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Episode 52: Ghouls Night In (Halloween Special)
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In this Halloween special of Wounded Healers, we’re diving into the ghoulishly delightful history of Halloween! From ancient Celtic traditions to the rise of trick-or-treating, we’re tracing the origins of everyone’s favorite spooky season. We’ll also be ranking classic Halloween movies—from spine-chilling thrillers to the nostalgic flicks we can’t stop watching. Plus, get ready for some laughs as we share hilarious stories of costumes gone wrong and candy-haunting adventures! Grab your broomsticks, pour some pumpkin spice, and tune in for a hauntingly good time with plenty of laughs and maybe a few boo-tiful surprises!
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Introduction & Podcast Purpose
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Speaker
Welcome to the Wounded Healers podcast.
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Speaker
I'm Janessa. And I'm Amy. We were brought together by our shared wound of an autoimmune condition in our early 20s. This is a place where we explore our wounds with our listeners and guests who recognize the challenges of being human in hopes of helping all of us let the light in. Hey everybody, welcome back to the Wounded Healers podcast. I am Aimee and I'm here with Janessa. Hi Janessa.
00:00:38
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back. I feel like it's been forever, but it hasn't really say that. So welcome back. It's always been two weeks for them. um But obviously last week was a little bit heavy. And honestly, when I was like editing it and like putting it out and doing that Instagram reel, I was like, I'm not sure how I feel about this. But I was like, you've got to do it. And I was like, you just got to push the button. um So I'm really glad I
Halloween Episode Announcement
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did. And it was actually really quite freeing like as much as it was kind of like embarrassing it was actually um yeah getting a weight off my chest even more so so if you listened thank you for um listening to it and giving me like giving me the chance to to talk about it and get it off my chest so yeah
Sexy Halloween Costumes Discussion
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but this week
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We've got something really fun in store for you because we thought it was well needed after last week. um And it's got absolutely fuck all to do with health, wellness or healing. And it's got everything to do about Halloween.
00:01:47
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we Spooky season. It is spooky season. You guys know me and Janessa love spooky season anyway. I think maybe possibly our first ever hot or not was about pumpkin spice lattes. I think that was. You know we love Twilight. Yeah. So and yeah, we thought why not just get stuck into everything Halloween and just have a bit of fun.
00:02:17
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Yeah, come join us. Come join us, him laugh come have some fun. But yeah, are hot or not, Amy, do you want to tell them what it is? becauses Yeah, so the hot or not this week is, is it hot or not to dress sexy for Halloween? Because, I mean, I feel like it's become quite a Like, well, ah obviously, as as with any good thing, it originated in America, I think. It originated from, like, I feel like sororities and frat bros, I assume, is where it, like, originated, but became popular through films, particularly for me. I always think of Mean Girls and where, obviously, Caddy comes dressed as, like, the corpse bride and everyone else is, like, yeah a mouse. um So, yeah, do we think it's hot or not?
00:03:12
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okay i've got i've got yeah and so um Okay, so I think I think it's hot personally um because I feel like there's
Origins & Evolution of Halloween
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just a time in your life where like because I think back to high school and to high school early college days and And that's the time where you're learning how you are sexually and like how you are in your own body. And it can be really fun to step outside of your comfort zone for a night yeah and just put on something a little sleety and just like hop around in it and just enjoy your fucking self. yeah know So I think it's hot.
00:03:52
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um I do have to say, I've seen some costumes where I'm like, what are you though? Like I just don't know what they are and they just look really yeah hot, but I'm like, but I don't know what you are. and And that's a little confusing to me. I do like a hot, I know what you are. Like, okay, hot nurse, classy, got it. But I've seen others i've seen like a sexy buzz light year and I was a little confused. I'm like, well, that's a kid's story, okay, you know, like whatever, let's just go with it.
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um Yeah, I guess I think it's hot and the older I'm getting though, I have to admit that the less the less hot Halloween costumes I'm wearing, I would rather really dress as Shrek or something funny now. I've taken a turn for the humorous, yeah but I do still appreciate my college dreams.
00:04:41
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yeah okay interesting i think it's hot too actually i do and i'm kind of surprised that i think that um but i completely agree with you it has to be an iconic hot thing like it you're completely right with you you can't take something and turn
Halloween Memories & Traditions
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it hot. Like you either have to go full on hot like Playboy Bunny or like that is that is like undeniably and legendarily hot. Like a Playboy Bunny is never not going to be hot. So yeah. um But yeah, does but sexy Buzz Lightyear isn't on anything like that.
00:05:19
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um Yeah, I mean, they looked great, but when I really thought about it, I was like, no. Yeah, that's funny. But, that being said, it's cooler to do a legit scary costume. So like, it's hot, but like, I think you get a lot more creds from me if you're doing actual scary, that you've put a lot of thought into.
00:05:45
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Okay, that's where I'm a little different because I get scared easily. I don't like the scary. If you look hot, just go my way. And I'd like to appreciate your costume. If you look scary, stay far away and I'll appreciate it. Bye. Literally.
00:06:01
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um I was going to say though when I was in college there was a Halloween party I went to and it was at it was when I was in Santa Barbara for a year like between going back to Evergreen um and it was in the Zalpala area so if you know Santa Barbara that's where it was um which is this like iconic strip of just like college homes right along the beach I think there's a cliff and then the beach is there. Gorgeous. um But there is a party and the theme was Britney Spears of all decades. And that was my favorite Halloween party I've ever been to. There were so many Britney Spears and even the fraternity boys dressed like Britney Spears, which was hilarious. it It actually was hilarious. Yeah, that's funny.
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um Yeah, so I appreciated that theme, appreciate that party. um Yeah, that was one of my favorite Halloween. Yeah, that sounds amazing. I would love to go to it. but I guess that's a kind of theme that it doesn't even have to be Halloween, does it? That could be any of any party. It could be Britney Spears through the decades. so maybe But here here's the cool thing. I feel like when it's Halloween, people will go the extra mile.
