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Introduction to Anti-Fanboy Podcast
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BeyBlade
Hello, you are listening to the all-new Anti-Fanboy podcast for the week of October the 19th, 2025.
00:00:10
BeyBlade
Boy, this has been a week, guys. ah
00:00:13
silkdong
I had a week.
00:00:14
BeyBlade
You had a week?
Week's Challenges and Humor
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BeyBlade
Well, Devin Cobain a week.
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silkdong
Well, yeah, little bit.
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BeyBlade
Chris Colani had a week.
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semendemon
Get
00:00:21
BeyBlade
Steve O'Terry had a week.
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Steve-O
What the hell happened to Chris this week?
00:00:25
BeyBlade
And the cocaine king of comedy, John Suarez, has had a week.
00:00:25
semendemon
him!
00:00:25
silkdong
is that's absolute That's absolute Chris.
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semendemon
run
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Steve-O
Absolutely Chris.
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semendemon
i
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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silkdong
Yeah, he's just, he's just yeah.
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Steve-O
Oh, dear.
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BeyBlade
Just on Zins.
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silkdong
Yeah, he popped his in, and now he's absolute Chris.
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BeyBlade
yes Sorry.
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silkdong
Now he's absolute Chris.
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BeyBlade
Sorry, dear listeners. Chris has popped a Zin.
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silkdong
he's absolutelyol chris
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semendemon
yeah have two
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silkdong
his and His entire bottom gum line is is lined with like five Zen pouches.
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semendemon
come I swallowed a zin. I'm sorry.
00:00:49
silkdong
Oh no, don't swallow the pouch.
00:00:50
Steve-O
wow dear
00:00:51
semendemon
go i'm all right. I'm okay now. It's been a hell of a week too for me. That's what I wanted to say.
00:00:58
BeyBlade
You know, it's funny. i don't It hasn't. I don't know why I said that.
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semendemon
Yeah, I'm fine too.
00:01:01
BeyBlade
I think I panicked a minute.
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semendemon
It was just a zin.
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BeyBlade
it was
00:01:04
Steve-O
but just
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silkdong
The Zen talking.
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BeyBlade
Me watching Chris had ah had a terrifying week.
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silkdong
The Zen talking.
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semendemon
yeah
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BeyBlade
Oh, dear.
00:01:09
Steve-O
Terrifying, you say.
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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semendemon
ah Not a terrifier week, but I would say terrifying.
00:01:17
BeyBlade
I've been trying to get spooked all week. It hasn't happened.
Haunted Dispensary and Halloween Jokes
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semendemon
Well, I found out the place that I am currently going to be working used to be an old morgue.
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silkdong
Oh, it's haunted.
00:01:30
Steve-O
and you
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semendemon
Yeah.
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BeyBlade
Yes, dude.
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Steve-O
one
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silkdong
Wait, is that why? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Time out. Rewind. Zach Morris.
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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silkdong
Is that why Tim Lucas said that's his dispensary that he goes to?
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semendemon
Of course it is. It smells like corpses.
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silkdong
Because it's It's the most haunted place in South Jersey.
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semendemon
He smelled those corpses for miles away. And he's like, I gotta go.
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BeyBlade
I feel like...
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semendemon
I gotta get over there.
00:01:52
BeyBlade
Chris, this is how I imagine Tim coming in while you're you're there. The doors open, like outwards, and then fog comes on the ground, and then Tim just floats in, his hands crossed upon across his chest.
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semendemon
Hey, buddy, we don't...
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BeyBlade
ah have
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semendemon
We don't sell organs anymore. hey
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BeyBlade
I'll have two sins, please.
00:02:12
Steve-O
Chris, it's me, Tim.
00:02:14
BeyBlade
And then he fucking wiggles his nails, his curated stabbing nails, and then turns into a bat and flies out.
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Steve-O
I would like my usual.
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silkdong
Yeah, he goes to... yeah Has ah
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Steve-O
ah chris it's me too i
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semendemon
It's one of my...
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Steve-O
with like a
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BeyBlade
It's me, regular human team.
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Steve-O
i would like by usual
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semendemon
One of the... One of the best customers I have. Vampire. That vampire is one of the best customers I have.
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Steve-O
Chris, I'm absolutely tweaking.
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silkdong
he... Has he come in while you were working yet, or no?
00:02:38
semendemon
I haven't actually jumped over yet. I've just been training at ah at another dispensary.
00:02:41
silkdong
wow Oh...
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BeyBlade
You're first.
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Steve-O
i think it would be really good for you to have a body cam on, Chris. if it's If it's at an old morgue, because you might get some like you might get some of that stuff that they post on, what's that, the top five horror ghost videos?
00:02:57
semendemon
Well, the the ba but basement had a had a furnace, right? Where they burned bodies. I think that's right. Or crematorium. And I saw where it was.
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semendemon
They removed it, obviously, but there's this, like, giant basement with a huge hole, like a square-sized hole missing, and that's where they put, like, all the for the electricity in that building right now.
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Steve-O
Oh.
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semendemon
But, yeah, that used to be a be an old oven for burning corpses.
00:03:30
Steve-O
Chris, the power went out. Can you go down there and and and turn it back on?
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semendemon
Oh, yeah, baby!
00:03:37
Steve-O
Don't worry, Chris. I'll come with you.
00:03:39
BeyBlade
yeah did Yeah, weed vampire is just going to be in the corner waiting to suck all the...
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semendemon
Yeah, dude.
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Steve-O
I thought to suck your dick.
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silkdong
just it's machine gun It's just it's a machine gun Kelly.
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BeyBlade
I don't know. yeah ah He's going to suck all the Delta 8 out of you.
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Steve-O
ah
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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semendemon
um I'm pumped. And it's really cool. And I like that fact. It's cool.
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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semendemon
It's an interesting fact. It's Halloween.
00:04:01
Steve-O
Adam's family theme dispensary. Come on, Chris.
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BeyBlade
i did you ask them when Did you ask them if the the corpse ah slabs are there and that's where they have all their weed?
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semendemon
It's Halloween.
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semendemon
Actually, the embalming room is is...
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BeyBlade
You slide it out?
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semendemon
I know exactly which room that is because that has a big sink in the middle of it.
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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semendemon
ah
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BeyBlade
That's for cleaning that ah that tar.
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semendemon
It is for delivery. So when we get deliveries in, we can get everything correct and then move it.
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BeyBlade
Organs. You're talking about organs, of course.
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semendemon
Of course!
00:04:31
BeyBlade
Yeah.
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semendemon
What do you think? How we think we we're making all of our money? It's not what we... With organs.
00:04:35
Steve-O
Come on, it's the year 2025. You think weed's paying the bills?
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semendemon
It's the old...
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Steve-O
organs. Selling organs.
00:04:40
semendemon
It's the oldest business and in in the world. All right. Selling organs. That's what it's all about. And that's why i'm having such a great Halloween because I'm doing what I love.
00:04:53
BeyBlade
Selling origins.
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semendemon
Selling organs.
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Steve-O
Selling and organs.
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BeyBlade
All right. Well, uh, you're yeah yeah.
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semendemon
Art would be proud.
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BeyBlade
All right. Makes sense. Checks out.
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semendemon
ah Yeah.
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BeyBlade
there
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semendemon
Yeah. Right. He would show up there. And, uh, yeah.
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BeyBlade
You're muse.
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semendemon
um Some fella posted a certain article or just a headline of an article that said, everybody who likes the Terrifier movies are psychopaths.
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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silkdong
Yeah.
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semendemon
Was that John?
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silkdong
Yeah.
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Steve-O
nine
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semendemon
You posted that.
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silkdong
yeah Sam sent that to me. and She was like, yo, show this to Chris.
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semendemon
yeah
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silkdong
i was like I was like, he's not going to be mad. like He's going to agree with it.
00:05:26
semendemon
Yeah, dude.
00:05:27
Steve-O
He's going to cut it out and put it on his fridge.
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silkdong
Yeah, yeah. He's going to wear this like ah like his Medal of Honor.
00:05:33
semendemon
Well, how do you like them apples?
00:05:33
silkdong
like That's what it is.
00:05:35
semendemon
I'm in good company, I guess.
00:05:37
Steve-O
Okay.
Critique of Ed Gein Portrayal
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silkdong
ah Speaking of psychos, um I started watching Ed Gein. Ed Goon, I like to call it.
00:05:45
semendemon
Oh boy.
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silkdong
It's very uncomfortable, Chris.
00:05:48
semendemon
Sure is, isn't it?
00:05:49
silkdong
there's ah There's a lot of jerking off with a hand on the wall. Like, face the wall.
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semendemon
Yeah.
00:05:56
silkdong
There's a lot of that... go Was he really that big of a gooner, Ed Gein?
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semendemon
I mean, this is, this is old yarn, man. This is, this is the good old stuff.
00:06:01
BeyBlade
You know, i this sounds like Chris is trying to defend it, like that's what he does.
00:06:01
silkdong
Okay.
00:06:05
Steve-O
but
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silkdong
There's nothing wrong with that, man.
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semendemon
hold that Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:06:08
BeyBlade
Just put your hand on the wall and goes just crank it.
00:06:08
Steve-O
Come on, man.
00:06:10
silkdong
There's nothing wrong...
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semendemon
It's just a hand.
00:06:10
Steve-O
Dean.
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silkdong
There's nothing...
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semendemon
Guys, it's just a hand.
00:06:11
Steve-O
Ed Dean would enjoy Art the Clowns.
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semendemon
Is this a criminal act?
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silkdong
Yeah, there's nothing...
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semendemon
It might be a criminal act.
00:06:17
silkdong
There's nothing wrong with ah with putting women's clothing on and and and you know putting a belt on your neck and hanging it on the wall.
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semendemon
Yeah, dude.
00:06:26
silkdong
i and
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semendemon
Autoerotic asphyxiation is what it's called in the the fun circles. Old Mr.
00:06:32
silkdong
i was like, man, is this b is this BTK or is this Ed Gein?
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semendemon
Gein...
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silkdong
I can't tell.
00:06:36
semendemon
Where do you think he got the idea from, John? This is what...
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silkdong
Where did the NXS guy get the idea from?
00:06:43
semendemon
And David Carradine.
00:06:45
Steve-O
Yes, yes.
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silkdong
Mmm.
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Steve-O
Good old Bill.
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silkdong
Man.
00:06:46
semendemon
the In the shower. o
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Steve-O
That's that's how he killed Bill.
00:06:50
silkdong
Yikes.
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semendemon
It's pure goon moves.
00:06:52
silkdong
But yeah, i see I see what you were saying about like the whole... like i don't want like You weren't saying it supernatural stuff, but it was like the extraordinary like imagination that they like capture, which is like kind of weird.
00:07:05
semendemon
Yeah. it's It's definitely not... It feels like they're extrapolating a lot.
00:07:09
silkdong
Because the whole like nazi woman whole Nazi woman like fantasy that he was imagining that they created was kind of was kind of like i guess unnecessary you know like i i mean i don't know if there's a point to it later but like i was like this is kind of yeah
00:07:24
semendemon
I mean, all of it is unnecessary. if it's like It's a very... it's he what It felt like he went to make something and then it just turned into something completely different.
00:07:35
semendemon
And not at all what it's supposed to be.
00:07:36
silkdong
right
00:07:38
semendemon
Like the consistency with the seasons, you would think they would tell us at least somewhat, you know, factual story about him, but it's not that at all.
00:07:47
silkdong
Is that modeled after the actual house too? Like that house?
00:07:51
semendemon
ah you know, everything is so speculative in this.
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silkdong
or
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semendemon
It's hard to say if anything is really true.
00:07:56
silkdong
Because like the the one thing i one thing I took away from the house is like I was like, oh, this is just fucking the layout from Psycho. like It's like the same exact layout as Psycho.
00:08:04
semendemon
It does. Right. Looks the same.
00:08:05
silkdong
So I don't know if Psycho took that from the Ed Gein lore or if they took...
00:08:09
semendemon
Well, it is true that Hitchcock went to the house.
00:08:12
BeyBlade
we
00:08:13
silkdong
I mean, obviously, right? like He had to.
00:08:14
Steve-O
i wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised if the filmmakers of this took all the things that Ed Gein had inspired.
00:08:21
silkdong
that we're influenced by and put it put it into the show.
00:08:24
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:08:25
silkdong
Yeah, okay.
00:08:25
Steve-O
yeah
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semendemon
Well, that's like, and and that's where it stops being a show about Ed Gein. You know what i mean? Like it's not,
00:08:31
silkdong
Right.
00:08:32
semendemon
I don't think it ever really meant to be. It's a show about...
00:08:35
silkdong
And you're right, Charlie Hunnam is fucking, he is ripped in this show.
00:08:40
Steve-O
Absolute Gein.
00:08:42
silkdong
yeah it really is, like... It really is. Like, i' imagine if Jeffrey, if they made Jeffrey Dahmer just like this fucking like heartthrob, like fucking Baywatch model. Like, it wouldn't make any sense, you know?
00:08:55
silkdong
But I don't know. Maybe Ed Gein was, you know, his Farmer Boys build.
00:08:57
semendemon
You gotta sell... it man gotta you gotta sell got sell You sell subscriptions.
00:09:02
silkdong
This is his, uh, Devin, this is his, this is his like audition tape to get into the MCU. They're like, oh, did you see how ripped I was in Ed Gein?
00:09:08
BeyBlade
yeah It's like Feige's phone was ringing off the hook, dude.
00:09:12
silkdong
Yeah.
00:09:14
semendemon
Ed Gein had a six.
00:09:15
silkdong
i could totally I could totally be Batman, James Gunn.
00:09:15
BeyBlade
Oh.
00:09:17
silkdong
Watch a Ed Gein.
00:09:17
BeyBlade
Come on.
00:09:18
silkdong
It's same shit.
00:09:18
BeyBlade
you You've heard my accent.
00:09:18
semendemon
Everybody knows Gein had a six pack. and That's like the first thing you think of.
00:09:22
silkdong
da This Ed Gein has like a 12-pack, though. like He's really like... yeah
00:09:28
semendemon
Oh, it's commitment. That's commitment, you know? Yeah,
00:09:32
silkdong
I was just like, damn.
00:09:33
Steve-O
Oh, he's got the gutters.
00:09:34
semendemon
yeah Ed Gein had crazy cum gutters, man.
00:09:35
silkdong
Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude.
00:09:38
semendemon
Let me tell you.
00:09:38
silkdong
He looks like ah like Brad Pitt did in in Fight Club, where he's just like fucking cut. Chiseled.
00:09:46
BeyBlade
And you're like why
00:09:47
semendemon
Yeah, you call him Shred Gein, right?
00:09:48
silkdong
Yeah. Shredgeen, yeah.
00:09:49
Steve-O
but
00:09:50
semendemon
Yeah.
00:09:50
silkdong
That's what I called him. Yeah, Shredgeen.
00:09:52
BeyBlade
why? You know, you know i was ah I was questioned about this by Jenny.
00:09:56
silkdong
About what?
00:09:57
BeyBlade
Because Jenny's like, who are you texting?
00:10:00
silkdong
Oh.
00:10:01
BeyBlade
I'm like, John, he won't stop talking about how hot Ed Gein is.
00:10:01
silkdong
What?
00:10:05
silkdong
I mean.
00:10:05
Steve-O
without
00:10:05
silkdong
Dude, I mean. Yeah. Yeah, dude.
00:10:07
BeyBlade
And then I was like, yeah, we were going back and forth.
00:10:08
silkdong
dude i mean
00:10:09
BeyBlade
We were talking about it.
00:10:10
silkdong
yeah
00:10:11
BeyBlade
yeah
00:10:13
silkdong
and
00:10:14
BeyBlade
Yeah, she's like, but why?
00:10:14
silkdong
I mean, sorry.
00:10:15
BeyBlade
why And I was like...
00:10:16
semendemon
It's the most ironically funny thing I think of the year.
00:10:19
silkdong
It just doesn't make any sense.
00:10:20
semendemon
so Because i yeah that's why I kept watching.
00:10:21
silkdong
like And it's like it takes this it takes you out of it a little bit because you're just like, wow, this dude dude is a fucking...
00:10:24
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:10:25
semendemon
ah Yeah, it totally does. it's It's so sloppy. It's so sloppy.
00:10:29
silkdong
this dude isn't This guy is a fucking Adonis. There's no reason for him to... um yeah i don't I don't know.
00:10:36
semendemon
Ooh, and did you like his voice?
00:10:36
silkdong
i don't want I don't want to be reductive.
00:10:37
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:10:39
semendemon
Did you like the way he talked?
00:10:39
silkdong
It was weird.
00:10:39
BeyBlade
Sorry, I'm just rereading the chat of the conversation, John.
00:10:43
silkdong
Shredgeen.
00:10:44
BeyBlade
This show...
00:10:45
silkdong
Was that Ed Goon, Shredgeen?
00:10:45
semendemon
e
00:10:46
BeyBlade
You said this show really is ed Goon. There's a lot of crank and hog in the first episode.
00:10:50
semendemon
ah
00:10:51
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:10:51
silkdong
There is, though.
00:10:52
BeyBlade
Chris says... Chris says, I definitely don't think Geen was that ripped.
00:10:53
silkdong
There's like this.
00:10:55
BeyBlade
You see all that wood axe? This is John. You see all that wood axe and he's shredded. Shred Geen. Jenny's like, what are you doing? And I was like, I didn't do nothing.
00:11:05
silkdong
I'm just, these guys are just talking about how, these guys are talking about how ripped Ed Geen is and in the TV show.
00:11:06
BeyBlade
I'm being faithful. I'm not watching no shit. Yeah, she's like...
00:11:12
semendemon
there's plenty you first of all there are plenty of mass murders that you guys love that are shredded as hell like Wolverine like Nathan fucking Drake
00:11:12
silkdong
So you guys can watch it? You guys can watch it now, Devin?
00:11:21
BeyBlade
and there yeah I told her I was like I had that argument with her I was like have you ever met a main character that wasn't like super attractive I was like you just acknowledge it it just is what it is yeah
00:11:24
silkdong
Nathan Drake.
00:11:36
silkdong
I mean, even even that Ted Bundy movie they made, that silly movie they made with Zac Efron.
00:11:37
semendemon
It is what it is.
00:11:41
silkdong
I mean, I guess Ted Bundy was like was like an attractive person, though. It's not like, you know, that was like that was
00:11:46
semendemon
That's, well, yeah, that's where
Serial Killers vs. Mass Shootings
00:11:48
silkdong
that was part of his lore.
00:11:48
semendemon
it makes sense at all.
00:11:49
silkdong
It's part of his lore.
00:11:50
semendemon
But like, yeah.
00:11:51
silkdong
Ed Gein is just a fucking, like, mom's boy, like, psycho. Like, uh...
00:11:54
semendemon
You're some redneck that lived out in the middle of nowhere.
00:11:56
silkdong
Yeah.
00:11:57
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:11:58
silkdong
Yeah, with a he had a crisp fade.
00:11:58
BeyBlade
You know what?
00:12:00
silkdong
Dude, dev Devin, look look at it. Look up Ed Gein, Charlie Hunnam right now. He's got a crisp fucking fade. Fresh from the barbershop. And he's, like, fucking...
00:12:11
silkdong
he he They might as well show him fucking...
00:12:11
BeyBlade
Yeah. I
00:12:13
silkdong
Yeah, you see it? They might as well just have him fucking taking shots of fucking protein for before hitting the woods.
00:12:18
BeyBlade
will say like his face. I will say his face, like the prosthetics or whatever they put on him.
00:12:21
silkdong
before hitting the woods.
00:12:25
BeyBlade
least from some of these angles, like it really does look like Ed Gein. It's just underneath it is the byas an Adonis.
00:12:29
semendemon
Of course.
00:12:31
silkdong
No, but now, now look up, look at, look up this shot of him naked in front of his mom, then, and tell me that looks like a yeah, I guess, yeah, yeah, I guess regular Ed Gein had, had that fade too.
00:12:32
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:12:36
BeyBlade
yeah
00:12:42
silkdong
Interesting.
00:12:42
semendemon
Oh, John, you also notice that the show is like, I understand the vibe it's trying to create, but it's like completely and utterly dark where you can't see anything.
00:12:52
silkdong
Yeah, it's like, i don't know, dude. I mean, yeah.
00:12:55
semendemon
There is some lighting problems in the show that I, i you know on retrospect, also kind of didn't like very much. like Everything is so fucking dark.
00:13:06
semendemon
It's almost unwatchable sometimes.
00:13:08
Steve-O
i don't I don't know if modern television like people know how to do lighting in dark scenes.
00:13:15
semendemon
Well, that's the thing. I think it's all like they try to do this like naturalistic approach.
00:13:19
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:13:20
silkdong
Yeah, to make it, yeah.
00:13:20
semendemon
And it's like, that doesn't fucking work.
00:13:21
BeyBlade
Thank you.
00:13:23
silkdong
To make it, like, I guess more, like, voyeuristic, I guess.
00:13:23
semendemon
You know? You're not Stanley Kubrick.
00:13:25
silkdong
Like, you're there.
00:13:26
Steve-O
Nah.
00:13:27
semendemon
Alright?
00:13:27
silkdong
Yeah.
00:13:27
Steve-O
Everything's looking like that fucking shitty episode of Game of Thrones where he was trying to be like this big epic war battle, but it was impossible to see.
00:13:32
semendemon
Yeah.
00:13:36
semendemon
I get like in horror to cover up some things but God you see him naked in the first episode. They're not covering up shit.
00:13:43
Steve-O
I'm telling you, good old good old Johnny johnny ah Carpenter, he knew what to do.
00:13:43
silkdong
Nah.
00:13:49
semendemon
Yeah.
00:13:49
silkdong
Oh man, the and the scene where he's like sponge bathing his mom, I was like, oh god, this is...
00:13:55
semendemon
It's pretty hot.
00:13:56
silkdong
They're trying... I mean, it's it's almost like they're trying to one-up the uncomfortableness of Jeffrey Dahmer.
00:14:05
semendemon
That'll never happen.
00:14:06
silkdong
And it's like it's kind of like... it's kind of It's a little over the top.
00:14:09
semendemon
It seriously is.
00:14:10
silkdong
I don't know.
00:14:11
semendemon
And it stops being a show about Ed Gein many times in its entire run.
00:14:16
silkdong
Yeah.
00:14:16
semendemon
It's... If...
00:14:17
silkdong
Yeah, because they when they when they flashed back to what he thought the fucking Nazi woman was, I was like, this is weird.
00:14:21
semendemon
if To be honest with you, I think it's an indictment of people that like stuff like this.
00:14:24
silkdong
I don't know.
00:14:28
silkdong
Oh, so it's like pointing at them a little bit, and they're just like, this is what you want, this is how you...
00:14:28
semendemon
Is it? Kind of. Like, yeah let me explain. Because in the later episodes, you know, Hitchcock went to go to the premiere of Psycho. And he, like, saw people running out of the theater and, like, throwing up in trash cans and stuff.
00:14:43
silkdong
Amazing. Incredible.
00:14:44
semendemon
And he was like, you know, like...
00:14:46
silkdong
That's what it's supposed to be. Yeah, you're supposed to be disgusted by this.
00:14:47
semendemon
ah However, when he went out into the car and it was like months later, three months later, he's driving to like production of another film and he's hearing about like all these movies that are being made, like psycho rape fantasy and shit like that.
00:15:03
silkdong
Oh, yeah.
00:15:04
semendemon
And he's just like, what, what did I do?
00:15:07
silkdong
They took the wrong thing.
00:15:08
semendemon
yeah Like he's regretting the popularity of psycho for making movies that are kind of like senseless
00:15:15
silkdong
make it Yeah, because they they take the wrong they take the wrong idea from it and they they blast that out. And it's like, that's not what it's supposed to be.
00:15:23
semendemon
And the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, like, he paints Tobey Hooper as, like, kind of like a just like a rebel rouser type. Who's like, this is a Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's not a movie that people want. It's a movie that people deserve.
00:15:38
semendemon
I don't know. Like, that seems pretty high and mighty for a guy that just wanted to make, like, a really brutal horror movie.
00:15:44
silkdong
Yeah.
00:15:44
semendemon
Like, there's a lot of preachy shit going on in it as well. Yeah, it's a strange duck. To say the least. I don't even know if I hate it.
00:15:57
semendemon
That's the other strange part.
00:15:59
silkdong
What, the Ed Gein show?
00:16:00
semendemon
Yeah. like i like I can't say I hate it.
00:16:03
silkdong
I mean, it's interesting.
00:16:04
semendemon
Yeah.
00:16:04
silkdong
Yeah. um yeah I mean, I felt the same way with Jeffrey Dahmer, where I'm like... Like, I don't... Like, it was a good show, I guess. Like, I was...
00:16:13
semendemon
yeah
00:16:14
silkdong
You know, I was, like...
00:16:14
semendemon
As awful as it was, it was like very captivating.
00:16:15
silkdong
It was captivating. But, like... That's why I always go back to, like, Zodiac, right? Because, like, that, like, captures the the horror of, like... Of the serial killer that doesn't paint him in a...
00:16:28
semendemon
ah glorious way.
00:16:28
silkdong
In, like, a main ah main character light, you know? Like, if they're not, like, focusing on him.
00:16:31
semendemon
Yeah. Doesn't glorify it.
00:16:33
silkdong
They focus on everything surrounding it. Like, the... that that The effects of it of the Zodiac killer.
00:16:36
semendemon
And how it, he, yeah, like he corrupted everything, you know, like that was his whole idea.
00:16:41
silkdong
Yeah. And, like, fucking, like, the... The journalists couldn't fucking sleep. like The cops couldn't sleep. like they They're just like haunted by this fucking mystery the whole time. like that's I think that's how you do it.
00:16:53
silkdong
you know like
00:16:54
semendemon
Yeah. There is something to it.
00:16:55
silkdong
So bring back Mindhunter, I guess. Because David Fincher knows how to do this stuff. So let him let them cook. But I guess he doesn't want cook anymore.
00:17:04
semendemon
Yeah, what I think a lot of people miss about serial killers, at least some of them, at least, they they got off on like sorrow and anxiety and people being afraid.
00:17:04
silkdong
I guess.
00:17:13
silkdong
Yeah.
00:17:14
semendemon
like it's ah It's a big part. like ah There's just like a Native American myth of like a monster. It's called the Teardrinker in ah English, where it's like they they take over someone's life They do something terrible and then they just like feed on the sorrow that it creates.
00:17:33
semendemon
That's a lot of serial killers. Like they get off on that, like the pain, the outside indirect pain.
00:17:39
silkdong
Devin, what did you... Devin, what did you Google? I got the screenshot of oh ah naked Ed Yee.
00:17:45
BeyBlade
ah We don't have to worry about it.
00:17:46
silkdong
You just...
00:17:47
semendemon
Yeah, that's going to haunt you.
00:17:47
BeyBlade
I
00:17:49
silkdong
You binged You binged it?
00:17:50
semendemon
Crazy.
00:17:50
BeyBlade
i had to bing it, dude.
00:17:51
silkdong
You binged it? All right. Bing it. Bing it on.
00:17:55
semendemon
Crazy. Crazy show. Not great, though. Never. I would never call it great.
00:18:02
silkdong
The Lizzie Borden thing sounds interesting, though. Because that's like a contained story. You know, it's not what they're not trying... And like the Ed Gein stuff, you don't really know what's true. Like his, like what he was like confessing to, you know?
00:18:12
semendemon
Well, that's the thing. Like, I think he he's starting to understand that the farther back you go, the less congruent the truth is.
00:18:20
semendemon
So you can kind of you can play like fast and loose more.
00:18:20
silkdong
Yeah.
00:18:20
silkdong
It doesn't really make sense.
00:18:24
silkdong
Yeah.
00:18:24
semendemon
with the plot, like less so with Jeffrey Dahmer. Cause that was what for only 40 years ago.
00:18:29
silkdong
Yeah. And it's a very real, like scary thing that is still relevant today. Like there's probably people out there that are, you know,
00:18:37
semendemon
Yeah.
00:18:38
silkdong
but they say? How many serial killers at once? Usually.
00:18:40
semendemon
Active in America. This was in the seventies. It was a Ed Kemper said it was like 25.
00:18:45
silkdong
Oh man. See. It's probably more now.
00:18:48
semendemon
No, I think it did. Serial killers are kind of passe. I think it's all about the mass shootings.
00:18:53
silkdong
It's not cool anymore.
00:18:54
semendemon
mass shootings.
00:18:55
silkdong
Yeah.
00:18:55
semendemon
It's numbers in immediacy.
00:18:56
silkdong
Oh yeah.
00:18:58
semendemon
And it's like not non it's not as like planned.
00:18:59
silkdong
We've evolved to mass shootings.
00:19:03
semendemon
It's it's nondescript. It's anybody who gets in the way that that's more of the the psychos that we have to deal with now.
