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MOTU: Revelation Instant Reaction
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Masters of the Universe enthusiasts Brian V. Klein & Dale Morris return to provide instant reactions for the first part of the highly anticipated new series from creator Kevin Smith that just dropped on Netflix!
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Introduction & Overview of Masters of the Universe Revelation
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On this episode of Animation Deliberation, we are covering Masters of the Universe Revelation. That's right, this highly anticipated series from Netflix, from Kevin Smith, has dropped and we are excited to provide our instant reactions. Stay tuned for that right after these
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Animation Deliberation Theme & Guest Introduction
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Sing along if you know the words. One, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of our favorite action animated series. Yeah. Yeah. All right, folks, welcome back to animation deliberation. I'm your host, Jay Scottie St. Clair, and I have with me returning guests, Brian V. Klein and Dale Morris. Welcome back. Brian, how are you? Oh, I'm doing fantastic.
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which doesn't seem to be somewhat of an opinion right now, but I am, bad of mine. Boom. Next. We'll dive into that. We'll dive into that. But I think the three of us here are pretty excited for it. But Dale, welcome back. Thanks for being here. How are you? Thanks for having me. I'm feeling powerful. Awesome. Awesome. You have the power. Cool, cool.
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All right, well let's not waste any time here whatsoever.
Initial Reactions & Praise for the New Direction
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The series is out. We just did our primer episode last week, so I'm excited to have you two guys as big he-guys back. Let me know, what are your initial impressions? What did you think of Masters of the Universe, Revelation, at least the first five episodes here?
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It was a blast, a lot of fun. There was some shocking things, but just so, so entertaining to see. Someone else get their hands on the story and take it in a whole new direction. I loved it.
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Awesome. So did I. I thought it was excellent. I love the animation. I like that house, the animation house that does it anyway from Castlevania to begin with. But I just love the design. I love that it was pretty much just like a walking
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80s toy commercial too because of all this the vehicles and stuff that they reused from originally and actually seeing stink or in an episode.
Nostalgia and Shocking Elements in the Series
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But yeah, it was shocking a lot of shocking in a sense of some of the ways that they told the story. But we'll give it I give it a solid nine out of 10 right now. And I've I was not disappointed.
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Yeah, as being a relatively new fan of Masters of the Universe, I agree with you guys. I thought it was excellent. I thought the animation was top notch. I thought the vocal performances were stellar. And again, even only recently having become endeared to a lot of these characters and concepts, there were some big swings and I thought they paid off pretty well. And I felt the stakes right off the bat. So no need to bury the lead here. Let's let's talk about it. They kill off.
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Prince, Prince Adam and He-Man as well as Skeletor in the first episode. What do you guys think? I was just, I went, okay. That was a way that they tell the story. Now, first off, the way that I look at this too is that the first five episodes, they do have their plot break moments at the end of each episode and start of the next
Tila's Quest & New Narrative Style
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one. But if you look at it almost as one two-hour movie,
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I mean, it was set up like a two-hour movie. You could call it Tila's quest for redemption. I mean, Tila was the main focus on this. And we sort of knew it from the groups and stuff like that. But it wasn't lacking anything that was the heart of the original show, as far as I was concerned. If anything, it took it into the next step that they could have went.
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A lot of people and I've seen this a couple times are used to the original series where it's pretty much one story next one story next one story. It didn't have a continuing arc over a course of even like how Transformers and GI Joe would have three to five episode arcs. It was always one story go to the next one, whatever. This one they set it up to be a
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episode first half of the season story almost which if you you could pretty much break it down it would be about a two-hour movie maybe about a hundred and
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18 minutes, so just short of that, but it felt like that
Merchandise Impact on Series Surprises
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to me. And by the end of it, the stakes weren't higher. The only problem I had with it is that the end scene was spoiled because they already released that, they released a Skelegot toy. I have it already. So now I'm just like, as soon as it sort of happened, I'm like, oh, okay, I see where this is going now. Literally, but I didn't even think about that at all until
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Adam gets killed for the second time, supposedly. Apparently he probably won't be, but they'll do something, but they leave you hanging that you think of these dead. But it's just like, Oh, okay. There's the toy down that I could, it was out of my mind, but then all of a sudden it's like, Oh, now we got to Scaliad. So sorry for the ramble, but I was just kind of excited about this. You're good. I hear you. Yeah. The very first, uh, piece of revelation merchandise to hit the shelf was saved to the very last moment of these five episodes.
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And thankfully, I kind of forgot about that. So I wasn't thinking in my head, okay, this is when Skeletor comes back as a god. So it didn't ruin anything as far as knowing that that was a piece of merchandise. But that's just kind of funny that that was the first thing that was out.
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And it's, you know, very much Luke at the end of force awakens and they are right before your rolling credits. Right. Well, Luke is a very fitting comparison because we had Mark Hamill step into the role of Skeletor. So what did you guys think about that performance?
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I loved it. He did go a little bit. I mean, whenever Hamill plays a bad guy, it usually has a tendency to trail off sometimes into his most iconic bad guy voice acting role he's ever done, which was the Joker on the Batman, the animated series. But that's just a tendency on voice actors to begin
Voice Acting Highlights and Critiques
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with. For the most part, it sounded like Skeletor in my mind. Some of the other characters took a little bit of time for me to adjust to their voices.
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But with him, it was just sort of like, okay, I know that Skeletor. And I mean, it's Hamill though, so he's gonna give you everything he has.
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I agree. I thought it was one of the better performances. It was very similar to Brian Dobson's take on the Mike Young Productions He-Man series from 2002. Very close to that, which I thought was a great take. So if you're ranking them, they're all above New Adventure Skeletor, but they're all quality Skeletors. Okay, cool.
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Yeah, I thought he did a great job. I definitely heard a little bit of that inflection there that was reminiscent of the Joker, I will agree. But I watched that The After Show because Brian, you made me aware that it even existed. So I was glad to see that. And they did interviews with a lot of the voice actors and they spent a good amount of time with Mark Hamill. And he kind of talked about workshopping the role and some of his favorite parts were the more gleeful aspects and kind of getting the gloat. And those were definitely some of my favorite parts of the performance as well.
