebody crowbars their jaw off. And I think you said that wouldn't kill somebody. Not right away, at least, you know, because you would have blood loss that would eventually kill you. But this this kid lost his jaw.
01:06:58
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You know, gargling on his blood. That's most likely what took him out faster than the blood loss is the asphyxiation. so maybe some aspiration in there. Yeah, that probably got him faster.
01:07:14
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Upsetting. Than the jaw itself and the blood loss. Yeah. But the dad basically makes it home and he ends up killing Ben. He pushes him off the balcony and Ben gets impaled or something after like a little bit of a fight. But my mind's a little fuzzy on the fight and how those how that went down. So he Ben was you know slamming.
01:07:38
Speaker
adam's head on the ground at some point we thought that he really did kill adam but then he came back busted a wine bottle stabbed ben um in the chest and we thought that was the end of ben yeah ben didn't die and then that's when he got thrown over but answer me this of all the things in the house of any anything around you only one person obtained an actual weapon to swing at ben and that was um one of the frat guys that came in i think their names were brad and brad and chad i don't fucking know anyway one of them
01:08:19
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His death was by shovel, which was like the only weapon around. The monkey ends up turning the shovel on him. They don't show us how it happened, I don't think. They don't even really show us like his gruesome death.
01:08:33
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They show the bottom half of him in that. And then Adam ends up using that same shovel, but then breaks it. So nobody has weapons and nobody's able to use anything around them as a weapon is what kind of also bothered me. Everybody is totally incapable throughout this whole movie. And like, that's kind of what I meant by they don't really do anything interesting with the setting or where they are. There's so many things they could be using as a weapon. And yeah, maybe it's, this is a lower budget thing, even though you said 20 million, that doesn't sound, that sounds way more expensive than this thing should have been. It said 21 to 24. I don't know why it's a range, but yeah. Yeah, Paramount just threw a bunch of money at this thing. I feel like this could have been a lot lower in the budget area. But nobody at any point uses anything as a weapon, grabs anything for self-defense. There's the moment where they're up top on the balcony and when he grabs the shovel... I'm looking around and I see a fucking grill right there. One that looks like it has wheels in my mind. I'm thinking you grab the grill, you get it in front of you because there's a point where someone does that with a like woven chair or wooden chair. They get it in front of them and they're using it as a shield. I'm like, you grab the grill and you just run and shove them off the balcony on the other end of that grill. Just run them right off. But people don't get creative, which makes me think, are the writers just not thinking that? I honestly, when I first saw that cliff too, my first thought, and I think I turned to you to say like, oh, I wonder if that's going to be Ben's demise, like that cliff. Because the way they showed it, it was almost like foreshadowing. But no, it was foreshadowing for somebody to die off of it.
01:10:20
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But just once. yeah They didn't utilize that too many times. You do kind of know immediately, like there's a wide shot that's all over the trailer where you see- Yeah. the Them in the pool. Something's going to happen here. Yeah. Somebody's going to go tumbling off this thing. That was a nice predictor. But I really thought it was going to be Ben. And so early on when he was on the pool edge, I was like, oh, they're about to wrap this up right now. They're going to toss him off. Yeah. Sure. I didn't know we were watching a short film. Right. i was like, that's it.
01:10:51
Speaker
Cool. Great story so far. Awesome. i wonder what happens next. Does another monkey come in? Is there another one? The mongoose comes in. But also, can we, like, figure out how the hell did rabies get to an island they were there were no rabies on?
01:11:06
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Yeah, I thought that they were going to touch on that in some kind of way. Would have turned into another Jurassic Park somehow. Yeah, the movie just doesn't explain. I thought they were maybe going to set up something where there's other animals have rabies and this is going to be a problem now.