00:19:05
silkdong
Right. Right. Right. Yeah.
00:19:13
semendemon
Yeah, that's sucks. It's all sucks. But why you watch it?
00:19:18
silkdong
Yeah.
Gaming Talk: Hollow Knight Silksong
00:19:21
silkdong
Anyway, on a lighter any on a lighter note, a few days ago, I finally beat Hollow Knight Silksong.
00:19:21
semendemon
Anywho. anyho
00:19:22
BeyBlade
You know what?
00:19:30
silkdong
I've ascended.
00:19:32
BeyBlade
You know, in a way, it doesn't feel on a lighter note. It feels like that was like a traumatizing experience that you got through.
00:19:38
silkdong
Hold
00:19:39
Steve-O
Wait, when did you start when did you start playing Hollow Knight? How long did it take you to get through both games?
00:19:43
silkdong
ah one on, let me see. Let me do me do a search.
00:19:47
BeyBlade
saw an hour breakdown, right? I feel like Hollow Knight or Silk Song was like way longer.
00:19:51
semendemon
John, did you at any point call Hollow Knight shit song? Did you say that at one point?
00:19:55
silkdong
No, i didn't say I didn't say that. I never said that.
00:19:57
semendemon
Okay, I'm just checking.
00:19:58
Steve-O
Okay.
00:19:58
silkdong
Because I didn't i didn't touch Silksong until after I beat Hollow Knight. I didn't even look at it.
00:20:02
BeyBlade
Right.
00:20:03
silkdong
I had no idea what to expect.
00:20:03
semendemon
Maybe some I pulled that out of my brain somewhere. I thought somebody said that.
00:20:07
silkdong
um Let me see.
00:20:10
Steve-O
I think Devin maybe said that.
00:20:10
silkdong
When did I first post about this?
00:20:11
semendemon
yeah Oh, that's who said it.
00:20:14
silkdong
Oh, dude.
00:20:14
Steve-O
Oh!
00:20:14
silkdong
Oh, here. September was when was crying about
00:20:15
Steve-O
Oh!
00:20:15
semendemon
That's who said it.
00:20:16
Steve-O
Oh!
00:20:17
semendemon
He's like, it was me.
00:20:19
silkdong
september september sixth was when i was when i was was the one i was crying about Switch 1 diarrhea edition of Hollow Knight and how bad it looked.
00:20:29
Steve-O
So it took about like month and a half, yeah.
00:20:30
silkdong
So it was about a month to beat both. but but But I was like, dude, give me a couple Zins.
00:20:35
BeyBlade
Thank
00:20:37
silkdong
I fucking...
00:20:37
Steve-O
damn it.
00:20:39
silkdong
was locked I was locked into... like After like it clicked in Hollow Knight, I just could not stop playing that game and then it went right into Silksong.
00:20:45
semendemon
I think there's a that's a game where Zins would help.
00:20:49
silkdong
Maybe. Yeah, maybe that would helped.
00:20:50
semendemon
I think that's most from soft games.
00:20:51
silkdong
It would have helped focus, my mood. my testosterone.
00:20:54
semendemon
I'd say most from soft games. You need Zins.
00:20:58
silkdong
But, um, yeah, uh, the game is, man, don't, like you, I was saying stuff before Devin, before I beat it, um, because you were, you wanted to know, like, which one is better, and I couldn't really, and I couldn't, like, right before, like, because I was at, I was at, like, 95% of the game, uh, when, when I started thinking about it, and at that point, I was like, yeah, Hollow Knight is just, like,
00:21:07
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:21:12
BeyBlade
I am curious. Yeah.
00:21:25
silkdong
fucking clap like masterpiece like was it was experience like i like no other and this is kind of just like more of that but like i don't know like like almost like five days removed from beating it like i just cannot i can't stop thinking about the game i actually i didn't say i said i said before that i wasn't wasn't gonna play it again but like when owen was like fucking around in it today and then i was like you know trying to like help them actually like do stuff in the game was like i was like oh maybe i can play this again how i do and then i started fucking around in hollow knight on the steam decks i i loaded my steam that i powered it on after like a month or so a couple months and um and i was like wow this looks way better on the steam deck than on the switch too so i started playing that again and i'm like you know i i'm getting i'm getting getting shit done in that game again in hollow knight
00:21:57
Steve-O
Okay.
00:22:00
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:22:17
semendemon
So wait, did you initially play it for the ah switch?
00:22:21
silkdong
So I don't know what happened. This is what happens when games are cheap, right? I guess I bought it on Switch a long time ago. Never played it.
00:22:33
silkdong
And then ah think a few months ago was when Hollow Knight was on sale. So I bought it for like $3 or something on Steam. Started playing on Steam and then I stopped.
00:22:44
silkdong
And then this was like in the summer. And then I started up again. You know, when when the Steam started... yeah ah Pun intended, the Steam started to pick up for Silksong. I tried playing Hollow Knight again, but I ended up just playing it on Switch for some reason.
00:23:00
silkdong
Maybe because I was like, oh, maybe I can get more done if it's handheld, and I never played it handheld. Because it's impossible, because like I can't use the Joy-Con sticks for that game, or ah or I just die in the game.
00:23:11
semendemon
Interesting.
00:23:11
silkdong
So... um
00:23:13
Steve-O
did you all right so Did you start playing Hollow Knight 1 when all the Silk Song stuff started bubbling after it released?
00:23:21
silkdong
Yeah, i yeah that's when i that's when I started playing it, and then I didn't like it at first again.
00:23:22
semendemon
you know
00:23:27
silkdong
And then I just, i for some reason, I just kept playing it, and then ended up being one of my favorite games I ever played. So, yeah, so I don't know. It's weird, because like this is this is what they do different, Steve. Because you you haven't even touched Hollow Knight yet, right?
00:23:43
silkdong
yeah Have you played it all?
00:23:43
Steve-O
No, I played Hollow Knight back in the day.
00:23:44
silkdong
You play it a little bit, and you couldn't get into it
00:23:45
Steve-O
I played it for like a few hours.
00:23:47
silkdong
You couldn't get into it.
00:23:48
Steve-O
It's just i just the backgrounds.
00:23:48
semendemon
Same.
00:23:49
Steve-O
I just really just, they kind of expected me to do a lot of backtracking and I was like, this all looks samey.
00:23:51
silkdong
Yeah. And they, and the, and like, yeah, and it's, it's tough because like, they don't, they don't hold your hand on turn. Like the the exploration part of those games is literally part of the design because like in Metroid or in Castlevania, you can see your map all the time, like no matter what.
00:24:11
silkdong
Right.
00:24:11
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:24:11
silkdong
And then you can see what parts you haven't visited yet and then go right there and then backtrack if you need to like that kind of thing. But with this, like they made it a point to when you get to a new area, you have to find the guy that has the map.
00:24:25
silkdong
And then you have to buy the map from him. So they make you lost on purpose so that you could you know like like ah immerse yourself in that area so so that you are familiarized with it to the point where...
00:24:39
Steve-O
yeah
00:24:44
silkdong
The map is really important, but you're not actually like, it's not a crutch until it becomes a convenience later to use the map when you have to backtrack more.
00:24:56
silkdong
So they want they want you to like, um it's like Breath of the Wild, right? They drop you in an area and they're like, dude, figure it out, you know? And then, and then and it's kind of like, it's cool because like, you like when you get to a new area, it's scary, right?
00:25:04
Steve-O
Yeah, I understand that.
00:25:10
silkdong
It's like Elden Ring. you You get to a new area. You don't know what to expect. The enemies are different. The backgrounds are changed. um You don't know if you're strong enough. right And then like you hear the the dude... like You randomly hear the dude in ah in a random frame in the map. And you're like, oh, thank God.
00:25:28
silkdong
And then you try to make your way to him by the map. and then And then you can see what you went through. like What you had to go through to get to him. And then it's like relief and also...
00:25:40
silkdong
you're already kind of used to the area at that point. So it's not really like they, it's, they, they spoon feed you, but the spoon hurts you. I, I don't know.
00:25:49
Steve-O
but
00:25:50
silkdong
I'm trying, I'm trying to, yeah, I don't.
00:25:50
Steve-O
i can I think based on everything you've been talking about, these two games in the Discord has made me like fearful playing it.
00:25:53
semendemon
you
00:25:57
Steve-O
I think I'm like, damn, Jon's got like a real masochistic streak when it comes to his gaming like interest nowadays.
00:25:57
silkdong
none No, no, no.
00:26:01
silkdong
Yeah. and But it's like, no but that, but that's the thing is like, like if i didn't If I wasn't interested in the in the in the ah in the design of the game or in like the you know the the background stuff, like the NPCs and the story and everything, like if it wasn't so um captivating, then i wouldn't then I wouldn't go through it at all.
00:26:12
BeyBlade
Thank you.
00:26:12
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:21
Steve-O
Right.
00:26:22
silkdong
But then at the same time, something happens where it's like, oh, this seems really unfair. And then I keep trying anyway because I want to get through It's...
00:26:29
Steve-O
It seems to have like the payoff, like, which is like why, like I'm interested in like revisiting it.
00:26:32
silkdong
and yeah
00:26:35
Steve-O
I definitely want to revisit it on steam at some point.
00:26:38
silkdong
yeah Yeah, I would say so.
00:26:39
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:40
silkdong
Because like the um the thing is, like some of the complaints that you you hear too, and you you might relate to this, ah Chris, but some of the complaints is like, um oh like beating a boss doesn't reward you anything.
00:26:43
BeyBlade
Thank you.
00:26:54
silkdong
like They don't drop any loot. They don't drop anything good usually all the time.
00:26:56
semendemon
That's kind of true.
00:26:58
silkdong
But like you know if you play a FromSoft game, it's not about the loot. It's about figuring out the boss, like, figuring out the patterns and coming up with your own strategy to beat it the way you play, right?
00:27:12
semendemon
Somewhat. Well, I will say, i think another part of the FromSoft games that i love so much is when you beat a boss, it usually unlocks like a new level that looks almost completely different.
00:27:24
semendemon
and really fascinating, like in design.
00:27:27
silkdong
Well, I mean, if you guys played a little bit more Hollow Knight, you get that. like
00:27:31
semendemon
Okay.
00:27:31
silkdong
and that and and because the the i mean Especially Silksong in general. like They really changed. I went back. so So I'm um you know kind of pseudo-playing Hollow Knight again. And I'm running into Hornet again.
00:27:44
silkdong
And her dress in the original game is very muted. It's a very muted red. But in Silksong, it's like a vibrant red. And what they do different in the beginning of this game is like in Hollow Knight, they kind of just fucking drop you in Gotham City and everything looks the same everywhere. And I understand, you know, those complaints because I had the same complaints. Like for like for like the first like three hours of the game, everything kind of looks the same.
00:28:12
silkdong
But in Silksong, like they they drop you in this vibrant, beautiful forest area. And then you actually like go through like three different biomes in a linear way.
00:28:23
silkdong
before you reach the first boss, who's really easy. And then, so like, they they kind of like, they kind of, it's almost like they listen to those complaints from Hollow Knight and they give you this, they change the design of how to had a tutorial you through the the first part of Silksong.
00:28:39
silkdong
And it's a little different because it's more colorful and you go through three or four different areas. You touch three or four different areas before you reach the first boss, which unlocks, you know, something ah pretty useful right away.
00:28:53
silkdong
so they kind of like they kind of you know they they ramp up the the pace a little bit with the beginning of silk song i think in a in a way that kind of addresses but it doesn't really it doesn't cater to the people that were complaining about the difficulty right it's still extremely hard and it is it is like she moves way different than the knight does so like you know i think that's also a reason because i i was gonna like say like i fucking like cleared like three bosses in hollow knight like real quick in this game and the one thing that i took away from was oh it's really nice when the fucking bosses don't do double damage in the beginning of the game like in silksong they it does but like you get through it you know it's really like i mean because that's the thing like if you like metroid and if you like castlevania and if you like dark souls
00:29:37
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:29:47
silkdong
like I think like this is a game that you would really enjoy if you if you if you put the time into it. like It's like, I don't know. It's it's weird. Because it's very hard, but and and it was very rewarding.
00:29:59
silkdong
But also, like there are some sequences in this game where, like I think I mentioned to somebody before, i'm like the last time I felt that way was like Uncharted 4 in the fucking car chase sequence.
00:30:14
silkdong
like You guys remember that?
00:30:14
semendemon
Hmm.
00:30:15
Steve-O
That's crazy. Yeah, that's like.
00:30:16
semendemon
I do.
00:30:17
silkdong
Yeah, like, i remember like that's thats that's one, like, thing from Uncharted 4 that I took away from that game was, like, wow, this is, like, fucking breathtaking.
00:30:17
Steve-O
yeah
00:30:25
silkdong
Like, my my heart rate is up. Like, it's very thrill. It's a very thrilling experience. And, like, to put that in ah in a 2D Metroidvania is, like, kind of kind of crazy. Because, like, um you don't really expect to feel that way. and And i and i i don't want I don't want to reduce it in an indie game, but, like,
00:30:44
Steve-O
Right.
00:30:44
silkdong
in a game that costs $20 that's made by three people, like, you don't really expect...
00:30:47
Steve-O
Right, it's just like, this is like the fact that I'm like, I'm getting that like huge budget feeling from it.
00:30:50
silkdong
yeah and i'm sure and I'm sure you felt... Yeah, and I'm sure you felt that way, too, when you were playing Expedition 33. Like, you're just like, wow. Like, this is what an indie game is now?
00:31:02
silkdong
Like, this is kind of it kind of crazy. Like...
00:31:04
Steve-O
Right, like there was a lot of times where I'm like, this is a fucking budget title. Like, that's crazy.
00:31:08
silkdong
Yeah. Yeah, this didn't cost $80. Wow, that's pretty crazy. But also, like there was this um um there's also this other thing. I ran into another boss that I didn't really know anything about. And sometimes when you you run I run into a hard boss, I'll like Google it and see like oh like what builds the people you... It's the same shit with like any game. like you know Not what the meta is, but like like what what is a good strategy for this boss? like how to How to approach this boss?
00:31:38
silkdong
And it was this boss named Seth, the Shrine Guardian. So I looked it up and found all this fucking backstory about this kid. Like, there's this, like, super Hollow Knight fan back when Hollow Knight came out.
00:31:53
silkdong
And he ended up, he's like a 16-year-old kid. He ended up getting Ewing's sarcoma, which is, like, a really brutal form of cancer. And like his make a wish was like, oh, I just want to meet Team Cherry because I i love Hollow Knight so much. Right.
00:32:08
Steve-O
yeah
00:32:09
silkdong
And he so he got his wish or whatever, and they fucking let him design boss that they put in Silk Song.
00:32:16
Steve-O
That's awesome.
00:32:17
silkdong
And the boss is so hard to like he's so good.
00:32:19
Steve-O
Oh no.
00:32:21
silkdong
Yeah, he's so hard. But like it's like really like touching because like, you know, you you go back and like this is what the um this is what the kid shared on. ah On Reddit.
00:32:33
silkdong
Or I guess this is what people put together with Reddit. But like he was like, this is the boss. This is the boss I designed. And um they like stayed true to the design.
00:32:43
silkdong
And it's really...
00:32:45
Steve-O
That is cool.
00:32:46
silkdong
And he got a he like he got a special thanks like by name in the credits, too. So I saw it again, you know tugging at my heartstrings in and they end credits of the game, too.
00:32:57
silkdong
So it's like I was like, wow. like Team Cherry is fucking... The one thing that could ruin this is if they're on the Epstein list, which I think there's a lot...
00:33:05
Steve-O
I don't think i don't think they were invited.
00:33:06
silkdong
Which I think is a lot...
00:33:06
semendemon
only well There's only like six of them.
00:33:08
silkdong
Which might be...
00:33:10
semendemon
How could...
00:33:11
silkdong
Well, there's only three people on this death team, Chris, so...
00:33:11
semendemon
Yeah.
00:33:13
Steve-O
that would be That would be debilitating if like one person of a six-person team was on the Epstein list.
00:33:20
silkdong
Oh,
00:33:20
semendemon
That's one-sixth of their organization.
00:33:21
silkdong
Yeah.
00:33:22
Steve-O
Yeah, that's... Oh my god.
00:33:23
semendemon
Terrible.
00:33:24
silkdong
Yeah, so, like, I'm i'm looking stuff up but about Team Cherry, too, and they're like, you know, like, this is kind of like a crazy...
Silksong's Industry Impact
00:33:31
silkdong
Miracle of a game because yeah, like it took eight years to make or whatever, but like they weren't pressured by like Activision or Microsoft to get it out because I think Microsoft, like, like when they first revealed it, Microsoft said like, oh, like this game's coming out this year.
00:33:49
silkdong
Like or everything that we've you've seen in this trailer is coming out this year. And that was like in 2020 where they, when they first showed Silksong and that never came out.
00:33:54
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:59
silkdong
So, like, it's kind of ah it's kind of a cool thing because, like, they were able to just do the game at their own... Not that at their own pace, but, like, they were able to just make the game that they wanted and then release it, you know, when it was finished.
00:34:15
silkdong
which is like Which is, like, unheard of and in the industry.
00:34:15
Steve-O
yeah
00:34:17
semendemon
It's no pressure because really just three people.
00:34:21
silkdong
Yeah, there's nobody... Yeah, it's like they they made all their money from Hollow Knight, so it's not like they needed they needed the money. And it's not like they hired...
00:34:27
Steve-O
Yeah, you're not like out of budget.
00:34:28
silkdong
hired a bunch of people for it too.
00:34:30
BeyBlade
You know, this still sounds like a really long-winded way of avoiding the question of what you like more, Silk Song or Hollow Knight.
00:34:30
silkdong
So
00:34:38
silkdong
yeah. So yeah, like gun to my head right now. Like, I don't know. It's I'm kind of spoiled, right? Because I was able to play Hollow Knight basically for the first time this year and then go right into Silk Song.
00:34:53
silkdong
So I didn't have to wait eight years and where the memes.
00:34:55
Steve-O
You didn't have the skill drop.
00:34:57
silkdong
Yeah. So like, yeah, exactly. I was already conditioned for the game. So I don't know, because it's like, if they just made Hollow Knight sequel that played exactly the same, I don't think it would be as good, right?
00:35:11
BeyBlade
Well,
00:35:13
silkdong
But they actually like, made the game this, like, know, in the same, like the same basic designs and everything, like, you know, mechanics wise, but like they, you know, they added tweaks here and there. And it's just like, it's just like a really dude i i don't know devon dude i i don't know man but it's like well okay so
00:35:31
BeyBlade
well okay. It sounds like, it does sound like this is the the game to beat for you for this year at least.
00:35:41
silkdong
yeah yeah most most definitely this is the best game i played this year i think hands down like just put 90 hours in this game and i don't want to keep reducing it to oh it was only 20 game but like you know it does matter and it's like it's kind of crazy because like you hear stuff like
00:35:52
BeyBlade
That stuff matters.
00:35:54
semendemon
Yeah, sure. Why not?
00:35:58
silkdong
Other devs being like, oh, like other indie devs being like, oh, you have a responsibility. Like they kind of, they felt like they were screwing them over because now they have to set their prices based on what this game is because it's an indie game.
00:36:11
silkdong
and And then you hear about the, you heard about the Hell is Us director, right? Like he was pissed off because they shadow dropped this game. He called it like the GTA 6 of indie games and they just shadow dropped it.
00:36:23
silkdong
And he was mad because Hell is Us came out the same day as Silksong And he's not trying to say that his game's not selling well because it's bad.
00:36:36
silkdong
He's trying to say that, oh, it's because the most anticipated game in the last eight years came out on the same day.
00:36:38
semendemon
got overshadowed got upstaged
00:36:43
Steve-O
Right.
00:36:44
silkdong
But also, he couldve they had two weeks. He could have changed the date if he didn't want the smoke, too.
00:36:49
Steve-O
I mean, that's the thing, though.
00:36:49
silkdong
you know And they didn't.
00:36:50
Steve-O
I'm like looking at this Hell is Us game. i don't you know i don't want badmouth the game I don't know anything about, but like based on just the pictures I'm looking at, I'm like, this doesn't...
00:36:56
semendemon
it's bad metal oh man in a hoodie oh whoa hold on
00:36:58
Steve-O
I don't... You're going to have to go a lot deeper than just selling me on a man in like a hoodie.
00:37:02
silkdong
And like, dude, yeah, and then, and like this game, like this game so they they dropped the release date, and it was two weeks before they released it, which is kind of crazy.
00:37:06
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:37:14
silkdong
And also, like, they're like still hyper fucking dedicated to their original Kickstarters. So they're like, if you Kickstarted Hollow Knight, you get this game for free, which is fucking, so which is sick.
00:37:23
Steve-O
Right.
00:37:27
Steve-O
Right.
00:37:28
silkdong
They don't have to do that.
00:37:29
Steve-O
This was like one of their ah their their goals, right?
00:37:30
silkdong
those guys would have gladly but paid a hundred dollars for, for this game again, again, if they wanted to.
00:37:34
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:37:36
silkdong
And then like, and the other thing was like, you know, you even pissing off the fucking super, uh, entitled games, quote unquote games journalists that were pissed. They didn't get a review copy. So they, they couldn't write a review of the game before it came out or whatever to get, you know, the most clicks or whatever.
00:37:54
silkdong
Like, yeah, of course not. Like, why do you get special entitlement for these games? You know, like,
00:37:59
Steve-O
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:38:00
silkdong
This is kind of like, I mean, I don't know. This kind of how it should be, right? like Like, especially a game that was like back, that had to get kickstarted to a game series that had to be kickstarted to come out. Like, yeah, you want to see these developers like give those guys the first crack at it, right?
00:38:18
Steve-O
Right. I mean, like, you know, same with Shovel Knight.
00:38:18
silkdong
And it's... Yeah.
00:38:20
Steve-O
Like, they did the same thing sort of where it was like, you know, these people who backed our game, we're going to give them like years and years of content down the line.
00:38:27
silkdong
Yeah.
00:38:28
Steve-O
So like, you know, more power to them.
00:38:28
silkdong
yeah
00:38:29
Steve-O
That's the right way to do it.
00:38:30
silkdong
I think i think all the and i think all the all three or four of the DLCs for Holonet were free, too. And then, like, Devin, correct me if I'm wrong, but, like, has it ever happened before where Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, and Steam shops fucking crashed because of one game?
00:38:41
BeyBlade
um
00:38:48
BeyBlade
Yeah, no, I don't, I don't, I do not think so, no.
00:38:48
silkdong
Like, has that ever happened? Like, that's kind of that's kind of that's kind of crazy, you know?
00:38:55
Steve-O
people slamming the server all at the same time to get the game.
00:38:57
silkdong
Well, yeah, because they didn't have pre-orders or anything.
00:38:59
Steve-O
Right, right. They shadow dropped it.
00:39:01
silkdong
shadow dropped end like i mean They could have shadow dropped it and still had pre-orders.
00:39:03
BeyBlade
and It was digital only too, yeah.
00:39:06
Steve-O
would have crashed from the pre-orders.
00:39:06
silkdong
so like like That's kind of crazy. you know
00:39:10
Steve-O
That's insane.
00:39:11
silkdong
i mean I'm kind of expecting GTA 6 to just crash whatever servers it's on anyway.
00:39:15
semendemon
The whole world, everybody stops working.
00:39:17
silkdong
yeah
00:39:17
Steve-O
Yeah, it's just...
00:39:18
silkdong
every Every data center, every every solid gold Magikarp data center in the world
00:39:19
Steve-O
Dude, every Amazon server-related thing...
00:39:25
Steve-O
There's going to be no downloads that day.
00:39:26
silkdong
grass
00:39:28
BeyBlade
You don't think that they're going to let you download it like a week in advance?
00:39:31
silkdong
I think they they they will definitely do that, but I still... I think, like... Because these things happen when, like, you know, when Destiny 2... You know, when they... When the like when games like Destiny 2 or, like, World of Warcraft have a new update or whatever, and, like, like ah a huge influx of people are hitting their servers at the same time, and you just can't get in to play, like, I'm sure that's gonna happen with GTA.
00:39:53
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:54
silkdong
Yeah.
00:39:54
Steve-O
You're going to download it early. People are going to data mine it like the first like two or three days.
00:39:58
silkdong
Yeah. Yeah, you're going to find out what the DLC in 2029 is going to be from some dude.
00:40:01
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:40:06
silkdong
But it's just like everything about... I mean, and again, you probably feel the same way about Expedition 33, Steve, but like just everything surrounding a game like this is kind of a miracle.
00:40:18
silkdong
And I really... outside-the-game stuff about it refreshing. stuff about it is like really refreshing in this industry, especially, you know, it's just fucking three guys.
00:40:29
Steve-O
Right now, where a lot of my most anticipated games of this year have been probably some of my biggest disappointments of this year.
00:40:31
silkdong
Three guys. Three guys made this game.
00:40:39
silkdong
Right?
00:40:40
Steve-O
And it's...
00:40:40
silkdong
Well, except Donkey Kong.
00:40:42
Steve-O
Oh, no. don ko Donkey Kong paid off in spades. Donkey Kong's the reason to own a Switch 2.
New Switch 2 Highlights
00:40:47
silkdong
Yeah.
00:40:48
Steve-O
um And, you know, I have played another Switch 2 a lot this week, which I will be talking about. And you'll get my sentiments on why Donkey Kong is still the reason to buy a Switch 2 and only Donkey Kong.
00:40:59
silkdong
who was A new DLC came out and it was good?
00:41:00
semendemon
oh
00:41:01
Steve-O
No, no, no, I wish, I wish.
00:41:03
BeyBlade
I know, you said Donkey Kong's the reason, but it's the only reason still.
00:41:07
Steve-O
Donkey Kong is the reason, and the only reason to buy a Switch 2 right now.
00:41:09
silkdong
oh you're I know what you're talking about.
00:41:11
Steve-O
But...
00:41:11
silkdong
Yeah, let's just go into it.
00:41:12
semendemon
Oh, oh, you played a poopo.
00:41:12
Steve-O
but
00:41:13
silkdong
Anyway, Devin, right now, gun to my head.
00:41:15
semendemon
Wow.
00:41:16
silkdong
Gun to my head, I think Silksong is just is probably goat.
00:41:18
BeyBlade
who i didn't know you were I didn't know you were a piece of shit, John.
00:41:19
Steve-O
so
00:41:22
BeyBlade
Okay.
00:41:23
Steve-O
He slicked your hair right back.
00:41:23
semendemon
Yeah, is enlightening.
00:41:24
silkdong
Listen, man.
00:41:25
Steve-O
he the
00:41:25
silkdong
Dude, you saw the hours.
00:41:25
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:41:26
semendemon
Very enlightening.
00:41:27
silkdong
I got like 105%. of hollow knight completion and that took 55 hours i got and i got 100 so because i didn't expect to get 100 just ended up doing it and then like and i got almost 90 hours out of it like that's kind of like that's a that's a lot of meat on the bones you know like that's that's a beefy game so like you kind of like yeah so i i don't know ask me again next week with my house
00:41:37
Steve-O
I think you buffied You buffied Silksong and Hollow Knight.
00:41:46
Steve-O
that's um That's a lot of me.
00:41:50
Steve-O
For a $20 game too?
00:41:56
Steve-O
they'll just They'll just jump back and forth.
00:41:57
silkdong
When my Hollow Knight hoodie comes in, it'll jump back. Well, because I'm also playing Hollow Knight again right now for some reason. So, like, that's something.
00:42:04
BeyBlade
You got the sickness, dude.
00:42:05
Steve-O
Is this just what it's going to be? It's going Hollow Knight of the Silksong into Hollow Knight of the Silksong?
00:42:09
silkdong
Dude, I'm like, I'm um so i'm obsessed, dude. Maybe I could play them both at the same time, too.
00:42:13
Steve-O
Oh, man.
00:42:14
silkdong
don't know.
00:42:15
BeyBlade
Man, I really.
00:42:15
Steve-O
We just unlocked John into Hollow Knight just over and over.
00:42:17
BeyBlade
So here's here's the thing, too, is like. I love that John's like getting to these games, but it's really frustrating because he doesn't ever have to wait because they're all there already.
00:42:26
silkdong
Yeah. I'm spoiled.
00:42:28
BeyBlade
Because, like, what what does johnce what does John Suarez look like if he played Hollow Knight, like, the first year it came out?
00:42:28
silkdong
I'm spoiled.
00:42:35
silkdong
In 2015.
00:42:36
BeyBlade
And you were so excited. And then you were like, where is the fucking game? Because you know, you know.
00:42:42
silkdong
ah You know what? I would probably look a lot like i would probably look a lot a lot like Chris with Bloodborne.
00:42:43
BeyBlade
What's that maniac look like?
00:42:47
semendemon
yeah Well, I'm at the resign point.
00:42:48
Steve-O
but so Yeah, you're hoping they announce it at the...
