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Air Force One (1997)
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This week on the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris board Air Force One as another ass kicking president, Viola Davis in G20, hits Prime Video.
Harrison Ford is President James Marshall, who finds himself having to go full John McClane when terrorists led by the ruthless Egor Korshunov (Gary Oldman) manage to hijack Air Force One. President Marshall has to fight to rescue his family and stop a genocidal neo-Soviet leader from being released. Zach and Chris discuss all the great "That Guy" actors in the movie, Xander Berkeley's endgame, using "Get Off My Plane" as a campaign slogan, Gary Oldman wisely passing on Speed 2: Cruise Control for this movie, and more.
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Transcript
Introduction and Overview
00:00:03
Speaker
Welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the official podcast of EverythingAction.com.
Movie Analysis: Air Force One
00:00:18
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Everything Action Cast podcast week of April 7th, 2025. I'm your host, Zach. And I'm your co-host, Chris. this week we are boarding Air Force One with Harrison Ford because...
00:00:32
Speaker
Amazon has a new kick-ass president movie that's out right now if you're hearing this on Prime Video. g twenty where Viola Davis is the president. um But obviously Harrison Ford is one of the OG kick-ass presidents. um And also Air Force One is diehard on Air Force One.
00:00:53
Speaker
think G20 is basically diehard at G20.
00:00:57
Speaker
But ah I think Force One, it was kind of like i was reading it's just's just sort of like the tail end of a diehard trend, and then it kind of like it's come back in recent years, but this is kind of like one of the last ah diehard in a blank movies for the 90s.
00:01:16
Speaker
I could see that. It definitely was, i guess, one of the peak stuck in a one like setting movie, action movie, that Not only did it have to deal with the setting, because it's on a plane, it's also like one man versus a group, or one person versus like a terrorist group.
00:01:43
Speaker
Plains have it done, because there was passenger 57, there was ah executive decision... What was another one like Ray Lola was ah on one of them? Turbulence?
00:01:56
Speaker
Turbulence. Was that terrorist or was that just it was like a za it was like disaster? think it was just him. He was just a criminal all that knew how to fly a plane.
00:02:09
Speaker
I think one of the Turbius movies did have like some
Presidents as Action Heroes: A Trend?
00:02:11
Speaker
sort of terrorist threat. Maybe like two or three, but I think the first one was kind of just ah but somebody has to fly this plane, it's really auto life this criminal roof transporting, but happens to be a pilot.
00:02:22
Speaker
But, you know, in a weird way, I also feel like this was the unofficial sequel to A President's men Man. It's the same premise if you thought, okay, it's too unlikely that the president would be the one saving himself.
00:02:36
Speaker
What if then, like, his special agent, bodyguard, whatever, like, did it? And it's like, no, that's been done already. It's been done, like, four times.
00:02:47
Speaker
The President's Man was later, but it was like 2000. No, no, it it was like... Wait, was it? Yeah. Because they made it they mean it they made it after Walker, Texas Ranger. It was like the same team that made Walker, Texas Ranger, basically.
00:03:02
Speaker
wow I always thought the President's Man was like the same time. I mean, it feels like mid-90s movie, but it's, yeah, 2000. Wow. And the sequel's 2002.
00:03:14
Speaker
Yeah, so I confused this error. So, wow. So I got it backwards. This one came back.
00:03:23
Speaker
I think i i think you also hear ah Air Force One is probably my favorite non-franchise Harrison Ford movie. You know, outside the Blade Runners and the Star Wars and the Indiana Joneses. Well, okay.
00:03:36
Speaker
You didn't think you didn't like The Witness? I mean, The Witness is great.
00:03:43
Speaker
but i mean air But Air Force One is when you one of those TNT, if it's on TNT or if it was on TNT back in the day, no matter where it was, I'd watch it.
00:03:55
Speaker
I could see that. And i think i think I think definitely one one of the best Die Hard at Blank movies
Nostalgia and Presidential Heroism
00:04:03
Speaker
i yeah Yeah, yeah. I mean, okay, it's one of those... pete Like, it didn't have any stigmas yet. It's one of those, if you've never seen Die Hard, if this is one of your first Die Hard-like movies, this is, like, pretty good.
00:04:19
Speaker
I just think Die Hard movies eventually became more of a niche film category, so they did a more broad one, because...
Tom Clancy's Influence on Cinema
00:04:30
Speaker
America knows what a president is. like Everyone in America is all aware of what a president was back in the 90s. Now it's like, watch a president kick ass in a Clinton-era presidency. trying to think another where president was the action hero.
00:04:48
Speaker
this like another like where like the president was you know the action hero
00:04:55
Speaker
Can you name one? I'm trying to think of one. I can't think of any. Because usually it's more of an Olympus has fallen thing. Where it's like, the president is a hostage. Save the president. It's like a kick-ass secret service agent or an FBI agent. Or a random guy who's there.
00:05:16
Speaker
I feel like there has to be more than five.
00:05:22
Speaker
i know i White House down, like, Jamie Foxx is the president, and he helps out. Like, he and Shane Tatea basically team up. and And obviously, now seen i mean we have Willa Davis in G20. Oh, okay. You know what came out before this that is, like, that counts?
00:05:38
Speaker
Independence Day. Yes. that's that's That's probably the other big one, yeah. Bill Pullman, fighter pilot, president. And then even before that... maybe escape from New York, but even then, it's like he was more of the hostage than yeah like active participant. But he does fight back at the end.
00:05:59
Speaker
So, mix mixed group. yeah um But yeah, not so much that he's actually like a big big factor in the movie. And yeah, I guess like White House down, where he's more of the buddy cop comedy. That's what I said. Jamie Foxx and Terry Tatum are a kind of Like, buddy cops.
00:06:19
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:06:24
Speaker
It also, if it kind of feels like, if they had said this was a sequel to, like, the Jack Ryan movies, and this is just Jack Ryan as president, that would have made sense, too. I would be fine with that, because I think that happens in... In the book, yeah, the novel, he doesn't become president, yeah.
Air Force One: In-Depth Review
00:06:39
Speaker
I don't know, there's specifically not a Tom Clancy book where, like, Air Force One gets hijacked, but... Uh, not hijacked, but just, like, the whole presidency is thrown. Uh, if you ever looked at, uh, if you ever played Tom Clancy's End War, Jack Ryan is, like, constantly trying to defend, like, domestic terrorism and stuff, like, from, um, people invading the U.S.,
00:07:05
Speaker
So it's not just Air Force One, it's just like every everywhere is the war-torn US. um I really wish they actually make End War into something. Like a movie?
00:07:16
Speaker
A movie, a TV show. I think a TV show, just to break it down. But you have to earn that. That's like the MCU's Infinity War the novels. Because you have to explain what a ghost recon is, you have to explain what like ah all the other sub-sects Yeah, there's like there's there's lot of Tom Clancy stuff that hasn't gotten an adaptation yet.
00:07:36
Speaker
like We barely just got to a Splinter Cells, but that's in End War. I think there might be an End War novel. I'm sure there is. don't want to read that now.