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But you talked about some of the characters that took a little bit of adjusting. Anybody in particular come to mind? Merman was a little different. Well, a lot different actually, because he didn't have that underwater bubble girl thing. Orko and Cringer. Those were just because you have it
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They're so ingrained, like I think I mentioned on the primer, there's certain voices you hear. When you hear Starscream from Transformers, you hear a certain voice. That thing is more reminiscent of the voice. You hear Megatron's voice. You hear Orko had a certain voice. Kringer had a certain voice. These voice performances that were done were fantastic. I mean, Steven Root did a great job as Kringer for the moment he was in there. He gave them a new voice. It just took a little bit of getting used to. Someone like Lena Headey popping in as Eva Lin,
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Not a problem because it wasn't a very, her voice, the voice performance of the actress that played her originally wasn't something that was recognizable as what it was. Even, you know, Henry Rollins is Triclops or Beastman. It was overall, it was at first, that's the thing when you see a star studded voice cast of actors who aren't normally voice actors in things, you're sort of just like, oh, how's this going to work? And, you know, it worked fine.
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Yeah.
Character Development: Evil-Lyn & Allies
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Yeah. I think Leena Headey, I think that was a standout. For me, I think she just did a fantastic job with the lines and delivery because in the past, like we've seen shades of goodness from evil in, but she sold it the good and the evil and the character, I guess.
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But at first, I was just like, wait a second. And then the second time she came back, I'm like, oh, that's Lena Head. That's Eva Lin. She didn't change her voice up enough and just had, because she's got that inflection. I think Eva Lin was her voice. Some of these actors had their voices as, like I couldn't tell. I know it was heavily modulated, but Justin Long was Roboto. Didn't sound anything like Justin Long. I mean, obviously, Kevin Conroy was only in it minimally as
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It did take me only like the second scene she was in as the, the older lady that she was in the second episode where she.
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Merman, but that's just, I mean, you got, he was put into this, I think, as the fact that it's Kevin Conroy. You got the name of Batman going up against the Joker again. Right. Other than that, I mean, it was just, you know, the voice performance is nothing was, nothing stood out to me as being terrible. So, Sarah Marcel Geller was excellent as Tila.
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Oh, yeah. And we'll circle back to some of these other characters that we mentioned because they're all worth spending some time with. But on the character of Evil Lin, the series saw some big shakeups in a lot of ways. We already talked about killing off Prince Adam, He-Man, and Skeletor in the opening episode. But that set up Tila to kind of be the main character for us and for it to be.
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Tila's adventure, but also Evil Lin was an ally. You talk about some of the goodness that we've seen broadcasted before. So yeah, definitely seeing some big shakeups to the masters of the universe landscape, just in terms of like the magic being gone.
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former villains becoming allies, even Beastman, Kevin Michael Richardson. I always loved when he gives vocal performance and he was just perfect. What did you guys think of some of the characters' change-up designs? They were very reminiscent of who they were in the classic series, but especially somebody like Beastman. I just thought they did a lot to beef him up and make him more menacing and make him more believable and not as comical a character.
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Yeah, there definitely wasn't a port where they did like in the original show where they basically just like banished him for all the Skeletor's failures. But before I go, I didn't even think about this till now and hopefully Dale knows this. Is there an established
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time between the end of Episode 1 and the beginning of Episode 2, where there was the time when obviously Man in Arms got older, his hair is longer, and how long was it between Prince Adam dying and Tila going on the first quest? I mean, was it years or months? Or has that even been established? I have not seen that officially established anywhere.
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I saw five years being reported in a YouTube chat, I believe, but I don't know if that's confirmed, but that feels right. Yeah, it felt like three to five years in my mind, just because Andra was not an established character. And it seemed like by the time she was introduced in that second episode, there was a history with her and Tila. It wasn't their first day on the job. So I feel like it was more years than just months.
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Okay. It would have almost been a little bit helpful, I guess to say like, you know, five years later or something just I mean, you knew that there was a time gap. I mean, only because Tila had a new haircut and they actually if you look at it, and I didn't even realize this until I saw it the second time she had a more like trimmed
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muscular design in the first episode. But then in the second episode when she was going on to she got beefier like she got like bulked up as a character as a design like I actually a lot of the female act that characters probably based more on the fact that what they were doing in the show got more like even Evil Lin had a like a like a beefier design it wasn't like the technical the typical Slim Arms and
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design like that from the old formation, but it looked like they were designed more for an aesthetic look of what these characters would need to be in the situations they were in. So again, the animation just there was never any problem with the animation. Some of it was just gorgeous, especially when they were sailing across the crystal sea. Some of that was just like wow.
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Yeah, and the new character designs, there were some interesting ones that I really enjoyed seeing. Seeing a big bulky beast man, you know, that's 50% larger than the other characters and kind of seeing the story of what are the villains doing now without Skeletor at
Triclops' Cult & New Dynamics
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the helm. They're all kind of free agents and seeing who they're aligned with. I thought that was pretty fascinating.
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The Triclops, his little cult of technology that was out there, didn't expect that. But I really liked them using Merman and Beastman the way they did. Yeah, the Triclops technology cult kind of gave me almost like Mad Max vibes.
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It had a bit with them drinking the stuff to turn into. Well, I was trying to think of what that, they reminded me of something else and it's been slipping my mind where it basically turned. It's not quite like the Borg, but it's like they're half living flesh, half. Was it like the Reavers in the comics? Temple of Doom.
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No, no, no, I'm talking about something where they actually they did. They basically start becoming more machine than man as like a cult type thing. Like they I guess it could almost be like the. Oh, crap, it's a Star Wars thing in the expanding universe. It's not to use yet, but it's not important. That whole scene was cool because with the whole scenes with when they were fighting against blast attack and
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these trapjaw. And some of those things were just cool. And they actually do the throwback, which I like because you could tell that one scene where trapjaw got a freaking buzzsaw to the face.
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And then the next thing you see him in the next show, they have him with the friggin scar in the eye. And so it's like, okay. The way they shot that. So obviously let's talk, let's talk a little bit about the action, but that scene and that sequence in particular, so they really up the ante. But so when it's, it's the guy that ingested the techno fluid, he, he got this buzzsaw arm that got broken off. And so later on the character of, uh, what was it one more time? Andra.
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Yes, Lieutenant Andre. She causes the buzzsaw to come right down on his head and they do a trick where the camera cuts away, but you still hear the impact. So you just imagine, I thought he might be dead. Yes. You hear a squish. It's like, you hear it's like, Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. And a trap job.
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Yeah, I want to circle back to killing off characters, because we've already talked about Prince Adam, but that's he's not the only one to get killed off. And there's a reason that I thought maybe trap shot was gone. But anyway, just focusing on the action a little bit, they really do up the ante. And this is very much Tila's story. I loved her her weapon, that multi purpose, it functions as a sword, it can become like a grappling hook. Very, very cool, very well animated.