01:11:23
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Primate 2, even though the primate's dead now. like Literally, he kills everybody and then like stands on the ledge and just does the monkey thing. And then you hear other monkeys say, across Hawaii is that crazy that's too much he does the monkey thing King Kong is I think the most famous for beating on his chest Donkey Kong maybe the second most it's like the Batman symbol but he's summoning other monkeys that are also pets And just to top it off, he does a very human thing from Georgia the Jungle. He's like, oh. That's literally what I was thinking about That's the call. Yeah. He has to beat his chest and that's the call. Yeah. Oh, man. That would have been a better ending. What we got is...
01:12:07
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Lucy's walking away as her sister's being carted into an ambulance and the police are pressing the button and they say, Lucy bad or something. And she's like, is he still alive? She looks around like, is he alive? Like her heart skips a beat. No, of course he's not fucking still alive. what you think? He came back after being stabbed by a wine bottle. that made they They made it seem like this ship cannot die for all the stuff that happened to him.
01:12:32
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It's a lot of the things that he did to others, but they died. He's the Michael Myers of chimps. Yeah, I didn't know that we were going into that type of movie. The the Invincible Chimp. That would have been a good title the movie. I thought George. Curious George is the Invincible Chimp? That's what I thought apparently it's been. Mm-hmm.
01:12:49
Speaker
I can see it. So... You had a complaint about the sister being put in the i have several complaints about the ending of the movie because, you know, i just, I do appreciate and enjoy medical accuracy. um Nick thinks that the type of medical consulting that I have heard and seen on film and shows doesn't actually exist. But this is a reason why they should use medical consultants that they don't already.
01:13:17
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The people, the ambulance is finally here. The police finally shows up. In the way that I described it. Oh, okay. In the way that I talked to you about it. um The ambulance shows up. The police shows up. They're, you know, getting everybody.
01:13:31
Speaker
The little one, Erin, was the one that was hurt the most. She probably lost a ton of blood in this pool. Don't know how she's... Not in shock and hypovolemic. And I think she is.
01:13:44
Speaker
Typically, that's what they would like immediately go to look and treat for and whatnot. Stop the bleeding and all that. No blanket. This girl just spent I don't know how many hours in a pool bleeding out.
Critique of Emergency Response and Technology
01:13:56
Speaker
They put her in an ambulance with no blanket. Are you crazy? I understand this is Hawaii. but I promise you she's cold. What kind of treatment is that? So unrealistic. They didn't have time to grab a blanket. They got a 911 call and they didn't know where they were going. you know how long took? about They don't know where they were going. They were like, we don't have an address. We can't grab a blanket. No, let's talk about how she called Hannah from the car before she got killed, called from a cell phone. They're like, what's the address? She's like, i don't know. Can't you track it? I'm going to need some landmarks. The world's worst 911 operator. Girl, because this... Who is he?
01:14:31
Speaker
What is he doing? Girl, if you don't call the police, if you don't get the police over here, ask me 21 questions later. Who is he? who Who is this he that you're talking And then you have to make her sound crazy. You force her to sound crazy and she's like, the monkey. Is this he a person ah or some type of non-person?
01:14:53
Speaker
um What are his... Does he go by he? Are you sure that's his pronoun? Is it more of a chimp type of... What what now is what is trying to kill you, ma'am? What type of monkey... Chimpanzee?
01:15:08
Speaker
A primate. Is this thing something... Is it... Is it orange or is zoo-like creature trying to... Did you get this from the local zoo? I can't find you until I know what is trying to kill you.
01:15:21
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ma Ma'am, who is he? and she's just like, Hannah's just like, I'm so over it. Please, the champ, bro. Come and help me. And then Hannah dies. So, in yes. In the most brutal, I don't, I feel like I haven't emphasized this enough. In an overly brutal way, I feel Terrifying. her face or her chest gets totally like caved in. It's terrifying because it's like everybody thinks that they have a chance of dying, getting being killed by this chimp at some point.