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to make it like yeah even a little better like everyone had like fake headsets for like the microphone and stuff and I was like if it was just Britney Spears probably I don't think I don't know I don't know if all the effort would be yeah what it would depend on the crowd I think if you're with a crowd that really loved Britney Spears they'd relish the opportunity if you were the crowd that didn't love her they probably would make quite a half ass effort ah yeah love it okay it's hot Good to know. So keep dressing
Halloween Movies & True Crime Discussion
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up. So if any of you are dressing sexy tonight for Halloween, um yeah then you go for it. Enjoy it. I almost wanted to be like, send us a message. And I was like, that's weird. Hey, please. If you are. a win
00:07:53
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Let us see it. Let us see it. Okay, so I thought I would do a little bit of a very, very, very small history lesson just to set the scene of Halloween and what it is, because a lot of us just immediately buy into Halloween because it's fun and because it's been highly commercialized, but it actually has some really Cool. I feel like I'm overusing the word cool, but some really interesting and
00:08:31
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Yeah, just some interesting historic roots. So ah ancient is a good word, ancient roots. So Halloween originates from the Celtic festival of Sowinn, a harvest festival celebrated by the Celts of Ireland, Scotland, and parts of France around 2000 years ago. So kind of impressive that this festival has lasted for over 2,000 years like I don't think we can say that about many festivals or many festivals yeah like Christmas I don't think is 2,000 years old
00:09:16
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I don't know. I'm pretty confident that it's not. I'm pretty confident that that's and that's it's not 2,000 years ago. um Anyway, so it marked the end of the harvest season and the beginning of winter. And the Celts believe that on the night of the 31st of October, the boundary between the living and the dead blurred.
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allowing spirits to cross over into the human world. To ward off these spirits, they would light large bonfires and wear costumes to disguise themselves, which is so fun in terms of that's why we wear costumes, like to hide from the ghosts and the ghouls.
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Dude, the ghosts are getting so lucky in these days. We're all looking hella sexy. When did this happen? yeah whoa
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ah so when christianity spread so When Christianity spread to Celtic g lands, the festival was incorporated into the Christian calendar.
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So in the ninth century, the church the church declared first of November as All Saints Day, also known as All Hallows Day, to honor saints and martyrs, still kind of dead people, but the the ones that they like. And then the evening before became known as All Hallows Eve, which is where the term like Halloween came from.
00:10:46
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um During the 19th century Irish and Scottish immigrants brought Halloween traditions to North America and this is where the practice of carving things originated so they used to use turnips and potatoes and eventually evolved into pumpkins.
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And this I absolutely loved. Trick or treating probably has roots in an old medieval practice called souling, where children would go door to door offering prayers in exchange for small treats. So they would like, you know, bless your house um to protect you from the dead, i'm to get small treats. So I just love that because I always, I was like, well did this come from? Why are we imposing ourselves on other people? But I love that that's actually like a historical practice as well. um Today, Halloween has transformed into a festive, largely secular holiday celebrated with costumes, trick or treating, and parties, blending its ancient supernatural origins with a modern focus on fun and creativity.
00:12:00
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Damn, that's cool. I love that. All I could think of my head is like, little black people for each other. A Victorian child in a wheel and like a wheelchair.
00:12:14
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yeah please they're original wounded healers they're trying to heal they're trying to heal any wound so you don't get haunted yeah and i do also say love that because i believe like i don't know whether it's like evangelical christians in america or baptist the baptist church but i feel like they put a real separation between christianity and halloween i think like they're like the only reason i know this is because i know that haley beiber gets hate on instagram from christians for dressing up in Halloween costumes. I was like, that's my one point of reference. But I love that it actually has roots in a Christian festival as well. It's kind of nice. Like it's not just, you know, like I feel like people kind of think of Halloween as for being like degenerates and like wayward people that are a bit wrong in the head. It's not, it's for everyone. And it's, you know.
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We're all We're all wrong here.
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Oh man. Yeah, no, I think, I know what you mean though. I think there is that separation. I have seen it on like, oh God, I hate that I'm like on Instagram. okay Anyway, on Instagram, I have seen it as well. And um meaning like, I've seen people who are like, we don't dress up for Halloween, but we do dress up for like
Twilight Quiz & Conclusion
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playtime. And then people are commenting. They're like, this is the same thing. Like you're just doing it, not for Halloween.
00:13:40
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um It's like a kid just running around in a transformer. Yeah, so I don't know. I think that's silly. I feel like some things need to outgrow or expand or whatnot. And that's a mindset I hope people can expand on because how fun is that? Just get dressed up. And so tell me about what you remember from Halloween when you were a little Janessa.
00:14:06
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Okay, my very very first Halloween memory that I can remember is a scary one um so so two things um i'll start with this one so this is the earliest memory we went with my grandparents my mom and i and we were walking and i was dressed up as mickey or mini mouse um and had the ears everything and i was very scared of the decorations and my mom was like it's okay like don't worry we were in like really nice neighborhood like you know
00:14:39
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As a kid, I just didn't know that that wasn't real. yeah you know So I walked up to this house and other kids had walked up and there is this like scarecrow man holding a bucket of candy and my mom's like, it's not real, don't worry. And these other kids walked up and they grabbed candy and they walked away and I for some reason was like, nope.
00:14:57
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no no no no mom's like come on you got this so i went up and then lo and behold it was a guy in a scarecrow costume and he literally just like popped up and he was like hi halloween and i cried so much i did not want the candy at all and he was like come on you're gonna get the camera i was like no I was like, never. So um yeah, after that, I cried for like two and a half blocks and I did not go up to the doors without my mom at all. And like, turns out my mom didn't know that was someone dressed up either. So it wasn't her just like, four year olds gonna scare. So yeah, anyway.
00:15:40
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trust your yeah i don't I don't think that's necessary like we're supposed to be having a good time like you don't actually have to like scare children like so that was really spooky my second memory from when I was a little in Halloween time was a memory of I dressed up as a I don't even know what I really was I was I was a lot of things I thought I was a vampire but I picked out my own costume and is more like a witch man I was a little pink confused. Anyway, so I had these like fake fangs and they're plastic. I can still like taste them. dark Yeah, yeah and they like cut your thumbs a little and you're like, I'm still cool.