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created some interesting choreography, but also on the other side of things, like a character that we haven't talked a ton about yet, Man at Arms, I feel like he benefited the most from this like high octane, like being able to put a little bit of a budget, just seeing him run across the battlefield and the things he was doing was just, oh, so, so cool.
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that opening scene and or the opening episode when they had that big melee fight at outside of Castle Greyskull was pretty much was awesome because you see the freaking bachelors come on you see all the Rotons coming out and the lancer all this stuff from the toys it was literally this like this is a thing that as a kid with a full toy box you could make this thing go yeah because it's just like everything especially at the beginning when he had
Action Sequences & Nostalgic Toy Battles
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like Nightstalker and just it's like they literally had more screen time it seemed like a lot of these things in this show than they did in the original series which they were designed for like one episode sell the toy you don't need to see him again so these things some of these things had purpose in there so yeah but the action in that was just phenomenal between the fightings of all the the the man in arms and all the his warriors and stuff like that and just
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Well, even right before that, when the sorceress was defending the castle, just her, you know, there's just she's just got a crystal and it's like cutting down all these minions, the Skalkons and everything. It's like, oh, wow, I guess a crystal can be pretty powerful against an entire army. Action after that was was great. Different use of characters. Like you said, lots of vintage vehicles. That was really exciting to see.
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Yeah, they did utilize the Rotana and quite a few. I mean, that was like pretty much, I think, triclopses when he was going around trying to do his magic purge across the whole Eternia. That was like his vehicle of choice to attack people with. So it's just like, that was the thing Jace got it at like black circular thing with the spinning things on the outside. Anyway, so I gotcha. Yeah, that was a cool toy to play with when we were kids.
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Oh, I bet I could I could see you having a lot of fun with the spin action on that one. Cool. Oh, yeah. Well, I kind of alluded to it a little bit, but we we did get some
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major, major stakes and some major fallout in terms of character sacrifices.
Orko's Sacrifice and Emotional Moments
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So not only did we have the aforementioned Prince Adam die possibly twice, as well as Skeletor meeting his demise, we get Orko making a huge- I don't want to talk about it. I pause it because I was freaking, I was bawling.
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The guy was just like, oh, no, no. But the thing is, though, it's on screen. But him being in subternia when it happened. Yeah. And the character was such a source of comic relief in the classic 80s series. And then they take him. And then the first episode, obviously, he feels very much the same. And they do a great job of echoing that feel. But they just used the- You almost killed Granger.
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Yeah, right. But they just use the character so effectively here with him becoming sickly and weak with the loss of magic you just instantly are already feeling for him and then for him to to learn that he's the last of the the trollans. Well, I
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I have a theory on that and I know this is just a quick take episode But I feel like they weren't necessarily on the real trawler that could have just been what Oracle feared happened to trawler Yeah
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them being in subternia. I mean, I think they did a good job showing what what it looks like. And then later with the grave, because trawler is designed similar to that a lot of wild colors. But I don't know for sure if trawler is already devastated, because when they talked about the magic leaving Eternia, they hadn't said that it's already affected the entire universe yet.
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But you would think that Trello Trello may be one of the first ones to get affected because it was such a magic Source of magic, but yeah I don't think that when they were in subternia any of the places they actually were or anywhere other than just them Feeling like they were there. That was all by the way. We haven't talked about this guy yet, but holy crap scare glow Yeah Yeah
Exploration of Scare Glow & Subternia
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That was just, he did more in this episode, this series so far that I ever seen him in anything else. So we did the 10 episode primers and then he was a character that I was, I was not familiar. So I did want to ask is, are the realms of subternia as well as is it preternia? Preternia. Yeah. Are those, are those realms that were previously established?
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Subternia isn't really used too often. And preternia, this was a new concept for preternia. So preternia is literally
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prehistoric Eternia combined together. This is the first time where they've used that idea that Preternia is heaven. So even though Andra used the line about them visiting heaven and hell, I didn't really believe Preternia was supposed to represent heaven until they were there. Like I still thought there was going to be some kind of time traveling element up until they were there and this really established, oh,
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If you have the power of He or any kind of the power of Grayskull, you got to go to this special heaven. Right, this is your reward. Yes, so I was definitely a new idea, but a welcome one. I thought that idea was really smart.
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Okay. Okay. Yeah. I just, I just wanted to get some clarification on that, but yeah, let's go, let's go back to sub tourney and talk about a scare glow and Tony Todd's performance there. Uh, it sounds like it's a character that you guys had some familiarity with before this, this adaptation. So what can you tell me about him?
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I can tell you on my end, his main thing as a collector is that anytime something comes out with scare glow, it ends up within six months becoming way too expensive for anyone to ever try to get. Even with the release of the origin stuff, it was a figure that was, I think, short packed, and then it was pushed back, and so it did come out. And it was like the rest of these things are 20 bucks. This thing was going for $100 for the longest time, because no one can get it. And it's like, why is every time scare glow comes out as a fungal pop, as an original figure, it always is like on the secondary market, it's ridiculous.
00:23:45
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I mean, it is a really cool ass looking figure because originally he was what in the series he was Skeletor brought him back to be one of his like champions or something. He was never featured in in Filmation in my young productions. It was this was strictly from the toy line.
00:24:07
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like many comics and such. And he was billed as the evil ghost of Skeletor, not literally Skeletor's ghost, but like a ghost that works for Skeletor. What was his name? What was his name like? Zell or?
00:24:23
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He had a name, like he was brought back and he was called, they called him Scareglow because he was a glowing skeleton that had a tendency to like scare people. Like he could surprise them. But I'm trying to remember what his actual, he was just like an evil fighter from somewhere else. Like I said, this was one of the things that this toy line continued way longer than the show did. And they had no outlet to put all these new figures. So that's why there's some of the figures and some of the characters
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that have come in and can potentially come into the show are things that you've really never seen in an animated series before because there just wasn't any.
00:25:01
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It's like seeing Blast Attack. I don't know if it's too early to get into the millions of Easter eggs, but yeah, Blast Attack has never been in animation before, so that's a Kamikaze character. Yeah, he was the guy in Castle Grayskull that was hitting the buttons and ended up blowing up. Oh, gotcha. Cool, cool. Okay. Yeah, so he's got figures in Funko Pops and stuff, but again, it's never been.
00:25:26
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I'll be super excited to hear all the Easter eggs that you guys caught because even like just having watched the like 11 or 12 episodes that I watched, I caught some Easter eggs. So I'll be really excited to hear all the ones that you caught. But yeah, I think that's a that does some pretty good coverage for scare glow. I will just say they use the character very effectively. And it's really cool to hear that that's like a long anticipated character that got to be realized.