00:42:48
silkdong
at that's That's probably what I would look like.
00:42:51
BeyBlade
No, because at least at least they're putting out other games, you know?
00:42:53
silkdong
Oh, you...
00:42:55
semendemon
I'm resigned in the fact that I'm never getting another one. Fine.
00:42:58
silkdong
You're just saying that to reverse jinx it, Chris. I know your strategies. You still have...
00:43:03
semendemon
Shut up!
00:43:04
silkdong
Dude, you still have a glimmer of hope in the back of your mind. I know. and know how it is.
00:43:07
semendemon
You actually made me start thinking about Bloodborne right now when you were talking about it.
00:43:12
silkdong
See? Sorry. Just bringing it up. But like that's the next thing.
00:43:14
semendemon
yeah
00:43:15
silkdong
Because like GTA 6 is over the meme Silksong finally came out. And Blood Porn 2 is like the last man standing.
00:43:22
semendemon
Oh yeah, it just it works like that, doesn't it?
00:43:22
silkdong
It's like... That's the one.
00:43:24
semendemon
yeah
00:43:24
Steve-O
That is legit.
00:43:24
silkdong
That's the last one everyone's waiting for.
00:43:26
Steve-O
That is legit the last one. You're right. i didn't even fucking think of that.
00:43:28
silkdong
as yeah There's no other memes.
00:43:29
semendemon
The last pillar.
00:43:29
Steve-O
There's no more game to look for.
00:43:30
semendemon
The last pillar.
00:43:30
Steve-O
Oh, man.
00:43:31
silkdong
There's no other memes.
00:43:34
silkdong
It's the last pillar of the games that are never coming out.
00:43:34
Steve-O
They did Shenmue 3. That sucked. God, it's all done. Duke Nukem Forever. Took Forever.
00:43:41
silkdong
Well, you know, that's not that's not on FromSoft.
00:43:41
Steve-O
Came out.
00:43:43
silkdong
That's on Sony. Just saying.
00:43:44
semendemon
It is.
00:43:44
semendemon
It is.
00:43:44
Steve-O
Yeah, that's Sony.
00:43:46
silkdong
And all this Xbox shit, I don't know if Sony will ever need to hit the panic button.
00:43:50
Steve-O
Dude, they don't need to worry.
00:43:50
silkdong
And or and and and door and DoorDash, they're Bloodborne 2 from FromSoft.
00:43:54
Steve-O
Oh, but watch out.
00:43:55
silkdong
They just don't have to do it.
00:43:56
Steve-O
The ROGX ally.
00:43:58
semendemon
Oh, God, I already got one.
00:43:59
Steve-O
a
00:44:01
semendemon
already got one.
00:44:01
BeyBlade
Oh, no Chris.
00:44:02
silkdong
and No, you didn't.
00:44:03
semendemon
No, I've been downloading updates.
00:44:04
BeyBlade
Actually, you know, that probably could play.
00:44:04
silkdong
Chris.
00:44:05
Steve-O
and
00:44:05
BeyBlade
That could probably play Borderlands, yeah.
00:44:06
semendemon
I've been downloading updates for the past three days.
00:44:06
silkdong
Chris, you could have that $1,000 on an actual computer, Chris.
00:44:11
semendemon
i have to configure it still, and it's still downloading updates.
00:44:14
Steve-O
it won't let me log in using the buttons.
00:44:17
silkdong
Yeah, that's that's the one thing I'm seeing. is like
00:44:19
Steve-O
Okay.
00:44:20
silkdong
Especially people trying to get into Battlefield. like They have to log in and they can't even like bring up the keyboards.
00:44:26
semendemon
There's one thing I really wanted. i want to navigate a Windows desktop with joysticks. That's ah did's something that i I... Or a touchscreen that's seven inches.
00:44:34
Steve-O
The smartest thing Steam ever did.
00:44:34
silkdong
Is it noisy? is like
00:44:38
Steve-O
What's that?
00:44:39
silkdong
Is it quiet? Like the ROG Ally X? Because all I heard, like when people were comparing the other ones to the Steam Deck, like the one big takeaway, well, the one big takeaway is like Steam OS is just killer app.
00:44:42
Steve-O
I have no idea.
00:44:49
silkdong
Like you can't beat it um thing like um on a device like that.
00:44:51
Steve-O
Right.
00:44:53
semendemon
No, no, no, no, no.
00:44:53
silkdong
But also the other thing is the Steam Deck is seem that's really quiet too.
00:44:53
Steve-O
Runs on Linux. You don't got to worry about Windows.
00:44:57
silkdong
And like the other
00:44:57
semendemon
John, John, I want a seven-inch Surface Pro. but And with the joystick attached to it.
00:45:03
Steve-O
Just a fucking disaster of a thing.
00:45:06
silkdong
ah
00:45:10
Steve-O
It's cool that there's a clamoring for devices like that, but I also...
00:45:15
silkdong
Dude, Xbox really changed their tune too because they were like...
00:45:18
semendemon
Wait, wait.
00:45:18
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:45:18
semendemon
You said, Steve, you said that smartest thing Steam ever did? was that?
00:45:22
Steve-O
Smartest thing they ever did was make sure it didn't run on Windows.
00:45:25
silkdong
Yeah.
00:45:26
semendemon
Yes.
00:45:27
silkdong
No, and that's like the big appeal to it. No, and then and then the the thing is like Xbox was like, you know, they had the whole marketing campaign where it's like, this is an Xbox. Your fucking foot is an Xbox.
00:45:37
semendemon
yeah Yeah, I remember that.
00:45:38
silkdong
you're Yeah, your microwave is an Xbox.
00:45:39
semendemon
i I pointed at my dick.
00:45:41
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:45:41
silkdong
Yeah, this is an Xbox.
00:45:43
silkdong
And now they're like, oh no, that was different. like Asus made the pricing themselves. Like that's what ah this the mike the Xbox ah CEO said.
00:45:51
semendemon
He he he he he.
00:45:53
silkdong
we didn't We didn't set the prices. That's their device. That's not ours.
00:45:56
Steve-O
they put out They put out this video of being like, we meticulously placed an Xbox button on the Rog Ally.
00:46:04
silkdong
yeah They
00:46:04
Steve-O
And we spent years of R&D.
ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck
00:46:07
silkdong
branded it.
00:46:07
Steve-O
And it's like, brother, you just put a fucking like weird like trapezoid off to the side with an Xbox logo printed on it.
00:46:15
semendemon
it's a cool trapezoid though
00:46:16
silkdong
No, but it's like, imagine getting a imagine getting your Steam Deck, Chris, that you've been waiting for since you ordered it, and then like you have to log in the Windows, and then you have to do all the Windows updates, and then you have to fucking...
00:46:17
Steve-O
It's cool.
00:46:25
semendemon
Sure.
00:46:28
semendemon
Yeah, that sounds great.
00:46:29
Steve-O
Your buttons don't work, so you have to use your phone.
00:46:30
silkdong
Dude.
00:46:31
semendemon
Oh, dude, that's awesome.
00:46:34
semendemon
but How much?
00:46:34
silkdong
dude
00:46:34
BeyBlade
of not Yeah, what a steal.
00:46:34
semendemon
$1,000? What a deal.
00:46:37
silkdong
Yeah.
00:46:38
semendemon
what What am I waiting for?
00:46:40
Steve-O
i saw um Jeff Gertzman said he had to get past that bug by just plugging a mouse and keyboard into the rug.
00:46:40
semendemon
are we all waiting for?
00:46:46
silkdong
Yeah, see, that's fucking, that's whack.
00:46:47
Steve-O
All Woof.
00:46:47
semendemon
wo
00:46:49
silkdong
That's whack, dude.
00:46:50
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:51
silkdong
That's fucked up. And it's like, who would, it's like they're going about it the fucking Microsoft way, which is the wrong way every time.
00:46:58
semendemon
me tell you what, I got my Steam deck, I powered that bad boy up, signed into Steam, created Steam profile.
00:47:03
silkdong
Yeah, what'd you have to You have to download your games to play them.
00:47:05
semendemon
Boom, I'm in.
00:47:06
silkdong
That's it. Yeah.
00:47:07
semendemon
i'm in I'm in the Matrix. Like, it didn't it didn't take long before I was playing the game.
00:47:13
Steve-O
In the matrix.
00:47:13
silkdong
Yeah, i mean they I mean, because that's the goal. like The goal is you want a console experience but that can play PC games and Xbox games or whatever on your thing.
00:47:21
semendemon
And I'm not going to say I don't like tinker from time to time with some settings, but it's nothing like having to re install drivers and shit.
00:47:21
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:47:29
Steve-O
Right.
00:47:29
silkdong
Yeah, I had to... What did have to do on my Steam Deck? I had to like sign in to something and I'm like, oh no, my keyboard's not coming up. So I just hit the dot dot dot button And then like you hit the little keyboard touch button and then the keyboard pops up.
00:47:44
semendemon
Yeah, it's right there. There's all these redundancies for everything.
00:47:48
silkdong
It's like... It's really like... they really ah They did a good job making the Steam OS, must say.
00:47:53
Steve-O
they They definitely did a great job planning.
00:47:56
silkdong
So... they They went out of their way to make it feel like its
Game Reviews: Absalom and Others
00:48:01
silkdong
own console, which is what Microsoft should have done.
00:48:01
semendemon
I played a game on a new game on my Steam Deck recently.
00:48:05
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:48:07
semendemon
I played a game. It was called Absalom.
00:48:10
Steve-O
Oh, dude, I'm going to play that.
00:48:10
silkdong
Oh, you got it?
00:48:12
semendemon
Yeah, ive I was playing it.
00:48:12
Steve-O
Let's go.
00:48:14
semendemon
um I got pretty, pretty far. I'd say, know, goofing around for about, let's say 10 hours, 10, 15 hours. Carl is my boy.
00:48:24
silkdong
Okay. okay
00:48:25
Steve-O
Carl's good. Carl's very good.
00:48:26
semendemon
Car rolling in with Carl. um Yeah, i I pretty much level. i got every one of his special abilities um leveled up, got pretty far into the map. I think I've discovered most things on the map. I haven't faced the the final boss, of course, but it's like one of the few roguelikes that I actually kind of sunk my teeth into for a bit.
00:48:51
semendemon
And
00:48:51
Steve-O
it doest It does a good balance between like the rogueness of it and the actual beat-em-up.
00:48:57
silkdong
And the beat em up, yeah.
00:48:57
semendemon
Yeah. The beat-em-up helps. It definitely helps a lot. It's it's also like, looks like a classic beat-em-up. Not like 80s, which I can never really...
00:49:05
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:49:08
semendemon
don't know. just really don't like my symmetric games.
00:49:09
Steve-O
it This is the Streetsher Rage 4 team. And so like you know if anybody knows how to do it, it's them.
00:49:17
semendemon
Overall, pretty fun game. Pretty fun game.
00:49:18
Steve-O
i I made it to the to the last boss, the boss you're supposed to get to
00:49:23
semendemon
Okay.
00:49:23
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah.
00:49:24
Steve-O
Didn't even fucking touch him. I had a build that I thought was going to just absolutely let me be invincible.
00:49:26
silkdong
Wow.
00:49:28
semendemon
Who's
00:49:30
Steve-O
He fucking demolished I got Balotro'd.
00:49:30
silkdong
Oh, man, you got Bellatroed. You got Well, now, next time Steve goes in, now that Steve goes in, he's got to think about the boss now.
00:49:33
Steve-O
I got Balotro'd.
00:49:34
BeyBlade
So it's not like when you go in, you're like, oh, I got a sliver of health left. he You felt good.
00:49:41
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:49:41
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:49:43
Steve-O
I got to think about it because it's like...
00:49:43
semendemon
here your...
00:49:43
silkdong
he's And he's got to build around that,
00:49:46
Steve-O
i was I was just cheesing.
00:49:46
silkdong
you know
00:49:47
Steve-O
So I was playing um the elf, the elf girl with the sword.
00:49:49
semendemon
Who are you playing? The big sword.
00:49:51
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:49:52
semendemon
Okay.
00:49:52
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:49:52
semendemon
Okay.
00:49:53
Steve-O
And I found a build where basically if um It's basically, ah if I do my X finisher, it turns it into this big multi-hit claw move, and it hits like five times.
00:50:03
semendemon
Okay.
00:50:09
Steve-O
But on top of that, I had a um i had an an additional perk that let it be that when I did my finisher, it spawned two thorn daggers.
00:50:09
BeyBlade
Thank you.
00:50:20
semendemon
Aha. Yes.
00:50:21
Steve-O
And so that five times hit would spawn like thousands of daggers on the screen for me to pick up and just start hucking. And so like, basically I was just like doing that and then just like throwing knives nonstop.
00:50:28
semendemon
Cool.
00:50:32
Steve-O
And I was like, dude, I'm like chainsawing through these levels.
00:50:36
silkdong
this game's two easy This game's free.
00:50:38
Steve-O
Boss showed up, just fucking walloped me.
00:50:38
silkdong
like Why is this game so free?
00:50:40
Steve-O
Didn't even, didn't even give me a shot.
00:50:42
semendemon
Interesting.
00:50:42
silkdong
Chris, he tried to he tried to use Moonveil on um um the console of Redan and he got mollywopped.
00:50:47
Steve-O
but here's the cool Here's the cool thing though, Chris.
00:50:48
BeyBlade
Oh,
00:50:50
Steve-O
Even though you think you've traversed the map, there's way more to that map than I thought there was going to be.
00:50:55
semendemon
Oh, cool.
00:50:56
Steve-O
So there's a lot more to look forward to.
00:50:56
semendemon
Oh, very cool. Okay. All right.
00:50:59
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:50:59
semendemon
Yeah. Cause yeah I was running through, got through lot in ah pretty short period of time.
00:51:02
Steve-O
ah
00:51:04
semendemon
And I was like, Oh, this is, Hey, you know, it's 20 bucks. That's what I was like saying to myself. But if there's more, it's like that ah classic RPG that that came out, was it like two years ago?
00:51:18
semendemon
Devin knows. Devin played it. um Goddamn.
00:51:21
Steve-O
Witcher.
00:51:22
semendemon
No, no.
00:51:22
BeyBlade
how so oh Oh, you're talking about ah fuck the Chrono Trigger-like game, right?
00:51:23
silkdong
i The Witcher.
00:51:23
semendemon
It was like a retro RPG. Oh, God.
00:51:27
Steve-O
Oh, I know the one you're talking about, Devin. It was like probably one of your game of the year contenders that year.
00:51:31
semendemon
Yeah.
00:51:33
silkdong
Octopath.
00:51:36
semendemon
Yeah, the Chrono Trigger. What the fuck is that called?
00:51:38
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:51:39
semendemon
Sea of Stars.
00:51:40
BeyBlade
Yes.
00:51:41
semendemon
Sea Stars. Sea Stars, you know, you you think you've ended that game, and then it... Woo!
00:51:48
BeyBlade
and that Yeah, there's ah there's a little bit more left in the tank.
00:51:48
semendemon
The whole...
00:51:49
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:51:50
silkdong
How much is Sea of Stars?
00:51:52
semendemon
Yeah, i love that.
00:51:52
BeyBlade
and see in for Oh, boy, here it is.
00:51:53
silkdong
$35? Oh my god. Do they think they're fucking Rockstar?
00:51:56
BeyBlade
Here comes.
00:51:56
semendemon
Yeah.
00:51:57
BeyBlade
Thanks, Silk Song. Thanks, Silk Song.
00:52:02
silkdong
$35? Get over yourself, Dotemu. Oh man. Oh no, that's Absalom.
00:52:10
semendemon
ah yeah
00:52:10
silkdong
Get over yourself.
00:52:11
BeyBlade
but
00:52:11
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah. Other company.
00:52:13
silkdong
Who developed this? Yeah. Sabotage Studio. Get that.
00:52:17
Steve-O
But you've been you've been enjoying Absalom, Chris?
00:52:19
semendemon
Yeah, I think it's good. I think it's good. I'm not like in love with it, but I enjoy it.
00:52:24
Steve-O
Hmm.
00:52:25
semendemon
I'm not like I can't. Roguelikes always don't figure too well.
00:52:30
semendemon
and
00:52:30
silkdong
Yeah, have you have you tried Hades, Chris?
00:52:33
semendemon
I have um got pretty far into it. I just hate. I really don't like isometric games. I don't.
00:52:38
BeyBlade
I hate it. Just...
00:52:40
semendemon
I don't like it. i don't like the view, the camera view.
00:52:42
silkdong
Damn, is Hades 2 the highest rated game this year?
00:52:45
semendemon
like It's hard for me to see the main character.
00:52:46
Steve-O
yeah
00:52:48
semendemon
I don't know. He's too small.
00:52:49
Steve-O
I get that.
00:52:49
silkdong
is it Is it unfair that Hades...
00:52:50
Steve-O
Honestly, like there could be a lot of shit on the screen sometimes.
00:52:52
silkdong
i'm trying I'm just trying to gas up Devin here, but... Is it unfair that Hades had fucking early access last year and they were able to like work through a bunch of kinks before the game came out?
00:53:01
BeyBlade
I mean, unfair. I don't know. i mean, it's weird.
00:53:04
Steve-O
That's what they did with Hades 1.
00:53:05
BeyBlade
Because you know it feels like? It does feel like cooking the books like a little bit in terms of score.
00:53:10
silkdong
Yeah.
00:53:11
BeyBlade
Because like they released the game.
00:53:12
silkdong
Yeah. Yeah, because you have a polished game already, like, basically.
00:53:16
BeyBlade
Yeah, but it's like they released a game for cheaper, right?
00:53:16
silkdong
Yeah.
00:53:19
BeyBlade
So then those people that were going to buy it anyway just got the game a lot cheaper. then they don't really feel... They don't get a big wave, I guess, of purchases unless they're hoping, okay, we'll offset the cheaper you know early access to when it has a 94 on Metacritic, so people are just going to buy it regardless because they want to know.
00:53:40
Steve-O
Right. People are going to see it. Mm-hmm.
00:53:42
BeyBlade
i mean, it it's what I'm trying to say is this cheating and it should be disqualified.
00:53:49
semendemon
He's cheating.
00:53:49
BeyBlade
no
00:53:50
Steve-O
It's cheating.
00:53:50
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's just...
00:53:52
semendemon
He can't.
00:53:52
silkdong
I mean, that that's that's how Baldur's Gate 3 was, too, a little bit, you'd think.
00:53:52
BeyBlade
I'll throw it out. Throw it out.
00:53:55
semendemon
Yeah?
00:53:55
BeyBlade
Yeah, not for years, dude.
00:53:56
Steve-O
la
00:53:58
BeyBlade
It's funny because it's like i my very first impressions that I read about Baldur's Gate 3 was how bad it was because it was three years out still.
00:53:58
semendemon
You alright?
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 Issues
00:54:09
BeyBlade
You know, like the intro was...
00:54:09
silkdong
So what you're saying is maybe va Vampire, The Masquerade, Bloodlines 2 should have done an early access instead of releasing the game.
00:54:16
BeyBlade
What I'm saying is that's probably why Soap Song took six years, you know?
00:54:17
Steve-O
Honestly, they probably should have...
00:54:20
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:54:21
semendemon
I would not be surprised if that does negatively impact Vampire the Masquerade Part 2.
00:54:27
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:27
semendemon
yeah There's no doubt in my mind.
00:54:30
BeyBlade
Yeah, because when it takes that long and it's bad.
00:54:30
semendemon
Dude...
00:54:34
Steve-O
Well, the thing is, like, multiple teams have been tasked with that. Like, it originally was, um I think it was, like, Saber Interactive or something.
00:54:39
BeyBlade
Dude, it smells like...
00:54:42
Steve-O
And then it got jumped to, ah I think it's called the Chinese Room or something like that. I kind of forget.
00:54:47
BeyBlade
The House is not the exact same thing that happened to Metroid 4 Prime. prime
00:54:51
semendemon
It's like problem child.
00:54:52
Steve-O
oh Because it was still, like, kind of handed off to, like... major like companies. like This was like basically given to crackheads behind the the studio.
00:55:06
Steve-O
Dude, I caved. like That's the thing. like I bought it and then I saw it was getting threes and fucking fours from like major things.
00:55:11
silkdong
Yeah, dude. news gets getting It's getting cooked. It's getting roasted.
00:55:15
semendemon
Is it really?
00:55:15
Steve-O
so
00:55:15
semendemon
i didn't even look at the reviews yet.
00:55:16
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:55:16
silkdong
Dude, Chris, it's getting it's getting deep fried right now.
00:55:17
BeyBlade
honest what dude I
00:55:19
silkdong
Yeah.
00:55:20
Steve-O
i hit the I hit the refund button on it. I had to. I'll just wait until it goes on sale for like $20.
00:55:24
BeyBlade
i was watching six out of ten review that the game play look kind of fun But it looked like the the body of water. It looked like it was fun playing in the water, but it was shallow looking, right?
00:55:35
semendemon
Oh, boy.
00:55:36
BeyBlade
You know? Like, you're going to get knee deep, and that's as deep as it's going.
00:55:37
Steve-O
it was it was described It was described as a fake RPG that is impossibly linear.
00:55:38
silkdong
yeah
00:55:45
Steve-O
like And I went, no, the whole thing of the first Bloodlines game was like you fucking get dropped into a city and you just kind of go nuts in it.
00:55:45
semendemon
Oh, no. is a good score Metacrick, right, guys?
00:55:57
Steve-O
That would only get Devin like three points if he bet on it.
00:55:57
BeyBlade
ah it's It's over half.
00:56:03
Steve-O
Or bet against it. I'm sorry, bet against it. Actually, wait, yeah, what did you get for that?
00:56:05
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:56:06
Steve-O
Because I think you did bet against that.
00:56:08
BeyBlade
i didn't I didn't counterpick that.
00:56:10
Steve-O
Who counterpicked that?
00:56:11
BeyBlade
somebody do we or Did anyone even think to?
00:56:12
Steve-O
Somebody did.
00:56:14
silkdong
ah Somebody counterpicked Vampire.
00:56:18
Steve-O
Oh, you know what? No, no one did counterpick it.
00:56:21
BeyBlade
yeah i was gonna say
00:56:21
Steve-O
But believe if you did counterpick it, let me see where it actually is.
00:56:26
semendemon
How far in the toilet do you think this one's going to drop?
00:56:27
BeyBlade
I think somebody drew it and then dropped it later down the line.
00:56:31
semendemon
How far in the toilet do you think this is going to drop?
00:56:32
Steve-O
No, I think you're right.
00:56:34
semendemon
The score.
00:56:37
BeyBlade
Well, I mean, no one picked it.
00:56:37
semendemon
You think it's trending downwards?
00:56:40
BeyBlade
Yeah, it would, i think. But there's just just something to it, dude.
00:56:44
semendemon
Well, that stinks.
00:56:46
Steve-O
It stinks because this is, you know, I always want cool things to happen with ah World of Darkness stuff.
00:56:51
semendemon
Things that I like.
00:56:52
Steve-O
and it just doesn't it doesn't seem to happen.
00:56:55
semendemon
Yeah, it just seems to get more racist and everything. That's the only thing
00:56:58
Steve-O
Yeah. They're
00:56:58
BeyBlade
me
Nostalgia for Old Xbox Games
00:56:59
semendemon
it gets.
00:57:00
semendemon
It's just...
00:57:00
Steve-O
like, oops, we found out a Nazi wrote our book.
00:57:04
semendemon
Cool.
00:57:04
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:57:05
semendemon
That's cool.
00:57:05
BeyBlade
actually Now I think everybody, but even in the beginning was new enough to steer clear.
00:57:11
Steve-O
The thing is, no one actually knew if it was actually going to come out this year. And also, if it did, if it would be good. So people were just like, eh, no thanks.
00:57:20
semendemon
Sorry. The Hunter of the Reckoning game will be better. That comes out in five years.
00:57:23
Steve-O
Dude, I still really enjoyed that Xbox one. That Xbox one was fun.
00:57:26
BeyBlade
You know what? Wait, listen. Let's say it's it's the John Suarez approved $20. Are you going to pick it up?
00:57:34
Steve-O
Oh, John. John comes in like five years later, gets to play the entire series.
00:57:36
BeyBlade
Yeah. John?
00:57:37
silkdong
Oh, yeah.
00:57:37
BeyBlade
Yeah, after get back.
00:57:37
silkdong
You guys picked this up?
00:57:38
semendemon
Guys, I put 150 hours into this.
00:57:41
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:57:41
semendemon
I mean, it has to be my game of the year. It didn't come out this year.
00:57:43
BeyBlade
Yeah. But I'm just saying i'm just
00:57:45
silkdong
come
Pokemon Legends: A Step Backward?
00:57:46
BeyBlade
saying this thing this thing, you know, turns into like a mind's eye and then it's all you can buy it for like $20.
00:57:46
silkdong
out this year.
00:57:53
BeyBlade
Will you pick it up then are are you staying away from it entirely?
00:57:55
Steve-O
I feel 20 bucks is too too much for Mind's
00:57:58
silkdong
Woo!
00:57:59
BeyBlade
Well, okay, okay. But I'm saying vampire. I'm saying vampire to drop $20 before the end of the year.
00:58:03
Steve-O
Eye. Vampire, 20 bucks, yes. And that's the that's the thing.
00:58:05
semendemon
Yeah, I'm in. I'm I'm in.
00:58:07
Steve-O
Based on these scores, I was like, this is a game that's definitely going to become a budget title. So I will refund and then rebuy it when it is that much.
00:58:14
silkdong
Alright, so Steve, Vampires, $20. Silksong is on sale for $18. Do you just get both, or do you... Okay, okay, okay.
00:58:21
Steve-O
Yeah, I get both. I get both. That's a good deal.
00:58:23
silkdong
Okay.
00:58:23
Steve-O
That's a good deal.
00:58:25
silkdong
ah
00:58:26
Steve-O
um I've been playing a game on my handheld, ah the Switch 2. It is called Pokemon Legends ZA. And i want to Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:58:35
BeyBlade
Oh, another Pokemon on him.
00:58:36
silkdong
Oh, that corpo Corpo Greed, the game?
00:58:38
Steve-O
I'm corporate trash. ah
00:58:41
Steve-O
But I'm corporate trash for playing it. I really enjoyed Pokemon Legends Arceus that came out in 2022.
00:58:41
silkdong
not saying Pokemon is corpo trash.
00:58:52
Steve-O
ah That was a game that was a surprise to me. ah It was basically like, hey, you end up back in time to like back when Pokemon were considered these like wild, feral animal creatures.
00:59:05
Steve-O
And they were dangerous and they scared towns. And ah your character basically like helped instill some trust into like taking taking these like creatures into their lives. And ah you would go out into the zones and and it was real like Breath of the Wild meets Pokemon. It was kind of neat. It was it's probably my favorite Pokemon game I've ever played.
00:59:26
Steve-O
I played it earlier this year, even just because I wanted to you know prep myself for the later release for ZA that came out.
00:59:33
silkdong
Condition. You wanted get conditioned. Condition yourself.
00:59:35
Steve-O
Yeah, I wanted to get back into it. um And this one was weird. This one I thought was like, i'm like, OK, well, it's strange because rather there it's Pokemon Legends ZA.
00:59:47
Steve-O
The whole gist of this is it takes place in the future of their fake France, Lumio City from Pokemon XY. Yeah. And the whole point of it is basically ah there are sectors of the city that have been declared wild zones that you go into, and they're pretty small.
01:00:06
Steve-O
Like there's small sections of the city where you go and you catch wild Pokemon. But at night, sections of the city become declared battle zones. And you go in there and you basically get into like little like Pokemon fights and you have to get enough fights to take on ah the quote unquote, ah like the rank leader.
01:00:26
Steve-O
And then once you beat them, you go up a rank, you start from rank Z and you got to work your way up to rank a, and I'm like, all right, well, you know, let's see if this is any good. I've been playing it and it definitely feels like it's one step forward, but two steps back.
01:00:43
Steve-O
The big thing that
Game Pricing Frustrations
01:00:44
Steve-O
is good about this is the Pokemon actual battle system is now kind of like live. It's ah it's like actual like live action. It is not RPG.
01:00:53
silkdong
Oh, it's like it's real time, real time combat.
01:00:55
Steve-O
It's real time. Yeah, thank you. ah You're basically like you call out a move and like the Pokemon does it and like you're running around and the Pokemon's kind of like trying to like stay by your movement.
01:01:06
Steve-O
If you call for like a protect move when the other one is attacking, your Pokemon will like block it if you time it perfectly. It's a lot of that. And while there are moments where that is cool, there are also a ton of moments where your Pokemon will get stuck behind a fucking dumpster and it is aggravating because I'm just trying to like catch a Pidgey or some shit.
01:01:28
Steve-O
and there are just so many unnecessary, like frustrations where it's like, why why does this feel like you're like, you're making so many steps backwards. I know you're trying new things, but like the zones are too small.