00:07:48
Speaker
They tease like ma tease Rainbow at the end of ah Without Remorse, but they haven't followed up on that yet either. forgot that. but Without Remorse is a Tom Clancy thing. Mm-hmm.
00:08:02
Speaker
Anyway, but Air Force One, let's jump into the actual movie. Directed by Wolfgang Peterson, the late Wolfgang Peterson, who has directed tons of great movies. I think right before this, he directed Outbreak and and also In the Line of Fire. so you like In the Line Fire, he was already in that kind of president action mode.
00:08:21
Speaker
And then after this, he made the Perfect Storm and Troy and Poseidon.
00:08:27
Speaker
And Harrison Ford, and then you got a cast of be arguably the most that guys ever in a movie. like It's just wall-to-wall that guys.
00:08:40
Speaker
got William H. Macy, you got Dean Stockwell, you got Paul Guilfoyle, you got Xander Berkley, got Glenn Morshauer. It's like every every couple minutes, like some some new like character actors popping up.
00:08:56
Speaker
I think like an hour in, like, Philip Baker Hall shows up, and oh, Philip Baker Hall is in this movie? Yeah, there there's a lot of fun, um like, character actors that show up, just look good in, like, suits, and seem very governmental.
00:09:12
Speaker
Well, yeah, you because you need a ton of generals, you need a ton of, like, secretaries of whatever department they're secretaries for, you need Secret Service guys... yeah all kinds of, uh, government you mean actors that have very commanding performances because of how, like, I guess governmental they all have to act.
00:09:31
Speaker
Um, I, I could see this get derailed if they hired like younger looking people and then people watching this are just confused. Like who's this 25 year old, like press secretary, like, or who, why is the, the, um, the head of the NSA, like some kid. Mm hmm.
00:09:50
Speaker
like oh this is the This is why... ah What's his face? like Harrison Ford's character ran on just like, I hired young governmental workers. like Some crazy James Marshall law. It's like, listen.
00:10:07
Speaker
like I think you have to be like 30-something to be president. Like 34? I think, yeah, 35 maybe. thirty five Yeah, to be president. But if he was just like...
00:10:18
Speaker
the sleek, young, 20-something-year-old president, and you're like, whoa. In this cabinet of just young TikTok teens. I mean, that was this is like way before that stuff happened. so Right, right, right.
00:10:30
Speaker
But I could see a dumb Air Force One remake. But, um yeah, like I kind of enjoy this, where this is every actor that kind of is like approaching that. You're no longer a young actor, right?
00:10:43
Speaker
like everyone here is a family actor or at least like is convincing that they have experience like in their like whatever they're claiming to be in this movie. like ah Gary Oldman, he's on the same level as like Harrison Ford of believability of, I believe this guy is a terrorist leader.
00:11:02
Speaker
Same way I believe Harrison Ford is the president. yeah Gary Oldman, just another... killer villain role. I mean, he just... I mean, obviously Gary Oldman crushes everything, but he, like, especially crushed it in this movie. Like, he's so good.
00:11:18
Speaker
And apparently, he was, like, he had gotten offered Speed 2 Cruise Control, and he... that I think he passed that, and then did this, which was a, you know, smart move.
00:11:32
Speaker
Can you imagine him in... I mean, I'm sure he would have crushed it in Speed 2 Cruise Control, and like, the Willing to Foe role, but... Oh, man. It's so funny to think he was offered that, and then he backed out. He's just like, hmm, do you want to be on a boat, or do you want to be on a plane?
00:11:49
Speaker
But I feel like William Dafoe knew that Speed 2 was going to be silly. it was like, it probably started serious, but then as soon as he read more and more of the script, he just like, oh, God, no.
00:12:01
Speaker
I'm putting leeches on myself because I got poisoned by computer equipment.
00:12:06
Speaker
I have to capture Sandra Bullock because... Reasons? I forgot why he even why your brings her along. though i mean it's It's just because she happens to be on the cruise ship he wanted to attack, but he i think he I think he created the...
00:12:24
Speaker
um ah like the autopilot system or something for, or the computer systems, but then you got copper poisoning. so
Action and Realism in Air Force One
00:12:32
Speaker
But like, of all the people to bring on your like, secondary escape route, why'd you bring the guy to? Oh, yeah, just like, like it's like, yeah, his final scheme to like, escape.
00:12:43
Speaker
Steal like the one person who's foiling you the entire time. Right, because again, not to deviate so much, speed one, Dennis Hopper was like, he grabbed the girl because like,
00:12:55
Speaker
He knew that was like a weakness towards the guy. Speed 2, there are a thousand people, like more than enough people, and he didn't really care about like fucking with the the guy. Like he was just sort of like, I need get out of here.
00:13:10
Speaker
Yeah, there's funny these probably like a rich socialite or like a rich like businessman you could probably have like ah kidnapped and halt for ransom or something. that's why Oldman was smart, because he went for the president.
00:13:22
Speaker
Yes. And his family, like it was everyone he would want on that plane. And it was like, Gary Oldman, all he wanted to do was get his friend out prison, or his boss.
00:13:35
Speaker
It's just like, it doesn't say, because like Gary Oldman is just as competent as the general. So yeah, so General Radek, who is the main, like one of the main, I guess, kind of outside of everything, but is also like one of the villains, but he that he took over kazakista Kazakhstan, which I feel like this is the first like mention of Kazakhstan i before Borat really blew it up later on.
00:13:59
Speaker
and he And they're like ah you know ah Russian ultranationalists. They want them like the old Soviet Union back together. But then there's a Black Ops US-Russian special forces mission that captures Radek.
00:14:12
Speaker
And so he's in like a Russian prison. And that's why Gary Oldman and his crew want to that come up with their plan because they'll they can force the president to release Radek. it Because in this because in this in this wacky alternate universe, like the Russian president is best friends with the U.S. president.
00:14:33
Speaker
And it is very... U.S. and Russia have a very like great relationship. They're doing these joint missions together.
00:14:46
Speaker
ah So, it's also weird that, like, within the Russian military, there's, like, a neo-defective section that, in retrospect, is like... So, were they, like, the pro-terrorist part of the government? Like, they were the most extreme of the Soviets?
00:15:09
Speaker
Well, I mean, it's post-Soviet Union, obviously, but they wanted they want it back to, practice like, the glory of the Soviet Union, and that that they think. You know what's crazy? That's what modern Russia is. Stop saying it's like a weird alternate. This is like such a wacky alternate universe.
00:15:25
Speaker
like But even then, do they think that like there was a soft time in Russia? Maybe in the 80s when, like, Gorbachev was around, but I think as soon as, like,
00:15:38
Speaker
Was it someone else like overtook him? I'm not really good at Russian history. yeah I just feel like in the 90s and until even now, it's like it's always been like more of a, hey, we need to conquer more of the Soviet territories again.