00:16:21
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oh Yeah, I had those and I was looking for them before we left the house to trick-or-treat and I could not find them for the life me I couldn't find them I looked everywhere and actually this is a little spooky cuz still to this day um ah My mom knows about this but like no one else um But I couldn't find those teeth. My mom looked everywhere I of course had a little cry about it and then we left and I was just a weird witch looking vampire without the teeth. And when we got home from trick-or-treating, they were placed on the sink, like on like, it was just like really evident where they were. But my mom and I had looked there. And still to this day, I felt really spooked about that. And I was like, cause we didn't have like a roommate or anyone else. And I was like,
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that's weird and my mom's like oh we probably overlooked it but my little kid brain was like nah that's a ghost and so well I mean as we just said it is the night whether the veil between is is not as tight so if it if it was gonna happen at any point probably would happen at Halloween you didn't even know that ghost saved my costume. You didn't know an old house or apartment.
00:17:39
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well No, no, it was definitely like a just kind of mediocre apartment yeah i was like good on and and out So that was weird Yeah, but what about you what was your halloween's like when you're little were there halloween's were there halloween's like There were, there sure were. I will say obviously I think it's like a well-known fact that the ah you've always gone harder for it in the States than we have in the UK. Like we never did, I mean even to this day really like
00:18:16
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You know like your main street of your town would have proper, I don't know if I just imagine it like this, but would have like a wagon with like pumpkins on it. You know what I mean? Like they'd make like street displays for Halloween. Like the streets don't get Halloween a fight here. Like it's not, it's not that big. Like shops obviously will, but like the general space doesn't really get Halloween. Like it's still smaller.
00:18:39
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um And then obviously 30 years ago it was even less of a thing. and But we did we definitely did Trick or Treat. One of my first Halloween memories was we had we were really close friends with our next door neighbours. They had kids that were about the same age as me and my brother.
00:18:59
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So we had like a very small Halloween party with me and my brother and our two neighbours and like their mum. And we did this thing where we would like decorate things with like red food dye as like blood. And we used to do apple bobbing. Do you have apple bobbing in this days?
00:19:17
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hope um We do have apple bobbing. It has been a really long time since I have heard of anybody apple bobbing. I am talking about like 1997.
00:19:30
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yeah right
00:19:34
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so yeah we would do apple bobbing and like randomly apples like tied up on string I don't know what it what the obsession is with apples but like apples tied up on string you'd have to try and take a bite out of the apple and see I remember that and we would go trick-or-treating and but we didn't have like, like people didn't sit outside their houses. Like people didn't, people definitely didn't decorate their houses in the 90s for Halloween. Absolutely not. Like you wouldn't, and now people do, but like there was never, like a pumpkin carved outside with a light on would be all that you'd get. and So we didn't have like all the, like the razzmatazz and like, it was much more low key. And I just remember it's just so me. Cause I lived on got like quite a big street. I would just get really tired. I would literally be like, can we get home now? Like I'm kind of sick of knocking on people's doors, um which is just the most meaty thing ever. um And I remember we'd get home, we'd always put past our Halloween treats in pillow, like empty pillowcases.
00:20:38
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rather than like we didn't have like the plastic buckets like pumpkin shape none of that shit it was just like a pillowcase and then me and my brother would pour out our pillowcases all over the living room floor and then like fight each other for the best chocolate yeah so really fun I have really fun memories of being little and we would also um quite I think you would probably have done this too but like but just have a big sheet over us with eyes cut out as a ghost that was like I remember we both did that and as a costume one year I remember once we were pirates I think and then I remember one Halloween where my mum and dad went to Paris and left me and my brother with
00:21:26
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my mum's parents and i'm my nanny dressed me up like Minnie Mouse, which is pretty cute. um Yeah, i was like maybe i was I wasn't like a little toddler, I was like fairly old, like I was like a a girl, not like a toddler being dressed up like Minnie Mouse, like a full-on girl. Yeah, no, still three, but like, you know, it was probably like nine or ten. um So yeah, really fun, memories of it actually, like yeah, really fun.
00:21:52
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Yeah, now that definitely woken some memories that weren't as spooky, but yeah, yeah I think that like coming home and I also used a pillowcase, this pillowcase kid. um But yeah, coming home and dumping your candy out and just like literally getting so fucked up on sugar right before bed.
00:22:10
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there's something really sacred about that just once a year my mom was like yeah go for it I was like yeah so yeah but I do have to say I think that's so cool to have like a sibling even if you're duking it out for the candy there's something very exciting about that um yeah when I was growing up it was just just me and the kids so I just like would dump out the candy and don't get me wrong I would devour that whole thing for sure. Um, but I do remember my mom like put a limit on it. Like she was like, you can eat a ton of candy, but I'm going to take these and she would like take a little bit of it. And then I found out she was eating those, which should good for her. You know, she's like, these ones are my favorite. You can't have these. You have to say, yeah, she was like we'll see you have to say take some tax as a mother. Like I would be the exact same. Um, and this is just made me think actually of a hot take, which I think like maybe people aren't going to be too happy with, but
00:23:03
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this is something that is severely wrong with the rise of veganism is that there's kids around the world now and I saw this on and there's a a girl on YouTube called Ellen Fisher who like lives in Hawaii has an amazing beautiful life but she's vegan and she's like bringing her kids up as vegan and so her kids go trick-or-treating and then she gets back and she's like leave all the candy out for like the candy elf And the candy elf like comes and takes their candy and they get like some grapes instead. Isn't that disgusting?
00:23:43
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I'm sorry, I'm going to judge. Yeah, because obviously candy has like either milk chocolate or like gelatin, like a lot of it. So like, you know, I get, and it's just like, I'm just like, don't shove your beliefs down your kids' throats on Halloween. Like let them, let them eat the milk chocolate once a year on Halloween. You know? like Or at least go get a really good vegan substitute. Do not put your stuff in there. like Just go get a vegan chocolate. like go Go all out. even if you give up But even making them give up their loot, the whole point is is is that you've got canvassing for them anyway. No, I see where you're coming from. I totally get it. I'm like yep. yeah
00:24:28
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Yeah, but the grapes, that's where I draw the fucking line, and like those elves. What is going on? No, I feel like in Ellen Fisher's defense, I feel like it might not have been grapes. I feel like she might have got the vegan vegan ah chocolate, but it's still the point still stands. um I'm really glad. I am actually really glad that we got to experience Halloween before gluten intolerance and before dairy intolerance and before but for veganism. Like those things just didn't exist. There was no such thing as being gluten intolerant when I was five.