01:01:42
Steve-O
The city atmosphere is like kind of boring and repetitive. Like the thing about Pokemon that's fun is it's like, Hey, I'm in like the the the snowy section of the map.
01:01:53
Steve-O
I'm going to catch some like snow ice Pokemon, like stuff like that. But it's all just like a city and it just all looks very similar. ah It is something that I am.
01:02:04
Steve-O
I'm playing. I'm having a good time with, but it is not anything that is like I'm not like ah if anybody's like, I can't wait to play the new Pokemon game. I'd be like, maybe you want to wait
Indie Games and Industry Trends
01:02:14
Steve-O
because this ain't it like.
01:02:14
silkdong
Yeah.
01:02:15
semendemon
Steve, if if I could interject, if I could quantify this down as simply as possible, do you think this is a game for babies?
01:02:23
Steve-O
I don't think this is a game for babies. I think this is, it's aggravating because.
01:02:25
semendemon
Oh, shit.
01:02:28
silkdong
Is it a game for Disney adults? Disney World adults?
01:02:31
semendemon
Ooh.
01:02:33
Steve-O
No, no, because if it was a game for Disney adults, there'd be more Pokemon from the the original 151. No,
01:02:42
silkdong
Is it a low IQ game is what Chris and I are asking. Like, do
01:02:45
Steve-O
no it's, you know, that's the thing. It's not.
01:02:48
semendemon
It's just annoying because you have to think.
01:02:48
silkdong
Okay.
01:02:48
BeyBlade
Oh.
01:02:49
Steve-O
It's frustrating.
01:02:50
silkdong
Okay.
01:02:51
Steve-O
It's like there are points in the game where like the wild zones are so small. So you'll be like, oh, I need to catch that Pokemon. And then like eight other fucking Pokemon while you're trying to battle this one Pokemon will just start fucking attacking you, the player, not your Pokemon.
01:03:08
Steve-O
They will start hitting you. And you're like, what the fuck? Like, get away from me, birds. Like, I'm trying to catch this like hippopotamus.
01:03:12
semendemon
Yeah.
01:03:14
silkdong
Dude, they should have early accessed it, I guess.
01:03:17
Steve-O
I'm not going lie. They probably should have. It is kind of kind of buggy in a lot of spots. ah This is a game that I would give a fuck to.
01:03:28
silkdong
Okay, so it's not like horrible.
01:03:28
Steve-O
but and But the thing is, it's I feel like Pokemon at its best is a good set.
01:03:33
semendemon
No good set, though. Yeah, yeah.
01:03:36
Steve-O
um This is like probably a Pokemon game where I'm like... I'm having fun just like experiencing like the, the world in the story, like Scarlet Violet, the last mainline game, ah was a little bit of a letdown for me. It's a lot of the stuff that I didn't like in that one where it's like, you couldn't customize your character,
01:03:57
Steve-O
ah it you can customize your character crazy in this one because it's basically like you're in France so there's a lot of fancy stores um my character looks like an absolute Euro trash motherfucker I love it like just leather boots and like weird overalls with like some nonsense logos and I'm like that's great I'm like running around in this but the problem is the actual like Pokemon part like I feel like they perfected it in the game that they made in 2022 and I feel like they didn't understand what they made and like what gold they struck and they've just been kind of like
01:04:36
Steve-O
but they've been taking steps backwards in trying to ah bring it to more modern audiences with like real time action.
01:04:39
silkdong
Right.
01:04:44
BeyBlade
but it's going to sell billions.
01:04:46
Steve-O
Oh, it's going to sell like hotcakes. But the thing is in a year where they released like probably the most popular Digimon game to date. I can't give you an actual answer. If someone was like, should I get Pokemon or Digimon?
01:04:57
Steve-O
I don't know. Like, I don't know anything about Digimon. I don't have that. Like, but like, it sounds like people who love Digimon love that game. So.
01:05:04
semendemon
Well, Devin, you got a project.
01:05:06
silkdong
one thing The one thing that...
01:05:07
Steve-O
Get to work.
01:05:07
BeyBlade
but
01:05:07
silkdong
one thing that ah cause i was I was thinking about getting getting it for Sam because she's played like all the other Pokemons too.
01:05:08
semendemon
Get the work.
01:05:14
silkdong
But like um one, it was $70 and you you know i have a I have a fucking limit to my spending on games now to $20. But also, the fact that there was day one DLC that cost $30 but doesn't add story content until February.
01:05:32
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:05:32
silkdong
Like really fucking... I was just like, what? my what did I just read? They
01:05:37
Steve-O
The Pokemon company knows no bounds when it comes to greed.
01:05:40
silkdong
know, yeah, they know they're gonna fucking, they're just gonna, people are just gonna buy it anyway. But it's like, yeah, it's just like, yeah, what else has Day 1 DLC that's not like a free-to-play, like, Fortnite model game, you know?
01:05:45
Steve-O
They've been selling two copies of the same game since 1996. Like, these motherfuckers don't have any fucking heart.
01:06:02
silkdong
Because it it sounded like a season pass,
01:06:02
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:06:02
BeyBlade
I mean, like, was just going to say, is it any different than a season pass, though?
01:06:02
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:06:07
BeyBlade
Like, are we just being dramatic?
01:06:07
silkdong
Well, yeah, because you get the Mega Raichu evolutions, right?
01:06:13
Steve-O
Right.
01:06:13
silkdong
That's if you find Raichu in the game. then And also, you get shirts for your character. But then like the the dl so the actual DLC, like what you're buying is the story content, and that doesn't come out until February, which kind of but kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
01:06:27
Steve-O
Right.
01:06:29
silkdong
cause it's like yeah but it's but They're basically saying you're pre-ordering the DLC and you get these bonuses, but it doesn't come out until February.
01:06:35
Steve-O
And the strange thing is that's definitely not enough time for that.
01:06:36
silkdong
But they don't call it a pre-order.
01:06:41
Steve-O
Like, this is definitely DLC that they probably, like, portioned off.
01:06:44
silkdong
That's not even, yeah, and that's not fully complete yet. It's not fully finished.
01:06:47
Steve-O
Like, yeah, it's going to have to complete DLC. It's only go take you three months. Like, yeah okay. um
01:06:53
silkdong
Yeah.
01:06:53
Steve-O
Yeah, just in general.
01:06:54
silkdong
I was just like, what?
01:06:56
Steve-O
Like, again, I'm having fun with it.
01:06:57
silkdong
Hey, man, if it was if it was on Xbox and you got got Xbox Ultimate Game Pass, then maybe you would have just gotten this for free, too, you know?
01:07:06
Steve-O
Yeah, you know, that's that is the thing. Like, I think this is... um This was one of the big hitters for the Switch 2.
01:07:15
silkdong
Yeah, that is one of the system sellers.
01:07:15
Steve-O
so I mean, it's on the Switch 1 as well. But, like, you know, you're like, oh, man, Switch 2, it's going to have the new Mario Kart, Donkey Kong... new Pokemon Metroid. If Mario Kart was like real good, but a disappointment and then Donkey Kong was like the banger game.
01:07:31
Steve-O
It is like it's phenomenal. Uh, and then Pokemon is just like kind of like good game, but it's letdown.
01:07:38
silkdong
Dude, does this temper does this temper our expectations for Metroid Prime?
01:07:39
Steve-O
Uh,
01:07:44
Steve-O
That's the thing. It's like everything Devin was saying about Metroid. I'm like, oh no, this might be like a monkey's paw situation where it's like Switch 2, but all the games are shit. Except for Donkey Kong because that's the monkey's paw.
01:07:57
BeyBlade
You know, it's it's the it's the exception proves the rule, right?
01:07:57
semendemon
Yeah, you get the one monkey, Paul.
01:07:57
silkdong
yeah Well, that was the Mario Odyssey team.
01:07:59
Steve-O
yeah Right.
01:08:01
BeyBlade
It's like...
01:08:01
silkdong
oh and And honestly, the highest rated game this year on OpenCritic is Tears of the Kingdom Switch 2 Edition. so
01:08:10
BeyBlade
God, I hate that. I hate that so much. That stuff really shouldn't count on this list.
01:08:15
Steve-O
But you know what?
01:08:15
silkdong
they shouldn't even They shouldn't even put it on there.
01:08:17
BeyBlade
Like, they should be, yeah, disqualified.
01:08:18
Steve-O
Hey, didn't count for fantasy, so it doesn't count for us.
01:08:22
silkdong
Well, the Final Fantasy Tactics remake counted, so. Anything goes, I guess.
01:08:26
Steve-O
and Well, if they gave it like a subtitle, like Hyrulean, Hyrulean pain.
01:08:31
silkdong
Oh, yeah. Tears the Kingdom. Yeah. No.
01:08:34
semendemon
Abortion Eater.
01:08:34
silkdong
No, it's Tears of the Kingdom.
01:08:36
Steve-O
Oh my God.
01:08:36
silkdong
It's Tears of the Kingdom Switch 2 Edition.
01:08:37
semendemon
Final Fantasy Tactics Abortion Eater Edition.
01:08:37
BeyBlade
yeah
01:08:43
BeyBlade
what a level up looks like somebody's just overstepping Ghost of Yote like it's not a game of the year
01:08:46
silkdong
So, yeah. we might We might have a game game awards where...
01:08:47
semendemon
Much better.
01:08:49
silkdong
an I mean, we're probably going to have a game awards where an indie game is going to win Game of the Year. That's kind of crazy, right? What's last time an indie game won? Game of the year.
01:08:58
Steve-O
Oh, that's a good question.
01:09:04
semendemon
It Takes Two?
01:09:06
silkdong
No, I mean, it's probably going to get nominated, but that's not going to fucking win.
01:09:08
semendemon
that it
01:09:10
BeyBlade
Nah, nah, I know. Nah, I agree.
01:09:11
semendemon
was it? Was it It Takes Two?
01:09:12
BeyBlade
I agree.
01:09:14
semendemon
Was that the last one?
01:09:14
silkdong
That's not it.
01:09:14
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah.
01:09:15
Steve-O
That's EA.
01:09:15
silkdong
That's an EA game.
01:09:15
BeyBlade
thought that was the a yay, yeah.
01:09:15
Steve-O
That's a EA game.
01:09:16
silkdong
That's EA.
01:09:16
semendemon
Oh, wow.
01:09:17
silkdong
Yeah, that's mega.
01:09:17
BeyBlade
But it's like, yeah, it's...
01:09:18
silkdong
That's mega.
01:09:19
Steve-O
Wait, was it Baldur's Gate 3?
01:09:19
BeyBlade
don't
01:09:19
semendemon
Mega Corpo.
01:09:21
silkdong
That's Arasaka. That's Chris, Arasaka released the game called It Takes Two.
01:09:24
BeyBlade
know. Yeah, but like, don't know, that'd be like saying CD Projekt Red's indie, right?
01:09:27
silkdong
have
01:09:30
BeyBlade
If it's just not one of the big two.
01:09:33
Steve-O
Is Larian Studios indie?
01:09:35
BeyBlade
I'd say layering studios
Indie vs. Corporate Influence
01:09:37
BeyBlade
is like CD Projekt Red style.
01:09:37
silkdong
no no we had we had this No, we had this discussion. Like, the the weird, blurred line that all the Baldur's Gate Glazers, sorry, Chris, all the Baldur's Gate Glazers in the Discord we trying to were trying to to fight back on,
01:09:52
silkdong
Was the fact that they're backed by fucking Hasbro. Because it's a Dungeons and Dragons. IP game. So. They made magic cards for Baldur's Gate.
01:10:04
silkdong
So is that.
01:10:04
Steve-O
Hmm. might.
01:10:04
silkdong
is that
01:10:06
semendemon
Right.
01:10:06
silkdong
You know do I have magic cards for Hollow Knight? For Sea of Stars?
01:10:09
semendemon
It's too deeply it's too deeply and entrenched in corporate, corporal IPs to be...
01:10:10
silkdong
No.
01:10:10
Steve-O
right
01:10:15
silkdong
Yeah it's it's weird. Because yeah like Hasbro doesn't really have their. Their dicks like in the. the D&D stuff because they don't really touch it but they also they're also like somewhat funded by them too because they they own the IP they make money for them and you know I guess to the point where Larian doesn't even want to do another Baldur's Gate because you know like that's like that's the main thing yes like they don't want to be they don't want to answer to these guys so like you I don't know if you can count count I mean Hasbro is fucking horrible they're a horrible company so they're Pinkertons
01:10:23
semendemon
Yeah.
01:10:33
semendemon
That's, I think, a very
01:10:34
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:10:36
semendemon
poignant thing about why they're not making another one smart
01:10:46
semendemon
yeah they're pretty bad yes they are yes they are
01:10:49
silkdong
a They killed Arthur Morgan. But um um I'm trying to see what...
01:10:53
BeyBlade
who
01:10:55
silkdong
ah So it was Astro Bot, Baldur's Gate, Elden Ring, It Takes two Last of Us 2, Sekiro, God of War, Breath of the Wild, Overwatch, Witcher 3, Dragon Age Inquisition were the Game of the Year Game game Awards winners.
01:11:14
semendemon
you
01:11:15
BeyBlade
Yeah, like Claire. I mean, i feel like Claire or...
01:11:19
silkdong
Or Hades 2.
01:11:20
BeyBlade
Dude, I think it's in the back.
01:11:22
Steve-O
Claire, Hades 2, and Hollow Knight Silksong are the top contenders.
01:11:22
BeyBlade
Hades, yeah.
01:11:22
silkdong
hello
01:11:25
silkdong
Yeah, those are the those are the the games to beat, but it's probably going to go to Hades 2 or Claire Obscure if I were to...
01:11:25
BeyBlade
well
01:11:30
BeyBlade
and
01:11:31
Steve-O
Other strong contenders, Death Stranding 2, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, Donkey Kong Bonanza, Ghost of Yodi.
01:11:34
silkdong
But is it a cop-out if Claire Obscure did Because they had they had literal movie they literal movie stars do voice act or do a performance capture in the game. So it's like... It's a count of an indie game still.
01:11:44
Steve-O
I mean,
01:11:46
silkdong
Steve. When Daredevil's in the game.
01:11:48
BeyBlade
That's true. You know what? That might be fair to say it's like a budget game and as opposed to an indie game. But then then, like, what's more indie, right? A low budget or just, like, the fact that...
01:11:59
silkdong
Yeah.
01:12:00
BeyBlade
don't know, man.
01:12:02
semendemon
a fine line.
01:12:03
BeyBlade
The odds are looking good, though, I'd say, for...
01:12:03
semendemon
I think a lot of that... The same thing happened with movies. like They say movies are indie, and that became a genre when it really didn't apply to movies.
01:12:11
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:12:11
silkdong
No, but it's like, you know, Sony, you know, the the the Sony, um you know, the people that do the fucking the low budget, you know, um indie looking movies, but they're still, you know, Sony.
01:12:27
silkdong
And also, A24 is kind of in that boat now, too, where it's like, it's not really...
01:12:27
semendemon
Well, yeah. it's, you can't really call it an indie project if it's coming out of a production company. Like, an independent project is something that's financed by whoever's making it, you know, an independent production.
01:12:35
silkdong
Right. Yeah.
01:12:40
silkdong
Yeah.
01:12:41
semendemon
So, it's like, it became a genre. That's the the issue. And that sucked. That was like corporate America basically destroying it and what indie means even, like the idea of that.
01:12:56
semendemon
um Yeah, like, and they're, very few independent films that won Academy Awards. Like,
Game Awards Predictions
01:13:03
semendemon
it's not, there are a lot of movies that get funded by bigger production companies.
01:13:08
Steve-O
Was Parasite Indie?
01:13:10
semendemon
I think that was just, it that was an independent production, but it was distributed by ah larger company.
01:13:14
silkdong
was distributed by Sony. Let me see.
01:13:17
semendemon
So it's like, it all kind of like, comes out in the wash in the same way.
01:13:17
Steve-O
That makes sense.
01:13:22
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:13:23
semendemon
it's You know? ah Which is unfortunate. That kind of sucks.
01:13:28
Steve-O
Still, you know, we're not seeing like the monsters take over the field in this one.
01:13:28
semendemon
But,
01:13:35
Steve-O
It seems like there's a lot of games that have the various price ranges all over the board. um So that's interesting. That is interesting.
01:13:45
Steve-O
We're going to have a very interesting game of the year from the Game Awards.
01:13:52
silkdong
Yeah, I would like to see Claire Obscure or Silksong win over Hades 2 just because of the shit we're talking about.
01:13:52
semendemon
Yeah.
01:14:01
silkdong
They had a whole fucking year and a half to so fucking make their game good.
01:14:05
semendemon
Devin, what's your game of the year?
01:14:07
BeyBlade
You
Personal Gaming Experiences
01:14:08
BeyBlade
know, I was talking about this on the in the game chat. Like, this is, like, not a good year for me. Like, it's like...
01:14:14
semendemon
Yeah, same here, dog.
01:14:15
silkdong
You know, Witcher 3 didn't come out this year, Chris, so it's not a good year for Devin.
01:14:15
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's only been a decade in Witcher 3.
01:14:20
silkdong
Yeah.
01:14:21
semendemon
i'm in I'm in the same boat.
01:14:21
BeyBlade
I knew you were in Witcher 3.
01:14:22
semendemon
I'm going to kind end the same boat.
01:14:23
BeyBlade
Yeah, like, I like Ghost of Yote a lot. But shout out, three down. Three official down of the six.
01:14:30
silkdong
Oh, shit. did Who was it? Who was the last one ah he took that took down?
01:14:33
BeyBlade
ah The last one I took down was the Kitsune.
01:14:36
silkdong
Oh, the fox. That means fox in Japanese.
01:14:37
Steve-O
Fox.
01:14:38
BeyBlade
The fox. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I took down the fox and now I'm fighting...
01:14:42
silkdong
Did they say kitsune? Did they say it like that in the game?
01:14:45
Steve-O
Tinkates!
01:14:45
BeyBlade
no, no. no They would say like, Itzune.
01:14:45
silkdong
You
01:14:46
semendemon
Get you.
01:14:49
BeyBlade
It's not...
01:14:49
silkdong
gotta take down the kitsune in Yotei.
01:14:50
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:14:52
Steve-O
there
01:14:53
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:14:53
silkdong
Okay?
01:14:53
Steve-O
Yachty.
01:14:54
silkdong
That's how they talk.
01:14:56
semendemon
Yo.
01:14:56
Steve-O
Take on the Arnie.
01:14:57
silkdong
Because it's Sucker Punch. Is that Sucker Punch touch him?
01:14:59
semendemon
Yo, Tay, get my money back.
01:14:59
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:15:01
semendemon
What are you doing here?
01:15:01
Steve-O
die
01:15:03
BeyBlade
Everybody just sounds like Aldo land from fucking glorious.
01:15:05
semendemon
Tay, what are you showing your face for?
01:15:07
silkdong
Yeah.
01:15:07
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:15:08
Steve-O
yeah
01:15:08
semendemon
Yo, Tay, what are you showing your face and towel for? You owe me money.
01:15:12
Steve-O
Bye.
01:15:14
BeyBlade
Yeah. yeah But, uh, what was the, that was the question. Uh, yeah. Like I, I really like it. It's not like there's nothing about it where I'm saying yes, a hundred percent. This is the the game of the year.
01:15:27
BeyBlade
Uh, I was really enjoying Claire obscure, but like i I definitely have some issues with it, and I still am excited to get back to it. um But, like, you know, I kind of have issues with the gameplay, which, to me, right now, isn't screaming, oh, yeah, this is definitely Game of the Year.
01:15:46
BeyBlade
um
Dark Souls and Gaming Challenges
01:15:48
BeyBlade
Not a, you know, not going to touch Silksong, not going to touch any sort of FromSoft-type game.
01:15:56
silkdong
What about Doom?
01:15:58
BeyBlade
dune Dune was, like... ah It was a good time, but like it's not...
01:16:03
silkdong
Or Death Stranding 2?
01:16:03
BeyBlade
you know Yeah, Dune the Dark Ages.
01:16:04
semendemon
ah Wait, I'm sorry. Did you say Doom or Doom?
01:16:08
silkdong
Doom of the Dark Ages.
01:16:08
Steve-O
could you know You could honestly say both.
01:16:09
semendemon
doo
01:16:10
Steve-O
You could ask both.
01:16:10
BeyBlade
Dune the Dark Ages.
01:16:10
semendemon
You could honestly say both.
01:16:12
silkdong
You could say both, yeah.
01:16:13
BeyBlade
Yeah. I didn't touch the Dune game.
01:16:16
semendemon
Okay.
01:16:17
semendemon
Okay.
01:16:17
BeyBlade
um
01:16:18
BeyBlade
Chris, I'm disappointed you haven't, but...
01:16:20
semendemon
don't know.
01:16:21
BeyBlade
Nah, you saw it. You said not for me.
01:16:22
semendemon
Yeah, I'm um i'm not into those types of games.
01:16:22
BeyBlade
um
01:16:24
semendemon
Okay.
01:16:24
BeyBlade
Wait, what was the... this You guys mentioned another one that I'm like blank.
01:16:27
silkdong
Doom, dot Death Stranding 2.
01:16:29
BeyBlade
Yeah, I haven't touched that one. I didn't play that. And maybe maybe that one, considering how... That would have been...
01:16:37
semendemon
Wait, you haven't touched Death Stranding 2? Oh, okay.
01:16:39
silkdong
Wow, Corpo Devin, I'm going to pick the AAA studio game.
01:16:39
BeyBlade
No, no, I didn't. I didn't beat that.
01:16:40
Steve-O
You know what?
01:16:42
BeyBlade
That would have been my Hollow Knight in the Silksong moment.
01:16:42
Steve-O
Devin Kopech, that's what I was going to say.
01:16:45
silkdong
adam
01:16:45
Steve-O
You could have done that. That was there for you, and you chose not to John it.
01:16:47
BeyBlade
Yeah. You know what I chose to do? I chose to fucking play that...
01:16:53
silkdong
Cyberpunk?
01:16:54
BeyBlade
No, chose to play Claire of Skir or or...
01:16:54
silkdong
Wait, wait, what is
01:16:55
Steve-O
and but
01:16:58
BeyBlade
Shinobi or...
01:16:59
silkdong
Yeah, why didn't you just go straight into Death Stranding 2?
01:17:02
BeyBlade
Because I didn't... I thought it'd be too much because I will say by the end of it, I was like ready.
01:17:06
silkdong
Because, the yeah, the John Suarez way is playing Red Dead 1 right into Red Dead 2, playing Hollow Knight right Playing Dark Souls 1 and then starting Dark Souls 2 and throwing up and then being gaslit by the
01:17:12
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's pretty intense. I don't know if I could... Because like it was getting the point where I was like, all right, I'm ready to to be done with it. Yeah.
01:17:28
silkdong
by the Souls community in our Discord, saying saying that my clear doesn't count until I play the DLC, so I'm playing Dark Souls 1 again, too, on the side, Chris.
01:17:29
semendemon
Don't listen to those people. Don't listen to those people.
01:17:38
semendemon
Well, you gotta know what happens to his stores.
01:17:41
Steve-O
They're bullying you.
01:17:41
silkdong
Yeah, okay.
01:17:42
Steve-O
They're bullying you, John.
01:17:42
BeyBlade
Obviously, obviously.
01:17:43
silkdong
Yeah, they're fucking bullying me.
01:17:44
semendemon
You gotta know.
01:17:45
Steve-O
They see what you can do and they want to just push you to madness.
01:17:46
BeyBlade
But...
01:17:48
silkdong
Dude, I loaded up Dark Souls 2 again, and they're like, ah, nah, dude, you gotta go back and play Dark Souls 1.
01:17:49
BeyBlade
but
01:17:54
semendemon
Yeah, what have you done?
01:17:54
silkdong
After fucking, after sending me the fucking Green Goblin mask for fucking months, because I didn't i didn't i didn't complete Dark Souls 2 yet, they're saying, I gotta to go back now.
01:17:55
semendemon
What are you doing?
01:18:03
semendemon
What are you doing?
01:18:04
BeyBlade
pull
01:18:05
semendemon
Tommy? What the hell?
01:18:07
silkdong
Well, Amir said Dark Souls 1, the DLC, and then going right into Dark Souls 3, he said.
01:18:07
semendemon
Dark Souls 2? Yeah.
01:18:12
silkdong
But then, but I know, he's, no, but he's setting me up, Devin.
01:18:12
BeyBlade
That's what I hear. That is the move, yeah.
01:18:17
semendemon
yeah
01:18:18
silkdong
Because as soon as I start Dark Souls 3, he's going to like, oh, well, you didn't play Dark Souls 2 yet. So you got to go back and play that and all the DLC.
01:18:23
BeyBlade
yeah
01:18:25
silkdong
Yeah,
01:18:27
Steve-O
Dude, it's just set up for failure. You can't win unless you defeat them all.
01:18:29
silkdong
I'm right.
01:18:31
semendemon
Yep.
01:18:31
silkdong
And I got to listen to Tim act like he likes Blighttown. Like, no, you don't. buy
01:18:37
Steve-O
Well, hold on.
01:18:37
silkdong
Nobody likes Blighttown, Tim.
01:18:37
Steve-O
Let's check let's tech just's check Tim's achievements. Let's check
Gaming Community Perspectives
01:18:41
Steve-O
Tim's achievements because I don't see any Dark Souls achievements on his list.
01:18:41
silkdong
ah you can
01:18:41
semendemon
Oh, boy.
01:18:43
silkdong
He's a ghost. He's the ghost of Yotin.
01:18:47
Steve-O
Yo, Tim!
01:18:48
silkdong
so We can't see him anywhere.
01:18:49
semendemon
Yo, Tim. Yo, Tim, what are you doing here? You got no achievements.
01:18:53
Steve-O
God damn it, Tim.
01:18:53
semendemon
there
01:18:54
Steve-O
You don't even got this fucking game on your Steam list.
01:18:57
silkdong
Yeah, Devin, ask Tim what his game of the year is.
01:18:58
Steve-O
He's got two... Ooh, he does have two perfect games.
01:19:00
silkdong
first The first half of Donkey Kong Bonanza?
01:19:04
Steve-O
His two perfect games on Steam.
01:19:04
silkdong
The first act of ah first act of Silk Song?
01:19:07
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
01:19:08
Steve-O
His two perfect... Tim's two perfect games on Steam is Elden Ring.
01:19:09
silkdong
What's his game of the year?
01:19:12
BeyBlade
i
01:19:13
Steve-O
He's got 42 achievements of 42 of Elden Ring.
01:19:13
BeyBlade
yeah
01:19:16
semendemon
Yeah, got one of those.
01:19:16
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:19:17
Steve-O
And the second one is Cats Hidden in Jingle Jam.
01:19:20
semendemon
Dude.
01:19:21
silkdong
Wait, you're looking at his profile?
01:19:22
BeyBlade
It's got to be...
01:19:22
semendemon
Don't sleep.
01:19:22
BeyBlade
It's got to be a
01:19:23
Steve-O
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. are...
01:19:26
silkdong
Well...
01:19:26
semendemon
but From soft game.
01:19:27
silkdong
No, but he's got...
01:19:27
Steve-O
um
01:19:29
silkdong
He's got a...
01:19:29
semendemon
with
01:19:29
silkdong
um He's got, like, a... He's got a nuance to his account because...
01:19:32
BeyBlade
You can hide that.
01:19:34
silkdong
No, because he, like, shares games with his family and stuff. So I think... i don't know if those come up or not. But...
01:19:40
BeyBlade
Yeah. I mean, I don't mean to assume, but that definitely sounds like a wife game.
01:19:46
semendemon
Hold on.
01:19:47
BeyBlade
It does.
01:19:48
semendemon
You haven't played it yet.
01:19:48
BeyBlade
and i will that's i mean, fair enough.
01:19:50
silkdong
Yeah, let me see. Where this is his achievement?
01:19:51
semendemon
Evan, add it to your list.
01:19:51
silkdong
I'm looking now, too.
01:19:52
semendemon
Digimon and that cat game.
01:19:54
Steve-O
Dude, Jon's going to come to us and be like, I've played all the Cats Hidden series.
01:19:59
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:20:00
semendemon
You guys are sleeping on this?
01:20:01
silkdong
ah wait. Tim's played Absalom, too?
01:20:03
Steve-O
Yeah, he's gotten he's got a lot of achievements in that.
01:20:04
silkdong
Tim's played a lot of Alien games.
01:20:07
semendemon
Oh, boy. Here we go.
01:20:08
silkdong
He's got one achievement in American Truck Simulator, so respect.
01:20:11
BeyBlade
that's a thing tim Tim has this back door where he can just blame it on a relative. It's probably my dad. My dad played that one.
01:20:17
semendemon
Oh
01:20:19
BeyBlade
Tim, why are you playing Hentai Simulator 3?