01:15:49
Speaker
She got so close to leaving. And then that trunk opening and her basically waiting for her slow demise because he took his time. terrible just the worst feeling you can't fight a chimp in a car i would have been out of that car already back in i thought about that i thought about that do you think that he can run faster joe these people they stumble when they're like fucking ah turn around and fucking kick this thing you know does nobody go to grab your ankle did you miss the part where this was ah freaking super hulk chimp Use something. Nobody is defending themselves at any point or trying to hurt this chimp. They're just running.
01:16:30
Speaker
I would be putting up a fight. I'm somebody who usually has shoes on, especially like if I'm outside and I know I'm not getting in the pool, I will probably have shoes on. And you know what's happening? That chimp's running at me and I'm stomping on its face.
01:16:45
Speaker
I'm giving. got some good distance. I'm punting it Even if it doesn't work, you're still trying to fight back, which I do think nobody was trying to do unless attacked. Even if it's not trying to attack me, I'm going to punt that chimp. That's exactly what i just said. Even when not attacked, they're not trying to fight. And they should be trying to fight instead of trying to get around. They keep trying. Oh, I was talking about just unsuspecting chimp, not even rabies infected.
01:17:09
Speaker
Sure. I'm just going to go around punting chimps now. wait, missed that part. sounds now that I think about ok don't do that. You're going kicked out. I'm kidding. Like Thailand. Imagine you go to Thailand. Thailand. i was thinking the zoo. Oh, local, local gym kicker. Brookfield Zoo, Lincoln Park Zoo. Got to look at. No, I'm going to get put on some watch Yeah, stop before you're actually banned from the zoo. Yeah. People, like, animal rights activists come and, like, tear you apart. I meant Brookfield Zoo in Florida. Yeah. That sounds like that could be worse for you. Anyway.
01:17:38
Speaker
Okay. the Florida man. um well maybe I forgot what I was saying. You were talking about the chimp kicking him when he's in his more docile state. I don't know if docile is the right word, but when he's like sitting there in a trance kind of not attacking, you were talking about using those moments to attack. Right. Because they only utilize moments to fight back. They didn't attack. They were just they were defending and their their free moments were spent trying to get a phone, which brings me to my question. Like, I i do want to go back to the end, but I'm wondering in this age where everybody has a smartphone and everybody does have a smartphone in this movie.
01:18:18
Speaker
These phones are so poorly utilized. These phones are so underutilized. It drives me nuts. Because nobody has a case on their phone. Well, there's only one phone apparently between the group. All these people went to hang out by the pool. It's fucking young people and teenagers went to hang out by the pool and one person brought their phone. Yeah, give me a break. You're charging your phone in your bedroom. You are in a five billion dollar mansion and there's no outdoor outlets for you to charge your phone. There's no there's a there's like a pen pad, a keypad when they come down the stairs leading to the pool and nothing in there is any type of emergency services phone way to call out. We live in a phone addicted society, especially teens. And you have a teenager in your group who is not glued to her phone, doesn't have it on her. it Maybe it's an island thing. Maybe they really aren't like, you know, they have so much beauty and things to do outside. They're like, oh, we don't do that phone stuff. So you think this movie is a commentary on how us, the whites, like need to live the island lifestyle a little more? That's actually not what I was thinking at all, no, but the mainland. For a movie that takes place in Hawaii, very white cast.
01:19:37
Speaker
Yeah, might be going Not one Hawaiian character to be seen this thing. Well, Nick might have been. ah Maybe. He looked very white. Also, they he was they met him on the plane to Hawaii. No, Nick is a childhood friend.
01:19:49
Speaker
ah child Oh, Nick. first Sorry, I thought you were talking about Justin Bieber. Oh, Lord, No. Yeah. and Nick, maybe he might be. um I don't know. He had a very Taylor Lautner look to him.
01:20:04
Speaker
Exactly. But this guy in here, Nick in here is definitely, definitely tan. um But so we're saying at the end, the blanket thing made me upset, but also the fact that they didn't force Adam to sit down and put a sea collar on him because that man's head got slammed into that concrete wall.