00:15:55
Speaker
Well, Gary Oldman has a whole monologue, I think, toward the end. when, or like, someone someone asks, says him, like, what what are your intentions? Oh, and he's talking to Glenn Close, um who's the vice president, and she's like, what are your intentions? And he's like, you cannot understand my intentions when they drag the capitalists out on the streets and murder kill them, and the Soviet Union is glorious again, then you'll know my intentions.
00:16:19
Speaker
So yeah, so they're basically, they think they follow Radek, they think Radek can bring back, you know, the old Soviet Union and retake all the territory and throw out the capitalist pigs and all that stuff.
00:16:36
Speaker
but But he just... i get he He had nuclear missiles, too. like He had access to nuclear like weapons as well in Kazakhstan. So that's part of the reason they stopped him and why he's like such a threat, I guess.
00:16:49
Speaker
It's such a it's such a like a minor point of like, oh, also he has nuclear weapons.
00:16:56
Speaker
It's funny, too, because our nuclear football is such like a minor like thing. You think it would be ah a major thing? like The guy who's carrying the football gets murdered when they take over Air Force One. But then theyre like there's a guy who's like, I changed the codes. We're good. It's just like, all right.
00:17:09
Speaker
That's easy. It makes such a big deal of like showing the guy with like the nuclear football on Air Force One. Yeah. you know For like a nuclear threat, it seemed very calm about that. like I forget that. It's also like they need that.
00:17:28
Speaker
But then like it's more just threatening like to give into their demands to release the general for like at least a good amount. Like it's not like, oh, we have the codes.
00:17:39
Speaker
We have um the president right here.
00:17:44
Speaker
Like they don't have the president for almost like two thirds of the movie. Well, they they they take over the plane, which is an awesome, super intense, like fantastic shootout action sequence.
00:17:56
Speaker
And then Secret Service thinks they bring ah President Marshall to the escape pod, which does not exist, apparently, in Air Force One. even though it's been used in three different movies, have used like the escape pod thing and it's not really a thing.
00:18:10
Speaker
But um if they they try to put him in the escape pod. He stays behind and is then is doing like his John McClane thing in the bowels of Air Force One. and
00:18:22
Speaker
um And then lots of great, just like smart, um kind you know, diehard-esque things of, you know, Airster Ford figuring out how to um try to get the advantage or like distract the terrorists or, you know, get some information.
00:18:41
Speaker
Like he rummages people's like luggage to find like a satellite phone. That's how was able to like call the White House.
00:18:49
Speaker
yeah I also forget that he's actually like a decorative soldier. Yeah, it's great. one of the generals is like, let's not forget that this president is a Medal of Honor winner and a helicopter combat pilot.
00:19:04
Speaker
know, we're like, wait, whoa. It's something that's not brought up until when he's missing and stuff, and then he's fighting back. It's not so much the... ah the beginning intro where, you know, i would rather see that in the background. Like if they walked past his office and he has like,
00:19:24
Speaker
the the metal on the wall or like, or even something more aggressive where it's like a gun, you know, it's just like, you know, like it's sort of like him polishing a gun and he's like, right, you're leave. He's like yeah. And then just like puts it away. Cause I don't need that. Like it's going to be, it's going to be about politics. I'm talking, I don't, I don't need this, you know, like to show that, yeah, he might be the president, but he's also like a warrior.
00:19:47
Speaker
So in this one you find out because Okay, because i think like around this era, Harrison Ford wasn't in an action movie for at least like two years.
00:19:58
Speaker
um I'm going double check that, but I feel like the last movie he made but before this was like six days and seven nights. are like That was the year after. um my God. i'm um but you know mean like ah The Fugitive was four years four years before this.
00:20:13
Speaker
and thenm I'm counting that. The Devil's Own was the same year. knew that one. Yeah. yeah Yeah, not until like... um I mean, like can I team the Widowmaker? I don't know. It's like a so not really like an action... like I mean, I guess it is like an action thriller, but it's like a more of like Oh no, so The Devil's Own, kinda. Yeah, so that's sort of an action-y movie, but it's overshadowed. like I think... um I remember The Devil's Own.
00:20:41
Speaker
I saw it on TV like twice. ah But... Yeah, I think Air Force One definitely blew that one out of the water. Claire Ponson's agent was 94, so that was like the last that was like probably the last big Harrison Ford action movie where he's doing Harrison Ford punches and yelling about his family. If you haven't seen The Devil's Own, it's all of that.
00:21:04
Speaker
And he's a Boston cop, I believe. But... yeah the Is he yelling about his family that he needs his family back? He doesn't need it back.
00:21:15
Speaker
He invited like a stranger in his home and it's like, he shouldn't have done that, but he regrets it. I gotta rewatch the Devil's Own, because we've been talking about it. Where's my family?
00:21:29
Speaker
i also remember, like, I think mike my family watched Sabrina a lot, the 1995 movie, where, like, you it's like he falls in love with this woman who was dating his brother.
00:21:42
Speaker
But, anyway. Yeah, so, in this era of Harrison Ford, it really was, like, a lot of dad action, like, Yeah, he did he did all he did the Jack Ryan movies, goes and then The Fugitive.
00:21:56
Speaker
And then, did you really get back to that until, like, the mid-2000s? Like, Firewall and... i would um Hollywood... Hollywood Homicide. Hollywood Homicide, kinda. Hollywood Homicide's more like a a comedy movie, with like slate with, like, one bizarre, crazy, like, 30-minute-long action sequence at the end.
00:22:14
Speaker
Just to cram it in, like, oh shit, we forgot this is an action comedy. Yeah, people came for, like, a buddy cop action movie. we're just doing all these like weird asides. We'll get into that when that anniversary pops up.
00:22:25
Speaker
in ah in In three years. 2003.
00:22:32
Speaker
ah But yeah. With this though, it's funny because he really just acts like Harrison Ford in most of the scenes ah until he has to like stealth through the
Character Dynamics and Political Intrigue
00:22:43
Speaker
plane.
00:22:43
Speaker
But um there's no indication that he was ready to kill. Like That's why it comes at a surprise like second act where he is like sneaking around. He's like trying to figure out what to do. And he might look nervous looking.
00:23:00
Speaker
It's that Harrison Ford where it looks like he's just kind of guessing what to do next. But it's like he has a plan.
00:23:06
Speaker
I call that his Indiana Jones face. and I'm not sure about but it's the same attitude where Indiana Jones doesn't look like he knows what he's going to do next. And he sort of just locks his way through things.
00:23:19
Speaker
But I think he's supposed to come off as more intelligent where it's like, no, this is part of the plan. It's like, really? Yeah, he does he does come yeah he comes with a bunch of stuff. like yeah He finds the phone.
00:23:31
Speaker
um but also i like that he's used the owner's manual of the phone he doesn't know how use it. He has to read that first and use it. it's like it's It's like a super complicated 90s satellite phone. It's like just like it looks like a laptop. I think it's like the satellite like dish or some sort of like other thing have to plug into the phone to use it.