01:20:20
silkdong
Oh, Cyberpunk is blurred out. i don't know why Cyberpunk blurred out, but...
01:20:24
BeyBlade
Wow, that's crazy.
01:20:25
Steve-O
Oh, Amnesia Rebirth, Florida.
01:20:26
silkdong
I don't know, dude.
01:20:26
Steve-O
out
01:20:28
silkdong
I don't know, man. Chris, tell me what you see here. Hopefully Tim doesn't listen. I don't think he does, but...
01:20:37
semendemon
oh boy.
01:20:37
Steve-O
No, we're just having fun.
01:20:37
silkdong
I know, Chris.
01:20:38
Steve-O
We're just having fun.
01:20:38
silkdong
Yeah, we're just having fun. We're just having fun.
01:20:40
semendemon
Oh boy.
01:20:41
BeyBlade
Now, Tim's an embarrassment to the species.
01:20:42
silkdong
But I don't know, dude.
01:20:44
Steve-O
He does have a lot of games. I will give him this.
01:20:46
silkdong
Chris, look at that.
01:20:46
Steve-O
I'm actually like, oh, no.
01:20:48
silkdong
Should I even be listening to him?
01:20:50
Steve-O
Oh, no.
01:20:51
BeyBlade
No, wait, let me look, let me look.
01:20:52
Steve-O
Dude, just fire that response.
01:20:53
silkdong
No, I'm not doing that. I don't want to...
01:20:56
BeyBlade
Wait, to be fair, did Tim say something?
01:20:56
silkdong
Because then he'll like he'll like leave the community. i don't want to do that.
01:20:59
Steve-O
No, I don't think it'll leave the community.
01:21:00
BeyBlade
Now, did Tim say something, or was this was he also on the bandwagon, or was he just like, ah you know, yeah have fun with it?
01:21:01
silkdong
and I don't think
01:21:08
Steve-O
Yeah, was he pushing it was he pushing you to play these?
01:21:08
silkdong
he
01:21:10
BeyBlade
Because if this was Amir, I'd be like, absolutely.
01:21:11
silkdong
He...
01:21:11
semendemon
I mean, yeah, he loves the DLC.
01:21:11
silkdong
gave... he gave then a oh yeah, Amir, you don't want to look at it you don't want to look his ah chief ah Amir's achievements.
01:21:13
semendemon
I love the DLC.
01:21:17
semendemon
I mean, i it is a really good DLC.
01:21:17
silkdong
He's a fucking psychopath.
01:21:20
semendemon
I like it too.
01:21:21
silkdong
No, no, he, you know, he agreed.
01:21:21
Steve-O
i I've heard how dusty Amir's consoles are, so
01:21:24
silkdong
He agreed. to me Yeah, Amir's got dusty-ass PlayStations.
01:21:25
BeyBlade
Mm-hmm.
01:21:29
silkdong
Oh my god, that that whole thing, man.
01:21:31
Steve-O
that's us That's a story to have.
01:21:32
silkdong
Yeah.
01:21:34
Steve-O
We can't update here, so we can't take these. Your console's little too dusty, buddy.
01:21:38
silkdong
Yeah, what is it? Ghost of Yote, Death Stranding. Like, cause like, what? Oh, dude, so at Owen's T-Ball game on Saturday morning, I was like,
01:21:50
silkdong
you know, a couple of the dads were talking about video games, so I, you know, shimmied over just to, you know, just to see.
01:21:57
semendemon
Oh, boy.
01:21:58
silkdong
And, ah you know you know, they're just like, it I mean, I was able to have a conversation with them, but, like, it was like, they were just talking about the new Battlefield and how Call of Duty's coming out, and I'm like, yeah, that's cool.
01:22:06
semendemon
yep Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what all I hear.
01:22:07
BeyBlade
okay
01:22:09
semendemon
I go on the wild.
01:22:11
silkdong
Did you ever hear a game called Hollow Knight? No, I didn't say that. I know how to read a room. I know how to read a room.
01:22:18
semendemon
That's what all I hear Battlefield.
01:22:18
silkdong
But, yeah, like, so...
01:22:18
Steve-O
what's your What's your thoughts on a Hornet?
01:22:19
silkdong
yeah So like thats
01:22:21
semendemon
i go on the wild that's that's you all hear is battlefield
01:22:24
silkdong
that's all you hear. Yeah.
01:22:25
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:22:25
silkdong
Yeah. I mean, and I'm like, yeah, that's cool. So i was able to have conversations with them about, you know, about, um like, yeah, i used to be like in my twenties call call duty, like die hard, like, you know, but it just seemed like for years, it's just been like the kind of the same game. So like, you know, I haven't really been into it.
01:22:42
silkdong
Uh, and I don't really have any interest in the new call duty to come out, but I'm hearing good things about battlefield six, blah, blah, blah, you know, And then they started talking about their gaming rigs and stuff. And the one guy's like, yeah, did you ever see, like, those big controllers that, like, the like the fighting games players use that are buttons? I'm like, raised my I'm like, that's me!
01:23:01
silkdong
I'm that guy! i' have, like, four of them!
01:23:02
Steve-O
That's me. Yeah.
01:23:04
silkdong
They're like, yeah, I could never do that! i'm like, yeah, I know. See
01:23:08
Steve-O
ah
01:23:11
silkdong
ya. So, that that's my that's my conversation.
01:23:12
semendemon
It's hard.
01:23:13
BeyBlade
Mm-hmm.
01:23:15
silkdong
No, but, like, it, like, shows, like, how, like, um... how different we are from like, and I don't mean this in a reductive way, but like the ah cat the casual gaming community, which is a very large community, you know?
01:23:22
semendemon
The average gamer?
01:23:26
Steve-O
yeah
01:23:26
semendemon
Yeah.
01:23:29
semendemon
It's... it's
01:23:29
silkdong
Like, I'm sure I could have brought up Red Dead. They probably they probably have played Red Dead 2 and GTA and stuff, right?
01:23:33
semendemon
i hear I hear Madden and I hear Battlefield. like Those are the two that get bandied about the most in in public. And it's so hard for me to connect on either of those.
01:23:42
silkdong
Yeah.
01:23:45
semendemon
like I like football.
01:23:45
silkdong
And, like, the the one guy was, like, super hardcore. Like, he was like, yeah, like, you know, I love Battlefield, blah, blah, blah. And I wanted to be, like, the the demon Suarez was wanted to be like, dude, I haven't touched a shooter in, like, years.
01:23:56
semendemon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:24:01
silkdong
But i i would I would wipe the floor with you in any these games.
01:24:01
semendemon
Yeah, like what's wrong with you? you
01:24:06
silkdong
You know what mean? Because, like, you could tell you could tell that they're not, you know, they're probably not, like, skilled gamers. they just talk They just talk a lot, you know? And they, you know, because they're talking about like, you know, destroying wall ah buildings and stuff with with RPGs. And I'm like, dude, no.
01:24:21
silkdong
Like, what are you talking about? You're supposed to kill the other team. Like, we, can we, can we keep it?
01:24:26
Steve-O
Why are we shooting the buildings?
01:24:26
BeyBlade
Mm-hmm.
01:24:27
silkdong
Can we keep, can we keep the Zins in our gums and and stay locked in here, guys?
01:24:30
Steve-O
and
01:24:31
semendemon
yeah
01:24:31
silkdong
Please?
01:24:34
silkdong
So, yeah, like, that's, that's my thing. And then the other thing was like, um, like, like before there was the guy with the nemesis tattoo on his leg. So I was like, yo, here we go.
01:24:44
semendemon
Yo.
01:24:45
silkdong
I got a fucking dude now. So i'm like, yeah, I love your nemesis tattoo. And he's like, like the first thing he said was like, yeah. And then they fucking ruined it the remake. And i'm like all right, see you later, dude.
01:24:54
Steve-O
um
01:24:54
semendemon
Neat.
01:24:54
silkdong
I'll, uh, I'll catch you.
01:24:54
semendemon
Neat.
01:24:55
BeyBlade
no
01:24:55
semendemon
Yeah.
01:24:56
silkdong
I'll catch you later. Catch you later.
01:24:57
BeyBlade
You were that you were that grandpa you that grandpa Simpsons gif where he just comes in, you know takes his hat, walks right back out.
01:24:58
semendemon
be you dont need our needto you know
01:25:02
Steve-O
you just
01:25:05
silkdong
And then walks off. Yeah. Then walks right out of the bar.
01:25:08
BeyBlade
Like, never mind.
01:25:09
silkdong
Yeah, it's like like, that's it.
01:25:10
semendemon
a
01:25:10
silkdong
I mean, and that guy was probably a hardcore gamer, right? And like we are we are different still kind of different from those guys too, I think.
01:25:14
semendemon
yeah
01:25:15
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:25:19
silkdong
So it's kind of weird.
01:25:19
Steve-O
That's, it yeah, that's an interesting one because it's like, I definitely do hear that sentiment a lot. I think that is like the general sentiment about Resident Evil three remake.
01:25:32
semendemon
Well, there's a lot of nostalgia gamers out there, right? They have like certain very, very cherry, what is it? a Rose colored views of these past games.
01:25:42
semendemon
And those, those people can't accept like a remake, like Resonance.
01:25:47
silkdong
Right.
01:25:47
Steve-O
it's you know It's strange to me, though, because it's like these people, are like I think a lot of their opinions are from what other people have said about Resident Evil 3 Remake. i don't think I don't think the general public, if they played Resident Evil 3, would have the complaints that the internet discussion boards had about it.
01:25:56
semendemon
That's true.
01:26:06
silkdong
Yeah. And that's the thing. There's so many like sub communities. And I mean that in the literal sense and also in the pun sense where they're subhuman as well.
01:26:15
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
01:26:16
silkdong
Like,
01:26:16
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:26:17
silkdong
There are so many like sub-communities of even like these games, too, where it's like, these guys are fucking deplorable, too. like and And they're hardcore like like we are.
01:26:27
silkdong
you know
01:26:28
Steve-O
No,
01:26:28
silkdong
like I'm sure there's people...
01:26:29
semendemon
It's different head garbage.
01:26:32
silkdong
Right, yeah. Different different levels of rot, I guess, with um how people think now.
01:26:33
semendemon
Yeah.
01:26:39
silkdong
And like you could tell. like the guy I mean, the guy had a Nemesis tattoo. Not really the best choice, I think. Unless you're like ah like like an actual Resident Evil 3 freak.
01:26:49
silkdong
And at that point, it's like, you know, that's cool.
01:26:50
semendemon
Yeah.
01:26:51
silkdong
But like, it wasn't better than 2 originally.
01:26:55
Steve-O
no. no
01:26:56
silkdong
Like, we don't want it you want to have, yeah, yeah.
01:26:56
semendemon
Your views are flawed already.
01:26:58
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:26:58
silkdong
If you, yeah, if you want to have that, like, where's your Mr. X tattoo? You know, where's that tattoo? Where's the tyrant? I want to see the tyrant.
01:27:05
semendemon
Where's your Birkin? Where's your big Birkin eye on your shoulder?
01:27:06
silkdong
Yeah.
01:27:07
Steve-O
Yeah, be kind of sick.
01:27:07
silkdong
Where's your, where's your, yeah, where's your baby Sherry Birkin tattoo?
01:27:08
semendemon
Hey, that's a good eye.
01:27:11
silkdong
That's what I want to see, you know?
01:27:11
semendemon
That's a good tattoo for you, John. A big eye on your shoulder. Like a big Birkin eye.
01:27:16
silkdong
oh no
01:27:17
Steve-O
Just burst it out of your shoulder, dude.
01:27:17
silkdong
No, no i don't want to get in these discussions again. you guys, I can't, I don't, I can't get an art Resident Evil tattoo anymore because, because any, because of you guys.
01:27:26
semendemon
Oh, man.
01:27:28
silkdong
All right. Cause if my idea was bad.
01:27:29
BeyBlade
Come on.
01:27:29
semendemon
No fair could I. Damn.
01:27:31
silkdong
Cause my idea, know you guys didn't want me to get the, the Chad for, because nobody would know what it is.
01:27:36
BeyBlade
I just, you know, it's the chat. All right, all right. So, John, imagine that guy's perspective. Yeah, this fucking guy with a 2005 Resident Evil 4 cat who walked up to me.
01:27:47
silkdong
But it's just the four. It's just the four.
01:27:49
BeyBlade
I told him I didn't like the 3 remake, and he scoffed and walked away from me. What a fucking psycho.
01:27:53
silkdong
yeah
01:27:56
Steve-O
That would be sick if you got the Resident Evil 3 remake nemesis on your leg.
01:27:56
BeyBlade
but You have the...
01:28:01
BeyBlade
Ooh, yeah.
01:28:03
semendemon
Yeah, that's one of them.
01:28:04
BeyBlade
how would i imagine, John, you would have the four blade icon on each of your forearms, and then you'd just flex up.
01:28:11
silkdong
no
01:28:11
BeyBlade
and Like you're going to cut him? You're going to stab him with it?
01:28:14
semendemon
And you got Can You Swim right above your butt. Can you swim, bitch?
01:28:18
silkdong
Yeah, my my tattoo would be like, it would be Leon Kennedy wearing Arthur Morgan's hat and holding Hollow Knight's nail sword in his arm.
01:28:19
BeyBlade
Yeah, you can't even see him.
01:28:20
semendemon
Bitch can't even swim. There
01:28:29
semendemon
you go.
01:28:30
BeyBlade
John, i'm po right I'm telling you right now, just fire up ChatGPT, put that in there, and go in there and be like, I want this on my belly.
01:28:30
silkdong
that's That's my tattoo.
01:28:31
semendemon
Easy.
01:28:36
silkdong
Put that in there. All right, let me see.
01:28:39
BeyBlade
It's right on my stomach.
01:28:41
silkdong
Let me see. Let me see if he can even make it.
01:28:43
Steve-O
Leon Kennedy wearing, ah oh, who's the main character from ah Edge Runners?
01:28:48
semendemon
Oh, oh, David.
01:28:49
BeyBlade
David?
01:28:49
silkdong
ah David.
01:28:49
Steve-O
Yeah, wearing David's jacket with Arthur Morgan's hat.
01:28:50
silkdong
Alright, Arthur. Alright, Leon Kennedy. Leon Kennedy wearing Arthur Morgan's hat. David from Cyberpunk jacket and holding Hollow Knight nail in his knife hand.
01:29:09
semendemon
Wow.
01:29:10
silkdong
let's see if we can Let's see if it's smart enough.
01:29:12
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:29:13
semendemon
That's a good tattoo. Get that on your chest.
01:29:17
silkdong
How do you explain that to people?
01:29:18
BeyBlade
Right on your throat, dude.
01:29:19
silkdong
No, but what if one of what if one of those directors slash creators is on the Epstein list? Then I'm fucked. How do I change it? you know
01:29:28
BeyBlade
The creator of Arthur Morgan.
01:29:29
silkdong
that's why i can't That's why I can't spread my basket my eggs and into different baskets.
01:29:32
semendemon
If it's going to be anyone, it's going to be someone from Rockstar.
01:29:33
BeyBlade
I think...
01:29:33
silkdong
you know,
01:29:36
BeyBlade
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Shinji Mikami is not on the Epstein list.
01:29:40
silkdong
I don't know.
01:29:41
BeyBlade
I'm pretty confident, dude.
01:29:45
BeyBlade
Just George Epstein. What a big gamer he was.
01:29:48
semendemon
but Both Miyazakis are on the Epstein list, Devin.
01:29:51
BeyBlade
Oh, no. no
01:29:52
semendemon
We got both.
01:29:53
silkdong
yeah me the Dude, Miyazaki has his own list. like he's he's
01:29:56
BeyBlade
so
01:29:57
silkdong
He's the Gunnar Epstein of of fucking weird sex.
01:29:59
BeyBlade
Griffin from Berserk is on the Epstein list, dude.
01:30:01
semendemon
Everybody knew that.
01:30:03
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:30:04
semendemon
He loves it there.
01:30:04
BeyBlade
the ah You know what would kill me, though? But it wouldn't be surprised. ah Vegeta.
01:30:09
silkdong
Dude, it's drawing it.
01:30:10
BeyBlade
Vegeta being on the Epstein list.
01:30:10
silkdong
It's drawing it right now
01:30:11
Steve-O
mr
01:30:12
BeyBlade
That would ruin my day. be ah, damn it.
01:30:15
silkdong
now. Not Akira Toriyama?
01:30:16
semendemon
i knew it.
01:30:18
BeyBlade
No, just Vegeta.
01:30:19
Steve-O
I could see Vegeta being on the list.
01:30:21
BeyBlade
Goku would never.
01:30:23
silkdong
So it's draw it's starting to draw it now. And...
01:30:26
BeyBlade
Yes, good.
01:30:26
silkdong
Oh, man. This is actually kind of sick.
01:30:27
BeyBlade
I like it. I like it.
01:30:29
silkdong
But, like, Arthur Morgan's hat isn't even Arthur Morgan's hat. it's just a regular cowboy hat.
01:30:34
BeyBlade
Well, while you wait for that, you know, John, you you said ah I made the joke about the symptoms, but this reminded me of something I saw that really hurt my feelings.
01:30:34
silkdong
can't wait to show this to you guys. What?
01:30:46
semendemon
Ooh.
01:30:46
BeyBlade
ah
01:30:46
silkdong
What?
01:30:47
Steve-O
Oh my god.
01:30:47
BeyBlade
So what Homer and Marge are now officially millennials.
01:30:49
semendemon
Juicy.
01:30:52
silkdong
Oh, man.
01:30:52
semendemon
Ooh.
01:30:53
BeyBlade
And that didn't, that like, that one hurt my stomach when I read that.
01:30:53
semendemon
Okay.
01:30:53
Steve-O
Oh.
01:30:54
semendemon
I'm going take that, Devin.
01:30:57
BeyBlade
I went, oh no.
01:30:58
semendemon
This is it their 25th Treehouse of Horror. That just came out today.
01:31:02
BeyBlade
Something like that, dude.
01:31:03
Steve-O
Oh yeah, they're up there.
01:31:05
semendemon
Tonight came out.
01:31:07
BeyBlade
Yeah, they said ah fucking rock right.
01:31:10
Steve-O
Because they didn't do Treehouse of Horrors the first year. Hmm.
01:31:13
semendemon
I think the first four years they didn't do Treehouse for Horror.
01:31:16
BeyBlade
But I'm just saying like that that floating timeline, right? Where like you see like teenage Homer, young Homer and all that.
01:31:20
semendemon
First three?
01:31:23
BeyBlade
They're just now they're talking about how much they like friends, you know? And it just made me feel gross.
01:31:29
semendemon
Dude. We're all Homer.
01:31:31
BeyBlade
um hey I hate John.
01:31:32
semendemon
We're all gonna be Homer.
01:31:33
BeyBlade
I hate this photo, by the way. I hate
01:31:35
silkdong
Yeah, everything's wrong about it.
01:31:37
BeyBlade
Everything about this is wrong.
01:31:37
silkdong
it They didn't get Arthur Morgan's hat.
01:31:40
semendemon
His head is huge.
01:31:42
BeyBlade
His head's gigantic.
01:31:43
silkdong
They didn't, yeah, they didn't even use the same colors as the for the jacket.
01:31:44
BeyBlade
That jacket's hard.
01:31:47
semendemon
That's a big head, man.
01:31:51
semendemon
You okay with that big head, Leon?
01:31:51
BeyBlade
Yeah, can you do it? Can you say make it more like an anime?
01:31:52
silkdong
I'm not, I am not, I am not tattooing this on my body.
01:31:56
BeyBlade
Do you know want that tattooed on your...
01:31:57
Steve-O
Wait, hold on.
01:31:58
silkdong
No.
01:31:59
Steve-O
That's not David's jacket.
01:32:01
BeyBlade
Yeah, it is.
01:32:01
silkdong
It's not, it's not.
01:32:02
Steve-O
yeah
01:32:02
semendemon
Yeah.
01:32:02
silkdong
Well,
01:32:02
semendemon
Well, no, it's different colored.
01:32:02
BeyBlade
It's kind of like his jacket.
01:32:03
silkdong
It is, but it's not yellow enough. It's like it's just red somewhere.
01:32:05
semendemon
Yeah.
01:32:05
BeyBlade
yeah No, that's what I mean.
01:32:06
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:32:07
BeyBlade
it The colors are all gross.
01:32:08
Steve-O
That's like if David's jacket was like from like Arizona. like That's the red dead version.
01:32:12
BeyBlade
if Yeah,
01:32:17
BeyBlade
it's kind of the worst thing.
01:32:18
silkdong
what When you put it that way, Steve, it's a little it's a little more appealing now.
01:32:20
Steve-O
Yeah, I sold it to you.
01:32:23
Steve-O
And I really do enjoy Indiana Jones hat.
01:32:24
BeyBlade
don't know if we do. yeah I don't know if we do.
01:32:27
silkdong
Yeah, that's not even Arthur's hat.
01:32:28
BeyBlade
yeah What are you talking about, man? That's ah that's John Marsden's hat. Yeah.
01:32:33
silkdong
That's not even John Marston's hat either.
01:32:35
BeyBlade
I know. You fucking dork. The fact that you know that. How dare you?
01:32:40
silkdong
Well, Arthur has like a, he has like a bullwhip on his, on his hat, you know?
01:32:43
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, no. You know what's funny? I will say.
01:32:46
silkdong
And Marston, and Marston has a feather in his. He's got a little feather in his.
01:32:48
BeyBlade
yeah You know, it's it's funny because ah i was I was running.
01:32:51
semendemon
Just an idea here.
01:32:53
BeyBlade
John, real talk. I was actually thinking about like John Marson's hat today playing Ghost of Yote because It's so wild how like the default outfit is just like still the best, like at least a hat.
01:33:08
silkdong
Yeah.
01:33:08
BeyBlade
There's not a hat that's better than Arthur's traditional hat in that game.
01:33:12
silkdong
Yeah.
01:33:13
BeyBlade
And like Ghost of Yota, I have, you know, different outfits and things like that. But like, obviously, one of the option one of the options a giant hat.
01:33:19
silkdong
I'm not getting that tattoo, Chris. The
01:33:22
semendemon
That's sweet.
01:33:22
BeyBlade
And I just can't not wear that hat. It's the only good looking hat in the game.
01:33:27
silkdong
ah the ah the the OG.
01:33:29
BeyBlade
Yeah, the OG, like the Ghost of Yote hat, like the one she has in the marketing.
01:33:31
silkdong
yeah
01:33:33
BeyBlade
I'm like, yeah, no, this is the best hat. i You're stupid if you wear a different hat.
01:33:37
silkdong
did
01:33:37
BeyBlade
And I've been trying.
01:33:39
silkdong
Devin, this is why FromSoft games are fun because all the default looks are the ugliest looks. You know?
01:33:45
BeyBlade
Yeah. No, dude, I don't.
01:33:48
semendemon
that's sweet
01:33:48
BeyBlade
I don't respect.
01:33:49
semendemon
he's sweet guy that bar
01:33:49
BeyBlade
I don't respect fashion fools. I don't get it.
01:33:51
Steve-O
Yeah, pre-I, he looked alright.
01:33:53
semendemon
He's a handsome man.
01:33:54
BeyBlade
Oh, is that Burke? I thought that was James Sunderland from Silent Hill.
01:33:58
Steve-O
no that's really important.
01:33:59
BeyBlade
I was like, wow, he looks good.
01:34:00
semendemon
I think he looked kind of good at one point with the eye, but then, yeah, it just got way worse.
01:34:05
BeyBlade
ah No, like phase one where he has the big mutated arm.
01:34:07
semendemon
Yeah.
01:34:09
BeyBlade
And you're like, that's a cool haircut.
01:34:14
BeyBlade
like
01:34:15
semendemon
That's what I thought.
01:34:17
BeyBlade
Berkey G-Vires.
01:34:17
semendemon
That monster looks pretty good, all things considered.
01:34:20
BeyBlade
you're like Oh, how'd you get that swoop?
01:34:24
semendemon
G-Virus.
01:34:26
BeyBlade
Oh, it's like, okay, where can I buy that?
01:34:28
silkdong
Alright, should we get to the nitty gritty now?
01:34:30
Steve-O
Yeah, let's get to that nitty gritty.
01:34:32
silkdong
The fucking tournament? The DCKO tournament bracket? Because want to hear your opinions.
01:34:36
Steve-O
So.
01:34:37
BeyBlade
Yeah, so I was talking about DCKO last week, and then we were looking at the the bracket.
01:34:38
semendemon
Sorry, clever.
01:34:39
silkdong
and
01:34:41
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:34:46
BeyBlade
ah So there will be a very minor spoiler ah for at least issue one. That's like three months old at this point, or whenever it comes around to the ah the DC app. So this shouldn't be news in terms of like, who's already out.
01:35:04
BeyBlade
Unless you guys wanted to like retroactively put certain characters back in.
01:35:04
silkdong
I'm going to i'm gonna put our i'm gonna put our our our winners in here and I'll post them.
01:35:12
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:35:13
silkdong
i I'm going to insert them.
01:35:13
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:35:16
silkdong
So let's go down. You want to go down the list, Devin?
01:35:19
BeyBlade
ah Yes. Let me pull it up.
01:35:23
Steve-O
Now, DCKO, for those who didn't listen to the previous episode, that is a a current running comic.
01:35:29
BeyBlade
comic I invented and wrote and Chris drew...
01:35:30
Steve-O
No, it's just you? Oh, you shit.
01:35:32
BeyBlade
one ah Sorry. Yeah, no, it's the new DC event written by Scott Snyder.
01:35:38
silkdong
It's Devin's wet dream. This is what Devin dreams about. He dreams about these things.
01:35:42
BeyBlade
You know what?
01:35:44
Steve-O
Written by Big Scott, though, so that's impressive.
01:35:45
BeyBlade
I hate to say it. yeah I hate to say it, but like, truthfully, I wish this was Marvel so I could like have a little bit more of an opinion on the characters. Because like, I'm definitely out of my element a little bit here.
01:35:58
BeyBlade
But I'm curious how that's going to stack up with what you guys think.
01:36:03
silkdong
Okay, so let's let's get through this.
01:36:04
BeyBlade
So this might work out.
01:36:04
silkdong
Ahem.
01:36:05
semendemon
you want You want to hear my my my hot take or my my prediction, at least?
01:36:05
BeyBlade
Okay. Okay. Sure.
01:36:11
semendemon
Joker is wearing the Batsuit, the mech.
01:36:15
BeyBlade
Oh, okay.
01:36:16
semendemon
That's why Batman is on the list.
01:36:16
silkdong
a
01:36:19
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah. Well, or if you read the comic, Joker killed Batman right before they get, or that.
01:36:24
semendemon
Yep.
01:36:26
Steve-O
Oh, is that why there's like a little heart or um not a heart, a little smile?
01:36:29
semendemon
Yeah. Yeah.
01:36:29
BeyBlade
Yeah, because it's like a shocker that Batman's like the first major one to get eliminated. Because it's like at the start of the thing, like...
01:36:38
silkdong
Wait, so does that mean Star size Sapphire gets a buy then that?
01:36:41
BeyBlade
Yeah, I think so.
01:36:41
silkdong
for that
01:36:41
semendemon
goodbye
01:36:42
Steve-O
Wow.
01:36:42
semendemon
No, it's going to be the Joker.
01:36:42
BeyBlade
i Honestly, yes, I think so.
01:36:44
semendemon
It's going to be the Joker in the suit.
01:36:45
BeyBlade
no Okay, so... so
01:36:47
silkdong
Alright, let's go down the list. Yeah,
01:36:48
BeyBlade
Well, should I explain the context a little bit more? should be
01:36:51
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:36:52
silkdong
yeah, sure, sure, sure.
01:36:53
BeyBlade
The context is is they're like, okay, the first thing that happens is like literally a Fall Guys map. It's like get to the portal. If you don't get to the portal, you're cut off. you You're automatically out.
01:37:05
silkdong
It's Hunger Games.
01:37:05
semendemon
Yeah.
01:37:05
BeyBlade
Right before...
01:37:06
silkdong
they have to They have to get to the cornucopia thing in the Hunger Games.
01:37:06
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah, right before the tournament started, they literally locked up all of the villains because they're like, we don't want them to even know about this nor be a part of it.
01:37:16
semendemon
Mr. Terrific locked up all the noise.
01:37:18
BeyBlade
And then at the very end, Batman's like screaming at Clark to get his head in the game because Clark's just trying to help people. and they're like, no, dude, we need a winner.
01:37:26
silkdong
Dude, we need you to fight.
01:37:26
BeyBlade
like get across So while he's yelling at Superman, he gets shot through the chest. And then you see...
01:37:32
silkdong
It's like, LeBron, stop passing the ball, bro.
01:37:35
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:37:35
silkdong
We need you to dunk it sometimes, okay?