01:20:25
Speaker
patio several times. He'll get over. He can handle it. Clearly. That's what he must have told I mean, he He probably doesn't have health insurance being an author. He's like, don't put me in that ambulance. That's $1,000 I am not paying or $10,000, however much an ambulance Yeah, he's like, now I got a plate to clean this plate. He broke my screen door. He can pay for the house, but I don't know what if writers have health insurance. what Maybe that's an issue. yeah Maybe out of pocket. I don't know. Maybe that's something the movie's trying to address, that there's no health insurance in place for writers.
01:21:03
Speaker
Hey, if you're rich enough, do you need health insurance? Some things are cheaper out of pocket. Maybe that could be a timeshare. ah In Airbnb. Yeah, and that is what I thought at one point. That's funny. Airbnb with a monkey or a chimp. Right, with an enclosure just built in the back and everything. yeah That's wild. But yeah, um I didn't like the lack of certain things that should have been done at the end. But I appreciate the way it ended regardless.
01:21:31
Speaker
I do. So do you have any final thoughts on the movie? Anything you want to say
Mixed Feelings and Movie Comparisons
01:21:38
Speaker
about it? um It was entertaining. Enjoyed the watch. Definitely kept ah the suspense, kept my heart rate.
01:21:47
Speaker
A bit above normal. It could just be me, but overall, I appreciated um many moments in this, although some frustrating. I thought it was a good watch.
01:21:59
Speaker
Overall, i I would give it give it a ah a three. Okay. think that's a i was going to say two and a half, but I'm like, let me be nice. Okay. I gave it. That's what makes me so nice.
01:22:12
Speaker
I gave it about a two and a half on Letterboxd. You can go follow me there at Nicholas Ewers. um So you'd say this is your favorite movie of 2026 so far? I think I have seen one.
01:22:25
Speaker
Two. Two movies? Two movies. Oh, yeah. Out of the two, yeah. I don't like doing the favorite. Nick likes to pin things as favorites in love and hate.
01:22:37
Speaker
There's a lot of gray. um i did enjoy this movie. I'm doing it on purpose. Out of the two movies we've seen, this is definitely better than the stupid-ass play.
01:22:50
Speaker
Fuck that movie. You didn't like The Plague. No, that was a terrible movie. I thought The Plague was okay. I like The Plague a little more than this. Conceptually, I think The Plague was really cool, and I got to give the filmmaker a lot of props for it. And those actors, like them working...
01:23:08
Speaker
Working together, they came together to get some really good performances on film. And so I thought that was really cool. But that's a movie that kind of falls apart at the end for me. And i feel like it concept little bit. don't feel like they should have a bunch of naked bull boys in a film.
01:23:25
Speaker
They're hella pedophiles that will sell out these tickets. Sorry, it's ter it's just... i It's something that I thought about later on and I'm like, wait a minute.
01:23:36
Speaker
Why are we acting like our world is normal right now? It did make me a little uncomfortable. The movie was going for a Carrie type of vibe and Carrie has some girls in locker room kind of stuff. It felt like it was trying to be boy Carrie.
01:23:51
Speaker
a little bit. ah Without spoiling the plague, though, feel like it could have done a bit more interesting things with its concept. It seemed like there were cool ideas in there, but they could have really expanded on them. But...
01:24:09
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it's It also wasn't as gross as I thought it was going to
'Primate' as a Gateway Horror Film
01:24:12
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be. you know i was kind of talking with you on our way to the theater when we saw that, and I was like, oh, I forgot this was a really gross movie. But I mean, I didn't find it too gross. I was a little un like uncomfortable at times. Definitely uncomfortable. was nowhere near gross enough.
01:24:31
Speaker
Kind of strange, but... But anyway, final thoughts on the chimp. Primate. I know, I'm kidding. The chimp. That would be a good title too. But that yeah, those are your final thoughts? Yes, sir.