00:23:49
Speaker
And then, it's still like 80s technology cell phones. Yeah. It just didn't evolve. And then he comes up with like the idea to start leaking gas, like fuel, um which, you know, it forces, because he thinks it'll force them to land. There's a great back and forth where like, like Harrison Ford will do something and then it seems like that might give him the advantage but then like Gary Oldman is able like pull it back and force him like to, like,
00:24:13
Speaker
Hairship IV dumps the fuel and then Gary Omen kills someone is like, you're going to fuel us or I'm going to kill every hostage every minute. So they get refueled. But then they're able to use the refueling to do the parachutes where they can get to a certain height and speed and they can every like parachute off the plane. and it's a great It's clever. It's clever to introduce something and counter it.
00:24:36
Speaker
So it doesn't feel like it's a MacGuffin and they didn't address it and they said, okay, well, it's movie magic. Don't worry about it. And issue and it makes it makes both, like, Gary Oldman and Harry Sephora are both, like, super tactical, super intelligent. and they've like It's, like, a great, like, face-off when you have that.
00:24:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's what said. Like, it's not a movie where the villain is gonna muscle his way through things. He's got a plan. If he sees something, he can figure out, like, what the the logistic like the logistic move would be to do it. It's not like, okay, well, let's just go down there and just, like, strangle, like...
00:25:16
Speaker
the gas line shut, you know? Let's yell at it.
00:25:22
Speaker
um But of course, they've they're terrorists. They got the upper hand. They'll just start doing what terrorists would do of, like, hostaging. I also like, I took a little, I looked into it where the novel gets very, like,
00:25:38
Speaker
ah political with it, or like, know what the right word is, but it's like... It fleshes out more of... hair ah you You learn a lot more about President Marshall. like you look There's a thing about like how he has like a don't negotiate with terrorists mindset, where it's like, I will handle it, and it's like, okay, there is the greater good and the sacrifice for...
00:26:01
Speaker
um the don't give it a terrorist demands that like he would do he would rather like die than uh to show than to show like weakness as his like stance which is that's what it goes in the book like it's more about that philosophy the like i would rather like go down swinging well that's what you you see at the beginning because after after they capture radak he has like that he's in russia for like a a state dinner and he gives a speech about how the u.s isn't going to stay in the silence anymore we're gonna like
00:26:33
Speaker
seek out terrorists and stop them before they start doing things. It's crazy because it's like, even if I have to do it, like, well... I will personally fly a helicopter into whatever country and start, like, doing bombing runs.
00:26:49
Speaker
i think the big thing in the book, too, is also that it reveals why the hell Xander Berkeley is a mole. Which is kind of important. it's it's the book The book apparently got paid off, yeah so that's kind of like the simplest explanation.
00:27:04
Speaker
And I guess they they wrote scenes for the movie that would explain it, but then Wolfgang Peters was like, no, we don't need to explain it.
00:27:12
Speaker
But it's it's so it's it's it's so weird, especially the end. like I don't know what the hell his plan is at the end. ah I think he was just trying to get on the thing. He didn't care if like it would bleed to He just wanted to like live. Yeah, because I had the same question, too. Where you can't be like, okay, no, like the president decided to stay behind. Or like later on, they find the bodies. It's like, yeah all these people have gunshot wounds. And it's like, what happened? It's like, I wanted to live.
00:27:41
Speaker
yeah because like it's harder to argue It's easier to argue that than to, I guess, like, get on the plane and then try to deal with way more witnesses. Because he seems like a pretty high-ranking, like, Secret Service agent. Like, he seems like the but head Secret Service agent of, like, the Air Force One.
00:28:00
Speaker
so so but it's like, how would he even explain that he let the president, like, sacrifice himself. Like, he's supposed to sacrifice himself for the president. It's just like, well, the president said I could i could i could live, so like I left.
00:28:13
Speaker
It's like, no you know, not only that, so, yeah, good point, because we're going to the end game of it, but, uh, I guess was like, oh, ah he didn't want to shoot him because it looked bad later.
00:28:29
Speaker
So he's going to try to threaten him first.
00:28:33
Speaker
But he has his line, like, like because Harrison Ford's like, I trusted you with my life. And then everybody everybody's like, so will the next president. but it's like, you don't have a job, dude. Like, if you lived like if you lived and Paris-Sophore died, you're the Secret Service agent who let Air Force One get hijacked, and then, like, the president got killed in, like, the middle of the ocean on Air Force One when crashed. Like, no one's... you're Like, you're not in the Secret Service anymore.
00:29:00
Speaker
Okay, maybe you get downgraded from whatever high ranking to just, like, middle. What, the lowest tier? Like, if the Secret Service has, like, an outpost in like, Alaska or something?
00:29:11
Speaker
but Just in case the president wants to stop by one day. They're chasing all that ah counterfeit Alaska money.
00:29:25
Speaker
Isn't it just like excited is is that weird like to see your service is protecting the president and like counterfeit money? Yeah. Well, they have to like look at it, but also feel like that doesn't get into... Does that come into the movie where it's like, oh, they're they're running some sort of counterfeit scheme during this?
00:29:45
Speaker
They don't mention that, right? No. But I feel like that would be kind of like a lot if you try to say, oh, it's like maybe Xander was like whatever the actor is. Xander Berkeley. Yeah.
00:29:57
Speaker
Gibbs. Gibbs. That's it. Whatever Gibbs is doing, he's also in charge of that, too. So it's like, oh, like we've been running fun. He's been running funding to the Russians, that this neo-Russian group.
00:30:09
Speaker
something Yeah, you give us something. just like There's no explanation of why he took turns mole. and then i mean i think he just you just assume he got paid off or something. but and it just Especially the end. He's panicking and has no endgame. Maybe that's why.
00:30:24
Speaker
He's not the brains. He's the...
00:30:29
Speaker
well maybe that's why it's like he he's not the smart he's not the brain he's the But I feel like to be a seat like a head secret service agent, you have to be intelligent.
00:30:42
Speaker
yeah But I guess at that point, we're on a plane that's about to crash. And then then it's odd, too, because he doesn't really do anything. like he He helps them get the weapons because he opens like the gun cabinet.
00:30:52
Speaker
But he doesn't really do he has do anything. but whole He's not like hindering anything else the rest of the movie. He's like he's in with the rest of the hostages. which i guess He's like the ace in the hole, I guess, maybe, or something. If he's thinking it really bad, Gary Holman's like, well, guess what?
00:31:05
Speaker
Your secret service agent is my agent.
00:31:10
Speaker
So, yeah, that'd be nice if it that was the one of the big fights at the end. ah That kind of gets brought up. But I also feel like he didn't have to like let them know that he was the mole.
00:31:26
Speaker
ah He was going to get away with it if anything was going to go smoothly. Hmm.
00:31:32
Speaker
i don't I don't know what what was he to because Gary Oldman reveals that that their plan is, what they release Radek, and then they would fly to Kazakhstan, and then basically force the president to do more things for them.
00:31:44
Speaker
But were they just going to like, like, let Xander Berkley is like, here hey, here's your, you know, like a million bison books, like, go do whatever you want now.