01:37:36
BeyBlade
And then you see, and then you see like ah the bang, you know, that comes out of that the spear that shot him in the chest or whatever it was. And then you realize all the villains did get involved somehow. Even though they're not on this bracket really.
01:37:50
BeyBlade
Oh no, they kind of, but no, they are.
01:37:51
silkdong
Yeah, they are. they They got villains on here.
01:37:52
BeyBlade
No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. So ah everybody, as far as I know is powered, like nobody's D powered as far as I can tell
01:38:00
silkdong
Unless you're a bitch-ass human like Batman who ah who's already dead.
01:38:00
BeyBlade
or
01:38:04
silkdong
So it doesn't matter.
01:38:04
BeyBlade
Yeah, like he was in his mech suit and he died. And they're like, I guess we'll solve it later. Because this is a ah current event book. So Batman immediately dies.
01:38:15
silkdong
so let's go down to the left bracket first.
01:38:18
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:38:19
silkdong
Okay? Superman versus Giganta. I think this's this is ah a gimme, right?
01:38:24
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:38:24
silkdong
Superman just...
01:38:24
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:38:25
BeyBlade
Might as well be a buy.
01:38:25
silkdong
Superman wins.
01:38:26
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:38:26
semendemon
Yeah, that's buy.
01:38:27
silkdong
Right. Alright, next is Captain um captain Adam versus...
01:38:30
semendemon
Oh, we didn't we didn't describe what Superman's loadout is as well. ah Superman is wearing ah yellow sun knuckles, brass knuckles on in his hands.
01:38:43
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:38:44
semendemon
Basically miniaturized yellow suns that he's wrapped around his knuckles.
01:38:48
silkdong
Oh, so he's...
01:38:50
semendemon
Yeah.
01:38:50
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:38:50
silkdong
So he's already, yeah, he's already got fucking his moon veil. He's ready to rock already.
01:38:57
BeyBlade
Yes.
01:38:57
silkdong
Alright, so Captain Atom versus Power Girl. I say Power Girl. I don't know about you guys.
01:39:02
Steve-O
i would say Power Girl too.
01:39:02
BeyBlade
I mean, would... It's fun to see in both fights.
01:39:05
silkdong
Captain Atom's a bitch, dude. he's He's a bitch, though. Captain Atom's such a bitch, dude.
01:39:08
BeyBlade
i yeah I really like that fight, though, that him and Captain Superman had.
01:39:10
semendemon
I think he's going to get punctured. Like his suit's going to get punctured.
01:39:13
silkdong
Yeah, and he's gonna blow up and Power Girl's gonna snort his fucking nuclear energy that comes out of his atomic energy, excuse me, that comes out of his body and then it's over.
01:39:14
semendemon
It's going.
01:39:19
BeyBlade
i i yeah I just liked it when Captain Adam and Superman fought that one time. and was really youw I just think it's an neat, guys.
01:39:28
silkdong
Well, Superman was clearly holding back.
01:39:30
BeyBlade
It was neat, guys!
01:39:30
semendemon
Evan, Evan, he's just goo in a suit, man.
01:39:34
Steve-O
I think it leads to the more interesting fight of Superman versus Power Girl.
01:39:38
semendemon
yeah
01:39:38
BeyBlade
first Versus the one he can kiss. The one cousin he's allowed to.
01:39:42
semendemon
Why is he allowed to?
01:39:43
BeyBlade
It doesn't count. because She's like an alternate Earth one.
01:39:47
semendemon
Okay. Alright.
01:39:48
BeyBlade
You can't pollute no yeah know gene pool that way.
01:39:51
silkdong
right. so so we're we're going with Power Girl.
01:39:53
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:39:53
Steve-O
I agree. Yeah.
01:39:55
silkdong
Okay. Okay. Alright, we got Guy Gardner.
01:39:58
semendemon
Guy Gardner Firestorm.
01:40:00
silkdong
i think Honestly, I think it's fire Firestorm, to be honest.
01:40:01
BeyBlade
Man. The thing is is, I know they were gassing Firestorm up like a decade ago when we stopped reading DC Comics. um I don't know where he stands now, though.
01:40:12
BeyBlade
I don't know if Guy Gardner is like a clear winner.
01:40:13
semendemon
I'm going to be real with you. i think Guy Gardner's got the killer instinct here.
01:40:16
BeyBlade
Yes. Yes.
01:40:17
silkdong
Yeah, okay, so yeah okay so he's he's not as nice as Firestorm.
01:40:17
BeyBlade
I agree.
01:40:20
BeyBlade
He'll want it more because questioning his skin, his chin.
01:40:22
Steve-O
here's Here's the thing, though.
01:40:22
silkdong
Okay, okay.
01:40:23
Steve-O
I've seen Guy Gardner get one-punched by just like Batman.
01:40:26
silkdong
Yeah, by bitch-ass human.
01:40:26
semendemon
No, I...
01:40:28
silkdong
ah ask you
01:40:30
BeyBlade
That's what you're you saying.
01:40:31
semendemon
yeah I don't deny that he's got a glass jaw, but I think he's going to come in like, I'm going to kill this motherfucker.
01:40:32
BeyBlade
I don't know.
01:40:35
silkdong
Okay. I see that. i see that because
01:40:38
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:40:38
silkdong
On paper, I say Firestorm in a walk, but i but since it's Guy... Yeah, I can see.
01:40:45
semendemon
He's going to beat him up and stab him.
01:40:45
silkdong
i mean and He's also the only GL on this list, right?
01:40:46
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:40:48
Steve-O
It's either... Oh, is he really the only GL...
01:40:51
silkdong
Yeah. Yeah.
01:40:52
Steve-O
If he's the only GL, he's probably gonna, yeah.
01:40:54
semendemon
He's going to that bump. He's going
01:40:57
silkdong
That, yeah, yeah, no, not not only that, yeah, he's, you know, he's feeling himself already, yeah.
01:41:01
Steve-O
He was just in a movie this year, like...
01:41:03
semendemon
get the GL bump.
01:41:04
silkdong
Yeah, okay, let's give it to Guy, we'll give it to Guy.
01:41:05
BeyBlade
ah Okay, yeah.
01:41:09
silkdong
i think any Flash beats Cheetah, Jay Garrick or not, so...
01:41:11
semendemon
Yeah.
01:41:13
BeyBlade
ah Dude, I don't know. Now, you know, this is why not. Because um'm i'm doing the NFL's fixed thinking here, right?
01:41:17
silkdong
Why? Because he wears a bowl?
01:41:21
semendemon
She's the psycho.
01:41:22
BeyBlade
Giganta's off the list already. You know, so a villain has to win at this stage. And it's definitely, this is the most fair matchup that I can see.
01:41:33
silkdong
Dude, how is this fair? He's Jake Eric.
01:41:35
BeyBlade
Because Chita goes one-on-one with Wonder Woman on the regular.
01:41:37
silkdong
Jake Eric has the speed force. Jake Eric has the speed force.
01:41:40
semendemon
Yeah, but like Lex Luthor...
01:41:40
BeyBlade
Yeah, he's the Speed Force.
01:41:40
silkdong
You auto win.
01:41:41
semendemon
Hold on, hold on.
01:41:42
BeyBlade
No, no, no, no, no.
01:41:43
semendemon
Lex Luthor's gonna win this.
01:41:43
BeyBlade
He's never fouled. His fucking knees, his ACLs are blown. His ACLs are shot, dude. He's Garby. He's a 75-year-old man trying to live in a modern world.
01:41:54
Steve-O
Wait, hold on. Is there another flash on this list?
01:41:55
BeyBlade
It's not going to happen.
01:41:57
silkdong
No. So he's got the whole speed force family to probably.
01:41:59
BeyBlade
It's not him, dude.
01:41:59
Steve-O
Dude, that's going the flash bump.
01:42:00
BeyBlade
Dude, his...
01:42:01
Steve-O
That's going flash bump.
01:42:01
silkdong
He might win it all. He might win it all.
01:42:03
BeyBlade
She's going to stretch his fucking Achilles heels out, dude.
01:42:06
silkdong
I think Jay Garrick wins this, but i don't' I'm not going to say that he wins his next fight. I think just, you know, I don't know. I don't care what the politics are with the writing and stuff. I just think Jay Garrick versus Cheetah, Jay Garrick wins.
01:42:17
semendemon
Yeah, I totally agree.
01:42:18
BeyBlade
You're a homer, man. You're a homer.
01:42:20
silkdong
How am I Homer?
01:42:20
BeyBlade
No way.
01:42:21
silkdong
Cheetah's weak as hell, dude.
01:42:21
semendemon
easy I'm an easy comer in this regard.
01:42:22
BeyBlade
Duke, she doesn't know we can help.
01:42:25
silkdong
She's soft.
01:42:26
BeyBlade
so I don't know why.
01:42:27
semendemon
You got no horses, mate.
01:42:27
BeyBlade
I don't like that.
01:42:28
silkdong
Yeah, why? Yeah, why?
01:42:28
semendemon
Yeah, easily. Jake Eric.
01:42:31
BeyBlade
Alright.
01:42:34
silkdong
There's a villain coming up that I think is going to win.
01:42:34
BeyBlade
Alright.
01:42:37
silkdong
So.
01:42:37
semendemon
yeah easily
01:42:37
BeyBlade
Alright.
01:42:38
silkdong
All right.
01:42:39
BeyBlade
Well, okay. Okay.
01:42:40
silkdong
And it's King short. So so what is so what do we what do we say? Jay Garrick or Cheetah? I say Jay Garrick. What do you guys say?
01:42:45
semendemon
jake eric
01:42:46
BeyBlade
personally.
01:42:47
Steve-O
to say Jay Garrett.
01:42:49
silkdong
All right.
01:42:49
BeyBlade
Chris?
01:42:49
silkdong
So Jay Garrick wins.
01:42:50
BeyBlade
Fucking garbage.
01:42:51
semendemon
Democracy.
01:42:53
BeyBlade
Okay. ah You know what?
01:42:54
silkdong
All right.
01:42:54
BeyBlade
I'm willing to take... I'm legitimately willing to throw in $5 this. on this
01:43:00
Steve-O
On this one, take care of Conchita.
01:43:00
silkdong
ah Okay. all All right. All right. right.
01:43:02
semendemon
yeah
01:43:02
silkdong
Okay. Throw it in.
01:43:03
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:43:04
silkdong
Toss it in.
01:43:04
BeyBlade
Yeah. um I'll fucking legit. I will Venmo. So, will Venmo.
01:43:07
silkdong
Alright, alright. Well, you got your Venmo class action lawsuit, buddies.
01:43:11
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah, I got it.
01:43:11
silkdong
We don't. So...
01:43:13
BeyBlade
Play with house money, dude.
01:43:13
semendemon
I got it too, by the way.
01:43:14
silkdong
i didn't get oh I didn't check since then.
01:43:15
Steve-O
I didn't get it. I didn't get it.
01:43:16
BeyBlade
Dude, dude, dude.
01:43:18
semendemon
it was It was a doozy.
01:43:20
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:43:21
silkdong
Aquaman versus King Shark I think is a little unfair because Aquaman could just go...
01:43:23
BeyBlade
This is insane. Yeah.
01:43:25
silkdong
He could just telepathically tell King Shark to go jack off in the corner like Ed Gein.
01:43:29
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:43:29
semendemon
Yeah.
01:43:29
silkdong
And he would.
01:43:30
semendemon
It'll be awesome, too.
01:43:30
BeyBlade
I mean, isn't the whole thing, though, in the in the newish lore that he's like a he's like an avatar for a shark god or something?
01:43:36
silkdong
I mean, either either way, I think Aquaman just kills
01:43:38
BeyBlade
You're right.
01:43:39
Steve-O
um
01:43:39
BeyBlade
Either way.
01:43:40
Steve-O
I'm very excited because I feel like this is going to be like a comedy bit. King Sharks is going be like, why am I going against Aquaman? That doesn't seem fair. you
01:43:47
BeyBlade
We got to find the water.
01:43:48
silkdong
I'm putting Aquaman on.
01:43:50
Steve-O
I'm Aquaman, yeah.
01:43:50
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:43:51
semendemon
Taco man.
01:43:53
silkdong
Connor Hawk versus Hawkman.
01:43:53
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:43:54
silkdong
i don't think Connor Hawk stands a chance.
01:43:54
BeyBlade
Oh, oh. Yeah, this is Coffee Baby nuclear bomb, dude.
01:43:56
Steve-O
Nah, Hawkman. Yeah.
01:43:59
silkdong
Yeah, yeah, this really is.
01:44:00
BeyBlade
If there was a jobber on the list.
01:44:01
silkdong
Yeah.
01:44:01
semendemon
Yeah,
01:44:02
silkdong
So why are they fighting each other because their fucking names have Hawk in them? Is that why?
01:44:06
semendemon
dude.
01:44:06
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:44:07
Steve-O
I think so.
01:44:07
silkdong
That's kind of weak.
01:44:07
semendemon
That's fucking dark side.
01:44:09
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:44:09
semendemon
Pure dark side energy. Yeah, Hawk for Zock, dog.
01:44:12
BeyBlade
Yeah. All right.
01:44:14
silkdong
Okay, next one. Lex versus Black Lightning. I say lex Lex in a walk.
01:44:19
BeyBlade
Yeah?
01:44:19
semendemon
Lex.
01:44:20
BeyBlade
Why is that?
01:44:21
silkdong
1A, 1A, 1A. Right on him.
01:44:23
BeyBlade
that Okay.
01:44:23
semendemon
yeah
01:44:24
BeyBlade
yeah
01:44:24
silkdong
He knows.
01:44:25
Steve-O
rig the whole tournament.
01:44:27
BeyBlade
Sure. No, no.
01:44:28
semendemon
1A.
01:44:28
BeyBlade
I think.
01:44:28
silkdong
He might win it all.
01:44:29
semendemon
Yeah. I think he's the reason why the villains broke out.
01:44:30
BeyBlade
I think, yeah.
01:44:34
BeyBlade
i don't Yeah.
01:44:34
silkdong
ah
01:44:35
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:44:35
semendemon
Because remember, he was like, I knew this was going to happen.
01:44:38
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:44:39
semendemon
The orb would slide to him.
01:44:40
BeyBlade
He's like, God damn it.
01:44:42
semendemon
I fucking called it!
01:44:42
silkdong
ah Wait, so is this is this DC continuity? This is DC continuity, right?
01:44:46
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah. This is.
01:44:48
silkdong
Alright, then Supergirl beats Demon then. Because if it's if it's a Woman of Tomorrow, Supergirl, she might win the whole thing.
01:44:50
Steve-O
yeah
01:44:53
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:44:54
semendemon
But magic, John.
01:44:55
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:44:55
silkdong
I'm just saying. It doesn't matter, dude. Dude, they tried that shit on her in Woman of Tomorrow. They got rocked.
01:45:01
semendemon
Yeah, they did. Yeah. She ate their lunch.
01:45:03
silkdong
It didn't matter. She's got heart now. She's not just stupid girl Clark anymore.
01:45:07
BeyBlade
Oh
01:45:07
Steve-O
Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing, okay? Because the next bracket would be Lex Luthor versus a Supergirl, and I think Lex Luthor is going to kill Supergirl, and it's really going to...
01:45:15
silkdong
All right, I mean, we'll get there.
01:45:16
Steve-O
I think it's really going to boil Superman...
01:45:18
semendemon
Oh, and they you know they're going to the Crisis on Infinite Earths cover.
01:45:18
silkdong
Yeah, we'll get there, Chris.
01:45:22
silkdong
Oh, man.
01:45:23
Steve-O
a
01:45:23
BeyBlade
oh my god!
01:45:24
semendemon
da da
01:45:26
BeyBlade
e
01:45:26
semendemon
ah
01:45:27
silkdong
All right, so now we go now we go right write bracket.
01:45:28
BeyBlade
I like how you guys were mocking me for even reading this a week ago, by the way.
01:45:31
silkdong
All right, so...
01:45:33
Steve-O
Well, now that I know it's on a DC Infinite.
01:45:37
BeyBlade
Fuck you!
01:45:37
Steve-O
yeah
01:45:38
semendemon
I saw it there and I would basically did like the Bilbo Baggins room.
01:45:38
silkdong
right, so...
01:45:39
Steve-O
but
01:45:42
semendemon
i'm Like, why not?
01:45:43
Steve-O
ah
01:45:44
BeyBlade
yeah
01:45:45
semendemon
It's right there.
01:45:45
silkdong
Alright, so on the right side bracket, the American League, we got Wonder Woman versus Starro.
01:45:52
BeyBlade
Cooked.
01:45:52
silkdong
It's Wonder Woman.
01:45:52
BeyBlade
Stars cooked. Dude, yeah.
01:45:54
silkdong
Yeah, it's not even it's not even going to last three seconds, Starro.
01:45:57
Steve-O
That's interesting. Starro?
01:46:01
silkdong
Dude.
01:46:01
BeyBlade
Dude, somebody's got to lose, you know?
01:46:02
silkdong
This is Princess Diana of Themyscira.
01:46:07
BeyBlade
yeah
01:46:07
silkdong
I don't think...
01:46:08
BeyBlade
Not of hell. All right.
01:46:09
silkdong
Lobo versus Plastic Man. i I think it's Plastic Man.
01:46:12
BeyBlade
I'm telling you right now. The people who read this issue, the people read this issue were like Plastic Man's unhinged.
01:46:15
silkdong
I think it's Plastic Man, dog.
01:46:18
silkdong
Yeah, Plastic Man's OP.
01:46:18
BeyBlade
He's ready to murder me.
01:46:19
silkdong
And he's OP.
01:46:20
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:46:20
silkdong
He's OP, too. Like, he's actually got OP card.
01:46:21
semendemon
And he's got like the Cobra Kai look right now.
01:46:21
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:46:24
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:46:25
silkdong
ah Yeah, he's got, like...
01:46:26
semendemon
all about...
01:46:27
silkdong
He's got a bandana. Yeah, I think I might have to give it to Plastic Man, dog.
01:46:29
BeyBlade
I'm telling i on you right now, it's like you're going to think Lobo, even Lobo's going to think this going to be a walk, and then he's going to get fucking starched.
01:46:31
silkdong
All
01:46:31
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:46:37
silkdong
right. Are we are in agreement, Plastic Man?
01:46:39
BeyBlade
Yeah, a plastic man.
01:46:40
semendemon
Oh,
01:46:40
Steve-O
yeah
01:46:41
silkdong
he's got He's got... Chris, he's got aura. This plastic man has aura. Alright. Alright, Swamp Thing versus Vixen. I think I gotta give it to Vixen, to be honest.
01:46:51
BeyBlade
Really? Really?
01:46:53
semendemon
wow.
01:46:53
BeyBlade
Really?
01:46:54
semendemon
i'm going I'm going hard in a Swamp Thing.
01:46:56
BeyBlade
Yeah, how, what's, where's Vixen's road to victory?
01:47:01
silkdong
Uh, isn't Swamp Thing just a bunch of fucking dirt worms that took the persona of Swamp Thing?
01:47:04
BeyBlade
Oh my god, oh my yeah oh my god.
01:47:04
semendemon
Nope.
01:47:07
semendemon
He is a god of the green, sir.
01:47:07
silkdong
I'm just saying...
01:47:09
BeyBlade
you Dude, are you kidding me?
01:47:12
semendemon
ah god.
01:47:12
BeyBlade
thought you read comic books.
01:47:15
semendemon
is this a god. I can't not say it's going to be swamping.
01:47:18
BeyBlade
Yeah, he's the avatar of the green, dude. Vixen's somebody who can run kind of fast sometimes, depending on the animal.
01:47:23
Steve-O
But hold on Doesn't Vixen have the ability to tap into the red so it's the green versus the red?
01:47:30
semendemon
Yes.
01:47:31
semendemon
Oh, one million percent.
01:47:31
silkdong
Yeah.
01:47:32
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, and guess what?
01:47:32
silkdong
Oh, that's like, so so it's a good fight.
01:47:35
semendemon
I think it's swamping, though.
01:47:36
BeyBlade
I'm not going to say it's not a good good fight, but i don't I'd be... i'd be blu I'd write a letter to my congressman.
01:47:42
semendemon
I would be shocked.
01:47:43
silkdong
we talking about Are we talking about... New 52 Angel Swamp Thing with the wings?
Hypothetical Battles - DC Characters
01:47:48
silkdong
Because that... Yeah, maybe that...
01:47:49
BeyBlade
ah Sadly, no.
01:47:50
silkdong
Okay.
01:47:50
BeyBlade
I don't think we are, actually.
01:47:51
semendemon
I think he's still an avatar of the green regardless. Like that was established before that, wasn't
01:47:54
BeyBlade
Yeah. All
01:47:56
Steve-O
um You know what? I'm going to say Swamp Thing, but I think this is going to be a good fight.
01:47:59
silkdong
Okay.
01:48:01
BeyBlade
right.
01:48:01
silkdong
Alright, we'll give it to Swamp Thing.
01:48:02
Steve-O
I can honestly i could honestly see both.
01:48:06
silkdong
Cyborg versus bitch-ass human Batwoman. I give it to Cyborg.
01:48:10
Steve-O
Cyborg.
01:48:10
semendemon
Cyborg.
01:48:10
Steve-O
Cyborg.
01:48:11
BeyBlade
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:48:14
Steve-O
Dude, because then the next fight's fucking Nature versus fucking Robot Man.
01:48:14
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:48:18
BeyBlade
No, no, fair.
01:48:18
silkdong
Yeah, that's actually sick.
01:48:19
BeyBlade
Fair. Yeah, I agree.
01:48:20
silkdong
captain
01:48:22
BeyBlade
So Starfire gets the buy.
01:48:22
silkdong
It's Cyborg, right?
01:48:23
BeyBlade
Yeah, and it's Cyborg.
01:48:25
silkdong
Star Sapphire gets the bye versus Batman.
01:48:25
semendemon
I that your
01:48:27
BeyBlade
Gets the buy.
01:48:27
Steve-O
Oh,
01:48:30
BeyBlade
Wait,
01:48:30
silkdong
That sucks.
01:48:30
semendemon
i think that's the Joker. That's my $5 prediction.
01:48:34
Steve-O
oh fuck.
01:48:35
silkdong
Oh, that... that
01:48:36
BeyBlade
wait.
01:48:36
silkdong
and
01:48:36
BeyBlade
Oh, Star Sapphire?
01:48:37
Steve-O
No, John, I think you're right.
01:48:38
semendemon
No. Batman.
01:48:39
Steve-O
I do think you're right. So I think it's going to be Batman does take that fight. And I think Chris is right. That is going to be Joker. And then, because I'm looking at the next matchup, it's going to be the Joker versus fucking, oh, fuck.
01:48:45
semendemon
It's going to be true.
01:48:48
silkdong
Yeah, okay, so it's a Batman.
01:48:49
BeyBlade
Oh, no.
01:48:50
silkdong
Yeah.
01:48:50
BeyBlade
Okay, okay, okay, wait, wait.
01:48:52
silkdong
All right,
01:48:52
BeyBlade
So you're saying, Sar Sapphire's like, I have the buy. And then, no, a new challenger arrives.
01:48:56
semendemon
And it's...
01:48:57
silkdong
I just...
01:48:57
BeyBlade
It's secret fight boss Joker.
01:49:00
semendemon
Yeah, dude.
01:49:01
BeyBlade
And then it's Street Fighter 2 Akuma. So she he's just completely overpowered her and he wipes her out.
01:49:06
semendemon
He probably still has, like, the harpoon in his chest, too, so it looks actually weird.
01:49:10
BeyBlade
God, hate how into this I am, even though these are, like, very obvious.
01:49:13
silkdong
Dude, i don't see i don't see ja I don't see Jason Todd beating Damian Wayne either, though.
01:49:18
semendemon
No!
01:49:18
silkdong
That's the thing.
01:49:19
BeyBlade
Okay, you're right.
01:49:19
Steve-O
No.
01:49:20
semendemon
no
01:49:22
BeyBlade
But then again, if it's Joker versus Red Hood in the next round.
01:49:27
silkdong
It doesn't matter. it's it's also It could be Joker versus Damian Wayne.
01:49:30
semendemon
I think that has a better impact, a better drama, because that's his father who he murdered.
01:49:32
silkdong
Yeah.
01:49:33
BeyBlade
Yeah, and you know what?
01:49:34
Steve-O
It's both good drama.
01:49:34
BeyBlade
Listen, listen. somebody somebody in the bad family yeah but Somebody in the Bat family has to go deep.
01:49:36
semendemon
I know, but it's his father, Steve!...............
01:49:38
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:49:42
BeyBlade
And right now, because no one's going deep except for...
01:49:44
silkdong
Well, listen, though. Listen. We're not talking about the future.
01:49:46
BeyBlade
So who wins?
01:49:48
silkdong
We're talking about Red Hood versus Damian Wayne.
01:49:49
Steve-O
In this matchup, Damian Wayne would beat Red Hood.
01:49:50
silkdong
In this matchup, Damian...
01:49:50
BeyBlade
I know.
01:49:52
silkdong
Yeah, Damian... Yeah, he would watch he would wash Red Hood, dude.
01:49:56
Steve-O
Bro got real into guns, didn't stick to his kung fu.
01:49:56
BeyBlade
Watch. Okay.
01:49:59
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:49:59
silkdong
Yeah, and Damian Wayne was trained by the fucking League of Assassins, dude.
01:50:02
semendemon
To be a killer.
01:50:04
BeyBlade
Oh, can I, can I tell you a fun little factoid I read about Damien Wayne recently?
01:50:06
silkdong
Yeah. He's got psycho genes. Red Hood doesn't have bat Bruce Wayne and Raj Al Ghul genes.
01:50:12
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:50:12
semendemon
Nope.
01:50:13
BeyBlade
So, so a fun factoid, I was reading like a, a, another bad comic. We don't have to get into it. But Damien Wayne is apparently a very large Black Canary musical fan.
01:50:26
BeyBlade
Like, he was, he's like, he's hanging out with ah ah John Kent, like Superman's kid and some other girl.
01:50:28
silkdong
That's cool.
01:50:30
silkdong
That checks out.
01:50:35
BeyBlade
And he's like, oh, this concert's so lame.
01:50:37
silkdong
Was it Cassie?
01:50:37
BeyBlade
And like Black, ah yeah, yeah, it's Cassie.
01:50:38
silkdong
Was he blonde? Was it Wonder Girl?
01:50:40
BeyBlade
And she was playing a show and he's like ah huge super stan now.
01:50:41
silkdong
happen
01:50:45
BeyBlade
And it's ah it almost read like a gay awakening. And I'm not like even saying that as a joke. The way it's it's written, I'm like, yeah, no.
01:50:51
silkdong
Okay. Or maybe he's he's in the musicals. don't to be gay to be in the musicals.
01:50:56
BeyBlade
i mean like
01:50:57
silkdong
You know?
01:50:57
BeyBlade
No, no, you don't. But he's like it's like basically a ah young girl seeing Taylor Swift for the first time. like He freaked out. He's like, I love this. This is exactly what I like about it.
01:51:06
silkdong
Well, good for him.
01:51:06
semendemon
Yeah,
01:51:08
BeyBlade
So anyway, factoid.
01:51:08
silkdong
that's how i am with That's how I am with Sabrina Carpenter.
01:51:11
BeyBlade
Because, yeah, because what's interesting, I'll be honest, what's interesting to me is that I'm checking in with these characters like legitimately eight to ten years removed from where I last read them.
01:51:11
silkdong
so
01:51:19
silkdong
set Every now and then. Yeah. All
01:51:24
BeyBlade
So everybody's just a little bit different. And to me, that's actually been a lot of fun.
01:51:29
silkdong
right. Zatanna waxes Big Barda, I think.
01:51:32
semendemon
it's over.
01:51:33
Steve-O
A-drab pots.
01:51:35
silkdong
Yeah, it's over.
01:51:35
semendemon
And grab pots, babe.
01:51:37
silkdong
Adrian Potts.
01:51:38
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:51:38
silkdong
Zatanna might just win the whole thing.
01:51:39
BeyBlade
All right.
01:51:39
semendemon
then it's going to eat her brain.
01:51:39
BeyBlade
I don't know enough. I mean, Varda anything other than just like big, big?
01:51:43
Steve-O
She big.
01:51:45
BeyBlade
Yeah. It's like, it kind of seems like she doesn't have a shot, even though she's like a new guy.
01:51:50
silkdong
Quinn harleyquin versus Metamorpho.
01:51:53
BeyBlade
It should be metamorpho.
01:51:54
semendemon
It should be Metamorpho.
01:51:55
BeyBlade
I just don't.
01:51:56
semendemon
It's going to be Harley Quinn.
01:51:57
silkdong
But it's going to be Harley.
01:51:57
Steve-O
Harley Quinn has the the popularity bump.
01:51:59
BeyBlade
Yeah. Oh, and then we're going to have the goon off Harley Quinn's on it. Yeah. All right.