00:25:49
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But not only did he serve like a great purpose and set Orko up for that great sacrifice, but also his interactions with Tila provided for some of that great action I talked about. But action is always highlighted when it's not just action for action's sake, but when it can cause some character development. And that was some huge character development for Tila. And even Orko, the Orko scene with Orko, and when you find out about the whole
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And I can't remember if the whole Oracle thing was something that was established before with his name. That was actually kind of interesting when they said that, you know, it's him not sort of like, when you find out that on my game of thrones that Hodor is actually just short for him saying, hold the door, hold the door. Then it just gets morphed into that. So that was a new idea for the series. Originally.
00:26:34
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the character's name was Gorpo. I'm not making that up. And when Filmation came along, they put a big O on his chest. So that way, if they flipped the seller out, he still had the same, he's looked the same. That's honestly where the O before Orko came from.
00:26:53
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But the character was great. And I really thought it was a smart idea by the voice actor that they didn't try to duplicate Lou Shimer's voice from the Filmation series, which was a very goofy little youthful sound, versus what they tried to do is I think from the Mike Young Productions key man,
00:27:17
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the actor that played Orko, Gabe Kuth, who sadly passed away two years ago, I think they used that as their baseline for this Orko voice, and it was like spot on. So if you go watch an episode of that and then watch an episode of the new one, it's an excellent take, I think, on Orko.
00:27:35
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Yeah, it's Griffin Newman, who the only thing I really recognize him from is he was on the Amazon Prime series, The Tick, which got two seasons, I think, before it got canceled. But I love all iterations of The Tick. And at some point on animation deliberation, we will tackle that 90s Tick series. But that's neither here nor there. Put it on the list, right?
00:27:57
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the ever growing list. Well, if you keep talking about voice acting, we almost have to talk about, even though he was a very minor character in the, this, this series, but the importance of having Mossman. Oh, yeah, sure. So I don't know if you're gonna bring that up or what, but that's something that's, I mean, having, was it Alan Oppenheimer? Correct. The voice of Mossman. He was originally Skeletor in the Filmation series.
00:28:24
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Yeah. Yeah. So they got him, they got him just that, that's just the, you know, Kevin Smith. And you saw, if you watched it on the revelations after show was just like them talking to him saying, this is just, you know, the fact that we could still have him. Cause he looked like, I mean, he looks like he's got to be in his late eighties nineties now. Yeah. Yeah. Got to be close to 90. I would imagine. Yeah.
00:28:49
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So, but he fit, I mean, the Moss Band character fit. And that was another one too, that it wasn't quite as devastating as a death at the beginning when he gets like right away. I mean, he gets incinerated too. Yeah. Cause you saw his like skeletal silhouette like burn away. That was like pretty intense.
00:29:07
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Now, the character of Mossman, that was another one that you guys talked about the toy, like him being smelling like pine salt and whatnot. That's pretty funny. But did he serve a similar role? We talked, it's been marked, the series has been marketed, and we've kind of talked about how this is a direct continuation from He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. So I imagine they, you know, treated that character the same way as well. He came across as almost like
00:29:32
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a tree beard like character to kind of allude to Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He represented like the whole environmental aspect. He was the forest. Like he even said in here, he's a million years old and it was basically representing the whole living side of Eternia. It wasn't all magic. There was a lot of living stuff there and it was pretty much he was the representation of it.
00:29:58
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Yeah. Okay. But then you get to see him again at the end in Preternia. Yeah. Yeah. That was nice to see him.
Nostalgia with Mossman & Alan Oppenheimer
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Yeah. Of any of the characters that we saw get killed off of the, was it five or six?
00:30:11
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I think that's the only one who's soundly going to stay where they are. I don't think they'll go like a baby Groot route and bring him back or anything like that. No. I can see that bringing Roboto back because he's obviously was a robot. I would say gave him sort of a sentience or what do you see? He feared. He got fear at the end. Yeah. It was a death sacrifice because he was the one that forged the sword.
00:30:39
Speaker
Yeah, that was a really heartfelt moment when you saw that little spark in his chest cavity kind of wisp away there at the last moment. But Roboto was another one of those characters that I wasn't familiar with. So I actually went back and did a little bit of research and I found out he only appeared in one episode from the Filmation series and he has a vastly different origin from the origin that gets described
00:31:04
Speaker
in Revelation. So I actually went back and I've only seen the one episode from the Mike Young series so far, but I watched Roboto's Gambit. So I got to see that take on the character. And it seems like they're kind of leaning more into that version of Roboto, maybe not so much being a chess machine, where they describe him as basically being based off of man at arms young personality. So what more can you tell me about Roboto that that I should know?
00:31:31
Speaker
I think it was a good expansion of the character. So Kevin Smith has said that they couldn't use too much from that 2002 series because of the rights being, it was another animation studio. So it's because Mike Young got bought out by someone else that got bought out since
00:31:53
Speaker
someone else, same as the Filmatian series has. So they couldn't use too many direct things from that, but there were some design elements, like Triclob's Doomseekers and Stinkor, the look of them. They looked very similar to that series. But yeah, Roboto, just think of him like Duncan made him to assist him in the lab and to also be some kind of a soldier, I guess in case there weren't enough Masters Universe around, they could use these robot warriors instead.
00:32:23
Speaker
Which is why he had everything that Duncan knew because he had a system by having the same knowledge of him at that time. So that was a cool aspect.
00:32:33
Speaker
Yeah. Well, he meets his demise in this forge in Preternia.
Grayskull & Preternia: Heaven for Champions
00:32:40
Speaker
They basically assemble to kind of describe the story. I'm assuming everybody that's listened to the podcast this long knows what's going on, but they had the two different swords to reunite the power sword or the sword of power? Yes. Same.
00:32:56
Speaker
Same thing that was referred to as the, as both it's interchangeable there. Um, so, and in preternia, we get introduced to a lot of these.
00:33:06
Speaker
precursors, these former champions that were, you know, the champions of Eternia. And we actually get to meet Grayskull, the namesake of Castle Grayskull by the power, the one that Adam is calling upon. So what did you guys think about getting to see that character? Was it faithful to previous adaptations? Is that a character that we've seen previously? Or what should I know about Grayskull? Let me know.
00:33:30
Speaker
That's from the 2002 series as well. So they changed his design, his ethnicity up a little bit, but essentially still the same character. If you do pick up the prequel comic that's out now from Dark Horse, he's featured in the first issue of that.