01:24:45
Speaker
Yeah, and i I thought it was pretty okay. Serviceable horror movie. I think some teenager or some kid is going gravitate towards this and see it, and it's going to be one of their first horror movies, and maybe it'll unlock something for them. This seems like a ah nice gateway horror movie. It's not...
01:25:10
Speaker
You know, there's not any like nudity in it. And the violence. I really appreciate the lack of nudity nudity and the lack of sex because I think that is just way too heavy in films. And I think you guys need to use other things and not having sex carry your film.
01:25:25
Speaker
Thank you. It is kind of just a trope at this point, especially the way some horror movies use it. It doesn't seem like it serves much kind of purpose or it's not really used for character moments. It's just a reason to get some nudity on screen. Especially when it's people who are supposed to be playing teenagers.
01:25:45
Speaker
Yuck. Yeah, not a big fan of that either. ah yeah but there's no nudity in this. The violence is pretty graphic, but... I don't know. It's not like... Aside from that, it's not like a really offensive movie. I think this could be somebody's gateway into horror.
01:26:04
Speaker
It's ah got a fun hang vibe to it a little bit. ah There's like the nice setting of the cliff in the pool. i think it's fun and would appeal to young kids. I think this is going to be a hit for... like Maybe this is...
01:26:20
Speaker
the the evolution of the Five Nights at Freddy's crowd. They go from Five Nights at Freddy's to like this, a movie with some real violence. I was like, is this a mature Five Nights at Freddy's or something?
01:26:30
Speaker
No, but I could see you making that progression like, oh, after Five Nights at Freddy's. Oh, the monkey horror movie or the chimp horror movie. Let me go check that one out. That seems fun. And then you get to see some real violence and get some real dread.
01:26:43
Speaker
Not the fake shit. Disclaimer, not real violence. We don't support real violence. No, like. Unless it's towards men. Yeah, the real violence. um But you get something, you get a little bit more bang for your buck than in the Five Nights at Freddy's movies, which barely function as horror movies. But and know I'm going on and on. ah Yeah, I thought this movie was okay, serviceable.
01:27:10
Speaker
Serviceable, yes, for sure. Yeah, i thought it was good overall. All right. Well, guys, that's been ah our conversation on the monkey. i mean Now we're going to end with our... mate Wait.
01:27:24
Speaker
The chimp. Well, said the monkey. That was a great banger of movie also. The monkey. You like the monkey more than this one? um I do like the monkey more than this one. Yeah. I do. not by like Not drastically or anything, but I like them both. But the monkey was monkey was hit monkey was fire.
01:27:41
Speaker
The monkey's doing a lot more, and it's got a lot more creative kills, I'd say. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Gruesome. Monkeys and chips chimps, very different animals, I think. Well, it was a toy that used the surroundings. It's very smart.
01:27:57
Speaker
Very smart. And it looked kind of like a chimp, honestly. Let's be real. that looked It was very chimp-like. I think it had a tail, though, and chimps don't have tails. As to the differentiation, I will say. We're related to like chimps. That's what we're close to, are like chimps and gorillas, I think. Gorillas, I think, are in the chimp family. it Could be wrong, but I don't think monkeys are the same as chimps. That's like a different type of species that I don't think we're related to. I don't think we come from monkeys. I think we come from chimps. Listeners, if I'm totally wrong, don't call me on it.
01:28:33
Speaker
Don't do any research either. take this as fact. Start spreading it. Or don't take it at all. Yeah. Yeah. um Yeah, that was our conversation on ah Primate.
01:28:45
Speaker
Thank you for joining me, Rocia, again. It's always a blast having you and seeing these movies with you.
Podcast Reflections and Future Plans
01:28:51
Speaker
Oh, no problem. It was a good time. It was a blast. which Why did Jimmy Neutron just come to mind?