01:52:04
semendemon
I bet you
01:52:04
silkdong
Okay. All right, round two.
01:52:05
semendemon
She has to fight Batman.
01:52:07
BeyBlade
All right, let's round two. Let's round two.
01:52:08
Steve-O
Oh, dude, because it's fucking Joker versus Harley.
01:52:09
silkdong
all right.
01:52:11
semendemon
Yeah, dude.
01:52:11
Steve-O
That'd be fucking fucking dude.
01:52:12
silkdong
All right so we got Superman versus Power Girl.
01:52:14
semendemon
Yeah, dude.
01:52:16
silkdong
It's Superman.
01:52:17
BeyBlade
Superman. Superman.
01:52:18
Steve-O
Superman.
01:52:18
semendemon
Superman over Power Girl.
01:52:18
silkdong
I'm going
01:52:19
BeyBlade
And I will say, I think this is going to be the one where they they really say, dude, you don't have it. You don't have the killer instinct, dude.
01:52:26
semendemon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he rips her in part and drinks her blood from her spine.
01:52:27
BeyBlade
Like, Power Girl shouldn't have even gotten that close. And they're like, yeah. Because the whole thing is like Clark, like,
01:52:33
silkdong
to walk. This is Injustice, Clark?
01:52:35
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:52:36
silkdong
Oh, yeah.
01:52:36
BeyBlade
in the big In the very beginning of the book, they're like playing a board game and like it's established very firmly that like Clark hates playing games where like there has to be a loser.
01:52:48
BeyBlade
And they're like, dude, like you got to fucking you got have a little bit.
01:52:50
silkdong
He's Simon's cat. He's Simon's cat.
01:52:52
BeyBlade
Yeah. You got to have a little bit of a killer instinct.
01:52:52
silkdong
All
01:52:52
semendemon
Oh, yeah. Wonder Woman was like, she's going win, too, right? She was like, please go in.
01:52:56
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, they're like, Clark, like, come on, just somebody has to win.
01:53:00
silkdong
right. Guy Gardner versus Jay Garrick.
01:53:05
BeyBlade
Cheetah.
01:53:06
Steve-O
think I think out of those two, Guy Gardner would win.
01:53:06
BeyBlade
I think it's going to be Cheetah. But between those two, Guy Gardner.
01:53:10
silkdong
Yeah, it's Kai.
01:53:10
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:53:11
semendemon
Guy Gardner.
01:53:11
BeyBlade
Because even if even if, again, assuming Jay Garrick gets by Cheetah, I think he's going to be compromised. I don't think he's getting out of that one clean.
01:53:21
semendemon
He's going to get cheetah flu.
01:53:22
silkdong
This one's actually interesting. The next one, Aquaman versus Hawkman.
01:53:28
BeyBlade
Yeah, but you know what? That's going to be like a bird. It's going like an eagle taking a talon.
01:53:31
semendemon
Fighting a fish.
01:53:34
BeyBlade
Digging its talons into a fish out of the ocean, dude.
01:53:36
silkdong
Yeah, but Aquaman's like, he's, Aquaman's got aura though.
01:53:37
BeyBlade
Hawkman. Hawkman has... Hawkman doesn't?
01:53:42
silkdong
I mean, Hawkman also has aura, but, like, Aquaman's fucking king, dude.
01:53:44
BeyBlade
Dude. That's cute.
01:53:46
silkdong
It's King Arthur.
01:53:46
BeyBlade
Hawkman is a brutal... He's a he's a warrior. Aquaman's a king.
01:53:51
semendemon
can is there a possibility Is there a possibility where they both die?
01:53:51
silkdong
what do you guys say, Steve and Chris?
01:53:56
BeyBlade
i mean, I'm not rating it.
01:53:56
silkdong
No. There has to be a winner.
01:53:59
Steve-O
um andnna I'm going to give the edge to Hawk, man.
01:53:59
semendemon
There has to be.
01:53:59
BeyBlade
Yeah, let's assume...
01:54:01
Steve-O
I think, i think yeah, he is ah he is a pure blood warrior, just like...
01:54:05
BeyBlade
Yeah, if we're talking about fighting, dude.
01:54:07
silkdong
So is Arthur Curry, though!
01:54:09
semendemon
I gotta go with Arthur. He's a better warrior.
01:54:11
silkdong
yeah
01:54:12
BeyBlade
Okay, what do we do?
01:54:13
semendemon
He's ah like a warrior king.
01:54:14
BeyBlade
Do we have a digital flip or is somebody...
01:54:16
silkdong
ah Now we ask ChatGPT.
01:54:17
BeyBlade
Gosh,
01:54:19
semendemon
a
01:54:20
BeyBlade
yeah. You know what's going to...
01:54:20
silkdong
Sorry.
01:54:21
BeyBlade
Whatever you should... Whatever you type in, just say, i need a definitive winner.
01:54:26
silkdong
Who wins?
01:54:26
BeyBlade
Because it might just be like, one's going to win in the air.
01:54:28
silkdong
Aquaman or Hawkman?
01:54:30
BeyBlade
Yeah, all right. I hate that this is the new point.
01:54:32
silkdong
And give an actual answer.
01:54:35
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:54:37
silkdong
Pick one.
01:54:37
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:54:38
silkdong
That's what I'm saying.
01:54:39
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:54:41
silkdong
Aquaman wins. Here's why. Power scope Aquaman commands the entire ocean summon control sea life, blah, blah, blah.
01:54:47
BeyBlade
Oh,
01:54:48
silkdong
Physicality both are strong and durable, but Aquaman's Atlantean physiology lets him tank deep ocean pressure bullets and blows from Superman to your foes. Keep that in mind for later guys.
01:54:59
semendemon
Definitely.
01:54:59
BeyBlade
look at that.
01:54:59
silkdong
Hawkman's and the metal armor makes him tough, but Aquaman has matched and even overpowered metahumans beyond a Hawkman's bracket mobility.
01:55:07
semendemon
definitely
01:55:07
silkdong
Hawkman's flight gives him aerial dominance, but Aquaman's speed underwater. and reflexes on land, even the field, he's not a slow tank. Weapon matchup. Trident of Poseidon is magical, indestructible, and channels elemental control. Hawkman's mace is powerful, but it doesn't outclass the trident in versatility or reach.
01:55:26
silkdong
ChatGPT says Aquaman wins 7 out of 10 times.
01:55:29
Steve-O
I gotta give it to Aquaman.
01:55:29
BeyBlade
All right.
01:55:30
silkdong
Sorry, guys.
01:55:30
BeyBlade
You know, if this is the rule that we're abiding by, i guess I have to accept
01:55:31
silkdong
Yeah.
01:55:31
Steve-O
No, you're right. You're right.
01:55:36
silkdong
Alright. Lex versus Supergirl.
01:55:39
BeyBlade
Lex.
01:55:39
semendemon
Lex.
01:55:40
Steve-O
Lex.
01:55:43
silkdong
Okay.
01:55:44
semendemon
hey John?
01:55:45
BeyBlade
yeah Sorry. Sorry. Yeah.
01:55:46
silkdong
I mean, mean,
01:55:46
BeyBlade
Yeah. john
01:55:47
semendemon
And you can't change it.
01:55:50
silkdong
I know, I know you guys all said Lex. I'm just saying, though, this is a different Supergirl. We've rewritten her origin story.
01:55:59
semendemon
I know, but they got set up that cover.
01:56:02
silkdong
All right, all right, all right, all right.
01:56:03
Steve-O
but Yeah, we're all in disagreement.
01:56:04
BeyBlade
get the minute yeah
01:56:04
Steve-O
Like, that image.
01:56:04
silkdong
You guys are just like Lex, Lex, Lex. All right, I'll take, it's fine. a Wonder Woman versus Aura Plastic Man.
01:56:13
BeyBlade
I'm telling you right now, Plastic Man is going... with this um I will need to be convinced that Plastic Man doesn't go all the way to the finals.
01:56:22
silkdong
Devin, it's Wonder Woman. I'm sorry.
01:56:24
BeyBlade
It's Plastic Man, dude. Dude! yeah
01:56:26
silkdong
This is like...
01:56:27
semendemon
Wonder Woman waxes plastic lid.
01:56:28
Steve-O
I think Wonder Woman...
01:56:29
silkdong
Yeah.
01:56:29
Steve-O
I think Plastic Man's gonna definitely put something up, but...
01:56:30
silkdong
yeah
01:56:31
BeyBlade
I think Plastic Man beat the compromised Wonder Woman.
01:56:33
semendemon
It's gonna get weird.
01:56:33
silkdong
Wonder Woman... Wonder Woman rinses Plastic Man. I don't care if he's got Aura or not.
01:56:37
semendemon
Yeah. It's over.
01:56:40
silkdong
She puts him under the fucking faucet and cleans him dry.
01:56:40
BeyBlade
You know Yeah, I thought we were just trying to push new talent, guys.
01:56:42
semendemon
She is the... If Batman's the best...
01:56:44
BeyBlade
Sorry.
01:56:45
Steve-O
Yeah, we're trying to push new talent.
01:56:45
BeyBlade
we were trying to push new talent.
01:56:47
semendemon
She's the best warrior.
01:56:47
BeyBlade
This is Hogan sitting all over again.
01:56:48
semendemon
She's the best... Probably the best...
01:56:49
silkdong
She might win the whole thing!
01:56:50
semendemon
She's probably the best warrior on the board.
01:56:51
silkdong
and
01:56:51
BeyBlade
She ain't... She's not winning anything. She's a woman.
01:56:54
semendemon
She's the best warrior on the board.
01:56:55
BeyBlade
all Sorry. Sorry.
01:56:56
silkdong
You're out of class. We
Swamp Thing vs. Cyborg Outcome
01:56:57
BeyBlade
Okay. All right.
01:56:57
silkdong
don't even have to go to chat GPT for this.
01:57:02
silkdong
Alright, Swamp Thing vs Cyborg. This might get weird.
01:57:05
semendemon
this is weird.
01:57:05
BeyBlade
ah
01:57:06
Steve-O
I think it's going to be Cyborg.
01:57:10
semendemon
I think small thing.
01:57:13
silkdong
I can't.
01:57:13
BeyBlade
Swamp Thing versus Wonder Woman? I'd say Swamp Thing.
01:57:15
silkdong
No, stop looking at the future, Devin.
01:57:17
BeyBlade
I'm just... I know, I'm just...
01:57:18
silkdong
Just look at the one right in front of us. Swamp Thing versus Cyborg.
01:57:21
Steve-O
Something cyborg.
01:57:22
silkdong
Don't think about what's going on next.
01:57:22
BeyBlade
Sorry, sorry. Swamp Thing. Swamp Thing. He's just gonna... Fill him up with vines, dude.
01:57:29
semendemon
nature Nature versus technology.
01:57:31
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude.
01:57:31
semendemon
He's going win. Nature wins.
01:57:33
BeyBlade
Once that battery runs out,
01:57:34
silkdong
ah Nature's losing the battle right now, Chris. Technology, so ah that's how I see it
01:57:39
BeyBlade
I didn't know you were so pro-Pi, John.
01:57:40
semendemon
Well, no, no, no, no.
01:57:41
BeyBlade
God.
01:57:42
semendemon
Humans are losing the battle. Nature's just going to keep going.
01:57:45
BeyBlade
I got to deal with John Suarez the white. He's fucking popping trees down, dude.
01:57:49
silkdong
I'm just saying.
01:57:51
BeyBlade
All
01:57:51
silkdong
I kind of want to go Cyborg here because...
01:57:55
BeyBlade
right. Well, Steve, what are his name?
01:57:56
Steve-O
I said Cyborg. I said Cyborg. I go to to the machine.
01:57:58
BeyBlade
You got to check Jake's chat.
01:57:59
semendemon
chat d TV.
01:57:59
silkdong
oh
01:58:00
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
01:58:01
silkdong
just be times breaker yeah it's good yeah yeah you want to place your bets now?
01:58:01
Steve-O
Cyborg. Hey, Cyborg.
01:58:02
BeyBlade
yeah
01:58:03
Steve-O
Who's going to win? Hey, Cyborg.
01:58:04
semendemon
ah
01:58:07
BeyBlade
i forehead here
01:58:07
semendemon
and
01:58:09
silkdong
I feel like ChatGPT is going to be biased.
01:58:10
semendemon
What was Cyborg's AI that he kept talking to in Doom Patrol? can't remember.
01:58:15
silkdong
Alright, who wins? Cyborg Or Swamp Thing. And give an actual answer.
01:58:23
semendemon
He eats father boxes now, so that may tell him.
01:58:23
silkdong
Pick one.
01:58:27
silkdong
Yeah, he's got... Oh, okay.
01:58:30
semendemon
But I say, smart yeah, told you.
01:58:30
silkdong
Swamp Thing wins. Here's the breakdown. Power Source, Cyborg's tech base, his strength, weaponry, and regen all depend on the Mother Box and his cybernetic systems. Swamp Thing, on the other hand, draws from the green.
01:58:44
silkdong
The entire biosphere of Earth. That's an effectively limitless mystical energy source. Durability and regen. Swamp Thing can regenerate from a single spore, root, or piece of vegetation anywhere on Earth.
01:58:56
silkdong
You could disintegrate him and he'd just grow a new body. Cyborg systems can repair themselves, but not if they're completely dismantled or... Oh, he can get Robocop 3'd.
01:59:03
semendemon
He's going to be like Kiriyama from UU Hawkshow.
01:59:03
silkdong
Yeah.
01:59:06
silkdong
Anywhere with vegetation, Swamp Thing controls the battlefield.
01:59:06
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:59:09
silkdong
He can entangle Cyborg, crush him, or even drag him into the green itself, a realm where Cyborg's tech is useless.
01:59:15
semendemon
Boom.
01:59:15
silkdong
Intelligence versatility, Cyborg's a tactical genius and can hack anything electronic, but Swamp Thing's mind isn't digital. He's a metaphysical elemental force. Hacking doesn't help here. Swamp Thing wins 9 out of 10 times, according to Swamp Thing.
01:59:28
Steve-O
wow
01:59:30
semendemon
Easy, guys. Easy, bro.
01:59:31
silkdong
They need to go with the home field. Alright, I guess it's Swamp Thing.
01:59:34
BeyBlade
okay
01:59:36
silkdong
I mean, that's a lot of arguments for Swamp Thing being the most overpowered being on this list in general, but...
01:59:41
semendemon
He really is. Like if you take into account the green and everything.
01:59:45
silkdong
Yeah. Okay, we'll see.
01:59:47
semendemon
But I think it's going to be different because I don't think this is Earth, right? Okay.
01:59:51
silkdong
We'll see.
01:59:51
BeyBlade
and It's Earth-like, you know?
01:59:54
silkdong
Alright, Batman versus his son.
01:59:56
BeyBlade
so So we're saying Joker, Joker, Batman.
01:59:58
silkdong
Yeah, Joker streaked... joer Joker lipstick streaked Batman versus Damian Wayne.
02:00:03
BeyBlade
I mean, Damien's Rey, he's blood rat lusted because his dad got killed.
02:00:04
silkdong
It's Joker... It's
02:00:08
semendemon
It's going to be the Joker.
02:00:10
silkdong
Is it confirmed it's Joker as Batman?
02:00:12
BeyBlade
No, but we're just...
02:00:12
silkdong
Is that a confirmation?
02:00:12
semendemon
No. I just made that up. i
02:00:15
silkdong
I mean, either way, I mean, if it's just Batman versus Damien, Batman wins.
02:00:19
semendemon
I know.
02:00:19
BeyBlade
Well, it's definitely not Batman.
02:00:19
silkdong
He's bad.
02:00:19
semendemon
And i think i think I think Joker wins here, too.
02:00:23
silkdong
and Joker also wins.
02:00:23
BeyBlade
Batman definitively does not cross the finish line.
02:00:26
silkdong
Okay. All right, Batman, it is. Well, Steve, what do you think?
02:00:30
Steve-O
No, I agree. I agree. I'm in full agreement.
02:00:32
silkdong
All right, Zatanna versus Harley Quinn.
02:00:35
BeyBlade
Oh, the goon matchup, dude.
02:00:35
silkdong
On paper, it's Zatanna.
02:00:38
semendemon
In Goon World, it's Harley Quinn.
02:00:40
Steve-O
It's Harley Quinn.
02:00:41
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:00:41
silkdong
I don't know. In my goon world, it's Zatanna.
02:00:43
semendemon
No. She's gonna knock her fucking teeth out of her mouth.........................
02:00:46
Steve-O
Harley Quinn has sold way more than Zatanna.
02:00:46
silkdong
I'm not a umm not a... I'm not a... so I'm not a psycho ah sex goon freak like you guys that like clown women.
02:00:54
Steve-O
Ha ha ha ha ha!
02:00:54
silkdong
Alright? and I'm going with regular gooning.
02:00:57
BeyBlade
Yeah,
02:00:58
Steve-O
I just go to magic shows to get off.
02:00:58
silkdong
And that's Zatanna.
02:01:00
Steve-O
God damn it. I
02:01:03
silkdong
I like my women wizards.
02:01:05
Steve-O
like my women's sawn in half.
02:01:08
silkdong
but So they both say Harley Quinn. What do you say, Devin? Because this depends on you. and Don't just make an answer because you want ChatGPT to make a thing. Because ChatGPT is going to say Zatanna.
02:01:16
BeyBlade
No, I...
02:01:19
silkdong
I'm guaranteeing it.
02:01:19
BeyBlade
I think it's going to be something like...
02:01:20
semendemon
o
02:01:23
BeyBlade
ah Harley Quinn's going to... She's going to outsmart Zatanna.
02:01:27
silkdong
Okay, so it's 3-1.
02:01:27
semendemon
Yeah.
02:01:28
BeyBlade
She's going to get past it. Yeah.
02:01:29
silkdong
The fucking clown sex-crazed goons win this one, I guess.
02:01:33
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
02:01:34
semendemon
Yeah.
02:01:34
BeyBlade
i guess Guess what?
02:01:34
silkdong
From Hot Topic.
02:01:35
BeyBlade
Guess what?
02:01:36
silkdong
All right. Semifinals guys.
02:01:38
BeyBlade
All right.
02:01:39
silkdong
Oh no. Quarterfinals. Superman versus Guy Gardner. Not really.
02:01:43
semendemon
Wait, wait, wait.
02:01:43
BeyBlade
All right.
02:01:43
semendemon
Hold on one sec.
02:01:46
silkdong
What?
02:01:49
BeyBlade
I think Chris is going to do a joke and then his mic died.
02:01:52
Steve-O
He just died.
02:01:54
BeyBlade
Oh, no.
02:01:56
silkdong
Oh no.
02:01:56
BeyBlade
Or was that like a legitimate hold on one second?
02:01:58
semendemon
um back.
02:01:58
Steve-O
hold on, hold What happened?
02:01:59
BeyBlade
Okay.
02:02:00
silkdong
Oh.
02:02:00
Steve-O
but You get yours then?
02:02:00
semendemon
I had... No, I dropped something and it was leaking everywhere and I had to clear them.
02:02:05
silkdong
It was your Zen.
02:02:06
BeyBlade
i We legitimately thought you were going to make a like a joke and then you never came back.
02:02:07
silkdong
You dropped your Zen.
02:02:10
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:02:12
BeyBlade
We were very confused.
02:02:13
semendemon
No, no, i am really i am really invested. Superman.
02:02:15
silkdong
i'm I'm typing Superman in right now.
02:02:16
BeyBlade
Okay.
02:02:17
silkdong
I don't know about you guys.
02:02:18
Steve-O
Yeah. No, that's Superman.
02:02:19
silkdong
Okay.
02:02:19
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:02:19
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:02:20
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
02:02:21
semendemon
Superman.
02:02:22
silkdong
Aquaman versus Lex.
02:02:22
BeyBlade
ay
02:02:23
silkdong
I'm already typing Lex. But go on.
02:02:26
Steve-O
It's Lex.
02:02:28
silkdong
I mean, Lex beat Supergirl. So...
02:02:31
BeyBlade
i think I think Lex beats Hawkman or Aquaman.
02:02:34
semendemon
Yeah. It's going to be Lex and Superman at the end.
02:02:36
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's going to Lex.
02:02:37
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:02:37
BeyBlade
going to be Lex.
02:02:38
semendemon
Yeah.
02:02:38
silkdong
Alright, okay. Wonder Woman versus Swamp Thing.
02:02:42
semendemon
I think Wonder Woman takes this.
02:02:42
silkdong
Gut says Wonder Woman.
02:02:43
Steve-O
I think it could be Wonder Woman.
02:02:44
silkdong
Gut says Wonder Woman.
02:02:45
BeyBlade
Wonder a Woman.
02:02:47
semendemon
This is the one Swamp Thing loses. She eats him.
02:02:51
silkdong
She just...
02:02:52
Steve-O
Pour some dressing on him.
02:02:52
silkdong
If it's absolute Wonder Woman, she he doesn't stand a chance.
02:02:55
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:02:55
silkdong
But yeah.
02:02:55
semendemon
Yes. Yes.
02:02:57
silkdong
Wonder Woman. And then...
02:02:59
BeyBlade
Okay.
02:03:02
silkdong
Batman versus Harley Quinn.
02:03:05
semendemon
Joker versus Harley Quinn. That's Joker taking the win.
02:03:08
Steve-O
Yeah, I think that's ah Batman Joker.
02:03:09
BeyBlade
okay You think over Harley You don't think they're going to...
02:03:13
semendemon
Yeah.
02:03:15
silkdong
fucking that lipstick streak is fucking this fucking this whole thing up, man.
02:03:18
semendemon
I bet you too.
02:03:18
BeyBlade
No, I'm going to say... ah I would say Harley Quinn.
02:03:20
semendemon
I bet you at this point he's not fighting in MAC.
02:03:21
BeyBlade
I would say Harley I think Wonder Woman versus Harley...
02:03:23
semendemon
Mm-hmm.
02:03:24
Steve-O
So you think so? It could either be Wonder Woman versus Joker or Wonder Woman versus Harley.
02:03:31
silkdong
Versus Xur and R, Batman.
02:03:31
semendemon
who
02:03:37
silkdong
Is better for the ratings.
02:03:39
semendemon
No, I think it's going to be Joker and she's literally just going to snap his fucking neck. And it's going to be like a super...
02:03:44
BeyBlade
you don't You don't think she...
02:03:45
semendemon
No, it's not even going to be a big fight.
02:03:48
BeyBlade
yeah um But I'm thinking battle damage moves forward, you know?
02:03:48
semendemon
He's going to come out goofy and Wonder Woman's just going to rip his fucking head off his shoulders.
02:03:51
BeyBlade
who's ever forward.
02:03:54
silkdong
Alright, so we're saying Batman over Holly Quinn.
02:03:56
BeyBlade
Okay.
02:03:56
Steve-O
I'll say Batman.
02:03:57
BeyBlade
Yeah, Batman. Air quote.
02:04:00
silkdong
Alright, man, this is getting boring now, guys. Superman versus Lex.
02:04:03
BeyBlade
Yes.
02:04:05
silkdong
Superman with ah brass knuckles versus Lex.
02:04:08
BeyBlade
yeah versus Lex and maybe a mech suit.
02:04:11
Steve-O
Dude, dude, here's the shocker.
02:04:12
BeyBlade
Power suit. Sorry, power suit.
02:04:13
silkdong
Uh-oh.
02:04:13
Steve-O
What if it's Lex? What if it's Lex?
02:04:15
semendemon
It's going to be less.
02:04:16
BeyBlade
No way. No way.
02:04:18
Steve-O
Dude.
02:04:19
BeyBlade
This is no way.
02:04:19
Steve-O
Dude, if Joker killed Batman already. Dude, what if that's the finals?
02:04:23
silkdong
I mean, i mean if yeah know if if Superman ends up losing, would probably be this fight.
02:04:24
Steve-O
Lex versus Joker Batman?
02:04:29
silkdong
he would lose if If he loses anybody here, it would be Lex.
02:04:34
BeyBlade
Okay. Okay.
02:04:35
silkdong
But I don't know. i It's also Superman with sun-powered brass knuckles, like you guys said.
02:04:41
Steve-O
Yeah, that's something.
02:04:42
silkdong
So that's something. That's aura.
02:04:43
Steve-O
But then what does Lex have?
02:04:44
BeyBlade
yeah
02:04:44
Steve-O
What does fucking Lex have if Superman's got fucking tools?
02:04:49
silkdong
He's got infinite glazing from Rick Flag.
02:04:52
Steve-O
Oh, he's got the Rick Flagglaze.
02:04:52
silkdong
That's what he's got.
02:04:54
BeyBlade
a
02:04:58
silkdong
I don't know.
02:04:58
BeyBlade
Man, I don't know.
02:04:58
silkdong
What do you think?
02:04:59
BeyBlade
I don't know.
02:04:59
Steve-O
my heart of My heart of hearts is Superman, but the brain, the brain says Luther.
02:05:03
BeyBlade
Because, like, again, it's reading reading the issue, it really, and I'm not saying they're they they're not going to swerve, but reading this issue kind of seems like a journey for Clark, and I just don't see him blowing it.
02:05:04
semendemon
Yeah. You
02:05:16
semendemon
don't see it ending there.
02:05:17
Steve-O
deviating
02:05:18
BeyBlade
I just don't see it ending it there. And like, what what path to victory does he have? Does Lex actually have? In a power suit versus Superman with mini sun brass knuckles.
02:05:28
silkdong
Yeah, and he already he already had to fight the fucking Woman of Tomorrow Supergirl too and beat her.
02:05:33
semendemon
Yeah.
02:05:34
Steve-O
So he has to go all the way.
02:05:34
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah.
02:05:35
Steve-O
All right. I could say Superman.
02:05:38
silkdong
And and a Wonder Woman versus Joker streaked Batman.
02:05:38
semendemon
Okay.
02:05:43
silkdong
Joker lipstick streaked Batman.
02:05:45
semendemon
She's gonna rip his fucking head off.
02:05:46
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah, I think that's where it stops.
02:05:47
semendemon
Like, it's not even gonna be a fight.
02:05:47
silkdong
You think so?
02:05:49
BeyBlade
Yeah, I do think that's where it stops.
02:05:51
semendemon
It's not even gonna be a fight.
02:05:51
BeyBlade
And I think Wonder Woman clears.
02:05:54
Steve-O
Alright, Wonder Woman. So that way, Superman, Wonder Woman final, possibly?
02:05:57
BeyBlade
Yes, but then you get the interference from the other three.
02:06:01
silkdong
ah The Absolutes.
02:06:01
semendemon
Hmm.
02:06:03
BeyBlade
Yeah, and then you have Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman.
02:06:05
silkdong
No, the Absolutes win.
02:06:07
BeyBlade
And hey, and and there's your racket, fellas.
02:06:10
Steve-O
absolute batman wins
02:06:12
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's one.
02:06:12
semendemon
yeah l
02:06:13
silkdong
I'll just type Absolute Batman in here.
02:06:14
BeyBlade
Did you guys know that he's 6'9 and 420 pounds?
02:06:14
Steve-O
absolutely that may win
02:06:18
BeyBlade
I don't think we've talked about that enough.
02:06:18
Steve-O
that's correct easy buts a big man
02:06:20
BeyBlade
Okay, wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry.
02:06:21
silkdong
um But let's look let's look at it subjectively. Superman vs. Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman is like Superman, but also has magic. So there's that.
02:06:31
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:06:32
silkdong
But Superman...
02:06:32
BeyBlade
And she's probably a better just fighter.
02:06:35
semendemon
I think Superman's gonna let her win.
02:06:39
BeyBlade
Wow.
02:06:39
silkdong
Damn, he fucking bitches out the last second.
02:06:42
semendemon
Yeah.
02:06:43
BeyBlade
no
02:06:43
silkdong
So you say Wonder Woman. I'm leaning Superman.
02:06:45
semendemon
and That's who Clark is.
02:06:45
Steve-O
See, wonder ah Wonder Woman wouldn't back down. And I think Clark's going to be like, whoa, hey...
02:06:50
silkdong
And Clark's soft.
02:06:50
BeyBlade
man said you got You guys don't think you guys don't think like Superman, who's very angry with Joker, Batman, you don't think...
02:06:50
semendemon
I can't kill her.
02:07:02
BeyBlade
Damn.
02:07:02
semendemon
Because it's all over.
02:07:03
BeyBlade
All right.
02:07:03
semendemon
She ripped his fucking head off.
02:07:05
BeyBlade
I guess. Yeah. yeah
02:07:08
semendemon
It's like it's so definitive a murder.
02:07:08
BeyBlade
He doesn't even have time to be mad. yeah
02:07:11
semendemon
Like...
02:07:11
silkdong
All right so what who do you say, Steve?
02:07:11
semendemon
Yep.
02:07:12
BeyBlade
That would be funny if it's hyped up and then it's just that.