00:33:47
Speaker
Um, but the design is really still it's recognizable um in that in that canon He was kind of the first person where they started castle grayskull with him But it was just amazing to see that they brought that character back and then the other characters that they had in their Preternian heaven there. That was That there were some deep cuts there. Um, so uh, one of them they're uh, one dar which is uh,
00:34:15
Speaker
basically known as, he's known as Wonder Bread He-Man. My teenager was like, the bread guy made it, really? So that was kind of a deep cut to see him. The guy with the helmet, that's Vycor. So that was a concept for He-Man, who did finally get an action figure just a few years ago, but some really deep cuts there as far as the characters and beast and things that showed up in Proternia.
00:34:44
Speaker
And like hero, I mean, he had, I don't think he ever, I mean, he had figures. I know that he had the, uh, the Mattel one that was out like the 12 year old was the one that was the, the, uh, the Maddy club.
00:34:59
Speaker
Yeah, so he was finally made for classics and then Super 7 did a retro style figure just a few years ago. But that's a figure that was never made back in the day. So there was a prototype made of Hero and another character, Eldor, where the toy line was going to divulge more into the powers of Grayskull.
00:35:21
Speaker
a prehistoric thing with a lot of dinosaurs. So all they ever ended up making were just three dinosaurs. But there were a lot more ideas to continue the line down that path. So seeing hero in animation was another really, really cool thing to see. Sweet. Sweet. I do want to circle back to Grayskull a little bit. The voice was instantly recognizable to me. Did you guys recognize the voice of King Grayskull? Oh, yeah.
00:35:50
Speaker
Yeah. That's frigging Dennis Haysberg. Correct. Yeah. All state commercials. All state commercials. Pedro Serrano from Major League, President Palmer. Most recently, it's not a spoiler, but he played God on Lucifer. Oh, did he? Okay. Yeah.
00:36:08
Speaker
He has a little stint on Brooklyn Nine-Nine as well that I won't spoil. Oh yeah. Yeah. But no, Haysburg, his voice, regardless of what he's doing, if it's his voice, it's like, you know who that is. Yeah.
Casting Praise: Dennis Haysbert as King Grayskull
00:36:20
Speaker
And it's a perfect casting there. He's got such gravitas and such...
00:36:26
Speaker
a regal sound so I was really impressed. It's almost like he's like the modern day James Earl Jones as far as like you hear a voice like that and it has such presence more than anything it's just it's a commanding voice and what better to have the pretty much the number one hero from like Guardian from
00:36:47
Speaker
the whole Eternia line than him, you know, it's just, you know, especially like if it's stuff that he does, if he does like, and he's done it in Lucifer, where he like, yells, and it's almost like it bells itself. Like his voice just has that quiet and you could hear it echo like, wow, okay, that's just his natural voice. There's no reverb on that.
00:37:08
Speaker
Yeah, that's not a character that I was worried about the voice. I think he did a fine performance. The one I think most people were worried about was Stinkor. And honestly, Jason Muse, he didn't take me out of it. He did fine. I'll just leave it there. I think his voice was modulated a bit too. So it didn't sound like Jason Muse.
00:37:31
Speaker
Yeah, he didn't, he didn't have very many lines. I think he had the one like, get your stinking hands off my grub, your, your merches or something like that. Yeah, and then he belts and that was it. Yeah. I mean, so many other things like you could tell Henry Rollins was Triclops, but I just hear him from being a fan of.
00:37:49
Speaker
him for Black Flag and Rollins Band. I've seen him probably five or six times on his solo spoken word tours where he just goes and talks about his literature and other stuff. And his voice is just, I mean, it's Henry Rollins' voice. So when he's on some animated show, he was great when he was in Cora, The Legends of Cora. So just having his voice there. But like I said, the acting, the actors and actresses they chose for this were nothing was, nothing pulled you out of it.
00:38:20
Speaker
No, no, I agree. They all did stellar jobs. Now let's, let's, it sounded like Preternia was provided a nice landscape for a lot of the Easter eggs and a lot of the payoffs for longtime fans. So let's just go ahead and get into that. Let's, let's talk about some of your guys' favorite callbacks, Easter eggs, little nods. Just off the top of my head, I think about when, in the first episode when Orko had
00:38:46
Speaker
cringer encased in the bubble. And it's like, we need to pop this bubble who has the power. And then that's when Prince Adam gets his introduction, he gets to, I have the power. It's like a nice little wink to the camera. They did a good job. And I'm gonna circle back on this a bit where little things that would come across as being the quippy, what are known as like dad jokes now lines, were
00:39:13
Speaker
automatically followed up by them explaining it like when they like, oh, man, that guy was a little fishy, wasn't he? Like, everyone's thinking that like they used a great way of deflection for the humor, especially like the heaven and hell thing. But going back to I mean, my main thing with the I'm sure Dale caught this. And even though some people don't like to remember it, there was a live action movie.
00:39:38
Speaker
with Dolph Lundgren. And what was the one lies like, let's let this be our final battle. Yep. And they had that when they were fighting Skeletor and He-Man at the end of the first episode. Oh, nice. That's cool. So it's like, oh, that was right from the that movie that is more I watch it more now for
00:39:58
Speaker
Mystery Science 3000 in my head watching it because it's not a very good movie. It's not level bad of like Last Airbender or, you know, Dark Tower or stuff like that. It's just it's it was it was a poorly made just and you could I mean, they ran out of money and then they didn't know how, you know, it's it's a goofy concept, too. So yeah, that was a good callback to the movie. Also from the movie.
00:40:26
Speaker
Frank Langella's line, I am as a god, you know, seeing Skeletor become a god basically at the end. Okay. A real deep cut is Tila's little communicator thing that she was going through Stinkora's house to find. Right. The bracelet or whatever.
00:40:44
Speaker
So that is the same design as a communicator that Duncan has in the live action movie. How did they pull that one off? That was a really interesting one to see there. I didn't even notice that thing because I think I might be not paying attention much when I'm watching a movie because I'm laughing so hard.
00:41:04
Speaker
Yeah. One thing my kids picked up on is like the citizens of Eternia, there was some diversity there. They were not just a bunch of people that looked the same, royal types. Like there was cat people, there was people that looked like Stinko or his race and dog looking people. So that was kind of interesting to see that.
00:41:31
Speaker
They gained a bigger budget on this one than they did back in 1982. They're like, you know what? We have all these different alien species and different races and things. Why don't we use them? They already exist.