00:25:05
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No, not that I know of. At least I was very much unaware if there were. I'm just making out today. Yeah, no, I would say, you know, it's funny because as I grew older, as I grew older, as I've grown older, I've noticed this change in trick-or-treating culture here with kids and less and less kids in the area I live are going trick-or-treating.
00:25:31
Speaker
Because there's been so much whack-ass shit that has happened in the United States with like kids getting like drugged candy or kids getting like fucking apple tags like the trackers and their candy and um It's just really sad that that happens but also it's upsetting because I loved as an adult seeing little kids come and get candy because their costumes are so fucking cute and they're adorable and some of them have like a barely any words so they're just like thank you that's all they got or just like a little handout and you're like oh and they're just with their mom so cute so I miss that and it's also just hard because I guess in the Bay Area there's these things that people are doing it's not a rule but it's kind of like a social
00:26:17
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um Rule here that like if you have any if you're like a peanut-free house you put like a blue pumpkin I think it is outside of your house So that kids who are like severe peut allergies know that it's safe to like grab candy from your bowl So there's like a lot of like weird little things they do around here now to like signify that like It is vegan or it is, you know, a peanut-free house. um So I guess, you know, it's just sad that like that has to be done, you know? But also it's just really sad, like just like bring back trick-or-treating, please. Like, cause now here they only go to like certain strips of streets where it's like mansions, like in Atherton where they hand out like a fuck ton of candy. And I'm like, okay, thanks. You know? Like I get it, but also, come on. So yeah.
00:27:06
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I miss them. Bring it back. i haven't had I haven't been in a house where people have come trick-or-treating in years. Like my parents' house, they live on like a street of retired people. So when I live with them, no kids came around. And then I've lived in apartments since. And just no, obviously no one comes into like an apartment building. Like and that's not the dumb thing. So I can't wait to get a house and I will be sitting outside in a scarecrow costume now.
00:27:34
Speaker
ah Yeah, my yeah I'm really looking forward to that. And maybe having some babies of my own one day, I'm taking them trick or treating will be really fun. But I'm sure I'd feel just as tired as I did when I was a child.
00:27:50
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And then I also want to talk about um when I was a teenager because Halloween took a very different term when I was a teenager and we really used to we really used to go hard and we I would go to like a Halloween party nearly every year without a doubt.
00:28:08
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um Just so fun. To be a teenager at a Halloween party is like peak life, to be honest. Because you're, everyone's dressed up exactly like what we were saying in the hot or not. Everyone's put the effort in. um You've just got a can of like warm strong bow in your hand. I don't know. Do you have strong bow in America? Oh no, we do. What is that?
00:28:32
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really cheap cider that like teenage boys would like get it's not nice like teenage boys would like get like a crate of it you know and like take it to a party. I don't think we have that. No you probably don't it's probably a UK thing whatever you've got you've got the equivalent though without a doubt like a warm beer in hand um and yeah just vibing in your horrendous costume And I would always do slutting, of course, of course. i at One year I went as, like which is really like a reflection of my mental state probably, but I went as like a corpse of a kidnapped girl and I wore, I wore a bin liner, you know, like a black bin bag.
00:29:18
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Wait, what has it been? Like a, like a refuse sack. Oh, like a trash can. Yeah, a trash can bag. I wore a trash can bag and I had a rope around my neck and wrists and that was my costume. And obviously like,
00:29:34
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yeah, mentally, I was not mentally well as a teenager, um but obviously. Obviously the makeup was on point and the hair was on point and then one year I went as sexy Santa. I wish I could show you pictures. I'll show you pictures another time but yeah I went as sexy Santa and then one year I had the Halloween party at my house which is insane because my friends remember that it was a Sunday and I was like what were my parents doing?
00:30:08
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letting me have a raging Halloween party at my house on a Sunday. um But I went as a skeleton. but No, yeah. No, not a skeleton. A mummy. And that actually was just a bikini. With toilet paper wrapped around me. There you go. Okay, girl. As fluffy as possible every year.
00:30:33
Speaker
wow okay my teenage halloween's were not at school at all i did uh i thought i was dressing slutty in high school i was not i dressed up my freshman year um with my friend charlotte as he had him on oh nice love that they Or actually, sorry, that was eighth grade, it's not quite high school. We were Hannah Montana, but I took that as slutty Hannah Montana, which to me was skinny jeans that were pink with heels, with my heels. Horrible wig. What the fuck were we doing? And then a low cut Abercrombie white shirt. And I thought that was slutty. I was like, yeah, yeah. That's wholesome. That's wholesome shirt.
00:31:13
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that was awesome yeah And then then my freshman year in high school, I had a crush on this Giants pitcher, which is the like baseball team here in the Bay Area. yeah Anyway, his name was Tim Linsicum. And he was called The Freak because he was like really good. I don't know. He had like some crazy like bending movement or some shit. I don't know. I was half ass watching it. I was just watching him. Anyway, so I dressed up as him for Halloween because I was like, oh my God, fangirling.
00:31:41
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So I wore his jersey and my other friend dressed up as Buster Posey who was like another guy on the giant team at the time. um But we made it cute. We made it cute. We didn't put on like fake facial hair. We just did like leggings. Their jersey. We did our hair rep with like ah giants okay fine and we did the little like black strips under our eyes which isn't even for baseball that's for really for football but whatever yeah um so that was that and then I don't think I really went slutty with Halloween until until probably my senior year of high school and
00:32:19
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At that time, we had snuck into some friends and I at Stanford University clothing parties. We were at a frat party. We shouldn't have been there, but we were. And I dressed up as a really skanky cat. I wore this halter top that was very low. oh And I wore the shortest skirt I could find. And I paired it with like fishnet leggings and converse. And then we just drew on some whiskers, put on some ears, and that was it. And that night I told my mom I was at a friend's house, so sorry mom.