00:31:54
Speaker
I guess so. like I guess if you just get paid, just like leave. Yeah, all his job was to get on that plane and then let all these people in. oh Yeah, open open the gun cabinet.
00:32:08
Speaker
Which, man, Air Force One is also like, they they're loaded for bear. They have M16s, they got MP5s, they all kinds of weapons on that thing. Yeah, they're pretty much a mobile like strike force on that plane, which is kind of weird because it feels like all the trained people are, was like five people.
00:32:29
Speaker
Yeah, it seemed like there was yeah like six six or seven Secret Service agents, and then there was a couple... like I mean, there's other military... William H. Macy's an Air Force colonel or something, or an Air Force like um but major.
00:32:44
Speaker
But that's weird, this's weird because like he's Air Force, but he doesn't know how to fly. That's like the like the thing at the end of... like but They have take over they to to fly the plane. He's just like, do you fly? He's like, no All right, you're helping me. Yeah, that is weird.
00:33:00
Speaker
it it is weird It is weird, too. Like, this movie... um Like, they they they beat Gary Oldman, like, an hour and half in. And then there' there's yeah then it like it turns into, like, Top Gun for like, 30 minutes.
00:33:14
Speaker
Where it's like, have to fight, like, Migs. Well, yeah. So, like you know what's even weird is that... So they're, like, in Russian airspace. They're leaving Russia...
00:33:28
Speaker
Russia is not sending any help. It's not making any attempt to like, just observe the the situation and then get back to like America to help.
00:33:40
Speaker
There is no neighboring country like waiting or anything. It really is just like, Hey America, you deal with this. Yeah. It's it's your plane.
00:33:51
Speaker
But yeah, look, like, the the The loyalists who are flying maybe like behind Air Force One, who are just waiting for the signal to take it down if the the plans are going wrong?
00:34:06
Speaker
Well, they launch because they kill Radek. There's the whole thing at the end where Gary Oldman gets the president and then ah you forces him to call the Russian president because he threatens his family.
00:34:21
Speaker
So they they're they're in the process of releasing Radek, which like luckily is like a super elaborate, super long ah chain of events to like get him to get his uniform back, get him all his personal property, the get a helicopter to fly to it and pick him up.
00:34:36
Speaker
but debt But then we get the the whole like final fight with Gary Oldman, we get yeah and get the iconic get-off-my-plane Harrison Ford one-liner.
00:34:47
Speaker
Which, I mean, arguably this memorable part of this movie is to get off my plane.
00:34:54
Speaker
Great line. Also, great kill. It's not even like Harrison Ford personally strangles like Gary Oldman or anything. It's a great neck snap. like one of the best like Gary Oldman has like he's like got a parachute and the parachute is pulling him one way and then like the president wraps a strap around his neck and then it pulls him and snaps his neck.
00:35:17
Speaker
You get the creation almost like of like dead dead Gary Oldman is like flying away in a parachute.
00:35:25
Speaker
but yeah but But the de president manages to call the Russian president back and then they kill they stop Radek. He's about to get out of his helicopter and fly back to Kazakhstan. But they kill him um and then that's then ah the his loyal fighter pilots take off for revenge because they killed Radek. We have to blow up the president.
00:35:48
Speaker
Yeah, it it's also like when they let Radek go, they they leave him sort of like in this slow-paced prisoner like exchange that like i I could feel like in a real standoff, like it wouldn't be that intense and you don't let your arm like people pick them up you know as like a prisoner pickup that's what I'm saying like thankfully it was such a long drawn out process they had plenty of time to you know fight fight Gary Oldman kill him and then get back and like call the president back yeah so like wouldn't there be like a press or something in Russia they like hey they're releasing this like president blah blah blah like I don't know how the press works in Russia but I'm pretty sure that would be on the news
00:36:38
Speaker
At least now it would be way more publicized. There seems to be some of the guards working at the prison are like Radek royalists. The one guy's just breathlessly telling Gary Oldman, they're releasing the general! He's gonna be free! He's gonna be free! And then yeah, they just shoot him and it's like, probably could have done that before. Probably could have just done that and not have any threat from Radek.
00:37:09
Speaker
Because everyone's just like super stoked about it.
00:37:15
Speaker
but like You'll kill them at that in that that Black Ops ah operation they did the beginning of the opening of the movie.
00:37:26
Speaker
Yeah, I also feel like for a Russian military group, they are, i mean, for both sides, they are just open about, like, I wear this color, you wear that color. There's no, like, secret covert, like, thing.
00:37:40
Speaker
You know, like, it's weird. that The neo-separatist area, they, like, pose as journalists. They get on board on this. Mm-hmm. they... I'm assuming Gibbs got them all their credentials too? Yeah, that's what thinking too. Because they have their fingerprints in the system, they have press credentials, they knew they were coming out Russian news team.
00:38:11
Speaker
But they mentioned like afterwards, like well, you need someone on the inside to forge You can't just forge documents and get on Air Force One.
00:38:19
Speaker
Yeah, but I guess he's the one who checks it, or one of the people who proves. Clears them to get on the plane because they're good to go.
00:38:36
Speaker
Which, but but the most important part of his payment was you know get us on the plane and then like pop the weapons open. I to see a scene of him like like talking to them on the phone. or or like How did they even like find him? How did they find Gibbs and like be like, hey, are you are you fed up with the Secret Service? you want to You want to make some money? You want to make some rubles?
00:38:56
Speaker
yeah there's Yeah. There's so much about Gibbs that we're just like, what is he doing? it's It's weird because... um ah Gibbs didn't seem like, like, he just had generic bad guy thing. You don't really know his background. You don't know his motive. He just wanted to be on the bad guy's team.
00:39:20
Speaker
Yeah. Even to the point where when he was, like, forced to do his job again, where because the bad guys were just were on the plane, yeah he was on the losing side. He didn't get found out. Like, the president wasn't asking him questions like, hey, like,
00:39:34
Speaker
you know, we gotta find out who gave him the guns, or, like, we gotta find out, you know, how people got past our security. It's like, Gibbs wasn't even scared. I love, there's a great little beat where, um, where, um, Gibbs is holding the one guy, um, like, I guess the wall after they take the plane back, and then the president gives him, like, a big thumbs up, and then Gibbs gives him, like, this, like, really super fake, like, smile, and then it's like, he just sloughs back down like, bad guy mode afterwards.
00:40:02
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, Gid is the one who who just sort of like, whatever whatever team is winning, I'm on their side.
00:40:10
Speaker
i I play both sides, I'll never lose. yep Until it comes down to like, there's one wire left. There's another thing too, like so many you can see such like a variety of planes in this movie. Outside of Air Force 1, you get to see like the but refueling plane that blows up.
00:40:32
Speaker
um And then, like, the... ah I forget what their actual, like, job is. I think they say like they're, like, an like an airstrip ah tactical team or something.
00:40:44
Speaker
um But they... ah it's It's, like, a special forces, like, para-jumper team, but then they have like they can help they do, like, the mid-air rescue. Yeah, yeah, the low parachute, I guess...