00:41:42
Speaker
Yeah. Now, we mentioned some of the like Easter eggs to He-Man and Masters of the Universe itself, but I do have to bring up a few what I think are nods, whether they were intentional or not. And I have to give credit to some of these from our community, the Stranded Panic community. I know they called out some of these, but Paul Hoppe, I know he was really excited for Masters of the Universe. He brought up the fact that with the opening episode being
00:42:08
Speaker
Tila's coronation as I'm going to call it coronation as man in arms. Maybe there's a more appropriate term promotion. What have you They have the line today's the day and that as a podcast that has covered young justice it was really funny that he pointed out that the pilot episode of young justice that is a Recurring line there today's the day you see all the like the title characters say today's the day today's the day today's the day
00:42:33
Speaker
But then the other thing in episode two, talking about Stinkor and getting to see some of the other denizens of Eternia, you have him get launched out and land on that guy's cart, which felt like a huge... Oh, I thought that... My cabbages! I thought that as soon as that happened, it's just my cabbages.
00:42:55
Speaker
Exactly. And then right after that, same scene, guys. She flips on the bag of money. Sorry about the mess, like Han and the Cantina. Like Han and the Cantina, yeah. Oh, good catch. Good catch. Nice. Yeah, there were some homages and some other stuff. I'm trying to think. I don't know if this is a different take on it. And you guys could probably lean on this as well because we watched the episode when
00:43:24
Speaker
Cringer says to Tila, you're the one that called me Cringer when I was being, you know, rehabilitated. In the Filmation series, an episode we watched, I thought the kids were making fun of him, calling him Cringer. Yeah, it seemed like one particularly nasty kid was like, he's a Cringer. Why not Cringer? Yeah, and I didn't know that. It's been a while since I seen the 2002 series, if they had changed it there, but I was just like, okay, that's like another
00:43:50
Speaker
origin of a name that didn't seem to fit, but again, it's a, it's a, it's not, it's not, it's not nothing that if we hadn't watched that episode, it would have just been like, okay, but this would suit, we had just watched it in the last week. It was like, okay, that just seems like a direct, uh, just contradiction of that. Sure. Not that it mattered at all, but it was just like, okay. Yeah, I don't know where they pulled that from, but, but for the scene, it really fit because establishing that,
00:44:20
Speaker
Kringer and Tila's relationship was, there really was something there. It wasn't just she was off in the distance and they didn't let her in on the secret, so she wasn't a part of their tight-knit club. He was saying, hey, you know me. I know you. We trust each other. It's time to get your act together. So it worked, whether Kevin Smith made that up or not.
00:44:43
Speaker
While we're talking about secrets, how about the two times? There was two times that they got stopped, where Tila seemed like she was going to find out that she was the sorceress' daughter. The first one, Man in Arms was going to say it, and then Evelyn's just like, no more of this family crap right now. The next one, Adam was going to say something to her, and she's like, just shut up. Let me be angry.
00:45:06
Speaker
So it's like, you know, now she's going to find out. I can just see the scene where she finally finds out she's the source of his daughter and she turns and looks at Adam if he's still alive. A man in arms is just like.
00:45:19
Speaker
I don't know what you're talking about. We didn't keep that secret from you as well. That's the whole justification for the first part of the show is that she was pissed. She was pissed. Everyone was pissed that everyone knew that. I mean, freaking King Randor banished Man in Arms and Tila said, screw this. I don't want to be made. I'm going to become a mercenary now and a bounty hunter.
00:45:45
Speaker
Like, holy crap.
Tila's Reaction & Identity Revelations
00:45:47
Speaker
Yeah, to me, that was the biggest shocker of that first episode was not these characters getting killed off, because I've seen characters get killed off in comics, and they bring them back when when it's convenient for the story. But it was Tila, well, Randor's response, because he's in shock, but Tila's response saying, Are you kidding me? I'm out. Yeah. And you could totally tell too that Queen Marlene knew like she knew that Adam was he man because he was she was like, Be safe.
00:46:15
Speaker
And then when he was the one that told Randor, she was like, not just he man's dead, our son is dead. Like what? Yeah. So that was a revelation that they, but that whole aspect of them responding to that, like, cause then that was the thing too, is that they made the designs of the characters different enough. Unlike the filmation where it literally was Adam looked like he man with, Oh yeah. It sort of being bare chested. He was wearing a lot of pink. So that was the only difference. That's why they made it a lot more.
00:46:44
Speaker
record, they realized more that they could take it. It wasn't quite a Clark Kent Superman type situation where it was just like, oh, he's got glasses on. It's not the same guy. Yeah. Two things you brought up there that I want to kind of highlight on. The first being, we already kind of talked about it being Teela's story, but yeah, you do have that moment where she's just like fed up and
00:47:06
Speaker
It kind of makes sense because we talked about in those the primer episode that we did, like as great as that series was and as empowering at the time, you know, to see a capable woman in that kind of position. We did talk about how it was. It didn't exactly sit well with us that she was the only one not in on this on the secret. It just kind of felt like a little bit of an affront and a slight to that character. So it's nice that they kind of recognize that. And I think anybody that has an issue
00:47:37
Speaker
With that, I won't get into it too heavily here, but it's just like, it felt like the right course and an acknowledgement of some of the shortcomings of the franchise previously. But then the other thing is you did talk about the physicality and the difference between Prince Adam and He-Man. So with that in mind, I wanted to ask what you guys thought about the transformation sequence. We only got to see it the one time, but that was such a
00:48:02
Speaker
an iconic part of the classic series. And we saw it over and over and over again. So I just wanted to hear what you guys thought about the updated version.
00:48:11
Speaker
I got, that was one of, outside of Orko's death, there was two other times in the show where I got physically like emotional from it. And that was one of the first ones. Cause it was just like, this is the, this is the signature moment
Transformation Sequence: Emotional Impact
00:48:25
Speaker
of the show. This is the, you know, the thing that most people remember. You see He-Man, Oh, you know, I have the power, you know? And so, and then when they did it, it wasn't a carbon copy of any of the other ones. They did it their own and you know, they did it with,
00:48:39
Speaker
Flourish and everything because it was the only time they did it, but it was I thought it was well executed Yeah, yeah watching you with my kids and they noticed okay, he's got to clear the room He's got to bolt the doors there. No one else gets to see this but but us the viewer I guess it looked cool Yeah, and on that same notice or on the same notice on the same topic at the beginning the only time in any of the episodes I saw where they did the actual full explanation intro like they used to do
00:49:08
Speaker
In the original Filmation, correct me if I'm wrong, Dale, they used to say, and only three others shared the secret, Man in Arms, Sorceress, and Orko, where in this one, they added Cringer to that list. They said four people know it, and they showed Cringer in the list of the four people. So they consider Cringer a, because he's, I mean,
00:49:29
Speaker
he's an animal but he's a freaking talking animal he's got sentience so it's just like yeah so he's uh they finally brought him into the group of the select people that knew of his secret yeah they could have actually put like queen marlena in there too but then that would have been like a total giveaway of it
00:49:45
Speaker
Yeah, so traditionally Marlena is also in on it. It's just, it's not talked about. It's kind of a thing where it's mother's intuition. She knows. I buy that. She can see that that's her kid.