02:07:15
semendemon
yep
02:07:15
Steve-O
i'm going to say I'm going to say he does let Wonder Woman win, so I agree with Wonder Woman.
02:07:18
silkdong
So you're saying Wonder Woman. I'm leaning Superman. what about you Devin?
02:07:27
BeyBlade
I'm going to say Wonder Woman and then surprise entrance.
02:07:32
silkdong
No.
02:07:32
BeyBlade
Plastic Man comes back and then, and then.
02:07:33
silkdong
and Oh, my God.
02:07:35
BeyBlade
No, she gets.
02:07:35
Steve-O
See, I do have a theory.
02:07:36
BeyBlade
Yeah, she gets.
02:07:38
Steve-O
i think, okay, I think Wonder Woman wins, but I think it's going to be revealed that she's been controlled by Starro the entire time.
02:07:45
silkdong
No.
02:07:45
semendemon
laughter laughter laughter
02:07:46
BeyBlade
He gets to, he gets
02:07:48
silkdong
It's actually Plastic Man.
02:07:49
Steve-O
Yeah, Plastic Man's there the whole time.
02:07:49
silkdong
Plastic Man.
02:07:52
BeyBlade
he gets to he gets the havings shot
02:07:55
silkdong
Plastic Man somehow beat Swamp Thing as imitating Wonder Woman.
02:07:55
BeyBlade
on
02:07:58
BeyBlade
No, dude, it's... I think Superman just being the overall... Because then they're like... Then the final, final boss is Darkseid.
02:08:07
silkdong
Is it Absolutes? Oh, it's Darkseid.
02:08:09
Steve-O
Oh, it's whoever fights.
02:08:10
BeyBlade
No, no, no. They're the you know they're the the terrible trio or whatever. And then after that, Darkseid's like, oh, yeah, I'm also... They have to fight me at the end.
02:08:17
semendemon
it's
02:08:18
silkdong
Oh, by the way, it's me, Shin Akuma.
02:08:18
semendemon
No, no, this this is foreshadowing from the beginning of the first issue. She was going to win that board game, so she's winning this.
02:08:26
BeyBlade
Okay.
02:08:27
Steve-O
Hmm. All right, so Superman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Wumber Woman. Wumber Woman.
02:08:32
silkdong
Oh, man.
02:08:32
semendemon
Wumbering.
02:08:33
silkdong
We gotta go. We gotta go to chat GPT.
02:08:34
Steve-O
onebo Yeah, we got to go Cyborg.
02:08:35
silkdong
he's go he go to say He's gonna say Superman, but let's see.
02:08:35
Steve-O
Cyborg.
02:08:38
semendemon
He's going to say Superman.
02:08:39
silkdong
Who wins? Superman or Wonder Woman?
02:08:43
BeyBlade
Man, you should put the whole bracket in.
02:08:44
silkdong
And give An actual answer. Pick one. Maybe I will put the actual bracket in.
02:08:52
BeyBlade
is just...
02:08:53
silkdong
Superman wins. Here's why. Straight up. No fence sitting. Raw power. Superman outclasses Wonder Woman in sheer physical strength, speed, and endurance. She's a demigoddess trained for combat.
02:09:04
silkdong
But Clark can move planets, survive supernovas, and react faster than light. Diana can hang with him in bursts. She's fought him toe-to-toe, but she's usually shown to strain where he doesn't.
02:09:15
silkdong
Durability. Wonder Woman's near and vulnerable, but Superman's literally indestructible under a yellow sun. She bleeds. He almost never does. Speed advantage. Superman's speed is ridiculous. Faster than flash-level reflexes when written that way.
02:09:29
silkdong
Diana's quick, but she's not matching orbital entry speed punches or instantaneous flight across continents. Skill and weapons. Wonder Woman is the better fighter. She's a trained Amazon warrior with a magical arsenal.
02:09:42
silkdong
If she gets creative, she can absolutely hurt Superman. Her sword has drawn his blood before, but even then, she's got to land the hits. And he's just too fast and too strong for that to be consistent.
02:09:53
silkdong
Bottom line, when both go all out and morals are off, Superman wins 8 out of 10 times. Wonder Woman can make him work for it, but physics, power scaling, and raw stats favor the Man of Steel.
02:10:05
semendemon
And I had disagreed with two aspects of that.
02:10:08
silkdong
The Move Planets.
02:10:08
semendemon
Restraint, restraints, and morality.
02:10:10
silkdong
Oh.
02:10:12
semendemon
You can never subtract morality from Superman. It's impossible. And I also think that Diana has less restraint than Clark does.
02:10:22
semendemon
They said that was the opposite. I don't think that's true.
02:10:25
silkdong
Well, and in that case, then you could just make the argument that Power Girl should be here then.
02:10:29
semendemon
o not But Wonder Woman is just so much of a better fighter.
02:10:30
silkdong
You know?
02:10:35
semendemon
than Power Girl. Like, if she wanted to, she could best Clark.
02:10:39
silkdong
Right, but I mean, I'm saying like, you know, if morality was a thing, yeah, Superman would pin Giganto for three seconds, but Power Girl could probably best him at that point.
02:10:40
semendemon
That's where I feel.
02:10:51
silkdong
And then she would end she would end up being here.
02:10:51
semendemon
Maybe. i don't know. I think Wonder Woman...
02:10:55
silkdong
Or maybe Lex would.
02:10:56
semendemon
I think Superman's going to let her win. That's, like, the big part of it all.
02:11:01
silkdong
Okay.
02:11:02
semendemon
That's where I'm like, oh, it's going to be the the twist.
02:11:02
silkdong
Oh.
02:11:05
silkdong
Or Superman Wonder Woman collude, split the pot.
02:11:10
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
02:11:11
silkdong
And then they both go toe to toe to toe with the absolute trio and dark side.
02:11:21
BeyBlade
Well, then the trio realize that they're being played and then they've... Oh, my God.
02:11:24
silkdong
And then they all fight Darkseid.
02:11:25
BeyBlade
Right. Yeah.
02:11:27
semendemon
You figured it out, Devin.
02:11:28
BeyBlade
And then they announce that they're ending the absolute universe. Oh, wait. No, that's what Marvel was doing.
02:11:31
silkdong
But I mean... Yeah, but like...
02:11:34
semendemon
Hehehehe.
02:11:35
silkdong
and know you can't turn morals off, but like... Still, just like... Power level to power level, Superman will just win. You know?
02:11:44
semendemon
No, I get that.
02:11:45
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:11:45
semendemon
I totally understand that aspect of it, but it's you're subtracting the character in that regard.
02:11:45
silkdong
You know?
02:11:51
silkdong
Okay.
02:11:52
semendemon
That's where I'm like, oh okay, that's going to be the big sacrifice.
02:11:57
silkdong
Yeah, Superman, Shaq, Wonder Woman's Allen Iverson. And Shaq still wins.
02:12:04
BeyBlade
in
02:12:07
BeyBlade
Man. Now, okay.
02:12:09
silkdong
I don't know.
02:12:09
BeyBlade
Now, if like if we just remove stuff like that and we just look at it narratively, it'd be really boring if it was just Wonder Woman and Superman.
02:12:17
silkdong
I know, it's not going to be that. It's going to be Plastic Man versus Jay Garrick in the finals.
02:12:18
semendemon
I know.
02:12:19
BeyBlade
It won't be.
02:12:20
semendemon
That's true.
02:12:21
BeyBlade
Yes, dude!
02:12:24
semendemon
That'll be fun.
02:12:25
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:12:27
semendemon
That would be fun.
02:12:27
silkdong
Oh, man.
02:12:27
Steve-O
make it happen
02:12:28
semendemon
And it's Scott Snyder, and there's going to be some twists along the way.
02:12:28
BeyBlade
So...
02:12:30
semendemon
I really don't want it to be this.
02:12:30
BeyBlade
Yeah, I hate that I'm excited for this. I really, it bothers me.
02:12:34
semendemon
You, the one who started this, you son of a bitch.
02:12:36
BeyBlade
I know, I know, basing.
02:12:37
Steve-O
This is yours. You you put this forth.
02:12:39
semendemon
Yeah, own this, man.
02:12:43
Steve-O
All right. I think it's time we go into some ah some some quick news updates and what's been going on.
02:12:44
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:12:48
BeyBlade
Quick newsies.
02:12:49
Steve-O
Yeah, let's get some quick newsies.
02:12:49
BeyBlade
Hold on. Let's see.
02:12:52
semendemon
Send help.
02:12:55
Steve-O
That's a movie, right?
02:12:57
semendemon
Nope.
02:12:58
Steve-O
Oh, my God.
02:12:58
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah, it's the new Sam Raimi movie.
02:12:59
semendemon
Something bad's happening here.
02:13:00
BeyBlade
It's the new Sam Raimi movie.
02:13:00
Steve-O
Oh, God.
02:13:03
semendemon
ah This looks interesting. it It go. I do. When I was watching this. I have a little. like I was like a little nitpick. That bothered me.
02:13:14
semendemon
um This is pretty much the plot of. a Triangle of Sadness. You know.
02:13:21
BeyBlade
Yeah, ah yeah, yes.
02:13:23
semendemon
Like I've seen this and it was good in that. Like that was interesting. Um, yeah, I just like this one lays it on a little thicker, you know, like this one, it's going to be a bit more of like a thriller.
02:13:35
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:13:35
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
02:13:40
semendemon
i don't know if I classify triangle of sadness as a thriller, maybe towards the end, but, um, that's fucking nuts.
02:13:46
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:13:48
BeyBlade
yeah
02:13:49
semendemon
But that's like the fun part of the movie is it starts as a, uh, like this weird survival kind of comedy. Like it's kind of funny. And then at the very end, it gets really dark.
02:14:01
semendemon
um Yeah, I don't know. I love Sam Raimi, so probably I'm going to be a day one, but that did bug me a little.
02:14:10
BeyBlade
Right, yeah.
02:14:11
semendemon
That's all.
02:14:13
BeyBlade
Oh, God. Did you guys see the trailer for this Primate movie?
02:14:18
semendemon
Yeah, I did.
02:14:20
BeyBlade
I hate how how into this I am.
02:14:24
semendemon
There is something.
02:14:26
BeyBlade
I like it.
02:14:27
semendemon
So is the concept, this is what i got from the trailer, is the concept that he, another monkey takes his place and kills a good monkey.
02:14:31
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:14:37
BeyBlade
yeah and Something sets...
02:14:40
Steve-O
Thank you.
02:14:40
BeyBlade
oh Oh, you think it's like an Ernest goes to jail situation?
02:14:44
semendemon
Yeah, very much. Like he yeah ah
02:14:48
BeyBlade
I mean, but potentially potentially, yeah.
02:14:51
semendemon
like he's like, oh, they like this monkey. I'll just pretend to be
02:14:53
BeyBlade
I thought so something sets him off, you know? Because that's the the fear.
02:14:59
semendemon
Okay.
02:14:59
BeyBlade
ah ah Just like, it's the house chimp, and then all of a sudden, he's just not cool anymore.
02:14:59
semendemon
That probably is it.
02:15:05
semendemon
that's that's That makes more sense. like how Why would there be so many chimps in that area?
02:15:08
BeyBlade
This reminds me... yeah I feel like this is so much of a boardroom.
02:15:11
Steve-O
Bye.
02:15:14
BeyBlade
Like, hey, that Netflix chimp documentary came out. And also I'm reading about this meme about 100 men versus a gorilla.
02:15:24
semendemon
Yeah.
02:15:24
BeyBlade
What if we mushed it together? And i don't I don't hate it.
02:15:30
semendemon
It's like a ah logarithm movie, right?
02:15:32
BeyBlade
Yeah, but it's going to it's going to make a billion dollars if it's remotely good.
02:15:39
semendemon
Yeah, there's something to, like, the whole idea of, like, the idea of owning any of these creatures as pets. Like, that's going to be persistent commentary in this.
02:15:47
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:15:51
semendemon
Like, it's not a good idea to own a primate as a pet.
02:15:54
BeyBlade
And also, like, what if he's like, what, 20 January? Oh, it's January Oh, boy. Unrated. So we don't if this is rated I'm thinking we're in for some good stuff.
02:16:08
semendemon
well
02:16:08
BeyBlade
ah because you're going to see some face ripping. And that's what I kind of want to see.
02:16:13
Steve-O
That's what you come for with that.
02:16:14
BeyBlade
I don't think so. I don't think so. I think it's going to be PG-13.
02:16:17
semendemon
Is it
02:16:17
Steve-O
and
02:16:18
BeyBlade
And i think I think they're chasing after the Megan.
02:16:21
semendemon
is it going to be better than Shachma?
02:16:23
BeyBlade
um
02:16:24
Steve-O
Shachma!
02:16:27
semendemon
Which I think has been referenced every episode of this podcast for the past four weeks now.
02:16:33
Steve-O
I think you're right. We have talked about Shachma a lot.
02:16:35
semendemon
It comes up a lot and I'm glad there this is like a modern retelling of Shockma. Because we need more of that.
02:16:42
Steve-O
Finally, Gen Alpha has its Shockma.
02:16:46
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:16:46
semendemon
Probably more money made to make this. I would imagine. Prime 8. Go see it.
02:16:53
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:16:53
semendemon
We're all monkeys and on the inside.
02:16:54
BeyBlade
ah i I'm not saying I'm not interested in Primate. That's all.
02:17:01
semendemon
You're all monkeys to me.
02:17:02
BeyBlade
That's all. ah So I made a fun little hilarious joke earlier. You probably missed it because you didn't laugh about it.
02:17:09
Steve-O
No, I understood it.
02:17:09
BeyBlade
But, oh, that hurts more.
02:17:11
semendemon
Look
02:17:13
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:17:15
semendemon
at that tumbleweed.
02:17:15
BeyBlade
ah
02:17:16
semendemon
Tumbleweed rolling in.
02:17:17
BeyBlade
So ah Marvel's Ultimate Universe is ending in 2026.
02:17:22
semendemon
Why?
02:17:22
BeyBlade
um
02:17:24
semendemon
Sales? Sales.
02:17:25
BeyBlade
and They don't think it's sales. So much like the Absolute Universe, the Ultimate, I guess the relaunch of the Ultimate Universe is like a Hickman joint.
02:17:37
BeyBlade
And it seems like it's been doing pretty well. You know, obviously some misses, but like a lot of hits. ah People are interested. And then He's telling the story where they're at a retreat.
02:17:48
BeyBlade
And um I cannot remember the name of the whoever is like the editor in chief at Disney or Disney at Marvel right now.
02:18:00
BeyBlade
ah But he basically said, oh, no, we're just going to we're ending the whole line. And Jonathan Hickman's like, what what do you mean? I have ideas. They're like, yeah, no, you can do those ideas.
02:18:08
Steve-O
Thank you.
02:18:10
BeyBlade
It's just we're ending it. So, like, it's just over. So it's just this weird self-inflicted move. And then I start reading about, like, how people are viewing Marvel right now.
02:18:23
BeyBlade
And they're like, yeah, this is exactly, like, the problem. Like, it just seems like they're just shooting themselves in the foot. They finally get something that everybody seems a little bit more interested in narratively. And then they just decide to just wipe it away.
02:18:38
BeyBlade
Which, I don't know. ah Marvel definitely seems like they're pretty narratively bankrupt at the moment. You know, everybody has their peaks. And DC's on the high. And Marvel's definitely on the low. So...
02:18:53
BeyBlade
It's a bummer to be fair. I haven't read a single issue of the ultimate, the new ultimate.
02:18:58
silkdong
That sucks.
02:19:00
BeyBlade
It's just super odd that they're just like, yeah, let's just just get rid of it.
02:19:04
Steve-O
Ultimates been going since 2000, right? With ultimate.
02:19:07
BeyBlade
Yeah, but it stopped and they relaunched it like two years ago.
02:19:07
Steve-O
Stop go.
02:19:12
BeyBlade
Or even a year ago. And they're like, no, it's ending soon. And this isn't like...
02:19:18
Steve-O
stop go
02:19:19
BeyBlade
There's arguments about whether Hickman is down for this or not down for it. um But they're just like, it's kind of like the Krakoa arc, just with a different, you know, makeup on, essentially.
02:19:33
BeyBlade
So people are, again, pretty bummed. It just seems weird. It just seems like a really dumb decision.
02:19:40
Steve-O
It seems dumb.
02:19:41
BeyBlade
You know what's not dumb? Jim Carrey is George Jetson.
02:19:45
Steve-O
You know what? Jim Carrey is...
02:19:47
BeyBlade
hey I hate it.
02:19:47
Steve-O
he's He's done Hollywood, Carrey.
02:19:48
BeyBlade
love it.
02:19:49
Steve-O
He's back in the fun... He's making kids movies for kids now, it seems.
02:19:54
BeyBlade
you know what You know what I legitimately think happened? I think when he announced that he was retiring, a bunch of work got thrown his way because everybody was like, oh, what if he's not around anymore?
02:20:07
BeyBlade
Let's get him now.
02:20:09
Steve-O
We need him for the Plastic Man movie.
02:20:09
BeyBlade
That's kind of what I don't – dude, I don't think it was like on purpose, but I kind of think that's been the reaction to him saying, hey, I'm retiring. And they're like, no, but like what if – we give you george jetson which is an odd it's good casting it's just something i never yeah i just didn't think there was some exec that was like dude are you telling me i'm gonna miss out on the george jetson action problem right one's gonna see it
02:20:26
Steve-O
Gotta do George. Gotta do George Jetson.
02:20:35
Steve-O
Unfortunately, i feel like that's a role he should have done. should have did in the nineties back when like the boomer generation was doing their nostalgia shit.
02:20:43
semendemon
yeah but when you retire when you retire and someone says hey man you got one more for george jetson you gotta gotta come out man you gotta get a pigeon yeah oh i like i like the jetsons i like that that treadmill that is funny
02:20:53
Steve-O
Yeah. Come on We need the old Jetson. Yeah.
02:20:56
BeyBlade
yeah We need the old George Shetson.
02:21:01
BeyBlade
you gotta You gotta work for Space Spacely again.
02:21:03
Steve-O
like I don't think you pull Jim Carrey out for just the Jetsons movie. I think you pull Jim Carrey out for the Jetsons meet the Flintstones, Jim Carrey, and fucking the big man Fred Flintstone John Goodman.
02:21:10
BeyBlade
you don't think?
02:21:18
semendemon
I'm good, man.
02:21:21
semendemon
Old Fred and old George.
02:21:23
BeyBlade
Dude.
02:21:26
BeyBlade
How sick would that be? Rick Moranis is back?
02:21:29
semendemon
Oh, post punch.
02:21:29
Steve-O
Jim Carrey.
02:21:30
silkdong
Mm-hmm.
02:21:32
BeyBlade
Who plays... Never mind. Well, I guess now, in the 90s, it would have been Roseanne playing Rosie the Robot, but I don't know.
02:21:41
semendemon
Nope. Not anymore.
02:21:43
BeyBlade
Who's it going to be this this time?
02:21:45
semendemon
Melissa McCarthy.
02:21:46
BeyBlade
oh
02:21:47
Steve-O
I mean, I think you get Rosie O'Donnell for both. ah Who was the character she played in Flintstones?
02:21:53
BeyBlade
Rosie the Maid. Oh, that's right. no um No, I said Roseanne.
02:21:59
Steve-O
No, no, but I said Rosie O'Donnell because that who.
02:22:00
semendemon
he said He's saying...
02:22:01
BeyBlade
Oh, so you want this to be the most annoying movie of all time?
02:22:02
semendemon
Wait, was Rosie O'Donnell in the Flintstones movie?
02:22:04
BeyBlade
She
02:22:05
silkdong
right.
02:22:05
Steve-O
Yeah, she played um the neighbor. She played. a
02:22:08
BeyBlade
played Fred, or not Fred, Barney's wife.
02:22:10
Steve-O
ah Barney's wife.
02:22:11
semendemon
Not but Betty Rubble?
02:22:12
Steve-O
Betty.
02:22:12
semendemon
No, no.
02:22:12
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, she played Betty.
02:22:13
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah it it was pretty miscast.
02:22:13
semendemon
Yeah, Betty.
02:22:16
Steve-O
And I say that way you get Rosie. you can She can do both. Rosie the Robot and Betty.
02:22:20
semendemon
It's
02:22:22
BeyBlade
I don't like that you're just like, yeah, it's going to be a crossover movie. Immediately?
02:22:26
semendemon
going to be a crossover hit, Devin.
02:22:27
BeyBlade
They did this when it was animated, guys.
02:22:28
semendemon
Not just a crossover movie.
02:22:29
Steve-O
Crossover hit. Come on. We live in we live in crossover birth.
02:22:32
BeyBlade
They did this already.
02:22:33
semendemon
No.
02:22:33
Steve-O
What if this is Ultimate Jetsons?
02:22:36
BeyBlade
Oh, hold on. Absolute George.
02:22:37
semendemon
No, no.
02:22:37
silkdong
Oh, absolute Jetsons.
02:22:38
semendemon
Absolute
02:22:38
Steve-O
absolutely Yeah, that's what I meant.
02:22:39
semendemon
Absolute happens.
02:22:40
Steve-O
Absolute. God damn.
02:22:42
semendemon
The pollution is killing every everyone below us.
02:22:45
Steve-O
George Jetson is seven feet fucking tall.
02:22:48
semendemon
I need to be the man to take control and bring back the people from the clown land.
02:22:54
BeyBlade
Oh, God.
02:22:56
Steve-O
Spacely. I mean, he does work as Spacely Sprocket, so he is a man of the people.
02:22:58
BeyBlade
I didn need my sprot hits. Yeah.
02:23:01
semendemon
demand sprockets.
02:23:02
BeyBlade
All right. Well, ah it sounds like we're all going to see it day one. And that's going to be my next tattoo. George Jetson's red hair.
02:23:13
Steve-O
And to end on a sad note.
02:23:14
BeyBlade
Twitter.
02:23:16
Steve-O
Masahiro Sakurai has passed.
02:23:20
semendemon
Oh my. That's really young.
02:23:23
BeyBlade
No, no, no, he didn't pass. Keshihiro, I'm sorry, Tobinobu Itagaki passed away.
02:23:30
semendemon
like everybody died who made this game.
02:23:31
Steve-O
Yeah, I'm reading this article you posted. It looked like three people died.
02:23:35
semendemon
It's like all of these people died.
02:23:35
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's about these guys, it's about these guys paying tribute.
02:23:36
Steve-O
I didn't know.
02:23:39
semendemon
Oh.
02:23:39
Steve-O
my God. I was just...
02:23:41
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's about Rika fucking, yo, you just outed yourself.
02:23:43
Steve-O
but you you post You posted a long ass fucking, you should have just posted a dead guy died.
02:23:44
semendemon
I got that one wrong.
02:23:49
BeyBlade
This is what happens when you read the article, guys.
02:23:50
Steve-O
Itagaki
02:23:52
BeyBlade
ah
02:23:53
Steve-O
pass, rest in peace.
02:23:54
BeyBlade
Yeah, to he's the... um So we don't know how or why. He definitely knew it was happening. he posted his last words on Facebook, ah which is very, you know...
02:24:05
semendemon
Whoa.
02:24:09
silkdong
It's like a poem.
02:24:09
BeyBlade
To me, very Japanese.
02:24:10
Steve-O
What were they?
02:24:11
BeyBlade
Yeah, it says, my my last words.
02:24:11
silkdong
Yeah.
02:24:14
BeyBlade
The flame of my life is finally about to be extinguished. The fact that this message has been posted means that the time has finally come. I am no longer of this world. I've entrusted this final post to someone important to me.
02:24:26
BeyBlade
My life was a series of battles. I kept winning. I caused a lot of trouble for others, too. I'm proud that I fought to the end following my convictions. I have no regrets. Except I am extremely sorry that I could not give all my fans a new game.
02:24:41
BeyBlade
That's the way it is. So it goes.
02:24:42
silkdong
Y'all wanted Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball too, man.
02:24:44
BeyBlade
Yeah. So he's the guy, Dead or Lie, that or live Beach Volleyball. um Oh my God, why am I thinking of the other one?
02:24:54
BeyBlade
Ninja Gaiden. That's the big one.
02:24:57
silkdong
Hmm.
02:24:57
BeyBlade
the The revival in 2004. And I wish I was a little bit older. when this guy was popular because he is so goddamn funny.
02:25:10
silkdong
He's so cool. Did you see that?
02:25:11
BeyBlade
Like I took it too seriously.
02:25:13
silkdong
Did you see that? um that You saw that post, right Because I saw you post it, too.
02:25:17
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:25:17
silkdong
Of his top five best games and top five worst game ever made.
02:25:17
BeyBlade
Yeah. yeah where he saw about his yeah Yeah. Top five worst games is Tekken one through five. he's He's like a, he's a hater and it's, yeah.
02:25:27
silkdong
he's ah He's a generational hater. ah love
02:25:30
BeyBlade
And that's the thing I would have, if I just kind of caught wind of this guy now,
02:25:35
silkdong
him. Man, he worked on Tecmo Super Bowl. I didn't know that.
02:25:37
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah, dude. The guy's, ah I mean, 58. It's still very young. But ah he was the guy that would show up in sunglasses and then, like, talk shit about how you're you're framing his interview.
02:25:51
BeyBlade
And then just talk shit on every other game but his. And, you know, it's just...
02:25:59
semendemon
Really?
02:26:00
BeyBlade
It's hilarious. Yeah, it's hilarious. But as a kid, kid, I say kid, as somebody who, you know, was reading this when, you know, Ninja Gaiden was coming out and stuff like that. I was like, this guy's a piece of shit. He's the worst. I fucking hate him. Like, what an asshole.
02:26:15
BeyBlade
And then he kind of became, i don't mean this to sound like hyper negative, but he kind of became like, irrelevant, not because he put out bad games, but because I just hadn't heard him.
02:26:24
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:26:24
BeyBlade
Like heard from him in a minute. And it sounds like he's, yeah, he was, I'm thinking he's he was very ill. I think maybe he had a sickness and he just said, you know, this definitely, uh, we're on the way out.
02:26:39
BeyBlade
Um, we just, you know, super sad, but, uh, no, I just, I, I do feel like he's a bit, he was at least misunderstood by me because, You know, I took that stuff way too seriously, and I remember being very annoyed at this guy. But ah I think it was kind of, in a way, ah pretty tongue-in-cheek. So kind of a bummer, for sure.
02:27:06
semendemon
Hmm. Sad day for people that like fighting games with a lot of boobs.
02:27:13
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:27:14
semendemon
Really?
02:27:14
silkdong
dude i'm not gonna lie i Dude, I spent $50 on Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball and put some hours into that game at the at the casino.
02:27:14
BeyBlade
Yeah. um
02:27:18
BeyBlade
yeah
02:27:20
semendemon
ah You did?
02:27:20
BeyBlade
Trust me.
02:27:21
silkdong
Yeah, dude is yeah
02:27:21
Steve-O
You put 90 hours in just as much as Silksong.
02:27:22
BeyBlade
does. Yeah.
02:27:23
semendemon
yeah
02:27:25
silkdong
dude.
02:27:25
BeyBlade
yeah
02:27:26
silkdong
That was my old beat my original Silk song.
02:27:28
Steve-O
that was yeah That's what you called it, making silk?
02:27:28
silkdong
was waiting forever for that game to come out.
02:27:32
semendemon
Gotta make some silk tonight.
02:27:32
silkdong
There was one game in there where where two girls, two Dead or Alive girls had to run across floaties in a pool. and i was I was like, this is just
02:27:40
semendemon
Wow.
02:27:42
silkdong
This game would make so much money now.
02:27:44
semendemon
Goon. Gooner material.
02:27:46
silkdong
2025. But back then it was kind of like a weird thing.
02:27:50
semendemon
Goon or alive.
02:27:53
silkdong
You could set the jiggle physics of the boobs and butts.
02:27:54
BeyBlade
Mm-hmm.
02:27:54
semendemon
Dead or goon.
02:27:56
Steve-O
All right, everybody.
02:27:56
semendemon
Goon or goon.
02:27:56
silkdong
And they're alive.
02:27:57
Steve-O
Set your jiggle physics all the way up because we're going to be back next week jiggling in bikinis.
02:28:00
semendemon
Yeah. In bikinis.
02:28:04
Steve-O
So we'll be there.
02:28:06
semendemon
That's the plan.
02:28:07
Steve-O
You know, this week, ah I think we were going to talk about our our top five movies.
02:28:12
silkdong
top 10 movies of the decade or whatever, or top 5 movies of
02:28:14
Steve-O
You know, I'm to leave this as a thing that I always leave at the end where I'm going next week, we're going be talking about our top five movies of the decade.
02:28:20
semendemon
It'll happen.
02:28:23
semendemon
it'll happen
02:28:25
Steve-O
It'll happen, so make sure you're listening. See you guys.
02:28:29
BeyBlade
See ya.