00:41:04
Speaker
A para-rescue? i don't i don't know if they're a rescue team. One journal says they're like a like airstrip tactical... like I think they parachute on to airstrips to take them or something.
00:41:16
Speaker
But they have they just happen to have like is like this cabling that they can use to do the rescue.
00:41:28
Speaker
Which, yeah, just... Cool idea. um and then, i like, like i it's right after, like, the MIGs, like, basically, like, blow up, like, like severely damaged Air Force 1s. It's basically, like, on its way down. It's crashing, like, at just a failing.
00:41:43
Speaker
Yeah, thank God that whatever they're, like, crashing into was just, like, an opening. The ocean, yeah. And not just, like, anywhere else.
00:41:52
Speaker
Yeah, I gotta say, though, like, um... The one thing that definitely does not hold up is that crash. I mean, it look it does not look good. It's it's like 90s CG. it's it's It's rough. Everything else about the movie is fantastic. That is like, it needs like a remaster or something.
00:42:12
Speaker
Yeah, it feels like i'm watching an insurance commercial where it's like a Geico graphics or something.
00:42:20
Speaker
It skids and it looks like there's no like physics to the plane. it just start to say yes we say the The physics seemed like totally off. like It does like i like stands on its head at one point and then flips around. I
00:42:34
Speaker
like because i but i get the idea. i understood what i was trying to do. It just did not look well.
00:42:41
Speaker
They were just like, like well, we got to i mean we've done everything else there for so we gotta blow it up or crash it or do something.
00:42:50
Speaker
We spent so much time on it.
00:42:55
Speaker
Which, um, like they did take a, they like, Wolfgang Peterson, like part of the crew, like took a tour of the actual Air Force One at the time. And then they basically based like all the sets on that tour they took.
00:43:08
Speaker
And then they kind of they added like the parachute ramp and the skate pod because those aren't actually features of Air Force One.
Cultural Impact and Patriotism
00:43:16
Speaker
Yeah, I think um they wanted to keep it very, uh, this movie like plot centric because it's not like you can't just have that and then like would be weird if it's like okay well you can't do that so you got to have like a MacGuffin thing show up like it doesn't be like a tugboat shows up then we do all this it does do great job like you know exactly where everything is like at all time like it's like there's the upstairs command center where Gary Oldman is you got the hostage room you got the downstairs downstairs
00:43:51
Speaker
but like where like the it's like the kitchen and the avionics room it's like you do a great job of like showing like like you know like where everything is like like the uh um but like so like sense of space and where like where where like Harrison Ford is and where he's going and I also love that like since he's the president he knows all these like little like nooks and crannies to like get through like yeah he escapes its like a dumbwaiter think at one point to get back downstairs mm-hmm mm-hmm Because there's a scene where they chase him down the hallway into like the bathrooms, and they shoot all the bathrooms, and there's like no one in any of them.
00:44:26
Speaker
And you find out that snuck into that little crawlspace got out. So I'm wondering if harris if like the president has to study the schematics of the plane.
00:44:37
Speaker
Because how often do you have to be on Air Force One to know that? To know the all like ideal hiding spots? Yeah, I'm sure you gotta get a briefing and you're on it. I'm sure you're on it enough that you know these little things about the plane.
00:44:54
Speaker
still trying to figure out how he got out of the escape pod, though. That's kind of like the one of the things. Because they they shove him into the pod and then manages to quickly get out of it and then like hide like above it when it launches.
00:45:08
Speaker
Maybe he does a back latch escape from the escape pod. because Because it's like a it's like ah like space it's like a you know like a space station like landing module. It's like one door.
00:45:27
Speaker
But yeah, I guess shoved them in, but they shut the door quickly and then he got out when they weren't looking and trying to fend up. the fed up like Glenn Morshaw was like the last one standing.
00:45:43
Speaker
ah i loved I love a scene where they find the escape pod and then they open the door and it's like there's like two scenes of like guys in army like army guys just like looking befuddled at things like when they when they just barely stopped the plate like ah Air Force One from landing and it takes off again there's a whole bunch of guys in the landing like the like takeoff just like looking at like Air Force One like what what it just took off again and there's like the the guys like that find the escape i open the door order just like what it's empty
00:46:14
Speaker
There's lots of little like side like funny side things. like Side characters rec side like weird moments. yeah like like There's the one shot where Harrison Ford pokes his head out of the like the little like like the the hatch. hatch yeah He's looking straight down the barrel of the camera.
00:46:32
Speaker
That's like one of my favorite shots of all time.
00:46:37
Speaker
Harrison Ford's in the foreground. He's like, you guys seeing this? What the hell am I going do now?
00:46:47
Speaker
Oh, I also got to mention, i love, there's a guy in the White House who, I think he runs in like four or five times. Like, i think he's like a communications guy, but just he just runs in constantly and just like tells like everyone else like what's happening.
00:47:01
Speaker
He'll just like run in with like a note. He's like, i just got a call. The skate pod's empty. And then he'll run back out of the room again. does like four or five times.
00:47:14
Speaker
Uh, I mean, this is before, like, texting was, like, really popular, so you're screaming at people. Yeah. but he's He's, like, in the next room, though. so he says he's like runs He, like, runs from the next room over to, like, like they like the main, like like, situation room and just, like, tells them things. he's like He's, like, the, like, exposition, uh, like, secretary.
00:47:41
Speaker
there's also the whole thing with, like, um... they want us They want to like ah put the 25th Amendment into into place because they they think Harris-Word is technically incapacitated because he's not thinking about the country, he's thinking about his family.
00:47:55
Speaker
And then Dean Stockwell's kind of weasel and he wants everyone to sign it. Yeah, ah Dean Stockwell does a good job of like not being the weasely government worker.
00:48:07
Speaker
But being the more like logical, hey, we gotta prepare for the worse. Like, I also feel like there's no secondary or traditionary antagonist that's not, he's like, not technically a bad guy.
00:48:18
Speaker
um because I think they're trying to pet paint, um, Glenn Close as that, sort of, to say, oh, will she, like, not believe in the president? she's gonna go for power and then go for the whole, like, I'm in charge now, but like, we have to do what's best for America.
00:48:35
Speaker
think it's like a 24 Yeah, yeah. It'd be weird, because then, like, you get, uh, the actor played Gibson back in, and then it's like, alright, well, let me, um, I wanted to be president. I was like, well, you know, his ah secret dumb plan, besides being the head secret agent guy, was, like, trying to be president. It's like, wow, you skipped a lot of steps if you're trying to be president.
00:49:01
Speaker
Mm-hmm. can a Secret Service agent just be become president? I feel like you you need to run an office. You can't just be like, well, I've worked there the longest, so I get to be president now.
00:49:14
Speaker
I'm sure if you if you get further enough down to like the line of succession, I'm sure there's probably like ah but someone in the Secret Service becomes president. Well, I think everyone in your cabinetry has a chance to be president.