00:50:03
Speaker
No. Well, do you guys have anything else you want to say about these these five episodes before we kind of transition to maybe expectations for the next set of episodes? I wanted to say I got fed up this morning when I saw that there was people attacking this for not meeting their this is what happens when people
00:50:28
Speaker
think of something and it it only happens it seems like with a super beloved franchise it happens with star wars it happens with other things where people were just taking it didn't meet up to what they exactly thought it was going to be and then they completely just crapped on the whole thing and were like this isn't it
00:50:46
Speaker
It is, and we brought this up in our primer, this is Masters of the Universe. This isn't He-Man in the Masters of the Universe. This is based on this whole thing. And so I just thought more about it and was just like, you know what, I'm just going to let it lie and let that, you know, I'm not going to get, people that know me know that I don't get angry. I normally totally, this actually got me kind of aggravated like this again.
00:51:09
Speaker
people that just sit there, I'm not going to go so far as to call them like keyboard in cells or, you know, you know, keyboard jockeys that give this basis. It's the only way they can spout off because
00:51:21
Speaker
I could tell you this, if people are out there saying that, oh, this whole thing's a woke show, this isn't a woke show. This is, there was nothing that totally made it more, except for the fact is that the main characters, which if you look back at the original Filmation Show, Tila was a main character in the show. Man in Arms has a lot of points in the show too. Yes, they did take the main antagonist and protagonist and sort of sideline them because there was the point of the story was them, you know, it was like in Force Awakens, Luke Skywalker's gone. We got to find Luke Skywalker. This is, we have to do our thing.
00:51:51
Speaker
in order to try to bring the magic back into the, into the world. They didn't know that Adam was going to be in, uh, you know, pre-turning and stuff like that. So with that being said, I'm just not going to say anything more about it. I just love that they went that route that they, we didn't see a Filmation series, uh, in 2021 because this series is made for.
Target Audience & Deeper Storytelling
00:52:15
Speaker
a 30 to 50-year-old viewer. This is the adult series. So if it would have been a 22-minute thing where He-Man spoils Skeletor's caper of the week, that would have been disappointing. He ruins his birthday party. And at the end, birthday cake drops on Skeletor. Then there's a lesson about befriending even the bad kid in school or blah, blah, blah. No.
00:52:42
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, in recent years, DC has had enough different Motu stories come out. It fills an entire omnibus now. And it's excellent storytelling because it's not something you would have thought of as a kid in the 1980s. It's really professional writers saying, what else can we do with this universe? Besides seeing this most powerful man kick butt every week, what other stories can we tell? What's happening with these side characters?
00:53:12
Speaker
Yeah. And who's to say that once, once this thing comes back, I'm pretty sure a Skeletor in the back half of season one is going to have a pretty damn big part in it. So, you know, cool your tits. This is, you know, yeah, this is the first part of it. It's one of those things. I never really buy that argument of like, you're ruining my childhood. Like if you want that classic series, go back and watch that classic series. It's there on YouTube for you. And it was very, exactly. Exactly. You've got two different series you can go back and visit, but
00:53:42
Speaker
They'd complain about that. They would complain about that if it was actually a carbon copy. There would be people say, oh, this is exactly like the original series. Why did they do that? Exactly. Exactly. But from the very beginning, this series was touted as being the continuation. So like looking back at these 80s series, we talked about it being a little formulaic, and it was very
00:54:01
Speaker
episodic but there was always that like ultimate threat like what happens if the power of Castle Grayskull actually does get into Skeletor's hands and we actually get to see that play out and with the character of Tila it was like she was made to forget her destiny
00:54:17
Speaker
But now this is the natural progression. We've seen her forget. Now it's time for her to step in to that role. And like you guys said, it's not He-Man and the Masters of the University of New Orleans, Masters of the University of Revelation. There's going to be some revelations. There's going to be things that you thought were true that are no longer true. That's the definition of a revelation. So it's just...
00:54:38
Speaker
And I know with Tila too, there was that scene at the beginning in the first episode when the sorcerers are sitting there holding stuff back. And she basically said, she's like, if this is it, I wanted to see Tila one more time. And I guess Tila was probably like, what? Why? What is with everyone all of a sudden? I just can't wait for them to just show the fact that
00:55:00
Speaker
Tila is the sources his daughter if they can be there obviously keeping unless that's another one of these Easter eggs that they're making it seem like it is and then they change it. I mean, that's sort of a through line that they have to keep her being the sources his daughter. Yeah, I just I really hope they don't save that until the end of Episode 10. Like, let's address that a little bit earlier.
00:55:20
Speaker
And I was really surprised for characters that were killed off that Sorasaurus wasn't one of them. She's still in the mix right now. So we should still be able to see some scenes between Sorasaurus and Tila.
Future Speculations on Skeletor's Actions
00:55:33
Speaker
Yeah, I'm sure that fall out in the beginning of episode six with Skeletor being in Castle Greyskull now, I mean, like, what's she going to do? It's like, uh, okay.
00:55:50
Speaker
I kind of want to go back to the, just as we're kind of like talking about expectations for the second half here on the, on the subject of like the character of evil Lynn, seeing that we got to see like some of her, her good nature and her, she have those moments with not only Orko, but even, um, you know, Tila, do we think that there's, that's going to be like a through line going into the back half? Do we, I mean, that's the thing about like Skeletor, like in his absence, basically all of his minions.
00:56:18
Speaker
It really seemed like Evil Lin was the only one that missed him even like a little bit. I think if it comes to a point where she realizes that Skeletor is going to lose, and then if Adam's still around or whatever, or the sight of good is going to win, she'll probably slip back over and then help defeat. I mean, because she just seems like she wants to be on the side of whoever's in charge.
00:56:39
Speaker
Cause she did, she did had, like she even said, she's like, I even started liking these kids and then walked over to the, you know, switch sides. Like, okay, there's your true colors right there. She, her end game was not to resurrect Skeletor. Her end game is, is to have the power for herself. Yeah. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah, I think she'll side with whoever she can in order to take on the most power for herself. Fair enough. Fair enough.
00:57:08
Speaker
All right, any characters that didn't pop up here that you're hoping to see show up? I mean, obviously we have a cast list. I don't know if everybody we expect to see has already showed up. Straight off, Zodak, Buzz off, Ram Man. I'm just saying, enough characters. I could have just seen them. They could have easily been placed in that opening battle scene, but it would have probably been just like, oh, you can't waste them just having them be there.