00:32:56
Speaker
We were at a frat party. yeah Wow. yeah Yeah, the mischief. The mischief was real. But there were a group of frat boys at that party who had the best costume I had ever seen. They were dressed as the Old Spice guy from the Old Spice commercials. And back in the day, it was like this guy with just like a towel over his waist, like on a horse or just doing weird shit. So they had like sewn these towels around them so they wouldn't fall off and then they just held old spice. I didn't have shirts on but it was absolutely hilarious. That sounds great. Yeah. Nice. Well, okay. And you had a good experience there at the frat house being sexy. Yes. Thankfully, all was well. All was well. And yeah, we we were safe and we slept in our car. Oh, that doesn't sound very safe. Yeah. Well, it's it's safe when you're in Menlo Park. Yeah. yeah
00:33:49
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Yeah, we were fine. We rallied the next morning at like Posh Bay. Oh, okay. Yeah, that sounds really great. ah What I'd give to spend a night. But your party sounds so cool. I was like, damn. I remember feeling the feels i when we dressed as Hannah Montana. My friend Charlotte and I were like, are we too old for trick or treating now? Because we're in eighth grade. I'm like, I'm pretty sure we're too old. And she was like,
00:34:13
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Should we go and try? And we went and tried and people gave us some weird looks. We were like, yeah, we're dual. That happened once. I don't know whether it was the same night that I was the kidnapped corpse girl. But I know. I know we did try and go chick or cheating.
00:34:30
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in that girl's town that she lived in to that house. And people were literally saying like, you're too old, go away, which is fair. You know, we're just there for the cheap thrills. But no, it mainly was just like playing music and God knows what used to happen at these parties, talking to people, making out with people, you know.
00:34:56
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Sounds fun. All that gorgeous stuff. Sounds like me. Okay, fun. So we both have some cute, fun memories of Halloween, which I love to hear. I love to hear. Okay, now let's talk film and TV. Would you like to watch? Okay. I am not a scary movie girl. Yeah, I remember that. yeah I think at one point I was like, I am a scary movie girl. And then I watched one and I was like, I can't do this. I'm not her. We watched, I will let you continue, but while you're talking about scary, I just thought that you would absolutely hate it. We watched a film last night called My Bloody Valentine. And it's about, it's a proper slasher movie about a guy that starts killing people down a mine.
00:35:47
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eight you would It was the most go gory, so gory. um Like, literally ripping people's hearts out, leaving their like chests. like Yeah, it was horrendous. so Oh my gosh. That's hard. If you want a hardcore slasher film, My Bloody Valentine. um Did you ever listen to that emo band, My Bloody Valentine? No.
00:36:10
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No, I didn't think so. I would probably like them. I love to eat my music, so I probably would. Me too. I was a hot topic girl for a bit. Dude, yeah, that movie sounds disturbing. I can do like vintage horror films. That's fine.
00:36:27
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Like all the old Friday the 13th, the old Nightmare on Elm Street. I'm all okay like, please give it to me. That's fantastic. But the second it gets like really good with the makeup and really good with the fake blood. I can't hang anymore and I'm i'm just down. I'm like, nope.
00:36:44
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Cannot do. um But Zach and I watched this movie. I tried, I tried, I tried. And I cannot remember the frickin' name of it. But it has that, what's that girl's name? Who's like really very stereotypically hot. Like Sydney Swinney. Oh yeah. Oh, nunnery. Yeah, Yes, the like nun movie. I watched that with Zach, but I had a pillow over my face for like multiple scenes I couldn't handle it and Zach's like this isn't even that bad babe it's okay and I was like no no no no um I did enjoy it was a little more sci-fi than I thought oh yeah I thought that would be um like poltergeist ghosts
00:37:27
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No. No. Do you want me to ruin it for you real quick? Sure. I'm going to watch it. Okay. Listen guys, if you don't want to have it ruined, just switch this card. Um, anyway, so basically she like goes to this, um, is it called a nunnery? I don't know. She goes to be a nun in Italy and she has this opportunity. They select her for this program and she's like helping up this kind of like psych word hospital, essentially. And.
00:37:54
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Weird shits happening with the actual nuns that are like they're acting weird Some of them are like not showing up in a month or week and this girl she becomes close with You know speaks out about things and kind of gets shunned a bit um but she feels sick when she wakes up one day, the main girl, and it turns out she gets an ultrasound done and the priest is there and like the clergy clergy members are there and they're like and you're saying you've never broken your valid like celibacy and she's like I'm never so she's pregnant.
00:38:28
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But it turns out what's going on is this insane asylum has this priest who used to be a biologist and he's trying, he extracted DNA from like the nail that went through Jesus's hand on the cross and he's trying to rebirth Christ through DNA. So he selects women only with the proper DNA to come be um yeah nuns and he tries to impregnate them to birth out like the new Christ and it's really crazy and all these of women have like died and they like get marked if they weren't able to carry the baby and so anyway just fucking whack so she gets really pregnant she gets really sick everybody's not letting her leave to go to a hospital they have like a private doctor there and so they they're like you can only see our doctor blah blah blah this movie ends with her running through these catacombs and i had to close my eyes because it was so scary because they like shoved all the other like dead nuns in there that had basically been pregnant trying to escape and stuff or like whatnot and then at the end she births this demon baby thing but you don't see it you just know it's like not good and she knows it's not good and or not meant to be and um
00:39:44
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she finally escapes and she's like bleeding everywhere and then she just they don't show it but she smushes it with a rock because she's like this can't exist like this isn't right like this isn't supposed to be a thing um and then that's the end of the movie So yeah, i like it left me feeling like I needed to watch something happy. So I think I put on New Girl after that. I was like, please and insert humor into my life. Yeah, that was the scariest film I've watched this year. And I hope you guys enjoyed that overview. That sounds icky. Like that sounds... It was a so icky.