00:49:27
Speaker
Yeah. i think But the thing is, if they're all eliminated, I think they're like, their deputies get, like, the next round. Well, there's, I mean, there's a whole thing, like there's, I mean, we know a whole show about it, but, like, Desinete Survivor, they, like, put someone, they always put someone who could become president off-site so that if, like, if something, like, yeah, that sure like, if everyone got blown up in, like, an explosion, and then and that person becomes president.
00:49:55
Speaker
I mean, luckily here, it was, like, you know, the vice president wasn't on Air Force One, so they didn't have to worry about that.
00:50:11
Speaker
um sort Anything else ah for Air Force One, Chris? i Did you learn about the hit ah controversial history about the soundtrack?
00:50:23
Speaker
I read it. It was very regal. But then later on, when they wanted to reuse it for, you know, other things, the producers were like, please do not don associate my movie with like modern day politics.
00:50:35
Speaker
Mm hmm.
00:50:39
Speaker
The score was good. you know like ah if It's not like you know is that supposed to be poppy. The music is your generic action score. It's very presidential. like The main theme is like super... like like It's like, this is the president's music. This is the president's theme.
00:50:56
Speaker
or like Especially, this is Harrison Ford as the president's theme. I didn't see a captain fal or or Captain America Brave New Worlds. I don't know if...
00:51:07
Speaker
they had an awesome presidential soundtrack where Ford turns into the Red Hulk. Yeah, that that that is funny that he know he was like one of our most kick-ass heroic presidents, and then he like this year he was like a non-control rage monster president.
00:51:25
Speaker
He was probably, I think, doing nefarious things. Neither have seen that movie yet, but I think he was like up to like shady things. Oh boy. I'll probably see it streaming soon.
00:51:35
Speaker
Yeah, i think it'll be Disney Plus soon.
00:51:39
Speaker
yeah, that's another thing. um I think Air Force One got more back into people's minds because of watching him president again in another movie.
00:51:51
Speaker
Because he's he's only been president like twice now. Well, I think it definitely popped up again. you know because we had Olympus has fallen, we had Weathers down, we had like We had three free three Has Fallen on movies, plus a ah weird French TV show.
00:52:06
Speaker
So I think that definitely came up comparing it to those. um Although, I mean, e Aaron Eckhart wasn't really... ah he was a hostage again. it was yeah like Mike Banning, Secret Service agent, was the the hero.
00:52:24
Speaker
But it was the same kind of style.
00:52:28
Speaker
I'm definitely curious to see G20, which, you know, yeah like it's up Prime Video right now. probably have a prior review of that soon-ish on the site, so keep an eye on the site for that, but i'm definitely going to to watch that soon.
00:52:41
Speaker
that And that looks like back to like back to this, where it's, you know, diehard with the president.
00:52:49
Speaker
i think I think also, I'm trying to remember the trailer for G20, but I think Vaila Davis was also like a helicopter pilot or something. To explain like why why she's like a kick-ass president. What's up with helicopter pilot training? Why are they getting like Green Beret survival training?
00:53:03
Speaker
Yeah, i don't
00:53:09
Speaker
I don't And it couldn't have been, definitely wasn't Vietnam, like Harrison Ford. If she was president, it would probably be Desert Storm. so she's Probably, yeah. is' a storm Helicopter pilot with kick-ass training.
00:53:28
Speaker
yeah for Yeah, President Harrison Ford got a ah ah Medal of Honor, too, because he did a bunch of rescue missions, apparently.
00:53:36
Speaker
it It'd be funny if, feel like, his character from Apocalypse Now was, like like, Jim Marshall. That was, like, secretly his origin. Yeah, they could tie that in.
00:53:46
Speaker
But even though his character was more of a, like, officer intelligence guy.
00:53:56
Speaker
Yeah, it definitely feels, like we mentioned before, like, this definitely feels like if jack if, like, Jack Ryan became president. Yeah. Like, he's, like, Harrison Ford is a full-on, like, ah like Tom Clancy, Jack Ryan mode in this movie.
Political Implications of Air Force One's Events
00:54:09
Speaker
And it's great. He definitely plays the part. There's definitely... they They couldn't get the license. If they good just get that Tom Clancy license, I think this would have been more remembered as a Tom Clancy movie, and then more in the greater... and don't know.
00:54:29
Speaker
The TCU? Yes. Mm-hmm.
00:54:34
Speaker
Oh, let me ask you this. too like i just read I was just over on the Wikipedia page, too. like what do you What do you think if... Because Kevin Costner was originally offered this movie. What do you think it like if he if he was in this movie?
00:54:46
Speaker
I think it have worked. It would have worked, too. I feel like Kevin Costner would have been fine. I think he just didn't think he could do action movies at that time, but he could have. Because then you know later on, he became... did full action movies.
00:55:00
Speaker
he He was in the postman the same year. so Was that but was that like one of his passion projects? or Yeah, that was another weird passion project. it It also was regal in its own weird way because that was another like how do we rebuild America? Yeah.
00:55:17
Speaker
I mean, there's a point in that about connecting people through the post office system that, like I don't know, just sort of gets lost. I say that now as someone who's still planning Death Stranding.
00:55:28
Speaker
where that's essentially what you're doing again. So, ah yeah, I feel like the postman was definite definitely a another.
00:55:42
Speaker
That's the right word, like.
00:55:45
Speaker
U.S. like Hollywood story, you know, it's like some which like. some Some would say patriotic, some would say jingoistic, depending on your viewpoints. but Yeah, yeah. It's definitely a super patriotic fucking propaganda movie.
00:56:03
Speaker
But, you know i mean? like It's definitely like geared towards a specific genre and type of movie. Because it's not like, oh, you know what? I'm i'm bored. like I want to watch a very patriotic movie. It's like at a US patriotic movie. You know? It's like,
00:56:19
Speaker
and no one really outside of America would be like, fuck yeah. I love Indiana Jones. me watch Indiana Jones, but now he's the president and he now is fighting terrorists. What? so It's the same thing with this. mean i mean I don't know what it's like to be a Kevin Costner fan in another country because I imagine it's still pretty good, but they just can't relate to certain things.
00:56:39
Speaker
um and Then you find out that they made a movie that was like crazy, like patriotic, and definitely a propaganda movie. geared towards like um how cool America is.
00:56:53
Speaker
i don't I'm trying to think of a nu what's the equivalent for the U.S. as a film mover movie watchers like us. If we found some actor we we liked and then we we found they're like, oh, we found this old movie they made like 20 something years ago. And we watch it we're like, what what is this?
00:57:10
Speaker
You know, imagine Air Force One, but now it's about like South Korea.
00:57:17
Speaker
Would we be like, hell yeah. Or would we be like, I'm not sure. i don't know if this is believable. I feel like other countries don't make like diehard movies. it It feels like a very like ah specifically American thing. of like We got the ah one man can take on this you like this one red-blooded American man can take on this all these all he threats and save the day.
00:57:43
Speaker
it is like one man against all the odds. Mm-hmm. I think the closest they got to that was RRR, but that was two men taking on guess's like a business.