01:28:59
Speaker
i was like, God, what's his phrase? Classic show. He says, got a blast. Yeah, we could watch the Jimmy Neutron movie. We'll do that for movies with Bay commentary. Yeah, honestly, stay tuned for our next movies with Bay commentary. I think it's actually going to be Honey, Don't.
01:29:16
Speaker
Yeah, Honey, Don't. And it's a good watch. Yeah, we'll to get that. That movie have sex, but it's okay. There's queer sex, so it's, like, better.
01:29:27
Speaker
Love to get that. There's an episode on the monkey up on the These Guys Got Juice feed. If you look up Movies with Bay and go to YouTube, you can find our episode on the 2016 Blair Witch. These are all commentaries that we do together.
01:29:43
Speaker
It's a pretty fun time. If you enjoy hearing Rosia and I talk, it's not as in-depth. It's way more laid back. ah We don't stay as on topic. There may be, we don't, there may be some snacking sounds.
01:29:56
Speaker
um Just ignore those. Think of it as ASMR. well Do what you got to do to judge. I don't want to scare people away. We did a good job of editing out almost all of the snacking sounds. and In the episode in particular, I think it's the monkey.
01:30:13
Speaker
But I want to say we did a good job of editing out those snacking sounds. He's being very polite. He's like, I did a great job when your big ass mouth was chomping those freaking chompers into the microphone like you were about to eat the microphone next. I had to go in and take that shit out. And I did really good.
01:30:34
Speaker
And he did. He did a good job. Well, thank you, babe. Thank you, bae. The titular bae. One of the baes. What? Which one of us is bae? We haven't determined that. Is bae...
01:30:46
Speaker
Movies with bae. So one of us is with bae. We're both with bae. We're both with bae. Okay. Yes. That's good. So, and then there's a commentary on M. Night Shyamalan's old that I got to get up there.
01:31:01
Speaker
Eventually it'll probably be on these guys got juice feed or somewhere. I can't say that one is too good. I think I was, I think I was under the sleep influence. I'm a little part of it. It a long movie. My issue with that one is I didn't remember much of what happened in that movie, and I spent a lot of the commentary saying, wait, what what is happening? I forgot this part. What's what's going on?
01:31:24
Speaker
That's a lot of that commentary. But yeah, Honey, Don't, that's the next one for us to record, and we've been tossing around like maybe Aristocats. we are Yeah, my favorite little animated movie.
01:31:38
Speaker
Yeah, so well we we'll have some variety. It's not just going to be horror that you're hearing us talk about. Everybody to be cat. Because the cat's the only cat who knows where it's at.
01:31:53
Speaker
That's all i got. On that note, thank you guys for supporting the podcast. Thank you guys for listening to this episode. If you're new, subscribe, tell a friend, check out some other episodes. Rocia appeared on this podcast at the end of last year to cover the Silent Night Deadly Night remake.
01:32:09
Speaker
I'm sure she's going to be on more episodes in the future. i know Wreck 4 isn't out yet. We're going to get to it. There's been ah a little bit of a shift on the podcast. You know, as you can tell, I'm podcasting without a co-host.
01:32:24
Speaker
Mercedes is no longer... we're we're not doing the podcast together. Things ended civil, but we just decided it would be best to not do the show together anymore. And...
01:32:38
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yeah. So i'm going to be working with guests. Maybe I'll do some solo episodes. Rosie is going to be coming on. Uh, you can expect more of Doug. And if you're a listener, you got some recording equipment and you want to try and get on an episode, reach out on Instagram. You can follow us too at morbid curiosities underscore pod.
01:32:59
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Um, you can send us an email at morbid curiosities 10 and, uh, Yeah, remember to rate and review the podcast five stars on Apple podcast or Spotify tell a friend about the show.
01:33:12
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We'd really appreciate it. It's growing with every episode. So that's so cool. Thank you guys for the support. And Rosia, thank you again for coming on the podcast. No problem. Thanks for having me.
01:33:24
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It was a time. Hell yeah, it was. a time was had. We've been Morbid Curiosities. oh