00:40:18
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It was so icky. I was like, oh no. And I was so scared and like, yeah, I would just, I couldn't, I couldn't do it. I was like, no, it just feels too, like that's my thing with scary movies. Sometimes I feel like there's just too many fucked up people in this world that I'm like, how did we get this idea? Where did this idea come from? yeah I don't know. Yeah, I completely agree with you. Like that room, the you know, the human caterpillar.
00:40:44
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No, the human name wasn't called the human centipede. It's not the... Oh, the centipede, yes. I was like, there's a caterpillar horn. Oh God. Like that is just that person, the person that wrote that needs to be checked into an asylum immediately. Like that's not... Don't be thinking things like that ever.
00:41:04
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Or like, did you ever watch Hereditary? That is by far the scariest part. I didn't even think that was that scary. What? The kid like loses its head. That part? I literally was like in shock. No, I don't find scary movies scary. Like I find them like interesting or disturbing. Disturbing if it's like anything to do with like yeah i don't know rape or like any like sexual assault vibes i don't like sorry to bring that up again but i like that i don't like that um but like slasher films i do like and like ghost films i do like yeah i i don't find scary film scary at all
00:41:48
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Oh my gosh, I am such a... I can't, I can't. Like that nun one, I had horrible dreams that whole night. And then the next night and I was like, no, I can't be doing this to my psyche. It just can't happen. But here's the weird thing about me. I love true crime. yeah I love true crime and I have no problem hearing about it. I feel bad and I feel like that's fucked up, but I i don't know. I don't, like it's just different. yeah Even if I watch a documentary on a true crime thing,
00:42:17
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Even if it's horrifying, like I am horrified, but I'm not scared. I think it's because I know the outcome, like okay, they died. They did not make it. yeah And I don't have to watch how they didn't make it, you know? Like I just know that something fucked up. Yeah. And I think with true crime, you don't get an emotional connection to any characters because it's like very, it's often it's told like factually. Whereas in a film, you obviously are like feeling what they're feeling.
00:42:45
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like yeah makes character yeah There is, I guess, a show that was a little spooky on Hulu. and hey I can't quite remember the name of it, but it was something like The Perfect Wife. um and It's this woman in California who like went missing for a while. and when she When they found her, she was on the side of the road in shackles, all beaten up.
00:43:06
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And it's this documentary of her husband like who was left with their kids like raising them and stuff while she was quote kidnapped. But anyway, spoiler alert, she orchestrated the whole thing. The entire thing. The entire thing. She literally had someone like pick her up.
00:43:23
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beat her who she knew and she like forced him to do it. like was like like She was literally psycho and it was like all to get attention slash try to leave oh my like the town she was in and stuff. yeah but It's actually disturbing oh and she's like stunning. She's like really, really beautiful. um so yeah it's great that That is, yeah yeah, that book was my mind, stuff like that. But I've just thought if you like True Crime, you'll love Morbid. Have you listened to the Morbid podcast? Yeah, and I think the girls are of the ladies. I feel like they share our humor as well. They're quite funny.
00:44:04
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um do yeah that my favorite My favorite murder as well is so good. oh It's by two comedians. okay And so you're getting history, but you're also getting a little bit of comedy in there. yeah they You need it. Well, especially like with Morbid as an example, you definitely need them making it funny because some of the stories they get into are vile.
00:44:26
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And yeah some Halloween films they that are like spooky season vibes, but aren't dick really scary spooky Yeah, like Timberson you a Timberson fan. Oh Not really honestly, I know it's an unpopular thing right now, especially at the second Beetlejuice out I'm not against his movies. They just never really hit the spot. Oh Other than maybe Edward Scissorhands. That was like my favorite timber Wow, you don't like cool pride it's okay it's okay i just never i don't know i don't know how to explain this there's like ride or dies for him um i'm not a ride or die i enjoy his work but it's not my favorite like i would prefer halloween town oh no i haven't seen that which is a disney film i know but i haven't seen it but yeah
00:45:14
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i love halloween town yeah and um yeah i don't know tim bring's good though i just i never really okay it's okay you don't have to say he's good you don't have to it's fine well i know he's good like culturally everybody loves him i just yeah it's not my thing yeah but you are impressed by well i am impressed by the stop motion animation of it all Oh yeah, that's crazy. The corpse bride, I mean I feel like I feel a huge emotional connection to her for some reason. Like when she's crawling out of the ground and you're like oh my god like this woman thought her life was over and she's like you know there's renewed hope in her life because someone's accidentally proposed to her like and then yeah I think it's a really clever story. I was like I'm so stunned.
00:46:05
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I was gonna throw this out there and I thought you were gonna be like, oh my god, I love corpse pride. I just don't know what to do. The fact that you're like, it's okay. I'm like, oh.
00:46:14
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i say watch like okay i think it's been a while I would encourage you to dip your toe in again because it it does it does get you in the feels. Another one I was gonna bring up because I've seen it on TikTok recently, Casper the friendly ghost. Do you remember this when you were a child? I do and he like ended up being such a cutie when he was a human and you were like oh my god. I was saying this girl on TikTok was like this is my sexual awakening. was' with him actually being hot and he's like, I told you I was going to get a dancer. Can I keep you?
00:46:54
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oh my god honestly like yeah that but also i just realized how actually weird i am as a person because my first sexual awakening one of them was very confusing it was the labyrinth with david bowie and i was like why is he cute and i was like is he a he i don't know like i was okay i was confused but also like david bowie you know I don't know. That proves to you, that's my weird vibe. Yeah, no, I think that kind of tracks for you as a person, to be honest. that that would be yeah I was like, oh yeah. And then I was like, oh no. I was i was really confused, that whole movie. And I was like, yeah. No, that actually freaked me out. Labyrinth. That is a good spooky movie. Yeah, that is scary. Another one that really freaked me out when I was a kid was The Witches. Did you ever get that? Roald Dahl, The Witches, where
00:47:42
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They're like in court and she like peels off her face and she's a witch underneath. And it's a kid's farm. Yeah, that's scary. You don't watch it, you'll be scared. ah okay okay and
00:47:55
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yeah that's wow i loved hocus pocus yeah yeah yeah wholesome i still love that still love it we watched the second one with some friends like a year or two ago and tell me this okay if you guys watch the second hocus pocus the black candle she lights the girl that looks like a dick like i literally was like who chose that candle like it literally looks like a dick i haven't seen it but like we were We were all laughing. Everybody viewing the film was like, what's going on? It's like the most oddly shaped candle. And we were like... They probably did that on purpose, no? Because they know that the people... and for the adult Yeah, well, they know that the people watching the second Hocus Pocus are the girlies that watched Hocus Pocus for the first time when they were young.