00:57:54
Speaker
That definitely nails the... think it was the oppressive government. it was the oppressive like British government. Okay. but That nails the patriotism side of it. Yeah, but or even then, I feel like RRR...
00:58:09
Speaker
It was more like, we need to stop this government bullshit, while this was, we need to stop terrorists from messing with our government bullshit. Air Force One could used a musical number, too.
00:58:23
Speaker
Like, r-r-r. it Stop in the middle and a dance-off or something. I mean, there could have been a scene. I feel like I've seen this in other movies where the bad guys...
00:58:37
Speaker
To give him sort of like cockiness, one of them just cranks up the radio and they're just listening to some song like blasting in the Air Force One. are but and he basically he does that, Gary Oldman does that when...
00:58:49
Speaker
they're releasing Radek and all the prisoners start singing like the Soviet national anthem. Yeah. but That doesn't count. I mean like i want something like, um think Reservoir Dogs, where it's like stuck in the middle with you.
00:59:02
Speaker
but it's some crazy Russian pop song that they put on and it's just like, whoa. This blast that in the conference room and they're holding everybody just like constantly just is like a like a psychological like torture thing.
00:59:17
Speaker
Yeah. See? That scene would be memorable. It would be scary because it's like whoever is singing the song, they're like, they're going to associate it forever with their song in this moment
00:59:32
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in this moment. In 1987, I'm thinking the the music scene, I think like I'm Blue is like about to be released.
00:59:42
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However that band was, like ninety eight something
00:59:50
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Hanson, Mbop, like, don't speak by, no doubt. Barbie Girl. Can you imagine this movie had Barbie Girl in the soundtrack?
01:00:03
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Yeah, I feel like it's tight, it's neat, it definitely is a time capsule of the 90s, but I think it holds up. Oh, it definitely holds up, yeah. Story-wise, the pacing, the acting holds up.
01:00:17
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I just don't think the... um so like like what the standard is for movies now. you know like It's definitely... um like Why does the bad guy turn? you know like Why does the mole a mole?
01:00:32
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you know or Or... What was up with the Neo-Soviet Union group that we'll never find out? like What happens after? like The repercussions. Yeah, because they yeah it cause they killed they killed they kill their leader. There won't be any international... They're not going to want revenge and...
01:00:50
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Probably, maybe, like, use nuclear weapons or nuclear weapons, whatever they have, to strike it out again. or Or commit more weird terrorist attacks, like, in other countries? We have no idea.
01:01:01
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we the Whatever, like, the president went into Russia for to declare that they won't tolerate terrorist nonsense... I want to follow up where like but he has to hold a press conference like but the next day and be like, see, I told you I don't stand for this. I killed the the terrorist leader myself. Like just yeah have him announce the facts to like the press um about what he did on that plane. And then like,
01:01:26
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if If you do that, if the president in 1997 just disclosed that he beat terrorists like that and is a one-man army, like, you know i mean people would be so, like, patriotic and then the the uproar of patriotism? We would be like an ultra-nationalist military might.
01:01:45
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i've I mean, like... It's crazy to think Hollywood you know plot things, but I mean, it it would work. What our president would do that? And then it's like, yeah, I'd vote for that guy again and again. you know Yeah, his taxation laws are weird, but like he fought terrorists.
01:02:06
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Literally. His whole platform. because um i think in the book, he it's like he's the first term president and he's up for re-election. Yeah.
01:02:17
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So that's why his policies are very strong. he comes He has to be like on his guard. So... Yeah, no. I would be like, I'm voting for this guy again.
01:02:28
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Yeah, I'll vote for the president who like kills terrorists with bare hands.
01:02:34
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And then the whole get off my plane line? Oh my god, that would be on a goddamn t-shirt. That would Yeah, like his campaign slogan would be like, get off my plane.
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01:02:44
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But then he starts saying it like, like, but like comedically, just like, get off my plane.
01:02:50
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And I tell you, and your needs and your questions about the budget, get off my plane. It'd be like, where's the beef? Oh my God. It would be in dumb debates.
01:03:01
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You know, that's going to happen. It's weird, but I could see now the Hollywood dumbness of like presidents having these like catchphrases and like saying these sort of what they think badass lines are, but just don't hold up over time.
01:03:19
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It's going to happen. So Get Off My Plane has happened already. Mm-hmm.
01:03:24
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how would you like How would you debate like President Marshall, too, if you're if he's up for re-election? like Whoever they throw against him as an opponent is like, hey, did you did you fight terrorists? um And you so stop ah ah ah neo and yo soviet a dictator? Okay, so we're trying to get really deep deep, deep into weird politics, but I feel like When it comes to his foreign policies, you can't beat him.
01:03:51
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like you It's like a steel. It is a steel plan where it's like you can't be like there's any flaws. it's like He has a reason to be paranoid about like Russia now.
01:04:02
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Forever in his whole policy. Not Russia. you not russia attack Not specifically Russia, because the Russian the russianhi president is like such a fanboy. He's just like, oh, the us s press like president's calling me?
01:04:17
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I'll do whatever he wants. But, I mean, you have to turn around, and then like you the the president would be like, hey, man, what's going on in your country? I had to fight your terrorists.
01:04:29
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Yeah, I feel it i feel like um like a couple days of this movie, like we're we're declaring war on Kazakhstan. Yeah. So, like, that's why I'm like, okay, so that's, he's gotta keep watch of not only his whole his own country, them, you know, another country.
01:04:42
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So, like, his foreign policy would be, like, very, like, strict. So, whoever's opponent is would have to attack, like, other things where it's just, like, I don't know, like,
01:04:55
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your secret service or like you're bad at hiring. You're bad at hiring. You're bad at like, like, Oh, the president doesn't know how fly a plane. Oh, you know, like whoever is running has to take flying lessons now. Like, you know, as it'd be like, when you debate, you'd be like, I can fly a plane. I could have landed.
01:05:15
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It's insane. But like that, that would be like some crazy tactic.
01:05:21
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Oh yeah. Um, yeah. Any closing remarks? um I mean, i just I love this movie. It's definitely one of my favorite diehard in blank movies.
01:05:32
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And yeah like I said, one of my favorite kind of non-series Harrison Ford movies. And yeah, just it's great Gary Oldman's great. I mean, everything about this is just like ah still an awesome 90s thriller.
01:05:47
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And ah hopefully G20 is even half as good as Air Force One. We'll find out. Stay tuned the site for my review of that soon. And come back next week to the podcast. We're going to be celebrating the 15th anniversary of Kick-Ass, which came out ah in 2010 in April. So we'll be diving into all of the comic book wackiness of that movie next week.
01:06:14
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um very a very 2010s movie. like i just i remember like like music choices and other stuff was happening. like it's It's a very of its time movie, I think.
01:06:28
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but We'll dig into all that next week. And head over to the site. We've got news, reviews, trailers, that kind of stuff over there. Head over to www.devinaction.com check all that stuff out. And yeah, so for Chris, I'm Zach, and we will see you next time.
01:06:40
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