00:57:36
Speaker
So I mean, because those are pretty some of those characters, Hordak, I mean, who knows if that they're gonna even bring in any of that because I mean, he even though he was more on the sheer side, he was still a popular masters of the universe type character, but they couldn't have done just a whole character dump in these first five episodes, I think it was perfect with everyone they brought in served a purpose to an extent.
00:58:00
Speaker
Yeah, like we got a couple good shots of Fisto and Clamchamp. But other than that, it was just like, hey, here's some generic Eternian soldiers. Because I think they knew we weren't going to get backstory for all these A-list heroes. So there wasn't room to bring them all in because it wasn't their story. We didn't have that kind of time.
00:58:23
Speaker
That was cool. I would totally forgot about that when they were charging up and you see Fisto and Clamchamp running next to each other and it's just like, yeah, here we go. Here's some more guys that got figures. Yeah, I went ahead and pulled up the cast list here and if I'm not mistaken, I think the only person that's on this cast list that we did not see in these first five episodes was Harley Quinn Smith's Ileana.
00:58:48
Speaker
Yep. Yeah. Cause they didn't, that was a, that's, I mean, like we did in our primary, that's a super deep cut to one episode of the character that most people don't recognize, but it can be totally different. Character or yeah. I mean, it's, I'm just waiting now to see when they say when this it's, hopefully it's not like transformers where this next series doesn't drop until like December.
00:59:14
Speaker
I think we could be waiting six months. So I think we're going to have plenty of time to rewatch these five episodes again and again.
00:59:23
Speaker
Well, at least on the same note as like being like, there's enough stuff this whole week has been like a, like a reminiscing type thing because I went and saw Snake Eyes today, which was the GIGL movie. And then the final trilogy in the War for Cybertron and Transformers drops next Friday, which is a Beast Wars pretty much centric thing. So it's like it's my grade school years all over again in the manner of like eight days.
00:59:53
Speaker
Now, I guess my final question for you guys is kind of like the more hardcore Masters of the Universe fan. I don't know. Did you guys go over the trailer with a fine tooth comb? Is there anything else that was perhaps in the trailer that could maybe give us some clues about what to expect in these second set of episodes? I think most of the trailer clips were pulled from the first. Most were in the first, but I think they were first, second, and third episodes only.
01:00:23
Speaker
So I think graphically, we hadn't seen anything from episodes four and five. But it's really interesting, the people that did nitpick the trailers with the fine tooth comb, they called that not being He-Man in the cloak, that being Faker.
01:00:39
Speaker
sorceress blowing his arms off i'm like wow people predicted that thing perfectly from the little clips in the trailer and i thought that was a really exciting way to start off the series of seeing faker and then defeated and then oh it's not you know and i'll just action right away made a really exciting first episode.
01:00:59
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Yeah, because they did good. They did a good shot with that because they thought it was Skeletor was one character, and they turned out to be another character. Then it was He-Man, but the He-Man's at Castle Greyskull, and then they cut to a shot at Adam in the at the castle. And it's just like, oh, now this is maybe who I'm trying to think of my mind. Who else could? Oh, it's Faker. Holy crap. OK, go back to there. I want to see what's happening over at Castle Greyskull, because now all three of them are in.
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Castle Greyskull. Yeah. Was Faker's Steed, was that a Stridor? Deep cut there. It was made to look like Stridor, but it was actually Nightstalker in disguise.
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Oh, OK. Cool. Cool. Yes. And then another Easter egg there is they called him Nightmare, which was an original name for Nightstalker, but it was already trademarked for the horse in Dungeons and Dragons. So they couldn't use it from O2. But they got the name in there. And then, yeah, we got to see Spike, Oren, Clawful in an illusion there for just a minute before they dissolved into other characters. OK. All right.
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Well, cool. Um, I think I've, I've said everything that I wanted to say, as far as my instant reactions for this, these first five episodes go, I'm really impressed. I'm really excited to see where we go from here. I think a excellent job to everybody that was involved. Yeah. Anything else you guys want to say?
01:02:35
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I wish it could be. I wish the second half would drop right now. I hope you hear something soon. One more great easter egg was when they went to Snake Mountain and they made it look more like the vintage playset. There's a trapdoor and a literal black
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net that your toy would fall into like that's a part of the show now I just I thought that was so great and then Tila had a line about oh there's only one way to get in and I'm thinking is she just gonna say walk around to the back because the backside of the castle or the mountain is open but get out your shovel I hope you brought one yeah yeah it definitely was a love letter to the kids that are the adults now that played with the toys a lot as as kids in the mid 80s
01:03:19
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Well, sweet, sweet. Well, uh, thank you guys again for appearing on animation deliberation and lending your expertise and your knowledge. Really, uh, appreciate you lending your time. So with that in mind, I will go ahead and, uh, give you an opportunity to let the people know about what you got going on.
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Well, for me, it's just the Source Pages podcast. We're on all the major platforms, comic books and novels that cover primers and continuations and source material for all the geeky TV shows and movies we love. We're doing a lot of Marvel stuff.
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It's my show, but I think it's a fun show. We're getting a lot of positive reaction from it. It's just fun to talk about. Like even coming on here, this is a labor of love because it's fun talking about age stuff that I love and be finally getting able to talk about stuff like this in a more collective way instead of just geeking out with your friends. It's kind of cool. So that's what we do over on that podcast. Definitely. Dale?
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Nothing really to plug other than don't pay attention to the negative reviews. I'm hoping over the next five, six months or however long until we get some more episodes, we'll get to see people explain what they didn't like about it.
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more, versus just saying it's terrible, it ruined my childhood, etc. So there's plenty of Facebook groups where you can get both sides of the issue. And then for even more conversation, check out the forums on heman.org. Sweet, sweet.
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For myself, I'll do a little bit of shameless plugging here. I'm hoping with Masters of the Universe dropping, maybe we've gotten a few new listeners, if that's the case. It's been a while since we've gotten a new review, so drop us a review. We are still a relatively new show, so we'd appreciate the love if you like what we're doing here.
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let us know that we're doing a good job. Other than that, I am appearing on some Benjers Assemble coverage for the upcoming James Gunn version of Suicide Squad. So we had a lot of fun. Matthew Carroll and Ashley Coffin, both of the Marvel Cinematic Universe podcast, join me for that one. And that was a lot of fun. So keep your ears out for that one. And I think that'll do it. So keep tuning in. That's T-double-O-N-I-N.
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