00:48:47
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yeah It's true. Yeah. So anyway, we were laughing at that. We were like, what in there? So that's interesting. ah But I did watch that film with Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman. I watched that the other day, Practical Magic. Practical Magic. It was actually, it was good, but it wasn't, I don't know. It was good. Thank you. It wasn't as good as I thought it would be. Those are my exact thoughts because I've seen it on TikTok. Everyone's like fangirling over it. Everyone's like iconic film. I watched it. I was like, this is so meh.
00:49:19
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Yeah, it was very... But I love Sandra. I love Sandra in anything and she looked phenomenal in that film. And the 90s outfits with a slight witchy twist is chef's kiss. But the storyline flopped. yeah Absolutely flopped. So, yeah. If you're watching it, you're watching it for the aesthetic, not for the storyline is what I will say.
00:49:50
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andly Okay, just and then one more two more quick recommendations from me, which are kind of warm and fuzzy not scary. One is American Horror Story Coven. Did you watch that America? Yeah, that's yeah. also Oh, but good and a good way okay. In a good way. Yeah.
00:50:11
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That like minotaur scared me, but also the body was like really sexy. It was very confusing. Another sexual awakening. Yeah, another very confusing sexual awakening for me.
00:50:27
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But yeah, we love a sisterhood. We love a sisterhood. And that brings me on to a character that has had a grip on my heart at all ages. Sabrina, the teenage witch.
00:50:41
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Oh, of course. So we obviously remember the Nickelodeon, was it on Nickelodeon? I guess so. Nickelodeon show um of our youth, phenomenal like sitcom. But they sent me recently over the last like maybe five years created the Chilling Adventures of Sprena on Netflix, which is more like a comic. I guess it was a comic book. I guess maybe that's what what we know as the original Sabrina the Teenage, which was based on, but they made it like wholesome American. Whereas this one is actually really kind of spooky, um but still got Zelda and Hilda and Sabrina and Salem. But Salem's like her brother and also a cat. He's like a shape shifter. It's very cool. um So yeah, that's another recommendation that's like very, has the feels, but it's really scary.
00:51:39
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um love it love and I only saw the first season of the new Sabrina because then I didn't have Netflix after but it was actually pretty good I just didn't like that at some point they tried to connect it to like Riverdale or something and I was like no That would have been lost on me because I've never seen Riverdale and I don't know anything about it. so do It's literally a trap. It is just dumb Sorry, sorry some listeners gonna be like I hate you. I love that show Okay. Yeah, it's got werewolves in maybe
00:52:12
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I don't even know anymore. I saw after like three seasons, it just kept getting weirder and weirder and I was like no more. yeah Okay, that's all my film recommendations. Should we get into the Twilight quiz?
00:52:27
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Wait, yeah I really just dropped the, I was like, should we just get into the Twilight quiz? I didn't even i didn't even and and you know and set everyone up. um So for a bit of fun, we are going to do, me and Janessa together are going to do a Twilight quiz. You guys know that we love Twilight. We've spoken about it before many times, and we thought you guys probably liked Twilight quite a lot as well. So we're all going to do a Twilight quiz together.
00:52:57
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And I found one on Buzzfeed and the question was really, the first question is really hard. So let's give it a go. um Oh, should I share my screen? And then you can see the questions. Cause we can actually do this on Google. um and And it might be easier for you to see it because and there's, there's options. Okay. So,
00:53:27
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on which exact date was Edward Cullen born. So we've got... I think it's January 2nd 1909. Okay. Okay, sorry. I'm already in the quiz. We need to tell the listeners on the options, are but it's fine. We'll do that on the next one. Okay, so why do you think it's 1909?
00:53:50
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Wait, are there more options? Wait, wait, the screen is cut off. Oh, oh there's more options, sorry. So, okay. I believe he says he got sick in the influenza in 1942. That's what I believe is set in the film. He's hells are old. So maybe it is actually, I didn't see the June or the July option yet. So here's the options, listeners. There's December 21st, 1942, January 2nd, 1909.
00:54:19
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June 20th, 1901 and July 17th, 1901. Something he says January 2nd, 1909, but he seems more like a cancer in terms of astrology, so I'd put him maybe with his July 17th. Yeah, so i I have to, so Spanish influenza happened way before January, ah way before 1942.
00:54:43
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way before um because that happened well i know it happened post-world war one but pre-world war two world war two didn't start till 1939 um so we we can scratch out 42 definitely wasn't born then which you were scratching out anyway um i and then i really don't know the other ones are quite I'm gonna... He's like 200 years old. So maybe it really is the 1901s. I think it's gonna be one of the 1901s because they've there's two of them. um okay god and then Should we go with July? I don't see him as a Gemini. He's not cooling us. Okay, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do July 17th. He is a Gemini. Oh my god.
00:55:31
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ah Damn, I'm sorry guys. I apologize. Oh You guys if you get it wrong, there's a name and it says how long have you been 17? It says wrong. Oh My god, that's yeah. I mean we thought was a came right Oh, God. Oh, I think I actually do think I know what this one. What was the name of Bella's old ballet studio? Was it Dance Phoenix, Marie's Dance Studio, Phoenix Dance Works or Mimi's School of Dance? Dude, I need to bow out of this one. I'm pretty sure it's Mimi's School of Dance. I'm pretty sure.
00:56:18
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And if you have no clue, then I think we can just commit to that. I have no clue. Let's commit. Correct. Good job, Amy. Oh my god. Thank you so much. Okay. On which date did Bella tell the Vulturi that she would be changed? Oh god. Well, it was after her graduation, so I'm going to put it in August. Okay, great. Right? Because wasn't she supposed to graduate?
00:56:44
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August 13th? Oh god, if that's wrong, i'm I'm gonna need to reread the whole series. Okay. Yay! She got it right. Yes! Oh yeah, because they're gonna get married.
00:56:58
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Um, okay. Why did, Oh, why did Carlisle turn Esme? Because he was in love with her because she was dying of a car accident because she had jumped off a cliff and was dying because he predicted that she would be powerful.
00:57:21
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Um, he would never do the best. Yeah. Well, we, yeah. pro wells such a good key And he only turns people that have no other choice, no other hope that we know that. So she, she and I don't see Esme jumping off a cliff. I don't either. As a car accident. I think it would be a car accident. Yeah. Oh, you guys. No way. She jumped the cliff.
00:57:50
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Esme, like his wife. I just don't see that for her, but you know, I don't either. She's just the cutie making Italian food. Oh, she was grief stricken by the death of her son, apparently. Oh my God, I need to reread the scenes. It was a suicide. Oh my God. Okay. Oh God. Who changed Jasper?
00:58:14
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It wasn't, I don't think it was part of it. Because remember he was like a part of like a Monash that, yeah, so I think it's Jane. Yeah, it's going to be Jane or Maria. um And Jane, I mean, Jane in the second book, she's the one that's like still has that little tiny coven of her own, isn't she?
00:58:35
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Yeah, she's played by Dakota Fana, I think. No, is it? Is it? She's the one in the whole story. Yeah, I think she's... Oh. I guess we should read them. So it says, who, did we already read them in the name's options? No. Sorry. I'm too invested. I'm so invested. Yeah, we didn't. Um, so yeah, Carla, Jane, Alice, or Maria. So... I think it's Jane. Yeah. Yes. And, cause I feel like they do have a bit of a thing, like,
00:59:05
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Yeah, they do, don't they, Jane? Oh god. Oh no, we're wrong. Who the fuck was Maria? Oh, oh, oh, it's that girl. Same, but you were along the right lines. Like she wanted him for her army. Just, um, just wrong family. Just wrong coven. Yeah. All right. We'll get this one, I'm sure.
00:59:28
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True or false? Alice could see visions since before she was a vampire. These questions are hard. Dude, these are fucked. I was like, okay, what was, you know, what were the Cullens holding in a Ziploc bag? 12 eggs, like, got that. But... um I mean hang on hang on, let's think about this logically because don't all of them have like him the gift hints towards what their vampire gift will be in their real life, right? Like Bella can't read Edward's mind and that's how she becomes a shield. So I think it's quite likely to that Alice would have had visions since before she was a vampire.
01:00:11
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I'm gonna leave this one up to God and say, yeah, sure. Give this one to Jesus. And so, yeah, whatever you think is right. hey You're not leaving it up to Jesus, you're leaving it up to me. I leave you up to you. You are my Jesus right now, Amy. I'm rooting for you. Okay. I think it's true. I think it's true. Yay! Yay!
01:00:34
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yeah That's a really interesting picture. But Alice doesn't remember her human life, so how do we know that she could see visions? Anyway, it' who are we to question? The answer's true. What was the Cullen's excuse to miss school on sunny days? Sickness? um Hiking? Remember, we have to read them, babe. We have to read them. Oh yeah, I'm sorry.
01:01:06
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I just, like, died of freaking... Jesus! Janessa, hold your horses, Janessa. I'm so excited. Okay. Sickness, hiking and camping, volunteering, or visiting family. The answer, Janessa, please. it's like gi I think Correct. I think so. Correct. Okay. Cool, cool.
01:01:39
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ah And that is when Ashley Green says, try that on my parents. Not even close. i ah like Okay. Oh gosh. No clue on this one. What is the name of Alice's biological sister? Is it Carly? Is it Cynthia? Is it Sophia? Is it Rosalie?
01:02:06
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Okay. Rosalie is definitely not her biological sister because she was adopted. Yes. So could be anyone like this could be best of three. Truly. Like I literally just want to say Sophia. Okay. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I think I might be wrong. Oh, that's wrong. Wrong. and Alice tells Bella about her in new moon. The book. Okay. That's quite deep law. That's deep law.
01:02:36
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Oh god. Now I feel like we're showing ourselves up. Oh, I know this one. this one. So it says... What was the fork's high school mascot? Eagles, Panthers, Spartans, or Wildcats? Yes. That was what I was leaning towards saying. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
01:03:04
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It was the Spartans. Bella doesn't have a lot of school spirit. She doesn't, she wants to go home most of the time. um Okay. Final question. Isle Esme is off the coast of which city? Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Miramar, Florida, Punta del Este, Uruguay, or Malé in the Maldives.
01:03:31
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It's Rio. I think it's Brazil. That's where they go on their honeymoon, remember? They like stop and like have a dance, even though absolutely no one would do that in Brazil. but Maybe people would, but I wouldn't. um Okay, there we go. Hey, you guys, we did really bad.
01:03:51
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Yeah, so we passed a little. We just passed. So we scored 61%. Not even. No, we scored 6 out of 10. But that's better than 61% of everyone else that's taken this quiz. So we're better than the majority. Yeah, but we're not. But I'm personally not happy with that score.
01:04:15
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same let's do it again i'm just kidding oh my gosh no this was a hard quiz actually that was really hard should we see what the comments are this was actually decently difficult and i appreciated it yeah 10 out of 10 bitches. No, she's a liar. She is a liar. Party poison 723 lies. Okay, that's the last of the questions. Right. I think that kind of wraps it up for today. It sure does. I don't know where you could go from there. Can't top that. Nope.
01:04:56
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So guys, we hope you enjoyed. We hope you're having a really fun Halloween. If you are listening to this in the daytime of Halloween, I hope you get some trick-or-treaters um tonight. And I hope you have a Halloween party to go to this weekend if you're the sort of person that does that. um And I hope you're gonna look hot at it. So, yeah. Enthusiastic yes, we're not. Work it everybody, work it.
01:05:26
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Alright y'all, well, we're excited to see you in two weeks. And until then... Remember to let the light in. Goodbye! Bye!